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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mac OS X Lion Features Are !Ubuntu !GNU !Linux Rip-Off http://ur1.ca/25zog IMitate much? "We.. shameless about stealing great ideas." JobsOct 26 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody To Save Students Money, Colleges May Force a Switch to E-Textbooks - http://bit.ly/aApb5N with or without DRM? #education ...Oct 26 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody Secret Anti-Piracy Negotiations, 3 Strikes, And a Taxpayer Funded Campaign - http://bit.ly/9XijCQ something rotten in the ...Oct 26 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will !Android Market Beat Apple's App Store? http://www.muktware.com/blog/46/344/25/2010/402 already selling faster?Oct 26 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mac OS X Lion Features Are Ubuntu Rip-Off | Muktware .::. Size~: 22.68 KBOct 26 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The End of the Textbook as We Know It - Technology - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 46.45 KBOct 26 00:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Secret Anti-Piracy Negotiations, 3 Strikes, And a Taxpayer Funded Campaign | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 48.68 KBOct 26 00:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz an instant celebrity who posed for a man's mag. Her previous pics leaked in the net and I used Gimp to show I could make it tooOct 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Just released Linux Outlaws 171 - Mindcrack http://ur1.ca/26f7n -- includes @fabsh review of MinecraftOct 26 00:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO ♺ @sixgun: Just released Linux Outlaws 171 - Mindcrack http://ur1.ca/26f7n -- includes my review of !MinecraftOct 26 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I understand the wife thing but what's so bad about Fedora? The corporate angle?Oct 26 00:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @bkuhn it's hard for newbies? I never noticed thatOct 26 00:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mark Cuban offers to pay SEC lawyers to speed up the investigation against him http://ur1.ca/26faeOct 26 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Alpha version of a tell-your-date-when-your-trains-arrives widget: http://ur1.ca/26fcp #iRailOct 26 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Cor Nouws stepped back as member of the OpenOffice.org Community Council: http://ur1.ca/26fdpOct 26 00:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Free reign http://ur1.ca/26fe6Oct 26 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Finally got the show out. Now sleep...Oct 26 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice will have a DevRoom at FOSDEMOct 26 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Eight HTML5 Drafts Updated http://ow.ly/19DfuFOct 26 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] My lighter died! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOct 26 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 25/10/2010: Mac OS X Lion Allegedly Copies !GNU !Linux , #Clang Builds Linux 2.6.36 http://ur1.ca/26fgm !techrightsOct 26 00:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Here the site that discovered her past http://www.naosalvo.com.br/vc/geisy-arruda-revista-sexy-2010-comparacao-2008/Oct 26 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] *flicks dead lighter* /criesOct 26 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] GNOME do not have a closed minded development model, not engaging with them is what causes thisOct 26 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] You'd have thought I would have learnt that online comments are usually clueless and ignorantOct 26 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] @mairin It's kinda skeezy, like keeping a FWB around while reserving the right to cruise the singles hangouts.Oct 26 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Aw, my proposal for F15 "Leuchars" hasn't been shortlistedOct 26 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right.....I think thats me done for the night...btw caught up with the Inbetweeners recent ep....great stuff.....check it out if you can...Oct 26 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuOct 26 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] That is all.Oct 26 00:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @docufoundation Cor Nouws stepped back as member of the OpenOffice.org Community Council: http://ur1.ca/26fdpOct 26 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Damned get_iplayer downloaded Edinburgh-Ulster againOct 26 00:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Clearly they don't want me to watch Glasgow winningOct 26 01:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Born every minute http://ur1.ca/26fv1Oct 26 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git7 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 26 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2010-Oct-28: András Micsik and Péter Pallinger give a talk entitled: "Using Semantic Web in Multiagent Environment" http://ow.ly/19DiOVOct 26 01:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2010-Oct-26: Martín Álvarez, W3C Spain Office, gives a talk entitled: "Data Integration on the Web" http://ow.ly/19DiOTOct 26 01:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2010-Oct-28: Michael(tm) Smith gives a talk entitled: "Why HTML5 and why not XHTML2" http://ow.ly/19DiOUOct 26 01:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Vatican to rich countries: stop "excessive zeal" for IP rights (Ars): http://bit.ly/98r39VOct 26 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn what about a fedora downstream like fusion?Oct 26 02:01
