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schestowitz[23:31] <gnufreex> schestowitz: WHat's VM_BwareSep 22 00:02
schestowitzVM BewareSep 22 00:02
gnufreexKewl. Nice idea.Sep 22 00:02
Tekk_bleh, I need to work on something right now or I'll die ><Sep 22 00:02
gnufreexLarry Ellison is setting up benchmarks again. He tested "Unbreakable Linux Kernel"(wich is 2.6.32) against regular RHEL5 kernel which is based on 2.6.18 with lots of backports.Sep 22 00:03
Tekk_my noX day went from "well.....this is easy" to "Oh god when does it end"Sep 22 00:03
gnufreexAnd he claim it is 70% faster.Sep 22 00:03
gnufreexRHEL6 will have 2.6.32 kernelSep 22 00:03
gnufreexHe is setting up Oracle new product against old one of competitor.Sep 22 00:03
Tekk_gnufreex: I don't get the naming, why couldn't they just keep it redhat linux?Sep 22 00:04
Tekk_everyone knew it was enterprise to begin withSep 22 00:04
Tekk_or is it just a bid for more money?Sep 22 00:04
gnufreexTekk_ what do you mean? Red Hat or Oracle?Sep 22 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Censorship of the Internet Takes Center Stage in "Online Infringement" Bill http://eff.org/r.5r3Sep 22 00:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Censorship of the Internet Takes Center Stage in "Online Infringement" Bill | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 22.39 KBSep 22 00:06
Tekk_gnufreex: redhatSep 22 00:11
schestowitz[23:27] <Tekk_> can anyone reccommend terminal email clients?Sep 22 00:12
schestowitzCLI-based only?Sep 22 00:12
gnufreexRed Hat Linux was free edition, they needed new name for paid one. So they rename Red Hat Linux to Fedora and introudced Red Hat Enterpise Linux. TekkSep 22 00:13
Tekk_ah, okaySep 22 00:13
Tekk_schestowitz: yepSep 22 00:13
Tekk_schestowitz: experimenting with not using X for the daySep 22 00:14
schestowitzalpine is not even supported anymoreSep 22 00:14
Tekk_I knowSep 22 00:14
schestowitziirc washU pulled support on it like 2 years agoSep 22 00:14
schestowitzLinus still uses it on fedoraSep 22 00:14
schestowitzI used pine like 10 years agoSep 22 00:15
schestowitzHated itSep 22 00:15
schestowitzThen I started using Netscape MailSep 22 00:16
_Goblinschestowitz: RT bot delayed? My latest dent hasn't shown up....Sep 22 00:22
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Tekk_hey, what's the .nethackrc line for color?Sep 22 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] GMO bacteria used in recycling http://ur1.ca/1q5uwSep 22 00:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes Nice solution for your Robotron problem.Sep 22 00:34
schestowitz_Goblin: should workSep 22 00:34
schestowitzYesterday I noticed one missSep 22 00:34
schestowitzIt it's a reply to someone not on our identica group, then it's left outSep 22 00:35
schestowitzRT all show upSep 22 00:35
_GoblinIve just dented again...Sep 22 00:35
_Goblinthe other missed one was not a reply eitherSep 22 00:36
schestowitzOdd..I could debugSep 22 00:36
schestowitzWe don't do twitter here anymoreSep 22 00:36
_Goblinthis was with Identi.caSep 22 00:36
_Goblinboth of them.Sep 22 00:36
schestowitzAnd some trolls would probably misinterpret me as hating that serviceSep 22 00:36
schestowitzTo try to poison that service againt meSep 22 00:37
schestowitzI'd say that 99% of my dents appear fine here and rarely there's a missSep 22 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So....what to do now...? Listen to an Oggcast....so much choice!!!!Sep 22 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Why on earth neither @kobo nor #WHSmith have the eight chapter of The Dresden Files available?!Sep 22 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera I was taxing trying to keep my ideals and give him his right to "express" himself....I was quite pleased with my unique solution!Sep 22 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera lets see if it works though....Sep 22 00:44
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schestowitz_Goblin: did the RT come though?Sep 22 00:50
schestowitzI see noneSep 22 00:50
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_GoblinMy second dent came through as did my reply to thistleweb....Sep 22 00:54
ThistleWebtwitter has been funny todaySep 22 01:00
ThistleWebstill waiting on 0auth catching up with pinoSep 22 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla Joins Open Invention Network (The Mozilla Blog) http://lwn.net/Articles/406470/rssSep 22 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm..... I see that updates to aptosid are only to be done after killing x or else there are problems. Wish I had read manual earlier !LinuxSep 22 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Joins Open Invention Network (The Mozilla Blog) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.15 KBSep 22 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] There a trick to getting the Atheros AR8132 Ethernet interface working in FreeBSD http://ht.ly/2HPoj I'd like to know if it works ...Sep 22 01:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Just tried GhostBSD on the Lenovo G555. Version 1.0 yields perfect video. Version 1.0.6 won't boot ... I'd love to install from GhostBSDSep 22 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I'm clinging to 2.6.33 with both hands in Fedora 13 - the only guarantee my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 video will continue workingSep 22 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] What further outrage will it take for Larry Ellison's intestine to heroically leap through his neck and strangle his brain?Sep 22 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Marketing and Entryism, the One #Microsoft Way http://ur1.ca/1q6mh Microsoft makes marketing moves in Great Britain...Sep 22 01:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hey Identica peeps, what a good blue colour theme for gnome?Sep 22 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram I like Nodoka, silver / off white with blueSep 22 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @thistleweb: yes that is a good one, I saw !xubuntu 10.10 has a new theme called bluebird, very niceSep 22 02:18
schestowitzWho's awake?Sep 22 02:19
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schestowitzHey, scientesSep 22 02:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Toronto is getting pwned by OttawaSep 22 02:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: I amSep 22 02:32
schestowitzWell, GO TO BED THEN!!  :-) :-)Sep 22 02:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: not yetSep 22 02:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: however good news for my channel :)Sep 22 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @thistleweb: decided on Nodoka Clearlooks with Elementary monochrome icons :)Sep 22 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram I have put nodoka on quite a few installs, usually with nuoveXT icons (LXDE), switched to albatros now for a whileSep 22 02:39
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schestowitzsebsebseb: which one?Sep 22 02:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: #mageia-ukSep 22 02:45
schestowitzOh :-)Sep 22 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @jzb The truth behind Oracle's Enterprise Kernel - the secret ingredient is spin: http://bit.ly/aMEcFSSep 22 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @stickster What further outrage will it take for Larry Ellison's intestine to heroically leap through his neck and strangle his brain?Sep 22 02:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle's "new" kernel for RHEL clone: The real truth  | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 85.69 KBSep 22 02:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah got a few people going there already, and some turning up now as wellSep 22 02:46
schestowitzI'll be idle thereSep 22 02:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: and just been emailing two people, who are interested in doing this as wellSep 22 02:46
sebsebsebschestowitz: well you will chat sometimes in there?Sep 22 02:47
schestowitzaybeSep 22 02:47
schestowitzMaybeSep 22 02:47
schestowitzI used to be in about 12 channelsSep 22 02:47
schestowitzI cut down some months agoSep 22 02:47
sebsebsebyeah I don't like haveing that many channels open at once eitherSep 22 02:47
schestowitzDistractingSep 22 02:47
sebsebsebyeah indeedSep 22 02:48
sebsebsebthey can beSep 22 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @thistleweb: yep, nuoveXT is good, I was using it back in 2005 :), I will check out albatrosSep 22 02:48
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sebsebsebschestowitz: espeasilly channels like #ubuntuSep 22 02:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: messages nearly all the time, you knowSep 22 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @mohanpram albarttos is a dark theme, but for a change, it's actually a practical dark theme, most dark themse aren'tSep 22 02:51
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh yeah you might want to idle in their main channel as wellSep 22 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Halo Coverage (Hype) is Fake, Largely Paid For; #Xbox 60 (Slim) Sells Just 700 Units in Japan in Debut Week http://ur1.ca/1q750Sep 22 02:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Halo Coverage (Hype) is Fake, Largely Paid For; Xbox 360 (Slim) Sells Just 700 Units in Japan in Debut Week | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.04 KBSep 22 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: Terry's final interview with @thisamerwife- Be sure to stick around to the 5:30 mark. http://bit.ly/cp... http://ping.fm/GyuleSep 22 03:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ah there we go, light blueish theme with dark wallpaper!Sep 22 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Exactly! Thought and technical leadership. Well done, Red Hat - http://ur1.ca/1q7ai #fbSep 22 03:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat News | Leading With Red Hat Enterprise Linux .::. Size~: 38.8 KBSep 22 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] finally I can watch #theColony experiment on @DiscoverySEAsia w00t !Sep 22 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Goodbye #Ubuntu, hello !Fedora! http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog/Goodbye-Ubuntu-hello-FedoraSep 22 03:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goodbye Ubuntu, hello Fedora! - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 38.61 KBSep 22 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #KINect Has Problems and It’s Behind the Competition (Buttonless) http://ur1.ca/1q7o0 #xbox360 #xboxSep 22 04:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Stevie Wonder urges #U.N. bring light to the blind http://eff.org/r.2r4Sep 22 04:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No Sex and No 'Gay' on Microsoft #Xbox360 http://techrights.org/2010/09/21/microsoft-apologises-to-fort-gay/Sep 22 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Kissinger Can Get a Nobel Peace Prize, Then Microsoft’s Inside-Trader Bach Can Also be “Honoured” http://ur1.ca/1q7xfSep 22 04:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If Kissinger Can Get a Nobel Peace Prize, Then Microsofts Inside-Trader Bach Can Also be “Honoured” | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.6 KBSep 22 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz I still haven't figured out why President Obama got a Nobel prize exactly. Other than for not being President Bush I mean.Sep 22 04:36
