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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] I hate this 108 degree weather!Sep 26 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman: "iBad users tend to be wealthy selfish jerks." http://ur1.ca/1rud1 #hypepad #appleSep 26 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Just checked. 107F in El Centro, where I worked most of the Summer.Sep 26 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] #PHP, how do I hate you from time to time... #iRail - including one file in an included file from another path is hell. #PHPRelativityTheorySep 26 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Double standard continues to reign http://ur1.ca/1rui4Sep 26 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Remotely wiping mobile phones - the ability is being misused - http://goo.gl/OubiSep 26 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Remotely wiping mobile phones [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 62.36 KBSep 26 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @teirdes RT @jerezim [video] Will you show the content of your USB flash drive....to #ACTA? http://ur1.ca/1robg #PrivateCopyrightPoli ...Sep 26 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robocopyright ACTA [video] | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 16.81 KBSep 26 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK:Bye bye Suse, welcome Fedora http://tinyurl.com/36ejraz !suse !linux !foss !novell !fedoraSep 26 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bye bye Suse, welcome Fedora «  Luc de Louw's Blog .::. Size~: 19.89 KBSep 26 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Sarasota wildlife affected by spilt oil http://ur1.ca/1ruxySep 26 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Copyright enforcement firm ACS:Law hit by embarrassing email leak http://tinyurl.com/2vs6r2y !piracy !p2p !bbc !itv !skySep 26 01:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyright enforcement firm ACS:Law hit by embarrassing email leak - Broadband Genie .::. Size~: 28.44 KBSep 26 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Congrats to Khan Academy on getting the Google’s Project 10^100 funding! http://www.project10tothe100.com/intl/EN_GB/index.html #fbSep 26 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fridge The process of rendering schmaltz should be schmelting.Sep 26 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ronier “Write drunk; edit sober.” ~Ernest HemingwaySep 26 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<on dinner break from #inconstantmoon polish marathon ... reading @_the_mad_hatter !Copyright Part#4 The Sky is Falling http://ur1.ca/1rv2dSep 26 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Four  The Sky Is Falling .::. Size~: 153.52 KBSep 26 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Watching Bend It Like BeckhamSep 26 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @mohanpram *WebOSSep 26 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @laurelrusswurm "While the current law has it’s problems, !BillC32 will be a lot worse." ~Wayne Borean !qSep 26 01:56
MinceRgnSep 26 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @chicagonpg: CIA used illegal, inaccurate code to target kill drones http://is.gd/fsRqmSep 26 02:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CIA used 'illegal, inaccurate code to target kill drones' • The Register .::. Size~: 28.09 KBSep 26 02:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻@schestowitz FSF tries to eliminate software patents Microsoft Florian slams FSF calling them "spammers". This is anti- #swpats campaigner?Sep 26 02:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Some people never learn http://ur1.ca/1rvabSep 26 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good cable design by Sony. Hopefully, it will not be one that is then stuck behind proprietary connectors! http://ur1.ca/1rvch #fbSep 26 02:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IEEE Spectrum: Sony Cable Could Free Design of Portables .::. Size~: 82.36 KBSep 26 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Debate over Gulf oyster stocks http://ur1.ca/1rvqhSep 26 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Dark Blue S02E04Sep 26 04:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bread and circuses http://ur1.ca/1rw2dSep 26 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] turns out that "I can see clearly now" is a pretty easy tune to play on the guitarSep 26 04:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] ♺ @schestowitz: Richard Stallman: "iBad users tend to be wealthy selfish jerks." http://ur1.ca/1rud1 #hypepad #appleSep 26 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito about LA cops who take down hard criminals but follow their own set of rulesSep 26 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @rms Why doesn't DefectiveByDesign discuss the Climate Change implications of TPM/DRM? I've been pushing this issue, but no one gets it.Sep 26 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<I'm touched, Thank you for thinking of me :D @Jeff__Emmerson @PoetyK @leapetra @s_nunn @pensadorloucoSep 26 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @danish_novelist Went into Barnes & Nobles at Union Square/NYC and saw 5 copies of The Tsar's Dwarf on the shelves. Yes!!! <congrats! :)Sep 26 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Just make it up as you go along http://ur1.ca/1rwgfSep 26 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] se Folha, Veja e Globo apoiassem Mercadante como apóiam Serra, ligariam em altos brados os incêndios nas favelas ao AlckminSep 26 06:06
schestowitzhttp://webaim.org/discussion/mail_message?id=6887Sep 26 06:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WebAIM: E-mail List Archives .::. Size~: 9.2 KBSep 26 06:11
schestowitz“If ISO-html goes beyond W3C recommendations, it goes too far. IfSep 26 06:11
schestowitzISO-html stops short of W3C recommendations, it doesn’t go far enough.Sep 26 06:11
schestowitzIf ISO-html matches W3C recommendations specifically, why bother?”Sep 26 06:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bungee Labs is dead. http://reverendted.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/ribungeelabs/ #BungeeLabsSep 26 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: R.I.P. Bungee Labs « Reverend Teds Blog .::. Size~: 27.67 KBSep 26 06:16
cubevectorEillison seems to be a real not-nice personSep 26 06:16
cubevectorEllisonSep 26 06:16
cubevectorjust read what Gosling had to saySep 26 06:16
cubevectorhmm, being crawled by symantecspiderSep 26 06:20
cubevectorthat's a new oneSep 26 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Netezza vs. IISi http://ur1.ca/1rwwoSep 26 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] VideoEgg to Acquire Six Apart and Create SAY Media http://ur1.ca/1rwxa WIll SAY Media keep its free/open source promises?Sep 26 06:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Say Media / News / VideoEgg to Acquire Six Apart and Create SAY Media .::. Size~: 19 KBSep 26 06:36
schestowitzcubevector: he's not niceSep 26 06:41
schestowitzANd there's big news coming next weekSep 26 06:41
schestowitzre OracleSep 26 06:41
cubevectorgood news?Sep 26 06:42
schestowitzgood and bad, but you'll seeSep 26 06:42
schestowitzThere might also be news from Microsoft re layoffs soonSep 26 06:43
schestowitzThat's a "good"Sep 26 06:43
cubevectorI'm curious, do you get any increase in traffic in Sept?Sep 26 06:43
schestowitzI don't know, I can't checkSep 26 06:44
schestowitzWhy do you ask? Have you had an increase?Sep 26 06:48
schestowitzTechrights basically grows in readership as time goes by because there are more subscribers and pages. Netcraft #s show that among Linux/UNIX we grow; I probably alienate many of he rest also with the anti-Apple rhetoricSep 26 06:49
schestowitzhttp://www.lemagit.fr/article/linux-poste-travail-openoffice-opensource-office-2010/7147/1/applications-open-source-bristol-fait-machine-arriere/Sep 26 06:50
cubevectorit's been rather flat this year:Sep 26 06:50
schestowitzBristol i smovingSep 26 06:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Applications Open Source : Bristol fait machine arrière::Linux::LeMagIT .::. Size~: 65.28 KBSep 26 06:50
cubevectorhttp://maxhost.org/usage/index.htmlSep 26 06:50
schestowitzYou have thousands of pages thereSep 26 06:51
schestowitzmaxhost.org/Sep 26 06:51
schestowitzhttp://maxhost.org/blog/linux-blog.htmlSep 26 06:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notes on Linux .::. Size~: 32.72 KBSep 26 06:52
schestowitzBut you hardly blog anymore, I'm on RSSep 26 06:52
schestowitzBut you hardly blog anymore, I'm on RSSSep 26 06:52
cubevectoroh yeah that's trueSep 26 06:52
schestowitzIs this a blospot frame?Sep 26 06:52
cubevectoroh see that's whySep 26 06:53
schestowitz<link rel="me" href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/06334616051847604357" />Sep 26 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blogger: User Profile:  cubex  .::. Size~: 6.75 KBSep 26 06:53
schestowitz<link rel="openid.server" href="http://www.blogger.com/openid-server.g" />Sep 26 06:53
cubevectoryou're looking at the old ftp blogSep 26 06:53
schestowitzhttp://maxhost.org/notes.txtSep 26 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 26 06:53
cubevectorI was forced off ftpSep 26 06:53
schestowitzhttp://maxhost.org/cgi-bin/sensors.cgiSep 26 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 26 06:53
cubevectorhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.comSep 26 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notes on Linux .::. Size~: 32.31 KBSep 26 06:53
schestowitzI need to get back to updating by siteSep 26 06:54
schestowitzIt's still in ~2005 shapeSep 26 06:54
cubevectorI didn't want to go off ftp, but now you can't use blogger with ftpSep 26 06:55
cubevectorI hated moving, but what can you do?Sep 26 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bristol councillor makes stand for open source http://ur1.ca/1rx0y 'give up its open source ambitions “over my dead body”.'Sep 26 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Community Welcomes Government Support http://ur1.ca/1rx15 “Free software is an idea whose time has come,” said TaylorSep 26 06:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bristol councillor makes stand for open source | THINQ.co.uk .::. Size~: 32.2 KBSep 26 06:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Community Welcomes Government Support | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 34.68 KBSep 26 06:58
cubevectorI may start a philosopy blogSep 26 06:59
cubevectorI doubt anyone will read it thoughSep 26 06:59
cubevectorI have tons of ideas for the Linux blog thoughSep 26 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @hound: Ah mira! mi estado en gnewbook ahora se publica en identi.ca!Sep 26 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Running The X.Org Server Without Root Privileges: Besides talking about the X.Org Server development process and t... http://bit.ly/b91Ww9Sep 26 07:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Running The X.Org Server Without Root Privileges .::. Size~: 20.79 KBSep 26 07:01
cubevector-5V:       -0.00 V  (min =  -5.48 V, max =  -4.50 V)   ALARM ;-)Sep 26 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] woke in a sweat, dreamt about George's funeral. Only a few days til the anniversary :/Sep 26 07:02
cubevectorthanks a bunch power supply manufacturersSep 26 07:03
schestowitz[06:59] <cubevector> I may start a philosopy blogSep 26 07:05
schestowitzWe have this going to some extent in IRCSep 26 07:05
schestowitzYEsterday I spoke about it for like 5 hours straight with some people... until the phone rangSep 26 07:06
cubevectoroh I better check the logs then :)Sep 26 07:06
cubevectorI must have missed thatSep 26 07:06
schestowitzcubevector: Linux can be political and philosophical. It has been since GNU days, I thinkSep 26 07:06
cubevectorI really don't find it that political, more philosphical than politicalSep 26 07:07
schestowitz[07:02] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] woke in a sweat, dreamt about George's funeral. Only a few days til the anniversary :/Sep 26 07:07
schestowitzWho's GEorge?Sep 26 07:07
