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schestowitzhttp://reddevnews.com/articles/2010/09/30/microsoft-argues-legal-standard-too-high-in-patent-cases.aspxOct 09 00:07
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Microsoft Gets Odd Allies in i4i Legal Appeal -- Redmond Developer News .::. Size~: 73.56 KBOct 09 00:07
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Omar_S_Hafez/status/26792766386 "The irony is that they never blame the criminal for his crimes, but they do blame the victim for fighting back against him."Oct 09 00:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Omar S. Hafez: @schestowitz The irony is  ... .::. Size~: 12.63 KBOct 09 00:23
schestowitzHow true.Oct 09 00:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Omar_S_Hafez/status/26792858100 "..which explains a lot about their hypocritical, double-standard nature."Oct 09 00:24
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Omar S. Hafez: @schestowitz ..which expla ... .::. Size~: 12.53 KBOct 09 00:24
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schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/09/lamborghini-sesto-elemento/Oct 09 09:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Lamborghini Sesto Elemento: Angry Called, It Wants Its Car Back | Autopia | Wired.com .::. Size~: 86.89 KBOct 09 09:36
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Omar_S_Hafez/statuses/26828855285 "I'm at #LinuxFestJo right now, listening to Areej Obeidat from Savvytech (Red Hat deputies in Jordan). Great stuff!"Oct 09 10:54
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: I guess it's old news that sourceforge is running MS ads...Oct 09 15:54
qu1j0t3schestowitz: in email footers :|Oct 09 15:54
schestowitze-mails too now?!Oct 09 16:01
qu1j0t3yaOct 09 16:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Chomsky talks about the Ariannas, here https://orwellsdreams.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/noam-chomsky-has-‘never-seen-anything-like-this’/Oct 09 16:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Noam Chomsky Has ‘Never Seen Anything Like This’ « Orwell's Dreams .::. Size~: 162.37 KBOct 09 16:02
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/54646991#notice-55120994 "Ok, in that respect, your comment makes sense :) You should've shared both links I think, It's a good read!"Oct 09 16:02
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.06 KBOct 09 16:02
qu1j0t3"What I talk about are the liberal intellectuals, the ones who portray themselves and perceive themselves as challenging power, as courageous, as standing up for truth and justice. They are basically the guardians of the faith. They set the limits. They tell us how far we can go. They say, ‘Look how courageous I am.’ But do not go one millimeter beyond that. At least for the educatedOct 09 16:02
qu1j0t3sectors, they are the most dangerous in supporting power.”Oct 09 16:02
qu1j0t3^^Oct 09 16:02
schestowitzarianna not mentioned...Oct 09 16:03
qu1j0t3she's not mentioned, she's *described*Oct 09 16:03
schestowitzyesOct 09 16:03
schestowitzI hate thoseOct 09 16:03
schestowitzControlled oppositionOct 09 16:03
schestowitzMore like priesthoodOct 09 16:03
schestowitzSource: Norman FinkelsteinOct 09 16:04
qu1j0t3" If you read in the newspapers that Iran is defying the international community, ask who is the international community? India is opposed to sanctions. China is opposed to sanctions. Brazil is opposed to sanctions. The Non-Aligned Movement is vigorously opposed to sanctions and has been for years. Who is the international community? It is Washington and anyone who happens to agree with it.Oct 09 16:04
qu1j0t3 You can figure that out, but you have to do work. It is the same on issue after issue.”Oct 09 16:04
schestowitzCubaOct 09 16:06
schestowitzEven the US does not agree with its government, which has the same policy in both sidesOct 09 16:06
schestowitzPolitics are a bigger game, thoughOct 09 16:11
schestowitzI find it depressing because as hard as it may be to drive change in IT, you deal with far bigger barrier in politics because more people are already involved threOct 09 16:12