schestowitzjono: just been to http://www.severedfifth.com for first time in months. the theme looks fantasticSep 22 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm I thought it was sort of pre-emptive,so to speak. "Here, have this... now prove you deserved it"Sep 22 04:43
jonoschestowitz thanks!Sep 22 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Dave Morin Argues Information Is More Valuable When You Pay For It. He’s Wrong. - http://tcrn.ch/bmRpi4Sep 22 04:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz That's a take on it I hadn't considered. And it makes sense, too. That's the scariest part.Sep 22 04:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Dave Morin Argues Information Is More Valuable When You Pay For It. Hes Wrong.   .::. Size~: 50.28 KBSep 22 04:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @glynmoody Dave Morin Argues Information Is More Valuable When You Pay For It. He’s Wrong. - http://tcrn.ch/bmRpi4Sep 22 04:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slatedroid community firmware brings the £85 Android tablet to life http://ur1.ca/1q82i£85-android-tablet-lifeSep 22 04:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Dave Morin Argues Information Is More Valuable When You Pay For It. Hes Wrong.   .::. Size~: 50.72 KBSep 22 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RP @glynmoody @newsbrooke idea coming out of #ial2010: More training for judges & legislators needed on Internet law. can't be left to MsoftSep 22 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz I won't link behind paywalls. I might paraphrase something important, but certainly not send 'em any traffic. !FreeCultureSep 22 04:59
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/sep/21/bus-driver-kindle-at-wheelSep 22 05:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Our awesome community comes through for the Severed Fifth PA! http://is.gd/fmp0m #severedfifthSep 22 05:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Our New PA  |  Severed Fifth .::. Size~: 20.29 KBSep 22 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] yeah, right! I need to read and agree to all of this to write a comment? http://www.colbertnation.com/help/contentsubmission !eff #failSep 22 05:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel 2.13 X.Org Driver Release Candidate: With Mesa 7.9 on the way, Intel has just released the xf86-video-intel ... http://bit.ly/cQb5ofSep 22 05:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Intel 2.13 X.Org Driver Release Candidate .::. Size~: 16.83 KBSep 22 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ A-HA by Crying In The Rain from Best Of The Past vol. II [JuK]Sep 22 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ Mr. Vain by Culture Beat from [JuK]Sep 22 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ Apologize - www.rsmp3.com by De-Grees Vs. The Real Booty Babes from Superpop Vol. 2 Cd 1 - www.rsmp3.com [JuK]Sep 22 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A fascinating look at faith schools admission policy, and how hypocrisy rules http://bit.ly/bzeyaQ#Sep 22 06:08
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:  A rather unchristian school admissions policy? | Education | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 181.92 KBSep 22 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ Aaliyah - Try again by from [JuK]Sep 22 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ Back Street Boys - I Want it that way by from [JuK]Sep 22 06:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bruceperens that's really nice: http://perens.com/blog/d/2010/9/14/36/ congrats! !agpl !gnuSep 22 06:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Deleted Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn Accounts! .::. Size~: 3.17 KBSep 22 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Bloody hell...they are going to raise the tuition again!Sep 22 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ Sunday Morning by Bolshoi from [JuK]Sep 22 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ᐅ It's My Life (live) by Bon Jovi from [JuK]Sep 22 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Do you ever have a bad dio day? Join in the discussion - http://is.gd/fmudT #severedfifth #dioSep 22 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Register today for the Think Tank on Open Source Marketing Sessions! http://ur1.ca/1m0qx !owfSep 22 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] How can I use !identica's web interface shortening feature?Sep 22 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supreme Court could take its first RIAA file-sharing case - http://bit.ly/a7ogJn could be interesting #scotus #sharingSep 22 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] s/here/hearSep 22 07:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Denglish - http://bit.ly/d3K8w2 recht cool #language #germanSep 22 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Ubuntu application review process http://lwn.net/Articles/406487/rssSep 22 08:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Ubuntu application review process [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.34 KBSep 22 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Facebook open sources live MySQL makeover - http://bit.ly/buOUgu more free software love from the #Facebook team #bsd #mysqlSep 22 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Wants You To Tell Them Which Books Are Public Domain - http://bit.ly/cL8oGx so let's tell 'em #google #publicdomainSep 22 08:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moral Rights, Endowment Effects, and Things in Copyright - http://bit.ly/9zfxDs interesting if a little obscure #copyrightSep 22 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] This is why !Oracle is just getting more evil and disrespectful to the !FOSS community !Linux !RedHat http://tiny.cc/ncw9n !FedoraSep 22 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Beer distributors oppose pot legalization - http://bit.ly/cqEGI9 ah, the sweet smell of hypocrisy #alcohol #marijuanaSep 22 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle's "new" kernel for RHEL clone: The real truth  | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 84.3 KBSep 22 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Under 1% of EU patents account for close to 50% of overall patent value - http://bit.ly/bE0UYg "vast majority of patents worth very little"Sep 22 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Belgian political party Ecolo moving to open source, Ubuntu http://goo.gl/bIATSep 22 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: < 1% of EU patents account for ~ 50%/overall patent value - http://bit.ly/bE0UYg "vast majority of patents worth very little"Sep 22 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @charlesschulz: Register today for the Think Tank on Open Source Marketing Sessions! http://ur1.ca/1m0qx < yeah, even if I'm in there ;-)Sep 22 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] The #PIRACY Daily is out! http://ur1.ca/1qd6h Top stories by @TheJerrys @rufioho @Priscillia_C @Shocklee @manatrue !p !pi4li #ppiSep 22 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Anthropology of hackers http://is.gd/fmB5T #mustread (The Atlantic)Sep 22 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Vince cable states the truth when he says capitalism kills competion where it can and for this is attacked by the employers federation.Sep 22 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Qt Labs Blog !Qt 4.7.0 now available - After many months of designing, coding, reviewing, testing and documenting… http://ht.ly/1965mV !kdeSep 22 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New 4chan DDoS Targets Hated Anti-Piracy Law Firm - http://bit.ly/caXuBn yes, that would be ACS:Law #ddos #acslawSep 22 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Brazil, “File Sharing Is Cool!” - http://bit.ly/d0fqXl useful background and links #brazil #copyright #sharingSep 22 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NHS IT manager guilty of snooping on patient records - http://bit.ly/9nb09x what a surprise; not #nhs #privacy #securitySep 22 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A run on your cloud? - http://bit.ly/btW7PM excellent analysis of domino effect for collapsing clouds... #cloudcomputingSep 22 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tibetan blogosphere is vibrant and empowering - http://bit.ly/aBRfEp reasons to be cheerful #tibet #blogs (via @OpenNet)Sep 22 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jordan Mantha: edubuntu.org makeover http://goo.gl/UuP3Sep 22 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Let's make every day One Web Day! #onewebdaySep 22 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Watching #Eben_Moglen's talk at #Linuxcon2010. http://ur1.ca/1qetr Remarkable as usual! !gnu !lpSep 22 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @pookito Yes check here: http://status.net/android I searched for StatusNet on the marketSep 22 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: PDFMod (for quick an easy manipulation of PDFs) http://goo.gl/6yURSep 22 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jerezim *1 HOUR LEFT* to take 5min to help reject the #GalloReport #PrivateCopyrightPolice repression http://ur1.ca/0juns pls RT!Sep 22 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody @jerezim *1 HOUR LEFT* to take 5min to help reject the #GalloReport #PrivateCopyrightPolice repression http://ur1.ca/0juns -RT!Sep 22 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Actually managed