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Cuancubevector: linux is simple and easy to build on to or off ofOct 19 00:00
Cuanhints why many linux OSs could beat M$Oct 19 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Now I remember why I hate people (sarcasm alert [just assume all I say is sarcasm])Oct 19 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz They're feeling the pressure; Patti Smith said "keep poking until they bleed"Oct 19 00:04
cubevectorI was convinced Linux beat Windows a long time agoOct 19 00:04
cubevectorif Be had managed to get OEMs to get serious about BeOS...Oct 19 00:05
cubevectorwe wouldn't have this rather foolish mono-culture we ended up with... just speaking in general hereOct 19 00:05
Cuancubevector: the only place linux has ever laged is with gameingOct 19 00:05
cubevectorwell we did have Loki and LGPOct 19 00:06
Cuanwe still have game ports but it is reather slow and ofton messOct 19 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Feel like shit today. Took a hot shower, but people still complain that I "stink". Why the fuck can't people handle even the slightest odor?Oct 19 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ...because they're retarded fucks who became so god damned hopelessly dependant on pointless shit like makeup, hair products, (..)Oct 19 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] So much for Linux = 1% market share -Looking at Freenode.net ,theres 5x more users in the !Ubuntu channel than in !windows !linux !microsoftOct 19 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @pgralla: Ray Ozzie leaves Microsoft --- one more visionary walks out the door http://bit.ly/99fBabOct 19 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) antipersperant, perfume, drugs, and other shit, all while they continue living their pathetic never-good-enough lives buying (..)Oct 19 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ray Ozzie leaves Microsoft --- one more visionary walks out the door - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 63.75 KBOct 19 00:14
cubevectorRay Ozzie is a visionary?Oct 19 00:15
_GoblinAccording to pgralla he is.....I suppose by Microsoft standards he is.Oct 19 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I love how Microsoft attacks !Java popularity, real classy http://ur1.ca/23vy9Oct 19 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft sees "unprecedented wave" of Java malware exploits .::. Size~: 29.53 KBOct 19 00:16
_GoblinMind you the cleaner would seem visionary compared to the majority of what comes from Redmond.Oct 19 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) whatever corporations tell them to buy. Meanwhile I'm sitting here, isolated, wondering what the fuck is wrong with these retards.Oct 19 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] /endrant? or should I keep going?Oct 19 00:17
cubevector_Goblin, I'm pretty happy with my home setup nowOct 19 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @linuxaria introduction to zsh - Alternative shell for !Linux, http://www.linuxaria.com/howto/introduzione-a-zsh?lang=enOct 19 00:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linuxaria introduction to zsh : Linuxaria .::. Size~: 39.6 KBOct 19 00:19
cubevectorgot a couple of experimental boxes here I can just put whatever FOSS OS I felt like onOct 19 00:19
cubevectorI'm off the Microsoft Grid :)Oct 19 00:19
_Goblincubevector: did you see my interview with Romeo Knight?  I was so chuffed with that....a Amiga legend from 20 years ago!Oct 19 00:20
cubevector_Goblin, no, I must have missed itOct 19 00:20
_Goblincubevector: got linked in the Amiga User Internation siteOct 19 00:21
_Goblin*internationalOct 19 00:21
_Goblinnot as good as Roy's Linux Format....but hey I get extra credit for it being Amiga!Oct 19 00:21
cubevectorpeople still talk about AmigaOct 19 00:21
_Goblinwe do!Oct 19 00:21
cubevectorshould check amigakit.com again just in caseOct 19 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost fair enoughOct 19 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] This is whats wrong with education in my country http://ur1.ca/23w00 #wtfOct 19 00:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Curiosity is banned at Westfield High .::. Size~: 88.26 KBOct 19 00:22
cubevector_Goblin, amigakit looks like they have stock againOct 19 00:23
cubevectoron the NOS 1200'sOct 19 00:23
cubevectortempting :)Oct 19 00:24
_Goblinthey always are.Oct 19 00:24
_GoblinI'm happy with my Amiga safely boxed away and E-UAE on Sabayon.Oct 19 00:24
cubevectoroh? So you don't use the real thing?Oct 19 00:25
_Goblinv0.8.29Oct 19 00:25
_Goblinnope...not any more...Oct 19 00:25
_Goblinhave a few vitual HD's....do a little assembly.....play a few adf's.....Oct 19 00:25
_Goblindon't get much time for a trip down memory lane.....Oct 19 00:26
_Goblinalso my young lad has worked out what the mouse is for (and keyboard) unfortunately not quite got that chocolatey fingers and peripherals don't really go well together.Oct 19 00:26
_Goblinso I'll keep my Amiga safe and locked away.Oct 19 00:27
cubevectorah understandableOct 19 00:27
_Goblinmind you.....(he's 2 yrs and 2 months) and if I say to him "Whats you favourite Operating System?"....he replies "Linux".....well actually he says "inux" but thats still a good sign for the future.Oct 19 00:28
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cubevectorhehOct 19 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] These retards turn out to be the same ones who can't think for themselves, read perezhilton DAILY, and bitch like crazy over stupid shit.Oct 19 00:29
cubevectorwow, speededfrost really needs a timeoutOct 19 00:29
_Goblinyeah....He seems to be doing his fair share of bitching.Oct 19 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Seems like they just take EVERY god damn thing SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY. To be honest I don't give the slightest fuck about hygiene. Why? (..)Oct 19 00:31
_GoblinI loved this comment earlier....I re-tweeted it....:Oct 19 00:31
_Goblin"At first I thought "sloppy backports" was geek porn"Oct 19 00:31
Ender2070lolOct 19 00:31
_GoblinFab RT'd it first.....its a classicOct 19 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER. I smell like a human fucking being, deal with it. And If you don't like it, go smother yourself in chemicalsOct 19 00:32
cubevectorspeeddefrost reminds me of DaemonFC actuallyOct 19 00:33
Ender2070he does nowOct 19 00:34
Ender2070when you think of itOct 19 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) I'm sure as hell not going down that same path. If you want to prevent yourself from sweating with antipersperant, well then don't (..)Oct 19 00:36
_Goblinspeeddefrost a word of advice...if you are wanting people to pay attention to what you are saying, its probably best to avoid the whole subject of your choices in personal hygiene...appart from anything else, it has little to do with Linux/FOSSOct 19 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates’ Successor Quits Microsoft! http://ur1.ca/23w36 #Microsoft is like a feather in the wind now, no strategistOct 19 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) blame me when you get cancer because of it.Oct 19 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Gates Successor Quits Microsoft! | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.51 KBOct 19 00:37
_GoblinNote to self - If I ever give speeddefrost a lift in my car, make sure I put the roof down...Oct 19 00:37
cubevector_Goblin, I don't think he's in IRCOct 19 00:38
_Goblinno I know....I am being flippantOct 19 00:38
cubevectorunless he's under a different nick :)Oct 19 00:38
_Goblinand a little sarcasticOct 19 00:38
cubevectorthank goodness I am logging all thisOct 19 00:39
cubevector:-POct 19 00:39
schestowitzcubevector: heyOct 19 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft seems to have resorted to Linux FUD pieces, OO.o video propaganda, and lawsuits against !Linux (Motorola). SCO 2.0?Oct 19 00:39
_GoblinI just can't get my head around someone trying to start an argument over their own poor personal hygiene.....maybe Ive missed something.Oct 19 00:39
schestowitzyour logger was offline for a while todayOct 19 00:39
cubevectorspeeddefrost's utterances must be preserved :)Oct 19 00:39
cubevectoroh?Oct 19 00:39
_GoblinSort of gives a little credibility to the comment "Linux unwashed"Oct 19 00:39
schestowitzcubevector: I think...Oct 19 00:40
schestowitzthe zzz oneOct 19 00:40
cubevectorhmmm, I'm not even in techrights as cubezzz... yeahOct 19 00:40
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schestowitzTomorrow I'll post what's left of the IRC stuff I missedOct 19 00:40
schestowitzMicrosoft is dyingOct 19 00:40
cubevectorok, well you probably have everythingOct 19 00:40
schestowitzcubevector: yeahOct 19 00:40
schestowitzI put it online with a new router before cubezzz fell offlineOct 19 00:41
schestowitzSo I can merge tomorrowOct 19 00:41
cubevectorI killed X yesterday for some reasonOct 19 00:41
_GoblinCracking comment of the day (and its not even Microsoft related or from a shill)..........Oct 19 00:41
_GoblinQuote "If I have a thing that imports a thing and then that thing imports the thing that imports it, but the code paths don't collide at all (i.e. we import x for function y in the z and we import z for function u in x), does that sound dangerous?"Oct 19 00:41
schestowitzNotice how Microsoft changes the subjectOct 19 00:41
schestowitzTheir chief quitsOct 19 00:41
schestowitzBut people talk about Linux being "dead"Oct 19 00:41
schestowitzNice diversion thereOct 19 00:41
schestowitzNot just from IDGOct 19 00:41
schestowitzhttp://ur1.ca/23ugcOct 19 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why IDG and Slashdot Let Microsoft Attack Dogs Call Linux “Dead” (Updated) | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.76 KBOct 19 00:42
schestowitzSee the "Update:"Oct 19 00:42
cubevectorschestowitz, I am logging as cubevector as wellOct 19 00:42
cubevectorso I didn't miss anything I don't thinkOct 19 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] By the way: Sweat doesn't "stink". That "fact" is nothing more than bullshit propaganda spread by a bunch of corps who simply want you (..)Oct 19 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) to buy their neverending supply of SHIT.Oct 19 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] /endrant. Okay, I'm done now. Carry on, Identicats.Oct 19 00:42
_Goblinschestowitz: You kept the Linux Format thing quiet.....Oct 19 00:43
cubevectorschestowitz, exactly who is saying Linux is dead?Oct 19 00:43
cubevectorbesides Microsofties?Oct 19 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'd like to see the Mitchell and Webb and Armstrong and Miller showOct 19 00:44
_Goblinits more the "Linux dream" allegedly : http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/48436Oct 19 00:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Desktop Linux: The Dream Is Dead | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 30.3 KBOct 19 00:44
_Goblinthe article stinks of a cheap hit getter.Oct 19 00:45
_Goblinwhat I think could be said was "The relevance of any desktop platform is dead"Oct 19 00:45
_Goblinsince its all cross platform and cloud these days.....Oct 19 00:46
cubevectorit's just tuxmachines passing on a story from PCworld thoughOct 19 00:46
_Goblinhe could have probably got away with that one.Oct 19 00:46
_Goblincubevector: yeah...I was being lazy, just grabbed the link from my RSS feed.Oct 19 00:46
cubevectorof course I'm sure PCWorld just shills all day for MicrosoftOct 19 00:47
_Goblinits been tweeted loads today and a counter has already been put on TuxmachinesOct 19 00:47
_GoblinI didn't give it any time on twitter/identi.ca because it was all just too obvious and there was nothing to challenge that didn't already stand out to the reader alreadyOct 19 00:47
cubevector_Goblin, I had fun porting some of my Linux stuff to OpenBSDOct 19 00:48
cubevectorplus I stopped buying magazinesOct 19 00:48
_Goblincubevector: talking of which, Ive met a BSD advocate who lives just around the corner from me....I met him on Twitter.Oct 19 00:48
_Goblincubevector: I hope you will get Linux Format - Roy Schestowitz edition.Oct 19 00:48
cubevector_Goblin, one interesting thing about OpenBSD...Oct 19 00:48
cubevectoroh I will if I see it :)Oct 19 00:49
cubevectorOpenBSD seems to support older stuff better than Linux doesOct 19 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] listening to The Specials, Working For The Rat Race.Oct 19 00:49
cubevectorfor someone like myself who runs older hardware, it's nice to seeOct 19 00:49
_GoblinI keep meaning to go over to BSD for a while....if I hadn't settled so quickly on Sabayon I probably would have....I have quite a few machines which would benefit from BSDOct 19 00:50
cubevector_Goblin, just put it on an old boxOct 19 00:50
cubevectorit's perfect for thatOct 19 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz well, at least they're not hiding behind some third party this time.Oct 19 00:51
schestowitz_Goblin: :-)Oct 19 00:51
_Goblinschestowitz: next time I see you, you can sign my copy!!! ;)Oct 19 00:51
cubevectorI'm literally surrounded by FOSS OS boxes hereOct 19 00:51
schestowitz:-pOct 19 00:52
cubevectorschestowitz is so famous, producers come to him! ;-)Oct 19 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Is it just me, or are all of the actual INTELLIGENT people on identi.ca? All the people I see IRL are dumb shits who simply can't think.Oct 19 00:52
Ender2070did you guys see linsux format last yearOct 19 00:52
Ender2070i found it on googleOct 19 00:52
Ender2070really stupidOct 19 00:52
_GoblinI had forgotten about Linsux....is that still going?Oct 19 00:53
cubevectorwell some day the Sun will burn out and speeddefrost will stop rantingOct 19 00:53
Ender2070http://www.linsux.org/uploads/linsuxformat-issue1.pdfOct 19 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KBOct 19 00:53
schestowitzEnder2070: they got formattedOct 19 00:54
_Goblincubevector: who is that guy anyway>Oct 19 00:54
cubevectorI don't even knowOct 19 00:54
schestowitzEnder2070: why feed them?Oct 19 00:54
schestowitzPls don't clickOct 19 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I think I'm ranting again. I think I should use this rage to code my @reality-impersonating identibot.Oct 19 00:54
_Goblinah......Oct 19 00:54
_GoblinQuote "Weed-crazed zombie hippy that can't be trusted with a computer."Oct 19 00:54
_GoblinZombie? Must be a Windows user. ;)Oct 19 00:55
Ender2070feed them? lol they already ateOct 19 00:55
Ender2070look at how much work they put into thatOct 19 00:55
_GoblinIm sorry I missed that at the time.....Oct 19 00:55
Ender2070it actually has a cute comment from sir sane where he says some girl has sand in her vaginaOct 19 00:56
_Goblinthat might be singer songwriter Indiana Gregg they are talking about......Oct 19 00:56
_Goblinif it is, I interviewed her for Openbytes and speak with her.Oct 19 00:57
_Goblinthat was my first "celeb" Ive spoken to privately.Oct 19 00:57
Ender2070"Janet, Please remove the sand from your vagina. You’re offended by our site? Good. If you can’t bear to hear the opinions and thoughts of our forum members, then DON’T FUCKING VISIT OUR FORUMS. It’s that simple. I’m sorry if we raped your “virgin Christian ears” when you read this to yourself before your weekly “meeting” with an overly horny Catholic priest. Learn to accept naturalOct 19 00:58
Ender2070fucking language, or please keel over and die."Oct 19 00:58
_Goblinah...Oct 19 00:58
_Goblinno, not JanetOct 19 00:58
Ender2070real professionalOct 19 00:58
Ender2070lolOct 19 00:58
Ender2070these guys are clownsOct 19 00:58
_Goblinit was a similar comment that got me talking with Ms Gregg.  Since I was the target of Linsux, I assumed that they had picked on that issue again.Oct 19 00:58
_GoblinSomeone on Torrentfreak (I think) had said the same thing to her as what you quoted....Oct 19 00:59
_Goblinand I stepped in to the rescue.....not though because she is a very attractive Canadian singer you understand though......Oct 19 01:00
Ender2070its from southparkOct 19 01:02
_Goblinah...don't really watch that...Oct 19 01:02
_Goblinlike the Buckrogers skit they did thoughOct 19 01:02
_Goblinand I liked "Cannibal the Musical" by the two who made SouthparkOct 19 01:03
_Goblinjust read that Linsxxx format..... the letters are so obviously all made up by the writers.Oct 19 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] ;-)Oct 19 01:11
Ender2070yeah probablyOct 19 01:11
Ender2070i only found it doing a google search of "roy schestowitz linux format"Oct 19 01:11
Ender2070it was in the first page of resultsOct 19 01:11
Ender2070earlier today anywayOct 19 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rysiek they were never hiding too well, eitherOct 19 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Microsoft Office is an addictive drug. http://stop.zona-m.net/node/198. "Just Say No" :-).Oct 19 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost get it to impersonate itselfOct 19 01:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft video proves that Microsoft Office is like cocaine and has dealers inside schools | Stop! .::. Size~: 15.38 KBOct 19 01:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] @bruce89 I will once I have enough "entropy". lol.Oct 19 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Video interview with Rusty Russell (IBM OZlabs kernel guru). http://tiny.cc/5a3oi. Enjoy !Oct 19 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] A comedy film about Burke and Hare, one of the most prolific mass-murders this country has seen. HmmOct 19 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tiny URL - create a shorter link .::. Size~: 9.53 KBOct 19 01:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56166138#notice-56653735 "could not agree more. :D"Oct 19 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.21 KBOct 19 01:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'm amazed that so many people think that random chatbots are funny, they really are sometimesOct 19 01:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56166070#notice-56653870 "No way dude, is it true. This is really news. :)"Oct 19 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.09 KBOct 19 01:22
schestowitzYes, it's a good day.Oct 19 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] And just when you fancy an early morning audio download P Bay is down :( #notlisteningtoOct 19 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito No way dude, is it true. This is really news. :)Oct 19 01:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “If they’re going to pirate somebody, we want it to be us rather than somebody else” Jeff Raikes, Gates Foundry head. He loves money.Oct 19 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito Yes, it's a good day.Oct 19 01:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Hummm, you have a new friend/admirer: Richard Skillman. Who would be this troll ??? Any guess ??? http://bit.ly/d7Y5UJOct 19 01:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comment: Linux's chance has gone - Desktop dream deader than a Norwegian Blue   | TechEye .::. Size~: 44.3 KBOct 19 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://www.willowgarage.com/pages/pr2/overview - This is really something that I'm going to suggest @HSGhent to buy #0x20Oct 19 01:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Overview | Willow Garage .::. Size~: 15.39 KBOct 19 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right thats me done for the night....Good night all.Oct 19 01:36
