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Chips_B_MalroyBut then, Bobby Fischer managed to live in IcelandOct 08 00:00
Chips_B_MalroyThat would be Danish or Norwegan spoken there maybeOct 08 00:01
Chips_B_MalroyProbably  a lot of English speaking people thereOct 08 00:02
Chips_B_MalroyAnyway, let me get out of here and let you get back to doing your good work.   Thanks again.Oct 08 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patent Lawsuits Around !Linux (Roundup) http://ur1.ca/20412 also covers the Microsoft-staffed #Acacia and #redhat #swpatsOct 08 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Patent Lawsuits Around Linux (Roundup) | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.96 KBOct 08 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] There's one born every minute http://ur1.ca/2041uOct 08 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @joabj NuPack is 'openwashing', still only helps a proprietary platform.Oct 08 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Obvious observation: when arriving at people's pages they may always seem more popluar than average(otherwise you would not have come there)Oct 08 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj EBay deploys Joomla for analytics portal (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/bkZ4nGOct 08 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: eBay deploys Joomla for analytics portal | Applications - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 100.43 KBOct 08 00:35
schestowitzHi, FurnaceBoyOct 08 00:35
schestowitzSee -socialOct 08 00:35
schestowitzI pasted some OT stuff therweOct 08 00:35
schestowitzThe boy learned Pearly's trickOct 08 00:36
schestowitz"charity"Oct 08 00:36
schestowitzBut he started earlier ;)Oct 08 00:36
schestowitzhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/zuckerpunched-maybe-those-tech-nerds-arent-so-harmless/article1577360/Oct 08 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zuckerpunched! Maybe those tech nerds aren't so harmless - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 73.89 KBOct 08 00:36
schestowitz'He reportedly cancelled his birthday celebration in the Caribbean last weekend in order to hold a series of emergency meetings in California to discuss how to rehabilitate Facebook's (and by extension his own) tarnished image. According to The Times of London, the software genius told colleagues that he wants to establish himself as “a good guy.”'Oct 08 00:36
schestowitzBy buying itOct 08 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ubuntu 10.10 final ready to roll http://goo.gl/o3KlOct 08 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu 10.10 final ready to roll - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.5 KBOct 08 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "And I cherish the feeling of freedom each time. [...] We often forget to appreciate something until we lose it." -J. Angelo RacomaOct 08 00:41
schestowitz[18:42] * Diablo-D3 has no osnews account, and also thinks osnews sucksOct 08 00:42
schestowitzBalls evenOct 08 00:42
schestowitzThom ruined itOct 08 00:43
schestowitzNot just put off FOSS sympathisersOct 08 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm will there be a book tour in the UK? ;-)Oct 08 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith MS, in the spirit of love for Open Source, should name its mobile OS "MeToo" :-DOct 08 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Libya's domain "morality" crackdown worries URL shorteners http://ur1.ca/204ahOct 08 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Libya's domain "morality" crackdown worries URL shorteners .::. Size~: 28.82 KBOct 08 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz Sadly not for this one. Maybe later when I'm wildly famous :DOct 08 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin different doesn't mean wrong. >context?Oct 08 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram that cover story for NewsWeek was written by Linux basher, Steve Jobs imposer, and SCO booster. #fail #newsweekOct 08 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram s/imposer/imposter/Oct 08 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @schestowitz does it really need one?Oct 08 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Tron-Style Visuals Drive Enter the Void’s Psychedelic Death Trip | Underwire | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/204btOct 08 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @evan could !Identica start using http://ng.gd instead of ur1.ca by default for shorter url and gopher support? @bleakgadfly !statusnetOct 08 00:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tron-Style Visuals Drive Enter the Voids Psychedelic Death Trip | Underwire | Wired.com .::. Size~: 66 KBOct 08 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CherryPal Announces 7-Inch Android 2.1 Tablet with Sub-$200 Price Tag http://ur1.ca/204cz Can Apple come up with "Android killer"?Oct 08 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CherryPal Announces 7-Inch Android 2.1 Tablet with Sub-$200 Price Tag | AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 38.63 KBOct 08 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz oh, is that the fake Steve Jobs?Oct 08 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] equo remove app --nodeps removes just the app you want to remove sans removing all the dependencies #sabayonOct 08 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @reality in Canada Doritos are less expensive than cornflakes. #junkfoodfactsOct 08 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @dpic no.Oct 08 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz lets hope the hardware isn't crapOct 08 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just what we need - MicroDobe - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/microsoft-and-adobe-chiefs-meet-to-discuss-partnerships/ #fbOct 08 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin I presume someone insulted your stylesheetsOct 08 01:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @schestowitz nope, just a mere observation of someone else's miseryOct 08 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Israeli artists refuse to perform in illegal settlements http://ur1.ca/204hfOct 08 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] Education system as panhandler; the new trickledown - Every US school district supposed 2 sit &wait for a touch of #zuckerberg's magic wand?Oct 08 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] Hey Fuckerberg what's that trickling down yr leg - or are you just pleased to see a reputation laundering opportunity? #PRgasm #MalEducationOct 08 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] Poverty on rise in U.S. suburbs http://t.co/pgS6Vwv via @globeandmailOct 08 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @evan just n-- just no? do y-- do you wanna, i dunno, ela-- elaborate on the no? http://nd.gd/65Oct 08 01:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The great American suburb gives way to rising poverty - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 85.44 KBOct 08 01:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Scrubs My Therapeutic Month 3/3   .::. Size~: 113.21 KBOct 08 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Interesting take on Red Hat and the Cloud - http://blogs.kuppingercole.com/kuppinger/2010/10/06/red-hat-and-the-cloud #fbOct 08 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin misery -- except physical misery -- is caused by expectations of the surrounding environment to a large degree.Oct 08 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc7-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 08 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] blag review up http://tekkenfreak3.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/blag-review/Oct 08 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @schestowitz i disagree, people can be really cruel sometimesOct 08 01:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat and the Cloud | Martin Kuppinger .::. Size~: 28.16 KBOct 08 01:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 28.58 KBOct 08 01:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BLAG Review « Tekkenfreak3's Blog .::. Size~: 17.87 KBOct 08 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin yes, but does that contradict the supposition that misery is imposed by the surrounding environment? {ctd}Oct 08 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin {ctd} there's this skill people can acquire to be more resistant to critiism if not apathetic to it. Some criticism, however, {ctd}Oct 08 01:23
schestowitz[22:10] <hazzy> Hmm, did you get my last link?Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz[22:11] <hazzy> MSN DirectOct 08 01:24
schestowitzwhere?Oct 08 01:24
schestowitz:-)Oct 08 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin {ctd} puts a person in a position of personal threat, like threat from a boss or a partner who shares belongingsOct 08 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @schestowitz you said expectations of the environment, not the environment itselfOct 08 01:25
hazzyhttps://www.msndirect.com/MSNDirectServiceAnnouncement.aspxOct 08 01:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MSN Direct Support .::. Size~: 22.03 KBOct 08 01:25
hazzyThat oneOct 08 01:25
hazzyAnother dead productOct 08 01:26
hazzyOr...serviceOct 08 01:26
schestowitzyayOct 08 01:27
schestowitzMicrosoft is WINNING~!!!!~11111111111Oct 08 01:27
schestowitzI'm terrified of MicrosoftOct 08 01:27
schestowitzIt's getting trim and agile.. *roar8Oct 08 01:27
hazzyI guess Ballmer didn't get his wish..."I'm going to kill Google."Oct 08 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin expectation one has of his/her environment rather. That's why people in advanced society still need anti-depressantsOct 08 01:28
schestowitzwaitOct 08 01:28
schestowitzIs this newOct 08 01:28
schestowitzGoogle News has nothing on itOct 08 01:28
hazzyIt was on SlashdotOct 08 01:28
schestowitzwhen?Oct 08 01:28
schestowitzwhere?Oct 08 01:28
hazzyIn the "Recent" tab at about 10:00 London timeOct 08 01:29
hazzyLooks like it was oldOct 08 01:30
hazzyWhich is why it was deletedOct 08 01:30
hazzyFrom SlashdotOct 08 01:30
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schestowitzhazzy: it's in the list already http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Dead_Divisions_or_ProductsOct 08 01:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft - Dead Divisions or Products - Techrights .::. Size~: 22.92 KBOct 08 01:31
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/10/30/msn-direct-rip/Oct 08 01:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MSN Direct Added to List of Microsoft Products That Die | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.14 KBOct 08 01:31
hazzyAh, okOct 08 01:31
schestowitzMSN Direct service  is shutting down. https://www.msndirect.com/MSNDirectServiceAnnouncement.aspx ... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Dead_Divisions_or_ProductsOct 08 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBOct 08 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft - Dead Divisions or Products - Techrights .::. Size~: 22.92 KBOct 08 01:32
hazzyWow, that was really oldOct 08 01:32
hazzyButOct 08 01:32
hazzyLooks like techrights has a story submitted to SlashdotOct 08 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink Kaj Arnö of MySQL finally leaves Oracle: http://bit.ly/b1WCtP #scoracle #obstacleOct 08 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @reality not in KDE 4.4Oct 08 01:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thank you, everyone behind MySQL AB! | It's some interesting topic! by Kaj Arnö .::. Size~: 46.82 KBOct 08 01:38
schestowitz<hazzy> Looks like techrights has a story submitted to SlashdotOct 08 01:39
schestowitzwhat do you mean submitted?Oct 08 01:40
hazzySomeone submitted a story to Slashdot based on a story from TechrightsOct 08 01:40
schestowitz[22:44] <Chips_B_Malroy> I don't care about Adobe as a company, only Adobe is the lesser of two evils by far compared to MS.  And Adobe Flash deserves and honorable mention saving the world from Silverlight for now.Oct 08 01:43
schestowitzHeheOct 08 01:43
schestowitzhazzy: got a URL?Oct 08 01:43
FurnaceBoythat kind of agglomeration is never good.Oct 08 01:43
FurnaceBoythey're bad as separates; they're worse togetherOct 08 01:43
schestowitzI've not submitted a story to /. for like 3 yearsOct 08 01:43
hazzyhttp://slashdot.org/submission/1351692/ACT-Caught-Subverting-EU-Pannels-for-MOct 08 01:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Submission | ACT Caught Subverting EU Pannels for M$ .::. Size~: 44.81 KBOct 08 01:43
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: but Microsoft can take A10be down with itOct 08 01:44
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I don't think that will happen.Oct 08 01:44
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Adobe is profitable, it will help keep the blood pumping.Oct 08 01:44
FurnaceBoybut everybody else will suffer worse.Oct 08 01:44
schestowitzhazzy: oh, I know the submittedOct 08 01:45
schestowitzHe's here in IRC sometimesOct 08 01:45
schestowitz*submitterOct 08 01:45
hazzyAh, twitter, that's where I saw that nameOct 08 01:45
schestowitzIt doesn't mention my confrontations and letters to the ombudsmanOct 08 01:46
schestowitzI got some people in the Commission reprimandedOct 08 01:46
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: it won't happen anywayOct 08 01:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: you activist!Oct 08 01:47
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i hope it does not. it would be terrible.Oct 08 01:47
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hazzyYeah, you'd probably see Flash as an IE only plugin if it happenedOct 08 01:47
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: the strategy is Divide and Conquer, not Unite and Conquer, for a reason ;-)Oct 08 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody MPAA: Piracy Will Always Be With Us - http://bit.ly/bGzoGv no, when sharing is legalised, it will disappear #piracyOct 08 01:51
FurnaceBoyhazzy: we need to think far wider than Flash.Oct 08 01:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    MPAA: Piracy Will Always Be With Us | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 50.01 KBOct 08 01:51
FurnaceBoyhazzy: Photoshop is the major earner for Adobe. They have a 25 year monopoly on graphic arts.Oct 08 01:52
FurnaceBoytransfering that to Microsoft would mean even more damage to that sectorOct 08 01:52
FurnaceBoyit would be catastrophicOct 08 01:52
FurnaceBoyit's damaged enough by the quarter-century monopolyOct 08 01:52
hazzyWell, I was thinking about Photoshop tooOct 08 01:53
hazzyButOct 08 01:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2010-Oct-07: Felix Sasaki, W3C Germany and Austria Office, participates at a panel entitled: LITA's „Top Tech Trend... http://ow.ly/19le1iOct 08 01:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Talks by W3C Speakers   .::. Size~: 251.29 KBOct 08 01:53
hazzyI didn't see anything immediately troubling about the acquisition by MicrosoftOct 08 01:53
hazzyIn regards to PhotoshopOct 08 01:53
FurnaceBoyeh?Oct 08 01:54
FurnaceBoyit's very very troubling.Oct 08 01:54
schestowitz<FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: you activist!Oct 08 01:54
schestowitzWHY SO ANGRY!!Oct 08 01:54
FurnaceBoyPhotoshop is already a monopoly. That kind of weapon is very familiar to Microsoft.......Oct 08 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] my mad fast metab is a bitch #hungryOct 08 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram !Ubuntu Won't Moan To EU About Microsoft http://ur1.ca/203ut / "Moan" is the wrong word. See http://ur1.ca/204qaOct 08 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Ubuntu Won't Moan To EU About Microsoft .::. Size~: 140.48 KBOct 08 01:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leaked: Microsoft Pays Companies to Recommend Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 139.54 KBOct 08 01:55
FurnaceBoyAdobe has already been raping the market for a long time......Oct 08 01:55
schestowitzYou're SO ANGRY... we can't invite you to parliamentOct 08 01:55
schestowitzYou can be dissatisfied... just. Not. TOO.  dissatisfied.Oct 08 01:55
hazzyI think it's just that I don't *understand* the graphic arts sector too muchOct 08 01:55
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: suits me. I tweet rudely about billionaires. I don't expect to be sharing tea and scones with Queen Arianna any time soon.Oct 08 01:55
schestowitzOtherwise you may condone terror~1 and dancing in the streets.Oct 08 01:55
FurnaceBoyhazzy: I've worked in it since ~ 1987 .. it was my career until I switched to software engineeringOct 08 01:56
FurnaceBoyhazzy: I've run studios with every product Adobe makesOct 08 01:56
FurnaceBoyand I already hate them. :)Oct 08 01:56
hazzyYes, so you definitely know more than I doOct 08 01:56
hazzyI haven't even been alive since 1987Oct 08 01:56
schestowitz<FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: suits me. I tweet rudely about billionaires. I don't expect to be sharing tea and scones with Queen Arianna any time soon.Oct 08 01:57
FurnaceBoythey haven't been a good custodian of digital graphic arts.Oct 08 01:57
schestowitzThat's pride by associationOct 08 01:57
schestowitzIt's why people want to photograph themselves with Bill GatesOct 08 01:57
schestowitz"I'm a failure, but look who I touched"Oct 08 01:57
schestowitz"I spoke to professor X the other day"Oct 08 01:57
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: um, i work with people who think that way :D ... such tweets as today's could get me into hot water... :DOct 08 01:58
schestowitz"Last night I was at this club surrounded by gorgeous ladies"Oct 08 01:58
schestowitzLook at the kids is NeverlandOct 08 01:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: precisely. Disneyworld.Oct 08 01:58
schestowitzThey wanted to tell their friends they touched MichaelOct 08 01:59
schestowitzBut eventually i's him who touched them .Oct 08 01:59
*schestowitz shuddersOct 08 01:59
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: well, a lot of Newark kids were just touched by Fuckerberg's magic wandOct 08 01:59
