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| schestowitz | "Agreed, Sony needs 4 buttons, a slider, toggle switch and voice command just to turn something on." http://twitter.com/#!/fissionmedia/status/29028906499 | Oct 29 01:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/57137841#notice-57648022 "Even after reading this twice, I still don't understand what this is about. First I thought Kubuntu was dropped." | Oct 29 10:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://goo.gl/4Wge | Oct 29 10:32 |
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| schestowitz | It's a bad headline | Oct 29 10:32 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls already lie by distorting. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/0841e987d5a4a968# | Oct 29 11:47 |
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| schestowitz | I don't use Windows | Oct 29 11:47 |
| schestowitz | And troll "Toilet Slave" advertises the show while trying to troll it. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/c80453c9486a312c# | Oct 29 11:49 |
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| schestowitz | But I see we're cited there too, which is nice: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bf2f184fdc021cf5# | Oct 29 11:50 |
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| schestowitz | The trolls pretended to leave COLA | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | But they don't. | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/db0f1c8a883e4199# | Oct 29 12:17 |
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| schestowitz | I'll probably get back there again pretty soon though | Oct 29 12:17 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: What is that thing troll quoted? Your bozobin ? | Oct 29 14:19 |
| gnufreex | I know few from there, seen them trolling on few sites. | Oct 29 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: yes | Oct 29 15:05 |
| schestowitz | like billgw | Oct 29 15:05 |
| schestowitz | amicus_curious | Oct 29 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Pogson banned him | Oct 29 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Bill Weisgerber | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | Very disgusting troll who tries to appear reasonable while insulting peple | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | Right now they lie about my work | Oct 29 15:06 |
| gnufreex | Glad to hear Pogson banned AC. | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | They try to say I use Windows, which I never do. | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | I use Kubuntu a lot I think I might be able to access MATLAB and journals from home via Manchester University with SSH to the lab. I'm still hoping to work at the office, it's just that as a development environment I am having a hard time making progress there. | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | And one of their remote terminals is Windows | Oct 29 15:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ridiculous tweet: http://twitter.com/Malarkey/status/29087792847 | Oct 29 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | I could use VPN or something, it's no big deal | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | [15:06] <gnufreex> Glad to hear Pogson banned AC. | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | It annoyed me it took him so long | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | I dreaded scrolling down when reading his posts | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | To see the trollflood | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | I started to associate his site with that troll, that's how sites get ruined, by intent | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I have a post abut FB | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | You'll like it | Oct 29 15:08 |
| gnufreex | I avoided commenting on that blog because I would get into argument with troll. | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | Mark "Dumb Fucks" is deleting pro-Palestine groupos | Oct 29 15:08 |
| gnufreex | can't ignore everything. | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I will need to do a post about it, you'll see it... actually wait... I'll post it now, gimme 10 mins | Oct 29 15:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: why am i not surprised | Oct 29 15:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sure | Oct 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz | "They trusted him" | Oct 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz | "Dumb fucks" | Oct 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz | --MarkZ | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Like the Indians trusted the Europeans | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | [15:08] <gnufreex> I avoided commenting on that blog because I would get into argument with troll. | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | That too | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Insulted even | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Techright had like 5-10 times more comments before we put registration wall | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Cause we got very abusive stuff from trolls and mobbyists | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin got them too | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Insulting his wife and kids | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Trying to cause him trouble in his life, insulting, X-rating the place... | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | That's what COLA has... | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Uses Psychopaths To Deter People From Learning About Linux http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/b0d2526d3a43cd7b# | Oct 29 15:12 |
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| gnufreex | Funny how trolls do exactly what they accuse people they attack. | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Linux people are polite | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | They are also mor generous | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Probably richer too | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | They pay more for games | Oct 29 15:12 |