schestowitzhttp://www.techeye.net/software/linuxs-chance-has-gone "Richard Skillman" trolls us in the commentsOct 19 01:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comment: Linux's chance has gone - Desktop dream deader than a Norwegian Blue   | TechEye .::. Size~: 44.43 KBOct 19 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith never seen this nym before...Oct 19 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @stevenrosenberg Debian Live is getting better all the time http://ht.ly/19vNwEOct 19 01:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2010/10/debian-live-is-getting-better.html .::. Size~: 3.72 KBOct 19 01:42
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Ender2070I found an LPIC-1 study guide for $2.00Oct 19 01:47
Ender2070LOLOct 19 01:47
Ender2070its from 2005Oct 19 01:47
Ender2070good old value villageOct 19 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Take a look, I found him familiar.Oct 19 01:47
Ender2070not that I need it: http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_sample_questionsOct 19 01:49
Ender2070lolOct 19 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exam 101: Sample Questions / LPIC-1 / The LPIC Program / Certification / Home - LPI -  .::. Size~: 26.93 KBOct 19 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes So much for Linux = 1% market share -Looking at Freenode.net ,theres 5x more users in the !Ubuntu channel than in !windows :-)Oct 19 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @diablod3 I love how Microsoft attacks !Java popularity, real classy http://ur1.ca/23vy9Oct 19 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: Chevron launched their "We Agree" campaign today, calling on oil companies to clean their messes. Jerks... http://ping.fm/IYOlPOct 19 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft sees "unprecedented wave" of Java malware exploits .::. Size~: 29.44 KBOct 19 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / BP Public Relations: Chevron launched their "We ... .::. Size~: 12.71 KBOct 19 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FUD attacks from Microsoft vs OOo, Linux, now Java. What's next?Oct 19 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jra Microsoft Office is an addictive drug. http://stop.zona-m.net/node/198. "Just Say No" :-).Oct 19 01:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft video proves that Microsoft Office is like cocaine and has dealers inside schools | Stop! .::. Size~: 15.38 KBOct 19 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My opinion of Thom on osnews is going downhillOct 19 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] #Drupal.org redesign outage timing not good for #AU. I can't go 5 minutes without referring to api.drupal.org. Resorting to Google cache.Oct 19 02:04
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56170073#notice-56656208 "@schestowitz that's quite the self-selecting sample there"Oct 19 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.27 KBOct 19 02:05
schestowitzWasn't meant to be serious, thus the smiley face :-)Oct 19 02:05
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bruce89helolOct 19 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bruce89 he's why I deleted OS News here 2 years agoOct 19 02:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !gnu #ballnux coming to schools http://ur1.ca/23wo8Oct 19 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Okay, this is ridiculous. Now I need the #Drupal handbook to remember how to use a module I wrote.Oct 19 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I seem to be in a bad mood againOct 19 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: openSUSE Lizards .::. Size~: 58.1 KBOct 19 02:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] My bot just made it's first @reality impersonation: http://pastebin.ca/1966409Oct 19 02:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: pastebin - Anonymous - post number 1966409 .::. Size~: 21.72 KBOct 19 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The new hardware era is about to begin: http://ur1.ca/23woy !gnu #microsoftOct 19 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Clementine music player goes mono… http://ur1.ca/23wp0 a benign mono :-)Oct 19 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Also, my bot keeps a database of all the username's it encounters in any notices and stores them for 'later use'. lol.Oct 19 02:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: News Flash: Bill Gates’ Successor Quits Microsoft! « Sex, math and programming .::. Size~: 38.78 KBOct 19 02:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Clementine music player goes mono… .::. Size~: 52.84 KBOct 19 02:14
schestowitzbruce89: what's up?Oct 19 02:14
bruce89och, I'm just annoyed for some reasonOct 19 02:15
schestowitzOzzie?Oct 19 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost hmm, the "drunk" bit sounds right, not sure about "rantatious"Oct 19 02:16
bruce89heh, I don't think it's thatOct 19 02:16
schestowitzUncle Fester drowns with the boatOct 19 02:16
hazzy:OOct 19 02:22
hazzyOzzie quit?Oct 19 02:22
schestowitzyeah :-)Oct 19 02:22
schestowitzMicrosoft's man #2Oct 19 02:22
hazzyWow, that is quite shockingOct 19 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'll try and drown it out with "The News Quiz"Oct 19 02:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn says: "outcome I want is for indiv. developers to be treated right by corporations in control of particular codebases" < key pointOct 19 02:24
cubevectorI wonder why he quitOct 19 02:24
hazzyJust Googled Ray Ozzie in past 24hOct 19 02:25
hazzyhttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Ray_Ozzie_leave_MicrosoftOct 19 02:25
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cubevectorprobably just got tired of it by the sound of thingsOct 19 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Dear folks, Any1 experiencing problems with latest Choqok build 0.9.92 Beta4 ???Oct 19 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is !Ubuntu 10.10 the perfect rescue distro? http://ur1.ca/23wsz "liked the fact that you get an automatic preview of .ogg sound"Oct 19 02:29
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schestowitzcubevector: AZune Fog failedOct 19 02:30
schestowitzThat's what he was onOct 19 02:30
schestowitzHe failed to move Microsoft to the FogOct 19 02:30
cubevectoryou know the Amiga types had zune before microsoft didOct 19 02:30
hazzyhttp://www.industrygamers.com/news/microsoft-reportedly-spending-half-a-billion-dollars-on-kinect-campaign/Oct 19 02:30
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schestowitzyeahOct 19 02:30
schestowitzHeheOct 19 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu , open source apps use on the rise: Linux Users Group http://ur1.ca/23wt2 !gnu !linux #auOct 19 02:31
schestowitzSony laughed at them for itOct 19 02:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu, open source apps use on the rise: Linux Users Group  - open source, Sydney Linux Users Group (SLUG), ubuntu - Techworld .::. Size~: 60.56 KBOct 19 02:31
hazzyHalf a billion on VP7 + half a billion on Kinect? Microsoft's profits will suffer greatlyOct 19 02:31
schestowitzabsurd headlines that make no sense, like selling out of preorders (finite quantities of something which is not released yet?)Oct 19 02:32
hazzyLOLOct 19 02:33
schestowitzI wrote about it on Sunday in IRCOct 19 02:33
schestowitzgave URLsOct 19 02:33
hazzyI'll just check logsOct 19 02:33
hazzyI keep logs tooOct 19 02:33
schestowitznot up yetOct 19 02:33
hazzyMy personal logsOct 19 02:34
cubevectorI'm watching the traffic on my hostOct 19 02:34
cubevectorquite a few Ubuntu users out thereOct 19 02:34
cubevectorand a bingbot :-/Oct 19 02:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink @bkuhn Anything which labeled "open source" where software freedom is not present-by-rule annoys me, not just open core.Oct 19 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ‘Pop' goes OSS http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ew/2010/10/18/stories/2010101850030100.htm Somewhat iffyOct 19 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell likely first to deliver !Ubuntu Light netbooks http://ur1.ca/23wwq Dell still there. !gnu !linuxOct 19 02:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Interesting - travel insurance for the US costs the same as it does for AntarcticaOct 19 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Dear readers, Any1 experiencing problems with latest Choqok build 0.9.92 Beta4 ???Oct 19 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] And now he's learning from spammers, great.Oct 19 02:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost oopsOct 19 02:47
scientesjhwhat would be a good audio player/manager for an embeded systemOct 19 03:01
scienteslike IVI?Oct 19 03:02
scienteswith iPod and MTP supportOct 19 03:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 18/10/2010: Fusion Linux 14, Debian Live Raves http://techrights.org/2010/10/18/debian-live-raves/Oct 19 03:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56172005#notice-56658166 "For rescuing Windows, I use a Mepis LiveCD, b/c it is easier to mount the HD rw."Oct 19 03:06
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nenolodDiablo-D3: namebrand says helloOct 19 03:07
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NameBrandDiablo-D3: I did *NOT* say that, thank you very much neno you assOct 19 03:07
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cubevector?Oct 19 03:08
nenolodinside atheme joke.Oct 19 03:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #NewsQuiz - "It's the Tories that are putting 'N' into 'cuts'"Oct 19 03:22
Diablo-D3nenolod: lolOct 19 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @fontana: @bkuhn Anything which labeled "open source" where software freedom is not present-by-rule annoys me, not just open core. <<+1Oct 19 03:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] The new #drupal.org seems to be getting a slashdotting.Oct 19 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] wasn't expecting such inteligence to come from such a mouthy bot.Oct 19 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @bkuhn Blech. @support, please take a look at unlimited.status.net and let's start cleaning up a bit there.Oct 19 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @bkuhn This is a great thread! Thanks for starting it here.Oct 19 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @evan,I actually use identi.ca for all my blog comments;Been seeking AJAX-y way to make thread here appear as "native-looking" blog commentsOct 19 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @bkuhn Cool! I think we'll have something that works well, incl. federation, for that soon. With 1-line JS include, is the plan.Oct 19 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @evan, I am extremely excited. I get a lot of complaints that comments on my blog don't appear on same page at ebb.org; will be glad for fixOct 19 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Wait, #Cygwin still requires copyright assignment? When will that be fixed? I agree with @rahulsundaram; a public list is needed.Oct 19 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn #Cygwin developers require it. Also #Red_Hat occasionally "sells exceptions" for Cygwin. All this was just inherited from Cygnus.Oct 19 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn Clearly #Cygwin does not need © assignment. Whether to abolish legacy Cygnus policy of selling exceptions is more difficult.Oct 19 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn will try to abolish #Cygwin © assignment within next few monthsOct 19 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @rahulsundaram Here is the public list of all FLOSS projects requiring copyright assignment to Red Hat: Cygwin.Oct 19 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] hmm, why was i posting from my bots account. hmm.Oct 19 04:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @rahulsundaram Public list of all FLOSS projects requiring formal CLA to Red Hat: JBoss.org projects, and that will be changed.Oct 19 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @rahulsundaram And #Fedora. New Fedora contributor agreement (not yet adopted) is not a real CLA, it is just masquerading as one.Oct 19 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] thar we go. @X11r6 wont mention anyone is his dents now. unless he's replying, of course.Oct 19 05:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] s/is/in - identi.ca needs automatic typo correction or somethingOct 19 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] testing...Oct 19 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @q4td “It is useless for sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion.” — William ...Oct 19 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New blog post: Silencing Online Activism: From “Officer Bubbles” to “Free Byron” http://ur1.ca/23y3w #human rights #democracy !canadaOct 19 06:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @jra Video interview with Rusty Russell (IBM OZlabs kernel guru). http://tiny.cc/5a3oi. Enjoy !Oct 19 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Another test!Oct 19 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #x11r6 is now accepting replies. Someone try it out.Oct 19 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] As usual, ready 45mins before the due time. Sometimes I wonder if my personal clock is skewed or simply I grew up in the wrong country.Oct 19 06:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @jra Microsoft Office is an addictive drug. http://stop.zona-m.net/node/198. "Just Say No" :-).Oct 19 06:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Somebody tell me some happy news about !Fedora, I need a kickstart today.Oct 19 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I totally believe you. :)Oct 19 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @haris@status.net Twitter gets to use photos for free? http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_gets_to_use_your_photos_for_free.phpOct 19 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I didn't have any real friends, so I coded @x11r6. Hurrah!Oct 19 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito The group doesOct 19 07:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Release: Linux Mint 10 RC http://ur1.ca/23p5z +reviews of 9 http://ur1.ca/23ysw http://ur1.ca/23ysxOct 19 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One week, three distributions (Day 2: !Kubuntu ) http://ur1.ca/23yue another new review http://ur1.ca/23yugOct 19 07:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One week, three distributions (Day 2: Kubuntu) | The Linux Experiment .::. Size~: 54.23 KBOct 19 07:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 110.8 KBOct 19 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu 10.10 reviews http://ur1.ca/23yv1 http://ur1.ca/23yv2Oct 19 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu 10.10 – the release cycle in review… http://ur1.ca/23yv5 http://ur1.ca/23yv6Oct 19 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Debian GNU/kFreeBSD Benchmarks With Its New Kernel http://ur1.ca/23ywf "Debian GNU/Linux continues to be a much faster operating system."Oct 19 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The Kid does it again: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=79087 #typicalcrosby #bouncyboards !pensOct 19 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #update: @x11r6 is now able to troll spammers.Oct 19 08:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 Reasons for Switching to !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/23z18 "the tide seems to be turning in its favor"Oct 19 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Steve Jobs: why #Android isn't open, and we won't build a 7" iPad - http://bit.ly/9XBjke full text of Steve's anti-Android rant #ipad #jobsOct 19 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @stephwho: Want a portable heater that is powered by the cold...Oct 19 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @glynmoody Awesome. Steve Jobs: The worldwide authority on openness. What a joke....Oct 19 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh first MS fretting about OpenOffice, now Jobs on Android...Oct 19 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Project Arcturus: The World’s First & Only Developer Intelligence Tool - http://bit.ly/cTvuy6 not free, but interesting #redmonkOct 19 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody @fabsh SteveJ is in FUD mode (to developers), but he's rightish on the 7" pads. Only, I don't get pads entirely.Oct 19 08:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Introducing Project Arcturus, Part 1: The Worlds First and Only Developer Intelligence Tool  tecosystems .::. Size~: 67.51 KBOct 19 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @glynmoody They are afraid of us. :DOct 19 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @schestowitz Nice, congratulations !Oct 19 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @fabsh yup, always a good sign...Oct 19 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft Research Launches WikiBhasha, Multilingual Content Creation Tool for Wikipedia - http://bit.ly/9rNoPw could be handy #wikipediaOct 19 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Ciao a tutti i !debianizzatiOct 19 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Book Search will never have an effective competitor - http://bit.ly/c7ecAi well, we knew that... #gbsOct 19 08:29
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schestowitzamarsh04: have you seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qub4lWT6GNk ?Oct 19 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @bkuhn #Shuttleworth, @sabdfl of !Ubuntu finally admits to #Open_Core plans for !Canonical , Ltd. I wrote a blog post about it: http: ...Oct 19 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner Yeah, no, I was in the middle of changing it, quickly :)Oct 19 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to do some work....Oct 19 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/10/2010: !Linux Mint 10 RC, !Debian GNU/kFreeBSD Benchmarks http://ur1.ca/23z8y !techrights #roundupOct 19 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Yeah, @x11r6 went a bit reply-crazy there. Sorry, all ;DOct 19 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @DmitryBaranovsk Ok. I thought it is your presentation. http://bit.ly/9PDkOuOct 19 08:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Narendra Sisodiya: @DmitryBaranovsk Ok. I tho ... .::. Size~: 12.5 KBOct 19 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] queue the hilariities in 10...Oct 19 08:46