schestowitzHe has a wand?Oct 08 01:59
FurnaceBoya circumcised oneOct 08 01:59
schestowitzKeep kids away fro him thenOct 08 02:00
schestowitzIf he has a wandOct 08 02:00
schestowitzWell, the churches too require a wandOct 08 02:00
FurnaceBoyhe has a wand-ering chequebookOct 08 02:00
schestowitzTo be a priest you need to have a penisOct 08 02:00
schestowitzNow we know whyOct 08 02:00
schestowitz<FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: well, a lot of Newark kids were just touched by Fuckerberg's magic wandOct 08 02:01
schestowitz"Poked"?Oct 08 02:01
schestowitzHe "Liked" themOct 08 02:01
schestowitzHe wanted to write ALL OVER their wallOct 08 02:01
schestowitzhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/zuckerpunched-maybe-those-tech-nerds-arent-so-harmless/article1577360/Oct 08 02:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zuckerpunched! Maybe those tech nerds aren't so harmless - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 74.07 KBOct 08 02:02
schestowitzThe features in Facebooks have potentially sexual connotation... even "Facebook"Oct 08 02:04
schestowitzAnd notice the old siteOct 08 02:04
schestowitzHow he plastered his identity all over the siteOct 08 02:04
schestowitzImages and namesOct 08 02:04
schestowitzDon't know how early you saw itOct 08 02:04
schestowitzIt was more like, "my name is Mark, and I'll be your host" :-)Oct 08 02:04
schestowitzhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/10/07/skypes-android-shackles-are-broken-3g-calling-hacked-into-real/Oct 08 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Skype's Android shackles are broken, 3G calling hacked into reality -- Engadget .::. Size~: 62.52 KBOct 08 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] removed #pulseaudio and media apps #failed #sabayonOct 08 02:10
Tekk_XDOct 08 02:12
Tekk_Sadly, none of Häyhä’s targets respawned and spat profanities at him through a headset - they were dead. Real war is a lot more depressing than virtual war, but the principles are the same.Oct 08 02:13
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: no. but wouldn't it be nice to have screenshots :DOct 08 02:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 Poverty on rise in U.S. suburbs http://t.co/pgS6Vwv via @globeandmailOct 08 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @tekk blag review up http://tekkenfreak3.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/blag-review/ !gnu !linux #BLAGOct 08 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The Fifty Cent Party http://ur1.ca/204wxOct 08 02:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The great American suburb gives way to rising poverty - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 85.55 KBOct 08 02:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BLAG Review « Tekkenfreak3's Blog .::. Size~: 17.95 KBOct 08 02:15
schestowitz[02:13] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: no. but wouldn't it be nice to have screenshots :DOct 08 02:16
schestowitzThere areOct 08 02:16
schestowitzIn Techrights' front page at the momemtOct 08 02:16
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/202y6Oct 08 02:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More Software Patents Stockpiling at Facebook | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.72 KBOct 08 02:16
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/kJUSa/Oct 08 02:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: Los Simpsons y Microsoft .::. Size~: 5.22 KBOct 08 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I wonder if I can get a gnubuck for pointing out that alienarena thing in blag...Oct 08 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @telecomix Internet blocking to be discussed in Brussels #censilia http://ur1.ca/1zootOct 08 02:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: celex-txt - 52010PC0094 - .::. Size~: 82.77 KBOct 08 02:28
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/patentlyo/status/26585497533 "#Patent: Bilski Survey: Questions Left Open by the Supreme Court's Decision http://bit.ly/br8plW"Oct 08 02:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Dennis Crouch: #Patent: Bilski Survey: Qu ... .::. Size~: 12.64 KBOct 08 02:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bilski Survey: Questions Left Open by the Supreme Court's Decision - Patent Law Blog (Patently-O) .::. Size~: 45.2 KBOct 08 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] M$ suggests quarantining PCs before connecting to the network. Fine anyone running Windows is the solution - http://ur1.ca/2051g #fbOct 08 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ff @mohanpram @hintjens @tekk @mgeist @gnufreexOct 08 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @zoobab Johan what? #mobbyistsOct 08 02:33
Tekk_schestowitz: what was with that dent? (the one before last)Oct 08 02:34
schestowitzfollow fridayOct 08 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bendrath A journalist was just kicked out of the room. Openness != #ACTA. #EUOct 08 02:38
Tekk_schestowitz: it's thursdayOct 08 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: it's not Friday yet. ;)Oct 08 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oops. Just left the water at the kitchen running for 4 hours by accident. The bill will punish me later.Oct 08 02:41
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26646228190 "A journalist was just kicked out of the room. Openness != #ACTA. #EU"Oct 08 02:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Rob Weir: @thooorsten You're naming  ... .::. Size~: 12.59 KBOct 08 02:42
schestowitzSaid to Novell employeeOct 08 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz well water ftwOct 08 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram it's Friday hereOct 08 02:43
hazzyYesOct 08 02:44
hazzyWell water ftwOct 08 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ha, vendo uns episódios antigos dos Trapalhões. O Mussum e o Zacarias eram os + engraçados...Oct 08 02:45
Tekk_schestowitz: where is here?Oct 08 02:46
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26659061648 "@mohanpram it's Friday here"Oct 08 02:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Rob Weir: @jackschofield Jack, enoug ... .::. Size~: 12.5 KBOct 08 02:46
schestowitzOopsOct 08 02:46
Tekk_around the uk?Oct 08 02:46
schestowitz" @jackschofield Jack, enough of your flirting. So seriously, what you recommend for a good wireless mouse/keyboard combination?  "Oct 08 02:46
schestowitzJack trolls IBMOct 08 02:46
Tekk_western europe that's not the UK?Oct 08 02:46
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26661342388 "Anyone else hearing rumors of Microsoft planning to join #LibreOffice and the Document Foundation?"Oct 08 02:47
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26662943920 "I don't know if it is an accurate rumor or not, that is why I asked. Not necessarily a bad thing if you did. I'm open minded."Oct 08 02:48
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schestowitzNot he's trolled by the MSFT crowdOct 08 02:48
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: Whitewash for DMCA-type laws: Can copyright bill survive with all its kinks?Oct 08 02:49
schestowitzAnd this: http://www.irwinlaw.com/store/product/666/from--radical-extremism--to--balanced-copyright-Oct 08 02:49
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schestowitzLobbyists write Canadian lawOct 08 02:50
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26675847060 "To my earlier poll regarding rumors of MSFT joining the Document Foundation, the results are: 2 No, 0 Yes and 5 Oh, Crap."Oct 08 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: yeah I know you are like half way across the world, I am in one the last timezones :)Oct 08 02:51
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/26679357078 "@gray_knowlton I note that you've denied the rumor four times now. That should be more than sufficient for any false rumor."Oct 08 02:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A #mobbyist repeatedly refuses to claim that he is not being paid by Microsoft to "campaign" http://ur1.ca/2056nOct 08 02:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @robynbergeron: Watching apple products be given away at an open source conference <- this is sad #crapple #partoftheproblemOct 08 02:58
schestowitzhttp://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/CapStone+Says+Red+Hat+(RHT)+Overvalued+as+a+Takeover+Target%3B+Reiterates+Sell,+$24+Price+Target/6016035.html "The firm reiterates a Sell rating and $24 price target, suggesting potential downside of about 42% from where the stock is trading today."Oct 08 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @robynbergeron: Watching apple products be given away at an open source conference <- this is sad #crapple #partoftheproblemOct 08 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The freeze is over http://ur1.ca/205c0Oct 08 03:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lh #OpenSource resources for pre-university educators from the K-12 Educators Workshop at #ghc10 http://bit.ly/ceOJMbOct 08 03:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching House S06E16Oct 08 03:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] A K12 Educator’s Guide to Open Source Software - http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/a-k12-educators-guide-to-open-source-software/ #fbOct 08 03:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @segphault MS/Adobe merger rumor! Convergence of such dense companies would create black hole of ineptitude that would suck like noth ...Oct 08 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] New interest emerge in climate legislation http://ur1.ca/205x1Oct 08 04:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF interview with #freejiew Chiranuch Premchaiporn of @Prachatai and the @ThaiNetizen Network. https://eff.org/r.1sMOct 08 04:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stewiex x2 ♺ @magicbus: Wow, only 3 days until Maverick Meerkat is released? Can't wait! !ubuntuOct 08 04:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Don't Post Pictures of an FBI Tracking Device You Find on a Car to the Internet http://gawker.com/5658671/ #nothingtohideOct 08 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF interview with #freejiew Chiranuch Premchaiporn of @Prachatai and the @ThaiNetizen Network. https://eff.org/r.1sMOct 08 04:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♻ @Valleywag: Don't Post Pictures of an FBI Tracking Device You Find on a Car to the Internet http://gawker.com/5658671/Oct 08 04:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Copyright Abuse in Ohio Governor #Election https://eff.org/r.s8POct 08 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk if it's not software, it's enough to be redistributable to comply with the F*S*DGOct 08 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] House season #6 isn't as good as the previous onesOct 08 04:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva ah, okay. Since you're allowed to have AA in repos you can obviously distribute it so I guess we're good :POct 08 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Man posts photos of FBI tracker found on his car: http://gawker.com/5658671/Oct 08 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: #Copyright Abuse in Ohio Governor #Election https://eff.org/r.s8POct 08 04:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Ars examines Chrome and Firefox bookmark sync protocols http://ur1.ca/2067wOct 08 04:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] For citizens only http://ur1.ca/206chOct 08 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @laurelrusswurm true thatOct 08 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @seeds the idea is of course that if you're lost in the woods they'll find you. Don't know of they need warrant to monitor cell phone GPS.Oct 08 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bananabob RD @lopbox Help prove there are more than 1% !Linux users in the world! http://ur1.ca/1zaafOct 08 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @laurelrusswurm yea. well you can never tell with the system overseers :)Oct 08 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @seeds i wouldn't give them the keys to my house. :(Oct 08 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jstone If our taxes pay for research, why can't we openly access that knowledge? Get involved in Open Access Week: http://www.openac ...Oct 08 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jstone !pt Open Access Week in Portugal: http://www.acessolivre.pt/semana/Oct 08 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @laurelrusswurm :) well they are the gate keepersOct 08 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Firefox 4 Beta for Android and Maemo is Now Available http://bit.ly/bVNv75Oct 08 06:08
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schestowitz"Do you think that releasing mice and rats from a lab is "terrorism"?" http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jul-oct.html#7%20October%202010%20%28Scott%20DeMuth%20and%20Carrie%20Feldman%20in%20jail%29Oct 08 06:11
schestowitzhttp://www.pixiq.com/article/amtrak-police-arrest-photographer-participating-in-amtrak-photo-contestOct 08 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Marina Silva leads "Green tsunami" in Brazil http://ur1.ca/206pkOct 08 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101008 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 08 06:23
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schestowitzhttp://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=541Oct 08 06:26
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schestowitzExcuses for proprietary changesOct 08 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] New Severed Fifth 'Nightmares By Design' Sneak Peek! Drill Down - http://soc.li/0Ix8zTB #severedfifthOct 08 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My day @ SVIT http://ur1.ca/206tb "The distribution I have selected is !Ubuntu 10.10, [...] as simple as installing a windows"Oct 08 06:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to get Free !ubuntu 10.10 CD (Maverick Meerkat http://ur1.ca/206ux "The ShipIt service can be used by users with low-bandwidth"Oct 08 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The real cost of free http://ur1.ca/1z9o8 "risks to freedom arising from the failure of copyright giants... prevent copying."Oct 08 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If it's true that Microsoft even _thought_ about buying Adobe it's excellent just because it confirms Microsoft has no clue what to do next.Oct 08 06:52
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gnufreexhiOct 08 06:53
gnufreexFurnaceBoy: ping!Oct 08 06:55
gnufreexoiaohm: pingOct 08 06:55
gnufreexVote down the mobbyist http://www.osnews.com/thread?444338Oct 08 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Planning to Migrate to Linux? BEWARE!!! http://ur1.ca/206yp It's homour. Excellent! !gnu !linuxOct 08 07:00
schestowitzDon't game the systemOct 08 07:00
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schestowitzTHe only one benefiting from it is OSNews, which _sucks_Oct 08 07:01
schestowitzJust ignore him or ridicule him here by exposing the liesOct 08 07:01
schestowitzI spot many of theseOct 08 07:01
schestowitzLike the LibreOffice 'romoursOct 08 07:01
schestowitzHe tries to put people offOct 08 07:01
schestowitzBy suggesting Microsoft will joinOct 08 07:02
schestowitzAnd even Microsoft execs deny itOct 08 07:02
gnufreexschestowitz: I know, but I would like to see -10 in votes on his posts (on sites where there are a vote). It sends a message.Oct 08 07:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Distro Hoppin`: #Trisquel !GNU !Linux 4.0 http://ur1.ca/206y8 "managed to bury my preconception about 100% free OSes being more of a creed"Oct 08 07:02
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schestowitzIt's OSNewsOct 08 07:03
schestowitzWHo cares?Oct 08 07:03
schestowitzTHEY BOOST Miguel thereOct 08 07:03
gnufreexIt is "a site"Oct 08 07:03
schestowitzLet them carry on with their Vista 7 ravesOct 08 07:03
schestowitzLinux folks whom I know ditched that siteOct 08 07:03
schestowitzThey also have anti-Linux Microsoft adsOct 08 07:04
gnufreexI managed to convince lot of OSNews readers that Mono is danger. I get votes on Mono bashing comments.Oct 08 07:04
schestowitzWHat I'd like to see is side-by-side comparison of dupes from lobbyistsOct 08 07:04
schestowitze.g. if it paste similar comments in different sitesOct 08 07:04
schestowitzLike hew 'spams' journalists and then brags is 1% of that generates some tiny quote somewhereOct 08 07:05
gnufreexschestowitz: There is no point going to sites where people agree with me. I go through enemy lines and try to change perceptions.Oct 08 07:05
schestowitzIt'll have him stop this behaviourOct 08 07:05
schestowitzYou sound like FlorianOct 08 07:06
schestowitz<gnufreex> schestowitz: There is no point going to sites where people agree with me. I go through enemy lines and try to change perceptions.Oct 08 07:06
schestowitz^^Mobbyists trolling Linux sitesOct 08 07:06
gnufreexI know I sound like him. I want to use his weaponOct 08 07:08
gnufreexagainst himOct 08 07:08
schestowitzBut this could make you a hypocrite, depending on how you behaveOct 08 07:08
schestowitzI mean, it's like this:Oct 08 07:08
schestowitzHe troll sites in some waysOct 08 07:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !gnu !linux Game of the Day: Minecraft http://ur1.ca/2070x http://ur1.ca/2070yOct 08 07:09
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schestowitzIf you to a forum filled with Windows  users (not a WINDOWS-DEDICATED forum) and politely introduce people to another option, OKOct 08 07:09
schestowitzI don't troll sitesOct 08 07:09
schestowitzI never comment in enemy territory so to speakOct 08 07:10
schestowitzJust my own sites, Linux advocacy forums, etc.Oct 08 07:10
schestowitzIt's civilOct 08 07:10
schestowitzThere are multi-faceted platforms like Digg tooOct 08 07:10
gnufreexI avoid forums that are loaded with Windows users. OSnews has lots of non-windows users.Oct 08 07:11
gnufreexIf there are 70% windows fanboys, there is no point going to that site.Oct 08 07:11
gnufreexIt it is 50/50, then maybe.Oct 08 07:11
gnufreexI am making up numbers here, but I judge by comments.Oct 08 07:12
