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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56839843#notice-57338925 "it'll be an audiocast, probably weekly"Oct 25 01:18
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schestowitzhttp://henrydubb.status.net/notice/9575 "Yes, in a round about way, that was what I was getting at. Yes, its on of my dailies. Still think someone has to be more cautious bout ads. But its things like this that keeps me with linux."Oct 25 01:30
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: http://twitter.com/GaeMar01/status/28632502020Oct 25 01:31
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schestowitzWhat's this about?Oct 25 01:31
schestowitz"@schestowitz @qu1j0t3 : I am *far* from convinced that he did comit suicide. ............. I know :) #DavidKelly"Oct 25 01:31
schestowitzI was not part of such a converation recentlyOct 25 01:32
schestowitzNo context, eitherOct 25 01:32
FurnaceBoynot recently, but i think you and i have discussed DK?Oct 25 01:47
FurnaceBoythe tweet i replied to will make this clear, stand byOct 25 01:47
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/GaeMar01/status/28629615391Oct 25 01:48
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schestowitzThis was in identica [NSFW] http://angel.linux.org.bd/2010/09/fedora-goddess/Oct 25 03:01
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: wow, /. really has been infected. "After the success of Windows 7, everyone is very interetsed in the next iteration!"Oct 25 15:33
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Codepope/statuses/28684494534 "no, no, but it might be an idea to create an alternate Id if you want to expand what you talk about." http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/28677144369Oct 25 15:55
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: yes, I stopped read it againOct 25 15:56
schestowitzSome weeks agoOct 25 15:56
schestowitzIt's like VIsta Phone 7 and other products with multi-billion marketing budgets borrowed /.Oct 25 15:56
schestowitzSo I quit like in 2008Oct 25 15:56
schestowitzI have better sites to read. FurnaceBoy should read RMS' political blog (RSS)Oct 25 15:56
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FurnaceBoyi don't spend much time thereOct 25 16:11
abeNd-orgyou should post your .opml file :)Oct 25 16:11
schestowitzFurnaceBoy shouldOct 25 16:12
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Bookmarks/rss-opmlOct 25 16:12
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schestowitzOld thoughOct 25 16:12
schestowitz~2005Oct 25 16:12
abeNd-org2005 in internet time is beyond old :)Oct 25 16:13
abeNd-orgmost sites from 2005 are probably long gone or renamed, or werent rss enabledOct 25 16:15
schestowitzFurnaceBoy:  #techrights- [gotunandan/@gotunandan] NYTimes smear campaign against WikiLeaks founder shredded to pieces by its own readers http://ur1.ca/26aitOct 25 16:33
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schestowitzI suppose you also saw Glen's writeup about NYTOct 25 16:33
schestowitz"Comments are no longer being accepted."Oct 25 16:33
schestowitzNYT>TRASHOct 25 16:33
schestowitzNearOct 25 16:50
schestowitzNeatOct 25 16:50
schestowitzWar on mainstream mediaOct 25 16:50
schestowitzFox tooOct 25 16:50
schestowitzWikileaks helps expose them, along with the military 'industry' which they help defend some of the timeOct 25 16:51
schestowitzIt helps us deflect attention when it comes to technology coverage tooOct 25 16:51
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: yep rt'd thatOct 25 16:58
abeNd-orgwhats the worthwhile opensource mail/compliance archiving product these days? ive been playing with mimosa/retain/m+archive, but wanted to see what was there on the opensource frontOct 25 17:10
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56888081#notice-57388188 "@schestowitz Perhaps a PulseAudio issue?"Oct 25 17:23
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schestowitz"thanks, Sean; no, it's OK now, I found a solution. All these years I use a cheapo mic that made me sound squeaky"Oct 25 17:24
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/57390689Oct 25 17:55
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/new?replyto=tekk&inreplyto=57390689Oct 25 17:55
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schestowitz"@schestowitz if I'm going to believe in a god I want him to sleep with any woman they want by lying and then get chastised by his wife :P"Oct 25 17:55
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schestowitz"loved the banner for the show...speak later, I'm at work at moment." http://twitter.com/#!/_Goblin/status/28689035283Oct 25 18:08
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/28699398905 "and using completely different software at the middleware and app layers"Oct 25 18:09
