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| qu1j0t3 | but in a way he is. he's worthless if your aim is to run an ethical business. | Oct 03 00:00 |
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| qu1j0t3 | he's perfect if you want criminal scum | Oct 03 00:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | and liars | Oct 03 00:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mono index recently exceeded 10k pageviews http://ur1.ca/1x784 Mono Applications at 17,497 http://ur1.ca/1x788 | Oct 03 00:00 | |
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| qu1j0t3 | if you have no principles you can get very rich in this world... | Oct 03 00:00 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, Ballmer is worth 15 to 16 billion, depending on the price of MS Stock on any certain day | Oct 03 00:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | right. 'wot, me worry' | Oct 03 00:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | insider selling continues, i expect. | Oct 03 00:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as far as I see, Ballmer is a complete tightwad that gives nothing to charity | Oct 03 00:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | doesn't care about washing his reputation, i guess. | Oct 03 00:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but he did give 100k to the group to stop the taxes on the rich (himself) in his home state, so maybe he does 'give.' | Oct 03 00:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | "465th on the Forbes Executive Pay in 2010 | Oct 03 00:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | but: | Oct 03 00:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | "33rd on the Forbes World's Richest People in 2010 | Oct 03 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, exactly, something dosn't add up there | Oct 03 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | i guess when he 'retires' he'll start doing damage with philanthropy | Oct 03 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: why not? | Oct 03 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's been there since 1980. | Oct 03 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | in other words, he lived through the 2 decades of insane growth. | Oct 03 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its obvious that Ballmer makes more than the guys working for him | Oct 03 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | his wealth would have been based on stock socked away over those years | Oct 03 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | he must be making it with higher stock options | Oct 03 00:04 |
| cubevector | schestowitz, this might be too much for my server | Oct 03 00:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, this is the weird part: "Fortune:Self Made" | Oct 03 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which is how he got all that stock | Oct 03 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Oct 03 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: but not lately. | Oct 03 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: his bonuses have been cut. | Oct 03 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: his wealth is from previous fat years, and MANY of them. | Oct 03 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but they did not talk about the stock options | Oct 03 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: the 80s and 90s were the glory days | Oct 03 00:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: rivers of gold | Oct 03 00:05 |
| cubevector | I think we better change it to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRBoi1At_0 | Oct 03 00:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - konsole demo .::. Size~: 105.11 KB | Oct 03 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | if he is not getting stock or kickbacks, then he is in it for the power | Oct 03 00:06 |
| *qu1j0t3 closes the page.. ugh | Oct 03 00:06 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | what is a few million, if you have 15 billion or more? | Oct 03 00:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: he's minding the farm while Gates is off wrecking the world in ways he couldn't behind a desk at MS | Oct 03 00:07 |
| cubevector | 500 downloads and counting | Oct 03 00:07 |
| cubevector | that's like 8 gigs | Oct 03 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <cubevector> 500 downloads and counting" you cpu and lan card must be frying, better put a huge fan on them | Oct 03 00:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Oct 03 00:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decided to try Peppermint Ice | Oct 03 00:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just realised that sounds like a toothpaste more than a linux distro but hey, it's erm.....uhm....cool | Oct 03 00:08 | |
| cubevector | Chips_B_Malroy, the thing is I'm not sure what my transfer limit is | Oct 03 00:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | quote from the link: "But the board also cited some issues with Ballmer's management in recent months--the company's fiscal year runs from July to June. It said that "the unsuccessful launch of the Kin phone; loss of market share in the company's mobile phone business; and the need for the Company to pursue innovations to take advantage of new form factors" also factored into its compensation decision." | Oct 03 00:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | poor little rich man | Oct 03 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb its a great distro that Ive followed since the early releases...great team too! Very friendly bunch! !peppermint | Oct 03 00:10 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, its so sad | Oct 03 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | Ok we already know this stuff, but anyway http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206692/5_things_linux_does_better_than_mac_os_x.html | Oct 03 00:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5 Things Linux Does Better Than Mac OS X - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 71.35 KB | Oct 03 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | altough I didn't reolise that OS X has admin like Windows, but sure that makes sense | Oct 03 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | From a comment on that link I posted: "The big Balm shouldn't get any bonus. He has presided over failure after failure at Microsoft. If the board and Gates had any guts they would fire him." | Oct 03 00:13 |
| cubevector | ok, tessier or schestowitz just the clip of the day to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtRBoi1At_0 when you get a chance | Oct 03 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - konsole demo .::. Size~: 105.94 KB | Oct 03 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And that was the very first comment | Oct 03 00:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes I've been a regular in the mint channels for ages now, a lot of the people are the same people | Oct 03 00:13 | |
| cubevector | I removed the video from my server | Oct 03 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | apparnetly its more like Unix/Linux since root | Oct 03 00:15 |
| *sebsebseb doesn't own a Mac :) | Oct 03 00:15 | |
| qu1j0t3 | This is false. "Systems crashes and downtime are pretty much a fact of life when you're a Mac user" | Oct 03 00:18 |
| *Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message) | Oct 03 00:18 | |
| qu1j0t3 | I use both every day. I get a Mac kernel panic maybe once a year, or every 2 years. | Oct 03 00:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a nix kernel, Darwin/BSD so its stable | Oct 03 00:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | OS X is bulletproof. This guy doesn't appear to be familiar with it. Most of the points are philosophical generalities. | Oct 03 00:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: quite so. | Oct 03 00:19 |
| *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights | Oct 03 00:19 | |
| qu1j0t3 | of course Linux runs on more hardware than OS X. And NetBSD on more hardware than Linux. ... | Oct 03 00:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | like Linux, which is probably more bulletproof than Mac | Oct 03 00:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: no, it's not. | Oct 03 00:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | they are, however, comparable. | Oct 03 00:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | i run them side by side for many years. his point is false. | Oct 03 00:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I found it a bit too locked down for me to use compared to Linux | Oct 03 00:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But superior to Windows | Oct 03 00:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | sure. there's no good user-level package manager. but it's not aimed at developers. | Oct 03 00:21 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://thenextweb.com/asia/2010/10/01/mozilla-foundation-stokes-firefox-popularity-in-indonesia/ Why are people baffled the explain starts here. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3370503002.html | Oct 03 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: So how on earth did Firefox reach 70% market share in Indonesia? .::. Size~: 94.52 KB | Oct 03 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indonesia adopts JDS on Linux as a national desktop .::. Size~: 34.13 KB | Oct 03 00:21 |
| oiaohm | From 2005 indonesia goverment has been Linux so all web sites by goverment are tested with firefox not IE | Oct 03 00:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: that's good. common sense at last. | Oct 03 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Also GNU/Linux runs very well (FREE) compared to Mac OS X on hardware that costs 3x as much. | Oct 03 00:22 |
| oiaohm | So you want to do business in indonesia you better use firefox. | Oct 03 00:22 |
| oiaohm | I also guess chrome has high usage as well. | Oct 03 00:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: Linux on PowerPC isn't so well supported. I only own PowerPC Macs. | Oct 03 00:22 |
| oiaohm | And IE would be no existant in indonesia | Oct 03 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Funny part is all windows dvd's to come into australia come from indonesia | Oct 03 00:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I think Mepis runs on Mac as well | Oct 03 00:23 |
| gnufreex | [01:17:58] <qu1j0t3> of course Linux runs on more hardware than OS X. And NetBSD on more hardware than Linux. ... | Oct 03 00:23 |
| gnufreex | that is myth. NetBSD only run on more CPUs (not more hardware) because it uses old code and puts portability over anything. Buy being able to boot NetBSD on something like PA-RISC, gets you nowhere. NetBSD doesn't support most of harware that goes with CPUs that NetBSD support. | Oct 03 00:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: well, it's not exactly a myth, but it's not a very important point either. | Oct 03 00:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | optimized for it I should say | Oct 03 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Linux supports more cpus than NetBSD by the way. gnufreex | Oct 03 00:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: On the common linux platforms, there is good device support. netBSD is a different market. | Oct 03 00:23 |
| oiaohm | NetBSD hardware coverage is not great. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| oiaohm | Use to be about 5 to 6 years ago. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| oiaohm | But time has moved on. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, over 50 ports. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | But Mac is not FREE, or really supports FREEdom | Oct 03 00:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | linux focuses on x86, now. Alpha, PPC, SPARC, all stagnant. | Oct 03 00:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | though I've run all of them , and 68K, etc, at some point. | Oct 03 00:25 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Apple is even suing Google for Android | Oct 03 00:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | Linux ran fairly nicely on Alpha (the first non-x86 port, after all) | Oct 03 00:25 |
| oiaohm | You have missed arm tile and a whole stack of network structs cpus Linux wupports. | Oct 03 00:25 |
| oiaohm | supports qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: I was naming stagnant platforms. | Oct 03 00:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: not listing supported ones. | Oct 03 00:25 |
| oiaohm | PPC linux still works quite well. | Oct 03 00:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | Linux' home will always be x86, for desktops. | Oct 03 00:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: yeah but you're always fighting stagnation. the installed bases are tiny. | Oct 03 00:26 |
| gnufreex | Linux support POWER and s390x, that is very active (IBM). Alo tilera port is getting into mainline. | Oct 03 00:26 |
| oiaohm | I would be beting that qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: I used to use it in 2001-ish, on PPC604 | Oct 03 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Arm is going after the desktop. qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ran it on Alpha for years after that | Oct 03 00:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: sure ARM! | Oct 03 00:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: but that isn't among the platforms I listed as stagnant. | Oct 03 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Also china is pushing MIPS | Oct 03 00:27 |
| gnufreex | qu1j0t3: It is not stagnant. IBM sells POWER 7 with Linux | Oct 03 00:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: w00t, for desktops? | Oct 03 00:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oiaohm explains that 70% in #Indonesia use Firefox because"Indonesia adopts JDS on !Linux as a national desktop" http://ur1.ca/1x7mf | Oct 03 00:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indonesia adopts JDS on Linux as a national desktop .::. Size~: 34.13 KB | Oct 03 00:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: server is different kettle of fish... see also: NetBSD and devices. | Oct 03 00:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/51505-yes-windows-phone-7-is-doomed | Oct 03 00:27 |
| gnufreex | qu1j0t3: not for desktops. But it is same code. | Oct 03 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yes, Windows Phone 7 is doomed | TG Daily .::. Size~: 47.56 KB | Oct 03 00:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: all of these discussions require qualification of "market" | Oct 03 00:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: mobile/desktop/server/embedded | Oct 03 00:27 |
| oiaohm | IBM provides the PPC version of the Linux kernel qu1j0t3 out side mainline with better updates. | Oct 03 00:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: i wouldn't be hoping for much excitement on Linux/pa-risc or linux/powerpc desktops. | Oct 03 00:28 |
| oiaohm | I will IBM would sync. qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | or linux/sparc desktops. | Oct 03 00:28 |
| oiaohm | I wish IBM would sync | Oct 03 00:28 |
| oiaohm | I know because I still use PPC embed. qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | EMBEDDED, oiaohm . | Oct 03 00:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | different market. | Oct 03 00:28 |
| *qu1j0t3 sighs | Oct 03 00:28 | |
| oiaohm | No netbsd targets embed. | Oct 03 00:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | look at NetBSD strength in embedded. | Oct 03 00:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| oiaohm | It found in quite a few routers. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a very major target. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Oct 03 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Because I?m not sure if there is anyone I know who would seriously consider purchasing a Windows-powered phone. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Seriously, folks, how many people do you see running around proudly flashing their Zunes? ?? | Oct 03 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Um, yeah.?? Probably not that many, right? | Oct 03 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | " | Oct 03 00:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: a quick glance at netbsd.org will show you many embedded platforms | Oct 03 00:29 |
| oiaohm | So when talking about netbsd vs linux you have to consider embeded. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, duh. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's what I have been saying? | Oct 03 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Not desktop | Oct 03 00:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | duh? | Oct 03 00:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think you might have missed some of the conversation. | Oct 03 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Windows Phone 7 may not fail as utterly as the hipster-oriented Kin. But the overhyped smartphone platform is doomed nonetheless." | Oct 03 00:29 |
| oiaohm | But in embeded LInux support hardware than netbsd. | Oct 03 00:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a quote from the link I posted | Oct 03 00:30 |