| *schestowitz lols @ http://twitter.com/#!/Malarkey | Oct 29 15:13 | |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: "Andy Clarke is hip and mature. A seasoned brand steward, a fancy pixel wrangler and no mean hand at code. A triple talent. The bastard." | Oct 29 15:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | and a naive fool when it comes tomicrosoft? | Oct 29 15:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | sigh | Oct 29 15:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | i dont' even know where this backward sentiment COMES from... | Oct 29 15:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | "We should be GRATEFUL to microsoft for showing the barest level of competence?" | Oct 29 15:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | why? | Oct 29 15:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | i understand that theyre all suffering from fatal stockholm syndrome, | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: "I have to say, MARK_Z is on FIRE with support for Intrusion! We should all be grateful for what he is doing for schools" | Oct 29 15:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | but how can anyone write that with a straight face? | Oct 29 15:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: EXACTLY | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates is a good father, we should be grateful for his monopoly | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Stalin loves dogs, he's not as bad as historians who try to daemonise say | Oct 29 15:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah .. a co-worker who hangs out with BG tweeted recently, "What a great family! and great cause" | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | "Hitler loved juice" | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Obama too | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | But Obama is not so malicious | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Not that I know of | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I missed parts of his early life or just read puff pieces about him | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | PR dressed up as bio... | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | [15:15] <FurnaceBoy> yeah .. a co-worker who hangs out with BG tweeted recently, "What a great family! and great cause" | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | [15:15] <schestowitz> FurnaceBoy: Obama too | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | I was referring to that first one | Oct 29 15:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | ya | Oct 29 15:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | "he's just like us" | Oct 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Could be read out of sequence with the "Hitler" thing | Oct 29 15:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | haha | Oct 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, he helps journalists be paid | Oct 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz | They sell us ingorance | Oct 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz | And they can pay the mortgage | Oct 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz | And Bill gets to keep his tax exemption and president status | Oct 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz | NPR, Guardian, ABC........ lots more paid by Gates to praise his word | Oct 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz | *work | Oct 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I have another post abotu gates coming | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | The press portrays him now as that who fight against the rich | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Gist: | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | he lobbies for tax on the rich | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Snag? | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | He pays no tax!! | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Press doesn't know about it??? | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Gimme a break :-) | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | And he gets portrayed as one who wants the rich to pay more while he pays NONE. | Oct 29 15:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Oct 29 15:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah1 | Oct 29 15:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | man that was clever | Oct 29 15:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | gotta credit the guy 's strategic brains | Oct 29 15:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | he hacked the system | Oct 29 15:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | every which way | Oct 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: post almost ready | Oct 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | I add some context to it | Oct 29 15:28 |
| schestowitz | About FB | Oct 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | The PearlyG story I'll do later | Oct 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | “I think he [Bill Gates] has a Napoleonic concept of himself and his company" Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson | Oct 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/10/29/power-over-communities-misused/ | Oct 29 15:44 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: is Google bad for us? | Oct 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz | I am interested in your point of view | Oct 29 15:47 |
| schestowitz | The spinners never came up with very compelling arguments which showed me how harms outweighed the benefits | Oct 29 15:48 |
| schestowitz | AstroTurfers with their anti-Eric rhetoric are pathetic, but I'm sure some people can come up with a profound explanation about externalities in this case and you're good at that | Oct 29 15:49 |
| schestowitz | reason I ask: | Oct 29 15:49 |
| schestowitz | http://mashable.com/2010/10/29/james-cameron-eric-schmidt/? | Oct 29 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | "On stage at a private event in Silicon Valley last night, legendary director James Cameron and Google CEO Eric Schmidt held a fascinating two hour conversation that touched on everything from the technology needs of the upcoming Avatar 2 film to the perils that face the environment if action isn’t taken." | Oct 29 15:49 |
| schestowitz | facebook still has a "boycott novell" cause | Oct 29 15:50 |
| schestowitz | FOlks from India set it up some years ago, has many subs in it | Oct 29 15:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wordyard.com/2010/10/28/what-if-the-future-of-media-is-no-dominant-players-at-all/ | Oct 29 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What if the future of media is no dominant players at all? — Scott Rosenberg's Wordyard .::. Size~: 32.69 KB | Oct 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | "Denton’s Gawker, Huffington Post...." | Oct 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Oct 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Gawker = gossup | Oct 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Gawker = gossip | Oct 29 16:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I think Schmidt is bad | Oct 29 16:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: going from his public statements | Oct 29 16:29 |
| MinceR | and i agree | Oct 29 16:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | but I have much bigger problems with Facebook right now. google , 50-50 | Oct 29 16:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=443390892130 | Oct 29 16:30 |
