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| FurnaceBoy | why do you hate god, schestowitz ! | Oct 30 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | Quite frankly I never met her | Oct 30 00:10 |
| schestowitz | So there's no resentment either way | Oct 30 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Issue is, you alienate people when bringing up divisive issues like politics and religion. You can usually be liberal in FOSS blogs and alienate just a fringe/minority, but religions are less strongly correlated | Oct 30 00:12 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: to clarify "her"=God | Oct 30 00:12 |
| schestowitz | The joke might be missed there | Oct 30 00:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | i got it :) | Oct 30 00:12 |
| schestowitz | If she revealed herself to me, then ok | Oct 30 00:13 |
| schestowitz | But that would be a world's first | Oct 30 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Physics contradicted (aka "miracle") | Oct 30 00:13 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy:I saw someone in Twitter listed you under atheism | Oct 30 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Is that like an angle of your tweets? No AFAICT | Oct 30 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | But either way, one dilutes work in fields like computing if dealing with politics and/or religions at the sae time | Oct 30 00:15 |
| oiaohm | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODczNQ Interesting new location. | Oct 30 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Cause you leave yourself exposed to more confrontation from more angles | Oct 30 00:15 |
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| schestowitz | Unless those whom you have on your side align with your views in all three dimensions | Oct 30 00:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i don't talk about atheism | Oct 30 00:16 |
| *schestowitz adds oiaohm link | Oct 30 00:16 | |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I really don;t want to know what lists i am in | Oct 30 00:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it disappoints me that newtwitter forces that information to my attention | Oct 30 00:20 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/10/29/security.concern/ | Oct 30 00:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Suspicious packages 'contain explosive material,' Obama says - CNN.com .::. Size~: 47.24 KB | Oct 30 00:23 |
| schestowitz | CNN | Oct 30 00:23 |
| schestowitz | "be afraid" or real news? | Oct 30 00:23 |
| schestowitz | "@lnxwalt140 could be an attempt to justify reducing our liberties. CNN et al. I am always taking with a barrel of salt. c/f Iraq" | Oct 30 00:24 |
| schestowitz | [00:20] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: it disappoints me that newtwitter forces that information to my attention | Oct 30 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Yes, you get described by how people classify you | Oct 30 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Trolls included | Oct 30 00:25 |
| schestowitz | twit [sic] lists | Oct 30 00:25 |
| oiaohm | Moving to freedesktop is a major move. | Oct 30 00:29 |
| schestowitz | "@lnxwalt140 bombs and stuff get passed a lot of the time, unreported, just like arrests of people who threaten to kill Obama" | Oct 30 00:29 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah | Oct 30 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Other mergers: | Oct 30 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Thinking freedesktop is the biggest standard group of the Linux desktop world. | Oct 30 00:30 |
| schestowitz | PF and that embedded group | Oct 30 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Really I was expect it to end up at meego. | Oct 30 00:30 |
| oiaohm | Not freedesktop. | Oct 30 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Oct 30 00:31 |
| oiaohm | http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.3.6 The gstreamer one is larger here is larger than a lot of people guess. | Oct 30 00:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WineHQ - Wine Announcement .::. Size~: 36.73 KB | Oct 30 00:37 |
| oiaohm | All gstreamer codecs will be provided threw to replace standard windows ones. | Oct 30 00:37 |
| oiaohm | 2 and a half years work on that gstreamer one. | Oct 30 00:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: new release? | Oct 30 00:39 |
| schestowitz | HMMM... seems like it | Oct 30 00:45 |
| oiaohm | Every two weeks as normal. schestowitz | Oct 30 00:58 |
| oiaohm | But some releases are more key than others. | Oct 30 00:59 |
| oiaohm | Wine is really an example of how fast a software development process can run. | Oct 30 00:59 |
| oiaohm | Lot of key things are done by wine to achive that speed. Lot of projects don't have near the same frameworks as wine. | Oct 30 01:00 |
| oiaohm | In theory wine can kick it self up to a max speed of a release a week. | Oct 30 01:00 |
| oiaohm | And i do mean max. | Oct 30 01:00 |
| oiaohm | At that point everyone is being stress to limit. | Oct 30 01:01 |
| schestowitz | wine is important for legacy | Oct 30 01:01 |
| schestowitz | One day fewer machines will run Windows | Oct 30 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Then we need dosbox-like things | Oct 30 01:01 |
| oiaohm | Wine is also important to QA R&D as well. schestowitz | Oct 30 01:02 |
| schestowitz | wine codebase is used by many projects | Oct 30 01:02 |