| gnufreex | qu1j0t3: Why is important if it is diffrent market? It is same OS. You said POWER and SPARC ports are abandoned. I think only SPARC is abandoned. | Oct 03 00:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: well, for example, I run PowerPC desktops and laptops. linux on these is stagnant compared to x86. but this should surprise few. | Oct 03 00:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | on the desktop sparc has more of a chance | Oct 03 00:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, maybe 8 yrs ago, it did :) | Oct 03 00:31 |
| gnufreex | qu1j0t3: If it is 32-bit, then it is abandoned. 64-bit POWER is developed extensively. | Oct 03 00:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | but in reality there's no user base to sustain it | Oct 03 00:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: POWER is server platform. | Oct 03 00:31 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/technologybrierdudleysblog/2013050703_microsoft_uses_anti-linux_tact.html wow a good article from Seattle | Oct 03 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brier Dudley's Blog | Microsoft using anti-Linux tactic against Google's Android | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 55.36 KB | Oct 03 00:31 |
| gnufreex | qu1j0t3: POWER is same as PPC. | Oct 03 00:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: Linux on PowerPC, such as I use, is not going to keep up with Linux on x86 desktop. | Oct 03 00:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: in what sense? POWER is server. | Oct 03 00:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched The A-Team imdb.com/title/tt0429493/ ★★☆☆☆ nice start to franchise, but action was.. too unbelievable (similar to Die Hard 4) | Oct 03 00:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NHS Opens a Door to Free Software This Month http://ur1.ca/1x7pm #NHS and software freedom? Maybe the start of it all? !fs !fsf #health | Oct 03 00:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NHS Opens a Door to Free Software This Month | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.99 KB | Oct 03 00:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: I use 32-bit and 64-bit PowerPC. sure, Linux will *run*, I guess, but how active is the development? | Oct 03 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: BBC News mentioned Motoralla being sued by the way | Oct 03 00:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/NHS | Oct 03 00:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NHS - Techrights .::. Size~: 14.37 KB | Oct 03 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: on the TV thing at night for example. I mean the news at the bottom going across the screen | Oct 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: how does it portray Microsoft's action? | Oct 03 00:33 |
| gnufreex | qu1j0t3: Do you talk about kernel or what? Developlent is active, only if you expect things like Flash to work, you are hosed. | Oct 03 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and so I guess in their tech news section to, but I haven't looked | Oct 03 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | on the site | Oct 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | As "poor Microsoft" having its things "stolen"? | Oct 03 00:33 |
| oiaohm | Have you ever used crux linux qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: well, all things matter to an end user, but all of these things are relatively stagnant. | Oct 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Or vicious dying monopolist attacking the industry? | Oct 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | That's what matters | Oct 03 00:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: Crux? no. | Oct 03 00:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] never rule MS out of a market, if a general is willing to sacrifice most of his troops to win the hill instead of good tactics | Oct 03 00:33 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I guess time to have a look for something about it in the online news | Oct 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | The BBC is FILLED with MS UK employees | Oct 03 00:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: when I used Linux on PPC it was Yellowdog and a few others. LinuxPPC | Oct 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Please check | Oct 03 00:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "I wonder if Google will step up to defend Android, or resurrect the coalition of phone companies that initially backed the software to either fight Microsoft's lawsuit or sort out a licensing arrangement." | Oct 03 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Report so we can report on it :-) | Oct 03 00:34 |
| oiaohm | It desktop and still has fully functional and uptodate PPC version. qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:34 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I think "vicious dying monopolist attacking the industry" is the more accurate | Oct 03 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Cool! | Oct 03 00:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: well that's nice, but i don't need it. and the user base is tiny, so ... | Oct 03 00:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Meanwhile, Microsoft is happy to sell the phone companies its new phone operating system, which has presumably gone through a gauntlet of patent lawyers. Apparently Motorola hasn't signed up yet for Windows Phone 7." | Oct 03 00:34 |
| oiaohm | Not that tiny. qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: however last night / this morning I saw it at the bottom of the screen, on the thing I was on about | Oct 03 00:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: compared to x86 :) | Oct 03 00:34 |
| oiaohm | When doing embed work having the same cpu core as device is useful. | Oct 03 00:35 |
| oiaohm | crux can also be cut completely down for embeding. | Oct 03 00:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: in the meantime, speaking of tiny user-bases, my brother has got 2.6 latest and glibc working on Mac/68K... | Oct 03 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @johndrinkwater you've never seen a group of misfits fly a tank? that happens all the time rofl | Oct 03 00:35 | |
| qu1j0t3 | and Linux/VAX is progressing. Sorta. | Oct 03 00:35 |
| oiaohm | netbsd and crux have about the same size userbase. | Oct 03 00:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | at least it's up to 2.6 as well, now. | Oct 03 00:36 |
| oiaohm | For the same reasons as well. | Oct 03 00:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.mobileshop.com/blog/mobile-phone-blogs/windows-phone-7-ad-appears-but-analyst-says-microsoft-will-fail/ | Oct 03 00:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Phone 7 ad appears, but analyst says Microsoft will FAIL | MobileShop.com .::. Size~: 68.96 KB | Oct 03 00:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'b 4 | Oct 03 00:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | oop | Oct 03 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ah yes now I remember I really don't like the new look for the BBC News site, compared to the old one | Oct 03 00:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Eric Bleeker, analyst over at The Motley Fool, reckons Windows Phone 7 might be humped before it even gets going. To quote the erstwhile Mr Bleeker, ?I hate to sound dismissive of Windows Phone 7 before it even hits stores, but the deck is stacked against it. Regardless of Windows Phone 7?s features, it?s just too late in the game.?" | Oct 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: just added the youtube link. Check to see it works | Oct 03 00:37 |
| cubevector | ok | Oct 03 00:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: how do u feel about Gates owning The Guardian? | Oct 03 00:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @thistleweb nor seen people play skittles with shipping containers! | Oct 03 00:38 | |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: Does he? | Oct 03 00:39 |
| *sebsebseb is behind with most tech news at the moment | Oct 03 00:39 | |
| sebsebseb | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069 | Oct 03 00:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | this isn't tech news. file under Realpolitik | Oct 03 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Change to 'Bios' will make for PCs that boot in seconds .::. Size~: 51.8 KB | Oct 03 00:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.softsailor.com/news/43796-atts-htc-mondrian-ads-parodied-missing-windows-phone-7-features-pointed-out.html | Oct 03 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: AT&Ts HTC Mondrian Ads Parodied, Missing Windows Phone 7 Features Pointed Out - SoftSailor .::. Size~: 34.51 KB | Oct 03 00:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Earlier today we showed you AT&T?s leaked ads of the HTC Mondrian, probably the carrier?s first Windows Phone 7 smartphone. Well, the first Windows Phone 7 parodies didn?t fail to show up so if you want to mock Microsoft and Windows Phone 7 ads (including myself), then you can show them this video." | Oct 03 00:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.guardian.co.uk/gnm-press-office/guardian-launches-global-development-site | Oct 03 00:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Guardian launches global development website with Gates Foundation | GNM press office | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 52.16 KB | Oct 03 00:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | "GODS WITH CHEQUEBOOKS" (I shit you not) http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2010/sep/17/melinda-gates-microsoft-foundation-charity | Oct 03 00:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Melinda Gates: gods with chequebooks | From the Guardian | The Guardian .::. Size~: 85.04 KB | Oct 03 00:40 |
| sebsebseb | Yeah 3D TV is the latest hype http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/11446978 | Oct 03 00:40 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "The parody says that Windows Phone 7 can?t copy and paste, can?t multitask, and can?t tether. All of these are true, but Microsoft said that these functionalities will become available soon after launch." | Oct 03 00:40 |
| cubevector | schestowitz, yup it works fine | Oct 03 00:40 |
| cubevector | thanks, it was just generating too much traffic for me | Oct 03 00:41 |
| oiaohm | Hmm another pack of fake promises to sell stuff Chips_B_Malroy | Oct 03 00:41 |
| oiaohm | Remember all the promises about vista and windows 7 that did not get given. | Oct 03 00:41 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://blogs.computerworld.com/17005/windows_7_fail_viva_la_vista?source=rss_blogs | Oct 03 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | How much? | Oct 03 00:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @johndrinkwater after the flying tank that was nothing lol | Oct 03 00:42 | |
| _Goblin | Chips_B_Malroy: yep, and they'll suck a little more money out of for each feature...either that or its not got that functionality because they are rushing in out in a vain hope of getting some of the market share. | Oct 03 00:42 |
| _Goblin | *rushing it | Oct 03 00:42 |
| schestowitz | You run it on your own box/connection at home? | Oct 03 00:42 |
| oiaohm | They have to rush because there market share is vaporising. | Oct 03 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: ^^^^^ | Oct 03 00:43 |
| _Goblin | or vaporised... | Oct 03 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Oct 03 00:43 |
| schestowitz | cubevector: ^^^ | Oct 03 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | 3D TV might become like Mac's soon, you know for people who think they are so cool for having | Oct 03 00:43 |
| ThistleWeb | or evaporating | Oct 03 00:43 |
| cubevector | schestowitz, yeah | Oct 03 00:43 |
| oiaohm | evaporating is current status _Goblin | Oct 03 00:43 |
| oiaohm | There is still a little bit of liquid of a market share there. | Oct 03 00:43 |
| _Goblin | its not going to go Microsofts way though if the analyists are correct. | Oct 03 00:44 |
| _Goblin | *analists | Oct 03 00:44 |
| _Goblin | *or something..... | Oct 03 00:44 |
| oiaohm | MS in mobile phones are mostly down to the DIE hard MS people and the people who cannot afford to upgrade. | Oct 03 00:44 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah they do like screwing people so analists my work | Oct 03 00:44 |
| _Goblin | lol.. | Oct 03 00:44 |
| oiaohm | But the die hards will only put up with a weak device for so long. | Oct 03 00:45 |
| _Goblin | my bad spelling is rather apt then! | Oct 03 00:45 |
| ThistleWeb | freudian slip | Oct 03 00:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a phone, I do not see the loyality with phone OS'es like computers. With computers users sometimes feel locked into uses an OS or certain programs. I do not see that with phones. | Oct 03 00:46 |
| oiaohm | There is a little lock in. Chips_B_Malroy | Oct 03 00:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Which is why I think MS is going to take a big beating on phones | Oct 03 00:47 |
| oiaohm | Internal company apps for phones Chips_B_Malroy | Oct 03 00:47 |
| ThistleWeb | with gadgets people are buying a lieftsyle choice, membership to a peer group, people WANT to belong to apple, and adnroid, they dont want to belong to mictrosoft | Oct 03 00:47 |
| oiaohm | But yes its way smaller. | Oct 03 00:47 |
| oiaohm | And if they are forced to wait to long that lock in can be broken. | Oct 03 00:47 |
| ThistleWeb | for many many people their only expeience of Microsoft is constant virus issues, reboots etc | Oct 03 00:47 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | mostly I see people who are buying a phone, except for many the iOs users | Oct 03 00:48 |
| ThistleWeb | even if they're not aware there's any choice, it's not a positive association, it's tollerating them because they either have to or think they have to | Oct 03 00:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or Blackberry | Oct 03 00:48 |
| ThistleWeb | I still reckon RIM should do a small device designed to clip onto a belt called a Dangleberry | Oct 03 00:48 |
| ThistleWeb | or a keyring | Oct 03 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11457611 | Oct 03 00:51 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://venturebeat.com/2010/09/23/hp-slate-tablet-with-windows-7-embarrasses-samsung-galaxy-tab-impresses-videos/ | Oct 03 00:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: HP Slate tablet with Windows 7 embarrasses, Samsung Galaxy Tab impresses (videos) | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 47.03 KB | Oct 03 00:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "We couldn?t have asked for a better-timed tablet comparison. A cunning YouTube user managed to record a quick overview of a prototype HP Slate tablet running Windows 7, and not surprisingly, the results are thoroughly disappointing." | Oct 03 00:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Meanwhile, Samsung unveiled the latest video demonstration of its Galaxy Tab Android tablet, and it doesn?t fail to impress." | Oct 03 00:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Windows 7 is so ill-suited to the device that you have to hit a physical button to pull up its virtual keyboard ? it?s not even smart enough to determine when a user needs to enter text. The Slate appears to boot up quickly and overall touch response seems zippy, but it?s clear that using Windows 7 with your fingers will be a usability nightmare. And let?s not even get into its physical Control-Alt-Delete button." | Oct 03 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11457905 | Oct 03 00:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched Cloverfield imdb.com/title/tt1060277/ ★★☆☆☆ unsure. direction style good (though after blair witch, cliché?), story.. rubbish | Oct 03 00:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] need to find a half star between ★ & ☆ in #unicode :) | Oct 03 00:58 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: gnufreex Want one? :D http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-t-shirts-now-available-in-canonical-store/ | Oct 03 01:02 |
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| sebsebseb | I agree with people saying they look like normal t shirts | Oct 03 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | I read about it this morning / last night | Oct 03 01:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Gem desktop in a !Linux desktop thanks to Hatari - An Atari ST emulator for Linux..Review coming on OpenBytes! http://twitpic.com/2u4ixp | Oct 03 01:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] while i’m thinking about #unicode, swear I saw /!\ the other day o.O people, it is U+26A0 ⚠ | Oct 03 01:03 | |
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| _Goblin | sebsebseb: nah, I think I'll pass. | Oct 03 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yeah I won't buy, but they look nice | Oct 03 01:04 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: I always think distro specific T-shirts are a little fanboyish.... | Oct 03 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | well yes | Oct 03 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | ,but these don't seem to say Ubuntu on them | Oct 03 01:06 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: no so to most people you will look like someone who has a love of Meerkats...and to those in the know you'll look like a fanboy....Like I say, Ive not bought into the idea! | Oct 03 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah what you just said I guess | Oct 03 01:07 |