*WireWulf is now known as Wulf|awayOct 26 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Bella Ruse. http://ur1.ca/26g6c Mellow jazzy pop/folk & a voice made for teenage boys to fall in love with. !Jamendo !ccmusic #BY-NC-SAOct 26 02:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download this album for free: Bella Ruse - Jamendo .::. Size~: 118.05 KBOct 26 02:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Ubuntu users seem to have a high tolerance to all sorts of bullshit.Oct 26 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] another reason i dont like google http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/25/schmidt_on_street_view/Oct 26 02:18
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pookitook guys I have some questions about sabayonOct 26 02:21
pookitoI was told to come bye if I have any problem to this channelOct 26 02:21
pookitoI think someone is using sabayon hereOct 26 02:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Look in the dictionary under "Bully"... http://ur1.ca/26gciOct 26 02:25
ThistleWebthat would have been a MS employee using Windows pretending to be using SabyonOct 26 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tickets now available for EFF's Pioneer Awards! A great evening is planned. https://eff.org/r.5tuOct 26 02:26
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ThistleWebof course the logical place for sabyon questions would be the sabyon channels, not hereOct 26 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Why do asian search engines _not_ provide English webmaster information?Oct 26 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] my #N810 is in a reboot loop again! *sighs*. already time for a reflash?Oct 26 02:35
Ender2070do you have any tinfoil left?Oct 26 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fontana which I do not understand... :-sOct 26 02:38
Ender2070anyone heard of http://www.archhurd.org/Oct 26 02:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @webmink Doesn't prohibit exercise of GPL rights; exercise of GPL rights may affect subscription fee or availability of support.Oct 26 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I don't see how it's any more #disturbing than charging a lot of money for distribution of GPL'd software; see http://ur1.ca/ywOct 26 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn also I don't think that fairly describes the modelOct 26 02:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @webmink - is SunRPC free yet?Oct 26 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @bkuhn You're going to single out an entire community distro just because of Redhat? Fedora is just as free as Debian, give it a shotOct 26 03:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost don't forget the last one is due to gnome not liking copyright assignmentOct 26 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @bkuhn Everyone profits from Fedora in FOSS. From NetworkManager to Nouveau and PolicyKit - We're pioneers !fedora !fsf !fossOct 26 03:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I sound like a broken recordOct 26 03:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @ender2070 For #glibc see http://sources.redhat.com/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=a7ab6ec83e144dafdc7c46b8943288f450f8e320Oct 26 03:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ♺ @gtktoolkit: GTK+ 2.91.2 (unstable) released: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2010-October/msg00230.html !gtkOct 26 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @fontana Thank you, it seems i'm out of date on that one :)Oct 26 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Canonical is what happens when for-profit entities try to act like a "community" - it's bullshit.Oct 26 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Surprising progress http://ur1.ca/269znOct 26 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] #WTF "bitlybot" requesting favicon.gif... .gif?!?!Oct 26 03:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @ender2070 He's wary of it because he's been burned by redhat in the proprietary software area before back when it was just RHLOct 26 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 How does Fedora measure in bloatness and slowdown ?Oct 26 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] TenPenny Joke. http://ur1.ca/26h0j Radio-friendly but eclectic #AU indie rock. !Jamendo !ccmusic !freemusic #BY-SAOct 26 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] am being spammed by @eslaliktq @bslilimkvj @vsmarlimkfl but they are not on Identi.ca so I can't flag them... Suggestions? @identicaOct 26 03:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free music downloads: TenPenny Joke - Jamendo .::. Size~: 71.71 KBOct 26 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith It depends on how you set it up, there less bloat with the LXDE spin, even less bloat if you roll the dvd and don't install XOct 26 03:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @tekk I don't understand, Fedora != Redhat, and the source code is there for you to make your own Scientific Linux or CentOS.Oct 26 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Introduction to Interprocess Communication Using