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schestowitz"Agreed, Sony needs 4 buttons, a slider, toggle switch and voice command just to turn something on." http://twitter.com/#!/fissionmedia/status/29028906499Oct 29 01:22
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57137841#notice-57648022 "Even after reading this twice, I still don't understand what this is about. First I thought Kubuntu was dropped."Oct 29 10:32
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schestowitzhttp://goo.gl/4WgeOct 29 10:32
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schestowitzIt's a bad headlineOct 29 10:32
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schestowitzThe trolls already lie by distorting. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/0841e987d5a4a968#Oct 29 11:47
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schestowitzI don't use WindowsOct 29 11:47
schestowitzAnd troll "Toilet Slave" advertises the show while trying to troll it. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/c80453c9486a312c#Oct 29 11:49
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schestowitzBut I see we're cited there too, which is nice: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bf2f184fdc021cf5#Oct 29 11:50
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schestowitzThe trolls pretended to leave COLAOct 29 12:17
schestowitzBut they don't.Oct 29 12:17
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/db0f1c8a883e4199#Oct 29 12:17
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schestowitzI'll probably get back there again pretty soon thoughOct 29 12:17
gnufreexschestowitz: What is that thing troll quoted? Your bozobin ?Oct 29 14:19
gnufreexI know few from there, seen them trolling on few sites.Oct 29 14:20
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schestowitzgnufreex: yesOct 29 15:05
schestowitzlike billgwOct 29 15:05
schestowitzamicus_curiousOct 29 15:05
schestowitzPogson banned himOct 29 15:05
schestowitzBill WeisgerberOct 29 15:06
schestowitzVery disgusting troll who tries to appear reasonable while insulting pepleOct 29 15:06
schestowitzRight now they lie about my workOct 29 15:06
gnufreexGlad to hear Pogson banned AC.Oct 29 15:06
schestowitzThey try to say I use Windows, which I never do.Oct 29 15:06
schestowitzI use Kubuntu a lot I think I might be able to access MATLAB and journals from home via Manchester University with SSH to the lab. I'm still hoping to work at the office, it's just that as a development environment I am having a hard time making progress there.Oct 29 15:07
schestowitzAnd one of their remote terminals is WindowsOct 29 15:07
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: ridiculous tweet: http://twitter.com/Malarkey/status/29087792847Oct 29 15:07
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schestowitzI could use VPN or something, it's no big dealOct 29 15:07
schestowitz[15:06] <gnufreex> Glad to hear Pogson banned AC.Oct 29 15:07
schestowitzIt annoyed me it took him so longOct 29 15:07
schestowitzI dreaded scrolling down when reading his postsOct 29 15:07
schestowitzTo see the trollfloodOct 29 15:07
schestowitzI started to associate his site with that troll, that's how sites get ruined, by intentOct 29 15:08
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: I have a post abut FBOct 29 15:08
schestowitzYou'll like itOct 29 15:08
gnufreexI avoided commenting on that blog because I would get into argument with troll.Oct 29 15:08
schestowitzMark "Dumb Fucks" is deleting pro-Palestine grouposOct 29 15:08
gnufreexcan't ignore everything.Oct 29 15:08
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: I will need to do a post about it, you'll see it... actually wait... I'll post it now, gimme 10 minsOct 29 15:09
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: why am i not surprisedOct 29 15:09
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: sureOct 29 15:09
schestowitz"They trusted him"Oct 29 15:09
schestowitz"Dumb fucks"Oct 29 15:09
schestowitz--MarkZOct 29 15:10
schestowitzLike the Indians trusted the EuropeansOct 29 15:10
schestowitz[15:08] <gnufreex> I avoided commenting on that blog because I would get into argument with troll.Oct 29 15:10
schestowitzThat tooOct 29 15:10
schestowitzInsulted evenOct 29 15:10
schestowitzTechright had like 5-10 times more comments before we put registration wallOct 29 15:10
schestowitzCause we got very abusive stuff from trolls and mobbyistsOct 29 15:11
schestowitz_Goblin got them tooOct 29 15:11
schestowitzInsulting his wife and kidsOct 29 15:11
schestowitzTrying to cause him trouble in his life, insulting, X-rating the place...Oct 29 15:11
schestowitzThat's what COLA has...Oct 29 15:11
schestowitzMicrosoft Uses Psychopaths To Deter People From Learning About Linux  http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/b0d2526d3a43cd7b#Oct 29 15:12
