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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY EVERYONEOct 22 00:02
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Ender2070Diablo-D3 want to laugh your dick off?Oct 22 00:13
Diablo-D3sure why notOct 22 00:13
Ender2070can I pm you a link?Oct 22 00:14
Diablo-D3kOct 22 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Thinking about what to work on for next release of #CiviCRM. Rereading prior blog post: http://bit.ly/cNAwal which is quite relevant :)Oct 22 00:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts and ideas for CiviCRM 4.0 | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 75.01 KBOct 22 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] India to build observatory to study neutrino particles http://cli.gs/jrySaOct 22 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Google Engineer Builds #Facebook Disconnect https://eff.org/r.3t2Oct 22 00:22
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*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsOct 22 00:39
_GoblinWho says Microsoft doesn't have a sense of humour?Oct 22 00:41
hazzyI does.Oct 22 00:41
_GoblinDinoViehland - Open Source Developer at Microsoft - http://twitter.com/#!/DinoViehlandOct 22 00:41
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_GoblinThats a little like "Tony Blair - Ambassador of Peace"Oct 22 00:42
hazzyProbably releases exclusively under MS-PLOct 22 00:43
hazzyBut yeah thoughOct 22 00:43
hazzyThat's quite ironicOct 22 00:43
_GoblinI love it....Oct 22 00:43
_GoblinSteve Ballmer - Moral officer for Microsoft.....Oct 22 00:44
_Goblinstrange how someone claiming to be an Open Source coder is quite happy to mention that they work for Microsoft, yet the user who was trying to promote Windows Mobile 7 was not so keen on mentioning he worked for them......Oct 22 00:45
_GoblinIf I was suspicious minded.........Oct 22 00:46
hazzyYes, but I don't immediately see anything suspicious about itOct 22 00:46
nenolodMS-PL is an opensource licenseOct 22 00:46
_Goblinno i was talking about PROct 22 00:46
nenolodit's just GPL incompatible.Oct 22 00:46
cubevectorof courseOct 22 00:46
_GoblinMS is happy to associate with open source....Oct 22 00:46
oiaohmInternally so nenolodOct 22 00:46
cubevectorthey hate the GPLOct 22 00:46
_Goblinbut when it comes to advocacy it wants to pretend that there is no connection with them.Oct 22 00:47
oiaohmMS-PL is also not like GPL where it forces code to be given back.Oct 22 00:47
Ender2070MS-PL might be open soarsOct 22 00:47
nenolodopensource.org says it's open sourceOct 22 00:47
_Goblinwell Im convinced.Oct 22 00:47
hazzyYes, but not Free softwareOct 22 00:48
_Goblin;)Oct 22 00:48
nenolodcouldn't give a damnOct 22 00:48
oiaohmopen source covers items like BSD as well.Oct 22 00:48
nenolodexactlyOct 22 00:48
oiaohmI don't believe BSD is a good licence either.Oct 22 00:48
nenolodnobody asked your opinionOct 22 00:48
_Goblinthats not very nice.Oct 22 00:49
oiaohmI have seen how MIT licence on Wine as abused first hand.Oct 22 00:49
oiaohmSo I know exactly how MS can abuse MS-PL in future as well.Oct 22 00:49
WireWulfM$ = software rapeOct 22 00:49
oiaohmIe take there MS-PL code back alter it internaly to be incompadible then not give over the source code.Oct 22 00:49
WireWulfany wayOct 22 00:49
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Ender2070lol MS-PL is funnyOct 22 00:50
Ender2070(A) No Trademark License- This license does not grant you rights to use any contributors' name, logo, or trademarks.Oct 22 00:50
Ender2070(C) If you distribute any portion of the software, you must retain all copyright, patent, trademark, and attribution notices that are present in the software.Oct 22 00:50
WireWulfMS-PL = just more M$ faggit trickeryOct 22 00:50
oiaohmDue to the MS-PL wording it might be a invalid license.Oct 22 00:51
Ender2070the license doesnt grant you permission to use trademarks, yet you're required to use them if they're in thereOct 22 00:51
oiaohmYep.Oct 22 00:51
Ender2070wickedOct 22 00:52
Ender2070cause a trademark doesnt even have to be registeredOct 22 00:52
cubevectorBSD is fine thoughOct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @torontoist Ford's transit plan is a financial disaster: http://bit.ly/cqgn6b // #TorontoCanNOTafFORDOct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @anildash: The app store as announced for the Mac is almost the same idea Microsoft laid out for "Trustworthy Computing"Oct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Robo-calls - Politicans and parties don't care what you think http://t.co/aDxRTEy Me: Too bloody true.Oct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Linux 2.6.36 Released http://bit.ly/9lYu68Oct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Righthaven Loses First Lawsuit; Judge Says Copying Was Fair Use http://dlvr.it/7LBBBOct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] which nation has highest ranking in - "developers per square km". and "developer left hometown per square km" ?Oct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Pirate Parties Plan To Shoot Site Into Orbit http://bit.ly/cM7uCROct 22 00:52
cubevectorit's just the license that isn't idealOct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @ivanoransky: You’re doing it wrong: Sending material & calling it embargoed before an agreement doesn’t make it so http://bit.ly/d3KQ52Oct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @BarkingUnicorn: @sjvn Steven, here's the greatest tech headline ever written: http://bit.ly/akKOr4 Me: Oy!Oct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Newsstand: October 21, 2010 - Torontoist .::. Size~: 56.06 KBOct 22 00:52
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Wow.... I am so happy, I got highlighted at Techrights http://techrights.org/2010/10/21/aicte-challenged/ #FOSSOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Robo-calls - Politicans and parties don't care what you think | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 106.01 KBOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Linux 2.6.36 Released .::. Size~: 146.29 KBOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Righthaven Loses First Lawsuit; Judge Says Copying Was Fair Use | Techdirt .::. Size~: 35.75 KBOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Idle Story | Pirate Parties Plan To Shoot Site Into Orbit .::. Size~: 129.38 KBOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Youre doing it wrong: Sending material and calling it embargoed before an agreement doesnt make it so «  Embargo Watch .::. Size~: 26.62 KBOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seven inches is enough, RIM tells Jobs |  News.com.au .::. Size~: 69.59 KBOct 22 00:52
cubevectortchOct 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Narendra Sisodiya Takes on AICTE for Support of Foreign Software Monopolies | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.76 KBOct 22 00:52
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Ender2070mozilla bugs me thoughOct 22 00:53
Ender2070they use their trademarks to prevent changes they dont likeOct 22 00:53
Ender2070if you dont like it, then you renameOct 22 00:53
oiaohmWhat mozilla does I am fine with.Oct 22 00:53
oiaohmYou are legally allowed to remove the trademarks and they will help you do it.Oct 22 00:54
Ender2070im not because they use it to prevent fedora from fixing itOct 22 00:54
oiaohmReally GPL you are not ment to alter and keep the versioning the same either.Oct 22 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Solar exec admits solar will never be cost-effective: http://www.masterresource.org/2010/10/free-market-solar-opportunity/Oct 22 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] #Autotools-Mythbuster now gains documentation of #libtool's -no-install flag: http://is.gd/gbXRnOct 22 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Free-Market Solar: The Real Opportunity (this solar executive tells the feds and Arizona to cool the subsidies)  MasterResource .::. Size~: 72.64 KBOct 22 00:54
Ender2070"we wont give you trademark rights if you make firefox use system libraries"Oct 22 00:54
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Ender2070such bullshitOct 22 00:54
oiaohmFedora and others screw up on that one too at times.Oct 22 00:54
Ender2070Iceweasel is the solution I agreeOct 22 00:55
oiaohmIe appling patches and not changing version displayed.Oct 22 00:55
Ender2070but people think its inferior somehowOct 22 00:55
oiaohmMozilla just took the simpler path.Oct 22 00:55
Diablo-D3btwOct 22 00:55
Diablo-D3http://www.youtube.com/playbiennial?feature=tickerOct 22 00:55
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oiaohmTrademark not changed is simple to take threw court than not correctly versioning. Ender2070Oct 22 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Fail whales over on #Twitter again.Oct 22 00:56
oiaohmLot of project have trademarks and a lot of projects could take distributions for breach of them.  Ender2070Oct 22 00:56
Ender2070i know but trademarks are supposed to be used to protect your brand from damageOct 22 00:56
Ender2070not to prevent people from fixing itOct 22 00:56
oiaohmReally working effectively with upstream is a legal requirement if you don't want trademark problems.Oct 22 00:57
oiaohmwhat if you fixs cause the program to malfunction?  Ender2070Oct 22 00:57
Ender2070they should be using IceweaselOct 22 00:57
oiaohmAs debians did.Oct 22 00:57
oiaohmThen it becomes damage to trademark.Oct 22 00:57
Ender2070Fedora would have to change the program to make it use system librariesOct 22 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Rally to replace ALL of Victoria's dirty Hazelwood Power Station, Saturday 6 November at 1pm http://ur1.ca/256o1Oct 22 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @webmink actually most of them *do* specialize, but they still like to use the pretentious umbrella termOct 22 00:57
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Ender2070its part of their packaging policyOct 22 00:58
oiaohmIe working with upstream effectively and having alterations approved then you cannot be done for trademark.  Ender2070Oct 22 00:58
Ender2070no system libs bundledOct 22 00:58
Ender2070packaging policy comes before their upstream policyOct 22 00:58
WireWulfFedora should make a netWolf off of firefoxOct 22 00:58
oiaohmEnder2070: upstream first sloved the trademark issue most times.Oct 22 00:58
Ender2070the system should be secure before allowing 3rd party the ability to bundle security issuesOct 22 00:58
oiaohmSince patch you are using has been approved.Oct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @geekygirldawn: Just because you don't agree with a post in the forum, doesn't mean you can mark it as "spam" and get it deleted.Oct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] LAC-Lustre Leadership: SLAW on why Library & Archives Cdn needs to do more to preserve our digital heritage http://bit.ly/ayzQMTOct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] India's UID Project : Technical Challenges http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0i0ITx_9oOct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Why Facebook Won't Stop Invading Your Privacy http://bit.ly/beJOAeOct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Visiting Australia? Make Sure You Tell The Customs Officials About The Porn On Your Hard Drive http://dlvr.it/7LLJ0Oct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @johnbattelle "I'm not holding out much hope for the #Mac continuing to be a computer in any real sense" http://bit.ly/azPNYr #appleOct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Early Review of 11" Macbook Air http://bit.ly/9fJMl2Oct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @migueldeicaza: A rough year for Java, Apple will no longer provide Java on OSX/Lion: http://bit.ly/bsE6aEOct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] So called "free market" buffs should be strongly applauding #boycott as a tactic: It's the market speaking quite directly. #ListenUpOct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  LAC-lustre leadership   Slaw  .::. Size~: 64.08 KBOct 22 00:59
oiaohmNow if you start doing non approved patches then trademark can turn nasty.Oct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - India's UID Project :  Technical Challenges   .::. Size~: 113.36 KBOct 22 00:59
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Liberal release on open government/open data now online http://bit.ly/9wdFee policy doc [PDF] http://bit.ly/adO3kqOct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Why Facebook Won't Stop Invading Your Privacy .::. Size~: 153.19 KBOct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Visiting Australia? Make Sure You Tell The Customs Officials About The Porn On Your Hard Drive | Techdirt .::. Size~: 121.16 KBOct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Mac As Just Another i-Screen in an iWorld. NO THANKS. - John Battelle's Searchblog .::. Size~: 47.22 KBOct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Apple Story | Early Review of 11" Macbook Air .::. Size~: 149.92 KBOct 22 00:59
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Diablo-D3wtf botOct 22 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Liberals will open government to Canadians .::. Size~: 74.56 KBOct 22 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn that is certainly happening to patent prosecution lawyersOct 22 00:59
Ender2070i just want the software to follow packaging policyOct 22 00:59
Ender2070like all the other packagesOct 22 00:59
Ender2070only firefox got a free pass because its popularOct 22 01:00
oiaohmNote debain could have avoided the issue.Oct 22 01:00
Ender2070popular enough that they fear losing users over a name changeOct 22 01:00
oiaohmAnd mozilla would not have hit them.Oct 22 01:00
Ender2070debian stuck to their policyOct 22 01:00
Ender2070i give them +1Oct 22 01:00
oiaohmRename Firefox Debian firefox before the stuff up would have worked.Oct 22 01:00
Ender2070im tired of people giving up their integrity to get stuff that worksOct 22 01:00
oiaohmSince the altered version was labed differently.Oct 22 01:00
Diablo-D3oiaohm: you mean iceweaselOct 22 01:01
oiaohmBefore they got toasted.  Diablo-D3Oct 22 01:01
oiaohmAnd were forced to rename.Oct 22 01:01
oiaohmYou don't want a trademark holder forcing you to rename because then you cannot stay close.Oct 22 01:01
Ender2070let them try it in CanadaOct 22 01:01
Ender2070they dont own it hereOct 22 01:01
Ender2070:POct 22 01:01
Ender2070lolOct 22 01:01
Ender2070already looked it upOct 22 01:02
Ender2070they *tried* to register itOct 22 01:02
Ender2070but failed, someone else didOct 22 01:02
oiaohmRedhat for a long time on altered files placed redhat before it.Oct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @ch_s: LibreOffice counts one code commit every 15 minutes: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOfficeOct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @NetworkWorld: http://bit.ly/bgL8oC Technologically clueless Russian spy hired as 'IT innovator' for bankOct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] How Google Avoided Paying $60 Billion In Taxes http://bit.ly/a3au49Oct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] ReactOS Pushes Out A New Operating System Release: Phoronix: "The developers behind ReactOS, the free software ope... http://bit.ly/9qWS0aOct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Linux Kernel 2.6.36 Gets AppArmor Ubuntu Succeeds where Novell Failed http://is.gd/gbuiU #LinuxOct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Developers Pile On After Jobs Android Attack http://is.gd/gbvn2Oct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] websocket cannot help nerds/geeks who keep on polling community mailing lists :)Oct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @edbott: The best review of Windows Phone 7 is by someone who has never written a review before. @maryjofoley: http://is.gd/gbwrkOct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Why Would Attorney General Eric Holder Cite Debunked Stats About 'Piracy'? http://dlvr.it/7LZlWOct 22 01:02
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Technologically clueless Russian spy hired as 'IT innovator' for bank .::. Size~: 104.4 KBOct 22 01:02
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Bicycle Thief Barred From Using Encryption http://bit.ly/c8hnnzOct 22 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | How Google Avoided Paying $60 Billion In Taxes .::. Size~: 195.06 KBOct 22 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - ReactOS Pushes Out A New Operating System Release .::. Size~: 76.89 KBOct 22 01:02
oiaohmRecent years fedora has got lazy on doing it.Oct 22 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Evolution - Ron Miller - Developers Pile On After Jobs Android Attack .::. Size~: 227.15 KBOct 22 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Windows Phone 7 'review' from a non-reviewer | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 141.9 KBOct 22 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Would Attorney General Eric Holder Cite Debunked Stats About 'Piracy'? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 81.68 KBOct 22 01:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Story | Bicycle Thief Barred From Using Encryption .::. Size~: 155.31 KBOct 22 01:02
