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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: http://twitter.com/DeepakChopra/status/26217977139Oct 03 01:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Deepak Chopra: And you make me smile:)"@R ... .::. Size~: 12.78 KBOct 03 01:04
schestowitzTell @DeepakChopra to dtop being a disgusting FRAUDOct 03 01:41
schestowitzThese people kill peopleOct 03 01:41
schestowitzThey teach them to NOT UNDERSTAND REAL MEDICINEOct 03 01:41
schestowitzme: "@DeepakChopra  well, @ReformedBuddha is right. Your fraud teaches people not to rely on _REAL_ medicine and truth. You kill them for $$$."Oct 03 01:43
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: he doesn't care.Oct 03 01:47
FurnaceBoyHis millions find you amusing.Oct 03 01:47
FurnaceBoyjust as environmentalists amuse Billion Gates.Oct 03 01:47
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schestowitzI knowOct 03 02:10
schestowitzIt's sadOct 03 02:10
schestowitzPhysics gave upOct 03 02:10
schestowitzhe preaches to the many ignorantOct 03 02:10
schestowitzAnd they believe such frauds simply because they WANT to believe it. It's like the Fraud Popoff and Uri GellerOct 03 02:11
schestowitzhttp://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/janssen-gets-acuform-tech-rights/2010-08-06Oct 03 02:50
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Janssen gets Acuform tech rights - FierceBiotech .::. Size~: 45.75 KBOct 03 02:50
schestowitz"tech rights"Oct 03 02:50
schestowitzThe guy whom the fraud fed replies to me: http://twitter.com/ReformedBuddha/statuses/26221610323Oct 03 02:51
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Kyle Lovett: @schestowitz Cool some1 wh ... .::. Size~: 12.81 KBOct 03 02:51
schestowitz@schestowitz Cool some1 who agrees finally! hehe u might enjoy the guru parody then http://tinyurl.com/32vdnur & maybe @DeepakChopra will 2Oct 03 02:51
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The Reformed Buddhist: Exclusive Interview with Spiritual Author Depuck Choorpi .::. Size~: 134.39 KBOct 03 02:51
schestowitz:-)Oct 03 02:51
qu1j0t3hmOct 03 02:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ReformedBuddhaOct 03 02:52
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Kyle Lovett (ReformedBuddha) on Twitter .::. Size~: 50.15 KBOct 03 02:52
schestowitzThe Chopra sheep  curse himOct 03 02:52
qu1j0t3yes i went to his twitterOct 03 02:52
schestowitzWhen I tell off the BBC people they sometimes do thisOct 03 02:52
schestowitzUnleash their sheep on me at TwitterOct 03 02:52
schestowitzMicrosoft less frequentlyOct 03 02:52
schestowitzLike when Zune fans troll e thereOct 03 02:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/26216805182 "I´d be surprised if Sun/Oracle still provided updates for it. Oh, and it shipped with an ancient version of glibc 4 some reason"Oct 03 02:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / fcassia: @schestowitz I´d be surpri ... .::. Size~: 9.44 KBOct 03 02:53
schestowitzCassia is coolOct 03 02:53
schestowitzYou should follow him tooOct 03 02:53
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/fcassia/statuses/26216737365 "I used Sun JDS Linux... it was 2004. GREAT desktop and integration, but 2.4 kernel and based on Novell SLED 1.0 or thereabouts"Oct 03 02:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / fcassia: @schestowitz I used Sun JD ... .::. Size~: 9.43 KBOct 03 02:54
schestowitz"@fcassia I know someone whom definitely should follow you"Oct 03 02:54
qu1j0t3ah yesOct 03 02:55
qu1j0t3following nowOct 03 02:55
qu1j0t3he talks to BinaBecker, also great valueOct 03 02:56
qu1j0t3thxOct 03 02:56
schestowitzNow I'm trolled by the Chopra sheep/trollsOct 03 02:57
schestowitzLet's feed the sheepleOct 03 02:57
schestowitz:-)Oct 03 02:57
schestowitzOne by oneOct 03 02:57
schestowitzIt's funOct 03 02:57
Ender2070lolOct 03 02:57
schestowitz"Doctors can't cure a thing w/o the existence of the body's healing powers. Seeing its consciousness is the key. (@DeepakChopra)" http://twitter.com/#!/IAMSpirituality/status/26225858187Oct 03 02:57
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schestowitz"@IAMSpirituality "consciousness is the key," you say. Define "consciousness". Don't be as insane as @DeepakChopra whose practice kills"Oct 03 02:59
schestowitz"@DeepakChopra @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha Goodness invasion of the body snatchers :)"Oct 03 02:59
schestowitz"@avarohanam re "@DeepakChopra @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha Goodness invasion of the body snatchers :)" see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4 #k00k #fraud"Oct 03 03:01
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/WinonaRyderCup/status/26224462104 "@schestowitz @ReformedBuddha power of the spirit is amazing. You 2 above just having trouble releasing yours. @DeepakChopra"Oct 03 03:02
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schestowitz"@WinonaRyderCup "power of the spirit is amazing," you say. Define "spirit". Don't be as insane as @DeepakChopra whose practice kills ill"Oct 03 03:03
schestowitz"It's all good. I know. It worked for me. @DeepakChopra @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha" http://twitter.com/#!/WinonaRyderCup/status/26224341085Oct 03 03:04
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schestowitz"@DeepakChopra: Murder? Arrest me @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha is rt. yr fraud teaches ppl not 2 rely on REAL medicine n truth. U kill them" http://twitter.com/#!/oberti76/status/26224004887Oct 03 03:05
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schestowitz"@oberti76  Mr. @DeepakChopra is no better than Popoff, whose fraud also led to easily preventable deaths   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y "Oct 03 03:07
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - James Randi Debunks Peter Popoff Faith Healer   .::. Size~: 121.09 KBOct 03 03:07
schestowitz"@DeepakChopra @schestowitz "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~Bertrand Russell" http://twitter.com/#!/Clarissa_Yaotl/status/26223899777Oct 03 03:08
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schestowitz"@schestowitz what is real medicine and truth?" http://twitter.com/#!/tmay62002/status/26223875870Oct 03 03:08