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| FurnaceBoy | The comment by Rubin Safaya is angry but accurate | Oct 29 16:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | i think in general these companies are all opportunistic more or less. they're making a gold rush where the 'gold' is our private behaviour. so far, awareness of privacy is very low, and they are making a land grab while that is still true. i think the major backlashes are in the future. | Oct 29 16:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | facebook never made any promise not to be evil, and obviously, they're GUNNA be evil. | Oct 29 16:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if this anti-palestine thing is true, then they really make it to my shit list with bells on. | Oct 29 16:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but in fact i've heard of that before | Oct 29 16:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they claimed it was 'an accident' | Oct 29 16:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | hmmmm don't they always claim that? | Oct 29 16:33 |
| schestowitz | They were OK on other matters | Oct 29 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Like Draw Mo Day | Oct 29 16:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | exatcly | Oct 29 16:33 |
| schestowitz | They didn't pull down the page until FB was blocked by nations | Oct 29 16:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | Draw Mo is not a rights movement. | Oct 29 16:34 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, maybe there's some of that Zionism thing going on at FB, who knows... | Oct 29 16:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: count on it. | Oct 29 16:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's an american corporation.. zionism is in the blood | Oct 29 16:34 |
| schestowitz | That's a generalisation though | Oct 29 16:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: remember, only certain speech is 'free' :D | Oct 29 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "I like the principle in theory....." | Oct 29 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Or | Oct 29 16:35 |
| schestowitz | "As long as I tolerate the opposing view..' | Oct 29 16:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: well, here's why i think it's a safe generalisation ... | Oct 29 16:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: beyond a certain size, and with a certain ambition, you have to play by some rules | Oct 29 16:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's like the presidency | Oct 29 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Media rules too | Oct 29 16:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: to get that far, you have to have a mortgage on your principles | Oct 29 16:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: same is true of corporations | Oct 29 16:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if you want to play the game, you have to play those other games too | Oct 29 16:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so it's very simple | Oct 29 16:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: check for zionism at Disney, project. :D | Oct 29 16:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | anyway | Oct 29 16:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | i gotta work | Oct 29 16:37 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/57154201#notice-57664849 | Oct 29 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz What does Unity have to do with software patents?" | Oct 29 16:38 |
| schestowitz | That's a separate thing. Unity is a GNOME question mostly. Banshee uses parts of Mono that fall outside the MCP. | Oct 29 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | Better to ignore them now | Oct 29 16:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that facebook link i posted is interesting. the comments give a good cross-section of conflicting opinions | Oct 29 16:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it also shows that 'ordinary people' (non geeks) ARE very sensitive to privacy ... i got this link from a non-geek on twitter who was outraged | Oct 29 16:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and i see that women commenters are shocked too, THEY can see the problem here and the "oh it was all public anyway" geek males don['t get it | Oct 29 16:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: even people praising the feature always close with a "but privacy IS a problem" rider | Oct 29 16:48 |
| schestowitz | bingo | Oct 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz | The whole "only geeks care about digital rights..." | Oct 29 16:52 |
| schestowitz | They just happen to be thinking in advance about hoe technology will affect their peers | Oct 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | "[I]t doesn't excuse developing proprietary software. A desire for profit is not wrong in itself, but it isn't the sort of urgent overriding cause that could excuse mistreating others. Proprietary software divides the users and keeps them helpless, and that is wrong. Nobody should do that." http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/luispo-rms-interview.html | Oct 29 16:53 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: in that thread, it's the geeks who totally don't get it | Oct 29 16:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: in this respect they resemble Fuckerberg | Oct 29 16:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the wilful self-deception that what they are doing is harmless | Oct 29 16:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: see also -- arms industry | Oct 29 16:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "We're just helping kill bad guys" | Oct 29 16:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ask the mothers and fathers on the cluster bomb assembly lines | Oct 29 16:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | Christine Senack · Senack and Associates · 5 votes. | Oct 29 16:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | WOW! This is a ridiculous violation of privacy and will definitely inhibit my behavior here. This is actually unbelievable. Please give us the option to opt out of it immediately. Please | Oct 29 16:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | Daniela Galvan · Texas · 4 votes. | Oct 29 16:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | Can you please get rid of this? It's already bad enough that you post our recent activity on our wall and our friend's news feed!! AND CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE THE PRIVACY SETTINGS MORE SPECIFIC SO WE CAN STOP PEOPLE FROM SEEING OUR RECENT ACTIVITY AND THIS NEW "FRIENDSHIP" SHIT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH???? | Oct 29 16:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | Facebook stalking is bad enough!! | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | [16:55] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: "We're just helping kill bad guys" | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | It's more complex than that | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Nobody makes arms | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | They make components | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Parts | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | I knew people | Oct 29 16:57 |