| ThistleWeb | t-shirts are more like cars with subs, it's about "look at me" | Oct 03 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | subs? | Oct 03 01:07 |
| ThistleWeb | subwoofers | Oct 03 01:07 |
| _Goblin | like my "Smeg head" T-shirt? | Oct 03 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | only thing with version specific t shirts, is that they start to look old rather quickly | Oct 03 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | I mean theres that as well | Oct 03 01:07 |
| ThistleWeb | it is funny to hear bon jovi blasting from a car sub | Oct 03 01:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Appears to be Lying as It Approaches Its SCO-esque Death http://ur1.ca/1x9bz Things just don’t add up. | Oct 03 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Cell Phone Reunion http://ur1.ca/1x9dn #collegereunion | Oct 03 01:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I'm so tempted to add a rule that if a bot does not support Accept-Encoding it cannot crawl my site, full stop. | Oct 03 01:32 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: *LOL* | Oct 03 01:33 |
| schestowitz | BBC: "The giant software maker said Motorola phones that use Google's Android software are based on Microsoft technology. " | Oct 03 01:33 |
| schestowitz | MSBBC: they use Microsoft's CODE!!! | Oct 03 01:33 |
| schestowitz | "are based on Microsoft technology" | Oct 03 01:33 |
| schestowitz | The fiends!! :-) | Oct 03 01:33 |
| schestowitz | What it this, Plurk? | Oct 03 01:33 |
| schestowitz | "Oracle says Google infringed patents on its Java software while developing its Android operating system." | Oct 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Is this relevant at all to the news? | Oct 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | No | Oct 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | "Oracle has filed a lawsuit against Google, accusing the search engine giant of infringing patents on its technology." | Oct 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | More FUD | Oct 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Way to go, MSBBC | Oct 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | "Apple subsequently sued handset maker HTC." | Oct 03 01:35 |
| schestowitz | FUD FUD... FTW! :-) | Oct 03 01:35 |
| schestowitz | MSBBC summarises by telling you that Android is under legal threat from Apple, Oracle, Microsoft | Oct 03 01:35 |
| schestowitz | IOW, "don't use it, it' risky!" | Oct 03 01:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The MSBBC coverage of the Motorola lawsuit is utterly appalling, saying that "Google's Android software are based on Microsoft technology." | Oct 03 01:37 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah it seems like a bit of a silly article really | Oct 03 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ThistleWeb gnufreex Ubuntu promotion on the back of those t shirts, according to a comment | Oct 03 01:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: someone gave me the link, I got sucked into sharing some links from BBC in here again, but also in another channel :D | Oct 03 01:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The MSBBC closes the article (11 paragraphs), w/ the last 4 par purely dedicated to saying that Android is 'stealing' from MSFT, Apple, ORCL | Oct 03 01:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC - funded by taxpayers to pretend to be giving "objective" news while hiring almost only from Microsoft UK. #bbc #badjournalism !linux | Oct 03 01:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz On the same day, from the same site, "Android apps sharing your data" http://bbc.in/9Li6td more scare stories | Oct 03 01:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do these Uni fees include payments to the various IP rights holders for unproven infringements? http://bit.ly/9ft07D | Oct 03 01:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What a really great idea Add-Art - http://add-art.org/ | Oct 03 01:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/1xagk poisoned by Apotheker from "Microsoft of Europe" (SAP) | Oct 03 02:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb On the same day, from the same site [MSBBC], "Android apps sharing your data" http://bbc.in/9Li6td more scare stories | Oct 03 02:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC - a pathetic excuse for "news" ever since the company so clearly took on board many Microsoft UK managers (entryism not escapism) #bbc | Oct 03 02:10 | |
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| qu1j0t3 | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/10/02/2129244 | Oct 03 02:13 |
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| schestowitz | Someone told me about it | Oct 03 02:16 |
| schestowitz | Citizens need to sue the government | Oct 03 02:16 |
| schestowitz | They can | Oct 03 02:16 |
| Ender2070 | ill be switching to opensuse | Oct 03 02:16 |
| Ender2070 | i think it ages better now | Oct 03 02:18 |
| Ender2070 | fedora13 still doesnt have kde 4.5 | Oct 03 02:18 |
| Ender2070 | the blockers preventing its inclusion are months old | Oct 03 02:18 |
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| WireWulf | hello ladies and gentalmen | Oct 03 02:37 |
| gnufreex | Ender2070: Fedora 14 has KDE 4.5 and it is in beta now. | Oct 03 02:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] RT @Dzone: Ubuntu 10.10: Steady Progress for Maverick - http://dzone.com/Ap3C - @DZone Big Link by jennifercloer | Oct 03 02:40 | |
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| gnufreex | Helo ww | Oct 03 02:40 |
| Ender2070 | gnufreex - using F14 right now | Oct 03 02:42 |
| Ender2070 | doesnt mean F14 will see an update to 4.6 | Oct 03 02:43 |
| gnufreex | Is KDE 4.6 even released yet? | Oct 03 02:43 |
| gnufreex | If you really like bleading edge, try ArchLinux. You will have stuff few weeks from release. | Oct 03 02:44 |
| gnufreex | And if you enable testing AUR, you will have instantly. But maybe unstable. | Oct 03 02:44 |
| Ender2070 | problem with arch is that installation sucks | Oct 03 02:45 |
| Ender2070 | i want something that installs easy like fedora and has all the latest software like arch | Oct 03 02:46 |
| gnufreex | How it sucks? It worked well for me | Oct 03 02:46 |
| gnufreex | Try chakra | Oct 03 02:46 |
| gnufreex | http://chakra-project.org/ | Oct 03 02:46 |
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| WireWulf | had issue with chakra and my old p4 | Oct 03 02:47 |
| Ender2070 | i also want networkmanager and pulseaudio | Oct 03 02:48 |
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| Ender2070 | chakra isn't arch anymore | Oct 03 02:49 |
| gnufreex | If you use Arch, you literaly can use anything and set up for yourself. | Oct 03 02:49 |
| WireWulf | welcome xaphir | Oct 03 02:49 |
| xaphir | Hey WW | Oct 03 02:49 |
| Ender2070 | i dont want to set it up myself | Oct 03 02:49 |
| Ender2070 | i just want to install it in 20 minutes and get to work | Oct 03 02:50 |
| gnufreex | ... Fedora then... | Oct 03 02:50 |
| Ender2070 | either opensuse, or make a million fedora repos for all the software updates they refuse to package | Oct 03 02:50 |
| WireWulf | Ender2070 use lunar linux and arch will seem awesome | Oct 03 02:50 |
| Ender2070 | also with f14 ill end up recompiling applications to add in link time optimization | Oct 03 02:51 |
| Ender2070 | so much bullshit just to have the latest | Oct 03 02:51 |
| Ender2070 | not that im advocating windows, but at least there you can get the latest with little effort | Oct 03 02:52 |
| gnufreex | What is the point of having everything latest? | Oct 03 02:52 |
| Ender2070 | new features and bug fixes | Oct 03 02:52 |
| WireWulf | dunno | Oct 03 02:52 |
| gnufreex | Does old kernel stop working when new gets released? | Oct 03 02:52 |
| WireWulf | sometimes new versions = worse | Oct 03 02:52 |
| Ender2070 | KDE 4.4 to 4.5 is a huge change | Oct 03 02:53 |
| WireWulf | gnufreex nope does not | Oct 03 02:53 |
| xaphir | I stay one level behind to maintain production quality with fedora. | Oct 03 02:53 |
| WireWulf | Ender2070 but 4.5 had some wholes that 4.4 did not | Oct 03 02:53 |
| xaphir | the new stuff is too raw | Oct 03 02:53 |
| gnufreex | WireWulf, I know I am just joking | Oct 03 02:53 |
| Ender2070 | the new features outweigh the holes | Oct 03 02:53 |
| WireWulf | gnufreex I would hope so | Oct 03 02:53 |
| xaphir | gnufreex: it was funny | Oct 03 02:53 |
| Ender2070 | these are personal preferences and im sure people dont agree | Oct 03 02:54 |
| xaphir | F12 is going to be EOL soon but I'll still be running it for a year or more | Oct 03 02:54 |
| Ender2070 | its a good thing to have a ton of choices :) | Oct 03 02:54 |
| xaphir | some peeps have time to test bleeding edge stuff, I just don't | Oct 03 02:55 |
| Ender2070 | i dont have to have the latest *everything* but i'd like the latest kde, kernel, browser, xorg | Oct 03 02:55 |
| Ender2070 | i figure if upstream thinks its stable, its good enough for me | Oct 03 02:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Assistindo "Os Marceneiros", com Silvério Stalonge. Vamos ver se é bão mesmo. O melhor foi o preço... ;-D | Oct 03 02:55 | |
| WireWulf | i like stable | Oct 03 02:55 |
| gnufreex | Ender2070: I would recomend Sidux... but there was some renaming... I think it is called aptosid now. | Oct 03 02:55 |
| xaphir | WireWulf: lunar is stable isn't it? | Oct 03 02:56 |
| Ender2070 | i've checked out aptosid already and have deemed it inferior, in my opinion | Oct 03 02:56 |
| Ender2070 | but thats my opinion | Oct 03 02:56 |
| Ender2070 | other people will love it | Oct 03 02:56 |
| Ender2070 | most people love debian based stuff, i love rpm based stuff | Oct 03 02:56 |
| schestowitz | Holy crap | Oct 03 02:56 |
| WireWulf | xaphir anything yyou compile yourself is unstable but it is the stable kernel | Oct 03 02:56 |
| schestowitz | Not I'm trolled by the Chopra sheep/trolls | Oct 03 02:57 |
| schestowitz | *Now | Oct 03 02:57 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz sup dude? | Oct 03 02:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: blame me :D | Oct 03 02:57 |
| Ender2070 | One thing I could do is just have my own Fedora repo, with rebuilt stuff I want that they dont do | Oct 03 02:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070: maybe you really want Arch. | Oct 03 02:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is there an !AGPL alternative to something like #disqus ? | Oct 03 02:58 | |
| WireWulf | or you could go source based | Oct 03 02:58 |
| Ender2070 | then i could stay with fedora | Oct 03 02:58 |
| Ender2070 | I could go source based but then I lose the maintenance that goes with having a distro | Oct 03 02:59 |
| WireWulf | Ender2070 there has to be a sable cutting state of the art distro for a guy like you | Oct 03 02:59 |
| Ender2070 | its tough finding a satisfying distro | Oct 03 02:59 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Oct 03 02:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070: gentoo works for me. but if u don't like that, try Arch | Oct 03 03:00 |
| WireWulf | tried arch live? | Oct 03 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | i used to run gentoo | Oct 03 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps ill go back to it | Oct 03 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | actually yeah :D | Oct 03 03:00 |
| WireWulf | nah use lunar and compile your own kernel | Oct 03 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | lunar? | Oct 03 03:00 |
| Ender2070 | isnt that debian based | Oct 03 03:00 |
| WireWulf | http://www.lunar-linux.org/ | Oct 03 03:01 |
| WireWulf | nope | Oct 03 03:01 |
| Ender2070 | yeah i checked it out just now | Oct 03 03:01 |
| Ender2070 | its not anything based? | Oct 03 03:02 |
| WireWulf | nope | Oct 03 03:02 |
| Ender2070 | I was looking at calculate linux too | Oct 03 03:02 |
| WireWulf | college students tend to like it | Oct 03 03:02 |
| Ender2070 | its gentoo based and compatible | Oct 03 03:02 |
| Ender2070 | the only thing im concerned with for source based or arch style distros is networkmanager | Oct 03 03:03 |
| Ender2070 | i've never set it up manually before | Oct 03 03:03 |
| Ender2070 | hardware wise though, gentoo would fly :D | Oct 03 03:04 |
| Ender2070 | quad core 3.0ghz | Oct 03 03:04 |
| Ender2070 | 4gb ram, etc | Oct 03 03:04 |
| WireWulf | lunar would fly too :P | Oct 03 03:04 |
| WireWulf | as you compiles the kernel your self | Oct 03 03:04 |
| Ender2070 | what does lunar do for updates? | Oct 03 03:04 |
| WireWulf | doesnt asfar as i have seen | Oct 03 03:05 |
| Ender2070 | oh | Oct 03 03:05 |
| WireWulf | you have to use the package manager xcalled lunar | Oct 03 03:05 |
| Ender2070 | gentoo at least has portage | Oct 03 03:05 |
| WireWulf | to get recompiled packages | Oct 03 03:05 |
| WireWulf | but i havent used lunar the package manager yet | Oct 03 03:05 |
| Ender2070 | portage automatically updates your software by downloading and recompiling newer versions of software you have installed | Oct 03 03:06 |
| WireWulf | I didnt like compile gentoo in stages tho | Oct 03 03:06 |
| Ender2070 | 'emerge -uDav world' will do everything | Oct 03 03:06 |
| Ender2070 | im thinking ill just grab calculate linux | Oct 03 03:06 |
| Ender2070 | its gentoo based but easier to install | Oct 03 03:07 |
| WireWulf | may grab it meself | Oct 03 03:07 |
| WireWulf | but i do love my tinycore | Oct 03 03:07 |
| Ender2070 | ill install it and tweak it | Oct 03 03:07 |
| Ender2070 | sabayon is also gentoo based, heavily optimized for media and gaming, includes proprietary video drivers | Oct 03 03:08 |
| Ender2070 | easy install too | Oct 03 03:08 |
| WireWulf | sabayon doesnt like my p4 too much | Oct 03 03:08 |
| Ender2070 | for gentoo though ill have to unlock kde 4.5 | Oct 03 03:08 |
| Ender2070 | its not enabled for stable | Oct 03 03:08 |
| Ender2070 | they even have Calculate Directory Server | Oct 03 03:09 |
| Ender2070 | a gentoo based server already setup for active directory | Oct 03 03:09 |
| Ender2070 | allows you to replace NT boxes :D | Oct 03 03:10 |
| WireWulf | NT :P | Oct 03 03:14 |
| xaphir | sabayon with proprietary drivers. I like it already. | Oct 03 03:16 |
| WireWulf | sabayon is abit big tho | Oct 03 03:16 |
| xaphir | Is it? | Oct 03 03:16 |
| xaphir | Oh you are staying with a minimalist distro to work with the box you have | Oct 03 03:17 |
| WireWulf | yeah something like that | Oct 03 03:18 |
| xaphir | I stay away from gnome tho. | Oct 03 03:20 |
| WireWulf | I like small distros | Oct 03 03:20 |
| xaphir | me too actually | Oct 03 03:20 |
| WireWulf | i stay way from KDE and GNOME | Oct 03 03:21 |
| WireWulf | I have tcl installed on a 4GB usb drive | Oct 03 03:22 |
| WireWulf | still the standered flwm that it uses | Oct 03 03:22 |
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| WireWulf | wulfricfreawine odd name :P | Oct 03 03:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | sez WireWulf | Oct 03 03:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | :P | Oct 03 03:24 |
| wulfricfreawine | frea=free&wine=friend in old anglo saxon | Oct 03 03:24 |
| wulfricfreawine | you guys have awesome names like gnufreex | Oct 03 03:25 |
| wulfricfreawine | would kill for that lol | Oct 03 03:25 |
| *WireWulf is now known as Cuan | Oct 03 03:25 | |
| Cuan | i wouldnt try it | Oct 03 03:25 |
| Cuan | speaking of which Cuan = Irish frist name meaning young hound or hound | Oct 03 03:26 |
| wulfricfreawine | guess how many sites use mac os x server?? | Oct 03 03:26 |
| wulfricfreawine | abt irish i know | Oct 03 03:26 |
| Cuan | whos irish where? | Oct 03 03:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oh dear. A friend showed me some of the latest nonsense @DeepakChopra said, I replied, and now he unleashes 300k+ sheep (followers) on me | Oct 03 03:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sorry for the off topic stuff, I just need to confront frauds whose teachings cost the lives of many innocent people with issues | Oct 03 03:27 | |
| gnufreex | wulfricfreawine: Funny, I regeted choice of nickname... it has bad pronunciation | Oct 03 03:27 |
| Ender2070 | sabayon looks good actually | Oct 03 03:28 |
| Ender2070 | 5.4 | Oct 03 03:28 |
| gnufreex | But I am registered on many sites under this name. So it would be like nymshifting if I change it | Oct 03 03:28 |
| wulfricfreawine | @gnufreex you're welcome | Oct 03 03:29 |
| xaphir | gnufreex: that's right. it would be downright dishonest | Oct 03 03:29 |
| wulfricfreawine | netstats says www.apple.com hosted on apache/linux Weird eh? | Oct 03 03:30 |
| Cuan | yup | Oct 03 03:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Always in good company, huh ? Either M$'s fanboys or mobbysts and now new friends... ;-) | Oct 03 03:30 | |
| wulfricfreawine | maybe someone should mention it in their marketing material 'Good enuf for u , just not good enough for us, Love Steve Jobs' | Oct 03 03:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith yes, I blame @qu1j0t3 for daring me to challenge the quack with a link | Oct 03 03:32 | |