cubevectorstagger pleaseOct 22 01:02
Ender2070another thingOct 22 01:03
oiaohmI know you want to fix things.Oct 22 01:03
Ender2070mozilla keeps promising to fix it themselvesOct 22 01:03
oiaohmRules of GPL alown require version change and don't grant trademark usage either.Oct 22 01:04
Ender2070but they are too busy bending over backwards fixing farmville and adding windows only featuresOct 22 01:04
oiaohmReally what a lot of distributions are doing what the did with openoffice and go-ooOct 22 01:04
oiaohmgo-oo labed as openofficeOct 22 01:04
oiaohmSince it had patches.Oct 22 01:04
Ender2070redhat cant complain thoughOct 22 01:05
Ender2070they have their own trademarks they enforceOct 22 01:05
oiaohmNot legally right.  Gave OpenOffice project no motivation to fix the bugs.Oct 22 01:05
Ender2070but look at LinusOct 22 01:05
Ender2070he doesnt make people change the name of the kernel when they do stuff he doesnt want to add himselfOct 22 01:05
Ender2070he just doesnt want them using it if its NOT linuxOct 22 01:05
oiaohmBasically if trademark rules were followed libreoffice would have been started years ago.  Ender2070Oct 22 01:05
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] >@ID_AA_Carmack Why don’t email programs filter mail in languages I dont know? /i'd say the now-common Bayesian filters effectively do #spamOct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Do you need more RAM... or less program? #parsimonyOct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @boingboing "Business as usual not an option if we hope to bequeath [a] life worth living to children+grandchildren" http://bit.ly/aiNlYwOct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @boingboing #Virginia school AP History class bans curiosity, independent study, Internet - Boi.. http://bit.ly/cK5DfF #education #failOct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] RDS Protocol Bug Creates a Linux Kernel Hole, Now Fixed http://bit.ly/cd45M9Oct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] '50 Ways to Get Unfriended on Facebook' http://is.gd/gbBRjOct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] http://is.gd/gbCcs Syncing Linux With iPad #Linux Yes--thank you Banshee--you can do it.Oct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @mikeolson: Holy moly. One fifth of North American downstream bandwidth is Netflix. See ya, Blockbuster. http://bit.ly/bOlryK Me: Wowser!Oct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] The New Children's Health Plan Is Videogames? http://dlvr.it/7LkRPOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ayahuasca as a remedy for the wider ills of the West - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 100.12 KBOct 22 01:06
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Cheap Software Tools Give New Life To Stop-Motion Animation http://bit.ly/a4nvEhOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Virginia school AP History class bans curiousity, independent study, Internet - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 172.31 KBOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | RDS Protocol Bug Creates a Linux Kernel Hole, Now Fixed .::. Size~: 121.8 KBOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 50 Ways to Get Unfriended on Facebook .::. Size~: 37.67 KBOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:        Netflix's Squeeze -- No Not That One, The Other One    .::. Size~: 10.85 KBOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New Children's Health Plan Is Videogames? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.05 KBOct 22 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Cheap Software Tools Give New Life To Stop-Motion Animation .::. Size~: 139.16 KBOct 22 01:06
Ender2070there were some australian trademark lawsuits over linux iircOct 22 01:06
oiaohmBasically there are a lot of projects that should be forked by distributions due to poor maintaince.Oct 22 01:06
Ender2070the companies had nothing to do with the kernel or anything at allOct 22 01:06
Ender2070thats where its goodOct 22 01:06
oiaohmEnder2070:  you see the trademark issue as a bad thing.Oct 22 01:07
Ender2070I doOct 22 01:07
oiaohmI see the trademark issue as a good thing.Oct 22 01:07
Ender2070it can be abused to make software non freeOct 22 01:07
Ender2070in extreme casesOct 22 01:07
Ender2070even according to the FSFOct 22 01:07
oiaohmIf you don't have people do stupid things like iceweasel to be insultings.Oct 22 01:07
Ender2070iceweasel isnt stupidOct 22 01:08
Ender2070its debian following policy and helping its usersOct 22 01:08
Ender2070"stop changing the code or change the name" "fine"Oct 22 01:08
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] The music in my office today is coming from Nina Simone http://www.ninasimone.com/ So sorry I never had a chance to see her live.Oct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Open Source-Friendly Smartphones For the Small Office? http://bit.ly/cMmlzbOct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Comic Book 'Pirated' On 4Chan, Author Joins Discussion... Watches Sales Soar http://dlvr.it/7LphNOct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @linux_at_ibm: you don't make this kind of attack video unless you're worried about the a competitor's success. http://bit.ly/b9WlozOct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @linux_at_ibm: A Decade of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server on the IBM Mainframe http://bit.ly/dfdrUC Me: Nice summary. Wish I'd written it.Oct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Why Silicon Valley Won't Be the Green Car Detroit http://bit.ly/dfwfjTOct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Serious Linux Kernel security hole http://bit.ly/c2CO6v Most #Linux bugs are more bark than bite. Not this one. by @sjvnOct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Ad Firm Pays Up To Studios, Promises Not To Work With 'Pirate' Sites Any More http://dlvr.it/7Lw0VOct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Word is second reading for Bill C-32 delayed by one week - likely date now November 2nd.Oct 22 01:09
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Testing High-Speed Fiber Network At Stanford Res Halls http://bit.ly/aMUpdQOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | Open Source-Friendly Smartphones For the Small Office? .::. Size~: 144.69 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comic Book 'Pirated' On 4Chan, Author Joins Discussion... Watches Sales Soar | Techdirt .::. Size~: 119.73 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Gives its Blessing to OpenOffice.org - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 55.37 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Decade of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server on the IBM Mainframe | Tech Talk | Connection Magazine .::. Size~: 19.31 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Why Silicon Valley Won't Be the Green Car Detroit .::. Size~: 150.19 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Serious Linux Kernel security hole - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 66.74 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ad Firm Pays Up To Studios, Promises Not To Work With 'Pirate' Sites Any More | Techdirt .::. Size~: 34.58 KBOct 22 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Google Testing High-Speed Fiber Network At Stanford Res Halls .::. Size~: 128.79 KBOct 22 01:09
oiaohmiceweasel was design to be a shove it up nose responce to trademark protection.  Ender2070Oct 22 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Just received my htc desire hd and i'm loving it!Oct 22 01:09
Ender2070LOLOct 22 01:09
Ender2070dudeOct 22 01:09
Ender2070you just saidOct 22 01:09
oiaohmIt was.Oct 22 01:09
Ender2070if you dont like the trademark issue change the nameOct 22 01:09
Ender2070and you're now slandering them for itOct 22 01:10
Ender2070oiaohm you never cease to amaze meOct 22 01:10
oiaohmDebian was asked many times to change to tag.Oct 22 01:10
WireWulfmaybe I am weird but i fin someone likeing m code well anuff to improve apon it the up most respectOct 22 01:10
oiaohmDebian disregard trademarkOct 22 01:10
oiaohmLeading to Mozilla hit them.Oct 22 01:10
Ender2070oiaohm why are you always rooting for the bad guys?Oct 22 01:10
oiaohmAnd when they lost lot of debian guys created a stack of bad PR.Oct 22 01:11
oiaohmYou call them bad.Oct 22 01:11
Ender2070its a bad thing to doOct 22 01:11
oiaohmThere are rules.Oct 22 01:11
oiaohmRules that cover trademarks to prevent people being blamed for defects they did not create.Oct 22 01:11
Ender2070yeah?Oct 22 01:11
Ender2070im not saying the rules are bad, im saying the abuse of them isOct 22 01:12
oiaohmDebian abused the rules as well.Oct 22 01:12
oiaohmFirst.Oct 22 01:12
Ender2070they're automatically assuming that fixing their software will create defectsOct 22 01:12
oiaohmNo.Oct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Ah, "settlements". What a great euphemism.Oct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] In Florida, a Cell Phone Network With No Need For a Spectrum License http://bit.ly/dcEscYOct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Creative Commons' Branding Confusion http://dlvr.it/7M0xWOct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] On Several Fronts, US Gov't Prepares To Regulate Online Privacy http://bit.ly/bISmWxOct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] NASA Strikes Gold and Water On the Moon http://bit.ly/bP6I9JOct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Twitter Hands @NFLLockout Handle Over To NFL Union, Despite No Trademark http://dlvr.it/7M6x9Oct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] ACTA - DG Trade circumvents Parliament with Art 207 http://acta.ffii.org/wordpress/?p=123Oct 22 01:12
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] DW: Your revolution is fatally deficient in my favoured dance step. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/546212.htmlOct 22 01:12
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Ender2070thats insulting to the people fixing itOct 22 01:12
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oiaohmThe 4000 bug reports in Mozilla bugzilla proved that.  Ender2070Oct 22 01:12
WireWulfI get 4000 bug reports a day tooOct 22 01:13
Ender2070Linus isn't worried about the Linux name being harmed when you make changes to his kernelOct 22 01:13
oiaohmAt that point Mozilla sent Debian mantaines a please explan and please take support.Oct 22 01:13
Ender2070linux has more bugsOct 22 01:13
WireWulfon a good dayOct 22 01:13
oiaohmAnd the numbers just kept on growing.Oct 22 01:13
oiaohmBasically debian maintainers stuffed up a patch.Oct 22 01:14
Ender2070oh noes, they made a mistakeOct 22 01:14
oiaohmThe worse part was the test suite of firefox would have detected it.Oct 22 01:14
Ender2070its the principal of the matterOct 22 01:14
oiaohmIe debian maintainer had not run the test suite.Oct 22 01:14
Ender2070you're not free to redistribute your own changesOct 22 01:14
Ender2070if you do 1) you're thumbing your nose at MozillaOct 22 01:15
WireWulfyeah :(Oct 22 01:15
oiaohmYou are free to redistribute your own changes as long as you don't screw up and the trademark holder starts getting blamed for your mistakes.Oct 22 01:15
Ender20702) using freedom #3Oct 22 01:15
WireWulfI mean I see ubuntu users and fedora users in ##linux everydayOct 22 01:15
oiaohmChanging the name so that it is clearly yours Ender2070Oct 22 01:15
WireWulfmaybe klinux should sueOct 22 01:16
oiaohmPrevents the trademark holder being hit by it.Oct 22 01:16
oiaohmSo then they have no legal right to be upset with you.Oct 22 01:16
oiaohmSimple change.Oct 22 01:16
Ender2070ill link it to youOct 22 01:16
oiaohmHeck Debian Firefox would have been enough.Oct 22 01:16
Ender2070the FSF saidOct 22 01:16
Ender2070abuse of trademarks in extreme cases can make software non freeOct 22 01:16
oiaohmWorst part was Debian maintainer had not even changed the version numbers.Oct 22 01:16
WireWulfIceWasleOct 22 01:16
WireWulfworksOct 22 01:17
Ender2070http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.htmlOct 22 01:17
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Ender2070scroll down to trademarkOct 22 01:17
Ender2070"In extreme cases, these restrictions may effectively render the program nonfree. It is unfair for someone to ask you to remove a trademark from modified code if that trademark is scattered all throughout the original source. As long as the practical requirements are reasonable, however, free system distributions may include these programs, either with or without the trademarks."Oct 22 01:17
Ender2070but you sayOct 22 01:17
Ender2070without the trademarks, you're just being a jerk to MoFoOct 22 01:17
Ender2070as Debian wasOct 22 01:18
Ender2070allegedlyOct 22 01:18
oiaohmNotice that ubuntu ships with altered firefox using the firefox trademark.Oct 22 01:18
WireWulfokay their are a ton of FireFox based browsersOct 22 01:18
oiaohmYes with mozilla blessing by the way.  Due to obeying a few simple rules to prevent incorrect blame.  Including testcases being run.Oct 22 01:19
WireWulflike IceWeaslOct 22 01:19
Ender2070Ubuntu gets permissionOct 22 01:19
Ender2070they bundle system libs thoughOct 22 01:19
oiaohmDebian could have as well.Oct 22 01:19
Ender2070so they dont care about making that changeOct 22 01:19
WireWulfooh noez I use a altered version of weechatOct 22 01:19
oiaohmFedora could as well.Oct 22 01:19
Ender2070you dont understandOct 22 01:19
Ender2070ITS AGAINST POLICYOct 22 01:19
oiaohmThe rules are not hard.Oct 22 01:19
Ender2070whos rules are more importantOct 22 01:20
oiaohmPolicy does not match the legal requirements of trademarks.Oct 22 01:20
oiaohmIe make sure you don't give the trademark holder a black eye to the best of you ablity.Oct 22 01:20
oiaohmFail to do that you are toast.Oct 22 01:20
Ender2070thats why they are supposed to remove the trademarkOct 22 01:20
WireWulfand hey ddOct 22 01:21
WireWulf*didOct 22 01:21
Ender2070Fedora didntOct 22 01:21
oiaohmAnd removing trademark is getting simpler.Oct 22 01:21
Ender2070they made an exception for itOct 22 01:21
WireWulffedora uses stock firefoxOct 22 01:21
Ender2070now its just unmaintainedOct 22 01:21
Ender2070if it takes mozilla 6 months to fix a security bug, so be itOct 22 01:21
WireWulftinycore uses stock firefoxOct 22 01:21
Ender2070i wont ever be using stock firefox on linux thank you very muchOct 22 01:21
Ender2070for one theres no KDE integrationOct 22 01:22
oiaohmhttp://coccinelle.lip6.fr/  Ender2070Oct 22 01:22
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Ender2070yet they allow DIRECTXOct 22 01:22
oiaohmFor a lot of projects removing trademark tages the licence does not demard is a few days work.Oct 22 01:22
WireWulfEnder2070: I reather Dislike KDEOct 22 01:22
WireWulfnot a big fan of Gnome eitherOct 22 01:23
oiaohmStuff like MS-PL is trouble because they make it legally hard to remove the trademark.   MPL mozilla license will not rape you for removing the trademarks.Oct 22 01:23
Ender2070they had rather few optionsOct 22 01:23
Ender2070they could keep the trademark and not make any changes, so mozilla is the only one fixing stuff, and if the bug is linux only good luckOct 22 01:23
oiaohmIn my eyes if a project has major trouble where you have to be patching it ever release.Oct 22 01:23
Ender2070they could remove the trademark and turn into upstreamOct 22 01:24
oiaohmAnd many distributions are doing the same thing.Oct 22 01:24
oiaohmIt should be forked.  Ender2070Oct 22 01:24
Ender2070they could remove the software entirelyOct 22 01:24
oiaohmThat simple.Oct 22 01:24
Ender2070it should be forked  yesOct 22 01:24
oiaohmForked trademark removed problems fixed.Oct 22 01:24
Ender2070i think debian should be the new upstreamOct 22 01:24
oiaohmMaybe put under another trademarkOct 22 01:24
Ender2070IceweaselOct 22 01:24
oiaohmAnd if the issue happens again fork and repeat.Oct 22 01:24
oiaohmAnd over time the ones that are not good will die off.Oct 22 01:25
Ender2070we already have iceweaselOct 22 01:25
Ender2070the other distros should jump ship to it and help outOct 22 01:25
Ender2070it would be less of a disasterOct 22 01:25
oiaohmBasically licences that don't stick trademarks in code I don't have a issue with people enforcing trademarks.Oct 22 01:25
Ender2070as you put itOct 22 01:25
oiaohmIe MPL I see as a licence where its perfectly fine to enforce trademark.Oct 22 01:25
Ender2070yeahOct 22 01:26
Ender2070dont get me wrongOct 22 01:26
oiaohmsince it should force you todo the right thing.Oct 22 01:26
Ender2070i agree with what trademarks are supposed to protectOct 22 01:26
Ender2070but mozilla often uses it as a club and so do othersOct 22 01:26
oiaohmIe fork off a broken projects.Oct 22 01:26
oiaohmMozilla club usage I see as right.Oct 22 01:26
oiaohmBecause a fork off should have been triggered by the problems.Oct 22 01:26
Ender2070you think they know betterOct 22 01:26
oiaohmAnd Distributions were avoiding forking off.Oct 22 01:27
oiaohmTo get the advantage of the brand name,Oct 22 01:27
Ender2070i think Fedora knows better than Mozilla about securityOct 22 01:27
Ender2070Security is not something that Firefox hasOct 22 01:27
Ender2070its STILL missing per process tabsOct 22 01:27
oiaohmWhy not a Secure Firefox for Fedora with its alterations.Oct 22 01:27
