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Ender2070 | shuttleworth admitted he was into open core | Oct 18 01:27 |
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Ender2070 | he event sent someone into the gnome advisory board to push the idea | Oct 18 01:28 |
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scientes | wow | Oct 18 02:39 |
Ender2070 | ? | Oct 18 03:05 |
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nenolod | opencore is fucking stupid | Oct 18 04:37 |
nenolod | the copyright reassignment requirement is why many people have problems working on GNU projects | Oct 18 04:37 |
Ender2070 | I agree | Oct 18 04:38 |
Ender2070 | except that at least GNU's agreement states they will never make the code proprietary | Oct 18 04:38 |
Ender2070 | canonical makes no such promise | Oct 18 04:38 |
Ender2070 | I watched the community change from freedom loving to whatever just works on linux, freedom or not | Oct 18 04:40 |
nenolod | Ender2070: there is no point in freedom if the software doesn't work | Oct 18 04:40 |
Ender2070 | true | Oct 18 04:41 |
nenolod | Ender2070: that said, most of ubuntu's software is crap and doesn't work | Oct 18 04:41 |
Ender2070 | i'll give you that and its one of the reasons why i'll use proprietary software untill free software replaces it | Oct 18 04:41 |
nenolod | how do you define 'replace' | Oct 18 04:41 |
Ender2070 | works | Oct 18 04:41 |
Ender2070 | :) | Oct 18 04:41 |
nenolod | i use JIRA, for example | Oct 18 04:41 |
nenolod | there are plenty of free bugtrackers, but they all have horrible UX | Oct 18 04:42 |
Ender2070 | I use google docs | Oct 18 04:42 |
Ender2070 | plenty of free office suites | Oct 18 04:42 |
Ender2070 | yet no good web based ones | Oct 18 04:42 |
Ender2070 | nvidia drivers is another example | Oct 18 04:43 |
Ender2070 | if I use nouveau my laptop will melt or burn | Oct 18 04:43 |
nenolod | there is a free replacement for that | Oct 18 04:43 |
nenolod | it's called | Oct 18 04:43 |
nenolod | buy a laptop with an intel gpu in it | Oct 18 04:43 |
nenolod | or a radeon mobile gpu | Oct 18 04:43 |
Ender2070 | ill go intel | Oct 18 04:44 |
Ender2070 | im never ever touching ATI | Oct 18 04:44 |
Ender2070 | err AMD | Oct 18 04:44 |
Ender2070 | but back in 2008 this was the only linux laptop I could buy from Dell | Oct 18 04:44 |
nenolod | why's that? | Oct 18 04:45 |
nenolod | um | Oct 18 04:45 |
nenolod | have you considered just buying a normal dell laptop then installing linux on it? | Oct 18 04:45 |
Ender2070 | and pay microsoft? | Oct 18 04:45 |
Ender2070 | no thanks | Oct 18 04:45 |
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Ender2070 | the same laptop would've actually cost me $200 more with windows | Oct 18 04:46 |
nenolod | the ubuntu laptops all had crappy configurations | Oct 18 04:46 |
Ender2070 | I know what not to buy next time | Oct 18 04:46 |
Ender2070 | this one is the m1330 | Oct 18 04:46 |
Ender2070 | xps | Oct 18 04:46 |
nenolod | to get decent laptops you're just going to have to accept the microsoft tax | Oct 18 04:47 |
nenolod | the odd thing is i can buy servers from dell with no OS loaded | Oct 18 04:47 |
Ender2070 | unfortunately you're right | Oct 18 04:47 |
nenolod | can't do that with desktops/laptops though | Oct 18 04:47 |
Ender2070 | dell doesnt even offer linux ones in canada anymore | Oct 18 04:47 |
nenolod | that's cause nobody bought them | Oct 18 04:47 |
nenolod | because the configs sucked | Oct 18 04:47 |
Ender2070 | yeah some of them had worse configs | Oct 18 04:48 |
nenolod | welcome to capitalism | Oct 18 04:48 |
Ender2070 | this one had the same config as the base xps m1330 but without the fingerprint reader | Oct 18 04:48 |
nenolod | ...eh? | Oct 18 04:48 |
nenolod | why would they take out the fp reader | Oct 18 04:48 |
nenolod | linux supports those | Oct 18 04:48 |
Ender2070 | i dont know | Oct 18 04:48 |
Ender2070 | dell is stupid | Oct 18 04:49 |
Ender2070 | im probably not going to buy another one | Oct 18 04:49 |
Ender2070 | also back then nvidia was the best anyways | Oct 18 04:49 |
Ender2070 | even with closed drivers | Oct 18 04:49 |
Ender2070 | ATI didnt have open drivers | Oct 18 04:49 |
nenolod | this girl i know has a dell precision laptop | Oct 18 04:49 |
Ender2070 | and ATI's drivers were horrific | Oct 18 04:49 |
nenolod | it's a pretty nice piece of hardware | Oct 18 04:50 |
nenolod | i think she paid like 3 grand for it though | Oct 18 04:50 |
Ender2070 | yeah im poor | Oct 18 04:50 |
Ender2070 | i had to lease mine | Oct 18 04:50 |
Ender2070 | still paying for it | Oct 18 04:50 |
nenolod | yeah she works at google | Oct 18 04:50 |
nenolod | lolz | Oct 18 04:50 |
Ender2070 | google is awesome | Oct 18 04:50 |
Ender2070 | i'd love to work there | Oct 18 04:51 |
nenolod | i dunno | Oct 18 04:51 |
nenolod | google is becoming a big company - so the culture is changing internally | Oct 18 04:51 |
nenolod | that said | Oct 18 04:51 |
Ender2070 | i understand | Oct 18 04:51 |
nenolod | i want a google self-driving car | Oct 18 04:51 |
Ender2070 | its probably going to go down hill | Oct 18 04:51 |
Ender2070 | the environment | Oct 18 04:52 |
nenolod | well, android is on apache2 license | Oct 18 04:52 |
nenolod | which does not allow tivoization | Oct 18 04:52 |
nenolod | but they are allowing motorola and htc to tivoize | Oct 18 04:52 |
Ender2070 | hmm | Oct 18 04:52 |
Ender2070 | damn htc | Oct 18 04:52 |
Ender2070 | i already knew motorola was evil | Oct 18 04:53 |
Ender2070 | i had hope for htc | Oct 18 04:53 |
Ender2070 | im an android fan too | Oct 18 04:54 |
Ender2070 | you know whats funny about it too? | Oct 18 04:55 |
Ender2070 | ACCESS now develops apps for Android, having abandoned ALP | Oct 18 04:55 |
Ender2070 | They ported their terrible PalmOS graffiti technology over | Oct 18 04:56 |
Ender2070 | They used to hire someone who would troll the Android forums, basing the platform | Oct 18 04:57 |
Ender2070 | guess who | Oct 18 04:57 |
Ender2070 | basing/bashing* | Oct 18 04:58 |
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