to speak with MEP, Syed Kamall, about #Gallo; even more amazing, he seemed concerned about my points. Kudos to him...Sep 22 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will the Internet of Things Be Open or Closed? - http://bit.ly/aFpTSN crucially important question for fufture #internetofthingsSep 22 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @glynmoody: Will the Internet of Things Be Open or Closed? http://bit.ly/aFpTSN crucially important question for fufture #internetofthingsSep 22 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Recorded the first in a series of screencastsSep 22 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ok. I've just cleaned out !Gwibber daily cache and config (cos it doesn't like upgrading lately) #Buzz and #Facebook still don't workSep 22 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Qt 4.7.0 now available http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/09/21/qt-4-7-0-now-available/ Very important Nokia projectSep 22 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Friendfeed seems to work fine in !Gwibber now and I'm going to try #Pingfm in less than a minute from nowSep 22 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spoke with Arleen McCarthy's assistant about Labour Party's line on #Gallo: they want criminal sanctions taken out, at least, which is goodSep 22 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh Twitter got Hacked. Message to all Twitter users. Head directly to http://identi.ca for REAL safety!Sep 22 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Google denies a third of UK govt takedown requests http://tinyurl.com/34ou8qv !uk !government !google !censorshipSep 22 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK so Pingfm still doesn't work with !gwibberSep 22 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Web 2.0 stopped the Twitter worm taking over the service - http://bit.ly/9RkD7X good point about advantages of offering #APIs #twitterSep 22 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] On the plus side, a fresh install of !gwibber 2.33.0 has sorted out #Friendfeed and most of the speed issues. It's actually quite fast nowSep 22 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Facebook !opensource MySQL utility - The H - http://goo.gl/QagKSep 22 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] An Open Letter to You and Alex Russell: a pipe-dream http://goo.gl/uUOH #opensourceSep 22 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mapping Stereotypes http://alphadesigner.com/project-mapping-stereotypes.html brilliantSep 22 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I see a very empty #opensource site there @openbasix » http://goo.gl/sN6n « come on guys get some content up!Sep 22 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is the 500-C is the first !Linux based DVB Receiver? http://goo.gl/v8In « I'm sure I heard of others?Sep 22 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Video Explains What #ACTA Means http://techrights.org/2010/09/22/acta-primer/ #playoggSep 22 11:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jerezim #GalloReport Original resolution of M. Gallo - FINAL VOTE: FOR: 328 AGAINST: 245. #FAIL >the fight goes onSep 22 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] rt @mgeist Access Copyright launches new !C32 advocacy site: says fair dealing wipe out 100s of millions of $ http://ur1.ca/1q4hy !canadaSep 22 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner RT @eff ACTA PROPOSED AGENDA 11th Round of Negotiations 23 September thru 1 October 2010 Tokyo http://eff.org/r.3rzSep 22 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @eff Stevie Wonder urges #U.N. bring light to the blind http://eff.org/r.2r4 > Stevie Wonder vs #WIPO #intellectualmonopolySep 22 12:16
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schestowitzBeen quiet recently... I'll post some daily linksSep 22 12:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @quimgil Qt 4.7 released starring QML. Already in MeeGo 1.1! Nice to see the people who made this happen: http://bit.ly/9TKwhsSep 22 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Awesome and inspiring; about design http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7987612343225687713#Sep 22 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What is a cool DJ application for !Fedora ?Sep 22 13:04
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twitterheh, looks like a Vista screenshot http://mashable.com/2010/09/21/twitter-mouseover-bug/Sep 22 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter Mouseover Security Flaw Affecting Thousands of Users [WARNING] .::. Size~: 113.14 KBSep 22 13:09
twitterdaily rotten has, ""Malicious code is being inserted into hundreds of Twitter feeds. If your mouse simply passes over the link, it triggers a JavaScript code which automatically retweets the link to all of your followers... Among the afflicted: the wife of a former British Prime Minister, whose Twitter feed now redirects users to a Japanese porn site."Sep 22 13:10
twittermashables has nasty java script of their own.Sep 22 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/9/2010: !Linux 2.6.36 RC5, #Gallo Threat http://techrights.org/2010/09/22/gallo-threat/Sep 22 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 7 of the Best Free #Linux Disk Usage Analyzers - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site http://ping.fm/dmo1USep 22 13:23
twitterSarkozy ... nothing but bad newsSep 22 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Same here, as my train to #lk2010 leaves in an hour RT: @LaF0rge Getting prepared for a trip to Nuremberg, going to speak at #linux kongressSep 22 13:24
twitterall over the news, let's look for Windows.  http://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+mouseover+exploit&hl=en&prmd=n&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=S_WZTIeSM8PflgeTouko&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB0QqAIwAASep 22 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: twitter mouseover exploit - Google Search .::. Size~: 53.09 KBSep 22 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Software Freedom Day 2010 – Shantou chapter http://ping.fm/iVZdTSep 22 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] atomicpoet » Blog Archive » Why paying for free software is worth it http://ping.fm/Wru1TSep 22 13:26
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twitterI see that Roy got it in his links http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/sep/21/twitter-hack-explained-xss-javascriptSep 22 13:27
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schestowitzHiSep 22 13:28
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schestowitzI don't use twitter web UISep 22 13:28
schestowitzI post to identicaSep 22 13:28
schestowitz[13:09] <twitter> heh, looks like a Vista screenshotSep 22 13:29
schestowitzVista is not an OSSep 22 13:29
schestowitzit's aeroSep 22 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Disk partitioning guide for Linux Mint Debian — LinuxBSDos.com http://ping.fm/9ES5kSep 22 13:29
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twitteraero, in it's default form, has got to be the ugliest GUI ever made.Sep 22 13:31
schestowitzGPU.. for windowSep 22 13:31
schestowitzI've converted some people to Linux recentlySep 22 13:31
schestowitzSo I fell behind wrt newsSep 22 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Paying attention: when a (kind of) hacker meets sociologists | Stop! http://ping.fm/c8kMJSep 22 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Goodbye #Ubuntu, hello #Fedora! - #Linux Magazine Online [old] http://ping.fm/Ae4QdSep 22 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Clearing the FUD around #Ubuntu Application Review Process | Shantanu's Technophilic Musings http://ping.fm/fWoBBSep 22 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner it talks about /gratis/ "Free", not libreSep 22 13:34
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twitter"executable content (the onMouseOver="stuff" bit) has ended up in the page source code. Not knowing any better, the browser runs this code. Because it's running in the user's browser, it can do anything the user does; most variations used this power to re-post the content, which is why it spread like a virus."Sep 22 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner Goodbye #Ubuntu, hello #Fedora! - #Linux Magazine Online [old] http://ping.fm/Ae4QdSep 22 13:36
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twitterI know that there are big differences between what IE and other browsers allow to happen and that Windows has deep flaws for other browsers too, but I don't know the specifics of mouse over events.  I imagine this is mostly a Windows problem but I can't prove it.Sep 22 13:36
twitteryetSep 22 13:36
twitterThere are lots and lots of belated stories about the problem, I wish that more journalist would call out windows!Sep 22 13:37
schestowitzWindows only?Sep 22 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Best Email Server Features http://ping.fm/UVVa2Sep 22 13:39
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oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HP-Photosmart-eStation-AllinOne/?kc=rss  This does not bode well for Palm tech HP aquired.Sep 22 13:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz You raise a good point. I will do my best to clarify when a post using "free" isn't about FLOSSSep 22 13:43
twitterI can't say so but I imagine worse things can happen in W32 land -> schestowitz: Windows only?Sep 22 13:43
twitterNone of the stories are reporting this as another typical Windows mess, but it looks like that to me.Sep 22 13:44
twitterNot being a Twitter user, I can't fire up Iceweasel of Konqueror to try it out.Sep 22 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell Does Not Want !GNU !Linux Choices http://ur1.ca/1qm5v #Novell #hypocrisy #diversity #kernel #oracleSep 22 13:44
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schestowitztwitter: it's xssSep 22 13:45