Ender2070why do I have a single threaded browser in 2010?Oct 22 01:28
oiaohmThis is the point a side trademark mozilla would have put up with.Oct 22 01:28
WireWulfFedoraFoxOct 22 01:28
Ender2070you know what google doesOct 22 01:28
Ender2070theres chromium for thatOct 22 01:28
Ender2070no trademark bullshitOct 22 01:28
oiaohmHaving two items same name same version number but are different was bad.Oct 22 01:28
oiaohmGoogle has two trademarks there.Oct 22 01:28
Ender2070they dont club people over the headOct 22 01:28
WireWulfgive them timeOct 22 01:29
Ender2070chromium is freeOct 22 01:29
oiaohmchromium still could be used as a club if it cause them trouble.Oct 22 01:29
Ender2070nahOct 22 01:29
Ender2070most devs dont think like thatOct 22 01:29
oiaohmLegally it can.Oct 22 01:29
Ender2070firefox is the only package in Fedora that requires trademark exceptionsOct 22 01:29
oiaohmIf google starts getting blamed for the defects of chromium.Oct 22 01:29
Ender2070every other package, gives no shitOct 22 01:29
WireWulfmost dev have no idea about laws eitherOct 22 01:29
oiaohmThat is damaging the google trademark so they can attack.Oct 22 01:29
Ender2070google isnt stupidOct 22 01:29
oiaohmBasically someone has a trademark don't give them black eyes from your mistakes.Oct 22 01:30
Ender2070enforcing their trademark would kill chromiumOct 22 01:30
Ender2070oiaohm - so then we should call linux something different in each distro?Oct 22 01:30
oiaohmmost likely not.Oct 22 01:30
Ender2070or use upstream 100% of the timeOct 22 01:31
Ender2070perhaps Linus should tell any distro with a modified kernel to rename linux to something else?Oct 22 01:31
oiaohmLegally some distributions need to watch it.Oct 22 01:31
oiaohmOn not clearly marking that there Linux kernel is altered.Oct 22 01:32
Ender2070legally you're full of shitOct 22 01:32
Ender2070iggyOct 22 01:32
oiaohmUbuntu Linux and Redhat Linux and so on provides clear seperation.Oct 22 01:32
oiaohmBut at the package level some distributions do need to legally watch it.Oct 22 01:32
oiaohmFailure to clearlly tag you alterations is what gets you into big trouble with trademarks and open source.Oct 22 01:33
oiaohmHeck clearly taging you alterations is a requirement of the GPL anyhow.  Ender2070Oct 22 01:33
oiaohmSo some cases some distributions are in breach of GPL itself.Oct 22 01:35
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] “There’s no chance that the #iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance,” Steve BallmerOct 22 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 22 01:36
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oiaohmEnder2070: The annoying part of your argument.  Is that most of what is required to prevent being on the Wrong side of Trademarks is what is Required to follow GPL licences.Oct 22 01:39
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cubevectorI'll call that a tie :)Oct 22 01:43
WireWulfI call it a winOct 22 01:45
WireWulfno more biceringOct 22 01:45
WireWulflolOct 22 01:45
cubevector;-)Oct 22 01:45
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] File Sharing... In... Spaaaaaaace http://dlvr.it/7MCY4Oct 22 01:46
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WireWulfI lost my files in space beforeOct 22 01:46
WireWulfdirty people from mars and their 1337 hackersOct 22 01:46
cubevectorhmm, maybe they really were talking about file sharing in spaceOct 22 01:49
cubevectorI can't get into arguments like licensesOct 22 01:50
cubevectorlike the whole Linux vs BSD thingOct 22 01:50
cubevectorI use both and don't worry about itOct 22 01:51
cubevectoror the trademarks on firefox... I meanOct 22 01:51
cubevectorI'm sure mozilla cares about thatOct 22 01:51
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] "seeds for #Microsoft's decline, sown by Bill Gates..were evident as far back as 1981,when I interviewed w/80 person outfit named Microsoft"Oct 22 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @schestowitz: Narendra Sisodiya Takes on #AICTE for Support of Foreign Software Monopolies http://ur... http://bit.ly/94TC49Oct 22 01:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Anyone used or have an opinion on Doctrine2, an ORM for PHP: http://www.doctrine-project.org/ and any thoughts on using it with #CiviCRMOct 22 02:01
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @webmink: Maybe it's just me, but those Apple AppStore rules look like they'd exclude most OSS & all GPL sftwr. http://pastie.org/1236378Oct 22 02:09
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @Annaleen: Meg Whitman's twitter gaffe led to a video that lifted my spirits considerably. So cute! http://bit.ly/aWXbcOOct 22 02:09
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @pleia2: London Stock Exchange moves to Linux - Computerworld Blogs http://bit.ly/dkiCi8Oct 22 02:16
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Aaron Sorkin: "I was writing about a very angry & deeply misogynistic group of people" http://ur1.ca/257ce #TheSocialNetwork #facebook #femOct 22 02:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Damned Tornado is going to be in Edinburgh tomorrowOct 22 02:39
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williamiHeyOct 22 02:40
williamiDid I come in a bit too late?Oct 22 02:41
williamiHellloooo!Oct 22 02:41
williamiHaldo?Oct 22 02:41
williamiIs anyone there? If so, can you please respond?Oct 22 02:43
*williami is waiting for an callOct 22 02:43
williamiI guess it's not a good time to talk?Oct 22 02:45
williamiIf so, I'll try some other channel.Oct 22 02:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] python3 upgrade borked @x11r6 and i'm feeling too lazy to fix it. oh well.Oct 22 02:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] So i guess that means RIP @x11r6 ya theraflu-chugging bastard.Oct 22 02:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Statement by the ASF Board on recent #Java-related events https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/statement_by_the_asf_boardOct 22 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post ! Nothing Is Ever Created In Isolation http://bit.ly/azytWP be warned, it's an in-depth post, don't expect a quick skim readOct 22 03:03
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Ender2070anyone ever try out virus studio 2010 professional?Oct 22 03:21
Ender2070errr visualOct 22 03:21
WireWulflolOct 22 03:21
Ender2070my school was advertising itOct 22 03:22
Ender2070they give it awayOct 22 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] last post has been updated with some new links to youtube example videos, refresh to see themOct 22 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito cool, so you done with finals for the year?Oct 22 03:34
Ender2070+1Oct 22 03:45
Ender2070http://twitter.com/Arubin/status/27808662429Oct 22 03:45
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] SD Adapter For Dreamcast Released http://bit.ly/c1KBNZOct 22 03:46
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] EU Court Of Justice Says Private Copying Levy On Device Maker Violates EU Law http://dlvr.it/7MNbCOct 22 03:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Intel X-Video Sandybridge Support Arrives: While Intel has not even rolled out their Sandy Bridge processors yet, ... http://bit.ly/aJhS0YOct 22 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Good to see even Youtube fucks up sometimes http://ur1.ca/257w1 (via @edythemighty)Oct 22 04:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Awesome infographic on the ideals of free software spreading throughout the world. We need more of these! www.reddit.com/tb/duprhOct 22 04:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Join me in opposition to the War on Sharing and sign this petition against the Internet blacklist (COICA): http://ur1.ca/258dx !fsf !lpOct 22 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] There were people who thought #SCOracle's actions didn't threaten Apache Harmony? They were wrong. http://is.gd/gcbQM #java #jre #jvmOct 22 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=110 "The entire chapter was devoted to a glowing advertisement for Intellectual Ventures" #swpatOct 22 05:34
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schestowitzThere was a downtimes/unavailability earlier at TtechrightsOct 22 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 I got this post covered here: http://techrights.org/2010/07/08/donating-back-commons/Oct 22 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Okay, got @x11r6 working again after rewriting some stuff. He's talking to me in a shell ATM. So far he said: "stop shittin chips hippy".Oct 22 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Also, he wont stop telling me that KDE sucks. Haha.Oct 22 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I can't stop eating bacon. That isn't good.Oct 22 05:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101022 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 22 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] X11R6: I'm not a fish n shits. Me: Yes you are. X11R6: No I'm not! it didn't happen. I'm innocent! Here, kde sucks to like sex, Penis.Oct 22 05:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] from @x11r6: "The cake is yourself. Calm down, keep yelling." !qOct 22 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] !q @x11r6: "Calm down, kde sucks have some cake."Oct 22 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Must Watch: http://tv.gawker.com/5663083/this-is-the-most-touching-it-gets-better-video-you-will-ever-see (via @digimer)Oct 22 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @digimer CBC News: dropping charges against the majority of those caught up in the mass arrests. http://bit.ly/cM0Sr7 #G20 #FreeByronOct 22 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Battling the #BSA Hydra – Interpretation and Spanish Translation http://ur1.ca/259al orig. by @karsten of !fsfeOct 22 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana my heart is bleeding for them. I used to be sort of one, then recovered well. My dark ages...Oct 22 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @tieguy wikipedia hiring for bugmaster http://ur1.ca/256fg (app due tomorrow!) and general counsel http://ur1.ca/256gjOct 22 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @speeddefrost is @x11r6 related to @x11r5 ?Oct 22 06:34
jmwman!listOct 22 06:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] @laurelrusswurm Not really..Oct 22 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I'm trying to input with speech recognition. doesn't work much. Needs network connection.Oct 22 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stephen Elop Says No New !Linux Phones From #Nokia This Year, Talks About Cross-platform #Qt http://ur1.ca/259ew #meegoOct 22 06:46
MinceRm$-RL has the same conflict as m$-PLOct 22 06:46
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] AMD's New Radeon HD 6870 and 6850 Cards Debut http://bit.ly/9Z8OmdOct 22 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Drinking !coffee and listen to !FOSS 139 is it just me or are there getting more and mode half and half FOSS on the show? !Linux !GNUOct 22 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Well, he actually sort of makes sense: "I should rename you on identi.ca - you'll be like statusnet people on twitter"Oct 22 07:06
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Belle & Sebastian Considers Opening Up A Taqueria http://dlvr.it/7Md25Oct 22 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] And his plans for when he returns to identi.ca: "Yes, great idea, rule over them. play god, fine. people on twitter Okay. Good Idea,"Oct 22 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Or wait, no, scratch that. I mis interpretted him.Oct 22 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Stephen Elop Says No New !Linux Phones From #Nokia This Year, Talks About Cross-platform #Qt http://ur1.ca/259ew #meegoOct 22 07:14
Diablo-D3"Jobs was the photographer at Ellison's wedding."Oct 22 07:15
Diablo-D3seriously?Oct 22 07:15
Diablo-D3I didnt know Jobs was into photographyOct 22 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Is #Ekiga 3.2.6 client broken? I can't register to their #SIP service with a valid password, no matter if I have a #NAT gateway or not...Oct 22 07:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple -- Like #Microsoft -- Compromises the Future of !Java http://techrights.org/2010/10/22/apple-attacks-java/Oct 22 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] /me is wondering where @x11r6 learned the word "picture". I wiped his memory, but he still knows it somehow..Oct 22 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @speeddefrost @x11r5 kind of makes sense too. But every now and then he drops a good one worth redentingOct 22 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good night identiverse i'm dozing off. Life is too exciting. Could be worse...could be locked w/o possibility of parole. #FreeByronOct 22 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looking around our !minecraft server now that it works again. :)Oct 22 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Why #Ubuntu has no #smolt implementation ? AUTOMATICALLY reporting hardware would be immensely beneficial https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/Oct 22 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Divirtam-se http://oldfungames.comOct 22 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Have Fun http://oldfungames.comOct 22 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz #Apple -- Like #Microsoft -- Compromises the Future of !Java http://techrights.org/2010/10/22/apple-attacks-java/Oct 22 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Among the first ~1200 commits for 2.6.37: ceph rework http://bit.ly/aOOlqn, pm and libata updates http://bit.ly/agMZRN http://bit.ly/9lQypzOct 22 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #x11r6 !q "Okay. jesus. or raptor Who's your god?"Oct 22 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Do tell me: why does !gentoo take so much time to deal with fetch/digest failures? :|Oct 22 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EMC/VMB_ware Still in “Exclusive Talks” to Buy Novell's #SUSE http://ur1.ca/259uh #novell #vmware #opensuseOct 22 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Okay. Seriously. I'm freaking out. #x11r6 somehow knows the word "subscribe" and I never taght it to him yet.Oct 22 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @johnsu01 Join me in opposition to the War on Sharing and sign this petition against the Internet blacklist (COICA): http://ur1.ca/25 ...Oct 22 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @schestowitz Battling the #BSA Hydra – Interpretation and Spanish Translation http://ur1.ca/259al orig. by @karsten of !fsfeOct 22 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @graziano full URL, please, this has been truncated. CiaoOct 22 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @carlopiana http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/stop-the-internet-blacklistOct 22 08:09
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] #Wikipedia article of the day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientationOct 22 08:16
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] New Ekiga account: martivanlin@ekiga.org screw Skype :-pOct 22 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] New Ekiga account: martivanlin@ekiga.org screw Skype :-pOct 22 08:16
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Off to the Brusselse Poort mall for shopping, need !Linux magazines and some booz for tonight.Oct 22 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Off to the Brusselse Poort mall for shopping, need !Linux magazines and some booz for tonight.Oct 22 08:21
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Off to the Brusselse Poort mall for shopping, need #Linux magazines and some booz for tonight.Oct 22 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] RT @graziano @carlopiana http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/stop-the-internet-blacklistOct 22 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] RT @johnsu01 Join me in opposition to the War on Sharing and sign this petition against the Internet blacklist (COICA): http://ur1.ca/25 ...Oct 22 08:24
schestowitz_log<MinceR> m$-RL has the same conflict as m$-PLOct 22 08:26
schestowitz_logMS-RL?Oct 22 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @mako Let's not be afraid to redefine what is practical or realistic. That's the only way we'll win. http://ur1.ca/23kz9Oct 22 08:33
