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twitterSo, a year after Windows 7 rebranding of Vista, GNU/Linux is the fastest growing OS at big business.Oct 23 00:00
twitterThe Microsoft boosters claim Best OS Sales EVER, but Vista 7 is stuck in single digits at businessesOct 23 00:01
twitterMeanwhile 36% of big businesses are running gnu/linux on some of their desktopsOct 23 00:02
twitterI've updated the Vista 7 hype log http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/216759Oct 23 00:03
twitterWhen does Microsoft's quarterly report come out?  Their sales figures will be interesting to say the least.Oct 23 00:03
twitterThey really can't afford to have Vista 7 look like the flop it is.Oct 23 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Flame Popey" LOL. !lo !minecraftOct 23 00:04
twitterThey pretend there's momentum and inertia where there's nothing but a stale breeze.Oct 23 00:04
cubevectorforced salesOct 23 00:07
cubevectorby OEMsOct 23 00:07
cubevectorthat's what is keeping doze aliveOct 23 00:07
cubevectorin fact none of my customers use windows 7Oct 23 00:08
cubevectorsome are still using win2kOct 23 00:08
cubevectortotally not interested in upgradingOct 23 00:09
cubevectorand I heard something about the London Stock Exchange switching over to LinuxOct 23 00:10
cubevectorbtw I should mention that the customers who are using win2k don't bother with internet accessOct 23 00:10
cubevector"It's a distraction from work"Oct 23 00:11
twitterIf your customers are not using it, the sales are not real they are channel stuffing.Oct 23 00:13
cubevectorwell I can hardly blame them for not upgradingOct 23 00:13
cubevectorbusiness customers who use windows 7? I can't even think of one...Oct 23 00:14
cubevectorsometimes I do the odd linux upgradeOct 23 00:14
twitterjust using the service packs for XP breaks business applicationsOct 23 00:14
cubevectorsince they just have to pay for my time and no extra for the softwareOct 23 00:15
cubevectoroh and I have a couple of customers who still use win95/98Oct 23 00:15
cubevectorthey also have linux boxes thoughOct 23 00:15
twitterMicrosoft hopes this will force people to move but it really just pushes them to wipe and reload.  Wiping and reloading is what most Windows techs do, so they don't really charge for software either, ha ha.Oct 23 00:16
cubevectoryeah I don't really want to be a part of the doze worldOct 23 00:16
twitterVirtual machines are a good way to provide Windoze to people who have legacy applications.Oct 23 00:16
cubevectordefinitely starting to see more webware or whatever it's called nowadaysOct 23 00:17
twitterXP's Windows Terminal services seems to work adequately.  The inability to virualize Windows should keep business far away from Vista 7.Oct 23 00:17
cubevectortwitter, one example of win95 use: old hardware with no device drivers for win2k or newerOct 23 00:17
cubevectorthe ol' upgrade treadmill againOct 23 00:18
twitterRun both in Virtual Box or VMware and forget about it.Oct 23 00:18
cubevectorexcept for one thing...Oct 23 00:18
cubevectorthey are using very old computersOct 23 00:19
cubevectorlike pentium pro eraOct 23 00:19
twitteryou run gnu/linux on the desktop and serve it via X11 and secure shell.Oct 23 00:19
twitterthose are very easy to virtualizeOct 23 00:19
twitterand they have fewer sabotages in themOct 23 00:19
twitterspin up the virtual machine, install Windows 9x, XP whatever, copy the image for backup and you are done.Oct 23 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Como Resetar a Password de Root no MySQL: Para quem já teve o desprazer de perder sua senha de root no MySQL, ou q... http://bit.ly/9A0XAFOct 23 00:21
twitteryou can serve it to whoever needs it till the cows come home and send your pentium to the great recycling bin in the sky before it fails and sucks down the business with it.Oct 23 00:21
cubevectoruh, the win95 machines do not even have tcp/ip networking capability :)Oct 23 00:21
cubevectorso no problem thereOct 23 00:21
twitterVirtual box does not need for the OS to have networking.Oct 23 00:22
twitterand it is much easier for Virtual box to serve a NE2000 to Win95 than it is to dig up a physical card if you do need networking.Oct 23 00:22
twitterVirtualization ends the hardware end of the upgrade train.  Kills Microsoft Dead.Oct 23 00:23
cubevectorgood, I'm all for that :)Oct 23 00:23
twitterit also greatly reduces the need for Windows licenses - only a few office workers really need that crapOct 23 00:24
cubevectorI mean, for personally use I don't touch windowsOct 23 00:24
cubevectorpersonal useOct 23 00:24
twitterand they can get it in a box through the networkOct 23 00:24
cubevectortwitter, at home I have a ton of Linux boxes and one openbsd boxOct 23 00:24
twitterI'm able to do all of my work on my own free system now.  Legacy apps come to me through Windows Terminal services.Oct 23 00:25
cubevectortwitter, it's up to the customer if they want to junk the old hardwareOct 23 00:26
twitterSome of those boxes are vendor blessed and can't be touched, but the other stuff can come virtual machines.Oct 23 00:26
twitterYes, it is up to the customer.Oct 23 00:26
cubevectorthey still have some 1996 era machinesOct 23 00:27
cubevectorI guess that era had good hardware, it still worksOct 23 00:27
twitterThat is pre ACPI and there are some significant advantages to it, but it's old and won't last forever.Oct 23 00:27
cubevectorat the time it was top of the line DellOct 23 00:27
cubevectortrueOct 23 00:27
twitterSo you should experiment with virtual machines.  You should be able to combine two or three of those on some modest AMD hardware.Oct 23 00:28
cubevectoroh I will at some pointOct 23 00:28
twitterIf they want to buy a real "server" from Dell or someone, you can get them with VMWare.Oct 23 00:29
gnufreexMore Red Hat trashing. This is where Microsoft marketing dolars go http://seekingalpha.com/article/231517-is-red-hat-just-like-ibm-microsoft-oracle-salesforce-and-sapOct 23 00:29
twitterbut it might be cheaper and easier to use a nicer desktop.  GNU/Linux is GNU/LinuxOct 23 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Undoing the training to kill http://ur1.ca/25hrtOct 23 00:29
cubevectorit's been kind of a lean yearOct 23 00:31
cubevectorso less upgradesOct 23 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O Sucesso consiste em não fazer Inimigos!: Recebi essa mensagem por e-mail, achei muito interessante e agora repas... http://bit.ly/aqRxM9Oct 23 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow..... Girlfriend doesn't want to go to bed. This *never* happens. Damn Kindle! I've created a monster! OoOct 23 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow..... I need sleep though. Off.Oct 23 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Coming next: How to connect Open Office to MySQLOct 23 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Próximos capítulos: Como conectar o BR Office ao MySQLOct 23 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] #Google hangs coding tutorials above toilets (like how some restaurants hang a newspaper). I find this practice #disturbing & distracting.Oct 23 00:53
twitterlean years are good, if you can offer helpful services on the cheapOct 23 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] That's kind of sad. @x11r5 has more followers than me. =(Oct 23 00:58
oiaohmgnufreex: so you are not noticing the increased attempts to trash linux.Oct 23 01:09
oiaohmIt everywhere.Oct 23 01:09
gnufreexI am noticing.Oct 23 01:09
cubevectorit's been like that since the Halloween documents thoughOct 23 01:10
cubevectorprobably it's getting worse since Linux is doing wellOct 23 01:10
gnufreexNow is more problematic, becaue community is more diverse. Shills get some undecided people on their side.Oct 23 01:10
oiaohmThe media thrush is natural progression.Oct 23 01:11
oiaohmNothing really to worry about at this stage.Oct 23 01:11
gnufreexFor example, not all Mono apologists are paid to trash other langauges (Python, etc). They do it because they think De Icaza is right.Oct 23 01:11
gnufreexThey are missled.Oct 23 01:12
twitterheh, they need people to buy Vista 7.Oct 23 01:12
cubevectorthey're not really buying it by choiceOct 23 01:12
cubevectorthey just end up with it when they buy a new boxOct 23 01:12
cubevectorit's a multi-faceted battleOct 23 01:13
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twitterUS networks suck.Oct 23 01:17
twitterThe Microsoft boosters are desperate to reinstate the upgrade inevitability myth.  They trash everyone and praise Windows 7.Oct 23 01:18
twitter"Windows 7 has regained the momentum," what a drool festOct 23 01:19
twitterPeople terrified of change look on it lovingly.Oct 23 01:20
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twitterbut even they know, it's more of the same broken stuff.Oct 23 01:20
cubevectoryeah I've seen some of thatOct 23 01:20
twitterthey are really demoralized and no sweaty, prancing fat man on speed will be able to motivate themOct 23 01:21
twitterthe tech and performance are not there and they know itOct 23 01:21
cubevectorI wrote a review about windows 2.0 over 20 years ago... comparing to XenixOct 23 01:22
cubevectorXenix was better :)Oct 23 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] 2nd Girl Scouts Gimp class went fabulously! Martin Owens came and helped out. The girls Gimped themselves next to fav celebs :)Oct 23 01:23
twittera sharp stick in the eye might have been better than Windows 2.0Oct 23 01:23
cubevectorlolOct 23 01:24
cubevectorok, it wasn't quite that badOct 23 01:24
twitterI could feel sorry for the Microsoft people if they were not such a bunch of baby knifing control freaksOct 23 01:24
twitterPart of the Microsoft demoralization is all the work they have to do to keep up with Microsoft's ever changing garbage.Oct 23 01:25
twitterI got to talk to a tech in a heavy Microsoft shop and he agreed that people who try to keep up with it all have zero personal life.Oct 23 01:25
twitterI remembered a guy I used to see seven years ago at a coffee shop book store.Oct 23 01:26
cubevectorbtw, is there mono on bsd?Oct 23 01:26
twitterNo matter what time of day I went in there, he was there pouring over three inch think manuals for the next round of certs.Oct 23 01:26
cubevectorjust curiousOct 23 01:26
cubevectorhmm, looks like there isOct 23 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Crazies blame illegal immigration on Obama http://ur1.ca/25i7nOct 23 01:31
twitterI see some stuff, but doubt it.  Mono is mostly pushed by Microsoft people looking for mindshare, so they target popular gnu/linux OSX etc.Oct 23 01:31
twitterHere's a funny thing I saw when looking around http://www.osnews.com/comments/23935Oct 23 01:32
twitter" Because Microsoft has updated IE to support CSS3 selectors and rounded corners, they want us to believe that somehow IE9 magically supports the whole slew of CSS3 visual styling. I'm afraid it doesn't. As a matter of fact, IE9's support for CSS3 visual styling is so poor that the results are shocking."Oct 23 01:32
twitterheh, first thing that pops up in google, " No such list gnome-freebsd"Oct 23 01:33
twitterLets' have a look here.  http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/newsflash.htmlOct 23 01:34
twitter 16 September, 2004:  The BSD# Project has recently been formed on Novell Forge and is devoted to porting and maintaining the Mono .NET framework from Ximian on FreeBSD.Oct 23 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Fedora 13 updates: New kernel 2.6.34.7-61 fixes NetworkManager suspend issue http://ht.ly/19AK10Oct 23 01:36
twitterhmmm, that is all.Oct 23 01:36
twitterI see a spurt elsewhere in 2007.  I wonder if anyone in BSD land uses it.Oct 23 01:37
gnufreexThey are types who might use it.Oct 23 01:38
twitterhere's something that's just wrong.  http://www.openbsd.org/4.5_packages/amd64/mono-gnome-2.20.0p9.tgz-contents.htmlOct 23 01:38
cubevectorI'm pretty sure it's not part of the base installOct 23 01:40
cubevectorre: openbsdOct 23 01:40
twitterJust a few days ago, Miguel was talking about "OpenBSD support integrated" whatever that means.  http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Oct-06.htmlOct 23 01:41
twitterThat was right before              "A Mono Success Story of Biblical Proportions     Read David       Mitchell's experience in using Mono to reuse code between the Windows and Mac platforms.   Posted by Miguel de Icaza on 07 Oct 2010"Oct 23 01:42
twitterHoly nipple tweak, Batman!Oct 23 01:43
twitterI can't believe you only need a few hundred megabytes of framework to make something like that happen.Oct 23 01:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Digital Prism Screencast http://bit.ly/bNRaoJ after a few false starts, the introduction episode is up, enjoy :)Oct 23 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM case study on Amnesty International: http://bit.ly/aQt84l Thanx @civicactionsOct 23 01:44
ThistleWebschestowitz: the intro episode is up, if you wanna link to the ogvOct 23 01:46
twitterlet's see how easy the bible deed was, thanks to mono and C###!  "  Eventually, I designed my own interop system with Cocoa. Unlike other such efforts, such as Cocoa#, MonoTouch, and MonoMac, which focus on calling into Cocoa from .NET code, mine was focused on calling into .NET code from Objective-C code, which turned out to be a better fit for our app. After that, it was mostly a matter of re-writing the UI layer, which was a much smallOct 23 01:48
twitteroh, is that all?Oct 23 01:48
twitterno, it's not " Our Mac app is still a bit behind the Windows app in terms of functionality and performance, but there's no way we'd be even close to where we are today without the Mono project."Oct 23 01:49
twitterWow!Oct 23 01:49
gnufreexThose dudes never haeard of thing called Java.Oct 23 01:50
gnufreexOr Python.Oct 23 01:50
gnufreexOr whatever.Oct 23 01:50
twitteryeah, but what's the point anymore?Oct 23 01:54
twitterWhy would anyone care about making something run on either Mac or Windows, much less both without further effort?  Both platforms are the past.Oct 23 01:55
twitterand both are completely hostileOct 23 01:55
twitterit's so much easier just to work with free software and not have to worry about Microsoft or Apple stabbing you in the backOct 23 01:56
twitterit's also cheaperOct 23 01:57
cubevectormostly it's because a lot of people think IT skills = Microsoft skillsOct 23 01:57
twitterI think that is shifting, finally.Oct 23 01:58
twitterIn any case, if you are just trying to take care of yourself, free software is the obvious winner.Oct 23 01:59
cubevectorsureOct 23 01:59
twitterit's also a winner if you want stability for your clientsOct 23 01:59
twitterfinally, it's a winner if you don't want to have to fool with their desktops every monthOct 23 01:59
twitterI think that makes free software a winner no matter what you are talking about.  ;-)Oct 23 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Oh !Canada Post: "What Is Activism?" http://whoacanada.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/what-is-activism/ #G20 #FreeByron #cdnpoliOct 23 02:03
oiaohmAround here Linux Skills equals PBX skills.Oct 23 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] At OSCON I told Microsoft's cloud guy that supporting OpenStack was a no-brainer. They've done it, at least a bit: http://bit.ly/aQbDx2Oct 23 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] A modern day Athens http://ur1.ca/25ilvOct 23 02:31
