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_Goblinoh..Sep 30 00:04
_Goblina disconnection...Sep 30 00:04
schestowitzis dacosta on twitter?Sep 30 00:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux in Schools http://ur1.ca/1udn2 "Linux is no longer a fringe operating system, but has widespread adoption..."Sep 30 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux in Schools : Greg Laden's Blog .::. Size~: 79.34 KBSep 30 00:10
_Goblinschestowitz: yeah..Sep 30 00:10
_Goblinschestowitz: adacostaSep 30 00:11
oiaohmSometimes being +10 is a buggerSep 30 00:11
oiaohmI am waiting for the simtel releaseSep 30 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] RT @fsf Explaining the !fsf position on #projectharmony -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/project-harmony !gnu !lp #licensing #notan ...Sep 30 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Linux in Schools http://ur1.ca/1udn2 "Linux is no longer a fringe operating system, but has widespread adoption..."Sep 30 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The FSF and Project Harmony — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.07 KBSep 30 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux in Schools : Greg Laden's Blog .::. Size~: 79.34 KBSep 30 00:13
cubevector"Here at Weta Digital we use Kubuntu Linux"Sep 30 00:13
cubevectorinterestingSep 30 00:13
oiaohmNot that strange.Sep 30 00:15
oiaohmHave you ever seen what 3d rendering engines for movies do to windows.  cubevectorSep 30 00:16
cubevectoroiaohm, nopeSep 30 00:16
oiaohmWindows has a life span of about 4 weeksSep 30 00:16
oiaohmBefore its terminal.Sep 30 00:16
oiaohmdrive fragmentation like you have never seen.Sep 30 00:17
oiaohmleading to registry fragmentation like you have never seen.Sep 30 00:17
oiaohmremember all rendering engines created tones and tones of temp and production files.Sep 30 00:17
cubevectorstuff like this makes me wonder why people use windows at allSep 30 00:18
oiaohmI have seen up to 60% NTFS fragmentation caused in 4 weeks.Sep 30 00:18
oiaohmBy rendering engines.Sep 30 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram RIM: We don't need 200 fart apps for App World success http://ur1.ca/1uczt > !MeeGo made similar claimsSep 30 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RIM: We don't need 200 fart apps for App World success - Recombu .::. Size~: 39.88 KBSep 30 00:18
oiaohmWorse is when you think windows updates get appled while the rendering engine is running.Sep 30 00:18
oiaohmSo all updated files the OS is using also end up fragmented.Sep 30 00:19
schestowitzOpenRA is Mono based?Sep 30 00:19
oiaohmSo the windows machine starts showing major performance problems in 4 week.sSep 30 00:19
schestowitzDamnSep 30 00:19
oiaohmDoes not matter I play TA3d and spring any how schestowitzSep 30 00:21
schestowitzNo... I put this in daily linksSep 30 00:21
schestowitzSo linked to Mono apps, unawareSep 30 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz it'd be funnier if it was hairdressers instead of schoolsSep 30 00:23
oiaohmhttp://www.steel-storm.com/  This is a interesting startup.  schestowitzSep 30 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steel Storm, an indie top-down arcade shooter. SP, DM and COOP! Linux, Mac and Win platforms. .::. Size~: 6.95 KBSep 30 00:23
oiaohmThey are seeing of the ID model with straight up source code release will work to fund them schestowitzSep 30 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♺ @fsf Explaining the fsf position on #projectharmony -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/project-harmony #notanendorsementSep 30 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The FSF and Project Harmony — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.07 KBSep 30 00:31
_Goblinoiaohm: its a 288mb download, but it does look rather good.Sep 30 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♻ @bkuhn Don't just sign that © form! Ask some questions & make reasonable requests first! @rms & fsf have good suggestions ur1.ca/1ubirSep 30 00:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/9/2010: !GNOME 2.32, !Fedora 14 Analyses http://techrights.org/2010/09/29/gnome-2-32/ !techrightsSep 30 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] How to install driver for Atheros AR8132 Ethernet interface in RHEL/CentOS 5 http://ht.ly/2M1lASep 30 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Ever notice that more often than not, Arch Linux users are more helpful no matter what distro you use?Sep 30 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/networking/158620-installing-network-card-problem.html .::. Size~: 4.08 KBSep 30 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] L.A. Times photography blog http://ht.ly/2M1to is "powered by WordPress VIP," same back-end as new KCBS/KCAL site http://ht.ly/2M1u2Sep 30 01:01
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hazzyIsn't Microsoft paying off Gartner?Sep 30 01:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Clearwire throttling home WiMax users: http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/29/clearwire-throttling-at-home-wimax-users/ via @jarober@twitter.comSep 30 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Is Red Hat Just Too Red Hot?" btw, it should be fedoraproject.org as well. http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056 #fbSep 30 01:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Clearwire throttling at-home WiMAX users? -- Engadget .::. Size~: 62.87 KBSep 30 01:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mad Money's Jim Cramer: Is Red Hat Just Too Red Hot?  - CNBC .::. Size~: 125.11 KBSep 30 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] via @webupd8@twitter.com Red Hat responds to USPTO: http://2tu.us/2qa3Sep 30 01:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat News | Red Hat Responds to U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Request for Guidance on Bilski .::. Size~: 38.26 KBSep 30 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] lol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZgSep 30 01:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Unix Hair Dryer - http://unixelec.en.ec21.com/Hair_Dryer_for_Personal_Use--416076_946249.htmlSep 30 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccaustralia/@ccaustralia] #CCSnapshot: The @Greens encourage syndication and reuse of greens.org.au and greensmps.org.au content by licensing them #CCBYSASep 30 01:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc6-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelSep 30 01:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for September 30, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/406702/rssSep 30 02:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The original 1994 Pentium FDIV bug email http://ur1.ca/1ugo7Sep 30 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Grand Challenges for Engineering - are there smaller chunks that can be worked on my small groups? http://www.engineeringchallenges.org/ #fbSep 30 02:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Earth-Like Planet Can Sustain Life http://ur1.ca/1ugpo !scienceSep 30 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sameerverma Interesting video of Linus Torvalds and Jeremy Allison talking about Sinclair QL and assembler at the Sao Paulo Zoo :-) ...Sep 30 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rejon Just to reiterate, Open APIs is FAUXPEN (fake open). Its a step in the right direction, but supports walled gardening #ncc2010Sep 30 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @linuxfoundation you will need to disconnect and recollect. Oauth problem rememberSep 30 03:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Installed LibreOffice on my F13 x64 machine. RPM installs into /opt/libreoffice3/. Needs more UI finish ala existing oo.o. #fbSep 30 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Trying to find an opportunity to use Google Moderator - http://www.google.com/moderator/. #fbSep 30 04:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] best of luck to Libre Office, as Oracle's ship of F/OSS sinks faster and faster ... though somehow i doubt they care.Sep 30 04:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] though i have to say .. "Document Foundation"? really? contender for "Poor Foundation Name Of The Year", subcategory "Vague and Misleading"Sep 30 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] and why does the steering committee and founding member list have only two developers? (inc one guy who worked on the KDE integration)Sep 30 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] are there really that few developers left, or are the local(ization) teams for OO.o the managerially savvy ones?Sep 30 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Wow...no updates to install on my !ubuntu 10.10 beta, I think the RC comes out tomorrow.Sep 30 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] What a great photo! http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html #fbSep 30 05:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  APOD: 2010 September 29 - An Airplane in Front of the Moon  .::. Size~: 3.67 KBSep 30 05:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @haris New Study Shows Texting Bans May Make Roads Even More Dangerous - http://ur1.ca/1uhoaSep 30 05:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Study Shows Texting Bans May Make Roads Even More Dangerous | Techdirt .::. Size~: 146.84 KBSep 30 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Check out Stellarium! apt:stellariumSep 30 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20100930 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelSep 30 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Used To Love U by John Legend from Get Lifted !lastfmSep 30 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "... Bob Barker had insisted the show be vegetarian; no fur, no meat." Bob Barker is like Fred Rogers and John Risbey (not famous).Sep 30 06:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] e.g. people from a past generation whom i look at go, "Wow." some people truly deserve all the fame, all the glory, all the $ they get.Sep 30 06:18
MinceRgeekingsSep 30 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] MysteryGuitarMan does Bohemian Rhapsody http://ur1.ca/1ulx0Sep 30 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @schestowitz Sorry :-) i'm my own host, I enjoy administrating my mail/web server etc. All on top on !fedora with !KVM on my !xeron serverSep 30 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] At work getting ready to roll a tons of laptops. Sorry did I say laptops, I ment toshibasSep 30 07:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many #Windows #Servers Being Abandoned; Minnesota Resorts to Giving #Microsoft Its Data http://ur1.ca/1um9y #Minnesota #failures #emailSep 30 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how do you add a reason to reportspammer.py? it only take the first word and sendsSep 30 07:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Many Windows Servers Being Abandoned; Minnesota Goes the Opposite Direction by Giving Microsoft Its Data | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.99 KBSep 30 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I-guess-I-could-just-list-the-reason-as-1-long-word-although-this-is-very-unnatural-to-typeSep 30 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dance Fortress 2 http://ur1.ca/1un7bSep 30 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not So Keen on KIN2K (Vista Phone 7) and Why #Windows Will No Longer Matter in a Mobile Future http://ur1.ca/1und1Sep 30 07:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Enjoying some arabic coffee.Sep 30 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] 12-hour-days coupled with moving house. I-am-fucked!Sep 30 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Spain had a general strike yesterday. Didn't have as much impact as expected. The crisis has taken its toll and people have to work.Sep 30 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Happy Birthday to The Flinstones - 50 Today. Hoping they'll have a Yabbadoo time ;-)Sep 30 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Easy & Effective Spammer Reporting On Identi.ca http://bit.ly/aTfkTtSep 30 08:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Easy & Effective Spammer Reporting On Identi.ca | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 17.54 KBSep 30 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "This week I ha' been mostly eatin'...." (jesse's diets) Coffee, cigarettes, coke and anything with sugar. Need energy to get to Friday.Sep 30 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Sitting at OWF, @galoppini and @maslett on either side, by coincidence. Still a small world... All here! ;-)Sep 30 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Sighting From Oktoberfest: The below logo (intentionally blurred for now) was spotted at Oktoberfest... What is ... http://bit.ly/biOzYDSep 30 08:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice Has the Potential to Altogether