cubevectorwow, everyone's looking at my old blog and not the new oneSep 26 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sion Phipps on Oracle JDK plans: "No mention of the future of the JCP or a plan to unblock the Apache Harmony issue." http://ur1.ca/1rx4gSep 26 07:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ☞ Old Models « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 43.59 KBSep 26 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oops. That would be "Simon". While omitting words/letters, I might as well label FogComputing "Loud Computing" because of all the hype it isSep 26 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz Open Source Community Welcomes Government Support http://ur1.ca/1rx15 “Free s/w is an idea whose time has come,” said TaylorSep 26 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decided to set up a default install of mint 9 gnome and kde on the netbook to do screencasts fromSep 26 07:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Community Welcomes Government Support | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 34.69 KBSep 26 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] !Supernatural is back I'm so excideSep 26 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @tamasrepus US citizen? Pls write the USPTO w/ your thoughts on patent reform. RFC till Sep 27 http://ur1.ca/1r65l !Linux !FOSSSep 26 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Encourage the USPTO to stop issuing software patents; deadline September 27 &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.56 KBSep 26 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Repower America http://ur1.ca/1rx7vSep 26 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Students to Take Computers and Wikipedia to Africa http://ur1.ca/1rxda "trained to use Ubuntu [..] to be able to teach the locals."Sep 26 07:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Students to Take Computers and Wikipedia to Africa  | World | Epoch Times .::. Size~: 28.44 KBSep 26 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Latest #OpenShot makes it into #Maverick http://goo.gl/iT5ISep 26 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Digital Parenting: Show your kids that you're not much more annoying than their computers http://goo.gl/r2vISep 26 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest OpenShot makes it into Maverick .::. Size~: 24.85 KBSep 26 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Digital Parenting .::. Size~: 38.83 KBSep 26 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Full Circle Magazine (the independent magazine for the !Ubuntu Linux community), issue 41 has been released: http://goo.gl/qcDdSep 26 08:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hot off the presses: issue 41! «  Full Circle Magazine .::. Size~: 28.52 KBSep 26 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #LinuxMint 10 to use #Faenza icon set? http://goo.gl/HN0GSep 26 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 to use Faenza icon set? .::. Size~: 37.68 KBSep 26 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: Poll Results for #Zeitgeist integration http://goo.gl/BdolSep 26 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seilo @ Geeky Ogre  » Blog Archive   » Poll Results for Zeitgeist integration .::. Size~: 18.31 KBSep 26 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/9/2010: Many New !GNU !Linux Releases, #FreeSoftware in British Government http://ur1.ca/1rxk5 !techrightsSep 26 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Miliband looking after the middle classes? Talk about looking after your own http://bbc.in/da3TilSep 26 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 26/9/2010: Many New GNU/Linux Releases, Free Software in British Government | Techrights .::. Size~: 140.77 KBSep 26 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Labour leader Ed Miliband makes vow to middle classes .::. Size~: 60.58 KBSep 26 08:28
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/mandriva-implodes-spawns-mageia-fork Implodes? Not true. The comment says so tooSep 26 08:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Mandriva Implodes, Spawns Mageia Fork  .::. Size~: 41.36 KBSep 26 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Turning a blind eye on Gulf oil damage http://ur1.ca/1rxlpSep 26 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] HTML formatting from highlighters depresses me, <span class="n">dobackup</span> <span class="o">=</span> <span class="bp">False</span>Sep 26 08:34
schestowitzHaha. "This disappoints and saddens open source fans like Florian Mueller, who despite fighting software patents like growth as well as the next guy. "Sep 26 08:43
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-enterprise-market-is-not-walking-away-from-open-source/7422Sep 26 08:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The enterprise market is not walking away from open source | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 115.31 KBSep 26 08:43
schestowitzOpen Source FANS?Sep 26 08:43
schestowitzAGAINST swpats?Sep 26 08:43
schestowitzWHat utter lies...Sep 26 08:43
schestowitzhttp://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000322.jpgSep 26 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Doomed to Obscurity   .::. Size~: 76.24 KBSep 26 08:46
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schestowitzThe one is still around... http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/cs-generator.htmlSep 26 08:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:       Write stunning thesis papers with SCIgen     .::. Size~: 11.4 KBSep 26 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I must be nuts, I now have 4 OS's multibooting on my netbookSep 26 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #engadget editor against #drm: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/25/editorial-for-the-umpteenth-time-copy-protection-only-hurts/ !fsf !dbd !lpSep 26 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Editorial: For the umpteenth time, copy 'protection' only hurts people who actually buy your product -- Engadget .::. Size~: 71.26 KBSep 26 09:06
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/24/deer-made-from-typew.htmlSep 26 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Deer made from typewriter parts - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 33.12 KBSep 26 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Defenders of Free Software - http://nyti.ms/aFNiyE NYT on GPL violations: good to see mainstream coverage #gpl #licensingSep 26 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.11 KBSep 26 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French court convicts Google and boss of defamation - http://bit.ly/cnM1xF & fails to understand the technology #google #defamationSep 26 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: French court convicts Google and boss of defamation .::. Size~: 9.36 KBSep 26 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A happy birthday despite grim news - http://on.today.com/cmRhTs "the object isn’t to live as long as you can, but as well as you can"Sep 26 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cancer journal: A happy birthday despite grim news - TODAY Health - TODAYshow.com .::. Size~: 52.56 KBSep 26 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] European Commission OSS Strategy Draft Mar 2009: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/European_Commission_OSS_Strategy_Draft,_Mar_2009 !fsf !lpSep 26 09:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Commission OSS Strategy Draft, Mar 2009 - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 19.39 KBSep 26 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] A perfect storm brews in world food supplies http://ur1.ca/1ry00Sep 26 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘I'm @holman on GitHub.’ yup, history is repeating, @ is the new ~Sep 26 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Omer Akram: Its not Dock, its !unity launcher http://goo.gl/nHqfSep 26 09:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Its not Dock, its unity launcher « My Blog .::. Size~: 14.93 KBSep 26 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Software patentees win only 12.9% of their cases, while NPEs win only 9.2%." #swpat are #fail IMHO, good stuff here: http://is.gd/ftAZhSep 26 09:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 271 Patent Blog: Bombshell Study: Heavily Litigated NPE Patents Overwhelmingly Lose at Trial .::. Size~: 120.08 KBSep 26 09:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] The Defenders of Free Software http://is.gd/ftC3R (nytimes) feat. @armijn !fsfe #mustreadSep 26 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.05 KBSep 26 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer "Software patentees win only 12.9% of their cases, while NPEs win only 9.2%." #swpat are #fail IMHO, good stuff here: htt ...Sep 26 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @rayvr Publicado en Wikileaks documentos para frenar al Software Libre en la UE http://m.menea.me/mni5 !softwarelibre !linux !gnuSep 26 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Publicado en Wikileaks documentos para frenar al Software Libre en la UE .::. Size~: 114.23 KBSep 26 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @jwildeboer "Software patentees win only 12.9% of their cases, while NPEs win only 9.2%." good stuff here: http://is.gd/ftAZhSep 26 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 271 Patent Blog: Bombshell Study: Heavily Litigated NPE Patents Overwhelmingly Lose at Trial .::. Size~: 120.08 KBSep 26 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @royhugo The Defenders of Free Software http://is.gd/ftC3R (nytimes) feat. @armijn !fsfe #mustreadSep 26 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] China spying gmail again: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/09/25/2134232/Google-Warning-Gmail-Users-On-Spying-From-China !eff !fsfSep 26 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Violent Christian militia terrorizes Sudan http://ur1.ca/1ryh4Sep 26 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] free 10-week online HTML5 mobile web dev by O'Reilly - 2200hrs GMT Tuesdays from Oct 5 - Dec 7 http://training.oreilly.com/html5mobile/ #fbSep 26 11:07
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SubsonicBGood morning gentlemenSep 26 11:25
schestowitzHiSep 26 11:26
schestowitzRegarding that leaks from wikileaksSep 26 11:26
SubsonicBYup!Sep 26 11:26
schestowitzIt was covered a long time ago in many placesSep 26 11:26
schestowitzThere's new dirt on ACTSep 26 11:26
schestowitzThey still lobby for MicrosoftSep 26 11:26
SubsonicBjust saw it back in the news at the "spanish digg" (meneame.net)Sep 26 11:27
SubsonicBhttp://www.meneame.net/story/publicado-wikileaks-documentos-para-frenar-software-libre-ueSep 26 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Publicado en Wikileaks documentos para frenar al Software Libre en la UE .::. Size~: 135.94 KBSep 26 11:27
SubsonicB[COMMENT: THIS SECTION ENCROACHES ON THESep 26 11:28
SubsonicBWORK OF WG 4 AND WOULD BEST BE DELETED.Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicBALTERNATIVELY, IT SHOULD BE NUANCED ANDSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBEXPANDED INCLUDING OUR EDITS BELOW]Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicBExperience suggests that lack of interoperability consumes around 30-40% of ITSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBbudgets in both the private and public sector (this is not limited to OSS butSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBapplies to software in general). [COMMENT: UNDOCUMENTED,Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicBCONTESTED AND IRRELEVANT, SHOULD BE DELETED]. Since InSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBinstances when procurement calculation generally does not account forSep 26 11:28
SubsonicB“decommissioning” or “exit” costs from a particular solution a procurementSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBdecision for a specific solution often can establishes a strong bias in favour of theSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBvendor of the first solution for all consecutive tenders. This violates EuropeanSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBlegislation which mandates vendor neutrality based on transparency and nondiscrimination.Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicB5 [COMMENT: SUCH A GENERAL STATEMENT ISSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBUNDOCUMENTED, DISPUTED AND IRRELEVANT FOR THE PURPOSESep 26 11:28
SubsonicBOF THE PAPER, AND SHOULD BE DELETED. INSTEAD WE PROPOSE]:Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicBSuch practices, like tenders preferring or mandating OSS or narrowly definedSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBopen standards, can be in conflict with European public procurement legislationSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBneutrality and transparency requirements and should be examined more closely.Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicBExamples for this practice were highlighted by a recent study6 of Open ForumSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBEurope (OFE), which scanned 136 tenders for trademarked names concludedSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBthat 25% of these tenders were specifically requesting trademarked products, inSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBthe authors’ view violating the principle of vendor neutrality.Sep 26 11:28