| schestowitz | They'd say what they make | Oct 29 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Some pieces of metal here and there | Oct 29 16:58 |
| schestowitz | They don't need to assemble it to see the killing machine | Oct 29 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: good point. | Oct 29 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | FLOOD: | Oct 29 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | Amanda Meyer · Saint Louis · -9 votes. | Oct 29 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | Hey tards who are complaining about this being another "iinvasion of privacy", errrp, hello, facebook is a FREE social networking site, no one is bashing down your door and forcing you to share your life story (that no one actually gives a rip about anyway) online. No one is "stalking" you, you narcissistic idiots, do you really think you are that interesting or attractive??! Well let me | Oct 29 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | help you out, you are NOT. Ok. And unless your idiotic enough to include your address on your profile then you can stop stealing precious time from updating your status to worry about which of your imaginary stalkers will be able to see it now. | Oct 29 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | --- all class, the astroturfers --- | Oct 29 16:58 |
| schestowitz | [16:57] <FurnaceBoy> Facebook stalking is bad enough!! | Oct 29 16:59 |
| schestowitz | But that's the business model | Oct 29 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Peek and picky people | Oct 29 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | the best comment imho is this one ------------ | Oct 29 16:59 |
| schestowitz | With ads on the side | Oct 29 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | Rubin Safaya · 6 votes. | Oct 29 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | I love how the magical experience is so important to Mr. Kao here that he restricts all his profile information from public view. This is hypocrisy disguised as innovation. Facebook's business model relies too heavily on under-the-hood blatant invasions of privacy that they hope users ignore (out of sight, out of mind). They routinely push the boundaries of ethics until they get a slap | Oct 29 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | on the wrist, to see how far users will let them go... rather than holding themselves to any kind of standard of morals or ethics to their thinking in advance. | Oct 29 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | --- he got that exactly right... | Oct 29 16:59 |
| schestowitz | "They routinely push the boundaries of ethics until they get a slap" | Oct 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Yup | Oct 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Then they 'donate' to some schools | Oct 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | And Arianna goes for the purse | Oct 29 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Difference is, Google harvests info | Oct 29 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Science, photos of any nature, and news and people | Oct 29 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Facebook is focused on harvesting private data of just people, then selling that along with ads | Oct 29 17:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | right, google's activities are different, at least in search; what bothers me about google are more services like gmail, and the aggregation of user behaviour data | Oct 29 17:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | the spidering isn't the issue | Oct 29 17:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's all the personally identifiable stuff they get from their users | Oct 29 17:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | i won't use gmail | Oct 29 17:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | when you centralise that stuff, because they respond to subpoenas etc constantly, they are just acting as the Department of Information Retrieval | Oct 29 17:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | ppl are not backlashing agsinst google yet | Oct 29 17:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | and not really facebook yet either | Oct 29 17:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | as u see above, when they don't get it, they REALLY don't get it | Oct 29 17:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Stop trashing a brand I like!" | Oct 29 17:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | "<insert ad hominems here>" | Oct 29 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Oct 29 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Don't get me started on brands | Oct 29 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Like people who are led to view Coke or Apple as part of their personal character | Oct 29 17:29 |
| schestowitz | PR genius | Oct 29 17:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that comment above is illuminating. | Oct 29 17:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: a tribalism | Oct 29 17:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you sense that she would not hesitate to lash out with guns, knives, or boots | Oct 29 17:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: one side has reason -- the other side has tribalism | Oct 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | She? | Oct 29 17:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, she. | Oct 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Maybe. | Oct 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | She as in...? | Oct 29 17:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | The thread? | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | I haven't read it yet | Oct 29 17:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | i also pasted it above | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | In a hurry | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | I read that. yes | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | People are mostly dumb by design | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Being stupid is not a human condition | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | It's impose | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | It's imposed | Oct 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Any person can pick up a book and learn some basics like evolution rather than scripture | Oct 29 17:33 |
| schestowitz | But it's not healthy for a corporocracy | Oct 29 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Anyhoo... | Oct 29 17:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Oct 29 17:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/57157103#notice-57667775 "<a href="http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/2010/10/27/viral-patent/" title="Viral Patent"></a>" | Oct 29 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Huh? | Oct 29 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | "i have no chance to get used to be heard" | Oct 29 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Parody? | Oct 29 17:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj-Y2Mf2I5c | Oct 29 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | Bringing prayer back to schools, FurnaceBoy | Oct 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | We'll get to Mars "real soon now!!" | Oct 29 17:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | ... | Oct 29 17:54 |