Replace #Oracle OpenOffice.org (OOOo) http://ur1.ca/1uoxy #odf !fsSep 30 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #OpenShot bug suggests UI redesign http://goo.gl/6x1ISep 30 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I really hope !LibreOffice lives up to the promise. It's long overdue for a free (libre) overhaul and escape from one ownerSep 30 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C's Editor/Browser http://ping.fm/u9QJU RT @jolutorr: Testing "Amaya" the free w3c xhtml editor. So far easier than Kompozer.Sep 30 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Aaron Toponce: Twitter and !Identica support with #Bitlbee http://goo.gl/xCqSSep 30 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Greg Grossmeier: Novacut – FLOSS ideals for Video editing http://goo.gl/7Z22Sep 30 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Interesting read and !Flattr. http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-appeal-day-2-lost-sales-100929/ !tpbSep 30 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Sintel (free fantasy film from the Blender foundation) will be released online today (september 30): http://goo.gl/7Sp2Sep 30 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] James Westby: #Couchapp Walkthrough: Part 2: The couchapp tool http://goo.gl/ZxOhSep 30 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: Good morning! I was surprised to see Docky tips in the tutorials section.Sep 30 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera I always confuse awn and docky for some reason (awn added hooks). You're right, it's Mono.Sep 30 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] At #OWF at the private info session with @evan in the panel.Sep 30 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Lots of Microsoft people at #OWF trying to sell their definition of Open Source and Open Standards to journalists.Sep 30 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #LibreOffice and the Document Foundation are for sure a hot topic today here at #OWFSep 30 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] LibreOffice, OpenOffice without Oracle: http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ #fork #betaSep 30 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] OpenOffice extensions all compatible with new LibreOffice: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/ListSep 30 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Can we have a "What would Fred Flinstone do?" day ? Could be fun :-)Sep 30 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a giveaway for spammers is subscribing to other spammers...well, to your other accounts. It's like leaving a trail to follow, and reportSep 30 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Downloading LibreOffice for !debian !linux #Oracle #bye http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/Sep 30 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @richslxh: I had just started to download it (coming in at 10KB/sec) your link was most welcome and much fasterSep 30 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] mass joining of groups as soon as you join is also a suspicious action, not proof, but suspiciousSep 30 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @satipera I already downloaded the entire (144Mb) file then found the rpm's. I know I can alien them, but prefer source or debs.Sep 30 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Increased Opposition to Bill Gates/Microsoft Exploitation of Schools, Shameless #PR Explained http://ur1.ca/1urya #school #reformSep 30 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Some good stuff and explanations by Eben Moglen on why project #Harmony is important and what should not be #OWFSep 30 11:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Stuxnet worm can reinfect PC even after disinfection: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/28/stuxnet_resurrection_ability/ #security !linuxSep 30 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Heka Linux looks sweet! http://hekalinux.org !debian !windowmaker !heka !linuxSep 30 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Vice President Becomes VMB_ware Channel Director Amid Acquisition Plans, IDG Propaganda Begins http://ur1.ca/1ut2u #vmwareSep 30 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana link?Sep 30 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] We now have over 1,700 signatures for our petition to an independent foundation - keep on signing! http://ur1.ca/1utq5Sep 30 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Some more stats: Over 100 GB website traffic per day, 1500 announce subscribers, 300 discuss subscribers, 500 followers. Thanks for support!Sep 30 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Robert Chew signing his book! #fb http://ur1.ca/1uttkSep 30 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] TDF members Sophie Gautier, Charles Schulz and Italo Vignoli can be met in person at OWF Paris. #owfSep 30 12:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Crash Disrupts Campus and British Department for Health Dumps Novell http://ur1.ca/1utxi #nhs #suse #vmware #amazonSep 30 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 5 of the Best Free Linux Comic Book Viewers - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site http://ping.fm/m4mNSSep 30 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Life-sized robotic android running !Android http://ping.fm/jAzfmSep 30 12:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Inkscape: Inkscape is finalist of !OpenSource Awards 2010 http://ping.fm/DtutRSep 30 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @schaueho Haha, !debian deals with the locust dependency: http://is.gd/fC1U7 #xkcdSep 30 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @forteller FFS! A federal appeals court has ruled US corporations can no longer be sued for human rights violations abroad http://red ...Sep 30 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Locusts - jwiltshire.org.uk .::. Size~: 14.39 KBSep 30 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Internet Access And Human Rights Highlighted Alongside UN Human Rights Council http://ur1.ca/1uu48 [via @ffii ]Sep 30 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Discussing identity, privacy and cultural differences at #OWF.Sep 30 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It's really busy here at #OWF - preparing for my panel on OpenCloud.Sep 30 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jamie_love It is depressing they [ #ACTA ] are just sending out the same letter to everyone, without responding to the contents.Sep 30 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder if #Oracel expected, or even wanted, the !LibreOffice split? They must have known it would happen? Offloading "awkward" devs?Sep 30 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir The shrillest blog in the open source/open standards space has no facility for comments. This doesn't pass the sniff test.Sep 30 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As pointed out by @rcweir , what seems like a paid-for "campaigner" (lobbyist) from Microsoft denied all comments after being exposed thereSep 30 12:43
schestowitz_loghttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/25883755706 " FFII: Q: Why does a lobbyist attack FFII? A: Because FFII is not important. http://lwn.net/Articles/407202/ "Sep 30 12:44
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: TRIPs obligations certainly mattered in the EU [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 18.45 KBSep 30 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir Damn, my top-secret master plan regarding #ODF has been leaked http://yfrog.com/5jw81ejSep 30 12:46
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schestowitzzoobab: what's this about? http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/25889450310 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25889802270Sep 30 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Want to support The Document Foundation? You can make a donation to help our efforts here http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/Sep 30 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @FFII So basically, the Microsoft MVP says there is an IBM scandal but he can't say anything abut it (PS - OOXML is a "superb standard")Sep 30 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Miguel works for Microsoft... is using him as a tool to break the open source community apart." -Stephane Rodriguez http://ur1.ca/1uuksSep 30 12:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Once More unto the Breach: Microsoft's Failures with the OOXML Standard .::. Size~: 61.17 KBSep 30 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UK.gov refines pub sector software code, database re-use licence http://ping.fm/HyHJ5Sep 30 13:00
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schestowitz_loghttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25970396389 "In Digital Agenda welcome speech Mrs. Kroes cites FRAND-based 3G as example of pro-innovative standard. http://bit.ly/9viLCI"Sep 30 13:02
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schestowitz_logLOLSep 30 13:02
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schestowitzHe still pretends to be anti-RAND?Sep 30 13:02
schestowitzThis lobbyist no longer pretendsSep 30 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft persons.. take a pride not to be on their payroll. (DeIcaza told me in the past that he’s rich)." -Rodriguez http://ur1.ca/1uunhSep 30 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Interested in free video formats? We need your help! http://ping.fm/eVhSSSep 30 13:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quick Mention: OOXML/GNOME Podcast Finally Online, Text Summary Posted | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.57 KBSep 30 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu 10.10 #Maverick #Meerkat Release Candidate Is Out - See What's New! http://ping.fm/CqE9sSep 30 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Microsoft's Failures with the #OOXML Standard http://goo.gl/UamPSep 30 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Once More unto the Breach: Microsoft's Failures with the OOXML Standard .::. Size~: 61.17 KBSep 30 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] new kde edu logo is fantastic. reminds me how so much of what KDE comes up with rocks my socks. ++enjoyable to be part of sth so great :)Sep 30 13:10
schestowitz[01:24] <hazzy> Isn't Microsoft paying off Gartner?Sep 30 13:16
schestowitzYes, but Gates as wellSep 30 13:16
schestowitzAnd EllisonSep 30 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Slate: We cover Apple & Google the most because its the most innovative company. Apple, really?? More than IBM, VMWare? http://bit.ly/buSaXJSep 30 13:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I won't stop writing about Apple and Google. - By Farhad Manjoo - Slate Magazine         .::. Size~: 53.2 KBSep 30 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The History of Acronyms (Intelligent Life): http://bit.ly/dxTQjFSep 30 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rejon Just to reiterate, Open APIs is FAUXPEN (fake open). Its a step in the right direction, but supports walled gardening #ncc2010Sep 30 13:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: THE MARCH OF THE ACRONYM | More Intelligent Life .::. Size~: 26.91 KBSep 30 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc6-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelSep 30 13:21
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zoobabjust trollsSep 30 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram yes, #Stellarium is lots of funSep 30 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @aseigo being "vegetarian" only counts if the person "counts".Sep 30 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I discovered an odd thing today. It's almost impossible to downgrade from Office 2007 to Office 2000, even on XP. (Would expect it on Vista7Sep 30 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Office 2000 seems to install but then the menus won't display and it hangs. Worth bearing that one in mind. Definitely a hidden feature :)Sep 30 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Now I've messed up someone else's system and I feel beholden to fix it. The day's not going well :(Sep 30 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Lots of Microsoft people at #OWF trying to sell their definition of Open Source and Open Standards to journalists.Sep 30 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Some people still need to learn that port 80 only is not "free internet". It's free www. I need other stuff as well. #UGent wifiSep 30 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Can I haz working internet connection at #OWF?Sep 30 13:41
schestowitzHi, gnufreexSep 30 13:41
gnufreexHiSep 30 13:42
gnufreexEvery site I visit, I see Florian Mueller's comments.Sep 30 13:42
schestowitz[12:20] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [docufoundation/@docufoundation] Some more stats: Over 100 GB website traffic per daySep 30 13:42