SubsonicBOn the other hand, tenders preferring or mandating open source software orSep 26 11:28
SubsonicBnarrowly defined open standards, according to the view of leading software tradeSep 26 11:29
SubsonicBassociations, can be in breach of the same neutrality principles.Sep 26 11:29
SubsonicB5http://www.osor.eu/news/hidden-cost-of-proprietary-standards-may-lead-to-illegal-tendersSep 26 11:29
SubsonicBhttp://wikileaks.org/wiki/European_Commission_OSS_Strategy_Draft,_Mar_2009Sep 26 11:29
SubsonicBIt dates from March 2009Sep 26 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hidden cost of proprietary standards may lead to illegal tenders &mdash;  .::. Size~: 28.84 KBSep 26 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Commission OSS Strategy Draft, Mar 2009 - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 19.43 KBSep 26 11:29
SubsonicBI assume they keep lobbying against Free Software in Europe in order to derail any initiative for adoption of GNU/Linux and FOSSSep 26 11:30
schestowitzYesSep 26 11:30
schestowitzBut they pretend to speak for small businessesSep 26 11:30
schestowitzgnufreex:Sep 26 11:30
SubsonicBIt strikes me it as well that they try to avoid the creation of an independent software industry in EuropeSep 26 11:31
schestowitzYou should see Dana falling for Microsoft Florian againSep 26 11:31
schestowitz "This disappoints and saddens open source fans like Florian Mueller, who despite fighting software patents like growth as well as the next guy. "  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-enterprise-market-is-not-walking-away-from-open-source/7422Sep 26 11:31
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schestowitzSubsonicB: but SAP tooSep 26 11:31
schestowitzErwin was on the panelSep 26 11:31
SubsonicBConfirmed: Florian Mueller is a professional hired gun lobbyist who today can defend a thing and tomorrow defend the opposite, depending who hires himSep 26 11:32
SubsonicByes, SAPSep 26 11:32
SubsonicBpretty much any big multinational corporation cant be considered "European" (or "American", whatever) anymore... their only motherland is moneySep 26 11:33
schestowitzYesSep 26 11:33
Diablo-D3I should email florianSep 26 11:33
Diablo-D3I wanna know how you get a job doing thatSep 26 11:33
schestowitzDon'tSep 26 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More on UK Qur'an burning http://ur1.ca/1ryvkSep 26 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Amazing how Debian and Red Hat have created choice! http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/gldt1009.pngSep 26 11:39
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SubsonicBAnd dont forget good old SlackwareSep 26 11:40
oiaohmThe battle is on going.Sep 26 11:41
oiaohmNvidia recently is being a pain for Linux on laptopsSep 26 11:41
oiaohmthe intel Nvidia hybred does not work with LinuxSep 26 11:41
Diablo-D3oiaohm: dont worry, it doesnt work right on windows eitherSep 26 11:42
Diablo-D3it uses a specially hacked up driverSep 26 11:42
oiaohmAt least it kinda works on windows.Sep 26 11:42
oiaohmCompared to nothing on LinuxSep 26 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer Amazing how Debian and Red Hat have created choice! http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/gldt1009.pngSep 26 11:42
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cubevectorsounds pretty crappySep 26 11:43
SubsonicBI dont understand why AMD/ATI does not react and take advantage of this and releases good FOSS drivers for GNU/Linux, it would get much love from the community, lots of free good PR and would force nvidia to keep their drivers good qualitySep 26 11:44
cubevectorI always thought the radeon driver was pretty goodSep 26 11:45
oiaohmSubsonicB: The problem is building a legal clear driver in open source is not a short process.Sep 26 11:45
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oiaohmAMD/ATI are doing a lot to help open source driver development.  Just the legal side is slow.Sep 26 11:45
Diablo-D3waitSep 26 11:46
Diablo-D3lets be fair hereSep 26 11:46
Diablo-D3AMD spent millions just to CLEAR the legal sideSep 26 11:46
Diablo-D3they're the only company who ever been willing to do thatSep 26 11:46
SubsonicBlegal clear in what sense? Release it under the GPLv3 and just in Europe (or elsewhere where sw patents are illegal)Sep 26 11:46
oiaohmaSep 26 11:46
Diablo-D3SubsonicB: AMD is an american companySep 26 11:46
Diablo-D3they have to release it in America and make sure it doesnt violate existing licensing agreementsSep 26 11:46
oiaohmATI licenced techs from other companies.  SubsonicBSep 26 11:47
oiaohmThey can only release techs they fully own.Sep 26 11:47
Diablo-D3SubsonicB: not only that, ATI was fucking retarded and didnt keep their internal docs cleanSep 26 11:47
Diablo-D3so AMD had to clean up the messSep 26 11:47
Diablo-D3which they didSep 26 11:47
SubsonicBOK good to knowSep 26 11:47
Diablo-D3nvidia refuses to, intel doesnt care toSep 26 11:47
oiaohmIntel for lot of chipsets has released docs at least legally clear.Sep 26 11:47
Diablo-D3AMD is also paying for development of mesa, dri, and galliumSep 26 11:47
Diablo-D3something nvidia and intel arentSep 26 11:47
oiaohmNvidia has always refused to release dos.Sep 26 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra RT @royhugo The Defenders of Free Software http://is.gd/ftC3R (nytimes) feat. @armijn !fsfe #mustreadSep 26 11:48
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Diablo-D3oiaohm: intel docs are uselessSep 26 11:48
oiaohmIntel is funding some of the gallium and mesa development.Sep 26 11:48
Diablo-D3AMD is actually directly funding the effortSep 26 11:48
oiaohmOk Intel could be doing more.Sep 26 11:48
Diablo-D3intel is not funding mesa/gallium devSep 26 11:48
Diablo-D3they've released code, but its shit codeSep 26 11:48
Diablo-D3AMD directly hires codersSep 26 11:48
Diablo-D3Intel merely has hired coders who, at the end of the day, work for IntelSep 26 11:48
oiaohmCompared ot Nvidia Intel even with the crappy code is miles ahead.Sep 26 11:49
Diablo-D3intel wastes more time than anythingSep 26 11:49
Diablo-D3everytime intel releases open source, it has to be rewritten twice to get it to workSep 26 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Unofficially reviewed gnome-exe-thumbnailer http://is.gd/ftKil #fedoraSep 26 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Amazing how Debian and Red Hat have created choice! http://futurist.se/gldt/wp-content/uploads/gldt1009.pngSep 26 11:49
Diablo-D3AMD doesnt release open source... they pay, up front, to have it written.Sep 26 11:49
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SubsonicBDiablo-D3: Do you know/can you recommend me a recent ATI graphics card that works well with GNU/Linux (including 3D acceleration?)Sep 26 11:49
Diablo-D3so AMD knows how the fuck shit works here.Sep 26 11:49
Diablo-D3SubsonicB: any.Sep 26 11:49
oiaohmNvidia releases of open source drivers had to be doc stripped so you don't know what the code is ment to be doing.Sep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3but you'll have to use fglrx.Sep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3oiaohm: nopeSep 26 11:50
SubsonicBokSep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3oiaohm: they ONCE released A 2D driver.Sep 26 11:50
oiaohmAnd updates to the nv driver Diablo-D3Sep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3the current drivers are not based on their work at allSep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3oiaohm: nopeSep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3they are no longer doing updates to nvSep 26 11:50
oiaohmThey did a few updates.Sep 26 11:50
oiaohmBefore killing it.Sep 26 11:50
Diablo-D3they publically told X to fuck offSep 26 11:50
cubevector:-/Sep 26 11:50
oiaohmOpen source nv driver was doc stripped so making impossible to maintain.Sep 26 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] FARC show UK Ministry of Defence how to institute a data protection policy. (and many other organisations) http://ur1.ca/1ryyw !securitySep 26 11:51
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Diablo-D3and X/mesa/gallium basically told nvidia that if nvidia threatens to sue the noveau guys again, they will hire lawyers.Sep 26 11:51
Diablo-D3intel is apethetic to linux, nvidia is outright hostileSep 26 11:51
amarsh04subsonicB, have a look at the #radeon channelSep 26 11:52
SubsonicBthanks, I'll do soSep 26 11:52
oiaohmIntel at least puts some some developers who work is worth something.  Diablo-D3Sep 26 11:52
amarsh04running fine on the new pc with someone's old radeon 3850hd that they gave meSep 26 11:52
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, but its intel codeSep 26 11:53
Diablo-D3oiaohm: AMD hires people at X/mesa/gallium/fdo/etc to do workSep 26 11:53
Diablo-D3and its true open source workSep 26 11:53
Diablo-D3and not vendor specificSep 26 11:53
oiaohmIntel has done head of the X11 project for a stage.  Diablo-D3Sep 26 11:53
oiaohmAnd that is vendor independant code.  Diablo-D3Sep 26 11:53
Diablo-D3intel wanders in and outSep 26 11:53
Diablo-D3but they're no AMDSep 26 11:53
oiaohmAMD I do agree does more and better.Sep 26 11:54
oiaohmBut at least intel is not hostile and will assist with the resources they are allocated.Sep 26 11:54
Diablo-D3nvidia can fuck off, thoughSep 26 11:55
Diablo-D3I wish they'd file for bankruptcy alreadySep 26 11:55
MinceRyeah, who wants high-end gpu-s that have actual working driversSep 26 11:55
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oiaohmYep I want high end working drivers.Sep 26 11:56
oiaohmThat don't kernel panic stuff under load either MinceRSep 26 11:56
MinceRthat would be niceSep 26 11:57
MinceRthough i don't remember any of my drivers kernel panicing under loadSep 26 11:57
amarsh04with Intel, any netbook seems to have their on-board graphics that is not supported by any open driverSep 26 11:58
MinceRnot any, just the ones that ship with GMA 500/600(?)Sep 26 11:58
Diablo-D3amarsh04: does it happen to have a gma 500?Sep 26 11:58
MinceRpowervr shit intel licensedSep 26 11:58
Diablo-D3because thats not an intel chip at allSep 26 11:58
Diablo-D3yeah, what MinceR saidSep 26 11:58
MinceRit's better to go for the actual intel chips, like GMA 950Sep 26 11:58
Diablo-D3you know whats so fucking retarded?Sep 26 11:58
Diablo-D3gma 500 is the lowest power chip intel fabs... and its rather powerfulSep 26 11:59
Diablo-D3its also the only chip they have that can decode blurays.Sep 26 11:59
amarsh04but the marketing blurb that accompanies the product description claims that the GMA 500/600 is intelSep 26 11:59
oiaohmI have had a few Nvidia closed source do it to me.Sep 26 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Album to buy: «Imaginary Road» by Jef Neve Trio #deZevendeDagSep 26 11:59
Diablo-D3amarsh04: its fabbed by them, and they licensed it.Sep 26 11:59
MinceRanother thing that's fucking retarded is that apparently the only GPU that's shipped with ARM systems is that same powervr crapSep 26 11:59
Diablo-D3amarsh04: but its not related to any intel gpuSep 26 11:59
Diablo-D3amarsh04: its a standard powervr coreSep 26 11:59
Diablo-D3MinceR: "crap"?Sep 26 12:00
Diablo-D3powervr cores are the best low power gpus you'll ever findSep 26 12:00
Diablo-D3Im very impressed with themSep 26 12:00
MinceRand what do you do with them? run winblows? oh wait, that doesn't run on ARMSep 26 12:00
oiaohmCESep 26 12:01
Diablo-D3MinceR: huh?Sep 26 12:01
Diablo-D3powervr ships es 2.0 stacks for themSep 26 12:01
oiaohmEveryone wants to forget windows CE MinceRSep 26 12:01
amarsh04I haven't heard that they're supported well by open drivers. At least I can play 3d games, watch high definition videos including on home theatre pcs with the radeonSep 26 12:01
Diablo-D3amarsh04: thats intel's faultSep 26 12:01
MinceRoiaohm: with good reasonSep 26 12:01
amarsh04exactly, Diablo-D3Sep 26 12:02
MinceRwinblows ce is monumentally shittySep 26 12:02
Diablo-D3amarsh04: powervr chips do work under linux with closed source driversSep 26 12:02
MinceRand who gets to use those drivers?Sep 26 12:02
amarsh04yes, but I want to avoid going thereSep 26 12:02
Diablo-D3amarsh04: that same powervr core ships android phones and iphone/ipad shit, for exampleSep 26 12:02
MinceRsomeone wrote they only give them out if you sign an NDASep 26 12:02
amarsh04I've never run fglrxSep 26 12:02
Diablo-D3MinceR: actually, google is working on a fully open source es 2.0 stack for powervr hardwareSep 26 12:02
Diablo-D3they arent really comfortable with most of their phones relying on that much closed source.Sep 26 12:03
MinceRthat's goodSep 26 12:03
Diablo-D3it doesnt help phones with snapdragons, thoughSep 26 12:04
Diablo-D3snapdragons use shit ATI made (that isnt related to radeons at all) that they sold off before AMD bought themSep 26 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Great idea just on the radio, invent an alarm clock that wakes you up with the smell of bacon !humourSep 26 12:04