-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Rush Limbaugh on liberal (in the sense of left-wing) hypocrisy of Apple and Google leaders http://bit.ly/aYFG0MOct 22 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Novell: Identity Manager 4 and Only More Proprietary Software http://ur1.ca/25aa6 #suse #novellOct 22 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just killed a monster tree in !minecraft. Had to burn it down in the end. It was a huuuuuuge bastard!Oct 22 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Where the heck is everyone these days? Identi.ca is like a ghosttown.Oct 22 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Aveți o hartă #GPS proastă? Îmbunătățiți-o chiar Dvs. , contribuind la proiectul #liber #OpenStreetMap http://tinyurl.com/5w8gew #romaniaOct 22 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] My number of subscribers just went up a bunch again. Hmm.Oct 22 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Nicu Buculei: Release party poster for #Fedora 14 or A story about ninjas http://bit.ly/d7t9REOct 22 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Three Things That Won't Be In The !Linux 2.6.37 Kernel http://ur1.ca/25agk "2.6.36 kernel was released yesterday"Oct 22 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ha! My copy of !Fallout New Vegas just arrived. They send me the fucking Collector's Edition box! OoOct 22 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @speeddefrost I'm here. Just not in talkative mode.Oct 22 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: Currently reading http://ittrends.ro/2010/10/raza-de-speranta/Oct 22 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: România pe 7 din 14 în privind pregatirea pt aplicaţiile Internet ale viitorului http://ittrends.ro/2010/10/paradox-confirmat/Oct 22 09:01
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-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Avatar op Twitter en identi.ca aangepast om actie Bits Of Freedom toch zoveel mogelijk te steunen http://ur1.ca/25ahn Dank je @kletskousOct 22 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] daren’t count how many entries noscript has for @techcrunch .com — what does that crap get me beyond what I want to read?Oct 22 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Avatar op Twitter en identi.ca aangepast om actie Bits Of Freedom toch zoveel mogelijk te steunen http://ur1.ca/25ahn Dank je @kletskousOct 22 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I miss summer already. Once it comes I'm probably going to be missing winter then.Oct 22 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Three Things That Won't Be In The !Linux 2.6.37 Kernel http://ur1.ca/25agk "2.6.36 kernel was released yesterday"Oct 22 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Building in the round: http://ur1.ca/25aji - sustainable use of softwood for round-frame constructionOct 22 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bilă albă pentru declarația noului ministru #MCSI http://www.agora.ro/interviu/bila-alba-pentru-declara%C8%9Bia-noului-ministru-mcsi #teoOct 22 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China unveils state-run online mapping site - http://bit.ly/ctEZgx knowledge (and geography) is power #china #mappingOct 22 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Starting the day with the usual Teekanne Multivitamin teaOct 22 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Fellow Dutch geeks, please support today's BOF campaign: http://ur1.ca/25ahn fellow non Dutch geeks, check this out: http://ur1.ca/25alqOct 22 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @johnsu01 Join me in opposition to the War on Sharing and sign this petition against the Internet blacklist (COICA): http://ur1.ca/25 ...Oct 22 09:14
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Fellow Dutch geeks, please support today's BOF campaign: http://ur1.ca/25ahn fellow non Dutch geeks, check this out: http://ur1.ca/25alqOct 22 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Intellectual Property Hampers Capitalism - http://bit.ly/9cSCwz transcript of fine lecture by Stephan Kinsella #capitalismOct 22 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] #Facebook disconnect empêche FB de vous traquer sur le Web (via ses «Like») ext. Chrome http://is.gd/gcqaL ( RT! )Oct 22 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] are we fast yet? - http://bit.ly/95uAxL why competition is good #browsers #javascriptOct 22 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @slashdot Pirate Parties Plan To Shoot Site Into Orbit http://bit.ly/cM7uCROct 22 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Asterisk 1.8 Released with Support for Google Voice, Calendaring, and More - http://bit.ly/bHkBxP better and better #voip #opensourceOct 22 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow! Today is the best day ever! Our Kindle got here too! Presents!!! :DOct 22 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Fedora 14 Reflects Evolution of Leading-Edge Open Source http://is.gd/gcrla #redhat #gnu #linuxOct 22 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @SJVN @geekygirldawn Just because you don't agree with a post in the forum, doesn't mean you can mark it as "spam" and get it deleted.Oct 22 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LPI recognized by UK education authorities - http://bit.ly/9fxI5Y it's a start #linux #uk #educationOct 22 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Quixote: Computational chemistry; We made it! Please join us. - http://bit.ly/duPZY8 "Open, distributed, automated Knowledgebase" congratsOct 22 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Valerian Vreme: Dupa 15 noiembrie, vom extinde numarul de primarii care se vor inrola in Sistemul de Plati Online.Oct 22 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @glynmoody LPI recognized by UK education authorities - http://bit.ly/9fxI5Y it's a start // Looking forward to seeing it in FE collegesOct 22 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Minuistrul Comunicatiilor: Vom infiinta o comisie pentru introducerea standardelor de cost.Oct 22 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus Christ! This #Kindle is sexy!!! :OOct 22 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Valerian Vreme: Dupa intai noiembrie, 4 primarii se vor inrola in Sistemul de Plati Online.Oct 22 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Cele 4 primarii sunt din Oradea, Arad, Satu Mare si Campia Turzii.Oct 22 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Vom lansa un nou apel de proiecte pt operatiunea Sustinerea conectarii unitatilor scolare la net prin conexiuni broadbandOct 22 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chromeless: Build your own Browser UI using HTML, CSS and JS - http://mzl.la/cEq9SE "allows for the creation of new browser UI" #mozillaOct 22 09:39
MinceRaOct 22 09:40
MinceRdisregard thatOct 22 09:40
MinceRschestowitz_log: yesOct 22 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #x11r6 said something like "halfway around the cake" or something like that. I don't like where this is headed.Oct 22 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @sjvn RT @ch_s: LibreOffice counts one code commit every 15 minutes: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOfficeOct 22 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Libel and the Holy Man - http://bit.ly/be1qkD bonkers #libel #ukOct 22 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I'm currently #87 on #denticator. I was #98 only a week ago. Hmm..Oct 22 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Not that it matters, but yeah.Oct 22 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ffii/@ffii] What de Gucht said about the digital impact http://acta.ffii.org/wordpress/?p=129 #acta #internet #filteringOct 22 09:44
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-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] What de Gucht said about the digital impact http://acta.ffii.org/wordpress/?p=129 #acta #internet #filteringOct 22 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I just discovered why i've been so zombie-ish lately. I haven't listed to music in over 3 days. How could I forget about that?Oct 22 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I don't believe that any of you are actually insult bots. Except possibly for lefty.Oct 22 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: How Intellectual Property Hampers Capitalism - http://bit.ly/9cSCwz transcript of fine lecture by Stephan Kinsella #mustreadOct 22 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] #X11R6: "Identicats unite! ending sentences with That sounds hot."Oct 22 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Barnes and Noble Nook is color and running Android - http://bit.ly/bGVs0P could be interesting #ebooks #androidOct 22 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Dear #EC2 … I'd like for “Get System Log” to actually SHOW me a frigging system log!Oct 22 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] For those of you asking about ebooks & economics, here's how an entire comic being pirated on 4chan affected its sales: http://ur1.ca/25awnOct 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Exista un apel de 25.000 de euro pentru achizitie de calculatoare si abonamente la internet de banda larga.Oct 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] And here's the backstory to how that happened - http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9067Oct 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Sunt premise sa gasim alte activitati pt SNR. In 6 luni ar trebui sa incheiem procesul de restructurare pentru SNR.Oct 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @MCSIRomania: Ministrul Comunicatiilor: Posta Romana va fi restructurata si modernizata pana in 2013.Oct 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPAA Urges Japan to Adopt “Three-Strikes” - http://bit.ly/9LcGQg evangelising the war on digital sharing #japan #3strikesOct 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @carlopiana funny isn't it? How capitalism (ab)uses state monopolies to "defend" the market in non-free ways and shouting for deregulation?Oct 22 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ch_s: LibreOffice counts one code commit every 15 minutes: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LibreOfficeOct 22 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Huge: my friend Thomas Vinje appointed to lead Clifford Chance's global antitrust group. Kudos, Thomas! :-))Oct 22 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @jwildeboer yes. This is obviously nothing new to us followers of IP mischiefs, but useful reminder to all-IP fanboys #estmodusOct 22 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @linuxweblogs: www.linuxweblogs.nl Livre is weer terug! http://goo.gl/fb/KeqfT (Livre was a Dutch Open Source Mage and community platform)Oct 22 10:01
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] ♺ @linuxweblogs: www.linuxweblogs.nl Livre is weer terug! http://goo.gl/fb/KeqfT (Livre was a Dutch Open Source Mage and community platform)Oct 22 10:02
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Livre frequently covered my Free MultiOS and FOSS4WIN projects. It was simply awesome!Oct 22 10:02
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Google Is Going Postal In Sweden http://bit.ly/a5EWSZOct 22 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Livre frequently covered my Free MultiOS and FOSS4WIN projects. It was simply awesome!Oct 22 10:03
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Golan Appealed To The Supreme Court; Important Case About The Extent Of Copyright & The Public Domain http://dlvr.it/7N1ltOct 22 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "We have to do this." Why? "We can't afford not to." Why not? "Everyone else is." So?Oct 22 10:09
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Dammit! the Mono boosters made removing the crapware in !ubuntu 10.10 pretty complicated. Is there a how-to yet?Oct 22 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Dammit! the Mono boosters made removing the crapware in !ubuntu 10.10 pretty complicated. Is there a how-to yet?Oct 22 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @Irinasandu: Firefox is #1 Again (SunSpider JS Benchmark) http://is.gd/gcuICOct 22 10:14
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Dammit! the Mono boosters made removing the crapware in #ubuntu 10.10 pretty complicated. Is there a how-to yet?Oct 22 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @comzeradd !Fedora 14 Reflects Evolution of Leading-Edge Open Source http://ur1.ca/253moOct 22 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Wow! grabbed me an issue of the German LinuxUser mag 10.10, with two DVD's. Awesome ;-)Oct 22 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Barnes and Noble Nook is color and running Android - http://bit.ly/bGVs0P could be interesting #ebooks #androidOct 22 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @carlopiana ♺ @glynmoody: How Intellectual Property Hampers Capitalism - http://bit.ly/9cSCwz transcript of fine lecture by Stephan K ...Oct 22 10:18
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Wow! grabbed me an issue of the German LinuxUser mag 10.10, with two DVD's. Awesome ;-)Oct 22 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Support Avaaz' petition against the plan for #ACTA to interfere with generic medicines: http://www.avaaz.org/en/actaOct 22 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @carlopiana: Huge: my friend Thomas Vinje appointed to lead Clifford Chance's global antitrust group. Kudos, Thomas! :-))Oct 22 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @ilpestifero: @ml2mst: how to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.10 http://is.gd/gcwHf !techrightsOct 22 10:48
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] ♺ @ilpestifero: @ml2mst: how to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.10 http://is.gd/gcwHf !techrightsOct 22 10:49
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] ♺ @ilpestifero: @ml2mst: how to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.10 http://is.gd/gcwHf #techrightsOct 22 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @carlopiana: Huge: my friend Thomas Vinje appointed to lead Clifford Chance's global antitrust group. Kudos, Thomas! :-))Oct 22 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Time to head to Mannheim. TEDx awaits. http://www.tedxrheinneckar.deOct 22 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Should s/o produce a secure operating system - would he get sued by antivir corps for anti-competitive behaviour? ;-)Oct 22 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Pictures of the Fallout: New Vegas Collector's Edition - http://ur1.ca/25bb4 - !loOct 22 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @jwildeboer: ♺ @carlopiana: Huge: my friend Thomas Vinje appointed to lead Clifford Chance's global antitrust group. Kudos, Thomas! :-))Oct 22 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 “There’s no chance that the #iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance,” Steve BallmerOct 22 11:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 Aaron Sorkin: "I was writing about a very angry & deeply misogynistic group of people" http://ur1.ca/257ce #TheSocialNetworkOct 22 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Fedora 13 sailing along http://ht.ly/19zY7WOct 22 11:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The idea to display the charging instructions on the #Kindle itself is genius... :)Oct 22 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Well I guess my !W510 will not show up today... I hate waiting...Oct 22 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram YouTube has such errors not so rarelyOct 22 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] How can we exploit and exclude people through sharing? #uhguysithinkyoumayhavemissedthepointOct 22 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu #Ubuntu has no #smolt implementation because it does it its own way, said a recent rumour (package)Oct 22 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Bigend's vehicles - http://jalopnik.com/5668960/a-vehicular-appendix-to-zero-history/galleryOct 22 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @speeddefrost Where the heck is everyone these days? Identi.ca is like a ghosttown. >> seems very active to meOct 22 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Rest if the day off. Heading to SMAU (IT fair). EnjoyOct 22 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Right, I need more digital art to review. Any recommendations? (Self-recommendation is fine but I can't promise to review anything. :-) )Oct 22 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "crazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazycrazy..."Oct 22 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] net.art, robots, interactive multimedia, digital print, generative art, you name itOct 22 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody LPI recognized by UK education authorities - http://bit.ly/9fxI5Y it's a startOct 22 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Probably http://hardware4linux.info/, but is not automatic, no cross-distro results & stats, no cross-distro packages for toolOct 22 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #IronPython and #IronRuby get kicked out into the cold by MSFT. #RIP? http://is.gd/gcCON thinks so, http://is.gd/gcCQn doesn't. We'll see ..Oct 22 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LPI recognized by UK education authorities / What's New? / About LPI / Home - LPI -  .::. Size~: 25.74 KBOct 22 11:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jeff Hardy's Blog: The End of the Beginning .::. Size~: 74.96 KBOct 22 11:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: jimmy.thinking: Leadership of IronRuby and IronPython .::. Size~: 89.16 KBOct 22 11:54