sebsebseb Oct 19 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101019 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 19 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana nah, he's wrong about 7'' pads. Confusing resolution with physical size is dumb on his part.Oct 19 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Hey, Advocacy groups and NGOs you DON'T need Microsoft Free licenses, you have Free Software that gives you FREEDOM! http://is.gd/g7OX6Oct 19 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana pads are a way to carry a cheap computer you won't feel so bothered if it's stolen or gone :) the future will be phone sized.Oct 19 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #funfact: @x11r6 check's the public timeline for any dents that contain a special "happy word" and replies to them.Oct 19 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Looks like @x11r6 finally learned how to tag himself. Shit.Oct 19 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra #dubious, resolution important, but size matters too for eyesight. But you're right, he is confusing on that.Oct 19 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra cheap? Not iPads... ;-)Oct 19 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #x11r6 #update: Apparently "markov chains" are sex toys: http://identi.ca/notice/56680565Oct 19 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Skynet (x11r6)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Oct-10 07:59:40 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.26 KBOct 19 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #IBM's #SocialLens sounds very similar to #ushahidi's #swiftRiver - who's your daddy, IBM? ;-)Oct 19 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra also form factor matters: 10" @ 4:3 >> @ 16:9Oct 19 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Duncan McGreggor: A Visit with System76 http://goo.gl/t8UbOct 19 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Electric Duncan: A Visit with System76 .::. Size~: 81.44 KBOct 19 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Oracle wants #LibreOffice members to leave OOo council http://goo.gl/KOxCOct 19 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Ubuntu Software Center helping you clean up your applications http://goo.gl/2gR7Oct 19 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] fight terror, defend freedom - http://bit.ly/d2rDAk excellent points about technology and liberty; hope the UK gov is listening #freedomOct 19 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @ccbuhr: RT @epsiplatform: Free #opendata courses around the UK. http://bit.ly/cR31ZL So ppl know how to work with the data now available.Oct 19 09:17
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MinceRgeekingsOct 19 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What if We Ran Universities Like Wikipedia? - http://bit.ly/dBrIJF or like Twitter/identi.ca? #universitiesOct 19 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Microsoft attacks JAVA http://is.gd/g7QLd - Red Hat had patches in time: http://is.gd/g7QMU http://is.gd/g7QNk http://is.gd/g7QNX #FUD ?Oct 19 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] YouView Escapes Ofcom Inquiry Because It's Not Breaking Any Rules Yet - http://bit.ly/cepLFB and when it is, it will be too late #youviewOct 19 09:24
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cubevectorok I guess I'm ready to do the recordmydesktop thing with soundOct 19 09:28
sebsebsebhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/17183/is_the_linux_desktop_dream_deadOct 19 09:28
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cubevectorheh, we were talking about PCworld earlier...Oct 19 09:28
sebsebsebcubevector: yes the one on PC World about Desktop Linux being deadOct 19 09:31
sebsebsebcubevector: ,but what I just linked to is a reply to that basicalleyOct 19 09:31
sebsebsebPC World has some Linux articles sure,  or at the  American one, but PC World as a whole is very MicrosoftOct 19 09:32
sebsebsebcubevector: Read the link I gave, I like what he is calling usersOct 19 09:32
cubevectorah I seeOct 19 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "you will not be raptured if you are using condoms" - http://bit.ly/cYofDn Third Eagle of the Apocalypse tells it as it is #condom #raptureOct 19 09:32
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sebsebsebcubevector: yeah main strame people don't really know computers,  and so they won't care about GPL much  or understand, and thats what he seems to be pointing outOct 19 09:33
sebsebsebindeed at thatOct 19 09:33
sebsebsebcubevector: yes most Ubuntu users are pretty ignorant when it comes to  Linux, but thats since they are main streame usersOct 19 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer at face value: #FUD, 'cause graph shows "attempts". I'd rather see independent successful exploits stats before judgingOct 19 09:34
sebsebsebcubevector: labels and phones is where things are happening?  what does he mean?  towards the bottom of the articleOct 19 09:35
sebsebseblabels?Oct 19 09:35
sebsebseband Desktp Linux is so not dead, more and more people trying Ubuntu and other distros here and there instead/aswell  every dayOct 19 09:36
cubevectoryeah I don't agree with SJVN on that pointOct 19 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Defence Review - http://bit.ly/aTgmsB "terrorism does not pose an "existential threat" to the UK and our way of life." quite #ukOct 19 09:36
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sebsebsebcubevector: what did he mean labels?Oct 19 09:36
cubevectorummm, the word label doesn't appear in the articleOct 19 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It's Xi Jinping, baby! - http://bit.ly/dpA9BE the next face of China? #politics #chinaOct 19 09:37
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sebsebsebcubevector: okOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebcubevector: uhmmOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebyeahOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebI didn't see it properlyOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebnot got my glasses on,  plus some day light on the screen and yeahOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebcubevector: in fact my glasses I can hardly see out of them,  since they need washingOct 19 09:38
cubevectorsee, I don't agree with SJVN here because those tiny screens are uselessOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebhence not being on right nowOct 19 09:38
cubevectorsebsebseb, ok, npOct 19 09:38
sebsebsebthe tablets?Oct 19 09:38
cubevectoryeah I don't like tabletsOct 19 09:39
sebsebsebI think Linux is going mobile,  it has already look at AndroidOct 19 09:39
sebsebsebthing isOct 19 09:39
sebsebsebmost of the Android users won't know they are running something called LInux :(Oct 19 09:39
gnufreexAndroid is realy not Linux.Oct 19 09:39
sebsebsebgnufreex: it is LinuxOct 19 09:39
cubevectorwell I can run OpenBSD on zaurus but guess what?Oct 19 09:39
sebsebsebgnufreex: since Linux is just a kernelOct 19 09:39
cubevectorI don't bother :)Oct 19 09:39
gnufreexThey forked kernel...Oct 19 09:39
gnufreexIt has wakelocks, so drivers can't be merged upstream.Oct 19 09:40
cubevectortiny screen, tiny buttons... it's ok for messing around onOct 19 09:40
sebsebsebcubevector: netbooks are sucky as well reallyOct 19 09:40
sebsebsebcubevector: quite popular thoughOct 19 09:40
cubevectorI'm on a 19 inch monitor at the momentOct 19 09:40
cubevectorhard to go to 10" or whatever tablets are nowOct 19 09:40
sebsebsebDesktop Linux?  properly main strame?  maybe in a few yearsOct 19 09:40
sebsebsebor maybe more like another ten eyarsOct 19 09:41
sebsebsebyearsOct 19 09:41
cubevectorin fact, I have multiple monitorsOct 19 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Objet is Certified - http://bit.ly/bVWdTX "able to deliver various types of 3D printing equipment into a wide variety of medical roles" wowOct 19 09:41
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cubevectorcan't do that on a tabletOct 19 09:41
MinceRLinuxLibre is a fork too, yet it's still Linux :>Oct 19 09:41
sebsebsebI used to care loads about Desktp LInux goining propelry main streame, but I don't care as much nowOct 19 09:41
cubevectorI do demos nowOct 19 09:41
sebsebsebsince well if it does that, loads of idiots will be using it as wellOct 19 09:41
MinceRthe distro for the idiots is already readyOct 19 09:42
cubevectoryou can't do real work on a tablet reallyOct 19 09:42
sebsebsebloads of not very nice people will be using it, and asking for support and  going nasty with people, when they don't get the support they want and suchOct 19 09:42
MinceRdepends on the tabletOct 19 09:42
gnufreexMinceR: It is now realy a fork. LinuxLibre just removes blobs. It is 100% compatible with Linux kernel. Android is not. Drivers won't compile.Oct 19 09:42
sebsebsebMinceR: Ubuntu you mean?Oct 19 09:42
MinceRsebsebseb: exactlyOct 19 09:42
MinceRgnufreex: icOct 19 09:42
cubevectorhmmm, that's not goodOct 19 09:42
sebsebsebMinceR: not properly ready,  a lot of hardware issues stillOct 19 09:42
sebsebsebMinceR: for exampleOct 19 09:43
MinceRsebsebseb: all mainstream desktop os-es have a lot of hardware issuesOct 19 09:43
MinceR"ready for the desktop" does not mean "flawless"Oct 19 09:43
MinceR(if it did, nothing would be ready)Oct 19 09:44
cubevectorI think that's a silly comment anywayOct 19 09:44
cubevectorbeen doing the linux desktop thing for 7 years nowOct 19 09:44
gnufreexI don't see other reason than inertia. And maybe Microsoft FUD and negative marketing.Oct 19 09:44
sebsebsebMinceR: more market share, means driversOct 19 09:44
sebsebseblook at WindowsOct 19 09:44
cubevectoroh and I did a little bit of work on XP today... it's dual boot and you know XP is hella slowOct 19 09:44
sebsebsebalso on the subject of drivers, really Windows has pretty horrible hardware support, hence all those driversOct 19 09:45
MinceRsebsebseb: yes, but consider hw that runs with xp but not with vista; or runs with vista but not with xpOct 19 09:45
sebsebsebMinceR: yepOct 19 09:45
MinceRor runs with either but the drivers are crapOct 19 09:45
sebsebsebMinceR: and Linux can run most of thatOct 19 09:45
sebsebsebyep the older PC's that won't be compatible with later versions of WindowsOct 19 09:45
sebsebsebwill work with Linux :DOct 19 09:45
MinceR(such as hauppauge drivers, the last time i checked)Oct 19 09:45
sebsebsebproblem isa  lot of average consumers just basically throw out old computer, and get a newOct 19 09:45
cubevectorLinux is for self-startersOct 19 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How We Collaborate is More Important Than Who Collaborate - http://bit.ly/aKzvHD "emotional intelligence" key (via @amayfield)Oct 19 09:46
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sebsebsebMinceR: however yeah Ubuntu for the  ignorant people,  and better distros for the rest of us :)Oct 19 09:46
MinceRand OSuX has practically no driver supportOct 19 09:46
cubevectorI can't think of any OS that's totally intuititiveOct 19 09:46
sebsebsebanyway bad news peopleOct 19 09:46
sebsebsebmy Fedora 13 frooze earlierOct 19 09:46
gnufreexOSuX will never get driver support.Oct 19 09:46
sebsebseb!Oct 19 09:46
MinceRcubevector: "the only intuitive interface is the nipple. all else is learned."Oct 19 09:46
cubevectorintuitive evenOct 19 09:47
cubevectorI've had uptimes over a year on fc1 sebsebsebOct 19 09:47
sebsebsebMinceR: gnufreex  Ubuntu for those that don't know about or care about or understand properly about, software freedomOct 19 09:47
MinceRindeedOct 19 09:48
sebsebsebWinbuntu that looks like OS XOct 19 09:48
sebsebsebanyway I got a shock yesterday, I was chatting to someone who I know from the big Ubuntu channel, and uhmmOct 19 09:49
cubevectoranyways, learning is good for youOct 19 09:49
sebsebsebhe hadn't even read theOct 19 09:49
sebsebsebgnu.org and then philoshopey section articles apparnetlyOct 19 09:49
MinceRi suspect most gnu/linux users haven'tOct 19 09:49
sebsebsebright, but this guyOct 19 09:50
sebsebsebhe knows Linux distros reasoably wellOct 19 09:50
sebsebsebso it was shockingOct 19 09:50
cubevectordoes he at least know GNU = GNU is Not Unix?Oct 19 09:50
sebsebsebMinceR: there are people who don't like readingOct 19 09:50
sebsebsebby the way what is Open Core?  I still didn't look upOct 19 09:51
sebsebseb,but read some stuff on thatOct 19 09:51
sebsebsebcubevector: probablyOct 19 09:51
MinceROpen Core means building lots of nonfree stuff around FLOSS and selling itOct 19 09:51
MinceRit's a lot like shareware, except the core is FLOSSOct 19 09:51
cubevectorsounds Eric RaymondishOct 19 09:52
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah there was a good link about thatOct 19 09:52
sebsebseband thats what Ubuntu are starting to doOct 19 09:52
MinceRand it's what mac asay was the cheerleader for for agesOct 19 09:52
sebsebsebUbuntu One,  propritary software from the software centre, only one app at the moment thoughOct 19 09:52
MinceRand it's what shuttlecock recently declared to support, publiclyOct 19 09:52
sebsebsebUbuntu Music Store as wellOct 19 09:52
sebsebsebMinceR: yep thats what I am on aboutOct 19 09:52
sebsebsebMinceR: also I took part in that Ask Mark sessionOct 19 09:52
sebsebseband then later read a blog entry / article that mentioned itOct 19 09:53
sebsebsebafter I was given teh link by someoneOct 19 09:53
sebsebsebMinceR: also Jono Bacon's ustream session uhmm a few weeks or so ago now, or whenever it wasOct 19 09:53
sebsebsebI asked a questionOct 19 09:53
sebsebsebbaiscally I asked, surely having  eight or so money making services in Ubuntu, would make it like propritary software?Oct 19 09:54
sebsebseband I got the whats wrong with making money replyOct 19 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Access Advantage - http://bit.ly/aL0Gqy "It is about increasing the impact and thereby the progress of research itself" #oa #researchOct 19 09:54
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MinceRapparently "making money" == "selling nonfree licenses"Oct 19 09:54
MinceRin novell2.0 land, that isOct 19 09:55
sebsebseband I got the thing about how Canonical employees could be funded after whatever, and I am like donations, and its like noOct 19 09:55
sebsebseband yeah Ubuntu is propritaryOct 19 09:55
sebsebseblikeOct 19 09:55
sebsebsebnowOct 19 09:55
sebsebsebthis is only the start of itOct 19 09:55
MinceRno, it's well underwayOct 19 09:55
MinceRthe start was when they started pushing mono despite all the issuesOct 19 09:56
sebsebsebwell I don't know about you guys, but I would much rather support a true community distro with a non profit organisation behind itOct 19 09:56
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MinceRso would iOct 19 09:56
sebsebseband thats what I will be doing with  Mageia :)Oct 19 09:56
MinceRi didn't like mandriva, so for now i'll stay with debian... at least until i finish my testing (for which i have no time)Oct 19 09:56
sebsebsebFedora helps Redhat, but Redhat already has money, and all that, so  they can sponser it and all that.  and so no commerical stuff for FedoraOct 19 09:57
sebsebsebMinceR: oh Mageia will be Mandriva done right, basically :)Oct 19 09:57
MinceRi hope you're rightOct 19 09:57
sebsebsebits a forkOct 19 09:57
gnufreexThe start was when they let L***x crowd and MSFT evangelists do perception management on their forums.Oct 19 09:57
sebsebsebwell Canonical think that to go main strameOct 19 09:58
sebsebsebgot to be reasonably friendly with commercial software as well, well I guess thats what they thinkOct 19 09:58
gnufreexThat's bsOct 19 09:58
MinceRthey're Doing It WrongOct 19 09:58
gnufreexTo go mainstreme, you need funcionality. You can get that from Free Software.Oct 19 09:58
sebsebsebyes most Ubuntu users won't really care about software freedom or know about it like I was saying, but what they do care about, is getting  good software for free legally, free as in priceOct 19 09:59
MinceRno need to put nonfree stuff into the core of the system and into the default install for it to support nonfree commercial softwareOct 19 09:59
sebsebsebMinceR: indeedOct 19 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Poll: Will Rooney Stay or Go? Option 3: The Future? Only God knows ;) (in re winker) !mufc (via the Caf)Oct 19 09:59
gnufreexSad thing is, if Canonical fails, free sofware on desktop is dead.Oct 19 09:59
MinceRi doubt thatOct 19 09:59
gnufreexThey will point finger: You can't make money, Canonical failed, Red Hat escaped.Oct 19 10:00
sebsebsebgnufreex: no if it fails, people will find another distro, most of them I guessOct 19 10:00
MinceRit worked before canonical existed and it will keep on workingOct 19 10:00
gnufreexNobody will bunle it on PCsOct 19 10:00
cubevectorexactly soOct 19 10:00
MinceRdistros come and go, the free desktop staysOct 19 10:00
gnufreexGame overOct 19 10:00
sebsebsebgnufreex: that might not matter in the end thoughOct 19 10:00
MinceRhw makers are making money with itOct 19 10:00
sebsebsebgnufreex: if enough Ubuntu users move to better distrosOct 19 10:00
sebsebsebgnufreex: they may also reolise that those distros are better, and start promoting those moreOct 19 10:00
sebsebsebthis idea thst tuff has to be pre installed to become properly main strame, I don't belive itOct 19 10:01
sebsebsebI mean look at FIrefoxOct 19 10:01
sebsebsebok so a browser and OS are quite differnet, but stillOct 19 10:01
MinceRalso, once novell2.0 alienates the community, someone else may take their placeOct 19 10:01
sebsebsebFirefox became very popular, because the word got round on the Internet and so onOct 19 10:01
sebsebsebnot, because OEM's pre installed itOct 19 10:01
sebsebseba lot of Ubuntu users, even those with Windows 7, and oh I know from #ubuntuOct 19 10:02
gnufreexIt is not same. One app vs whole OSOct 19 10:02
sebsebseba lot of them want to get rid of WIndows 7Oct 19 10:02
gnufreexI agree with bill gates on one thing: Let's face it, the average computer user has the brain of a Spider MonkeyOct 19 10:02
sebsebseband Ubuntu has quite a lot of users now, do you really think the happy users, will just give up on  Desktop Linux, because Ubuntu fails?Oct 19 10:02
sebsebsebI don't think soOct 19 10:02
sebsebsebthey will go to another distroOct 19 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I'm #disturbed by claims that #RAND is compatible with !FS. It is NOT, by&large, it's against Freedom # 2.Oct 19 10:02
MinceRso the average computer user runs JavaScript in their mind? :>Oct 19 10:03
sebsebsebalso most of Ubuntu is  opensource/freesoftware anyway, and so could be forked if neassarey?Oct 19 10:03
sebsebsebwell sure thats happended already really, Mint for exampleOct 19 10:03
MinceRit can and it already was numerous timesOct 19 10:03
MinceRmint is even moving off ubuntu to debianOct 19 10:03
sebsebsebso if Ubuntu itself dies, no big deal really,  there are other distros people can use insteadOct 19 10:03
MinceRit's a pity they're also moving to a rolling release schemeOct 19 10:03
sebsebsebMinceR: Mint is having both versions at the moment thoughOct 19 10:04
sebsebsebDesktop Linux does not need Ubuntu to have a lot of users, it really doesn'tOct 19 10:04