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schestowitz"@tmay62002 there are tools and methods for empirically testing for facts. What @DeepakChopra did is hijack terminology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4"Oct 03 03:10
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schestowitzBoy. This is funOct 03 03:10
schestowitzI am fed so much by his sheepOct 03 03:10
schestowitz"@DeepakChopra @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha Dr. Chopra is above this offensive trash talk, but I'm not and can't tolerate it. Please refrain" http://twitter.com/#!/grecorosana/status/26223706788Oct 03 03:10
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schestowitz"@grecorosana he got no "trash talk" from me. "Trash talk" is what he does for a living by misusing scientific words. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4"Oct 03 03:13
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/Clarissa_Yaotl/status/26223626810 "Never limit yourself because of others' limited imagination; never limit others because of your own limited imagination"Oct 03 03:13
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Oh dear, you offended DOCTOR Chopra the wealthy authority.Oct 03 03:14
FurnaceBoycareful, don't TRASH TALK Fuckerberg or you'll get the same reaction from AriannaOct 03 03:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: N.B. DOCTOR Chopra is a better person than youOct 03 03:15
FurnaceBoywe know this, because he's RICHEROct 03 03:15
schestowitz"@Clarissa_Yaotl This arbitrary quote is the best you have for defending the fraud from @DeepakChopra ? Ignorance has real victims."Oct 03 03:15
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: heheOct 03 03:16
schestowitz"@janerijaelesq  just repeating it is not enough. Find out what your idol does  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4 he admits he's faking"Oct 03 03:18
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - Deepak Chopra Interview with Richard Dawkins   .::. Size~: 123.57 KBOct 03 03:18
schestowitzHe tweeted me, so his sheep flood meOct 03 03:18
schestowitzBut this is funOct 03 03:19
schestowitzif I can educate some of his sheep with pointers, why not?Oct 03 03:19
schestowitz"chill out... as if you yourself are god & can distinguish the REAL truth lol SMH" http://twitter.com/#!/Clarissa_Yaotl/status/26223535877Oct 03 03:20
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schestowitzIs it you who got me started on it?Oct 03 03:20
schestowitzWas it you who pasted some URL I replied to?Oct 03 03:20
FurnaceBoyyaOct 03 03:20
schestowitzDarnOct 03 03:21
schestowitzWell, let's have fun with it...Oct 03 03:21
schestowitzCause he's confronting me... and he has just sheep and fraud on his sideOct 03 03:21
qu1j0t3oh, did u get a response from DOCTOR Chopra?Oct 03 03:22
schestowitz"@Clarissa_Yaotl God? Who, @DeepakChopra ? If @DeepakChopra is God, then who created @DeepakChopra ? Study factual basis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4"Oct 03 03:23
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: yesOct 03 03:23
schestowitzIn his key pageOct 03 03:23
schestowitzwith over 300,000 followersOct 03 03:23
qu1j0t3wow. no wonder you're being stormedOct 03 03:23
schestowitzI can't respond fast enoughOct 03 03:23
qu1j0t3it's hopeless to contend with such a b0t armyOct 03 03:23
schestowitz"@schestowitz @ReformedBuddha maybe you both can get flouride treatment @DeepakChopra" http://twitter.com/#!/MunYoOo/status/26223518162Oct 03 03:27
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.18 KBOct 03 03:27
schestowitz"@MunYoOo it is hardly just a joke when people are led to be deluded so that a quack becomes rich at the expense of their ignorance"Oct 03 03:28
schestowitzqu1j0t3: yeahOct 03 03:28
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/DeepakChopra/status/26223166196Oct 03 03:28
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://twitter.com/Tymlee/status/26193658615Oct 03 03:29
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Michelle Matthews: @qu1j0t3 Be careful what y ... .::. Size~: 12.67 KBOct 03 03:29
schestowitzI seem to be gaining followers from thisOct 03 03:31
schestowitzI reckon some of his sceptics watch his pageOct 03 03:32
schestowitz"@DeepakChopra @schestowitz doesn't have much of a life to live if he tweeds more than Ashton Kutcher! Therefore why would he have faith." http://twitter.com/#!/Grace_fi/status/26226137749Oct 03 03:32
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qu1j0t3well you'll SURE gain a heap of attention.Oct 03 03:32
qu1j0t3i never thought about the implications of being drawn into a spat with somebody with an ARMY of 300KOct 03 03:33
qu1j0t3that's ... intenseOct 03 03:33
qu1j0t3i bet they're digging aroundOct 03 03:33
qu1j0t3i've got into spats on Tw with small dudesOct 03 03:34
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schestowitz"@Grace_fi you speak about time to live. Well, medical treatment adds time to people's lives, @DeepakChopra lies to these people to get rich"Oct 03 03:34
schestowitz"@schestowitz love that video." http://twitter.com/#!/ReformedBuddha/status/26227059041Oct 03 03:35
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schestowitz"@ReformedBuddha you're welcome"Oct 03 03:35
qu1j0t3best summarised like this: http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/26054652258Oct 03 03:35
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schestowitz"@schestowitz @DeepakChopra Spirit? Hmmm, self actualization? All is good. Love. It helped me beat cancer. I can't lose. Even if I lose. :-)" http://twitter.com/#!/WinonaRyderCup/status/26227369648Oct 03 03:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.01 KBOct 03 03:36
qu1j0t3happened more than once.Oct 03 03:36
qu1j0t3i know the type nowOct 03 03:36
schestowitz"@WinonaRyderCup the lies from @DeepakChopra do not help you beat cancer, no more than Popoff helped people beat cancer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y "Oct 03 03:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - James Randi Debunks Peter Popoff Faith Healer   .::. Size~: 120.53 KBOct 03 03:37
schestowitzqu1j0t3: exactlyOct 03 03:38
schestowitz"@schestowitz I apologize if I got you by mistake, you were tweeted in that message" http://twitter.com/#!/grecorosana/status/26227383215Oct 03 03:38
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: basically a show put on for followers.Oct 03 03:39
