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| schestowitz | [23:37] <Mikko__> idg moderator censored that comment | Sep 15 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe he wants the Swedish police to 'behave' | Sep 15 00:00 |
| schestowitz | It's on the FOSS win list | Sep 15 00:00 |
| schestowitz | I.e. on Microsoft's "hit list" | Sep 15 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Like a suppressor | Sep 15 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Mapping what's not theirs and attacking any threat of opposition | Sep 15 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: ok I want to chat in pm a bit :) | Sep 15 00:01 |
| Mikko__ | sweden is a big microsoft costumer | Sep 15 00:01 |
| gnufreex | I have problem transcribing what he says, he is speaking unconected thoughts. | Sep 15 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: so is the UK | Sep 15 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: so is most of the developed world | Sep 15 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | well more like all of it | Sep 15 00:01 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no, he hates Microsoft | Sep 15 00:01 |
| gnufreex | I have to rewind 5 times before making sense | Sep 15 00:01 |
| schestowitz | [00:01] <Mikko__> sweden is a big microsoft costumer | Sep 15 00:02 |
| schestowitz | High margins | Sep 15 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Mirosoft is used to selling at $0 | Sep 15 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Sweden can pay | Sep 15 00:02 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I see he hates them, I was just thinking he was one of them some time because he says 'we'. And there is lots of ex who hate Microsoft | Sep 15 00:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it just occurred to me that my old P3 with 256mb ram may do nicely with !Debian Squeeze and !XFCE instead of !Crunchbang 9.04 and !OpenBox | Sep 15 00:05 | |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: So like living in svergie? | Sep 15 00:07 |
| sebsebseb | nice country really, not rather destroyed by people | Sep 15 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | like UK and so on | Sep 15 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | more trees than people :) | Sep 15 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | nice lakes to swim in and such | Sep 15 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | not that much traffic on the roads, and yeah | Sep 15 00:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Even VirtualBox is better, it's lighter and faster than VMware. | Sep 15 00:08 | |
| Mikko__ | laws that comes from 1984 | Sep 15 00:08 |
| Mikko__ | lots of traffic on the roads near stockholm and gothenburg | Sep 15 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | well near Stockholm and Göteborg of course, since one is the capital of Sweden, and the other is a pretty famous place | Sep 15 00:11 |
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| sebsebseb | Mikko__: yeah Svergie is a lovely country, except for TV | Sep 15 00:13 |
| Mikko__ | what's wrong with tv? | Sep 15 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: sucks | Sep 15 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Just read through a long list of !koffice commits all new for the upcoming 2.3 and its impressive already! !kde !odf | Sep 15 00:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Obama Administration Funds the Tobacco Patent Lobby” and Goetz's Pro- #swpats Piece Vanishes, Reappears, Debunked http://ur1.ca/1mkmx | Sep 15 00:13 | |
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| sebsebseb | main channels aren'te ven on in the day | Sep 15 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | stuff lik ethat | Sep 15 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | getting the subitles wrong when its TV in English, and that kind of thing as well | Sep 15 00:14 |
| Mikko__ | cable tv and sattelite tv | Sep 15 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | even the cable / satalite TV in Sweden isn't that good, from my little expereince with it | Sep 15 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | UK is great for TV really | Sep 15 00:14 |
| Mikko__ | your tv license is from hell | Sep 15 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | Why do you say that? | Sep 15 00:15 |
| Mikko__ | here they can't force them selfe in to your appartment | Sep 15 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | altough yeah would have to pay Rupert Murdoch if wanting most channels, which isn't that great | Sep 15 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | altough yeah here would... above | Sep 15 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: most of the TV I watch is American | Sep 15 00:16 |
| Mikko__ | ditto | Sep 15 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | with the exception of documentires here and there, and news, and stuff like that | Sep 15 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: ditto is same here? | Sep 15 00:17 |
| Mikko__ | mm | Sep 15 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | what does ditto mean again? | Sep 15 00:17 |
| *sebsebseb doesn't like most British TV | Sep 15 00:17 | |
| Mikko__ | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ditto | Sep 15 00:18 |
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| Mikko__ | i like sci-fi | Sep 15 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: I like a bit of Sci Fi here and there yeah, more of a Horror person though | Sep 15 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | and Action | Sep 15 00:20 |
| Mikko__ | k | Sep 15 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | Mikko__: Comedy not so much for me, but I like South Park :) | Sep 15 00:20 |
| Mikko__ | Simpsons | Sep 15 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah Simpsons | Sep 15 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | Family GUy was alright, but did you know that | Sep 15 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | they were going to have a whole episode dedicated to | Sep 15 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | adveritisng Vista version 2, luckily that didn't happen :) | Sep 15 00:22 |
| Mikko__ | heh | Sep 15 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | why heh? | Sep 15 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | I don't like Family Guy as much anymore, and not, because of that | Sep 15 00:23 |
| Mikko__ | i tested vista at the wow thingie and the pc gave me a bsod :D | Sep 15 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | wow thingie? | Sep 15 00:23 |
| Mikko__ | the wow starts now | Sep 15 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | well it deleted my seperate /home partition and data twice | Sep 15 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,because I re installed it twice when it did | Sep 15 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | and it wanted to put a partition where there was one basically, and as far as I know I told it to do in unalloacted space, but still did it | Sep 15 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | second time round I coudn't recover as much with testdisk it seems, but well didn't lose anything important anyway :) | Sep 15 00:24 |
| Mikko__ | k | Sep 15 00:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] First impressions of Linux Mint Debian I'm more than a little intrigued http://ht.ly/190BYS | Sep 15 00:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Protests continue in Greece http://ur1.ca/1mktx | Sep 15 00:42 | |
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| schestowitz | we should counter Microsoft like this | Sep 15 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Get a big boat to Greece, then a mob to Redmond through the Mediterranean and Atlantic | Sep 15 00:45 |
| cubevector | the wow starts now? ;-) | Sep 15 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Sep 15 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft would not know what hit them | Sep 15 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Donkey Kong would hurl barrels at them | Sep 15 00:46 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe they'd meet some pirates in person ;) | Sep 15 00:50 |
| schestowitz | arrr dly | Sep 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | FFII: " @schestowitz Tobacco refers to "smoking", a special client in lobby business. " | Sep 15 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I think that's what I said | Sep 15 00:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Still Profits From Its Software Being Broken http://ur1.ca/1mkxe #word #office #seven | Sep 15 00:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber Congrats @johnsu01! http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2010/09/msg00019.html | Sep 15 00:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More evidence surfaces which shows that #WPF and #Silverlight are dying http://ur1.ca/1mky0 another one http://ur1.ca/yo9o | Sep 15 00:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn it is not we who are insane | Sep 15 01:00 | |
| cubevector | the wow never started | Sep 15 01:06 |
| cubevector | windows probably hit it's zenith with win2k | Sep 15 01:06 |
| schestowitz | zune? | Sep 15 01:06 |
| cubevector | not saying win2k was good, just it was the least shitty | Sep 15 01:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Talk for Cloudconf Got Refused Because Microsoft Gets to Approve Every Speaker” http://ur1.ca/1ml0g #Microsoft #fud | Sep 15 01:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] PA's Dept. of Homeland Security Shared Oil-Shale Protester Info With Companies http://ur1.ca/1ml0h | Sep 15 01:07 | |
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| schestowitz | new year bug | Sep 15 01:07 |
| schestowitz | like win2k 9 years late | Sep 15 01:07 |
| schestowitz | its zenith was when it lost money and Gates fled CEO seat | Sep 15 01:07 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: I'm starting the post about the show | Sep 15 01:08 |
| schestowitz | where we need to plug the transcript | Sep 15 01:08 |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: I am not finished, I had to go do some sftuf. | Sep 15 01:09 |
| schestowitz | OK, I'll wait | Sep 15 01:09 |
| cubevector | did kde ever have a thesaurus? | Sep 15 01:09 |
| gnufreex | It goes slower than I thought. | Sep 15 01:09 |
| gnufreex | I think I can't do it all today | Sep 15 01:09 |
| gnufreex | Should I skip the parts that are not Microsoft? | Sep 15 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Sep 15 01:18 |
| schestowitz | I'll use what I have of them | Sep 15 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Gist | Sep 15 01:18 |
| gnufreex | I skiped the part about seeds | Sep 15 01:18 |
| schestowitz | The post is about Microsoft anyway | Sep 15 01:18 |
| schestowitz | OK, cool :-) | Sep 15 01:18 |
| gnufreex | The patented seeds | Sep 15 01:18 |
| cubevector | who is Jaleman? Is that an alias? | Sep 15 01:21 |
| cubevector | ok, well wordnet looks interesting | Sep 15 01:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] ♺ @mairin: Google Engineer Stalked Teens, Spied on Chats http://gawker.com/5637234/ | Sep 15 01:38 | |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: I sent you personal mesage | Sep 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Sep 15 01:41 |
| schestowitz | almost done with my draft, too | Sep 15 01:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] No asylum for Iranian woman http://ur1.ca/1mlbj | Sep 15 01:43 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I got autoreply message. Did you get a mail with ODT file? | Sep 15 01:49 |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 15 01:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,isn't that a version of "I'm not crazy;it's the world that's crazy"? Isn't it dangerous when one starts down that line of thinking? | Sep 15 01:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Claimed HDCP master key leak could be fatal to DRM scheme http://eff.org/r.r6d | Sep 15 01:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Wow, #TeXLive is a colossal licensing mess. | Sep 15 02:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Geany is awesome !php editor! I should have used it before! | Sep 15 02:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] People lack economic sense: http://lnxwalt.xanga.com/720044065/economic-sense-why-dont-people-have-any/ | Sep 15 02:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Tech Exchange Explains How #Microsoft Derailed !GNU !Linux in Governments, Using “Corruption” http://ur1.ca/1mlqj | Sep 15 02:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Google Confirms Firing Engineer For Privacy Violations http://gawker.com/5638199/ | Sep 15 02:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Boeing bonanza in $60 Billion weapons sale http://ur1.ca/1mlu1 | Sep 15 02:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Claimed HDCP master key leak could be fatal to DRM scheme http://eff.org/r.r6d | Sep 15 02:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF's former Int'l Outreach Coordinator Danny O'Brien on the Haystack controversy. http://eff.org/r.3rc | Sep 15 02:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #God_bless fsf. | Sep 15 03:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice WeTab (running MeeGo) - available in Germany next week apparently - http://ur1.ca/1mmdm | Sep 15 04:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jerezim RT @telecomix Mexican @SecEconomia !ACTA meeting MPAA asks to cut access/country to *dangerous* sites like @wikileaks. via @pizu | Sep 15 04:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Just bought and watching Prince of Persia! | Sep 15 04:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] This Is The Second Time A Google Engineer Has Been Fired For Accessing User�Data http://tcrn.ch/aiH5hG | Sep 15 05:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench Not everyone that Chuck Norris is mad at gets killed. Some get away. They are called astronauts. | Sep 15 05:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] @laurelrusswurm Sry, we usually prefer open & free services like ur1.ca, too. Here is the link: http://bramcohen.livejournal.com/73933.html | Sep 15 06:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] 2.4.x Maintainer Willy Tarreau on "Why are you still using kernel 2.4?": "One word : stability." http://bit.ly/9BHT88 #linux #kernel | Sep 15 06:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Full speed ahead http://ur1.ca/1mnzu | Sep 15 07:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More on Internet Intellectuals and the Haystack Affair - http://bit.ly/agfspP at the heart of this lies the need for open code #haystack | Sep 15 08:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Linux developer in solo bid to enforce GPL - http://bit.ly/dlOWJl interesting approach #licensing #customs | Sep 15 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who Runs London?: New Guide Facilitates Transparency - http://bit.ly/d9QBUv handy #london #transparency | Sep 15 08:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PA's Dept. of Homeland Security Shared Oil-Shale Protester Info With Companies - http://bit.ly/9nNV12 says it all, really #oil #us | Sep 15 08:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Young man's life carelessly placed on hold http://ur1.ca/1moi8 | Sep 15 08:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] How to Create a Custom !Debian Live CD through the Web http://bit.ly/9bmk8l | Sep 15 08:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @gotunandan How to Create a Custom !Debian Live CD through the Web http://bit.ly/9bmk8l | Sep 15 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] via @harishpillay impressive stuff by WeTab (running MeeGo). A tablet PC still seems pointless to my own use, yet it's cool | Sep 15 08:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @gotunandan Direct link to web script: http://live-helper.debian.net/cgi-bin/live-helper | Sep 15 08:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Discussion re #swpats on patentlyO http://ur1.ca/1mp1n IMO trolls, frivolous, businesspats are just epiphenomena of s/thing wrong per se | Sep 15 08:55 | |