Named Pipes: http://bit.ly/9KzZjOOct 26 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Creating Pipes in C: http://bit.ly/8cB712Oct 26 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @tekk RHL also came with source code cdsOct 26 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Ha, Desktop without X is like a beer without alcohol ;-DOct 26 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith You're free to do whatever you want on Fedora is the point, its as bloated as you want it.Oct 26 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 I mean, comparing with Buguntu... ?Oct 26 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Theres always Lubuntu or Xubuntu, I hear they aren't bloated. I personally recommend Fedora KDE, it's what I run.Oct 26 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Good, 3 or 4 ? 4 I think won't run here. But I run E17 very well in one of my machines, and k3 in an unupdated distro in otherOct 26 04:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith It uses KDE 4.5.2 in Fedora 14. The 4.5 series is faster than the 4.4 series. E17 is good too.Oct 26 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Blog: #Drupal Modules for #CiviCRM : http://bit.ly/cf9IKI , Slides: http://bit.ly/azgd9U Presentation from Drupal Camp TOOct 26 04:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Was at a dinner the other night where everybody present gushed about how wonderful Facebook is. I bit my tongue. Roll on #FreedomBox.Oct 26 04:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Is there E-17 for Fedora in the repos ? Or an E-17 ISO ?Oct 26 04:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith I asked the other day and I was told it's in the repos. I think I might try it myself :)Oct 26 04:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 So I get a base ISO and install E-17. So far, so good, but what DE comes default ?Oct 26 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Gnome is the defaultOct 26 04:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I have a funny feeling that the companies who make lighters are screwing with everyone.Oct 26 04:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 I'm seriously thinking about change, the repo maintainer of my distro is doing a lot of shit with the packagesOct 26 04:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] s/who/that - why do i always refer to corporate entities as people? Fuck whoever ingrained that in my head.Oct 26 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] NOW Playing - Visual Boy Advance, on LINUX! Yeah!Oct 26 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Give it a shot, it's a great distro :)Oct 26 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Yup, but Gnome gives me the creeps. Sure I'm seeking for a RPM based distro, because of the UID, but Gnome... Dunno...Oct 26 04:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] NOW Playing - Super Street Fighter Advance, on LINUX! Yeah!Oct 26 04:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Grab Fedora LXDE or XFCE then, theres an iso spin of those. http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#desktopsOct 26 04:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Humm, it's getting better. Mono ? I hope not, for Fedora's sake...Oct 26 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith It's in the repo but not in the LiveCD spins nor is it a default anywhere. It's too big for the LiveCDs.Oct 26 04:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @fontana my guess is that many #trademark lawsuits are brought to intimidate competition, not to actually take to court. Chilling effect.Oct 26 04:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Ah, very well, it's the first thing I strip out when I do a fresh installOct 26 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101026 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 26 04:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith It's something I haven't had to do in over a year now :)Oct 26 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 2 yrs 4 me, but then, repos are very bad, poorly maintained, so I'll exercise my power of choice.Oct 26 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Jewish Anti-semitism http://ur1.ca/26hccOct 26 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @ender2070 Actually !fedora is arguably freer than #Debian. I understand @bkuhn 's point of view though.Oct 26 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] RT @magicbus http://goo.gl/gaEu Lego Fail Whale!Oct 26 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] To !quote @reality, "Good night Identiverse"Oct 26 04:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] sometimes I wish i had a phone so I can be at the beach blazing while ranting on identi.ca. actually, nevermind. I don't want to be tracked.Oct 26 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.36-libre-lemote_0lxo mipsel.deb now available for !gnewsense !yeeloongOct 26 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Reading the back of a bic lighter package... Apparently they hold a patent. What for? Fire?Oct 26 05:08
Ender2070So much for open source: http://www.go-mono.com/store/Oct 26 05:13
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Ender2070"If you are the only individual planning to use Mono Tools for Visual Studio, then the Professional Edition is right for you. Your non-transferable license entitles you to one year of updates. $99 USD "Oct 26 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mono goes closed source http://ur1.ca/25p4o #wtf #microsoft !fsfOct 26 05:16