schestowitz"@grecorosana  don't worry about it. :-) It's just that someone passed me a link to something which upset @DeepakChopra . Best wishes to you."Oct 03 03:40
schestowitzqu1j0t3: whose followers?Oct 03 03:40
schestowitzhttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/6aclno "Real medicine?? What an idiot“@DeepakChopra: Murder? Arrest me @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha is right. Your fraud teaches people not to rely on REAL medicine and truth. You kill them”"Oct 03 03:41
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schestowitz"@schestowitz hahaha darling ur anger is filtering my response @DeepakChopra is CERTAINLY NOT god. nor am I nor are u. so drop the judgement " http://twitter.com/#!/Clarissa_Yaotl/status/26228092742Oct 03 03:41
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schestowitz"@Clarissa_Yaotl  the argument I made was metaphoric. If you are after facts, please do not defend people who distort them to get richer."Oct 03 03:43
schestowitz"ill check out the vid. just remember anger won't help you gather support. only reason will" http://twitter.com/#!/Clarissa_Yaotl/status/26228251038Oct 03 03:43
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schestowitz"@Clarissa_Yaotl re "anger won't help you gather support." I was not angry and I agree with you on this one. I'm very calm, not angry."Oct 03 03:44
schestowitz"Always in good company, huh ? Either M$'s fanboys or mobbysts and now new friends... ;-)" http://twitter.com/#!/agente_smithe/status/26228323490Oct 03 03:45
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schestowitz"people who believe in his message aren't held at gun point. They obviously see something that you and I don't." http://twitter.com/#!/MunYoOo/status/26228490457Oct 03 03:45
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: the people who've done what I described.Oct 03 03:46
qu1j0t3those of*Oct 03 03:46
qu1j0t3schestowitz: "Murder? Arrest me."Oct 03 03:46
qu1j0t3Bush might say the same.Oct 03 03:46
schestowitz"@MunYoOo I agree that @DeepakChopra comes across as a charming, lovely person. What I have an issue with is promotion of ignorance for cash."Oct 03 03:47
schestowitzqu1j0t3: he tries to rile them usOct 03 03:47
schestowitz"arrest"Oct 03 03:47
schestowitz'murder"Oct 03 03:47
schestowitzRadicalising my imageOct 03 03:47
schestowitzI made no such claimOct 03 03:47
schestowitzI said he's  a fraudOct 03 03:47
schestowitzNot "it's a fraud"Oct 03 03:47
schestowitzWhich implies legal offenceOct 03 03:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: great tweet ^^Oct 03 03:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz++Oct 03 03:48
schestowitzI don't think I even said murderOct 03 03:48
schestowitzI can't rememberOct 03 03:48
schestowitzI think I said "kills"Oct 03 03:48
schestowitzAs in, his ignorance leads to deathOct 03 03:48
qu1j0t3what the fuck is he doing on twitter anyway,Oct 03 03:48
qu1j0t3it's PR.Oct 03 03:48
schestowitzMaybe I said just "death"Oct 03 03:48
qu1j0t3i mistrust authors on twitter more now that i've seen this.Oct 03 03:49
qu1j0t3when I first saw Margaret Atwood on twitter i raised on eyebrow.Oct 03 03:49
schestowitz"@schestowitz sure you didn't mean Palin?" http://twitter.com/#!/jdsimmons11/status/26228613618Oct 03 03:50
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schestowitz"@jdsimmons11 she is another story altogether. Let's not divert away from the subject."Oct 03 03:51
schestowitzhttp://tmi.me/1UUXMOct 03 03:52
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schestowitz"@schestowitz I have an incredible amount of respect for @DeepakChopra, I've been reading his books since I was 11 yrs old. I trust him. Thx" http://twitter.com/#!/grecorosana/status/26229441411Oct 03 03:52
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schestowitz"@grecorosana  I understand and respect that, I sincerely do. Just remember to constantly recheck your beliefs in life."Oct 03 03:53
schestowitzIt's not the sheep who are the problemOct 03 03:54
schestowitzIt's  himOct 03 03:54
schestowitzThey are isledOct 03 03:54
schestowitzThey are misledOct 03 03:54
schestowitzHe is the one exploiting themOct 03 03:54
schestowitzI lost track of where I was now...Oct 03 03:55
schestowitzWriting some posts for TR... let's resumeOct 03 03:55
schestowitzThe sheep can waitOct 03 03:55
schestowitzChopra's sheep.... Arianna gives this man a platform PFTTTTTTTTTT............Oct 03 03:56
schestowitzOprah does this type of stuff too, for ratingsOct 03 03:56
qu1j0t3yes.Oct 03 03:57
qu1j0t3Teach The ControversyOct 03 03:57
qu1j0t3Oprah promotes all kinds of dodgy shitOct 03 03:57
qu1j0t3jeez, i saw a photo today or yesterday of her with JK Rowling, I nearly pukedOct 03 03:58
qu1j0t3billionaires stick togetherOct 03 03:58
schestowitz"@schestowitz I constantly do. Have a great weekend!" http://twitter.com/#!/grecorosana/status/26230656006Oct 03 04:03
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schestowitz"@grecorosana you too! :-) It was unfair of @DeepakChopra to reference me next to words like "arrest"/"murder", trying to radicalise my image"Oct 03 04:05
schestowitz JK Rowling is not a billionaireOct 03 04:05
schestowitzBTW, RMS says boycott Harry Potter (the book obviously)Oct 03 04:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: close enoughOct 03 04:06
qu1j0t3actually she has been a billionaire for some time, iircOct 03 04:06
schestowitzReally?Oct 03 04:06
schestowitzFrom books?Oct 03 04:06
qu1j0t3yes.Oct 03 04:06
schestowitzhow many copies sold?Oct 03 04:06
qu1j0t3i think she passed that point a few years agoOct 03 04:06
qu1j0t3http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_Joanne-(JK)-Rowling_CRTT.htmlOct 03 04:09
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/53279971#notice-53730781 "Oct 03 04:10
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schestowitztedksOct 03 04:10
schestowitz@schestowitz I don't think you need anyone's help to radicalize your image. And that's a good thing.Oct 03 04:10
schestowitz"Oct 03 04:10
schestowitzhttp://haris.status.net/notice/287668Oct 03 04:11
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schestowitzHeheOct 03 04:11
schestowitz"@schestowitz @harisbinali ignorance is promoted in churches across America every Sunday. @DeepakChopra doesn't claim to be a messiah" http://twitter.com/#!/MunYoOo/status/26230903293Oct 03 04:11