twitterHaving the original Rainbow tweet work would not be good proof that your browser will retweet net nasties to all 1.1 million of your followers like Mrs. Bronw seems to have doneSep 22 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Gary Hamel (@profhamel): The Facebook generation vs. the Fortune 500--12 work-relevant characteristics of online life. http://bit.ly/cSqzDYSep 22 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz But I thought some of the points were universal. It made me think of donating to FLOSS projects I benefit fromSep 22 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Senior UK Judge Warns of End To File-Sharing Cash Demands - http://bit.ly/dA3x6G potentially important development #deact #ukSep 22 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] No, you can't have my password http://ping.fm/YKzoLSep 22 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Senior Judge Warns of End To File-Sharing Cash Demands | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 40.14 KBSep 22 13:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, you can't have my password - Noodles' Emptiness .::. Size~: 30.08 KBSep 22 13:48
twitterI imagine spammers injecting the usual Active X into the on mouseover to p0wn people, that is not something that would work on gnu/linuxSep 22 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody Senior UK Judge Warns of End To File-Sharing Cash Demands - http://bit.ly/dA3x6G potentially important development #deact #ukSep 22 13:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Senior Judge Warns of End To File-Sharing Cash Demands | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 40.09 KBSep 22 13:49
twitterha ha, the rainbow tweet does not work in akregator nor does the suspended redirect http://twitter.com/rainbowtwtrSep 22 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Charlie Smotherman: Alternative to UbuntuOne’s Music Streaming Solution http://ping.fm/6WLQW #UbuntuOneSep 22 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alternative to Ubuntu Ones Music Streaming Solution « Ampaches Blog .::. Size~: 15.77 KBSep 22 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Inkscape: Inkscape in a computer orientation class http://ping.fm/3f8MJSep 22 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 17-year-old Australian Boy, Japanese Developer Take Blame for Twitter Meltdown - http://bit.ly/a4UxVC no, *I* am Spartacus #twitter #malwareSep 22 13:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inkscape. Draw Freely. .::. Size~: 17.8 KBSep 22 13:53
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twitterI'm seeing a lot of "nothing to see here" and "everything's fixed, don't worry" stories but I think it's going to get ugly.Sep 22 13:55
twitterpeople also take credit for it in that Guardian article from the 14th, like this guy http://twitter.com/judofyr/Sep 22 13:56
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twitteroh yeah, same stuff in Mashables as in the Guardian last week.Sep 22 13:57
twitterMashables, slow on the uptake.Sep 22 13:57
twitterI think it is fair to say that IE users and Windows users in general have special security problems to worry about from this attack that gnu/linux users don't have to worry about.Sep 22 13:59
twitterI can't say for sure that a porn retweet can't be crafted for Konqueror or Iceweasel.  Who would know something like that?Sep 22 14:00
twitter" Graham Cluley of computer security firm Sophos said that in Sarah Brown's case her Twitter page tried to redirect visitors to a porn site in Japan."  http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j9ffiA56RI702eTc3MpzbTkZmmzgSep 22 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: Twitter apologizes after hackers exploit security flaw .::. Size~: 11.63 KBSep 22 14:01
twitterhow very embarrASSingSep 22 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP unveils printer with detachable Android tablet http://ur1.ca/1qmpw Not #WebOS ?Sep 22 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP unveils printer with detachable Android tablet - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 57.51 KBSep 22 14:03
twitter" Those hit by the bug included Sarah Brown, the wife of the former British prime minister who has over 1.1 million followers on Twitter, and White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, who has 97,000 followers."My Twitter went haywire," Gibbs wrote on @presssec. "Sep 22 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] HP unveils printer with detachable #Android tablet http://ur1.ca/1qmpw Not #WebOS ? /by @schestowitzSep 22 14:04
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schestowitzSep 22 14:05
schestowitz[13:45] <twitter> Having the original Rainbow tweet work would not be good proof that your browser will retweet net nasties to all 1.1 million of your followers like Mrs. Bronw seems to have doneSep 22 14:05
schestowitzheh. Some have weak passwords, tooSep 22 14:05
twitterI'm trying to find someone calling out Windows but I don't get much love from "twitter mouseover exploit Windows" or same with Microsoft.Sep 22 14:06
twitterOne thing that comes up in both is a puff piece from USA Today about IE9 vaporware's really cool moueover effects.Sep 22 14:07
twitterhmmmmSep 22 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Novell Does Not Want #GNU #Linux Choices http://ur1.ca/1qm5v #Novell #hypocrisy #diversity #kernel #oracle /by @schestowitzSep 22 14:08
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twitterLOL, " Cool graphics. To check out the graphical pyrotechnics in IE9, take a look at the HTML5 website for the band The Killers. As you mouse over the site a full 360 degrees, the landscape goes from night to day and back. You can drag your mouse to make a video screen, interactive tour bus and gift shop come alive. Very cool. On the security front, a new download manager checks to make sure fetched files are virus-free and from a reliablSep 22 14:09
twitterHe uses IE for banking.Sep 22 14:09
twitter"Microsoft for the most part did what it had to do to make IE9 a front-line browser again."  Is that like over the top front line?Sep 22 14:10
*schestowitz reads upSep 22 14:11
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rainbowtwtr --> http://twitter.com/suspendedSep 22 14:11
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twitterrightSep 22 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Yanjun Lou created a JTAG pcb for use with the !milkymistSep 22 14:13
twitterIt makes me so sad when cool Windows only web effects don't work on my gnu/linux system.Sep 22 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] !lca2011 miniconf explores Open Source contributions to problem of developing parallel software http://cli.gs/lca2011progtuesSep 22 14:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Preview Page - http://lca2011.linux.org.au/programme/schedule/tuesday .::. Size~: 6.49 KBSep 22 14:14
twitterARRRRgh!  apologist BS is self reinforcing!  Check out the fuzzy reasoning in CNET, " The fast-spreading exploits proved two things: Twitter is undoubtedly now a mainstream service, and it's joined the ranks of big-time tech companies as a target for hackers."   "http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20017173-245.htmlSep 22 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter: The new stage for hacker hijinks | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 87.79 KBSep 22 14:16
twitterThe popularity myth shields browsers and platforms from further examination!Sep 22 14:16
schestowitz[13:55] <twitter> I'm seeing a lot of "nothing to see here" and "everything's fixed, don't worry" stories but I think it's going to get ugly.Sep 22 14:17
schestowitzyupSep 22 14:17
schestowitzPraises to TwitterSep 22 14:17
schestowitz"Well done on quick response etc.'Sep 22 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] The real truth about #Oracle 's "new" kernel: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/oracles-new-kernel-rhel-clone-real-truth !linuxSep 22 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] just installed our new Samsung LED TV ;-)Sep 22 14:19
twitterWell, it's not a Twitter problem, its a browser/OS problem.Sep 22 14:20
twitterThat's the problem with all reporting, they don't get to the root cause, not even the detailed and early article from the Guardian.Sep 22 14:21
oiaohmReally its both.Sep 22 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To avoid atrocious bugs in Twitter, should they liberate the code for audit by the huge userbase, like identi.ca?Sep 22 14:21
twitterNo, it's not both because any website can do the same thing to any messaging service.Sep 22 14:21
twitterIf the OS is dumb enough to let it happen.Sep 22 14:21
schestowitz[14:00] <twitter> I can't say for sure that a porn retweet can't be crafted for Konqueror or Iceweasel.  Who would know something like that?Sep 22 14:23
schestowitzI think it's a browser/server side bugSep 22 14:23
twitterWould Firefox, for example, let a mouse over send mail via "mail" or "kmai" commands to everyone in my contacts list?Sep 22 14:23
twitterthat should read "kmail"Sep 22 14:23
oiaohmIe Twitter could have rejected IE users.Sep 22 14:24
twitterthat might have caused less embarrassment than having Sara Brown redirect 1.1 million people to porn sites.Sep 22 14:26
schestowitz[14:09] <twitter> He uses IE for banking.Sep 22 14:26
schestowitzMy dad uses Linux for bankingSep 22 14:26
schestowitzMost banks stopped the MSIE-only idiocy ages agoSep 22 14:27
twitterbanks use Linux for banking, we hope.Sep 22 14:27
schestowitz[14:21] <oiaohm> Really its both.Sep 22 14:28
schestowitzyeah, oiaohm beat me to itSep 22 14:28
oiaohmThere are a few banks here where you cannot login with IE.Sep 22 14:28
oiaohmInstead you get a offer of other browsers to useSep 22 14:29
schestowitz[14:24] <oiaohm> Ie Twitter could have rejected IE users.Sep 22 14:29
oiaohmAnd free anti-virus linksSep 22 14:29
schestowitzWas it IE-only flaw?Sep 22 14:29
schestowitzI think it boils down to itSep 22 14:29
twitterYeah, but what banks actually count money with Windows?  I know many in the US are dumb enough to have it on their employee's desktop.Sep 22 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad does this TV have Linux in it?Sep 22 14:29
schestowitzOr rather, was it crafted to exploit IE and _could not_ be made to do the same with FF on UNIX/LInux?Sep 22 14:30
schestowitzI know about FF on WinSep 22 14:30
twitterIE/Windows only  is the correct question -> schestowitz: Was it IE-only flaw?Sep 22 14:30
schestowitzRepeating the same design problems... that's where most of FF's 'holes' come from AFAIKSep 22 14:30
schestowitz[14:27] <twitter> banks use Linux for banking, we hope.Sep 22 14:30
schestowitzSolaris a lotSep 22 14:30
schestowitzBut they move to Red HatSep 22 14:30
schestowitzWhose value is surging nowSep 22 14:30
schestowitz[14:28] <oiaohm> There are a few banks here where you cannot login with IE.Sep 22 14:31
schestowitzNames?Sep 22 14:31
schestowitzURL?Sep 22 14:31
twitterRed hat must be thanking Oracle right about now.Sep 22 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What's in an analogy? - http://bit.ly/dhlBsG useful historical background to why intellectual property isn't #intellectualmonopoliesSep 22 14:31