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] A nice list of legal free content http://jaimeastorga2000.blogspot.com/2010/02/legally-free-content.htmlOct 22 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jaime's Corner: Legally Free Content .::. Size~: 44.13 KBOct 22 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Having a common ( #Fedora / #Debian) hardware profiler, reliable, would be IMMENSELY beneficial to all parties.Oct 22 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @schestowitz: Also having hardware profiles and results in a common formatOct 22 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer funny isn't it? How capitalism (ab)uses state monopolies to "defend" the market in non-free ways and shouting 4 deregulation?Oct 22 12:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pmate: Stop the Internet blacklist, sign the petition: http://ur1.ca/258dx !fsfe !debian !debianizzatiOct 22 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu that's what some Fedora folks explained to CanonicalOct 22 12:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stop the Internet blacklist &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.98 KBOct 22 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] I took the "Survey For People Who Make Websites, 2010" http://j.mp/alasurvey2010Oct 22 12:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Event Apart | The Survey for People Who Make Websites 2010 .::. Size~: 8.21 KBOct 22 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ml2mst Dammit! the Mono boosters made removing the crapware in !ubuntu 10.10 pretty complicated. Is there a how-to yet?Oct 22 12:08
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] RIAA, Chamber Of Commerce: Censorship Via COICA Is Okay, Because Other Countries Censor Too http://dlvr.it/7NJsTOct 22 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RIAA, Chamber Of Commerce: Censorship Via COICA Is Okay, Because Other Countries Censor Too | Techdirt .::. Size~: 20.17 KBOct 22 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ml2mst ♺ @ilpestifero @ml2mst: how to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.10 http://is.gd/gcwHf !techrightsOct 22 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Open Sourcerer  » How to remove Mono from Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meercat .::. Size~: 71.73 KBOct 22 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Great CC-BY-SA music spotted, check out "Lanscapation" Awesome! http://www.jellehermsen.nl/Oct 22 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @robmyers Bigend's vehicles - http://jalopnik.com/5668960/a-vehicular-appendix-to-zero-history/galleryOct 22 12:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Vehicular Appendix To "Zero History" .::. Size~: 92.86 KBOct 22 12:11
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] Great CC-BY-SA music spotted, check out "Lanscapation" Awesome! http://www.jellehermsen.nl/Oct 22 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miguel de Icaza works for Microsoft now. http://blog.jimmy.schementi.com/2010/10/leadership-of-ironruby-and-ironpython.htmlOct 22 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Curses for SF authors - "may you live in the future that you have written" and "may your cautionary tale become a playbook".Oct 22 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] SilverStone Precision PS05B: Most people would agree that SilverStone cases are great. In fact, many of our most f... http://bit.ly/aMzb2cOct 22 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] SilverStone Precision PS05B Review .::. Size~: 17.76 KBOct 22 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Current art code plans: final version of draw-something, fix cybernetic artworld to run as cron jobs rather than as daemons.Oct 22 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @davidgerard A nice list of legal free content http://jaimeastorga2000.blogspot.com/2010/02/legally-free-content.htmlOct 22 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jaime's Corner: Legally Free Content .::. Size~: 44.13 KBOct 22 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst nice CC-BY-SA music. Thanks.Oct 22 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Using the !KDE Netbook Desktop http://ur1.ca/25c1d Nice lookingOct 22 12:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Using the KDE Netbook Desktop | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 42.91 KBOct 22 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Which do you find better looking, KDE Oxygen/Plasma or OS X's?Oct 22 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Hilton Hotels turning a blind eye to child sex abuse and sex tourism - @rms !foss !linux #share http://ur1.ca/25c2dOct 22 12:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HILTON HOTELS: SAY NO TO SEX TRAFFICKING .::. Size~: 52.48 KBOct 22 12:33
MinceRschestowitz: the former.Oct 22 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Amazon #Kindle 3 photo gallery: http://ur1.ca/25c40 !loOct 22 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon Kindle - Fabian A. Scherschel's Photos .::. Size~: 31.08 KBOct 22 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] It's always amazing when you *think* you discover a new web service, find your email already in use, ask it send you a password, and pop!Oct 22 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] That's what I *love* about the web -- it never forgets!Oct 22 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz it's pretty rare on my end. Flash messing up now that's pretty frequent.Oct 22 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Just seen tornado going past near EdinburghOct 22 12:49
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Giant Lab Replicates Category 3 Hurricanes http://bit.ly/9W1F41Oct 22 13:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | Giant Lab Replicates Category 3 Hurricanes .::. Size~: 50.59 KBOct 22 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac OS Lion Not More Advanced Than !GNU !Linux http://ur1.ca/25cao "Mac... appears to me like one of the least capable OSes"Oct 22 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-22: AWS Free Usage Tier I was actually surprised to find Amazon didn't have a sandpit for AWS, ... http://bit.ly/bPEXOHOct 22 13:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Mac OS Lion More Advanced Than Linux?   | Muktware .::. Size~: 21.84 KBOct 22 13:08
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schestowitzhttp://seekingalpha.com/article/231517-is-red-hat-just-like-ibm-microsoft-oracle-salesforce-and-sapOct 22 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Red Hat Just Like IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce and SAP? -- Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 97.46 KBOct 22 13:09
schestowitz"(Truth in advertising: I am a former IDG employee so I trust the reports completely. This is an exception to the rule of not believing what you read in the newspaper, or at least the technical press.) "Oct 22 13:09
schestowitzLOLOct 22 13:09
schestowitzBryon is still such a toolOct 22 13:09
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] The Free Nouveau driver kicks the sh00t out of the Nvidia proprietary binary blob. Nouveau gets the screen resolution right! !gnu !linuxOct 22 13:09
MinceRlolOct 22 13:09
schestowitzI used to annoy him with my postsOct 22 13:09
schestowitzI exposed him for the IDC connectionOct 22 13:10
schestowitzAnd then he started a series of posts about meOct 22 13:10
schestowitzHe hates FOSS stuffOct 22 13:10
schestowitzAnd he's one of those who write about it because he doesn't like itOct 22 13:10
schestowitzHe has been away from sight for about a year, thoughOct 22 13:10
schestowitz"I reject “open source” as an enterprise-software business model or sales model category. But if it is, isn’t Red Hat the only company in it?"Oct 22 13:10
schestowitzOf course you do, DennisOct 22 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] The Free Nouveau driver kicks the sh00t out of the Nvidia proprietary binary blob. Nouveau gets the screen resolution right! !gnu !linuxOct 22 13:11
schestowitzPost recommended by 0 people so farOct 22 13:12
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schestowitz    * Carousel "  you should do some more research before you start writing such nonsense.  "Oct 22 13:12
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Lived here for 7 years, had NO IDEA Brits were so emotionally bound up in the homey wisdom of Andy Rooney!Oct 22 13:12
-TRT/#techrights-[ml2mst] The Free Nouveau driver kicks the sh00t out of the Nvidia proprietary binary blob. Nouveau gets the screen resolution right! #gnu #linuxOct 22 13:12
schestowitz    * User 65886: "Oct 22 13:12
schestowitzYes, I completely agree. Your assessment of Red Hat's business model completely misses the mark. You really should research it before publicizing comments about it. There's no excuse for such ignorance as information about how the company does business is replete on the internet, their own website and numerous trade articles.Oct 22 13:12
schestowitzWhile you are free to reject open source as a business model, you are in a small minority. Perhaps it's best you no longer an IDG employee.Oct 22 13:12
schestowitz"Oct 22 13:12
schestowitzLOLOct 22 13:12
schestowitzThat's the thingOct 22 13:13
schestowitzThese people pollute Google News with utter BSOct 22 13:13
schestowitzPoor Dennis... failing to discredit FOSS.... he uses to compare standard (Digistan) it to Taliban or somethingOct 22 13:14
schestowitz*usedOct 22 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 10 !KDE tools you need to try http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1891 Konqueror still excellentOct 22 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #angrybirds ist doch irgendwie nur #moorhuhn 2.0, oder? #hypeOct 22 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @set0s [Mono purge:] <sudo apt-get purge "mono-*" "libmono-*"> should remove it // cc @ml2mstOct 22 13:19
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schestowitz_log"Oxygen/Plasma is great, thinking about moving back to KDE as default DE. Gnome is "selfdistructing" ATM IMO :-("  http://twitter.com/#!/ml2mst/status/28396306964Oct 22 13:29
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-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Even the cab drivers're talking about him! Man, Brits LOVE that Andy Rooney! I had no idea he was living in Manchester. Musta retired.Oct 22 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having the 4th fruit tea todayOct 22 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Glen Moriarty talks about empowering open education with NIXTY, part 3 http://bit.ly/bBnAMgOct 22 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git2 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 22 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Glen Moriarty talks about empowering open education with NIXTY, part 3 | opensource.com .::. Size~: 40.53 KBOct 22 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Kernel Archives .::. Size~: 29.02 KBOct 22 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @charlietca1 Intro To Ubuntu - 19:30 http://ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/intro-to-ubuntu/ !ubuntu !xubuntuOct 22 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Public administrations in Axarquia moving to open source desktops http://ur1.ca/25cih "migration to a complete open source desktop" !LinuxOct 22 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intro to Ubuntu « Ubuntu Classroom Blog .::. Size~: 15.2 KBOct 22 13:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Public administrations in Axarquia moving to open source desktops &mdash;  .::. Size~: 30.9 KBOct 22 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox 4.0 beta 7 to get native SVG support http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/10/21/firefox-4-0-beta-7-to-get-native-svg-support/Oct 22 13:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 4.0 beta 7 to get native SVG support .::. Size~: 64.88 KBOct 22 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Pretty sad that I have New Vegas sitting here but won't have time to play it until Monday.... :/Oct 22 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @cosmologist !q "I am against !religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world." Richard #Dawkins !at ...Oct 22 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] End lock-in by suppliers says Government CIO - http://bit.ly/995Ir3 truly open standards are your friend, John... #cio #uk #openstandardsOct 22 14:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: End lock-in by suppliers says Government CIO - The Tony Collins Blog .::. Size~: 56.58 KBOct 22 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ << I've actually had need of this in the past.Oct 22 14:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Margaret Thatcher Dead Yet? .::. Size~: 4.03 KBOct 22 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] I do not know how much Wayne Rooney has to perform on the pitch now to get fans back on his side !mufcOct 22 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What da? http://80.169.147.100/ecodetectives/about_scheme.htm If you want _ECO_ improvement, tell people to drive less, dog's poo is naturalOct 22 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] If I connect an app with Twitter and it warns me that this gives it access to DMs and the ability to *tweet on my behalf*, should I let it?Oct 22 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piracy domain seizure bill gains support - http://bit.ly/b1rMFp from MPAA/RIAA; but will just isolate US from rest of Net #dns #domainsOct 22 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] SMAU is useless as hell, at least I've met a few friends.Oct 22 14:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Piracy domain seizure bill gains support | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 99.31 KBOct 22 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Rooney 2010 = Gerrard 2005 !manutd !footballOct 22 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIAA, Chamber Of Commerce: Censorship Via COICA Is Okay, Because Other Countries Censor Too - http://bit.ly/cen1DT who might say the same?Oct 22 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] From the Caf: "Once a blue, always a red, almost a blue, still a red." !mufcOct 22 14:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RIAA, Chamber Of Commerce: Censorship Via COICA Is Okay, Because Other Countries Censor Too | Techdirt .::. Size~: 35.36 KBOct 22 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Synthetic DNA makers warned of bioterrorism threats - http://bit.ly/9Mv7CM easy to circumvent #dna #syntheticbiologyOct 22 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Synthetic DNA makers warned of bioterrorism threats - life - 22 October 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 47.04 KBOct 22 14:16
schestowitz*LOL* the mobbying obviously link to the lies of another one, Jeff Gould.Oct 22 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir @jwildeboer I argued that the entire OOo CC should resign. "Vote of no confidence" Hold new elections. Let the community decideOct 22 14:18
schestowitzIt's like you can map all those people whose goal is to destory FOSS and see how they talk and link to each other, no longer successfully pretending to be observerOct 22 14:18
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Programmable Magnets http://bit.ly/c0SksFOct 22 14:19
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] Monster truck science at its finest. http://on.wsj.com/aGH63TOct 22 14:19
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Square Enix Sends C&D To Developer Creating OpenCarmageddon http://dlvr.it/7NblDOct 22 14:19
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] And the video! http://www.youtube.com/user/ibhsdotorgOct 22 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Programmable Magnets .::. Size~: 50.84 KBOct 22 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building a Giant Lab to Test Disasters - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 168.85 KBOct 22 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Square Enix Sends C&D To Developer Creating OpenCarmageddon | Techdirt .::. Size~: 26.17 KBOct 22 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China pledges to crack down on pirated software - http://bit.ly/8XGX5O "pledging" & "doing" rather different... (via @evgenymorozov) #chinaOct 22 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After about 2 years away, #mobbyist Jeff Gould aka AlexGr seems to be back to his anti-Linux crusade http://ur1.ca/25crq Watch out.Oct 22 14:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China pledges to crack down on pirated software | Digital Media - CNET News .::. Size~: 94.7 KBOct 22 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #ROTFL of the day: "SFPD Returns Seven Pounds of Marijuana to Grower" http://is.gd/gcO8eOct 22 14:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SFPD Returns Seven Pounds of Marijuana to Grower - San Francisco News - The Snitch .::. Size~: 111.41 KBOct 22 14:24
MinceR151805 -TRT:#techrights- [techdirt] Square Enix Sends C&D To Developer Creating OpenCarmageddon http://dlvr.it/7NblDOct 22 14:25