gnufreexDe Icaza will now work on IronRuby and IronPython. Microsfot gave up on EEE, but De Icaza will do it for them instead.Oct 23 02:33
gnufreexHugunin said:Oct 23 02:35
gnufreex    “As I leave Microsoft, I'm incredibly excited to be going to work for Google. I like to build projects with small talented teams working on quick cycles driven by iterative feedback from users. I like to have a healthy relationship with Open Source code and communities, and I believe that the future lies in the cloud and the web. These things are all possible to do at Microsoft and IronPython is a testament to that. HoweverOct 23 02:35
gnufreex making that happen at Microsoft always felt like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole - which can be done but only at major cost to both the peg and the hole. I'm excited to be going somewhere that fits my natural instincts for how to build great software and has demonstrated how successful this approach can be. I'm even pretty sure that I'll grow to love Google Docs as it continues to rapidly improve through greatOct 23 02:35
gnufreex engineering combined with continuous iterative feedback.”Oct 23 02:35
gnufreexhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Microsoft-Hands-IronPython-IronRuby-to-Open-Source-Community-563604/Oct 23 02:36
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ender2070how goes itOct 23 02:46
schestowitzhttp://webmink.com/2010/10/22/links-for-2010-10-22/Oct 23 02:47
schestowitz"Apple has finally lost patience with Java and tossed it from the Mac. The update that just happened is the last they’ll bring out, and OS X Lion won’t include Java support.  "Oct 23 02:47
Diablo-D3that just means I no longer support osxOct 23 02:51
twitterWhat exactly does that mean?  Do they nuke javascript too?Oct 23 02:51
ender2070if java was there they wouldn't be able to go totalitarian on people with an app store only software policy, upcoming in future versionsOct 23 02:52
twitterah, the app store only policy.Oct 23 02:55
twitterThat will turn a lot of people off.Oct 23 02:55
ender2070coming soon to osx!Oct 23 02:55
ender2070nah people will love itOct 23 02:55
twitternot anyone I knowOct 23 02:55
ender2070they'll be able to run the software they love on their phones via their pcOct 23 02:55
ender2070apple fanboysOct 23 02:56
twitterperhaps, but they will lose the software they love on their pcs on their pcsOct 23 02:56
ender2070they'll sell that as a feature somehowOct 23 02:56
twitterpeople put up with that on their phones because they don't yet think of their phone as a computerOct 23 02:56
ender2070the apple fanboys will no doubt make excuses to put up with itOct 23 02:56
ender2070"we get a consistent UI across all our computer devices"Oct 23 02:57
twitterThe excuse is, "it does what I want"Oct 23 02:57
ender2070"from my iPhone, to my iPad to my iPC"Oct 23 02:57
twitterI'm not sure a general purpose desktop will "do what I want" even for mac fanboysOct 23 02:57
ender2070what does apple care?Oct 23 02:58
ender2070their iOS stuff is selling way more than osxOct 23 02:58
ender2070they think it'll work on the pcOct 23 02:58
twitternon free computers are not very satisfying in the first place, so apple might get away with it for some people but it won't work for their core users - design, desktop publishing and studentsOct 23 02:58
ender2070well thats not to say there won't be real apps in the PC versionOct 23 02:59
ender2070you just have to buy them on the storeOct 23 02:59
ender2070less piracy for them to worry aboutOct 23 02:59
twitteriOS sells more because there are a lot more $100 phones than there are $1,200 imacsOct 23 02:59
ender2070the cheapest iPhone without a contract is nowhere near $100Oct 23 03:00
twitterhaving a store is a nice idea, making it the only way to get software is a bad bad idea.Oct 23 03:00
ender2070we think its a bad ideaOct 23 03:00
ender2070those who want to extract cash dontOct 23 03:00
twitteryes, but I also think using OSX and other free software is a bad idea too.Oct 23 03:00
ender2070their arguement will be that its easier than buying software the normal wayOct 23 03:01
ender2070and disregard free softwareOct 23 03:01
twitterI'll bet iPhone costs Apple about $10 each.Oct 23 03:01
Diablo-D3twitter: about $24.Oct 23 03:01
twitterthanksOct 23 03:01
Diablo-D3and apple's argument failsOct 23 03:01
ender2070you dont find free software on the iphoneOct 23 03:01
Diablo-D3across all the vendors, there are more androids being sold than iphonesOct 23 03:01
Diablo-D3or hellOct 23 03:01
Diablo-D3android ANYTHING vs iphone + ipad + iTVOct 23 03:01
Diablo-D3more android is soldOct 23 03:01
ender2070yesOct 23 03:02
ender2070android is a hell of a lot better tooOct 23 03:02
Diablo-D3if I was selling app store shit, I'd target the android store firstOct 23 03:02
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ender2070i love the ironyOct 23 03:03
ender2070remember how apple started?Oct 23 03:03
ender2070I saw pirates of silicon valleyOct 23 03:03
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ender2070woz said it was quite accurate tooOct 23 03:04
twitterdamn idiot US networks.Oct 23 03:04
ender2070they started off being anti-big brotherOct 23 03:04
Diablo-D3go read revolution in the valley insteadOct 23 03:04
ender2070they accused IBM of being big brother as wellOct 23 03:04
Diablo-D3its a much better accountOct 23 03:04
ender2070ill add it to my reading listOct 23 03:05
ender2070but its still relevant my pointOct 23 03:05
ender2070now they ARE big brotherOct 23 03:05
ender2070they went from being pro hobbyist to being pro totalitarianOct 23 03:05
ender2070people even doubt the fact that the iphone takes pictures without your knowledge even though its in various news papers and was used in court to invalidate peoples whereabouts claimsOct 23 03:06
ender2070theres even a book on iphone forensics, and you can do it yourselfOct 23 03:07
twitterI was about to say that they would charge you money to unlock your device so you could install other software, but that's what an app store is.Oct 23 03:07
twitterI wonder if they will let you have a "develper" app.Oct 23 03:07
ender2070lolOct 23 03:08
ender2070yeah but you have to pay steve for itOct 23 03:08
twitterdebugger under lock and key, only people with licenses can use themOct 23 03:08
ender2070that way he can eat caviar in a solid gold canOct 23 03:08
twitterwhat kind of pervert would want to know how to make their device do what they want?  people should be happy with what his jobness thinks is coolOct 23 03:09
twitter64k apps is enough for anyone.Oct 23 03:09
twitterit's like a jet pack for your mind, you will never have to think again, just payOct 23 03:10
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ender2070apple fanboys will just ignore the bad and pretend it doesnt existOct 23 03:11
ender2070plus they make up excuses for totalitarian behaviorOct 23 03:12
ender2070often citing it as a customer serviceOct 23 03:12
oiaohmReally I have to give apple that most of the time there customer support is good.Oct 23 03:13
twitterSteve Jobs hands iFan a steaming hot turd.  "Thanks Steve, it does exactly what I want it to."Oct 23 03:13
ender2070see^^Oct 23 03:13
oiaohmBut there limitations they place on users are bad.Oct 23 03:13
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twittergood customer support is not needing it.Oct 23 03:13
oiaohmSpares for 15 to 20 year old apple machines can be still sourced threw apple.Oct 23 03:14
oiaohmYes spares still fall under customer support.Oct 23 03:14
twitterok, that's crazy but niceOct 23 03:14
twitterthey must go out and pull them from the Lisa landfillOct 23 03:14
twitterAll of the PC makers would be like that if it were not for Windows, which obsoletes hardware every three years.Oct 23 03:15
oiaohmReplacement OS disks are basically right back to the first apple machine.Oct 23 03:15
oiaohmNote not all replacements are exact replacements.Oct 23 03:16
twitterI think I have a copy of Potato somewhere.Oct 23 03:16
oiaohmSome are modern day parts with interface devices.Oct 23 03:16
twitterThat would be very nice.Oct 23 03:16
oiaohmThat is why I say I cannot fault apple customer support.Oct 23 03:16
oiaohmThere is no faults there.Oct 23 03:16
twitterI've heard that you can get faster CPUs for the iMac classic, for example, but I thought that was an aftermarket mod, not Apple.Oct 23 03:17
oiaohmProduct lock downs apple does is evil.Oct 23 03:17
oiaohmApple does provide faster cpu for iMac classicsOct 23 03:17
oiaohmDue to the fact the old cpu in them is no longer made.Oct 23 03:17
oiaohmFaster still is.Oct 23 03:18
twitterohhhhh, ahhhhh, do they also provide a LCD screen?Oct 23 03:18
twitterMore to the point, do they do this for their laptops?Oct 23 03:18
oiaohmI have never had a problem getting replacement screens for any apple laptopsOct 23 03:19
twitterTheir PPC laptops always had great battery life.  That would be even better with modern parts and the same huge battery.Oct 23 03:19
oiaohmEven 12 year old ones.Oct 23 03:19
oiaohmOk worse was a 3 months wait.Oct 23 03:19
twitterI was asking if they had an LCD replacement for their iMac classic CRT, lol.Oct 23 03:19
oiaohmThat would be called a upgrade. twitterOct 23 03:19
oiaohmAnd apple upgrades are kinda insane.Oct 23 03:19
twitterReplace the CPU, the drive, the screen, yes and it would all be nice.Oct 23 03:20
oiaohmBasically throw away everything bar the harddrive.Oct 23 03:20
oiaohmYes I do mean everything.Oct 23 03:20
twitterinsane === overpriced?Oct 23 03:20
oiaohmCase the worksOct 23 03:20
oiaohmBasically costs almost as much as a new.Oct 23 03:20
twitteroh, that's silly.Oct 23 03:20
twitterIt would be nice to have a PPC laptop, like a Tibook, with a modern processor.Oct 23 03:21
oiaohmThat is the other thing.  Some things apple does is not great for landfill.Oct 23 03:21
twitterI'm not sure they would know what to make of my HDD with Debian on it.Oct 23 03:21
oiaohmLike upgrade computer internals past a partiuclar point equals dump case.Oct 23 03:22
oiaohmThat is the other thing about apple hardware it normally some of the most Linux friendly.Oct 23 03:22
oiaohmOther than the ipod lines.Oct 23 03:22
oiaohmOk the i lines.Oct 23 03:23
oiaohmSince apple hardware other than the i lines full specs and interface information can be requested from apple and it will be provided without issue.Oct 23 03:23
oiaohmBasically apple does a lot of things right.Oct 23 03:23
oiaohmThe few things they do wrong are kinda major.Oct 23 03:23
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twitterughOct 23 03:29
ender2070see?Oct 23 03:29
ender2070LOLOct 23 03:29
ender2070he's often quiet and then apologizes for bad behaviorOct 23 03:30
twitterwell, it's time for me to go home.  gnOct 23 03:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Right wing hate mongers http://ur1.ca/25iyfOct 23 03:33
ender2070sir sane is a dickOct 23 03:38
ender2070"So out of curiosity, what would you do as a Fedora ambassador, and why do you think you’re qualified?"Oct 23 03:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh Ah, the girl has the #kindle. same stuff happened here! #monstrosity ;-)Oct 23 03:41
oiaohmender2070: I don't apologize for bad behaviorOct 23 03:57
oiaohmI don't say the apple drm acts are fine.Oct 23 03:58
oiaohmender2070: the big problem I have with you is your black and white point of view.  Just because a company is doing some things wrong.  Does not mean they are not doing some things right that others could learn from.Oct 23 03:59
oiaohmApple true customer support is good others could learn from.Oct 23 04:00
oiaohmApple DRM usage not good does not really help there customer support.Oct 23 04:00
ender2070one good thing wonOct 23 04:00
ender2070won't save themOct 23 04:01
oiaohmOf course.Oct 23 04:01
oiaohmAt least Apple has 1 good thing.  MS customer support Sux's,  The love DRM, and Hate closed source.Oct 23 04:01
ender2070plus, the prices are so high you expect good supportOct 23 04:01
oiaohmOppsOct 23 04:01
oiaohmMS hates open sourceOct 23 04:02
ender2070ms and apple are no differentOct 23 04:02
oiaohmIn some areas correct ender2070Oct 23 04:02
oiaohmOther areas not.Oct 23 04:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #bigG's 'open' platform #GoogleTV is now available (although not in code). what about !MeeGo's #ConnectedTV ?#whendoesthehurtingstopOct 23 04:03
ender2070it it was really black and white with me i'd hate google along with the rest of yoiOct 23 04:03
ender2070you*Oct 23 04:03
oiaohmApple will hand over spec sheets to hardware they design other than the DRM crap.   MS when they were design computer mice would not hand over spec sheets.Oct 23 04:04
ender2070im a google fanboy thoOct 23 04:04
ender2070i love their stuffOct 23 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] more evidence on the failure of software patents - http://the-edge.blogspot.com/2010/10/who-invented-embedded-linux-based.html #fbOct 23 04:04
oiaohmBasically MS is very closed.   Apple has been a little more open.Oct 23 04:04
ender2070google apps for domains is great, free SSL, webmail, free exchange, contact sync, etc with my pwnage.ca domainOct 23 04:05
ender2070other people with contact sync have to pay for an exchange licenseOct 23 04:05
ender2070not to mention renting a SSL certOct 23 04:05
oiaohmReally that will end.  ender2070Oct 23 04:05
oiaohmopenchange is starting to come to life.Oct 23 04:05
ender2070google might be using thatOct 23 04:06
ender2070their servers are all linuxOct 23 04:06
ender2070whatever exchange support they give you isn't really exchangeOct 23 04:06
oiaohmhttp://www.sogo.nu/english.html  Not yet.  ender2070Oct 23 04:06
ender2070its the protocolOct 23 04:06
oiaohmexchange is not the protocalOct 23 04:06
oiaohmMAPI is the protocalOct 23 04:07
ender2070actually yeah its MAPIOct 23 04:07
ender2070I remember seeing that in the google sync setupOct 23 04:07
ender2070i see it as a means to an end thoughOct 23 04:08
oiaohmLast time I looked google did not do MAPIOct 23 04:08
ender2070it does nowOct 23 04:08
ender2070you can even google sync with windows mobile phones nowOct 23 04:09
oiaohmNoOct 23 04:09
ender2070yesOct 23 04:09
oiaohmmobile phones don't use MAPIOct 23 04:09
oiaohmThey use another protocal activesyncOct 23 04:09
oiaohmMAPI is only between exchange and outlookOct 23 04:09
ender2070activesync connects to google which in turn does the syncOct 23 04:09
ender2070activesync controls when it syncs contacts, messages, etcOct 23 04:10
ender2070not a google sync apOct 23 04:10
ender2070appOct 23 04:10
ender2070I find that amusingOct 23 04:11
ender2070google is going to be stealing a lot of businessOct 23 04:11
ender2070they already are too!Oct 23 04:11
ender2070http://www.interlockit.comOct 23 04:11
oiaohmThere are a lot of Linux groupware software that support activesyncOct 23 04:11
oiaohmThe MAPI for true outlook without having to use a connector has been missing.Oct 23 04:11
ender2070I have my eye on Zafara as a replacementOct 23 04:12
ender2070but its not there yetOct 23 04:12
ender2070its still too slowOct 23 04:12
ender2070and i cant afford an SSL cert either at the momentOct 23 04:13