schestowitzThe people whom you need to influence in "IT" are maybe 10s of millionsOct 09 16:12
schestowitzFor a specific science maybe a milliobOct 09 16:12
schestowitzFor one research area hundreds worldwideOct 09 16:12
schestowitzFor politics hundreds of millions it not up an order if magnitudeOct 09 16:13
schestowitzIn a field of research publishing some papers can help you revoluitioniseOct 09 16:13
schestowitzIn politics, owning 1,000 paper internationally might help in making just some noticeable differenceOct 09 16:14
schestowitzThe iNnternet is crucialOct 09 16:14
schestowitzNo longer does a poor man require massive ad campaigns to reach the massesOct 09 16:14
schestowitzBandwidth is paid by the receiving endOct 09 16:14
schestowitzSome hosts are free, ew.g. GoogleOct 09 16:14
schestowitzAnd in Cuba one woman did enormously influential work through a blogOct 09 16:15
schestowitzIn China dissidents do something similarOct 09 16:15
schestowitzArianna is another story...Oct 09 16:16
schestowitzBTW, we found out what Causecast isOct 09 16:16
qu1j0t3Iran has blogs.Oct 09 16:19
qu1j0t3are you following the story of Canadian citizen Hossein Derakshan ('blogfather')?Oct 09 16:20
qu1j0t3he's been imprisoned for a couple of years now. I knew him, slightlyOct 09 16:20
*qu1j0t3 goes to have breakfastOct 09 16:22
schestowitzThe Steve of OzOct 09 16:27
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schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8772bc300e01ef2c#Oct 09 20:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 28.23 KBOct 09 20:16
schestowitz"Oct 09 20:16
schestowitzThe latest edition of Linux Format (LXF138) has an interesting interviewOct 09 20:16
schestowitzby Jono Bacon with Dr. Roy. He sounds much more reasonable and reasonedOct 09 20:16
schestowitzthat the wintrolls have always painted him. But, it that such a surprise?Oct 09 20:16
schestowitz"Oct 09 20:16
schestowitzOK, I think I'm getting back to USENET for a bitOct 09 20:22
Ender2071hey royOct 09 20:24
Ender2071I assume you don't use google groups for usenetOct 09 20:24
schestowitzNopeOct 09 20:26
schestowitzTHe trolls "took a break"Oct 09 20:26
schestowitzSo I'll give it a tryOct 09 20:26
schestowitzLess abuseOct 09 20:26
Ender2071how do you access usenet?Oct 09 20:26
schestowitzTHat's where a lot of the libel against me genrminatesOct 09 20:27
Ender2071in Canada, all of our ISP's abandoned usenetOct 09 20:27
Ender2071gotta pay or use google groupsOct 09 20:27
schestowitzEnder2071: UK ISPs have someOct 09 20:27
schestowitzI have a friend at BTOct 09 20:27
Ender2071oh good stuffOct 09 20:27
Ender2071ours killed usenet in the name of 'piracy' and bringing down pricesOct 09 20:27
Ender2071yet bandwidth is more expensive than beforeOct 09 20:28
Ender2071google groups offers free text newsgroups but its only web basedOct 09 20:28
Ender2071afaikOct 09 20:28
Ender2071cant use any reader you wantOct 09 20:28
Ender2071makes crossposting very hardOct 09 20:29
schestowitz[20:27] <Ender2071> ours killed usenet in the name of 'piracy' and bringing down pricesOct 09 20:30
schestowitzAnd child pr0nOct 09 20:30
schestowitzThey even admit using these as excusesOct 09 20:30
schestowitzThey should also shut down HTTPOct 09 20:30
Ender2071yeahOct 09 20:31
schestowitzI love USENETOct 09 20:31
Ender2071heyOct 09 20:31
schestowitzi'll just see how it goes with trolls and allOct 09 20:31
schestowitzThey try to ruin the groupsOct 09 20:31
schestowitzno modsOct 09 20:31
Ender2071you could use Microsoft Windows to distribute child pornOct 09 20:31
Ender2071better ban itOct 09 20:31
gnufreexschestowitz: Hahaha.... Lefty fail. He invited people to bash me on his blog, and they are saying I am right and he is wrong. He is attacking them now, saying they are shills or such, and telling them to go away.Oct 09 20:33
schestowitzBlock himOct 09 20:34
schestowitzJust block himOct 09 20:34
gnufreexI blocked him.Oct 09 20:34
schestowitzMany in identica doOct 09 20:34
Ender2071who what?Oct 09 20:34
Ender2071lolOct 09 20:34