schestowitzThat's not much for Day 1Sep 30 13:42
schestowitzat 150MB per downloadSep 30 13:42
schestowitz~600 downloads?Sep 30 13:42
schestowitzgnufreex: maybe he got a raiseSep 30 13:43
gnufreexlolSep 30 13:43
schestowitzIn Twitter he's busy with new smearsSep 30 13:43
schestowitzBusy attacking Techrights tooSep 30 13:43
gnufreexHe atacked FFII with latest blog post.Sep 30 13:43
schestowitz[12:41] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir The shrillest blog in the open source/open standards space has no facility for comments. This doesn't pass the sniff test.Sep 30 13:44
schestowitz[12:43] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] As pointed out by @rcweir , what seems like a paid-for "campaigner" (lobbyist) from Microsoft denied all comments after being exposed thereSep 30 13:44
gnufreexI just asked him one question on LWNSep 30 13:44
gnufreexhttp://lwn.net/Articles/407719/Sep 30 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meaningful vs. meaningless support from businesses [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.23 KBSep 30 13:44
gnufreexI am really interested what he will saySep 30 13:44
schestowitzLobbyist loves cookiesSep 30 13:44
schestowitzK00kiesSep 30 13:44
schestowitzDon't feed the troll too muchSep 30 13:45
schestowitzNot in a way that lets him spew more crap in LWNSep 30 13:45
schestowitzUse your own platformSep 30 13:45
gnufreexWe need to do damage controlSep 30 13:45
schestowitzHe can respond in itSep 30 13:45
schestowitzHe blocks comments in his own platformsSep 30 13:45
schestowitzThen does Lobby Trourism in Slashdot, LWN, etc.Sep 30 13:45
schestowitzGroklaw banned himSep 30 13:46
schestowitzIt doesn't need poison from Microsoft lobbyistsSep 30 13:46
schestowitzHe left 100s of comments in TechrightsSep 30 13:46
schestowitz<gnufreex> We need to do damage controlSep 30 13:46
schestowitzHe does it already... the damageSep 30 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I will be on stage at #OWF in 15 minutes at auditorium, join our #opencloud track!Sep 30 13:46
schestowitzNow you need to control the lobbyistSep 30 13:46
schestowitzHe annoyed any single group in GNU Linux worldSep 30 13:47
gnufreexI meant, to refute his points, and leave only spamSep 30 13:47
schestowitzHe openly promoted RAND nowSep 30 13:47
*abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.)Sep 30 13:47
schestowitzAnd MonoSep 30 13:47
gnufreexHis spamSep 30 13:47
schestowitz http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25970396389Sep 30 13:47
gnufreexSome people are falling on his crap.Sep 30 13:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / FOSS Patents: In Digital Agenda welcome  ... .::. Size~: 9.42 KBSep 30 13:47
schestowitzMS Florian: "In Digital Agenda welcome speech Mrs. Kroes cites FRAND-based 3G as example of pro-innovative standard."Sep 30 13:47
gnufreexWhat's FRAND based 3G ?Sep 30 13:48
gnufreexI know what's FRANDSep 30 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Searching Cpan for new, cool, !perl module goodness. http://search.cpan.org/ #script #perl #linuxSep 30 13:51
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schestowitzFair RANDSep 30 13:52
schestowitz'Fair'Sep 30 13:52
schestowitzAs in "don't be too cruel with pricing"Sep 30 13:52
gnufreexI know that. But what is 3GSep 30 13:53
gnufreexThere lots of stuf that have 3G badgeSep 30 13:53
schestowitz<gnufreex> Some people are falling on his crap.Sep 30 13:53
schestowitzTo diffuse lobbyists expose themSep 30 13:53
schestowitzNot just their argumentsSep 30 13:53
schestowitzIt worked against ACTSep 30 13:54
schestowitzATLSep 30 13:54
schestowitzThey are widely known to be Microsoft-funded puppetsSep 30 13:54
gnufreexI can't find any real proff...Sep 30 13:54
gnufreexOnly to beat confesion out of himSep 30 13:54
schestowitzYou waste your time arguing with themSep 30 13:54
schestowitzThere's this video I like about arguing with creationists and why you should notSep 30 13:54
schestowitzBefore you manage to rebut one piece of BS they drop another lump of doucheSep 30 13:55
schestowitzAnd before you know it they keep lumping up more douche for you to clean upSep 30 13:55
gnufreexWhere argumentation seems weak, you just point that.Sep 30 13:55
schestowitzAnd that's what they try to achieveSep 30 13:55
schestowitzSame with anti-Linux trolls in this channelSep 30 13:55
schestowitzWhich are rare BTWSep 30 13:55
schestowitzThey hop between myths very fact before you can address them to mess up the mediumSep 30 13:56
gnufreexI think people see that he is full of crap when I completely break his argument with 3-linerSep 30 13:56
schestowitzSo when these trolls come you flag them what they obviously areSep 30 13:56
schestowitz<gnufreex> There lots of stuf that have 3G badgeSep 30 13:56
schestowitzIt's like Web 2.0Sep 30 13:56
schestowitzJust some marketing termSep 30 13:56
schestowitz"next generation", "Cloud computing"...Sep 30 13:57
schestowitzA bunch of patents with IEEE stampings...Sep 30 13:57
gnufreexI got it.Sep 30 13:57
schestowitzUSB 3.0...Sep 30 13:58
oiaohmPatents are the only weapon that has been dreamed up that have any chance against open source.Sep 30 13:58
oiaohmIts fun watching the rats in the sinking ships trying to grab them.Sep 30 13:58
schestowitzDe-commodisingSep 30 13:58
schestowitzEven the lobbyist uses this term nowSep 30 13:58
oiaohmSince open standards means end of easy gravy trains.Sep 30 13:58
schestowitzAbout how Red Hat 'destroys' the industrySep 30 13:58
schestowitzClassic Microsoft argumentSep 30 13:58
schestowitzRemember: he gave up pretendingSep 30 13:59
oiaohmIt does schestowitzSep 30 13:59
gnufreexLol... De-commoditising means sue someone out of existance.Sep 30 13:59
schestowitzThe FFII only paid attention when he got special secret 'leaks'Sep 30 13:59
oiaohmRedhat has nuked most of the Unix market.Sep 30 13:59
schestowitzFrom there on it went downhillSep 30 13:59
schestowitzNow he's just a troll in sites like LWNSep 30 13:59
oiaohmBut its also lead to more open and fair competion in the market.Sep 30 13:59
schestowitz http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/25889450310 http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/25889802270Sep 30 13:59
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schestowitzSame from the Microsoft/Novell trollSep 30 14:00
oiaohmReally its the end of citidals ruling.Sep 30 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] People with the same name living in the same city, same age and studying at the same university ruin your google coverage @colpaertpieterSep 30 14:00
oiaohmand bazzars forming.Sep 30 14:00
schestowitzIn the news today:Sep 30 14:00
schestowitzhttp://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056Sep 30 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mad Money's Jim Cramer: Is Red Hat Just Too Red Hot?  - CNBC .::. Size~: 125.11 KBSep 30 14:00
schestowitz'“When it comes to tech,” Cramer said Tuesday, “value destruction is far more important than value creation.”'Sep 30 14:00
schestowitzKramer idiotSep 30 14:00
oiaohmNot exactly.Sep 30 14:00
oiaohmWithout groups like redhat under mining Unix market we would not had the .net boom.Sep 30 14:01
gnufreexI watched that videoSep 30 14:01
oiaohmLow cost software allows more computer hardware.Sep 30 14:01
schestowitz"Jim Cramer's terrible Bear Stearns advice." http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-17-2008/broken-arrowSep 30 14:01
oiaohmTo be used effectively.Sep 30 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Broken Arrow - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 3/17/2008 - Video Clip | Comedy Central .::. Size~: 45.85 KBSep 30 14:01
gnufreexI just wanted to post it, schestowitz beat me to it.Sep 30 14:01
oiaohmSo destroying the old churches of the software world has massive long term value.Sep 30 14:02
oiaohmLarger value than we could dream.Sep 30 14:02
oiaohmYou think of all the stuff we would not have today without the .net boom.Sep 30 14:03
gnufreex"value destrucrion" is natural order. Whole idea is "do more faster and cheaper"Sep 30 14:04
gnufreexSo every company is "destroying"Sep 30 14:04
gnufreexIf you look that videoSep 30 14:04
oiaohmPatents are used to go the other way.Sep 30 14:04
gnufreexi knowSep 30 14:04
gnufreexIf you look the video, you will say that guy got it rightSep 30 14:04
oiaohmReally destuction is only part of it.Sep 30 14:05
oiaohmOpen source destorys lock in but also frees up means to develop.Sep 30 14:05
oiaohmIn a more competive and more customised way.Sep 30 14:05
gnufreexVMware (and any viruaslsation) is "destroying value" raising utilization therefore reducing need for hardware.Sep 30 14:06
gnufreexSaleforce is also making things more eficient, hence cheper.Sep 30 14:06
oiaohmReally bad example with vmwareSep 30 14:06
gnufreexSo Floyd should atack them tooSep 30 14:06
oiaohmBest virtualisation is hardware assisted.Sep 30 14:06
gnufreexAnd he should attack TurboHerkules because they are out to kill IBM mainframesSep 30 14:06
oiaohmvmware killed one market and created another.  gnufreexSep 30 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @joabj you're right, Apple innovates very little but patents. "We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas." -Steve JobsSep 30 14:08
oiaohmTurboHerkules IBM was worried about them because the company had MS staff at lead.Sep 30 14:08
gnufreexyesSep 30 14:09
gnufreexI know.Sep 30 14:09
oiaohmIBM had no major issues with the open source emulator.Sep 30 14:09
oiaohmBut if the emulator was going to be exploted to move IBM used to a closed source platform like WindowsSep 30 14:09
oiaohmIBM was not happy.Sep 30 14:09
oiaohmYes a strange case IBM was on the side of lets be free.Sep 30 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner #PCLinuxOS will fix that machine in ~20 minutesSep 30 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] #iRail mobile site will be rewritten to html5/css3. @mathias joins iRail-team → Expect some cool stuff soon.Sep 30 14:10
gnufreexThat is my point, Mueller is attacking Red Hat for comoditising, and at same time, he defends TH's right to commoditise. It is about who he works for. Microsoft is funding TH, and Microsoft is scared of Red Hat. Hence double standars.Sep 30 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner It's almost impossible to downgrade from Office 2007 to Office 2000, even on XP. (Would expect it on #Vista7 ) > feature, not bugSep 30 14:11
schestowitz[14:08] <oiaohm> TurboHerkules IBM was worried about them because the company had MS staff at lead.Sep 30 14:12
schestowitzREALLY?Sep 30 14:12
schestowitzWhich staff?Sep 30 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Good example of Walloons and Flemings working together: #iRail - #itspossibleSep 30 14:13
oiaohmI left out X schestowitzSep 30 14:14
gnufreex[15:05:01] <oiaohm> Really bad example with vmwareSep 30 14:15
gnufreexvmware existed long before VT-x and AMD-vSep 30 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "[Microsoft] Mueller is attacking Red Hat for comoditising, and at same time, he defends TH's right to commoditise." -- @gnufreexSep 30 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Hmm, iPad music library corrupted. Wonder if that old rule about not using more than 80 percent of the disk space applies w/ the iPadSep 30 14:15
oiaohmBut vmware worked with intel and amd to create vt-x and amd-vSep 30 14:15
oiaohmAnd also notice intel is still a prick on what chips get vt-x support.Sep 30 14:16
gnufreexYeah, Intel is always a prick. AMD puts it in all.Sep 30 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The number of U.S. software patents held by women has increased 45-fold since 1985; three times the national average." http://ur1.ca/1uwi0Sep 30 14:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why We Need to Reframe the "Women in Tech" Debate .::. Size~: 96.04 KBSep 30 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] There is no Plan B: why the IPv4-to-IPv6 transition will be ugly (Ars) http://bit.ly/daFNAjSep 30 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I can't understand why some tech sites still treat # of patents as indicative of "success". Lawyer sites on the other hand...Sep 30 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: There is no Plan B: why the IPv4-to-IPv6 transition will be ugly .::. Size~: 32.5 KBSep 30 14:20
oiaohmReally there are 3 possible plan B to the IPv4 to IPv6 problem.Sep 30 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Indian Court inheriting the Dasaradha Tradition of sharing (puthrakameshti yaga) gheer to Three Wives #Ayodhya #verdict #failSep 30 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @FOSSmaniac @nsisodiya Allahabad High Court has taken a policy decision to work in FOSS Solutions and use open standardsSep 30 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @jimanish especially in Muslim areas. Like Mosque Road, Frazer Town, uni Reddy Palya, RT NagarSep 30 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Why Karnataka Govt is making such a mess like Ayodhya is in Karnataka? Police roaming with Guns everywhere . Literally like a...Sep 30 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Alahabad High court website is down . Traffic Impact of Ayodhya verdict anxiety http://www.allahabadhighcourt.in/ayodhyabench.htmlSep 30 14:21