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gnufreexFunny how trolls do exactly what they accuse people they attack.Oct 29 15:12
schestowitzLinux people are politeOct 29 15:12
schestowitzThey are also mor generousOct 29 15:12
schestowitzProbably richer tooOct 29 15:12
schestowitzThey pay more for gamesOct 29 15:12
*schestowitz lols @ http://twitter.com/#!/MalarkeyOct 29 15:13
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: "Andy Clarke is hip and mature. A seasoned brand steward, a fancy pixel wrangler and no mean hand at code. A triple talent. The bastard."Oct 29 15:13
FurnaceBoyand a naive fool when it comes tomicrosoft?Oct 29 15:13
FurnaceBoysighOct 29 15:13
FurnaceBoyi dont' even know where this backward sentiment COMES from...Oct 29 15:13
FurnaceBoy"We should be GRATEFUL to microsoft for showing the barest level of competence?"Oct 29 15:13
FurnaceBoywhy?Oct 29 15:13
FurnaceBoyi understand that theyre all suffering from fatal stockholm syndrome,Oct 29 15:14
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: "I have to say, MARK_Z is on FIRE with support for Intrusion! We should all be grateful for what he is doing for schools"Oct 29 15:14
FurnaceBoybut how can anyone write that with a straight face?Oct 29 15:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: EXACTLYOct 29 15:14
schestowitzBill Gates is a good father, we should be grateful for his monopolyOct 29 15:14
schestowitzStalin loves dogs, he's not as bad as historians who try to daemonise sayOct 29 15:15
FurnaceBoyyeah .. a co-worker who hangs out with BG tweeted recently, "What a great family! and great cause"Oct 29 15:15
schestowitz"Hitler loved juice"Oct 29 15:15
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: Obama tooOct 29 15:15
schestowitzBut Obama is not so maliciousOct 29 15:15
schestowitzNot that I know ofOct 29 15:15
schestowitzMaybe I missed parts of his early life or just read puff pieces about himOct 29 15:16
schestowitzPR dressed up as bio...Oct 29 15:16
schestowitz[15:15] <FurnaceBoy> yeah .. a co-worker who hangs out with BG tweeted recently, "What a great family! and great cause"Oct 29 15:16
schestowitz[15:15] <schestowitz> FurnaceBoy: Obama tooOct 29 15:16
schestowitzI was referring to that first oneOct 29 15:16
FurnaceBoyyaOct 29 15:16
FurnaceBoy"he's just like us"Oct 29 15:17
schestowitzCould be read out of sequence with the "Hitler" thingOct 29 15:17
FurnaceBoyhahaOct 29 15:17
schestowitzAnyway, he helps journalists be paidOct 29 15:17
schestowitzThey sell us ingoranceOct 29 15:17
schestowitzAnd they can pay the mortgageOct 29 15:17
schestowitzAnd Bill gets to keep his tax exemption and president statusOct 29 15:18
schestowitzNPR, Guardian, ABC........ lots more paid by Gates to praise his wordOct 29 15:18
schestowitz*workOct 29 15:18
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: I have another post abotu gates comingOct 29 15:19
schestowitzThe press portrays him now as that who fight against the richOct 29 15:19
schestowitzGist:Oct 29 15:19
schestowitzhe lobbies for tax on the richOct 29 15:19
schestowitzSnag?Oct 29 15:19
schestowitzHe pays no tax!!Oct 29 15:19
schestowitzPress doesn't know about it???Oct 29 15:19
schestowitzGimme a break :-)Oct 29 15:19
schestowitzAnd he gets portrayed as one who wants the rich to pay more while he pays NONE.Oct 29 15:20
FurnaceBoylolOct 29 15:20
FurnaceBoyyeah1Oct 29 15:20
FurnaceBoyman that was cleverOct 29 15:20
FurnaceBoygotta credit the guy 's strategic brainsOct 29 15:21
FurnaceBoyhe hacked the systemOct 29 15:21
FurnaceBoyevery which wayOct 29 15:21
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: post almost readyOct 29 15:28
schestowitzI add some context to itOct 29 15:28
schestowitzAbout FBOct 29 15:29
schestowitzThe PearlyG story I'll do laterOct 29 15:29
schestowitz“I think he [Bill Gates] has a Napoleonic concept of himself and his company" Judge Thomas Penfield JacksonOct 29 15:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/10/29/power-over-communities-misused/Oct 29 15:44
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: is Google bad for us?Oct 29 15:47
schestowitzI am interested in your point of viewOct 29 15:47
schestowitzThe spinners never came up with very compelling arguments which showed me how harms outweighed the benefitsOct 29 15:48
schestowitzAstroTurfers with their anti-Eric rhetoric are pathetic, but I'm sure some people can come up with a profound explanation about externalities in this case and you're good at thatOct 29 15:49
schestowitzreason I ask:Oct 29 15:49
schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2010/10/29/james-cameron-eric-schmidt/?Oct 29 15:49