schestowitzOSNews is OKOct 08 07:12
schestowitzBut when the mobbyists troll LWN, it's not coolOct 08 07:12
schestowitzTHEY DON'T EVEN USE LINUX!!Oct 08 07:12
schestowitzOne uses a Mac, another uses Vista 7, some are mixing...Oct 08 07:12
gnufreexMaybe you are right...Oct 08 07:15
schestowitzAbout what?Oct 08 07:17
schestowitzThe OS part is trueOct 08 07:17
schestowitzDemonstrablyOct 08 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] All's fair in love and war http://ur1.ca/2074iOct 08 07:20
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gnufreex[08:12:39] <schestowitz> One uses a Mac, another uses Vista 7, some are mixing...Oct 08 07:23
gnufreex[08:15:30] <gnufreex> Maybe you are right...Oct 08 07:23
gnufreexPower company screwed me here.Oct 08 07:23
gnufreexThey turned off electricity for few minutes. Now I'm back. schestowitz.Oct 08 07:24
gnufreexlike I said, you might be right. Maybe it is not best tactics agaist mobbyists.Oct 08 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Copyright Abuse in Ohio Governor Election http://ur1.ca/2075y bogus copyright claim.Oct 08 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't Post Pictures of an FBI Tracking Device You Find on a Car to the Internet http://gawker.com/5658671/ Tracking a reason vs cellphonesOct 08 07:27
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schestowitzgnufreex: you can use them to discredit their stanceOct 08 07:28
schestowitzNot their arguments, which is invalid tooOct 08 07:28
schestowitzIf people realise that they are Microsoft fansOct 08 07:28
schestowitzThe shrill one pretends to be "FOSS" guyOct 08 07:28
schestowitzAnd Dana carries on these lines with "open source fan"Oct 08 07:28
schestowitzThe shrill one is a Vista 7 fan and .NET devOct 08 07:29
schestowitzAnther is a former Apple marketing bunny AFAIKOct 08 07:29
schestowitzStill uses a MaOct 08 07:29
schestowitz*MacOct 08 07:29
schestowitzPoint to be made: FSF smeared not by Linux peopleOct 08 07:29
schestowitzVery oppositeOct 08 07:29
schestowitzThey are pretendersOct 08 07:29
schestowitzThen there are the minor mobbyistsOct 08 07:29
schestowitzThose who stalk and harassOct 08 07:30
schestowitzI feel bad for themOct 08 07:30
gnufreexThere is a problem with that. You know story about alliens. If you see allien, then forget about telling people. Nobody will beleive you. Mobbyists try to create that kind of mentality.Oct 08 07:30
gnufreex"He is Microsoft shill" meets: "Yeah, everybody are shills, go see a doctor".Oct 08 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eli Lilly's Reliance On Patents May Be Its Downfall - http://bit.ly/d1iHPv patents reduce the incentive to innovate #patents #pharmaOct 08 07:32
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gnufreex*I didn't really see alien, just made comparison. They want paint picture wher shills are as rare as little greem men.Oct 08 07:33
gnufreex*greenOct 08 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia - http://zd.net/9ywbMJ #patent thickets anyone?Oct 08 07:35
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schestowitzgnufreex: don't know about your alien anology (no strong evidence for it), but we do have evidence of Microsoft shillsOct 08 07:36
schestowitzTechrights posted many articles about it in 2009Oct 08 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody IOW, Microsoft pays Acacia.Oct 08 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody Groklaw perceives that as Microsoft rewarding those ex-Softies who work in Acacia and sue Red Hat et al.Oct 08 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Access Co. Ltd feeds anti- !Linux patent troll #Acacia w/ #swpats http://ur1.ca/207a0 http://ur1.ca/207a2Oct 08 07:40
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gnufreexhttp://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/microsoft-and-adobe-chiefs-meet-to-discuss-partnerships/Oct 08 07:42
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gnufreexMicrosoft might aquire Adobe.Oct 08 07:43
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/54383534#notice-54846137 "@schestowitz no pre-order for the server CD yet https://shipit.ubuntu.com/"Oct 08 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Teach.gov using #Drupal http://buytaert.net/teach-gov-using-drupal Teach our children #freesoftware !fsOct 08 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] OMG! Technics stops producing the SL1200 and the SL1210MK2 ... This is a sad day :-( #vinylOct 08 08:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia - http://zd.net/9ywbMJ #patent th ...Oct 08 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 14 beta review http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/fedora-14-beta-review/ "All in all, Fedora 14 is shaping up quite nicely."Oct 08 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz !Fedora 14 beta review http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/fedora-14-beta-review/ "All in all, Fedora 14 is shaping up q ...Oct 08 08:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Simply #Mepis 8.5 challenge: the first four days http://ur1.ca/207kb "...Mepis is satisfactory up to this point." !debianOct 08 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Open Compliance Resources Now Available - http://bit.ly/diOEtV "Recommended Practices in a FOSS Compliance Management Process”Oct 08 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz]    Gaming is Alive and Well on !Linux http://ur1.ca/207lh http://ur1.ca/207liOct 08 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SillySoft launches Castle Vox boardgame | MacNN .::. Size~: 77.65 KBOct 08 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @yamatt: Have a look at this new Vauxhall on UK TV. See if you can spot @fabsh making a guest appearance in it http://is.gd/fQdggOct 08 08:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - New Vauxhall Meriva 2010 - Embrace Life tv ad   .::. Size~: 120.55 KBOct 08 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Johnny Depp, dressed as Captain Jack Sparrow, shows up at school http://ur1.ca/207n8 #awesomeOct 08 08:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Johnny Depp comes to school to help 9-year-old mutiny against teachers - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.34 KBOct 08 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] More proof Ubuntu is in cahoots with #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/203ut !linux #wtfOct 08 08:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Ubuntu Won't Moan To EU About Microsoft .::. Size~: 141.85 KBOct 08 08:32
schestowitz"@schestowitz there are doubtless multiple motivations" http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/26725975008Oct 08 08:32
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schestowitzAcacia..Oct 08 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Internet Explorer now down to 50% worldwide market share. !chromeOct 08 08:35
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gnufreexLefty is bugging me on identica. I will just ignore him.Oct 08 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] You can now set wallpapers via the web with AppBrain. Cool! :D !lo #androidOct 08 08:37
DiabloD3whats his identica name?Oct 08 08:38
gnufreexLeftyOct 08 08:38
gnufreexin fact leftyOct 08 08:38
gnufreexlitle lOct 08 08:38
schestowitzDiabloD3:crazy theory you got thereOct 08 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @evan any idea why Răzvan Sandu ( @rsandu ) cannot access his account? It seems like system misflagging. Sandu is an excellent user.Oct 08 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @diablod3 "Running Windows on a Pentium is like having a brand new Porsche but only be able to drive backwards with the handbrake on. ...Oct 08 08:39
schestowitzgnufreex: don't ingoreOct 08 08:39
schestowitzBLOCK.Oct 08 08:39
DiabloD3should I troll before or after eating?Oct 08 08:39
schestowitzHe's blocked by the FS types in Identi.ca already. They can't stand this Mac troll.Oct 08 08:40
gnufreexschestowitz: blocking wound stop him from sending commens. I will just not see it.Oct 08 08:40
gnufreexANd some are funny.Oct 08 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @diablod3 eh ?Oct 08 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Geek time. Trying to only use Screens in terminal today; twitvim, irssi, w3m, mutt. See if I can survie the day, gui-free.Oct 08 08:40
DiabloD3is gotunandan in here?Oct 08 08:41
schestowitzgnufreex: so redirect them to account @toiletOct 08 08:41
schestowitzDiabloD3: noOct 08 08:41
gnufreexI want to see him when he trolls other people, so I can know what is on mobbyists agenda now. sceshowitzOct 08 08:42
DiabloD3I wonder who he isOct 08 08:42
gnufreexschhestowitz: There is a connection between FM and Lefty's agenda. So I can predict their next move based who they troll.Oct 08 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Fix NO_PUBKEY Error For The Extras Ubuntu Repository http://bit.ly/atk2jgOct 08 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @threethirty: QOTD: "Q: Why is it written in Mono/C#? A: Because I hate freedom." via sparkleshare-0.2-beta1 READMEOct 08 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @gotunandan Ubuntu is slowly turning into Microsoft Linux, complete with Mono-powered Gnome 3 hot swpat on swpat actionOct 08 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @diablod3 ok !Oct 08 08:52
schestowitzThis guy is SOOOO fired. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QVzKihKiYIOct 08 08:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Newsman Laughs at Diplomat named "Dikshit"   .::. Size~: 127.62 KBOct 08 08:56
schestowitzSuspended for 2 weeks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJgJjaY-pTc&feature=relatedOct 08 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @PeterGriffinn: Did you know that "Dammit I'm Mad" spelled backwards is "Dammit I'm Mad?"Oct 08 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Gallium3D / LLVMpipe With LLVM 2.8: While LLVM 2.8 was just released, we have been curious to see how the latest L... http://bit.ly/cZYqQwOct 08 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Gallium3D / LLVMpipe With LLVM 2.8 .::. Size~: 18.09 KBOct 08 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @richslxh: Internet Explorer now down to 50% worldwide market share. !chromeOct 08 09:09
sebsebsebDiabloD3: Ubuntu Microsoft Linux?Oct 08 09:10
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvZRM-P46rIOct 08 09:11
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schestowitzDiabloD3: ubuntu actually reduced some mono depsOct 08 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Get Sinosplice Tooltips from the WordPress Plugin Directory - http://bit.ly/cpmw9d "to create tooltips for Chinese" #wordpress #chineseOct 08 09:12
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schestowitzIt seems to be some goup which denies Obama's birth cert :-) Heh.Oct 08 09:14
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK6lpJOSD6w&feature=relatedOct 08 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Police Arrest Operator of Mulve Downloading App - http://bit.ly/cH07JJ "To bring criminal action against them seems utterly absurd." bulliesOct 08 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Police Arrest Operator of Mulve Downloading App | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 36.94 KBOct 08 09:14
schestowitzHehe. Tea Party is soi delusional.Oct 08 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC history of world in 100 objects. For 100th object, idea 1of 5 is a football shirt. Reason given it represents copyright & globalisationOct 08 09:19
MinceRy helo tharOct 08 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/10/2010: !Linux #Tablet Price Goes Down Under $200, !Fedora 14 Beta Preview http://ur1.ca/20819 !techrightsOct 08 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Putting the cuffs on Duane Kerzic http://ur1.ca/2081jOct 08 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Can't find the command for replying to a specific user/dent in !twitvimOct 08 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I just joined #openhatch - you should too. #tosw #possesaOct 08 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Having a ball - http://bit.ly/9GIxor good piece about thriving music industry, apart from stupid comments about "stealing" #music #scarcityOct 08 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's working in music: Having a ball | The Economist .::. Size~: 61.68 KBOct 08 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I'm so excited about !F14 I almost can't waitOct 08 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now, THIS is how one should be writing about Stuxnet. Thanks, Bruce! http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/10/stuxnet.html #fbOct 08 09:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: Stuxnet .::. Size~: 75.36 KBOct 08 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "I went to the Internet and all I got was this lousy animated GIF" #careersincareersindigitalartOct 08 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Blackberry saved from UAE ban, have RIM handed over the house keys? ur1.ca/208chOct 08 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] FBI Wanted poster for Mr. Tobechi Onwuhara, CEO of record label "S.W.A.T. Up Entertainment": http://bit.ly/bNLfP6 Wanted for online crimes.Oct 08 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FBI  TOBECHI ENYINNA ONWUHARA .::. Size~: 29.32 KBOct 08 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer I hope he changed his hairstyle. Wanted Dread & Alive and all.... ;)Oct 08 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @KaiserKuo Liu Xiaobo awarded the Nobel Peace Prize >>this will be fun to watch #china #nobelOct 08 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... This page is awesome: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber - I like the old guy who made outlaw satellite equipment, very cool! :DOct 08 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh RMS is on there! But they got his name wrong (BAJRAM ASLLANI) :P Top 10 Wanted list.Oct 08 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh LOL! Also nice to see that they are still looking for Osama.... :DOct 08 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] CPCs in sheep's clothing http://ur1.ca/208l4Oct 08 10:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Liu Xiaobo, currently in prison in China for supporting Human Rights, has won the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize http://tinyurl.com/24u5nlsOct 08 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China's Liu leads Kohl, EU in Peace Nobel race: TV| Reuters .::. Size~: 62.77 KBOct 08 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Liu Xiaobo, currently in prison in China for supporting Human Rights, has won the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize http://ur1.ca/208naOct 08 10:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chinese dissident Liu wins Nobel Peace Prize - CNN.com .::. Size~: 48.61 KBOct 08 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Has Lost Money for 3 Straight Years, But CEO's Bonus Still Grossly Inflated http://ur1.ca/208nnOct 08 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell Has Lost Money for 3 Straight Years, But CEOs Bonus Still Grossly Inflated | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.74 KBOct 08 10:29
sebsebsebhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010100701435OPMSLLOct 08 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Computer health certificates for surfing the Internet? Are you serious? .::. Size~: 81.87 KBOct 08 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Who cares?Oct 08 10:35
