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qu1j0t3but in a way he is. he's worthless if your aim is to run an ethical business.Oct 03 00:00
qu1j0t3he's perfect if you want criminal scumOct 03 00:00
qu1j0t3and liarsOct 03 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mono index recently exceeded 10k pageviews Mono Applications at 17,497 03 00:00
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qu1j0t3if you have no principles you can get very rich in this world...Oct 03 00:00
Chips_B_Malroywell, Ballmer is worth 15 to 16 billion, depending on the price of MS Stock on any certain dayOct 03 00:01
qu1j0t3right. 'wot, me worry'Oct 03 00:01
qu1j0t3insider selling continues, i expect.Oct 03 00:01
Chips_B_Malroyas far as I see, Ballmer is a complete tightwad that gives nothing to charityOct 03 00:01
qu1j0t3doesn't care about washing his reputation, i guess.Oct 03 00:02
Chips_B_Malroybut he did give 100k to the group to stop the taxes on the rich (himself) in his home state, so maybe he does 'give.'Oct 03 00:02
qu1j0t3"465th on the Forbes Executive Pay in 2010Oct 03 00:03
qu1j0t3but:Oct 03 00:03
qu1j0t3"33rd on the Forbes World's Richest People in 2010Oct 03 00:03
Chips_B_Malroyyes, exactly, something dosn't add up thereOct 03 00:04
qu1j0t3i guess when he 'retires' he'll start doing damage with philanthropyOct 03 00:04
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: why not?Oct 03 00:04
qu1j0t3he's been there since 1980.Oct 03 00:04
qu1j0t3in other words, he lived through the 2 decades of insane growth.Oct 03 00:04
Chips_B_Malroyits obvious that Ballmer makes more than the guys working for himOct 03 00:04
qu1j0t3his wealth would have been based on stock socked away over those yearsOct 03 00:04
Chips_B_Malroyhe must be making it with higher stock optionsOct 03 00:04
cubevectorschestowitz, this might be too much for my serverOct 03 00:04
qu1j0t3no, this is the weird part: "Fortune:Self Made"Oct 03 00:04
Chips_B_Malroywhich is how he got all that stockOct 03 00:05
qu1j0t3yes.Oct 03 00:05
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: but not lately.Oct 03 00:05
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: his bonuses have been cut.Oct 03 00:05
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: his wealth is from previous fat years, and MANY of them.Oct 03 00:05
Chips_B_Malroybut they did not talk about the stock optionsOct 03 00:05
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: the 80s and 90s were the glory daysOct 03 00:05
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: rivers of goldOct 03 00:05
cubevectorI think we better change it to 03 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - konsole demo   .::. Size~: 105.11 KBOct 03 00:05
Chips_B_Malroyif he is not getting stock or kickbacks, then he is in it for the powerOct 03 00:06
*qu1j0t3 closes the page.. ughOct 03 00:06
Chips_B_Malroywhat is a few million, if you have 15 billion or more?Oct 03 00:06
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: he's minding the farm while Gates is off wrecking the world in ways he couldn't behind a desk at MSOct 03 00:07
cubevector500 downloads and countingOct 03 00:07
cubevectorthat's like 8 gigsOct 03 00:07
Chips_B_Malroy<cubevector> 500 downloads and counting"  you cpu and lan card must be frying, better put a huge fan on themOct 03 00:08
qu1j0t3hehOct 03 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decided to try Peppermint IceOct 03 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just realised that sounds like a toothpaste more than a linux distro but hey, it's erm.....uhm....coolOct 03 00:08
cubevectorChips_B_Malroy, the thing is I'm not sure what my transfer limit isOct 03 00:09
Chips_B_Malroyquote from the link:  "But the board also cited some issues with Ballmer's management in recent months--the company's fiscal year runs from July to June. It said that "the unsuccessful launch of the Kin phone; loss of market share in the company's mobile phone business; and the need for the Company to pursue innovations to take advantage of new form factors" also factored into its compensation decision."Oct 03 00:10
qu1j0t3poor little rich manOct 03 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb its a great distro that Ive followed since the early releases...great team too! Very friendly bunch! !peppermintOct 03 00:10
Chips_B_Malroyyes, its so sadOct 03 00:10
sebsebsebOk we already know this stuff, but anyway 03 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 5 Things Linux Does Better Than Mac OS X - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 71.35 KBOct 03 00:12
sebsebsebaltough I didn't reolise that OS X has admin like Windows, but sure that makes senseOct 03 00:13
Chips_B_MalroyFrom a comment on that link I posted:  "The big Balm shouldn't get any bonus. He has presided over failure after failure at Microsoft. If the board and Gates had any guts they would fire him."Oct 03 00:13
cubevectorok, tessier or schestowitz just the clip of the day to when you get a chanceOct 03 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - konsole demo   .::. Size~: 105.94 KBOct 03 00:13
Chips_B_MalroyAnd that was the very first commentOct 03 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes I've been a regular in the mint channels for ages now, a lot of the people are the same peopleOct 03 00:13
cubevectorI removed the video from my serverOct 03 00:13
sebsebsebapparnetly its more  like Unix/Linux since rootOct 03 00:15
*sebsebseb doesn't own a Mac :)Oct 03 00:15
qu1j0t3This is false. "Systems crashes and downtime are pretty much a fact of life when you're a Mac user"Oct 03 00:18
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qu1j0t3I use both every day. I get a Mac kernel panic maybe once a year, or every 2 years.Oct 03 00:18
Chips_B_Malroyits a nix kernel, Darwin/BSD so its stableOct 03 00:19
qu1j0t3OS X is bulletproof. This guy doesn't appear to be familiar with it. Most of the points are philosophical generalities.Oct 03 00:19
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: quite so.Oct 03 00:19
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrightsOct 03 00:19
qu1j0t3of course Linux runs on more hardware than OS X. And NetBSD on more hardware than Linux. ...Oct 03 00:19
Chips_B_Malroylike Linux, which is probably more bulletproof than MacOct 03 00:19
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: no, it's not.Oct 03 00:20
qu1j0t3they are, however, comparable.Oct 03 00:20
qu1j0t3i run them side by side for many years. his point is false.Oct 03 00:20
Chips_B_MalroyI found it a bit too locked down for me to use compared to LinuxOct 03 00:20
Chips_B_MalroyBut superior to WindowsOct 03 00:20
qu1j0t3sure. there's no good user-level package manager. but it's not aimed at developers.Oct 03 00:21
oiaohmschestowitz:  Why are people baffled the explain starts here. 03 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So how on earth did Firefox reach 70% market share in Indonesia? .::. Size~: 94.52 KBOct 03 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indonesia adopts JDS on Linux as a national desktop .::. Size~: 34.13 KBOct 03 00:21
oiaohmFrom 2005 indonesia goverment has been Linux so all web sites by goverment are tested with firefox not IEOct 03 00:21
qu1j0t3oiaohm: that's good. common sense at last.Oct 03 00:22
Chips_B_MalroyAlso GNU/Linux runs very well (FREE) compared to Mac OS X on hardware that costs 3x as much.Oct 03 00:22
oiaohmSo you want to do business in indonesia you better use firefox.Oct 03 00:22
oiaohmI also guess chrome has high usage as well.Oct 03 00:22
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: Linux on PowerPC isn't so well supported. I only own PowerPC Macs.Oct 03 00:22
oiaohmAnd IE would be no existant in indonesiaOct 03 00:22
oiaohmFunny part is all windows dvd's to come into australia come from indonesiaOct 03 00:23
Chips_B_MalroyI think Mepis runs on Mac as wellOct 03 00:23
gnufreex[01:17:58] <qu1j0t3> of course Linux runs on more hardware than OS X. And NetBSD on more hardware than Linux. ...Oct 03 00:23
gnufreexthat is myth. NetBSD only run on more CPUs (not more hardware) because it uses old code and puts portability over anything. Buy being able to boot NetBSD on something like PA-RISC, gets you nowhere. NetBSD doesn't support most of harware that goes with CPUs that NetBSD support.Oct 03 00:23
qu1j0t3gnufreex: well, it's not exactly a myth, but it's not a very important point either.Oct 03 00:23
Chips_B_Malroyoptimized for it I should sayOct 03 00:23
oiaohmLinux supports more cpus than NetBSD by the way.  gnufreexOct 03 00:23
qu1j0t3gnufreex: On the common linux platforms, there is good device support. netBSD is a different market.Oct 03 00:23
oiaohmNetBSD hardware coverage is not great.Oct 03 00:24
oiaohmUse to be about 5 to 6 years ago.Oct 03 00:24
oiaohmBut time has moved on.Oct 03 00:24
qu1j0t3yes, over 50 ports.Oct 03 00:24
Chips_B_MalroyBut Mac is not FREE, or really supports FREEdomOct 03 00:24
qu1j0t3linux focuses on x86, now. Alpha, PPC, SPARC, all stagnant.Oct 03 00:24
qu1j0t3though I've run all of them , and 68K, etc, at some point.Oct 03 00:25
Chips_B_MalroyApple is even suing Google for AndroidOct 03 00:25
qu1j0t3Linux ran fairly nicely on Alpha (the first non-x86 port, after all)Oct 03 00:25
oiaohmYou have missed arm tile and a whole stack of network structs cpus Linux wupports.Oct 03 00:25
oiaohmsupports qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:25
qu1j0t3oiaohm: I was naming stagnant platforms.Oct 03 00:25
qu1j0t3oiaohm: not listing supported ones.Oct 03 00:25
oiaohmPPC linux still works quite well.Oct 03 00:26
qu1j0t3Linux' home will always be x86, for desktops.Oct 03 00:26
qu1j0t3oiaohm: yeah but you're always fighting stagnation. the installed bases are tiny.Oct 03 00:26
gnufreexLinux support POWER and s390x, that is very active (IBM). Alo tilera port is getting into mainline.Oct 03 00:26
oiaohmI would be beting that qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:26
qu1j0t3oiaohm: I used to use it in 2001-ish, on PPC604Oct 03 00:26
oiaohmArm is going after the desktop.  qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:26
qu1j0t3ran it on Alpha for years after thatOct 03 00:26
qu1j0t3oiaohm: sure ARM!Oct 03 00:26
qu1j0t3oiaohm: but that isn't among the platforms I listed as stagnant.Oct 03 00:26
oiaohmAlso china is pushing MIPSOct 03 00:27
gnufreexqu1j0t3: It is not stagnant. IBM sells POWER 7 with LinuxOct 03 00:27
qu1j0t3gnufreex: w00t, for desktops?Oct 03 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oiaohm explains that 70% in #Indonesia use Firefox because"Indonesia adopts JDS on !Linux as a national desktop" 03 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indonesia adopts JDS on Linux as a national desktop .::. Size~: 34.13 KBOct 03 00:27
qu1j0t3gnufreex: server is different kettle of fish... see also: NetBSD and devices.Oct 03 00:27
Chips_B_Malroy 03 00:27
gnufreexqu1j0t3: not for desktops. But it is same code.Oct 03 00:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yes, Windows Phone 7 is doomed | TG Daily .::. Size~: 47.56 KBOct 03 00:27
qu1j0t3gnufreex: all of these discussions require qualification of "market"Oct 03 00:27
qu1j0t3gnufreex: mobile/desktop/server/embeddedOct 03 00:27
oiaohmIBM provides the PPC version of the Linux kernel qu1j0t3 out side mainline with better updates.Oct 03 00:28
qu1j0t3gnufreex: i wouldn't be hoping for much excitement on Linux/pa-risc or linux/powerpc desktops.Oct 03 00:28
oiaohmI will IBM would sync.  qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:28
qu1j0t3or linux/sparc desktops.Oct 03 00:28
oiaohmI wish IBM would syncOct 03 00:28
oiaohmI know because I still use PPC embed.  qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:28
qu1j0t3EMBEDDED, oiaohm .Oct 03 00:28
qu1j0t3different market.Oct 03 00:28
*qu1j0t3 sighsOct 03 00:28
oiaohmNo netbsd targets embed.Oct 03 00:28
qu1j0t3look at NetBSD strength in embedded.Oct 03 00:28
qu1j0t3yes.Oct 03 00:29
oiaohmIt found in quite a few routers.Oct 03 00:29
qu1j0t3it's a very major target.Oct 03 00:29
Chips_B_Malroy"Oct 03 00:29
Chips_B_MalroyBecause I?m not sure if there is anyone I know who would seriously consider purchasing a Windows-powered phone.Oct 03 00:29
Chips_B_MalroySeriously, folks, how many people do you see running around proudly flashing their Zunes? ??Oct 03 00:29
Chips_B_MalroyUm, yeah.?? Probably not that many, right?Oct 03 00:29
Chips_B_Malroy"Oct 03 00:29
qu1j0t3oiaohm: a quick glance at will show you many embedded platformsOct 03 00:29
oiaohmSo when talking about netbsd vs linux you have to consider embeded.Oct 03 00:29
qu1j0t3well, duh.Oct 03 00:29
qu1j0t3that's what I have been saying?Oct 03 00:29
oiaohmNot desktopOct 03 00:29
qu1j0t3duh?Oct 03 00:29
qu1j0t3i think you might have missed some of the conversation.Oct 03 00:29
Chips_B_Malroy"Windows Phone 7 may not fail as utterly as the hipster-oriented Kin. But the overhyped smartphone platform is doomed nonetheless."Oct 03 00:29
oiaohmBut in embeded LInux support hardware than netbsd.Oct 03 00:30
Chips_B_Malroyits a quote from the link I postedOct 03 00:30
gnufreexqu1j0t3: Why is important if it is diffrent market? It is same OS. You said POWER and SPARC ports are abandoned. I think only SPARC is abandoned.Oct 03 00:30
qu1j0t3gnufreex: well, for example, I run PowerPC desktops and laptops. linux on these is stagnant compared to x86. but this should surprise few.Oct 03 00:30
Chips_B_Malroyon the desktop sparc has more of a chanceOct 03 00:30
qu1j0t3well, maybe 8 yrs ago, it did :)Oct 03 00:31
gnufreexqu1j0t3: If it is 32-bit, then it is abandoned. 64-bit POWER is developed extensively.Oct 03 00:31
qu1j0t3but in reality there's no user base to sustain itOct 03 00:31
qu1j0t3gnufreex: POWER is server platform.Oct 03 00:31
Chips_B_Malroy  wow a good article from SeattleOct 03 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brier Dudley's Blog | Microsoft using anti-Linux tactic against Google's Android | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 55.36 KBOct 03 00:31
gnufreexqu1j0t3: POWER is same as PPC.Oct 03 00:31
qu1j0t3gnufreex: Linux on PowerPC, such as I use, is not going to keep up with Linux on x86 desktop.Oct 03 00:32