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| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20016323-264.html | Sep 15 09:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shuttleworth answers Ubuntu Linux's critics http://ur1.ca/1mkq7 They have /many/ critics | Sep 15 09:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @fabsh In case you didn't notice: !LinuxOutlaws turned three years old on Sunday. :) | Sep 15 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] It keeps coming http://ur1.ca/1mpc1 | Sep 15 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final scores: Los Angeles #Dodgers 1, San Francisco Giants 0; Los Angeles #Angels 3, Cleveland Indians 4; #LABaseball #baseball | Sep 15 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Luck: 9.5 minutes of sudden death averted - http://bit.ly/aShSXp truly extraordinary scenes #video #death | Sep 15 09:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First MeeGo tablet to hit market next week http://ur1.ca/1mpdv more flexible than #Android ( !linux ) | Sep 15 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Dustin Kirkland: Learning to Wink, Learning to Code http://goo.gl/18wm A cute story about Dustin's wife learning the basics of coding. :) | Sep 15 09:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @cdaffara Novell seem closing the sellout deal: SUSE goes to a "strategic vendor", the rest to private equity fund. http://bit.ly/9LIdmc | Sep 15 09:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] These Are Not The Addroids You Are Looking For - http://tcrn.ch/cf5WWY absurd trademark stuff again #trademarks | Sep 15 09:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: New Way To Get The New Official Ubuntu Font Family http://goo.gl/JyVq (actually, that was featured on ubuntu.hu weeks ago) | Sep 15 09:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu 10.10′s Free Culture showcase selections http://goo.gl/CsBl | Sep 15 09:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Finally cleared a backlog of 40+ emails... phew :| | Sep 15 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @glynmoody RT @cdaffara Novell seem closing the sellout deal: SUSE goes to a "strategic vendor", the rest to private equity fund. htt ... | Sep 15 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DeviceVM Splashtop to use MeeGo Linux http://ur1.ca/1mple that can be hundreds of millions of desktops | Sep 15 09:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Palm designer poached by Nokia for MeeGo experience http://ur1.ca/1mplz !linux #meego | Sep 15 10:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Palm designer poached by Nokia for MeeGo experience | Electronista .::. Size~: 71.27 KB | Sep 15 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Noul ministru al comunicaţiilor susţine folosirea softurilor gratuite în instituţiile statului http://is.gd/fbxx4 #romania #politics #gnu | Sep 15 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Noul ministru al comunicaţiilor susţine folosirea softurilor gratuite în instituţiile statului | Ziarul Financiar .::. Size~: 46.94 KB | Sep 15 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Trolled by a droid (TM)? Addroid is in good company anyway http://ur1.ca/1mppm (via @glynmoody). Lucasfilm #fail. | Sep 15 10:12 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/09/12/nokia%E2%80%99s-new-ceo-challenges/ | Sep 15 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia’s New CEO: Challenges | Monday Note .::. Size~: 94.87 KB | Sep 15 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pandora !Linux Handheld Gaming Console Back on Pre-Order After Sell Out http://ur1.ca/1mpql | Sep 15 10:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pandora Linux Handheld Gaming Console Back on Pre-Order After Sell Out - DeviceMAG .::. Size~: 27.97 KB | Sep 15 10:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Recycling creates jobs http://ur1.ca/1mpwm | Sep 15 10:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA serves up a rejected Telecoms Package clause - http://bit.ly/ajJr4K but sneakily #telecomspackage #acta | Sep 15 10:32 | |
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| schestowitz | "Linux, too, works quite well. The Linux loonies, well … they’re another story. " http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/are-microsoft-lawyers-partying-with-putin-to-harass-russian-rebels/9388 and this ZDNet stuff is in Google NEWS? | Sep 15 10:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are Microsoft lawyers partying with Putin to harass Russian rebels? | ZDNet .::. Size~: 130.66 KB | Sep 15 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Playing with MySql Clusters today :-) http://richs-lxh.com/mysql-cluster-quick-start-guide/ | Sep 15 10:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mysql Cluster Quick Start Guide | Father, Husband, Linux Geek& .::. Size~: 28.74 KB | Sep 15 10:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Ultimate #Privacy: How to Disappear http://is.gd/fbskq via @mrspuck | Sep 15 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA serves up a rejected Telecoms Package clause - http://bit.ly/ajJr4K but sneakily #telecomspackage #acta | Sep 15 10:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ultimate Privacy: How to Disappear, Erase Digital Footprints & Vanish Without a Trace | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 75.09 KB | Sep 15 10:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android: Opening A Pandora's Box of Licensing - http://bit.ly/9dLLVO we have a problem - and that's good #licensing #opensource | Sep 15 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I cannot figure out why but my lower lip is complete swollen. Feels like I got hit there by something but I don't remember that. Bug bite? | Sep 15 10:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I cannot figure out why but my lower lip is complete swollen. Feels like I got hit there by something but I don't remember that. Bug bite? | Sep 15 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crowdsourcing Project Hopes to Make Short Work of Transcribing Bentham - http://bit.ly/aUIEAO "hopes to upload 12,500 photographed pages" | Sep 15 11:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crowdsourcing Project Hopes to Make Short Work of Transcribing Bentham - Wired Campus - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 34.52 KB | Sep 15 11:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.lonad.com/2010/09/11/the-world-of-playstation-3/ "However, there are no provisions for Linux operating system installations." | Sep 15 11:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @aslam: following the live transcripts of #IGF2010 dynamic coalition on open... http://www.streamtext.net/text.aspx?event=I... | Sep 15 11:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Could diversity be making us more civil? - http://bit.ly/bz1kHl “We have to be polite because we are so different.” | Sep 15 11:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Could diversity be making us more civil? | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 44.26 KB | Sep 15 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jerezim Red Alert on Net Freedoms! MEPs shall reject the Gallo Report! http://ur1.ca/1mqgq #CopyrightMafia #Sarkozy #EuroParl | Sep 15 11:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Alert on Net Freedoms! MEPs shall Reject the Gallo Report | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 28.63 KB | Sep 15 11:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Oil spill effects are long-term http://ur1.ca/1mqp4 | Sep 15 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @bkuhn: maybe check with a neurologist as well? Don't want to sound a false alarm but a colleague of my mother ignored a stroke that way | Sep 15 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tim Berners-Lee calls for free data for all humanity - http://bbc.in/cDQFxv bad headline: means free access (via @karounos) #timbl | Sep 15 11:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Tim Berners-Lee calls for free data for all humanity .::. Size~: 47.09 KB | Sep 15 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linuxaria Kvm, Virtualbox or Vmware ? Linuxaria http://ow.ly/2EuKG | Sep 15 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Linux Is Poised for Domination http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/70774.html | Sep 15 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] More Than 60 Schools in Kaohsiung City Signed the Software Freedom Manifesto - Chao-Kuei's Notes | 資訊.人.權.貴 隨便記 http://ow.ly/2EuN0 | Sep 15 11:38 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More Than 60 Schools in Kaohsiung City Signed the Software Freedom Manifesto - Chao-Kuei's Notes | 資訊.人.權.貴 隨便記 .::. Size~: 25.49 KB | Sep 15 11:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The [UK] Government are committed to using more open source solutions where possible." - http://bit.ly/aGTB6H getting there #opensource | Sep 15 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Project #OpenIndiana is a continuation of the #OpenSolaris operating system http://ow.ly/2EuQd | Sep 15 11:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Government Departments: Computer...: 14 Sep 2010: Written answers and statements (TheyWorkForYou.com) .::. Size~: 16.37 KB | Sep 15 11:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iTWire - !Linux developer in solo bid to enforce #GPL http://ow.ly/2EuSa | Sep 15 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Website of all-parliamentary group on the #DEact - http://bit.ly/dlP8y5 even has Twitter feed (via @openrightsgroup) #uk | Sep 15 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to Start Learning !Linux | etbe - Russell Coker http://ow.ly/2EuT9 | Sep 15 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] poll: deleting directories containing unversioned files « Bazaar developers’ blog http://ow.ly/2EuVe | Sep 15 11:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] First-Person Shooter Game for !Linux: Warsow Review | TuxArena http://ow.ly/2EuWU | Sep 15 11:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First-Person Shooter Game for Linux: Warsow Review | TuxArena .::. Size~: 46.26 KB | Sep 15 11:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Musopen is a group that's been trying to release classical music that's long out of copyright back into the public domain http://ow.ly/2EuY9 | Sep 15 11:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Linux Tips & Tricks: Help fund free culture .::. Size~: 78.16 KB | Sep 15 11:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mozilla suspends !Firefox updates | THINQ.co.uk http://ow.ly/2Ev3g | Sep 15 11:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Fedora defers systemd to F15 [LWN.net] http://ow.ly/2Evai | Sep 15 11:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] City of Marseille chooses Windows 7 over GNU/Linux [fr] - http://bit.ly/agmKJW shan't be going *there* for my hols #france #linux | Sep 15 11:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora defers systemd to F15 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 81.33 KB | Sep 15 11:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spotify closing in on 10 million users across Europe - http://bit.ly/dsKOCA only 5% paying? (via @remixtures) #spotify #eu | Sep 15 12:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Music Ally | Blog Archive » Spotify closing in on 10 million users across Europe .::. Size~: 19.96 KB | Sep 15 12:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody: if one reads the post, the reasons are: 1) FUD, 2) lock-in and 3) lock-in. :-/ #successisforthebrave http://is.gd/fbE7C | Sep 15 12:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !OpenSource Group Rejects #ProjectCanvas - Joins Virgin in Fighting Against New UK Standard http://ow.ly/2Evwr | Sep 15 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Cracking !Linux on the Desktop – A Proposal « The ERACC Web Log http://ow.ly/2Evz3 | Sep 15 12:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ruiseabra, Don't think it's neurological: I'm able to move lip entirely;just swollen. Possible I smacked myself in the face & just forgot. | Sep 15 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] US mostly mute on violence against Palestinians http://ur1.ca/1mra2 | Sep 15 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] New Romanian IT&C Minister seeks to introduce Free Software in Public Administration http://is.gd/fbFi9 #romania #open #gnu #linux #ooo | Sep 15 12:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What is the advantage of using free-of-charge software in state institutions? | Ziarul Financiar .::. Size~: 40.03 KB | Sep 15 12:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thestar.com/article/859233--geist-significant-new-costs-loom-for-students | Sep 15 12:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Geist: Significant new costs loom for students - thestar.com .::. Size~: 78.23 KB | Sep 15 12:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !XFCE looks odd with a Tint2 panel and Conky in !Crunchbang 10, I am impressed with it though, despite not usually installing alpha OS's | Sep 15 12:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe Now over 670 submissions for !fsfe 's #pdfreaders proprietary advertising bug hunt: http://l.fsfe.org/pdfr | Sep 15 12:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Big things are coming up. Nuff said. And no, it is not Red Hat being bought. | Sep 15 12:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] HTC launches a lovely new !android phone http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-launches-the-desire-hd-an-evo-for-the-rest-of-world/ | Sep 15 12:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HTC launches the Desire HD: an EVO for the rest of world -- Engadget .::. Size~: 66.03 KB | Sep 15 12:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Interesting article about mate crime http://bit.ly/dkvfLT | Sep 15 12:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'Mate crime' fears for people with learning disabilities | Society | The Guardian .::. Size~: 75.61 KB | Sep 15 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Sutor's Apple lust carries on..http://www.sutor.com/c/2010/09/daily-links-for-09112010/ | Sep 15 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Daily links for 09/11/2010 | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 50.64 KB | Sep 15 12:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jedi at the Pentagon lol http://bit.ly/d0Hy9s | Sep 15 12:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pass notes No: 2,846: Jedi knights | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 73.65 KB | Sep 15 12:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HTC Desire Z and Desire HD are Official http://phandroid.