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Ender2070SUSE Linux Enterprise Mono Extension is a .NET application framework that enables organizations to run Microsoft .NET-based server applications on Linux. Based on open source Mono technology and run in conjunction with SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, SUSE Linux Enterprise Mono Extension delivers all the performance, scalability and hardware support of the SUSE Linux Enterprise platform to the .NET applicationOct 26 05:17
Ender2070environment. $200 a yearOct 26 05:17
Ender2070I think there is a profit motive for pushing mono everywhereOct 26 05:17
Ender2070and its there for everyone to seeOct 26 05:17
Ender2070if people recommend other languages nobody is going to want to buy this from NovellOct 26 05:19
Ender2070no conspiracy theories requiredOct 26 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] War Diary excerpt http://ur1.ca/26hs8Oct 26 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now, this http://govspace.gov.au/ is really nice to see. I wonder if there are other governments who do this? #fbOct 26 05:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Positive changes in Xubuntu 10.10: Parole Media Player, Xfburn sted Brasero, Xfce4-task-manager sted GNOME-task-managerOct 26 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] It's maddening when people redent stuff from a user which I try desperately to avoid...Oct 26 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Xubuntu is on my short list (with Debian, OpenBSD)Oct 26 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] s/ammount/amount /obious typo is obviousOct 26 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Purging lighters of their safety locks...Oct 26 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I installed a daily build of Debian Squeeze on a test machine. Included in the default are Shotwell and Tomboy. Very Ubuntuish, I reckon.Oct 26 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Attempting to guess the password for a remote statusnet spam account.Oct 26 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] "Flick My Bic" /facepalmOct 26 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] *another sigh* - these slogans/taglines/whatever are extremely ridiculous.Oct 26 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] my abstraction/helpful lib for SDL is going well, I think I have it to the point where I can move on to adding event supportOct 26 06:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Perpetual war http://ur1.ca/26i9zOct 26 06:28
MinceRthere were no conspiracy theories required anywayOct 26 06:29
MinceRm$'s and novell's history and behavior speaks for itselfOct 26 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Installing the 2nd !Fedora laptop within 24 hours, both former !M$ users, and good friends. !Linux !GNUOct 26 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @fabricapo Funambol replaces BES as Zimbra replaces Exchange http://bit.ly/a0y9DUOct 26 06:40
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Ender2070i know but they usually promote it as some sort of technical masterpieceOct 26 06:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] LibreOffice, OpenOffice, may I say I don't like both names very much? Need some boost also on that front.Oct 26 06:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Isn't it weird? I wanted to like KDE and gave it a pretty solid go, but their cluttered interfaces drove me away for good.Oct 26 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I dream about [Libre¦Open]office and Etherpad. Could be a killer. Esp for inline/side comments and reviews.Oct 26 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Communication is the primary use of computers, no? Then why the hell did everyone initially rely on Skype instead of Jabber, for an example?Oct 26 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] strike on German railways. website typically helpful: "some disruption". gee, tux #db #failOct 26 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] s/tux/thxOct 26 06:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] upside is, October is always busy, and i don't get much fresh air. a good long wait on #db platform fixing that nowOct 26 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vatican to rich countries: stop "excessive zeal" for IP rights http://ur1.ca/26ile #IntellectualMonopoliesOct 26 07:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Linus sent a reminder: Merge Window for 2.6.37 will end this weekend http://bit.ly/cGsy5z #linux #kernel #2637Oct 26 07:10
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/18/pakistan-isi-mumbai-terror-attacksOct 26 07:18