gnufreexI just looked at his blog, the post he expected me to commentOct 09 20:34
gnufreexhttp://freeishsoftware.org/index.php/component/content/article/35-op-ed/121-free-software-advocates-spread-lies-and-fud-about-appleOct 09 20:34
schestowitzWhich blog?Oct 09 20:34
gnufreexBut I don't need to commentOct 09 20:34
schestowitzHe 'spams' his links now everywhereOct 09 20:34
schestowitzgnufreex: don't paste links to thatOct 09 20:35
schestowitzYou feed himOct 09 20:35
schestowitzDon't post links to any of his stuff in IRCOct 09 20:35
gnufreexOk,Oct 09 20:35
gnufreexI thought you wanted to see.Oct 09 20:36
schestowitzI haven'tOct 09 20:38
schestowitzI have it on my denied hostsOct 09 20:38
schestowitzLinsu*** tooOct 09 20:38
schestowitzAll sorts of sites I don't want fedOct 09 20:38
schestowitzI thought about adding con-sysOct 09 20:39
schestowitzsys-conOct 09 20:39
schestowitzIf you read trash, then you risk wanting to respondOct 09 20:39
schestowitzThat's why I blocked some users in identica+twitterOct 09 20:39
schestowitzAnd in USENET I have a huge killfileOct 09 20:39
schestowitzSo that I don't see the trollsOct 09 20:40
schestowitzUnless I access via Google GroupsOct 09 20:40
MinceR(flash) http://www.slideshare.net/cog/chmod-x-chmodOct 09 21:34
TechrightsBot-scTitle: chmod -x chmod .::. Size~: 58.53 KBOct 09 21:34
FurnaceBoyhm, yes, somebody asked me this as an interview question once.Oct 09 21:34
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MinceRhttp://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/image/composition/15133343/view/1/producttypecolor/2/type/png/width/280/height/280/wissenschaft-und-religion-shirt_design.pngOct 09 21:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBOct 09 21:36
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schestowitzThe trolls try to exploit IRC to 'dig' for 'dirt'Oct 09 22:42
schestowitzWe don't hide them...Oct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:33] <gnufreex> Hey, can I ask for a favor?Oct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:34] <schestowitz> sureOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:35] <gnufreex> This lefty guy is using IRC procedings for his jihad. Can you delay posting of today IRC?Oct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:35] <gnufreex> For a week or soOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:35] <gnufreex> Until he gives up.Oct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:36] <gnufreex> I mean not post it for few days, until he finds someone else to smear.Oct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:39] <schestowitz> No, sorryOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:39] <schestowitz> The trolls will always find dirtOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:39] <schestowitz> Besides, they know well that they only help usOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:39] <schestowitz> By bringing attention to usOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:39] <schestowitz> So I say, let thjemOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:40] <schestowitz> This too can be made publicOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:40] <schestowitz> If the trolls really wanted to hurt, they'd hit block and just ignoreOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:40] <schestowitz> Like I diOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:40] <schestowitz> 8*doOct 09 22:43
schestowitz[00:41] <schestowitz> Nothing insults them more than not being seen/readOct 09 22:43
tessierschestowitz: Need to do some maintenance which will take the site offline for just a few minutes. When is a good time?Oct 09 22:45
tessierMainly need to reboot the proxy, not really bnOct 09 22:46
schestowitztessier: no probleOct 09 22:46
tessierOr "tr" nowOct 09 22:46
tessierOk, it will be down for just a few minutes starting momentarily.Oct 09 22:46
schestowitzjust need to post some links later onOct 09 22:46
schestowitzthanksOct 09 22:46
schestowitzso now is a god timeOct 09 22:47
schestowitz*good tooOct 09 22:47

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