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schestowitz"@MunYoOo True,but even on video @DeepakChopra sort of admits making stuff up.To *knowingly* preach for ignorance is bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4"Oct 03 04:13
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schestowitz"@schestowitz @DeepakChopra Spirit helped beat it. Not words. Words are fuel/motivator...Spirit is the flame. Up to u how bright it burns." http://twitter.com/#!/WinonaRyderCup/status/26231056091Oct 03 04:14
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qu1j0t3trueOct 03 04:15
qu1j0t3world needs radicalsOct 03 04:15
schestowitz"@WinonaRyderCup I was not arguing that words can cure cancer; nor can the stuff @DeepakChopra preaches."Oct 03 04:16
schestowitz"Atheism is God playing Devil's advocate "@wearebiology: @DeepakChopra What are your thoughts on atheism? // about GOD"Oct 03 04:17
schestowitzLOLOct 03 04:18
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/DeepakChopra/status/26204535845Oct 03 04:18
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schestowitzYou can't make this stuff upOct 03 04:18
schestowitz"what are dinosaurs?"Oct 03 04:18
schestowitzA: just God testing our faith ;-)Oct 03 04:18
schestowitz"@schestowitz maybe I missed it, can you provide me with an example?" http://twitter.com/#!/MunYoOo/status/26232408897Oct 03 04:30
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.23 KBOct 03 04:30
schestowitz"@MunYoOo  example of what? Sorry, I don't quite follow you."Oct 03 04:31
schestowitz"@schestowitz @DeepakChopra Okay. I agree. Not sure anyone else is saying otherwise. Even Deepak. What I get from Deepak, it's all about luv" http://twitter.com/#!/WinonaRyderCup/status/26232421318Oct 03 04:32
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schestowitz"@WinonaRyderCup I agree @DeepakChopra is a lovable guy. I just hope he will stop (mis)using scientific terms to market fake solutions."Oct 03 04:34
schestowitz"..Love... and a nice bottle of wine. All that resveratrol can't be all that bad. @schestowitz @DeepakChopra" http://twitter.com/#!/WinonaRyderCup/status/26232788149Oct 03 04:34
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schestowitzThis guy made million preying on the gullibleOct 03 04:35
schestowitzqu1j0t3: http://techrights.org/2010/10/02/captives-microsoft-monopoly-by-gates/Oct 03 04:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: More Evidence That Bill Gates Destructive Hijack of the Education System is About Control and Microsoft Indoctrination | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.19 KBOct 03 04:39
schestowitzJust postedOct 03 04:39
schestowitzHours later cause of CHopraOct 03 04:39
schestowitzOk, let's press on..Oct 03 04:41
schestowitzI'm not into quack debunkingOct 03 04:41
schestowitzI'm better at s/wOct 03 04:41
qu1j0t3oh boy, xaphir is a teapartistaOct 03 04:41
qu1j0t3i'm ideologically out of step with #techrights a lot of the time. :)Oct 03 04:42
schestowitzHeheOct 03 04:43
schestowitzDistractionOct 03 04:44
schestowitzBut I don't regret falling into itOct 03 04:44
schestowitzChopra gave me an extra 12 followers within 2 hours or so by pointing them at meOct 03 04:44
schestowitz"Whoa, some bad @twitter weather out there today... @osborneink @schestowitz (Hey @osborneink do u rly approve of #mossad #stuxnet???)"Oct 03 05:13
schestowitzHeh. Did you read my post about itOct 03 05:13
schestowitzSchneier refutes those claimsOct 03 05:13
schestowitz"@schestowitz example of video where he admits he's making something up as you mentioned" http://twitter.com/#!/MunYoOo/status/26234788196Oct 03 05:14
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schestowitz"@MunYoOo there are many videos where he is challenged for misusing scientific theory/terms to dress up quackery. In this one he admits it."Oct 03 05:15
qu1j0t3schestowitz: check @osborneink's recent tweets. he said of Mossad "More stuxnet, less Dubai"Oct 03 05:15
qu1j0t3which is ... wtf?Oct 03 05:15
schestowitz"@schestowitz why are you so cynical?" http://twitter.com/#!/Mithukb/status/26234262552Oct 03 05:16
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schestowitz"@Mithukb what about?"Oct 03 05:16
schestowitzbtwOct 03 05:18
schestowitzI like you being in #techrightsOct 03 05:18
schestowitzYou're not harming the topic/focus at allOct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3hmOct 03 05:23
qu1j0t3depends :)Oct 03 05:23
qu1j0t3i have to avoid being trolled by right-wingers thereOct 03 05:23
qu1j0t3i suppose i'm getting better at thatOct 03 05:23
schestowitzThey must be scary.... the most rightOct 03 05:29
schestowitzThe extreme righters can issue death threatsOct 03 05:29
qu1j0t3different world, schestowitzOct 03 05:30
qu1j0t3this world: http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.htmlOct 03 05:31
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qu1j0t3that's where the Tea Party is heading.Oct 03 05:31
qu1j0t3this kind of thing makes me want to leave this continent ASAP.Oct 03 05:31
qu1j0t3there's just too much crazy down thereOct 03 05:32
schestowitzCanada too?Oct 03 05:37
schestowitzIIRC TorontoOct 03 05:37
schestowitzG20Oct 03 05:37
schestowitz:-)Oct 03 05:37
schestowitzNice demo for touristsOct 03 05:37
schestowitzI bet they can't wait to go there :-)Oct 03 05:37
qu1j0t3g20 is a problemOct 03 05:42
qu1j0t3but our fire dept actually puts out fires, i can guarantee it.Oct 03 05:42
qu1j0t3and how.Oct 03 05:43
qu1j0t3i monitored their radio during the major apartment fire we had here 2 wks agoOct 03 05:43
qu1j0t3schestowitz:  “Whoa. If we’re waiting for Microsoft employees to step up and fix our education system, this country is REALLY in trouble.”Oct 03 06:15
qu1j0t3^^ now think back to Fuckerberg dropping $100m in NewarkOct 03 06:15
qu1j0t3as if this is any kind of way to run an education systemOct 03 06:15
qu1j0t3"So, we're just going to wait for the pocket change of billionaires?"Oct 03 06:15
qu1j0t3YES, your country IS in troubleOct 03 06:16
qu1j0t3especially if you keep dancing with the CAUSESOct 03 06:16
schestowitzI know, I know...Oct 03 06:57
schestowitzDon't lecture me on it :-p  :-p  :-pOct 03 06:57
schestowitzI didn't oppose your POVOct 03 06:57
schestowitzJust said that for now gates is a bigger thretat to schools than ZuckerdrekjOct 03 06:58
qu1j0t3oh, sure. wasnt lecturing, just drawing the parallel.Oct 03 07:05
qu1j0t3inspired by your pull-quoteOct 03 07:05