oiaohmNumber 1 a clean up process forcing IP sharing of sites that just provide web content.Sep 30 14:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: auto forward .::. Size~: 0.25 KBSep 30 14:22
oiaohmThere are quite a few IP that could be freed up by that.   So giving the interent a few more years.Sep 30 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Alahabad High court website is down . Traffic Impact of Ayodhya verdict anxiety http://www.allahabadhighcourt.in/ayodhyabench.htmlSep 30 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Robert having an ice-cream after the book signing. http://ur1.ca/1uwouSep 30 14:23
schestowitzThe lobbyist is derailing LWN. http://lwn.net/Articles/407614/Sep 30 14:23
schestowitzLWN should do with Groklaw didSep 30 14:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat Responds to U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Request for Guidance on Bilski [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 44.2 KBSep 30 14:24
gnufreexI am not sure if LWN does banning. That is why FM is most active there.Sep 30 14:24
gnufreexHe is also poping up on ARS Techinca now.Sep 30 14:25
gnufreexBut he is getting ignored.Sep 30 14:25
schestowitzSame in /.Sep 30 14:25
schestowitzWHich tolerates GoatseSep 30 14:25
gnufreexHe got two responses on ARS.Sep 30 14:25
gnufreexOne agree, one disagree.Sep 30 14:25
schestowitzNobody reads his Google blogSep 30 14:25
gnufreexHe is CCing blog everywhere.Sep 30 14:26
gnufreexHe trolls Glyn Moody's Open Enterpise blog. Had a big debate there the other day.Sep 30 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @caostheory el Reg says that the JCP has passed a resolution calling on Orcl to spin it out as an as a indep body. http://bit.ly/bRvO3kSep 30 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New GNOME 2.32 fixes the bugs (H) http://bit.ly/d6ffTESep 30 14:26
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schestowitzgnufreex: ccing?Sep 30 14:27
gnufreexcarbon copyingSep 30 14:27
schestowitzDoes he paste the same comments in different sites?Sep 30 14:27
gnufreexYesSep 30 14:28
schestowitzAhhhh...Sep 30 14:28
gnufreexMoglen SmearsSep 30 14:28
gnufreexAnd pro patent shitSep 30 14:28
gnufreexSame thing on ARS and IT worldSep 30 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] MySQL fork Drizzle goes beta (H) http://bit.ly/9SqXI6Sep 30 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is it not funny when Microsoft lobbyists run their blogs and E-mail on GNU/Linux and pretend to be "FOSS" people? :-)Sep 30 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Microsoft lobby pastes the same comments in many different Linux-oriented sites. That counts as spamming, just like mass-mailing journosSep 30 14:30
gnufreexschestowitz: CCing and doubleposting http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/09/mozilla-becomes-open-invention-network-licensee.ars?comments=1#comments-barSep 30 14:30
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gnufreexAnd he says FSF is spammingSep 30 14:31
gnufreexUSPTOSep 30 14:31
gnufreexAnd larry elisonSep 30 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] há 6h tentando conseguir que a !&$!#&# NET se mexa sobre um problema de roteamento que me bloqueia fsf.org, gnu.org, identi.ca e outrosSep 30 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] vem o técnico (visita desnecessária), mostro os traceroutes, ele passa pra central, pedem pra testar noutro computadorSep 30 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] boto o yeeloong direto na rede, mandamos os traceroutes, o cara da central pede pro técnico ir buscar um notebook com Windows. PQP!@#Sep 30 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] isso porque me prometeram que iam fazer os testes na rede externa, onde está o problema, antes de mandar um técnico aqui me acordarSep 30 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak none, sorry, it was a speech. Guess something will be published, but not today.Sep 30 14:35
gnufreexIt turns out that it is not exacly carbon copy, other sites have different wording since google only finds ARS when I paste text into search. schestowitzSep 30 14:35
oiaohmClose enough lot of times that it could be a rewriter bot.  gnufreexSep 30 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] não adianta eu mostrar que é um roteador da Embratel em Sampa, o importante é empurrar com a barriga. e tome ouvidoria!Sep 30 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] malditos oligopólios!Sep 30 14:36
gnufreexIt could be.Sep 30 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Indian Court inheriting the Dasaradha Tradition of sharing (puthrakameshti yaga) gheer to Three Wives #Ayodhya #verdict #failSep 30 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Why Karnataka Govt is making such a mess like Ayodhya is in Karnataka? Police roaming with Guns everywhere . Literally like a...Sep 30 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @FOSSmaniac @nsisodiya Allahabad High Court has taken a policy decision to work in FOSS Solutions and use open standardsSep 30 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @jimanish especially in Muslim areas. Like Mosque Road, Frazer Town, uni Reddy Palya, RT NagarSep 30 14:38
schestowitzmanual alterations?Sep 30 14:40
oiaohmrewriter bots are simple beasts.Sep 30 14:40
oiaohmThey basically swap words with other words of same meaning.Sep 30 14:41
oiaohmKey to spoting someone using one is the fact the number of words per sentence normally dont change.Sep 30 14:41
oiaohmNeither does the order.Sep 30 14:41
oiaohmMore advanced ones are rare.Sep 30 14:42
schestowitzit doesn't matterSep 30 14:42
schestowitzThe point is, he has a point to makeSep 30 14:43
schestowitzThen he makes it in many sites with the same corpusSep 30 14:43
schestowitzIt's not doneSep 30 14:43
schestowitzUnless you're aTL/ACTSep 30 14:43
schestowitzSending letters from 'dead people'Sep 30 14:43
gnufreexTell me about "sending letters from dead people"... what does it mean? I heard lots of times, have no idea what it mens. Did they used names of dead people?Sep 30 14:44
schestowitzMicrosoft paid lobbyists to do thisSep 30 14:45
schestowitzTo spam the governmentSep 30 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "ATL" can be rebranded "ACT"; "CodePlex" can be rebranded "OuterSpace"; but can Florian be renamed? It's tricky. Floyd?Sep 30 14:45
schestowitzSo groups of Microsoft sent fake lettersSep 30 14:45
schestowitzSigned by dead peopleSep 30 14:45
schestowitzTo support MirosoftSep 30 14:45
schestowitzAnd oppose government actionSep 30 14:45
gnufreexLol... that was during 2001. trial ?Sep 30 14:46
schestowitzBefore that I thinkSep 30 14:46
schestowitzNo trials under BushSep 30 14:46
schestowitzHe's pro-'Free' marketSep 30 14:46
schestowitz"!Fedora 14 beta takes !MeeGo for a spin http://ur1.ca/1uxbf !gnu !linux the LSB way, not the Google way"Sep 30 14:46
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schestowitzOdd. Identica lag?Sep 30 14:46
schestowitzOh, nm... must be the "!"Sep 30 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman and the free software movement http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/45532 Interview of interestSep 30 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open World Forum opens with optimism http://bit.ly/aXaJSg #foss #owf #opendataSep 30 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Privacy Is Ultimately about Liberty While Surveillance Is Always about Control http://ur1.ca/1uxug David Sugar from !gnu telephonySep 30 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Privacy Is Ultimately about Liberty While Surveillance Is Always about Control http://ur1.ca/1uxug David Sugar from !gnu telephonySep 30 14:56
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gnufreexschestowitz: Florian's points are all pretty weak. But enought to fool the ignorant. So it is dangerous. Best bet is to elegantly refute his points. For example, his Moglen smears goes like this: "Moglen supported Oracle aquistion, se he is a selaout. Moglen also said that Oracle better home from Sun patents that Microsft, and Microsoft never made bid for Sun. So Moglen is fear-mongering people against Microsoft/trying to makeSep 30 14:58
gnufreex 'em beleive in bogeyman called Microsoft."Sep 30 14:58
gnufreexTruth is, if Oracle aquisiton failed, Sun would be sold to pieces. James Gosling implicitly admited that the other day. Some pieces would go to trolls. So Moglen is right. Oracle is better than the alternative.Sep 30 14:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/silner/status/25978018537 "@schestowitz: If only the owner could be persuaded. But won't even upgrade: wants Office 2000 on XP - "I'm used to XP. I'll stay with that""Sep 30 15:00
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schestowitzDarnSep 30 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Steve Irwin vs John Denver http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bvXPBxWiJcU/0.jpg http://thefilter.blogs.com/thefilter/images/steve_irwin2.jpgSep 30 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner maybe make a dual-boot (cost free)Sep 30 15:01
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gnufreexschestowitz: here is interview with James Gosling http://www.basementcoders.com/transcripts/James_Gosling_Transcript.htmlSep 30 15:02
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schestowitzThere are severalSep 30 15:03
gnufreexThis is from JavaOneSep 30 15:03
schestowitzI saw itSep 30 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @kevie !linux gamers: stay well clear of #Amazon seller SC-WHOLSALE #games #gamingSep 30 15:03
gnufreexPretty freshSep 30 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twitter is redoing the site. It looks better, still different from identi.ca.Sep 30 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Identica is better than Twitter in several ways, inc. threading and E-mail notifications (for replies and other events).Sep 30 15:06
gnufreex"they [IBM] do everything they can to try and screw Sun over, I mean they didn't name eclipse casually" and then he says something about OSF (open software foundation, or Opose Sun Forever)Sep 30 15:07
schestowitzAnd patents fightSep 30 15:08
schestowitzSimo Phipps wrote about itSep 30 15:08
schestowitzIt goes several years backSep 30 15:08
gnufreexIBM vs Sun?Sep 30 15:08
schestowitzgnufreex: link to the interview above in http://techrights.org/2010/09/29/meego-ported-further/Sep 30 15:08
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schestowitzgnufreex: yesSep 30 15:08
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.htmlSep 30 15:09
gnufreexThat was late 80s i thinkSep 30 15:09
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schestowitz"My own introduction to the realities of the patent system came in the 1980s, when my client, Sun Microsystems--then a small company--was accused by IBM of patent infringement. Threatening a massive lawsuit, IBM demanded a meeting to present its claims. Fourteen IBM lawyers and their assistants, all clad in the requisite dark blue suits, crowded into the largest conference room Sun had. "Sep 30 15:09
gnufreexIBM hates Sun so much, and they made themselves even bigger competior now. Larry wants IBM dead.Sep 30 15:11
gnufreexThey should have get along with Sun. They will miss Sun now.Sep 30 15:11
schestowitzServer room -- yeahSep 30 15:12
schestowitzIBM's cash bullSep 30 15:12
schestowitzhttp://www.cinemablend.com/new/James-Franco-To-Adapt-Direct-Produce-And-Star-In-The-Adderall-Diaries-20892.htmlSep 30 15:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.movieweb.com/news/NEeL9wl3h3OlheSep 30 15:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2010/09/30/james-franco-to-write-direct-and-star-in-the-adderall-diaries/Sep 30 15:14
schestowitzThere you go.Sep 30 15:14
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schestowitzFree publicity for..... LINUX?Sep 30 15:14
schestowitzx-<Sep 30 15:14
schestowitz[James Franco to make movie of Nina Reiser murder]Sep 30 15:14
gnufreexI never get why IBM hated Sun that much. It was competitor, yeah. But it is UNIX/RISC competitor with open Java platrofm they both use. And HP is Wintel grocery store. IBM should have teamed up with Sun against MSFT, Dell and HP. And against intel. Instead, they let Microsoft profit from IBM vs Sun war.Sep 30 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux Mint: the tastier !Ubuntu http://linuxtrends.com/linux-mint-tastier-ubuntu/Sep 30 15:18
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schestowitzgnufreex: we need more companiesSep 30 15:23
schestowitzthey just scoop up everything around themSep 30 15:23
schestowitzMostly US conglomeratesSep 30 15:23
schestowitzThis is bad for the marketSep 30 15:23
schestowitzIn EU there' Philips (NL), SAP (DE), and Nokia (FI), among othersSep 30 15:24
schestowitz*THERE'S, amongstSep 30 15:24