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schestowitz"On stage at a private event in Silicon Valley last night, legendary director James Cameron and Google CEO Eric Schmidt held a fascinating two hour conversation that touched on everything from the technology needs of the upcoming Avatar 2 film to the perils that face the environment if action isn’t taken."Oct 29 15:49
schestowitzfacebook still has a "boycott novell" causeOct 29 15:50
schestowitzFOlks from India set it up some years ago, has many subs in itOct 29 15:51
schestowitzhttp://www.wordyard.com/2010/10/28/what-if-the-future-of-media-is-no-dominant-players-at-all/Oct 29 16:11
TechrightsBot-scTitle: What if the future of media is no dominant players at all?  — Scott Rosenberg's Wordyard .::. Size~: 32.69 KBOct 29 16:11
schestowitz"Denton’s Gawker, Huffington Post...."Oct 29 16:11
schestowitzBlechOct 29 16:11
schestowitzGawker = gossupOct 29 16:11
schestowitzGawker = gossipOct 29 16:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I think Schmidt is badOct 29 16:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: going from his public statementsOct 29 16:29
MinceRand i agreeOct 29 16:30
FurnaceBoybut I have much bigger problems with Facebook right now. google , 50-50Oct 29 16:30
FurnaceBoyhttp://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=443390892130Oct 29 16:30
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Telling the Story of Friendships | Facebook .::. Size~: 24.15 KBOct 29 16:30
FurnaceBoyThe comment by Rubin Safaya is angry but accurateOct 29 16:30
FurnaceBoyi think in general these companies are all opportunistic more or less. they're making a gold rush where the 'gold' is our private behaviour. so far, awareness of privacy is very low, and they are making a land grab while that is still true. i think the major backlashes are in the future.Oct 29 16:32
FurnaceBoyfacebook never made any promise not to be evil, and obviously, they're GUNNA be evil.Oct 29 16:32
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: if this anti-palestine thing is true, then they really make it to my shit list with bells on.Oct 29 16:33
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: but in fact i've heard of that beforeOct 29 16:33
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: they claimed it was 'an accident'Oct 29 16:33
FurnaceBoyhmmmm don't they always claim that?Oct 29 16:33
schestowitzThey were OK on other mattersOct 29 16:33
schestowitzLike Draw Mo DayOct 29 16:33
FurnaceBoyexatclyOct 29 16:33
schestowitzThey didn't pull down the page until FB was blocked by nationsOct 29 16:33
FurnaceBoyDraw Mo is not a rights movement.Oct 29 16:34
schestowitzBut anyway, maybe there's some of that Zionism thing going on at FB, who knows...Oct 29 16:34
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: count on it.Oct 29 16:34
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's an american corporation.. zionism is in the bloodOct 29 16:34
schestowitzThat's a generalisation thoughOct 29 16:34
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: remember, only certain speech is 'free' :DOct 29 16:34
schestowitz"I like the principle in theory....."Oct 29 16:35
schestowitzOrOct 29 16:35
schestowitz"As long as I tolerate the opposing view..'Oct 29 16:35
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: well, here's why i think it's a safe generalisation ...Oct 29 16:35
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: beyond a certain size, and with a certain ambition, you have to play by some rulesOct 29 16:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it's like the presidencyOct 29 16:36
schestowitzMedia rules tooOct 29 16:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: to get that far, you have to have a mortgage on your principlesOct 29 16:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: same is true of corporationsOct 29 16:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: if you want to play the game, you have to play those other games tooOct 29 16:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: so it's very simpleOct 29 16:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: check for zionism at Disney, project. :DOct 29 16:37
FurnaceBoyanywayOct 29 16:37
FurnaceBoyi gotta workOct 29 16:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57154201#notice-57664849Oct 29 16:38
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schestowitz"@schestowitz What does Unity have to do with software patents?"Oct 29 16:38
schestowitzThat's a separate thing. Unity is a GNOME question mostly. Banshee uses parts of Mono that fall outside the MCP.Oct 29 16:38
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schestowitzBetter to ignore them nowOct 29 16:44