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-and-desire-hd-are-official/ !android !lo via @phandroid | Sep 15 12:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HTC Desire Z and Desire HD are Official | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 31 KB | Sep 15 12:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Divide and conquer? #NOVL rumours floating around: http://is.gd/fbHPE | Sep 15 13:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell Inc. reaches two-part sale: sources - NYPOST.com .::. Size~: 59.74 KB | Sep 15 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @glynmoody: I would not pay for spotify but 5% paying seems pretty good to me. Murdoch could only dream of such figures. | Sep 15 13:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jwildeboer: embargoed until when? | Sep 15 13:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MIPS Technology Challenges ARM's Cell Phone Chip Design Monopoly - Seeking Alpha http://ping.fm/2PYWN | Sep 15 13:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd imagine it's just a bug, but !crunchbang 10 xfce $home is also $desktop, so any icons on the desktop = your whole home folder | Sep 15 13:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MIPS Technology Challenges ARM's Cell Phone Chip Design Monopoly -- Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 79.4 KB | Sep 15 13:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What's your purpose? Where are your walls? Are you building a #community or a club? http://bit.ly/awVEEz #opensource #open #mission | Sep 15 13:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Are you building a community or a club? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 42.4 KB | Sep 15 13:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/9/2010: WeTab With !Linux is Coming, #Pandora Linux-based Handheld Sells Out http://ur1.ca/1ms0u !techrights | Sep 15 13:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 15/9/2010: WeTab With Linux is Coming, Pandora Linux-based Handheld Sells Out | Techrights .::. Size~: 140.23 KB | Sep 15 13:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The right not to answer http://ur1.ca/1ms1t | Sep 15 13:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] http://ow.ly/2Exuc | Sep 15 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Does the Linux desktop matter? http://ur1.ca/1ms5l | Sep 15 13:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Does the Linux desktop matter? | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 74.54 KB | Sep 15 13:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Patent application Flowchart http://ow.ly/2Exuc | Sep 15 13:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] UK government hands £500M copyright enforcement and censorship tab to nation's Internet users http://ur1.ca/1ms6u | Sep 15 13:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK government hands £500M copyright enforcement and censorship tab to nation's Internet users - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 29.22 KB | Sep 15 13:42 |
| oiaohm | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Amino-Freedom/ Pitty about the silverlight include. | Sep 15 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First MeeGo set-top box emerges - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.1 KB | Sep 15 13:48 |
| oiaohm | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/DeviceVM-Splashtop-with-MeeGo/ | Sep 15 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Splashtop fast-boot tech opens up with new MeeGo version - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.27 KB | Sep 15 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Hmm this is a meego week | Sep 15 13:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Romanian government considering open source - http://bit.ly/9nNtfg "first interoperability rules will be set". hopeful (via @razvansandu) | Sep 15 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @glynmoody: Thanks :) | Sep 15 13:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What is the advantage of using free-of-charge software in state institutions? | Ziarul Financiar .::. Size~: 40.02 KB | Sep 15 13:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Looks like there won't be any freely distributable broadcom firmware for devices supported by b43 in the near future http://bit.ly/bqgdcP | Sep 15 14:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @glynmoody: An expanded version of the news is here (automatic translation) http://tinyurl.com/3y6ocgx | Sep 15 14:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Traducere .::. Size~: 1.34 KB | Sep 15 14:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @karsten: How to read a patent in 60 seconds http://ur1.ca/1msfr Useful + very funny #swpat !fsfe | Sep 15 14:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dan Shapiro » How to read a patent in 60 seconds .::. Size~: 45.74 KB | Sep 15 14:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Linus is a USA citizen we hear. How does that work? Do you keep your previous citizenship as well? Is it optional? !linux | Sep 15 14:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Romania ARE site-uri guvernamentale care fac reclamă softului proprietar ! Puteți populariza ?: http://www.fsfe.org/campaigns/pdfreaders/ | Sep 15 14:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help us to prevent Internet filters in Europe! - http://bit.ly/dsmNPi a real danger #censorship #eu | Sep 15 14:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Help us to prevent Internet filters in Europe! : netzpolitik.org .::. Size~: 65.2 KB | Sep 15 14:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures Patents Showing Up In More And More Lawsuits - http://bit.ly/d4jEYB surprise! not. #patenttrolls #intellectualventures | Sep 15 14:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Intellectual Ventures Patents Showing Up In More And More Lawsuits | Techdirt .::. Size~: 27.56 KB | Sep 15 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Oh my gosh...Ninja Theory is going to be doing a rebooted Devil May Cry! | Sep 15 14:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] when management looses control they tend to put more procedures and management in-place; this works counteractive. | Sep 15 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Help us to prevent Internet filters in Europe! - http://bit.ly/dsmNPi a real danger #censorship #eu | Sep 15 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me considers setting up a Linux/Open Source/Development consultancy in !China; deals with #tosw, #oo and (tech) skills to be a developer! | Sep 15 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Raids justified by alleged copyright infringement http://ur1.ca/1mss0 | Sep 15 14:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Developers pull plug on Haystack anti-censorship tool for Iranians - Turns out it wasn't much help after all | TechEye http://ow.ly/2Ezsz | Sep 15 14:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Developers pull plug on anti-censorship tool for Iranians - Turns out it wasn't much help after all | TechEye .::. Size~: 18.59 KB | Sep 15 14:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I've just had a slice of viennetta vanilla ice cream, an another slice of viennetta chocolate ice cream, and some Lindt Lindoor chocolates. | Sep 15 14:32 | |
| TheMadHatter | Roy, FYI the Goetz Article is live again at Patently O, but is now dated Sept. 14th | Sep 15 14:32 |
| TheMadHatter | And there is this really interesting post on Ars about HDCP | Sep 15 14:33 |
| TheMadHatter | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/claimed-hdcp-master-key-leak-could-be-fatal-to-drm-scheme.ars | Sep 15 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Claimed HDCP master key leak could be fatal to DRM scheme .::. Size~: 29.92 KB | Sep 15 14:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning all, how are we doing today? | Sep 15 14:33 | |
| TheMadHatter | Could be interesting. | Sep 15 14:33 |
| TheMadHatter | Not sure yet. | Sep 15 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] F-Spot 0.8.0 Released! http://ping.fm/LGutk | Sep 15 14:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: F-Spot 0.8.0 Released! | The Life of RubenV .::. Size~: 22.23 KB | Sep 15 14:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All I am saying is that it a complicated issue that will carry on being fudged. | Sep 15 14:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I can feel myself getting a cold. :-/ Time to start slamming Vitamin C. Ugh. | Sep 15 14:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] S/W development done wrong: today a colleague downloaded a Subversion repository by hand with a tool like getright! #LOL #dailywtf #china | Sep 15 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The new popular talking point this week (so far in 3 sites this week) is that Android is bad, vicious, business-hostile and closed. | Sep 15 15:17 | |
| Ziomatrix | We're in an environment where businesses are openly hostile to their customers with draconian EULAs and fees which make them pull feature or remote kill devices on a moment's notice. Yet the suckers keep on buying it up anyway. :-( | Sep 15 15:23 |
| Ziomatrix | EULAs, DRM and fees | Sep 15 15:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The Story of Stuff http://ur1.ca/1mtmj | Sep 15 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @estherschindler: "Office romance 101: Relationship advice for managers" http://bit.ly/95kOLt What do you when your people are dating? | Sep 15 15:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, #TeX always had licensing annoyances. Like old-BSD,it's the problem of stuff that was !Free Software bf. that idea was formalized. | Sep 15 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @rahulsundaram: Google Engineer Stalked Teens, Spied on Chats http://ur1.ca/1mk60 Be careful about trust | why the pictures? | Sep 15 15:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On innovation and participation - http://bit.ly/d56Gwk good points about fundamental flaws in business model of many open source companies | Sep 15 15:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @jwildeboer,I've been thinking since I saw that last night. Maybe #Google's new motto must be "We won't be evil, but our employees might be" | Sep 15 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I tend to agree (as frequently happens) with @maslett on his last blog entry on innovation (?) and participation (!). http://ur1.ca/1mtrj | Sep 15 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Maybe I should not have used the term "freely distributable" in my earlier tweet/dent, as using "free" is is not 100% accurate... | Sep 15 15:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] OpenIndiana launches http://lwn.net/Articles/405313/rss | Sep 15 15:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ziua Libertății Programelor ( Software Freedom Day ) - a Romanian campaign organised by #Ceata http://is.gd/fbUyc #sfd #gnu #linux #romania | Sep 15 15:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @maelle: RT @fsfe we just crossed the line of the 700 submissions on !fsfe's #pdfreaders campaign ! http://l.fsfe.org/pdfr | Sep 15 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @pgraner Colin King of the Ubuntu Kernel Team talks about BIOS & Firmware fixing he does for Canonical: http://tinyurl.com/2vzhs2c | Sep 15 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @alinamierlus: Help us to prevent Net filters in Europe! http://www.netzpolitik.org/2010/help-us-to-prevent-internet-filters-in-europe/ | Sep 15 15:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Words may be like weapons, but they're also like bedding. When you leave important ones out of a message, you can make someone lose sleep. | Sep 15 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Government Data Camp - http://bit.ly/bQC2zm London, November "two days of discussions, drafting, planning and hacking" (via @karounos) | Sep 15 15:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Happened to Our Facebook Page with 10,000+ Supporters? - http://bit.ly/dB0kaf shabby, Facebook (via @rmack @wikileaks) #facebook | Sep 15 16:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @tante Great summary by Matthew Garret about the Ubuntu Development model http://is.gd/fbUkP !linux !lo | Sep 15 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Remotely wiping mobile phones http://lwn.net/Articles/404989/rss | Sep 15 16:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Will he agree with software patents ??? And Open Source is communism ??? #fear | Sep 15 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Shark victims become shark allies http://ur1.ca/1mubc | Sep 15 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Did you see this: http://bit.ly/9LIdmc ??? | Sep 15 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @jwildeboer: EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: Hello mate. Well people swear to the strangest things when money is involved. For instance apparently nicotine is not addictive | Sep 15 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @jwildeboer: EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera At least we have Michael Moore and Rick Stallman, to defend libertarian ideals in the land of the FEE. ;-) | Sep 15 16:38 | |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: are you hare? | Sep 15 16:39 |
| gnufreex | here | Sep 15 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Novell being sold in parts. What will become of OpenSuse ??? ur1.ca/1mui8 | Sep 15 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: land of the fee :) | Sep 15 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Novell será vendida em partes. O que será do Open Suse ??? http://ur1.ca/1mui8 | Sep 15 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @joindiaspora Preparing for tomorrow's open source release! Alpha still slated for October. #diaspora | Sep 15 16:40 | |
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| gnufreex | They are just pumping stock. | Sep 15 16:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German health cards and ID cards linked [de] - http://bit.ly/b4ENAY [uk] - http://bit.ly/97eGBB had to happen #privacy #de | Sep 15 16:43 | |
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| gnufreex | Why would Novell anounce sale in 6 weeks? | Sep 15 16:44 |
| gnufreex | You anounce deal when it is done. | Sep 15 16:44 |
| gnufreex | And when it is definitive | Sep 15 16:45 |
| gnufreex | They are just trying to pump stock | Sep 15 16:45 |