gnufreexI know, removing Sun was big deal for microsoft. Oracle is now stronger competitor to them, but they axed big corporate opne source evangelist, that is more important to them.Sep 30 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Don't use alien, .debs for #LibreOffice are here: http://ur1.ca/1tacy #Debian !Ubuntu /by @magicfabSep 30 15:26
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gnufreexAlso, MySQL got removed. That is big loss. It shouldn't have been sold to sun, it is important to have pure play open source companies that are independant.Sep 30 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Some Android apps caught covertly sending GPS data to advertisers (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/407752/rssSep 30 15:30
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schestowitzgnufreex: they almost IPO'd in 2007Sep 30 15:30
gnufreexI know, Sun snatched them from the IPO.Sep 30 15:31
schestowitzGoogle LOVES tracking and advertisingSep 30 15:31
schestowitzDid the Android phones send MAC addresses too? ;-)Sep 30 15:31
schestowitzThey transmit everything with the worm called AnalyticsSep 30 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do Fedora and OpenSUSE "ambassadors" make Red Hat and Novell nations?Sep 30 15:31
schestowitzEven people's screens sizesSep 30 15:31
schestowitzGoogle know what hardware I useSep 30 15:32
schestowitz*knowsSep 30 15:32
schestowitzgnufreex: I think they wanted to be snatchedSep 30 15:32
schestowitzMickos dreaded doing the financial report that yearSep 30 15:32
schestowitzThey didn't get many people to paySep 30 15:32
schestowitzNot he advocated proprietary ('open' core) at Eucalyptus as CEOSep 30 15:33
gnufreexYeah, Mickos was greedy...Sep 30 15:33
schestowitz*Now he advocatesSep 30 15:33
gnufreexbut how you know they were lossing money?Sep 30 15:33
schestowitzDon't know...Sep 30 15:33
schestowitzMaybe on balance they did OKSep 30 15:33
schestowitzVMB_ware bought many other FOSS companiesSep 30 15:34
schestowitzAnd rarely heard about in the news anymoreSep 30 15:34
schestowitzInterface21/SpringSource for exampleSep 30 15:34
schestowitzZimbraSep 30 15:34
schestowitz"Whoooz dat?"Sep 30 15:34
schestowitzZimbraSep 30 15:34
schestowitz"Oh. It's still around?"Sep 30 15:34
gnufreexI think MySQL had workable model.Sep 30 15:34
gnufreexAs for Sping, I think Red Hat should have intercepted thatSep 30 15:35
gnufreexZimbra tooSep 30 15:35
schestowitzThen they got close to AZune cloudSep 30 15:35
schestowitzMonty tooSep 30 15:35
schestowitzTrying to 'monetise' with BallmerSep 30 15:35
gnufreexRed Had could add Spring to JBoss lineupSep 30 15:35
gnufreexbrbSep 30 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Consolidate: Put Your Servers into a VirtualBox VM http://ur1.ca/1uzqcSep 30 15:38
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schestowitzhttp://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1198-script-to-backup-your-mysql-tables-and-send-them-to-your-emailSep 30 15:41
schestowitzNice and cleanSep 30 15:41
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Diablo-D3exceptSep 30 15:44
Diablo-D3only utter faggots use mysqlSep 30 15:44
Diablo-D3well, that, and people who use wordpressSep 30 15:44
Diablo-D3wordpress == outsourcing your faggotry needs to expertsSep 30 15:44
Diablo-D3and if you've ever looked at wordpress's source, you will, too, agree that wordpress devs are experts at faggotrySep 30 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] fought with eclipse for 45m, an android packaging issue; all it needed was project → clean. why do IDEs have to maintain their own state ffsSep 30 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] тестирование Я Й Ы тестирование Я Й Ы тестирование Я Й Ы тестирование Я Й Ы тестирование Я Й Ы #testing #Russian #CyrillicSep 30 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Minimalist kiosk distro revs to !Ubuntu 10.04 foundation http://ur1.ca/1v0j6 Shows the importance of having many distrosSep 30 15:55
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: just because you're gay doesn't mean you can spread insulting words here. It may be fine with you, but other people may be offended.Sep 30 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Data centres increasing reliability on Linux http://ur1.ca/1v0n6 “We now see as much as 40 per cent of data centres being built on Linux”Sep 30 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] *hate* this modern rash of /# URLs http://www.google.com/phone/#manufacturer=all&category=all&carrier=&country=ukSep 30 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Nice! the Novacut project is using The Art of Community ( see the bottom of http://is.gd/fCjYf ) #communitySep 30 16:00
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schestowitzIDG's pseudopen source blog promote MonoSep 30 16:02
schestowitzTeambox is a neat online project management app that integrates what works with social networking to try to make a more enjoyable and effective collaborative experience. Plus it's open source, so you can fully customize it, too.Sep 30 16:02
schestowitzWhile the idea of bringing a Twitter-like experience into a working environment doesn't really sound too appealing at first, it's actually a more speed-appropriate channel for communication (which we like). It's good for reducing email volume, plus project communication is heavily status updates anyhow. While I found the idea off-putting at first, it really looks to be an effective means of communication in the workplace.Sep 30 16:02
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/mindtouch-makes-technical-documentation-snapSep 30 16:02
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schestowitz@schestowitz So the changes to Twitter are purely cosmetic (except for OAuth, of course)? http://identi.ca/conversation/52783217#notice-53228983Sep 30 16:07
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schestowitzPretty much, I gues..Sep 30 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Windows7 compatible LED Screen? so it doesn't cause fuzzing on Win7 when you play your copy-protected movies? who caresSep 30 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fsfe: 62 new bugs for Switzerland on #pdfreaders in the last 7 hours ! http://l.fsfe.org/pdfrSep 30 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Data centres increasing reliability on Linux http://ur1.ca/1v0n6Sep 30 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @nomadix: ♺ @magicfab: don't use alien, .debs for #LibreOffice are here: http://ur1.ca/1tacy #Debian !UbuntuSep 30 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @angelverde: Cómo Instalar LibreOffice el fork de OpenOffice.org http://bit.ly/9vSAbf !ubuntuSep 30 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @prosch: !playogg http://www.profischnell.comSep 30 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Free Form: a few interesting free software news bites by our intern Molly: http://ur1.ca/1v29c. Note !fsfe's PDF campaign, ends Oct 17!Sep 30 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Interested in free video formats? We could use your help! http://ur1.ca/1ucjtSep 30 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interested in free video formats? We need your help! &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.31 KBSep 30 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] OK folks, what in the up-coming Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat most excites you? Tag it with #excitedaboutmaverick #ubuntuSep 30 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now, THIS (http://tinyurl.com/39e5rqd) is why I am proud to be a Red Hatter. Just Say No To Software Patents! #fbSep 30 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @fsf Interested in free video formats? We could use your help! http://ur1.ca/1ucjtSep 30 16:40
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Diablo-D3[10:55:47] <schestowitz> Diablo-D3: just because you're gay doesn't mean you can spread insulting words here. It may be fine with you, but other people may be offended.Sep 30 16:41
Diablo-D3if Im gay, why was I sleeping with your mother last night?Sep 30 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Qt 4 experimental/work in progress !Milkymist port http://is.gd/fCnVM and Ruby demo http://is.gd/fCnVRSep 30 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @fsf Free Form: a few interesting free software news bites by our intern Molly: http://ur1.ca/1v29c. Note !fsfe's PDF campaign, ends ...Sep 30 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Windoze7 shutdown has 64 updates to be done! Huh!? http://ur1.ca/1v2nzSep 30 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Levitating graphene is fastest-spinning object ever http://ur1.ca/1v2s9 !scienceSep 30 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lessig/@lessig] talk at MIT today about #citizensunited: come and backchannel the debate. http://bit.ly/b0zaXiSep 30 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] #excitedaboutmaverick for Unity, new sound menu, shotwell, ubuntu software center updates, app review process and more!Sep 30 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hoping to attend Red Hat Summit in Boston from May 3-6 2011. http://www.facebook.com/redhatsummit #fbSep 30 16:51
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schestowitz"Oddly enough Thinkfree ( http://is.gd/fChEZ ) is proving a successful temporary fix (looks similar to what they're used to)" http://twitter.com/#!/silner/status/25984719311Sep 30 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Saying that it is marketing to be lying about a vapourware Blackberry paddie is not being fair to marketing people! http://ur1.ca/1v3af #fbSep 30 17:03
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schestowitzMicrosoft Florian calls my blog posts "spam": "Just saw #boycottboy has reverted to his usual spam rhythm. We'll see if EFF/ASF support is then a case of "Microsoft entryism". "Sep 30 17:04
schestowitzPosting my own blog= "spam rhythm" ?Sep 30 17:04
schestowitzStupid lobbyistSep 30 17:04
schestowitzNew Digg is kind of OK... http://digg.com/news/technology/libreoffice_has_the_potential_to_altogether_replace_oracle_openoffice_org_oooo_techrightsSep 30 17:08
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schestowitzhttp://digg.com/news/technology/linux_in_schools "This is an awesome article! I was just talking to a 5th grade teacher about it yesterday.. On the subject of "reinventing the wheel"."Sep 30 17:09
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schestowitz"It ought to be mandatory for schools to teach methods, not products."Sep 30 17:09
schestowitzhttp://www.conceivablytech.com/2910/off-guard/real-men-run-linux-and-not-windows/Sep 30 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] James Franco To Adapt, Direct, Produce And Star In The Adderall Diaries http://bit.ly/c0umJn #linuxSep 30 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Vegetarianism is good 4 U. I only eat veggies and loving it.Sep 30 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad Windows7 compatible LED Screen?so it doesn't cause fuzzing on Win7 when you play your copy-protected movies?who cares #drm #vistaSep 30 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 30/9/2010: !GNU !Linux Growth in Data Centres, #XtreemOS Opening Up http://ur1.ca/1v43q !techrights #roundupSep 30 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The 'new' #Twitter is quite JavaScript dependent, which cripples #NoScriptSep 30 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'New' #Twitter recommends that I follow Guy Kewney, who died. http://twitter.com/#!/gkewney http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_KewneySep 30 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I dunno, mostly use it through Chokoq, so, 4 me, it's the sameSep 30 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here is Guy's last post and tweet. http://hunkymouse.livejournal.com/62040.html I loved his articlesSep 30 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I saw a !Win7 ad explaining the joys of streaming music from a home PC to a laptop on holiday & could only think !DRM minefieldSep 30 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad !Qt 4 experimental/work in progress !Milkymist port http://is.gd/fCnVM and Ruby demo http://is.gd/fCnVRSep 30 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lessig your talk from the 25th was very good. Keep up the good fight.Sep 30 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @harishpillay Windoze7 shutdown has 64 updates to be done! Huh!? http://ur1.ca/1v2nz < maybe it's updating MotherShip... profiling ;-)Sep 30 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Linagora supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] BSRSoft LTDA supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Open Source Consortium supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] OpenDocument Fellowship supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @docufoundation Open Source Consortium supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Just realised I'm being watched, look who's decided my talk of !Win7 is worth watching http://bit.ly/cqy853 /me waves to @windows7Sep 30 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Only complaint I receive from people who run !GNU !Linux on an old machine is that #AdobeTrash Player is slowSep 30 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've heard from a developer that #AdobeTrash Player was so bad on 64-bit platforms as all they did was change var types to long/doubleSep 30 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Download !Ubuntu RC Maverick Meerkat / Baixe o Ubuntu versão candidata http://is.gd/fCv6D (via @andregondim)Sep 30 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] so is @windows7 a MS astroturfer under whatever dubious legal / moral excuse or just a random fanboi?Sep 30 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb identica invaded by Microsoft marketingSep 30 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb so is @windows7 a MS astroturfer under whatever dubious legal / moral excuse or just a random fanboi?Sep 30 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I only just spotted it, the name, logo, and all the posts are !Win7 promosSep 30 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I'm guessing it's some VB app set to autosubscribe to those who use the tags, I'm certainly not championing !Win7Sep 30 18:15