| gnufreex | wulfricfreawine: OSX is completely broken platform for servers. Not suprising Apple not using it. | Oct 03 03:33 |
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| wulfricfreawine | http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=www.apple.com | Oct 03 03:34 |
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| gnufreex | It looks like Apple is not hosting on its own. It says Akamai http://www.akamai.com/ | Oct 03 03:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Akamai: The Leader in Web Application Acceleration and Performance Management, Streaming Media Services and Content Delivery .::. Size~: 37.03 KB | Oct 03 03:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | gnufreex: right, they have used Akamai for nearly 10 yrs | Oct 03 03:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | actually longer | Oct 03 03:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | now that i think about it | Oct 03 03:36 |
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| gnufreex | They are not inovative. They use other people | Oct 03 03:42 |
| gnufreex | servers | Oct 03 03:42 |
| gnufreex | ... that would be Apple fanboy logic | Oct 03 03:42 |
| gnufreex | Had to lol | Oct 03 03:42 |
| Cuan | fanboi logic | Oct 03 03:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, it's a CDN. not everybody is in the CDN business. | Oct 03 03:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am sure they don't make their own air conditioners, either. | Oct 03 03:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | or carpets. or staplers... | Oct 03 03:45 |
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| Cuan | I made my own tesla coil | Oct 03 03:46 |
| Cuan | got shocke | Oct 03 03:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Amanhã será o grande circo da democracia, onde os palhaços somos nós. Lembrem-se políticos só querem melhorar a vida deles, não a sua | Oct 03 03:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Como o melhor não existe, votem com suas consciências nos menos piores. | Oct 03 03:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] !lca2011 presents our highly esteemed third keynote speaker; Geoff Huston! http://cli.gs/lca2011GeoffHuston - Chief Scientist at APNIC!!! | Oct 03 04:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Preview Page - http://lca2011.linux.org.au/media/news/58 .::. Size~: 6.6 KB | Oct 03 04:00 |
| dyfet | Here is an article that was missed which I just encountered and is so relevant today... | Oct 03 04:02 |
| dyfet | http://www.examiner.com/homeland-security-in-houston/obama-fbi-microsoft-collusion-warrantless-snooping-on-the-internet | Oct 03 04:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama-FBI-Microsoft collusion: warrantless snooping on the Internet. - Houston Homeland Security | Examiner.com .::. Size~: 94.76 KB | Oct 03 04:02 |
| dyfet | Microsoft's new slogan - who do you want to spy on today? ;) | Oct 03 04:03 |
| dyfet | My favorite quote from this story "The fact is both the administration and Microsoft are already betraying the public." | Oct 03 04:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | no shit | Oct 03 04:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Minnesota's deal with Microsoft to use BPOS prevents the state from using any open source, Slashdot asserts: http://bit.ly/9tFrbk | Oct 03 04:05 | |
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| qu1j0t3 | it's greatly helpful to govts to have a monoculture | Oct 03 04:05 |
| dyfet | It is also this claim I found interesting: "Back in 2008, Microsoft provided the U.S. government a technical “backdoor” to its browser..." | Oct 03 04:13 |
| xaphir | yeah before that there was a backdoor to the os itself. | Oct 03 04:14 |
| xaphir | the No Such Agency had the keys to that door | Oct 03 04:14 |
| xaphir | oh yeah, they still do | Oct 03 04:14 |
| dyfet | Well, I wonder if one has to go through such trouble to create a backdoor, the front one is so wide open ;) | Oct 03 04:15 |
| xaphir | It's not that hard to close it, it's just that they never wanted it closed. | Oct 03 04:15 |
| xaphir | that's why they weren't broken up like Ma Bell | Oct 03 04:15 |
| xaphir | the judge was under the thumb of the powers that be. So they got off with a hand slap | Oct 03 04:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] A Arte De Enganar O Eleitor! http://t.co/B0zTYSU | Oct 03 04:17 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | no, they contributed to the bush campaign, is why another judge got appointed to the case | Oct 03 04:17 |
| xaphir | the first judge was going to bust them up, so the gov stepped in and saved their azz | Oct 03 04:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | thanks to Bush | Oct 03 04:18 |
| xaphir | Gates is a democrat. | Oct 03 04:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | end result was the monopoly was valudated by the gov | Oct 03 04:19 |
| xaphir | well, I think the reasons went deeper than any campaign funds. I think the roots were in No Such Agency and the Company. | Oct 03 04:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and Gates, is many things | Oct 03 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Gates is pro-power | Oct 03 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Whatever the political side | Oct 03 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Whatever keeps him in power | Oct 03 04:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | most of them evil | Oct 03 04:21 |
| xaphir | Recon is more important than monopoly law, in their view | Oct 03 04:21 |
| dyfet | I am just curious how that story got missed :) | Oct 03 04:21 |
| schestowitz | He can fund both sides to ensure that no matter who wins the election, he too will win | Oct 03 04:21 |
| xaphir | I didn't miss it | Oct 03 04:21 |
| xaphir | dyfet: http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html | Oct 03 04:28 |
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| xaphir | somebody is keeping up. | Oct 03 04:28 |
| xaphir | oh it just reads the title of the url | Oct 03 04:28 |
| dyfet | The NSA story is much older and well known. This was very new.... | Oct 03 04:29 |
| xaphir | you mean the warrantless internet wiretapping? | Oct 03 04:31 |
| dyfet | yes | Oct 03 04:31 |
| xaphir | yeah, well that's why they need to be voted out in november | Oct 03 04:32 |
| dyfet | the problem is that there is nobody useful offered to vote "in" | Oct 03 04:32 |
| xaphir | there's plenty if you look. tea party candidates are all over the place and are winning pretty much | Oct 03 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they are all running on the party of Hoover | Oct 03 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | lets cut spending | Oct 03 04:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | except for the banks which will need to be bailed out as soon as the elections are over. Both parties will do it btw | Oct 03 04:34 |
| xaphir | when the career politicians get purged, then there will be some positive changes. | Oct 03 04:35 |
| xaphir | term limits would be nice | Oct 03 04:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but for the vanishing middle class there will not be a bailout | Oct 03 04:37 |
| xaphir | they employ saul alinski strategies in order to vanish the middle class | Oct 03 04:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | cutting spending during the 'great recessions' as its being called, will not put more people back to work. It will make things worse. | Oct 03 04:38 |
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| xaphir | I think cutting taxes will put people back to work. the bailouts that they just had are going to be used to elect socialist democrats with smear campaigns against new blood | Oct 03 04:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Evidence That Bill Gates’ Destructive Hijack of the Education System is About Control and Microsoft Indoctrination http://ur1.ca/1xcfi | Oct 03 04:40 | |
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| xaphir | Government spending has nothing to do with individual freedoms, it has to do with shoring up soft tyranny until it becomes hard tyranny. aka saul alinski type strategies | Oct 03 04:42 |
| dyfet | schestowitz: I am still curious what the issue was with gnu sites being ?blocked?, I kept loosing connectivity here so I never found out what that was about | Oct 03 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Some people replied to me, blaming cert | Oct 03 04:42 |
| schestowitz | I am working on an article citing you now | Oct 03 04:42 |
| schestowitz | I have several | Oct 03 04:42 |
| dyfet | Maybe I should blush ;) | Oct 03 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Lost time replying to like 50 'sheep' of Chopra, who unleashed his many followers onto me | Oct 03 04:43 |
| dyfet | cert...hmm...I recall a lot of gnu sites use self signed certificates | Oct 03 04:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | why would ppl be coming to techrights via ssl? | Oct 03 04:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.debka.com/article/9050/ | Oct 03 04:59 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "Tehran this week secretly appealed to a number of computer security experts in West and East Europe with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm spreading havoc through the computer networks and administrative software of its most important industrial complexes and military command centers. debkafile's intelligence and Iranian sources report Iran turned for outside help after local | Oct 03 04:59 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus." | Oct 03 04:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Just blogged that I'll be denting summaries of summaries of academic articles as @acamako. http://ur1.ca/1xc25 | Oct 03 05:00 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | "The impression debkafile sources gained Wednesday, Sept. 29 from talking to European computer experts approached for aid was that the Iranians are getting desperate. Not only have their own attempts to defeat the invading worm failed, but they made matters worse: The malworm became more aggressive and returned to the attack on parts of the systems damaged in the initial attack." | Oct 03 05:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "While Tehran has given out several conflicting figures on the systems and networks struck by the malworm - 30,000 to 45,000 industrial units - debkafile's sources cite security experts as putting the figure much higher, in the region of millions. If this is true, then this cyber weapon attack on Iran would be the greatest ever. " | Oct 03 05:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and of course, stuxnet only runs on Windows. | Oct 03 05:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | why does iran use windows in the first place? | Oct 03 05:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | because malware and windows go togeather | Oct 03 05:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I got to say, The Definitive Postfix Guide was a good investement just for nights like this one when I have to tweak its config. | Oct 03 05:05 | |
| qu1j0t3 | oh well there's a lesson in this for Iran, and Russia, and anyone else watching. | Oct 03 05:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Not to use windows is the lession, but I doubt they have learned it yet | Oct 03 05:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they will just have to learn the hard way | Oct 03 05:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: that's what I said, in different words. This *is* the hard way. | Oct 03 05:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | if we believe the paste above. | Oct 03 05:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe once they fix that, Obama could ask Ballmer to pull the kill switch in windows for Iran? | Oct 03 05:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | but i don't believe it literally. | Oct 03 05:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: no, Iran will change to avoid windows. the risk is crystal clear now. | Oct 03 05:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | and not just to them. | Oct 03 05:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | not only is there a remued NSA backdoor, there is also a kill switch | Oct 03 05:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | doesn't affect me. | Oct 03 05:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | and won't affect iran, soon :D | Oct 03 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | more than just WGA kill switch | Oct 03 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | or maybe that kill switch is just plain buggy code? | Oct 03 05:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | the ppl behind this are caring less and less about covering their tracks | Oct 03 05:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | they won't get a 2nd chance | Oct 03 05:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "<qu1j0t3> Chips_B_Malroy: no, Iran will change to avoid windows. the risk is crystal clear now." I doubt it, they are locked in with Bill's magic lockin using Pirated MS software. | Oct 03 05:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and whoever sold them industrial software running on windows, took them | Oct 03 05:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that is the hard part to change, not the OS | Oct 03 05:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but more likely Iran insisted on industrial software running on windows. They better hope it works on wine, lol | Oct 03 05:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and we better hope it doesn't | Oct 03 05:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: no, they're not locked in. | Oct 03 05:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and who is going write their new industrial software now, with all the santions on them? | Oct 03 05:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: Iranians are a bit savvier than their Russian helpers. Russians still love windows, but after this, maybe they'll start to think. | Oct 03 05:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: there are no sanctions on linux, etc. | Oct 03 05:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: Russia is doing a lot of this reactor and military work in Iran. Has done for decades. | Oct 03 05:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they will have to do it all by themselves | Oct 03 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | no. | Oct 03 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | they have access to many countries' expertise. | Oct 03 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | iran is very well connected in europe and eastern europe, and middle east. | Oct 03 05:17 |
| dyfet | They have GNU/Linux distributions built within Iran, like Pardux | Oct 03 05:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes, logically so. | Oct 03 05:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | this is not software that most people can write | Oct 03 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: they have access to a huge expertise pool. | Oct 03 05:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | the OS yes, its out there | Oct 03 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | sanctions are meaningless, in this area. | Oct 03 05:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but not the industrial control software | Oct 03 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | piece of cake. | Oct 03 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: remember Iran trades with all the competent nations | Oct 03 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chips_B_Malroy: Germany, Russia, etc. | Oct 03 05:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | is it Siemans the company that makes the hardware | Oct 03 05:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | Siemens is suffering considerable embarrassment at this point. They'll be making this good. | Oct 03 05:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so you need people that are familar with the siemans hardware as well as being able to write software | Oct 03 05:19 |
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| qu1j0t3 | of course | Oct 03 05:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | all these people are available... | Oct 03 05:19 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that narrows it down | Oct 03 05:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | not to mention Siemens themselves have considerable interest in rectifying this. | Oct 03 05:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a global embarrassment for them. | Oct 03 05:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its been going for awhile | Oct 03 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | you can bet a lot of people are finally figuring out what ppl have been warning about for decades | Oct 03 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | about monoculture | Oct 03 05:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | and using windows in completely inappropriate areas | Oct 03 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | comp.risks | Oct 03 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | has been talking about this for years | Oct 03 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | they've long predicted stuxnet | Oct 03 05:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its should not be so much an embarrasment for Siemens as for Microsoft Windows. | Oct 03 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | both | Oct 03 05:21 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | That is where the fault lies. | Oct 03 05:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | China will also be watching this. They must have suffered from this worm as well. | Oct 03 05:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its a worm, it will spread | Oct 03 05:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Windows is a malware magnet | Oct 03 05:22 |