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that facebook link i posted is interesting. the comments give a good cross-section of conflicting opinionsOct 29 16:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it also shows that 'ordinary people' (non geeks) ARE very sensitive to privacy ... i got this link from a non-geek on twitter who was outragedOct 29 16:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: and i see that women commenters are shocked too, THEY can see the problem here and the "oh it was all public anyway" geek males don['t get itOct 29 16:47
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: even people praising the feature always close with a "but privacy IS a problem" riderOct 29 16:48
schestowitzbingoOct 29 16:52
schestowitzThe whole "only geeks care about digital rights..."Oct 29 16:52
schestowitzThey just happen to be thinking in advance about hoe technology will affect their peersOct 29 16:53
schestowitz"[I]t doesn't excuse developing proprietary software. A desire for profit is not wrong in itself, but it isn't the sort of urgent overriding cause that could excuse mistreating others. Proprietary software divides the users and keeps them helpless, and that is wrong. Nobody should do that."   http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/luispo-rms-interview.htmlOct 29 16:53
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: in that thread, it's the geeks who totally don't get itOct 29 16:54
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: in this respect they resemble FuckerbergOct 29 16:54
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the wilful self-deception that what they are doing is harmlessOct 29 16:54
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: see also -- arms industryOct 29 16:54
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: "We're just helping kill bad guys"Oct 29 16:55
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: ask the mothers and fathers on the cluster bomb assembly linesOct 29 16:55
FurnaceBoyChristine Senack · Senack and Associates · 5 votes.Oct 29 16:56
FurnaceBoyWOW! This is a ridiculous violation of privacy and will definitely inhibit my behavior here. This is actually unbelievable. Please give us the option to opt out of it immediately. PleaseOct 29 16:56
FurnaceBoyDaniela Galvan · Texas · 4 votes.Oct 29 16:57
FurnaceBoyCan you please get rid of this? It's already bad enough that you post our recent activity on our wall and our friend's news feed!! AND CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE THE PRIVACY SETTINGS MORE SPECIFIC SO WE CAN STOP PEOPLE FROM SEEING OUR RECENT ACTIVITY AND THIS NEW "FRIENDSHIP" SHIT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH????Oct 29 16:57
FurnaceBoyFacebook stalking is bad enough!!Oct 29 16:57
schestowitz[16:55] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: "We're just helping kill bad guys"Oct 29 16:57
schestowitzIt's more complex than thatOct 29 16:57
schestowitzNobody makes armsOct 29 16:57
schestowitzThey make componentsOct 29 16:57
schestowitzPartsOct 29 16:57
schestowitzI knew peopleOct 29 16:57
schestowitzThey'd say what they makeOct 29 16:58
schestowitzSome pieces of metal here and thereOct 29 16:58
schestowitzThey don't need to assemble it to see the killing machineOct 29 16:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: good point.Oct 29 16:58
FurnaceBoyFLOOD:Oct 29 16:58
FurnaceBoyAmanda Meyer · Saint Louis · -9 votes.Oct 29 16:58
FurnaceBoyHey tards who are complaining about this being another "iinvasion of privacy", errrp, hello, facebook is a FREE social networking site, no one is bashing down your door and forcing you to share your life story (that no one actually gives a rip about anyway) online. No one is "stalking" you, you narcissistic idiots, do you really think you are that interesting or attractive??! Well let meOct 29 16:58
FurnaceBoy help you out, you are NOT. Ok. And unless your idiotic enough to include your address on your profile then you can stop stealing precious time from updating your status to worry about which of your imaginary stalkers will be able to see it now.Oct 29 16:58
FurnaceBoy--- all class, the astroturfers ---Oct 29 16:58
schestowitz[16:57] <FurnaceBoy> Facebook stalking is bad enough!!Oct 29 16:59
schestowitzBut that's the business modelOct 29 16:59
schestowitzPeek and picky peopleOct 29 16:59
FurnaceBoythe best comment imho is this one ------------Oct 29 16:59
schestowitzWith ads on the sideOct 29 16:59
FurnaceBoyRubin Safaya · 6 votes.Oct 29 16:59
FurnaceBoyI love how the magical experience is so important to Mr. Kao here that he restricts all his profile information from public view. This is hypocrisy disguised as innovation. Facebook's business model relies too heavily on under-the-hood blatant invasions of privacy that they hope users ignore (out of sight, out of mind). They routinely push the boundaries of ethics until they get a slapOct 29 16:59