gnufreexThat is the problem, Ubuntu users are told that open source is unsustainable and unrealistic. By no other than UF admin.Oct 19 10:04
gnufreexThey spew that shit every day on UF.Oct 19 10:05
sebsebsebalso Mandriva used to be the most popular distro, but then issues, and what happended?  yep  most of their users went to other distrosOct 19 10:05
MinceRthen they can do some damageOct 19 10:05
cubevectorwell...Oct 19 10:05
MinceRbut not all ubuntu users visit UF, do they?Oct 19 10:05
sebsebsebMinceR: Ubuntu Forums?  whats that got to do with itOct 19 10:05
sebsebsebMinceR: and sure not all of them will use thatOct 19 10:05
cubevectorisn't Ubuntu sort of a johnny-come-lately anyway?Oct 19 10:05
sebsebsebMinceR: or be registered on it at leastOct 19 10:05
sebsebsebcubevector: what do you mean by that?Oct 19 10:06
cubevectorlots of older distros existed before UbuntuOct 19 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] Made the mistake of watching "How to Lose Friends and Alienate People" after reading "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Um, help!Oct 19 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Microsoft: 0.006% of their customers see Java exploits http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2010/10/18/have-you-checked-the-java.aspxOct 19 10:06
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sebsebsebIf only more people knew, that Ubuntu, Fedora,  Mandriva,  PC Linux OS,  Unity Linux (whcih I haven't tried),  OpenSuse, and so on,  are all pretty similarOct 19 10:07
cubevectorbeware the Hydra :)Oct 19 10:07
sebsebsebthey all run like 99.5% of the same appsOct 19 10:07
cubevectorcut off one limb, and two grow backOct 19 10:07
sebsebseband they all work pretty much the sameOct 19 10:07
sebsebsebjust differnet ways to install software basically, and thats about itOct 19 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Listen to #Boxcutters interviewing Paul Cornell & Robert Shearman. It's funny. http://ur1.ca/23zwn !DrWhoOct 19 10:07
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sebsebsebwe have types of distros, and those are the newbies ones, I just mentioned, and yeah what i just saidOct 19 10:08
cubevectoryeah Ubuntu didn't even appear until 2004Oct 19 10:08
sebsebsebcubevector: yepOct 19 10:08
sebsebseblet it die for all I  careOct 19 10:08
sebsebsebsadly though, I will still help with it sometimes, because I like helping newbies hmmOct 19 10:08
gnufreexRed Hat 'escaped' desktop year before ubuntuOct 19 10:08
sebsebsebin a way though, having a commercial distro as the most popular,  or one of the most, but also a community distro, would be goodOct 19 10:09
gnufreexI mean, year before Ubuntu cameOct 19 10:09
sebsebsebI mean there are lot of people who think stuff sucks, unless its from a companyOct 19 10:09
sebsebseba lot of people who think free sucksOct 19 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Popular Screensaver "Fliqlo" Comes To Linux [Installation Instructions] http://bit.ly/aERIHDOct 19 10:09
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sebsebsebfree as in price that isOct 19 10:09
cubevectordoes apache suck? I don't think soOct 19 10:09
sebsebseband  the kind of people who think,  free as in price might be  good, but only if a company is behind itOct 19 10:10
gnufreexsebsebseb: That is main reason why Red Hat gave up: Brand dilutionOct 19 10:10
cubevectorit's a silly argumentOct 19 10:10
sebsebsebcubevector: I am talking in generalOct 19 10:10
sebsebsebwhat main streame people thinkOct 19 10:10
cubevectordoes Linux on super computers suck? You can see how silly it isOct 19 10:10
sebsebsebsame with anti virus for Windows, a  lot will think the free ones suck, and that the paid are good and so onOct 19 10:10
sebsebsebpeople trust companies,  as stupid as that may beOct 19 10:11
cubevectorI can safely say that windows sucks more than linux doesOct 19 10:11
sebsebsebcubevector: indeedOct 19 10:11
sebsebsebI remmber when I was telling my mother about Ubuntu and maybe even older brother at the same timeOct 19 10:11
sebsebsebhow I wanted to maybe like promote it at my little brothers school, since all the good educational apps and such, or whateverOct 19 10:12
sebsebsebthen when I mention how there was a company behind it, then it sounded good.  well however this went, was over a year ago nowOct 19 10:12
sebsebsebthere is also this idea, that a distro can't be the most popular,  if its from a non profit organisation, because  of the money issues, and donationsOct 19 10:13
sebsebsebwell I guess certian people thin kthis.  I think a distro from a non profit organisation can handle the amount of users Ubuntu has now,  with enough donationsOct 19 10:13
sebsebseband a good enough community of course :)Oct 19 10:13
sebsebsebI realy don't belive it, that the most popular Desktop Linux distro, has to have a for profit company behind itOct 19 10:14
sebsebseband like I was saying, ideally maybe, it would be a good idea for say Ubuntu  the commercial distro,  and  maybe Mageia for example when made the community distro,  to have most Desktop Linux users togetherOct 19 10:15
gnufreexDebian is best community distroOct 19 10:15
sebsebsebthat way can cater to both type of users, those who want to use stuff from companies, and those who don't  mind using stuff from non profit organisationsOct 19 10:15
sebsebsebgnufreex: Debian uhmmOct 19 10:15
sebsebsebgnufreex: Debian is ok sure, butOct 19 10:16
MinceRsebsebseb: mandriva uhmmOct 19 10:16
MinceR;)Oct 19 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] can’t say I see an ‘unprecedented wave’. data provided is lacking- no historic only current snapshot, graphs poorly designed. mostly #crapOct 19 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Must sleep now, night Identicats :)Oct 19 10:16
sebsebsebquiet a lot of Debian users, will recommend Ubuntu to new users hmmOct 19 10:16
gnufreexI am not sure if Mageia can catch up.Oct 19 10:16
cubevectoraside from Windows and Mac, what would you say the next biggest commercial OS would be?Oct 19 10:16
gnufreexcatch on..Oct 19 10:16
sebsebsebgnufreex: there isn't even an ISO just yetOct 19 10:16
sebsebsebcubevector: at the moment, UbuntuOct 19 10:16
gnufreexIt is created by few ex Mandriva employees.Oct 19 10:16
MinceRcubevector: desktop PC OS?Oct 19 10:17
cubevectoryesOct 19 10:17
sebsebsebgnufreex: most of the current Manriva community are behind itOct 19 10:17
MinceR:>Oct 19 10:17
gnufreexI think they don't have enough manpower to make frequent releases and updates.Oct 19 10:17
sebsebsebgnufreex: stuff is being sorted out nowOct 19 10:17
gnufreexMandriva community are users.Oct 19 10:17
sebsebsebgnufreex: and I think they will have :)Oct 19 10:17
sebsebsebgnufreex: most of the Mandriva developers are behind it as well, as far as I knowOct 19 10:17
sebsebsebgnufreex: or at least the Euroepan ones, because they lost their jobOct 19 10:17
cubevectormaybe Solaris or HP-UXOct 19 10:18
sebsebsebcubevector: Solaris noOct 19 10:18
sebsebsebSolaris is not a Desktop OSOct 19 10:18
MinceRneither is HP-SUXOct 19 10:18
sebsebsebcubevector: or I guess it can be, I  don't use itOct 19 10:18
gnufreexI am sad that Mandriva didn't continue.Oct 19 10:18
sebsebsebMinceR: and yeah I was thinking that as wellOct 19 10:18
cubevectorok, then I have no idea what the third isOct 19 10:18
sebsebsebgnufreex: oh Mandriva is still continuingOct 19 10:18
sebsebsebgnufreex: just no version untill next year,  Gnome is probably dead now, unless community make itOct 19 10:19
sebsebsebgnufreex: and they will target their big paid for customersOct 19 10:19
sebsebseboh and Russians own it nowOct 19 10:19
gnufreexI don't know why they fired all in Europe...Oct 19 10:19
gnufreexWho cares where sofware is written.Oct 19 10:19
sebsebsebMandriva can't compete properly agaisnt UbuntuOct 19 10:20
sebsebseblet it die for all I careOct 19 10:20
sebsebseband let us have a nice fork :)Oct 19 10:20
cubevectorOS/2 :)Oct 19 10:20
sebsebsebMandriva has a bad name nowOct 19 10:20
sebsebsebsince the money issues and all thatOct 19 10:20
cubevectoralthough not too many usersOct 19 10:20
MinceRos/2 is deadOct 19 10:20
MinceRand so is eCSOct 19 10:20
gnufreexthey only needs sales and tech support in the market they intend to target. Developers can be on Mars.Oct 19 10:20
sebsebsebaltough maybe the next Mandriva will be better than the first Mageia, for KDE hmmOct 19 10:21
sebsebsebMandriva is nice yeah :)Oct 19 10:21
sebsebseb,but  it fails now as a commercial distro, and been like that for yearsOct 19 10:21
sebsebsebas for Ubuntu dieing I guess many would move to  Linux Mint Debian Edition or whateverOct 19 10:21
sebsebseband as ohiahom would say, distro deaths are goodOct 19 10:22
cubevectorhmm, why did he say that?Oct 19 10:22
sebsebsebcubevector: since then distros take the good features and do them, or whatever he was saying beforeOct 19 10:22
sebsebsebanyway Ubuntu may lose a lot of users next year, depending on how they deal with Gnome 3Oct 19 10:23
sebsebseb:DOct 19 10:23
cubevectorFOSS never really diesOct 19 10:23
cubevectorif you really wanted to you could keep using some ancient FOSS OSOct 19 10:23
cubevectorkeep the old libsOct 19 10:23
sebsebsebcubevector: yep I know and yep I knowOct 19 10:23
cubevectorand do your own upgradesOct 19 10:23
sebsebsebFOSS lives onOct 19 10:23
sebsebsebas long as computers existOct 19 10:23
MinceRif you can get it to run on your ironOct 19 10:23
sebsebseband someone wants to develope the program stillOct 19 10:23
sebsebsebanwayy Ubuntu and Mint shoudl be first stepping stone distros from Windows or Mac OS XOct 19 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody: or you can check what a #RAND license looks like: http://is.gd/g7TMb - Hint: read Section 3 (esp. 3.3(a))Oct 19 10:24
sebsebseband then idealy people should move on to better distros :)Oct 19 10:24
cubevectoryeah I suppose no one would run Linux 1.0 :)Oct 19 10:25
cubevectorthere is a limit to everythingOct 19 10:25
sebsebsebin fact Mint is pretty much,   most of the people in their IRC use other distros and so onOct 19 10:25
cubevectordid you ever go back to KDE 3.5.10 MinceR?Oct 19 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @carlopiana thanks, but that doesn't seem to have a 3.3(a)...Oct 19 10:26
sebsebsebcubevector: that reminds me I am going to vm Trinity, but not yetOct 19 10:26
gnufreexI know what I'll use from now: ArchOct 19 10:26
cubevectorI setup icewm on OpenBSDOct 19 10:26
MinceRcubevector: did not implement many changes, but the VM on the laptop i got for work use runs Debian Lenny with KDE 3.5.10Oct 19 10:26
sebsebsebgnufreex: Why?Oct 19 10:26
gnufreexsebsebseb Why not?Oct 19 10:27
MinceR(no time to try/switch distros otherwise)Oct 19 10:27
sebsebsebgnufreex: no I am not saying  there is something wrong  with doing Arch, I am wondering why you  want toOct 19 10:27
cubevectorwhy do I run fc1? why do I run OpenBSD? :)Oct 19 10:27
cubevectorcuz I canOct 19 10:28
gnufreexI want to be geekyOct 19 10:28
gnufreexLolOct 19 10:28
gnufreexI don't know.Oct 19 10:28
gnufreexI really like Arch, because it is like Gentoo, just without compiling.Oct 19 10:28
MinceRand without docsOct 19 10:29
cubevectorI wouldn't mind writing a WM in C actuallyOct 19 10:29
cubevectorthen CubeOS would be born :)Oct 19 10:29
gnufreexMinceR: How do you mean without docs?Oct 19 10:29
cubevectorsort ofOct 19 10:29
gnufreexMinceR: it has wiki, all documented.Oct 19 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @tricknik: Kickstart Thimbl! We need votes. VOTING HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN & our votes have been reset to 0. Please vote http://ping.fm/6JaZOct 19 10:29
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MinceRgnufreex: afaik their policy is to remove documentation from packages and as far as i could tell, their package build scripts do just thatOct 19 10:29
cubevectorhmmmOct 19 10:30
MinceRgnufreex: they have this bullshit idea that "durr hurr everything is available online anyway"Oct 19 10:30
cubevectortotally the opposite of OpenBSD thenOct 19 10:30
gnufreexInstall lynx and go read wikiOct 19 10:30
MinceRyeah, except for the whole (1) not all manpages are (especially not up-to-date), (2) not all info pages are, (3) not all READMEs are, (4) not all html-docs are, (5) etc., (6) good luck fixing network access-related problems thenOct 19 10:30
cubevectorno one wants to write man pages, that's the thingOct 19 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody fool of me! I linked the interim products. The real RAND is http://ur1.ca/2403u (auto-shrinking sucks).Oct 19 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @jwildeboer Not so much FUD as spinning the deficiencies of the update mechanism so they can slope the blame away.Oct 19 10:31
MinceRalso, good luck using the computer when out of reach of the networkOct 19 10:31
cubevectorI wrote one thoughOct 19 10:31
MinceRcubevector: they don't have to, the upstream authors already didOct 19 10:31
cubevectorwellOct 19 10:31
gnufreexDidn't think about that. But didn't have network problems either...Oct 19 10:32
cubevectoryou could imagine someone without internet access...Oct 19 10:32
cubevectorpainful but possibleOct 19 10:32
MinceRwhere i go to holidays sometimes has pretty bad mobile connectivity and no permanent internet connection (the latter because it would cost too much for such sporadic use)Oct 19 10:32
MinceRbut even in the subway there's only EDGE and even that likes to dropOct 19 10:33
MinceRbesides, it's not like docs take up too much spaceOct 19 10:33
MinceRi wonder if current pacman can downgrade packages properlyOct 19 10:35
MinceRback when i tried arch, it couldn'tOct 19 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] "Zenith's first TV remote control was decried by the broadcasters as a tool of piracy" http://ur1.ca/24052 #wtfOct 19 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @tricknik: Link wrong, here is the correct one: http://ping.fm/6JaZl <-- vote for Thimbl & pass it on! | DoneOct 19 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @webmink ACK - lack of known good update mechanisms results in not updating at all. Agreed, that's core problem here.Oct 19 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "[Polizisten] werfen auf Befehl Steine oder Flaschen in Richtung der Polizei, damit die dann mit Räumung beginnen kann." http://is.gd/g7UUTOct 19 10:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @epsiplatform: Free #opendata courses around the UK. http://bit.ly/cR31ZL So ppl know how to work with the data now available.Oct 19 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Don't you just love how Ubuntu keeps reinventing the wheel (panel applets) over and over again and then hypes that as an awesome feature. m(Oct 19 10:59
gnufreexNut Jobs is at it again http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8072542/Google-Android-isnt-really-that-open-says-Steve-Jobs.htmlOct 19 11:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] So much proprietary s/w advice offered 2 Vol Sector, makes one weep http://ur1.ca/24087 - only a handful of wise heads offer sanity #CiviCRMOct 19 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rend Is Too Damn High Party http://ur1.ca/240ch #holyshit I wish I lived in NY just to vote for this guyOct 19 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @bayartb: Pour soutenir @laquadrature efficacement, les dons mensuels: https://vador.fdn.fr/fdn2/don (SSL refusé par Win, pas de danger)Oct 19 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "Cat in wheelie bin" is beginning to trend on twitter thanks to the British sense of hypocrisy on animal rights. #veganOct 19 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Want to Change German Copyright Law? - http://bit.ly/ag3uCQ here's you big chance: comments invited #copyright #deOct 19 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Lot of Ubuntu criticism lately fabs, you defend it when somebody else criticises.Oct 19 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @debian !Debian welcomes non-packaging contributors as Project members - http://master.debian.org/~secretary/gr_nonpackagers/Oct 19 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] HITB KL presentation materials - http://is.gd/g7YiU - interesting to see iphone malware targets jailbroken devicesOct 19 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @fabsh There's a small firm from Redmond that does the same thing....except it costs money to find out... !microsoft !windowsOct 19 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Let me restate my case: #BSA asks all #RAND be equals u/ #EIF v.2. That w'd allow MPEG-style. Some RAND are acceptable: those #openstandardOct 19 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @carlopiana RF as preferred, RAND as acceptable under clear ex ante terms that allow Open Source/FS?Oct 19 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer no. "Compatible w/ FOSS" is subset of RF, which is subset of RAND. We're talking about acceptance criteria here.Oct 19 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Off to a Wikipedia-related meeting!Oct 19 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @raphaelhertzog: Official press release is not yet out, but !Debian decided to make it easier to join for non-packaging contributors \o/Oct 19 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fernandoike: #Debian welcomes non-packaging contributors as Project members - http://master.debian.org/~secretary/gr_nonpackagers/Oct 19 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @micu: Lobbyists clash over #OpenStandards in Europe >> http://is.gd/g7TsU << !FLOSS !FOSS !fs !FSF !FSFE !blackouteuropeOct 19 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @aprilorg: Migration informatique à la ville de Marseille: chronologie des actions menées par l'April http://ur1.ca/23zyz !aprilOct 19 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @dkd903: Try Out #Edubuntu Online Using Edubuntu WebLive - http://digitizor.com/?p=8631 !ubuntuOct 19 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @carlchenet: New blog post (fr): !Debian avec le noyau de FreeBSD : Debian GNU/kFreeBSD http://is.gd/g7PWvOct 19 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Steve Jobs: why #Android isn't open http://bit.ly/9XBjke full text of Steve's anti-Android rantOct 19 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: One week, three distributions (Day 2: !Kubuntu ) http://ur1.ca/23yue another new review http://ur1.ca/23yugOct 19 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Release: Linux Mint 10 RC http://ur1.ca/23p5z +reviews of 9 http://ur1.ca/23ysw http://ur1.ca/23ysxOct 19 12:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mariuz: Good rats are leaving the sinking ship http://tinyurl.com/2uwlleyOct 19 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @osc: #wow, it seems #cinelerra 4.2 was quietly released a couple of days ago http://is.gd/g7JcS !fs !gnu !visualOct 19 12:26