gnufreexJust stumbled upon this: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html   That would be all true by now in world without RMS.Oct 08 10:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Right to Read - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) .::. Size~: 27.41 KBOct 08 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Is there a free distro I can just install and use on Kindle? No answers so far. :-)Oct 08 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality The kindle is one of those "but it's Linux so it's Open Source so what's the problem?" things. I use a BeBook running OpenInkpot.Oct 08 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Subscribing to the new feeds at http://faif.usOct 08 10:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free as in Freedom .::. Size~: 4.07 KBOct 08 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality IMO getting a freed device helps keep it free&isa good conversation starter.Some say we shouldn't support nonfree manufacturers thoOct 08 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm seeing stuff about #Mulve becoming !OpenSource http://goo.gl/tA4HOct 08 10:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu One Indicator Applet http://bit.ly/92sWXqOct 08 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality Yes and yes. Apple locked down iPods so you can't free them for example, which wasted the efforts to keep supporting them.Oct 08 11:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu One Indicator Applet ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 68.41 KBOct 08 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] open source services provider appeal procurement case in Swiss http://ur1.ca/208x4 /by @Sjig « English Translation » http://goo.gl/lJyHOct 08 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beschwerde wegen 42-Millionen Vergabe an Microsoft geht ans Bundesgericht | Blog Digitale Nachhaltigkeit .::. Size~: 26.44 KBOct 08 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why is so much of the news I want today in languages I can read?Oct 08 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !OpenSource as an Alternative to Commercial Software on #Scribd http://scr.bi/bYZiyX #readcast /by @mailforlenOct 08 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Some thoughts on the reasons for doing opensource hardware http://is.gd/fR5Tr via @dcuartiellesOct 08 11:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The moral imperative for open-source hardware. (David A. Mellis) .::. Size~: 8.26 KBOct 08 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I confess: I don't really understand the use of the phrase "Open Source" here http://goo.gl/msChOct 08 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: E Crime Solutions - Training, Computer Forensics, Data Recovery, eDiscovery throughout Wirral, Merseyside and Cheshire .::. Size~: 5.95 KBOct 08 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Fedora 14 Well On Its Way to a Desktop Near You | Linux Journal Review http://ping.fm/gTtQgOct 08 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple Distorts the Media http://ur1.ca/2094g A closer look at how Apple is fooling a lot of peopleOct 08 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 14 Well On Its Way to a Desktop Near You | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 42.34 KBOct 08 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Distorts the Media | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.38 KBOct 08 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Software Evolution Storylines - http://bit.ly/cn6nU8 "developers are clustered by the files they modify" v.cool #visualisationOct 08 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was wondering why MS would lobby to make #swpats easier to overturn. How would one of the biggest abusers benefit more than be hurt?Oct 08 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I like the new !debian q&a http://ask.debian.net/ Could help new debian users who are a bit scared of IRC and the official debian forums.Oct 08 11:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian - Debian related questions? We can help you .::. Size~: 49.72 KBOct 08 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Renewable Gas http://ur1.ca/2095qOct 08 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ms must have weighed the situation up and think that under the new system they will be successfully sued less than they do others.Oct 08 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality It's more everything except Kindle implements it...Oct 08 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Gonna try my best to hook up to a server for the Tottenham vs Fulham match on Saturday. Missing too many games this season !spurs !footballOct 08 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @gijs: open source services provider appeal procurement case in Swiss http://ur1.ca/208x4Oct 08 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Or do they think that for them the threat of legal action is often enough for success and they can always defend under a friendlier system?Oct 08 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beschwerde wegen 42-Millionen Vergabe an Microsoft geht ans Bundesgericht | Blog Digitale Nachhaltigkeit .::. Size~: 26.44 KBOct 08 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @reality 3 things !debian has a bad reputation for; Being hard to configure, Irc, forums. Completely unwarranted, so maybe the Q&A will helpOct 08 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @reality It's just not the same. Like UB40 without Ali Campbell, Van Halen without Roth, etc.Oct 08 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @reality I get you. It's just that Fish really made the band IMO. I'll try to check out some new Fishless Marillion on lastfm.Oct 08 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Continues Downward Slide After Missing Another Chance to Sell http://ur1.ca/209dw #novl #nhs #financeOct 08 11:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell Continues Downward Slide After Missing Another Chance to Sell | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.18 KBOct 08 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz They didn't sell to Vmware? That was stupid. I quite like Vmware, like Opera and Dropbox, they play it straight with FLOSSOct 08 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz I don't mean those companies are FLOSS friendly: just that they don't mess about. Their stuff works really well on Linux.Oct 08 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] http://ask.debian.net/ #boo You need a reputation of 100 to vote an answer down. So new users can't eliminate rubbish answers.Oct 08 11:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian - Debian related questions? We can help you .::. Size~: 49.73 KBOct 08 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl, check the totally unconnected soap opera brewing in the comments http://bit.ly/9BhWpiOct 08 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Smeegol !Linux Has a #Mono Problem http://ur1.ca/209i7 Microsoft APIs instead of LSB-based MeeGo #lsb #qt #novell #bansheeOct 08 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spammers Using SHY Character to Hide Malicious URLs | threatpost .::. Size~: 77.47 KBOct 08 12:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Smeegol Linux Has a Mono Problem | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.67 KBOct 08 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh @methoddan Know any hitmen?Oct 08 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Private health company lobbyists and the UK Government secretary of state for health http://ur1.ca/209k3Oct 08 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I hate when management is restructuring in my company, It always only get worse, and we end up with some way to big changes.Oct 08 12:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Hey Guys, I am going to Bikaner for RajasFOSS festival. Hope team have worked well to bring schools in ... http://bit.ly/9Y1ZzwOct 08 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] sites.google.com/site/n3td3v/latest/whatweknowaboutstuxnet ‘people who developed it weren't told what they were working on’ #diehard4Oct 08 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] !Utd reports loss of £80m The days of spending big are over, despite the lies SAF spouts about "not wanting to" http://bbc.in/9aDDqIOct 08 12:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Manchester United reports loss of £80m .::. Size~: 50.9 KBOct 08 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Ok, now I'm looking for the M•CORE Reference Manual (Motorola document order number MCORERM/AD)Oct 08 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Amen! :-)Oct 08 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @reality starts with a group of anon. hackers each designing parts of a worm to attack infrastructure… so pretty much.Oct 08 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] "Everybody wants to rule the world" !q Ken Boothe (NOT Tears for Fears)Oct 08 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @thornet: Awesome write-up of the #FCRC keynote by @thisisparker: http://is.gd/fRa0D [...]Oct 08 12:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Culture Research Blog  » Blog Archiv   » Geert Lovink keynote: After the Critique of Free and Open: Alternative Platforms and Revenue Models .::. Size~: 17.48 KBOct 08 12:21
kadet_123novell people found a new source to spread mono propagandaOct 08 12:21
kadet_123http://nowwhatthe.blogspot.com/2010/10/smeegol-conferences-and-cash.htmlOct 08 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: nowwhatthe: Smeegol, Conferences and cash .::. Size~: 29.55 KBOct 08 12:21
kadet_123this blog appears at kde.orgOct 08 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Pledge for Democracy http://ur1.ca/209ozOct 08 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] What is it with all the recanting cyberprophets at the moment?Oct 08 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] And now, chainsaws. It's not like I'm trying to work or anything.Oct 08 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the library in town. Gotta read up on some stuff...Oct 08 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality I think they're just at that age.Oct 08 12:32
schestowitzHey, pawelOct 08 12:34
schestowitznm, he's goneOct 08 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] ♺ @OReillyMedia: #Ebook Deal of the Day: Autotools from @NoStarch - Only $14.99. Use code DDNST http://oreil.ly/bu8DfqOct 08 12:35
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/54880044 "@thejranjan try the !trisquel 4.0.1 it has fixed the ati issues http://is.gd/fR3PF"Oct 08 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I have to admit !choqok does run a lot smoother on !kubuntu 10.10 - now I just have to get used to the KDE desktop. Learning all over againOct 08 12:37
twittergot a really with it friend who uses Facebook through their iPhone or Android?Oct 08 12:37
twitterrms points out that Bill Gates now has your cell phone number http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/oct/06/facebook-privacy-phone-numbers-uploadOct 08 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Is your private phone number on Facebook? Probably. And so are your friends' | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 202.59 KBOct 08 12:38
twitternice!Oct 08 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner you might think of old vmware. The new one is run by ex-Microsoft execs.Oct 08 12:39
twitterI have avoided non free "smart phones" for just this reason.  Facebook has been nice enough to make my reasons obvious to everyone.Oct 08 12:39
twitterNow that the cat is out of the bag, expect advertisers to start using cell phone numbers like they are going out of style.Oct 08 12:40
twitterYears ago, I speculated that Microsoft and others had offshored parts of their astroturfing.  Several articles have been written about the thousands of Chinese paid posters on line.  Huffington Post has this new one  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/usha-haley/chinas-fifty-cent-party-f_1_b_749989.htmlOct 08 12:46
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twitter->  "two years ago, President Hu called on the CCP's members to "assert supremacy over online public opinion, raise the level and study the art of online guidance and actively use new technologies to increase the strength of positive propaganda." After Hu's speech, the State Council advertised for "comrades of good ideological and political character, high capability and familiarity with the Internet to form teams of Web commentators... wOct 08 12:48
twitterand I thought US corporate and military efforts to project power onto "cyberspace" were bad, it seems they are one and the same.Oct 08 12:49
twitterFlorian writes like a member of the "fifty cent party" I wonder what Microsoft's rate really boils down toOct 08 12:51
schestowitzHIOct 08 12:52
twitterShock, horror, you don't think honest US astroturfers would sub contract their work to China do you?Oct 08 12:52
twittergood morning, Roy.Oct 08 12:52
oiaohmProfit really rules too much twitterOct 08 12:52
schestowitzsilner> "I confess I haven't used it for a while. It got me into Linux though - allowed me to play with various distros to suit me' http://twitter.com/silner/status/26740181581Oct 08 12:52
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schestowitzI wonder if VMware still aims to buy Novell's SUSEOct 08 12:53
oiaohmFor VMware SUSE would be a worth while aquirement.Oct 08 12:53
oiaohmEven the hyper-v interlink tech.Oct 08 12:53
schestowitzhype-v?Oct 08 12:54
twitterWoW, Windows on Windows - when you absolutely, positively must fail to provide service.Oct 08 12:56
oiaohmSo that schestowitz MS has to provide vmware with interface drivers.  schestowitzOct 08 12:56
twitterThe last place I worked tried to use Microsoft virtulization stuff.Oct 08 12:56
twitterIt crashed five times a day and more.Oct 08 12:57
twitterThe error messages were long, detailed and as crazy as you might expect.Oct 08 12:57
twitter32 bit Windows emulation on 64 bit Windows, ewww.Oct 08 12:58
twitterall sorts of dlls blew up regularly.Oct 08 12:58
twitterI've never seen such an unstable platform.Oct 08 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Report on the market flash crash of may 6th out: http://is.gd/fRcit #sec #weltmachtgeldOct 08 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Playing Eternal Lands!!! A very nice Linux RPG. Done with very attention to details!Oct 08 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] MEPs Warn of a "Data Wild West" http://ur1.ca/20a3s #dataprotection #privacyOct 08 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Pays #Acacia Again and It Also Pays ACCESS Co. http://ur1.ca/20a5r @horaciog still extorts w/ #swpats . #msft #patents #redhatOct 08 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @jabz: Some more useful #Chrome #Extensions - goo.gl/bnya #browser #webdevelopment #webdevOct 08 13:02
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twitterLOL, the Huffington Post idiotically concludes that the fifty cent party is not a US problem, as if US companies have not hired out the same people for their own purposes.Oct 08 13:03
twitter"In the USA, diverse interest groups sponsor and fund the information we consume. However, we generally have awareness of funding sources behind campaigns to sway our opinions. Unlike the Fifty Cent Party's propaganda, most US web campaigns have short lives and employ relatively few people."Oct 08 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Report on the market flash crash of may 6th out: http://is.gd/fRcit #sec #weltmachtgeldOct 08 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz "Microsoft - we've patented your everything, where do you want to go today?" ;-)Oct 08 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Why and How Indian govt can get huge benefits from Free Software/Open Source http://tinyurl.com/22w497p... http://bit.ly/9M4Um5Oct 08 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @satipera MEPs Warn of a "Data Wild West" http://ur1.ca/20a3s #dataprotection !privacy !ACTA !billC32 <going on longer than i thoughtOct 08 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @tordotcom Black Library giving away free ebook copy of First and Only by Dan Abnett - point your browsers here: http://ur1.ca/20aas !fcOct 08 13:20
schestowitzWe have no posts disparaging hype-v technicallyOct 08 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Cops will be cops http://ur1.ca/20acnOct 08 13:24
schestowitzthere ought to be more out thereOct 08 13:24
schestowitzMaybe jperlow, but he's too apathetic about hype-VOct 08 13:24
abeNd-orgwith windows 2008 R2 SP1, they are bringing it on par feature for feature, especially the memory managementOct 08 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Good roundup of #possesa and next steps by gruntus - we will be back, I guess! http://is.gd/fRf82Oct 08 13:26
abeNd-organything else missing wont matter to most people, they will consider it "good enough" & adopt it, dropping xen/vmware/kvm/etcOct 08 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] 74 % des bébés français sont présents sur Internet http://is.gd/fRfejOct 08 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Resistance is NOT Futile → Spiegel Online: EU Parliament Threatens Resistance http://ur1.ca/20acm !privacy !ACTA #dataprotectionOct 08 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sitting on the Rhine, smoking a cigar and thinking about shit.Oct 08 13:29
twitterit is hard to disparage something so few are using, Microsoft takes advantage of people's ignoranceOct 08 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "...US authorities monitored the bank transfers of tens of thousands of European citizens for years..." http://ur1.ca/20acm !privacy !ACTAOct 08 13:31
twitterI can say that VMware works much better than Microsoft virtualization junk.Oct 08 13:31
twittermy current employer uses Vmware.  it makes Windows 2008 look stable and also does a nice job of running a few Debian machines.Oct 08 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay @flameeyestinderbox has been banned again… maybe I should be setting up a !Statusnet instance myself… !gentooOct 08 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @renata For those who want to learn more about #CC0 http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0 #FCRCOct 08 13:32
abeNd-orgthe current hyperv doesnt have the memory management that vmware doesOct 08 13:32
abeNd-orghowever 2008 R2 SP1 does resolve that issueOct 08 13:32
twitterthe tech who set it up was ousted and replaced by a Microsoft partnerOct 08 13:33
abeNd-organd to most, that was the last big lacking that hyperv had against vmwareOct 08 13:33
twitterwell, I've seen both usedOct 08 13:34
abeNd-orgyea, im more of a vmware fan/user myselfOct 08 13:34
twitterhyperV was totally unstable, despite being deployed by a former Microsoft employee - a person who helped design Windows.Oct 08 13:34
abeNd-orgbut, with that upcoming service pack, like i said before, it will make HYPEr-v "good enough"Oct 08 13:35
twitterlike Vista is "good enough" ?Oct 08 13:35
oiaohmvmware memory management is patented. abeNd-orgOct 08 13:35
oiaohmLinux kernel has permission to use it for KSM.  abeNd-orgOct 08 13:35
oiaohmBasically MS hyper-v is screwed on that reguard.Oct 08 13:36
twitterThe sooner Microsoft fails, the better off the world is.Oct 08 13:36
abeNd-orghttp://blogs.technet.com/b/virtualization/archive/2010/03/18/dynamic-memory-coming-to-hyper-v.aspxOct 08 13:36
oiaohmAnd MS will be sued.  abeNd-orgOct 08 13:36
abeNd-orgwell, patent or not, it looks like they are doing itOct 08 13:36
twitterMicrosoft does not care about patents except to threaten and extort other companies.Oct 08 13:37
twitterThey think they are above the law.Oct 08 13:37
oiaohmThis case not.Oct 08 13:37
abeNd-organd neither do microsoft usersOct 08 13:37
oiaohmPlease find a latter mention of it than may.  abeNd-orgOct 08 13:38
oiaohmYou will not.Oct 08 13:38
twitterpeople deploying hypeV don't know what they are doing.Oct 08 13:38
MinceRthey are above the law, as long as they can afford buying the courtsOct 08 13:38
abeNd-orgwe already have customers that want to move off their free esxi over to hyperv because they are "more comfortable with a microsoft offering" now that it has the dynamic memory management with the upcoming sp1Oct 08 13:38
twitterthey can't buy the courts, so they are trying to buy some more lawsOct 08 13:38
abeNd-orgthe ones with vsphere clusters are staying with it, at least for nowOct 08 13:39
MinceRlolOct 08 13:39
MinceRtypical bullshit from a suit, that "more comfortable with a microsoft offering" one :>Oct 08 13:39
twitter"comfortable with a microsoft offering" == incompetentOct 08 13:40
MinceRindeedOct 08 13:40
MinceRno technical argumentsOct 08 13:40
abeNd-orgim just echoing what the customer wantsOct 08 13:40