finalzonehello, anyone read about FlorianMueller filling post on LWN?Sep 30 18:15
schestowitzThe lobbyist...Sep 30 18:16
schestowitzPeople should stop feeding itSep 30 18:16
schestowitzIt derails the discussionSep 30 18:16
schestowitzLike the lobbyist is designed to doSep 30 18:16
schestowitzIn /. tooSep 30 18:17
finalzoneI noticed those because his posts make nonsensesSep 30 18:17
schestowitzThey doSep 30 18:18
schestowitzSPin and liesSep 30 18:18
schestowitzBut don't respondSep 30 18:18
schestowitzLWN should do what Groklaw does, I thinkSep 30 18:18
schestowitzHe disrupts the forumSep 30 18:18
schestowitzMaking LWN anti-LinuxSep 30 18:18
schestowitzIt's called "trolling" when people address the opposite platformSep 30 18:18
schestowitzLike me going to WIndows sites and chaining threads attacking MicrosoftSep 30 18:18
schestowitzI'd expect to get bannedSep 30 18:19
schestowitz[not that I ever was banned anywhere]Sep 30 18:19
gnufreexfinalzone: I answered, unfortunatelySep 30 18:19
schestowitzI'll write about his 'spamachine'Sep 30 18:19
schestowitzTrollingSep 30 18:19
schestowitzAlmost identical comments everywhereSep 30 18:20
schestowitzLike his E-mails to many journosSep 30 18:20
schestowitzWhich they never ask forSep 30 18:20
finalzoneI saw your post gnufreex.  Florian responded in lenghty waySep 30 18:20
finalzoneschestowtiz, Florian recycled his posts?Sep 30 18:21
gnufreexfinalzone: Yeah, he expects I will go point to point and drag it forever. But I am not paid to troll like he is.Sep 30 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's been a while since I looked at my identica subscribers, working through them subscribing to someSep 30 18:21
schestowitzfinalzone: gnufreex says he didSep 30 18:22
finalzonetalk about waste of timeSep 30 18:24
finalzonefortunately I visited techrights.org so I become aware about FlorianMuellerSep 30 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @unessentialist: What unique burdens India places on its judges: "Well, my legal training leads me to believe He was born o...Sep 30 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @priyaramani: Did the court say anything bout Ram's birth weight?Sep 30 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the way Identi.ca webpages refresh makes it a PITA to use the back button in the browserSep 30 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] RT @docufoundation Open Source Consortium supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The distinguishing principles of open source by @BrianG_Jasper | http://bit.ly/bY7DNY #jaspersoft #participationSep 30 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] surprised the media industry don't sue over pesky doctors using the ADHD abrev (Advanced Design High Definition)? lolSep 30 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] xf86-video-intel 2.13.0 released http://bit.ly/c6yqVT "With the many bug fixes in this release, we encourage everyone using 2.12 to upg[...]Sep 30 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !KDE Still Does Not Support #LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/1v6kk A polite call for KDE to put its weight behind LibreOffice #odf #standardSep 30 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Going to hackerspace Ghent @HSGhent #0x20 - I'll be there in 45 minSep 30 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] +1000 ♺ @fcouchet: The speech of Eben Moglen at #owf was inspiring, motivating, energizing. I hope the video will be available soonSep 30 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are the global corps who set up HQ in Ireland to avoid tax, stepping in to help the Irish economy by actually paying taxes? !greedSep 30 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Stuxnet is Immortal on #Microsoft #Windows , #Siemens Should Just Move Fully to !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/1v77sSep 30 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US demands right to snoop the world - http://bit.ly/cVul4e give people what they demand, they demand more #surveillanceSep 30 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @glynmoody I sometimes wonder if it's better to let them. The larger their haystack, the less likely they'll spot ANY needles in itSep 30 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] For all its faults, Facebook is a great advertisement for open source power & scalability - http://bit.ly/crVbS6 #facebook mysql #phpSep 30 19:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Facebook Data Center FAQ (Page 2) « Data Center Knowledge .::. Size~: 51.04 KBSep 30 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Open Government Licence removes barriers to re-use of public sector information - http://bit.ly/cKoGTR another nice #opendata move ukSep 30 19:23
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cubevectorStuxnet?Sep 30 19:25
amarsh04the worm/virus that targets siemens scada devices on ms-windowsSep 30 19:27
cubevectorahSep 30 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] New report from @StudentPIRGs - A Cover to Cover Solution: How Open Textbooks are the Path to Textbook Affordability http://bit.ly/cvr2cvrSep 30 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Drug Rep Accidentally Admits There's No Justification For Massive Markup Over Generics - http://bit.ly/cB0VS0 truth hurts #drugs #genericsSep 30 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't feed the lobbyistsSep 30 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Go check out the Blender Foundation's monumental short 3d film, Sintel! http://www.sintel.org/ http://ur1.ca/1qoi6Sep 30 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Bay-area friends, check out "Keeping the Net Healthy", a great event happening on 10/4 hosted by @stopbadware: http://bit.ly/9QcyypSep 30 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #Apple , #Microsoft , and !GNU !Linux Mean to One's Freedom and the Bundling Issue Revisited http://ur1.ca/1v8huSep 30 19:45
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/52813313#notice-53260082 "Sep 30 19:46
schestowitz@schestowitz is there any difference from libreoffice to openoffice by now?Sep 30 19:46
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schestowitzfromSep 30 19:46
schestowitzI think the important difference is the repository branching away from Oracle, no?Sep 30 19:47
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/52813313#notice-53261736 "Kde does have it's own office suite, it's called koffice"Sep 30 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security advisories http://lwn.net/Articles/407827/rssSep 30 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @pmctechblog Adobe needs to step its flash game up with linux in general, that or the Open Source versions need to make some leaps.Sep 30 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] dang my songs are mixed between last.fm and my library...nice! :DSep 30 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Victory! Internet Censorship Bill is Delayed, For Now: https://eff.org/r.1rYSep 30 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @eff Victory! Internet Censorship Bill is Delayed, For Now: https://eff.org/r.1rYSep 30 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Sintel, Blender’s 3rd Open Film is launched http://youtu.be/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ #cc #blenderSep 30 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe the fact that "repository" sounds like "suppository" is holding us back from the mainstream ;)Sep 30 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the theme tune for the goddess of sexual harassment lawsuits should be MC Hammer's "Can't Touch This"Sep 30 20:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: MinceR hazzy jono Heh more Benjamin drama see comments http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/ubuntu-10-10-release-candidate-available-for-download/Sep 30 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Coalition Movement Camp work party set for 10/10/10 w/ @coalitionfilm | http://bit.ly/aenZ14 #climatechange #collaborateSep 30 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] open source Lustre file system finds life post-Oracle (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/deGLMaSep 30 20:18
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sebsebsebSorry about high light, but you might be interested as well ThistleWeb cubevector cubezzz ^Sep 30 20:18
MinceRlulzSep 30 20:20
cubevectorI might try the Ubuntu with 3.5.11 out of curiousitySep 30 20:21
sebsebsebMinceR: I assume you meant lol, but yeah its so pathetic really, that its kind of funnySep 30 20:21
sebsebsebcubevector: well Ubuntu 8.04 was the last version to have KDE 3 in the repo, but a community memeber made a KDE 3 based Ubuntu for later ones as wellSep 30 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] At hackerspace Ghent #0x20Sep 30 20:23
*sebsebseb was going to put the RC on maybe today, but not just yet, since I am not ready myself to do itSep 30 20:24
sebsebseband uh I am in no rushSep 30 20:24
sebsebsebI put 10.10 on, I know I will end up regreting itSep 30 20:24
sebsebsebhowever I do want to do it before the actsual final, so yep not really a rush at the momentSep 30 20:24
sebsebsebSo Friday would be ok,  or Saturday or Sunday, even MondaySep 30 20:25
sebsebsebits sad really to replace such a nice distro Mandriva,  with such a horrible oneSep 30 20:25
cubevectoryou could put it on a different computerSep 30 20:26
sebsebsebcubevector: only two here I can install Linux on to pshyically at the momentSep 30 20:26
sebsebseband the other one will stay MandrivaSep 30 20:26
sebsebsebfor nowSep 30 20:26
sebsebsebcubevector: anyway I was only planning on running 10.10 on here for about two weeks, and then switch to Fedora or  PC Linux OS  XFCE or Enlightment, whilst waiting for Mageia :)Sep 30 20:27
sebsebsebhowever depending on what 10.10 is actsaully like,  for me on here,  I may stay on that for longer than I had intendedSep 30 20:27
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cubevectorI don't see 17th century english too oftenSep 30 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux May Need a Rewrite Beyond 48 Cores (ConceivablyTech): http://bit.ly/da8tGRSep 30 20:31
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sebsebsebcubevector: uh what where?Sep 30 20:32
cubevectorfrom youSep 30 20:32
sebsebsebcubevector: what when?Sep 30 20:32
sebsebsebcubevector: When did I use 17th century English?Sep 30 20:33
cubevector"whilst", a form considered archaic outside the United Kingdom :)Sep 30 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft updates SQL Server 2008 (Network World) http://bit.ly/aZexvoSep 30 20:33
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cubevectorlike didstSep 30 20:33
sebsebsebwhat does archaic mean?Sep 30 20:33
cubevectorOf or characterized by antiquity or archaism; antiquated;   obsolescent.Sep 30 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Torrenting the OGV version of the new Blender Foundation film Sintel at http://www.sintel.org/ !playogg !fsf !lpSep 30 20:36
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cubevectorbut it's not really that oldSep 30 20:37
cubevectorEarly Modern I'd saySep 30 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @mlinksva Wanted: #webm or reasonably-encoded (ones provided ginormous) #ogv Sintel. #blender + #xiph superpowers please! ☺Sep 30 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Data centres increasing reliability on !Linux - cloud, data centres, dell, forbes CEO global conference 2010 - Techworld http://ping.fm/tJr8Sep 30 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Jean-Louis Missika told @OpenWorldForum how openness and open innovation are changing Paris | http://bit.ly/aXaJSg #owf #optimismSep 30 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Some !Android apps caught covertly sending GPS data to advertisers http://ping.fm/s5KQPSep 30 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Linux May Need a Rewrite Beyond 48 Cores http://ur1.ca/1vaot (via @slashdot)Sep 30 20:51