Diablo-D3nvidia also has a core under the geforce brand thats completely unrelated to geforces thats also shitSep 26 12:04
MinceRwhich one?Sep 26 12:05
Diablo-D3tegra2s use that core, for exampleSep 26 12:05
Diablo-D3tegra2 == if nvidia made a snapdragon, and fucked it up in the usual nvidia mannerSep 26 12:05
amarsh04I've mentioned interest in getting one of these but as I'm not a c coder it would probably be of more benefit going to a developer: http://linuxfund.org/projects/ogd1/Sep 26 12:06
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cubevectortoo expensiveSep 26 12:06
Diablo-D3amarsh04: why doesnt that guy collaborate with open hardware initative guysSep 26 12:06
amarsh04they have worked constructively with others... I've read all the opengraphics mailing listSep 26 12:07
amarsh04a product on that link is necessary before fabbing an asic designSep 26 12:07
Diablo-D3Im not really interested in an open source gpu, btwSep 26 12:08
amarsh04I do want open specifications and drivers thoughSep 26 12:08
Diablo-D3I really want a massively parallel and fast DSP plugged into a low latency high bandwidth busSep 26 12:08
Diablo-D3with a very dumb framebuffer attatchedSep 26 12:08
Diablo-D3I already even have a name for itSep 26 12:09
Diablo-D3"a modern video card"Sep 26 12:09
amarsh04heheSep 26 12:09
Diablo-D3FPGAs are kinda useless hereSep 26 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking to start a Khan Academy Singapore meetup to address the sorry state of education in Singapore. Any one interested? DM me please. #fbSep 26 12:11
Diablo-D3like, look at TI C64x family DSPsSep 26 12:13
Diablo-D3well, 67x, need the FPSep 26 12:13
Diablo-D3if I needed a completely new GPU that competed with existing stuffSep 26 12:14
Diablo-D3I'd license that from TI, and put like 100 of those on a dieSep 26 12:14
Diablo-D3and run them at high clockratesSep 26 12:14
*amarsh04 passes Diablo-D3 a liquid nitrogen cooling systemSep 26 12:15
Diablo-D3you do realize those are very low power designs, right?Sep 26 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In bed. With a cold. Hrmpf.Sep 26 12:16
Diablo-D3and btw, opencores does have a c54x impl thats 100% open sourceSep 26 12:17
Diablo-D3c54x == 16bit predessesor to the c64xSep 26 12:18
Diablo-D3so, if I was a multimillionare, making an open source c67x wouldnt be out of the questionSep 26 12:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @jwildeboer rest well.Sep 26 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 1k of Javascript that scares the almighty fuck out of me http://ur1.ca/1m2boSep 26 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Defenders of Free Software (New York Times) http://lwn.net/Articles/407090/rssSep 26 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] "Thanks for the feedback. I've closed the service." http://ur1.ca/1rzciSep 26 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sharing: Theft or Duty? - http://bit.ly/byDk5q what I think, and why #sharing #copyright #patentsSep 26 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Krita - The KDE Answer to GIMP | TuxArena http://ping.fm/yZv2rSep 26 13:09
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schestowitz"But he said although the dye meant the police could track down robbers it didn't stop criminals from using the damaged money in machines or laundering it in other ways." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11397415Sep 26 13:09
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schestowitzWon't this just anger the robbers and make them kill cashiers/teller?Sep 26 13:09
schestowitzHeh.Sep 26 13:11
schestowitzMinceR:Sep 26 13:11
schestowitzI regard Matt Asay as one of the most perceptive commentators on the world of free software and related areas. So I was rather disappointed to read the following in one of his recent columns, which dealt with the BSA's highly dodgy claims about piracy:Sep 26 13:11
schestowitz    I don't mean to diminish the wrong nature of stealing software. Theft is theft and should be punished.Sep 26 13:11
schestowitzQUOTE ^^^ http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/09/sharing-theft-or-duty.htmlSep 26 13:11
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amarsh04http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#TheftSep 26 13:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/09/21/nokia-exec-compares-android-to-boys-peeing-their-pantsSep 26 13:17
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amarsh04and on the same page http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#PiracySep 26 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Learning by Examples looks like useful site http://ping.fm/svbzRSep 26 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Grumpy Editor's Twitter experience [LWN.net] http://ping.fm/8yp1wSep 26 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The future of KDE | News | TechRadar UK [Fridays news] http://ping.fm/lusCBSep 26 13:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Free Up Insane Amount of Disk Space in Ubuntu by Deleting Cached Package Files | Tech Drive-in http://ping.fm/SVUUsSep 26 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Six weeks to win http://ur1.ca/1rzq0Sep 26 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Patients to be frozen into state of suspended animation for surgery - Telegraph http://ow.ly/2K0iLSep 26 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Meet #SparkleShare, An !OpenSource #Dropbox Alternative [Ubuntu Installation Instructions] ~ Web Upd8 http://ping.fm/J1QnsSep 26 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leaked Emails Reveal Profits of Anti-Piracy Cash Scheme - http://bit.ly/aKs7Co more depressing details #acslawSep 26 14:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Iran confirms massive Stuxnet infection of industrial systems - http://bit.ly/9O2bbv 30K Windows PCs: might be time to look at GNU/Linux, ehSep 26 14:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iran confirms massive Stuxnet infection of industrial systems - Computerworld .::. Size~: 83.38 KBSep 26 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Leaked Emails Reveal Profits of Anti-Piracy Cash Scheme - http://bit.ly/aKs7Co more depressing details #acslawSep 26 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] When are we going to stop conceding goals :-P !mufcSep 26 14:19
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twitterInteresting .... I start a conversation on Groklaw where I assert, without really knowing, that the RIAA lawsuits are money losers.  A couple of days later, there's this big leak about how much money a firm is raking in.  It's good to see how greedy these idiots are but I'm still not sure the operation is a money maker overall.Sep 26 14:30
twitterhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20100922113406655&title=Sneaky%20GPL%20attack%3F&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=876368Sep 26 14:31
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twitterI'm interested in what else comes from these leaked emails and wonder if the scam will make any of the lawyers more than the going rate.  The RIAA hates to pay people more than they have to.  http://www.salon.com/technology/feature/2000/06/14/loveSep 26 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Ahmadinejad on 9/11 http://ur1.ca/1s03dSep 26 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching One Piece 468 !animeSep 26 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @rms: A lot of people do not like the facts to get in the way of a good bogey man bashing storey. Obliterate Israel story was the same.Sep 26 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Still not convinced that I should pay $$$ to go watch the F1 night race. The HD TV broadcast is more than sufficient! #fbSep 26 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/9/2010: More Oracle and Java, Defenders of Software Freedom in the New York Times http://ur1.ca/1rxk5 !techrightsSep 26 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: no it' a tv series, about 10 episodes per season (and I believe it's summer season not the regular tv season).Sep 26 15:08
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cubevectorI can't believe Zuckerberg is worth 6.9 billionSep 26 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: no, I should start reading it, I bet it pretty far ahead of the anime series.Sep 26 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Not able to use @feedly - Yeah I read the explanatory blog notice etc, but I miss it. It remains the most efficient way of gathering newsSep 26 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] No transparency allowed http://ur1.ca/1s0h1Sep 26 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito: yeah thanks no spoilersSep 26 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "Cuidado para não te tornares aquilo que mais odeias" - PT odiou tanto o PMDB que ficou igual, fisiológico, clientelista e atrasado.Sep 26 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Standard Ubuntu on the Netbook http://goo.gl/ftaz /by @gamerchick02Sep 26 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] JAYCUT: Free (as in beer) Online Video Editor http://goo.gl/bMISSep 26 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @laurelrusswurm Is becoming increasingly annoyed at paying $11 for a robot.Sep 26 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 100+ basic linux terminal commands and tricks http://ow.ly/2K2pYSep 26 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I may have mentioned Decibel Audio Player before, but µblogging is a transient medium as they say so I'm forgiven? http://ow.ly/2K2vnSep 26 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Easily Integrate !Thunderbird into the !Ubuntu Messaging Menu http://ow.ly/2K2z3Sep 26 16:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Integrate !Thunderbird into the !Ubuntu Messaging Menu http://ow.ly/2K2z3Sep 26 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @rmack Chinese Internet espionage against human rights activists and journalists: http://bit.ly/cS8AMP >>Windows-based, it seemsSep 26 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] $1.8 Million in XO Laptops Lost to Corruption in Iraq - http://bit.ly/a16Jxl "mission accomplished", indeed #xo #iraq #corruptionSep 26 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Elect Dennis Kucinich http://ur1.ca/1s0yrSep 26 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Finished reading Anathem; awesome book which I'll probably re-read more than once. A GEB for a new generation. #book #philosophy #mathSep 26 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #MPAA goes on the rampage about streaming video sites, complaining, they "lack any whiff of the illicit" http://ow.ly/2K3qe !openrightsSep 26 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Watching a classic movie.... "The Thing" ... The John Carpenters remake is probably one of the greatest horror movies of all time !horrorSep 26 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Been looking at quite a few games for Linux over the last few days.....some crackers out there.Sep 26 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Stena Carron drama continues http://ur1.ca/1s1dwSep 26 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Watch They Live! My favorite(along Escape From NY) John Carpenter movie.Sep 26 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The benefits of publicness - http://bit.ly/9FZKiy interesting how most of this maps directly on to free software #publicness #opennessSep 26 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obama argues his assassination program is a "state secret" - http://bit.ly/cOMnXV er, shouldn't he be stressing he has none? #murder #usSep 26 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] The old van is now in the hands of its new owner. Farewell Golden Funk Machine!Sep 26 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Pirate Party Elects New Leader - http://bit.ly/9FhGc4 hope the old one didn't have to walk the plank... #pirates #ukSep 26 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Clubbing baby seals is GPL-compatible: Why Oracle can do better | NetworkWorld.com Community http://ping.fm/qciblSep 26 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @rmack RT @idzhangjian: CHina WIkileaks will launch RT @feedzshare [zh] http://ow.ly/199EQS [uk] http://bit.ly/cmxl5r >>v. big #chinaSep 26 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hotot #Twitter Client Feels Sophisticated, Install Hotot in #Lucid, #Maverick via #PPA | Tech Drive-in http://ow.ly/2K4gqSep 26 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Yeah Ive seen it! Being a wrestling fan, had to see Rowdy Roddy Piper in action! "Ive come here to chew bubblegum and kick ..."Sep 26 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Booking a hotel in Paris has never been so complicated.Sep 26 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] "Yes I keep planning on renovating the bathroom since two years ago, thus I cannot go out of my way to fix the dripping downstairs, sorry"Sep 26 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes And I'm out of bubblegum... Gr8 Movie!Sep 26 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Yeah it was.....probably my second favorite Carpenter movie.Sep 26 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] New US health care regulations go into effect http://ur1.ca/1s1uuSep 26 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Stephen Harper And Michael Ignatief - The Men With The Most To Lose In The Next Election http://bit.ly/aJwufzSep 26 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @dhraak really, I think I just want !choqok on the !n900Sep 26 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Huh...empathy didn't have accounts for some reason. I had to import them inSep 26 18:54