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gnufreexhttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/6f638e54-db10-11df-a870-00144feabdc0.htmlOct 19 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mirceamitu: One Step Closer To Speedier, Bootless Computers http://bit.ly/bnPm5DOct 19 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Attacks on Software Freedom Usually Mean That It is Winning http://ur1.ca/240y8 #OpenOffice .org, !GNU !Linux and !Java FUD this monthOct 19 12:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozartrocksro: Un articol delicios din Jurnalul Național, TARE DE TOT, despre reclamele tâmpite :-D http://j.mp/dvQUsTOct 19 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] My iPod plays oggs http://ht.ly/19wtCGOct 19 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Marek Mahut: Red Hat and Fedora in Bratislava http://bit.ly/cjpIEKOct 19 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: Popular Screensaver "Fliqlo" Comes To Linux [Installation Instructions] http://goo.gl/fb/rmdFjOct 19 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Keeping control of your source code didn't magically make Windows secure, and it won't make this Indian OS secure." - http://is.gd/g81bMOct 19 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh is right, Twitter sucks at keeping track of conversations, identi.ca is much betterOct 19 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having a Nescafé RicoréOct 19 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] RT @grmpyoldman: Pssst. @piracy http://www.deletion-not-blocking.eu #petitionOct 19 12:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @jwildeboer This announcement, like most announcements by Indian government agencies, is ... http://ur1.ca/24154 http://ur1.ca/24155Oct 19 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BSA Lobbying Against Standards in Europe is Old News http://ur1.ca/2416e Business Software Alliance (BSA) actually started this years agoOct 19 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] My post has been thrown into the pub's alley behind the locked gate again and it's raining. Considering buying a fishing rod...Oct 19 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @gotunandan Yep, just like the 10$ Laptop and the 35$ tablet ;-)Oct 19 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] ♻ @schestowitz #BSA Lobbying Against Standards in Europe is Old News http://ur1.ca/2416e Business Software Alliance started this years agoOct 19 13:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-19: Sender ID Finds Followers Ahead of Approval If anyone has forgotten why RAND and RAND-Z ter... http://bit.ly/90cTWjOct 19 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The Grand secret (Indian Govt.) OS. http://greatbong.net/2010/10/14/the-grand-secret-os/ Blog and comments are full of WINOct 19 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @jwildeboer yes very much like that !Oct 19 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I need a stick, some string, a rubber band, a ladder, and immunity from prosecution.Oct 19 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] More details about Thursday's webcast with author Joseph Reagle talking about how #Wikipedia #collaboration works http://bit.ly/djbydOOct 19 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] ♻ @fossbox: Hurry up @joinDiaspora - can't take much more of Facebook's contempt for privacy: http://is.gd/g82FHOct 19 13:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oooh, http://drupal.org has had it's revamp, caught me offguard, even though I knew it was planned. It's lookin' good, if a bit differentOct 19 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Way to go for the Italian passport authorities; the official website says various things, reality begs to differs. I had to pay the full €90Oct 19 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] horrible connection here! cloning a git repo failed several times: remote end hang up?! #cripplenet is bad for society!Oct 19 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Elementary GTK Theme 2.0 (With Optional Dark Panel) In Ubuntu http://bit.ly/aYh4QoOct 19 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I don't recall ordering a cement mixer. What is the ordering of a cement mixer anyway?Oct 19 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The sudden absence of the distracting sound of the cement mixer is very distracting.Oct 19 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “OMGUbuntu Makes a Dig at Mono?” http://ur1.ca/241e9 OMGUbuntu on #Clementine !ubuntu #suse #opensuseOct 19 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "There is one bird in my house"Oct 19 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OpenCarData - http://bit.ly/bxfL8g "collects, stores & disseminates Real-World OBD (On Board Diagnostics) auto data" (via @linuxmagazin)Oct 19 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer in other words, yes, if you imply open standards as in FSFE def. (incl. no running royalties forever)Oct 19 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] 50% of people are less nice than averageOct 19 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Evernote Raises $20M To Become A “Global Platform For Human Memory” - http://tcrn.ch/9COb4h a *proprietary* platform for human memory?Oct 19 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahahahahahaha! @jezra will love the thing I just did for the show notes of his episode of !LO. :DOct 19 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Welcome to http://osg33x.blogspot.com, the new ML2MST blog: http://ur1.ca/241ht Doh! :-)Oct 19 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prosecutor Takes Down Torrent Site, Industry Group Sets Terms For Truce - http://bit.ly/90TyWX wonder what will happen #moldovaOct 19 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] modem speeds again! 11K/s #cripplenetOct 19 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh Anything to add on the actual point I was raising? Do you think it's invalid?Oct 19 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @openbytes They at least have the decency to have written their whole OS from scratch... ;)Oct 19 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I have a free day off. Planned to help "Julian" with his new study (Linux/Network admin), but the Belgian Waffle is not online yet :-(Oct 19 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh To be honest I really don't care, remember when I joked about it being unstable? You tore into me for criticizing for the sake of it.Oct 19 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] #HTML5 is a collection of incoherent specs cherry picked from browsers & WHATWG… a hodge–podge. Is it good? yes. Could it be better? yes.Oct 19 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh You seem to be asking for it. You were the one commenting on my dent. If you think I'm an idiot, why don't you just ignore me?Oct 19 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Citizen and government collaboration: let's work it out. Join us online or at #goscon. http://bit.ly/aIR16L #forgegovOct 19 13:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TweetDeck Founder To Steve Jobs: Developing For Fragmented Android Isn't Bad - http://read.bi/cjivrl /via @brendanquinn @monkchips @hblodgetOct 19 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Don't get all overemotional, just saying that if you like an argument, at least be consistent :)Oct 19 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh I don't understand. I liked Ubuntu at some point, now a lot of their actions piss me off. People change, Ubuntu did too.Oct 19 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh How the hell is that inconsistent. Also, if you think that was "overemotional" you better batten down the hatches....Oct 19 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @schestowitz: “OMGUbuntu Makes a Dig at Mono?” http://ur1.ca/241e9 OMGUbuntu on #Clementine #ubuntu #suse #opensuseOct 19 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, my reading of #Fedora "CLA" is: contributor can pick either MIT license or license of the project they're contributing to. Right?Oct 19 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh We agree on Ubuntu changing, that's a good start. After you criticized my view, you started posting the same stuff. But no problem :)Oct 19 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh I have no idea what you are talking about, to be honest. I can't really keep track of any convo on here.Oct 19 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh How about we cut the meta crap and start discussing the actual issues at hand?Oct 19 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh for some reason Monty Python's "Argument" sketch comes to mind "I came here for an argument" - "this is abuse" - "so sorry" lolOct 19 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh I joked about Ubuntu being unstable, you jumped on my case and it pissed me off. Then you start criticizing Ubuntu for indicator crapOct 19 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Well..... ;)Oct 19 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh When was that? I can't remember defending Ubuntu recently... ;)Oct 19 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Zola Jesus's photo negative style switcheroo is still classic goth, e.g. Eldritch in the Dominion video. Destiny, escape, can't.Oct 19 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @jwildeboer RF is only preferred if it means "restriction free". Focus on royalties distracts from the real liberty issues.Oct 19 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think I might just have secured a review copy of Fallout New Vegas for !LO. :)Oct 19 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Why Don't They [Microsoft] Just *Pay* People to Use Their Mobiles?” http://ur1.ca/241pa Microsoft marketing expenses are madOct 19 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh You posted a word, synonym for "opposite" or something, and I said "Ubuntu + Stability"= this word, as a joke, and you attacked. :)Oct 19 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @gregoryheller: CivicActions Blog: #CiviCRM Duplicate Matching Threshold Configuration Tips: CiviCRM offers a fu... http://bit.ly/bvH0PPOct 19 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh Can we get over that? I clearly can't remember...Oct 19 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Any way, no problem, i don't think you're an idiot, just wanted to point out why i commented :)Oct 19 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @piykumar i missed it, i was not aware for it. nobody shared info with me :( very sad. http://bit.ly/bLRZaWOct 19 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Of course. :) Just don't ever attack me again or i'll say nasty things about Fedora :-POct 19 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @snarf: How to Maximize the Battery Life on Your Linux Laptop is.gd/g87zUOct 19 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Sir Alex: "Rooney's agent has intimated he won't sign a contract and he wants away. It's a shock. !mufc Well thats that !Oct 19 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @webmink you have made the right point.Oct 19 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #BSA Lobbying Against Standards in Europe is Old News http://ur1.ca/2416e BSA actually started this years agoOct 19 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Awesome! :D http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/10/hiding_in_plain.htmlOct 19 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the prob for !MUFC if Rooney goes, is that the money will go straight into debts, there won't be a replacement to paper over the cracksOct 19 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @joshbressers It's a story not told from us very often. We have a great team of engineers, QE, and security working together | #RHT #FTWOct 19 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @linuxmagNL: Steve Jobs hakt in op Android: http://bit.ly/d8oSbh !FUDOct 19 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware faces a rocky 2011, but will VDI & Cloud help buoy the company? (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/cOgSLGOct 19 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh "equittable estoppel" That was it!! :D Anyway, back to serious stuff, how's the game server coming on? Usable by the weekend?Oct 19 14:43
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amarsh04schestowitz, just caught up with your question, downloading the GetUp! Election 2010 spoof trailer nowOct 19 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] most big names SAF let go, he felt their best yrs were behind them, Rooney is the opposite, he won't want to face Rooney in EuropeOct 19 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] !fellowship election http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/?p=674 for !fsfe 's general assembly will take place from 1st to 28th February 2011Oct 19 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Steve Jobs: Open does not always win (SAI): http://read.bi/d3wcJ3Oct 19 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] TweetDeck Founder: Developing For Fragmented Android Isn't Bad (SAI): http://read.bi/ceDqMSOct 19 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @fsfe: Get elected http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/?p=674 for !fsfe 's general assembly !fs !gnuOct 19 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What did Ozzie do at Microsoft? (ITWriting): ITWriting http://bit.ly/a9m77wOct 19 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh Are you talking about Minecraft? :)Oct 19 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Might be..... :) How's it coming along?, i'd love to have a go on it at the weekend. I've finally got some freetime.Oct 19 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Human Rights Require Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/2421q #ngo #gratis #libre #pr #activism #deception #lockinOct 19 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh is that what the Land Mine Disposal people call their skill Minecraft?Oct 19 14:58
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schestowitzamarsh04: why download and not stream/Oct 19 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb LOL!Oct 19 14:59
amarsh04I can connect to the fast pc and download quicker than switching cables and keyboad/mouse around to use the fast pc in a guiOct 19 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple may be more afraid of Linux than it is of MicrosoftOct 19 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] can I define an management class for dsmc to backup in to from the commandline !TSM !Linux ?Oct 19 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @thistleweb you need to join http://identi.ca/group/mufc for the group tag to work :)Oct 19 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Remember: Linux Outlaws Live tonight at 18:00 UTC 19:00 BST 20:00 CEST. Come drop on by, Fab will review Minecraft. http://ur1.ca/218thOct 19 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Incidentally, would I have to edit the java launcher to create an account on your server directly? In stead of http://ur1.ca/2423nOct 19 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I love how people like Mike Galbraith continually chase BFS features and performance, and usually get it wrong http://ur1.ca/24240 !linuxOct 19 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh Yes, SJobs' reaction shows fear, it's good. http://ur1.ca/240y8Oct 19 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Bleach 293 !animeOct 19 15:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @royhugo Hey, Advocacy groups and NGOs you DON'T need Microsoft Free licenses, you have Free Software that gives you FREEDOM!Oct 19 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh Dunno. Can you log into the IRC? :)Oct 19 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @schestowitz it's just machine translation: easy for someone else to do if they wishOct 19 15:11
oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/how-open-source-advocates-beat-themselves/7565  Interesting.  schestowitzOct 19 15:11
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oiaohmWhy now the interest who is funding open source advocatesOct 19 15:12
oiaohmMicrosoft for years have hidden there interests.Oct 19 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @gotunandan for some reason I never thought to join the ManUtd group, it's sorted now ty.Oct 19 15:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh Ha ha, touché :D By the way, that was a freenode problem, not mine. I stayed logged in to !rr funnily enough :)Oct 19 15:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Gould: Oracle to Red Hat: It's Not Your Father's Linux Market Anymore http://lwn.net/Articles/410534/rssOct 19 15:21
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Diablo-D3my father ran linux?Oct 19 15:21
Diablo-D3who is oracle pitching to here, 4 year olds?Oct 19 15:22
schestowitzDana is just echoing theOct 19 15:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ratholeradio: New Rathole Radio out now with guest @jonobacon chatting and a live acoustic track from @methoddan - http://is.gd/g8cxdOct 19 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Meh. Too complicated and finnicky. My money is on StatusNet...Oct 19 15:23
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schestowitzI was gonna say he echoes the mobbyistsOct 19 15:23
schestowitzNow he does the "funded by IBM" thingOct 19 15:23
schestowitzTalking for the mobbyistOct 19 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Human Rights Require Software Freedom http://ur1.ca/2421q #ngo #gratis #libre #pr #activism #deception #lockinOct 19 15:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Editing text records on DNS is. StatusNet is a one-click install almost these days....Oct 19 15:29
schestowitz[09:54] <MinceR> apparently "making money" == "selling nonfree licenses"Oct 19 15:32
schestowitz[09:55] <MinceR> in novell2.0 land, that isOct 19 15:32
schestowitzCOmmercial vs proprietaryOct 19 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] NPR just uncritically used the descriptor "area man" in a story blurb. #theonionOct 19 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] No more 'spiking' and 'killing' in our kinder, gentler newsroom (WaPo): http://wapo.st/bXohh2Oct 19 15:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Version 2.1 of the openSUSE build service http://lwn.net/Articles/410540/rssOct 19 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @pmctechblog You might remember a couple years back Microsoft also showing they were more concerned about linux than Mac OS.Oct 19 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana I'm #disturbed by claims that #RAND is compatible with !FS. It is NOT, by&large, it's against Freedom # 2. #mobbyists #liesOct 19 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] ""You're a dialup connection; I'm a gigabit LAN. I last a mythical man-month, you a one-minute man"" !q Monzy : Kill -9 #nerdcoreOct 19 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater Microsoft: 0.006% of their customers see Java exploits http://ur1.ca/242dx #fud !JAVAOct 19 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There is a thriving indsutry in the US of liars for hire http://www.prwatch.org/node/9531 Growth area for #Microsoft ?Oct 19 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: I'm #disturbed by claims that #RAND is compatible with !FS. It is NOT, by&large, it's against Freedom # 2. | #FRAND tooOct 19 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater can’t say I see an ‘unprecedented wave’. data provided is lacking- no historic only current snapshot, graphs poor...Oct 19 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Debian welcomes non-packaging contributors http://lwn.net/Articles/410542/rssOct 19 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Java must be doing well. Microsoft keeps pulling its braids right now...Oct 19 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Actually, that graph reminded me kindergarten children sketching books... :-DOct 19 15:48