FurnaceBoyon the wrist, to see how far users will let them go... rather than holding themselves to any kind of standard of morals or ethics to their thinking in advance.Oct 29 16:59
FurnaceBoy--- he got that exactly right...Oct 29 16:59
schestowitz"They routinely push the boundaries of ethics until they get a slap"Oct 29 17:00
schestowitzYupOct 29 17:00
schestowitzThen they 'donate' to some schoolsOct 29 17:00
schestowitzAnd Arianna goes for the purseOct 29 17:00
schestowitzDifference is, Google harvests infoOct 29 17:02
schestowitzScience, photos of any nature, and news and peopleOct 29 17:03
schestowitzFacebook is focused on harvesting private data of just people, then selling that along with adsOct 29 17:03
FurnaceBoyright, google's activities are different, at least in search; what bothers me about google are more services like gmail, and the aggregation of user behaviour dataOct 29 17:06
FurnaceBoythe spidering isn't the issueOct 29 17:06
FurnaceBoyit's all the personally identifiable stuff they get from their usersOct 29 17:06
FurnaceBoyi won't use gmailOct 29 17:06
FurnaceBoywhen you centralise that stuff, because they respond to subpoenas etc constantly, they are just acting as the Department of Information RetrievalOct 29 17:06
FurnaceBoyppl are not backlashing agsinst google yetOct 29 17:07
FurnaceBoyand not really facebook yet eitherOct 29 17:07
FurnaceBoyas u see above, when they don't get it, they REALLY don't get itOct 29 17:07
FurnaceBoy"Stop trashing a brand I like!"Oct 29 17:07
FurnaceBoy"<insert ad hominems here>"Oct 29 17:07
schestowitzHeheOct 29 17:28
schestowitzDon't get me started on brandsOct 29 17:28
schestowitzLike people who are led to view Coke or Apple as part of their personal characterOct 29 17:29
schestowitzPR geniusOct 29 17:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that comment above is illuminating.Oct 29 17:31
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: a tribalismOct 29 17:31
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: you sense that she would not hesitate to lash out with guns, knives, or bootsOct 29 17:31
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: one side has reason -- the other side has tribalismOct 29 17:31
schestowitzShe?Oct 29 17:31
FurnaceBoyyes, she.Oct 29 17:31
schestowitzMaybe.Oct 29 17:31
schestowitzShe as in...?Oct 29 17:32
FurnaceBoy^^Oct 29 17:32
schestowitzThe thread?Oct 29 17:32
schestowitzI haven't read it yetOct 29 17:32
FurnaceBoyi also pasted it aboveOct 29 17:32
schestowitzIn a hurryOct 29 17:32
schestowitzI read that. yesOct 29 17:32
schestowitzPeople are mostly dumb by designOct 29 17:32
schestowitzBeing stupid is not a human conditionOct 29 17:32
schestowitzIt's imposeOct 29 17:32
schestowitzIt's imposedOct 29 17:32
schestowitzAny person can pick up a book and learn some basics like evolution rather than scriptureOct 29 17:33
schestowitzBut it's not healthy for a corporocracyOct 29 17:33
schestowitzAnyhoo...Oct 29 17:33
FurnaceBoy:)Oct 29 17:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57157103#notice-57667775 "<a href="http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/2010/10/27/viral-patent/" title="Viral Patent"></a>"Oct 29 17:46
schestowitzHuh?Oct 29 17:46
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TechrightsBot-scTitle: Viral Patent « Mimi and Eunice .::. Size~: 61.72 KBOct 29 17:46
schestowitz"i have no chance to get used to be heard"Oct 29 17:46
schestowitzParody?Oct 29 17:46
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj-Y2Mf2I5cOct 29 17:52
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schestowitzBringing prayer back to schools, FurnaceBoyOct 29 17:52
schestowitzWe'll get to Mars "real soon now!!"Oct 29 17:53
FurnaceBoy...Oct 29 17:54
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: http://uneasysilence.com/media/2010/10/Gates-WSJ.jpgOct 29 19:50
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FurnaceBoy"ask someone who makes his living in the information business"Oct 29 19:50
FurnaceBoyum, yeah.Oct 29 19:50
MinceRlolOct 29 19:51
schestowitz"Consider the posting at TechRights.com. Those moves are not a marker of a company with coffers full of cash. " http://thirdpipe.com/?p=7916Oct 29 20:20
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schestowitzMicrosoft up?Oct 29 20:20
FurnaceBoyyeah, tits-upOct 29 20:21
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: *LOL*Oct 29 20:21
schestowitzFriendlyOct 29 20:21
schestowitzyesOct 29 20:21
schestowitzFriendly to himOct 29 20:21
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: rightOct 29 20:21
schestowitzIgnoring the realityOct 29 20:21
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the text really bears deconstructing... except it's pure copywriter smokeOct 29 20:21
FurnaceBoyor maybe not pure.Oct 29 20:21
FurnaceBoyhe's a micromanager, i guess, so some of the words are probably hisOct 29 20:21