schestowitzI'd like to show this, to praise those who do this... or suggest Live CDs for accessSep 22 14:31
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schestowitztwitter: not reallySep 22 14:32
schestowitzJava, OOo...Sep 22 14:32
schestowitzOralce is not a good stewardSep 22 14:32
schestowitzOK, so....Sep 22 14:32
schestowitzoiaohm: are there "No IE" banks?Sep 22 14:32
twitterRight, but the death of Solaris will do Red Hat a lot of good.Sep 22 14:32
schestowitzAnd also, any evidence that twitter was only dangerous to win/ie users?Sep 22 14:32
schestowitzor win/other browsers?Sep 22 14:33
twitterI don't like that they have done that kind of damage, but non free code dies by design.Sep 22 14:33
oiaohmSome of the smaller Australian banks.  schestowitzSep 22 14:33
schestowitznames?Sep 22 14:33
schestowitzI need examplesSep 22 14:33
schestowitzIf that exists, it's a major article to doSep 22 14:34
twitterI can't point to evidence about "only" but I know that IE has special problems.Sep 22 14:34
twitterKorea had a nasty Active X addiction until recently, I would not be surprised if many banks there were still IE only.Sep 22 14:35
twitterIt was by legislative fiat, use this security mechanism.  oh dear.Sep 22 14:35
twitterI remember reading that the Korean government finally liberated Koreans from that kind of security.Sep 22 14:36
twitterI suppose it would be good enough to prove that the rapidly spreading and embarrassing Twitter worms were Windows only.Sep 22 14:37
twitterThe best way to do that is to find examples of them and view them from FF and other browsers in gnu/linux to see which of them spam your friends.  :)Sep 22 14:37
twitterGot links to them?Sep 22 14:37
oiaohmBugger.  One that was Firefox only is now IE 8 allowing.Sep 22 14:38
twitterThat's not something I can test because I don't have a Twitter account.  Have fun.Sep 22 14:39
twitterI have to run now, later!Sep 22 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening up Computer Studies in the UK - http://bit.ly/dnNJc0 redeeming the disgrace that is UK IT teaching #education #royalsocietySep 22 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Why does GMail IMAP seem really slow this morningSep 22 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] skysports.com !football RSS feed regularly goes AWOL for sometime and then mysteriously comes back up. Been happening last few years. !mufcSep 22 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Xerox joins HP in printing by email • The Register http://bit.ly/akZ0vuSep 22 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook open sources MySQL fast indexer • The Register http://bit.ly/dq2oZvSep 22 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Watching a machine I put #PCLinuxOS on for use by a child, I realise that kids just need an OS with Flash for FB games. PCLOS comes /w FlashSep 22 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] It's 2010 & Linux still can't detect cdrom removal (w/o a GUI anyway): http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/12/31Sep 22 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It seems to make little sense to let children use Windows. Unlike Linux, it leaves them handling technical stuff, malware, and no appsSep 22 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A KVM bug that gave virtual guests the incorrect time has been fixed: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/18/382Sep 22 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Historic Russian seedbank in danger http://ur1.ca/1qnvzSep 22 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon So you want to make it louder? Come get hard, low and deep with the Laoban Soundsystem crew in !Beijing http://bit.ly/dDnrFiSep 22 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan “Montreal Startup Tour 3: Plateau (part 2) w/ Evan Prodromou” — http://www.mtlnewtech.com/?p=502 #montrealSep 22 15:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman calls for internet tax to combat piracy http://ur1.ca/1qo0f Bad headline, could be phrased betterSep 22 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bristol council set to embrace open source - http://bit.ly/ctgCfl nice (via @Mark_Antony) #opensource #ukSep 22 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Free and Illegal advertising for non free PDF readers (#adobe) http://is.gd/fn59h !fsfeSep 22 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Radical innovation needed for GNU/Linux distributions: http://ur1.ca/1qo3f !linux !mandriva !mageia !opensuseSep 22 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A knock on Betjeman's door - http://bit.ly/9pwiYY brilliant encapsulation of the sheer lunacy of the #TwitterJokeTrialSep 22 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It’s official: Carrier Pigeons are faster than rural Internet v @sjvn falling for Africa-inspired (2008) PR stunt?Sep 22 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Damn I hate flash...why is it so freaking buggy!Sep 22 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody in Bristol it's the 'neo' 'open source', with Windows and Office still in tact. Seems like PR...Sep 22 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz every Samsung is likely to run on their own !ARM processors, so might also be Linux. At least no !SamyGo for my model yetSep 22 16:04
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/crosbie/statuses/25218130246 "@schestowitz If Stallman feels people should be free to share, it's a volte-face to suggest they should be forced to pay for such freedom."Sep 22 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Video: Watch Flash Hand HTML5 a Beating on Mobiles (Webmonkey) http://bit.ly/doRY14Sep 22 16:08
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/crosbie/statuses/25217861403 "@schestowitz Queen Anne granted #copyright so why should those so privileged be compensated by tax for restoration of the public's liberty?"Sep 22 16:08
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schestowitzExactly. No argument hereSep 22 16:08
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/dmacvicar/statuses/25214587924 "@schestowitz you spread proprietary software among children? #hypocrisy #boycottboy"Sep 22 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @gbraad Samsung pays Microsoft for !LinuxSep 22 16:09
schestowitzTrolled by Novell for giving someone Linux with Flash on itSep 22 16:09
schestowitzGiving young people the ability to run Flash _on Linux_ if they demand it is not against my principles. Better than Windows.Sep 22 16:10
amarsh04I also noted that Debian made an exception to their Squeeze freeze so as to include gnash 0.8.8 (which works fine for me playing youtube clips)Sep 22 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Da yanf fang road at night, mid-autumn http://ur1.ca/1qodnSep 22 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Review of @rachelbotsman's new book What's Mine Is Yours on collaborative consumption. http://bit.ly/aANQ93 cc: @zipcar @airbnb @freecycleSep 22 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Tough choices http://ur1.ca/1qohuSep 22 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @joabj that's like saying that it's faster to open/parse binary file than XML. Should we settle for binaries only?Sep 22 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @h_ingo @sjvn: Oracle Growth Plans Worry Rivals and Customers http://is.gd/fn38E > heading to $100bn t/over - should've charged more ;-)Sep 22 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What about Oracle's Linux kernel ? Will it be added to the usptream ? What could happen ? Any ideas ? Any thoughts ?Sep 22 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. to escalate War on Piracy at domain name level - http://bit.ly/beXCA1 more analysis of a v. bad idea #piracy #censorship #usSep 22 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft announces quarterly dividend and says its board has authorized up to $6 billion in debt."Sep 22 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So Mark Shuttleworth was right about Oracle 3 years agoSep 22 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: LOL, what did he say about Oracle?Sep 22 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wondering if the borders ebook applet for android will continue to work in singapore.Sep 22 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Portable, rapid DNA analysis tech developed - http://bit.ly/deMawu next: ID cards holding your completely genome #privacy #dnaSep 22 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @czajkowski Ubuntu open week is nearly upon us @castrojo is looking for people to present talks http://tinyurl.com/yd5yxk #ubuntu #lo ...Sep 22 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] At 11am Pac / 2pm Eastern / 6pm UTC I am doing my weekly Ubuntu / community Q+A videocast - join live at http://is.gd/eDacF #ubuntuSep 22 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Great article on the HDCP master key leak and the way the industry view the world http://bbc.in/c0UYM4Sep 22 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Not surprised #Mozilla joined #OIN (who doesn't want royalty-free #swpats ?), but #disturbing they wanna do program work w/ pro-patent OIN.Sep 22 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] goto http://google.com search for "suresh kalmadi" what do you think google suggests "suresh kalmadi corruption" http://ur1.ca/1qp7mSep 22 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Are ad-dependent businesses truly viable? Answer: a strong maybe. http://shorl.com/drydugraprujanuSep 22 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Java Creator James Gosling: Why I Quit Oracle - http://bit.ly/cZkmTL how *not* to manage senior people #oracle #java (via @caostheory)Sep 22 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] sharing files over #UPnP / #DLNA to the #Samsung TV... and using the #N810 as a universal remote (using mediastreamer). ;-)Sep 22 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] looking for a new 20-21'' #monitor for my everyday #coding@home. Any suggestions as to the best size/ratio/brand based on your experience?Sep 22 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Found a reason to use !gnome session, my father needed quick access to the his email.Sep 22 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Smartphones Begin to Replace Hotel Keycards - http://rww.to/9rV0db oh look, here comes the future #smartphones #hotelsSep 22 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] In an hour I videocast it up a notch with an Ubuntu/community Q+A - be there or be...well not there - http://is.gd/eDacF #ubuntuSep 22 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] List of schools using !