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schestowitzBad newsSep 26 19:05
schestowitzSeems like Microoft entryism at NokiaSep 26 19:05
schestowitzThey might dump Linux for Windows according to sourcesSep 26 19:06
schestowitzTHe cult has taken over Nokia like THe BLobSep 26 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] upset right now because it seems like Microsoft entryism at Nokia is working, pushing Windows at Linux' expense. Post tomorrow....Sep 26 19:09
hazzyI really don't think Microsoft will be successful with that anywaySep 26 19:11
hazzyEven if they do get Nokia to use WinMo, people will just ditch NokiaSep 26 19:12
MinceRschestowitz: it would take some ignorance to find asay "perceptive"Sep 26 19:14
schestowitzHe is being politeSep 26 19:14
schestowitzhazzy: true, BUT....Sep 26 19:14
schestowitzWe need NokiaSep 26 19:15
schestowitzIt's a carrier for MeeGoSep 26 19:15
hazzyOh, yeah, you're rightSep 26 19:15
schestowitzMicrosoft is already sabotaging thisSep 26 19:15
schestowitzI meant "carrier" not in the technical sense BTWSep 26 19:15
schestowitzhazzy: I have many linksSep 26 19:16
schestowitzI will do a long article tomorrow to show thisSep 26 19:16
hazzyAlright, coolSep 26 19:16
schestowitzBillG is also up to no goodSep 26 19:16
schestowitzAnd his buddy Bono :-)Sep 26 19:16
schestowitz http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/201205/Bono-charity-spends-more-on-wages-than-good-causes-/  http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/155038/Bono-s-ONE-campaign-gets-10m-donations-but-gives-just-118k-/Sep 26 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Bono charity spends more on wages than good causes  .::. Size~: 47.61 KBSep 26 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Star: Simply The Best 7 Days A Week :: News :: Bono's ONE campaign gets £10m donations but gives just £118k  .::. Size~: 53.61 KBSep 26 19:16
schestowitzHow much is that? Like 1%?Sep 26 19:16
schestowitzAnd he got so much PR from itSep 26 19:16
schestowitzTHe Star should also do an expose of GatesSep 26 19:17
hazzyHaha, Bono is a fraudSep 26 19:17
Diablo-D3yes he isSep 26 19:17
schestowitzUnless Gates has already bought the Star like it did the Guardian week after it had criticised himSep 26 19:17
Diablo-D3he tries to pass himself off as a musicianSep 26 19:17
Diablo-D3what a liarSep 26 19:17
hazzyDiablo-D3: No arguments there either :PSep 26 19:18
schestowitzMan of the YEar in TimesSep 26 19:19
schestowitzANd Gates started wearing sunglasses like himSep 26 19:20
schestowitzWhat COOL peopleSep 26 19:20
schestowitzAnd SO generous... and richSep 26 19:20
schestowitzRich AND most generousSep 26 19:20
schestowitzWhat did YOU do? DId you leave just $50 bn in the bank?Sep 26 19:20
schestowitzBTW...Sep 26 19:20
schestowitzhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/09/gates_bezos_see_wealth_rise_on_forbes_list_of_richest_americans.htmlSep 26 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gates, Bezos see wealth rise on Forbes list of richest Americans .::. Size~: 62.9 KBSep 26 19:21
schestowitzPoor Gates is still making moneySep 26 19:21
schestowitzBut.... he's also giving away :-) :-)Sep 26 19:21
schestowitzTo MonsantoSep 26 19:21
schestowitzThen the shares go upSep 26 19:21
schestowitzAnd they 'give' him... more than he gave them :-pSep 26 19:22
schestowitzDiablo-D3: tell us not how to shill like FlorianSep 26 19:22
schestowitzTell us how to shill but also be glorifed for it :-)Sep 26 19:22
schestowitz*iedSep 26 19:22
*schestowitz cynicalSep 26 19:23
Diablo-D3I dunno manSep 26 19:24
Diablo-D3I wanna know how to shill and get paid for itSep 26 19:24
schestowitzThe army does thatSep 26 19:26
schestowitzJoin the armySep 26 19:26
schestowitzThey have forum shills, I read occasionallySep 26 19:26
schestowitzThey say in Wikipedia that Fidel is a transsexual for exampleSep 26 19:27
Diablo-D3I'd WORK for the armySep 26 19:27
Diablo-D3but not join itSep 26 19:27
Diablo-D3they're free to hire me as a contractorSep 26 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dear !Linux, why would anyone buy binary drivers for Intel GPUs to do OGL 2.1 when FOSS drivers already meet this goal? http://ur1.ca/1s25ySep 26 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] OMG Ghostbusters is coming on !tvSep 26 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Personal happy point in !Fedora 14: offlineimap is faster and more efficient, and no longer crashes when an account is offline.Sep 26 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz They own QT. R they going to board the sinking winblow$ mobile 7 ??? Well, let them die embraced then...Sep 26 19:36
schestowitzAs a contractor you get to kill people without the  'pesky' rules of the armySep 26 19:36
schestowitzAsk the mercenaries...Sep 26 19:36
schestowitz:-/Sep 26 19:36
schestowitzThat's why many sadists would joinSep 26 19:37
MinceRgeekingsSep 26 19:37
MinceRyou might also get to fight for a side without being treated like cattle. :>Sep 26 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘Since May 4, 2006 you have read a total of 250,000 items.’ #greaderSep 26 19:38
hazzyhttp://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aO0eQ1nq8FJQSep 26 19:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Said to Be Working on Phones With Partner INQ for AT&T  - Bloomberg.com .::. Size~: 35.75 KBSep 26 19:40
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schestowitzWhat OS?Sep 26 19:41
schestowitzI saw it last weekSep 26 19:41
schestowitzToo vagueSep 26 19:41
hazzyAndroidSep 26 19:41
schestowitzAhSep 26 19:41
schestowitzWhat will Zuck's mates say?Sep 26 19:41
schestowitzOzzie for example?Sep 26 19:41
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hazzyYes, I was thinking the sameSep 26 19:41
schestowitzMicrosoft gives good bribes for carriers to stock Vista Phone 7 right now, it seems...Sep 26 19:41
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schestowitzZuck doesn't worry me muchSep 26 19:42
schestowitzin the -social channel someone is more worried about himSep 26 19:42
schestowitzHe has hardly  forced me to install anythigSep 26 19:42
schestowitzJust peer pressureSep 26 19:42
schestowitzNow it sometimes becomes a condition to accessing photo albumsSep 26 19:42
hazzyHis working with Microsoft doesn't seem so blatant eitherSep 26 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc5-git7 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelSep 26 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20100924 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelSep 26 19:43
schestowitzGoogle is another story, as wellSep 26 19:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 28.58 KBSep 26 19:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 28.58 KBSep 26 19:43
schestowitzMicrosoft owns part of FacebookSep 26 19:43
schestowitzIt wanted and tried to buy the whole thingSep 26 19:43
schestowitzhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/222416.aspSep 26 19:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft integrates LinkedIn across Windows Live .::. Size~: 62.9 KBSep 26 19:43
hazzyWell, it seems he's "buddy-buddy" with many people of MicrosoftSep 26 19:43
schestowitzhttp://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/222416.asphttp://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/09/linkedin-integrated-with-windows-live-facebook-chat-hits-hotmail.arsSep 26 19:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBSep 26 19:44
gnufreexzuckerberg is spreading Silverblight over Facebook.Sep 26 19:44
schestowitzThey can't leave anything aloneSep 26 19:44
schestowitzand BongSep 26 19:44
schestowitzTHey just signed a new dealSep 26 19:44
hazzyhttp://theappwhisperer.com/?p=1499Sep 26 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple iPhone 4 Big Hit In China  Awesome Images Of The Event .::. Size~: 25.57 KBSep 26 19:45
hazzyWasn't Microsoft rumored to be giving up on Sliverlight?Sep 26 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Goddamnit, D3D10/11 is now native on !Linux. Should I congratulate them or send death threats? http://ur1.ca/1pzyu http://ur1.ca/1pzyuSep 26 19:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Direct3D 10/11 Is Now Natively Implemented On Linux! .::. Size~: 21.96 KBSep 26 19:48
schestowitz<hazzy> Wasn't Microsoft rumored to be giving up on Sliverlight?Sep 26 19:48
schestowitzIt might stay a niche like ZuneSep 26 19:48
schestowitzRefusing to die cause Vista Phone 7 needs some of itSep 26 19:49
schestowitzBut otherwise practically a losing productSep 26 19:49
hazzyWell, I've heard that it's been installed on ~51% of PCsSep 26 19:50
hazzyProbably because of NetflixSep 26 19:50
schestowitzhttp://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bigpoint-mmo-utilizes-microsoft-silverlight-to-bring-unprecedented-quality-to-browser-based-gaming-103438174.htmlSep 26 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Bigpoint MMO Utilizes Microsoft Silverlight to Bring Unprecedented Quality to Browser-Based Gaming --     HAMBURG, September 21, 2010 /PRNewswire/ -- .::. Size~: 53.61 KBSep 26 19:51
schestowitzIn one while week, the only headline with "Silverlight" in it was a press releaseSep 26 19:51
schestowitzThat's the oneSep 26 19:51
schestowitzhazzy: Netflix~=MicrosoftSep 26 19:51
schestowitzBoardSep 26 19:51
hazzyAhSep 26 19:52
hazzyI did not know thatSep 26 19:52
schestowitzMe neitherSep 26 19:52
schestowitzCHips told meSep 26 19:52
schestowitzIt's hard to know each person's employment history unless they move and the press release says someSep 26 19:52
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hazzyhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20017533-92.htmlSep 26 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ivankristianto: Beginners Guide: #Monitoring !Linux System Command http://bit.ly/9Qin71 #cliSep 26 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webatou: RT: @silner: Easily Integrate !Thunderbird into the !Ubuntu Messaging Menu http://ow.ly/2K2z3Sep 26 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @raymii: ♺ @silner: #Linux game database | Database for native !Linux games http://ow.ly/2K2xnSep 26 20:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beginners Guide: Monitoring Linux System Command | Ivan Kristianto Blog .::. Size~: 65.94 KBSep 26 20:13
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schestowitz_loghazzy: maybe AMD?Sep 26 20:18
hazzyschestowitz: Hmm, I don't know, but it seems to be bad news, considering how hostile they are to GNU/LinuxSep 26 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Iran confirms massive Stuxnet infection of industrial systems - http://bit.ly/9O2bbv 30K Windows PCs: might be time to look at GNU/Linux, ehSep 26 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] The Carriers’ Rebellion http://is.gd/fuunW (the monday note) #android !gnu !linuxSep 26 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iran confirms massive Stuxnet infection of industrial systems - Computerworld .::. Size~: 82.99 KBSep 26 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Carriers’ Rebellion | Monday Note .::. Size~: 71.89 KBSep 26 20:21
schestowitzBad news from AU http://www.crn.com.au/News/232709,telstra-snares-microsoft-partner-director.aspxSep 26 20:28
schestowitzamarsh04:Sep 26 20:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Telstra snares Microsoft partner director - Software - Technology - News - CRN Australia .::. Size~: 75.85 KBSep 26 20:28
schestowitzAnother one...Sep 26 20:28
schestowitzMicrosoft->Telstra shift continuesSep 26 20:28
amarsh04Telstra have had big share price drops due to people wanting the National Broadband Network and "anything but Telstra"Sep 26 20:29
schestowitzThat's a reliefSep 26 20:29
schestowitzMaybe they are like NokiaSep 26 20:30
schestowitzSuffering.Sep 26 20:30
schestowitzThen looking for Microsoft infusion as last resortSep 26 20:30
schestowitzAs many companies have done (and failed)Sep 26 20:30