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schestowitz<sebsebseb> what does archaic mean?Sep 30 20:53
schestowitzCOmpatible with RMS' philosophy *me ducksSep 30 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. military pilots speak at The National Press Club: UFO’s deactivated nukes - http://bit.ly/cYuiHR nice someone is stopping our sillinessSep 30 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !BT broadband deals "we sell you out for free" hurry, offer must end soonSep 30 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Korean banks starting cross-browser services - http://bit.ly/b39P9Q 2010 and still not there #southkorea #browsers #activexSep 30 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2000 Years Since Anyone's Heard Babylonian Poetry Read Aloud - Click to Hear It Now - http://rww.to/aroOhW wonderful #akkadianSep 30 21:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla in Asia  » Blog Archive   » Korean banks starting cross-browser services .::. Size~: 9.57 KBSep 30 21:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2000 Years Since Anyone's Heard Babylonian Poetry Read Aloud - Click to Hear It Now .::. Size~: 58.36 KBSep 30 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Strong Momentum in the Fight Against Weak Patents http://ur1.ca/1vb44 #swpats #uspto #epo #patents #microsoft #redhat !fsf #lawSep 30 21:03
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hazzyI gotta tell you, I'm MOSTLY happy with the stories that have been published lately on techrightsSep 30 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody For all its faults, Facebook is a great advertisement for open source power & scalability - http://bit.ly/crVbS6 #facebookSep 30 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Facebook Data Center FAQ (Page 2) « Data Center Knowledge .::. Size~: 51.04 KBSep 30 21:08
schestowitzhazzy: thanks!Sep 30 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu font set as default for Ubuntu 10.10 http://goo.gl/dMAxSep 30 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Release Candidate Is Out - See What's New! http://goo.gl/UKwcSep 30 21:11
sebsebsebNot seen it yet, but http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/blender-made-film-%E2%80%98sintel%E2%80%99-released-online/Sep 30 21:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu font likely to be set as default for Ubuntu 10.10 .::. Size~: 32.5 KBSep 30 21:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blender made film ‘Sintel’ released online .::. Size~: 30.43 KBSep 30 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @creativecommons Go check out the Blender Foundation's monumental short 3d film, Sintel! http://www.sintel.org/ http://ur1.ca/1qoi6Sep 30 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] !Blender you are fantastic http://youtu.be/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQSep 30 21:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sintel - Open Movie Project .::. Size~: 16.25 KBSep 30 21:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blender Store: Product Image .::. Size~: 8.88 KBSep 30 21:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Sintel   .::. Size~: 136.84 KBSep 30 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Oliver Grawert: !Ubuntu on #ARM, the best since sliced bread http://goo.gl/LG5tSep 30 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ubuntu Release blog: Ubuntu 10.10 Release Candidate (Maverick Meerkat) Released http://goo.gl/PVMESep 30 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Blender made film ‘Sintel’ released online http://ping.fm/FkxXCSep 30 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Fingerprint Reader from Validity Inc. getting official Ubuntu support http://goo.gl/rkAMSep 30 21:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu on ARM, the best since sliced bread !! « Ogras blog .::. Size~: 18 KBSep 30 21:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Novacut distributed video editor has 40 hours left to reach reality http://goo.gl/28SkSep 30 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Hotot #Twitter application gets a Daily Build !PPA for Ubuntu users http://goo.gl/8DN3Sep 30 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novacut distributed video editor has 40 hours left to reach reality .::. Size~: 30.64 KBSep 30 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [As OGG] #Sintel is Published: Blender-made Film Demonstrates Free Software Power http://ur1.ca/1vbr2 #playoggSep 30 21:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sintel is Published: Blender-made Film Demonstrates Free Software Power | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.44 KBSep 30 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: #Sintel Open Movie Released and It's Absolutely Beautiful! http://goo.gl/DBwwSep 30 21:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sintel Open Movie Released and It's Absolutely Beautiful! | Tech Drive-in .::. Size~: 42.42 KBSep 30 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Pirate Bay User Database Exploited By Spammers http://ping.fm/IPRNeSep 30 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Goo.gl Is A Go. The “Stablest, Most Secure, And Fastest URL Shortener On The Web” http://ping.fm/JzVUOSep 30 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Goo.gl Is A Go. The Stablest, Most Secure, And Fastest URL Shortener On The Web  .::. Size~: 45.71 KBSep 30 21:33
schestowitzsebsebseb: this:  ... ?Sep 30 21:34
schestowitz"Sep 30 21:34
schestowitzSure. As Ubuntu gets more popular, you’ll probably need to find a way to keep the cat in the bag to prevent premature leaks if you don’t want them.Sep 30 21:34
schestowitzI highly doubt you’ll find a serious, competitive news site who is prepared to wait for the official announcement on mailing lists before posting news like this.Sep 30 21:34
schestowitzAs they say, if it aint’ new, it aint’ news.Sep 30 21:34
schestowitz"Sep 30 21:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: yep those kind of commentsSep 30 21:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: everything he put baicalleySep 30 21:35
sebsebsebin reply to peopleSep 30 21:35
sebsebsebschestowitz: also by the way he has a resume on his site, with a scroll effect, done in dum de dum, Flash!Sep 30 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johnsu01 @mlinksva but the lowest res OGV is of quite decent qualitySep 30 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] New book: "The Linux Programming Interface" http://lwn.net/Articles/407872/rssSep 30 21:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New book: "The Linux Programming Interface" [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.55 KBSep 30 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb !BT broadband deals "we sell you out for free" hurry, offer must end soon #phorm #spying #netneutrality #deact #actaSep 30 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @h_ingo When it hurts themselves, they start pushing against #swpats. At least a little. http://rww.to/cW8fc1 More trolls for MSFT, ORCLSep 30 21:50
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Right, but is it for other distros as well? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/vfs101-fingerprint-reader-driver-coming-for-ubuntu/Sep 30 21:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fingerprint Reader from Validity Inc. getting official Ubuntu support .::. Size~: 31.99 KBSep 30 21:53
sebsebsebhopefuly not to do with what I was asking you in ustream yesterday jono :(  ^Sep 30 21:54
schestowitzLet me check...Sep 30 22:01
schestowitzDistro?Sep 30 22:01
schestowitzWhat's a distro?Sep 30 22:01
schestowitzHeck, what's LinuxSep 30 22:01
schestowitzIt's omg ubuntu ubuntu ubuntuSep 30 22:01
MinceRubuntubuntubuntubuntuSep 30 22:02
*schestowitz looks at http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/vfs101-fingerprint-reader-driver-coming-for-ubuntu/Sep 30 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fingerprint Reader from Validity Inc. getting official Ubuntu support .::. Size~: 31.99 KBSep 30 22:04
schestowitz"OMG! reader Tobias Knight faced such a situation with a fingerprint reader made by Validity Inc. With the open-source driver on-hold, and wanting to make use of the device, he asked Validity Inc. whether they had any plans to provide support for Ubuntu users of their devices."Sep 30 22:04
schestowitzSeems like kernel issueSep 30 22:04
schestowitzNovell and Red Hat have their kernelSep 30 22:05
schestowitzOracle tooSep 30 22:05
schestowitzCanonical does not AFAIKSep 30 22:05
schestowitzMaybe they just select some modules to en/diableSep 30 22:05
schestowitz*sableSep 30 22:05
schestowitzUbuntu hardly submits Linux patchesSep 30 22:05
schestowitzBUT...Sep 30 22:05
schestowitzThe company at hand does say "Ubuntu"Sep 30 22:06
schestowitz    “We plan to release Ubuntu support package by the end of the year. It will include proprietary sensor daemon with sample for fprint. We do not have plans for Fedora, but the same package might work (no guarantee).”Sep 30 22:06
schestowitzNo Fedora?Sep 30 22:06
MinceRno debian?Sep 30 22:08
schestowitzhttp://release-blog.ubuntu.com/?p=134 Ubuntu 10.10 Release Candidate (Maverick Meerkat) ReleasedSep 30 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner giving Google more things to track? :-)Sep 30 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Primal Carnage Says Goodbye To Unigine: While many Linux gamers were looking forward to seeing the Primal Carnage ... http://bit.ly/aM4vaWSep 30 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: CLI Companion Makes It Easier To Use The Terminal http://goo.gl/HDl3Sep 30 22:13
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schestowitzHi, zoobabSep 30 22:20
schestowitzWhat did the troll send by mail?Sep 30 22:21
Ziomatrixcan anyone help me make heads or tales of HP's chosen CEO to be, former head honcho of SAP Leo Apothetek? Afterall SAP does help increase Windows Server penetration in enterprise with Duet.Sep 30 22:21
schestowitz[22:08] <MinceR> no debian?Sep 30 22:21
schestowitz[22:02] <MinceR> ubuntubuntubuntubuntuSep 30 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Validity Inc. is targetting just !Ubuntu rather than LSB. Let them know how you feel http://ur1.ca/1vdpc !linux !fedoraSep 30 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Great #GoldmanSachs cartoon http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7Bfb2f5ba5-eec9-47bc-8251-d5af4f90280a%7D.gifSep 30 22:25
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Ziomatrixon one hand Mr. Apotheker touts HP deversity in products and services: http://tinyurl.com/22top69 On the other he praised SAP's integration with MS. Office and server: http://tinyurl.com/2ekfzn5Sep 30 22:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP chooses Leo Apotheker as CEO and President | webOSroundup .::. Size~: 25.69 KBSep 30 22:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SAP, Microsoft crank up Duet partnership - CNET News .::. Size~: 58.48 KBSep 30 22:25
schestowitzOh dearSep 30 22:27
Ziomatrixschestowitz: do you mean that in a bad way? Do you have any dirt on SAP?Sep 30 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oh, no. Little #Microsoft is taking over #HP http://www.webosroundup.com/2010/09/hp-chooses-leo-apotheker-as-ceo-and-president/Sep 30 22:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP chooses Leo Apotheker as CEO and President | webOSroundup .::. Size~: 25.94 KBSep 30 22:30
schestowitzSAPSep 30 22:30
schestowitzMicrosoft wanted to buy SAPSep 30 22:30
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SAPSep 30 22:30
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schestowitzMicrosoft's #1 ally in Europe perhapsSep 30 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @dnoway: GNOME 2.32 released! http://is.gd/fCSof !gnomeSep 30 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @creativecommons Go check out the Blender Foundation's monumental short 3d film, Sintel! http://www.sintel.org/ http://ur1.ca/1qoi6Sep 30 22:31
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: I know SAP and MS. are high level partners. Folks consider Dell as too. But what else have they done?Sep 30 22:33
ZiomatrixI'm still amazed why they couldn't consider Todd BradelySep 30 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] WebP, a new image format for the Web (The Chromium Blog) http://lwn.net/Articles/407884/rssSep 30 22:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Strong Momentum in the Fight Against Weak Patents http://ur1.ca/1vb44 #swpats #uspto #epo #patents #microsoft #redhatSep 30 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Victory! Internet Censorship Bill is Delayed, For Now: https://eff.org/r.1rYSep 30 22:36
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: is there no limit to how far the software patent cartel can go in the tech industry?Sep 30 22:37
