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roy__[23:19] <lightpriest> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RWVdCcbyRE1CRp5Eqn88YA?feat=directlinkOct 17 04:27
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Picasa Web Albums - Or Cohen .::. Size~: 24.22 KBOct 17 04:28
roy__[23:19] <lightpriest> a small reminder ;pOct 17 04:28
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schestowitz[12:52] <lightpriest_> hey roy, a class action lawsuit against MS might be formed here in Israel (a friend of mine). nothing official yet, but if so - I'll report.Oct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:52] <schestowitz> maybe techrights can helpOct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:53] <lightpriest_> thanks, I also offered help. He says he has enough money :)Oct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:53] <lightpriest_> and enough time on his hands for it ;pOct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:54] <lightpriest_> basically he's suing them for not being able to purchase a laptop without windows pre-installedOct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:55] <schestowitz> They would risk by by settlingOct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:55] <lightpriest_> he's not a settler :)Oct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:57] <lightpriest_> he sued a bunch of sites (~80) for falsifying public auctions resultsOct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:57] <lightpriest_> systematically, that isOct 17 13:18
schestowitz[12:57] <lightpriest_> they all wanted a settlement...Oct 17 13:19
MinceRit would be niceOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[12:58] <schestowitz> If he doesn't hurry up, Microsoft will run out of means to settle withOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[12:58] <schestowitz> And they are better off complyingOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[12:58] <schestowitz> I.e. unbundling or allowing itOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[12:59] <schestowitz> Same problem in the UKOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[12:59] <schestowitz> Dell hardly stocks Ubuntu on the siteOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[12:59] <lightpriest_> it'll be interesting to see it here in IsraelOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[13:00] <lightpriest_> we're basically a Microsoft countryOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[13:00] <schestowitz> UK is the same and Australia tooOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[13:00] <lightpriest_> some goverment contracts are fixed so that only Microsoft products would workOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[13:00] <schestowitz> The US alliesOct 17 13:20
schestowitzMinceR: need your mind for a scOct 17 13:20
schestowitzMinceR: need your mind for a secOct 17 13:20
schestowitzRe some lawOct 17 13:20
schestowitzApple thing...Oct 17 13:20
MinceRIANAL, but my mind is availableOct 17 13:20
schestowitz[13:00] <schestowitz> Germany and France are oppositesOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:00] <lightpriest_> but Australia has that law on bundling software with hardware, no?Oct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:00] <schestowitz> Not that I know ofOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:01] <lightpriest_> apple sells the OS appart, in Australia, no?Oct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:01] <schestowitz> Bundling is common there too, AFAIKOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:01] <lightpriest_> perhaps I am confused ;pOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:01] <schestowitz> Never heard of itOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:02] <schestowitz> Apple-branded PCs will only run binary BSD with fancy icons (Mac OS X)Oct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:02] <schestowitz> Also WindowsOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:02] <lightpriest_> :)Oct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:02] <schestowitz> For those who pay 3 times for the same h/w from China to have the logo which says "I'm richer than you"Oct 17 13:21
schestowitzOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:03] <lightpriest_> lolOct 17 13:21
schestowitz[13:03] <schestowitz> http://www.bnet.com/blog/technology-business/why-apple-microsoft-and-others-will-take-chips-in-house/5730Oct 17 13:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Why Apple, Microsoft, and Others Will Take Chips In-House | BNET  .::. Size~: 84.72 KBOct 17 13:21
schestowitzIn the news now:Oct 17 13:21
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-8-IE9-and-Windows-7-SP1-in-the-Focus-Antitrust-Authorities-159352.shtmlOct 17 13:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Windows 8, IE9 and Windows 7 SP1 in the Focus of Antitrust Authorities - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.59 KBOct 17 13:21
schestowitzFrom a Microsoft boosterOct 17 13:21
MinceRwhat's the question?Oct 17 13:22
schestowitzAustralian lawOct 17 13:25
schestowitzApple selling OS X-less macs?!Oct 17 13:25
MinceRhaven't heard of thatOct 17 13:26
MinceRit might even be that they sell them OSX-less in their stores and talk the user into buying OSX for them on the spotOct 17 13:26
MinceRbetter ask the people from ozOct 17 13:26
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roy_http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/71861/20101014/apple-ipad-iphone-idc-pc-seller-mac-os-x-dell-hp-sales-growth.htmOct 17 13:45
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Apple encroaches Microsoft's terrain, crowned 3rd largest PC maker - International Business Times .::. Size~: 54.14 KBOct 17 13:45
roy_bblOct 17 13:45
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FurnaceBoyhttp://flickr.com/photos/edyson/5087675832Oct 17 17:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: In The Neutral Zone | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 77.32 KBOct 17 17:40
schestowitzdentedOct 17 17:46
FurnaceBoy:)Oct 17 17:47
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: @ggreenwald has a new article up refuting all claims that wikileaks has endangered anyoneOct 17 17:47
schestowitztoo political for me...Oct 17 17:50
schestowitzgore and stuffOct 17 17:50
schestowitzI lost some readers for itOct 17 17:50
FurnaceBoywikileaks is too political for techrights?Oct 17 17:50
schestowitzNoOct 17 17:51
FurnaceBoyfor whom?Oct 17 17:51
schestowitzLong story....Oct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoyi guess the campaigns are working thenOct 17 17:52
schestowitzDeath issuesOct 17 17:52
schestowitzI don't cover murder issuesOct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoyon techrights?Oct 17 17:52
schestowitzyesOct 17 17:52
schestowitzOr "Terror" newsOct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoywell, sure, many geeks like to keep technology separate from politics, that's a reasonable policyOct 17 17:52
schestowitzOr British/US/Israeli/other occupationsOct 17 17:52
schestowitzIt's divisiveOct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoyis this new?Oct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoyi assume you're not objecting to discussing itOct 17 17:52
schestowitzpeople of certain nationality find it insultingOct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoyso what?Oct 17 17:52
schestowitzOr religionOct 17 17:52
schestowitzWe do it in IRCOct 17 17:52
schestowitzNot in daily linksOct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoysureOct 17 17:52
FurnaceBoyi was only letting you know personallyOct 17 17:53
schestowitzthanksOct 17 17:53
FurnaceBoyggreenwald is never unreasonableOct 17 17:53
schestowitzI like @ggreenwaldOct 17 17:53
schestowitzbeat me to it...Oct 17 17:53
FurnaceBoy:)Oct 17 17:53
FurnaceBoyif it weren't for him.. there'd be nobody doing this..Oct 17 17:53
FurnaceBoyalso it shows Salon hasn't fallen as far as HPOct 17 17:53
FurnaceBoyhm, i meant to write to @joanwalshOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoyoh yeah i remember nowOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoythey've had a long-running series This Week in CrazyOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoythere's too much material, though, it's like shooting fish in a barrelOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoyso they started a new series, This Week in SanityOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoywhich is a really good ideaOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoyfocus on those occasions where a public figure uses their brainOct 17 17:54
FurnaceBoyi was going to compliment her on the brilliance of itOct 17 17:55
FurnaceBoydoesn't fall intot he trap of letting the extremists and Fox set the agendaOct 17 17:55
FurnaceBoylike HP deliberately doesOct 17 17:55
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