schestowitzXandros, Corel, Novell...Sep 26 20:30
schestowitzhttp://www.9to5mac.com/27911/apple-now-bigger-than-microsoft-in-enterprise-itSep 26 20:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple now bigger than Microsoft in enterprise IT mobility |  9 to 5 Mac   Apple now bigger than Microsoft in enterprise IT mobility | Apple Intelligence  .::. Size~: 47.87 KBSep 26 20:30
hazzyOh...what a coincidenceSep 26 20:32
amarsh04virgin blue airlines in .au are having more computer problems, blaming hardware problemsSep 26 20:32
hazzyI just stumbled this page: http://www.derangedshaman.com/2010/09/25/why-nokia-need-to-develop-a-windows-phone-7-device/comment-page-1/Sep 26 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Nokia needs to develop a Windows Phone 7 device «  Derangedshaman .::. Size~: 48.99 KBSep 26 20:33
hazzyThere have been many carriers here in the US that explicitly say that they will not be carrying any WP7 phonesSep 26 20:35
hazzyhttp://techhijack.com/2010/09/new-windows-phone-doesnt-want-you-to-use-it/Sep 26 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   New Windows Phone doesnt want you to use it | Tech Hijack .::. Size~: 15.32 KBSep 26 20:37
hazzyhttp://advice.cio.com/shane_oneill/13001/microsoft_to_customers_dont_let_ie9_keep_you_from_windows_7Sep 26 20:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft to Customers: Don't Let IE9 Keep You from Windows 7 | CIO - Blogs and Discussion .::. Size~: 84.38 KBSep 26 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Kate has a #Zen-like coding extension. awesome! !kdeSep 26 20:41
schestowitzyes, seen thatSep 26 20:41
schestowitzThey backtrackedSep 26 20:41
hazzyWhich link are you talking about?Sep 26 20:41
schestowitzIE9Sep 26 20:42
hazzyAh, yeahSep 26 20:42
schestowitzTHey say it won't be Vista7-onlySep 26 20:42
hazzyOh, wellSep 26 20:42
schestowitzhttp://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/9/25/microsoft-biggest-google-rival-says-ceo/Sep 26 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Is Biggest Google Rival Says CEO - ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 46.98 KBSep 26 20:42
schestowitzThe Microsoft blogs are all giddy about itSep 26 20:42
hazzyThey actually say it will only be available for Vista 7 SP1Sep 26 20:42
schestowitzAfter Microsoft had swallowed Yahoo1Sep 26 20:42
schestowitzhazzy: they did, yezSep 26 20:42
schestowitz*yesSep 26 20:43
hazzyHahaSep 26 20:43
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/22/ie_architect_jumps_ship_for_google/Sep 26 20:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IE captain flees Microsoft for Google • The Register .::. Size~: 23.69 KBSep 26 20:43
schestowitzHard time thereSep 26 20:43
schestowitzAnother vice president is leavingSep 26 20:43
schestowitzI will write about it tomorrowSep 26 20:43
schestowitzHe's from the mobile unitSep 26 20:43
hazzyHahaSep 26 20:43
schestowitzSecond this monthSep 26 20:43
schestowitzBut they move to Yahoo! many of themSep 26 20:44
hazzyOh yeah, I was gonna askSep 26 20:44
schestowitzBuilidng  a mini-Microsoft Fort thereSep 26 20:44
hazzyschestowitz: Why does Microsoft want to eliminate the AV business?Sep 26 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ksaver: Pinguy OS: an out-of-the-box working operating system for everyone: http://pinguy-os.sourceforge.net/ !Linux #OSSep 26 20:44
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schestowitzI am less worried about MicrosoftSep 26 20:45
schestowitzThe people who made itSep 26 20:45
schestowitzTraul Allen and BillG are ruining the world with patents nowSep 26 20:45
schestowitzBillG ruins many things like research and educationSep 26 20:45
schestowitzHe monopoilises theseSep 26 20:45
schestowitzBusinessman... making more money, gaining power... making himself like Charity CandymanSep 26 20:46
schestowitzhttp://www.ifreshnews.com/google-loses-control-over-android/3340Sep 26 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google loses control over Android | iFreshNews .::. Size~: 54.65 KBSep 26 20:46
schestowitzLosing control??Sep 26 20:46
schestowitzIt's open sourceSep 26 20:46
schestowitzIt sells BECAUSE they have no total controlSep 26 20:46
schestowitzhttp://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/Half-billion-people-will-use-Google-Android-by-2015/articleshow/6624228.cmsSep 26 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Half billion people will use Google Android by 2015 - The Economic Times .::. Size~: 63.37 KBSep 26 20:47
hazzyHaha: http://rolfi-tech.com/?p=735Sep 26 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft gives money for Bing-use | r0lfi-tech.com .::. Size~: 20.58 KBSep 26 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Half billion people will use Google Android by http://ur1.ca/1s2s3 2015 Let's hope restrictions go awaySep 26 20:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Half billion people will use Google Android by 2015 - The Economic Times .::. Size~: 63.37 KBSep 26 20:48
schestowitzMicrosoft has axed another product just nowSep 26 20:48
schestowitzMiloSep 26 20:48
hazzyNever heard of thatSep 26 20:48
schestowitzMaybe I'll do an article shortly, but it's Sunday, so I draft a bitSep 26 20:48
schestowitzhazzy: about giving moneySep 26 20:49
schestowitzIt's a scamSep 26 20:49
schestowitzBribeSep 26 20:49
schestowitzThey paint it as "chairty"Sep 26 20:49
hazzyYesSep 26 20:49
schestowitzIt's the trickSep 26 20:49
schestowitzSo that people don't mock itSep 26 20:49
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/24/investments-as-philanthropy/Sep 26 20:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Bribes and Tax Avoidance | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.04 KBSep 26 20:49
schestowitzhttp://www.mediaweek.com/mw/content_display/news/digital-downloads/search/e3ie4f24b85cbd4c811a936ecaabf6b4effSep 26 20:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GroupM: Search Prices to Spike .::. Size~: 58.43 KBSep 26 20:51
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-tries-again-with-another-search-rewards-program/7457Sep 26 20:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft tries again with another search-rewards program | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 125.33 KBSep 26 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] After coding your business into the IE6 jail, why would you recode it for the IE9 jail? Do MS expect you to have a lobotomy? !money-treeSep 26 20:51
gnufreexIt seems tha Milo is "virutal human from Microsoft"Sep 26 20:51
gnufreexThe just killed a personSep 26 20:51
gnufreexThe are murderers.Sep 26 20:51
schestowitzhttp://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/4527395Sep 26 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft (MSFT) Offering Indicates Continued Pessimism | iStockAnalyst.com .::. Size~: 56.95 KBSep 26 20:52
hazzyI wonder if they'll put IE9 on Vista Phone 7Sep 26 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The 'future' of the Web [IMG] http://crap.fi/images/archive/7435.jpgSep 26 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Leaked Emails Reveal Profits of Anti-Piracy Cash Scheme - http://bit.ly/aKs7Co more depressing details #acslawSep 26 20:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Leaked Emails Reveal Profits of Anti-Piracy Cash Scheme | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 107.13 KBSep 26 20:54
gnufreexhttp://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=266566&skip=yesSep 26 20:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feature: Milo's dead. And I killed him. - ComputerAndVideoGames.com .::. Size~: 233.87 KBSep 26 20:54
gnufreexThis milo dude was a kid. How they could kill a kid? Oh wait... it's just bussiness. LOLSep 26 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Stupid enough to use !Windows in critical systems, ya deserve what ya get http://bbc.in/dm2vPlSep 26 20:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Stuxnet worm hits Iran nuclear plant staff computers .::. Size~: 52.43 KBSep 26 20:56
hazzyhttp://www.winextra.com/archives/the-new-zune-marketplace-is-still-a-stupid-mess/Sep 26 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The new Zune Marketplace is still a stupid mess | winextra .::. Size~: 55.35 KBSep 26 20:57
hazzyhttp://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2010/09/22/microsoft-announces-23-percent-dividend-increase/Sep 26 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft announces 23 percent dividend increase. .::. Size~: 92.19 KBSep 26 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] expect a lot of PR stories disguised as "news" generated by passengers of various gravy trains to keep their moving http://bbc.in/9YhI59Sep 26 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - School Food Trust faces quango axe .::. Size~: 53.35 KBSep 26 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Microsoft's #DRM makes your computer vulnerable it seems (verified exploit) http://ping.fm/4JIOqSep 26 21:08
schestowitzhazzy: gnufreex yeah, I got many links by nowSep 26 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft DRM Technology (msnetobj.dll) ActiveX Multiple Remote Vulnerabilities .::. Size~: 13.68 KBSep 26 21:08
schestowitzI need to expand the index of dead products... or..children? GASPSep 26 21:08
hazzyHaha, I'll see what I can dig upSep 26 21:08
schestowitzANyway, bad financial news tooSep 26 21:08
schestowitzTechrights need to rework the watchlistSep 26 21:08
schestowitzMicrosoft decreases in impact as foe of FreedomSep 26 21:09
schestowitzOracle is a b**** tooSep 26 21:09
hazzyThe dividend increaase was bad financial newsSep 26 21:12
schestowitzyesSep 26 21:12
schestowitzhttp://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle/articleid/4524177Sep 26 21:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) - Q1 2011 Earnings Preview | iStockAnalyst.com .::. Size~: 57.45 KBSep 26 21:12
schestowitzIt won't be pretty, they lower expectationsSep 26 21:13
schestowitzThen they'll 'beat' themSep 26 21:13
schestowitzhttp://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2012976110_microsoftraisesdividendoffersdebt.htmlSep 26 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Pri0 | Microsoft raises dividend, offers debt | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 50.19 KBSep 26 21:15
schestowitzMicrosoft-friendly pressSep 26 21:15
hazzyhttp://www.techandfinance.com/index.php?/site/comments/microsoft_profits/Sep 26 21:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.schaeffersresearch.com/marketcenters/optionscenter/content/microsoft+corporation+falls+on+dividend+disappointment+-+but+call+players+bet+on+a+rebound/default.aspx?ID=102457Sep 26 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Corporation Falls on Dividend Disappointment - But Call Players Bet on a Rebound .::. Size~: 92.99 KBSep 26 21:16
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schestowitzhttp://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-citigroup-does-not-believe-microsofts-dividend-yield-will-/2010/09/20/5016787.htmSep 26 21:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Citigroup Does Not Believe Microsoft's Dividend Yield Will Double As Soon As Some Expect (C,MSFT) .::. Size~: 87.86 KBSep 26 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Synchronize your #BlackBerry with !Ubuntu | LabTu Tech | News | Social Media | Linux | blogger http://ow.ly/2K6AhSep 26 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Synchronize your BlackBerry with Ubuntu | LabTu Tech | News | Social Media | Linux | blogger .::. Size~: 60.7 KBSep 26 21:18
schestowitzHmmm... does anyone here think we should explore Apple more closely too?Sep 26 21:19
schestowitzOracle? Amazon maybe?Sep 26 21:19
schestowitzMicrosoft is a wasteland nowSep 26 21:19
jweyrich'lo.Sep 26 21:19
hazzyOracle, perhapsSep 26 21:19
schestowitzA lot of the rogue activity moved to the Gates Fund [sic]Sep 26 21:19
hazzyHiSep 26 21:19
MinceRthere's a lot to explore about crApple, certainlySep 26 21:19
MinceRprobably about oracle tooSep 26 21:19
schestowitzMinceR: but is it worth the time?Sep 26 21:19
schestowitzNExt week we have an exclusiveSep 26 21:20
schestowitzMajor story under embargoSep 26 21:20
hazzyApple seems to only have one market locked down, and competition is comingSep 26 21:20
MinceRthere's too much crApple fanboyism going on, even from canonical -- so perhaps yesSep 26 21:20
jweyrichcanonical is trash.Sep 26 21:20
MinceRsure, but there's a lot of hype about themSep 26 21:21
MinceRthey seem to have too much power alreadySep 26 21:21
jweyrichthey always had, it was the right move after thawtteSep 26 21:22
hazzyhttp://www.fool.com/investing/general/2010/09/22/is-oracle-vying-to-acquire-hp.aspxSep 26 21:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Oracle Vying to Acquire HP? (HPQ, ORCL) .::. Size~: 60.55 KBSep 26 21:23
jweyrichthawte*Sep 26 21:23