Ziomatrixat least there's some brighter news concerning said's future viabilitySep 30 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: What #Apple , #Microsoft , and !GNU !Linux Mean to One's Freedom and the Bundling Issue Revisited http://ur1.ca/1v8huSep 30 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @seeds: ♺ @motters: wiretapping the internet http://is.gd/fCzu0Sep 30 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] I ♥ @j5's post about how much !Fedora ♥s !Python 3: http://2tu.us/2qccSep 30 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: KDE Still Does Not Support LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/1v6kk A polite call for KDE to put its weight behind LibreOffice #odfSep 30 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What Apple, Microsoft, and GNU/Linux Mean to Ones Freedom and the Bundling Issue Revisited | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.26 KBSep 30 22:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @docufoundation Open Source Consortium supports The Document Foundation: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/Sep 30 22:40
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/25998571339 "If you want MS Office interop you should grab their Plugin before it disappears. It does ODS better than Office."Sep 30 22:40
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schestowitzZiomatrix: see the wiki page on SAPSep 30 22:40
schestowitzDell is very differentSep 30 22:40
Ziomatrixschestowitz: They seem like MS's minime concerning European lobbying. What's their market cap?Sep 30 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Sintel, the animated epic produced using !Blender is out now, and it is EPIC! www.reddit.com/tb/dl7ay !freeculture !cc !lp !faif !sfcSep 30 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The @ffii coins the word "mobbyists" for Microsoft lobbisys, who act like mob in !Linux sitesSep 30 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Arianna Huffington sickens me when she pretends to talk on behalf of poor people while having dinners with the nation's very richest people.Sep 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Interesting SF Bay Area event: How Can We Develop an Immune System for the Net? With Cerf, Dyson, Mockapetris https://eff.org/r.r7ZSep 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Is there a way to say "I had higher priorities to take care of first" instead of "Sorry, been really busy" in a positive way?Sep 30 22:50
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MinceRgnSep 30 22:54
schestowitz[22:41] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: They seem like MS's minime concerning European lobbying. What's their market cap?Sep 30 22:55
schestowitzSee WikilpediaSep 30 22:55
schestowitzI checked a while backSep 30 22:55
schestowitzZiomatrix: Microsoft already put a software head in HPSep 30 22:56
schestowitzJust before canning HurdSep 30 22:56
schestowitzNot for sexual harassment BTWSep 30 22:56
schestowitzThat's not why he was oustedSep 30 22:56
schestowitzAs was later confirmedSep 30 22:56
schestowitzAnd Oracle hired him straight awaySep 30 22:57
schestowitzSo much for "disgraced"Sep 30 22:57
Ziomatrixschestowitz: you can pass this drama off as a HBO specialSep 30 22:58
schestowitzMaybeSep 30 22:59
schestowitzIf Julia takes her top offSep 30 22:59
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Hurd was no saint but who knows what this CEO may unleash onto HP. He could be their Nero.Sep 30 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Google’s use of RIFF is not as a container, but a 12-byte header for binary crap… image storage wont be as reliable :/ #webpSep 30 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ubuntu 10.10 release candidate is out http://lwn.net/Articles/407878/rssSep 30 23:01
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MinceRBurning Rom?Sep 30 23:02
Ziomatrixschestowitz: either that or HP will gain abundant market share by becoming a key patent horder. Imagine what they can do with their own as well as acquired IP, including Palm. WebOS will pay the MS. tax?Sep 30 23:02
Ziomatrixschestowitz: you think Nokia's fate is as much sealed?Sep 30 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @sjsf CNN - #Ecuador declares emergency as police protest, president is attacked. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/09/30/ecuado ...Sep 30 23:10
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Viper550On the topic of KDE and libreoffice, I had a thoughtSep 30 23:10
Viper550koffice could easily compete ... but only if its crossplatform-ness were to be made a little more seamlessSep 30 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reports: #RedHat eyeing Austin among cities for possible new headquarters http://ur1.ca/1vf30Sep 30 23:11
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: thankyou for the information. I hope at least the new policies take time to set in so I can make the best of my product. The beauty of open source is that someone else will figure a way to build a platform influenced by the former's image. OnSep 30 23:13
Ziomatrixe glaring example is BeOS with Haiku.Sep 30 23:13
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oiaohmschestowitz: I don't expect KDE to back LibreOffice  any time soon.   They would have to announce some major KDE integration support.   KDE did not formal support OpenOffice either.Sep 30 23:15
Viper550to really soar, koffice needs better and easier to handle windows supportSep 30 23:17
oiaohmAt least there is a windows version today Viper550Sep 30 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] hmm. WOFF, and now WebP, formats that are exclusively for online use (who’d strip EXIF from images?); doesn’t feel like an OpenWebSep 30 23:18
oiaohmSo one step to that has been done Viper550Sep 30 23:18
Viper550oiaohm, its still a little difficult to install. and yet many major GTK-based applications have managed Windows ports a lot better than Qt onesSep 30 23:19
oiaohmBecareful here.Sep 30 23:20
oiaohmThere is a major difference between a GTK Gnome intergrated app and a GTK app on porting.   Same with a QT KDE intergrated app and a QT app on porting.Sep 30 23:20
Viper550that's why I said major GTK, not major GnomeSep 30 23:21
Viper550I meant like gimp, abiword, etcSep 30 23:21
oiaohmCatch is there are more QT KDE apps than QT appsSep 30 23:21
oiaohmHow many Qt apps are there without KDE hooks.Sep 30 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Sending the September issue of the Free Software Supporter out shortly, subscribe to receive it at http://www.fsf.org/fss !fsf !lp !gnuSep 30 23:21
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oiaohmThe ones without KDE hooks most of them already have simple to install windows versions.  Viper550Sep 30 23:22
oiaohmMost of the QT apps you hear of are not pure QT.Sep 30 23:23
Viper550yeah, kde integratedSep 30 23:23
oiaohmGnome intergrated and kde intergrated are both have been very hard to port to windows.Sep 30 23:24
oiaohmAnd both also lead to large installs of files on windows.Sep 30 23:24
oiaohmYes its a big step even having a installer that works.  Viper550Sep 30 23:24
oiaohmYes a better quality installer would be helpful.Sep 30 23:25
Viper550I've seen GTK app installers either download the files within the installer, or just ship their own copy of the gtk libraries set to use the windows theme engine/suchSep 30 23:26
schestowitzViper550: hiSep 30 23:27
oiaohmkoffice uses almost 800 megs of KDE support files. Viper550Sep 30 23:27
Viper550owSep 30 23:27
schestowitzStarts now!Sep 30 23:27
oiaohmNot something you would want to be downloading part way threw installer.Sep 30 23:27
cubevectorThe OW starts now? :)Sep 30 23:27
schestowitzhttp://www.trustedreviews.com/editorial/2007/07/22/The-Ow-Starts-Now/p1Sep 30 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Ow Starts Now - TrustedReviews - TrustedReviews .::. Size~: 20.07 KBSep 30 23:28
cubevectorI think the OW started with Windows 1.0Sep 30 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @seeds those who have the power to wiretap your life are the most dangerous. the gatekeepers always abuse their power because they a ...Sep 30 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Almost 50% of people taking our poll think meritocracy is a fair system "sometimes" - what about you? | http://bit.ly/9F1yY6Sep 30 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Poll: meritocracy and fairness | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.09 KBSep 30 23:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/party-the-real-way-for-ubuntu-10-10-says-vancouver-loco-team/Sep 30 23:29
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oiaohmBasically people ask why more QT applications have not be ported.   Mostly because they are KDE intergrated and bundling KDE into each application is not really that great of an option.Sep 30 23:30
oiaohmIf you want a harddrive.Sep 30 23:30
oiaohmIts why KDE installer is more like a package manager than a general installer.  Its about the only way that works kinda sanely.   Viper550Sep 30 23:31
schestowitzcubevector: that was The HowlSep 30 23:31
schestowitzBallmer on 1.0Sep 30 23:32
cubevectorah, you are rightSep 30 23:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCkSep 30 23:32
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cubevectortoo bad Ballmer didn't sell Xenix :)Sep 30 23:32
schestowitzHe'd have to wear his glassesSep 30 23:33
oiaohmHmmSep 30 23:35
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oiaohm1.0 was around at the same time MS was selling XenixSep 30 23:35
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oiaohmSo its possible cubevectorSep 30 23:35
hazzyI am upset :/Sep 30 23:35
hazzyhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/09/30/1849242/White-House-Pressuring-Registrars-To-Block-SitesSep 30 23:36
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cubevectoryou know, I don't think Xenix had XSep 30 23:36
cubevectorI can't find a single picture of Xenix with XSep 30 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's paid AstroTurfers (the euphemism is "TEs", see http://ur1.ca/1vf9e ) tries recruding FOSS people http://ur1.ca/1vf9fSep 30 23:36
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oiaohmNormal MS design.Sep 30 23:37
oiaohmIf you wanted X for Xenix you arquired it from a third party maker.  cubevectorSep 30 23:37
oiaohmTime of Xenix there were 8 different closed source versions of X11Sep 30 23:38
cubevectorI must have missed them all thenSep 30 23:38
cubevectoroh except Sun4'sSep 30 23:39
cubevectornot sure that counts thoughSep 30 23:39
oiaohmHeck there were 3 closed source X11 servers for dosSep 30 23:39
oiaohmYes not something nice.Sep 30 23:39
cubevectorDesqview/X?Sep 30 23:40
oiaohmThat is 1 of them cubevectorSep 30 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I meant "recruiting" in that last dent. I am going to write a detailed post about it later. Microsoft Canada has done this for a _while_.Sep 30 23:40
oiaohmDesqview also did a Xenix version for a while.Sep 30 23:40
oiaohmXenix died really fast in the software production world.  cubevectorSep 30 23:42
cubevectoryeah I knowSep 30 23:43
oiaohmdid not help that freebsd out performed it.Sep 30 23:43
cubevectorI was using it in 1989, then I never saw it after thatSep 30 23:43
oiaohmAnd had X11 and other things out box for free.Sep 30 23:43
oiaohmYou must have seen one of the really rare installs cubevectorSep 30 23:43
oiaohmNormally by 1987 most were migrated to something else.Sep 30 23:44
cubevectorhmm, actually it might have been SCO Unix System V by thenSep 30 23:44
oiaohmThat would sound more about right.Sep 30 23:44
cubevectorI know I had Xenix 286 at one pointSep 30 23:44
oiaohmXenix was one of the rare unixs that did not come out box with X11 server.Sep 30 23:45
oiaohmAnd manaully addding a X11 server to it was a pain in ass.Sep 30 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Amazing free culture projects coming through @kickstarter eg latest @novacut rethinking video production http://kck.st/axwKWjSep 30 23:46
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cubevectoryeah I can't even recall seeing Unix System V with XSep 30 23:47
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cubevectorI think SunOS was the first X window system I ever sawSep 30 23:47
Viper550also, I'm trying to make a page that will position XMPP as a true WLM killer.Sep 30 23:47
oiaohmfreex86 supported System VSep 30 23:47
oiaohmopps Free86 supported System VSep 30 23:48
oiaohmSo yes you could put a free X11 server on it if you wanted to build it your self.Sep 30 23:48
oiaohmfree86 did not support xenix at all.  Ie you were up the creek.Sep 30 23:49
cubevector"Versions 1-6    Monochrome only, ran on DEC VS100's displays connected to VAXen and VAXstations 1 and 2"Sep 30 23:49
cubevectorso obviously DEC was an early adopterSep 30 23:50
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cubevectorXDM didn't exist until 1987Sep 30 23:55
cubevectoroops, 1988 ratherSep 30 23:56
_Goblinsebsebseb: sorry....I was afk....I'll look at the link now.Sep 30 23:59
sebsebseb_Goblin: ok :)  maybe jono should as well if he hasn't seen alreadySep 30 23:59
sebsebseb_Goblin: make sure your sound works, or it will suckSep 30 23:59

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