abeNd-orgim not saying they know betterOct 08 13:40
MinceRi knowOct 08 13:40
twitterthey believe in corruptionOct 08 13:40
MinceRi'm just pointing out that they're clueless :)Oct 08 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #NuPack an Exercise in Open-Washing Proprietary Software http://ur1.ca/20akd #fauxpensource #outercurve #pr #openwashingOct 08 13:41
abeNd-orgmost will stay with esxi just due to having to pay for a new server & the labor to migrate over to hypervOct 08 13:41
twitterand think corruption will trump technical issuesOct 08 13:41
twitterthe fundamental mistake is trusting a dishonest companyOct 08 13:41
abeNd-orgbut others will move, mostly due to "golf course" IT management, that CxO wants his pure microsoft infrastructure just like his buddy, he doesnt dare to be differentOct 08 13:42
twitterthey trust Microsoft to screw others and think it will be easier to ride along.  They end up being screwed harder than anyone else.Oct 08 13:42
twitterthe word will get outOct 08 13:42
MinceRhyPervOct 08 13:42
oiaohmOk MS using different names to everyone else causing trouble.  Again. abeNd-orgOct 08 13:42
abeNd-organyways, im off to setup offsite backups for someplace, that will be a nice weight off my shouldersOct 08 13:43
twitterMicrosoft is good at perception management but people are not as dumb as Microsoft needs them to be.Oct 08 13:43
oiaohmKSM is memory space compression.  abeNd-orgOct 08 13:43
MinceRsadly, many people areOct 08 13:43
oiaohmSo host OS does not have to know its being done to it.  abeNd-orgOct 08 13:43
abeNd-orgyes but ksm doesnt have microsoft marketingOct 08 13:43
twitteryou will need lots of back ups with that "pure" Microsoft stackOct 08 13:43
oiaohmKVM also has another tech like what MS is using as well abeNd-orgOct 08 13:44
oiaohmIts the lower grade solution.  abeNd-orgOct 08 13:44
abeNd-orgheh, id want valid backups for any situation :P i could care less if its ms or linuxOct 08 13:44
twitteryou should care moreOct 08 13:45
MinceR+1Oct 08 13:45
oiaohmLInux is a better backup.Oct 08 13:45
oiaohmSince you can have a Os with the backup that you are sure will work.Oct 08 13:45
oiaohmWhat is the point of the backup if you cannot read it.Oct 08 13:45
oiaohmHeck any Open source unlimited install that supports modern hardware is a better selection for backup.Oct 08 13:46
twitterSince moving to free software ten years ago, I have not lost a single file by accident or technical failure.  Backups are only good for me when I intentionally delete something I did not really want to.Oct 08 13:47
MinceRor when a physical catastrophe happens and your hardware is destroyedOct 08 13:47
twittertools like rsync are a data saverOct 08 13:47
MinceRor when your hardware failsOct 08 13:47
MinceRetc.Oct 08 13:47
twitterI have only had one or two drives of dozens fail, and in both cases I was able to pull the data off before failure.Oct 08 13:48
MinceRyou might not be so lucky every time.Oct 08 13:48
twitterI keep multiple backups in different locations of the things I consider important.Oct 08 13:49
twitterthe fact is that I have never needed them.Oct 08 13:49
MinceRthat doesn't make your effort worthless :)Oct 08 13:49
twitterKatrina was a real wake up call.Oct 08 13:49
twitterI know people who lost everything, so I decided to make sure I could take my personal records, photos, music, movies, classwork and the most important components of my library with me in my pockets if needed.Oct 08 13:50
MinceRicOct 08 13:51
twitterafter five years of scanning and other effort, I have all of my photos and music, a lot of my records and parts of my libraryOct 08 13:52
MinceRwhat media did you use?Oct 08 13:52
twitterexternal disk drivesOct 08 13:52
twitterand drivesOct 08 13:52
MinceRicOct 08 13:52
twittermy music and photos are also on optical disk, but that is done less these days.Oct 08 13:53
twitterone of the nice things about digitizing the photo albums is being able to share them with friendsOct 08 13:53
twitternot even my mom is that interested, but they are all available all the time wherever I have a network.Oct 08 13:53
oiaohmRemember sep 11.  twitterOct 08 13:53
oiaohmLot of companies that lived had backups that could be accessed from any OS.Oct 08 13:54
oiaohmSo it was not find a huge stack of cash to by windows or anything else to get up and running.Oct 08 13:54
twitterthere is no thermite in my hard drives, ha haOct 08 13:54
oiaohmReally?Oct 08 13:54
oiaohmThe right materials to make thermite are in a harddrive if you can do the right things to it. twitterOct 08 13:55
twitterKatrina taught me that salt water is more effectiveOct 08 13:55
oiaohmWhat level salt waterOct 08 13:55
oiaohmI have done recoveries on harddrives that have been in the sea for over 18 months.Oct 08 13:55
twitterbrakishOct 08 13:55
twitterno way, the surface is destroyedOct 08 13:56
oiaohmRemember to provide a fish tank air rator. twitterOct 08 13:56
twitterthe water gets in and turns the shiny surface into white powderOct 08 13:56
oiaohmAlumiun oxid twitterOct 08 13:57
oiaohmTured white is not destoried.Oct 08 13:57
twittersure, good luck getting a magnetic signal out of itOct 08 13:57
oiaohmDoneOct 08 13:57
oiaohmVery careful electroisOct 08 13:57
oiaohmBasically reverses the surface destruction.Oct 08 13:58
oiaohmSo making the plat placeable back in a drive and readable.Oct 08 13:58
twitterI'm not sure how you can arrange the tiny magnetic patterns back in place after corrosion has moved the surface half a mm.Oct 08 13:59
oiaohmIts no worse than other forms of damage plats take from being bent.  twitterOct 08 14:00
twitteranyway, privacy is not my biggest concern - most of it is shared over the web - but I'm moving it to encrypted drives anyway.Oct 08 14:00
oiaohmIf you want to do it with salt the currect process it.Oct 08 14:00
oiaohmair rate it the salt and have a very high salt content.Oct 08 14:01
oiaohmWhen it turns white buff that off and repeat the process.Oct 08 14:01
oiaohmUntill you are down to plat core.Oct 08 14:01
oiaohmRecovery then is truly impossible.  twitterOct 08 14:01
twitterIf I wanted to get rid of a drive, it would probably fall off a bridge.Oct 08 14:02
oiaohmThat is where the drives were from.  twitterOct 08 14:02
oiaohmA crim thought that was a good idea too.  twitterOct 08 14:02
twitterI'm not a criminal, thank you very much.Oct 08 14:03
oiaohmIts one of the areas police regularly check for things in some areas.  twitterOct 08 14:03
twitterMy concern is data portability.Oct 08 14:03
oiaohmSo a really bad place to drop items like harddrives.Oct 08 14:03
oiaohmMy favorite destrution method is furnace.Oct 08 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Mobile phone mashups: Imitation becomes innovation in China http://bit.ly/aobGO6 #opensourceOct 08 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !coreboot is looking for hackers to compile and test flashrom 0.9.3 for PowerPC and MIPS. Help the Libre bios! !fsf !gnu !lp !lpitaliaOct 08 14:04
oiaohmThe metal in harddrive plats is a nice aloy that never rusts.  twitterOct 08 14:04
oiaohmUnder normal conditions.Oct 08 14:05
twitterMy biggest privacy concern are my non free software using friends.Oct 08 14:05
twittermost of my email and chat are unencryptedOct 08 14:05
twitterthe bad guys have more of my life than I doOct 08 14:05
twitterfreedom box is the futureOct 08 14:06
oiaohmSince I do data recovery.Oct 08 14:06
oiaohmwhen I am disposing of my harddrives its a chance to experment.  twitterOct 08 14:07
oiaohmAnd try all kinds of different destruction methods.Oct 08 14:07
twitterwell, it's time for me to go to work.Oct 08 14:07
oiaohmI will say using high grade acid is highly not wise with some brands of drives.  twitterOct 08 14:08
twitterkeep up all the good spooky work, ohm.Oct 08 14:08
twitterlater.Oct 08 14:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @renata #FCRC sometimes research related to development issues funded by US, EU, etc. is locked under !copyrightOct 08 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @renata #FCRC ...people needing info not legally allowed 2 translate. International Aid agencies should adopt open licenses! !libreplanetOct 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European Parliament Swallows the #RAND Poison Pill http://ur1.ca/20awc #EP #rand #swpats #europe #microsoft #api #tax !fsOct 08 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] P2P extortion scam profitable http://ur1.ca/20azjOct 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Is Netflix's Inventory Of Streaming Content Growing Fast Enough? | The Business Of Online Video http://bit.ly/dkfeZpOct 08 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Saving Identica and StatusNet? (FSM): http://bit.ly/9sT7VrOct 08 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital Standards Organization publishes "standards for standards" - http://bit.ly/bUzC5x I *do* like a bit of meta #standardsOct 08 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn @kaz @faif I *love* in-depth technical discussion. I just can't do it myself cause I suck...Oct 08 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Ren_Thompson RT Ravi_Matah "Security is mostly a superstition; life is either a daring adventure or nothing." ~Helen Keller !qOct 08 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Microsoft granted patent covering to-do lists http://bit.ly/bNrmcU #linux WTF !?!?!?Oct 08 14:51
DiabloD3lefty works for microsoft, right?Oct 08 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Firefox 4 beta for Android and Maemo http://lwn.net/Articles/409216/rssOct 08 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US Government continues with plan to commit economic terrorism against US citizens http://ur1.ca/20b7m #wtf #policestateOct 08 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cleaning the toilet. Some podcasts are in order for this, methinks....Oct 08 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Well it is time for weekend... cya allOct 08 14:56
DiabloD3http://identi.ca/conversation/54402446Oct 08 14:56
DiabloD3so lets see how he deals with this.Oct 08 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Sometimes I hate #OpenSSH: ssh-copy-id does not take the same parameters as ssh, and says nothing about unknown parameters!Oct 08 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "There lived a certain man, In Russia long ago..."Oct 08 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Guys, let's welcome David and @tuxbrain to the !Fedora community. They know what community-driven means!Oct 08 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] SCO: What did it All Mean? - http://bit.ly/9JWQHJ "FOSS/OSS is far stronger than it likely would have been had not SCO destroyed itself"Oct 08 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Chinese dissident Liu wins Nobel Peace Prize - Yahoo! News" from http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/nobel_peace_prizeOct 08 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oxymoron of Corporate Controlled "Community" Projects - http://bit.ly/ct7XhF "corps must spin their projects out as independent entities"Oct 08 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The BBC: an open and shut case of corporate schizophrenia? - http://bit.ly/bv0g0f good point #netneutrality #drmOct 08 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @reality yesOct 08 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @reality which is not to say we shouldn't fight for !privacy or attempt to make the world more secureOct 08 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Definition of irony: "zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) gdb"Oct 08 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ha, o novo twitter copiou o Identi.CAOct 08 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Wiener Parteien: Freie Software !fs ja gerne, aber... Aktion der Fellowship-Gruppe Wien im Standard: http://ur1.ca/20bis !fsfeOct 08 15:26
FurnaceBoytwitter | The sooner Microsoft fails, the better off the world is. <--- AMen.Oct 08 15:26
FurnaceBoytwitter | "comfortable with a microsoft offering" == incompetent <-- AMen.Oct 08 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to @Allison_Crowe "Skeletons and Spirits" on !jamendo http://ur1.ca/20bm2 ... working on !InconstantMoon polish !editOct 08 15:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @telecomix No country has signed !ACTA yet, make sure no country will!! Fight the kiss of death http://bit.ly/aymMsCOct 08 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] internet.com talks about OpenSCAP in Fedora 14: http://ur1.ca/2068tOct 08 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Pacman and Hartley http://ur1.ca/20bpp #APODOct 08 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] What is up with Google Reader this morning...it is crawling!Oct 08 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The future of filmmaking-and film watching-is in openness and participation. http://bit.ly/c6Ch0W @straycinema @moviepals @inflammableprodOct 08 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] !fedora new website design really close now. check out the 'using fedora' section in staging: http://ur1.ca/20brs tutorials & interviews!Oct 08 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @mathias “Flash eats babies, and it kicked your grandma down the stairs yesterday” — @themaninblue, #fronteers10Oct 08 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copied pleadings show there's no honor among antipiracy lawyers - http://bit.ly/cHjMsg #copyright infringement, what's that?Oct 08 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] RT @pramodxyle: cool, the template designed by me is gonna ship with #kpresenter 2.3...:) !kde !kofficeOct 08 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Wiener Parteien wollen Freie Software !fs - und was passiert? http://ur1.ca/20btf !fsfeOct 08 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] REVIEW: OpenAstroMenace 1.2.0 http://tinyurl.com/2uc7crn !linux !gaming !fossOct 08 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @mairin the "placeholder" could have some interesting non-geeky (if thats the aim) fact about the Fedora project. Dunno exactly what thoughOct 08 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CBC Bans Use of Creative Commons Music on Podcasts - http://bit.ly/9CZDID disgraceful - the true face of music biz #cc #canadaOct 08 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Gilmore on the "computer health certificate" plan http://lwn.net/Articles/409224/rssOct 08 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Talent agencies get CC banned from CBC - http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/boingboing/iBag/~3/Z_3IaSve5R0/cbc-agreement-with-t.htmlOct 08 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @gotunandan i'm running through my local instance and adding some. it might be cool to rotate them at some future point :) - static nowOct 08 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @glynmoody whoah that's sick. wtf.Oct 08 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Data sharing code of practice - http://bit.ly/9y00hm comments invited #datasharing #ico #privacy #ukOct 08 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Policing in the 21st Century: the role of transparency in Big Society - http://bit.ly/9cLGoz some hopeful signs #transparency #policingOct 08 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil battles spread of 'mad soy disease' - http://bit.ly/aj7q5Z eek, sounds nasty #soy #brazilOct 08 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality Jeez will you shut up about freedom just for a moment! ;-)Oct 08 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! :D ♺ @th3k4ty: looking for human brain lysate. any offerings?Oct 08 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An open Open University course on openness - http://bit.ly/aZzdhA "first time we are running the course in the open" #openness #ouOct 08 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ok now GMail is acting funky...what is going on?!?Oct 08 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @mohanpram Google is spying on you, the US has 1000 'non combat' troops in iraq, and !acta is out to kill isOct 08 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] W3C Says HTML5 Isn’t Ready for the Web http://ur1.ca/20c12Oct 08 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening Research on Open Source - http://bit.ly/b24asZ "I propose an effort for sharing reusable data on open source" #research #opensourceOct 08 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ♺ @spot: Are you a sysadmin guru? Do you love solving infrastructure challenges with FOSS? Come work for Fedora! http://is.gd/fRrB9Oct 08 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Fair and square http://ur1.ca/20c3iOct 08 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality I'd rather they got David Hasselhoff to do a special cover version of "Looking For Freedom".Oct 08 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality @gomerx There's more where that came from - http://robmyers.org/art/cybernetic_artworld http://robmyers.org/art/random_aestheticsOct 08 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Myth Of The "Lost Sale" http://bit.ly/dr4IGTOct 08 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality This will restore your sight - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ot_katYYiUOct 08 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Elementary Firefox Theme 3.0, Released, Looks Amazing! http://bit.ly/d5O12KOct 08 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Scientists: please stop putting rat brain cells into robots. You wouldn't like it if robots put your brains into rats.Oct 08 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @robmyers Hey! I object to that! Rat brain robots are cool. Especially with frikkin' lasers! :DOct 08 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @mairin yes, incredible; be interesting to see if the uproar changes their mind...Oct 08 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Schools that don't teach their students #Linux are placing those students at a disadvantage. http://bit.ly/bTwpRWOct 08 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality They are, yes.Oct 08 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft More Likely to Split Than to Merge With #3Adobe http://techrights.org/2010/10/08/adobe-rumors/Oct 08 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality Parody == Fair Use.Oct 08 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tune in to the live whale song network - http://bit.ly/aJeWa3 fab sounds #whalesOct 08 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay out of personal experience, #Dell vs #HP is 1-0; at least #Dell does not force me to use their stupid recoveries for #Win7 =_=Oct 08 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality https://identi.ca/conversation/54473426Oct 08 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft More Likely to Split Than to Merge With #Adobe http://is.gd/fRwiNOct 08 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality http://www.boingboing.net/2005/03/25/cadbury-trademarks-t.html <- non-free coloursOct 08 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Map of online ad market, US https://eff.org/r.3sQOct 08 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: Time to order new business cards. My division has been renamed to "IBM Collaboration Solutions", to better reflect our focus.Oct 08 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robmyers The kindle is one of those "but it's Linux so it's Open Source so what's the problem?" things.I use a BeBook running OpenInkpotOct 08 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: Congress passes bill to make Internet, smartphones accessible for blind, deaf / in USA... http://is.gd/fCpJyOct 08 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Another New Blog Post | Reflections On My First AGM http://bit.ly/cU6Db8Oct 08 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @maxb (pas pu résister) Je passe d'Ubuntu GNU/ #Linux à Debian Squeeze pour mon portable, le style est moins important que la libertéOct 08 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz If #Microsoft and #Adobe did merge, #Flash on Linux would quickly die.Oct 08 17:16