| gnufreex | They have nothing. | Sep 15 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Hi, gnufreex | Sep 15 16:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Novell being sold in parts. What will become of OpenSuse ??? ur1.ca/1mui8 | Sep 15 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We have just had new series of King of the Hill here in UK, was I the only person who felt uncomfortable watching episode about Canadians? | Sep 15 16:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Research Data: Who will share what, with whom, when, and why? - http://bit.ly/9pm1Zo big question for data-driven research #data #sharing | Sep 15 16:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RP @schestowitz @agentsmith Novell being sold in parts. What will become of OpenSuse ??? ur1.ca/1mui8 | Sep 15 16:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When You Realize That Copyright Law Violates Free Speech Rights, You Begin To Recognize The Problems... - http://bit.ly/czZhyn good roundup | Sep 15 16:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sources: #Novell Being Sliced and Sold http://techrights.org/2010/09/15/two-part-sale-deal/ | Sep 15 16:55 | |
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| schestowitz_log | <gnufreex> They are just trying to pump stock | Sep 15 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Would that necesarily up it without downing it later? | Sep 15 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Novell has no comments, so maybe the rumour is from a pumper | Sep 15 16:56 |
| gnufreex | Posibly | Sep 15 16:57 |
| gnufreex | Or maybe Novell is pumping it to buy time | Sep 15 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Doubtful | Sep 15 16:57 |
| gnufreex | Their Market Cap was 1.9b yesterday | Sep 15 16:57 |
| schestowitz | They have just announced a new product | Sep 15 16:57 |
| schestowitz | This type of deal has been cooking for a while anyway | Sep 15 16:58 |
| gnufreex | If it slides more, they can't get same offer as they got from Elliot | Sep 15 16:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kroes wants to include developing countries in Internet governance - http://bit.ly/9qjbVN won't go down too well in some quarters... #igf | Sep 15 16:58 | |
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| gnufreex | Shareholder would sue for refusing Elliot offer | Sep 15 16:58 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/50632540 "@schestowitz Did you see this: http://bit.ly/9LIdmc ???" | Sep 15 16:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 15-Sep-10 15:34:27 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.76 KB | Sep 15 16:59 |
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| gnufreex | If market cap goes under 1.9B | Sep 15 16:59 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/50634437 "RP @schestowitz @agentsmith Novell being sold in parts. What will become of OpenSuse ??? ur1.ca/1mui8 " | Sep 15 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex:how sure are you it works like this? | Sep 15 17:00 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: gtg | Sep 15 17:01 |
| schestowitz | for a while | Sep 15 17:01 |
| gnufreex | ok | Sep 15 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Some pppl like !Free as in Freedom, others like Free as in Price. Then, ∃ those that prefer Free as in Ride, (i.e. Free as in Freeloader). | Sep 15 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Received tweets hinting VMware's the mystery buyer of Novell #Novell Sold to #VMware | Sep 15 17:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Half of my travel agent duty done for today. Now time to hit the gym, then return to finish the other half, plus expense reports. | Sep 15 17:08 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Red when you get back: What I meant is that Novell is getting panicky because their market cap is sliding below the level it was when Eliot made them an offer. If it falls bellow that level, then buyers are going to offer less than Elliot offered. And shareholders might sue because they got the worse deal because Hovsepian turned down Elliot offer without leting shareholders vote (there was no vote about Elliot | Sep 15 17:09 |
| gnufreex | offer). But that is just me thinking loud. | Sep 15 17:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Does Ark on !kde not support password protected rar files ? Need to manually use " $ unrar e password-protected.rar" as an alternative | Sep 15 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Extreme danger on roads of poor countries http://ur1.ca/1muzm | Sep 15 17:30 | |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Sep 15 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu 10.10 Sound applet buttons now respect your theme http://goo.gl/NDYM | Sep 15 17:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] copyright assignments gone wild, or why i can not join Canonical's contributor agreement program - http://bit.ly/9YRwVy heavy stuff | Sep 15 17:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "dog-pile on .. hur?" you ask? it's an online plasma doc writing event! http://ur1.ca/1mv73 | Sep 15 17:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First MeeGo set-top box emerges http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Amino-Freedom/ How hackable? | Sep 15 18:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @kernellogauthor Looks like there won't be any freely distributable broadcom firmware for devices supported by b43.. http://bit.ly/bqgdcP | Sep 15 18:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Novell Inc. reaches two-part sale deal (NY Post) http://lwn.net/Articles/405362/rss | Sep 15 18:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner F-Spot is mono | Sep 15 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How piracy works. - http://bit.ly/cj7qEu "Piracy will win in the long run. It has to. The alternative is too scary." good, sane stuff | Sep 15 18:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @@carlopiana ♺ @jwildeboer: EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 18:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz ♺ @@carlopiana ♺ @jwildeboer: EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 18:23 | |
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| *WireWulf is now known as Cuan | Sep 15 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Received tweets hinting VMware's the mystery buyer of Novell #Novell Sold to #VMware | Sep 15 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @satipera true | Sep 15 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Ask for stricter safety standards http://ur1.ca/1mvrf | Sep 15 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #VMware Eyed As Strategic Buyer of Novell's #SUSE !Linux http://ur1.ca/1mvrq Maritz and fellow executives from #Microsoft run VMware | Sep 15 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We have no intention of shipping another bloated OS and shoving it down the throats of our users." -Paul Maritz, former Microsoft VP | Sep 15 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “...[C]ut off Netscape’s air supply.” =-Paul Maritz, Vice President, Microsoft (now VMWare CEO) | Sep 15 18:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz All those acquisitions R eroding the Linux ecossystem. Hard times ahead, IMHO | Sep 15 18:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Says Violating Company Policies Is Not a Computer Crime http://eff.org/r.2re | Sep 15 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Compromising Twitter's OAuth security system (Ars) http://bit.ly/bSajof | Sep 15 18:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Revised Opinion in Privacy Case Blurs Clear Limits to Digital Search and Seizure http://eff.org/r.2rf | Sep 15 18:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/405381/rss | Sep 15 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Jack-Booted Thugs and Copyright Enforcement http://eff.org/r.r6g | Sep 15 18:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And Suse and Open Suse in the hands of Maritz... #fear | Sep 15 18:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Nathan Haines on the default wallpaper in Ubuntu #Maverick: The importance of default backgrounds http://goo.gl/I0Xl | Sep 15 19:09 | |
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| sebsebseb | jono: About? | Sep 15 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith what about Google and IBM? | Sep 15 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Privacy and Safety Questions Loom Over Federal Program to Track Preschoolers: Open Letter from EFF and ACLU-NC http://eff.org/r.3rh | Sep 15 19:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Well, rumor has it VMware's the mystery guy. IBM would be nice. Google already has Chrome/Android. Will have to wait & see | Sep 15 19:14 | |
| jono | sebsebseb, about to run | Sep 15 19:15 |
| sebsebseb | jono: some people thought you were having a video session this week, me included | Sep 15 19:16 |
| jono | sebsebseb, yeah I am sick | Sep 15 19:19 |
| jono | hence no announcement | Sep 15 19:19 |
| sebsebseb | jono: oh | Sep 15 19:19 |
| jono | sorry | Sep 15 19:19 |
| sebsebseb | jono: hope you get better soon then | Sep 15 19:19 |
| *schestowitz seconds | Sep 15 19:20 | |
| jono | thanks! | Sep 15 19:20 |
| schestowitz | jono: Novell is over | Sep 15 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Privacy and Safety Questions Loom Over Federal Program to Track Preschoolers: Open Letter from EFF and ACLU-NC http://eff.org/r.3rh | Sep 15 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I meant, Linux is just changing hands... Android, Chrome, etc. | Sep 15 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @allanmetzler: Some pictures from this years #OLF http://ping.fm/fvkaT | Sep 15 19:20 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Novell is over? | Sep 15 19:21 |
| schestowitz | You should read Novell news | Sep 15 19:21 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Got a link? | Sep 15 19:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu #Maverick Meerkat !Unity user? Don’t update! http://goo.gl/UFmw | Sep 15 19:22 | |
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| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100915-709902.html | Sep 15 19:22 |
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| schestowitz | And NYPost has more | Sep 15 19:22 |
| gnufreex | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/15/novell_buyout_rumor/ | Sep 15 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell breakup and sale imminent, says report • The Register .::. Size~: 27.12 KB | Sep 15 19:22 |
| sebsebseb | a remour is a remour though | Sep 15 19:23 |
| sebsebseb | might not mean true | Sep 15 19:23 |
| gnufreex | Allegedly, it goes in two chunks. SuSE one. | Sep 15 19:23 |
| gnufreex | And propriatary crap | Sep 15 19:23 |
| gnufreex | another | Sep 15 19:23 |
| MinceR | what's vmware's track record regarding free software and sw patents? | Sep 15 19:23 |
| gnufreex | But I don't know where Mono is counted | Sep 15 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #VMware Eyed As Strategic Buyer of Novell's #SUSE !Linux http://ur1.ca/1mvrq Maritz and fellow executives from #Microsof ... | Sep 15 19:24 | |
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| gnufreex | [18:08:22] <gnufreex> schestowitz: Red when you get back: What I meant is that Novell is getting panicky because their market cap is sliding below the level it was when Eliot made them an offer. If it falls bellow that level, then buyers are going to offer less than Elliot offered. And shareholders might sue because they got the worse deal because Hovsepian turned down Elliot offer without leting shareholders vote (there was no | Sep 15 19:24 |
| gnufreex | vote about Elliot offer). But that is just me thinking loud. | Sep 15 19:24 |
| gnufreex | This is what I think... | Sep 15 19:24 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 15 19:24 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/novell_inc_reaches_two_part_sale_lZKRHKFYO5T9cKq9Dy7WQO | Sep 15 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell Inc. reaches two-part sale: sources - NYPOST.com .::. Size~: 59.8 KB | Sep 15 19:25 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: got it | Sep 15 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz But the ecosystem is shrinking. Less truly Linux companies exist now. They R being absorbed. Look at Sun. Decaying with oracle | Sep 15 19:25 | |
| schestowitz | to be quoted later | Sep 15 19:25 |
| MinceR | re identica message: sun never was a linux company | Sep 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: utter * | Sep 15 19:26 |
| MinceR | they were more of an anti-linux company | Sep 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | But not worst | Sep 15 19:26 |
| schestowitz | GPL violators | Sep 15 19:26 |
| gnufreex | Sun GPL violators? | Sep 15 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz ♺ @@carlopiana ♺ @jwildeboer: EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody How piracy works. - http://bit.ly/cj7qEu "Piracy will win in the long run. It has to. The alternative is too scary." good, ... | Sep 15 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @rfquerin Yelled at a client today. Not sure if that was good for business, but it sure felt good. Respect is a 2-way street people. | Sep 15 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz RT @kernellogauthor Looks like there won't be any freely distributable broadcom firmware for devices supported by b43.. ... | Sep 15 19:27 | |
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| MinceR | well, maybe sun was a linux company when they tried that gnome-based "java desktop" thing | Sep 15 19:27 |
| MinceR | but certainly not when they came up with CDDL as an anti-linux weapon | Sep 15 19:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-novell-jump-6-on-buyout-report-2010-09-15 | Sep 15 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shares of Novell jump 6% on buyout report - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 78.4 KB | Sep 15 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Someone make $$ from the rumour | Sep 15 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz First MeeGo set-top box emerges http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Amino-Freedom/ How hackable? | Sep 15 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith "sun never was a linux company" -MinceR | Sep 15 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mozillazinefr Mozilla Firefox 4 bêta 6 apportent deux correctifs rapides http://tinyurl.com/3xq2vwx | Sep 15 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @siltaar ♺ @laquadrature: Alerte Rouge sur les Libertés! Les Eurodéputés doivent rejeter le Rapport Gallo! http://ur1.ca/1mtc9 !lqdn ... | Sep 15 19:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: First MeeGo set-top box emerges - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 55.1 KB | Sep 15 19:29 |
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| gnufreex | That turned out later. First they were thinking about just taking Linux and rebranding it Solaris. Then someone came up with ZFS and plas changed | Sep 15 19:29 |
| gnufreex | *plans | Sep 15 19:29 |