qu1j0t3as in, why *is* everybody waiting for the philanthropists to "fix everything" ??!!Oct 03 07:05
qu1j0t3i don't understand that country... less & lessOct 03 07:05
qu1j0t3it's like, "we're pointed in the wrong direction!" "OKAY! So hit the gas pedal!"Oct 03 07:06
schestowitzHeheOct 03 07:14
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gnufreexhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/10/02/businessinsider-microsoft-acquisitions-2010-10.DTLOct 03 10:50
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oiaohmTotal aquirements of 75 million is basically nothing.  gnufreexOct 03 10:53
gnufreexoiaohm: Not total. It is under 75 milion eachOct 03 10:54
gnufreex75 milion is limit for not disclosingOct 03 10:54
oiaohmeven so a company aquired for under 75 million is smallOct 03 10:58
gnufreexyepOct 03 10:58
gnufreexit is small.Oct 03 10:58
gnufreexbut 15 of themOct 03 10:58
gnufreexbut they will probably ruin all that.Oct 03 10:59
oiaohmSo even at best 75 x 15=1125   1 billion dollars spent on aquirements.Oct 03 11:00
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schestowitz"Deepak promotes mental health, if you get mental aspects right you'll find a cure for illness. Why don't u read?" http://twitter.com/#!/thavae/status/26243437997Oct 03 12:16
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schestowitzoiaohm: which companies?Oct 03 12:17
schestowitz"Everyone dies, no escape @DeepakChopra: Murder? @schestowitz Your fraud teaches people not to rely on REAL medicine and truth. You kill the" http://twitter.com/#!/PerfectKarma/status/26244931320Oct 03 12:22
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schestowitzYawn..Oct 03 12:23
schestowitz@DeepakChopra @schestowitz @ReformedBuddha hmm... To me, REAL medicine (or "truth" for that matter) is anything that WORKS. Lol" "http://twitter.com/#!/emotionalpower/status/26248868397Oct 03 12:23
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schestowitzThe Microsoft mobbyist is still selling an unbacked story about Linux tax: "Red Hat probably pays patent royalties to Acacia http://bit.ly/cSb22p + hush $ due to free-software-must-not-pay ideology."Oct 03 12:38
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schestowitz"I can't imagine this non-practicing entity would have let Red Hat off the hook without paying http://bit.ly/cSb22p #patent"Oct 03 12:38
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schestowitz"@Pandersonpllc OK, so "doubtful" meant that you agree with me Red Hat will have paid, otherwise the NPE would've continued to litigate?"Oct 03 12:38
schestowitz"On Red Hat patent settlement announcement (http://bit.ly/cSb22p), I share assessment with @Pandersonpllc that $RHT will have paid for sure."Oct 03 12:38
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schestowitz"@Pandersonpllc Went through reexam or 2 means it survived attempts at invalidation? Or did one of the processes look like they were losing?"Oct 03 12:38
MinceRhttp://apina.biz/19716.jpgOct 03 13:20
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schestowitzMinceR: in Soviet Russian, only women drink Vodka?Oct 03 15:00
schestowitz s/ian/ia/Oct 03 15:01
MinceRnopeOct 03 15:01
schestowitzSo just large-breased men thenOct 03 15:01
schestowitz*tedOct 03 15:01
MinceR:>Oct 03 15:01
MinceReveryone doesOct 03 15:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/phunehehe/statuses/26262268835 "I understand the Linux part, but why are you against Facebook?"Oct 03 15:02
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/silviuvulcan/statuses/26257227754 "RT @razvansandu: RT @schestowitz: RT @thistleweb "Android apps sharing your data" http://bbc.in/9Li6td - one more reason #symbian is my fav."Oct 03 15:02
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schestowitzThere is a difference between Android and Android _apps_Oct 03 15:03
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: more than u wanted to know http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/11/russiaOct 03 17:50
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FurnaceBoy'On average, they consume a bottle of vodka a day, with some 30% of all male deaths in Russia alcohol related.'Oct 03 17:51
schestowitzWHoaOct 03 17:56
schestowitzWell, people from the Balkans too seem to have a drinking culture that thy bring where they migrate/travelOct 03 17:57
schestowitzI think one solution is to legalise other drugs (which I never did BTW)Oct 03 17:57
schestowitzAlcohol is a deadly drugOct 03 17:57
FurnaceBoyu know that from ur work too i think?Oct 03 17:57
schestowitzAnd stopping upset people from getting high is an olympian challengeOct 03 17:57
schestowitzYou can't illegalise sex/substancesOct 03 17:58
schestowitzBut you can facilitate something which is safe, like legal pot and prostitution under controlled conditionsOct 03 17:58
schestowitz[17:57] <FurnaceBoy> u know that from ur work too i think?Oct 03 17:58
schestowitzCan you rephrase?Oct 03 17:58
schestowitzI study MRI, not drugOct 03 17:59
schestowitzMy job does not involve drugs, sometimes just contrast agents fo fMRIOct 03 18:00
FurnaceBoybad guess :)Oct 03 18:01
FurnaceBoyi knew you worked with mriOct 03 18:01
schestowitzI also work with some people from east EuropeOct 03 18:02
schestowitzSo I /do/ know about the other aspect of it, which is why I asked for rephrasalOct 03 18:02
FurnaceBoyme too. one young russian guy i worked with drank every day. beer for breakfast.Oct 03 18:02
schestowitzStarting the day on the right footOct 03 18:02
schestowitzLimpoingOct 03 18:02
schestowitzLimpingOct 03 18:03
schestowitzBut happyOct 03 18:03
FurnaceBoyfor him it was completely normalOct 03 18:03
FurnaceBoyno wonder they die youngOct 03 18:03
schestowitzIn Soviet Russia, booze drinks YOU!Oct 03 18:03
FurnaceBoyquiteOct 03 18:03
FurnaceBoyla vida vodcaOct 03 18:03
schestowitzI have some in the freezerOct 03 18:04
schestowitzBut I rarely drink anything, just water and coffeeOct 03 18:04
FurnaceBoyi enjoy wineOct 03 18:04
FurnaceBoyhm, wow, India's commonwealth games still taking a PR beating -- an official just contracted dengue fever.Oct 03 18:04
schestowitzIt leads to writing foolish things in IRC and being quoted on them years later repeatedlyOct 03 18:05
FurnaceBoyin the famous athlete's villageOct 03 18:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: ha!Oct 03 18:05
schestowitzcommonwealth=British empireOct 03 18:05
schestowitzHow do you like your queen?Oct 03 18:05