| schestowitz | My nephew Tom might grow up in a world without Windows if Microsoft falls fast enough | Oct 30 01:02 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: how so? | Oct 30 01:02 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the auditing methods Linux kernel is picking up now wine as using 12 years ago. | Oct 30 01:02 |
| oiaohm | Wine automated testsuite was also a first. | Oct 30 01:03 |
| oiaohm | To be correct automated sharing of testsuite runs. | Oct 30 01:03 |
| oiaohm | Biggest treasure of wine is not its windows compadiblity but the methods its mastered to run a release system as fast as it can without major regressions. | Oct 30 01:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: watch out for that Phinney guy... you know he's Adobe employee? or was... | Oct 30 01:06 |
| oiaohm | http://source.winehq.org/patches/ This has to be one of the neatest patch submission and feed back systems I have seen on any open source project. | Oct 30 01:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Patches list .::. Size~: 49.75 KB | Oct 30 01:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Adobe people are extremely smug | Oct 30 01:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so i left a comment on that blog post ;-) | Oct 30 01:06 |
| oiaohm | Really I should do a write up on Wine secert to speed. | Oct 30 01:08 |
| schestowitz | [01:06] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: watch out for that Phinney guy... you know he's Adobe employee? or was... | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | WHERE? | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | I mean, did I mention such a name? | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Damn | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | CAPS again | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | No shouting "where?" | Oct 30 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | you repeated an @mairin dent about font hinting patents | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | She's cool | Oct 30 01:09 |
| schestowitz | FLOSSer | Oct 30 01:10 |
| schestowitz | anti-Adobe Trahs AFAIK | Oct 30 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Its nice that font hinting patents are dead. | Oct 30 01:10 |
| schestowitz | *Trash too | Oct 30 01:10 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: not yet | Oct 30 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft still has some | Oct 30 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Apple's expird | Oct 30 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Really Microsoft ones are nothing. | Oct 30 01:10 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/07/21/freetype-vs-swpats/ | Oct 30 01:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Apple Patents That Retard GNU/Linux/X Font Rendering Finally Expire, Microsoft Still a Barrier (ClearType Patents) | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.46 KB | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: true | Oct 30 01:11 |
| oiaohm | There is a second older method of doing the same thing as what Microsoft software patents cover. | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | FFT iitc | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | FFT iirc | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | and Microsoft messes that up, too | Oct 30 01:11 |
| oiaohm | Taking hinting data from the font it self was a jaor problem. | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | Windows on flatscreen can be butt ugly... font rendering | Oct 30 01:11 |
| oiaohm | freetype uses the older method. | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | even Visra | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | even Vista | Oct 30 01:11 |
| schestowitz | I saw that on a mate's machine | Oct 30 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Big problem with the older method is it takes a little more cpu/gpu time. | Oct 30 01:12 |
| oiaohm | But that is the total cost difference. | Oct 30 01:12 |
| oiaohm | Big advantage of the older method it truly works. | Oct 30 01:12 |
| oiaohm | So in the grand stock pile of patents MS patents are worthless. | Oct 30 01:13 |
| oiaohm | When it comes to font rendering. | Oct 30 01:13 |
| oiaohm | My system came a lot nicer on eyes after installing the newer freetype. | Oct 30 01:15 |
| oiaohm | Biggest problem left for open source is fontforge one of the major font editors of open source last time I checked did not support creating hinting data. | Oct 30 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Then the font issue will be completely put to bed one and for all. | Oct 30 01:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | it supports hinting at least to some degree, both manual and automatic. | Oct 30 01:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | Type1 hinting is very simple | Oct 30 01:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | only TrueType has much sophistication | Oct 30 01:18 |
| oiaohm | TrueType sophistication is really good for font coner case issues. | Oct 30 01:20 |
| oiaohm | I was refering to the hinting data from truetype. | Oct 30 01:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | it has manual and automatic hinting for truetype | Oct 30 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Stick shift? | Oct 30 01:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | spline shift! | Oct 30 01:35 |
| oiaohm | So from my eyes the fontissue is dead. | Oct 30 01:40 |