| gnufreex | But maybe that was only rumor. | Sep 15 19:29 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 15 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @eff Revised Opinion in Privacy Case Blurs Clear Limits to Digital Search and Seizure http://eff.org/r.2rf | Sep 15 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Revised Opinion in Privacy Case Blurs Clear Limits to Digital Search and Seizure | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.12 KB | Sep 15 19:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68E3SF20100915 http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/09/15/novell-agrees-to-sell-itself-in-two-parts-ny-post-reports/ | Sep 15 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell nearing sale, says report; shares rise| Reuters .::. Size~: 56.28 KB | Sep 15 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell Agrees To Sell Itself In Two Parts, N.Y. Post Reports - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 60.97 KB | Sep 15 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Indeed, but what Oracle has done with it, can happen with others. If U understand what I mean. | Sep 15 19:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] This is a test. Ignore this. | Sep 15 19:37 | |
| cubevector | is the Novell news good or bad? | Sep 15 19:38 |
| MinceR | depends on who the buyer is | Sep 15 19:38 |
| MinceR | though i guess it can't get worse | Sep 15 19:38 |
| MinceR | novell is already as malicious as possible | Sep 15 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I have to admit I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't respect patents enough to avoid patent threats. | Sep 15 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I understand patent threats are the only practical issue with mono? | Sep 15 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruceperens/@bruceperens] joindisapora.com front page now directs its "project" link to zombo.com . No site on github. | Sep 15 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I don't use any Mono apps, as far as I know, but I never made a conscious decision | Sep 15 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Have insurance policies caught up with activity gaming like the Wii? How many people have been hurt or possessions broken during a game? | Sep 15 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] testing 1 2 3 | Sep 15 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruceperens/@bruceperens] #Diaspora release not looking very promising, given that Maxwell Salzberg linked the project tab on the main page to Zombo.com . No github. | Sep 15 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !fedora 14 to use Canonical's Upstart not systemd http://bit.ly/cgxIV6 | Sep 15 19:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fedora 14 to use Upstart not systemd - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.71 KB | Sep 15 19:47 |
| cubevector | wow, anti OO article on linuxtoday.com then it says he's switching to Microsoft Office | Sep 15 19:49 |
| cubevector | ??? | Sep 15 19:49 |
| ThistleWeb | cubevector: maybe he wants a word processor that doesn't crash all the time | Sep 15 19:50 |
| MinceR | it's called abiword | Sep 15 19:51 |
| ThistleWeb | although I imagine my OO experience ain't the norm for people | Sep 15 19:51 |
| MinceR | ;) | Sep 15 19:51 |
| ThistleWeb | for me it's hair pullingly infuriating at just how often it crashes | Sep 15 19:51 |
| MinceR | word processors do to words what food processors do to food | Sep 15 19:51 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah exactly, abiword is solid | Sep 15 19:51 |
| cubevector | well it's not that I'm defending OO, as I don't use it | Sep 15 19:51 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd love OO to be a serious alternative, but I can't recoemnd it in good faith because of my own experiences with it | Sep 15 19:52 |
| MinceR | i consider it at least as serious as m$ office | Sep 15 19:52 |
| ThistleWeb | it may have been the ubuntu build I was using | Sep 15 19:52 |
| MinceR | but at least it supports open formats and they don't fuck up the GUI every now and then | Sep 15 19:53 |
| ThistleWeb | it is the nearest to MS office yes | Sep 15 19:53 |
| MinceR | (as opposed to m$ office) | Sep 15 19:53 |
| cubevector | I use stuff like xls2csv and ppt2text | Sep 15 19:53 |
| MinceR | i use LaTeX, LaTeX-beamer, gvim and gnumeric :> | Sep 15 19:53 |
| cubevector | but why the "Microsoft Office is better" comment on linuxtoday.com ? | Sep 15 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A Primer on #HTML5 <Video> and Why You Should Care About It | !Linux Journal http://ow.ly/2EMDy | Sep 15 19:54 | |
| cubevector | it's very inappropriate | Sep 15 19:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Primer on HTML5 <Video> and Why You Should Care About It | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 48.28 KB | Sep 15 19:54 |
| ThistleWeb | now I've switched to debian, it's probs worth giving OO a fresh start, to see if it is just the ubuntu build that's terrible | Sep 15 19:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner API control | Sep 15 19:55 | |
| cubevector | ok, it seems that article is really from a different site, and cross-pollenated over to linuxtoday | Sep 15 19:56 |
| cubevector | it's really got nothing to do with linux though | Sep 15 19:56 |
| MinceR | the question is why they're syndicating it | Sep 15 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | now I think about it, the windows portable OO seems solid, so it may just be the ubuntu build that's bad | Sep 15 19:57 |
| cubevector | actually I haven't had any problems with OO other than just slowness | Sep 15 19:58 |
| MinceR | oo calc has horrible bugs in background color handling | Sep 15 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah it is a bit slow, it alwasy has been, to catch up with the keystrokes | Sep 15 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Shuttleworth answers #Ubuntu #Linux's critics http://www.itworld.com/open-source/120540/shuttleworth-answers-ubuntu-linuxs-critics #gnu | Sep 15 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @snarf Looks like we have Adobe Flash 64bit for !Linux http://is.gd/fccJg !arch !debian !fedora !flash !mint !ubuntu | Sep 15 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner A Primer on #HTML5 <Video> and Why You Should Care About It | !Linux Journal http://ow.ly/2EMDy | Sep 15 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mohanpram !fedora 14 to use Canonical's Upstart not systemd http://bit.ly/cgxIV6 | Sep 15 19:59 | |
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| cubevector | is IBM's Lotus Symphony open? | Sep 15 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | I only use Writer so I dunno about the rest of the suite | Sep 15 19:59 |
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| MinceR | it also forces its bullshit interpretation of text on the user, like gnumeric and excel do (or at least i didn't find the way to completely turn all of it off) | Sep 15 19:59 |
| cubevector | nope, not open | Sep 15 19:59 |
| cubevector | well there's koffice | Sep 15 20:00 |
| cubevector | haven't used it in a long time though | Sep 15 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @psyk3d http://tinyurl.com/2z4c9x omg lol !Ubuntu !Linux !openSUSE !Fedora | Sep 15 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !Arsenal looking good tonight, they could be in for a good night if they keep this up | Sep 15 20:00 | |
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| ThistleWeb | never really spent time in koffice, even when I used kde | Sep 15 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | every time I try it, it feels odd | Sep 15 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | but apparently it's a very competent office suite | Sep 15 20:02 |
| MinceR | kspread seems to have serious compatibility problems regarding file formats | Sep 15 20:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] EFF Says Violating Company Policies Is Not a Computer Crime http://ping.fm/uRg2K | Sep 15 20:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Your Startup Should Be Involved in Open Source http://ping.fm/93fGS | Sep 15 20:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Kroes wants to include developing countries in #Internet governance http://tinyurl.com/34do3mp | Sep 15 20:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Profounder is a site to crowdfund startups, they have a few ex-Kiva guys on board too, looks interesting http://ur1.ca/1mwyj | Sep 15 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft makes public beta 1 of #IE 9 available for #download http://tinyurl.com/3a9jpry #windows #browser | Sep 15 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Will Librarians Leave Facebook for Diaspora? - School Library Journal http://ping.fm/MO3iP | Sep 15 20:12 | |
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| Cuan | i haz no rights | Sep 15 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !Arsenal really "should" put Braga to the swrod tonight and get a great start to their Champions League group phase, but we'll see | Sep 15 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I must admit I didn't know about that side of. | Sep 15 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 15/9/2010: More !MeeGo Wins, #DEAct Debate Reactivated http://techrights.org/2010/09/15/more-meego-wins/ !techrights | Sep 15 20:20 | |
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| *Cuan is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Sep 15 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat's new installer slideshow oozes class http://goo.gl/SR38 | Sep 15 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if some time split would have saw a site called "OMG SCO" years back, and how funny it'd be now, given how SCO self destructed | Sep 15 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @charlietca1 Want to help make sure Brasero is working in Maverick? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100916 - !ubuntu !xubuntu | Sep 15 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @cpunk #mutt 1.5.21, the "Godfather III" released today: "They keep pulling ME back in". http://ur1.ca/1mx0c !debian #linux #opensource | Sep 15 20:30 | |
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| gnufreex | I have a thought. | Sep 15 20:31 |
| gnufreex | I think if those rumors are true | Sep 15 20:31 |
| gnufreex | It is not VMware who is buying SUSE | Sep 15 20:31 |
| gnufreex | Reasons: VMware recently anounced partnership | Sep 15 20:32 |
| gnufreex | It pumped Novell stock price litle up | Sep 15 20:32 |
| gnufreex | When you buying someone, you want stock prices to go down to get it cheper | Sep 15 20:32 |
| gnufreex | VMware have posibly given up, and decided to up the price in order to make it harder for someone else to buy. | Sep 15 20:34 |
| gnufreex | But this is wishful thinking becasue I don't want VMware to have SuSE. | Sep 15 20:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Truly #orwellian - UK internet users pay for their own investigation by copyright holders. Very #weird. http://is.gd/fch2k | Sep 15 20:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] “More faces than Mount Rushmore” – Microsoft’s about turn? No alliance with Russian Government? http://tinyurl.com/2vsuhpp !microsoft | Sep 15 20:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A cautionary tale about the "Terminal Bully" http://ow.ly/2EOs5 | Sep 15 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] ok ready to replace my !opensolaris install with Open Indiana project's release. !virtualbox | Sep 15 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Tell us your favorite video game on our FaceBook wall: http://bit.ly/bqLevZ or @opensourceway us | Sep 15 20:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] South Africa Develops Nanotech ‘Tea Bag’ To Filter Water for Pennies http://ping.fm/Rr2y4 | Sep 15 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: why i can not join #Canonical's contributor agreement program - http://bit.ly/9YRwVy #canonical | Sep 15 20:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Interesting disection of corporate colors http://ur1.ca/1mxm3 | Sep 15 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] distúrbios psicocelulares: complexo de golgi é famoso, mas qual organela deixa vc sem energia, se achando doente? hipocôndria! | Sep 15 20:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell’s #SUSE Believed to be Bought by Former Microsoft Executives http://ur1.ca/1mxob All the references about #Novell and #VMware | Sep 15 21:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know if the HDCP key leak is proven to be real or a hoax? | Sep 15 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd imagine the HDCP key would be mirrored in lots of places now to avoid a takedown killing it off; DRM 0 : Internet 1, as usual | Sep 15 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !Arsenal rampant tonight, it's been a while since they've done this, keep it up lads | Sep 15 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @alek: scientist fears internet-induced "mind change". Wish they had CAT scans in Guttenberg times! http://bit.ly/9l4kUp | Sep 15 21:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oxford scientist calls for research on technology 'mind change' | Science | The Guardian .::. Size~: 193.15 KB | Sep 15 21:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] I'm so nervous. | Sep 15 21:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @carlopiana ♺ @jwildeboer: EU plans to filter internet - help us all to say NO. http://is.gd/fbYm7 - please RT! | Sep 15 21:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] "I would think that open source provides more means for somebody to utilize 'unofficial power'" says Drew K about http://bit.ly/dtnzrh | Sep 15 21:27 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all! | Sep 15 21:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think you seen this one Roy? http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1732956/security-researchers-destroy-microsoft-aspnet-security | Sep 15 21:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Announces More Proprietary Software, Promises It Reduces Lock-in http://ur1.ca/1mxwd #fogcomputing | Sep 15 21:30 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "The exploit, to be shown off at the Ekoparty Conference later this week, could affect millions of websites that use AES encryption functions built into Microsoft's ASP.NET software to protect the integrity of cookies during user sessions. Since 'sessions' are used in web applications such as online banking, shopping and just about any website that requires a login, the exploit is particularly worrying." | Sep 15 21:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Thai Duong and Juliano Rizzo, the two researchers who showcased the attack, told reporters, "We knew ASP.NET was vulnerable to our attack several months ago, but we didn't know how serious it is until a couple of weeks ago. It turns out that the vulnerability in ASP.NET is the most critical amongst other frameworks. In short, it totally destroys ASP.NET security."" | Sep 15 21:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | um | Sep 15 21:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | but heres a problem | Sep 15 21:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | ALL security bugs are critical | Sep 15 21:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Duong and Rizzo's last statement claiming that their attack "totally destroys" security is particularly chilling. Apparently the technique used in the exploit has been around since 2002 and it is surprising that not only has Microsoft missed this one but also security researchers and hackers who are usually adept at taking advantage of any seemingly minor weakness in code." | Sep 15 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | up to the point its above critical | Sep 15 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | critical just means shit can go horribly wrong | Sep 15 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | security flaws are a step above that | Sep 15 21:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | especially critial with Microsoft | Sep 15 21:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just assume Microsoft shit already has known security flaws and go from there | Sep 15 21:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | it makes life easier | Sep 15 21:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Duong said, "It's worth noting that the attack is 100 [per cent] reliable, [that is], one can be sure that once they run the attack, they can exploit the target. It's just a matter of time. If the attacker is lucky, then he can own any ASP.NET website in seconds. The average time for the attack to complete is 30 minutes. The longest time it ever takes is less than 50 minutes."" | Sep 15 21:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, and I never understood that | Sep 15 21:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | why the fuck are sites dumping traces outside of debug mode? | Sep 15 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] El KVM para los clúster virtual, mola! http://www.eurogaran.