qu1j0t3gnufreex: in what sense? POWER is server.Oct 03 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched The A-Team ★★☆☆☆ nice start to franchise, but action was.. too unbelievable (similar to Die Hard 4)Oct 03 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NHS Opens a Door to Free Software This Month #NHS and software freedom? Maybe the start of it all? !fs !fsf #healthOct 03 00:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NHS Opens a Door to Free Software This Month | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.99 KBOct 03 00:32
qu1j0t3gnufreex: I use 32-bit and 64-bit PowerPC. sure, Linux will *run*, I guess, but how active is the development?Oct 03 00:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: BBC News mentioned Motoralla being sued by the wayOct 03 00:32
schestowitz 03 00:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NHS - Techrights .::. Size~: 14.37 KBOct 03 00:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: on the TV thing at night for example.  I mean the news at the bottom going across the screenOct 03 00:33
schestowitzsebsebseb: how does it portray Microsoft's action?Oct 03 00:33
gnufreexqu1j0t3: Do you talk about kernel or what? Developlent is active, only if you expect things like Flash to work, you are hosed.Oct 03 00:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: and so I guess in their tech news section to, but I haven't lookedOct 03 00:33
sebsebsebon the siteOct 03 00:33
schestowitzAs "poor Microsoft" having its things "stolen"?Oct 03 00:33
oiaohmHave you ever used crux linux qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:33
qu1j0t3gnufreex: well, all things matter to an end user, but all of these things are relatively stagnant.Oct 03 00:33
schestowitzOr vicious dying monopolist attacking the industry?Oct 03 00:33
schestowitzThat's what mattersOct 03 00:33
qu1j0t3oiaohm: Crux? no.Oct 03 00:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] never rule MS out of a market, if a general is willing to sacrifice most of his troops to win the hill instead of good tacticsOct 03 00:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: I guess time to have a look for something about it in the online newsOct 03 00:33
schestowitzThe BBC is FILLED with MS UK employeesOct 03 00:33
qu1j0t3oiaohm: when I used Linux on PPC it was Yellowdog and a few others. LinuxPPCOct 03 00:33
schestowitzPlease checkOct 03 00:34
Chips_B_Malroy"I wonder if Google will step up to defend Android, or resurrect the coalition of phone companies that initially backed the software to either fight Microsoft's lawsuit or sort out a licensing arrangement."Oct 03 00:34
schestowitzReport so we can report on it :-)Oct 03 00:34
oiaohmIt desktop and still has fully functional and uptodate PPC version.  qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:34
_Goblinschestowitz: I think "vicious dying monopolist attacking the industry" is the more accurateOct 03 00:34
schestowitzCool!Oct 03 00:34
qu1j0t3oiaohm: well that's nice, but i don't need it. and the user base is tiny, so ...Oct 03 00:34
Chips_B_Malroy"Meanwhile, Microsoft is happy to sell the phone companies its new phone operating system, which has presumably gone through a gauntlet of patent lawyers. Apparently Motorola hasn't signed up yet for Windows Phone 7."Oct 03 00:34
oiaohmNot that tiny.  qu1j0t3Oct 03 00:34
sebsebsebschestowitz: however last night / this morning  I saw it at the bottom of the screen,  on the thing I was on aboutOct 03 00:34
qu1j0t3oiaohm: compared to x86 :)Oct 03 00:34
oiaohmWhen doing embed work having the same cpu core as device is useful.Oct 03 00:35
oiaohmcrux can also be cut completely down for embeding.Oct 03 00:35
qu1j0t3oiaohm: in the meantime, speaking of tiny user-bases, my brother has got 2.6 latest and glibc working on Mac/68K...Oct 03 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @johndrinkwater you've never seen a group of misfits fly a tank? that happens all the time roflOct 03 00:35
qu1j0t3and Linux/VAX is progressing. Sorta.Oct 03 00:35
oiaohmnetbsd and crux have about the same size userbase.Oct 03 00:35
qu1j0t3at least it's up to 2.6 as well, now.Oct 03 00:36
oiaohmFor the same reasons as well.Oct 03 00:36
Chips_B_Malroy 03 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows Phone 7 ad appears, but analyst says Microsoft will FAIL | .::. Size~: 68.96 KBOct 03 00:36
qu1j0t3'b 4Oct 03 00:36
qu1j0t3oopOct 03 00:36
sebsebsebschestowitz: ah yes now I remember I really don't like the new look for the BBC News site, compared to the old oneOct 03 00:37
Chips_B_Malroy"Eric Bleeker, analyst over at The Motley Fool, reckons Windows Phone 7 might be humped before it even gets going. To quote the erstwhile Mr Bleeker, ?I hate to sound dismissive of Windows Phone 7 before it even hits stores, but the deck is stacked against it. Regardless of Windows Phone 7?s features, it?s just too late in the game.?"Oct 03 00:37
schestowitzcubevector: just added the youtube link. Check to see it worksOct 03 00:37
cubevectorokOct 03 00:38
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: how do u feel about Gates owning The Guardian?Oct 03 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @thistleweb nor seen people play skittles with shipping containers!Oct 03 00:38
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: Does he?Oct 03 00:39
*sebsebseb is behind with most tech news at the momentOct 03 00:39
sebsebseb 03 00:39
qu1j0t3this isn't tech news. file under RealpolitikOct 03 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Change to 'Bios' will make for PCs that boot in seconds .::. Size~: 51.8 KBOct 03 00:39
Chips_B_Malroy 03 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AT&Ts HTC Mondrian Ads Parodied, Missing Windows Phone 7 Features Pointed Out   - SoftSailor .::. Size~: 34.51 KBOct 03 00:39
Chips_B_Malroy"Earlier today we showed you AT&T?s leaked ads of the HTC Mondrian, probably the carrier?s first Windows Phone 7 smartphone. Well, the first Windows Phone 7 parodies didn?t fail to show up so if you want to mock Microsoft and Windows Phone 7 ads (including myself), then you can show them this video."Oct 03 00:40
qu1j0t3 03 00:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The Guardian launches global development website with Gates Foundation | GNM press office |  .::. Size~: 52.16 KBOct 03 00:40
qu1j0t3"GODS WITH CHEQUEBOOKS" (I shit you not) 03 00:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Melinda Gates: gods with chequebooks | From the Guardian | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 85.04 KBOct 03 00:40
sebsebsebYeah 3D TV is the latest hype 03 00:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC - Newsbeat - Sky launches Europe's first 3D TV channel in the UK .::. Size~: 44.2 KBOct 03 00:40
Chips_B_Malroy"The parody says that Windows Phone 7 can?t copy and paste, can?t multitask, and can?t tether. All of these are true, but Microsoft said that these functionalities will become available soon after launch."Oct 03 00:40
cubevectorschestowitz, yup it works fineOct 03 00:40
cubevectorthanks, it was just generating too much traffic for meOct 03 00:41
oiaohmHmm another pack of fake promises to sell stuff Chips_B_MalroyOct 03 00:41
oiaohmRemember all the promises about vista and windows 7 that did not get given.Oct 03 00:41
Chips_B_Malroy 03 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 7 fail: Viva la Vista - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 64.83 KBOct 03 00:41
schestowitzHow much?Oct 03 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @johndrinkwater after the flying tank that was nothing lolOct 03 00:42
_GoblinChips_B_Malroy: yep, and they'll suck a little more money out of for each feature...either that or its not got that functionality because they are rushing in out in a vain hope of getting some of the market share.Oct 03 00:42
_Goblin*rushing itOct 03 00:42
schestowitzYou run it on your own box/connection at home?Oct 03 00:42
oiaohmThey have to rush because there market share is vaporising.Oct 03 00:42
schestowitzChips_B_Malroy: ^^^^^Oct 03 00:43
_Goblinor vaporised...Oct 03 00:43
schestowitzOopsOct 03 00:43
schestowitzcubevector: ^^^Oct 03 00:43
sebsebseb3D TV might become like Mac's soon, you know for people who think they are so cool for havingOct 03 00:43
ThistleWebor evaporatingOct 03 00:43
cubevectorschestowitz, yeahOct 03 00:43
oiaohmevaporating is current status _GoblinOct 03 00:43
oiaohmThere is still a little bit of liquid of a market share there.Oct 03 00:43
_Goblinits not going to go Microsofts way though if the analyists are correct.Oct 03 00:44
_Goblin*analistsOct 03 00:44
_Goblin*or something.....Oct 03 00:44
oiaohmMS in mobile phones are mostly down to the DIE hard MS people and the people who cannot afford to upgrade.Oct 03 00:44
ThistleWebyeah they do like screwing people so analists my workOct 03 00:44
_Goblinlol..Oct 03 00:44
oiaohmBut the die hards will only put up with a weak device for so long.Oct 03 00:45
_Goblinmy bad spelling is rather apt then!Oct 03 00:45
ThistleWebfreudian slipOct 03 00:46
Chips_B_Malroyits a phone, I do not see the loyality with phone OS'es like computers.  With computers users sometimes feel locked into uses an OS or certain programs.  I do not see that with phones.Oct 03 00:46
oiaohmThere is a little lock in. Chips_B_MalroyOct 03 00:46
Chips_B_MalroyWhich is why I think MS is going to take a big beating on phonesOct 03 00:47
oiaohmInternal company apps for phones Chips_B_MalroyOct 03 00:47
ThistleWebwith gadgets people are buying a lieftsyle choice, membership to a peer group, people WANT to belong to apple, and adnroid, they dont want to belong to mictrosoftOct 03 00:47
oiaohmBut yes its way smaller.Oct 03 00:47
oiaohmAnd if they are forced to wait to long that lock in can be broken.Oct 03 00:47
ThistleWebfor many many people their only expeience of Microsoft is constant virus issues, reboots etcOct 03 00:47
*oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Oct 03 00:47
Chips_B_Malroymostly I see people who are buying a phone, except for many the iOs usersOct 03 00:48
ThistleWebeven if they're not aware there's any choice, it's not a positive association, it's tollerating them because they either have to or think they have toOct 03 00:48
Chips_B_Malroyor BlackberryOct 03 00:48
ThistleWebI still reckon RIM should do a small device designed to clip onto a belt called a DangleberryOct 03 00:48
ThistleWebor a keyringOct 03 00:49
sebsebseb 03 00:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - More than 100 arrests, as FBI uncovers cyber crime ring .::. Size~: 48.29 KBOct 03 00:51
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP Slate tablet with Windows 7 embarrasses, Samsung Galaxy Tab impresses (videos) | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 47.03 KBOct 03 00:52
Chips_B_Malroy"We couldn?t have asked for a better-timed tablet comparison. A cunning YouTube user managed to record a quick overview of a prototype HP Slate tablet running Windows 7, and not surprisingly, the results are thoroughly disappointing."Oct 03 00:53
Chips_B_Malroy"Meanwhile, Samsung unveiled the latest video demonstration of its Galaxy Tab Android tablet, and it doesn?t fail to impress."Oct 03 00:53
Chips_B_Malroy"Windows 7 is so ill-suited to the device that you have to hit a physical button to pull up its virtual keyboard ? it?s not even smart enough to determine when a user needs to enter text. The Slate appears to boot up quickly and overall touch response seems zippy, but it?s clear that using Windows 7 with your fingers will be a usability nightmare. And let?s not even get into its physical Control-Alt-Delete button."Oct 03 00:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: 03 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Microsoft sues Motorola over Android phones .::. Size~: 48.59 KBOct 03 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #watched Cloverfield ★★☆☆☆ unsure. direction style good (though after blair witch, cliché?), story.. rubbishOct 03 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] need to find a half star between ★ & ☆ in #unicode :)Oct 03 00:58
sebsebseb_Goblin: gnufreex  Want one? :D 03 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat T Shirts now available in Canonical store .::. Size~: 48.92 KBOct 03 01:02
sebsebsebI agree with people saying they look like normal t shirtsOct 03 01:02
sebsebsebI read about it this morning / last nightOct 03 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Gem desktop in a !Linux desktop thanks to Hatari - An Atari ST emulator for Linux..Review coming on OpenBytes! 03 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] while i’m thinking about #unicode, swear I saw /!\ the other day o.O people, it is U+26A0 ⚠Oct 03 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Gem desktop in a !Linux desktop thanks to Hatari - An Atari S... on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 9.79 KBOct 03 01:03
_Goblinsebsebseb: nah, I think I'll pass.Oct 03 01:04
sebsebseb_Goblin: yeah I won't buy, but they look niceOct 03 01:04
_Goblinsebsebseb: I always think distro specific T-shirts are a little fanboyish....Oct 03 01:05
sebsebsebwell yesOct 03 01:05
sebsebseb,but these don't seem to say Ubuntu on themOct 03 01:06
_Goblinsebsebseb: no so to most people you will look like someone who has a love of Meerkats...and to those in the know you'll look like a fanboy....Like I say, Ive not bought into the idea!Oct 03 01:06
sebsebsebwell yeah what you just said I guessOct 03 01:07
ThistleWebt-shirts are more like cars with subs, it's about "look at me"Oct 03 01:07
sebsebsebsubs?Oct 03 01:07
ThistleWebsubwoofersOct 03 01:07
_Goblinlike my "Smeg head" T-shirt?Oct 03 01:07
sebsebsebonly thing with version specific t shirts, is that they start to look old rather quicklyOct 03 01:07
sebsebsebI mean theres that as wellOct 03 01:07
ThistleWebit is funny to hear bon jovi blasting from a car subOct 03 01:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Appears to be Lying as It Approaches Its SCO-esque Death Things just don’t add up.Oct 03 01:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Appears to be Lying as It Approaches Its SCO-esque Death | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.37 KBOct 03 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Cell Phone Reunion #collegereunionOct 03 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I'm so tempted to add a rule that if a bot does not support Accept-Encoding it cannot crawl my site, full stop.Oct 03 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cell Phone Reunion - CollegeHumor video .::. Size~: 47.19 KBOct 03 01:32