schestowitzCommon=awww... :-)Oct 03 18:05
schestowitzWealth=awwwww.... $$$Oct 03 18:05
schestowitzawww ohohohohoh!Oct 03 18:05
schestowitzU-phemismOct 03 18:06
FurnaceBoyU-turn me offOct 03 18:06
schestowitzEU-phemismOct 03 18:06
FurnaceBoylolOct 03 18:06
FurnaceBoyEuro, ro, ro your boatOct 03 18:06
schestowitz"Give us all you spices... we'll give you... IP"Oct 03 18:06
schestowitzCanada is still trying to find out if it's with the EU or USOct 03 18:07
FurnaceBoyit is.Oct 03 18:07
schestowitzQuebec does some admirable thingsOct 03 18:07
FurnaceBoythe soul of canada is in quebecOct 03 18:07
schestowitzVancouver is being Asia-ised, I hear...Oct 03 18:07
schestowitzToronoto wants to be London/NYCOct 03 18:07
schestowitzBut it's more Chicago... that toddling townOct 03 18:08
FurnaceBoyyes and no.Oct 03 18:08
FurnaceBoyit's an multicultural as NYC or London, or moresoOct 03 18:08
FurnaceBoyas*Oct 03 18:08
FurnaceBoybut it's an unpretentious placeOct 03 18:08
FurnaceBoysafe, no BSOct 03 18:08
schestowitzChicago has some skyscrapers and many ghettosOct 03 18:08
FurnaceBoyCalgaryOct 03 18:08
schestowitzIt' a northern station for big bankers and the like to parkOct 03 18:09
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Calgary is the archetypal US dysfunctional cityOct 03 18:09
FurnaceBoyUS-style*Oct 03 18:09
schestowitzI had a g/f in WinnipegOct 03 18:09
FurnaceBoycorrupt, unequal, in the American wayOct 03 18:09
schestowitzShe was in Thunderbay at the timeOct 03 18:09
FurnaceBoyAlberta has that reputation.Oct 03 18:09
schestowitzNow married thoughOct 03 18:09
schestowitzI think she movedOct 03 18:09
FurnaceBoybut Toronto hasn't taken on this crap. Harper still hates TOronto's liberalismOct 03 18:09
FurnaceBoyG20 was a gesture aimed at punching TO in the faceOct 03 18:10
schestowitzDo you think the black anarchists were staged?Oct 03 18:10
FurnaceBoy"Stay indoors, you liberal motherfuckers, or we will beat you up and arrest you"Oct 03 18:10
schestowitzOr let go to destroy with consent?Oct 03 18:10
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: of course. they always are. they're encouraged.Oct 03 18:10
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it serves the agenda to have that stuff happen. they left decoy cars.Oct 03 18:10
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: in Qc, cops are found among those guysOct 03 18:11
schestowitzlink?Oct 03 18:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: they were found outOct 03 18:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it was also revealed that the G20 stuff was set upOct 03 18:11
FurnaceBoythe links came out during G20 (for Qc case). People spotted that the cops were wearing identical boots, and then it was investigated.Oct 03 18:12
schestowitzender, whom you offered hosting, is into all thatOct 03 18:12
FurnaceBoyidentical boots to the 'anarchists'Oct 03 18:12
schestowitz[18:11] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: they were found outOct 03 18:12
schestowitzI heard that British troops also made mock fights in IraqOct 03 18:12
schestowitzCreating internal divisionsOct 03 18:12
FurnaceBoybut you can see why they insert 'black bloc' provocateurs. it plays directly into the agenda, they NEED that to happen.Oct 03 18:12
schestowitzOr accentuating those to divert attention away from invading enemy to domestic boogymanOct 03 18:13
schestowitzI am not sure it's all trueOct 03 18:13
FurnaceBoyit worked beautifully here. all the media started talkign about 'protester violence' but you saw the videos. all the violence was by police.Oct 03 18:13
schestowitzSome Swiss SUSE guy mailed me about itOct 03 18:13
schestowitzAnd got angry when I wanted some linksOct 03 18:13
schestowitzI usually see those claims in more extreme sitesOct 03 18:13
FurnaceBoyi'll find you the Qc linkOct 03 18:13
FurnaceBoybut during G20 all this stuff came out. that the cars were planted, etc.Oct 03 18:13
FurnaceBoyof course they were. if you are spending $1.5bln then a few thou' for provocateurs is just good business. insurance, you might call it.Oct 03 18:14
FurnaceBoywithout 'incidents' the ridiculous expenditure would look bad.Oct 03 18:14
schestowitzLike this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJgv39GtcJ0Oct 03 18:14
FurnaceBoy19,000 police in one of the safest (the safest?) city in the world.Oct 03 18:14
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: check the video link i tweeted, re Harper's lawless govt. that gives a sign of what he's aboutOct 03 18:18
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's bad, very bad.Oct 03 18:18
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: canada needs to get rid of this cancerOct 03 18:18
schestowitz[18:13] <FurnaceBoy> but during G20 all this stuff came out. that the cars were planted, etc.Oct 03 18:19
schestowitzShiny carsOct 03 18:19
FurnaceBoythey ;let them burn - better footage.Oct 03 18:19
schestowitzLike those Sony cams your police used to stalk activistsOct 03 18:19
schestowitzHigh pixel intensityOct 03 18:19
FurnaceBoyeye in the skyOct 03 18:20
schestowitzUS$5000+Oct 03 18:20
FurnaceBoyi went to the post-g20 solidarity marchOct 03 18:20
FurnaceBoyhelicopter stationed right aboveOct 03 18:20
schestowitzThose cameras cost as much as some carsOct 03 18:20
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FurnaceBoyIn a recent interview on Fox News, Stewart explained his disappointment with Obama. "He ran as a visionary, and he's led as a functionary," he told Fox talkshow host Bill O'Reilly. Obama had betrayed his "change" campaign mantra by keeping the "same system and the same people in place".Oct 03 18:22
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: any news about trmancoOct 03 18:22
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: hiOct 03 18:22
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: do u have links about the provocateurs who were uncovered in Qc wearing same boots as the cops who arrested them?Oct 03 18:23
FurnaceBoy'arrested'Oct 03 18:23
FurnaceBoyi saw the pics etc during or shortly after G20Oct 03 18:23
FurnaceBoy"@Attrition47 perhaps the job as President of USA is just a ceremonial job and the real decisions get made by the establishment behind the scenes???"Oct 03 18:24
MinceRi think that's what it isOct 03 18:24
FurnaceBoyno shitOct 03 18:26
schestowitz[18:22] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: any news about trmancoOct 03 18:26