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schestowitzThe press realised that "Linux beats Windows beats Linux" makes better headlinesOct 25 18:09
MinceRhttp://identi.ca/markshuttlecock   http://identi.ca/sjobs   http://identi.ca/jonabaconOct 25 18:12
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schestowitz:-)Oct 25 18:35
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schestowitz#Windows profits Declines Sharply Because of Competition From !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/26ec1 Some numbers.Oct 25 22:17
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/dqocd.pngOct 25 22:45
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schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/25/heart-mri/Oct 25 22:48
schestowitzDo I understand correctly that you are now working on producing andOct 25 22:48
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schestowitzexploring new ways of imaging of the heart muscle?Oct 25 22:48
schestowitzAnd this is in addition to 100 other projects which you have ongoing?Oct 25 22:48
schestowitz^^ cousin quoiteOct 25 22:48
schestowitzMinceR: were you in healthcare?Oct 25 22:48
MinceRnot exactlyOct 25 22:48
MinceRi'm developing sw that supports sw development there :>Oct 25 22:49
schestowitzMaybe it's private, nmOct 25 22:49
schestowitzahOct 25 22:49
schestowitzmaybe my sister uses your work thenOct 25 22:49
MinceRunlikelyOct 25 22:49
MinceRnone of it is in production yet :>Oct 25 22:49
schestowitzSounds like Vista 8Oct 25 22:50
MinceRnopeOct 25 22:50
MinceRvalidation is not complete :>Oct 25 22:50
MinceRm$ doesn't do that at allOct 25 22:50
FurnaceBoy:)Oct 25 22:50
FurnaceBoywhy botherOct 25 22:50
FurnaceBoythe river of gold is still runningOct 25 22:50
FurnaceBoyit would be stupid to waste money on qualityOct 25 22:51
MinceRexcept m$ is dyingOct 25 22:51
MinceRthe thing is, they don't know how to do qualityOct 25 22:52
MinceRthey never cared about itOct 25 22:52
schestowitzjust ensuring no rivalsOct 25 22:52
schestowitzLose billions just to suffocate comptitionOct 25 22:52
schestowitzThen you STATE the pricOct 25 22:52
schestowitzDICTATING pricingOct 25 22:53
FurnaceBoyand dictating 'standards'Oct 25 22:55
FurnaceBoythey don't know how to compete; they don't know how to *follow* standards.Oct 25 22:55
FurnaceBoyperfectly analogous to dictator vs electionOct 25 22:55
schestowitz[22:55] <FurnaceBoy> they don't know how to compete; they don't know how to *follow* standards.Oct 25 22:56
schestowitzThey 'follow'Oct 25 22:56
schestowitzLike SMBOct 25 22:56
schestowitzThey follow someone else's workOct 25 22:56
schestowitzThen 'extent'Oct 25 22:56
schestowitzAnd call it their ownOct 25 22:56
schestowitzThey follow it like the panther follows the gazelleOct 25 22:57
FurnaceBoywhen your profits have depended on corrupting standards, how would they know how to do any different?Oct 25 22:57
FurnaceBoyit's in the DNAOct 25 22:57
gnufreexLike Microsoft Inch/centimeneter.Oct 25 22:57
schestowitzMicrosoft has no DNAOct 25 22:57
MinceR:>Oct 25 22:57
schestowitzI don't think they are the same speciesOct 25 22:57
MinceRthey areOct 25 22:57
schestowitzHeck, we're not even from the same PLANETOct 25 22:57
schestowitz:)POct 25 22:57
MinceRm$ does typical human thingsOct 25 22:57
schestowitzBORGmanOct 25 22:58
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/glynmoody/status/28727559436Oct 25 23:19
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/glynmoody/status/28727156121Oct 25 23:20
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schestowitz"I think it's a useful term because it's easily understood, and generally has positive connotations"Oct 25 23:20
schestowitzAnd applies to so many things, too. FurnaceBoy knows...Oct 25 23:20
FurnaceBoywhat termOct 25 23:22
oiaohmI still remember the MS guys pushing for ODF to include a option of storing non standard data.Oct 25 23:32
oiaohmThey still have not given up.Oct 25 23:32
oiaohmAnd the allowing for storing non standard data is what stuffs OOXML up completely.Oct 25 23:34
FurnaceBoyright, blobs are a loophole.Oct 25 23:36
FurnaceBoythat they'd ram a semitrailer thruOct 25 23:36
oiaohmNot they'd ram a semitrailer thru.  It what they have rammed a semitrailer thru.Oct 25 23:38
oiaohmRepeatedly.Oct 25 23:38
oiaohmEven worse MS encourages same bad behaviour.Oct 25 23:39
oiaohmRemember active-x and other evil solutions.Oct 25 23:39
FurnaceBoyyes.Oct 25 23:46
FurnaceBoyWMF.Oct 25 23:46
FurnaceBoylike, what bright spark thought that executable x86 code was a good thing to support explicitly...Oct 25 23:47
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schestowitzWindows IMFOct 25 23:48
schestowitzWindows Monetary FUndOct 25 23:48
schestowitzIt gives you lockinOct 25 23:48
schestowitzAnd takes compound interest on thatOct 25 23:48

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