hazzyhttp://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_16165267?source=rss&nclick_check=1Sep 26 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Biz Break: Has Larry Ellison put Intel rival AMD on Oracle's shopping list? - San Jose Mercury News .::. Size~: 71.46 KBSep 26 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Terrorism used as an excuse (yet again) http://ur1.ca/1s32eSep 26 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @wikileaks "China WikiLeaks" is unauthorized and insecure. Avoid! If well intentioned they will contact us >>NB (via @tug)Sep 26 21:31
*jweyrich has quit (Quit: no route to hell.)Sep 26 21:31
schestowitzthanksSep 26 21:37
schestowitzI thought ARM at firstSep 26 21:37
schestowitzHe has new SPARC PRODUCTSSep 26 21:37
schestowitzOOPSSep 26 21:37
schestowitzcapSep 26 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] High-Profile, High Damages File-Sharing ‘Conviction’ Was a Farce - http://bit.ly/acjxvw important new info on "key" case #copyrightSep 26 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I Just Love !Star.Trek.Voyager I'm on to season 4 this eveningSep 26 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    High-Profile, High Damages File-Sharing Conviction Was a Farce | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 48.16 KBSep 26 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Learning to Share, Thanks to the Web - http://nyti.ms/cSW3yA oh look, that sharing meme again: http://bit.ly/byDk5q (via @VenessaMiemis)Sep 26 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.02 KBSep 26 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Sharing: Theft or Duty? .::. Size~: 81.05 KBSep 26 21:51
schestowitzhttp://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/09/microsoft_startup_guru_quits_say_he_didnt_want_to_move_to_redmond.htmlSep 26 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft startup guru quits, says Redmond move not appealing .::. Size~: 62.05 KBSep 26 21:51
hazzyI still wonder why Ballmer doesn't just quitSep 26 21:55
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_GoblinHi all....Sep 26 21:58
gnufreexhiSep 26 21:58
hazzyHiSep 26 21:59
_Goblin:)Sep 26 21:59
_GoblinOver the last week, Ive built up quite a list of insecure proxies....very handy for Wordpress blocklists.Sep 26 21:59
_Goblinbeen very busy too...Sep 26 21:59
_Goblinseen the ACS:Law "scandal"Sep 26 22:00
_Goblin?Sep 26 22:00
hazzyNot meSep 26 22:00
_Goblinemail leak sees the issue of speculative invoicing thrown into disarray...Sep 26 22:00
_Goblintheres a plethora of both civil and criminal offences there (IMO)Sep 26 22:01
hazzyOh, waitSep 26 22:01
_Goblinprobably bigger news if you are a UK residentSep 26 22:01
hazzyWas that about the law firm in the UK that sent people infringing notices when they weren't even infringing?Sep 26 22:01
_GoblinyepSep 26 22:01
hazzyOh yesSep 26 22:01
amarsh04this case will test the .uk data protection actSep 26 22:01
_GoblinI think so.Sep 26 22:01
_Goblinbut then again (don't wish to brag) but....Sep 26 22:02
_GoblinI was saying from the beginning that the evidence provided by Mr Crossley did not meet the threshold for "balance of probabilities" in a civil courtSep 26 22:02
_Goblinnow it seems in the email leaks, other law firm agree with my stance.Sep 26 22:02
_GoblinHowever......after the email which said about "scaring" people into paying....Sep 26 22:03
hazzyI'm not clear on all the details, as I don't live in the UKSep 26 22:03
_Goblinthat does IMO fall into the realms of a Harassment Act offence. (Criminal)Sep 26 22:03
_Goblinthen he has Data protection issues....Sep 26 22:04
hazzyWhat is the .uk data protection act?Sep 26 22:04
_Goblinand any civil claim that a "customer" of his has after their details were published on the net.Sep 26 22:04
_GoblinDEBSep 26 22:04
_Goblinor DEASep 26 22:04
_GoblinDigital Economy ActSep 26 22:04
hazzyOh, rightSep 26 22:04
_Goblinbasically the three strikes rule...Sep 26 22:05
_Goblinwhich funnily enough Mr Crossley is on his third "strike" with the SRASep 26 22:05
hazzyHahaSep 26 22:05
_GoblinMonday is going to be interesting for employee's of ACS:Law....Sep 26 22:06
_GoblinIf I worked there, I'd probably phone in sick.Sep 26 22:06
hazzyDid it reach mainstream news in UK?Sep 26 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Small essay on Rewired State, Open Data and future of public service - http://bit.ly/aaW5LM good review of important stuff #opendataSep 26 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Small essay on Rewired State, Open Data and future of public service « Emma Mulqueeny .::. Size~: 35.98 KBSep 26 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @thepublicdomain "Also, #ACTA doesn't change domestic law and we have always been at war with Oceania" http://bit.ly/cngIeb >>ha!Sep 26 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reddit buzz wins the site Microsoft ad bucks http://ur1.ca/1s3gi Reddit sold out. It was too good, so Micorsoft has to ruin itSep 26 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reddit buzz wins the site Microsoft ad bucks | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 46.81 KBSep 26 22:14
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_Goblinsorry hazzy, afk there.....not yet....I'd expect it will be picked up tomorrow.Sep 26 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Flotilla violence unjustified http://ur1.ca/1s3ivSep 26 22:24
hazzyThat's ok, I went afk for a bit tooSep 26 22:32
hazzyI wish US news would pick it up thoughSep 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] PlayOS is !Linux-based and may be heading for Jailbroken PS3s according to Afterdawn http://goo.gl/orLDSep 26 22:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Custom PS3 operating system in the works - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 49.61 KBSep 26 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Are We Entering the Golden Age of Forks? http://tinyurl.com/364j2t2 !linux !foss !fork !gplSep 26 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Project Porting MeeGo OS To Android Phones Starting To Yield Results | Android News, Reviews, Applications, Games, Phones, Devices, Tips, MoSep 26 22:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are We Entering the Golden Age of Forks? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 58.17 KBSep 26 22:39
MinceRgnSep 26 22:49
hazzyNightSep 26 22:49
schestowitzHey, _GoblinSep 26 22:54
schestowitzBeen quiet here today, done other things...Sep 26 22:54
schestowitzI hope the trolling is over in your site]Sep 26 22:54
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_Goblinschestowitz: Hi Roy...Sep 26 23:04
_Goblinschestowitz: sorry was afk there.Sep 26 23:04
schestowitzI' catching up a bit... since 1pmSep 26 23:05
_Goblinschestowitz: RE: Site, Im blocking all insecure proxies....if people want to post, they can...just no hiding identity!Sep 26 23:05
_Goblinschestowitz: In the case of robo, all his posts will be put into a text file and available for download if people want....that way I keep the freedom of speech policy...Sep 26 23:06
schestowitzOK, goodSep 26 23:06
schestowitzLike protest in designated area?Sep 26 23:06
schestowitzHe's extremely obsceneSep 26 23:07
schestowitzAttacks your family, tooSep 26 23:07
schestowitzIt's not a trollSep 26 23:07
_Goblinschestowitz: I think its a reasonable compromise since he is vulgar and racist and offends readers...Sep 26 23:07
schestowitzIt's what's called a net stalkker or bullySep 26 23:07
_GoblinHe hasn't bullied me though...Sep 26 23:07
schestowitzOffending readers it the pointSep 26 23:07
schestowitzThat's how old Slashdot diedSep 26 23:07
_GoblinIt is quite surprising the volume of hate he sent.Sep 26 23:07
schestowitzPeople fear commentingSep 26 23:07
schestowitzCause they are surrounded by hostile crowdSep 26 23:08
_Goblin187 vulgar posts in about 1 weekSep 26 23:08
schestowitzYou fed himSep 26 23:08
schestowitzAnd gave it a warm homeSep 26 23:08
schestowitzSo it pissed on itSep 26 23:08
schestowitzAnd asked for toilet paperSep 26 23:08
_Goblinbut then a courtesy in response is all I expect.Sep 26 23:08
schestowitzAnd now he turned it into limited speech zoneSep 26 23:09
schestowitzSo he flags youSep 26 23:09
_Goblinthe other chap Richard, he may not present his allegations properly, but at least he remains relatively polite.Sep 26 23:09
schestowitzhttp://learnbyexamples.org/Sep 26 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Learning by Examples .::. Size~: 50.22 KBSep 26 23:09
_Goblinschestowitz: Openbytes is not limited speech....its only his comments which are relocated...they are still available.Sep 26 23:09
schestowitzIn our case, people were threatenedSep 26 23:09
schestowitzNot my point, _GoblinSep 26 23:10
gnufreexschestowitz: What did you do with trolls like "eet". How did you get rid of him? I read old posts, he was really determined to troll.Sep 26 23:10
gnufreexCan't beSep 26 23:10
schestowitzWhen you claim opening to views the troll will show up and claim you censorSep 26 23:10
gnufreexhe just gave upSep 26 23:10
schestowitzAfter he had attacked the s* out of you to do soSep 26 23:10
schestowitzThat's also what they did in GroklawSep 26 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm considering allowing people to sign up on my blogSep 26 23:11
_Goblinwell his attacks seem to have stopped and I have a very comprehensive list of insecure proxies which go straight into the spam folder.Sep 26 23:11
_GoblinI'll publish next month.Sep 26 23:11
schestowitz_Goblin: here's what I learnedSep 26 23:12
schestowitzLast year we got like 10 times more comments, but many were abusive tooSep 26 23:13
schestowitzSo you should never feed the trollsSep 26 23:13
schestowitzMake it know that it's a principleSep 26 23:13
schestowitzANd don't bother checking/reading eitherSep 26 23:13
schestowitzI don'tSep 26 23:13
schestowitzAnd focus your effort on workSep 26 23:13
schestowitzNot damage control from trollsSep 26 23:13
schestowitzI can produce more posts and do better research by culling out the fightsSep 26 23:13
schestowitzAnd I enjoy it a lot moreSep 26 23:14
_Goblinbut then has not robo's actions shown that I have the moral highground?  Did I not make the point that I don't need to resort to such behaviour? and most importantly does Robo's actions not ask the question, why would someone do this?Sep 26 23:14
schestowitzHad you written posts rather than fed the trolls, many more Linux reviews would be produced and trolls given upSep 26 23:14
_GoblinI think Robo has served well....the only pro-MS argument is a vulgar one.Sep 26 23:14
schestowitz_Goblin: you gave the troll what it wantedSep 26 23:14
_Goblinand I got what I wanted.Sep 26 23:14
schestowitzI made the mistake of writing posts on trolling issuesSep 26 23:14
schestowitzThat's what they wantSep 26 23:15
schestowitzThey hate it most when they are thrown aside quietly, in your case the text bucketSep 26 23:15
_GoblinI showed that a detractor of mine could not behave like an adult and would not take responsibility for their posts.Sep 26 23:15
schestowitzThey'll move on to another Linux advocacy blogSep 26 23:15
schestowitzOr COLA or whateverSep 26 23:15
schestowitzTrolls don't undersatdn reasonSep 26 23:15
_Goblindoesn't matterSep 26 23:15
_Goblinthe average reader does.Sep 26 23:16
schestowitzReplying to them politely is like giving candy to a black bearSep 26 23:16
schestowitzIt'll eat you/maul you for another candySep 26 23:16
schestowitz_Goblin: the average reader needn't bother with itSep 26 23:16
schestowitzThey are there to read postsSep 26 23:16
_GoblinIve built a repution of being "too polite" to the trolls....for the casual reader to OB, how do you think that portrays FOSS and a Linux opinion?Sep 26 23:16
schestowitzNot a cockfight in the commentsSep 26 23:16
schestowitzDon't entertain confrontationSep 26 23:16
schestowitzCause then your site becomes about peopleSep 26 23:16
schestowitzAnd not idead/eventsSep 26 23:17
schestowitz(ideasSep 26 23:17
_Goblinmy site is about people....I try to focus on the average user...Sep 26 23:17
schestowitzYou'll be happier not bothering with confrontationsSep 26 23:18
schestowitzThis also explains to you why I refuse to get involved in other people's fightsSep 26 23:18
_Goblinprobably....but the stats reflect a readerbase that likes themSep 26 23:18
schestowitzI stick with the topicSep 26 23:18
schestowitzThere's oppositionSep 26 23:18
schestowitzLike Microsoft FlorianSep 26 23:18
schestowitzBut these are not trollsSep 26 23:18
schestowitzThat's like Enderle et al.Sep 26 23:18
schestowitzPeople whose opinions vary or are boughtSep 26 23:18
schestowitzYou deal with anonymous scum, "robo*"Sep 26 23:19
_Goblinoh before I forget....Sep 26 23:19
Ender2070learn from meSep 26 23:19
Ender2070don't even talk to trollsSep 26 23:19
schestowitzTrueSep 26 23:19
_Goblinare you following the ACS:Law saga.Sep 26 23:19
schestowitzYeesSep 26 23:19
schestowitzFunnySep 26 23:19
_GoblinyepSep 26 23:19
schestowitzSee the latest links I postedSep 26 23:19
schestowitzHighlights from the mail dumpSep 26 23:19