schestowitzHe's OKOct 03 18:26
schestowitzSOmetimes come to IRCOct 03 18:26
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i still want access to the botOct 03 18:26
schestowitzHe's in Toronto, stillOct 03 18:26
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: you can download it and run it hereOct 03 18:27
schestowitzIt's free softwareOct 03 18:27
schestowitzPHPOct 03 18:27
FurnaceBoybleh, then we'll get 2 bots talkingOct 03 18:28
Ender2070I saw the Qc stuff when it happenedOct 03 18:30
Ender2070back in 2007Oct 03 18:30
Ender2070alan watt linked itOct 03 18:30
FurnaceBoythere was a good blog post about it, with picsOct 03 18:30
FurnaceBoythat i saw around g20-timeOct 03 18:30
Ender2070I saw the videoOct 03 18:31
Ender2070the cops pull them out after a whileOct 03 18:31
Ender2070thats when the people noticed the bootsOct 03 18:31
FurnaceBoythere were also videos of obvious cop-plants in the crowd at g20Oct 03 18:31
Ender2070yeahOct 03 18:31
FurnaceBoypeople wearing Che t-shirts, marijuana capsOct 03 18:31
FurnaceBoywho wouldn't be drawn into conversationOct 03 18:32
Ender2070i saw anarchists with communist shirtsOct 03 18:32
FurnaceBoywell muscledOct 03 18:32
Ender2070wtf are anachists doing supporting communism?Oct 03 18:32
Ender2070they dont support government at allOct 03 18:32
MinceRanarcho-communistsOct 03 18:35
MinceRthey're misguided, but they existOct 03 18:35
schestowitzAnarcommunists?Oct 03 18:35
schestowitzAnarcomradesOct 03 18:35
MinceRthey believe that ownership is evilOct 03 18:35
schestowitzAnewconsOct 03 18:35
MinceRi wonder where they want to live, thenOct 03 18:35
Ender2070lolOct 03 18:36
FurnaceBoysame place the rest of us do. on a beach in brazil...Oct 03 18:36
schestowitz[18:35] <MinceR> they believe that ownership is evilOct 03 18:37
schestowitzownership is an odd conceptOct 03 18:37
Ender2070marx and the un think ownership of land is evilOct 03 18:37
FurnaceBoyI thought we were the People's Front of JudaeaOct 03 18:37
schestowitzIt assumes binding between atoms that are not boundOct 03 18:37
schestowitzI own my handOct 03 18:37
schestowitzBut do I properly "own" a car?Oct 03 18:38
schestowitzThere's paperwork which might say itOct 03 18:38
FurnaceBoyor an IPv4 address!Oct 03 18:38
schestowitzBut it's not a natural unitOct 03 18:38
schestowitz[18:37] <Ender2070> marx and the un think ownership of land is evilOct 03 18:38
schestowitzPeople dieOct 03 18:38
schestowitzThey always dieOct 03 18:38
FurnaceBoy+1Oct 03 18:38
FurnaceBoy99 year leaseOct 03 18:38
schestowitzThen what happens to this ownership?Oct 03 18:38
schestowitzThey become the land when they rotOct 03 18:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the Crown doesn't die ;-)Oct 03 18:38
schestowitzAnimals have notion of territoryOct 03 18:39
schestowitzHabitats tooOct 03 18:39
schestowitzAnimals don't have object propertyOct 03 18:41
schestowitzHumans make toolsOct 03 18:41
schestowitzDeveloped monkeys can make tools with sticks and rocks to catch preyOct 03 18:41
schestowitzBut they don't carry these aroundOct 03 18:41
schestowitzI.e. no propertyOct 03 18:41
schestowitzThere's no fence eitherOct 03 18:41
schestowitzJust this notion or "stay away from me and my flock"Oct 03 18:42
schestowitzTermite queens and alpha males show status, not ownershipOct 03 18:42
schestowitzThere is no trade in natureOct 03 18:42
schestowitzThere is reciprocity, but hardlyOct 03 18:42
FurnaceBoyright, there's no identity among termites.Oct 03 18:42
FurnaceBoytrade requires identityOct 03 18:42
schestowitzLike one chimp forming a relationship with anotherOct 03 18:43
schestowitzParenthood asideOct 03 18:43
schestowitzThere are studies on how mothers are even attached to the corpses of their offspringsOct 03 18:43
FurnaceBoyyes. very much so.Oct 03 18:43
schestowitzThey guard them from others even after death, it's a survival instinctOct 03 18:43
FurnaceBoyand inversely tooOct 03 18:43
schestowitzSo anyway, we are the only species with some of these advanced notionsOct 03 18:44
schestowitzIP being the most disgusting among themOct 03 18:44
schestowitzI 'own' this thoughOct 03 18:44
schestowitzCharlie the chimp bashed Jumbo with a hard stick for thinking the same think about gluing sticksOct 03 18:44
schestowitzCharlie the chimp contacted a lawyer and tried to put in confinement  Jumbo for developing a habitat just like his without prior permissionOct 03 18:45
Ender2070[00:39] <schestowitz> Then what happens to this ownership?Oct 03 18:45
schestowitzCharlie the chimp illegally shared a howl with his friendly wife chimpOct 03 18:45
Ender2070normally inheritance, but marx thinks that is evil tooOct 03 18:45
schestowitzJumbo called him a "pirate"Oct 03 18:45
*schestowitz never read MarxOct 03 18:46
Ender2070btw, im thinking i'll be jumping to gentooOct 03 18:46
schestowitzTry Chakra or whateverOct 03 18:46
schestowitzIt looks wickedOct 03 18:46
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: well, u already used itOct 03 18:46
schestowitzIt has a nice communityOct 03 18:46
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: why'd you drop it btw?Oct 03 18:47
Ender2070I used to use gentoo thoughOct 03 18:47
Ender2070less learning curveOct 03 18:47
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: and what kind of things do you use this machine for?Oct 03 18:47
*FurnaceBoy uses gentoo on this pc, that is main work machineOct 03 18:47
Ender2070i use it for chromium, chat, games and developmentOct 03 18:48
Ender2070i like having the latest kde and with gentoo its super easy to get itOct 03 18:48
Ender2070chakra did look awesome but i dont know where its future is goingOct 03 18:49
Ender2070they split off from archOct 03 18:49
FurnaceBoyright, i do dev on this machine, but it needs to be stable, as I depend on it.Oct 03 18:49
Ender2070invented yet another package management systemOct 03 18:49
FurnaceBoy(paid work)Oct 03 18:49
FurnaceBoysigh......Oct 03 18:49
FurnaceBoythat's just what the world needed :DOct 03 18:49
Ender2070lolOct 03 18:49
Ender2070my quad core desktop will smoke gentooOct 03 18:50
Ender2070i really only want the latest kdeOct 03 18:50
Ender2070the system itself doesnt have to be unstableOct 03 18:50
Ender2070just has to be well maintainedOct 03 18:50
FurnaceBoyoh, this is very stable. but i try not to break it, too. :)Oct 03 18:50
Ender2070i was looking at the gentoo policyOct 03 18:51