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schestowitzcubevector: the log cron job is not running, I thinkOct 19 15:49
schestowitzI've tried getting access to the logs so that I can post the 17th'sOct 19 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink @jwildeboer Not so much FUD as spinning the deficiencies of the update mechanism so they can slope the blame away. !JAVA #FUDOct 19 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith trueOct 19 15:51
schestowitz[11:00] <gnufreex> Nut Jobs is at it again http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8072542/Google-Android-isnt-really-that-open-says-Steve-Jobs.htmlOct 19 15:52
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schestowitzBlows is also NUT JOBS?Oct 19 15:53
Diablo-D3suck on my left nut and make the right one jealous?Oct 19 15:53
schestowitzWill it get red from jealousy?Oct 19 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: 22 page installation guide of SchoolOS http://www.scribd.com/doc/39644328/Installation-Guide http://bit.ly/9mUX14Oct 19 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Ladies and Gentlemen, start your dinner parties. It's Glasser!Oct 19 15:56
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:TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh @fabsh Lot of Ubuntu criticism lately fabs, you defend it when somebody else criticises. > tough love, vigilance
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:TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[phoronix/@phoronix] MythTV 0.24 RC1 Released, Brings Many Features: In May once MythTV 0.23 was released we reported on some of the ea... http://bit.ly/9FxhvE
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Jobs using "open" as in "open computing": http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/oct/19/jobs-transcript-tablets-ipad-iphone-androidOct 19 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Where the hell did this downpour come from? Only just missed that.Oct 19 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] How do I get wordpress.org plugins to run on my #wordpress.com blog? #tinyfeedOct 19 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just listening to Yasuko Agawa's L.A. Nights - I love that track (I still listen to obscure soul music long after it was fashionable)Oct 19 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] What is CC doing for #OpenAccess Week? Events we're involved in around the world: http://bit.ly/bOYKdA #OAW2010Oct 19 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple iPad sales fail to hit forecasts http://ur1.ca/242ua maybe all the rich niche bought oneOct 19 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why don't the !BBC cut back all the "commercial mainstream entertainment" and do "public service broadcasting" instead? http://bit.ly/cLnKyjOct 19 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i'm a little shocked at how poorly os x appears to handle sftp. any recommends on a good sftp/webdav client for OS X? (not for me!)Oct 19 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Join @ccsverige (CC Sweden) at http://fscons.org Nov 5-7, Sweden, and discuss the future of free culture, free software, and free society!Oct 19 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] APPLE = Advertise, Pay, Pay Lots, ElitismOct 19 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Android sends Steve Jobs over the edge, Andy Rubin responds in code http://bit.ly/c5vETl #android #appleOct 19 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin won't Konqueror run on OS 10?Oct 19 16:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSCONS 2010 | fscons.org .::. Size~: 24.96 KBOct 19 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: What is CC doing for #OpenAccess Week? Events we're involved in around the world: http://bit.ly/bOYKdA #OAW2010Oct 19 16:39
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schestowitz"No wonder Nut Jobs is speaking badly about !Linux right now. Who would pay x3 as much for a tablet to have /more/ DRM?"Oct 19 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @kurund: Countdown for #CiviCRM v3.3 first alpha release begins... 8 open issues.. more on 3.3 - http://bit.ly/9qVM87 #drupal #joomlaOct 19 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CiviCRM v3.3 highlights and update  | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 17.81 KBOct 19 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Jobs lashes out at Android, RIM, tablets (Macworld) http://bit.ly/98djeEOct 19 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Join @ccsverige at fscons.org Nov 5-7, Sweden, & discuss the future of free culture, free software, & free society!Oct 19 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ozzie Microsoft Exit Fuels Concern Over Ballmer Bench (BusinessWeek) http://bit.ly/bzRqEJOct 19 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Awesome idea! Me want too! :DOct 19 16:51
schestowitzhttp://www.insidesocal.com/click/2010/10/my-ipod-plays-oggs.htmlOct 19 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana 7'' is a good size for eye sight, it's the reason I bought a SmartQ7 (and now a Smart V7) rather than the 5'' versions. 150€+-Oct 19 16:54
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pookitois anyone here yet?Oct 19 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Presidents and Senior/Vice Presidents quit Microsoft in droves http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Major_DepartureOct 19 16:56
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sebsebsebpookito: yesOct 19 16:56
schestowitzHeyOct 19 16:56
pookitohiOct 19 16:56
pookitowhat is up schestowitz?  :DOct 19 16:56
sebsebsebHelloOct 19 16:56
pookitowell, I was thinking about Jomsocial?Oct 19 16:56
schestowitzIt's all greatOct 19 16:56
pookitohave you heard of that?Oct 19 16:57
schestowitzOur side is winning basicallyOct 19 16:57
schestowitzNot heard of it, pookitoOct 19 16:57
schestowitzBTW>>Oct 19 16:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: our side?Oct 19 16:57
schestowitzWhat's this dog in your avatar?Oct 19 16:57
schestowitzYours?Oct 19 16:57
pookitoyepOct 19 16:57
pookito:DOct 19 16:57
schestowitzCuteOct 19 16:57
pookitothanksOct 19 16:57
pookitoher name is Foxy.Oct 19 16:57
amarsh04back in a few, trying new kernel...Oct 19 16:57
schestowitzFirefoxy?Oct 19 16:58
pookitothat would have been better.Oct 19 16:58
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sebsebsebschestowitz: avater where?Oct 19 16:58
schestowitzidenticaOct 19 16:58
pookitowell, Jomsocial is an alternative of facebookOct 19 16:58
sebsebsebschestowitz: ohOct 19 16:58
pookitoopensource that isOct 19 16:58
schestowitzpookito: sebsebseb is afraid of identica :-)Oct 19 16:59
pookitowhyOct 19 16:59
pookito?Oct 19 16:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: no not quiteOct 19 16:59
schestowitzAnd someone stole his account there !! >:Oct 19 16:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: right, butOct 19 16:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: have a lookOct 19 16:59
pookitowell, did you put a strong password?Oct 19 16:59
schestowitzHe just didn't reserve his nickOct 19 16:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: I have that nick now :)Oct 19 17:00
sebsebseband thats been a while nowOct 19 17:00
schestowitzSo some troll who reads IRC took itOct 19 17:00
pookitololOct 19 17:00
pookitoBut that can happen anywhere else, right?Oct 19 17:00
pookitoit is not identica.Oct 19 17:01
sebsebsebpookito: its not been a problem for just over a week now :)Oct 19 17:01
sebsebsebor however long its been nowOct 19 17:01
pookitoso I guess you do not know if the software is federated, right?Oct 19 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How The RIAA Took My Vintage Mustang (Jalopnik): http://bit.ly/9Vtw3UOct 19 17:03
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*sebsebseb when will I start using identica hmmOct 19 17:03
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sebsebsebaccount isn't a problem anymoreOct 19 17:03
pookitoWhen it comes to identica, I am just waiting for them to implement private profilesOct 19 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Allied Forces Used Tank Serial Numbers To Defeat The Germans (jalopnik): http://bit.ly/diaWr2Oct 19 17:04
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sebsebsebpookito: oh?Oct 19 17:05
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/conscioususer/statuses/27831895972 " @omgubuntu: For people to actually take time to interpret what you say... That's true fame, mister. http://is.gd/g8813 http://is.gd/g882n  "Oct 19 17:07
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*MinceR prefers to ignore omgubuntuOct 19 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] openSUSE Build Service 2.1 Brings Web UI Improvements: Tomorrow the openSUSE Conference is beginning in the always... http://bit.ly/akxhuiOct 19 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Negotiating a vulnerability test is like offering your wife to a stranger to see if she accepts his proffers, ie, against nature ;-)Oct 19 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana exactly. We (FSFE) are rebutting BSA wanting all RAND acceptable. Not arguing "#swpats MIGHT be compatible w/ FOSS"Oct 19 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ken VanDine: !Gwibber and #Facebook, call for help! http://goo.gl/rODr !ubuntuOct 19 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ml2mst Welcome to http://osg33x.blogspot.com, the new ML2MST blog: http://ur1.ca/241ht Doh! :-)Oct 19 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst pls alert about blog updates in identi.ca so they we can pick them up via IRCOct 19 17:21
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schestowitzHi, leeOct 19 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody OpenCarData - http://bit.ly/bxfL8g "collects, stores & disseminates Real-World OBD (On Board Diagnostics) auto data"Oct 19 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @bruce89 RE "50% of people are less nice than average" > only if you assume normal distributionOct 19 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @mgeist Bloc MP seek hearings on !ACTA, want disclosure to Heritage Committee of Canadian positions at talks http://ur1.ca/2439m !BillC32Oct 19 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Permanent Artificial Respiration': France Buys Its Citizens 210k News Subs - http://bit.ly/dejdq6 may as well nationalise the lot #franceOct 19 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @JesperBrouer Collecting Netfilter Workshop #nfws2010 presentations: http://bit.ly/bzUHhbOct 19 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @schestowitz I was going by BBC rule, so I assume that's the caseOct 19 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @mgeist Bloc MP seek hearings on !ACTA, want disclosure to Heritage Committee of Canadian positions at talks http://ur1.ca/2439m !BillC32Oct 19 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] .Net job board Proagora adopts OData feeds for (DotNetSlackers): http://bit.ly/92ECcNOct 19 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] .Net job board Proagora adopts OData feeds for (DotNetSlackers): http://bit.ly/92ECcNOct 19 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet to Surpass 2 Billion Users This Year - http://on.mash.to/aKzeQI still only 30% #net #accessOct 19 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Goldman #Sachs downgrades #Microsoft, faults mobile, suggests carving up company http://is.gd/g8no0Oct 19 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Is/Was Eric the King spot on ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4692266.stm !mufcOct 19 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] http://lwn.net/Articles/410542/rss - What I wanna know is who were the 14 assholes who voted against? Oo !loOct 19 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Dave in opposition said "The army are under-equipped", so he cuts it when in office. He is a politician after allOct 19 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @rsandu #Goldman #Sachs downgrades #Microsoft, faults mobile, suggests carving up company http://is.gd/g8no0Oct 19 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Presidents and Senior/Vice Presidents quit Microsoft in droves http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Major_De ...Oct 19 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz No wonder Nut Jobs is speaking badly about !Linux right now. Who would pay x3 as much for a tablet to have /more/ DRM?Oct 19 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz APPLE = Advertise, Pay, Pay Lots, ElitismOct 19 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Apple nuts, the "applies", they would pay.Oct 19 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Apple iPad sales fail to hit forecasts http://ur1.ca/242ua maybe all the rich niche bought oneOct 19 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I look forward to the Falklands War v2 with worryOct 19 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] BREAKING NEWS: Some git wants to leave some other bunch of gits to join a different bunch of gitsOct 19 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @MakedaTaylor Artist Revenue Opportunities Without Playing Live http://ur1.ca/243s9Oct 19 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @MakedaTaylor 10 Things Bands Can Do to Book More Live Shows http://ur1.ca/243txOct 19 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware to offer cloud development environment (InfoWorld) http://bit.ly/d4vHKtOct 19 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] Another #fedora design team bounty winner! http://ur1.ca/243x7 watch for the next bounty sometime in the next few days... :) !fedoradesignOct 19 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World of giving - http://bit.ly/bAG3D8 "A "gift" risks becoming the implementation of the giver's own politics." #givingOct 19 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Three tragic flaws of some well-meaning dashboards (GCN): http://bit.ly/avPZnrOct 19 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Tommy Sheridan : A very social socialist #I'mFedUpOfHearingOfThisGitOnTheNewsOct 19 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Tommy Sheridan : A very social socialist #ImFedUpOfHearingOfThisGitOnTheNewsOct 19 18:44
schestowitzcubevector: are you around?Oct 19 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security advisories http://lwn.net/Articles/410566/rssOct 19 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Is Linux Desktop really dead ? http://bit.ly/alIXmVOct 19 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O Desktop Linux tá morto mesmo ? Será ? http://bit.ly/alIXmVOct 19 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Boosting !Ubuntu's Productivity: 20 Tips — Datamation.com http://ping.fm/b5A3dOct 19 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Large Hadron Collider | Linux Journal http://ping.fm/em4TdOct 19 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn contributor can pick any license; if meets guidelines, Fedora can in its discretion accept. If no explicit license, deemed to be MIT.Oct 19 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fontana for code; 'content' (I know @rms doesn't like that word) default license is CC-BY-SAOct 19 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Howto connect multiple networks over the Internet the cheap way | Robert Penz Blog http://ping.fm/6eqmXOct 19 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] FlashVideoReplacer - Use Native Video Playback Facilities On Sites Like Youtube | Linux Journal http://ping.fm/478X8Oct 19 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] There you go: "Viva Hernandez. Viva Hernandez. Call him Little Pea. He shits on Rooney. Viva Hernandez" !mufcOct 19 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Blog: Here comes 3.3 alpha: http://bit.ly/a4GEBu Highlights: http://bit.ly/9qVM87 Download: http://bit.ly/bMHgn3 #drupal #JoomlaOct 19 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Possibly the most spurious arguments I've ever seen collected together in one place http://ping.fm/gJnpSOct 19 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to set up a !Linux OpenVPN client | Linux and Open Source | TechRepublic.com http://ping.fm/RjD5hOct 19 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 55 !OpenSource Replacements for Popular Networking Tools — Datamation.com http://ping.fm/vcaFhOct 19 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Scary. Worse real estate mess ahead? http://ping.fm/FavjtOct 19 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Awesome !Ubuntu #Multitouch Demo in Dell #Tablet | Tech Drive-in http://ping.fm/fT2TcOct 19 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] The Linux Outlaws are live now with another show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/liveOct 19 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Stop Republicans from impeaching President Obama. http://bit.ly/9JJFbAOct 19 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Some think I confuse #Open_Core w/ #proprietary_relicensing. I don't actually;distinction just matters little. Blog at: http://ur1.ca/244dnOct 19 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: The Linux Outlaws are live now with another show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live !loOct 19 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @silner: 55 !OpenSource Replacements for Popular Networking Tools — Datamation.com http://ping.fm/vcaFhOct 19 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn Question about footnote 0: Are you saying that the #Artistic_License (v1) is a free software license? :-)Oct 19 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] NATO was formed to stop a war that never happened, but instead has started wars that should never have happenedOct 19 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Oracle wants LibreOffice members to leave OOo council (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/410597/rssOct 19 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New information from @NYT - US Pushes to Ease Technical Obstacles to #Wiretapping: https://eff.org/r.4tsOct 19 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I know