schestowitzsebsebseb: *LOL*Oct 03 01:33
schestowitzBBC: "The giant software maker said Motorola phones that use Google's Android software are based on Microsoft technology. "Oct 03 01:33
schestowitzMSBBC: they use Microsoft's CODE!!!Oct 03 01:33
schestowitz"are based on Microsoft technology"Oct 03 01:33
schestowitzThe fiends!! :-)Oct 03 01:33
schestowitzWhat it this, Plurk?Oct 03 01:33
schestowitz"Oracle says Google infringed patents on its Java software while developing its Android operating system."Oct 03 01:34
schestowitzIs this relevant at all to the news?Oct 03 01:34
schestowitzNoOct 03 01:34
schestowitz"Oracle has filed a lawsuit against Google, accusing the search engine giant of infringing patents on its technology."Oct 03 01:34
schestowitzMore FUDOct 03 01:34
schestowitzWay to go, MSBBCOct 03 01:34
schestowitz"Apple subsequently sued handset maker HTC."Oct 03 01:35
schestowitzFUD FUD... FTW! :-)Oct 03 01:35
schestowitzMSBBC summarises by telling you that Android is under legal threat from Apple, Oracle, MicrosoftOct 03 01:35
schestowitzIOW, "don't use it, it' risky!"Oct 03 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The MSBBC coverage of the Motorola lawsuit is utterly appalling, saying that "Google's Android software are based on Microsoft technology."Oct 03 01:37
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah it seems like a bit of a silly article reallyOct 03 01:38
sebsebseb_Goblin: ThistleWeb gnufreex  Ubuntu promotion on the back of those t shirts, according to a commentOct 03 01:39
sebsebsebschestowitz: someone gave me the link,  I got sucked into sharing some links from BBC in here again, but also in another channel :DOct 03 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The MSBBC closes the article (11 paragraphs), w/ the last 4 par purely dedicated to saying that Android is 'stealing' from MSFT, Apple, ORCLOct 03 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC - funded by taxpayers to pretend to be giving "objective" news while hiring almost only from Microsoft UK. #bbc #badjournalism !linuxOct 03 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz On the same day, from the same site, "Android apps sharing your data" more scare storiesOct 03 01:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Google Android apps found to be sharing data .::. Size~: 48.58 KBOct 03 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do these Uni fees include payments to the various IP rights holders for unproven infringements? 03 01:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  University students could face more than £10,000 a year in fees | Education |  .::. Size~: 84.63 KBOct 03 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What a really great idea Add-Art - 03 01:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HP Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards !GNU !Linux poisoned by Apotheker from "Microsoft of Europe" (SAP)Oct 03 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb On the same day, from the same site [MSBBC], "Android apps sharing your data" more scare storiesOct 03 02:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hewlett-Packard Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards GNU/Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.39 KBOct 03 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC - a pathetic excuse for "news" ever since the company so clearly took on board many Microsoft UK managers (entryism not escapism) #bbcOct 03 02:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot | Minnesota Moving To Microsoft's Cloud .::. Size~: 119.79 KBOct 03 02:13
schestowitzSomeone told me about itOct 03 02:16
schestowitzCitizens need to sue the governmentOct 03 02:16
schestowitzThey canOct 03 02:16
Ender2070ill be switching to opensuseOct 03 02:16
Ender2070i think it ages better nowOct 03 02:18
Ender2070fedora13 still doesnt have kde 4.5Oct 03 02:18
Ender2070the blockers preventing its inclusion are months oldOct 03 02:18
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WireWulfhello ladies and gentalmenOct 03 02:37
gnufreexEnder2070: Fedora 14 has KDE 4.5 and it is in beta now.Oct 03 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] RT @Dzone: Ubuntu 10.10: Steady Progress for Maverick - - @DZone Big Link by jennifercloerOct 03 02:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 10.10: Steady Progress for Maverick  .::. Size~: 35.18 KBOct 03 02:40
gnufreexHelo wwOct 03 02:40
Ender2070gnufreex  - using F14 right nowOct 03 02:42
Ender2070doesnt mean F14 will see an update to 4.6Oct 03 02:43
gnufreexIs KDE 4.6 even released yet?Oct 03 02:43
gnufreexIf you really like bleading edge, try ArchLinux. You will have stuff few weeks from release.Oct 03 02:44
gnufreexAnd if you enable testing AUR, you will have instantly. But maybe unstable.Oct 03 02:44
Ender2070problem with arch is that installation sucksOct 03 02:45
Ender2070i want something that installs easy like fedora and has all the latest software like archOct 03 02:46
gnufreexHow it sucks? It worked well for meOct 03 02:46
gnufreexTry chakraOct 03 02:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Chakra Project - Welcome .::. Size~: 6.01 KBOct 03 02:46
WireWulfhad issue with chakra and my old p4Oct 03 02:47
Ender2070i also want networkmanager and pulseaudioOct 03 02:48
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Ender2070chakra isn't arch anymoreOct 03 02:49
gnufreexIf you use Arch, you literaly can use anything and set up for yourself.Oct 03 02:49
WireWulfwelcome xaphirOct 03 02:49
xaphirHey WWOct 03 02:49
Ender2070i dont want to set it up myselfOct 03 02:49
Ender2070i just want to install it in 20 minutes and get to workOct 03 02:50
gnufreex... Fedora then...Oct 03 02:50
Ender2070either opensuse, or make a million fedora repos for all the software updates they refuse to packageOct 03 02:50
WireWulfEnder2070 use lunar linux and arch will seem awesomeOct 03 02:50
Ender2070also with f14 ill end up recompiling applications to add in link time optimizationOct 03 02:51
Ender2070so much bullshit just to have the latestOct 03 02:51
Ender2070not that im advocating windows, but at least there you can get the latest with little effortOct 03 02:52
gnufreexWhat is the point of having everything latest?Oct 03 02:52
Ender2070new features and bug fixesOct 03 02:52
WireWulfdunnoOct 03 02:52
gnufreexDoes old kernel stop working when new gets released?Oct 03 02:52
WireWulfsometimes new versions = worseOct 03 02:52
Ender2070KDE 4.4 to 4.5 is a huge changeOct 03 02:53
WireWulfgnufreex nope does notOct 03 02:53
xaphirI stay one level behind to maintain production quality with fedora.Oct 03 02:53
WireWulfEnder2070 but 4.5 had some wholes that 4.4 did notOct 03 02:53
xaphirthe new stuff is too rawOct 03 02:53
gnufreexWireWulf, I know I am just jokingOct 03 02:53
Ender2070the new features outweigh the holesOct 03 02:53
WireWulfgnufreex I would hope soOct 03 02:53
xaphirgnufreex: it was funnyOct 03 02:53
Ender2070these are personal preferences and im sure people dont agreeOct 03 02:54
xaphirF12 is going to be EOL soon but I'll still be running it for a year or moreOct 03 02:54
Ender2070its a good thing to have a ton of choices :)Oct 03 02:54
xaphirsome peeps have time to test bleeding edge stuff, I just don'tOct 03 02:55
Ender2070i dont have to have the latest *everything* but i'd like the latest kde, kernel, browser, xorgOct 03 02:55
Ender2070i figure if upstream thinks its stable, its good enough for meOct 03 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Assistindo "Os Marceneiros", com Silvério Stalonge. Vamos ver se é bão mesmo. O melhor foi o preço... ;-DOct 03 02:55
WireWulfi like stableOct 03 02:55
gnufreexEnder2070: I would recomend Sidux... but there was some renaming... I think it is called aptosid now.Oct 03 02:55
xaphirWireWulf: lunar is stable isn't it?Oct 03 02:56
Ender2070i've checked out aptosid already and have deemed it inferior, in my opinionOct 03 02:56
Ender2070but thats my opinionOct 03 02:56
Ender2070other people will love itOct 03 02:56
Ender2070most people love debian based stuff, i love rpm based stuffOct 03 02:56
schestowitzHoly crapOct 03 02:56
WireWulfxaphir anything yyou compile yourself is unstable but it is the stable kernelOct 03 02:56
schestowitzNot I'm trolled by the Chopra sheep/trollsOct 03 02:57
schestowitz*NowOct 03 02:57
WireWulfschestowitz sup dude?Oct 03 02:57
qu1j0t3schestowitz: blame me :DOct 03 02:57
Ender2070One thing I could do is just have my own Fedora repo, with rebuilt stuff I want that they dont doOct 03 02:58
qu1j0t3Ender2070: maybe you really want Arch.Oct 03 02:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Is there an !AGPL alternative to something like #disqus ?Oct 03 02:58
WireWulfor you could go source basedOct 03 02:58
Ender2070then i could stay with fedoraOct 03 02:58
Ender2070I could go source based but then I lose the maintenance that goes with having a distroOct 03 02:59
WireWulfEnder2070 there has to be a sable cutting state of the art distro for a guy like youOct 03 02:59
Ender2070its tough finding a satisfying distroOct 03 02:59
Ender2070lolOct 03 02:59
qu1j0t3Ender2070: gentoo works for me. but if u don't like that, try ArchOct 03 03:00
WireWulftried arch live?Oct 03 03:00
Ender2070i used to run gentooOct 03 03:00
Ender2070perhaps ill go back to itOct 03 03:00
Ender2070actually yeah :DOct 03 03:00
WireWulfnah use lunar and compile your own kernelOct 03 03:00
Ender2070lunar?Oct 03 03:00
Ender2070isnt that debian basedOct 03 03:00
WireWulf 03 03:01
WireWulfnopeOct 03 03:01
Ender2070yeah i checked it out just nowOct 03 03:01
Ender2070its not anything based?Oct 03 03:02
WireWulfnopeOct 03 03:02
Ender2070I was looking at calculate linux tooOct 03 03:02
WireWulfcollege students tend to like itOct 03 03:02
Ender2070its gentoo based and compatibleOct 03 03:02
Ender2070the only thing im concerned with for source based or arch style distros is networkmanagerOct 03 03:03
Ender2070i've never set it up manually beforeOct 03 03:03
Ender2070hardware wise though, gentoo would fly :DOct 03 03:04
Ender2070quad core 3.0ghzOct 03 03:04
Ender20704gb ram, etcOct 03 03:04
WireWulflunar would fly too :POct 03 03:04
WireWulfas you compiles the kernel your selfOct 03 03:04
Ender2070what does lunar do for updates?Oct 03 03:04
WireWulfdoesnt asfar as i have seenOct 03 03:05
Ender2070ohOct 03 03:05
WireWulfyou have to use the package manager xcalled lunarOct 03 03:05
Ender2070gentoo at least has portageOct 03 03:05
WireWulfto get recompiled packagesOct 03 03:05
WireWulfbut i havent used lunar the package manager yetOct 03 03:05
Ender2070portage automatically updates your software by downloading and recompiling newer versions of software you have installedOct 03 03:06
WireWulfI didnt like compile gentoo in stages thoOct 03 03:06
Ender2070'emerge -uDav world' will do everythingOct 03 03:06
Ender2070im thinking ill just grab calculate linuxOct 03 03:06
Ender2070its gentoo based but easier to installOct 03 03:07
WireWulfmay grab it meselfOct 03 03:07
WireWulfbut i do love my tinycoreOct 03 03:07
Ender2070ill install it and tweak itOct 03 03:07
Ender2070sabayon is also gentoo based, heavily optimized for media and gaming, includes proprietary video driversOct 03 03:08
Ender2070easy install tooOct 03 03:08
WireWulfsabayon doesnt like my p4 too muchOct 03 03:08
Ender2070for gentoo though ill have to unlock kde 4.5Oct 03 03:08
Ender2070its not enabled for stableOct 03 03:08
Ender2070they even have Calculate Directory ServerOct 03 03:09
Ender2070a gentoo based server already setup for active directoryOct 03 03:09
Ender2070allows you to replace NT boxes :DOct 03 03:10
WireWulfNT :POct 03 03:14
xaphirsabayon with proprietary drivers.  I like it already.Oct 03 03:16
WireWulfsabayon is abit big thoOct 03 03:16
xaphirIs it?Oct 03 03:16
xaphirOh you are staying with a minimalist distro to work with the box you haveOct 03 03:17
WireWulfyeah something like thatOct 03 03:18
xaphirI stay away from gnome tho.Oct 03 03:20
WireWulfI like small distrosOct 03 03:20
xaphirme too actuallyOct 03 03:20
WireWulfi stay way from KDE and GNOMEOct 03 03:21
WireWulfI have tcl installed on a 4GB usb driveOct 03 03:22
WireWulfstill the standered flwm that it usesOct 03 03:22
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WireWulfwulfricfreawine odd name :POct 03 03:23
qu1j0t3sez WireWulfOct 03 03:24
qu1j0t3:POct 03 03:24
wulfricfreawinefrea=free&wine=friend in old anglo saxonOct 03 03:24
wulfricfreawineyou guys have awesome names like gnufreexOct 03 03:25
wulfricfreawinewould kill for that lolOct 03 03:25
*WireWulf is now known as CuanOct 03 03:25
Cuani wouldnt try itOct 03 03:25
Cuanspeaking of which Cuan = Irish frist name meaning young hound or houndOct 03 03:26
wulfricfreawineguess how many sites use mac os x server??Oct 03 03:26
wulfricfreawineabt irish i knowOct 03 03:26
Cuanwhos irish where?Oct 03 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oh dear. A friend showed me some of the latest nonsense @DeepakChopra said, I replied, and now he unleashes 300k+ sheep (followers) on meOct 03 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sorry for the off topic stuff, I just need to confront frauds whose teachings cost the lives of many innocent people with issuesOct 03 03:27
gnufreexwulfricfreawine: Funny, I regeted choice of nickname... it has bad pronunciationOct 03 03:27
Ender2070sabayon looks good actuallyOct 03 03:28
Ender20705.4Oct 03 03:28
gnufreexBut I am registered on many sites under this name. So it would be like nymshifting if I change itOct 03 03:28
wulfricfreawine@gnufreex you're welcomeOct 03 03:29
xaphirgnufreex: that's right.  it would be downright dishonestOct 03 03:29
wulfricfreawinenetstats says hosted on apache/linux Weird eh?Oct 03 03:30
CuanyupOct 03 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Always in good company, huh ? Either M$'s fanboys or mobbysts and now new friends... ;-)Oct 03 03:30