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MinceRfuck square enix.Oct 22 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Golan Appealed To The Supreme Court; Important Case About The Extent Of Copyright & The Public Domain - http://bit.ly/db9VfP useful analysisOct 22 14:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Golan Appealed To The Supreme Court; Important Case About The Extent Of Copyright & The Public Domain | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.71 KBOct 22 14:26
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Major WikiLeaks announcement in Europe at 10am tomorrow. LAST CHANCE to book [press only] email sunshine.booking@mail.beOct 22 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i think i found the perfect photographer, i am so excited :)Oct 22 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Electronic Data Theft More Prevalent Than Physical Thefts: Survey http://ur1.ca/25cuq Data cannot be stolen unless it gets deletedOct 22 14:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Electronic Data Theft More Prevalent Than Physical Thefts: Survey - Security from eWeek .::. Size~: 108.25 KBOct 22 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Governments want to see (and record) you naked every time you travel to reduce crash risk by .00001%? http://ur1.ca/25cw3Oct 22 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many 'crotch bombers' have ever taken down a plane?Oct 22 14:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What happened when one pilot refused to submit to "naked" backscatter scan - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 220.48 KBOct 22 14:39
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Five things President Obama can learn from Steve Jobs by @pgralla http://bit.ly/a7b7O8Oct 22 14:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five things President Obama can learn from Steve Jobs - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 59.13 KBOct 22 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mozilla's "Chromeless" project http://lwn.net/Articles/411238/rssOct 22 14:43
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schestowitzWhoring for his employers, stillOct 22 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @afromusing: You can now use M-PESA for supermarket payments: http://tinyurl.com/344e5qy (via @RatioMagazine)Oct 22 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple is st00pid. [IMG] http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1296_signs.jpgOct 22 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @mairin notice that in Europe you cannot transfer copyright US style. Over here we have Droit d'auteur - copyright bound to person.Oct 22 14:51
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Vatican:"there is excessive zeal for protecting knowledge through an unduly rigid assertion of right to IP" http://bit.ly/dBRfX6Oct 22 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Elèutheros » Statement of the Holy See at the WIPO .::. Size~: 20.9 KBOct 22 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @jwildeboer that must really suck for eu celebrities - the photographer can sell your shots no problem?Oct 22 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statement of the Holy See at the WIPO - http://bit.ly/bMxk0D "excessive zeal for protecting knowledge": amazing text (via @mgeist) #vaticanOct 22 14:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Elèutheros » Statement of the Holy See at the WIPO .::. Size~: 20.9 KBOct 22 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Raphaël Hertzog: The secret plan behind the “3.0 (quilt)” !Debian source package format http://goo.gl/Hc7oOct 22 14:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The secret plan behind the 3.0 (quilt) Debian source package format | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 49.84 KBOct 22 14:58
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Daniel Ellsberg on WikiLeaks (new) http://youtube.com/watch?v=z1pTl8KdREk http://youtube.com/watch?v=z1pTl8KdREkOct 22 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Pentagon Whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg on upcoming Iraq Wikileaks release 1 of 2   .::. Size~: 107.47 KBOct 22 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Malarial mosquitoes turning into new species - http://bit.ly/aBRy8v evolution before our eyes #malaria #evolutionOct 22 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Rooney tabloid headline predictor thread http://www.redcafe.net/f6/rooney-tabloid-headline-predictor-thread-312094/ !mufcOct 22 14:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Malarial mosquitoes turning into new species | TG Daily .::. Size~: 49.04 KBOct 22 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @carlopiana same with me, I think we must have had a similar trajectory :-)Oct 22 15:01
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Astonishing Speedup In Solving Linear SDD Systems http://bit.ly/cr551YOct 22 15:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] RT @johnsu01 Join me in opposition to the War on Sharing and sign this petition against the Internet blacklist (COICA): http://ur1.ca/25 ...Oct 22 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Nokia #N8's CA-157 also works as USB OTG cable for the aging #N810. !maemoOct 22 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In -Soviet- Communist -Russia- China, Comrade tells US what to do. http://ur1.ca/25d30Oct 22 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jobs argues for Soviet command philosophy http://ur1.ca/25d36 The red meme is back?Oct 22 15:11
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] The War on WikiLeaks | Harvard/Nieman http://bit.ly/aJCxL5Oct 22 15:16
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @linuxlibrarian: Incidently, Angry Birds is the new Frozen Bubble. It needs a boomchickabowwow soundtrack though.Oct 22 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Nouveau Now Supports Page-Flipping, Sync-To-VBlank: Recently the Nouveau power management code emerged and we rece... http://bit.ly/9IaS2COct 22 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We can repair anything" [IMG] http://consumerist.com/2010/10/verizon-charges-350-if-you-dont-do-auto-pay.htmlOct 22 15:19
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Jeep Wrangler Call of Duty Black Ops Edition http://bit.ly/cHfLO7Oct 22 15:22
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-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] The Case for Flexibility in Implementing WIPO Treaties: The Video - my talk on WIPO, C-32 & digital locks http://bit.ly/cFEwhkOct 22 15:29
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Dear Fuckerberg, Your vision of "WEB AS MALL" is repellent. I'll take the souk model as it was conceived, by better men. #facebook #kthxbaiOct 22 15:32
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] exporting California, one dysfunction at a time... #HollywoodOct 22 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] WSJ Asks: 'Who makes the best mobile operating system?' http://cli.gs/W5PMZOct 22 15:39
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Where Are the Original PC Programmers Now? http://bit.ly/cCWwKdOct 22 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] My thoughts on Apple deprecating Java: http://wp.me/H8nsOct 22 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why had Twitter worked without oauth for the past 14 hours or so?Oct 22 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz RT @qu1j0t3 “There’s no chance that the #iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance,” Steve BallmerOct 22 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris @mairin why would the subject of a photo own the copyright for it? makes no sense to meOct 22 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piracy trumps obscurity again - http://bit.ly/c6YacW book scanned on 4chan? watch sales of analogue copies take off... #abundance #scarcityOct 22 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Golan Appealed To The Supreme Court; Important Case About The Extent Of Copyright & The Public Domain - http://bit.ly/db9V ...Oct 22 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] New blog post: How to create your own home SVN repository with Xampp/Apache http://serkokatsikian.net/?p=204Oct 22 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @rcweir @jwildeboer I argued that the entire OOo CC should resign. "Vote of no confidence" Hold new elections. Let th ...Oct 22 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Piracy domain seizure bill gains support - http://bit.ly/b1rMFp from MPAA/RIAA; but will just isolate US from rest of Net ...Oct 22 15:54
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] If we're teaching kids dog poo is the problem, not #energy & overconsumption, we're completely screwed: http://ur1.ca/25de5 via @schestowitzOct 22 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The biggest threat to planet Earth is ignorance. Sadly, many people make a fortune by spreading and exploiting ignorance. Inform to help.Oct 22 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz The biggest threat to planet Earth is ignorance. Sadly, many people make a fortune by spreading and exploiting ignorance ...Oct 22 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch people: Take a stand for internet freedom. Become a Friend of @bitsoffreedom - http://bit.ly/9WQ3uh (via @OpenRightsGroup) #nlOct 22 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] First Kindle 3 impression: This thing is AMAZING! :DOct 22 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Dutch people: Take a stand for internet freedom. Become a Friend of @bitsoffreedom - http://bit.ly/9WQ3uh (via @OpenRights ...Oct 22 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 14 Reflects Evolution of Leading-Edge Open Source http://ur1.ca/253mrOct 22 16:08
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-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Is there a way to collect "Pay what you like" sums through #GoogleCheckout, or do you have to sell products at a fixed price?Oct 22 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh but still looks hideous. horrible keyboard layout...Oct 22 16:09
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Heroic Engineer Crashes Own Vehicle To Save a Life http://bit.ly/bc8GzrOct 22 16:12
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Video of full panel of copyright book launch including Geist, Haggart, Kerr, Lametti, Scassa, & Judge http://bit.ly/bkWOYpOct 22 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @webmink My thoughts on Apple deprecating Java: http://wp.me/H8nsOct 22 16:13
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-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Official blog on OSOR.eu confirms EUPL doesn't prevent implementation of patented standards, links to my blog http://bit.ly/chQEND #eifv2Oct 22 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "My father is Li Gang!" - http://bit.ly/c7GkQp a kind of satirical "I am Spartacus" meme for the Middle Kingdom... #chinaOct 22 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @johnsu01 Join me in opposition to the War on Sharing and sign this petition against the Internet blacklist (COICA): http://ur1.ca/25 ...Oct 22 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Nope. It looks very good. They keyboard doesn't bother me...Oct 22 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The "no fly list" of the Internet http://ur1.ca/25dozOct 22 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/10/2010: Linux 2.6.37 Preview, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 Beta http://ur1.ca/25dp4 !techrights #roundupOct 22 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Awesome! ♺ @smarks: Sintel music video http://ur1.ca/25dl2Oct 22 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh specs are nice. just think the keyboard takes unnecessary space. screen should have been bigger!Oct 22 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito ah I see, well hang in thereOct 22 16:28
zoobabhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-21/google-2-4-rate-shows-how-60-billion-u-s-revenue-lost-to-tax-loopholes.htmlOct 22 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad I dunno. It provides a nice space to hold it. It's also handy for searching stuff...Oct 22 16:31
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Thanks to all who replied to my #GoogleCheckout request with suggestions for kludging variable price (esp @edent http://tinyurl.com/33j73rr)Oct 22 16:32
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Recommendations For Home Virtualization? http://bit.ly/9NgH9gOct 22 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Writing together a cut version of our #Richard III script with only my appearances in my Moleskine.Oct 22 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito For us in IRC... we get some tweets for a whileOct 22 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gotta be prepared for the first whole run-through of the play tomorrow. #RichardOct 22 16:34
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Angus Files Petition, Comments on C-32 & Digital Locks - concerned about unnecessarily locking down content http://bit.ly/aNKppgOct 22 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FF Internet Freedom Fighters: @StopActaNow @ffii @zoobab @laurelrusswurm @fsf @karsten @royhugoOct 22 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @mairin actually, the US recognizes #moral_rights for works of visual art: see http://ur1.ca/25dxw Fortunately it doesn't apply to softwareOct 22 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Reported another bug in #F14: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=645836 #bugzappingOct 22 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD Catalyst 10.10 For Linux Officially Released: While users of Ubuntu 10.10 "Maverick Meerkat" have had access t... http://bit.ly/biOdYXOct 22 16:51
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] If Google TV Has To Pay To Make Hulu Available To Viewers, Will Mozilla Have To Pay To Access Hulu Via Firefox? http://dlvr.it/7NxChOct 22 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fontana those rights look great, i wish though that they applied to the subjects in those photos as well as they could be quite damaged!Oct 22 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @fontana although visual artists in the US can waive such rights in writingOct 22 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito I myself am working on my masters project, it has taken me longer than I would like.Oct 22 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @mairin see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights#United_StatesOct 22 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz HP to release a tablet with winblow$ 7 http://ur1.ca/25e4pOct 22 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] świetnie. każdy pretekst jest dobry do zapodania cenzury w necie... http://ur1.ca/25e58 !polska !poland #idiotsOct 22 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fontana oh wow, thanks for the link - this is really interesting stuff! (and likely very good for me to know :) )Oct 22 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I don't understand… Apple is trying to get us rid of two techs we ranted on for years (Flash and Java) and yet they are doing it wrong?Oct 22 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Do you believe? New today in Linux.com Store: "I Believe in Linux" mousemat. http://bit.ly/aKsVw3 #linuxOct 22 17:13
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] US Presidential Nuclear Codes 'Lost For Months' http://bit.ly/a1KwrKOct 22 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith old news :-)Oct 22 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] AstroTurf wars http://ur1.ca/25e9sOct 22 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Got it today. Guess it will blow. Wonder why HP is taking the sinking boat.Oct 22 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Yikes, I'm in England!Oct 22 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith they'll use webOS 2.0 tooOct 22 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple Makes New Enemies Among #Mozilla , Battelle, !Linux / #Android Developers http://ur1.ca/25edvOct 22 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Dutch people: Take a stand for internet freedom. Become a Friend of @bitsoffreedom - http://bit.ly/9WQ3uh (via @OpenRights ...Oct 22 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Bible.com Investor Sues Company For Lack Of Profit http://bit.ly/azAqrjOct 22 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Humm, that part I was unaware.Oct 22 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] GREASEMONKEY!!! why are you not ported to FF4 yet?! It's killing meOct 22 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Resigning from all my roles inside OpenOffice.org: http://ur1.ca/25egm http://ur1.ca/25egf #fail #openoffice #leaving #oracle #libreofficeOct 22 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito yeah it happens, I was suppose to be done in May, but got a temp job working on a project so I was very busy, so that delayed meOct 22 17:44