for an absolute fact #Larry_Wall intended ArtisticV1 to be !FaiF. In practice, it probably is, since it's full of holes.Oct 19 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Can't believe nobody has the same problem as me on #EC2… http://is.gd/g8vq4Oct 19 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn maybe you can convince @fsf of that? That might help @spot with a few residually problematic #Perl packagesOct 19 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, it's one of these situations you often point to: we all know it should be !FaiF but it's impossible to say formally. Changing e.g.Oct 19 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I changed the example to use #jQuery's license, which is a much,much newer example but not muddied w/ nearly-Free Software licenseOct 19 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz Yeah, someone got into my Yahoo account. I've changed the password, so that should fix things. New PW is a doozey.Oct 19 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] An open app store is just a broken package manager...Oct 19 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn interesting; I assume you regard the #jQuery license as redundant (though non-problematic)Oct 19 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: New information from @NYT - US Pushes to Ease Technical Obstacles to #Wiretapping: https://eff.org/r.4tsOct 19 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, of course. #jQuery devs tell me they did it b/c GPL users had trouble understanding GPL compatibility. #Disturbing but that's why.Oct 19 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,that's mostly the goal of that blog: no one knows what #Open_Core is, but I hope I've shown whatever it is, it can't be good for usOct 19 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I ask because we discussed that issue back in 2007; you clearly disapproved of practice of e.g. GPLv2 | BSD3 dual-licenseOct 19 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I do disapprove of pointless disjunctions as a matter of elegance, but I didn't then contemplate #GPL compatibility'd baffle some.Oct 19 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think such disjunctions are #problematic because they cast doubt on widely-held understandings about the licenses in questionOct 19 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Oh !Canada post: "Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble… G8/G20" http://ur1.ca/244n6 #PoliticalPrisoner #freeByron #demreform #libertyOct 19 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Caveat emptor: Custom Android handsets all the rage in Germany http://ur1.ca/2447sOct 19 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] TweetDeck CEO continues backlash against Jobs http://ur1.ca/241hhOct 19 20:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] For those who missed it: Tomorrow 20:30 #iRail meetup (for anyone interested in iRail) in Ghent - http://is.gd/g8xMTOct 19 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Madrid fans: "Milan, Milan, vaffanculo". How kind of them to insult in Italian...Oct 19 20:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] For those who missed it(2): Ask us any question on #iRail here: http://www.formspring.me/iRail - Really anything & anonymouslyOct 19 20:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Bolsa família faz mal para o pensamento, já dizia nosso presidente http://youtu.be/-H4552LKIe0Oct 19 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Kinda disappointed at app tabs, I could've sworn they blinked or w/e when the page updated.....Oct 19 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] it's okay. someone on the internet is wrong. it's their problem, don't worry about it.Oct 19 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ohh, ele não engana mais ninguém, nem as crianças acreditam mais nele http://youtu.be/7eLD3om-jh0Oct 19 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Noticed: @VincentVQ added «still» to the word «demissionary» on his twitter bioOct 19 20:25
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_GoblinEvening allOct 19 20:28
MinceRhayOct 19 20:28
_Goblin:)Oct 19 20:28
_Goblinbefore I go any further, some advice.........Oct 19 20:29
_Goblinstay away from fast food joints in Hendon.......have been really suffering these past few days.....damn cheap grub....Oct 19 20:30
MinceRhttp://www.fsdaily.com/Community/PayPal_attacks_free_software_donationsOct 19 20:37
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pookitoHow can paypal attack free software donations?Oct 19 20:42
MinceRthe article explainsOct 19 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/10/2010: !GNU !Linux in Large Hadron Collider, Edubuntu Promotion http://techrights.org/2010/10/19/edubuntu-promotion/Oct 19 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mapopa: #IE9 is the #IE6 of #CSS3: http://t.co/KhcIExC via proddit http://t.co/8f4rhBLOct 19 20:43
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_Goblinmincer: Yeah I read that one....Oct 19 20:44
pookitoWhere is the article?Oct 19 20:45
MinceR213614 < MinceR> http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/PayPal_attacks_free_software_donationsOct 19 20:45
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MinceRsee also "full story" linkOct 19 20:45
pookitoThanks I just clicked it. :DOct 19 20:46
MinceR:>Oct 19 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @quaid: New blog post: Looking for writers for Teaching Open Source textbook http://bit.ly/cCiSOYOct 19 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mohanpram TweetDeck CEO continues backlash against Jobs http://ur1.ca/241hhOct 19 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to Severed Fifth - Nightmares by design http://www.severedfifth.com/ #severedfith #metalOct 19 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mohanpram Caveat emptor: Custom Android handsets all the rage in Germany http://ur1.ca/2447sOct 19 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @dkd903 First Release Candidate Of Linux Mint 10 “Julia” Is Here - http://digitizor.com/?p=8639 !ubuntuOct 19 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nitro "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." _Richar ...Oct 19 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @tux2 Wallpapers Clocks Are Incredible, Install Wallpaper Clocks in !Ubuntu Maverick Easily http://ur1.ca/2448yOct 19 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @nitro “Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing.”—Dick BrandonOct 19 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Tom #Bosley dead at 83Oct 19 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @silner Awesome !Ubuntu #Multitouch Demo in Dell #Tablet | Tech Drive-in http://ping.fm/fT2TcOct 19 20:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openattitude Two Twitterati -- @anthonymarco & @jessebrown -- discuss the challenges of tech in the classroom, in !Canada & beyond. ...Oct 19 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @jaideep2588 Sure, great help , call me 9312166995, also come to workshop ! http://bit.ly/958FuROct 19 21:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] News: #Happy_Days Dad Tom Bosley dead at 83 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_tom_bosleyOct 19 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] It's a bad sign when you have to kick yourself from an IRC channelOct 19 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Why do I appear to be in Slagelse (DK) for my Android, when I am obviously not?Oct 19 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] English Heritage claim they own commercial photography rights on Stonehenge - http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/19/english-heritage-cla.htmlOct 19 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The gravy train rumbles on !BBC http://bbc.in/d3M88S I'm sure those losing their jobs will love paying a mandatory £145 commercial subOct 19 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Who does Maggie Shiels work for? !MS or the !BBC It's getting harder to tell http://bbc.in/bjZgwZOct 19 21:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] That has got to be a spoof.Oct 19 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] True to type - http://bit.ly/9ARi4T "DRM may actually push potential buyers into pirates' arms"; well, yes, actually #fonts #drmOct 19 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Excellent work on the new album from #severedfifth puts me in mind of....Metalica, Skidrow, "The The", Sugar..but better! Well done Jono!Oct 19 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Whilst I'm in a mood for some music.....here's a track that didn't get the coverage it deserved !rock !music http://tinyurl.com/259ef4rOct 19 21:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] and heres another one: Dogs of Lust - The The http://tinyurl.com/33udujn !music !rockOct 19 21:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Training: San Francisco User and Administrator Training - Nov 18, 2010 : http://bit.ly/c8tMSoOct 19 21:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody "DRM may actually push potential buyers into pirates' arms" would be why mandatory #DRM warnings are not included in !BillC32Oct 19 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Training: San Francisco Developer and Implementer Training - Thu, Nov 18, 2010 : http://bit.ly/atJF5uOct 19 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @civicrm CiviCRM Training: San Francisco User and Administrator Training - Nov 18, 2010 : http://bit.ly/c8tMSo !fsf !lpOct 19 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Symbian Imploding As Foundation Head Resigns - http://on.mash.to/98riEY oh dear... #symbianOct 19 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Code Sprint: CiviCRM Code and Test Sprint San Francisco - Nov 19 - Nov 21, 2010. Pitch in to improve Civi 4.0: http://bit.ly/bkdKhaOct 19 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. ~ unknown !q (via @eightyeight)Oct 19 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I really have to fix this mass-replying shit.Oct 19 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Web Apps - http://bit.ly/d4KdCX looks exactly the type of thing Mozilla should be doing to defend the #openweb #mozilla #appsOct 19 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] have bugreport all set. Really liking !debian so farOct 19 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Filmmaker Schools Pirates On Correct Way To Rip His DVD http://tinyurl.com/3anvwz4 - What a decent chap, consider supporting his work!Oct 19 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Oldsters beat twentysomethings at social networking http://tinyurl.com/3x2ka7f > Yep, we were computing long before they were born! !amigaOct 19 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stonewalling Stonehenge - http://bit.ly/90VqbC oh, congrats #EnglishHeritage, you get the official #Clueless Award of the day: grow upOct 19 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @mohanpram holding a grudge is letting someone live rent-free in your head. ~ unknown !q (via @eightyeight)Oct 19 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Sinclair ZX81 :-DOct 19 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Yep! I was there!Oct 19 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] [Montréal] présentation/discussions CiviCRM lors du DrupalCamp 23-24 octobre : http://bit.ly/995pvzOct 19 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Me 2 ;-DOct 19 21:58
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_GoblinAnyone read much of Dana Blankenhorns work?Oct 19 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Does “Open Core” Actually Differ from Proprietary Relicensing? - http://bit.ly/bXACmw more thoughts from Bradley M. Kuhn #opencoreOct 19 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ah, found out why I was seeing so much nofree in my repos, apparently contrib isn't equivalent to universe.Oct 19 22:05
_Goblingn mateOct 19 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Duffy on "Later" making a noise I can only describe as a cross between a voice and a kazoo.Oct 19 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] The Romeo Knight interview is a popular read on Openbytes, check out his work: www.romeoknight.net !demoscene !amiga !musicOct 19 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First-Sale Doctrine Under Fire - http://bit.ly/aPD869 not new, but: "People buy used because they can't afford the full price of something."Oct 19 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Awesome !Ubuntu Multitouch Demo in Dell Tablet http://ur1.ca/245pa !gnu !linux #dellOct 19 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Attorney General parrots BSA's nonsense about software piracy - http://bit.ly/aWU0AS debunked here: http://bit.ly/cB3KKB #bsa #piracyOct 19 22:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes Excellent work on the new album from #severedfifth puts me in mind of....Metalica, Skidrow, "The The", Sugar..but better!Oct 19 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Lawsuits Say Pharma Illegally Paid Doctors to Push Their Drugs - http://bit.ly/cHTEsx nice bit of sunlight #pharmaOct 19 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WE HAVE A ZOMBIE. Even though mosnters are off. WTF!? !minecraftOct 19 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Awesome !Ubuntu Multitouch Demo in Dell Tablet http://ur1.ca/245pa !gnu !linux #dellOct 19 22:32
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schestowitz[22:01] <_Goblin> Anyone read much of Dana Blankenhorns work?Oct 19 22:35
schestowitzHe's considered trollish in the FS communityOct 19 22:35
schestowitzMaybe less so in "open source"Oct 19 22:35
schestowitzHe is not pro-FOSSOct 19 22:35
schestowitzHe's just a pundit focusing on this area right nowOct 19 22:36
_Goblinyeah thats what I summarisedOct 19 22:37
schestowitzSee identicaOct 19 22:39
schestowitzSearch for his nameOct 19 22:39
hazzyhttp://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/The-Case-for-Apple-Buying-Facebook-5445Oct 19 22:40
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schestowitzAnd see how people respond with amazement if he writes something reasonableOct 19 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "If only we were 10, then we could form an equilateral triangle"Oct 19 22:40
schestowitzHis thing as of late has been acting as the mobbyists' sidekickOct 19 22:40
schestowitzCause it's contrarian and controversial to echo their provocative nonsenseOct 19 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Looking for writers for Teaching Open Source textbook - http://bit.ly/9FLj6w "We need writers, editors, reviewers, and researchers" #ossOct 19 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Amazied but not surprised: ppl take 140 chars of a dent,ignore thread & attack those chars as strawman. Wish identica supported plonk betterOct 19 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Civic Commons Needs an Executive Director - http://bit.ly/d89476 "there is no legal entity called Civic Commons. But there needs to be"Oct 19 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Oracle's OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 RC1 Makes It Out: While last month several OpenOffice.org members had left the free ... http://bit.ly/9ArtW2Oct 19 22:43
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schestowitz_Goblin: jono's band has clips in YouTubeOct 19 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'd have thought "git clone git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git" would make more senseOct 19 22:45
_Goblinschestowitz: Thats two great albums he's got to his name now....Oct 19 22:45
_Goblinschestowitz: infact Ive been finding more and more that Im listening to new CC music.....Oct 19 22:46
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAWAyJd9xD4Oct 19 22:46
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQllLph10LA&NR=1Oct 19 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Turkish LibreOffice mailing lists available: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#TurkishOct 19 22:47
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Viper550'm working on a proof of concept that we could easily make a openoffice killer for word processing WITHOUT a need for a special formatOct 19 22:48
_Goblinschestowitz: he's very much a Sepultura/Metallica style.....its strange seeing him in a metal scene....a bit of a departure from Canonical!Oct 19 22:48
_Goblinschestowitz: the question is now.....Is Jono rocking in KDE or Gnome? ;)Oct 19 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, unfortunately, first thing coming to mind re: #Bosley 's death was an off-color joke which'd surely get redented but I won't make.Oct 19 22:50
schestowitz_Goblin: roGkINGOct 19 22:51
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_Goblinschestowitz: :)Oct 19 22:51
_Goblinschestowitz: my favourite Jono track to date is Beating Heart from his last album..Oct 19 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @docufoundation Turkish LibreOffice mailing lists available: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#TurkishOct 19 22:52
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schestowitz_Goblin: let him know..Oct 19 22:52
_Goblinschestowitz: I wonder what Canonical makes of his alter (Metal) ego!Oct 19 22:52
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schestowitzNostalgia..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlQeNFaZKIOct 19 22:52
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schestowitz_Goblin: he's community managerOct 19 22:53
schestowitzIt's not a suit jobOct 19 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Norwegian LibreOffice mailing lists available: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#NorwegianOct 19 22:53
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_Goblinschestowitz: heres what I believe influenced that track of Jono's on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQ8mu0Nbm0Oct 19 22:54
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_Goblinschestowitz: and I can't beleive you mentioned the offspring.....they are the Mono of the Metal world!Oct 19 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Most of the spam I get these days is self-inflicted: From department stores, ticketing services, 1/2 marathon promotions, PayPal, eBay...Oct 19 22:55
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hazzyWtfOct 19 23:06
hazzyThe Mono of the metal world?Oct 19 23:06
hazzyThe Offspring rocksOct 19 23:06
Diablo-D3wait, what?Oct 19 23:06
hazzy< _Goblin> schestowitz: and I can't beleive you mentioned the  offspring.....they are the Mono of the Metal world!Oct 19 23:06
Diablo-D3they're bad, but not THAT badOct 19 23:06
Diablo-D3and, uh, since when was the offspring metal?Oct 19 23:06
hazzyMeh, I dunno eitherOct 19 23:07
_GoblinDiablo-D3: I assumed since Roy brought them up into a metal conversation they were considered Metal by some....Oct 19 23:07
Diablo-D3fuck noOct 19 23:07
_GoblinDiablo-D3: and diablo.....they are that badOct 19 23:07