| *abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Oct 29 18:23 | |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://uneasysilence.com/media/2010/10/Gates-WSJ.jpg | Oct 29 19:50 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 29 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | "ask someone who makes his living in the information business" | Oct 29 19:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | um, yeah. | Oct 29 19:50 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 29 19:51 |
| schestowitz | "Consider the posting at TechRights.com. Those moves are not a marker of a company with coffers full of cash. " http://thirdpipe.com/?p=7916 | Oct 29 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: » What Would You Do If& .::. Size~: 55.68 KB | Oct 29 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft up? | Oct 29 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah, tits-up | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: *LOL* | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Friendly | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Friendly to him | Oct 29 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Ignoring the reality | Oct 29 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the text really bears deconstructing... except it's pure copywriter smoke | Oct 29 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | or maybe not pure. | Oct 29 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's a micromanager, i guess, so some of the words are probably his | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Murdoch sucks that tit at Redmond conferences | Oct 29 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | good for his ego | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Even this eyar | Oct 29 20:21 |
| schestowitz | “Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch and Clayton Christensen at last year’s CEO Summit. (Microsoft photo)” | Oct 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/2300-13860_3-10003505.htmlhttp://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/ | Oct 29 20:23 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/05/24/murdochsoft-and-lobbying-event/ | Oct 29 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Walmart Chairman, Warren Buffett, Notorious Bankers, Timothy Geithner, and Even Queen of Jordan Come to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 114.51 KB | Oct 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/2300-13860_3-10003505.html | Oct 29 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Bill Gates image - Scenes from Microsoft's CEO Summit (photos) - CNET News .::. Size~: 40.57 KB | Oct 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Your leader | Oct 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Whom you never elected | Oct 29 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. | Oct 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | You paid him money though | Oct 29 20:23 |
| *FurnaceBoy shudders | Oct 29 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | When you bought all your computers | Oct 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter if he made those computers | Oct 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Now he wants to make money from Android devices too | Oct 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.amazon.com/Patent-Lie-Paul-Goldstein/dp/0385517181 | Oct 29 20:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Amazon.com: A Patent Lie (9780385517188): Paul Goldstein: Books .::. Size~: 328.24 KB | Oct 29 20:24 |
| schestowitz | He protested against software patents | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Now he likes them | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Now it's good for him, so morality is upside down | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | And Linux is 'stealing' | Oct 29 20:25 |
| schestowitz | "The best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating systems." --billg | Oct 29 20:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | sigh | Oct 29 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry | Oct 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | From rags (well, not quite, he was a spoiled rich child) to riches | Oct 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Now he can bribe journalists at pace of $100,000,000 per month to bury those stories | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Replace them by washing the press with worship pieces in 72 languages | Oct 29 20:33 |
| schestowitz | This was Melinda can convince the audience -- as she does (the WONDERFUL mother we are told she us) -- that Coca-Cola is a wonderful company [which her husband invests in] | Oct 29 20:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | :| | Oct 29 20:34 |
| schestowitz | She can say this to a global audience via satellite in TED-Xchange or whatever | Oct 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | After all, she's keynote speaker | Oct 29 20:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | see? they hacked the system. | Oct 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Guess who pays for the event :-) | Oct 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [20:35] <FurnaceBoy> see? they hacked the system. | Oct 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Well.. | Oct 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Th system runs Windows | Oct 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | So it's easy to hack :-) | Oct 29 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Oct 29 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Now they need to control phones for digital control to be complete with surveillance | Oct 29 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Pearly Dynasty is here to stay | Oct 29 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Like Mini-Rockefeller | Oct 29 20:36 |
| schestowitz | He already does trips to exploit China | Oct 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Where he bought enough paper to have Chinese women to yearn most for his sperm, said a recent survey | Oct 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Power or PR | Oct 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Gates has always praised PR in his E-MAIL | Oct 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Oct 29 20:37 | |
| FurnaceBoy | :| | Oct 29 20:37 |
| schestowitz | "You'll have to give me more to go on to find on that one... I couldn't find anything in either wikipedia nor google." http://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/statuses/29104924369 | Oct 29 20:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Laurel L. Russwurm: @schestowitz You'll have t ... .::. Size~: 12.68 KB | Oct 29 20:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cluecan.ca/node/307 | Oct 29 20:42 |