wulfricfreawinemaybe someone should mention it in their marketing material 'Good enuf for u , just not good enough for us, Love Steve Jobs'Oct 03 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith yes, I blame @qu1j0t3 for daring me to challenge the quack with a linkOct 03 03:32
gnufreexwulfricfreawine: OSX is completely broken platform for servers. Not suprising Apple not using it.Oct 03 03:33
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Site report for .::. Size~: 9.38 KBOct 03 03:34
gnufreexIt looks like Apple is not hosting on its own. It says Akamai 03 03:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Akamai: The Leader in Web Application Acceleration and Performance Management, Streaming Media Services and Content Delivery .::. Size~: 37.03 KBOct 03 03:36
qu1j0t3gnufreex: right, they have used Akamai for nearly 10 yrsOct 03 03:36
qu1j0t3actually longerOct 03 03:36
qu1j0t3now that i think about itOct 03 03:36
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gnufreexThey are not inovative. They use other peopleOct 03 03:42
gnufreexserversOct 03 03:42
gnufreex... that would be Apple fanboy logicOct 03 03:42
gnufreexHad to lolOct 03 03:42
Cuanfanboi logicOct 03 03:43
qu1j0t3well, it's a CDN. not everybody is in the CDN business.Oct 03 03:44
qu1j0t3i am sure they don't make their own air conditioners, either.Oct 03 03:45
qu1j0t3or carpets. or staplers...Oct 03 03:45
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CuanI made my own tesla coilOct 03 03:46
Cuangot shockeOct 03 03:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Amanhã será o grande circo da democracia, onde os palhaços somos nós. Lembrem-se políticos só querem melhorar a vida deles, não a suaOct 03 03:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Como o melhor não existe, votem com suas consciências nos menos piores.Oct 03 03:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] !lca2011 presents our highly esteemed third keynote speaker; Geoff Huston! - Chief Scientist at APNIC!!!Oct 03 04:00
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dyfetHere is an article that was missed which I just encountered and is so relevant today...Oct 03 04:02
dyfet 03 04:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama-FBI-Microsoft collusion: warrantless snooping on the Internet. - Houston Homeland Security | .::. Size~: 94.76 KBOct 03 04:02
dyfetMicrosoft's new slogan - who do you want to spy on today? ;)Oct 03 04:03
dyfetMy favorite quote from this story "The fact is both the administration and Microsoft are already betraying the public."Oct 03 04:04
qu1j0t3no shitOct 03 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Minnesota's deal with Microsoft to use BPOS prevents the state from using any open source, Slashdot asserts: 03 04:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Minnesota Moving To Microsoft's Cloud .::. Size~: 142.14 KBOct 03 04:05
qu1j0t3it's greatly helpful to govts to have a monocultureOct 03 04:05
dyfetIt is also this claim I found interesting: "Back in 2008, Microsoft provided the U.S. government a technical “backdoor” to its browser..."Oct 03 04:13
xaphiryeah before that there was a backdoor to the os itself.Oct 03 04:14
xaphirthe No Such Agency had the keys to that doorOct 03 04:14
xaphiroh yeah, they still doOct 03 04:14
dyfetWell, I wonder if one has to go through such trouble to create a backdoor, the front one is so wide open ;)Oct 03 04:15
xaphirIt's not that hard to close it, it's just that they never wanted it closed.Oct 03 04:15
xaphirthat's why they weren't broken up like Ma BellOct 03 04:15
xaphirthe judge was under the thumb of the powers that be.  So they got off with a hand slapOct 03 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] A Arte De Enganar O Eleitor! 03 04:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Arte De Enganar O Eleitor! .::. Size~: 59.75 KBOct 03 04:17
Chips_B_Malroyno, they contributed to the bush campaign, is why another judge got appointed to the caseOct 03 04:17
xaphirthe first judge was going to bust them up, so the gov stepped in and saved their azzOct 03 04:17
Chips_B_Malroythanks to BushOct 03 04:18
xaphirGates is a democrat.Oct 03 04:19
Chips_B_Malroyend result was the monopoly was valudated by the govOct 03 04:19
xaphirwell, I think the reasons went deeper than any campaign funds.  I think the roots were in No Such Agency and the Company.Oct 03 04:20
Chips_B_Malroyand Gates, is many thingsOct 03 04:20
schestowitzGates is pro-powerOct 03 04:20
schestowitzWhatever the political sideOct 03 04:20
schestowitzWhatever keeps him in powerOct 03 04:21
Chips_B_Malroymost of them evilOct 03 04:21
xaphirRecon is more important than monopoly law, in their viewOct 03 04:21
dyfetI am just curious how that story got missed :)Oct 03 04:21
schestowitzHe can fund both sides to ensure that no matter who wins the election, he too will winOct 03 04:21
xaphirI didn't miss itOct 03 04:21
xaphirdyfet: 03 04:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TP: How NSA access was built into Windows .::. Size~: 30.11 KBOct 03 04:28
xaphirsomebody is keeping up.Oct 03 04:28
xaphiroh it just reads the title of the urlOct 03 04:28
dyfetThe NSA story is much older and well known.  This was very new....Oct 03 04:29
xaphiryou mean the warrantless internet wiretapping?Oct 03 04:31
dyfetyesOct 03 04:31
xaphiryeah, well that's why they need to be voted out in novemberOct 03 04:32
dyfetthe problem is that there is nobody useful offered to vote "in"Oct 03 04:32
xaphirthere's plenty if you look. tea party candidates are all over the place and are winning pretty muchOct 03 04:33
Chips_B_Malroythey are all running on the party of HooverOct 03 04:33
Chips_B_Malroylets cut spendingOct 03 04:33
Chips_B_Malroyexcept for the banks which will need to be bailed out as soon as the elections are over.  Both parties will do it btwOct 03 04:34
xaphirwhen the career politicians get purged, then there will be some positive changes.Oct 03 04:35
xaphirterm limits would be niceOct 03 04:36
Chips_B_Malroybut for the vanishing middle class there will not be a bailoutOct 03 04:37
xaphirthey employ saul alinski strategies in order to vanish the middle classOct 03 04:38
Chips_B_Malroycutting spending during the 'great recessions' as its being called, will not put more people back to work.  It will make things worse.Oct 03 04:38
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xaphirI think cutting taxes will put people back to work.  the bailouts that they just had are going to be used to elect socialist democrats with smear campaigns against new bloodOct 03 04:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Evidence That Bill Gates’ Destructive Hijack of the Education System is About Control and Microsoft Indoctrination 03 04:40
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xaphirGovernment spending has nothing to do with individual freedoms, it has to do with shoring up soft tyranny until it becomes hard tyranny. aka saul alinski type strategiesOct 03 04:42
dyfetschestowitz: I am still curious what the issue was with gnu sites being ?blocked?, I kept loosing connectivity here so I never found out what that was aboutOct 03 04:42
schestowitzSome people replied to me, blaming certOct 03 04:42
schestowitzI am working on an article citing you nowOct 03 04:42
schestowitzI have severalOct 03 04:42
dyfetMaybe I should blush ;)Oct 03 04:42
schestowitzLost time replying to like 50 'sheep' of Chopra, who unleashed his many followers onto meOct 03 04:43
dyfetcert...hmm...I recall a lot of gnu sites use self signed certificatesOct 03 04:43
qu1j0t3why would ppl be coming to techrights via ssl?Oct 03 04:45
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Chips_B_Malroy"Tehran this week secretly appealed to a number of computer security experts in West and East Europe with offers of handsome fees for consultations on ways to exorcize the Stuxnet worm spreading havoc through the computer networks and administrative software of its most important industrial complexes and military command centers. debkafile's intelligence and Iranian sources report Iran turned for outside help after localOct 03 04:59
Chips_B_Malroycomputer experts failed to remove the destructive virus."Oct 03 04:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Just blogged that I'll be denting summaries of summaries of academic articles as @acamako. 03 05:00
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Chips_B_Malroy"The impression debkafile sources gained Wednesday, Sept. 29 from talking to European computer experts approached for aid was that the Iranians are getting desperate. Not only have their own attempts to defeat the invading worm failed, but they made matters worse: The malworm became more aggressive and returned to the attack on parts of the systems damaged in the initial attack."Oct 03 05:01
Chips_B_Malroy"While Tehran has given out several conflicting figures on the systems and networks struck by the malworm - 30,000 to 45,000 industrial units - debkafile's sources cite security experts as putting the figure much higher, in the region of millions. If this is true, then this cyber weapon attack on Iran would be the greatest ever. "Oct 03 05:03
Chips_B_Malroyand of course, stuxnet only runs on Windows.Oct 03 05:04
qu1j0t3why does iran use windows in the first place?Oct 03 05:04
Chips_B_Malroybecause malware and windows go togeatherOct 03 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I got to say, The Definitive Postfix Guide was a good investement just for nights like this one when I have to tweak its config.Oct 03 05:05
qu1j0t3oh well there's a lesson in this for Iran, and Russia, and anyone else watching.Oct 03 05:05
Chips_B_MalroyNot to use windows is the lession, but I doubt they have learned it yetOct 03 05:08
Chips_B_Malroythey will just have to learn the hard wayOct 03 05:09
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: that's what I said, in different words. This *is* the hard way.Oct 03 05:10
qu1j0t3if we believe the paste above.Oct 03 05:10
Chips_B_Malroymaybe once they fix that, Obama could ask Ballmer to pull the kill switch in windows for Iran?Oct 03 05:10
qu1j0t3but i don't believe it literally.Oct 03 05:10
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: no, Iran will change to avoid windows. the risk is crystal clear now.Oct 03 05:10
qu1j0t3and not just to them.Oct 03 05:10
Chips_B_Malroynot only is there a remued NSA backdoor, there is also a kill switchOct 03 05:11
qu1j0t3doesn't affect me.Oct 03 05:11
qu1j0t3and won't affect iran, soon :DOct 03 05:11
Chips_B_Malroymore than just WGA kill switchOct 03 05:11
Chips_B_Malroyor maybe that kill switch is just plain buggy code?Oct 03 05:11
qu1j0t3the ppl behind this are caring less and less about covering their tracksOct 03 05:11
qu1j0t3they won't get a 2nd chanceOct 03 05:12
Chips_B_Malroy"<qu1j0t3> Chips_B_Malroy: no, Iran will change to avoid windows. the risk is crystal clear now."  I doubt it, they are locked in with Bill's magic lockin using Pirated MS software.Oct 03 05:13
Chips_B_Malroyand whoever sold them industrial software running on windows, took themOct 03 05:14
Chips_B_Malroythat is the hard part to change, not the OSOct 03 05:14
Chips_B_Malroybut more likely Iran insisted on industrial software running on windows.  They better hope it works on wine, lolOct 03 05:15
Chips_B_Malroyand we better hope it doesn'tOct 03 05:15
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: no, they're not locked in.Oct 03 05:16
Chips_B_Malroyand who is going write their new industrial software now, with all the santions on them?Oct 03 05:16
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: Iranians are a bit savvier than their Russian helpers. Russians still love windows, but after this, maybe they'll start to think.Oct 03 05:16
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: there are no sanctions on linux, etc.Oct 03 05:16
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: Russia is doing a lot of this reactor and military work in Iran. Has done for decades.Oct 03 05:17
Chips_B_Malroythey will have to do it all by themselvesOct 03 05:17
qu1j0t3no.Oct 03 05:17
qu1j0t3they have access to many countries' expertise.Oct 03 05:17
qu1j0t3iran is very well connected in europe and eastern europe, and middle east.Oct 03 05:17
dyfetThey have GNU/Linux distributions built within Iran, like ParduxOct 03 05:17
qu1j0t3yes, logically so.Oct 03 05:18
Chips_B_Malroythis is not software that most people can writeOct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: they have access to a huge expertise pool.Oct 03 05:18
Chips_B_Malroythe OS yes, its out thereOct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3sanctions are meaningless, in this area.Oct 03 05:18
Chips_B_Malroybut not the industrial control softwareOct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3piece of cake.Oct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: remember Iran trades with all the competent nationsOct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3Chips_B_Malroy: Germany, Russia, etc.Oct 03 05:18
Chips_B_Malroyis it Siemans the company that makes the hardwareOct 03 05:18
qu1j0t3Siemens is suffering considerable embarrassment at this point. They'll be making this good.Oct 03 05:19
Chips_B_Malroyso you need people that are familar with the siemans hardware as well as being able to write softwareOct 03 05:19
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qu1j0t3of courseOct 03 05:19
qu1j0t3all these people are available...Oct 03 05:19
Chips_B_Malroythat narrows it downOct 03 05:19
qu1j0t3not to mention Siemens themselves have considerable interest in rectifying this.Oct 03 05:19
qu1j0t3it's a global embarrassment for them.Oct 03 05:20
Chips_B_Malroyits been going for awhileOct 03 05:20
qu1j0t3you can bet a lot of people are finally figuring out what ppl have been warning about for decadesOct 03 05:20
qu1j0t3about monocultureOct 03 05:20
qu1j0t3and using windows in completely inappropriate areasOct 03 05:21
qu1j0t3comp.risksOct 03 05:21
qu1j0t3has been talking about this for yearsOct 03 05:21
qu1j0t3they've long predicted stuxnetOct 03 05:21
Chips_B_Malroyits should not be so much an embarrasment for Siemens as for Microsoft Windows.Oct 03 05:21
qu1j0t3bothOct 03 05:21
Chips_B_MalroyThat is where the fault lies.Oct 03 05:21