Diablo-D3its 90s MTV rockOct 19 23:07
_GoblinDiablo-D3: very badOct 19 23:07
_Goblinthats what I meanOct 19 23:07
_Goblindo we need to say anymore?Oct 19 23:08
Diablo-D3its not bad, its just bland.Oct 19 23:08
_GoblinI think we will agree to differ.Oct 19 23:08
_GoblinSuffice to say......to quote a famous man...Oct 19 23:08
Diablo-D3its not nigger rap, _Goblin.Oct 19 23:08
Diablo-D3THATS the mono of musicOct 19 23:08
hazzyOk, I can agree with Diablo-D3Oct 19 23:08
_Goblin"N" rap?  What a horrible word for a horrible insultOct 19 23:08
_GoblinI won't ask, because I don't think I'll like the answer.Oct 19 23:09
Diablo-D3of course it is, but it doesnt stop them from self-describing themselves as such.Oct 19 23:09
schestowitz[22:55] <_Goblin> schestowitz: and I can't beleive you mentioned the offspring.....they are the Mono of the Metal world!Oct 19 23:09
schestowitzExtinct tooOct 19 23:09
schestowitzI was in their concert in Manchester in 2000Oct 19 23:09
Diablo-D3music that hates itself racistly, I find that somewhat amusing.Oct 19 23:09
_Goblinschestowitz: thats not something I'd advertise! ;)Oct 19 23:10
schestowitzMy friends went thereOct 19 23:10
schestowitzI was dragged along so to speakOct 19 23:10
schestowitzI was never a fan of themOct 19 23:10
_Goblinschestowitz: Ah....that old chestnut! ;)Oct 19 23:10
schestowitzI hardly know their songs except this oneOct 19 23:11
schestowitzMy brother played it recently, which reminded me of itOct 19 23:11
_GoblinIts like Green Day....one hit wonders!Oct 19 23:11
schestowitzGreen Day has more than one hitOct 19 23:11
schestowitzBut only Basket Case was massiveOct 19 23:12
_Goblin"little pig" is the only one that hit the mainstream...Oct 19 23:12
_Goblinthat I ever heardOct 19 23:12
schestowitzReminds me of Hey There DelilahOct 19 23:12
Ender2070Green Jelly ?Oct 19 23:12
_Goblinwas it jelly?Oct 19 23:12
schestowitzThere's this guy who trolls Wheezer [spelling]Oct 19 23:12
_GoblinI thought it was dayOct 19 23:12
Ender2070yesOct 19 23:12
schestowitzCause they make crap albumsOct 19 23:12
Ender2070Green Jelly made Little PigsOct 19 23:12
_Goblinah...Oct 19 23:12
Ender2070and maximum carnageOct 19 23:12
schestowitzWhen not making stupid  voicesOct 19 23:12
schestowitzI didn't know they were still around at allOct 19 23:13
_GoblinICP is about as mainstream as I get.....Oct 19 23:13
Ender2070lol ICOOct 19 23:13
schestowitzSomeone raises money for them to STOP making albumsOct 19 23:13
Ender2070ICPOct 19 23:13
Ender2070those guys are tools imoOct 19 23:13
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_Goblinand thats only because of their WWE connection in the "oddities"Oct 19 23:13
Ender2070they go on about their jokers cards and the dark carnivalOct 19 23:13
Ender2070then, in the last album they confess to being christianOct 19 23:13
_Goblinthey did a damn good cover of Slim Shady though.Oct 19 23:14
Ender2070making fun of himOct 19 23:14
Ender2070yesOct 19 23:14
_GoblinyepOct 19 23:14
Ender2070slim anusOct 19 23:14
Ender2070they did another one tooOct 19 23:14
Ender2070Ain't Nothing but a BitchassOct 19 23:14
Diablo-D3ICP is fucking hilariousOct 19 23:14
Diablo-D3DURR HURR GOD IS EVERYWHERE, IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLEOct 19 23:15
Diablo-D3mc hawking said it bestOct 19 23:15
Diablo-D3FUCK THE CREATIONISTSOct 19 23:15
Ender2070lolOct 19 23:15
Ender2070you think they are badOct 19 23:16
Diablo-D3I think they're fucking hilariousOct 19 23:16
Ender2070what about the people who still think the world is flatOct 19 23:16
Diablo-D3I mean, fucking magnets, how _do_ they work?!Oct 19 23:16
Ender2070"its a massive conspiracy! the lens makes it look round on the pictures!"Oct 19 23:17
*Diablo-D3 is, apparently, lying, and is getting shaggy pissedOct 19 23:19
Ender2070lol shaggyOct 19 23:19
Ender2070those guys were rapping about faygo soda and fat chicksOct 19 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] WHO PUT AN L NEXT TO LO! YER BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!! ROFL !minecraftOct 19 23:20
_Goblinheres a question that will maybe spark a little debate......Oct 19 23:22
_GoblinIs a company having control of its hardware such a bad thing? (I.e Mac)Oct 19 23:22
Ender2070yesOct 19 23:23
_Goblinthats one for yes....Oct 19 23:23
_GoblinDiablo?Oct 19 23:23
Ender2070price fixing for oneOct 19 23:23
_Goblinok...fair point, but in terms of development....Oct 19 23:23
Ender2070so many do it tooOct 19 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Some amazing things afoot in the !LO universe. And it ain't Minecraft. ;) You'll know soon.... :)Oct 19 23:23
_GoblinI was considering this the other day when I was assembling some of my old code with Devpac 2 through E-UAEOct 19 23:24
Ender2070it probably depends a little on the company tooOct 19 23:24
Diablo-D3[06:21:52] <_Goblin> Is a company having control of its hardware such a bad thing? (I.e Mac)Oct 19 23:24
Diablo-D3nno.Oct 19 23:24
_Goblinthe one thing about the Amiga is that you knew its custom chipset inside out......Oct 19 23:24
Diablo-D3Amiga.Oct 19 23:24
Diablo-D3bam!Oct 19 23:24
_GoblinI would love to go back to the Amiga days.....Oct 19 23:25
Ender2070Apple is a freedom sapping company and their hardware is purposely expensive because its exclusiveOct 19 23:25
Ender2070even with PC hardwareOct 19 23:25
Ender2070other vendors are differentOct 19 23:25
_GoblinEnder2070: but then consider Mac for a minute.......if I asked you to take appart your cars engine would you be able to do it?Oct 19 23:25
Ender2070I change my answer to 'it depends on the vendor'Oct 19 23:25
_GoblinEnder2070: If I asked you to make your own alternator would you be able to do that?Oct 19 23:26
Ender2070no but i dont know anything about carsOct 19 23:26
Ender2070im sure it would be wicked if you could build your own car from scratch, it would be funOct 19 23:26
_Goblinif a little dangerous....Oct 19 23:26
Ender2070lots of people would want to, it would be cheaper than going to the manufacturerOct 19 23:27
_GoblinIm not sure anymore....Oct 19 23:27
_Goblinbuilding your own PC in the UK can easily work out more than a pre-built one.Oct 19 23:27
Ender2070would you buy a car with the hood welded shutOct 19 23:27
Ender2070where only the dealership could open itOct 19 23:27
Ender2070monopoly on repairsOct 19 23:27
_Goblinas long as I knew that was the case before buying then it would be my choice.Oct 19 23:28
_Goblinif I was informed of that after purchase, id have a problem.Oct 19 23:28
cubevectorbtw did you ever get your windows refund _Goblin?Oct 19 23:28
Ender2070its that attitude that lets all sorts of bad things happen to good peopleOct 19 23:28
_Goblinyep.Oct 19 23:28
Ender2070you knowOct 19 23:28
cubevectoroh goodOct 19 23:28
Ender2070well, i know the government is poisoning us with flouride, but if people drink it - its their choiceOct 19 23:28
_Goblincubevector: yes.....although they want the pc back to check it.....I am doing an article when I get around.Oct 19 23:29
Ender2070dangerous thinkingOct 19 23:29
Ender2070gotta fight that kind of stuffOct 19 23:29
Ender2070look at facebookOct 19 23:29
cubevectorbah, hardly seems worth the troubleOct 19 23:29
_GoblinEnder2070: as long as they are aware of the danger and the choice.Oct 19 23:29
Ender2070everyone uses facebook and its your choice not to use itOct 19 23:29
_GoblinEnder2070: the government warns about smoking....people still do it.Oct 19 23:29
Ender2070but eventually, everyone else will be on it and you'll have no choice anymoreOct 19 23:29
_GoblinEnder2070: I don't use facebook and everyone I know (family and friends) is on it.Oct 19 23:30
cubevectorI guess they what you do prove your not using windows on itOct 19 23:30
cubevectoryou'reOct 19 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I hate my keyboardOct 19 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Am I still banned?Oct 19 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It looks like my temporary ban has been lifted but I'm very curious as to why it happened during a period when I wasn't actually posting?Oct 19 23:30
Ender2070yeah but i think later on if you dont use facebook you'll be disconnected from peopleOct 19 23:30
_Goblincubevector: The refund though is not a problem.  I am finding out how much that is, then I will forget it......I can write up how to get one, but Im not sending my machine away.Oct 19 23:30
Ender2070think about people who dont give a shit about computersOct 19 23:30
Ender2070or freedomOct 19 23:31
_GoblinEnder2070: I managed without a mobile phone until recently...I think I can cope without facebook.Oct 19 23:31
Ender2070im sure you canOct 19 23:31
hazzyEspecially since there are rumors of Apply buying FacebookOct 19 23:31
hazzyApple*Oct 19 23:31
hazzyAghOct 19 23:31
Ender2070apple wouldOct 19 23:31
_GoblinEnder2070: and to be fair, I'm not particularly interested what my work mates are up to....in my line of work I think they are idiots for being on there in the first place.Oct 19 23:31
Ender2070Apple wants to be the new Big BrotherOct 19 23:32
Ender2070I avoid facebook too and I prefer to live off the grid, yet in the future, people will think you're weirdOct 19 23:32
hazzyYepOct 19 23:32
hazzyI avoid it as wellOct 19 23:32
Ender2070you cite security, people will call you a nutter, citing tin foil hat recommendationsOct 19 23:32
_GoblinEnder2070: Im not sure if it does, they, just like any company want to make money.....a big brother effect would probably just be an added bonusOct 19 23:32
_GoblinEnder2070: as long as they make money, I don't think they particularly care how.Oct 19 23:33
Ender2070im staying the hell away from facebookOct 19 23:33
Ender2070the government uses it to track peopleOct 19 23:33
_GoblinEnder2070: No it doesntOct 19 23:33
Ender2070well mine and the USA's doesOct 19 23:33
_GoblinEnder2070: not the UK government anywayOct 19 23:33
Ender2070I know the CIA does, and I know the RCMP doOct 19 23:33
Ender2070the cops even have a forensics kit for the serviceOct 19 23:34
Ender2070not to mention the iphoneOct 19 23:34
Ender2070forensics heavenOct 19 23:34
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Ender2070that thing takes pictures of you when you're not awareOct 19 23:34
_GoblinEnder2070: I always say to people to consider that statement....Do you think serious criminals would not know that facebook would be of interest.....they could even put false information there to mislead law enforcement...Oct 19 23:34
_GoblinEnder2070: the only criminals who get caught on facebook are the small, truly stupid ones.Oct 19 23:35
Ender2070i'm sure MI6 has their hands in facebook tooOct 19 23:35
_GoblinEnder2070: the dangerous ones know far better.Oct 19 23:35
_GoblinEnder2070: worthless.Oct 19 23:35
Ender2070it would be stupid for them not toOct 19 23:35
_GoblinEnder2070: As with anything its not ruled out....as an itelligence tool its worthless.Oct 19 23:35
Ender2070the internet is a totalitiarian dictators dreamOct 19 23:35
Ender2070people just give away their personal informationOct 19 23:36
Ender2070the cops don't have to gather gossip anymoreOct 19 23:36
_GoblinEnder2070: Ever heard the term CHIS?Oct 19 23:36
Ender2070why is it worthless?Oct 19 23:36
Ender2070it has every friend of yours mapped outOct 19 23:36
Ender2070thats usefulOct 19 23:36
_GoblinEnder2070: because it can't be verified or trusted.Oct 19 23:36
_GoblinEnder2070: and the information on it can already be gained from established databases.Oct 19 23:37
Ender2070i think they use ancestry.com tooOct 19 23:37
Ender2070a nice database of everyones geneologyOct 19 23:37
Ender2070just there for the takingOct 19 23:37
WireWulfcake is a lieOct 19 23:37
_GoblinEnder2070: now talk about credit cards or bank cards.....thats differentOct 19 23:37
Ender2070they wouldn't just use facebookOct 19 23:37
Ender2070it would be one tool of many to verify stuffOct 19 23:37
_GoblinEnder2070: Facebook is often a way for people to exagerate their own lives...thats why its worthless.Oct 19 23:38
Ender2070say they already have a list of friends, they could check facebook to back it up with facts or vice versaOct 19 23:38
WireWulffacebook is full of liarsOct 19 23:38
_GoblinEnder2070: the one thing it can be used for is monitoring pre-planned protest/eventOct 19 23:38
Ender2070i didnt even think of thatOct 19 23:38
Ender2070its trueOct 19 23:38
_GoblinEnder2070: and possibly community tensions (real world)Oct 19 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ramifications for Steve Ballmer After Ray Ozzie Metaphorically Falls on His Sword http://ur1.ca/246qa #microsoftOct 19 23:38
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WireWulfinternet as a whole has more negitive info about you then you knowOct 19 23:38
Ender2070they have events and stuff on facebookOct 19 23:38
Ender2070they even know who would goOct 19 23:38
Ender2070but really, the internet is being used to build personality profiles on peopleOct 19 23:39
Ender2070even google said itOct 19 23:39
Ender2070they'll know what you want before you even know it yourselfOct 19 23:39
_GoblinEnder2070: personality profiles - very true.......and I expect employers now use it as a reference toolOct 19 23:40
Ender2070employers already do thats common knowledgeOct 19 23:40
Ender2070its a good idea to disable photo tagging because of itOct 19 23:40
Ender2070unfortunately even if you're not on facebook, there could be pictures of you there if your friends are on itOct 19 23:40
Ender2070brb rebootingOct 19 23:40
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_Goblinthats why I don't mention my surname....nor my occupation.....iOct 19 23:40
cubevectorbahOct 19 23:41
_GoblinmooOct 19 23:41
cubevectorI'm glad I'm self-employed :)Oct 19 23:42
_GoblinDid you check yourself out on Google before giving yourself the job? ;)Oct 19 23:42
cubevectorsome people I know are totally off the netOct 19 23:42
cubevector_Goblin, yeah I didOct 19 23:42
hazzyLol?Oct 19 23:42
hazzyWhoosh?Oct 19 23:42
_Goblincubevector: and you got the job! Well done!Oct 19 23:42
*cubevector shakes his own handOct 19 23:42
_Goblinthrowing a sickie might be a problem thoughOct 19 23:43
cubevectoryeahOct 19 23:43
cubevectorI've been good most of the last 10 years thoughOct 19 23:43
_Goblingood effort...give yourself a raise!Oct 19 23:43
cubevectorlolOct 19 23:44
_Goblinand another handshakeOct 19 23:44
_Goblin....Oct 19 23:44
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hazzyZomgOct 19 23:45
hazzyWhat a winning Mandriva setup I haveOct 19 23:46
_Goblinnot as winning as my Sabayon ;)Oct 19 23:46
Ender2070or my Fedora 14Oct 19 23:46
hazzyOh, so mine is in last place?Oct 19 23:47
hazzy:\Oct 19 23:47
Ender2070Mandriva.. yeahOct 19 23:47
hazzyHey!Oct 19 23:47
hazzyMandriva is awesomeOct 19 23:47
_Goblinok....in one sentence....."My distro is the best because.........."Oct 19 23:47
Ender2070you know they forked right?Oct 19 23:47
hazzyYupOct 19 23:47
_GoblinWell come on then.....one sentence why yours is the best....Oct 19 23:48
Ender2070My distro is the best because of yum presto (deltas), d programming, optional systemd, btrfs snapshots, GCC 4.5, KDE SC 4.5.2, and many other reasonsOct 19 23:48
_Goblinok....Oct 19 23:48
_GoblinHazzyOct 19 23:49
hazzyBecause it's uh...Oct 19 23:49
hazzyHmmOct 19 23:49
Viper550would a Chrome-like UI work on a word processor?Oct 19 23:49
WireWulfMandy is  few steps from deathOct 19 23:49
hazzyBecause it's a few steps from deathOct 19 23:50
hazzy!Oct 19 23:50
_GoblinMy distro is the best because its run by an Italian and Italians are always popular with the ladies....Sabayon, the distro to impress females with.Oct 19 23:50
WireWulfmy distro is not gr8 it just works on the minimalistt style <3 tinycore linuxOct 19 23:50
hazzyYou could say the same thing about French people :POct 19 23:51
_GoblinWell I think after falling asleep with Enders reason....and trying to find point with Hazzy's.....Im the winner! ;)Oct 19 23:51
hazzyMandriva is FrenchOct 19 23:51
_Goblinhazzy: no you couldnt.... ;)Oct 19 23:51
hazzyOk, you couldn'tOct 19 23:51
hazzy:SOct 19 23:51
_Goblintheres another little pointless conversation of mine......Oct 19 23:52
WireWulfGermans are hard asses and believe in shit working + nice style so I give you tooroxOct 19 23:52
_GoblinWireWulf: Good answer, but youre copying my idea...so #epicfail ;)Oct 19 23:52
_GoblinGermans make the best death metal music.Oct 19 23:52
WireWulf_Goblin: but you used sabayon not toorox :POct 19 23:53
_GoblinIve been a fan of their music for years.Oct 19 23:53
hazzyDutch make the best trance musicOct 19 23:53
hazzy:)Oct 19 23:53
_GoblinWireWulf: I had patented the concept of likening a distro to a race of people.....you can't use it otherwise you'll infringe!Oct 19 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Stop doing research into bloody baked beans and how they should be servedOct 19 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Ha ha, "without the blood"Oct 19 23:53
WireWulfand the frozen north wastelands of snow is where the best matel comes from :POct 19 23:53
hazzyMatel? Isn't that a toy company?Oct 19 23:54
_Goblinthats Offspring.Oct 19 23:54
cubevectorthat's Mattel :)Oct 19 23:54
WireWulf*metalOct 19 23:54
hazzyOh, rightOct 19 23:54
_GoblinOffspring is a Mattel band....Oct 19 23:54
_Goblineh diablo?Oct 19 23:54
WireWulfI am half brain dead atm long dayOct 19 23:54
_GoblinWirewulf.....you shouldn't use atm.......it has a whole different meaning in the UK....Oct 19 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @pookito: I was banned form posting to Identica for a while. @bugabundo helped me get back inOct 19 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 3dfx Voodoo graphic cards emulation coming to DOSBox http://ur1.ca/246tfOct 19 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @pookito: I found out was banned cos it actually said I was banned when I tried to postOct 19 23:55
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hazzyOhOct 19 23:55
hazzyYes it doesOct 19 23:55
WireWulf_Goblin: atm = one of two thingsOct 19 23:55
hazzyWowOct 19 23:55
WireWulfthe automatic teller mechines or at this momentOct 19 23:56
hazzyNope, neitherOct 19 23:56
_Goblinwirewulf: can I PM it to you?Oct 19 23:56
Ender2070Fedora 14 is going to be bombOct 19 23:56
WireWulfwhich i hate automatic tell mechinesOct 19 23:56
WireWulf_Goblin: I will se it but not say anythingOct 19 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @pookito: The difficult thing is finding out why - I have asked and it sounds like they will try to find out. I have to wait for thatOct 19 23:57
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WireWulf_Goblin: yeah I do not watch that sorta stuff but it has that meaning state side toOct 19 23:57
hazzy /ctcp <nick> <message>Oct 19 23:58
_GoblinWireWulf: I got the term from Clerks 2 filmOct 19 23:58
_GoblinWireWulf: never heard it before thenOct 19 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] "The nation's favourite cheese", you're telling me #crapadvertsOct 19 23:58
hazzyI uhOct 19 23:58
hazzyJust went to urbandictionaryOct 19 23:58
hazzyTo find itOct 19 23:59
_Goblinits funny how an innocent word can have a different meaning depending on the countryOct 19 23:59
Ender2070I have my first Fedora Ambassador meeting at 9 ESTOct 19 23:59
Ender2070:DOct 19 23:59

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