| schestowitz | "Many people have been asking for for more details on the high-school teacher who had his Linux Lab dismantled. " | Oct 29 20:43 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | "Many people have been asking for for more details on the high-school teacher who had his Linux Lab dismantled. " | Oct 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: you're under 50, right? | Oct 29 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Well under. | Oct 29 20:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | I am. | Oct 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | OK, good. You'll probably have far more time than Bill and Warren to do campaigning then... and explain what they did before becoming worm food. | Oct 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | And it all counts | Oct 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | To put it another way, I will probably live to see all of today's tyrants (bar Zuck) go away from this planet before I go | Oct 29 21:02 |
| schestowitz | And this give us, the next generation, more leverage for positive reform | Oct 29 21:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | i understand | Oct 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | THey can rarely install very effective heir because the family ones become better aware of their patents' effects on the surrounding and thus turn elsewhere. There are areas like Oil that may vanish, too. | Oct 29 21:03 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/c80453c9486a312c# | Oct 29 21:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 28.27 KB | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the advertisement. I never would have know about this | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | resource if it weren't for you. Your master Roy is happy, I'm sure. | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | SILLY TROLLS :_) | Oct 29 21:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | ... | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | aRGH...my shift key is messed | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | It gets stuck down, still | Oct 29 21:12 |
| schestowitz | "Spermowitz"? | Oct 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | Is this even an insult? | Oct 29 21:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | LOL | Oct 29 21:13 |
| schestowitz | They tried many variation. With Spermowitz... Maybe it means I'm a stud | Oct 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Sperm is just a young form of life | Oct 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | half-life | Oct 29 21:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODczMQ | Oct 29 21:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: [Phoronix] Well, Here's A Preview Of The Ad-Free Phoronix .::. Size~: 16.76 KB | Oct 29 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Attempts to make money publishing analysis ^^ | Oct 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Don't bother trying | Oct 29 21:18 |
| schestowitz | I'm just mixing writing with other work (research) | Oct 29 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | "Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal" | Oct 29 21:28 |
| schestowitz | When I look at it 'alta vista' mode I think "Nazi" | Oct 29 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Just me? | Oct 29 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Na* Na* | Oct 29 21:29 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 29 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Not just me then? | Oct 29 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Nadal | Oct 29 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Nutty Nadal | Oct 29 21:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/images?hl=&q=Nadal | Oct 29 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Nadal - Google Search .::. Size~: 64.71 KB | Oct 29 21:33 |
| schestowitz | I tested running MATLAB from the Fedora machine in the CS labs today (manchester) | Oct 29 21:38 |
| schestowitz | I think I'll convince my bosses to let me work from home while I'm on IRC and all | Oct 29 21:38 |
| schestowitz | That would be dream job | Oct 29 21:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Oct 29 21:39 |
| schestowitz | "@bix welcome to identi.ca. I've set it up such that all your dents will appear in #techrights IRC now." | Oct 29 21:45 |
| schestowitz | I've convinced some readers to dump FB | Oct 29 21:45 |
| schestowitz | And come to identica | Oct 29 21:45 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust diaspora much | Oct 29 21:46 |
| schestowitz | This evening in the car I convinced another person to delete his FB account | Oct 29 21:47 |
| schestowitz | But he doesn't remember his password! | Oct 29 21:47 |
| schestowitz | If you don't remember password, the BAD GUYS win! :-) ("DUmb fucks" remember?) | Oct 29 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Oct 29 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Put yout profile | Oct 29 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Harvest done | Oct 29 22:16 |
| schestowitz | TH user needn't answer question | Oct 29 22:16 |
| schestowitz | It's like self-checkin | Oct 29 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Or self-service station | Oct 29 22:16 |
| schestowitz | You get maikl | Oct 29 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "Paris Hilton (or other) wants to be your friend, go to Mark's DB to confirm you are friends and not insult Paris" | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | You click | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Enter | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Mark's DB does some AI | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Shows you people you'd know | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | You tick the ones you know | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | You then forget the password | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | But FBI gets what it needs | Oct 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Google has better profiling | Oct 29 22:18 |
| schestowitz | For snoops | Oct 29 22:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | i am concerned about this as well | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | SOme people theorise FB was created _FOR_ this | Oct 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Rather than the latter being afterthought of exploiting with a d0rm parasite created | Oct 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | /with/what/ | Oct 29 22:27 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy will LOVE this photo: http://www.boothlucking.co.uk/government-not-closing-the-loop-on-open-data | Oct 29 22:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Government not closing the loop on open data - Simon Booth-Lucking, Digital Consultant .::. Size~: 23.79 KB | Oct 29 22:30 |