ender2070im not using webmail without SSLOct 23 04:13
oiaohmProblem here is openchange and samba 4 will most likely have to hit as one.Oct 23 04:16
ender2070I hope they do it soonOct 23 04:16
oiaohmWill be great day ADS on Linux and MAPIOct 23 04:16
ender2070i cant agree on ADSOct 23 04:17
oiaohmopenchange MAPI cache is useful.Oct 23 04:17
ender2070active directory sucksOct 23 04:17
oiaohmsamba4 backs to standard ldap.Oct 23 04:17
oiaohmMost key thing I want is group policies.Oct 23 04:18
ender2070lol group policiesOct 23 04:18
ender2070so you want to be totalitarian on your usersOct 23 04:18
oiaohmI use group polices for software deployment.Oct 23 04:18
ender2070even worseOct 23 04:18
ender2070lolOct 23 04:18
ender2070you know you could setup repositories to do the same tihngOct 23 04:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @laurelrusswurm watching the G20 protest videos you posted on your blog, that stuff looks straight out of little brother.Oct 23 04:19
oiaohmReally not so much.  Add a machine to network group policy lands machine then checks it self against my repoistories and installs the software.Oct 23 04:19
oiaohmOf course I could still do it the other way.Oct 23 04:20
ender2070I like how if a user has large files, it bogs down the network with redundant copyingOct 23 04:20
oiaohmWhat is manually add my repo system.Oct 23 04:20
ender2070roaming profilesOct 23 04:20
ender2070roflOct 23 04:20
ender2070poorly executedOct 23 04:20
ender2070ironicly enough novell had that one licked years before Windows 2000Oct 23 04:20
oiaohmroaming profiles I have used.  Getting the set right is possible but MS makes it down right hard.Oct 23 04:21
ender2070novell netware gave users roaming profiles and individual file storage on windows 3.11Oct 23 04:21
oiaohmIe having to disable on the wrong defaults.Oct 23 04:21
ender2070users had their own drive mapping for their personal filesOct 23 04:21
oiaohmThat there are 50 of.Oct 23 04:21
ender2070no copying of entire user profiles from the server to the local machineOct 23 04:21
ender2070and backOct 23 04:21
oiaohmThen dig out the novel book and set it up basically the same way.Oct 23 04:21
oiaohmYes You can do profile on a mapped drive under Windows.Oct 23 04:22
ender2070I mean a mapped driver for their filesOct 23 04:22
ender2070drive*Oct 23 04:22
oiaohmYepOct 23 04:22
oiaohmDo able.Oct 23 04:22
oiaohmBut lot of setting.Oct 23 04:22
oiaohmTo get from default to there.Oct 23 04:22
ender2070yeah it isOct 23 04:22
ender2070the default sucksOct 23 04:22
oiaohmMany windows detaults suxs.Oct 23 04:23
ender2070the default copies massive files if the user saves large files into their my documentsOct 23 04:23
ender2070yeahOct 23 04:23
ender2070I agree the defaults suck ballsOct 23 04:23
ender2070thats what I hate so much about windowsOct 23 04:23
ender2070among other stuffOct 23 04:23
oiaohmAnd its a lot of sanity testing work to get from the defective defaults to how it should work.Oct 23 04:24
ender2070got tired of having to fix a million settings on each reinstall (every month due to the shitty nature of windows registry, etc)Oct 23 04:24
ender2070ages agoOct 23 04:24
oiaohmOk I manage to get windows to last me about 2 to 3 years.Oct 23 04:24
ender2070I hear these days you don't have to reinstall so muchOct 23 04:24
oiaohmAt the end of that its screwed.Oct 23 04:24
oiaohmEven with windows 98 I could get 2 to 3 years.Oct 23 04:25
ender2070i cant tell in class eitherOct 23 04:25
ender2070ill believe that if you didnt install or uninstall apps oftenOct 23 04:25
oiaohmMostly because I don't install junk applications.Oct 23 04:25
ender2070or moved files around too muchOct 23 04:25
ender2070fat32 was horrible at fragmentationOct 23 04:25
oiaohmThere are a lot of crappy applications that have the idea its fine to write and write and write to registry.Oct 23 04:25
ender2070yesOct 23 04:26
ender2070and ms let themOct 23 04:26
ender2070sillyOct 23 04:26
oiaohmYep closing application ok lets rewrite settings.Oct 23 04:26
oiaohmEven if we did not change a setting lets do it anyhow.Oct 23 04:26
ender2070norton had an excellent program back thenOct 23 04:26
ender2070it used to monitor software installsOct 23 04:26
oiaohmI don't keep applications like that around.Oct 23 04:26
ender2070it would really remove the program if it left traces thereOct 23 04:26
oiaohmReally the nortons stuff ended up breaking more.Oct 23 04:27
oiaohmBecause it would remove shared reg keys.Oct 23 04:27
ender2070they used to have good stuffOct 23 04:27
ender2070before symantecOct 23 04:27
oiaohmThe evil shared registry keys.Oct 23 04:27
oiaohmReally registry should have always forbin it.Oct 23 04:27
ender2070I could see that being a problemOct 23 04:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Okay this is fucking scaring me. My sister is 19 and is a justin beiber fanatic. Somebody kill me.Oct 23 04:28
ender2070on windows CCleaner does this nowOct 23 04:28
oiaohmMost of the applciations I use are open source on windows.Oct 23 04:28
ender2070when i remove malware from a windows box I run CCleaner firstOct 23 04:28
oiaohmCCleaner I have seen that destory machines to.Oct 23 04:28
ender2070i haven'tOct 23 04:28
oiaohmYou will.Oct 23 04:28
ender2070used it on hundredsOct 23 04:28
oiaohmCCleaner has a few minor defects.Oct 23 04:29
oiaohmOne hates openofficeOct 23 04:29
ender2070i've had instances where perhaps a program stopped workingOct 23 04:29
oiaohmRemoves openoffice crash status.Oct 23 04:29
ender2070reinstalling it fixed itOct 23 04:29
oiaohmSo recovery of files no longer works.Oct 23 04:29
ender2070weirdOct 23 04:30
ender2070my customers were ms users thoughOct 23 04:30
oiaohmAlso if using openoffice intergrated with thunderbirdOct 23 04:30
ender2070hardly any good programsOct 23 04:30
oiaohmBreaks that join as well.Oct 23 04:30
oiaohmBasically customer using openoffice to its limit don't let CCleaner anywhere near it.Oct 23 04:30
ender2070my customers mostly used pirated ms office, pirated xp and pirated countless other appsOct 23 04:30
oiaohmopenoffice service startup keys destoryed those as well.Oct 23 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @speeddefrost Take revenge: Play Lady Gaga hits pretty loud!Oct 23 04:31
oiaohmNice when that is behind the customers replacement to sharepoint.Oct 23 04:31
ender2070i had very few knowledgable customers who had good softwareOct 23 04:31
oiaohmYes I got really ripped over it basically.  ender2070Oct 23 04:31
ender2070so i never ran into thatOct 23 04:31
oiaohmbleachbit is safer.Oct 23 04:32
ender2070i dont keep up anymoreOct 23 04:32
oiaohmhttp://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/Oct 23 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Jackson fights against racial profiling in UK http://ur1.ca/25jbgOct 23 04:33
ender2070to my complete surprise, ms became the best a/vOct 23 04:33
oiaohmI use bleachbit on Linux as well.Oct 23 04:33
ender2070on windowsOct 23 04:33
oiaohmReally MS aquired the company.Oct 23 04:33
oiaohmThe were a good anti-virus company before MS got there hands on them.Oct 23 04:33
ender2070yeah they got higher scores than AviraOct 23 04:33
ender2070only recently though after msOct 23 04:33
ender2070a year ago, ms was like #10Oct 23 04:34
ender2070i wonder how much money ms has to put into security essentials to make it #1Oct 23 04:35
oiaohmSophos is what is behind MS anti-virusOct 23 04:35
oiaohmDo you remember them now.  ender2070Oct 23 04:35
ender2070noepOct 23 04:35
ender2070nopeOct 23 04:35
ender2070they were never #1Oct 23 04:35
ender2070avira, nod32 were fighting for #1 before ms grabbed itOct 23 04:36
oiaohmSophos more often than not were not in compares.Oct 23 04:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] @agentsmith No use. She likes lady gaga. Ugh.Oct 23 04:36
oiaohmThe would not pay or provide free product.Oct 23 04:36
ender2070yeah see lolOct 23 04:36
ender2070I think ms should bundle its a/v with windows as a public serviceOct 23 04:37
oiaohmIts like how many compares include clamav as a base line.Oct 23 04:37
ender2070perhaps we would get less botnets trying to hack our ssh'sOct 23 04:37
oiaohmIe if you cannot do better than clamav you should not be playing.Oct 23 04:38
ender2070well clamav doesnt do good anywaysOct 23 04:38
oiaohmOn mail filtering clamav does quite well.Oct 23 04:38
ender2070at the very least, not a year and a half backOct 23 04:38
ender2070mail filtering only works if you can detect stuffOct 23 04:38
oiaohmAlso the engine at the core of clamav has changed.Oct 23 04:39
ender2070i tried replacing stuff with clamav oftenOct 23 04:39
ender2070has it changed in the last year or two?Oct 23 04:39
oiaohmIn the last year.Oct 23 04:39
ender2070ill check it outOct 23 04:39
ender2070i'd love to see it crush everythingOct 23 04:40
ender2070i prefer free softwareOct 23 04:40
oiaohmThe Bytecode Interpreter was added.Oct 23 04:40
oiaohmBasically it now can decomplie and look for deeper  patterns of trouble.Oct 23 04:41
oiaohmHeuristic was where clamav was weak.Oct 23 04:42
ender2070yesOct 23 04:42
ender2070extermely weakOct 23 04:42
ender2070thats why i couldnt use it beforeOct 23 04:42
oiaohmclamav signatures on a whole were better at detecting known that most of the others.Oct 23 04:42
ender2070@schestowitz - ever consider a techrights podcast?Oct 23 04:43
schestowitzWhat about?Oct 23 04:43
ender2070same stuff as the siteOct 23 04:43
schestowitzWithout scripting it's a rambleOct 23 04:43
oiaohmHeuristic also got boosted and logical signatures got added so allowing Heuristic signatures to be created.Oct 23 04:43
ender2070if you have an outline the ramble is minimalOct 23 04:44
oiaohmSo todays clamav is not as weak as the one you know ender2070Oct 23 04:44
ender2070oiaohm - ill revisit it and check it outOct 23 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @charlesschulz Resigning from all my roles inside OpenOffice.org: http://ur1.ca/25egm http://ur1.ca/25egfOct 23 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Yes. If we aren't careful "Big Brother" won't be fiction either. http://ur1.ca/25je0 #G20 #democracy #human_rights #freeByronOct 23 04:44
schestowitzender2070: I guess we could do that, with guests tooOct 23 04:45
schestowitzLike people from hereOct 23 04:45
ender2070sureOct 23 04:45
schestowitzIf there's interest in it...Oct 23 04:45
ender2070you would attract users I thinkOct 23 04:45
ender2070plus theres a load of materialOct 23 04:45
schestowitzI'll think about itOct 23 04:45
oiaohmMine you on mail I am using with with spamassassign as well.  So I am not just using clamav.Oct 23 04:45
ender2070not everyone likes readingOct 23 04:45
ender2070imagine taking techrights with you on the busOct 23 04:45
schestowitzNot everyone canOct 23 04:45
oiaohmBig thing I like about clamav is it low false postive rate.  ender2070Oct 23 04:45
schestowitzCar, cleaning house, etcOct 23 04:45
ender2070might not have time to read all the links, etcOct 23 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] 12 year old boy finds stack overflow in document.write() and gets $3000 bounty! #firefox http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1822116Oct 23 04:46
ender2070focus on the big stuff every week or somethingOct 23 04:46
schestowitzI thought about doing summary of links by voiceOct 23 04:46
ender2070i think it would workOct 23 04:46
schestowitzBut that was years agoOct 23 04:46
schestowitzIt's already outlinedOct 23 04:46
oiaohmhttp://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/  Now using this todo the outline automatically would really be on the side of lazy.Oct 23 04:47
ender2070if its already outlined then it'll be cakeOct 23 04:48
ender2070with guests it makes it more dynamic tooOct 23 04:48
ender2070another thing with guestsOct 23 04:48
ender2070lets say you get an email from a whistleblower, about a topicOct 23 04:49
ender2070get them on the show to explain it themselves :)Oct 23 04:49
ender2070annonymously of courseOct 23 04:49
ender2070anonymously*Oct 23 04:49
ender2070damn keyboardOct 23 04:49
schestowitzThe issue is,Oct 23 04:49
schestowitzI don't know sound engineering thingsOct 23 04:50
schestowitzLike mixing... not well anywayOct 23 04:50
ender2070audacity does it allOct 23 04:50
schestowitzI'll take a look laterOct 23 04:50
ender2070theres a book I can recommend "Secrets of Podcasting"Oct 23 04:50
schestowitzPod?Oct 23 04:50
ender2070cheap cheap, very FOSS friendlyOct 23 04:50
schestowitzAPple...Oct 23 04:50
oiaohmAnonymous does not remain that way if you have there voice.Oct 23 04:51
ender2070no podcasting doesnt have anything to do with appleOct 23 04:51
schestowitzPod doesOct 23 04:51
ender2070nah its coincidenceOct 23 04:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] The Girl Scouts learn Gimp! And so can you! http://ur1.ca/25jey #fedora #redhat #gimp #fsf #girlscoutsOct 23 04:51
schestowitzThey changed languageOct 23 04:51
schestowitzLike "goolgling"Oct 23 04:51
schestowitz /l//Oct 23 04:51
ender2070no noOct 23 04:51
ender2070nothing to do with appleOct 23 04:51
ender2070the guy who made the term doesnt even own an apple productOct 23 04:52
ender2070"Personal On Demand narrowcasting"Oct 23 04:52
schestowitzAh..Oct 23 04:52
ender2070ipod was just the most popular vehicleOct 23 04:52
ender2070and it was backronymedOct 23 04:52
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PodcastOct 23 04:53
oiaohmReally term podcast was used before they end up on ipodsOct 23 04:54
ender2070yesOct 23 04:55
ender2070ipods were just one vehicle for itOct 23 04:55
ender2070most people just assume the pod is for ipodOct 23 04:55
schestowitzDOes bkuhn know?Oct 23 04:55
schestowitzCause he avoids the term, stillOct 23 04:56
schestowitzI've just always said audiocastOct 23 04:56
ender2070might be a good idea to keep avoiding itOct 23 04:56
ender2070people will think of the ipodOct 23 04:56
ender2070netcast is another nameOct 23 04:56
schestowitzIt's like iPod endorsementOct 23 04:56
ender2070yeahOct 23 04:56
ender2070its an unintentional endorsementOct 23 04:56
schestowitzLike "IBM-compatible'Oct 23 04:57
schestowitzOr "Hoover"Oct 23 04:57
ender2070yupOct 23 04:57
schestowitz"WORD processor"Oct 23 04:57
schestowitzMany people still say things like, "did you do a powerpoint presentation?"Oct 23 04:58
schestowitzThat annoys mewOct 23 04:58
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ender2070it annoys me even more when they mean itOct 23 04:58
ender2070:)Oct 23 04:58
schestowitzIt's like asking, "did you have your Burger Kind lunch?"Oct 23 04:58
schestowitz*gOct 23 04:58
cubevectorword is just an english word :)Oct 23 04:59
cubevectorthat's as generic a term as you can getOct 23 04:59
cubevectoryou're referring to a term becoming genericizedOct 23 05:00
cubevectorbut word was already genericOct 23 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @charlesschulz Resigning from all my roles inside OpenOffice.org: http://ur1.ca/25egm http://ur1.ca/25egfOct 23 05:01
oiaohmI still remember being asked after doing a presentation to send them the power point file.Oct 23 05:01
oiaohmThe complete presentation was a PDF.Oct 23 05:02
oiaohmThen when I sent the PDF the person was wanting to find what the transitional effect I had used was.Oct 23 05:02
oiaohmNot the presitation at all.Oct 23 05:02
oiaohmPerson wondered why I was annoyed.Oct 23 05:02