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| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Oct 03 05:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | and anyone who specifies it in mission critical areas is incompetent | Oct 03 05:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | s6 is bad | Oct 03 05:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | doing now | Oct 03 05:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | latter gn e1 | Oct 03 05:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Federal Motors and Federal Microsoft http://ur1.ca/1xdma Microsoft shrewdly resorts to steps which make the government Microsoft dependent | Oct 03 06:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientists crack Ptolemy's naming scheme, finally understand one of the most accurate maps of old Germany ever http://ur1.ca/1xdmo !science | Oct 03 06:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes !Wordpress users welcome the Live Spaces refugee's.They can all thank Linux powered Wordpress for its generosity !linux | Oct 03 06:17 | |
| schestowitz | cubevector: the IP that hammered on you is from sbcglobal.net | Oct 03 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] running SqueezeBox server in Beijing and Apeldoorn... now trying SqueezePlay on my #Maemo devices and #MeeGo | Oct 03 06:33 | |
| tessier | http://www.securelist.com/en/analysis/204792107/ZeuS_on_the_Hunt | Oct 03 06:35 |
| tessier | I had no idea zeus was so sneaky | Oct 03 06:35 |
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| tessier | It steals security certs like driving signing private certs etc. | Oct 03 06:35 |
| tessier | And apparently send them to the stuxnet authors who use them to get drivers loaded without warnings. | Oct 03 06:35 |
| tessier | Every time you click the left mouse button zeus takes a screenshot and sends it to someone? Holy cow. | Oct 03 06:35 |
| tessier | And over 3.6M computers in the US were infected with Zeus in 2009. Use Linux or buy a Mac. | Oct 03 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: oh your on about a virus? | Oct 03 06:36 |
| tessier | Yes | Oct 03 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: yes I think I read something about that one or something breif | Oct 03 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | and yep some really nasty malware for Windows | Oct 03 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yet most computer users use it | Oct 03 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | since all the ignorance | Oct 03 06:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #BrokenSword Director's Cut runs fine on #Wine :-)... do hope a #ScummVM option will become available http://is.gd/fHQpB | Oct 03 06:37 | |
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| sebsebseb | tessier: Mac OS X would be malware target number two though | Oct 03 06:37 |
| tessier | It is a much harder target. | Oct 03 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | Why since it is Unix like? | Oct 03 06:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | mainly. | Oct 03 06:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | also, microsoft has few incentives to secure windows. | Oct 03 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: well they don't really need to work on making it really secure, because legally they don't have to, and loads of people are going to be buying it anyway | Oct 03 06:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | right. | Oct 03 06:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | they're disconnected from the market. | Oct 03 06:39 |
| tessier | Thus, my advice... | Oct 03 06:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | and 'windows rot' makes throwing the pc out and buying a new one, a profitable outcome | Oct 03 06:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | the status quo works nicely for them. based on ignorance and the tyranny of low expectations. | Oct 03 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | and even those that pirate Windows, are still helping with its market share, even though some or many of them may not think so | Oct 03 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | well assuming they use it enough anyway | Oct 03 06:40 |
| schestowitz | [00:40] <qu1j0t3> "GODS WITH CHEQUEBOOKS" (I shit you not) http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2010/sep/17/melinda-gates-microsoft-foundation-charity > Melinda is a GOD.................................................. to the Guardian anyway, cause she bribed them with her checkbook | Oct 03 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's a lazy default | Oct 03 06:41 |
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| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: the Windows rot is a bad thing for the environemnt | Oct 03 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: yes, it certainly us. | Oct 03 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: is* | Oct 03 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh your still around? | Oct 03 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: Microsoft is a HUGE contributor to waste | Oct 03 06:41 |
| schestowitz | Catching up w/ 1am | Oct 03 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | whats w/ ? | Oct 03 06:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | with* | Oct 03 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Have you slept? | Oct 03 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: indeed | Oct 03 06:42 |
| schestowitz | <qu1j0t3> sebsebseb: Microsoft is a HUGE contributor to waste | Oct 03 06:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yeah i didn't see that article until now. I'm still stunned. | Oct 03 06:42 |
| schestowitz | Gates is now an invetor in Waaste management | Oct 03 06:42 |
| schestowitz | (The company) | Oct 03 06:42 |
| schestowitz | WIth fraud and all | Oct 03 06:42 |
| schestowitz | They love conglemerates | Oct 03 06:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yet another borrowing from the Mafia | Oct 03 06:42 |
| schestowitz | This one has ~50k employees | Oct 03 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | tessier: yeah even Ubuntu, people are way better off using that than Windows, and yes other distros loads of them :) | Oct 03 06:43 |
| schestowitz | [00:44] <_Goblin> *analists | Oct 03 06:45 |
| schestowitz | Anal lists | Oct 03 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hes not here anymore | Oct 03 06:45 |
| schestowitz | When Microsoft needs support and some arse kissing for its products it picks some anal lists | Oct 03 06:45 |
| schestowitz | [00:51] <sebsebseb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11457611 | Oct 03 06:47 |
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| schestowitz | "Hackers in Eastern Europe would use spam email to infect computers of small businesses and individuals in the US with a virus known as Zeus, the FBI said in a statement. " | Oct 03 06:47 |
| schestowitz | MSBBC forgets to say "WINDOWS virus" | Oct 03 06:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | as usual | Oct 03 06:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | even /. forgets | Oct 03 06:47 |
| schestowitz | If it only affected Solaris they would say so | Oct 03 06:47 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft gets the free pass, like it's a religion not to be offender | Oct 03 06:47 |
| schestowitz | *ded | Oct 03 06:47 |
| schestowitz | "I hold the right to be offender because [x]" | Oct 03 06:48 |
| schestowitz | *ded | Oct 03 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: as useual they don't say crackers as well | Oct 03 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | or blackhats even | Oct 03 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | or even cyber criminals to get rid of the wrong useage of hackers | Oct 03 06:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | [01:45:19] <schestowitz> MSBBC forgets to say "WINDOWS virus" | Oct 03 06:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | because thats redundant | Oct 03 06:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | only windows gets viruses | Oct 03 06:52 |
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| schestowitz | [01:45] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] do these Uni fees include payments to the various IP rights holders for unproven infringements? http://bit.ly/9ft07D | Oct 03 06:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: University students could face more than £10,000 a year in fees | Education | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 84.78 KB | Oct 03 06:56 |
| schestowitz | Good thing I got mine while it was still a lot cheaper | Oct 03 06:56 |
| schestowitz | The US has insane tuition fees | Oct 03 06:56 |
| schestowitz | [03:27] <gnufreex> wulfricfreawine: Funny, I regeted choice of nickname... it has bad pronunciation | Oct 03 07:02 |
| schestowitz | new freaks? | Oct 03 07:02 |
| schestowitz | [04:59] <Chips_B_Malroy> computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus." | Oct 03 07:06 |
| schestowitz | computer experts or WINDOWS 'experts'? | Oct 03 07:06 |
| schestowitz | [05:04] <qu1j0t3> why does iran use windows in the first place? | Oct 03 07:06 |
| schestowitz | Tyrannies think alike? | Oct 03 07:06 |
| schestowitz | [05:17] <dyfet> They have GNU/Linux distributions built within Iran, like Pardux | Oct 03 07:07 |
| schestowitz | There are economic sanctions to prevent them from getting computer chips | Oct 03 07:07 |
| schestowitz | Which is silly cause they can 'smuggle' CPUs through Russia or closer neighbours | Oct 03 07:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: as I mentioned earlier, Russian tech/engineering/mil exchange with Iran is extensive, and has been happening for decades | Oct 03 07:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: besides, 'sanctions' against the Soviet in tech area did not work either. | Oct 03 07:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: during the Cold War, you could get whatever you wanted there, just the price went up. | Oct 03 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and they famously cloned the major architectures anyway | Oct 03 07:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'sanctions' are great at keeping basic stuff like medical out, but hopeless at keeping tech and engineering out. | Oct 03 07:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | and everybody knows it | Oct 03 07:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's just posturing to lay the usual feeble groundwork for military action | Oct 03 07:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Simple and yet very useful This is why !Linux is better then !Mac and a good link to show a user http://tinyurl.com/24qg7es in doubt !Fedora | Oct 03 07:23 | |
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| schestowitz | " Does the !FSF or !SFLC have a position on the use of a Computer Science background to qualify for the Patent Bar? " | Oct 03 07:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://spot.livejournal.com/315875.html | Oct 03 07:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Appears to be Lying as It Approaches Its SCO-esque Death http://tinyurl.com/32l9hve !microsoft !windows !xp !mvp !mvpbuzz | Oct 03 07:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] George: "I'm an American. I'm innocent", Officer: "Can't make up your mind, uh!" - #BrokenSword !q | Oct 03 07:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @appelond Simple and yet very useful This is why !Linux is better then !Mac and a good link to show a user http://tinyurl.com/24qg7es | Oct 03 07:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @harishpillay Thanks ;-) | Oct 03 07:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Donald Duck Discovers #GlennBeck in "Right Wing Radio Duck" http://ur1.ca/1xeyb | Oct 03 08:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Classroom: Announcing the First #locoteams Day Event http://goo.gl/mM1q | Oct 03 08:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org Server 1.9.1 Is Approaching; RC1 Released: Under the release management of Apple's Jeremy Huddleston, the fi... http://bit.ly/cbTNHh | Oct 03 08:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Had a good time at a party with family friends, now it's time turn in for the night. | Oct 03 08:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Dzone: Ubuntu 10.10: Steady Progress for Maverick - http://dzone.com/Ap3C | Oct 03 08:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz More Evidence That Bill Gates’ Destructive Hijack of the Education System is About Control and Microsoft Indoctrination ... | Oct 03 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz MSBBC - a pathetic excuse for "news" ever since the company so clearly took on board many Microsoft UK managers (entryis ... | Oct 03 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz RT @thistleweb On the same day, from the same site [MSBBC], "Android apps sharing your data" http://bbc.in/9Li6td more ... | Oct 03 09:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #HP Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/1xagk poisoned by Apotheker from "Microsoft of E ... | Oct 03 09:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crunch Time at AOL - http://bit.ly/ca7iFj Google "will buy a big journalistic organization"; certainly hope not #google #content | Oct 03 09:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Kew Gardens, Autumn - http://bit.ly/9Pht14 ah, Lunnon #pix #london #autumn | Oct 03 09:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: The Second Demolition: Ayodhya Judgement September 30, 2010: http://t.co/tvio16C | Oct 03 09:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Mobile SMS Spammers are in full swing after revoking the ban . Received 6+ spam messages in last 30 minutes #AyodhyaVerdict #Spam | Oct 03 09:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sintel is out - http://bit.ly/asty0P "short film to further improve and validate the free/open source 3D creation suite #Blender" #cc | Oct 03 09:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Voelt zich geprikkeld om iets te zeggen over gebruik van .doc documenten bij aanhalen van open data maar beslist het voor zich te houden | Oct 03 09:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] found an excellent Podiobook "A different point of view" - Stormtroopers reports http://bit.ly/duRih4 #StarWars | Oct 03 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dev in need of general help with FF add on which replaces ads with art. Specifically noscript conflict. http://is.gd/fI6Rp !firefox !fs | Oct 03 10:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Study: select Android apps sharing data without user notification. http://ur1.ca/1vbx6 !replicant !fsf | Oct 03 10:33 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/why-i-dumped-my-droid/2487 Here comes the MS FUD. | Oct 03 10:41 |
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| oiaohm | Strange that this appears just after Windows moblie 7 get annonced and not before. | Oct 03 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @graziano: It's Microsoft FUD, watch out MSBBC | Oct 03 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @graziano: http://is.gd/fI9CB | Oct 03 10:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Context was movement of microsofties to other companies. Represented as almost always -ve not mixed and complicated issue. imho | Oct 03 10:58 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Oct 03 10:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Check the disclosure "Windows, Microsoft, Windows" of course he doesn't get linux, his income relies on not getting it http://zd.net/aYMFKL | Oct 03 11:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] It is odd that a blog called "Microsoft Report" is a poison pen piece to diss a competitor to Microsoft, oh and isn't Win 7 phone out soon? | Oct 03 11:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, "competitor" is VERY generous, MS are dead in the mobile phone space without even a blip on the heart monitor | Oct 03 11:03 | |
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| oiaohm | http://planet.gnu.org/gnutelephony/?p=10 Nice artical | Oct 03 11:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] hmm a "light" Peppermint Ice uses 78mb just for the LXPanel to idle in live mode WTF? My entire Debian XFCE install inc panel idles at 85mb | Oct 03 11:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] On my way to chennai! After giving 'xox' to mama and papa. | Oct 03 11:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @danishka: if #twitter ~ #Microsoft then => !identica ~ !Linux (in terms on security) | Oct 03 11:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] wishes isohunt.com supported encrypted connection. | Oct 03 12:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Do you use !tpb? Install !EFF's #HTTPSEverywhere http://ur1.ca/1xgqz & add tpb ruleset http://ur1.ca/1xgr0 http://ur1.ca/08g2i | Oct 03 12:17 | |