DiabloD3gnufreex: lefty is nuts, who is this guyOct 08 17:16
gnufreexDiabloD3: What guy?Oct 08 17:17
DiabloD3leftyOct 08 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Red Pepper (UK [far?] left wing magazine) has lots of interesting stuff in it this month including an article on Free CultureOct 08 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Map of online ad market, US https://eff.org/r.3sQOct 08 17:17
gnufreexThat is guy who regularily attacks RMS on GNOME mailing list. No supprises. DiabloD3Oct 08 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu I messaged evan about your account, hope that helped...Oct 08 17:21
DiabloD3gnufreex: hes not anti-swpatsOct 08 17:21
DiabloD3the guys nutsOct 08 17:21
DiabloD3http://identi.ca/conversation/54402446Oct 08 17:21
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schestowitzblock himOct 08 17:21
schestowitzMany are blocking him and saying so publicly, urging others to do the ameOct 08 17:22
DiabloD3schestowitz: urls to people blocking himOct 08 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Free Software's role in reducing IT debt http://is.gd/fRxOd #gnu #libre #freeOct 08 17:22
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schestowitzHold on...Oct 08 17:22
schestowitz"He's a liar and a professional troll, block him." http://ur1.ca/1ya54Oct 08 17:23
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schestowitzSeveral right there in this thread aloneOct 08 17:23
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/54474131#notice-54940588 "I got to say, that would be awesome"Oct 08 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @avpascal: cat de interesat este guvernul de sanatatea populatiei (printre altele, desigur): http://tinyurl.com/36sutlsOct 08 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 they can't quite. It would reduce the market value of Flash. Either way, Google would jump to webm @ youtube fasterOct 08 17:26
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DiabloD3schestowitz: give me a list of people who've blocked himOct 08 17:26
schestowitzI don't keep trackOct 08 17:26
gnufreexI just blocked him.Oct 08 17:26
schestowitzI'm not pathological enough to do that. It's this one thread where I saw itOct 08 17:26
gnufreexnowOct 08 17:26
ThistleWebschestowitz: maybe he just fancies you ala a 5yr old kid, who can't pluck up the courage, so they just sit and pull the girls pigtailsOct 08 17:27
ThistleWebhe does seem to have an obsession with youOct 08 17:27
schestowitz"Kinda like the Roku box I guess.. (hanging head in non-DRM-banning-shame) But dvd library for $8 a month is not bad" http://twitter.com/coolguy4linux/status/26764131484Oct 08 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Keep your distance http://ur1.ca/20cmjOct 08 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Thanks, it works now. I've received mail from support, antispam went into action (with no legitimate reason).Oct 08 17:29
schestowitz" huge new scandal looms for #Apple outsource #Foxconn based on damning report. #China http://bit.ly/cOfLzV " http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/26750662578Oct 08 17:29
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gnufreexDiabloD3, for what is worth, you are wrong there on Java. Sun didn't make any illegal provisions.Oct 08 17:29
gnufreexJava is GPL, Dalvik is not. That ends the story.Oct 08 17:30
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DiabloD3gnufreex: yes, but it was lefty's job to point that outOct 08 17:30
DiabloD3he didnt.Oct 08 17:30
DiabloD3that says A LOT about himOct 08 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Probably I've mentioned Microsoft too much and the antispam went mad ;-) Thanks a lot !Oct 08 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: Interesting to read the #SC34 business report. ODF and OOXML attract interest, but little else. Seeks new areas to remain viable.Oct 08 17:31
gnufreexWe know about him. He will spin anything against FLOSS.Oct 08 17:31
gnufreexHis job is to spread FUD.Oct 08 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @reality @zotz @gnufreex I'm blocking lefty because I'm tired of the pro-#swpat anti-!Java anti-!Linux trolling.Oct 08 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Geim Never Patented Graphene - http://bit.ly/d6tof8 "we will put a hundred patent lawyers on it to write a hundred patents a day": yupOct 08 17:34
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DiabloD3http://identi.ca/notice/54941814Oct 08 17:35
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DiabloD3failfailfailfailfailfailOct 08 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just for the record: I love my Katy! :)Oct 08 17:37
DiabloD3I pointed that one out to rmsOct 08 17:38
DiabloD3he should go apehsit soonOct 08 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @rms http://ur1.ca/20cpv Where did all these pro-#swpat people come from?Oct 08 17:39
gnufreexWhat's apehsit?Oct 08 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @reality *cough* product placement *cough*Oct 08 17:41
gnufreexDiabloD3?Oct 08 17:41
DiabloD3gnufreex: hulk.Oct 08 17:41
gnufreexRMS already got bashed by Lefty and De Icaza lots of times. He stayed calm and polite every time.Oct 08 17:42
DiabloD3but he has beard superpowersOct 08 17:42
gnufreexOne time they even proposed GNOME to split from GNU.Oct 08 17:42
Tekk_I'm for thatOct 08 17:42
DiabloD3really? I'd be happy if they did thatOct 08 17:42
DiabloD3infact, I'd help them packOct 08 17:43
gnufreexTekk_ : WHY?Oct 08 17:43
Tekk_they're gonna do whatever they want anyway, why have them taint gnu's name?Oct 08 17:43
Tekk_DiabloD3: exactlyOct 08 17:43
DiabloD3put them on a boat, push them out into the lake, and then set the boat on fire when they're half way outOct 08 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @schestowitz No idea. @support, can you check it out, please?Oct 08 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu was delighted to see you back on! We get all your dents posted in our #techrights IRC channelOct 08 17:44
gnufreexTekk_ It is not GNOME, it is De Icaza, Lefty, van Hoof and few other De Icaza folowers. They get remoed, and all will be fine.Oct 08 17:44
gnufreexLefty lots funding for trolling, he can't pay GNOME board membership anymore.Oct 08 17:45
gnufreexNovell is getting bought, maybe de Icaza will die or something.Oct 08 17:45
Tekk_gnufreex: *points out that de icaza was the one who originally wrote gnome*Oct 08 17:45
DiabloD3yes, what tekk saidOct 08 17:45
gnufreexYes he started it, but he doesn't do anything anymore.Oct 08 17:46
Tekk_O,oOct 08 17:46
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Tekk_gnome is available in 166 languagesOct 08 17:46
Tekk_I didn't know there were that many still in useOct 08 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera MEPs Warn of a "Data Wild West" http://ur1.ca/20a3s #dataprotection !privacy !ACTA !billC32 <going on longer than i thoughtOct 08 17:47
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gnufreexTekk_ he doesn't work on GNOME, not even Mono. He is just managing trolling camaings (evangelism), and advocating Microsoft technologies.Oct 08 17:47
Tekk_too bad he doesn't live in arizona, then we could use good old US racism to get him further away from MS :POct 08 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wine 1.2.1 Brings A Bunch Of Fixes: While a lot of new code has already been introduced into the Wine 1.3 developm... http://bit.ly/cwdVReOct 08 17:49
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gnufreexWine guys shitcaned Direct3DOct 08 17:50
gnufreexNo can do says themOct 08 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn can i see the logo? i haven't seen any links to it!Oct 08 17:51
Tekk_O.oOct 08 17:51
Tekk_isn't direct3d needed for like........everything now?Oct 08 17:51
gnufreexNo.. Not that way.Oct 08 17:51
Tekk_hmm?Oct 08 17:51
gnufreexI meant Linux native Direct3DOct 08 17:51
Tekk_ahOct 08 17:51
Tekk_as opposed to through wineOct 08 17:52
gnufreexVMware is creating Linux native Direc3DOct 08 17:52
gnufreexThey bought Tungsten GraphicsOct 08 17:52
gnufreexThey work on Gallium3DOct 08 17:52
Tekk_oh dear godOct 08 17:52
gnufreexAnd they now pluged Direct3D in GalalliumOct 08 17:52
Tekk_that's the biggest patent trap I could ever imagineOct 08 17:52
gnufreexYesOct 08 17:52
Tekk_go for it vmware! but take novell with you first!Oct 08 17:53
gnufreexI am sure VMware wil crosslicense.Oct 08 17:56
gnufreexWe can hate them next.Oct 08 17:56
Tekk_yayyyyOct 08 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, which logo? Conservancy logo @fabsh designed is on sfconservancy.org . First candidate !FaiFCast logo from @vinzv is: ur1.ca/204biOct 08 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn oh wow i really love the logo @fabsh did, kick ass!Oct 08 17:57
DiabloD3[12:52:41] <Tekk_> that's the biggest patent trap I could ever imagine\Oct 08 17:58
DiabloD3how so?Oct 08 17:58
DiabloD3and by the wayOct 08 17:58
DiabloD3its for d3d10/11 onlyOct 08 17:58
DiabloD3the API is pretty different from 9 and earlierOct 08 17:58
gnufreexReally, VMware is deader as KVM is better and better.Oct 08 17:58
Tekk_DX is probably the thing MS has patented the mostOct 08 17:59
DiabloD3its almost a carbon copy of gl3+future modeOct 08 17:59
Tekk_and the thing it's most willing to protectOct 08 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Thanks! If you look at the big version you actually see that all the leaves are 1s and 0s. :DOct 08 17:59
DiabloD3Tekk_: yes, but they cant patent anything here that GL isnt already in violation ofOct 08 17:59
Tekk_oh, so there's hopeOct 08 17:59
DiabloD3its just an APIOct 08 17:59
DiabloD3it works the same way GL3 in future mode does.Oct 08 17:59
Tekk_so they could basically just make it a wrapper?Oct 08 18:00
Tekk_coolOct 08 18:00
DiabloD3well, wine is "just a wrapper"Oct 08 18:00
DiabloD3they're making a native state tracker just to make it fasterOct 08 18:00
gnufreexBut there is again problem.Oct 08 18:00
DiabloD3theres no "problem"Oct 08 18:00
gnufreexGames will port to Linux and it will be DirectXOct 08 18:01
gnufreexThat is bad.,Oct 08 18:01
DiabloD3you can write D3D10/11 native code on linux... but you cant run that code on windowsOct 08 18:01
gnufreexThey should be OpenGLOct 08 18:01
DiabloD3and you cant take your windows code and compile it on linuxOct 08 18:01
DiabloD3so you still need wineOct 08 18:01
DiabloD3gnufreex: and noOct 08 18:02
DiabloD3go look at d3d10/11Oct 08 18:02
DiabloD3its almost an entirely different APIOct 08 18:02
gnufreexOpenGL is better. I looked.Oct 08 18:02
DiabloD3opengl3 in future mode, and d3d10/11 do shit how the card wants itOct 08 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh i could tell from the smaller version - it's brilliant. the circuit board roots too :)Oct 08 18:02
DiabloD3they both act and work the sameOct 08 18:02
DiabloD3microsoft basically admitted d3d was trash, and cloned opengl with a d3d naming styleOct 08 18:02
DiabloD3its sorta like what c# is to javaOct 08 18:03
gnufreexSo they will later do extend and extinguishOct 08 18:03
DiabloD3get what Im saying?Oct 08 18:03
DiabloD3well, they cant extend and extinguishOct 08 18:03
DiabloD3opengl keeps pushing features firstOct 08 18:03
DiabloD3microsoft has to somehow get AMD and Nvidia both to support d3d features before opengl has themOct 08 18:03
DiabloD3which is impossibleOct 08 18:04
DiabloD3microsoft refuses to let vendors be part of the design processOct 08 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Hehehe.... Thanks. @bkuhn had the original idea and we refined it together. I really like doing logos! :)Oct 08 18:04
DiabloD3which is extremely hilarious about d3d10Oct 08 18:04
DiabloD3they copied an API that has 100% vendor input AND is older than d3dOct 08 18:04
gnufreexStupid people think DirectX is better than OpenGL. And most people are stupid. So it doesn't matter.Oct 08 18:04
DiabloD3gnufreex: well now it no longer mattersOct 08 18:05
DiabloD3d3d IS opengl.Oct 08 18:05
DiabloD3well, d3d10/11 isOct 08 18:05
DiabloD3its the same fucking api, just with incompatible syntax.Oct 08 18:05
gnufreexI have tough time beleiving that.Oct 08 18:05
DiabloD3microsoft has basically killed d3d10/11 adoption because of itOct 08 18:05
DiabloD3all the hardcore opengl haters wont go to 10/11 from 9Oct 08 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh sounds like you and @vinzv should fight over who gets the !FaiFCast logo,then. :) competing logo proposals could be fun for me & @kazOct 08 18:06
DiabloD3(which 10/11 is vista7's big selling point for gamers)Oct 08 18:06
gnufreexSo then, this is the time when OpenGL should be pushed hard. No phuckin DirectXOct 08 18:06
DiabloD3gnufreex: not at all.Oct 08 18:06
DiabloD3the problem is, the state tracker doesnt do anything for meOct 08 18:06
DiabloD3portal 2 is a d3d9 game.Oct 08 18:06
gnufreexWhy to let MS kill DirectXOct 08 18:06
gnufreex?Oct 08 18:06
gnufreexIf Linux have DirectX, OpenGL is deadOct 08 18:06
gnufreexNobody will use itOct 08 18:07
DiabloD3not at allOct 08 18:07
DiabloD3the most important game of the year is d3d9.Oct 08 18:07
gnufreexEverybody thinks DirectX is best thing since slice bread.Oct 08 18:07
DiabloD3and no, NO ONE thinks directx is any goodOct 08 18:07
gnufreexEverybody are idiots.Oct 08 18:07
DiabloD3it costs sales.Oct 08 18:07
DiabloD3no android sales, no mac sales, no iphone sales.Oct 08 18:07
DiabloD3and theres only one game console that uses d3d, and thats xbox, and the xbox doesnt do 10/11, it uses a customized version of 9Oct 08 18:08
DiabloD3so if they're shipping pc AND xbox, its going to be a d3d9 pipeline (or multiple pipelines, and everyone hates that)Oct 08 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn OK. I have an idea for one. Will try to squeeze it into my schedule.... @vinzvOct 08 18:09
DiabloD3all the other game consoles either offer some opengl or opengl-like api, or the rendering pipeline is completely different (ps2/psp/ps3, etc)Oct 08 18:09
DiabloD3gnufreex: dx is rather deadOct 08 18:10
DiabloD3most games being sold are either opengl, or are neither gl or d3d.Oct 08 18:10
DiabloD3why sell a silly PC game, when you can sell 25 times more on the DS? or 15 times more on the wii?Oct 08 18:10
DiabloD3or if you need those next gen graphics, 10 to 15 times more on a PS3.Oct 08 18:11
DiabloD3xbox has very few native xbox titles, and they dont sell wellOct 08 18:11
DiabloD3gnufreex: so d3d10/11 on linux really doesnt mean shit at the end of the day.Oct 08 18:11
DiabloD3not only that, they've cut themselves out of the largest gaming segment: casual gamersOct 08 18:13
DiabloD3I already mentioned iphone and androidOct 08 18:13
DiabloD3but appletv and google tv may end up being casual gamer platforms as wellOct 08 18:13
DiabloD3and microsoft is totally fucked out of that.Oct 08 18:13
gnufreexApple has propriatary OpenGL extensions. Stipid Steve Jobs.Oct 08 18:14
DiabloD3nope.Oct 08 18:15
DiabloD3Apple is a vendor, they actually CAN name new extensionsOct 08 18:16
DiabloD3its legitOct 08 18:16
DiabloD3and several apple extensions have made it into core.Oct 08 18:16
DiabloD3apple maintains their own opengl stack for osx, and also a different one for opengl es on iOS hardwareOct 08 18:16
DiabloD3mesa also has extensionsOct 08 18:16
DiabloD3gnufreex: you cant just mysteriously have a phantom extensionOct 08 18:17
DiabloD3you have to register for a number, and you cant register without a completed specOct 08 18:17
DiabloD3gnufreex: I have no problem with Apple proposing new extensionsOct 08 18:19
DiabloD3even Microsoft had that power at one time, before they quit the opengl boardOct 08 18:20
gnufreexWhen I last heard about that, Apple was not feeding back into core.Oct 08 18:20
gnufreexYou say they are.Oct 08 18:21
