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| StarCraft_II | Why shouuld I boycott Novell... | Oct 24 02:19 |
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| StarCraft_II | ? | Oct 24 02:19 |
| WireWulf | many many many reasons | Oct 24 02:29 |
| StarCraft_II | Such as? | Oct 24 02:41 |
| WireWulf | they are M$ incorp | Oct 24 02:43 |
| WireWulf | and M$ incorp is Evil | Oct 24 02:44 |
| StarCraft_II | Microsoft Incorporated? | Oct 24 02:44 |
| StarCraft_II | Meh... I use Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.... downloaded it from The Pirate Bay however...also torrented office and torrented visio studio (the Ultimate editions) | Oct 24 02:46 |
| StarCraft_II | I'm boycotting MS | Oct 24 02:46 |
| StarCraft_II | :) | Oct 24 02:46 |
| StarCraft_II | not a single piece of software on my computer has been paid for (apart from starcraft 2) | Oct 24 02:46 |
| *WireWulf has not paid for software either however he has free legal software | Oct 24 02:47 | |
| WireWulf | except for the games | Oct 24 02:48 |
| StarCraft_II | do you play games under MS? | Oct 24 02:48 |
| StarCraft_II | or Linux with WIne | Oct 24 02:48 |
| StarCraft_II | ? | Oct 24 02:48 |
| StarCraft_II | Wine* | Oct 24 02:48 |
| StarCraft_II | Btw Google Chrome is a piece of shit. So buggy | Oct 24 02:50 |
| StarCraft_II | I switched back to firefox | Oct 24 02:50 |
| WireWulf | wine | Oct 24 02:50 |
| WireWulf | and I use links or opeera | Oct 24 02:50 |
| StarCraft_II | I downloaded some BSDs and Linuxes, and it would never finish the download | Oct 24 02:50 |
| StarCraft_II | like 0 seconds left | Oct 24 02:50 |
| StarCraft_II | and never finished | Oct 24 02:50 |
| StarCraft_II | it did this multiple times yesterday | Oct 24 02:50 |
| StarCraft_II | so I said **** this I'm going back to FireFox | Oct 24 02:51 |
| WireWulf | StarCraft_II: also could you join #techrights as we hardly talk here | Oct 24 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://howappealing.law.com/102410.html#039392 | Oct 24 19:35 |
| schestowitz | ""Texas Supreme Court rejects provision in law that protects one company from asbestos claims": Yesterday's edition of The Dallas Morning News contained an article that begins, "The Texas Supreme Court ruled Friday that a law specifically designed to protect one company from older asbestos claims was unconstitutional. The ruling in favor of a plaintiff was a bit of a surprise from the court, which has been criticized by trial | Oct 24 19:35 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: How Appealing .::. Size~: 73.78 KB | Oct 24 19:35 |
| schestowitz | lawyers for siding more often with business defendants in these kinds of cases." " | Oct 24 19:35 |
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| josex | hey schestowitz.. | Oct 24 22:12 |
| josex | If you like this argument, you can post it: http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Choose_your_words#Untried_alternative:_codify_that_patent_law_be_subservient_to_free_speech_and_promoting_the_progress_or_accept_this_implicitly_.28as_happens_in_the_US_via_their_Constitution.29 | Oct 24 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Choose your words - software patents wiki (en.swpat.org) .::. Size~: 65.73 KB | Oct 24 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Oct 24 22:13 |
| josex | let me know if the link i posted works (it uses paren in the url) | Oct 24 22:13 |
| josex | The topic is about finding legal words to help remove software patents | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Let me read it... | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I learned one trick | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I say "patent monopoly" a lot | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | See how in Techrights I do this every time I do a post about patents, once at least | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | We need to bind those words | Oct 24 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Interchangeable and also wok in conjunction | Oct 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Monopoly has bad association | Oct 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Standard Oil.. | Oct 24 22:15 |
| josex | yes, i like monopoly.. but i will say this, i have tried finding alternatives depending on the forum.. eg, if addressing a lawyer that is being reasonable | Oct 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Yes, the wording I'm sometimes aware of | Oct 24 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Like FFII's zoobab says, they say "technical" a lot | Oct 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Like 37 times in one article | Oct 24 22:16 |
| josex | (I agree with patent monopoly) | Oct 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | GNU also has list of words to avoid | Oct 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | in patents, avoid 'protect', 'defend', 'defensive' etc | Oct 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Innovation, incentive... | Oct 24 22:16 |