Ender2070the latest kde will hit stable in a month after releaseOct 03 18:51
Ender2070assuming there are no issuesOct 03 18:51
schestowitzOct 03 18:51
schestowitz[18:50] <Ender2070> my quad core desktop will smoke gentooOct 03 18:51
schestowitzSmoked penguinOct 03 18:51
Ender2070fedora will adopt a new policy which restricts updates to those which do not impact the user experienceOct 03 18:52
Ender2070so if 4.6 has UI changes, F14 won't let it inOct 03 18:52
Ender2070or use a repo made by the KDE-SIG in their spare timeOct 03 18:53
Ender2070I remember how noticable the compiling process was when I got a dual core cpuOct 03 18:53
Ender2070gentoo will love my 4 coresOct 03 18:54
FurnaceBoyyes.Oct 03 18:56
FurnaceBoyi never really wait for compiles, and this is just an '04 pcOct 03 18:56
FurnaceBoy3.2 P4 HTOct 03 18:56
FurnaceBoymuch faster than i needOct 03 18:57
Ender2070good stuffOct 03 19:01
Ender2070thats almost like having 2 cores anywayOct 03 19:01
Ender2070HTOct 03 19:02
MinceRis it?Oct 03 19:03
FurnaceBoywell, sort of. :)Oct 03 19:04
Ender2070you can execute 2 threadsOct 03 19:04
FurnaceBoyit doesn't give you 100%, but somewhere between 0 and 100% depending on what you're doing.Oct 03 19:04
FurnaceBoylinux treats it as SMP.Oct 03 19:04
FurnaceBoybut anyway, the box is plenty fast enough for me.Oct 03 19:05
Ender2070you'd still use -j3 like anyone with a dual coreOct 03 19:05
FurnaceBoyyes.Oct 03 19:05
Ender2070look at the quad cores with HTOct 03 19:05
Ender20708 cores according to linuxOct 03 19:05
FurnaceBoythat's right.Oct 03 19:06
FurnaceBoyit definitely makes a measurable differenceOct 03 19:06
Ender2070especially with things like pbzip2Oct 03 19:06
FurnaceBoythe scheduler can run something immediately, relative to 1 threadOct 03 19:06
MinceRdoesn't mean it will run immediatelyOct 03 19:06
FurnaceBoyso theres a latency effect, even if the throughput is not 100% greater.Oct 03 19:07
FurnaceBoyMinceR: more likely though.Oct 03 19:07
FurnaceBoyMinceR: on a strict 1 thread, it can'tOct 03 19:07
FurnaceBoyso there are both latency and some throughput improvementOct 03 19:07
FurnaceBoyjust not quite the same as an entire extra coreOct 03 19:07
FurnaceBoythis machine is way overpowered for me anyway, so i'm happyOct 03 19:08
FurnaceBoyi only wish it had better throttlingOct 03 19:09
FurnaceBoylinux can't do much with speedstep on this p4Oct 03 19:09
FurnaceBoyi'd happily throttle it down to nothing and use on demandOct 03 19:09
FurnaceBoythis works much better on later p4, apparentlyOct 03 19:10
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/26273295635 "That's true, although faced with a choice between the two, I'd prefer #boycottboy's stuff over Groklie. More fun, less shilling"Oct 03 20:33
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schestowitzStill tweets about nothing but those whom he is probably paid to discreditOct 03 20:34
schestowitzIs this real?  http://twitter.com/Becker_BorisOct 03 20:35
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Ender2070FurnaceBoy - ever use Funtoo?Oct 03 20:46
Ender2070http://www.funtoo.orgOct 03 20:49
TechrightsBot-scTitle: funtoo -- Daniel Robbins, gentoo, linux, keychain, metro, articles .::. Size~: 9.37 KBOct 03 20:49
schestowitz"you've got to be the biggest #fanboy i know. at least it's entertaining. ツ" -> 'enjoy the show ツ" http://identi.ca/conversation/53417221#notice-53870490Oct 03 21:07
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schestowitzEnder2070: think Microsoft+Metro+onoOct 03 21:08
schestowitzAfter he went working for MicrosoftOct 03 21:08
schestowitzFuntoo is not top of the list of many peopleOct 03 21:08
Ender2070thats rather sillyOct 03 21:18
Ender2070funtoo is gentooOct 03 21:20
Ender2070but with some advanced toolsOct 03 21:20
schestowitzHe couldn't run Gento eitherOct 03 21:20
schestowitzFoudationOct 03 21:20
schestowitzAfter he returnedOct 03 21:20
Ender2070for example, funtoo uses git instead of rsyncOct 03 21:21
Ender2070making forking easyOct 03 21:21
Ender2070plus theres github and gitoriousOct 03 21:21
Ender2070free hostingOct 03 21:21
MinceRit's forking easy!Oct 03 21:21
MinceRhur hurOct 03 21:21
Ender2070lolOct 03 21:22
Ender2070make your own distroOct 03 21:22
Ender2070an idea that keeps staying at the back of my mindOct 03 21:23
schestowitzget the new mandriva forkOct 03 21:24
Ender2070hmmOct 03 21:25
Ender2070too bad they haven't released anythingOct 03 21:26
Ender2070ill check them out when they do thoughOct 03 21:33
Ender2070A Canadian Redhat Fork: Toque LinuxOct 03 21:43
MinceR:)Oct 03 21:48
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schestowitzTorontuxOct 03 22:02
FurnaceBoyMageia seems to be asking for hardware...?Oct 03 22:03
Ender2070Toque is a type of hatOct 03 22:06
Ender2070very canadianOct 03 22:06
FurnaceBoyif you drop it, it says "sorry"?Oct 03 22:21
*FurnaceBoy runzOct 03 22:21
*FurnaceBoy loves toronto in this season... was so nice to get out to a cafe todayOct 03 22:22
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sGUYIrnr6EOct 03 22:41
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schestowitzwb, oiaohmOct 03 22:58
oiaohmWill not be around for long.  schestowitzOct 03 23:12
schestowitz:-<Oct 03 23:12
oiaohmThe fun of work.  schestowitzOct 03 23:13
Ender2070FurnaceboyOct 03 23:14
Ender2070funtoo?Oct 03 23:14
qu1j0t3Ender2070: haven't tried it.Oct 03 23:15
qu1j0t3Ender2070: but yeah meant to be more cutting edgeOct 03 23:15
*qu1j0t3 is FurnaceBoy on another machineOct 03 23:15
Ender2070ohh okOct 03 23:15
qu1j0t3just make your mind up and get started, foo'!Oct 03 23:17
Ender2070lolOct 03 23:17
Ender2070gentoo/funtoo are the same thingOct 03 23:18
Ender2070funtoo just uses git and some other stuff insteadOct 03 23:18
qu1j0t3rightOct 03 23:18
Ender2070im interested in rolling my own and it would helpOct 03 23:19
qu1j0t3speaking of LFS......?Oct 03 23:21
Ender2070with funtoo I can merge stuff I dont feel like doing myselfOct 03 23:21
Ender2070gitOct 03 23:21
Ender2070and fork things I want to changeOct 03 23:22
qu1j0t3hm.Oct 03 23:22
qu1j0t3yeah it's a bit bureaucratic to do with w/ gentooOct 03 23:22
qu1j0t3i should try to get compiz working on my g2 machine some timeOct 03 23:22
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schestowitzor kwinOct 03 23:50
schestowitzjust the plugins that improve speedOct 03 23:50
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