| oiaohm | You don't hear people complaining about Linux poor font rendering any more. | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | True | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | I remember that... | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | 2005ish | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Font this, font that | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | That's off the FUD whiteboard now | Oct 30 01:41 |
| oiaohm | Next battles are colour management. | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | swpats | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | NOT TECHNICAL ANYMORE | Oct 30 01:41 |
| schestowitz | ARGH... aps again | Oct 30 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Worse. With color management. | Oct 30 01:42 |
| schestowitz | sorry about CAPS | Oct 30 01:42 |
| schestowitz | keyboard malfunction | Oct 30 01:42 |
| *schestowitz goes looking for another keyboard... | Oct 30 01:42 | |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: right | Oct 30 01:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: i use os x and linux side by side, i don't have a problem with freetype today | Oct 30 01:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | os x is the gold standard of course hehe | Oct 30 01:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: colour management... i started looking at integrating littlecms into one of my projects yesterday. MIT license. | Oct 30 01:43 |
| oiaohm | pantone The big evil of colormanagement. | Oct 30 01:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: works with ICC | Oct 30 01:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh yeah... | Oct 30 01:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | fracking pantone... | Oct 30 01:43 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Oct 30 01:44 | |
| oiaohm | No one really knows what it is. | Oct 30 01:44 |
| oiaohm | Its it patents is it copyright is it trademarks or is it a evil mix of all three. | Oct 30 01:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | fud works best when left undefined :D sco | Oct 30 01:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: really? 'some know they harmed society' ? | Oct 30 01:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | one day everyone will know | Oct 30 01:46 |
| schestowitz | Plamondon-yes | Oct 30 01:47 |
| schestowitz | And I posted other mails from people like Tandy | Oct 30 01:47 |
| oiaohm | At least the the patents over cms are dead. | Oct 30 01:47 |
| oiaohm | They died around the same time as the font ones. | Oct 30 01:47 |
| schestowitz | blackboard has some over moodle/sakai functionality | Oct 30 01:47 |
| schestowitz | with 'promise' | Oct 30 01:47 |
| schestowitz | Nothing legally-binding | Oct 30 01:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://schoology.com | Oct 30 01:48 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://orgsync.com | Oct 30 01:48 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: [21:10] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [toros/@toros] The next #UDS will be in #Budapest (May 9-13, 2011) !ubuntu #locoteams !ubuntuhu | Oct 30 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | What a pet name for New York Times? | Oct 30 03:04 |
| schestowitz | New York Slime? | Oct 30 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Might sound insulting to NY | Oct 30 03:05 |
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| MinceR | New York Lies? | Oct 30 06:25 |
| schestowitz | Tab is Tax. "well that is true. Not saying that *I* want to buy it. Just glad that its coming to the Indian market rather than not at all" http://twitter.com/gotunandan/statuses/29155802763 | Oct 30 08:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / gotunandan: @schestowitz well that is ... .::. Size~: 12.62 KB | Oct 30 08:33 |
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| schestowitz | #Identica is acting up (since around last night). Sometimes there's lag, which puts dents out of synch. | Oct 30 10:30 |
| schestowitz | "Spotlight on Linux: Arch #gnu #Linux 2010.05 http://ur1.ca/27xtp "ability to give the user a feeling of ownership"" | Oct 30 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | Gone... | Oct 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | I hate it when services lost data I post... | Oct 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | And all I can do is ask *them* to debt their side | Oct 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/Radar_tty/status/29168545560 "can't be sure of that yet :/ feature functionality and design or app store which one to pick?" | Oct 30 10:41 |
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| schestowitz | "I've sold code and shared code since 1980... " http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/29176728848 | Oct 30 13:42 |
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| schestowitz | "demonise, not daemonise (BSD is all about the daemons) - and I was referring to your demonisation of the word "choice" :)" http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/29176650154 | Oct 30 13:42 |
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| schestowitz | Like the words "rights" and "open", the word "choice" has been co-opted and used by those who oppose these notions | Oct 30 13:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/jeremie_laval "Mono hacker. UTBM student. FOSS enthusiast. Novell intern." | Oct 30 22:56 |
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