schestowitzMurdoch sucks that tit at Redmond conferencesOct 29 20:21
FurnaceBoygood for his egoOct 29 20:21
schestowitzEven this eyarOct 29 20:21
schestowitz“Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch and Clayton Christensen at last year’s CEO Summit. (Microsoft photo)”Oct 29 20:23
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/2300-13860_3-10003505.htmlhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/Oct 29 20:23
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/Oct 29 20:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Walmart Chairman, Warren Buffett, Notorious Bankers, Timothy Geithner, and Even Queen of Jordan Come to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.51 KBOct 29 20:23
schestowitz http://news.cnet.com/2300-13860_3-10003505.htmlOct 29 20:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Bill Gates image - Scenes from Microsoft's CEO Summit (photos) - CNET News .::. Size~: 40.57 KBOct 29 20:23
schestowitzYour leaderOct 29 20:23
schestowitzWhom you never electedOct 29 20:23
FurnaceBoyright.Oct 29 20:23
schestowitzYou paid him money thoughOct 29 20:23
*FurnaceBoy shuddersOct 29 20:24
schestowitzWhen you bought all your computersOct 29 20:24
schestowitzDoesn't matter if he made those computersOct 29 20:24
schestowitzNow he wants to make money from Android devices tooOct 29 20:24
schestowitzhttp://www.amazon.com/Patent-Lie-Paul-Goldstein/dp/0385517181Oct 29 20:24
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Amazon.com: A Patent Lie (9780385517188): Paul Goldstein: Books .::. Size~: 328.24 KBOct 29 20:24
schestowitzHe protested against software patentsOct 29 20:25
schestowitzNow he likes themOct 29 20:25
schestowitzNow it's good for him, so morality is upside downOct 29 20:25
schestowitzAnd Linux is 'stealing'Oct 29 20:25
schestowitz"The best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating systems." --billgOct 29 20:25
FurnaceBoysighOct 29 20:28
schestowitzDon't worryOct 29 20:32
schestowitzFrom rags (well, not quite, he was a spoiled rich child) to richesOct 29 20:32
schestowitzNow he can bribe journalists at pace of $100,000,000 per month to bury those storiesOct 29 20:33
schestowitzReplace them by washing the press with worship pieces in 72 languagesOct 29 20:33
schestowitzThis was Melinda can convince the audience -- as she does (the WONDERFUL mother we are told she us) -- that Coca-Cola is a wonderful company [which her husband invests in]Oct 29 20:34
FurnaceBoy:|Oct 29 20:34
schestowitzShe can say this to a global audience via satellite in TED-Xchange or whateverOct 29 20:35
schestowitzAfter all, she's keynote speakerOct 29 20:35
FurnaceBoysee? they hacked the system.Oct 29 20:35
schestowitzGuess who pays for the event :-)Oct 29 20:35
schestowitz[20:35] <FurnaceBoy> see? they hacked the system.Oct 29 20:35
schestowitzWell..Oct 29 20:35
schestowitzTh system runs WindowsOct 29 20:35
schestowitzSo it's easy to hack :-)Oct 29 20:36
FurnaceBoylolOct 29 20:36
schestowitzNow they need to control phones for digital control to be complete with surveillanceOct 29 20:36
schestowitzPearly  Dynasty is here to stayOct 29 20:36
schestowitzLike Mini-RockefellerOct 29 20:36
schestowitzHe already does trips to exploit ChinaOct 29 20:37
schestowitzWhere he bought enough paper to have Chinese women to yearn most for his sperm, said a recent surveyOct 29 20:37
schestowitzPower or PROct 29 20:37
schestowitzGates has always praised PR in his E-MAILOct 29 20:37
schestowitz*E-mailOct 29 20:37
FurnaceBoy:|Oct 29 20:37
schestowitz"You'll have to give me more to go on to find on that one... I couldn't find anything in either wikipedia nor google." http://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/statuses/29104924369Oct 29 20:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Laurel L. Russwurm: @schestowitz You'll have t ... .::. Size~: 12.68 KBOct 29 20:40
schestowitz http://www.cluecan.ca/node/307Oct 29 20:42
schestowitz"Many people have been asking for for more details on the high-school teacher who had his Linux Lab dismantled. "Oct 29 20:43
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TechrightsBot-sc"Many people have been asking for for more details on the high-school teacher who had his Linux Lab dismantled. "Oct 29 20:43
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: you're under 50, right?Oct 29 20:59
schestowitzWell under.Oct 29 20:59
FurnaceBoyI am.Oct 29 21:00
schestowitzOK, good. You'll probably have far more time than Bill and Warren to do campaigning then... and explain what they did before becoming worm food.Oct 29 21:01
schestowitzAnd it all countsOct 29 21:01
schestowitzTo put it another way, I will probably live to see all of today's tyrants (bar Zuck) go away from this planet before I goOct 29 21:02
schestowitzAnd this give us, the next generation, more leverage for positive reformOct 29 21:02