| schestowitz | http://status.net/2010/10/28/ad-server-changes-on-identi-ca#comment-14802 "Well, if you'd taken steps to remove all spam I'm sure Adbard would cover 40% of the hosting costs. (I'm only partly joking. Identi.ca is overrun by spam, which in addition to keeping real users away, surly must have a significant impact on the hosting costs)" | Oct 29 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Ad server changes on Identi.ca | StatusNet .::. Size~: 32.04 KB | Oct 29 22:42 |
| schestowitz | "¿Fork de opensuse, quien sabe? http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/the-demise-of-opensuse/ "http://identi.ca/notice/57679788 | Oct 29 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Crisis of OpenSUSE in Novell/VMB_ware Hands | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.27 KB | Oct 29 23:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Fernando Antonio Mejia Chavez (feranto)'s status on Friday, 29-Oct-10 21:59:56 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.25 KB | Oct 29 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I did | Oct 29 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i wanted to republish | Oct 29 23:05 |
| schestowitz | the photo? | Oct 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I had a chat about this today | Oct 29 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I have a strong opinion on companies that help make a killing | Oct 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | And kill | Oct 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | And those who help those companies | Oct 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | "But I was educated to want to have money and if money if my way to give back to society, then I need to work for that company yada yada" | Oct 29 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to this guy who quit a high position in stock markets | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | To go be an activist in a community | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | He realise he was helping scam | Oct 29 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | "I was educated to want to have money" <---- | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | run by scum | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: that's another argument I had | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | About how today's young generation is raised | Oct 29 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Around status and hypeP* and stuff | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | In Brazil you make friends with people | Oct 29 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | i know | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | In the West you make friends with a gadget assembled by a kid who lost the opportunity to make friends | Oct 29 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | i see the effects of tv-carried materialism | Oct 29 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Yup | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Celebs too | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Look what they do | Oct 29 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | ask Quadrescence about it | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Good example: | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Jai Ho video | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Girls playing with hypePhone | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Beautiful girls+smartphone=fame | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Rings, trashy clothes, nice car... | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Psyche analysis. | Oct 29 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Oct 29 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | i know | Oct 29 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | bling | Oct 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | See original jai ho | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Nothing like it | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Let me find it... | Oct 29 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | nah it's ok | Oct 29 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm multitasking | Oct 29 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | like always :| | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | The Indian version | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Bollywood | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | jai ho | Oct 29 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | the funny thing about smartphones... | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jai_Ho | Oct 29 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | and laptops ... | Oct 29 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Jai Ho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 125.49 KB | Oct 29 23:11 |
| schestowitz | The West ripped them off | Oct 29 23:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | is that billionaires can't have better ones than we have :) | Oct 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Didn't know until someone told me | Oct 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | She showed me the ogirinal video | Oct 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Ripped off by 4 girls who call their band like one calls a vagina | Oct 29 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Coerced to promote Gurl Powa | Oct 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc5OyXmHD0w | Oct 29 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Jai Ho (You Are My Destiny) .::. Size~: 127.5 KB | Oct 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Oct 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | That's the copy | Oct 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DciW_yuQGCw | Oct 29 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Slumdog Millionaire Soundtrack - Jai Ho .::. Size~: 121.47 KB | Oct 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | India | Oct 29 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Meh. | Oct 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | " NOTICE This video contains an audio track that has not been authorised by all copyright holders. The audio has been disabled. More about copyright " | Oct 29 23:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/miracle-babies-survive-indonesian-tsunami/19695267 | Oct 29 23:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 'Miracle' Babies Survive Indonesian Tsunami .::. Size~: 103 KB | Oct 29 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Stupid AOL | Oct 29 23:54 |
| schestowitz | One of those religious things I think | Oct 29 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I didn't open the page | Oct 29 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Just saw it at the top with headline | Oct 29 23:54 |
| schestowitz | One of those "god" saved the loved baby [oh, so did he hate all the other babies? Did they become sinful?] | Oct 29 23:55 |
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