| schestowitz | josex: just make a bait of saying someone asked for a patent monopoly | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Not granted | Oct 24 22:17 |
| josex | with lots of respect to gnu, i sometimes use "intellectual property" (not to mention being a major user of "open source" and "linux") depending on context | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Now won | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | or awarded | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Jim demanded a patent monopoly | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | The USPTO gave him a patent monopoly | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | As a protectionist measure to impede competition | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Not protect | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | protectionist | Oct 24 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Like armed man on Mexican border | Oct 24 22:18 |
| josex | again, in order to have a conversation with someone that might be reasonable, i am willing to use various terms carefully | Oct 24 22:18 |
| josex | but "monopoly" does get to the heart of the matter | Oct 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | RAND | Oct 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | RMS has a new expansion for R.A.N.D. | Oct 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | FRAND~=FRIEND | Oct 24 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Copy-right->copy-wrong | Oct 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | what word better to use | Oct 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Exclusive control? | Oct 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Jim has exclusive control over his text? | Oct 24 22:19 |
| josex | copyright is copy-removalof-right | Oct 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Scrarcity enforcement | Oct 24 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Sharing elimination | Oct 24 22:20 |
| josex | btw, just came across a piece by RMS that is a few years old but is very good | Oct 24 22:20 |
| josex | let me look up the link... | Oct 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Dissemination eliminator | Oct 24 22:20 |
| schestowitz | josex: ok | Oct 24 22:20 |
| josex | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/software-literary-patents.html | Oct 24 22:21 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: Software Patents and Literary Patents - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 20.29 KB | Oct 24 22:21 |
| josex | reading through that captures some very important points and is a very appropriate analogy of swpats with literature pats | Oct 24 22:21 |
| schestowitz | did you see the Potter story? | Oct 24 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Patented plots? | Oct 24 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Lawsuit... | Oct 24 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Imagine that... | Oct 24 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Like RMS' symphony analogy | Oct 24 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Can't write a darn book | Oct 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Have to look at some plot database | Oct 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | search for: "3 people, 1 lost in forest, dog, leash..." | Oct 24 22:23 |
| schestowitz | Wilful infringement? | Oct 24 22:23 |
| josex | sorry, was answering a comment on that page i mentioned (I may have to clarify some things)... | Oct 24 22:33 |
| josex | did not hear about the Potter story, though I expect from time to time someone somewhere is using patents on fiction. | Oct 24 22:34 |
| josex | Anyway, I don't remember if I had looked at the RMS literature analogy before, but it is really great. Also this person wrote a good piece way back in 1991. It apparently was addressing the State Street (new or useful). State Street is now void because of Bilski clarifications I think. | Oct 24 22:39 |
| josex | link is... | Oct 24 22:39 |
| josex | http://www.philsalin.com/patents.html | Oct 24 22:39 |
| schestowitz | nic | Oct 24 22:41 |
| schestowitz | nice | Oct 24 22:41 |
| schestowitz | dented: "Freedom of Speech in Software http://www.philsalin.com/patents.html by Phil Salin 7/15/91 (via jose_x)" | Oct 24 22:42 |
| schestowitz | josex: you can also autojoin #techrights | Oct 24 22:45 |
| schestowitz | Most of us are there now. There are three channel, this one is the least active | Oct 24 22:45 |
| schestowitz | *nnels | Oct 24 22:45 |
| josex | ok, i'll just go there.. | Oct 24 22:46 |
| josex | .. do you quit with / quit? | Oct 24 22:46 |
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