gnufreexThen it's fine.Oct 08 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn, @vinzv maybe try something different (but related) than a tree for the !FaiFCast logo? something like a bird flying out of the nest?Oct 08 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] friday is easy in the grid. playing with #backtrackOct 08 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Amused that now 3 ppl are working together on logo for !FaiFCast: @mairin, @fabsh, & @vinzv. I love !FaiF communities; so many volunteers ;)Oct 08 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Law + Goth + Blog = http://siouxsielaw.com/Oct 08 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin I was thinking something vaguely similar. Will do a sketch later.... @bkuhn @vinzvOct 08 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn We kick ass! Who says there aren't any designers in F/OSS? ;) @mairin @vinzvOct 08 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Mennonites vs. "The Green Hell" http://ur1.ca/20d6vOct 08 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn @jkeating yeh people who say good design can't be done in the community are full of birdy-pooOct 08 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Ha! Birdy-poo. I like that! :DOct 08 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh @mairin, having been hit by birdy poo from sky more than what IMO is my statistical lifetime share (6), I find that imagery gross. :)Oct 08 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] zomg the new !fedora website is finally really coming together. been a very long time in planning :)Oct 08 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn That's why I wear hats. Can't believe you count that crap! (pun intended)Oct 08 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, getting hit on the head, body, or backpack by birdy poo is pretty #disturbing. It's hard to forget. Plus, I've got a good memory.Oct 08 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I can tell.... Woa.... OoOct 08 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn for what it's worth, the free behind the birdy isn't supposed to be poo, it's supposed to be... the wind :) or clouds maybe?Oct 08 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] serious !fedora folks, what gives? just do it http://www.dudalibre.com/gnulinuxcounter?lang=enOct 08 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, wind? You mean, bird is farting? I thought that was already SongBird's logo? (This conversation's now #disturbing ly scatological).Oct 08 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I think it's all due to your mind..... ;) @mairinOct 08 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, Hold on a sec! @mairin is one who mentioned birdy poo & drew a logo w/ some possible birdy poo in it. Who's mind's really at fault?Oct 08 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Multi-Touch For The X.Org Synaptics Driver: Takashi Iwai of Novell/SuSE has just published a series of 18 patches ... http://bit.ly/ahPzyuOct 08 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://lwn.net/Articles/409240/rssOct 08 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn "farts of freedom" o_OOct 08 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, see what I mean? @mairin's last two dents show unequivocally who is really driving this discussion in scatological directions! ;)Oct 08 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn hey now, if i really had my way it would be a pink panda bear :) a cute innocent, non-farting panda bear.Oct 08 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, Panda bears are a little overused in logos, aren't they? Also, I've also heard they are actually very nasty animals IRL.Oct 08 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn maybe you've just seen too many logos i've made lol. i've seen pandas in san diego and in berlin and they were all very nice!Oct 08 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ubuntu One Blog: !UbuntuOne Mobile, now with music streaming, is here! http://goo.gl/UIjeOct 08 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] From the Canyon Edge: Brand Refresh of manpages.ubuntu.com http://goo.gl/1KgZOct 08 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Electric Duncan: Multi-touch at UDS-N in Orlando, October 25th-29th http://goo.gl/kIkOOct 08 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft granted patent covering to-do lists – Tech Products & Geek News | Geek.com http://ping.fm/vJsPHOct 08 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Wine 1.2.1 Brings A Bunch Of Fixes http://ping.fm/LLUM7Oct 08 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Canonical Design Blog: This week in design – 8 October 2010 http://goo.gl/bGDAOct 08 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Pacific Basin trop storms at historic low, Atlantic still high: http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/ #tropstorms #climateOct 08 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Canonical ties !Ubuntu 10.10 tightly into Amazon's cloud | NetworkWorld.com Community http://ping.fm/jsK71Oct 08 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #Mozilla releases #Firefox 4 beta for #Maemo and #Android http://goo.gl/DHOoOct 08 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux Professional Institute Certification adopted by Public Schools in Spain - Linux PR http://ping.fm/HmsCJOct 08 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Upcoming !Linux Boom: 20 Reasons Why - LinuxPlanet http://ping.fm/SbXzvOct 08 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro's new proposal for improving the !ubuntu community governance http://goo.gl/9Y8OOct 08 19:21
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Tekk_just got done trying to remove a virus from my brother's computerOct 08 19:23
DiabloD3its called installing linuxOct 08 19:23
DiabloD3dohohohohoOct 08 19:23
Tekk_you *know* your doing it wrong when it's easier to reinstall than remove a virus >>Oct 08 19:23
DiabloD3mpOct 08 19:24
DiabloD3noOct 08 19:24
Tekk_DiabloD3: I have many times...Oct 08 19:24
DiabloD3thats how I deal with any windows boxOct 08 19:24
DiabloD3reinstall windows when a virus happensOct 08 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn OK. Here's my logo idea for @faif - it's intentionally simplistic to fit the vibe of the show. What do you think? http://ur1.ca/20dvmOct 08 19:24
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Tekk_DiabloD3: I meanto the makers of the os ;)Oct 08 19:24
DiabloD3anti-viruses dont remove viruses, and just damage the installOct 08 19:24
MinceRreinstalling winblows only eliminates the symptom :>Oct 08 19:24
DiabloD3well the funny part isOct 08 19:26
DiabloD3Ive never had a virusOct 08 19:27
DiabloD3so I must be doing something rightOct 08 19:27
Tekk_O.oOct 08 19:27
Tekk_this rescue CD comes with a mini windows XPOct 08 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Philly officers in 25th District probe were not sting targets, yet stole the money anyhow http://ur1.ca/20dwd #douchebagsOct 08 19:27
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gnufreexDiabloD3: You maybe hav a virus but you don't know.Oct 08 19:27
DiabloD3doubt it, I run clamav on itOct 08 19:28
gnufreexYou were taliing about Windows?Oct 08 19:28
DiabloD3clamav runs on windows, dudeOct 08 19:29
Tekk_clamwin ;)Oct 08 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] We come in peace http://ur1.ca/20dxiOct 08 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: CRAMER PELMONT – 2 day u-turn? and what of the others? http://tinyurl.com/37q7m3d !piratebay !tpb !acslaw !piracy !bittorrentOct 08 19:29
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DiabloD3yupOct 08 19:29
Tekk_XDOct 08 19:29
Tekk_mini windows XP bluescreens when you click shutdownOct 08 19:29
DiabloD3so?Oct 08 19:30
gnufreexDiabloD3 but it can't find all viruses. It doesn't detect C\Windows as a virus.Oct 08 19:30
DiabloD3on one of my machines, xfce's logout window segfaults XOct 08 19:30
DiabloD3gnufreex: hurrrOct 08 19:30
Tekk_DiabloD3: so I'm glad that it manages to pack full XP into mini formOct 08 19:30
*Tekk_ used to bluescreen pretty often on windowsOct 08 19:30
DiabloD3the really fucked part is, it doesnt segfault on the OTHER machineOct 08 19:31
DiabloD3mymindisfulloffuck.jpgOct 08 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Study: !Microsoft has 'fallen off the mainstream media’s radar' http://tinyurl.com/2vgjvge !windows !xp !vista !mvp !mvpbuzzOct 08 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I gave a presentation on !Ubuntu at the Free Software Conference at Szeged today. The room was full with people... !ubuntuhu #locoteamsOct 08 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] some at !MS feel Ballmer is worth it, he got a raise. Good news for FOSS then, last thing we want is a competent CEO http://bit.ly/caDmk5Oct 08 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WTF!? ♺ @sehof: #FIFA asked for exemption from criminal law & working conditions laws from the NL gov't during a possible World Cup. Huh?!Oct 08 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Nice words from coworkers these days make me not just smile, but laugh out loud, when working at home. Am I becoming bipolar?Oct 08 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Oo #fail #blamepopeyOct 08 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Getting the new !sixgun site in shape so I can roll it out.Oct 08 19:44
gnufreexLol, Balmer get more money. I guess he is saying at MSFT, to ruin them completely.Oct 08 19:45
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Tekk_in this book adam looks like jill from king of the hill(at least I think that was hank's wife's name)Oct 08 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @thistleweb some at !MS feel Ballmer is worth it, he got a raise. Good news for FOSS then, last thing we want is a competent CEO http ...Oct 08 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh like a digital tux powered hairballOct 08 19:47
gnufreex*staying, not saying.Oct 08 19:47
Tekk_oh, any of you guys know biology well?Oct 08 19:48
Tekk_There are apparently no reasonably priced biology curriculums that are secularOct 08 19:48
gnufreexRoy knows biology.Oct 08 19:48
Tekk_wikiversity exceptedOct 08 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft More Likely to Split Than to Merge With #3Adobe http://techrights.org/2010/10/08/adobe-rumors/Oct 08 19:51
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Tekk_which leads you to having to answer questions like. "How did God introduce the concepts that would lead to the science of taxonomy?"Oct 08 19:51
Tekk_this book also makes me keep a bible handy, I'm gonna have to track one down >>Oct 08 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn @kaz Well, now I'm happy. :-) Thank you so much for the great show it's been a huge shift in my legal understanding of ©,patents & ™!Oct 08 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Video tutorials on how to use #Tor and other #anti-censorship technologies: http://www.youtube.com/user/12pmtutorialsOct 08 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] in zurich for a couple weeks now. an amazing few days in oslo. have half a blog done about it. will publish on sunday.Oct 08 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] MS planning Patch Tuesday whopper: 16 bulletins, 49 vulnerabilities http://tinyurl.com/3y2j8gx - and those are the ones they know about!Oct 08 20:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #backtrack has a load of uber appsOct 08 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] “O segundo turno das eleições é dia 31/10, Halloween. Não perca a chance de queimar uma bruxa.”Oct 08 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith It is a very specific type of to do list "must file more ludicrous patents and extort money from innovative firms" :)Oct 08 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Indeed, probably they will patent the action of turning on a machine. Wow, every1 would pay them for it... Damn Patent systemOct 08 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Ha, what would give from this ? More debt and overlapping areas ? More layoffs...Oct 08 20:17
schestowitz[13:42] <MinceR> hyPervOct 08 20:19
schestowitz*LOL*Oct 08 20:19
_GoblinGary William Flake has resigned from Microsoft.....Oct 08 20:21
_Goblinhttps://twitter.com/#!/flakenstein/status/26770365186Oct 08 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I'm not sure if I prefer #6to4 or I should go back to #TunnelBroker :/Oct 08 20:22
Tekk_ah, the fun of removing spammers from your subscribers...Oct 08 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh @bkuhn @schendje love it!Oct 08 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Wow..... You are making me feel proud today. Thanks! :DOct 08 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blogging, empowerment, and the “adjacent possible” - http://bit.ly/dv7XfI it's all about scale #blogging #scaleOct 08 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Flotillas and fallout http://ur1.ca/20ejtOct 08 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cultural Software - http://bit.ly/b0rVoH looks interesting, if heavy (via @ToughLoveforX @dcarli) #booksOct 08 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Art Builds Upon Art: Nina Paley’s New Video - http://bit.ly/cC3wYd what a beautiful, clever thing #art #sharing #videoOct 08 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith exactlyOct 08 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O Bolsa Família, segundo Lula, em 2009 e em 2000 http://t.co/LlVZoma - Eu gostava + do Lula de 2000 :-/Oct 08 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Turtle Watching in Dominica http://www.dominica-weekly.com/turtle-watching-in-dominica/Oct 08 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Then... Buy Ballmer, Buy!!!Oct 08 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Man, I 4 one, Don't want Ballmer to leave M$. They need a man like him, to do what no other company could do: Bury M$Oct 08 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] visiting the Dominica "The Nature Island" http://ur1.ca/20ew0Oct 08 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Google News Starts Testing A Social Layer: Twitter http://smub.it/moremoney/google.newsOct 08 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Poll: Kids say their friends share too much online https://eff.org/r.2sUOct 08 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil Attacks ACTA [pt] - http://bit.ly/dCKILd [uk] - http://bit.ly/bhi8l0 (via @StopActaNow) #actaOct 08 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @bkuhn @kaz I designed you a logo ;) http://www.craplogo.me/post.php?name=FaiFOct 08 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Southern Observatory top 100 images - http://bit.ly/cJBQpY many of these are extraordinary (via Michael Hart) #space #pixOct 08 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin It's a play on the classical soviet imagery of revolution etc. I think.... @webmavenOct 08 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Karem Khaled Da'na http://ur1.ca/20f8qOct 08 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ha! Özil scores. Sweet irony! :DOct 08 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Very happy I'm not in Duisburg Marxloh right now...Oct 08 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] by @osamak http://is.gd/fRRkq بريدي موقع و(إن طلبت) فهو معمىOct 08 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Sprint's Galaxy Tab rumored at $399 with contract | Crave - CNET" from http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20019057-1.htmlOct 08 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @sorin7486 this must be the best commercial for linux I've ever seen !lo http://goo.gl/HEugOct 08 21:37
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Tekk_that's be a lot better if those of us with gnash could view it >>Oct 08 21:41
Tekk_that'd*Oct 08 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rcweir: Time to order new business cards. My division has been renamed to "IBM Collaboration Solutions", to better reflect our focus.Oct 08 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Very Diaspora. ;)Oct 08 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] 14mins away from my long weekend chillax. but things can change so you never know.Oct 08 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh i stole it from opensource.comOct 08 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh (whom i believe used it way before)Oct 08 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Grub Customizer Lets You Reorder, Add Or Remove GRUB 2 Menu Entries http://bit.ly/a4wO48Oct 08 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Da haben die Türken aber 'ne Packung bekommen... #superkloseOct 08 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @phoronix Wine 1.2.1 Brings A Bunch Of Fixes http://bit.ly/cwdVReOct 08 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Where can I get the F15 release banner? Do we have JavaScript for that? :)Oct 08 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Nice! :DOct 08 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh f15 or f14? you can steal f14 from here: http://stg.fedoraproject.org/counterOct 08 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Sorry. Meant F14.....Oct 08 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh im already revved up to start on the art for f15 :)Oct 08 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin I wish I had more time to donate ATM.... :/Oct 08 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Just stuck it up on the new sixgun.org which I will take online soon.... :)Oct 08 22:11
gnufreexDiabloD3: I can't beleive what frikin troll did http://freeishsoftware.org/index.php/component/content/article/35-op-ed/121-free-software-advocates-spread-lies-and-fud-about-appleOct 08 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh no worries! :) your interview for the website was a huge help!Oct 08 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out Nina Paley's super-awesome music video / animation, "All Creative Work Is Derivative" http://ur1.ca/20fm1Oct 08 22:16
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DiabloD3gnufreex: apparently you're Roy. Hi Roy.Oct 08 22:16
gnufreexDiabloD3: ?Oct 08 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Thanks! Still looking to help as much as I can though. :)Oct 08 22:17
DiabloD3ahh I misread itOct 08 22:17
DiabloD3I thought he was accusing you of being RoyOct 08 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @toros !Lubuntu 10.10 CD cover http://goo.gl/rIzF the cover: http://goo.gl/S0CJ >nicely doneOct 08 22:19
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DiabloD3gnufreex: this guy is a riot thoughOct 08 22:19
DiabloD3boycott-boycottnovell.comOct 08 22:19
DiabloD3orly?Oct 08 22:19
schestowitzHehOct 08 22:19
schestowitzHis life's goal is to haunt usOct 08 22:20
DiabloD3boo hooOct 08 22:20
DiabloD3dudeOct 08 22:20
DiabloD3schestowitz: you're awesomeOct 08 22:20