cubevectorjust say it's a presentationOct 23 05:03
Diablo-D3[11:55:45] <schestowitz> Or "Hoover"Oct 23 05:04
Diablo-D3there is nothing wrong with blowjobs.Oct 23 05:04
ender2070hahahahaOct 23 05:04
schestowitzcubevector: exactlyOct 23 05:05
schestowitzI used to pressure conference organisers to not say powerpointOct 23 05:05
schestowitzAnd to allow ODFOct 23 05:05
schestowitzIn the UK it's hardOct 23 05:05
schestowitzMicrosoftlandOct 23 05:05
ender2070same in CanadaOct 23 05:06
schestowitzThey just assume all the speakers will use the same version of powerpoint and work serially, no personal laptop. Hey, who needs diversity?Oct 23 05:06
schestowitzAnd if my presentations are Web based, I can't do IEOct 23 05:07
schestowitzIt's not a browserOct 23 05:07
schestowitzIt's a malware installer that can't/couldn't do transparent PNGOct 23 05:07
schestowitz"WHY do you have to be so DIFFERENT?"Oct 23 05:07
ender2070heheOct 23 05:07
ender2070i remember my friend complaining about my use of png files on an old website I used to haveOct 23 05:08
ender2070"they dont work properly in IE"Oct 23 05:08
schestowitzThey want you to be like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpp38p431xs&feature=relatedOct 23 05:08
ender2070"dont use IE then" I saidOct 23 05:08
oiaohmhttp://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/10/22/leaving-the-openoffice-org-project/Oct 23 05:08
oiaohmNow that is a lose to Oracle.Oct 23 05:08
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cubevectorOrwell was wrong thoughOct 23 05:09
cubevectorforunatelyOct 23 05:09
ender2070?Oct 23 05:10
ender2070wrong about what exactlyOct 23 05:10
cubevectorJohn Hurt made a good Winston SmithOct 23 05:10
schestowitzcubevector: explainOct 23 05:11
cubevectorwell the Orwellian society never happenedOct 23 05:11
cubevectorno dystopiaOct 23 05:12
ender2070since when?Oct 23 05:12
ender2070it's quite orwellian right now in factOct 23 05:12
schestowitzYes, getting thereOct 23 05:13
schestowitzTimeline was offOct 23 05:13
cubevectorno thought police eitherOct 23 05:13
ender2070there is thought policeOct 23 05:13
ender2070YOUOct 23 05:13
schestowitzBrowsing historyOct 23 05:13
ender2070MEOct 23 05:13
schestowitzRecorded callOct 23 05:13
ender2070people around youOct 23 05:13
Diablo-D3even me.Oct 23 05:13
schestowitzIn the UK it's all real nowOct 23 05:13
*Diablo-D3 smacks ender2070 for thinkingOct 23 05:13
ender2070irc chat logsOct 23 05:13
ender2070isp logsOct 23 05:13
ender2070email logsOct 23 05:13
ender2070everything has a logOct 23 05:14
schestowitzRetention mandatoryOct 23 05:14
schestowitzIn the UKOct 23 05:14
cubevectorschestowitz, your own web site proves itOct 23 05:14
schestowitzAlso GPS dataOct 23 05:14
ender2070if you say something that would make you a suspected terrorist, you'll see just how orwellian things areOct 23 05:14
cubevectoryou say what you want :)Oct 23 05:14
schestowitzOr location of one's phoneOct 23 05:14
schestowitzA friend of mine who works for O2 says they must keep itOct 23 05:14
ender2070cubevector - TTC uses facial recognition nowOct 23 05:14
schestowitzSo the phone is a surveillance device too now.... it's also a phoneOct 23 05:14
cubevectornow if you disappeared, I'd be worriedOct 23 05:15
schestowitz<cubevector> you say what you want :)Oct 23 05:15
ender2070plusOct 23 05:15
schestowitzNoOct 23 05:15
schestowitzSee G20 for exampleOct 23 05:15
ender2070theres facebook, twitter, flickr, myspaceOct 23 05:15
ender2070people are giving their info awayOct 23 05:15
schestowitzThere's also "Free speech" zoneOct 23 05:15
schestowitzI.e. they limit what you can say and whereOct 23 05:15
ender2070watch what happens when the eco laws get put inOct 23 05:16
schestowitz http://ur1.ca/25de5Oct 23 05:16
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ender2070you'll be labeled a terrorist for being anti government at all, for opposing a single world government, and for being a climate scepticOct 23 05:16
ender2070among other thingsOct 23 05:17
cubevectorok, mandatory retention is bad, yesOct 23 05:17
ender2070thats the beauty with all these anti terrorism lawsOct 23 05:17
ender2070they just have to change the definition of a terrorist to anyone who doesnt follow along with itOct 23 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @dpic Apple has announced it's bringing the App Store to the Mac. How long until MacBooks need jailbreaking too? www.nd.gd/71 !dbd !f ...Oct 23 05:18
cubevectoryou want to argue there's less privacy, then yes there's less privacyOct 23 05:18
ender2070dont have to argue anythingOct 23 05:18
ender2070read some books for onceOct 23 05:18
ender2070disconnect the service on your televisionOct 23 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 "Buying Democracy, one Race at a time" - Sarah Palin's owners' website: http://www.republicorp.us/Oct 23 05:19
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ender2070you'll eventually have to leave your safety zoneOct 23 05:21
ender2070you should do it on your own terms, not when stuff happens to wake you up after its too lateOct 23 05:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Defective By Design: "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me." http://ur1.ca/25hk2 !bad #Apple !fsf !techr !fs !lpOct 23 05:24
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Diablo-D3[12:18:27] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 "Buying Democracy, one Race at a time" - Sarah Palin's owners' website: http://www.republicorp.us/Oct 23 05:30
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Diablo-D3so you rt him but not me?Oct 23 05:30
*Diablo-D3 posted that 11 hours agoOct 23 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Biodiversity Summit lacks significance http://ur1.ca/25jnvOct 23 05:33
schestowitzRMS Posted it last weekOct 23 05:41
schestowitzand @qu1j0t3 credited Diablo-D3 for the linkOct 23 05:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @wikileaks Pentagon says it expects 'nothing new' in next Wikileaks dump. 'Nothing new' to THEM goes without saying.Oct 23 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Come on #Lakers, horrible OT!Oct 23 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] I shouldn't have had that soda now I'm cold! :-|Oct 23 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink "forks become forks only when one of the boys refuse to play ball with the others..." http://bit.ly/9i7OYIOct 23 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @schestowitz RT @wikileaks Pentagon says it expects 'nothing new' in next Wikileaks dump. 'Nothing new' to THEM goes without saying.Oct 23 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @_harshika Kid's dad joined facebook. Kid's status- WTF! Dad asks him, what is WTF? Kid replies, Welcome to Facebook!Oct 23 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♻ @schestowitz RT @qu1j0t3 "Buying Democracy, one Race at a time" - Sarah Palin's owners' website: http://www.republicorp.us/Oct 23 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @_harshika Kid's dad joined facebook. Kid's status- WTF! Dad asks him, what is WTF? Kid replies, Welcome to Facebook!Oct 23 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The world approaches Peak Oil and one billionaire thinks what we need is space tourism for leisure http://ur1.ca/25gb5 #space #extinctionOct 23 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @johnsu01 Last day to send your nominations for the Nordic Free Software Award: http://fscons.org/award !fsf !lpOct 23 06:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Alfesco dumps Hibernate solely because of LGPL. http://ur1.ca/25jxoOct 23 06:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] " !NaNoWriMo Is... " My first 2010 blog post http://laurelrusswurm.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/nanowrimo-is/Oct 23 06:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Strikes in France drain country of fuel http://ur1.ca/25k13Oct 23 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Alfresco redefines "freedom" now? http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Alfresco-drops-LGPL-d-Hibernate-for-iBatis-1122283.htmlOct 23 06:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz The world approaches Peak Oil and one billionaire thinks what we need is space tourism for leisure http://ur1.ca/25gb5 # ...Oct 23 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Originally, Google placed focus on !Linux search (bottom left) http://web.archive.org/web/19981202230410/http://www.google.com/Oct 23 06:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @kernellogauthor Now up for stable review:2.6.27.55 http://bit.ly/aAyvkb 2.6.32.25 http://bit.ly/bxU96H and 2.6.35.8 http://bit.ly/bMfh0NOct 23 06:46
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schestowitz[00:29] <gnufreex> More Red Hat trashing. This is where Microsoft marketing dolars go http://seekingalpha.com/article/231517-is-red-hat-just-like-ibm-microsoft-oracle-salesforce-and-sapOct 23 06:51
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schestowitzHeheOct 23 06:51
schestowitzBryon baitOct 23 06:51
schestowitzSome people don't know he's a troll yetOct 23 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ThistleWeb thanks, got the fileOct 23 07:01
schestowitzGoogle keeps picking Microsoft staff for some operationsOct 23 07:08
schestowitzNot goodOct 23 07:08
schestowitzLater on they use DirectX and stuff in Picasa..Oct 23 07:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh go luddist mode! If you only have a hammer, any solution is to hammer. ;-)Oct 23 07:11
schestowitz[02:58] <ender2070> their iOS stuff is selling way more than osxOct 23 07:12
schestowitziOS is junkOct 23 07:12
schestowitzI tried it yesterdayOct 23 07:12
schestowitzOld Palm OS does almost all the same things, just less rendering powerOct 23 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yesterday I tried the latest hypeOS (iOS). It's no better than my old Palm OS. Same multitask behaviour too. Just better hardware.Oct 23 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Tasks for tomorrow: Call oldest for his b-day; fill out and mail ballot.Oct 23 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] RT @mairin: The Girl Scouts learn Gimp! And so can you! http://ur1.ca/25jey #fedora #redhat #gimp #fsf #girlscoutsOct 23 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] What is wrong with my phoneOct 23 07:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @sagarun 12 year old boy finds stack overflow in document.write() and gets $3000 bounty! #firefox http://ur1.ca/25kbnOct 23 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Someone has just suggested that we start a !techrights audiocast. Does anyone think it's a good idea? Worth the time?Oct 23 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I think its a great idea, as Ive found out an audiocast is a big job for just one person to organize (after many delays)Oct 23 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz as long as people are willing to help out I can't see why you shouldn't do it.Oct 23 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @lovenemesis: RT @mairin The Girl Scouts learn Gimp! And so can you! http://ur1.ca/25jey #fedora #redhat #gimp #fsf #girlscoutsOct 23 07:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Paying people to get sterilized http://ur1.ca/25kdvOct 23 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes will you help?Oct 23 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @rms This has been all over the press in my local area....its a frightening and disgusting idea....Oct 23 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @smaffulli @dbd: Apple has announced it's bringing the App Store to the Mac. How long until MacBooks need jailbreaking too? www.nd.gd/71Oct 23 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @murph Take a look at http://google.com/linux No link on the main page, but it is still there.Oct 23 07:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Did you need to ask? Of course I will, it will certainly be easier working with others than on ones own!Oct 23 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz If you wish to use it, Ive even got permission for use of a track for theme tune!Oct 23 07:38
oiaohmhttp://www.monirulislam.com/general-web-desktop-application-security-news/how-to-remove-evercookie-from-firefox-3/  This is interesting.Oct 23 07:38
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schestowitzphurl: heyOct 23 07:38
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schestowitzOhOct 23 07:39
schestowitzbeat me to itOct 23 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes excellent. We'll talk about it in IRC then... can be an OpenBytes collab'Oct 23 07:39
schestowitz15 secs ago ^^Oct 23 07:39
_Goblinmorning......early bird gets worms and all that!Oct 23 07:39
_GoblinDaniel was up early and Im off, so Im about earlier than usual!Oct 23 07:40
schestowitzYou can have Mr Dee as anonymous guestOct 23 07:40
schestowitzSee if he can do press releases on the airOct 23 07:40
_Goblinlol....already toyed with that idea....Oct 23 07:40
phurlhi schestowitz nice website, good stuffOct 23 07:40
schestowitzOr face hard questions about VIsta 7Oct 23 07:40
schestowitzphurl: thanks!Oct 23 07:41
_GoblinI don't think he would accept...Oct 23 07:41
_Goblintheres alot of work Ive already done for the delayed openbytes one....Oct 23 07:41
schestowitzHe has been quiet AND...Oct 23 07:41
schestowitzHis buddy Ina Freak has left CNETOct 23 07:41
schestowitzWho would he talk to now, Mary Jo?Oct 23 07:41
_Goblinyeah I saw...Oct 23 07:41
_GoblinDe Icazza? ;)Oct 23 07:41
schestowitzNaa...Oct 23 07:41
_Goblin"You make it, I'll pimp it" - Book of Da Costa 2010Oct 23 07:42
_Goblinoh if you were considering a theme track (and wanted to use it) Tom Smith has given permission for his "I fought the troll" track to be used.Oct 23 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Give !Linux a Windows-style "Registry" http://slated.org/windows_registry_for_linux "No really, it's a joke."Oct 23 07:44
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_GoblinIve got several people willing to be interviewed....Puppy Arcade dev Scott was wanting to come on....the main delay for Openbytes Oggcast was recording the interview.....Oct 23 07:45
schestowitz_Goblin: do you know how to properly record VoIP sessions?Oct 23 07:45
_Goblinnope..Oct 23 07:45
_Goblinthats the issue I had....theres no Skype plugin either...Oct 23 07:45
schestowitzI think there's s/w for it... not so much for GNU LinuxOct 23 07:45
_GoblinI spent quite a bit of time looking for a solution....my own answer (currently) was to have the speakers near my microphone and record it that way.....quality was poor.Oct 23 07:46
schestowitzYes, expectedlyOct 23 07:47
schestowitzNot pleasant for ones with PMPs onOct 23 07:47
schestowitzLike LTTLSOct 23 07:47
schestowitzTLLTSOct 23 07:47
schestowitzLinux Tech ShowOct 23 07:47
schestowitz3 hours, poor audio qualityOct 23 07:47
oiaohmhttp://www.asterisk.org/features  I guess overkill.  schestowitzOct 23 07:47
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_GoblinIve also looked at somehow plugging my mobile into the PC...no joy....Oct 23 07:47
_Goblinand for some reason I can't record the desktop sound....otherwise I could have solved the problem immediately.....Oct 23 07:48