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/B36JSep 22 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @glynmoody,Given #Google's resources, it's somewhat bullshit that primary solution to this problem is crowd-sourcing. Should be last resort.Sep 22 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oracle's new kernel: Vaporware... ur1.ca/1q4bzSep 22 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @carlopiana long hair at the front and back then as a distinguishing factor between the sexesSep 22 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] At CiviCRM training in Seattle, learning how to improve our use of it at the !fsf.Sep 22 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] In an hour I am doing a live Severed Fifth video update - new music, latest happening and more - be there! http://is.gd/fnn7B #severedfifthSep 22 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] In a few minutes I am doing my live Ubuntu and community Q+A - bring your questions! http://is.gd/eDacF #ubuntu #communitySep 22 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, if I didn't know you better, I'd think you were making some Creationist argument there. It reads quite #disturbing on its face.Sep 22 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] If ever there was a reason to start saying "software freedom" instead of "Open Source", #Oracle's conference being called "OpenWorld" is oneSep 22 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Ugly hack? I dunno. It just works: "$ find -printf "%s\t%p\n" | sort -r -n | head -n 100" to find the 100 largest files in the directory.Sep 22 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Vatican Bank Facing Money Laundering Probe http://ur1.ca/1qq4u #douchebagsSep 22 19:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] A constantly usable testing distribution for Debian http://lwn.net/Articles/406301/rssSep 22 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] John Stewart rips Obama a new one http://ur1.ca/1qq7iSep 22 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Two former Blackwater employees tried for murder http://ur1.ca/1qq85Sep 22 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] That the first time I've ever seen Chromium crash. It was busy with Collecta when I dropped another link on it and phutt it was gone!Sep 22 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Java Creator James Gosling: Why I Quit Oracle (eWeek) http://bit.ly/beyeM3Sep 22 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You know the biggest problem for the content industry now? No one has the time to watch anything twice so why would you want to own it?Sep 22 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] One Web Day and W3C Community Groups http://ow.ly/197jRESep 22 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] o/~ Its summertime for Tiiittaaaaaaannnn o/~ http://ur1.ca/1qqbc !scienceSep 22 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] U of T student makes history with human-powered ‘flapping-wing’ plane http://ur1.ca/1qqbk !scienceSep 22 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] There's a virtualization test day going on in !Fedora tomorrow, you're invited to participate: http://2tu.us/2o4j !linux !fossSep 22 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "We wanted [...] that freedom'd go inside everything and then we could turn it on, and it's going pretty well!" !fs eben http://ur1.ca/1qetrSep 22 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Pioneer social bookmarking service Gnolia (ma.gnol.ia) shuts down for good 2010-SEP-29. Sad news.Sep 22 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Bay Area friends, "Copyright Criminals" is screening tmrw w/ DJs and a panel f/ Steinski, Amp Live & Jeff Chang: http://bit.ly/bawqXlSep 22 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn or intellignet design, perhaps? What's important is what's on HIS face ;-)Sep 22 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Starting a live Severed Fifth update at http://is.gd/fnn7B with music, release date and more! Be there! #severedfifthSep 22 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA Watch - http://bit.ly/dpC27w a free public service web site provided by Michael Geist; handy #actaSep 22 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Java Creator James Gosling: Why I Quit Oracle http://ur1.ca/1qqjlSep 22 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @carlopiana Steinbeck: "a beard is the one thing a woman cannot do better than a man, or if she can her success is assured only in a circus"Sep 22 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Many Words is Fair Use? Maybe More Than You and AP Thought: Let's Look at a Righthaven Case - http://bit.ly/9VSFtE v. important pointsSep 22 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn interestingly, my freshman year in college was one of 3 periods in which I've been consistently vegetarianSep 22 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fontana well, significant subset of freshman year anywaySep 22 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Impressed? No, not really: my views on the new "Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act" - http://bit.ly/9DHTmv (via @ipjustice)Sep 22 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Went to my local Borders bookstore to check out the Velocity Cruz Reader...but the demo unit was broken someone dropped it, oh well !androidSep 22 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bradley Manning support network http://ur1.ca/1qqosSep 22 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox reached 1373 million downloads on 2010-09-22 19:28 UTCSep 22 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Austrian Collection Societies Want A 'You Must Be A Criminal' Tax On Hard Drives - http://bit.ly/aAgvob what would Musil have said?Sep 22 20:29
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twitterTechrights is on PJ's mind.  :)Sep 22 20:31
twitterSee her newspick from today, "There is an interesting ruling [PDF] in a Righthaven copyright infringement case, one of its tidal wave of copyright infringement cases against bloggers in Nevada, Righthaven v. Klerks et al. Techrights  highlights ..."Sep 22 20:31
twitterThe story is actually from TechdirtSep 22 20:32
twitterSomeone should correct that.Sep 22 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Are Your Desktop Effects Slowing You Down? http://ur1.ca/1qqte Depends which one/sSep 22 20:33
twitterHeh, E16 is always speedy and has good effects with or without accelerated graphics.Sep 22 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dell Quietly Announces 7″ Android Tablet - http://tcrn.ch/cnZskL let's hope they remember the source code #android #dell #tabletSep 22 20:34
twitterActually, that's a PJ story not a newspick.Sep 22 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Some people are just incredible at what they try on "we innovate too fast for regulation" form AT&T http://bit.ly/96ycEX !hilariousSep 22 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Reason #12 - Hackers are heroes | http://bit.ly/cSqzDYSep 22 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jefferies & Co. expects Red Hat Inc. {..} rating on the [RHT] business software company with a price target of $45." http://ur1.ca/1qqvsSep 22 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Microsoft say IE9 is very popular; well they would say that wouldn't they http://bit.ly/9uz27V reality is more likely curiosity factorSep 22 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Upgrade to the Latest Versions of Your Favorite Ubuntu Software with PPAs http://ur1.ca/1qqx7Sep 22 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My first email account was Yahoo, new Yahoo mail is no good with Linux and the service sucks (read comments): http://tinyurl.com/27rhm7cSep 22 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram Shuttleworth said they would fork LinuxSep 22 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Bye bye sidux, hello aptosid http://tinyurl.com/237xyrm !debian !linuxSep 22 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat earning webcast at 2100GMT Sep 23. http://investors.redhat.com/index.cfm #fbSep 22 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian move to increase project members http://ur1.ca/1qqz3 !debian !gnu !linux growthSep 22 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay I was never 100% sure, are you working for Red Hat?Sep 22 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] 1 well-used papasan chair cushion + 1 slightly used dog = SPOILED.Sep 22 20:56
sebsebsebjono: uhmm for your ustreamSep 22 21:01
sebsebsebjono: got the first half yes on the videos, but  no second? will it be there as well or?Sep 22 21:02
schestowitzNo stream from RyanSep 22 21:02
sebsebsebwell not exactly a half, but you know what I mean :DSep 22 21:02
sebsebsebjonoSep 22 21:02
jonoschestowitz no strream from Ryan?Sep 22 21:02
jonosebsebseb, didnt recordSep 22 21:02
sebsebsebjono: Oh how come? The technical problems?Sep 22 21:03
jononet issuesSep 22 21:03
sebsebsebjono: it lagged a little bit, when you came back,  but wasn't to bad :)Sep 22 21:04
sebsebsebjono: Why didn't it record, because you weren't able to, because of connection issues?Sep 22 21:05
sebsebsebjono: I think you might have gone away now, but did you see my Happy Birthday jono in here, on your birthday?Sep 22 21:06
jonosebsebseb, I did, thanks!Sep 22 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anthony Kolasny Explains How KDE Software is Used At Johns Hopkins University http://ur1.ca/1qr6f XP users whom I put on !KDE love it!Sep 22 21:08
sebsebsebjono: ok your welcome :)Sep 22 21:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: Why does the topic here, still say to join boycottnovell channels by the way?Sep 22 21:13
schestowitzGood questionSep 22 21:17
schestowitzSuggest another titleSep 22 21:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: Topic is good, but shoudn't mention boycottnovell channels anymore, I guessSep 22 21:18