schestowitzPathetic if you ask me. He could go after BP insteadOct 08 22:20
schestowitzboycott-BP.omOct 08 22:20
DiabloD3I dont have a boycott-atpa.com hangeron :<Oct 08 22:20
schestowitz:-)Oct 08 22:20
gnufreexHe impies that first commenter on that post if his is meOct 08 22:20
gnufreexIt is not meOct 08 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Biting my tongueOct 08 22:21
gnufreexI told him I won't respond and blocked him on identi.caOct 08 22:21
schestowitzHe is used to itOct 08 22:21
DiabloD3I mean, fuck, Ive been on the front page of slashdot thrice, on the front page of digg, on delicious's hotlist, linked to by the yahoo tech blog...Oct 08 22:21
gnufreexNow he tries to imply it was me, so I come and deny it.Oct 08 22:21
schestowitzThat's why his boss told him, sort of... metaphoricallyOct 08 22:21
DiabloD3and linked to by tens of thousands of other sitesOct 08 22:21
DiabloD3andOct 08 22:21
DiabloD3I dont have someone boycotting meOct 08 22:21
DiabloD3Im obviously doing something wrong hereOct 08 22:21
schestowitzHeheOct 08 22:22
schestowitzThanks, manOct 08 22:22
DiabloD3do I have to write to microsoft and tell them Im popular or something?Oct 08 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i love working in !fedora.Oct 08 22:22
schestowitzGroklaw had such a site against it tooOct 08 22:22
schestowitzip-warsOct 08 22:22
schestowitzShe just wouldn't mention itOct 08 22:23
DiabloD3ip warsOct 08 22:23
DiabloD3I like the sound of thatOct 08 22:23
DiabloD3we can dress rms up like obi-wanOct 08 22:24
gnufreexNow I don't post comment on his blog, he will claim that "really" post is mine. If I come and post, I am wasting time on troll.Oct 08 22:24
DiabloD3and linus can be han soloOct 08 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] "If you don't disagree with the way the boss runs things, you must be the boss." --meOct 08 22:24
DiabloD3ooh! ooh! miguel can be darth vader!Oct 08 22:24
DiabloD3hsssh-puh. hsssh-puh.Oct 08 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] HTML5: The jewel in the Open Web Platform http://ow.ly/19mdPnOct 08 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Peace activist unwelcome in Israel http://ur1.ca/20fruOct 08 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The first wave will attack the perception that !Linux is free." --Brian Valentine, Microsoft (now at Amazon) !qOct 08 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux Professional Institute Certification adopted by Public Schools in Spain http://www.linuxpr.com/releases/12442.html #lpi #educationOct 08 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh tree logo /much/ betterOct 08 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes LINK: Study: !Microsoft has 'fallen off the mainstream media’s radar' http://tinyurl.com/2vgjvge !windows !xp !vista >true.Oct 08 22:46
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schestowitz[19:45] <gnufreex> Lol, Balmer get more money. I guess he is staying at MSFT, to ruin them completely.Oct 08 22:48
schestowitzI don't quite agreeOct 08 22:48
schestowitzWithout him, it's equally bad for themOct 08 22:48
schestowitzHe knows the business and he's a brute.... needed to be a shark against LinuxOct 08 22:48
schestowitz[19:51] <Tekk_> which leads you to having to answer questions like. "How did God introduce the concepts that would lead to the science of taxonomy?"Oct 08 22:50
schestowitzTHe US, eh?Oct 08 22:50
schestowitzLike Laskin et al. and all those other crooks from "intelligent designs"Oct 08 22:50
schestowitzRebranding creationism to push it as a scienceOct 08 22:51
gnufreexschestowitz: Balmer is predictable. Others might not be.Oct 08 22:51
schestowitzBunch of PhD who decided to make a fortune praying on the zeal of the ignorantOct 08 22:51
gnufreexschestowitz: Balmer is predictable. we know his MO.Oct 08 22:51
schestowitzPreaching to them that "yes, there was a creator"Oct 08 22:51
schestowitzAnd then publishing books on some church budgets or whateverOct 08 22:51
schestowitzTexas already makes these corruptible curricula and booksOct 08 22:52
schestowitzPeople on their education board think the world is ~6000 years oldOct 08 22:52
schestowitzAnd the textbooks are printed in such a way that they will inevitable reach other states tooOct 08 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] openSUSE more cutting-edge than Fedora - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=943Oct 08 22:52
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00tOct 08 22:53
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schestowitzThis guy confronted the Discovery Institute a lotOct 08 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo calls 'the Internet', which was also a nominee, 'God's gift to China'. https://eff.org/r.4sWOct 08 22:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz Which tree logo is better than what? :)Oct 08 22:57
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schestowitzhttp://flakenstein.net/Oct 08 22:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @flakenstein I have resigned from Microsoft. > congratulation. Now you can become a cooperative member of societyOct 08 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Chinese censors try squashing 'Liu Xiaobo' & 'Nobel Peace Prize' off the Internet https://eff.org/r.4sV, users find ways around it.Oct 08 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody Brazil Attacks ACTA [pt] - http://bit.ly/dCKILd [uk] - http://bit.ly/bhi8l0 (via @StopActaNow) #actaOct 08 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @glynmoody Is ACTA already kicking ??? Or still in drafts ???Oct 08 23:12
schestowitz[21:21] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] @bkuhn @kaz I designed you a logo ;) http://www.craplogo.me/post.php?name=FaiFOct 08 23:12
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schestowitzHeh. http://www.craplogo.me/post.php?name=Techrights&Submit.x=267&Submit.y=30&Submit=SubmitOct 08 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Jaeger: systemd - and #osc2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/409304/rssOct 08 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh better than that scribbly mockupOct 08 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Phew, after eighteen hours traveling, I am back home. Glad to be back in NorCal. :-)Oct 08 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] An Artist who has the BALLS to speak against RIAA/MPAA http://bit.ly/dAa97xOct 08 23:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Um artista com culhões pra falar contra RIAA/MPAA http://bit.ly/dAa97xOct 08 23:21
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schestowitzHello, benw24Oct 08 23:21
benw24helloOct 08 23:21
benw24fucking mono appologists have been downvoting me to hell on redditOct 08 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz Heh. Well.... With all due respect, but judging by your website designs, maybe you aren't the one to judge?Oct 08 23:22
schestowitzyes, reddit has Novell employees thereOct 08 23:23
schestowitzAnd the Mono GuardOct 08 23:23
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/05/27/reddit-novell-employees/Oct 08 23:24
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benw24a lot of upvotes on the mono 2.8 release on reddit and ycombinatorOct 08 23:24
schestowitzIf you look for a Mono hostile site, stay out of RedditOct 08 23:24
schestowitzI had several articles in the front page of Digg about Mono dangersOct 08 23:24
schestowitzLinux Today dislikes Mono, tooOct 08 23:24
oiaohmI see mono like early wine.Oct 08 23:24
benw24I got a couple friends to create reddit accounts to help me downvote the mono appologists on redditOct 08 23:25
oiaohmEarly winehq.org(wine)  had the idea of implementing win16 and win32 api to spec perfectly.Oct 08 23:25
benw24but they overwhelmed usOct 08 23:25
oiaohmSo its implementation would be great.Oct 08 23:25
oiaohmResult is many years latter that idea had to be dropped because of the numbers of applications that would not work.Oct 08 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "Gift, Nothing to lose, Stuck inside of Memphis with the mobile home, Sing!"Oct 08 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh the one from 8 years ago?Oct 08 23:26
oiaohmAnd wine is still fighting against the bugs MS keeps on introducing to there APIOct 08 23:26
benw24is there any way to prove that the mono trolls on reddit are all (or mostly) from novell?Oct 08 23:27
oiaohmThis is my problem I have seen too much history.Oct 08 23:27
benw24and/or puppet accounts?Oct 08 23:27
oiaohmNot all are.Oct 08 23:27
benw24I suspect they must be because no one likes monoOct 08 23:27
oiaohmSome are truly windows .net developers.Oct 08 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz schestowitz.com looks like it's from 18 years ago... ;)Oct 08 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Exciting few days ahead: Maverick released tomorrow at www.ubuntu.com and 'Nightmares By Design' released on Mon at www.severedfifth.com :-)Oct 08 23:27
oiaohmYes those beasts do exist.  benw24Oct 08 23:27
benw24oiaohm: their opinions shouldn't count thenOct 08 23:27
benw24because they have a vested interestOct 08 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Looks like you have your hands full... :)Oct 08 23:29
benw24I can't wait until jono gets destroyed by patentsOct 08 23:29
benw24s/jono/mono/Oct 08 23:30
benw24typoOct 08 23:30
jonobenw24, lolOct 08 23:30
jonoI did wonderOct 08 23:30
jono:-)Oct 08 23:30
benw24on a new keyboardOct 08 23:30
oiaohmScarry part is mono is listed on the OIN list.Oct 08 23:30
benw24which has no bump on the home keys like I'm used toOct 08 23:31
oiaohmSo it could be interesting if mono gets attacked by MS.Oct 08 23:31
benw24oiaohm: that's just confirms that mono is patent encumberedOct 08 23:32
benw24otherwise it wouldn't need to be on OIN's list ;)Oct 08 23:32
schestowitz[23:27] <benw24> is there any way to prove that the mono trolls on reddit are all (or mostly) from novell?Oct 08 23:32
schestowitzI don't like RedditOct 08 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani gets a break http://ur1.ca/20g8qOct 08 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Whoops, jet lag makes Bacon woozy, Ubuntu release on Sunday not tomorrow!Oct 08 23:32
schestowitzI don't have an announce there, eitherOct 08 23:32
schestowitzThat site is filled with some people who only ever attack me because they are he Mono boostersOct 08 23:33
schestowitzAnd they stalk anything from techrights in thereOct 08 23:33
schestowitzAnd then they incite the crowd against meOct 08 23:33
oiaohmReally tech point of view mono still has a long way to go.Oct 08 23:33
schestowitzI'd say, let the site perish..Oct 08 23:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/28/reddit-sponsored-by-microsoft/Oct 08 23:33
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/17/internet-explorer-9-bad-news/Oct 08 23:33
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benw24schestowitz: only assholes try to incite people against othersOct 08 23:34
benw24that shows mono people's true characterOct 08 23:34
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/28/mono-proponents-smear-opposition/Oct 08 23:34
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oiaohmReally there are issues with mono.Oct 08 23:35
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/12/04/mooning-the-monkey-censorshipmooning-the-monkey-censorship/Oct 08 23:35
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schestowitzMany people attest to the same experieneOct 08 23:35
oiaohmIf the mono guys would just sit down and truly answer them problems would go away.Oct 08 23:35
schestowitzThey even arrange this in Novell blogsOct 08 23:35
schestowitzLike they say, people leave nasty comments, help me out guys, let's bury themOct 08 23:35
oiaohmMono has not done the correct paper work on how and what is partent protected.Oct 08 23:35
schestowitzI caught this in a Novell employee's blogOct 08 23:35
oiaohmBasically the same mistake google made with java and android.Oct 08 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Tomorrow is Sunday. At least over here.... ;)Oct 08 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rebooting the main !sixgun server for kernel updates... !loOct 08 23:36
oiaohmThe she be right implementation method.Oct 08 23:36
oiaohmYes there is a chance after working threw and documenting where and how the coverage comes from that a large section of mono could be legal above board and unable to be argued about.Oct 08 23:37
oiaohmBut without that process done its not usable.Oct 08 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @bkuhn Thorsten aka thorwil has done some logos for me in the past - including the !freemusic logo. http://thorwil.wordpress.com/Oct 08 23:37
oiaohmIe not anti-mono.    Anti poor practice.Oct 08 23:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh Linux Outlaws #is_down ... for updates, not popular demand?Oct 08 23:39
benw24I'm glad mono doesn't do thatOct 08 23:39
benw24much easier to convince people not to use itOct 08 23:39
benw24because of patent concernsOct 08 23:40
benw24I don't want .exe's or .dll's on my linuxOct 08 23:40
benw24I don't care if it was patent freeOct 08 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Server is back. !sixgun !loOct 08 23:41
cubezzzwell any closed source is badOct 08 23:41
benw24yeaOct 08 23:41
benw24and that's why mono needs to dieOct 08 23:41
cubezzzif I have the source code, I'm much happierOct 08 23:41
cubezzzmy next main project is core bootOct 08 23:42
cubezzzI don't even bother looking at monoOct 08 23:42
oiaohmbenw24: lot of .net coders are vb coders reborn.Oct 08 23:42
oiaohmWe have tried everything to kill vb codersOct 08 23:42
oiaohmBut they are still here.Oct 08 23:42
benw24oiaohm: yea, drag&drop moronsOct 08 23:42
benw24should not be allowed near a computerOct 08 23:43
cubezzzanyone who can remember pre-windows should know better thoughOct 08 23:43
cubezzzgenerally speakingOct 08 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir Of course, XPS is a dud. No one uses it. > nobody uses OOXML, either. No program implements ECMA OOXMLOct 08 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Why Microsoft Buying Adobe Threatens Desktop Linux http://tinyurl.com/32mrdht !microsoft !windows !adobeOct 08 23:44
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cubezzzthere was not this win-group-think in the pastOct 08 23:44
benw24mono ppl claim they are trying to brind .net developers to linuxOct 08 23:45
benw24to "harvest more talent"Oct 08 23:45
oiaohmPeople forget Microsoft put Adobe where it is today with flashOct 08 23:45
benw24I don't want their kind on my platformOct 08 23:45
oiaohmRemember the embed flash in windows 95Oct 08 23:45
oiaohmI don't see .net developers worth havesting.Oct 08 23:45
benw24oiaohm: exactlyOct 08 23:46
benw24they are not very inteligentOct 08 23:46
oiaohmMost don't have low level code developmentOct 08 23:46
benw24or good at programming at allOct 08 23:46
oiaohmThat Linux still needs lots of.Oct 08 23:46
oiaohmNo matter how good you make the front end if the back end still sucks it still sucks.Oct 08 23:46
benw24what in linux backend sucks?Oct 08 23:47
benw24seems perfect to meOct 08 23:47
cubezzzwell I still see some reverse engineering necessaryOct 08 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to @diablod3 for reminding us at !techrights that to have someone run a *dedicated* domain+site against us is a sign of success.Oct 08 23:47
cubezzzI sure don't want to see Microsoft buying AdobeOct 08 23:49
MinceRthe .net "programmers" are the visual basic "programmers" of the todayOct 08 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Examples of Apple helping Microsoft http://ur1.ca/20gde because !apple is far from a friend of software freedomOct 08 23:49
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MinceRi don't care about m$ buying adobe, it's just shit coalescingOct 08 23:49
cubezzzit might polarize the OS spaceOct 08 23:50
benw24mincer: yep, best to ban all "VB programmers" from LinuxOct 08 23:51
benw24we DO NOT WANTOct 08 23:52
cubezzzdo you think Microsoft-Adobe would make Linux flash?Oct 08 23:52
benw24cubezzz: doesn't matter, there is alays GnashOct 08 23:52
benw24for those that careOct 08 23:52
cubezzzI care, because of the webOct 08 23:53
benw24only useful for youtubeOct 08 23:53
cubezzzI don't want to be locked out of stuffOct 08 23:53
benw24use Gnash?Oct 08 23:53
MinceRi'm not saying "ban them", i just don't care about themOct 08 23:53
MinceRthere's also swfdecOct 08 23:53
schestowitzHere come old trolls... http://identi.ca/notice/54997957 "@schestowitz careful, the some might suggest that since your site is dedicated to attacking Novell/Mono, that means they are a success too."Oct 08 23:54
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schestowitzOut of the woodworkOct 08 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh it does ;-) Call it vintage !!Oct 08 23:54
oiaohmbenw24: particular areas still needs work.  audio for one.Oct 08 23:55
cubezzzI do have one box with gnash actuallyOct 08 23:55
oiaohmThe more video card driver work is also required.Oct 08 23:56
oiaohmYes more people to help on those would be a great boost to Linux.Oct 08 23:56
benw24they are already pretty goodOct 08 23:56
oiaohmremember I do support with wine.  benw24Oct 08 23:57
oiaohmA program is there is a audio or video problem it finds it.Oct 08 23:57
benw24I have to go for dinnerOct 08 23:57
benw24laterOct 08 23:57
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oiaohmAlso remember kde developers are also screeming about the quality of open source 3d drivers as well.Oct 08 23:58
oiaohmLot more back and work required.  For backend work we need more C coders.Oct 08 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] After a solid 12 hours at the keyboard I feel totally justified drinking this Sierra Nevada Torpedo. Maybe two.Oct 08 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Our unfriendly resident trolls have reminded that it should be stressed that !techrights antagonises large companies, techrights is a groupOct 08 23:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just released a new version of !ponyexpress >> https://launchpad.net/ponyexpress/appaloosa/0.4Oct 08 23:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 0.4 : Series appaloosa : Pony Express .::. Size~: 14.96 KBOct 08 23:59

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