schestowitzI reckon PCs are bad at recording signals due to record labelsOct 23 07:48
schestowitzThough I could never find evidenceOct 23 07:48
oiaohmYou can skype call threw asteriskOct 23 07:48
schestowitzbasically, simply having a program that puts I/O into file won't be made simple.. in any OSOct 23 07:48
schestowitzCause it gives stream->file  capabilityOct 23 07:48
schestowitzFor DVD and stuff tooOct 23 07:49
oiaohmBasically I know asterisk can record voip calls perfectly.Oct 23 07:49
_Goblinoiaohm: Im looking at Asterix now! Thanks!Oct 23 07:49
schestowitzcool.Oct 23 07:49
phurlidea of the day, http://h4ck3rm1k3.posterous.com/firefox-fireoffice fireoffice, the open office plugin for firefox. just an idea....Oct 23 07:49
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oiaohmAsterix now is a version old.   _GoblinOct 23 07:50
*schestowitz to self: will post some links soon, then some posts, then catch up and look into audioOct 23 07:50
oiaohmThe new version can do more including gtalk. _GoblinOct 23 07:50
schestowitzphurl: there's something similarOct 23 07:50
schestowitzODF viewerOct 23 07:50
_GoblinIm just looking for cost at the moment......Oct 23 07:50
schestowitzGoogle Apps with Gmail does that too, to an extent, phurlOct 23 07:51
schestowitz_Goblin: I can do a news sectionOct 23 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The #digitallyopen forum is happening now in Doha, Qatar. Co-presented by @ictQATAR‎ and CC - watch it live at http://is.gd/gdR53Oct 23 07:51
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schestowitzCause I already research and collect news links anyway for TROct 23 07:51
schestowitzSo no need for outliningOct 23 07:51
phurlschestowitz lets seeOct 23 07:51
schestowitzIt's already produced anywayOct 23 07:51
phurlwell not just a viewer, but an editorOct 23 07:52
phurlsomething that is easy to installOct 23 07:52
schestowitzWhat led me to wanting to do an audiocast last year...Oct 23 07:52
_Goblinschestowitz: yep, liking that.....colour commentary and interviews/reviews with me?Oct 23 07:52
phurla repacking of oooOct 23 07:52
schestowitzI basically have all the material already and things I can say about it twice a day when I post theseOct 23 07:52
schestowitzNo editingOct 23 07:52
schestowitz_Goblin: if you sort out the thing, I'll put Skype/Ekiga onOct 23 07:53
schestowitzJust not sure how to record both sides at decent quality... might need another mic tooOct 23 07:53
oiaohmThe fun thing about asterisk is it suport conf calls.  schestowitzOct 23 07:53
oiaohmAnd recording them.Oct 23 07:53
schestowitzoiaohm: it does, buit no recordingOct 23 07:53
_Goblinschestowitz: I'm taking another look at it....if you do go back with Skype, tim.openbytesOct 23 07:53
schestowitzOhOct 23 07:53
schestowitzoiaohm: not that I know of such an optionOct 23 07:54
oiaohmasterisk is a super powerful beast.  If you could dream of a phone system doing it.  It can basically.Oct 23 07:54
oiaohmI have set up press button on sip phones before to start recording of incoming calls as well.Oct 23 07:55
oiaohmUsing asterisk.Oct 23 07:55
oiaohmBasically asterisk is the dominate business phone exchange around here.  So I have to know how to make it do all kinds of evils.Oct 23 07:56
schestowitztessier does tooOct 23 07:56
oiaohmAs I said most likely overkill for what you want todo. schestowitzOct 23 07:57
oiaohmBut if you cannot find anything else it works.Oct 23 07:57
_GoblinI think I may have found somethingOct 23 07:58
*tessier uses asterisk every dayOct 23 07:58
_Goblinhttp://atdot.ch/scr/Oct 23 07:58
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tessierSome of my clients use it also.Oct 23 07:58
tessierMy wife uses it to call Vietnam for free every night.Oct 23 07:58
tessierWe deployed a VOIP hard phone over there.Oct 23 07:58
tessierAt her mom's place.Oct 23 07:58
tessierSaves us a ton of money.Oct 23 07:58
tessierIt is a pain to configure though. :|Oct 23 07:59
tessierI actually did nothing but asterisk deployments for a while. Sold a few asterisk systems. Had to get out of it before I went mad and broke.Oct 23 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We are trying to sort out some technicalities. Might be a show for Techrights and OpenBytes soon.Oct 23 07:59
_GoblinIts looking like Asterix for me too....Oct 23 08:00
_Goblinthanks oiaohm !Oct 23 08:00
tessierAsteriskOct 23 08:00
_Goblinwell done tessier...that was a little test to see if people were paying attention!Oct 23 08:00
_Goblinyouve passedOct 23 08:00
_Goblintop of the class ;)Oct 23 08:00
schestowitz:)Oct 23 08:00
schestowitzWhat's the one with X?Oct 23 08:01
schestowitzThe comic?Oct 23 08:01
_Goblinyep!Oct 23 08:01
schestowitzAh...Oct 23 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Odd thing: Twitter has given up on its oauth-only approach... started about 30 hours ago. Old style login works fine.Oct 23 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR's implausible claim that #ACTA Article 1.2 is an allpurpose loophole, & the ramifications if true - http://bit.ly/dwkTsP US tries it onOct 23 08:01
oiaohmI have many of the comics.Oct 23 08:01
oiaohmThat is the problem.Oct 23 08:01
oiaohmI keep on typing the wrong one.Oct 23 08:01
_Goblintheres possibly some issue there.... a mental regression to my younger days....used to love Asterix...Oct 23 08:01
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oiaohmEven today they are good stories.  _GoblinOct 23 08:02
_Goblinmaybe it also determined my choice of music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lkOct 23 08:03
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_Goblinwhat I want to know is why I can't just record my desktop sounds....Oct 23 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @juditrius US govt told us #ACTA to be done within hours but EU is still trying to get patents in agt. Europe Action Needed!Oct 23 08:06
schestowitzMaybe mixer settings, _GoblinOct 23 08:06
schestowitzrecordmydesktop can record mic+screenOct 23 08:06
schestowitzphurl: I'll link to your idea in our LinksOct 23 08:07
phurltahnks schestowitzOct 23 08:10
phurlit is just an ideaOct 23 08:10
schestowitzIdeas are how things moveOct 23 08:17
schestowitzAnd how all projects are conceivedOct 23 08:17
schestowitzEarlier someone suggested we start a poscast and we might as well doOct 23 08:17
schestowitzThis IRC channel was an idea in May 2008Oct 23 08:17
schestowitzNot mineOct 23 08:17
schestowitzActually, almost all the decisions around the site came from ideas of other peopleOct 23 08:18
_Goblinschestowitz: Ive tried.....it will record every but skype....Oct 23 08:18
schestowitzWon't record skype?Oct 23 08:18
_Goblinschestowitz: nope....it records my voice....and any desktop sounds...just not skype calls.Oct 23 08:19
schestowitzHow does Linux Outlaws record?Oct 23 08:19
schestowitzoiaohm might know how to record everything that's pipes into the headphones jackOct 23 08:20
cubevectorwell the mic should also pick up sounds from your computer speakers if it's sensitive enoughOct 23 08:20
schestowitzI think it was made complicated on purposeOct 23 08:20
_Goblinschestowitz: they have a mixing desk....as do I....unfortunately I have no way to plug my phone into the desk and the PC just won't play nicely...terrible distortion....Oct 23 08:20
schestowitzcubevector: but low qualityOct 23 08:20
cubevectorwell that depends on the mic and sound cardOct 23 08:20
schestowitzYou can make the mic do output to speakersOct 23 08:20
cubevectorI use a dynamic micOct 23 08:20
schestowitzThen you just need to wear headlinesOct 23 08:20
schestowitz*Headphones evenOct 23 08:21
cubevectorthe mic will pick up any ambient noiseOct 23 08:21
cubevectore.g. speakers or you typing on the keyboardOct 23 08:22
oiaohmAgain it depends on the type of mic.Oct 23 08:22
oiaohmThe headset from dragon dicate and other duel mic noise removal systems are great.Oct 23 08:22
oiaohmYou notice reporters using duel mics as well.Oct 23 08:23
oiaohmIts noise killing.Oct 23 08:23
cubevectorwell you have to experiment a bitOct 23 08:24
oiaohmYou will also find this in blue tooth headsets for phones.Oct 23 08:24
*schestowitz tries gtkrecordmydesktopOct 23 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @juditrius US government does care if ACTA# is compliant with US law. They do not plan to enforce it. Is all about power & imposing ...Oct 23 08:24
oiaohmBasically good noise killing mike is a requirement.  schestowitzOct 23 08:25
oiaohmmike/micOct 23 08:25
schestowitzNaa...Oct 23 08:26
schestowitzgtkrecordmydesktop gets just my micOct 23 08:26
oiaohmhttp://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ This one is good for videos.Oct 23 08:26
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schestowitzNot standard audio outputOct 23 08:26
schestowitzDevice: DEFAULTOct 23 08:27
oiaohmBut its output format is flvOct 23 08:27
oiaohmgtkrecordmydesktop is configurable.Oct 23 08:27
oiaohmYou will find a noise canceling mic highly useful so you session is not ruined by someone dropping something or opening doors or other things.Oct 23 08:28
schestowitzoiaohm: we might need video tooOct 23 08:28
schestowitzCan't harmOct 23 08:28
schestowitzCan make ogv, mp3, then upload to youyube tooOct 23 08:28
oiaohmopenmeetings is designed as a netural.Oct 23 08:28
schestowitzBut what's needed is for callers/speakers to both go on fileOct 23 08:29
cubevectorgtkrecordmydesktop is OKOct 23 08:29
_Goblinjust been having a fiddle  with alsamixa......Oct 23 08:29
oiaohmopenmeetings might do both.Oct 23 08:30
_Goblinah,,,,Oct 23 08:30
_Goblinyouve given me an ideaOct 23 08:30
oiaohmBasically meeting software is what you are looking for with recording.  schestowitzOct 23 08:30
_Goblinuse "Desktop record" which does grab all sound, then strip the sound out with avidmux or similar.Oct 23 08:30
cubevectorI'm lucky, I work with a sound engineerOct 23 08:31
cubevectorjust don't have any stand for the mic yet, which is a bit of a botherOct 23 08:31
cubevectoryou can get noise and hum if things aren't grounded rightOct 23 08:31
schestowitzI just did a test callOct 23 08:31
schestowitzBut I can't recordOct 23 08:32
schestowitzIf either me of _Goblin can record, then it's a goOct 23 08:32
schestowitzHosting files is easy from TR server, I thinkOct 23 08:32
cubevectoryou're doing a conference call then?Oct 23 08:32
schestowitzWordpress.com might have limits on sizeOct 23 08:32
cubevectorhate wearing headphones all the time, but it's usually betterOct 23 08:34
_Goblinschestowitz: Do interviews need to be really included in the early eps of the show...? we can piece together our work with audacity or similar.....Oct 23 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Meeting about tiger conservation http://ur1.ca/25ktjOct 23 08:36
schestowitz_Goblin: trueOct 23 08:38
schestowitzSometimes interaction though is betterOct 23 08:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/statuses/28478088477 "Not 4 me- I've an inbox of podcasts & no time to listen. I can't listen and read or writing at same time or everything suffers"Oct 23 08:38
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schestowitzMonologues are differentOct 23 08:38
schestowitz_Goblin: did you get that show up (yet)?Oct 23 08:45
schestowitzThe one you talked about...Oct 23 08:45
_GoblinNo....for the reasons described....interview quality too poor....Oct 23 08:46
_Goblinschestowitz: my mics not too hot either, but I can remaster.Oct 23 08:46
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxine.com/story/apple-makes-new-enemies-among-mozilla-battelle-linuxandroid-developersOct 23 08:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Makes New Enemies Among Mozilla, Battelle, Linux/Android Developers   .::. Size~: 23.1 KBOct 23 08:47
_Goblinwhat annoys me is that there are skype plugins...just not for linux.Oct 23 08:47
schestowitzI know..Oct 23 08:47
schestowitzWhat do Dan and Fab use?Oct 23 08:47
_Goblinpass, but Im going to try desktop record and then see if I can strip out the soundtrack....Oct 23 08:48
_Goblin(as in desktop video record)Oct 23 08:48
_GoblinIm installing "record my desktop 0.3" now....Oct 23 08:49
_Goblinlets see if I have some better luckOct 23 08:49
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schestowitzOopsOct 23 08:58
schestowitzmsged you on identicaOct 23 08:58
schestowitzThought you had leftOct 23 08:58
schestowitzIt's just this one nut that needs cracking onceOct 23 08:59
schestowitzrehearsal should not be needed if we have the links alreadyOct 23 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes recordmydesktop lets you change input device, just not sure to whatOct 23 08:59
_Goblinyeah Ive been messing with inputOct 23 09:00
_GoblinI can now record desktop sound.....Oct 23 09:00
_Goblinbut its massively faintOct 23 09:00
_GoblinIve messed with alsamixer turning everything on max....Oct 23 09:00
_Goblinno joyOct 23 09:00
schestowitz"The post was picked up by a couple of Linux-related blogs – tuxmachines.org and techrights.org – and I got some new readers through those links." http://www.dwasifar.com/?p=1368Oct 23 09:03
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schestowitz:-)Oct 23 09:03
schestowitz_Goblin: KDE's mixer front end has lots of bottonsOct 23 09:04
schestowitzIf one can pipe output through mic2, maybe that'll be OKOct 23 09:04
_Goblinthink Ive solved it....Oct 23 09:04
_Goblinthe problem, not the issue with LinuxOct 23 09:04
_GoblinAndRecorder......an android phone call recorder.....Oct 23 09:05
_GoblinI can do the interviews on my mobileOct 23 09:05
_Goblinthat will also remove the need for people to have skype or similarOct 23 09:05
_Goblinhow about that?Oct 23 09:05
_GoblinInstalling now and going to test.....probably ring my mumOct 23 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The post was picked up by a couple of Linux-related blogs – tuxmachines.org and techrights.org.. pissed-off Mint fans" http://ur1.ca/25l0mOct 23 09:08
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schestowitz_Goblin: sounds like a solutionOct 23 09:09
_Goblinim having a test now!Oct 23 09:09
schestowitzBut what about doing hours of recording/Oct 23 09:09
schestowitz_Goblin: okOct 23 09:09
_Goblini dont think theres a time limitOct 23 09:10
schestowitzCould do a 15/30-minute show each day maybeOct 23 09:10
schestowitzWith news linksOct 23 09:10
schestowitzSUpplied in advanceOct 23 09:10
schestowitzGives an outline to run throughOct 23 09:10
_Goblini could commit to input once a weekOct 23 09:10
schestowitzMy links about policing are a source of friction.. :-/Oct 23 09:10
schestowitz_Goblin: once a week is goodOct 23 09:10
schestowitzThere's a theme tuneOct 23 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @remin Five must-have !Android #apps for network administrators !sysadmin http://ur1.ca/25kvaOct 23 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @aslam RT @remin: Stop the Internet blacklist !fsf @rms http://ur1.ca/258dxOct 23 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @j4v4m4n Pledge for funding to the Gnash project to get AVM2 support http://is.gd/gdUnD !gnu !libreplanetOct 23 09:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stop the Internet blacklist &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.98 KBOct 23 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Petter Reinholdtsen: Pledge for funding to the Gnash project to get AVM2 support .::. Size~: 7.45 KBOct 23 09:11