qu1j0t3China will also be watching this. They must have suffered from this worm as well.Oct 03 05:22
Chips_B_Malroyits a worm, it will spreadOct 03 05:22
Chips_B_MalroyWindows is a malware magnetOct 03 05:22
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qu1j0t3yes.Oct 03 05:23
qu1j0t3and anyone who specifies it in mission critical areas is incompetentOct 03 05:24
Chips_B_Malroys6 is badOct 03 05:28
Chips_B_Malroydoing nowOct 03 05:28
Chips_B_Malroylatter gn e1Oct 03 05:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Federal Motors and Federal Microsoft Microsoft shrewdly resorts to steps which make the government Microsoft dependentOct 03 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientists crack Ptolemy's naming scheme, finally understand one of the most accurate maps of old Germany ever !scienceOct 03 06:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes !Wordpress users welcome the Live Spaces refugee's.They can all thank Linux powered Wordpress for its generosity !linuxOct 03 06:17
schestowitzcubevector: the IP that hammered on you is from sbcglobal.netOct 03 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] running SqueezeBox server in Beijing and Apeldoorn... now trying SqueezePlay on my #Maemo devices and #MeeGoOct 03 06:33
tessier 03 06:35
tessierI had no idea zeus was so sneakyOct 03 06:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ZeuS on the Hunt - Securelist .::. Size~: 41.99 KBOct 03 06:35
tessierIt steals security certs like driving signing private certs etc.Oct 03 06:35
tessierAnd apparently send them to the stuxnet authors who use them to get drivers loaded without warnings.Oct 03 06:35
tessierEvery time you click the left mouse button zeus takes a screenshot and sends it to someone? Holy cow.Oct 03 06:35
tessierAnd over 3.6M computers in the US were infected with Zeus in 2009. Use Linux or buy a Mac.Oct 03 06:36
sebsebsebtessier: oh your on about a virus?Oct 03 06:36
tessierYesOct 03 06:36
sebsebsebtessier: yes I think I read something about that one or something breifOct 03 06:36
sebsebseband yep some really nasty malware for WindowsOct 03 06:36
sebsebseb,but yet most computer users use itOct 03 06:36
sebsebsebsince all the ignoranceOct 03 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #BrokenSword Director's Cut runs fine on #Wine :-)... do hope a #ScummVM option will become available 03 06:37
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sebsebsebtessier: Mac OS X would be malware target number two thoughOct 03 06:37
tessierIt is a much harder target.Oct 03 06:38
sebsebsebWhy since it is Unix like?Oct 03 06:38
qu1j0t3mainly.Oct 03 06:38
qu1j0t3also, microsoft has few incentives to secure windows.Oct 03 06:39
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: well they don't really need to work on making it really secure, because legally they don't have to, and loads of people are going to be buying it anywayOct 03 06:39
qu1j0t3right.Oct 03 06:39
qu1j0t3they're disconnected from the market.Oct 03 06:39
tessierThus, my advice...Oct 03 06:39
qu1j0t3and 'windows rot' makes throwing the pc out and buying a new one, a profitable outcomeOct 03 06:40
qu1j0t3the status quo works nicely for them. based on ignorance and the tyranny of low expectations.Oct 03 06:40
sebsebseband even those that pirate Windows, are still helping with its market share, even though some or many of them may not think soOct 03 06:40
sebsebsebwell assuming they use it enough anywayOct 03 06:40
schestowitz[00:40] <qu1j0t3> "GODS WITH CHEQUEBOOKS" (I shit you not)  > Melinda is a GOD.................................................. to the Guardian anyway, cause she bribed them with her checkbookOct 03 06:41
qu1j0t3it's a lazy defaultOct 03 06:41
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sebsebsebqu1j0t3: the Windows rot is a bad thing for the environemntOct 03 06:41
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: yes, it certainly us.Oct 03 06:41
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: is*Oct 03 06:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh your still around?Oct 03 06:41
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: Microsoft is a HUGE contributor to wasteOct 03 06:41
schestowitzCatching up w/ 1amOct 03 06:41
sebsebsebwhats w/ ?Oct 03 06:41
qu1j0t3with*Oct 03 06:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: Have you slept?Oct 03 06:42
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: indeedOct 03 06:42
schestowitz<qu1j0t3> sebsebseb: Microsoft is a HUGE contributor to wasteOct 03 06:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yeah i didn't see that article until now. I'm still stunned.Oct 03 06:42
schestowitzGates is now an invetor in Waaste managementOct 03 06:42
schestowitz(The company)Oct 03 06:42
schestowitzWIth fraud and allOct 03 06:42
schestowitzThey love conglemeratesOct 03 06:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yet another borrowing from the MafiaOct 03 06:42
schestowitzThis one has ~50k employeesOct 03 06:43
sebsebsebtessier: yeah even Ubuntu, people are way better off using that than Windows, and yes other distros loads of them :)Oct 03 06:43
schestowitz[00:44] <_Goblin> *analistsOct 03 06:45
schestowitzAnal listsOct 03 06:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: hes not here anymoreOct 03 06:45
schestowitzWhen Microsoft needs support and some arse kissing for its products it picks some anal listsOct 03 06:45
schestowitz[00:51] <sebsebseb> 03 06:47
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schestowitz"Hackers in Eastern Europe would use spam email to infect computers of small businesses and individuals in the US with a virus known as Zeus, the FBI said in a statement. "Oct 03 06:47
schestowitzMSBBC forgets to say "WINDOWS virus"Oct 03 06:47
qu1j0t3as usualOct 03 06:47
qu1j0t3even /. forgetsOct 03 06:47
schestowitzIf it only affected Solaris they would say soOct 03 06:47
schestowitzMicrosoft gets the free pass, like it's a religion not to be offenderOct 03 06:47
schestowitz*dedOct 03 06:47
schestowitz"I hold the right to be offender because [x]"Oct 03 06:48
schestowitz*dedOct 03 06:48
sebsebsebschestowitz: as useual they don't say crackers as wellOct 03 06:49
sebsebsebor blackhats evenOct 03 06:49
sebsebsebor even cyber criminals to get rid of the wrong useage of hackersOct 03 06:50
Diablo-D3[01:45:19] <schestowitz> MSBBC forgets to say "WINDOWS virus"Oct 03 06:52
Diablo-D3because thats redundantOct 03 06:52
Diablo-D3only windows gets virusesOct 03 06:52
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schestowitz[01:45] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] do these Uni fees include payments to the various IP rights holders for unproven infringements? 03 06:56
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schestowitzGood thing I got mine while it was still a lot cheaperOct 03 06:56
schestowitzThe US has insane tuition feesOct 03 06:56
schestowitz[03:27] <gnufreex> wulfricfreawine: Funny, I regeted choice of nickname... it has bad pronunciationOct 03 07:02
schestowitznew freaks?Oct 03 07:02
schestowitz[04:59] <Chips_B_Malroy> computer experts failed to remove the destructive virus."Oct 03 07:06
schestowitzcomputer experts or WINDOWS 'experts'?Oct 03 07:06
schestowitz[05:04] <qu1j0t3> why does iran use windows in the first place?Oct 03 07:06
schestowitzTyrannies think alike?Oct 03 07:06
schestowitz[05:17] <dyfet> They have GNU/Linux distributions built within Iran, like ParduxOct 03 07:07
schestowitzThere are economic sanctions to prevent them from getting computer chipsOct 03 07:07
schestowitzWhich is silly cause they can 'smuggle' CPUs through Russia or closer neighboursOct 03 07:08
qu1j0t3schestowitz: as I mentioned earlier, Russian tech/engineering/mil exchange with Iran is extensive, and has been happening for decadesOct 03 07:09
qu1j0t3schestowitz: besides, 'sanctions' against the Soviet in tech area did not work either.Oct 03 07:09
qu1j0t3schestowitz: during the Cold War, you could get whatever you wanted there, just the price went up.Oct 03 07:10
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and they famously cloned the major architectures anywayOct 03 07:10
qu1j0t3'sanctions' are great at keeping basic stuff like medical out, but hopeless at keeping tech and engineering out.Oct 03 07:11
qu1j0t3and everybody knows itOct 03 07:11
qu1j0t3it's just posturing to lay the usual feeble groundwork for military actionOct 03 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Simple and yet very useful This is why !Linux is better then !Mac and a good link to show a user in doubt !FedoraOct 03 07:23
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schestowitz" Does the !FSF or !SFLC have a position on the use of a Computer Science background to qualify for the Patent Bar? "Oct 03 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Appears to be Lying as It Approaches Its SCO-esque Death !microsoft !windows !xp !mvp !mvpbuzzOct 03 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] George: "I'm an American. I'm innocent", Officer: "Can't make up your mind, uh!" - #BrokenSword !qOct 03 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @appelond Simple and yet very useful This is why !Linux is better then !Mac and a good link to show a user 03 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @harishpillay Thanks ;-)Oct 03 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Donald Duck Discovers #GlennBeck in "Right Wing Radio Duck" 03 08:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Classroom: Announcing the First #locoteams Day Event 03 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org Server 1.9.1 Is Approaching; RC1 Released: Under the release management of Apple's Jeremy Huddleston, the fi... 03 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Had a good time at a party with family friends, now it's time turn in for the night.Oct 03 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Dzone: Ubuntu 10.10: Steady Progress for Maverick - 03 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz More Evidence That Bill Gates’ Destructive Hijack of the Education System is About Control and Microsoft Indoctrination ...Oct 03 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz MSBBC - a pathetic excuse for "news" ever since the company so clearly took on board many Microsoft UK managers (entryis ...Oct 03 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz RT @thistleweb On the same day, from the same site [MSBBC], "Android apps sharing your data" more ...Oct 03 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #HP Very Likely to Turn More Hostile Towards !GNU !Linux poisoned by Apotheker from "Microsoft of E ...Oct 03 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crunch Time at AOL - Google "will buy a big journalistic organization"; certainly hope not #google #contentOct 03 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: Kew Gardens, Autumn - ah, Lunnon #pix #london #autumnOct 03 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: The Second Demolition: Ayodhya Judgement September 30, 2010: 03 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Mobile SMS Spammers are in full swing after revoking the ban . Received 6+ spam messages in last 30 minutes #AyodhyaVerdict #SpamOct 03 09:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Sintel is out - "short film to further improve and validate the free/open source 3D creation suite #Blender" #ccOct 03 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Voelt zich geprikkeld om iets te zeggen over gebruik van .doc documenten bij aanhalen van open data maar beslist het voor zich te houdenOct 03 09:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] found an excellent Podiobook "A different point of view" - Stormtroopers reports #StarWarsOct 03 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dev in need of general help with FF add on which replaces ads with art. Specifically noscript conflict. !firefox !fsOct 03 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Study: select Android apps sharing data without user notification. !replicant !fsfOct 03 10:33
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oiaohm  Here comes the MS FUD.Oct 03 10:41
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oiaohmStrange that this appears just after Windows moblie 7 get annonced and not before.Oct 03 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @graziano: It's Microsoft FUD, watch out MSBBCOct 03 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @graziano: 03 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Context was movement of microsofties to other companies. Represented as almost always -ve not mixed and complicated issue. imhoOct 03 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Check the disclosure "Windows, Microsoft, Windows" of course he doesn't get linux, his income relies on not getting it 03 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] It is odd that a blog called "Microsoft Report" is a poison pen piece to diss a competitor to Microsoft, oh and isn't Win 7 phone out soon?Oct 03 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, "competitor" is VERY generous, MS are dead in the mobile phone space without even a blip on the heart monitorOct 03 11:03
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oiaohm  Nice articalOct 03 11:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] hmm a "light" Peppermint Ice uses 78mb just for the LXPanel to idle in live mode WTF? My entire Debian XFCE install inc panel idles at 85mbOct 03 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] On my way to chennai! After giving 'xox' to mama and papa.Oct 03 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @danishka: if #twitter ~ #Microsoft then => !identica ~ !Linux (in terms on security)Oct 03 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] wishes supported encrypted connection.Oct 03 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Do you use !tpb? Install !EFF's #HTTPSEverywhere & add tpb ruleset 03 12:17