sebsebsebso yeah other then that, it's fineSep 22 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito Shuttleworth correctly predicted that Oracle would not leave Linux a commodity. I still think they might pull a btrfs/zfs trickSep 22 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Intel annoyed by crypto key leak http://ur1.ca/1qrdsSep 22 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: oh I see, and looks like they have done that. I don't think that's a good thing to do at allSep 22 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does anyone know the solution to the missing tray icon in !choqok 1.0 beta 3? It's probably any obvious search but I can't find it :(Sep 22 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz #Shuttleworth correctly predicted #Oracle wouldn'tt leave #Linux a commodity. I still think they might pull a btrfs/zfs trickSep 22 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thank goodness for Christopher Hitchens! http://ur1.ca/1qrf1 Let's wish him well for moraleSep 22 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox reached 1374 million downloads on 2010-09-22 20:28 UTCSep 22 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HP's Botched OpenWorld Keynotes: What Went Wrong (CIO) http://bit.ly/cK4YPtSep 22 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The earliest suggestion (among more) that I can find of Shuttleworth talking about Oracle fork (2006): http://ur1.ca/1qrjx ht @gappmeSep 22 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark Shuttleworth also had foresight to warn that Apple - not #Vista7 - is a major rival to !gnu !linux. Apple's market cap exceeds msft'sSep 22 21:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Sorry, but your system does not meet the minimum system requirements" http://ur1.ca/1qrlz Yahoo!soft and Adobe shamed #fail #binaryonlySep 22 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OLF should have a fancy dress theme with Life Of Brian style fake beards all round, even for those with beards, men and women ;)Sep 22 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Google's Eric on #TheColbertReport. Let's see what he says. !effSep 22 21:51
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schestowitzNovell staff trolls us todaySep 22 21:55
gnufreexWhere?Sep 22 21:55
schestowitzProper trollingSep 22 21:55
gnufreexurlSep 22 21:55
gnufreexYou mean in the caves :-)Sep 22 21:55
schestowitzeg http://twitter.com/dmacvicar/status/25221068189Sep 22 21:55
schestowitzWe get trolled many times a day in Twitter, but not always from NovellersSep 22 21:56
schestowitzJust the anonymous cowardsSep 22 21:56
schestowitzWho are maybe Novell employees, but it's hard to tellSep 22 21:56
gnufreexNovellers are cocky today because NOVL stock is upSep 22 21:56
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gnufreex6.51, it wasn't that hight for years. All because VMware rumors. My theory about pumping up the stock might be true.Sep 22 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OAuth 2.0 security used by Facebook, others called weak (Network World): http://bit.ly/aHYce3Sep 22 21:59
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gnufreexThis novell troll is stupid. He even suck at trolling.Sep 22 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] And now #EbenMoglen indirectly refers to @fontana at 21:32. http://ur1.ca/1qetrSep 22 22:01
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schestowitzHmmm... we're in a new press release...Sep 22 22:02
schestowitzIn the references.Sep 22 22:02
schestowitzhttp://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseWire/Death_by_Vaccination_The_Gates_Foundation_and_the_New_Eugenics,201033588.aspxSep 22 22:02
schestowitz"Sep 22 22:02
schestowitz[5] Schestowitz, Roy. "Gates Foundation Retreats After Being Exposed as Funder of Big Tobacco." Techrights.org. April 19, 2010.Sep 22 22:02
schestowitz[6] Schestowitz, Roy. "Bill Gates Invests Heavily in Deception about Global Warming and in Abusive Monopolies." Techrights.org. February 22, 2010.Sep 22 22:02
schestowitz"Sep 22 22:02
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gnufreexRed Hat reported Q2 results http://www.marketwatch.com/story/red-hat-reports-second-quarter-results-2010-09-22?reflink=MW_news_stmpSep 22 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Harder to Breathe by Maroon 5 from Songs About Jane !lastfmSep 22 22:04
schestowitz"Over the past several years, evidence is accumulating over Gates' and his Foundations' duplicity in saying one thing and acting otherwise. For example, frequently Gates has stated his opposition to Big Tobacco and claims he refuses to invest or fund any organization and company contributing to smoking. However, a recent investigation showed that the Foundation has in fact invested in Big Tobacco for quite some time.[5] Similarly,Sep 22 22:06
schestowitzbehind his verbiage on tackling climate change and shifting to non-fossil fuel technologies at the TED conference, Gates remains a heavy investor in Big Oil, particularly Exxon-Mobile and British Petroleum—perhaps the two oil companies the most corrupt history in recent decades.[6] "Sep 22 22:06
schestowitzYes, it's good that radio stations now spread these factsSep 22 22:06
schestowitz"The tetanus vaccines, manufactured by Connaught and Intervex in Canada, and CSL, Ltd in Australia (a leading maker of the H1N1 flu vaccine that has been implicated in statistically significant numbers of seizures and heavily supported by the Rupert Murdoch family) were laced with hCG.[17] "Sep 22 22:08
schestowitzI didn't know Murdoch too had investments outside mediaSep 22 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @osamak you are right!Sep 22 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Java Creator James Gosling: Why I Quit Oracle - http://bit.ly/cZkmTL how *not* to manage senior people #oracle #javaSep 22 22:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @toros List of schools using !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/B36J < I know of moreSep 22 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Was surprised when I went to Eweek site to read article about James Gosling. Popups? Really? In 2010? Eweek doesn't get it. Goodbye forever.Sep 22 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Apparently puff pieces on Nathan Myhrvold's cookbook make me even angrier than stories about his patent trolling firm.Sep 22 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] I like the fact that #EbenMoglen defends @rms positions and describes how smart they were in every talk he gives. rms deserves it. !gormsSep 22 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Victor Rask and Anais Schneider hamper Stena Carron sailing http://ur1.ca/1qrxdSep 22 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lnxwalt140 Pioneer social bookmarking service Gnolia (ma.gnol.ia) shuts down for good 2010-SEP-29. Sad news.Sep 22 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @richslxh @methoddan Totally agree Jimmy Cliff is a stone cold legend. I have two of his LPs. No video sadlySep 22 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz @glynmoody Java Creator James Gosling: Why I Quit #Oracle - http://bit.ly/cZkmTL how *not* to manage senior people #javaSep 22 22:31
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schestowitzHi, Chips_B_MalroySep 22 22:31
schestowitzRHT's results imminentSep 22 22:32
schestowitzShould be decentSep 22 22:32
Chips_B_MalroyHi RoySep 22 22:32
gnufreexschestowitz: RHT results are already out, I posted the linkSep 22 22:32
gnufreexIt is 220m in revenues.Sep 22 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Midori browser is really fast. It's the first time I've really tried it. I really like it!Sep 22 22:33
gnufreex20% growth comparing to year ago quarterSep 22 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana Steinbeck: "a beard is the one thing a woman cannot do better than a man, or if she can her success is assured only in a circus"Sep 22 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @vbatts: New kernel for slackware64-13.1, to fix the 32 bit compat hole #slackware #linuxSep 22 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @firefoxmilestones #Firefox reached 1373 million downloads on 2010-09-22 19:28 UTCSep 22 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Slackware's 1 major distro I haven't really used. I installed it & tried it, but it didn't support most of my hardware, so I had to give upSep 22 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @mattl @cure at lunch: "If it's proprietary, it doesn't exist" !gnu !fsfSep 22 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Austrian Collection Societies Want A 'You Must Be A Criminal' Tax On Hard Drives - http://bit.ly/aAgvob > Internet!=multimediaSep 22 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Titanic sunk by steering mistake, author says http://yhoo.it/dxaWvtSep 22 22:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Likewise, not all storage holds multimedia or books. For conglemerates: typical to assume that people use storage and net for copying (c)...Sep 22 22:44
schestowitz.Sep 22 22:45
schestowitz[20:31] <twitter> Techrights is on PJ's mind.  :)Sep 22 22:45
schestowitzWe cover issues that overlap with techdirt and groklaw to some extentSep 22 22:45
schestowitztechdirt an groklaw occasionally link to usSep 22 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz @glynmoody Austrian Collection Societies Want A 'You Must Be A Criminal' Tax On Hard Drives http://➡.ws/㼘豯Sep 22 22:48
twitterI think this link was in error.Sep 22 22:48
twitterclearly pointing back to Techdirt.Sep 22 22:48
twitterDid Techdirt reference Techrights?Sep 22 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Michael Dell teases new 7-inch Android tablet, says Streak to land in Best Buy next month (update: pic) http://ur1.ca/1qqnf via @glynmoodySep 22 22:49
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twitterdoes not look like it.Sep 22 22:53
schestowitzHmmm... we're cited by several political pro-GOP sites like http://polipundit.com/?p=26395Sep 22 22:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[firefoxmilestones/@firefoxmilestones] #Firefox reached 1375 million downloads on 2010-09-22 21:53 UTCSep 22 22:54
schestowitztwitter: yes, PJ's mistakeSep 22 22:55
schestowitzShe thought of us, I guessSep 22 22:55
schestowitzTechrights was tessier's suggestionSep 22 22:55
twitterut oh, it looks like PJ is right to focus attention on it.Sep 22 22:56
schestowitzhttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/09/22/1348211/Microsoft-Says-IE9-Beta-Demand-Overwhelming?from=rssSep 22 22:56
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schestowitzI' glad /. is no longer syndicated hereSep 22 22:56
twitterShe's been worried about sneaky GPL attacks and "implied license" fits the bill.Sep 22 22:56
