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Ender2070shuttleworth admitted he was into open coreOct 18 01:27
Ender2070he event sent someone into the gnome advisory board to push the ideaOct 18 01:28
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scienteswowOct 18 02:39
Ender2070?Oct 18 03:05
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nenolodopencore is fucking stupidOct 18 04:37
nenolodthe copyright reassignment requirement is why many people have problems working on GNU projectsOct 18 04:37
Ender2070I agreeOct 18 04:38
Ender2070except that at least GNU's agreement states they will never make the code proprietaryOct 18 04:38
Ender2070canonical makes no such promiseOct 18 04:38
Ender2070I watched the community change from freedom loving to whatever just works on linux, freedom or notOct 18 04:40
nenolodEnder2070: there is no point in freedom if the software doesn't workOct 18 04:40
Ender2070trueOct 18 04:41
nenolodEnder2070: that said, most of ubuntu's software is crap and doesn't workOct 18 04:41
Ender2070i'll give you that and its one of the reasons why i'll use proprietary software untill free software replaces itOct 18 04:41
nenolodhow do you define 'replace'Oct 18 04:41
Ender2070worksOct 18 04:41
Ender2070:)Oct 18 04:41
nenolodi use JIRA, for exampleOct 18 04:41
nenolodthere are plenty of free bugtrackers, but they all have horrible UXOct 18 04:42
Ender2070I use google docsOct 18 04:42
Ender2070plenty of free office suitesOct 18 04:42
Ender2070yet no good web based onesOct 18 04:42
Ender2070nvidia drivers is another exampleOct 18 04:43
Ender2070if I use nouveau my laptop will melt or burnOct 18 04:43
nenolodthere is a free replacement for thatOct 18 04:43
nenolodit's calledOct 18 04:43
nenolodbuy a laptop with an intel gpu in itOct 18 04:43
nenolodor a radeon mobile gpuOct 18 04:43
Ender2070ill go intelOct 18 04:44
Ender2070im never ever touching ATIOct 18 04:44
Ender2070err AMDOct 18 04:44
Ender2070but back in 2008 this was the only linux laptop I could buy from DellOct 18 04:44
nenolodwhy's that?Oct 18 04:45
nenolodumOct 18 04:45
nenolodhave you considered just buying a normal dell laptop then installing linux on it?Oct 18 04:45
Ender2070and pay microsoft?Oct 18 04:45
Ender2070no thanksOct 18 04:45
*nenolod shrugsOct 18 04:45
Ender2070the same laptop would've actually cost me $200 more with windowsOct 18 04:46
nenolodthe ubuntu laptops all had crappy configurationsOct 18 04:46
Ender2070I know what not to buy next timeOct 18 04:46
Ender2070this one is the m1330Oct 18 04:46
Ender2070xpsOct 18 04:46
nenolodto get decent laptops you're just going to have to accept the microsoft taxOct 18 04:47
nenolodthe odd thing is i can buy servers from dell with no OS loadedOct 18 04:47
Ender2070unfortunately you're rightOct 18 04:47
nenolodcan't do that with desktops/laptops thoughOct 18 04:47
Ender2070dell doesnt even offer linux ones in canada anymoreOct 18 04:47
nenolodthat's cause nobody bought themOct 18 04:47
nenolodbecause the configs suckedOct 18 04:47
Ender2070yeah some of them had worse configsOct 18 04:48
nenolodwelcome to capitalismOct 18 04:48
Ender2070this one had the same config as the base xps m1330 but without the fingerprint readerOct 18 04:48
nenolod...eh?Oct 18 04:48
nenolodwhy would they take out the fp readerOct 18 04:48
nenolodlinux supports thoseOct 18 04:48
Ender2070i dont knowOct 18 04:48
Ender2070dell is stupidOct 18 04:49
Ender2070im probably not going to buy another oneOct 18 04:49
Ender2070also back then nvidia was the best anywaysOct 18 04:49
Ender2070even with closed driversOct 18 04:49
Ender2070ATI didnt have open driversOct 18 04:49
nenolodthis girl i know has a dell precision laptopOct 18 04:49
Ender2070and ATI's drivers were horrificOct 18 04:49
nenolodit's a pretty nice piece of hardwareOct 18 04:50
nenolodi think she paid like 3 grand for it thoughOct 18 04:50
Ender2070yeah im poorOct 18 04:50
Ender2070i had to lease mineOct 18 04:50
Ender2070still paying for itOct 18 04:50
nenolodyeah she works at googleOct 18 04:50
nenolodlolzOct 18 04:50
Ender2070google is awesomeOct 18 04:50
Ender2070i'd love to work thereOct 18 04:51
nenolodi dunnoOct 18 04:51
nenolodgoogle is becoming a big company - so the culture is changing internallyOct 18 04:51
nenolodthat saidOct 18 04:51
Ender2070i understandOct 18 04:51
nenolodi want a google self-driving carOct 18 04:51
Ender2070its probably going to go down hillOct 18 04:51
Ender2070the environmentOct 18 04:52
nenolodwell, android is on apache2 licenseOct 18 04:52
nenolodwhich does not allow tivoizationOct 18 04:52
nenolodbut they are allowing motorola and htc to tivoizeOct 18 04:52
Ender2070hmmOct 18 04:52
Ender2070damn htcOct 18 04:52
Ender2070i already knew motorola was evilOct 18 04:53
Ender2070i had hope for htcOct 18 04:53
Ender2070im an android fan tooOct 18 04:54
Ender2070you know whats funny about it too?Oct 18 04:55
Ender2070ACCESS now develops apps for Android, having abandoned ALPOct 18 04:55
Ender2070They ported their terrible PalmOS graffiti technology overOct 18 04:56
Ender2070They used to hire someone who would troll the Android forums, basing the platformOct 18 04:57
Ender2070guess whoOct 18 04:57
Ender2070basing/bashing*Oct 18 04:58
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