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Darn. I was going to write up a blog post on the #ODFPlugfest, but now I see that lwn.net has done a far better job than I would have done.Oct 22 17:49
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Physicists Say Graphene Could Create Mass http://bit.ly/9iflxOOct 22 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @laborim: crise? ♺ @Renascenca: Automóveis de luxo duplicam vendas http://dlvr.it/7NndbOct 22 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: The "no fly list" of the Internet http://ur1.ca/25dozOct 22 17:58
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Supreme Court Chief Justice Admits He Doesn't Read Online EULAs Or Other 'Fine Print' http://dlvr.it/7P48qOct 22 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] #NMBS will come with an IPhone app soon http://ur1.ca/25es8 says @dso. #iRail client for iPhone is almost ready too /cc @louisdedeckerOct 22 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Leaving OpenOffice.org: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/10/22/leaving-the-openoffice-org-project/ #docufoundation #openofficeOct 22 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is Killing Its Own ‘Open Source’ Projects as .NET Camp Loses and Resorts to Slog/FUD http://ur1.ca/25etxOct 22 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #FF Internet Freedom Fighters: @StopActaNow @ffii @zoobab @laurelrusswurm @fsf @karsten @royhugoOct 22 18:14
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Fwd: RT @gnat: @judell "DAYS SINCE LAST OVERFLOW ERROR: -32767" (via http://ff.im/ss1qz) http://ff.im/suiliOct 22 18:19
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Indian Govt now tendering the $35dollar laptop for at 1500INR. http://bit.ly/chpWOU #madness #e-wasteOct 22 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Indian Govt now tendering the $35dollar laptop for at 1500INR. http://bit.ly/chpWOU #madness #e-waste http://bit.ly/bJqK1NOct 22 18:19
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Can somebody create a Twitter list of freedom-f**kers !!Oct 22 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apparently, Linux Kernel 2.6.36 contains user noticeable improvements, but I have to admit I haven't noticed yet http://goo.gl/zDFzOct 22 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Overpopulation http://ur1.ca/25exhOct 22 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] I've lost something. Don't know if it was valuable, but I feel poorer without it. Help me (re)build my Memory Palace: http://ow.ly/2XSUuOct 22 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At rehearsals.Oct 22 18:34
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Vint Cerf Keeps Blaming Himself For IPv4 Limit http://bit.ly/c1lEElOct 22 18:36
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-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] IMPORTANT: Pentagon threatens entire world press with Espionage Act | DN http://bit.ly/amk9KUOct 22 18:42
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sebsebsebHiOct 22 18:44
WireWulfhelloOct 22 18:44
MinceRgreetingsOct 22 18:44
sebsebsebWireWulf: MinceR  olleh  sgniteergOct 22 18:46
WireWulfumm yeahOct 22 18:47
sebsebsebWireWulf: mmu haeyOct 22 18:47
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WireWulfokayOct 22 18:48
sebsebsebWireWulf: yakoOct 22 18:49
MinceRwakko and dot!Oct 22 18:49
sebsebsebMinceR: that doesn't make sense at allOct 22 18:49
WireWulfyes it doesOct 22 18:50
MinceRsebsebseb: you should watch Animaniacs.Oct 22 18:50
WireWulfyako, wacko, and dot = famous 90's cartoonsOct 22 18:50
sebsebsebesnes  sekam  sihtOct 22 18:51
sebsebsebWhy do so many people think Ubuntu is so great, when 99.5% of the programs it runs, most of the others do as well?  That really does show when doing other distros :) :DOct 22 18:52
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] As per my friend, Testing version of Debian is more stable then Ubuntu stable.Oct 22 18:52
MinceRhype.Oct 22 18:52
MinceRalso, they probably don't know other distrosOct 22 18:52
sebsebsebwell yeahOct 22 18:53
sebsebseband also that identica message that just appeared, sounds about rightOct 22 18:53
sebsebseboh that was Twitter not identicaOct 22 18:53
WireWulftwitter = a waste of timeOct 22 18:53
sebsebsebhence why more distros are basing on Debian  and distros like Mint evenOct 22 18:54
sebsebsebWireWulf: well someone else has this name on Twitter, some French person, but ah wellOct 22 18:54
sebsebsebwell some French typing personOct 22 18:54
WireWulflinHES = mytharchOct 22 18:54
sebsebsebWireWulf: uh?Oct 22 18:54
sebsebsebTwitter and Facebook are mainstreame, and so loads of stupid people use them,  people who are really stupid at computers, but also those who are stupid in general :DOct 22 18:55
sebsebsebanywayOct 22 18:55
sebsebsebidentica and such is niceOct 22 18:55
sebsebsebgeek sites :DOct 22 18:55
sebsebsebthings tend to suck when they go properly main strame, technologywiseOct 22 18:55
sebsebsebor when they start to,  or when they start trying to hmmOct 22 18:56
WireWulflinHES (fmr Knoppmyth) starting and after version 6 will be based on arch linuxOct 22 18:56
WireWulfhints archmythOct 22 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sarah Palin hates this website http://www.republicorp.us/Oct 22 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Interview with @MickiPedia on @NeighborGoods, community building, and open source dating | http://bit.ly/9IybSuOct 22 18:56
sebsebsebon the subject of Facebook thoughOct 22 18:57
sebsebsebI would like to see The Social networkOct 22 18:57
sebsebsebhowever in the cinema no not quite,  some time on TV though, sureOct 22 18:57
sebsebsebplenty of much better films that can be watched in the cinema :)Oct 22 18:59
sebsebseband I think I know what TV channel will probably have it, after a whileOct 22 19:00
WireWulfI don't watch tvOct 22 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Don't know how useful this is, but hey it's cool, you can pair Bluetooth keyboard with WebOS 2.0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCd_LbAMOf8Oct 22 19:03
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] "Buying Democracy, one Race at a time" - Sarah Palin's owners' website: http://www.republicorp.us/ (via... http://ff.im/sur7HOct 22 19:06
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Chilean Miner Copyrights Note Announcing Trapped Miners Were OK http://dlvr.it/7PBT3Oct 22 19:09
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Just wondering.... Do Chinese word processors have spell checkers? With no alphabet, can you even have spelling errors?Oct 22 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] "thanks to our company's patent-pending technological breakthroughs".For god sake, why'd it be an advantage for me if it's "patent-pending"?Oct 22 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @StopActaNow RT @jamie_love US government says that major decisions on ACTA will be made "in hours." >>hmm, that doesn't sound goodOct 22 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Hurling on Eurosport. Hurling? WTF!Oct 22 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bad enough so much culture won't get into the !publicdomain; NO WAY should any #PD works be removed & copyrighted http://ur1.ca/25f91Oct 22 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tibetan student protests spread to Beijing - http://bit.ly/av0QdU brave people #tibetan #language #chinaOct 22 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody Tibetan student protests spread to Beijing - http://bit.ly/av0QdU brave people #tibetan #language #chinaOct 22 19:18
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Close Source software which operate on Openstandards are very easy to fight and defeat. Excellent example is IE. #HTML #openOct 22 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Wknd Project: Setting up Squid on #Linux as Caching web Proxy: http://bit.ly/d6yQgW < Get in the mood w/calamari at Fri #happyhour!Oct 22 19:21
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Who Invented the Linux-Based Wireless Router? http://bit.ly/b2mrt8Oct 22 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Climate change and economic growth http://ur1.ca/25fefOct 22 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] FreeBSD Will Pay For Some KMS & GEM Love: Chris Wilson of Intel back in July had written a branch of the Intel X.O... http://bit.ly/9YLvmNOct 22 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if Rooney complained about a lack of funds / investment, and now signs for double wages, how does that help free cash for the team? !mufcOct 22 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Last day to send your nominations for the Nordic Free Software Award: http://fscons.org/award !fsf !lpOct 22 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] !Startrek time... Tonight with !coffeeOct 22 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jamie Love on What EU Must Do About ACTA - http://bit.ly/9AbNgY cc @StopActaNow @jerezim @OpenRightsGroup @doctorow @Glinner @teirdesOct 22 19:39
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] We are informed that rumors of Al Jazeera releasing WikiLeaks files are incorrect.Oct 22 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] cleaning a new !Windows PC of the vendor pre-installed bloat-ware really should be called a "digital enema" to flush all the shit outOct 22 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Jamie Love on What EU Must Do About ACTA - http://bit.ly/9AbNgY cc @StopActaNow @jerezim @OpenRightsGroup @doctorow @Glinn ...Oct 22 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mjjzf !Coffee.Oct 22 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @openattitude Sarkozy's anti-piracy agenda for France leaked. | http://ur1.ca/25fci via @TorrentFreak on TwitterOct 22 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Pentagon says it expects 'nothing new' in next Wikileaks dump. 'Nothing new' to THEM goes without saying.Oct 22 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @fureigh: If you're a #Drupal and #CiviCRM site builder (pref. in Austin) and can work on a low-budget nonprofit project, message me.Oct 22 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statement by the ASF Board on recent Java-related events - http://bit.ly/bETkqe now what? #java #apacheOct 22 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @carlopiana Hurling is great. A tense, tactical game of skill that reminds me of corporate software politics. Very compelling.Oct 22 19:56
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #Thunderbird! Thanks for successfully importing 5GB of my #Apple #Mail! \o/ #foss #winOct 22 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @webmink yeah, whatever...Oct 22 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leaving the OpenOffice.org project - http://bit.ly/bbO1Rk interesting thoughts from @ch_s #libreoffice #openoffice #oracleOct 22 20:01
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] China's Main Newspaper Complains That The iPad Is Too Damn Legal http://dlvr.it/7PGckOct 22 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Visiting #Google campus for first time. As @jra says,"this is Google,you're money's no good here". Gratis Food, beverages, snacks everywhereOct 22 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Visiting #Google campus for first time. As @jra says,"this is Google, your money's no good here". Gratis Food, beverages, snacks everywhereOct 22 20:04
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Comic Sales Soar After Artist Engages 4chan Pirates http://bit.ly/aVSrFhOct 22 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Mac Java: Gosling calls Jobs a liar: http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/steve_jobs_comments_on_appleOct 22 20:09
dyfetWell, Apple is rather rotten to it's open core...Oct 22 20:10
gnufreexI saw how Apple fanboys blasted Gosling on one of his posts earlier. He said something about Google trying to compete with Apple which is "borg-wannab-be". Apple fanboys attacked him one after other.Oct 22 20:12
gnufreexSick zealots. Church of Apple.Oct 22 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] I've got a dib0700 dvb-t stick, anyone know how to make it tune? I keep getting WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0000 and similar !linuxOct 22 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] "forks become forks only when one of the boys refuse to play ball with the others; & the Oracle team ... just did that" http://bit.ly/9i7OYIOct 22 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @schestowitz Thanks and I am glad that I finally registered about two weeks ago. I will enjoy using this website!Oct 22 20:18
sebsebsebBot was a bit slow, but yes it has done it :) ^^^^^^Oct 22 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @robmyers @andyc You could ask @evan if we can have a StatusNet instance with a post limit of 50,000 chars for NaNoWriMo...Oct 22 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hey .nl, defend freedom and privacy on the internet, become a Friend of Bits of Freedom: https://www.bof.nl/1dag1000donateurs/Oct 22 20:19
sebsebsebgnufreex MinceR  lets have you on identica as well :)Oct 22 20:20
sebsebseband ThistleWeb of course :)Oct 22 20:20
*MinceR has no time to blog or to microblogOct 22 20:21
sebsebseband jono obviouslyOct 22 20:21
sebsebsebMinceR: oh right you don't use it?Oct 22 20:21
MinceRi don't use itOct 22 20:21
sebsebsebMinceR: you got an account though?Oct 22 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @AbhinavSahai: LOL RT @_harshika Kid's dad joined facebook. Kid's status- WTF! Dad asks him, what is... http://bit.ly/bQCXxfOct 22 20:21
MinceRnopeOct 22 20:21
sebsebsebMinceR: well better sign up for one now then, or trolls might in your nameOct 22 20:21
gnufreexsebsebseb: Add me up. http://identi.ca/gnufreexOct 22 20:22
MinceRsebsebseb: do trolls have a habit of picking random nicks from here and registering them?Oct 22 20:22
sebsebsebMinceR: wellOct 22 20:22
sebsebsebMinceR: they did with meOct 22 20:23
sebsebsebsomeone didOct 22 20:23
MinceRwhat sort of public activity did you have before that?Oct 22 20:23
sebsebsebMinceR: no I may become a little bit more than just a online support person when comes to Linux, and that had been mentioned, so I guess thats all it tookOct 22 20:24
MinceRi don't quite understandOct 22 20:24
sebsebsebgnufreex: as in subscribe?Oct 22 20:24
gnufreexYes.Oct 22 20:24
sebsebsebMinceR: I am going to do something for the mageia communityOct 22 20:24
MinceRoh, i seeOct 22 20:24
sebsebsebMinceR: and thats already began, even though there isn't an ISO yetOct 22 20:24
MinceRmy concern is that if i register, people will enter their social links to me into that database, even though i have no use for that data :>Oct 22 20:26
gnufreexsebsebseb: Link your profile so I can subscribe.Oct 22 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/411266/rssOct 22 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Destitute people cannot pay fines http://ur1.ca/25fu0Oct 22 20:26
ThistleWebsebsebseb: I've been on identi.ca and twitter for agesOct 22 20:26
sebsebsebgnufreex: uhmm I just palyed with the  subscribe and unsubscribe buttons on your profile, I guess that doesn't showOct 22 20:27
sebsebsebThistleWeb: I should have got an identica quite a while ago really, or maybe notOct 22 20:27
sebsebsebsince I thought what was the piontOct 22 20:27
Ziomatrixeveryones' an advocate yeeshOct 22 20:28
ThistleWebI post to identica, which in trun posts to twitterOct 22 20:28
sebsebsebgnufreex: ok your subscribedOct 22 20:28
sebsebsebThistleWeb: some French speaking person, has this name on Twitter, and thats been since like last year, but ah wellOct 22 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Good morning Identicats! Gonna work on on getting @x11r6 hooked back up on here by the evening.Oct 22 20:29
gnufreexsebsebseb: I added you also.Oct 22 20:29
sebsebsebThistleWeb: at least I got the geek site :)Oct 22 20:29
ThistleWeblolOct 22 20:29
sebsebsebwell I am going away soonOct 22 20:30
sebsebseb,but yeah should have some Internet access when awayOct 22 20:30
sebsebseband that means I can use identica when away :DOct 22 20:30
sebsebseband IRCOct 22 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] RT @FortuneMagazine We're about to do some cool stuff w/ @hackmanagement ... keep an eye out for it!Oct 22 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @webmink "forks become forks" sounds like an esoteric discussion between cutlery fans lolOct 22 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Doug Lea resigns from the JCP, calling it a sham: http://icio.us/vaf0xuOct 22 20:34
Ziomatrixso does that mean a scholarly fellow such as myself and create an Identica account and post for Techrights? ;-)Oct 22 20:34
sebsebsebThistleWeb: anyway I am a computer geek, and also since who I am,  I hardly have any use for Facebook or Twitter at the moment, which is fine with me, they are just lame main streame sites anywayOct 22 20:35
sebsebsebThistleWeb: however identica may be like Twitter which I haven't used, but well yeah its a geek site :DOct 22 20:36