schestowitzI'm not a big fan of some Groklaw commenterSep 22 22:57
schestowitzZealous legalese huggersSep 22 22:57
schestowitzLike people who would say, "is this legal?"Sep 22 22:57
twitterIt would be better to defend what bloggers do as fair use, not an implied license.Sep 22 22:57
schestowitzTechrights couldn't attract the same crowdSep 22 22:57
schestowitzWe insult lawyers too muchSep 22 22:58
schestowitzAnd Apple usersSep 22 22:58
schestowitzMany of whom read Groklaw, it seems.Sep 22 22:58
schestowitzWe also insult PR peopleSep 22 22:58
schestowitzInsult as in criticise their impact on societySep 22 22:58
schestowitzGroklaw wins and loses hereSep 22 22:58
twitterYou don't insult people as a class, you point out what specific people are doing.Sep 22 22:58
schestowitzIt wins because some people won't be put offSep 22 22:58
schestowitzIt loses due to self-censorshipSep 22 22:59
schestowitzIt won't say certain things, like criticise rhat and ibm patentsSep 22 22:59
schestowitzOr openly call corruption what it isSep 22 22:59
twitterGroklaw wins for me because of their careful research.Sep 22 22:59
schestowitzMistakes are made sometime, like everywhere elseSep 22 23:00
twitterand I don't go for the Muller spin that Groklaw never criticizes IBM and Red Hat.Sep 22 23:00
twitterPJ goes after patents and thinks they are silly.Sep 22 23:01
twitterIf she does not say much about IBM, it is because IBM does not do much with them.Sep 22 23:01
twitterMuller pointed to PJ's defense of IBM in the TH case and it looks like PJ was right about it.Sep 22 23:02
schestowitz"Actually I think this number not completely honest. 6 Days ago Microsoft because a sponsor of Reddit and asked the Reddit community to test it out and give feed back."Sep 22 23:02
schestowitzhttp://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1795790&cid=33662744Sep 22 23:02
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twitterthat was not about patents, however, it was another license attack that could undermine the GPL.Sep 22 23:02
schestowitzShame on RedditSep 22 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Reports Second Quarter Results http://ur1.ca/1qs92 "an increase of 20% from the year ago quarter."Sep 22 23:03
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twitterWatch out for the "implied license" attack on the GPL if these bloggers win against obnoxious quoting restrictions.Sep 22 23:04
twitterhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100921/03205611088/judge-indicates-lvrj-may-have-offered-an-implied-license-to-copy-in-righthaven-lawsuits.shtmlSep 22 23:05
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twitterThe real crime is that any US judge gave Righthaven the time of day.Sep 22 23:05
twitterUS copyright law need to evolve to promote copyleft, something that actually follows the intent the establishment clause.Sep 22 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @bkuhn maybe a reflection of how much a mess this area is...Sep 22 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @bkuhn @glynmoody I assumed Google wanted to canvas public opinion in support of their project, albeit by the back door?Sep 22 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @magicfab: #Launchpad bugs can be linked to in a shorter way - see http://pad.lv/ #tips #ubuntuSep 22 23:13
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gnufreexhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/22/redhat_q2_f2011/Sep 22 23:13
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schestowitz[21:56] <gnufreex> Novellers are cocky today because NOVL stock is upSep 22 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP's Botched OpenWorld Keynotes: What Went Wrong http://ur1.ca/1qsby OpenWorld?? Oracle??? OpenWorld sounds more like what BP is doingSep 22 23:14
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schestowitzThat sounds like sexually connotativeSep 22 23:14
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schestowitzHere comes The OhmSep 22 23:15
schestowitz[21:58] <gnufreex> 6.51, it wasn't that hight for years. All because VMware rumors. My theory about pumping up the stock might be true.Sep 22 23:15
schestowitzGood for SingerSep 22 23:15
schestowitzAnd his GOP amfiaSep 22 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 eweek/ziff davis is in bankrupcy, still trying ways to scrape $$Sep 22 23:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @copiesofcopies the Nathan Myhrvold cookery spin goes years back. The guy is vain, foul-mouthed (see antritrust mail) #iv #troll #microsoftSep 22 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @copiesofcopies] Apparently puff pieces on Nathan Myhrvold's cookbook make me even angrier than stories about his patent trolling firm.Sep 22 23:21
schestowitz[22:33] <gnufreex> 20% growth comparing to year ago quarterSep 22 23:22
schestowitzAh, I was catching up w/ IRCSep 22 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner !Midori browser is really fast. It's the first time I've really tried it. I really like it!Sep 22 23:24
schestowitz[22:48] <twitter> Did Techdirt reference Techrights?Sep 22 23:25
schestowitzYes, occasionally it does. The editor and I communicate sometimesSep 22 23:26
schestowitz[22:56] <twitter> She's been worried about sneaky GPL attacks and "implied license" fits the bill.Sep 22 23:26
schestowitzThat's what she does/did in her jobSep 22 23:26
schestowitzRisk analysisSep 22 23:26
schestowitzThat's also why she defends company I don'tSep 22 23:27
schestowitzLike Black *uck SoftwareSep 22 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Serengeti ecosystem threatened by development http://ur1.ca/1qsebSep 22 23:28
schestowitz[23:01] <twitter> PJ goes after patents and thinks they are silly.Sep 22 23:28
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schestowitzShe didn't in the past. I learned she used to defend them, but maybe that's untrue. I hope soSep 22 23:29
twitterShe's done a good job of tying together a lot of things that make no sense on their own and linking most back to Microsoft.  I think her GPL attack theories have merit.Sep 22 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram Titanic makes good headlines after the film... otherwise unworthy, belated news? :-)Sep 22 23:29
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twitterhmmm, PJ does not seem to have thought of GPL attack in this case.  I probably would not have even read it if she had not not accidentally attributed Techrights.Sep 22 23:36
twitterNow, I'm looking through the whole thing.Sep 22 23:37
twitterLOL, on insulting lawyers, PJ says, "Not all lawyers are bottom-feeding, low life sharks who think only about money."Sep 22 23:40
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_Goblinjono: you available?Sep 22 23:42
_Goblinquick QSep 22 23:42
schestowitztwitter: they AREN'T? /sarcasmSep 22 23:45
schestowitzRemember she spent her career working around some and knowing them personallySep 22 23:45
schestowitzGeneralisations are badSep 22 23:45
_Goblingood evening Roy.....Sep 22 23:45
twitterI agreeSep 22 23:45
schestowitzI always say "patent lawyers" when I say they impede progressSep 22 23:45
schestowitzBecause they usually do, collectivelySep 22 23:46
schestowitz_Goblin: hey, 'sup?Sep 22 23:46
schestowitzI saw the new policySep 22 23:46
schestowitzGood moveSep 22 23:46
_GoblinI was quite pleased...Sep 22 23:46
schestowitzNow you can see why last year we too needed a policySep 22 23:46
schestowitzAnd it was well overdueSep 22 23:46
_GoblinI get to keep my free speech policy and don't have to see his posts in the comments section.Sep 22 23:46
schestowitzSelective speech thenSep 22 23:47
_Goblinand you could argue that its better for Robo, since he has the stage all to himself, albeit a text file that you can see all his comments in..Sep 22 23:47
schestowitzAs in, "not all speech is created equal'Sep 22 23:47
schestowitzIn techright we made ground ruleSep 22 23:47
schestowitzAnd those who repeatedly break them are banned, no comments get deletedSep 22 23:47
_GoblinI still won't censor anything...his posts will be collected into a text file monthly, like your IRC logs....Sep 22 23:47
_Goblinif anyone wants to read them, they can download them.Sep 22 23:48
_Goblinso they are not deleted nor censored...just moved.Sep 22 23:48
schestowitzTHe abuse has to be based not on technical merit, e.g. threatening to sue someone, attacking members of family, etcSep 22 23:48
schestowitzHeheSep 22 23:48
_GoblinIm also blocking insecure proxies/rangesSep 22 23:48
schestowitzHe'll just harass Pogson nowSep 22 23:49
_Goblinah....Ive got plans for that...Sep 22 23:49
schestowitzUntil Pogson gets his act together and stops harbouring/feeding those trollsSep 22 23:49
_GoblinI've collated the proxies he's using...to add a blocklist to wordpress is quite simple.Sep 22 23:49
schestowitzDo you have his e-mail addy?Sep 22 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] !elmdentica just pruned out any Twitter reference. Other !freesoftware µ-blog tools should do the same. http://bit.ly/9J3mFxSep 22 23:49
schestowitzThey ruin his blog, he might need your adviceSep 22 23:49
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_Goblinno...don't think so, I was going to make the blocklist available via openbytesSep 22 23:50
_Goblinits very easy to keep an up to date list of anon insecure proxies.Sep 22 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] still working for lectures tomorrow… isn't it depressing?Sep 22 23:51
_Goblinso far in the last few days he's posted 148 posts (Robotron) my filter and bot has got most of them....Sep 22 23:51
_Goblinjust got back from work to see how busy he has been.Sep 22 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] If Twitter goes back on it's idiocy then !elmdentica will support it just fine with type StatusNet... only some functions won't work.Sep 22 23:53
_Goblinanyway...been busy still with audacity...piecing together my podcast... Tom Smith kindly provides the intro music.....Sep 22 23:54
twitterOK, now I know that PJ did not consider the GPL attack angle.  She thinks Righthaven is just out to make money RIAA style.Sep 22 23:54
twitterBut even the RIAA is not making money off their lawsuits.Sep 22 23:55
twitteror are they?Sep 22 23:55
twitterI see both as part of the war against sharing.Sep 22 23:55
schestowitznot the lawsuitsSep 22 23:56
twitterThey will make money if they can but deep pockets and obsolete business models are at work.Sep 22 23:56
schestowitzThe atmosphere of fearSep 22 23:56
*schestowitz prepares more daily links, then do posts...Sep 22 23:59

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