FurnaceBoyi understandOct 29 21:03
schestowitzTHey can rarely install very effective heir because the family ones become better aware of their patents' effects on the surrounding and thus turn elsewhere. There are areas like Oil that may vanish, too.Oct 29 21:03
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/c80453c9486a312c#Oct 29 21:12
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 28.27 KBOct 29 21:12
schestowitz"Oct 29 21:12
schestowitzThanks for the advertisement.  I never would have know about thisOct 29 21:12
schestowitzresource if it weren't for you.  Your master Roy is happy, I'm sure.Oct 29 21:12
schestowitz"Oct 29 21:12
schestowitzSILLY TROLLS :_)Oct 29 21:12
FurnaceBoy...Oct 29 21:12
schestowitzaRGH...my shift key is messedOct 29 21:12
schestowitzIt gets stuck down, stillOct 29 21:12
schestowitz"Spermowitz"?Oct 29 21:13
schestowitzIs this even an insult?Oct 29 21:13
FurnaceBoyLOLOct 29 21:13
schestowitzThey tried many variation. With Spermowitz... Maybe it means I'm a studOct 29 21:14
schestowitzSperm is just a young form of lifeOct 29 21:14
schestowitzhalf-lifeOct 29 21:14
schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODczMQOct 29 21:17
TechrightsBot-scTitle: [Phoronix] Well, Here's A Preview Of The Ad-Free Phoronix .::. Size~: 16.76 KBOct 29 21:17
schestowitzAttempts to make money publishing analysis ^^Oct 29 21:18
schestowitzDon't bother tryingOct 29 21:18
schestowitzI'm just mixing writing with other work (research)Oct 29 21:18
*gnufreex has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Oct 29 21:21
schestowitz"Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal"Oct 29 21:28
schestowitzWhen I look at it 'alta vista' mode I think "Nazi"Oct 29 21:28
schestowitzJust me?Oct 29 21:28
schestowitzNa* Na*Oct 29 21:29
MinceR:DOct 29 21:30
schestowitzNot just me then?Oct 29 21:32
schestowitzNadalOct 29 21:33
schestowitzNutty NadalOct 29 21:33
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/images?hl=&q=NadalOct 29 21:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Nadal - Google Search .::. Size~: 64.71 KBOct 29 21:33
schestowitzI tested running MATLAB from the Fedora machine in the CS labs today (manchester)Oct 29 21:38
schestowitzI think I'll convince my bosses to let me work from home while I'm on IRC and allOct 29 21:38
schestowitzThat would be dream jobOct 29 21:38
FurnaceBoy:)Oct 29 21:39
schestowitz"@bix welcome to identi.ca. I've set it up such that all your dents will appear in #techrights IRC now."Oct 29 21:45
schestowitzI've convinced some readers to dump FBOct 29 21:45
schestowitzAnd come to identicaOct 29 21:45
schestowitzI don't trust diaspora muchOct 29 21:46
schestowitzThis evening in the car I convinced another person to delete his FB accountOct 29 21:47
schestowitzBut he doesn't remember his password!Oct 29 21:47
schestowitzIf you don't remember password, the BAD GUYS win! :-) ("DUmb fucks" remember?)Oct 29 21:48
FurnaceBoylolOct 29 22:07
schestowitzPut yout profileOct 29 22:16
schestowitzHarvest doneOct 29 22:16
schestowitzTH user needn't answer questionOct 29 22:16
schestowitzIt's like self-checkinOct 29 22:16
schestowitzOr self-service stationOct 29 22:16
schestowitzYou get maiklOct 29 22:16
schestowitz"Paris Hilton (or other) wants to be your friend, go to Mark's DB to confirm you are friends and not insult Paris"Oct 29 22:17
schestowitzYou clickOct 29 22:17
schestowitzEnterOct 29 22:17
schestowitzMark's DB does some AIOct 29 22:17
schestowitzShows you people you'd knowOct 29 22:17
schestowitzYou tick the ones you knowOct 29 22:17
schestowitzYou then forget the passwordOct 29 22:17
schestowitzBut FBI gets what it needsOct 29 22:18
schestowitzGoogle has better profilingOct 29 22:18
schestowitzFor snoopsOct 29 22:18
FurnaceBoyi am concerned about this as wellOct 29 22:21
schestowitzSOme people theorise FB was created _FOR_ thisOct 29 22:26
schestowitzRather than the latter being afterthought of exploiting with a d0rm parasite createdOct 29 22:27
schestowitz /with/what/Oct 29 22:27
schestowitzFurnaceBoy will LOVE this photo: http://www.boothlucking.co.uk/government-not-closing-the-loop-on-open-dataOct 29 22:30
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Government not closing the loop on open data - Simon Booth-Lucking, Digital Consultant .::. Size~: 23.79 KBOct 29 22:30
schestowitzhttp://status.net/2010/10/28/ad-server-changes-on-identi-ca#comment-14802 "Well, if you'd taken steps to remove all spam I'm sure Adbard would cover 40% of the hosting costs. (I'm only partly joking. Identi.ca is overrun by spam, which in addition to keeping real users away, surly must have a significant impact on the hosting costs)"Oct 29 22:42
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Ad server changes on Identi.ca | StatusNet .::. Size~: 32.04 KBOct 29 22:42