schestowitzbrbOct 23 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Odd thing: Twitter has given up on its oauth-only approach... started about 30 hours ago. Old style login works fine.Oct 23 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] New SopCast Player PPA Comes With Fixed Packages For Ubuntu 10.10 http://bit.ly/cShQ94Oct 23 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz RT @sagarun 12 year old boy finds stack overflow in document.write() and gets $3000 bounty! #firefox http://ur1.ca/25kbnOct 23 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @smaffulli @dbd: Apple has announced it's bringing the App Store to the Mac. How long until MacBooks need jailbreaking too? www.nd.gd/71Oct 23 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @orphen Anti-DRM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3acod93LI !gnu !debianOct 23 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @rms Strikes in France drain country of fuel http://ur1.ca/25k13Oct 23 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacker News | Mozilla pays 12-year-old San Jose boy for hunting bugs in system .::. Size~: 38.76 KBOct 23 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @laurelrusswurm Defective By Design: "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me." http://ur1.ca/25hk2 !bad #Apple !fsf ...Oct 23 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mairin The Girl Scouts learn Gimp! And so can you! http://ur1.ca/25jey #fedora #redhat #gimp #fsf #girlscoutsOct 23 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me. | DefectiveByDesign.org .::. Size~: 17.91 KBOct 23 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Girl Scouts Digital Media Class, Day 1 & Day 2 «  Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 55.89 KBOct 23 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @healthyfishrecipes iPhone 4 Reviews http://www.iPhone-Killers.com !css, !w3c, !playogg, !swxg thanks for allOct 23 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @telecomix Is the US going to get a free pass in !ACTA ? http://bit.ly/aLDKJ9 Say No to a US free pass in ACTA!!!!Oct 23 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @webmink At OSCON I told Microsoft's cloud guy that supporting OpenStack was a no-brainer. They've done it, at least a bit: http://bi ...Oct 23 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mairin @christianbryant I'm helping my !Catholic church create their bulletins using Scribus :)Oct 23 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @kattekrab !Linux Professional Institute recognized by UK education authorities http://goo.gl/Gr6e via @silnerOct 23 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @openattitude The !FSF publishes their official stance on #Apple's new Mac App Store: "Fool me once..." | DefectiveByDesign.org http: ...Oct 23 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @webupd8 Video: How To Customize Avant Window Navigator - Lucido Style http://bit.ly/9fmm1LOct 23 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @didiermisson Un rap anti-ACTA et contre le rapport Gallo (MAJ : sous-titré) http://ur1.ca/25gun (Numerama) !actaOct 23 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @quaid I know about the setting 'Send local "@" replies to Twitter'; but can #StatusNet map nicks from identi.ca to a nick in #other_ ...Oct 23 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @rms Copyright is destroying historic audio recordings http://ur1.ca/25gcqOct 23 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preview: Linux Mint 10 "Julia" GNOME (RC) http://ur1.ca/25l52 "I definitely recommend... try this one out."Oct 23 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Preview: Linux Mint 10 "Julia" GNOME (RC) .::. Size~: 67.93 KBOct 23 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Skills: The Road to Riches? http://ur1.ca/25l5d Open source software occupies half of the listOct 23 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] October 25th, 2010: His Majesty King Michael I of #Romania will be 89 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_of_Romania #monarchyOct 23 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 4 Reasons to Give Linux Mint 10 a Try http://ur1.ca/25l6a "The stable release... supported until April 2012."Oct 23 09:28
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_Goblinscrub Andrecorder.....rubbish....trying allcallrecorderOct 23 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exploring the !KDE Plasma Netbook interface http://ur1.ca/25l6f "I will present a detailed look at the features of this new interface type."Oct 23 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 25 octombrie 2010: Majestatea Sa Regele Mihai I al României va împlini 89 de ani http://tinyurl.com/yfgjjd5 #monarhie #romania #mihaiOct 23 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz 4 Reasons to Give Linux Mint 10 a Try http://ur1.ca/25l6a "The stable release... supported until April 2012."Oct 23 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Investigate the US Chamber of Commerce http://ur1.ca/25l8bOct 23 09:36
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_Goblinallcallrecorder - Fail......Oct 23 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Out of weed again. *sigh*Oct 23 09:43
schestowitzHuh?Oct 23 09:43
schestowitzhttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/67654Oct 23 09:43
schestowitzDEFEATISMOct 23 09:43
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schestowitzFrom the pseudopen source blogOct 23 09:43
schestowitz_Goblin: maybe Dan and Fab knowOct 23 09:44
schestowitzThey must be using skype or somethingOct 23 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Elementary Emerald Theme http://bit.ly/aPqNY5Oct 23 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tea Partiers Hold Fossil Fuel Industry's Views on Climate Change http://www.prwatch.org/node/9552 enemies of Planet Earth? #astroturfOct 23 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Hahahahahahaha . Amazon implement not being allowed to read a book if you promote it - http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=11950602Oct 23 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] GNU/Linux Flash complainers - Apple aren't going to install it by default on MacOS X any more either.Oct 23 09:56
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_Goblinschestowitz: I'll send them a dentOct 23 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @fabsh A quick question, would you mind letting me know what you are using to record phone calls/interviews for your podcast?Oct 23 10:04
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oiaohmReally a lot have said they are waiting until 2011.Oct 23 10:16
oiaohmReally 2011 give them choice between meego and android. schestowitzOct 23 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @iluvpclinuxos Removed all old ISOS. Starting uploading updated quarterly ISO to servers. #pclinuxosOct 23 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac, Linux security products 'for compliance', says vendor http://ur1.ca/25lgi Placebo effectOct 23 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] 3 parts confusion, 1 part rage http://ur1.ca/25liyOct 23 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] So FB now lets users create Groups. Pages already have Discussions. Notes can be linked and support comments. I #love context-awareness.Oct 23 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @schestowitz: Odd thing: Twitter has given up on its oauth-only approach... started about 30 hours ago. Old style login works fine.Oct 23 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz But doesn't seem to work for me.Oct 23 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Reported a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=645963 #bugzapping #f14Oct 23 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] EU now supports weakening of standards http://ur1.ca/25mlhOct 23 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @openbytes http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4313Oct 23 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: FOSS buddies never compete RT: @kknundy: Hacker News Jobs at http://www.hackernewsjobs.com/ @nsisodiya... http://bit.ly/cIrwrfOct 23 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @fabsh thanks very much, appreciated.Oct 23 11:43
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oiaohmReally any have an idea that the smallest linux device with two network ports is?Oct 23 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @nomalab @ziedabid Thanks! No need to throw away good hardware. Pentium II 450 MHz, 256 MB RAM. Perfectly good w/ !debian and !openbo ...Oct 23 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ruiseabra they suspended it again after 24 hours (or thereabouts). They seem to occasionally experiment.Oct 23 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] today's my b-day pahr-tay; need to play same audio in few different, albeit network-accessible places. gonna test #pulseaudio and #ampache.Oct 23 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] RD @nomalab #Mozilla pays 12-year-old $3,000 for finding critical !Firefox bug [Geek.com] http://j.mp/bLe78V < wow, #godbless !freesoftware!Oct 23 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Iran uses political vacuum to its advantage http://ur1.ca/25o5hOct 23 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @zaher: Canonical To Sue Apple? http://is.gd/ge7AQ #ubuntu !linuxOct 23 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git3 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 23 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ainda o Evento Linux 2010 http://ur1.ca/25odr eis o PDF de uma das melhores intervenções Perspectiva Jurídico-Legal FOSS http://ur1.ca/25odsOct 23 12:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the first run-through. Wish me luck!Oct 23 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 23/10/2010: Wiimote on GNU/Linux, Mint Raves http://techrights.org/2010/10/23/mint-raves/Oct 23 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Actual water has been found on the moon! http://ur1.ca/25oef #weird #nasa #cosmos1999 #nokiddingOct 23 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ‘Does the release put lives at risk?’ BBC propaganda, a ? to stay impartial? salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/17/wikileaks/Oct 23 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Latest leaks from the war in Iraq available here: http://warlogs.owni.fr/Oct 23 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Latest leaks from the war in Iraq available here: http://warlogs.owni.fr/Oct 23 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-23: Mike Shapiro Leaves Oracle Another of the key Solaris guys quits. A key figure in the devel... http://bit.ly/9jsKZiOct 23 13:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] best character for ‘repeated line’ is " ? seems if ‘ “” ’ for regular quotations, choosing " for this usage seems sensible.Oct 23 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sorted the embedding for the screencast, it's hosted on vimeo.com as well, and embedded from there http://bit.ly/chiTko !choicesOct 23 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git4 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 23 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Berlusconi out to get journalist http://ur1.ca/25op8Oct 23 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Question: what does the British "CSI" have written on their jackets?Oct 23 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Java Founder Calls Steve Jobs a Liar, Gets Attacks by Apple’s Mob http://ur1.ca/25osu #apple #bully #deception #lockinOct 23 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Everyone whom I convince to watch #Sintel loves it. What a wonderful production. http://www.sintel.org/Oct 23 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: EU now supports weakening of standards http://ur1.ca/25mlhOct 23 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Urgent: Investigate the US Chamber of Commerce http://ur1.ca/25l8bOct 23 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @fabsh SOCO, Scene of Crime Officer. at least traditionally…Oct 23 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @rms Berlusconi out to get journalist http://ur1.ca/25op8Oct 23 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh answer? "Da Rozzers" or in Scotland "The Polis" lolOct 23 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] For the hell of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-HdgPe3M38 #TornadoOct 23 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Install 10.10 from LiveCD http://tinyurl.com/28dhs8dOct 23 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Dutch !Amiga magazines scanned and published by AmigaScene: http://www.amigascene.nl/modules/news/article.php?storyid=580Oct 23 14:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] Yay! Local Gov #opendata http://ur1.ca/25owzOct 23 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] AKA "this tax demand goes against well established tax evasion practices, it's unfair that we have to pay tax" http://bbc.in/aavHhPOct 23 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] WiMax and LTE not 4G http://ur1.ca/25oxh #douchebagsOct 23 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Don't ever try to give a close relatives tech-advice. Everyone takes your advice seriously except close family. Always. #sighOct 23 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Julian Andres Klode: FAIL: Arch Linux switch python executable to Python 3 http://goo.gl/gX7QOct 23 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Matthew Helmke: Cooking for Geeks http://goo.gl/dYRFOct 23 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] A hidden subsidy for nuclear reactors http://ur1.ca/25p1yOct 23 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl "the only lies worth believing are those in the Bible" - FuturamaOct 23 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Google shelters profits overseas to keep corporate tax rate at 2.4 percent http://bit.ly/cYWjCSOct 23 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Android and Me: Gingerbread man signals pending announcement of #Android 2.3 http://goo.gl/2g7kOct 23 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Gmail vs. Zimbra Desktop 2.0 | Linux Magazine http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7889/#Oct 23 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Installing Webmin on CentOS 5.5 Tutorial | How 2 CentOS :: CentOS tutorials and Howtos http://goo.gl/O6WPOct 23 15:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @mairin The Girl Scouts learn Gimp! And so can you! http://ur1.ca/25jey #fedora #redhat #gimp #fsf #girlscoutsOct 23 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rsandu Greetings!!!Oct 23 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rsandu Gr8, never tried Scribus, but I am an InkScape