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schestowitz"RT @razvansandu: RT @schestowitz: RT @thistleweb "Android apps sharing your data" - one more reason #symbian is my fav."!/silviuvulcan/status/26257227754Oct 03 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu thanks, got itOct 03 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Checking for updates often will just add to the insomnia, specially if you have no other contact with anyone 03 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OOXML Patent Lock-up Teaches #Microsoft and Others That Software Patents Hurt #odf #swpats #usptoOct 03 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There are only 2 computer services I am willing to do for free for anyone; 1 is installing Linux, the other is deleting Facebook accountsOct 03 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Details Needed About New #RedHat - #Acacia Patent Settlement #swpats #SoftwareTreeLLC #Microsoft / cc @jwildeboerOct 03 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: I certainly agree :), but promoting FOSS is more desirable in non-FOSS mediums. You must be among THEM...Oct 03 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gnumaniac: I can't believe how good this program is, it's now on my daily pipeline, works on !linux btw. 03 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] P2P Backed Film Platform to Reward Influencers - *very* interesting development: the future? #influence #economicsOct 03 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A little bit of federated Open Notebook Science - beautiful demonstration of the power of #openness #scienceOct 03 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My So-called Virtual Life: M$ Rumor lolz - 03 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Kiwi Linux 10.08, a distro that targets #Romania and #Hungary #gnu #linux #kiwi #freesoftwareOct 03 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching One Piece 469 !animeOct 03 14:33
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MadRobotSalam all.Oct 03 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] "We'll circle around the earth to increase our boost…" Servo: "& we'll collect mushrooms & gold coins to win extra men later." #MST3K S02E01Oct 03 14:35
MadRobotanybody there?Oct 03 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista Phone 7 [sic] is Dead on Arrival, So #Microsoft Resorts to Chill Attack on !Linux / #Android #swpats #FUD #mobileOct 03 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Top Legal Experts Explore Reforms to Copyright Law - sadly, looks defensive and rather timid #copyrightOct 03 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BBC Cannot Call out #Windows The BBC still seems unable to call viruses what they really areOct 03 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GCC 4.4.5 Brings Bug-Fixes: While GCC 4.5 has been around since this past April, if you are still living with GCC ... 03 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @gregkh {sigh} Microsoft's FAT filename patents used as a bludgeon again.Oct 03 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ...Oct 03 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Finding info on #IE's Accept-Encoding is messed up because too many people mistype SDHC into SDCH… damn!Oct 03 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Future plans for #Microsoft #Romania 03 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Watch and contribute to LibreOffice in real time: 03 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz How do we trust Android programmes without becoming authoritarian. I have no trust in the ones I have installed.Oct 03 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #BBC Cannot Call out #Windows The BBC still seems unable to call viruses what they really areOct 03 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Top Legal Experts Explore Reforms to Copyright Law - sadly, looks defensive and rather timid #copyrightOct 03 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Some of the Usonian golfers look like West Ham or Villa supporters. #RydercupOct 03 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] So who is waching the Commonwealth Games? I sure can't as I don't think it get televised in the USOct 03 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera but not the platform is the problem. It can guard against security issues (e.g. sandbox), but hard to prevent malicious phone homeOct 03 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents - 03 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @nmudgal First tweet by twitterfeed. second with # hashtag added. 03 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RD @eightyeight: one thing i wish !identica would adopt is opening links in new pages. seriously frustrating.Oct 03 15:42
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data_provideroiaohm gave you link to wrong Acacia suit againt redhat. The one you want is: 03 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: This is my point. I am only comfortable if the source is available so that all those with the knowledge can keep them honestOct 03 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: In some ways Android programmes are as bad as randomly downloaded MS programmes.Oct 03 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn plenty will take free (cost) and not pay, but plenty will pay even if they dont have to, to reward the effort, just like musicOct 03 15:47
amd-linuxFrom the rumour mill:, Germany's largest tabloid, is speculating that Micro-Soft will swallow Nokia:Oct 03 15:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn it has to be a more profitable enterprise than fighting a losing battle suing your fans and making yourself obscureOct 03 15:48
amd-linuxHeadline is: Nokia: the fall of the Mobile giant - now a takeover by Microsoft is loomingOct 03 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bkuhn the bottom line is that people are gonna share it anyway, & break the DRM if needed, go with it, use it to promote & spread the wordOct 03 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn why the distinction between software and fiction - related to your argument at ?Oct 03 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think it's consistent: rules for entertainment don't matter, rules for art do,but such can reasonably be different from softwareOct 03 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think software is art.Oct 03 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think there are artistic aspects to software & other science, but I think it falls more on the "utility" end of spectrum mostly.Oct 03 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Took Evie out last night to do some stargazing. Saw a spectacular Jupiter and four of its moons, big hit with her!Oct 03 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I have, like many a !Perl hacker, written bad poetry that parses in perl4 & thought it was cool at the time. But such is rare.Oct 03 16:00
qu1j0t3talk about missing the point... or is that a deliberate joke?Oct 03 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fontana software, like music, fiction etc is replicable in an instant after it's created, art is a one off creationOct 03 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The USA telly station whose copyright I am infringing has limited hole coverage, does golf charge to broadcast by the hole?Oct 03 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] They cover the same few holes as the players come through and I do not know what the rest look like.Oct 03 16:10
ThistleWeblol, I wondered where lefty spouted his bullshit, I just found him on identicaOct 03 16:11
ThistleWebit does make you wonder why his employer would want indexed with someone like thatOct 03 16:12
ThistleWebhe does seem to have a primary school level crush on you though, unable to tell you he fancies you he just pulls your pigtails ate every chance in the hopes thatyou'll know what he meansOct 03 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The punters are just starting to stake their places at the 18th.Oct 03 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Sonic Creator Yuji Naka Dreaming of Dreamcast 2 03 16:17
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_GoblinThistleWeb: He sometimes comments on my be fair, he's always been polite.Oct 03 16:17
ThistleWebI only saw the @lefty name in a discussion between fab and bradly khun and thought "I wonder" and it wasOct 03 16:18
_Goblinoh and sorry.....Hello everyoneOct 03 16:18
ThistleWebhe does seem to have a rather unheathy obsession with roy, always trying to strike up an argument, with ender tooOct 03 16:18
ThistleWebit's one thing to take issue with something someone says, but he does seem to have a habit of looking for any excuse to snipe back and try to provokeOct 03 16:19
ThistleWebit's like either an obsession or his jobOct 03 16:21
ThistleWebor bothOct 03 16:21
ThistleWeb"I oppose everything you say even before you speak and I know what it is"Oct 03 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chances are it will be all square at the end of play or Europe will be one shot up. Chaos theory may interfere with my Delphism.Oct 03 16:22
ThistleWebI even agree with MS on some points.....well, when they say "don't use Apple stuff"Oct 03 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @thistleweb I assume you must mean "art" in a very narrow sense (non-digital visual art?).Oct 03 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera yes, just as bad. #Google chose to avoid a lot of GPL (and GPLv3) to give wiggling space and make room to DRM & many other nastiesOct 03 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think software is both utilitarian and artistic. Not sure why non-utilitarian == okay for author to monopolize commercializationOct 03 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz I am glad I am worried about the right things :)Oct 03 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,some do think there's no difference. I just don't understand commercial models around art enough to say for sure it *must* be !FreeOct 03 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ...Oct 03 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I don't understand commercial models around software :-)Oct 03 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ...Oct 03 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fontana that's a point, art is about interpretation, it's different for everyone who experiences it, a program doesn't do thatOct 03 16:33
schestowitzRichard Stallman foresaw such issues. Even before apps could "phone home" he told us all that true control of code is essential.Oct 03 16:35
schestowitzIn #Romania , “Marketing and !GNU !Linux #FUD is Everything for #Microsoft ”; Latest Propaganda Comes From Călin Tatomir 03 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Most probably, I have the hardest week of my life behind me... I hope the next week will be lighter.Oct 03 16:38
schestowitz"Windows insecurity is an industry. Lots of people selling add-ons around it."!/fcassia/status/26267850750Oct 03 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @razvansandu: ♺ @eLiberatica: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents - 03 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] another fight against rights holders, this time the Premier League over decoder cards in pubs Sky's extortionate ratesOct 03 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Blender foundation releases open source movie Sintel - created using 3D rendering !foss software: 03 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SUSE is Getting More Restricted and Virtualisation-centered Ahead of Expected Sale to VMB_ware #vnware #novell !linuxOct 03 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] in the 11 months since I registered, users have increased by 2.5xOct 03 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gnumaniac: I can't believe how good this program is, it's now on my daily pipeline, works on !linux btw. 03 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera My So-called Virtual Life: M$ Rumor lolz - 03 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mohanpram Hubble's Lagoon 03 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ...Oct 03 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @schestowitz: ♺ @gnumaniac: I can't believe how good this program is… #mypaint #pythonOct 03 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Disgruntled with Fedora - 03 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia: the fall of the Mobile giant - now a takeover by Microsoft is looming [de] #entryismOct 03 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #gwibber Not sure what today's !gwibber update fixes. Facebook and Buzz still not working Facebook not adding account and Buzz not fetching.Oct 03 17:37
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schestowitzMakes little senseOct 03 17:37
schestowitzNokia gets nothing of use from MicrosoftOct 03 17:37
schestowitzMicrosoft has no ashOct 03 17:37
schestowitzMicrosoft has no cash... not to buy a company its own sizeOct 03 17:37
schestowitzJust silly speculation IMHOOct 03 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [CORRECTED] Nokia: the fall of the Mobile giant - now a takeover by Microsoft is looming [de] #entryismOct 03 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Eight full-HD 1080p screens each supported by a dedicated Ubuntu server running Google Earth = Liquid Galaxy 03 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @segphault Don't like recent trend of FOSS devs collecting donation funding for projects before they start coding. Not a healthy way ...Oct 03 17:43
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schestowitz<ThistleWeb> he does seem to have a primary school level crush on you though, unable to tell you he fancies you he just pulls your pigtails ate every chance in the hopes thatyou'll know what he meansOct 03 17:45
schestowitzI don't think that's it. THe mobbyists generally are concerned about techrights. They promote proprietary software.Oct 03 17:45
schestowitzIf the mobbyists go as far as stalking IRC, then it means we do something OK and they are willing to waste hours per week trying to heckle people/activists, not massive corporations.Oct 03 17:46