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=136&Itemid=103&lang=es | Sep 15 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] stumbled on efibootmgr in the repos, which apparently interacts with the EFI bios on Macs, not having a Mac, I dunno how special this is | Sep 15 21:35 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://newskf.com/microsoft-wants-to-borrow-because-it-can-not-repatriate-the-28-billion-abroad/11433/ | Sep 15 21:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft to borrow because it can not repatriate the 28 billion abroad | NewsKF .::. Size~: 22.77 KB | Sep 15 21:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | this article is very interesting. in what it does not say | Sep 15 21:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it appears to me, that if Microsoft actually has 36.8 billion in cash, (if we believe them or not) and its mostly outside the USA, is Microsoft doing this to avoid taxes? | Sep 15 21:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I would say yes. | Sep 15 21:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | to be fair | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you're an international company | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you can avoid taxes | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | you MUST do it | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | otherwise your shareholders could reasonably sue you if they felt like being dicks | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Or to avoid auditing, and perhaps Microsoft really does not have 36.8 billion scattered around world? | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | and generally, they're dicks | Sep 15 21:38 |
| MinceR | only if you're an international public company :> | Sep 15 21:38 |
| MinceR | but m$ is one | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well yeah | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | even private ones have owners | Sep 15 21:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | people who arent IN the company but still have large stakes | Sep 15 21:39 |
| MinceR | those owners do get to make all the calls though | Sep 15 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they usually dont get to make any | Sep 15 21:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they just get to be pissy when their investment isnt growing fast enough | Sep 15 21:39 |
| MinceR | they're usually few enough that they can say "we don't want even the appearance of evading taxes" | Sep 15 21:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | So is it possible, that MS could actually default in the USA and still be rich in the rest of the world? | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh, but theres ILLEGALLY evading taxes | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then theres doing it legally | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | without borrowing | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres an absolute fuckton of ways of screwing governments on taxes legally | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | a company MUST do it | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS has been caught evading before | Sep 15 21:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | MS has been caught bending and breaking rules | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but if no one nails them to the wall for it, they're not "wrong" | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | especially if they can pay off the right people | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | agreed | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | standard operating procedure there | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | which microsoft has 36.8 billion to do so with | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they'll pay off anyone who says otherwise | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | but hey | Sep 15 21:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its better than, say, russia | Sep 15 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | which they'll just kill you | Sep 15 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | russia is so horrible, even microsoft doesnt wanna be part of that shit | Sep 15 21:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS moves its cash around, like a 3 card monte game | Sep 15 21:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | technically thats check kiting | Sep 15 21:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | from the last link: "Microsoft?s largest software producer in the world, intends to borrow this year ?as much as possible? to pay dividends and share repurchases, the company having a lot of cash locked outside the United States, told Bloomberg a source close to the situation, says Telegraph Business." | Sep 15 21:43 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which makes me tend to think, that MS does not have a lot of free cash within the USA to use. | Sep 15 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | which that statement alone doesnt say much | Sep 15 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | they probably dont have free cash IN the us to use | Sep 15 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | I bet they have a lot of short term investments they dont wanna dump yet | Sep 15 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | or other stuff that they COULD do, but it would be not a great idea to do it | Sep 15 21:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | remember, you have to look at this in comparison to the entire economy | Sep 15 21:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you dont have to spend your own money, dont; spend money of other's | Sep 15 21:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | This is supposedly their most profitable market, so why does not Microsoft have lots of cash to spare in the USA? | Sep 15 21:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | arguably profitable | Sep 15 21:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | they probably pay the most taxes here and have the most employees here | Sep 15 21:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they are either skimming it somehow, or dodging taxes somehow | Sep 15 21:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or its just not there | Sep 15 21:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said | Sep 15 21:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you can spend the money of other before your own money, do it | Sep 15 21:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | they probably have quite a few investments that they will loose money if they sell | Sep 15 21:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | whats the word I am looking for. Laundrying | Sep 15 21:47 |
| MinceR | how difficult is it to move cash into the usa? | Sep 15 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: pita if its locked up in non-liquid assets | Sep 15 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: no. | Sep 15 21:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what I am saying, is MS is moving cash to outside the USSA | Sep 15 21:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | lets say you invested in something at the height of the market 3-4 years ago | Sep 15 21:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *USA | Sep 15 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | you havent lost any money until you're interested in selling it | Sep 15 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | once you sell it, you've THEN lost money | Sep 15 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | it works on the flip side, you havent made any money until you sell it 2-3 years from now. | Sep 15 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft, and they're not alone, has investments that would be a very bad idea to sell now | Sep 15 21:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | they COULD | Sep 15 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they'd lose money | Sep 15 21:49 |
| m1k11e | What to sell? | Sep 15 21:49 |
| *m1k11e is now known as gnufreex | Sep 15 21:49 | |
| Diablo-D3 | their strategy to borrow to meet obligations is cheaper than selling. | Sep 15 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: investments | Sep 15 21:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft has huge investment portfolio | Sep 15 21:50 |
| gnufreex | My other nick is gone wacko | Sep 15 21:50 |
| gnufreex | Quasell is buggy. | Sep 15 21:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Let me ask this question in another way. If this money is not here in the USA, and therefore MS needs to borrow it. Then which countries in particular, is where the money stored? | Sep 15 21:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | talking cash here. | Sep 15 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anyone else remember an advert for other browsers like this one? http://bbc.in/9dVf50 !BBC | Sep 15 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's Negligence in Patching (Worst Amongst All Companies) to Blame for #Stuxnet http://ur1.ca/1my4b #windows !gnu !linux #security | Sep 15 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I'm considering an alternative approach to flash my router: sshfs-mount as root of / and rsync over it via wireless :P | Sep 15 21:50 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: except you're deliberatly not listening | Sep 15 21:50 |
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| Diablo-D3 | microsoft's assets, in the US, are mostly long term investments | Sep 15 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | whats not long term is mostly short term... whats left is cash. | Sep 15 21:51 |
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| Diablo-D3 | outside of the US, they dont have this huge tilt | Sep 15 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | ergo, they CAN move money back into the US to meet the obligations | Sep 15 21:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | which has problems | Sep 15 21:51 |
| gnufreex | I didn't know M$ invests in other companies | Sep 15 21:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<Diablo-D3> Chips_B_Malroy: except you're deliberatly not listening" I understand what you are saying. All companies do it. But that would not hold up in a court of law, would it? | Sep 15 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: they do. | Sep 15 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: erm, this is standard operating procedure | Sep 15 21:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I know | Sep 15 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: theres no court of law to be entered into | Sep 15 21:52 |
| gnufreex | In fact, I know they do, but I think they only do it to kill them, not to make money. | Sep 15 21:52 |
| gnufreex | Poison pill and such | Sep 15 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: a company can borrow a shitload, legitimately, and rightfully, if they have a giant pool of assets | Sep 15 21:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | a company can do, really, whatever they want here within reason | Sep 15 21:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if they feel it costs them less to borrow than to sell assets at a loss or to move money internationally, then they will use the option that costs less | Sep 15 21:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | period. | Sep 15 21:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The only problem is how did MS move that money (launderd) made in the USA, to other countries, and did they pay taxes in the USA before doing it? | Sep 15 21:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Can a beta really be called a "launch"? What happens when it goes final, a relaunch? Reheat? Knowing MS, it will still be beta quality then | Sep 15 21:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] so glad I didn't rush for the Samsung Galaxy S. Now I can grab HTC Desire HD ! | Sep 15 21:54 | |
| Diablo-D3 | they paid the taxes on their balancesheets, not on the actual cash. | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | the IRS doesnt care how much money you have, they care how much money you EARNED | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | for _any_ given company, the cash they have is far less than what they earned. | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | so yes, the taxes have been paid | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, we are saying the same thing differently | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | a company can move money around however it so wishes | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | earnings+profits | Sep 15 21:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | earnings+profits | Sep 15 21:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | = | Sep 15 21:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if microsoft wants to move money to a country where they can better protect the money, thats okay. | Sep 15 21:55 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not plus | Sep 15 21:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | people are like WAARGHEBLE, but its within their realm of power | Sep 15 21:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | its obviously a fuck you move, but its legal | Sep 15 21:55 |