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| schestowitz | "RT @razvansandu: RT @schestowitz: RT @thistleweb "Android apps sharing your data" http://bbc.in/9Li6td - one more reason #symbian is my fav." http://twitter.com/#!/silviuvulcan/status/26257227754 | Oct 03 12:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu thanks, got it | Oct 03 12:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Checking for updates often will just add to the insomnia, specially if you have no other contact with anyone http://bbc.in/dbozTJ | Oct 03 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OOXML Patent Lock-up Teaches #Microsoft and Others That Software Patents Hurt http://ur1.ca/1xh4o #odf #swpats #uspto | Oct 03 13:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There are only 2 computer services I am willing to do for free for anyone; 1 is installing Linux, the other is deleting Facebook accounts | Oct 03 13:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Details Needed About New #RedHat - #Acacia Patent Settlement http://ur1.ca/1xh90 #swpats #SoftwareTreeLLC #Microsoft / cc @jwildeboer | Oct 03 13:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: I certainly agree :), but promoting FOSS is more desirable in non-FOSS mediums. You must be among THEM... | Oct 03 13:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gnumaniac: I can't believe how good this program is, it's now on my daily pipeline, works on !linux btw. http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ | Oct 03 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] P2P Backed Film Platform to Reward Influencers - http://bit.ly/bG7Fns *very* interesting development: the future? #influence #economics | Oct 03 13:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A little bit of federated Open Notebook Science - http://bit.ly/d9lSUC beautiful demonstration of the power of #openness #science | Oct 03 14:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My So-called Virtual Life: M$ Rumor lolz - http://gomiso.blogspot.com/2010/10/m-rumor-lolz.html | Oct 03 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Kiwi Linux 10.08, a distro that targets #Romania and #Hungary http://is.gd/fIqsx #gnu #linux #kiwi #freesoftware | Oct 03 14:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching One Piece 469 !anime | Oct 03 14:33 | |
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| MadRobot | Salam all. | Oct 03 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] "We'll circle around the earth to increase our boost…" Servo: "& we'll collect mushrooms & gold coins to win extra men later." #MST3K S02E01 | Oct 03 14:35 | |
| MadRobot | anybody there? | Oct 03 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista Phone 7 [sic] is Dead on Arrival, So #Microsoft Resorts to Chill Attack on !Linux / #Android http://ur1.ca/1xjc9 #swpats #FUD #mobile | Oct 03 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Hubble's Lagoon http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap101002.html | Oct 03 14:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Top Legal Experts Explore Reforms to Copyright Law - http://bit.ly/9p2zps sadly, looks defensive and rather timid #copyright | Oct 03 14:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BBC Cannot Call out #Windows http://ur1.ca/1xjy0 The BBC still seems unable to call viruses what they really are | Oct 03 14:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GCC 4.4.5 Brings Bug-Fixes: While GCC 4.5 has been around since this past April, if you are still living with GCC ... http://bit.ly/9C7KOA | Oct 03 14:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @gregkh {sigh} Microsoft's FAT filename patents used as a bludgeon again. | Oct 03 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ... | Oct 03 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Finding info on #IE's Accept-Encoding is messed up because too many people mistype SDHC into SDCH… damn! | Oct 03 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Future plans for #Microsoft #Romania http://is.gd/fIuoM | Oct 03 15:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Watch and contribute to LibreOffice in real time: http://ur1.ca/1xl08 | Oct 03 15:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz How do we trust Android programmes without becoming authoritarian. I have no trust in the ones I have installed. | Oct 03 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #BBC Cannot Call out #Windows http://ur1.ca/1xjy0 The BBC still seems unable to call viruses what they really are | Oct 03 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Top Legal Experts Explore Reforms to Copyright Law - http://bit.ly/9p2zps sadly, looks defensive and rather timid #copyright | Oct 03 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some of the Usonian golfers look like West Ham or Villa supporters. #Rydercup | Oct 03 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] So who is waching the Commonwealth Games? I sure can't as I don't think it get televised in the US | Oct 03 15:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera but not the platform is the problem. It can guard against security issues (e.g. sandbox), but hard to prevent malicious phone home | Oct 03 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents - http://is.gd/fBCnW | Oct 03 15:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @nmudgal First tweet by twitterfeed. second with # hashtag added. http://bit.ly/9YOdHq | Oct 03 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RD @eightyeight: one thing i wish !identica would adopt is opening links in new pages. seriously frustrating. | Oct 03 15:42 | |
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| data_provider | oiaohm gave you link to wrong Acacia suit againt redhat. The one you want is: http://dockets.justia.com/docket/texas/txedce/6:2009cv00097/114766/ | Oct 03 15:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: This is my point. I am only comfortable if the source is available so that all those with the knowledge can keep them honest | Oct 03 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: In some ways Android programmes are as bad as randomly downloaded MS programmes. | Oct 03 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn plenty will take free (cost) and not pay, but plenty will pay even if they dont have to, to reward the effort, just like music | Oct 03 15:47 | |
| amd-linux | From the rumour mill: Bild.de, Germany's largest tabloid, is speculating that Micro-Soft will swallow Nokia: | Oct 03 15:48 |
| amd-linux | http://www.bild.de/BILD/politik/wirtschaft/2010/10/02/nokia-der-niedergang/des-handy-giganten-droht-uebernahme-durch-microsoft.html | Oct 03 15:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn it has to be a more profitable enterprise than fighting a losing battle suing your fans and making yourself obscure | Oct 03 15:48 | |
| amd-linux | Headline is: Nokia: the fall of the Mobile giant - now a takeover by Microsoft is looming | Oct 03 15:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn the bottom line is that people are gonna share it anyway, & break the DRM if needed, go with it, use it to promote & spread the word | Oct 03 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn why the distinction between software and fiction - related to your argument at http://ur1.ca/1xm6y ? | Oct 03 15:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think it's consistent: rules for entertainment don't matter, rules for art do,but such can reasonably be different from software | Oct 03 15:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think software is art. | Oct 03 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think there are artistic aspects to software & other science, but I think it falls more on the "utility" end of spectrum mostly. | Oct 03 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Took Evie out last night to do some stargazing. Saw a spectacular Jupiter and four of its moons, big hit with her! | Oct 03 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I have, like many a !Perl hacker, written bad poetry that parses in perl4 & thought it was cool at the time. But such is rare. | Oct 03 16:00 | |
| qu1j0t3 | talk about missing the point... or is that a deliberate joke? | Oct 03 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fontana software, like music, fiction etc is replicable in an instant after it's created, art is a one off creation | Oct 03 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The USA telly station whose copyright I am infringing has limited hole coverage, does golf charge to broadcast by the hole? | Oct 03 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They cover the same few holes as the players come through and I do not know what the rest look like. | Oct 03 16:10 | |
| ThistleWeb | lol, I wondered where lefty spouted his bullshit, I just found him on identica | Oct 03 16:11 |
| ThistleWeb | it does make you wonder why his employer would want indexed with someone like that | Oct 03 16:12 |
| ThistleWeb | he does seem to have a primary school level crush on you though, unable to tell you he fancies you he just pulls your pigtails ate every chance in the hopes thatyou'll know what he means | Oct 03 16:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The punters are just starting to stake their places at the 18th. | Oct 03 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Sonic Creator Yuji Naka Dreaming of Dreamcast 2 http://ur1.ca/1xn4u | Oct 03 16:17 | |
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| _Goblin | ThistleWeb: He sometimes comments on my blog....to be fair, he's always been polite. | Oct 03 16:17 |
| ThistleWeb | I only saw the @lefty name in a discussion between fab and bradly khun and thought "I wonder" and it was | Oct 03 16:18 |
| _Goblin | oh and sorry.....Hello everyone | Oct 03 16:18 |
| ThistleWeb | he does seem to have a rather unheathy obsession with roy, always trying to strike up an argument, with ender too | Oct 03 16:18 |
| ThistleWeb | it's one thing to take issue with something someone says, but he does seem to have a habit of looking for any excuse to snipe back and try to provoke | Oct 03 16:19 |
| ThistleWeb | it's like either an obsession or his job | Oct 03 16:21 |
| ThistleWeb | or both | Oct 03 16:21 |
| ThistleWeb | "I oppose everything you say even before you speak and I know what it is" | Oct 03 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chances are it will be all square at the end of play or Europe will be one shot up. Chaos theory may interfere with my Delphism. | Oct 03 16:22 | |
| ThistleWeb | I even agree with MS on some points.....well, when they say "don't use Apple stuff" | Oct 03 16:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @thistleweb I assume you must mean "art" in a very narrow sense (non-digital visual art?). | Oct 03 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera yes, just as bad. #Google chose to avoid a lot of GPL (and GPLv3) to give wiggling space and make room to DRM & many other nasties | Oct 03 16:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think software is both utilitarian and artistic. Not sure why non-utilitarian == okay for author to monopolize commercialization | Oct 03 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz I am glad I am worried about the right things :) | Oct 03 16:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,some do think there's no difference. I just don't understand commercial models around art enough to say for sure it *must* be !Free | Oct 03 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ... | Oct 03 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I don't understand commercial models around software :-) | Oct 03 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ... | Oct 03 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fontana that's a point, art is about interpretation, it's different for everyone who experiences it, a program doesn't do that | Oct 03 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman foresaw such issues. Even before apps could "phone home" he told us all that true control of code is essential. | Oct 03 16:35 |
| schestowitz | In #Romania , “Marketing and !GNU !Linux #FUD is Everything for #Microsoft ”; Latest Propaganda Comes From Călin Tatomir http://ur1.ca/1xmc1 | Oct 03 16:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Most probably, I have the hardest week of my life behind me... I hope the next week will be lighter. | Oct 03 16:38 | |
| schestowitz | "Windows insecurity is an industry. Lots of people selling add-ons around it." http://twitter.com/#!/fcassia/status/26267850750 | Oct 03 16:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @razvansandu: ♺ @eLiberatica: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents - http://is.gd/fBCnW http://bit.ly/9fuFHh | Oct 03 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] another fight against rights holders, this time the Premier League over decoder cards in pubs http://bbc.in/doJ3p9 Sky's extortionate rates | Oct 03 16:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Blender foundation releases open source movie Sintel - created using 3D rendering !foss software: http://ur1.ca/1xonr | Oct 03 17:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SUSE is Getting More Restricted and Virtualisation-centered Ahead of Expected Sale to VMB_ware http://ur1.ca/1xp34 #vnware #novell !linux | Oct 03 17:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] identi.ca in the 11 months since I registered, users have increased by 2.5x | Oct 03 17:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnumaniac: I can't believe how good this program is, it's now on my daily pipeline, works on !linux btw. http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ | Oct 03 17:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera My So-called Virtual Life: M$ Rumor lolz - http://gomiso.blogspot.com/2010/10/m-rumor-lolz.html | Oct 03 17:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mohanpram Hubble's Lagoon http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap101002.html | Oct 03 17:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ... | Oct 03 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @schestowitz: ♺ @gnumaniac: I can't believe how good this program is… http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ #mypaint #python | Oct 03 17:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Disgruntled with Fedora - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=937 | Oct 03 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia: the fall of the Mobile giant - now a takeover by Microsoft is looming [de] http://ur1.ca/1xpzs #entryism | Oct 03 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #gwibber Not sure what today's !gwibber update fixes. Facebook and Buzz still not working Facebook not adding account and Buzz not fetching. | Oct 03 17:37 | |
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| schestowitz | Makes little sense | Oct 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Nokia gets nothing of use from Microsoft | Oct 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has no ash | Oct 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has no cash... not to buy a company its own size | Oct 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Just silly speculation IMHO | Oct 03 17:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [CORRECTED] Nokia: the fall of the Mobile giant - now a takeover by Microsoft is looming [de] http://ur1.ca/1xq4j #entryism | Oct 03 17:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Eight full-HD 1080p screens each supported by a dedicated Ubuntu server running Google Earth = Liquid Galaxy http://bit.ly/cfoe6F | Oct 03 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ... | Oct 03 17:43 | |
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| schestowitz | <ThistleWeb> he does seem to have a primary school level crush on you though, unable to tell you he fancies you he just pulls your pigtails ate every chance in the hopes thatyou'll know what he means | Oct 03 17:45 |
| schestowitz | I don't think that's it. THe mobbyists generally are concerned about techrights. They promote proprietary software. | Oct 03 17:45 |
| schestowitz | If the mobbyists go as far as stalking IRC, then it means we do something OK and they are willing to waste hours per week trying to heckle people/activists, not massive corporations. | Oct 03 17:46 |
| schestowitz | [16:18] <_Goblin> oh and sorry.....Hello everyone | Oct 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: the story many are missing is that the Motorola suit is bad for Microsoft too because it shows that Microsoft gave up on competing | Oct 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | it hasn't even brought forth a product yet and it's already just TROLLING Android, just like ACCESS did. | Oct 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | LiMo is clinically dead | Oct 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | And maybe that's why some of the mobbyists have been 'working overtime' (unemployed perhaps) | Oct 03 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @toros but you posted some excellent articles this past week. I read all of them | Oct 03 17:52 | |