schestowitz[16:18] <_Goblin> oh and sorry.....Hello everyoneOct 03 17:47
schestowitz_Goblin: the story many are missing is that the Motorola suit is bad for Microsoft too because it shows that Microsoft gave up on competingOct 03 17:47
schestowitzit hasn't even brought forth a product yet and it's already just TROLLING Android, just like ACCESS did.Oct 03 17:47
schestowitzLiMo is clinically deadOct 03 17:48
schestowitzAnd maybe that's why some of the mobbyists have been 'working overtime' (unemployed perhaps)Oct 03 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @toros but you posted some excellent articles this past week. I read all of themOct 03 17:52
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schestowitzHey, MadRobotOct 03 17:52
MadRobothiOct 03 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb responding to what you said earlier, if Freedom advocates are trolled by the proprietarists, it means they do something rightOct 03 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @aseigo - im jumping ship from Fedora, any recommendations? I'd like the best KDE distro, and I suspect you're using it :)Oct 03 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wow 9.5 to 6.5 to the EU that went improbably well. Let us hope it is an exciting and entertaining finish to the match,Oct 03 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 5 Things !Linux Does Better Than Mac OS X - PCWorld Business Center 03 18:00
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_Goblinschestowitz: sorry, wasn't ignoring, Im over in #steelstorm talking to the devsOct 03 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] wysunięty zwiad bojem. ryś będzie na Microsoft Technology Summit 2010 (wtorek-środa). :)Oct 03 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @schestowitz +1 #hatersgonahateOct 03 18:10
dyfetthe trolls are clearly out this weekend...Oct 03 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @schestowitz Thank you! I don't use bookmarks - when I see something interesting I immediately share it on identica. :)Oct 03 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: UK Law Firm Gallant Macmillan Taken Offline In Revenge Attacks !piracy !tpb !ddos !bittorrentOct 03 18:20
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schestowitzdyfet: which ones?Oct 03 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » Women Proved “Securest” in the Defcon Social Engineering Game - Blogger News Network 03 18:23
dyfetNot sure, I do not normally have trolls bother my posts...Oct 03 18:24
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dyfetBut they seem like the kind that regularly gang up elsewhereOct 03 18:24
schestowitzOh, I see...Oct 03 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Multilingual Web Workshop Program Published 03 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The teacher's talking a story of an early civil war in the Islamic history caused by false messages. I was like "if only they had !gpg " :-)Oct 03 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New: A collection of code snippets for the purpose of understanding the C programming language: 03 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Finally my homepage is ready, moved to permanent site - still so much to ... 03 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Perl program that creates an HTML page listing the contents of a directory: 03 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak The teacher's talking a story of an [...] caused by false messages. I was like "if only they had !gpg " :-) >Obama fights it nowOct 03 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak false messages how an invasion into #Iraq was sold to the public. British false intelligence about African uranium and all....Oct 03 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Perl program I wrote listing all the MP3s you've played & when they were last played, using the iTunes XML library: 03 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Do you like action #rpg #games ? Contribute to OSARE: !fsf !gnu !lp !lpitalia A free software Diablo soon?Oct 03 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Tory minister refers to previous government as "previous regime". An attempt at disparagement . "regime" should be more widely adoptedOct 03 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It negates the posturing for acting in a given way.Oct 03 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera this may also imply he views his own as a "Regime"Oct 03 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] For example.. The USA regime dropped nuclear bombs on 1000's of civilians. Or we could go for the leader of the free world ended war early.Oct 03 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] s/talking/telling/Oct 03 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Yes, you are absolutely right the cause of events and their later interpretation are normally missed by most including me.Oct 03 19:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ITworld review: !Ubuntu 10.10 scores close to a ten 03 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Dr Who David Tennant, enjoyed his reign on the whole but I really did not like his frequent shouting, don't believe me watch a few of themOct 03 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Frequently Asked Questions About Time Travel looks like a good movie, I should check it out sometimeOct 03 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Okay not frequent :) but it keeps happening.Oct 03 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Alright time to make some #chai!Oct 03 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Gallant Macmillan – site is down but 4chan not to blame? Who’s next? !tpb !piracy !bittorrentOct 03 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Capitalism as we know it is built on the once in a species bubble boom of fossil fuels, anyone know what the bust will look like? !greenOct 03 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes: Yes you had your eye on the discussion, my apologies for just having a bash on your blog.Oct 03 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Mobile Broadband on Linux - This wiki need your love - plz add your device or mail me - http://www.lug-... 03 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: finally got my #libreoffice install sorted out. havent gotten a chance to really play with it [tests this week :(]Oct 03 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Where does a meritocracy fit in with passing on wealth to kids and nepotism? Is the individual more important or the family or society?Oct 03 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is biology more important than any politics?Oct 03 19:55
qu1j0t3lulzOct 03 19:56
qu1j0t3wealth is more important than justiceOct 03 19:57
qu1j0t3and the untrammelled ability to kill anyone who disagrees with you is PRICELESS! rock on USAOct 03 19:57
MinceR:>Oct 03 19:58
MinceRlike they say, "America, FUCK YEAH!"Oct 03 19:58
qu1j0t3"We're going the wrong way!"   "Cool! HIT THE GAS!"Oct 03 19:58
hazzyLOL! I just read the post about Microsoft claiming to have bought 15 companiesOct 03 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @zoobab EFF letter to the US Supreme Court about software patents and binaries as prior art: 03 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Q: How do you know Microsoft is the next SCO? A: @horaciog gets promoted, people who actually _DO_ technology quit the companyOct 03 20:07
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they were teh LAST SCO, too.Oct 03 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] We need to fix all these positions? Guys, we got much to do to fix the cultural damage by these companies! !gnuOct 03 20:09
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schestowitzMobbyists unitOct 03 20:10
schestowitzMobbyists uniteOct 03 20:10
schestowitzOne days DUMP DROIDOct 03 20:10
schestowitzThe other says Google should pay Microsoft for Android and pretends to be a FOSS guyOct 03 20:10
WireWulfdump my brain cellsOct 03 20:10
WireWulfkill M$Oct 03 20:11
WireWulfand burn appleOct 03 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When did you stop beating your patent drum, @horaciog ? You know, there are careers that actually advance society rather than impede it.Oct 03 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @zoobab EFF letter to the US Supreme Court about software patents and binaries as prior art: 03 20:12
schestowitz[19:58] <MinceR> like they say, "America, FUCK YEAH!"Oct 03 20:13
schestowitzWho is Yeah?Oct 03 20:13
MinceR:>Oct 03 20:14
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I think @horaciog could use some proddingOct 03 20:14
schestowitzNobody inn Twitter even pays attention to himOct 03 20:14
schestowitzMaybe that's why he not only extorts (stealth) but sues (public)Oct 03 20:15
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schestowitz" zoobab: RT @mjasay: Hypocritical Microsoft sues over Android while pleading for support against i4i <Lame move @horaciog  "Oct 03 20:15
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schestowitz "eWEEK quotes IDC analyst: lawsuits "are beginning to throw doubts on [Android's] provenance" via @eWEEKNews"Oct 03 20:20
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schestowitzThe mobbyists quotes IDGOct 03 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mr. @DanaBlankenhorn still quotes #mobbyists who attack !Linux while pretending to like FOSS (like front group ACT). 03 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #mobbyists are busy this weekend smearing Android, spreading FUD, speaking to Microsoft mates who do the same ("why I dumped Droid")Oct 03 20:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The ridiculous thing is: In most cases they [Microsoft] are definitely not the first with their "invention"." !linuxOct 03 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FOSSpatents @edbott Welcome back // here we see one #mobbyist speaking to a Microsoft rep who attacks #Android ATM 03 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] "Europe should keep the internet open" and you can help: Pls spread the word!Oct 03 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Enlightenment Foundation Libraries 1.0 Hit Beta: At long last, the EFL (Enlightenment Foundation Libraries) have r... 03 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra "Europe should keep the internet open" and you can help: Pls spread the word!Oct 03 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera Appologies? Don't need them with me! :)Oct 03 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's the difference between property and so-called "IP"? One is restriction on the finite, the latter is man-made sociopathic decisionOct 03 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #DRM is just bad. Those of us who're lucky to know how far companies can go when we do nothing should act. !lo !dbdOct 03 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @SarahKSilverman: A fund has been set up for Greg Giraldo's 3 kids. Please RT. Thanks.Oct 03 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] It's a bit out of date, but I'm sure you can still contact your MEPs and explain them why this is bad for their constituents.Oct 03 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Editorial: For the umpteenth time, copy 'protection' only hurts people who actually buy your product -- Engadget .::. Size~: 67.92 KBOct 03 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In arts, scarcity is access to the artist; In software, execution and branding may help; limitation on the infinite implies selfishnessOct 03 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz What's the difference between property & "IP"? One is restriction on the finite, the latter is man-made sociopathic decisionOct 03 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @ruiseabra "Europe should keep the internet open" and you can help: Pls spread the word!Oct 03 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To the trolls who want to accuse me of hypocrisy, all my works were always freely shareable. Worked well for me and others I know who did itOct 03 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A thousand candles can be lighted from a single candle, yet the life of the candle is not shortened." {..}Oct 03 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] {..} "Happiness is never decreased by being shared." — Siddhārtha GautamaOct 03 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACS:Law Boss: I Feel Defeated And Could Go Bankrupt - and that was *before* the leak #acslawOct 03 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] UPDATE: It appears the new 4chan target is Ministry of Sound, previous article !tpb !piracy !bittorrentOct 03 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @sebinaj: Panchayati justice that takes away legal rights of Muslims: Rajeev Dhavan 03 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @fish_pond: QUESTIONING IS A CRIME NOW : Shabnam Hashmi #AyodhyaVerdict #hindutwaOct 03 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "With Oracle it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to make money." --James Gosling #scoracle #java #obstacle #swpatsOct 03 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Microsoft Sues Motorola Over Android !fsfe !april !gnuOct 03 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody hell. The Beeb just referred to the west as capitalist. About time, for those that doubt it I can give date and time and broadcast.Oct 03 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @royhugo: Microsoft Sues Motorola Over Android !fsfe !april !gnuOct 03 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] EFL goes beta! 03 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: "With Oracle it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to make money." --James Gosling #scoracle #java #obstacle #swpatsOct 03 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody ACS:Law Boss: I Feel Defeated And Could Go Bankrupt - >morally bankrupt and hopefully fully deflatedOct 03 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @nhi please remember to remove group tags when you redent.Oct 03 21:14