FAN, big one, btw. ;-)Oct 23 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rsandu One can do almost everything with InkScape, kinda Print Shop of the new century. ;-)Oct 23 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz A TechRights kinda of a radio show would be gr8. I support this ideaOct 23 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Sintel is gr8, Shrek of the open free world ! ;-)Oct 23 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] "Security" agency might have helped with attack http://ur1.ca/25pisOct 23 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] thanks to @rrix I read some older JoT releases: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1417.html #iphoneOct 23 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @lamm: @robmyers "GNU/Linux Flash complainers" made me LOL. Complainers should read Gnash devs' Funding Plea, then donate. ur1.ca/0vikhOct 23 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] GNU Telephony Bug 1 http://bit.ly/cpPKQeOct 23 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] From Copyrights to Patents: How Software Patents Became the Top !Linux Issue http://ur1.ca/25ppw #swpats #scoOct 23 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Sintel brought a lot of happiness to many households, I try to spread the word about itOct 23 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith regarding that show, I'm exploring a collaboration on it with my friend Tim from @OpenBytes . We try to find two-way recording.Oct 23 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Testing some more Android apps re two way recording.....one of them must work...Oct 23 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @mairin The Girl Scouts learn Gimp! And so can you! http://ur1.ca/25jey #fedora #redhat #gimp #fsf #girlscoutsOct 23 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: If and how often to your knowledge has there been widespread data loss due to a weakness in Linux internet facing security?Oct 23 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How to donate bandwidth to support !Ubuntu Linux - ComputerworldUK.com http://goo.gl/aMLg [old news]Oct 23 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Moved by Freedom – Powered by Standards » Leaving the !OpenOffice project http://goo.gl/1dsWOct 23 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm just reading about "The first interoperable and Exchange compatible groupware solution" http://www.openchange.org/Oct 23 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Which of these is not a web browser? Apparently a contestant required an entire audience vote to pick an answer http://goo.gl/IbBNOct 23 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Im going to order BBS the Documentary, its only $40 dollars...whats that in UK money? £36?...looks like a great DVD set..Oct 23 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Will Canonical Sue Apple to defend Launchpad? ~ Web Upd8 http://goo.gl/lTdcOct 23 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera none I can think of without lookingOct 23 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @silner I asked the wife, she said "B" - Opera....oh dear...Oct 23 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @silner When I challenged her over the answer and Facebook...she said "Well you do browse through Facebook, Ive never heard of Opera".Oct 23 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♻ @pla1 Linux Outlaws on #GoogleTV. !LO http://ur1.ca/25ozmOct 23 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @openbytes: I did wonder if Opera was causing the confusionOct 23 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exploring Audio at !techrights http://ur1.ca/25q3z Anyone knows a Linux program for recording VoIP calls?Oct 23 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I don't know if you saw, I asked Fab and its a piece of hardware they use.....Oct 23 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Big Brother will pay you! (very little) http://ur1.ca/25q72Oct 23 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: I had to ask. I did think that if it had happened it would have been shouted from the roof tops.Oct 23 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "I guess my nForce2 chipset is too old and/or too exotic to be supported by Ubuntu's open source drivers" | Flickr http://goo.gl/XS30Oct 23 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz "Life, Linux, LaTeX Recording VoIP Phone Calls with ALSA" http://ur1.ca/25qdjOct 23 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I heard a local on the news this morning saying he would not take his yacht so close to the land, probable job opening for a new sub skipperOct 23 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes see "Life, Linux, LaTeX Recording VoIP Phone Calls with ALSA" http://ur1.ca/25qdj /via @ovigiaOct 23 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz in the comments there is a better option http://ur1.ca/25qg7 also http://ff.im/sxc1MOct 23 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I took my own comp in yesterday the ICT bloke would not let me use it, had to use vista 7 instead, well there's safe.Oct 23 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] http://www.debianhelp.co.uk is gone? :( options for backup it from http://web.archive.org ??!!!Oct 23 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz That looks like a possible solution...Im off to the pub for dinner, I'll attack the issue with a BASH script after a few pints!Oct 23 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes heh. I can try that too if you want.Oct 23 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just sent a msg to Jobs commenting on the new App Store and mentioned that I read about it in !dbd. Please do the same. http://ur1.ca/25hk2Oct 23 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I learnt today: that !Empathy doesn't make a very good !Identica client. Nothing is clickable and the message IDs don't show upOct 23 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz That would be gr8. Love to read Tim's blog. Way to go, boys! ;-)Oct 23 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] On Monday some Virgin bod will be reporting the value of the trip to space free advertising from the beeb. #BBCisshiteandgettingworseOct 23 17:38
schestowitz_Goblin: http://friendfeed.com/debian/2808f9b3/flosstools-skype-call-recorder-aboutOct 23 17:38
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schestowitzhttp://patrakov.blogspot.com/2008/09/recording-sip-conversations.htmlOct 23 17:38
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/56746117#notice-57242912 "in the comments there is a better option http://ur1.ca/25qg7 also http://ff.im/sxc1M"Oct 23 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes well, @lnxwalt280 says "I hear that Audacity works for that, but I don't know the process (haven't tried it yet)."Oct 23 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Three new packages to proxy-maintain, pambase that need to be updated, OpenRC to fight with for #EC2… just another !gentoo weekend…Oct 23 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Hey, Skype has an open source tool for recording audio calls. As far as I know, only Linux has it. And it works, I testedOct 23 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia does the http://www.debianhelp.co.uk permit mirroring? Worth asking...Oct 23 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith what is it called?Oct 23 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Let me see...Oct 23 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Does anybody know if there is something that looks like #erb but uses Perl as backend? I need a new template engine for !gentoo's pambase…Oct 23 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Skype Call Recorder, records in MP3. I did some conversation with my folks here and recorded gr8.Oct 23 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Just recently it was ported to winblow$. Here's the URL http://atdot.ch/scr/Oct 23 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And download section has plenty of packages, even 4 Arch Linux. Hope you like it.Oct 23 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz In Vorbis and wav too... But I did not tinker with it a lot. Just saw it works. ;-)Oct 23 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz you mean legally? i am looking for a contact but there is only an email form :(Oct 23 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And later, u can use Audacity or Jokosher to edit the tracks... Man, it will be awesome!!!Oct 23 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Latest Examples of #Mobbyists and Failed #Microsoft Attempts to Co-opt Open Source Mind Share http://ur1.ca/25qui #swpatsOct 23 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: I need to stream with xmms from a server, can it be done? Or stuck with VLCOct 23 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes Mr. @agentsmith has posted some valuable pointersOct 23 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] We rock!!! :DOct 23 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera XMMS works with some streams protocols. Web Radios/Shoutcast works gr8Oct 23 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Listening to Libertines "What Became Of The Likely Lads" strangely the first I had heard of them was on Radio2 (work) it made an impressionOct 23 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: I just need to stream it from a LAN server and being a technopeasant I am struggling.Oct 23 18:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes with pointers from @agentsmith I got it all working. Thank also to @ovigia and @lnxwalt280Oct 23 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Underlining the fact that my Libertine moment was a few years ago.Oct 23 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @mindspillage Wish I could edit websites to add links to documents referred to, so everyone else doesn't have to go wildly hunting ...Oct 23 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith XMMS... lol enjoying unmaintained software ? (and gtk1)Oct 23 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera XMMS works as a client. You want it as a server, to make a kinda of web radio ???Oct 23 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Call me old school, but 4 me, nothing beats XMMSOct 23 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes got quiet room sorted out, let me know if you want to do the editing, I can do the recordingOct 23 18:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith true, but XMMS no longer works for meOct 23 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Gmane just became even more useful. They've added RSS feeds to their NNTP service http://gmane.org/faq.phpOct 23 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: My LAN data is on a server set to backup to a USB drive. I stream music from server in VLC but missing xmms quality badly.Oct 23 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ender2070: Don't knock it, it sounds very good.Oct 23 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Gmane just became even more useful. They've added RSS feeds to their #NNTP service http://gmane.org/faq.phpOct 23 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz fantastic! If you are happy with the recording....I can do the edits....I'll be in the IRC shortly, just helping with bedtimeOct 23 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Congrats to @kabissa http://bit.ly/b9BS6T on winning the NetSquared FACT Social Justice Challenge: http://bit.ly/8ZKlmQ #civicrm #drupalOct 23 18:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: I am trying to stream it securelyOct 23 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera You want a web radio server. Let me check it out.Oct 23 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Give me sometime to make a research. I'll shake the trees and see what drops. ;-)Oct 23 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Can you make sure you document what you did to get it working? Lots of 'try this' and 'try that' but who know which ones work?Oct 23 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Ha, I think I got what U want: MediaTomb - http://ur1.ca/25r75 I've never used it, though, but sems simple to setup and use.Oct 23 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Broad implications of French demonstrations http://ur1.ca/25r7kOct 23 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: big database of music streamed to phone, jack to tx to wireless headphones, it works well. I just want that better xmms sound.Oct 23 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: I missed a few of your posts so our messages have crossed again, thanks for looking I have to log off now.Oct 23 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Rod Liddle is a racist twatOct 23 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @joey: Mac OS X Lion Features Are Ubuntu Rip-Off | Muktware http://www.muktware.com/blog/45/290/23/2010/396Oct 23 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] Palestinians Sentenced for Civil Disobedience http://ur1.ca/25rap #tpnOct 23 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Before I do go, all I need to do is finish downloading data from spideroak check it over then I am looking after ym own data.Oct 23 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] fuck facebookOct 23 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] FB believes that it has hacked into the collective consciousness. i think not. i dare say it does not know what it might knowOct 23 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] So maybe #Jython, #JRuby, etc should start reimplementing on top of #Parrot or on Squeak / Pharo #Smalltalk? JVM too dangerous right now.Oct 23 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow..... That was a good run-through! We managed not to fuck up and all that after only three weeks of rehearsals. :) #RichardOct 23 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We should end the fire scenario data loss by signing up with trusted others in other locations, it is a floss way,someone will make it workOct 23 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Just when you thought it couldn't get worse - "Debt collectors may join antipiracy fight": http://bit.ly/aYtVKfOct 23 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Canonical To Sue Apple? http://bit.ly/9nVLjuOct 23 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Debt collectors may join antipiracy fight http://tinyurl.com/2ugydk7 !piracy !tpb !filesharing !copyrightOct 23 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @praveentrivedi: हिन्दी विकीपीडिया में हिन्दी और सम्बंधित तकनीकी मुद्दों पर आधारित उपलब्ध आलेख - सन्... http://bit.ly/cUii8COct 23 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Other than #Steve_Jobs, why would anyone want to keep the "Sent from my iP(hone|ad)" note? It's clearly not yours! !dbdOct 23 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why hasn’t the US government crushed Wikileaks? http://bit.ly/9ECFEp "You can’t “return” “stolen” digital