schestowitzWhere they plan to hurt peopleSep 26 23:19
schestowitzThey ruined some marriages alreadySep 26 23:19
_Goblinand I was right.....threshold of evidence for "balance of probabilities" unlikely to rule in favour of ACS:Law.....Sep 26 23:20
_Goblinwas saying that when the thing started.Sep 26 23:20
gnufreexTrollian Troller can't just be ignored. He shamelesly plug links to his blog on any news site.Sep 26 23:20
schestowitz"Sep 26 23:20
schestowitz– ACS:Law and USCG (of Hurt Locker fame) appear to be cooperatingSep 26 23:20
schestowitz– Crossley boasts that his retained lawyer “literally wrote the SRA rules!”Sep 26 23:20
schestowitz– Crossley accuses Which? of ‘defamation’ and articles designed to “demean” and “denigrate”Sep 26 23:20
schestowitz– Crossley gives veiled warnings to Which? that he could sue them for libelSep 26 23:20
schestowitz– Internal documents reveal intentions to take down Slyck.comSep 26 23:20
schestowitz"Sep 26 23:20
gnufreexHe need o be refuted and humiliated.Sep 26 23:20
Ender2070i got fired from my job cause of one troll but karma worked in my favour and now im in collegeSep 26 23:20
schestowitzhttp://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-anti-piracy-law-firm-torn-apart-by-leaked-emails-100925/Sep 26 23:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    ACS:Law Anti-Piracy Law Firm Torn Apart By Leaked Emails | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 210.47 KBSep 26 23:20
_Goblinnow I am saying that I believe (after reading some of the emails) that ACS:Law may well find themselves with a harassment act offense on their books....Sep 26 23:21
schestowitz_Goblin: if it helps, count trolls as a trophySep 26 23:21
schestowitzThey would not bother with you had you not done something effective against their causesSep 26 23:21
schestowitzBut don't play with the trollsSep 26 23:21
_Goblinschestowitz: I count them more as a means to an end....Im trying to prove that there are people out there that want to silence an alternatives view point....they help me prove that point.Sep 26 23:22
schestowitzFFII: "@fosspatents Yeah, the sheep's clothing looked silly http://bit.ly/9YCOWs #swpat"Sep 26 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Red Hat's financials are an argument for software patents .::. Size~: 57.33 KBSep 26 23:22
schestowitzHeh.  smacking Red Hat to promote software patentsSep 26 23:22
schestowitz"the sheep's clothing looked silly"Sep 26 23:22
schestowitzIt's probably AndreSep 26 23:22
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/25537896208Sep 26 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / FFII e.V.: @fosspatents Yeah, the she ... .::. Size~: 12.47 KBSep 26 23:23
_Goblinschestowitz: To be fair to Andre, he was horribly abused by that troll.  Whilst Andre and I disagree, he didn't deserve that type of treatment from Robo.Sep 26 23:23
Ender2070the trolls are probably reading this right now _GoblinSep 26 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Big Brother: Home Edition http://ur1.ca/1s3xfSep 26 23:24
Ender2070or will tomorrowSep 26 23:24
schestowitz[14:35] <twitter> I'm interested in what else comes from these leaked emails and wonder if the scam will make any of the lawyers more than the going rate.  The RIAA hates to pay people more than they have toSep 26 23:25
_GoblinEnder2070: They do....Ive seen quotes of mine appear...Sep 26 23:25
schestowitzRSep 26 23:25
schestowitzRIAA is a frontSep 26 23:25
schestowitzThe record/recording companies are the playersSep 26 23:25
schestowitzFriday night the anti-piracy law firm ACS:Law accidentally published its entire email archive online, effectively revealing how the company managed to extract over a million dollars (£636,758.22) from alleged file-sharers since its operation started. On average, 30% of the victims who were targeted paid up, and this money was divided between the law firm, the copyright holder and the monitoring company.Sep 26 23:25
schestowitz[14:35] <twitter> I'm interested in what else comes from these leaked emails and wonder if the scam will make any of the lawyers more than the going rate.  The RIAA hates to pay people more than they have toSep 26 23:26
_Goblinthe scam could go even deeper....Sep 26 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Leaked Emails Reveal Profits of Anti-Piracy Cash Scheme - http://bit.ly/aKs7Co more depressing details #acsoutlawSep 26 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Leaked Emails Reveal Profits of Anti-Piracy Cash Scheme | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 113.41 KBSep 26 23:26
_Goblinimagine you are a small time movie company...Sep 26 23:26
schestowitzMaybe good for themSep 26 23:26
_Goblinyou leak your film to P2p....then employ ACS to track.Sep 26 23:26
_Goblinseems like a good way of selling an unsellable movie.Sep 26 23:27
schestowitzResentful fearful clients won't buySep 26 23:27
_Goblinof course, as I said years ago...these p2p actions will just shift people to Usenet.Sep 26 23:27
_Goblinor xdccSep 26 23:27
_Goblinbrb smokeSep 26 23:28
schestowitz[15:12] <cubevector> I can't believe Zuckerberg is worth 6.9 billion   << Zuckerberg is a billion billion billion atomsSep 26 23:28
schestowitzDesigned to track a billion billion billion billion atomsSep 26 23:29
schestowitz:-)Sep 26 23:29
schestowitzTherein lies the extra valueSep 26 23:29
Ender2070or freenetSep 26 23:30
Ender2070(the darknet)Sep 26 23:31
_GoblinRight....back,,,,btw Ive decided.....I'll never be a gamer.....played Urban Terror for 3 days and in total only managed 4 kills...Sep 26 23:36
_Goblinpeople keep jumping....can't hit them....Sep 26 23:36
hazzyHaha, but that's an FPSSep 26 23:36
hazzyI hate FPSs tooSep 26 23:36
_GoblinI'll stick with Oblivion.Sep 26 23:36
_Goblinand rpgsSep 26 23:36
hazzyYesSep 26 23:36
hazzyGood choiceSep 26 23:36
_Goblinplay at my own pace...I like that.Sep 26 23:36
hazzyMe tooSep 26 23:37
hazzyIf you want a game that I know you'll hateSep 26 23:37
hazzyPlay StarcraftSep 26 23:37
_GoblinI think Im stuck in the 80's...still enjoy a good Mud...Sep 26 23:37
_GoblinStarcaft?  Is that like Frontier?Sep 26 23:37
hazzyStarcraft is like ahSep 26 23:37
hazzyA futuristic version of WarcraftSep 26 23:37
_Goblinah...Sep 26 23:37
Ender2070lolSep 26 23:38
hazzyA real time strategySep 26 23:38
hazzyOrSep 26 23:38
_Goblintalking of which...being playing Glest....very good btwSep 26 23:38
hazzyIf you know of Age of Empires -- same genre as thatSep 26 23:38
Ender2070westnothSep 26 23:38
_Goblintoo slow for me...Sep 26 23:38
_GoblinI did like FreeCiv thoughSep 26 23:38
_Goblinor Civilization.Sep 26 23:38
hazzyYepSep 26 23:39
hazzyGood gamesSep 26 23:39
_GoblinGlest is good though and it looks nice....Sep 26 23:39
hazzyNever heard of GlestSep 26 23:39
_Goblinhttp://glest.org/en/index.phpSep 26 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Glest - The Free Real-Time Strategy Game .::. Size~: 7.78 KBSep 26 23:40
_Goblinit gets a Goblin gold starSep 26 23:40
ThistleWeb"goblin gold star" sounds like some medal of bravery award Sauruman would offerSep 26 23:40
hazzyIs that like a RPG/RTS blend?Sep 26 23:40
_GoblinyepSep 26 23:40
_Goblinthistleweb: yep! and fully deserving....! On a related note have you ever tried to read Silmarillion?Sep 26 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johndrinkwater read or just browsed through ;-)Sep 26 23:41
hazzyYeah looks coolSep 26 23:41
ThistleWeb"tried" is the right word, it's a hefty readSep 26 23:41
_GoblinThistleWeb: yep, it made brief history of time look like a Mr Man book.Sep 26 23:42
ThistleWebit's VERY confusing to have absolutely NO context for anything, and lots of different names for the same thingsSep 26 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc5-git7 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelSep 26 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] These Win 7 phone commercials are actually pretty good! http://ur1.ca/1s40rSep 26 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 28.58 KBSep 26 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AT&T HTC Mondrian ads leak ahead of tipped Oct 21 Windows Phone 7 debut - SlashGear .::. Size~: 48.97 KBSep 26 23:43
_GoblinWhats Windows Phone 7 ;)Sep 26 23:43
_Goblinits not another f'kin Microsoft phone is it?Sep 26 23:43
hazzyIt is.Sep 26 23:43
_Goblinyeah..I was being sarcastic....covered it quite often on OB.Sep 26 23:44
_Goblinthe phone with more features missing than present.Sep 26 23:44
_Goblinand apparently no tethering either now.Sep 26 23:44
_Goblinno copy n paste...Sep 26 23:45
_Goblinno interestSep 26 23:45
_Goblinno hopeSep 26 23:45
hazzyYeah, I was really quite surprised that Microsoft wouldn't put more effort into itSep 26 23:45
hazzyThey're kind of at the point where 'If this doesn't succeed, we're giving up'Sep 26 23:45
_GoblinIts Ballmers swan song.....I think if WinMob flops he's out the door...Sep 26 23:45
_Goblinmaybe its a conspiracy by MS staff to make sure it fails.Sep 26 23:45
_Goblinat least then MS offices can have chairs in them again.Sep 26 23:46
hazzyHahaSep 26 23:46
hazzyTheir stock will hit new lowsSep 26 23:46
_GoblinI suffered with Winmob for about a year with the MDA Mail...Windows OEM is one thing, I think MS is in for quite a shock if they think consumers will go out and conciously purchase a MS platform...especially when everyone is flocking to Android.Sep 26 23:47
_Goblinand what "trendy" end-user is going to want a MS logo sticking out of their back pocket?Sep 26 23:47
hazzyAgreedSep 26 23:48
hazzyExpect a payoff of reviewersSep 26 23:49
_GoblinMaybe Microsoft is releasing Win 7 mob just before Halloween to get people in the mood for the horror of it.....here is a leaked ad of Windows Mobile 7....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHUv2ooG38Sep 26 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Halloween III Silver Shamrock Commercial   .::. Size~: 111.93 KBSep 26 23:50
_Goblin(for fans of Halloween 3 Movie) - Windows 7 Mobile....will make your face melt...Sep 26 23:50
hazzyOh, wowSep 26 23:51
hazzyOh, no, I should not have clicked that linkSep 26 23:52
_Goblinits great...Sep 26 23:52
_Goblindamn good film too.Sep 26 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody your NYT link (re sharing, ironically) goes into "no entry" mode again; like @mmasnick would suggest, don't link to it?Sep 26 23:53
schestowitz[21:55] <hazzy> I still wonder why Ballmer doesn't just quit   < he's too eccentric, they'd have to lock him up without the work routineSep 26 23:53
gnufreexWhat is up with those Internet Exploiter 9 ads... it says "compatibe enough"Sep 26 23:53
gnufreexThey don't even flirt with obeying web standars anymore.Sep 26 23:53
_Goblinthat sounds like MS......"its good enough"Sep 26 23:53
schestowitz[22:00] <_Goblin> seen the ACS:Law "scandal"  < the police should raid their officesSep 26 23:53
schestowitzJust cause they wear suits doesn't put them above the lawSep 26 23:54
_Goblinschestowitz: under what power? ;)Sep 26 23:54
schestowitzRacketeering chanrgesSep 26 23:54
schestowitzIntimidationSep 26 23:54
schestowitzConspiracy to extort, etc.Sep 26 23:54
_GoblinI don't think they could justify a sec 18 search under the premise of a harassment act offense.Sep 26 23:54
_Goblinextortion?...interesting point...Sep 26 23:54
schestowitzPolice should serve the people, not always HollywoodSep 26 23:54
gnufreex_Goblin: In fact is says: "Fast enough? Compatible enough? Cool enough?"Sep 26 23:55
_GoblinBloated enough?Sep 26 23:55
gnufreexI could swear tha I also read "good enough" on one adds.Sep 26 23:55
gnufreexThose crap is all over the intewebsSep 26 23:55
_Goblinlol..Sep 26 23:56
gnufreexfor example http://www.zdnet.com/topics/linux?tag=header;header-secSep 26 23:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux | ZDNet .::. Size~: 87.71 KBSep 26 23:56
hazzyActually, I heard that -- still -- as far as standards go, Firefox, Chrome, etc. still blow IE awaySep 26 23:56
hazzyLike IE9 isn't even close stillSep 26 23:56
gnufreexhazzy: Micorosft is disobeying standards on purpse. They want to remove all standards and to put their own. Wich are propriatary.Sep 26 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Pylyglot « Journal of an Open Sourcee http://ow.ly/2K8LBSep 26 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Custom PS3 operating system in the works http://ur1.ca/1s438 "PlayOS is Linux-based" > pronounced playaz'? :-)Sep 26 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pylyglot «  Journal of an Open Sourcee .::. Size~: 32.97 KBSep 26 23:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Custom PS3 operating system in the works - AfterDawn .::. Size~: 49.58 KBSep 26 23:58
hazzyBecause they realized that Silverlight doesn't work for that?Sep 26 23:58
_GoblinI think there are more sites that have linked to Openbytes than use Silverlight... ;)Sep 26 23:58
_Goblineven Channel 4 didn't want it...Sep 26 23:59
_Goblinnow thats insulting.Sep 26 23:59

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