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| schestowitz | Hey, MadRobot | Oct 03 17:52 |
| MadRobot | hi | Oct 03 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb responding to what you said earlier, if Freedom advocates are trolled by the proprietarists, it means they do something right | Oct 03 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @aseigo - im jumping ship from Fedora, any recommendations? I'd like the best KDE distro, and I suspect you're using it :) | Oct 03 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wow 9.5 to 6.5 to the EU that went improbably well. Let us hope it is an exciting and entertaining finish to the match, | Oct 03 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 5 Things !Linux Does Better Than Mac OS X - PCWorld Business Center http://ping.fm/mrhMi | Oct 03 18:00 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: sorry, wasn't ignoring, Im over in #steelstorm talking to the devs | Oct 03 18:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] wysunięty zwiad bojem. ryś będzie na Microsoft Technology Summit 2010 (wtorek-środa). :) | Oct 03 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @schestowitz +1 #hatersgonahate | Oct 03 18:10 | |
| dyfet | the trolls are clearly out this weekend... | Oct 03 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @schestowitz Thank you! I don't use bookmarks - when I see something interesting I immediately share it on identica. :) | Oct 03 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: UK Law Firm Gallant Macmillan Taken Offline In Revenge Attacks http://tinyurl.com/37ps8y9 !piracy !tpb !ddos !bittorrent | Oct 03 18:20 | |
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| schestowitz | dyfet: which ones? | Oct 03 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » Women Proved “Securest” in the Defcon Social Engineering Game - Blogger News Network http://ping.fm/hXuVE | Oct 03 18:23 | |
| dyfet | Not sure, I do not normally have trolls bother my posts... | Oct 03 18:24 |
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| dyfet | But they seem like the kind that regularly gang up elsewhere | Oct 03 18:24 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see... | Oct 03 18:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Multilingual Web Workshop Program Published http://ow.ly/19gOc3 | Oct 03 18:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The teacher's talking a story of an early civil war in the Islamic history caused by false messages. I was like "if only they had !gpg " :-) | Oct 03 18:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New: A collection of code snippets for the purpose of understanding the C programming language: http://www.joabj.com/Programs/C/C.html | Oct 03 18:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Finally my homepage is ready, moved to permanent site - http://narendrasisodiya.com/ still so much to ... http://bit.ly/cQFGWg | Oct 03 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Perl program that creates an HTML page listing the contents of a directory: http://www.joabj.com/Programs.html#CreateDirectoryListing | Oct 03 18:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak The teacher's talking a story of an [...] caused by false messages. I was like "if only they had !gpg " :-) >Obama fights it now | Oct 03 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak false messages how an invasion into #Iraq was sold to the public. British false intelligence about African uranium and all.... | Oct 03 18:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Perl program I wrote listing all the MP3s you've played & when they were last played, using the iTunes XML library: http://bit.ly/bNVMDS | Oct 03 18:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Do you like action #rpg #games ? Contribute to OSARE: http://clintbellanger.net/rpg/ !fsf !gnu !lp !lpitalia A free software Diablo soon? | Oct 03 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tory minister refers to previous government as "previous regime". An attempt at disparagement . "regime" should be more widely adopted | Oct 03 18:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It negates the posturing for acting in a given way. | Oct 03 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera this may also imply he views his own as a "Regime" | Oct 03 19:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] For example.. The USA regime dropped nuclear bombs on 1000's of civilians. Or we could go for the leader of the free world ended war early. | Oct 03 19:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] s/talking/telling/ | Oct 03 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Yes, you are absolutely right the cause of events and their later interpretation are normally missed by most including me. | Oct 03 19:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ITworld review: !Ubuntu 10.10 scores close to a ten http://ur1.ca/1waj1 | Oct 03 19:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dr Who David Tennant, enjoyed his reign on the whole but I really did not like his frequent shouting, don't believe me watch a few of them | Oct 03 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel http://ur1.ca/1xtuv looks like a good movie, I should check it out sometime | Oct 03 19:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Okay not frequent :) but it keeps happening. | Oct 03 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Alright time to make some #chai! | Oct 03 19:25 | |
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| *Wulf|away is now known as WireWulf | Oct 03 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Gallant Macmillan – site is down but 4chan not to blame? Who’s next? http://tinyurl.com/36c7rj7 !tpb !piracy !bittorrent | Oct 03 19:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Capitalism as we know it is built on the once in a species bubble boom of fossil fuels, anyone know what the bust will look like? !green | Oct 03 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes: Yes you had your eye on the discussion, my apologies for just having a bash on your blog. | Oct 03 19:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Mobile Broadband on Linux - This wiki need your love - plz add your device or mail me - http://www.lug-... http://bit.ly/dsyTIx | Oct 03 19:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: finally got my #libreoffice install sorted out. havent gotten a chance to really play with it [tests this week :(] | Oct 03 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Where does a meritocracy fit in with passing on wealth to kids and nepotism? Is the individual more important or the family or society? | Oct 03 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is biology more important than any politics? | Oct 03 19:55 | |
| qu1j0t3 | lulz | Oct 03 19:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | wealth is more important than justice | Oct 03 19:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | and the untrammelled ability to kill anyone who disagrees with you is PRICELESS! rock on USA | Oct 03 19:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 03 19:58 |
| MinceR | like they say, "America, FUCK YEAH!" | Oct 03 19:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | "We're going the wrong way!" "Cool! HIT THE GAS!" | Oct 03 19:58 |
| hazzy | LOL! I just read the post about Microsoft claiming to have bought 15 companies | Oct 03 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @zoobab EFF letter to the US Supreme Court about software patents and binaries as prior art: http://ur1.ca/1xvcg | Oct 03 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Q: How do you know Microsoft is the next SCO? A: @horaciog gets promoted, people who actually _DO_ technology quit the company | Oct 03 20:07 | |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they were teh LAST SCO, too. | Oct 03 20:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] We need to fix all these positions? Guys, we got much to do to fix the cultural damage by these companies! http://ur1.ca/1xvgi !gnu | Oct 03 20:09 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/26275094604 | Oct 03 20:10 |
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| schestowitz | Mobbyists unit | Oct 03 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Mobbyists unite | Oct 03 20:10 |
| schestowitz | One days DUMP DROID | Oct 03 20:10 |
| schestowitz | The other says Google should pay Microsoft for Android and pretends to be a FOSS guy | Oct 03 20:10 |
| WireWulf | dump my brain cells | Oct 03 20:10 |
| WireWulf | kill M$ | Oct 03 20:11 |
| WireWulf | and burn apple | Oct 03 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When did you stop beating your patent drum, @horaciog ? You know, there are careers that actually advance society rather than impede it. | Oct 03 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @zoobab EFF letter to the US Supreme Court about software patents and binaries as prior art: http://ur1.ca/1xvcg | Oct 03 20:12 | |
| schestowitz | [19:58] <MinceR> like they say, "America, FUCK YEAH!" | Oct 03 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Who is Yeah? | Oct 03 20:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 03 20:14 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I think @horaciog could use some prodding | Oct 03 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Nobody inn Twitter even pays attention to him | Oct 03 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's why he not only extorts (stealth) but sues (public) | Oct 03 20:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/26195326889 | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | " zoobab: RT @mjasay: Hypocritical Microsoft sues over Android while pleading for support against i4i http://bit.ly/ajSyuh <Lame move @horaciog " | Oct 03 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/26261814864 "eWEEK quotes IDC analyst: lawsuits "are beginning to throw doubts on [Android's] provenance" http://bit.ly/d5hv2l via @eWEEKNews" | Oct 03 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | The mobbyists quotes IDG | Oct 03 20:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. @DanaBlankenhorn still quotes #mobbyists who attack !Linux while pretending to like FOSS (like front group ACT). http://ur1.ca/1xvwr | Oct 03 20:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #mobbyists are busy this weekend smearing Android, spreading FUD, speaking to Microsoft mates who do the same ("why I dumped Droid") | Oct 03 20:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The ridiculous thing is: In most cases they [Microsoft] are definitely not the first with their "invention"." http://ur1.ca/1x9o2 !linux | Oct 03 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FOSSpatents @edbott Welcome back // here we see one #mobbyist speaking to a Microsoft rep who attacks #Android ATM http://ur1.ca/1sg6j | Oct 03 20:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] "Europe should keep the internet open" and you can help: http://is.gd/fCrzp Pls spread the word! | Oct 03 20:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Enlightenment Foundation Libraries 1.0 Hit Beta: At long last, the EFL (Enlightenment Foundation Libraries) have r... http://bit.ly/amldzt | Oct 03 20:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra "Europe should keep the internet open" and you can help: http://is.gd/fCrzp Pls spread the word! | Oct 03 20:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera Appologies? Don't need them with me! :) | Oct 03 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's the difference between property and so-called "IP"? One is restriction on the finite, the latter is man-made sociopathic decision | Oct 03 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #DRM is just bad. Those of us who're lucky to know how far companies can go when we do nothing should act. http://ur1.ca/1rres !lo !dbd | Oct 03 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @SarahKSilverman: A fund has been set up for Greg Giraldo's 3 kids. http://bit.ly/a4K7fe Please RT. Thanks. | Oct 03 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] It's a bit out of date, but I'm sure you can still contact your MEPs and explain them why this is bad for their constituents. | Oct 03 20:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In arts, scarcity is access to the artist; In software, execution and branding may help; limitation on the infinite implies selfishness | Oct 03 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz What's the difference between property & "IP"? One is restriction on the finite, the latter is man-made sociopathic decision | Oct 03 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @ruiseabra "Europe should keep the internet open" and you can help: http://is.gd/fCrzp Pls spread the word! | Oct 03 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To the trolls who want to accuse me of hypocrisy, all my works were always freely shareable. Worked well for me and others I know who did it | Oct 03 20:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A thousand candles can be lighted from a single candle, yet the life of the candle is not shortened." {..} | Oct 03 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] {..} "Happiness is never decreased by being shared." — Siddhārtha Gautama | Oct 03 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACS:Law Boss: I Feel Defeated And Could Go Bankrupt - http://bit.ly/c6dH8m and that was *before* the leak #acslaw | Oct 03 20:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] UPDATE: It appears the new 4chan target is Ministry of Sound, previous article http://tinyurl.com/36c7rj7 !tpb !piracy !bittorrent | Oct 03 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sebinaj: Panchayati justice that takes away legal rights of Muslims: Rajeev Dhavan http://www.hindu.com/2010/10/01/stories... | Oct 03 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @fish_pond: QUESTIONING IS A CRIME NOW : Shabnam Hashmi http://goo.gl/5u8q #AyodhyaVerdict #hindutwa | Oct 03 20:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "With Oracle it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to make money." --James Gosling #scoracle #java #obstacle #swpats | Oct 03 20:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Microsoft Sues Motorola Over Android http://is.gd/fIT1G !fsfe !april !gnu | Oct 03 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody hell. The Beeb just referred to the west as capitalist. About time, for those that doubt it I can give date and time and broadcast. | Oct 03 21:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @royhugo: Microsoft Sues Motorola Over Android http://is.gd/fIT1G !fsfe !april !gnu | Oct 03 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] EFL goes beta! http://bit.ly/dek2IM | Oct 03 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: "With Oracle it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to make money." --James Gosling #scoracle #java #obstacle #swpats | Oct 03 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody ACS:Law Boss: I Feel Defeated And Could Go Bankrupt - http://bit.ly/c6dH8m >morally bankrupt and hopefully fully deflated | Oct 03 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @nhi please remember to remove group tags when you redent. | Oct 03 21:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20018102-245.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 "Researchers use TaintDroid tool to analyze potentially sensitive data collected from Android phones by a sample of apps." | Oct 03 21:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What's that Android app doing with my data? | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 128.51 KB | Oct 03 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This UK regime is still fudging over means tested benefits the same way that Ramsay Macdonald did. Can anyone identify the deserving poor? | Oct 03 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @osamak yeah realized that after it was sent sorry about that. | Oct 03 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Perhaps what we need is for profit work houses. | Oct 03 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Great Disconnect: Scholars Without Libraries - http://bit.ly/bipnmj "the marketplace of ideas is essentially a black market" #oa | Oct 03 21:25 | |
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| *WireWulf is now known as Wulf-is-not-here | Oct 03 21:39 | |
| *Wulf-is-not-here is now known as WireWulf | Oct 03 21:45 | |
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| http://slashdot.org/story/10/10/03/1240252/66-of-All-Windows-Users-Still-Use-Windows-XP?from=rss | Oct 03 21:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Story | 66% of All Windows Users Still Use Windows XP .::. Size~: 161.58 KB | Oct 03 21:46 |
| MinceR | hay | Oct 03 21:47 |
| net applications nonsense, but interesting because they can't hide overall losses in Windows share | Oct 03 21:47 | |
| hello | Oct 03 21:47 | |
| Ender2070 | the name of a canadian redhat fork | Oct 03 21:48 |
| Ender2070 | Toque Linux | Oct 03 21:48 |
| Ender2070 | (doesnt exist, just an idea, lol) | Oct 03 21:48 |