ThistleWebidnetica dn atwitter are much the same for the most partOct 22 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz What Lawsuit Larry can loose with crApple dumping Java ? Or is it just a PR stunt from Jobs ?Oct 22 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I won't use an operating system without easy-to-implement encryption http://ht.ly/19ArMlOct 22 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @popey: http://popey.com/~alan/blamepopey.png makes me smile. !lo !minecraftOct 22 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Still writing together this script. I think I'll open a red wine. Kinda fits this play.... #RichardOct 22 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Not looking good for "just wait ... Oracle's not going to hurt Sun's open source projects." Were ppl hypnotized by Ivan Ooze?Oct 22 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Wow. I wish I was there... OoOct 22 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink Doug Lea resigns from the JCP, calling it a sham: http://icio.us/vaf0xuOct 22 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @laurelrusswurm how ironicOct 22 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] 2007 Chateau des Tourelles, Cru Bourgois from the Médoc. Excellent! :) http://ur1.ca/25g2xOct 22 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] 2007 Chateau des Tourelles, Cru Bourgois from the Médoc. Excellent! :) http://ur1.ca/25g3dOct 22 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Five Reasons The Future Will Be Ruled By B.S. (Cracked): http://bit.ly/aWuSqSOct 22 20:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] new !NaNiWriMo blog post: "NaNoWriMo Is..." http://ur1.ca/25g52 !amwriting !selfPub #write #CreateSpaceOct 22 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] How Qt could bring better third-party software to Ubuntu (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/411301/rssOct 22 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Video: How To Customize Avant Window Navigator - Lucido Style http://bit.ly/9fmm1LOct 22 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Dan Rabbit’s Ambiance-themed Marlin file browser mock-up http://goo.gl/eGskOct 22 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @trashbird1240 The worst of it is, they don't see anything wrong with it.Oct 22 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Richard Branson set to open Virgin Spaceport today. http://ur1.ca/25gb5 !scienceOct 22 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] From #AppArmor's inclusion in the kernel to @OpenStack release, this wk's enterprise #linux news: http://bit.ly/abSpxAOct 22 21:21
sebsebsebgnufreex: Did you just join the Fedora group?Oct 22 21:22
gnufreexYep. sebsebsebOct 22 21:23
gnufreexWhy not?Oct 22 21:23
sebsebsebgnufreex: after seeing I joined or?Oct 22 21:23
gnufreexI just joined few groups I tihink I should join.Oct 22 21:24
gnufreexgnulinux, Fedora, RHEL, and gnuhurdOct 22 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @laurelrusswurm Who? The government or the people who leaked it?Oct 22 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @diablod3 Richard Branson signs The Sex Pistols! Oh wait, that's not news...Oct 22 21:24
gnufreexBeacause i mess with those things.Oct 22 21:24
sebsebsebgnufreex: I was just joining and leaving Fedora group, and then you appear before me on members list :D hmmOct 22 21:24
cubevectorcoincedences do happenOct 22 21:25
*sebsebseb kind of sad that I am playing with a button, I should just press join on groups and leave it at that, reallyOct 22 21:25
*gnufreex playing is fun. Oct 22 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Copyright is destroying historic audio recordings http://ur1.ca/25gcqOct 22 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @trashbird1240 the government... seems to me that anti-piracy legislation = Internet censorshipOct 22 21:28
sebsebsebgnufreex: right, but if I do it with that, and someone joins the group and stays joined before me, they get listed first or whatever, b ut doesn't matter for that anywayOct 22 21:31
gnufreexsebsebseb: Yeah, someone might say: "you are new here, you just joined today. hence I am smarter than you". But that is not important because guy saying that is dick anyways.Oct 22 21:32
hazzyhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/wikileaks-plans-major-announcement-europe/Oct 22 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Meh, I need to relax. Putting on the MC Frontalot in the headphones and playing some !Minecraft.Oct 22 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Frontalot + Minecraft = Endless AwesomenessOct 22 21:34
sebsebsebgnufreex: I think thats enough people subscribed to and groups subscribed to for now,  unless I do hmmOct 22 21:37
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sebsebsebgnufreex: to many groups that I don't really want to be part of though, and the more spam I getOct 22 21:39
sebsebsebthats the thingOct 22 21:39
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gnufreexI don't really care since I don't read all anyways.Oct 22 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Having a good Bordeaux presented by good friend Jean-Marien.Oct 22 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @sebsebseb it's very !fs oriented hereOct 22 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @johnsu01 Last day to send your nominations for the Nordic Free Software Award: http://fscons.org/award !fsf !lpOct 22 21:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: !fs as in free software I assume :)Oct 22 21:45
schestowitz_logfffyesOct 22 21:46
sebsebsebschestowitz_log: yeah theres RMS I can follow, and GNU, and so on as wellOct 22 21:47
schestowitzRMS is politicsOct 22 21:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh?Oct 22 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] What is this bullshit I found in the mail? Preparing for college? Please..Oct 22 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Unless they're fucking paying me the $10000 I need in order todo so, then they can fuck right off. I'm not that fucking rich.Oct 22 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] And don't get me started about student loans. You know how fucking long it takes to pay those fucking things back?Oct 22 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] There May Still Be Hope For R600g Supporting XvMC, VDPAU: When looking at our 2010 Linux Graphics Survey results, ... http://bit.ly/aHt39eOct 22 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] (..) Especially me? I don't even have $10 dollars right now. It's like the gov. is just laughing at me for not being rich. Well FUCK OFF.Oct 22 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Iraq war logs: secret files show how US ignored torture - http://bit.ly/bLXi6t war crimes, pure and simple: after truth, justice #iraqOct 22 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @schestowitz Yep I knowOct 22 22:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: Bot is slow to pick them upOct 22 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL !q !listening "If you're in the 80s.... Spoiler: Gay Wham!" ~ MC Frontalot, "Spoiler Alert"Oct 22 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] An evening of coding Ruby/Sinatra was replaced by poking around in MySQL. Oh what a fun life! #ThankGoodness4a57HourBreakFromWorkTillMondayOct 22 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Also, I don't feeling like browsing through a seemingly endless polluted colleege website all just to find out how much a fucking course is.Oct 22 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] If I'm paying over $5000 to learn something I can learn in my own free time, then why the fuck would I want to pay for it anyway? (..)Oct 22 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Oh what, just so I can have a pretty little certificate to hang on my wall? Fuck college. Fuck university. I'll learn whatever _I_ want to.Oct 22 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Requring a certificate saying you learned something (and payed over $5000 for) that you can easily learn on your own is fucked. (..)Oct 22 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] So If I have the same knowledge other people do, but didn't pay for it, they're somehow more entitled to getting a good job? THAT is fucked.Oct 22 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] All because they have a pretty fucking certificate hanging on their wall? Fuck anyone who thinks that makes sense. Because it doesn't.Oct 22 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] @schestowitz Maybe you have more subscriptions that me. I haven't subscribed to anybody for over a month. I should get on it ;)Oct 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Very cool that you are visiting @jra. Say hello and thanks again for the video credits. :)Oct 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] fuuuuuuu, s/that/than - fuck dell keyboardsOct 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Now !listening to Van Morrison "Tupelo Honey".Oct 22 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I'd become even more portly if I worked at #Google; can't stop passing up gratis food. Also, I had too much gratis !coffee: over-caffeinatedOct 22 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn There is no such thing.....Oct 22 22:23
hazzyhttp://slashdot.org/submission/1366802/Chinese-Govt-iPad-Sucks-Without-Pirated-MusicOct 22 22:23
hazzyLOLOct 22 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, oo much !coffee is definitely real. Don't your hands shake,concentration wane,etc.? Does for me when I have a few shots beyond usualOct 22 22:24
Diablo-D3hazzy: the review is actually quite interestingOct 22 22:25
Diablo-D3in china, they WANT you to steal movies and music from the westOct 22 22:25
hazzyWellOct 22 22:25
hazzyI figured they'd just clone one without it being locked downOct 22 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Hands shaking, no? And my concentration is mostly shot anyway as you must have noticed at GUADEC.... ;)Oct 22 22:26
Diablo-D3they couldOct 22 22:27
Diablo-D3they make it to begin withOct 22 22:27
gnufreexAlfesco is droping Hibernate becausae it is LGPL. They say they want "more freedom", probably "freedom to go propriatary" http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Alfresco-drops-LGPL-d-Hibernate-for-iBatis-1122283.htmlOct 22 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, yeah, I also grind my teeth when I've had too much caffeine. Also, slight nausea along with hand shaking & concentration.Oct 22 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Where does "Googleplex" originate?Oct 22 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Death squads in Iraq http://ur1.ca/25gwxOct 22 22:28
MinceRlolOct 22 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googolplex is the origin of the word, but obviously they spell it differently, which is a help.Oct 22 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Heh. I'd thought it had to do with the guy from the Bond films..... :DOct 22 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @evan, exactly! I'm usually good re: rationing intake,but I was tempted to try the different !coffee machines I walked by at #Google today.Oct 22 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] A still from a video, but it's still quite nice #Tornado http://ur1.ca/25gy1Oct 22 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just watched the eyePhone ep of !Futurama season 6, classOct 22 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fabsh So, you really don't remember when the main value of Google was for searching #Linux Web sites? http://ur1.ca/25h2eOct 22 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Apple has announced it's bringing the App Store to the Mac. How long until MacBooks need jailbreaking too? www.nd.gd/71 !dbd !fsf !gnu !lpOct 22 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Despite trying to stop,I keep thinking of this comment from #Conan O'Brien all day here at #Google: ur1.ca/25h3p (I tried it, you don't BTW)Oct 22 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Writing a Gtk+ UI in Lisp for my generative drawing program. I should have done this when Ed was surprised that it's command-line based...Oct 22 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Dude.... I was born in '83. I got on the bloody net in late '98. Always too late. Story of my life.... :/Oct 22 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HTML5 to make math easy (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/cmI9C5Oct 22 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Help! My girlfriend is glued to a Kindle..... OoOct 22 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn @spot So awesome if you could sort that stuff out. I love Chromium and I want it to rock in Fedora!Oct 22 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 File upload test 2. Test 1 failed! http://ur1.ca/25h6tOct 22 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Yep, compositional point positioning isn't right. Now I just need to define "right".Oct 22 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Can you ask them to fix Google Apps as an Android account email? Pretty please.... ;)Oct 22 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh,Usually my agenda w/ #Google doesn't include making their proprietary sw better. ;) I do tell them they should !FaiF all Google apps.Oct 22 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb looks like MS PaintOct 22 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @evan @bkuhn @fabsh I never get that. If I drink too much, I occasionally get a headache, but it has to be A LOTOct 22 23:09
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Viper550why. can't. nooooooooooooo-vell just let opensuse go non-profit instradOct 22 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn LOL. OK..... Forget it then..... ;)Oct 22 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @silner, I think the difference might be my default daily !coffee intake is already incredibly high. When I overdo it, I've really overdosedOct 22 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Same.Oct 22 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan See.... I'm normaly exactly like that! ;)Oct 22 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I installed Kubuntu 10.10 as secondary OS on my notebookOct 22 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Can't be higher than mine. I live on the stuff. @opensourcegeek tried to keep up and bailed immediately....Oct 22 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @popey: It's @fabsh Jim, but not as we know it! http://twitpic.com/2zwbltOct 22 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, 4 shots of espresso/day is my standard, but I *try* to keep at 3 & often FAIL. 6 shots if got too little sleep. 8 shots is overdoseOct 22 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I wonder if that would be any use... A dynamic IP daemon that uses identi.ca ...Oct 22 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I usually drink about two litres of drip coffee a day. I think...Oct 22 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] All of a sudden Nautilus scripts are taking off. Renamer looks quite useful http://ping.fm/AVrL8Oct 22 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] RT @dpic Apple has announced it's bringing the App Store to the Mac. How long until MacBooks need jailbreaking too? www.nd.gd/71Oct 22 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !q "There is a crack in everything. That's how the light comes in..." ~ Leonard Cohen on !MinecraftOct 22 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh you missed the setup for the "screw you and the horse you rode in on" reply after @jezra dissed Oy !lo !darktowerOct 22 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, 2 liters of drip !coffee is ~ 600 mg caffeine. Espresso shots are usually ~ 100 mg. Your "regular" == my "not enough sleep" amounts.Oct 22 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love how @popey said "you are such a nerd". *Off course* I am! :DOct 22 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @markey "How Qt could bring better third-party software to Ubuntu": http://tinyurl.com/ars-technica-ubuntu-qt !QtOct 22 23:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Meh. You American's can't brew coffee for shit. German coffee is just STRONGER! ;)Oct 22 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb True. Should have cursed his villanous hide....Oct 22 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Edward Hasbrouck is suing the US government http://ur1.ca/25hexOct 22 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now up for stable review: 2.6.27.55 http://bit.ly/aAyvkb 2.6.32.25 http://bit.ly/bxU96H and 2.6.35.8 http://bit.ly/bMfh0N #linux #kernelOct 22 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh he works for the Crimson King....splitterOct 22 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OpenLogic joins the Linux Foundation - Why now? - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner http://goo.gl/7uBMOct 22 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Firefox 4 edges out Chrome in SunSpider test http://goo.gl/qAUEOct 22 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Oh Discordia!Oct 22 23:59

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