schestowitz;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20 "Researchers use TaintDroid tool to analyze potentially sensitive data collected from Android phones by a sample of apps."Oct 03 21:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This UK regime is still fudging over means tested benefits the same way that Ramsay Macdonald did. Can anyone identify the deserving poor?Oct 03 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @osamak yeah realized that after it was sent sorry about that.Oct 03 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Perhaps what we need is for profit work houses.Oct 03 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Great Disconnect: Scholars Without Libraries - "the marketplace of ideas is essentially a black market" #oaOct 03 21:25
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MinceRhayOct 03 21:47
twitternet applications nonsense, but interesting because they can't hide overall losses in Windows shareOct 03 21:47
twitterhelloOct 03 21:47
Ender2070the name of a canadian redhat forkOct 03 21:48
Ender2070Toque LinuxOct 03 21:48
Ender2070(doesnt exist, just an idea, lol)Oct 03 21:48
twitterit's also funny to see that after three or four years, they can't get Vista 7 onto more than one in five computers (vast over estimate)Oct 03 21:48
twitterIt's my opinion that most of the "Vista" computers are actually XP.Oct 03 21:49
twitterthe same is true of Windows 7, but I think most of those systems are sitting on shelves unsold.Oct 03 21:50
twitterbblOct 03 21:50
WireWulfumm XP was N5.x VISSTA is NT6.0.X and win7 is NT6.1.XOct 03 21:51
MinceRvista7 :>Oct 03 21:51
WireWulfMinceR: good pointOct 03 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Shared Color Profiles 0.1.2 03 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Another Record Month! GNOME Amazon Affiliate fees September 2010 03 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Unix Fork, Exec and Process control: 03 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I have to pay €100 for a 2:20 trainride to The Hague? Normally I pay €5 for a 3 hour ride to Hasselt #whatsTheDifference #EU #NMBSOct 03 22:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Dear Troll on my site: - Open Proxy Detection .. You'll have to try alot harder. I'm laughing at your feeble attempts. !failOct 03 23:00
qu1j0t3um.Oct 03 23:01
_GoblinTroll tries hard, troll fails....Oct 03 23:01
qu1j0t3got a reaction though, isn't that the objective?Oct 03 23:02
_Goblinnot yet it hasn'tOct 03 23:02
_GoblinI nearly missed my filter catching it...Oct 03 23:02
qu1j0t3by 'troll' do you mean 'bot'?Oct 03 23:03
_Goblinand the comment was nearly nuked....I had to manually save it to the text file to give the troll their freedom of speechOct 03 23:03
_Goblinno trollOct 03 23:03
_Goblinthis person, doesn't have a bot...Oct 03 23:03
*qu1j0t3 is utterly confused nowOct 03 23:03
_Goblinhe's a commenter on my site that tried to fill the comments with disgusting remarks.Oct 03 23:03
qu1j0t3is that unusual?Oct 03 23:04
qu1j0t3so it was filteredOct 03 23:04
_Goblinno.....Oct 03 23:04
_GoblinI don't filter people....exceptOct 03 23:04
_Goblinin his case he was so vulgar I had to move his comments to a separate file that I will publish with a warning.Oct 03 23:04
_GoblinI don't beleive in censorship so I don't have language filters, most people can behave like adults so its not a problem.Oct 03 23:05
qu1j0t3kOct 03 23:05
qu1j0t3what did you post that was so.. provocative?Oct 03 23:05
_GoblinI now just catch insecure proxies because he is too cowardly to post under his real ipOct 03 23:05
qu1j0t3hm.Oct 03 23:05
_Goblinand is provactive... need to make sure my proxy list is up to date....he helps me with that.Oct 03 23:06
_Goblinmy system is not perfect so I rely on him sending hundreds of posts to keep the blocker effective....Ive already had two other bloggers asking for the list...Oct 03 23:08
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Ender2070lolOct 03 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @BreakingNews: Verizon Wireless to pay up to $90 million in refunds to customers over data use charges - nytimes 03 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Operation Payback statement: !piracy !tpb !bittorrent !ddosOct 03 23:12
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schestowitz_Goblin: WANTEDOct 03 23:13
schestowitzThe crime: Linux advocacyOct 03 23:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: hm, there's another improvement we can do to the bot.Oct 03 23:13
qu1j0t3right, I wanted to know what the provocative post was about.Oct 03 23:13
schestowitzReward: laptop with Vista7 Ultimate EdishenOct 03 23:13
_Goblinschestowitz: yep and Im also wanted for.......daring to give my honest held belief....I must be stopped!!!!Oct 03 23:14
_GoblinI got a free copy of Sabayon 5.4..... ;)Oct 03 23:14
Ender2070niceOct 03 23:14
_GoblinI must be a Sabayon shill.... ;)Oct 03 23:14
Ender2070you areOct 03 23:15
Ender2070gentoo > sabayonOct 03 23:15
_Goblinthats cool....I can live with that.Oct 03 23:15
Ender2070i like gentoo better so you're a shillOct 03 23:15
Ender2070j/kOct 03 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/10/2010: #Gimpbox Introduced, ACS:Law Boss Could Go Bankrupt !techrighs #roundupOct 03 23:15
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_Goblin:) Gentoo is sweet...its merely for convenience and now as a recommendation to others that I go Sabayon.Oct 03 23:16
qu1j0t3Gentoo works for me.Oct 03 23:16
qu1j0t3i just want a reliable box to work on, it delivers that, so I'm happy :)Oct 03 23:16
MinceRgentoo worked for me for a while, then it didn'tOct 03 23:16
Ender2070yeah I like SabayonOct 03 23:16
_Goblinand Gentoo/sabayon are both lightning fast.Oct 03 23:16
_Goblinor to coin my phrase....punchyOct 03 23:17
oiaohmEvery distribution targets different users.Oct 03 23:17
_GoblinI also like the idea of a rolling release...Oct 03 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The latest Ubuntu Linux distribution isn't quite perfect, but it's close 03 23:17
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Ender2070sabayon is gentoo, its just done for youOct 03 23:17
Ender2070same with calculate linuxOct 03 23:17
qu1j0t3hm interesting.Oct 03 23:17
_Goblinyep....nice and simple....although you did forget to mention the groovy track that places when you boot the livecdOct 03 23:17
oiaohmsabayon is not as simple as gentoo to sneak into embed systems.Oct 03 23:18
MinceR"gentoo" seems to contradict "its just done for you" :>Oct 03 23:18
_Goblin"out of the box" I prefer to useOct 03 23:18
MinceR(even though i just went and enabled all the features for the most part :> )Oct 03 23:18
Ender2070sabayon is simply based on gentooOct 03 23:18
Ender2070thats what I meanOct 03 23:18
oiaohmCompared to Linux from Scratch gentoo is done for you.  MinceROct 03 23:18
Ender2070you can turn it back into gentoo by using emergeOct 03 23:19
MinceRoiaohm: :>Oct 03 23:19
_Goblinhaving said that, isn't "out of the box" almost the defacto standard for most distro's these days?Oct 03 23:19
qu1j0t3oiaohm: hm yes I know an LFS dev in Melbourne as it happensOct 03 23:19
Ender2070how can you be an LFS dev?Oct 03 23:19
Ender2070its a PDFOct 03 23:19
Ender2070LOLOct 03 23:19
oiaohmLFS is great for 100 percent custom embed.Oct 03 23:19
qu1j0t3Ender2070: somebody has to write the damn pdf ;-)Oct 03 23:20
oiaohmYes Linux distributions cover a huge range.Oct 03 23:20
MinceRsomeone has to write/update that pdfOct 03 23:20
oiaohm_Goblin: There are still a lot of distributions that are not fully done out the box.Oct 03 23:20
oiaohmAnd there always will be.Oct 03 23:21
oiaohmWhen you have to fight with embed where ever bit less processor power and memory required is better.Oct 03 23:21
_Goblinoiaohm: true, but then 99% of the distro's Ive run with only required a small amount of tinkering to get to a "sabayon functionality"Oct 03 23:22
_GoblinIve been messing with Tiny thats a different matter.Oct 03 23:22
oiaohmTiny Core is fun.  Setting up a xchat only version of that at moment.  _GoblinOct 03 23:22
_Goblinbut even that, its quite user secret to installing drivers and software.Oct 03 23:23
oiaohmYes I do mean xchat only.Oct 03 23:23
oiaohmNo other functionallity at all.Oct 03 23:23
_Goblincool!Oct 03 23:23
qu1j0t3weechat!!! (oiaohm yes i know your kids wanted gui)Oct 03 23:23
oiaohmIts for scouts.  qu1j0t3Oct 03 23:23
qu1j0t3yepOct 03 23:23
qu1j0t3but in general i think it's immoral that irc client should take 20mb resOct 03 23:24
oiaohmcut down linux with only xchat is going to scare the crud out of them.Oct 03 23:24
qu1j0t3Decline of Modern Civilisation, right thereOct 03 23:24
_Goblinoiaohm: but its damn l337 though! ;)Oct 03 23:24
oiaohmLast year they went off web browsing and run the 3g key out of quota.Oct 03 23:24
oiaohmNot this year.Oct 03 23:25
oiaohmSo yes I expect some upset ones.Oct 03 23:25
MinceRgnOct 03 23:25
qu1j0t3lolOct 03 23:25
_Goblinhow about a CLI text based browser? best of both worlds?Oct 03 23:26
qu1j0t3oiaohm: yeah when i was in Oz last, 5GB month limit. Impossible for us to stick to that.Oct 03 23:26
qu1j0t3_Goblin: weechat+lynx :DOct 03 23:26
qu1j0t3_Goblin: thanks for reminding me, need to test what I'm working on in lynx.Oct 03 23:26
oiaohmOther than using lynx some sites think you are an attacker.Oct 03 23:27
qu1j0t3their problem :DOct 03 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @gimpusers !GIMP 2.6.11 is available for download 03 23:27
_Goblinyou could also include a basic twitter app with a bash script using CURL command.Oct 03 23:27
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_Goblinand tart it up with dialog command!Oct 03 23:27
qu1j0t3_Goblin++Oct 03 23:28
_GoblinI beginning to think I should make my own distro! Linux L337 2010 "where user-friendlyness and appealing visuals are a thing of the past..but hey, you can look down your nose at others.."Oct 03 23:29
oiaohmOnce I am done with the xchat version fully.  I might do a a weechat as well.Oct 03 23:30
_GoblinDamn Unfriendly Linux....or DUL....yep I think that would work...I think Ive found a gap in the Linux market.Oct 03 23:30
MinceR_Goblin: kind of like mac os sux?Oct 03 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Updated "Details Needed About New Red Hat-Acacia Patent Settlement" with new information #redhat #swpatsOct 03 23:30
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oiaohm_Goblin:  only windows manager ratpoison of course.   _GoblinOct 03 23:30
MinceR(user-hostile ui, check. unappealing visuals, check. looking down at others, check.)Oct 03 23:30
qu1j0t3twm!Oct 03 23:31
*qu1j0t3 runzOct 03 23:31
_Goblinmincer: well as you know, in order to be leet you have to make life as difficult as possible.Oct 03 23:31
_Goblin;)Oct 03 23:31
MinceR:>Oct 03 23:31
qu1j0t3<:Oct 03 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Brief Exchange with Deepak Chopra - Oh the Humanity! Little summary of the argument I was part of last nightOct 03 23:32
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_Goblin...Oct 03 23:32
schestowitz"After that, it was if they flood gates of Chopra minions sprung forth to peel the flesh from my skin and serve it to their Chopra master."Oct 03 23:33
schestowitzHeheOct 03 23:33
_Goblini keep putting off finishing some articles....Oct 03 23:33
oiaohmtwm user friendly compared to ratpoisonOct 03 23:33
_Goblinwas trying to have a lazy day....Oct 03 23:33
_GoblinQuote a reviewer of Sabayon KDE "As always, Sabayon's default boot option is to boot and play some obscure heavy metal rock music in the background; as always (aside from when I first tested Sabayon 5.0, which I did not formally review on this blog), I opted not to listen to it. "Oct 03 23:35
_GoblinThe music is the best bit of the livecd!Oct 03 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fcassia I´m curious if LindowsOS didnt patent their One-click-install and if they couldnt go against Apple app store / #swpatsOct 03 23:35
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schestowitz_Goblin: guess who talks to johnobeto ?Oct 03 23:40
schestowitzThe mobbyistsOct 03 23:40
schestowitzHehe. THe mobbyists just talk to the MSMVPs now cause nobody in the FS world would speak to themOct 03 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner no OS is perfect. "If you optimize everything, you will always be unhappy." --Don KnuthOct 03 23:45
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hazzyOh, hey, wait a secondOct 03 23:51
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schestowitzwb ツOct 03 23:52
_Goblinschestowitz: who?Oct 03 23:52
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Ender2070meOct 03 23:52
schestowitzThe mobbyistOct 03 23:52
sebsebsebEnder2070: wbOct 03 23:52
Ender2070?Oct 03 23:52
schestowitzThe one pretending to be a "FOSS" guyOct 03 23:52
_GoblinI think Ive had a few conversations with him...Oct 03 23:52
sebsebseboh yeah now I rememberOct 03 23:53
sebsebsebsomethingOct 03 23:53
schestowitzWho attack everything and everyone associated with LinuxOct 03 23:53
sebsebsebI had links to share here, and not omgubuntu :DOct 03 23:53
schestowitzHe's not just ignored by theOct 03 23:53
schestowitzHe's not just ignored by themOct 03 23:53
schestowitzSo he only hangs out with Microsoft boosters, ACCESS/Apple trolls and the likeOct 03 23:53
schestowitzIt's amusing how fact he got exposed and made a rotten appleOct 03 23:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adoption of !GNU !Linux on the Desktop One picture is worth a thousand words...Oct 03 23:54
schestowitzHis lobbying career in computer is overOct 03 23:54
schestowitzNot sure about the footballobbyingOct 03 23:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Next in series on CC welfare impact #econ #researchOct 03 23:57
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hazzyI'm trying to bring more attention to independent candidates for the presidential election in 2012Oct 03 23:57
Ender2070btw, ACCESS fired its trolls, no more fundingOct 03 23:58
Ender2070they trolled as much as they could, it couldn't prop up the ELSE and the trolls got cannedOct 03 23:59

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