| MinceR | people like to confuse 'legal' with 'right' | Sep 15 21:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I agree | Sep 15 21:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft is required to make moves that arent right, but are still legal | Sep 15 21:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not merely that they CAN do them, but they MUST | Sep 15 21:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its also possible with a multinational company to have or control other companies, and only go bankrupt in certain companies in certain countries? | Sep 15 21:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | now, of course, there are lines you shouldnt cross | Sep 15 21:56 |
| gnufreex | Justice has no place in legal system | Sep 15 21:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | if something you do pisses off customers, then you probably shouldnt | Sep 15 21:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Today should have been BIG RELEASE DAY of #joindiaspora - but I do not see anything. Have I missed it? Or is it all just #fail? #diaspora | Sep 15 21:57 | |
| Diablo-D3 | but ye average microsoft customer doesnt give a shit about where or how microsoft pays their taxes as long as its legal | Sep 15 21:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | infact, ye average microsoft customer doesnt even understand corp taxes | Sep 15 21:57 |
| MinceR | the average m$ customer doesn't care about anything | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well no | Sep 15 21:58 |
| MinceR | if they did, they'd be a lot less likely to be m$ customers at all | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | average ms customer is too busy rebooting after bsod | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | depending on the structure of a multinational company, for this example MS, would it be possible for it to go broke and bankrupt evenually, only in the USA? | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: you know what Im going to enjoy someday? | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | being able to say the average microsoft customer runs linux. | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: no. | Sep 15 21:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 15 21:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: its incorporated in the US, and doesn't have "sister' companies in other countries | Sep 15 21:59 |
| gnufreex | [22:57:09] <Diablo-D3> average ms customer is too busy rebooting after bsod | Sep 15 21:59 |
| gnufreex | ROFL... lol | Sep 15 21:59 |
| MinceR | well, since winxp there's this innovative new feature that does the rebooting for them | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: microsoft doesnt really qualify to do that | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | how about if MS restructures, and incorporates overseas? | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: no hard assets | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | they ant | Sep 15 21:59 |
| MinceR | fuck fixing bugs if you can do shitty non-workarounds like that :> | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | *cant | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no legitimate way for them to do it | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | they could try to, say, do it in a small island country | Sep 15 21:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the IRS already said "ahahahahahaha no." | Sep 15 22:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or just buys 100% of the stock of another company in India | Sep 15 22:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | there is only one thing in the universe that is certain: taxes. | Sep 15 22:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Chips_B_Malroy: anyhow, MS wont go bankrupt | Sep 15 22:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats not how they'll die | Sep 15 22:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | they'll just very slowly hemmorage and shrink | Sep 15 22:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | until someone merges with them | Sep 15 22:01 |
| MinceR | you mean someone acquires them? :> | Sep 15 22:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | well not straight out acquire | Sep 15 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I agree, but bankruptcy is not uncertain if Ballmer can hang on for another ten years as DEO | Sep 15 22:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *CEO | Sep 15 22:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | but more like the HP/Compaq merger | Sep 15 22:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And what the heck is zombo.com - that's where the project link on joindiaspora.com points to? | Sep 15 22:02 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, if someone came from the future and told me Oracle and Microsoft make sweet love to each other, I wouldnt be surprised. | Sep 15 22:02 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3 I wouldn't either | Sep 15 22:03 |
| gnufreex | When I saw that larry was first talking against M$ bussines practices | Sep 15 22:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | Oracle is totally playing out of the MS playbook now | Sep 15 22:04 |
| gnufreex | And now that video is broken on you tube. And larry does same as Bill G | Sep 15 22:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dunno what the fuck happened | Sep 15 22:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | they bought sun and all the sudden felt like the big shits on campus or something | Sep 15 22:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | There's another reason the MS stock never reaches a high figure not discussed widely or at all. Every time the stock price goes up, Gates and insiders dump a lot of it, depressing the price as well. | Sep 15 22:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, jesus christ, I could have bought sun | Sep 15 22:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I had like a $50 in my wallet | Sep 15 22:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 15 22:05 |
| gnufreex | Those big mergers are worst thing that can happen to technology. | Sep 15 22:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: or best | Sep 15 22:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | it allows us to congregate all the fucktards in one place | Sep 15 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @jwildeboer it's still today... | Sep 15 22:05 | |
| Diablo-D3 | and then go uboat their titanic | Sep 15 22:05 |
| gnufreex | Compaq buying DEC was catastrophe. Then another one when HP bought Compaq. | Sep 15 22:06 |
| gnufreex | And then Oracle sun | Sep 15 22:06 |
| MinceR | i'm afraid we don't have uboats | Sep 15 22:06 |
| MinceR | and they have patents | Sep 15 22:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Justniffer - tcp packet sniffer | Ubuntu Geek http://ow.ly/2EQZr | Sep 15 22:07 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.thestreet.com/story/10860487/1/microsoft-might-finally-use-its-cash.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEFI | Sep 15 22:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Patent Trolls at Intellectual Ventures and Acacia Are Attacking Again http://ur1.ca/1my9g #USPTO #swpats #trolls | Sep 15 22:09 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | So Microsoft has been buying back stocks for a long time now. But now, they are out of money in the USA, so they have to borrow money in the USA to support more buying back of stocks and higher dividends, in order to get the stock prices up, so that the insiders can dump more stock for higher prices. | Sep 15 22:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | All the insiders are selling, not buying. | Sep 15 22:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/15/will-microsoft-and-nokia-team-up-to-take-on-apple-google/ | Sep 15 22:13 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | I know this has been discussed on this forum to great detail. | Sep 15 22:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I just had to add a couple of points here. First, while I mostly agree with Roy's point that MS has put their man in charge of Nokia, it could turn out the other way around. I say Roy is probably 60% correct on this one. As in theirs a 40% chance that actually Elop hates MS at this point and couldn't wait to get away from them. | Sep 15 22:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Why I think Roy is right. | Sep 15 22:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | from the link: "In rapid succession, the company has ousted its CEO, 30-year Nokia veteran Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo, appointed a new CEO, Stephen Elop, a Microsoft executive from the enterprise software side, and seen the departure of Anssi Vanjoki, head of mobile solutions and one-time CEO candidate" | Sep 15 22:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Anssi Vanjoki had 29 years with Nokia as an employee. He should have got the job, and yet, Nokia went outside the company and hired, Ask why? | Sep 15 22:18 |
| cubevector | MSFT has been hovering around the mid-20s for a long time | Sep 15 22:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Stephen Elop got a top job at Microsoft like many others at Microsoft did. Few actually rise from the ranks at MS and get to the very top ranks. Why is this? Elop owned his own company before joining Microsoft and getting that gravy job. Its only the powerful from outside the company that get those jobs. | Sep 15 22:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Elop was already rich before getting the MS job. | Sep 15 22:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Look at the board of directors at MS, the guy that is the Netflix CEO that got the position | Sep 15 22:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | These big positions are more about power and money deals than promoting actual talented people from within | Sep 15 22:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is why Anssi Vanjoki never had a chance for that position. | Sep 15 22:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And most of the rank and file at Microsoft will never advance very far. | Sep 15 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My #needsleep takes over. Whatever #joindiaspora has promised to deliver will have to wait till tmrw in my timezone. | Sep 15 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Muito bom o filme do Tekken. Vale a pena. | Sep 15 22:24 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Corporations, are creating a new rich class | Sep 15 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Tekken movie is very good. Worth seeing. | Sep 15 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] from the random-second-thoughts series: do honeymoon trips qualify as sex tourism? | Sep 15 22:25 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | These big positions are more of alliances than employments. | Sep 15 22:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which brings us to WP7 | Sep 15 22:30 |
| *_Goblin has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) | Sep 15 22:31 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is WP7=Kin/2 ? | Sep 15 22:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it certainly has combined every failed and failing product known to Microsoft CE + Zune + Silverlight. Would Net be in there too, to run Silverlight? | Sep 15 22:32 |
| cubevector | you would think that the CEO selection process would be logical | Sep 15 22:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | It is, just logical is a different type of logic than we slaves at the bottom is taught how it is | Sep 15 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] sneak peak: http://community.kde.org/Project_Elegance ... hopefully properly announceable in a week or two. | Sep 15 22:34 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | did you see the mock funeral of Iphone, Sympian, and Blackberry by MS? | Sep 15 22:35 |
| cubevector | yeah | Sep 15 22:35 |
| cubevector | it was stupid, like a lot of stuff Microsoft does | Sep 15 22:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The article I seen was one of an MS employee on a motorcycle dressed as Darth Vader for that funeral. And the question the article asked, is why MS did not have Andriod in the funeral. I have that anwser: | Sep 15 22:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "These are not the Droids you are looking for, they can pass, move along." | Sep 15 22:37 |
| MinceR | :D | Sep 15 22:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sorry, best I could come up with. | Sep 15 22:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | *Android | Sep 15 22:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SCO Owes $10,000 to Woman (Pretend Journalist) Who Attacks #Groklaw http://ur1.ca/1myli #novell #smear #bankruptcy | Sep 15 22:39 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Then again, Elop quits MS without a lot of notice, and was not there for a long time, in his favor. | Sep 15 22:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The mock funeral was free advertising for MS | Sep 15 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | well no | Sep 15 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | the funeral was for the iphone | Sep 15 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | if I knew they were holding that | Sep 15 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | I would have showed up | Sep 15 22:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | the one thing google and microsoft can agree over: iphones suck | Sep 15 22:42 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | catchy title for an ariticle: Is WP7 Kin/2? | Sep 15 22:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | use it | Sep 15 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] NYC To Get Wi-Fi In Parks, But It���YH�܈ۛH�Z[�]��[���ܛ����M�Z | Sep 15 22:49 | |
| cubevector | ok, what is that? :) | Sep 15 22:49 |