schestowitz"¿Fork de opensuse, quien sabe? http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/the-demise-of-opensuse/ "http://identi.ca/notice/57679788Oct 29 23:05
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Crisis of OpenSUSE in Novell/VMB_ware Hands | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.27 KBOct 29 23:05
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Fernando Antonio Mejia Chavez (feranto)'s status on Friday, 29-Oct-10 21:59:56 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.25 KBOct 29 23:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I didOct 29 23:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i wanted to republishOct 29 23:05
schestowitzthe photo?Oct 29 23:06
schestowitzI had a chat about this todayOct 29 23:06
schestowitzI have a strong opinion on companies that help make a killingOct 29 23:07
schestowitzAnd killOct 29 23:07
schestowitzAnd those who help those companiesOct 29 23:07
schestowitz"But I was educated to want to have money and if money if my way to give back to society, then I need to work for that company yada yada"Oct 29 23:07
schestowitzI spoke to this guy who quit a high position in stock marketsOct 29 23:08
schestowitzTo go be an activist in a communityOct 29 23:08
schestowitzHe realise he was helping scamOct 29 23:08
FurnaceBoy"I was educated to want to have money" <----Oct 29 23:08
schestowitzrun by scumOct 29 23:08
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: that's another argument I hadOct 29 23:08
schestowitzAbout how today's young generation is raisedOct 29 23:08
schestowitzAround status and hypeP* and stuffOct 29 23:09
schestowitzIn Brazil you make friends with peopleOct 29 23:09
FurnaceBoyi knowOct 29 23:09
schestowitzIn the West you make friends with a gadget assembled by a kid who lost the opportunity to make friendsOct 29 23:09
FurnaceBoyi see the effects of tv-carried materialismOct 29 23:09
schestowitzYupOct 29 23:10
schestowitzCelebs tooOct 29 23:10
schestowitzLook what they doOct 29 23:10
FurnaceBoyask Quadrescence about itOct 29 23:10
schestowitzGood example:Oct 29 23:10
schestowitzJai Ho videoOct 29 23:10
schestowitzGirls playing with hypePhoneOct 29 23:10
schestowitzBeautiful girls+smartphone=fameOct 29 23:10
schestowitzRings, trashy clothes, nice car...Oct 29 23:10
schestowitzPsyche analysis.Oct 29 23:10
FurnaceBoyyesOct 29 23:10
FurnaceBoyi knowOct 29 23:10
FurnaceBoyblingOct 29 23:10
schestowitzSee original jai hoOct 29 23:11
schestowitzNothing like itOct 29 23:11
schestowitzLet me find it...Oct 29 23:11
FurnaceBoynah it's okOct 29 23:11
FurnaceBoyi'm multitaskingOct 29 23:11
FurnaceBoylike always :|Oct 29 23:11
schestowitzThe Indian versionOct 29 23:11
schestowitzBollywoodOct 29 23:11
schestowitz jai hoOct 29 23:11
FurnaceBoythe funny thing about smartphones...Oct 29 23:11
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jai_HoOct 29 23:11
FurnaceBoyand laptops ...Oct 29 23:11
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Jai Ho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 125.49 KBOct 29 23:11
schestowitzThe West ripped them offOct 29 23:12
FurnaceBoyis that billionaires can't have better ones than we have :)Oct 29 23:12
schestowitzDidn't know until someone told meOct 29 23:12
schestowitzShe showed me the ogirinal videoOct 29 23:12
schestowitzRipped off by 4 girls who call their band like one calls a vaginaOct 29 23:12
schestowitzCoerced to promote Gurl PowaOct 29 23:13
schestowitzOriginal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc5OyXmHD0wOct 29 23:13
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - Jai Ho (You Are My Destiny)   .::. Size~: 127.5 KBOct 29 23:13
schestowitzOopsOct 29 23:13
schestowitzThat's the copyOct 29 23:13
schestowitzOriginal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DciW_yuQGCwOct 29 23:13
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - Slumdog Millionaire Soundtrack - Jai Ho   .::. Size~: 121.47 KBOct 29 23:13
schestowitzIndiaOct 29 23:13
schestowitzMeh.Oct 29 23:14
schestowitz" NOTICE This video contains an audio track that has not been authorised by all copyright holders. The audio has been disabled. More about copyright  "Oct 29 23:14
schestowitzhttp://www.aolnews.com/world/article/miracle-babies-survive-indonesian-tsunami/19695267Oct 29 23:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: 'Miracle' Babies Survive Indonesian Tsunami .::. Size~: 103 KBOct 29 23:54
schestowitzStupid AOLOct 29 23:54
schestowitzOne of those religious things I thinkOct 29 23:54
schestowitzI didn't open the pageOct 29 23:54
schestowitzJust saw it at the top with headlineOct 29 23:54
schestowitzOne of those "god" saved the loved baby [oh, so did he hate all the other babies? Did they become  sinful?]Oct 29 23:55

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