leaks"; good points #wikileaksOct 23 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fallacy Debunking: Successful New Business Model Examples Are The 'Exception' - http://bit.ly/bEtWXr useful stuff #businessmodelsOct 23 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New York Times Torture Euphemism Generator! - http://bit.ly/bh2si8 struck me, too; good job it's going behind the paywall #nyt #cowardiceOct 23 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Climate issues in Mali http://ur1.ca/25rmuOct 23 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] http://grou.ps/ you are rubbish. Come back #ning, all is forgiven! #socialnetworksOct 23 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] RFC: A Preview Of The Phoronix Graphs With Iveland: Earlier this week I shared part of the vision that Matthew Tip... http://bit.ly/bdOwhDOct 23 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I think the lesson of SCO is: (1) lawsuits are expensive, (2) even in a pretty clear-cut case, you never know what the result will be.Oct 23 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @webmink: Just when you thought it couldn't get worse - "Debt collectors may join antipiracy fight": http://bit.ly/aYtVKfOct 23 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Why hasn’t the US government crushed Wikileaks? http://bit.ly/9ECFEp "You can’t “return” “stolen” digital leaks"; #wikileaksOct 23 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My task in life is thus: to convince my sister to not get an iPhoneOct 23 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: ACS:Law Still Sending Out Letters,Recipients Not Giving In http://tinyurl.com/39kvp2v !acslaw !piracy !tpb !filesharing !music !itunesOct 23 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slyck News - ACS:Law Still Sending Out Letters, Recipients Not Giving In .::. Size~: 16.39 KBOct 23 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Whoever went exploring on the !lo !minecraft server ruined our ability to generate a server map. World is too big for the server RAM now :(Oct 23 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Using Karma As A Deterrent http://bit.ly/aAi4i5 !Apple !Ubuntu !Linux !LaunchpadOct 23 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 sure, I'll do a post about itOct 23 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anti-DRM video which is circulating today http://techrights.org/2010/10/23/anti-drm-video/ #drmOct 23 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @osamak Other than #Steve_Jobs, why would anyone want to keep the "Sent from my iP(hone|ad)" note? It's clearly not yours! !dbdOct 23 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A lot of people seem shocked about water on the moon, but there's lots of it in the solar system and with collisions it's bound to spreadOct 23 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Life does not require water. Life _on Earth_ just happens to have developed around certain molecules.Oct 23 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek ♻ @zaher: Canonical To Sue Apple? http://is.gd/ge7AQ #ubuntu !linuxOct 23 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Hotot !identica client has a new (supercute) icon: http://goo.gl/HrS7Oct 23 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Greece gets tough on tax evaders http://ur1.ca/25rz8Oct 23 20:43
schestowitzhttp://webmink.com/2010/10/23/links-for-2010-10-23/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=laconica "James Gosling calls Steve Jobs on a serious untruth he’s spreading about the Java port. Truth is we always preferred platform providers to manage the port of Java as it led to a much better developer and user experience all round to have all the twiddly bits (especially the UI) done by the platform owner."Oct 23 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz nay u wrong manOct 23 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Book 4. LOL.Oct 23 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The Lion has Lost the Magic http://cli.gs/b9qjHOct 23 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb thanks, the video is upOct 23 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz water is life man. sou saying that life is an accident?Oct 23 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Preview Page - http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/10/lion-has-lost-magic.html .::. Size~: 6.53 KBOct 23 20:46
schestowitz@timbl] Yay! Local Gov #opendata http://ur1.ca/25owzOct 23 20:49
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schestowitzDid he not complain about link shorteners recently?Oct 23 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In another distant planet life could develop around different molecules (not that you can prove any exist). Life needs to make replication.Oct 23 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb Microsoft got the Vodafone treatment in India for tax evasionOct 23 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ahmed Kamal shows us how we can use an Amazon EC2 server instance as our base server to install and run UEC on. http://goo.gl/0JGcOct 23 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @zoobab Anti-software patent campaigner paid to changes his mind about software patents? http://ur1.ca/25lcj >like Clinton re healthcare?Oct 23 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Andrew Zajac: !Ubuntu Rescue Remix is one of ten essential Linux Admin Tools http://goo.gl/jqEeOct 23 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica tells us how to troll against #Windows http://goo.gl/x7uxOct 23 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu-Rescue-Remix is one of ten essential Linux Admin Tools | Ubuntu Rescue Remix .::. Size~: 13.95 KBOct 23 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] One new !gentoo tinderbox getting ready; a test VM getting updated for testing the latest #pambase changes… sighOct 23 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] End Of An Era: Sony Stops Manufacturing Cassette Walkmans http://cli.gs/dus2dOct 23 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @dyfet !GNU Telephony Bug 1 http://bit.ly/cpPKQe !fsf #freedomOct 23 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz cool tyOct 23 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I remember them trying to claim sales instead of licences, until it was pointed out in their own EULA "licence"Oct 23 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak Other than #Steve_Jobs, why would anyone want to keep the "Sent from my iP(hone|ad)" note? It's clearly not yours! !dbdOct 23 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Remove Facebook and Twitter from your !android Nexus One http://kmacphail.blogspot.com/2010/10/removing-facebok-twitter-from-nexus-one.htmlOct 23 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Initial #Zeitgeist #Mono bindings – Call for testers & developers http://goo.gl/6Ar7 mono... >.<Oct 23 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Scott Moser: UDS-N Call for participation http://goo.gl/eJPD !ubuntu #locoteamsOct 23 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh yeah...... Once again trouble brewing in Launchpad land. I wonder when Jono will step in...Oct 23 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Seriously what am I doing? I need stop goofing around & work on my project, deadline is coming up!Oct 23 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] According to Jani Monoses, the next release of #Shotwell will allow users to upload #videos from the camera to #YouTube. http://goo.gl/sycHOct 23 21:28
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schestowitz_Goblin: are you around?Oct 23 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Debt collectors may join antipiracy fight" http://bit.ly/aYtVKf People who work for criminals ('legalised' crime) to defend more criminalsOct 23 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #NASA moon impact blasted into material that's 5% water http://goo.gl/378POct 23 21:33
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_Goblinschestowitz: yeah...in and out....Oct 23 21:37
_Goblinschestowitz: juggling a few things.....Oct 23 21:37
schestowitzOK, will wait for the time being then]Oct 23 21:38
_GoblinIve mailed you - Im just getting all my odds and ends sorted on Openbytes so I have Sunday free.Oct 23 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Kindle owners will be able to lend purchased e-books (one time only, per book) to other Kindle owners. That's freedom... http://goo.gl/M3U0Oct 23 21:39
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schestowitzOK, debut episode mattersOct 23 21:40
schestowitzAlso takes longer to do because no experience is thereOct 23 21:40
schestowitzLike gluing an introOct 23 21:41
_Goblinyep!Oct 23 21:41
_GoblinIve already got the permission to use part of a track if you are willing to accept it....Oct 23 21:41
_Goblinit makes a good intro theme (I think)...if you get a chance, check on Tom Smiths "I fought the troll" sort of a lighthearted, interesting intro theme for the show..(IMO) see what you think.Oct 23 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] "Cross amputation" in Somalia http://ur1.ca/25seuOct 23 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @kevie Sick of a lack of Ogg seeders on !Jamendo ? Download them directly http://tinyurl.com/36zmmqo !ccmusicOct 23 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram good articles, but why not direct links?Oct 23 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I think the Kindle 3 screen has higher DPI than an actual book. That screen is a wonder of technology! OoOct 23 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Those URLs are pretty long. Not much room for commentary if he included full link.Oct 23 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] ... also, I like the fact that it tells you where you're going before you get there. I wish other URL-shorteners found some way to do this.Oct 23 21:53
schestowitz_Goblin: send it to me by mail maybeOct 23 21:53
schestowitzBTWOct 23 21:53
schestowitzYou too can set up your machine to record calls in LinuxOct 23 21:54
schestowitzI've just mailed youOct 23 21:55
schestowitzIt's far simpler than I imaginesOct 23 21:55
schestowitzIt's far simpler than I imaginedOct 23 21:55
ender2070yeah thats why I mentioned itOct 23 21:57
ender2070i grabbed a book on it at value village for $5.99Oct 23 21:57
ender2070"Secrets of Podcasting"Oct 23 21:57
ender2070all you need is a mic, a computer and an internet connectionOct 23 21:58
ender2070it tells you to use Audacity :)Oct 23 21:58
ender2070i love books that recommend FOSSOct 23 21:58
ender2070theres sites you can submit the netcast that will drive trafficOct 23 22:00
schestowitzThanks!Oct 23 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @mohanpram Don't mess around too much. That degree will serve you better than #Crunchgear, etc.Oct 23 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] ... Of course, then comes the process of paying off the student loans.Oct 23 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz huh you are right I have no idea y it's like that. Need to change back to ur1.ca, I changed because it wasn't repondingOct 23 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Wow, #Hotot looks awesome!Oct 23 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Anybody know how I can restrict the server's map size in !minecraft?Oct 23 22:09
_Goblinschestowitz: will do...i'll send nowOct 23 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140 so true, going off grid till I get some work done soon. :)Oct 23 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] More specifically, I want to restrict the auto generating of the actual world in !minecraft. How do I do that on the server?Oct 23 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] s/irreverent/irrelevant/Oct 23 22:19
schestowitz_Goblin: it's fantasticOct 23 22:23
_Goblin:) I just saw I missed a ping from you.....Oct 23 22:23
_Goblinsorry, Im in and out of the roomOct 23 22:23
schestowitzWHich one/Oct 23 22:23
schestowitzIhOct 23 22:23
schestowitzThat one...Oct 23 22:23
_GoblinSkypeOct 23 22:23
schestowitzI wanted to test recordingOct 23 22:23
_GoblinIm pleased you liked the track....I have spoken to Tom Smith directly and he is more than happy to allow use of the track....Oct 23 22:24
_GoblinWe'll have to do the phone test on sunday as shell has come to bed.....Oct 23 22:25
schestowitzOKOct 23 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Kubuntu 10.10 is surprisigly good. I love the slick interface and the great selection of applications...Oct 23 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Rekonq is sometimes pretty annoying, though...Oct 23 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] new blog post http://tekkenfreak3.wordpress.com/2010/10/23/restoring-sound-in-debian-squeeze/Oct 23 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: get medicine out of ACTA http://ur1.ca/25srnOct 23 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates #3 Man in United States Government, Permanently? http://ur1.ca/25ssu Who needs elections anyway? Rules ignored by the rich.Oct 23 22:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] New blog post, A GUI For draw-something - http://robmyers.org/weblog/2010/10/a-gui-for-draw-something.htmlOct 23 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Urgent: get medicine out of ACTA http://ur1.ca/25srnOct 23 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mobbyists heckle !fsfe in the comments using lies/spin http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=408Oct 23 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Karsten on Free Software  » Battling the Hydra: FSFEs work on Open Standards .::. Size~: 48.16 KBOct 23 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @ovigia ♺ @rms: Urgent: get medicine out of ACTA http://ur1.ca/25srnOct 23 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Killing the !LO !Minecraft server and starting over. This time I'll implement a hard border to curb exploration.Oct 23 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Bill Gates #3 Man in United States Government, Permanently? http://ur1.ca/25ssu Who needs elections anyway? Rules ignor ...Oct 23 23:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] State werewolf registration scheme - http://werewolf-news.com/2010/10/are-you-a-werewolf-let-the-supernatural-registration-authority-know/Oct 23 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Werewolf News -    Are you a werewolf? Let the Supernatural Registration Authority know -  News about werewolf movies, games, books and art .::. Size~: 16.43 KBOct 23 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] !gentoo needs a #PAM fixing sweep… but I don't have force to coordinate enough changes alone in spare time =_=Oct 23 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Michael Roberts will not be your Captain today http://ur1.ca/25t76Oct 23 23:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hanging at Toronto's LinuxCaffe (great hot chocolate) lots of marshmallows for a rainy dayOct 23 23:49

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