| cubevector | I'm seeing reverse-field question marks in there | Sep 15 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The new wallpaper of the next Ubuntu release seems to suggest they still try to mimic macos http://nhaines.livejournal.com/55723.html | Sep 15 22:52 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4504 | Sep 15 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Graphics.com: The shared resource for creative design - Convert Microsoft Publisher Documents to Adobe InDesign Format .::. Size~: 19.87 KB | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sep 15 22:53 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Sep 15 22:53 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Markzware's InDesign plugin is designed to provide single-click migration of Publisher documents | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | While you might not encounter it very often, Microsoft Publisher is still very much alive, thanks to its presence within the Microsoft Office suite. It serves a useful purpose as a way to lay out relatively simple documents, primarily destined for consumption by fellow employees. But what if a Publisher document needs to be sent to a service bureau for output? Or perhaps a document needs to be enhanced via the greater | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | capabilities of Adobe InDesign? | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | To the rescue comes Markzware's PUB2ID, an InDesign plugin that can import and convert Publisher 2002 through 2010 files, while preserving the content, as well as the styles and formatting. Items that PUB2ID can convert from Publisher to InDesign include page size, positioning, color models, fonts and styles, text attributes and tables, text flow, layers, text wrap and linked text boxes, as well as providing automatic | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | extraction of images embedded in the Publisher file. Version 3 now works with both InDesign CS4 and CS5. | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | No trial version of the plugin is available but a sample document can be uploaded to the Markzware site for free conversion. PUB2ID for Mac and Windows can be purchased on the Markzware site for $199. | Sep 15 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sorry wrong window, that was for a friend locked into ms products | Sep 15 22:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | who will not consider linux | Sep 15 22:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its very quiet in this channel these days I see | Sep 15 22:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/media/bhr/2010/alert/654/ | Sep 15 23:01 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | buts its ok, now, MS will give them "free" windows to replace the pirated ones. | Sep 15 23:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | damage control | Sep 15 23:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ok, gn | Sep 15 23:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "come together ... riiiight now." http://ur1.ca/1mytn ==> http://ur1.ca/1mytp .. win! | Sep 15 23:05 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Sep 15 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Learning to use #Gnu Global with !Emacs and I'm loving it! | Sep 15 23:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Learning to use !gnu global within !emacs and I'm loving it | Sep 15 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Most Powerful Colors in the World http://ur1.ca/1mxm3 Very nice breakdown | Sep 15 23:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb HDCP key leak is not a hoax | Sep 15 23:19 | |
| Diablo-D3 | [06:14:40] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Most Powerful Colors in the World http://ur1.ca/1mxm3 Very nice breakdown | Sep 15 23:19 |
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| Diablo-D3 | posted that earlier | Sep 15 23:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | :D | Sep 15 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I need to find a way to meter the power consumption of the tinderbox | Sep 15 23:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @tids: very easy to work with #krita (': thx !kde thx !koffice and thx all hard working people from #OpenSource http://ur1.ca/1myt6 | Sep 15 23:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Microsoft's Negligence in Patching (Worst Amongst All Companies) to Blame for #Stuxnet ur1.ca/1my4b #windows #security | Sep 15 23:27 | |
| bruce89 | I found an interesting point | Sep 15 23:28 |
| bruce89 | "Why do we want to give Canonical a free pass for this behavior, while Novell was blasted for the way they developed XGL and Apple was bashed over the Webkit code dumps?" | Sep 15 23:30 |
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| Diablo-D3 | bruce89: we do? | Sep 15 23:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | I blast ubuntu constantly for their mono pushing and involvement in gnome 3 development | Sep 15 23:32 |
| bruce89 | no, this was from osnews | Sep 15 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] ‘Adult Services’ Closed, Craigslist Says http://eff.org/r.5rj | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: The new wallpaper of the next Ubuntu release seems to suggest they still try to mimic macos ur1.ca/1mz0u | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #SCO Owes $10,000 to Woman (Pretend Journalist) Who Attacks #Groklaw http://ur1.ca/1myli #novell #smear #bankruptcy | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Microsoft’s Patent Trolls at Intellectual Ventures and Acacia Are Attacking Again http://ur1.ca/1my9g #USPTO #swpats #trolls | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #Novell Announces More Proprietary Software, Promises It Reduces Lock-in http://ur1.ca/1mxwd #fogcomputing | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Novell’s #SUSE Believed to be Bought by Former Microsoft Executives http://ur1.ca/1mxob | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Datetime class in #php just doesn't make any sense... How do I create a DateTime object that contains 0 in unixtime? | Sep 15 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The MSBBC is advertising the beta of IE9 today, calling it a "launch". Taxpayers actually pay for this? [via @thistleweb ] | Sep 15 23:32 | |
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| bruce89 | I certainly don't mean you're a hype artist | Sep 15 23:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | osnews is 100% bullshit | Sep 15 23:32 |
| bruce89 | oh well, at least the occassionaly comment isn't | Sep 15 23:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | only morons who's opinions dont matter (such as the slashdot/reddit/digg peanut gallery) think ubuntu does no wrong | Sep 15 23:33 |
| bruce89 | it's dangerous to think that things you like do no wrong | Sep 15 23:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Sep 15 23:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | debian largely does no wrong | Sep 15 23:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | the most wrong debian does is pretty much inaction | Sep 15 23:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is why the whole ubuntu shit got out of hand | Sep 15 23:35 |
| bruce89 | the fact is that there's going to be two things; Linux APIs and Ubuntu APIs | Sep 15 23:35 |
| bruce89 | and sooner rather than later Ubuntu is going to be targetted as the sole OS | Sep 15 23:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Sep 15 23:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont have to worry with my software | Sep 15 23:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | it runs on any JVM, even windows. | Sep 15 23:38 |
| bruce89 | heh, if I wrote anything worth talking about, same too | Sep 15 23:38 |
| oiaohm | There is a bug in debian operations as well Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: see my previous comment about inaction | Sep 15 23:38 |
| oiaohm | There are cases in Debian where they backport patches. | Sep 15 23:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: dont bring that up again | Sep 15 23:39 |
| oiaohm | When there should have just replaced the lib because it was ABI compadible. | Sep 15 23:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | that was a one time incident years ago | Sep 15 23:39 |
| oiaohm | Its not a one time incident. | Sep 15 23:39 |
| bruce89 | that's an interesting point about indecision | Sep 15 23:39 |
| bruce89 | I've seen many times the view that "Ubuntu has brought Linux to the forefront of peoples' minds" | Sep 15 23:40 |
| oiaohm | That process error makes the idea of being independ to upstream fine. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:40 |
| bruce89 | that is not the case surely, they've brought Ubuntu to their minds | Sep 15 23:40 |
| oiaohm | That leads to Ubuntu being a hell of a mess. | Sep 15 23:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: no | Sep 15 23:40 |
| oiaohm | It is one of the factors Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was a mistake in the interpretation of the stable branch policy | Sep 15 23:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | it culminated in a bizzaro apache patchset | Sep 15 23:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | this happened years ago | Sep 15 23:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its no longer the policy | Sep 15 23:41 |
| bruce89 | I think that is besides the poinnt | Sep 15 23:41 |
| oiaohm | apache was the worst example. Diablo-D3 but there are still maintainers still doing the wrong thing inside debian. But it has reduced. | Sep 15 23:42 |
| oiaohm | And when did Ubuntu mostly branch off from Debian. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | [23:32] <Diablo-D3> osnews is 100% bullshit | Sep 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Deleted from my feeds | Sep 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Last year | Sep 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Thom ruined it for me far too many times | Sep 15 23:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | bruce89: no, oiaohm keeps bringing it up | Sep 15 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Because it still ongoing Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | bruce89: the policy is now correctly interpreted to prevent this | Sep 15 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: not really | Sep 15 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | only when upstream is absolutely insane does debian maintain large patchsets | Sep 15 23:43 |
| oiaohm | I know from build errors on the stable of debian that turn up with wine from time to time. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi Privacy and Safety Questions Loom Over Federal Program to Track Preschoolers: Open Letter from EFF and ACLU-NC http://eff.org/r.3rh | Sep 15 23:44 | |
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| oiaohm | It does not need to be a large patch set to cause a issue. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:44 |
| oiaohm | Ie large patch set makes it high risk. | Sep 15 23:44 |
| oiaohm | And more likely to go splat in a large way. | Sep 15 23:44 |
| oiaohm | Blocking the large patchsets was a step in the right direction | Sep 15 23:44 |
| oiaohm | But there is more that need to be done to make maintainers run test cases and work with upstream better. | Sep 15 23:45 |
| oiaohm | No matter how much you want to defend it. Debian policy still has a way to go. Diablo-D3 But I will give it heading in the right direction. | Sep 15 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, are you saying distros cant have patches at all? | Sep 15 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | because thats bullshit | Sep 15 23:47 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying distributions cannot have patches. | Sep 15 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | and almost all of debian's patches come from upstream's repos | Sep 15 23:49 |
| oiaohm | Quality control is something that is weak in the process of most distributions. Running to test cases to make sure there patch not nuked some other part is critical. | Sep 15 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | or patches off their bug trackers | Sep 15 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: I agree | Sep 15 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | but | Sep 15 23:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxaria.com/pills/test-con-debian-mint-201009?lang=en | Sep 15 23:49 |
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| Diablo-D3 | any example you're going to come up with involves lack of tests | Sep 15 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | ie, either it doesnt have tests, or it didnt have a test for that specific behavior | Sep 15 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | the famous openssh incident was due to openssh not properly vetting their source. | Sep 15 23:50 |
| oiaohm | Lot could be blocked but running tests. | Sep 15 23:50 |
| oiaohm | Ok some that don't have tests will get threw. | Sep 15 23:50 |
| bruce89 | http://www.osnews.com/thread?441099 | Sep 15 23:50 |
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| oiaohm | there is nothing we can really do about that bar accept it. | Sep 15 23:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] wordpress.com stats do not depend on Flash anymore. That's great. !wp | Sep 15 23:50 | |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: yes | Sep 15 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | packaging is a two way street, though | Sep 15 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | and a lot of upstreams just shit on package maintainers | Sep 15 23:51 |
| oiaohm | what would really impress me is auto system where new .deb/rpm/what ever package format gets uploaded to be include and server runs the testcases before it goes into the main repo. | Sep 15 23:51 |
| oiaohm | So reducing human error and packaging. | Sep 15 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Testing Debian MINT 201009 http://ur1.ca/1mza8 "The distribution contains everything you average desktop user need" | Sep 15 23:52 | |
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| oiaohm | A lot of upstreams lack proper testcase systems as well. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:52 |
| oiaohm | The QA is one of the big devils that needs to be taken on with opensource. | Sep 15 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, if upstream has fucked QA. you cant blame debian | Sep 15 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | or any distro | Sep 15 23:53 |
| bruce89 | "I'm not convinced that Ubuntu is anything more than Debian + codec prompts + a marketing budget" | Sep 15 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | but debian DOES run tests | Sep 15 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | and yes, sometimes, very rarely, they override failures on specific archs | Sep 15 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Really the maintainers in the distrobutions should be out there pushing for QA systems. | Sep 15 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | such as mips or arm when they know its a mips or arm bug | Sep 15 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: they do | Sep 15 23:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | but some shits so goddamned small and little used, tests are overkill | Sep 15 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Problem is what is small today might be big in future. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:55 |
| oiaohm | That is where some of the large items with QA problems get into the systme. | Sep 15 23:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | and when it DOES become big, they welcome patches. | Sep 15 23:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | so quit bitching about it, and go write some tests | Sep 15 23:56 |
| oiaohm | Really most of my recent errors with debian packages ie last 12 months tracked back to maintainer opps moment. | Sep 15 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Ie missed running the tests. | Sep 15 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Human error does happen. | Sep 15 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes I am picky. Diablo-D3 | Sep 15 23:58 |
| bruce89 | still on the openssl thing? | Sep 15 23:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Australian e-tax software unjust: Stallman http://ur1.ca/1mzbq Reasonable coverage from ZD? /me goes washing | Sep 15 23:59 | |
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| oiaohm | bruce89: there have been others. | Sep 15 23:59 |
| bruce89 | I can think of a few in Fedora as well | Sep 15 23:59 |
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