| it's also funny to see that after three or four years, they can't get Vista 7 onto more than one in five computers (vast over estimate) | Oct 03 21:48 | |
| It's my opinion that most of the "Vista" computers are actually XP. | Oct 03 21:49 | |
| the same is true of Windows 7, but I think most of those systems are sitting on shelves unsold. | Oct 03 21:50 | |
| bbl | Oct 03 21:50 | |
| WireWulf | umm XP was N5.x VISSTA is NT6.0.X and win7 is NT6.1.X | Oct 03 21:51 |
| MinceR | vista7 :> | Oct 03 21:51 |
| WireWulf | MinceR: good point | Oct 03 21:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Shared Color Profiles 0.1.2 http://ping.fm/dTxAp | Oct 03 22:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Another Record Month! GNOME Amazon Affiliate fees September 2010 http://ping.fm/EIZ1v | Oct 03 22:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Unix Fork, Exec and Process control: http://bit.ly/axq1jO | Oct 03 22:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I have to pay €100 for a 2:20 trainride to The Hague? Normally I pay €5 for a 3 hour ride to Hasselt #whatsTheDifference #EU #NMBS | Oct 03 22:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Dear Troll on my site: 137.56.163.64 - Open Proxy Detection .. You'll have to try alot harder. I'm laughing at your feeble attempts. !fail | Oct 03 23:00 | |
| qu1j0t3 | um. | Oct 03 23:01 |
| _Goblin | Troll tries hard, troll fails.... | Oct 03 23:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | got a reaction though, isn't that the objective? | Oct 03 23:02 |
| _Goblin | not yet it hasn't | Oct 03 23:02 |
| _Goblin | I nearly missed my filter catching it... | Oct 03 23:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | by 'troll' do you mean 'bot'? | Oct 03 23:03 |
| _Goblin | and the comment was nearly nuked....I had to manually save it to the text file to give the troll their freedom of speech | Oct 03 23:03 |
| _Goblin | no troll | Oct 03 23:03 |
| _Goblin | this person, doesn't have a bot... | Oct 03 23:03 |
| *qu1j0t3 is utterly confused now | Oct 03 23:03 | |
| _Goblin | he's a commenter on my site that tried to fill the comments with disgusting remarks. | Oct 03 23:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | is that unusual? | Oct 03 23:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | so it was filtered | Oct 03 23:04 |
| _Goblin | no..... | Oct 03 23:04 |
| _Goblin | I don't filter people....except | Oct 03 23:04 |
| _Goblin | in his case he was so vulgar I had to move his comments to a separate file that I will publish with a warning. | Oct 03 23:04 |
| _Goblin | I don't beleive in censorship so I don't have language filters, most people can behave like adults so its not a problem. | Oct 03 23:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | k | Oct 03 23:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | what did you post that was so.. provocative? | Oct 03 23:05 |
| _Goblin | I now just catch insecure proxies because he is too cowardly to post under his real ip | Oct 03 23:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm. | Oct 03 23:05 |
| _Goblin | and yes..it is provactive... need to make sure my proxy list is up to date....he helps me with that. | Oct 03 23:06 |
| _Goblin | my system is not perfect so I rely on him sending hundreds of posts to keep the blocker effective....Ive already had two other bloggers asking for the list... | Oct 03 23:08 |
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| Ender2070 | lol | Oct 03 23:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @BreakingNews: Verizon Wireless to pay up to $90 million in refunds to customers over data use charges - nytimes http://nyti.ms/9HbSdj | Oct 03 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Operation Payback statement: http://tieve.tk/about.php !piracy !tpb !bittorrent !ddos | Oct 03 23:12 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: WANTED | Oct 03 23:13 |
| schestowitz | The crime: Linux advocacy | Oct 03 23:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hm, there's another improvement we can do to the bot. | Oct 03 23:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, I wanted to know what the provocative post was about. | Oct 03 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Reward: laptop with Vista7 Ultimate Edishen | Oct 03 23:13 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: yep and Im also wanted for.......daring to give my honest held belief....I must be stopped!!!! | Oct 03 23:14 |
| _Goblin | I got a free copy of Sabayon 5.4..... ;) | Oct 03 23:14 |
| Ender2070 | nice | Oct 03 23:14 |
| _Goblin | I must be a Sabayon shill.... ;) | Oct 03 23:14 |
| Ender2070 | you are | Oct 03 23:15 |
| Ender2070 | gentoo > sabayon | Oct 03 23:15 |
| _Goblin | thats cool....I can live with that. | Oct 03 23:15 |
| Ender2070 | i like gentoo better so you're a shill | Oct 03 23:15 |
| Ender2070 | j/k | Oct 03 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/10/2010: #Gimpbox Introduced, ACS:Law Boss Could Go Bankrupt http://ur1.ca/1y0z6 !techrighs #roundup | Oct 03 23:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 3/10/2010: Gimpbox Introduced, ACS:Law Boss Could Go Bankrupt | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.88 KB | Oct 03 23:15 |
| _Goblin | :) Gentoo is sweet...its merely for convenience and now as a recommendation to others that I go Sabayon. | Oct 03 23:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | Gentoo works for me. | Oct 03 23:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | i just want a reliable box to work on, it delivers that, so I'm happy :) | Oct 03 23:16 |
| MinceR | gentoo worked for me for a while, then it didn't | Oct 03 23:16 |
| Ender2070 | yeah I like Sabayon | Oct 03 23:16 |
| _Goblin | and Gentoo/sabayon are both lightning fast. | Oct 03 23:16 |
| _Goblin | or to coin my phrase....punchy | Oct 03 23:17 |
| oiaohm | Every distribution targets different users. | Oct 03 23:17 |
| _Goblin | I also like the idea of a rolling release... | Oct 03 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The latest Ubuntu Linux distribution isn't quite perfect, but it's close http://ping.fm/c5NFh | Oct 03 23:17 | |
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| Ender2070 | sabayon is gentoo, its just done for you | Oct 03 23:17 |
| Ender2070 | same with calculate linux | Oct 03 23:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm interesting. | Oct 03 23:17 |
| _Goblin | yep....nice and simple....although you did forget to mention the groovy track that places when you boot the livecd | Oct 03 23:17 |
| oiaohm | sabayon is not as simple as gentoo to sneak into embed systems. | Oct 03 23:18 |
| MinceR | "gentoo" seems to contradict "its just done for you" :> | Oct 03 23:18 |
| _Goblin | "out of the box" I prefer to use | Oct 03 23:18 |
| MinceR | (even though i just went and enabled all the features for the most part :> ) | Oct 03 23:18 |
| Ender2070 | sabayon is simply based on gentoo | Oct 03 23:18 |
| Ender2070 | thats what I mean | Oct 03 23:18 |
| oiaohm | Compared to Linux from Scratch gentoo is done for you. MinceR | Oct 03 23:18 |
| Ender2070 | you can turn it back into gentoo by using emerge | Oct 03 23:19 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: :> | Oct 03 23:19 |
| _Goblin | having said that, isn't "out of the box" almost the defacto standard for most distro's these days? | Oct 03 23:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: hm yes I know an LFS dev in Melbourne as it happens | Oct 03 23:19 |
| Ender2070 | how can you be an LFS dev? | Oct 03 23:19 |
| Ender2070 | its a PDF | Oct 03 23:19 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | Oct 03 23:19 |
| oiaohm | LFS is great for 100 percent custom embed. | Oct 03 23:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | Ender2070: somebody has to write the damn pdf ;-) | Oct 03 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes Linux distributions cover a huge range. | Oct 03 23:20 |
| MinceR | someone has to write/update that pdf | Oct 03 23:20 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: There are still a lot of distributions that are not fully done out the box. | Oct 03 23:20 |
| oiaohm | And there always will be. | Oct 03 23:21 |
| oiaohm | When you have to fight with embed where ever bit less processor power and memory required is better. | Oct 03 23:21 |
| _Goblin | oiaohm: true, but then 99% of the distro's Ive run with only required a small amount of tinkering to get to a "sabayon functionality" | Oct 03 23:22 |
| _Goblin | Ive been messing with Tiny Core....now thats a different matter. | Oct 03 23:22 |
| oiaohm | Tiny Core is fun. Setting up a xchat only version of that at moment. _Goblin | Oct 03 23:22 |
| _Goblin | but even that, its quite user friendly...no secret to installing drivers and software. | Oct 03 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes I do mean xchat only. | Oct 03 23:23 |
| oiaohm | No other functionallity at all. | Oct 03 23:23 |
| _Goblin | cool! | Oct 03 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | weechat!!! (oiaohm yes i know your kids wanted gui) | Oct 03 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Its for scouts. qu1j0t3 | Oct 03 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep | Oct 03 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | but in general i think it's immoral that irc client should take 20mb res | Oct 03 23:24 |
| oiaohm | cut down linux with only xchat is going to scare the crud out of them. | Oct 03 23:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | Decline of Modern Civilisation, right there | Oct 03 23:24 |
| _Goblin | oiaohm: but its damn l337 though! ;) | Oct 03 23:24 |
| oiaohm | Last year they went off web browsing and run the 3g key out of quota. | Oct 03 23:24 |
| oiaohm | Not this year. | Oct 03 23:25 |
| oiaohm | So yes I expect some upset ones. | Oct 03 23:25 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 03 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Oct 03 23:25 |
| _Goblin | how about a CLI text based browser? best of both worlds? | Oct 03 23:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: yeah when i was in Oz last, 5GB month limit. Impossible for us to stick to that. | Oct 03 23:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | _Goblin: weechat+lynx :D | Oct 03 23:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | _Goblin: thanks for reminding me, need to test what I'm working on in lynx. | Oct 03 23:26 |
| oiaohm | Other than using lynx some sites think you are an attacker. | Oct 03 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | their problem :D | Oct 03 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @gimpusers !GIMP 2.6.11 is available for download http://is.gd/fJ3ji | Oct 03 23:27 | |
| _Goblin | you could also include a basic twitter app with a bash script using CURL command. | Oct 03 23:27 |
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| _Goblin | and tart it up with dialog command! | Oct 03 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | _Goblin++ | Oct 03 23:28 |
| _Goblin | I beginning to think I should make my own distro! Linux L337 2010 "where user-friendlyness and appealing visuals are a thing of the past..but hey, you can look down your nose at others.." | Oct 03 23:29 |
| oiaohm | Once I am done with the xchat version fully. I might do a a weechat as well. | Oct 03 23:30 |
| _Goblin | Damn Unfriendly Linux....or DUL....yep I think that would work...I think Ive found a gap in the Linux market. | Oct 03 23:30 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: kind of like mac os sux? | Oct 03 23:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Updated "Details Needed About New Red Hat-Acacia Patent Settlement" with new information http://ur1.ca/1xh90 #redhat #swpats | Oct 03 23:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Details Needed About New Red Hat-Acacia Patent Settlement (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.4 KB | Oct 03 23:30 |
| oiaohm | _Goblin: only windows manager ratpoison of course. _Goblin | Oct 03 23:30 |
| MinceR | (user-hostile ui, check. unappealing visuals, check. looking down at others, check.) | Oct 03 23:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | twm! | Oct 03 23:31 |
| *qu1j0t3 runz | Oct 03 23:31 | |
| _Goblin | mincer: well as you know, in order to be leet you have to make life as difficult as possible. | Oct 03 23:31 |
| _Goblin | ;) | Oct 03 23:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 03 23:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | <: | Oct 03 23:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Brief Exchange with Deepak Chopra - Oh the Humanity! http://ur1.ca/1y1ic Little summary of the argument I was part of last night | Oct 03 23:32 | |
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| _Goblin | ... | Oct 03 23:32 |
| schestowitz | "After that, it was if they flood gates of Chopra minions sprung forth to peel the flesh from my skin and serve it to their Chopra master." | Oct 03 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Oct 03 23:33 |
| _Goblin | i keep putting off finishing some articles.... | Oct 03 23:33 |
| oiaohm | twm user friendly compared to ratpoison | Oct 03 23:33 |
| _Goblin | was trying to have a lazy day.... | Oct 03 23:33 |
| _Goblin | Quote a reviewer of Sabayon KDE "As always, Sabayon's default boot option is to boot and play some obscure heavy metal rock music in the background; as always (aside from when I first tested Sabayon 5.0, which I did not formally review on this blog), I opted not to listen to it. " | Oct 03 23:35 |
| _Goblin | The music is the best bit of the livecd! | Oct 03 23:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fcassia I´m curious if LindowsOS didnt patent their One-click-install and if they couldnt go against Apple app store / #swpats | Oct 03 23:35 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: guess who talks to johnobeto ? | Oct 03 23:40 |
| schestowitz | The mobbyists | Oct 03 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. THe mobbyists just talk to the MSMVPs now cause nobody in the FS world would speak to them | Oct 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://skunkpost.com/news.sp?newsId=3288 | Oct 03 23:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner no OS is perfect. "If you optimize everything, you will always be unhappy." --Don Knuth | Oct 03 23:45 | |
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| hazzy | Oh, hey, wait a second | Oct 03 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | wb ツ | Oct 03 23:52 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: who? | Oct 03 23:52 |
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| Ender2070 | me | Oct 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | The mobbyist | Oct 03 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: wb | Oct 03 23:52 |
| Ender2070 | ? | Oct 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | The one pretending to be a "FOSS" guy | Oct 03 23:52 |
| _Goblin | I think Ive had a few conversations with him... | Oct 03 23:52 |
| sebsebseb | oh yeah now I remember | Oct 03 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | something | Oct 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Who attack everything and everyone associated with Linux | Oct 03 23:53 |
| sebsebseb | I had links to share here, and not omgubuntu :D | Oct 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | He's not just ignored by the | Oct 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | He's not just ignored by them | Oct 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | So he only hangs out with Microsoft boosters, ACCESS/Apple trolls and the like | Oct 03 23:53 |
| schestowitz | It's amusing how fact he got exposed and made a rotten apple | Oct 03 23:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adoption of !GNU !Linux on the Desktop http://ur1.ca/1y23k One picture is worth a thousand words... | Oct 03 23:54 | |
| schestowitz | His lobbying career in computer is over | Oct 03 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Not sure about the footballobbying | Oct 03 23:54 |
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| Ender2070 | who is this? | Oct 03 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | TheOnion | Oct 03 23:55 |
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| sebsebseb | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/assigning-copyright | Oct 03 23:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Next in series on CC welfare impact http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/23658 #econ #research | Oct 03 23:57 | |
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| schestowitz | http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/07/06/is-there-really-an-open-source-tea-party-movement/ | Oct 03 23:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Moved by Freedom Powered by Standards » Is there really an Open Source Tea Party Movement? .::. Size~: 55.1 KB | Oct 03 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Forking-Time | Oct 03 23:57 |
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| hazzy | I'm trying to bring more attention to independent candidates for the presidential election in 2012 | Oct 03 23:57 |
| Ender2070 | btw, ACCESS fired its trolls, no more funding | Oct 03 23:58 |
| Ender2070 | they trolled as much as they could, it couldn't prop up the ELSE and the trolls got canned | Oct 03 23:59 |
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