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schestowitzInteresting if trueOct 26 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Another harmful oath http://ur1.ca/26it3Oct 26 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @bayartb FDN cherche un connaisseur droit administratif pour une question assez pointue... bureau at fdn point fr (please RT!)Oct 26 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] No trains until 9am. But coffee & network, things are improving. Will be with @mk, @maelle, and rest of !fsfe Berlin crew later than plannedOct 26 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] On way to work.....think I've badly injured my back.Oct 26 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: USPTO and EPO Work on Joint #Patent Classification System http://bit.ly/dkKSSgOct 26 07:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: #Windows Profit Declines Sharply Because of Competition From GNU/Linux http://bit.ly/asVLLL #gnu #linux #microsoftOct 26 07:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ivankristianto: #Ubuntu 10.10 #Maverick #Meerkat Released, What's Next?: http://t.co/BYuUtzo #natty-narwhal Me: It's #Fedora 14Oct 26 07:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @FHM_RO: Nila: Nila,27ani http://bit.ly/c1ESqTOct 26 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Vatican to rich countries: stop "excessive zeal" for IP rights http://ur1.ca/26ile #IntellectualMonopoliesOct 26 07:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @diablod3: the link seems to be wrong... :)Oct 26 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Notice how most exports come from the East to the West. Not just cargo but also censorship. The East owns the future and defines the West.Oct 26 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Best Euro broadband city=Constanta/RO avg 8.5Mbit/s. Best US city Monterey Park 6.9Mbit/s. But 75 of top 100 in Asia. http://ur1.ca/26hfqOct 26 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: Keep an eye on it: #Nokia and #HP Betray #Linux Under #Microsoft-sympathetic New Leadership - http://is.gd/g0Szi #gnuOct 26 07:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fontana Ah. Thought so...Oct 26 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mono goes closed source http://ur1.ca/26j1k #wtf #microsoft !fsfOct 26 07:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steven Johnson: 'Eureka moments are very, very rare' http://ur1.ca/26j1q Ideas are assembling works of others, combiningOct 26 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A apărut firmware nou pentru #Nokia N900 http://is.gd/gjAbNOct 26 07:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] @rsandu fixed http://ur1.ca/26j29Oct 26 08:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh @support Something has to be done about these other statusnet sites having direct access. We can't silence, flag or block them.Oct 26 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @brainvision: "Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms" - Groucho MarxOct 26 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @StopActaNow @arstechnica French #3strikes agency #HADOPI getting 25,000 complaints a day http://bit.ly/c3sAjg #ACTAOct 26 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Unity is a good concept for small screens, delivery is highly suboptimal IMHO. Desktop is dead anyway. Need s/thing new.Oct 26 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Windows Profit Declines Sharply Because of Competition From GNU/Linux http://is.gd/gjBqC #microsoft #windowsOct 26 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Now I get compliments from spammers. I doubt they are really female too... OoOct 26 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @nicoinattendu ♺ @jeanaustinr: geek 'n' free http://store.linux.com/images/LIN30013-1.jpg !linux !ubuntuOct 26 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man I'm tired...Oct 26 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @h_ingo OpenLife blog: LWN.net covers Drizzle beta and MariaDB RC http://tinyurl.com/2edwbhcOct 26 08:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Not enough people exclaim "By Jove!" these days. It's as though Terry Thomas never existed.Oct 26 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Finally moving on #db, strike apparently over for today. Might make it to Berlin eventually.Oct 26 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Glinner RT @wikileaks: FOX news editorial calls for WikiLeaks staff to be assassinated | Rawstory http://bit.ly/dtfAY6 >>so civilisedOct 26 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Win for public science http://ur1.ca/26je2Oct 26 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nicubunu: RT @sparks I voted for my favorite name for !Fedora 15, have you? http://is.gd/gj4GDOct 26 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Video: UDS Natty 11.04 - Mark Shuttleworth's Keynote http://bit.ly/dwvShBOct 26 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Jean Francois Maurice - Monaco 28 Degrees a l'ombre http://is.gd/gjEeDOct 26 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Global food crisis forecast as prices reach record highs - http://bit.ly/a2vwbV welcome to the future #food #climatechangeOct 26 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “books” On the Cambridge Train - http://bit.ly/bxvMFr we're already on this platform, waiting for the train #ebooks #drmOct 26 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I'm sleepy... I need my tea...Oct 26 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [OT] MEMO: Health Insurance, Banking, Oil Industries Met With Koch, Chamber, Glenn Beck To Plot 2010 Election http://ur1.ca/26jlkOct 26 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shakespeare in the Original Voice - http://bit.ly/ddCyY7 cross between #mummerset and Talk Like a #Pirate, apparently #shakespeareOct 26 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Eric Hammond: !Ubuntu 9.04 #Jaunty End Of Life http://goo.gl/o6sxOct 26 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sense Hofstede about the first day of the !Ubuntu Developer Summit #Natty http://goo.gl/n6WrOct 26 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese Net Café Owners: Choose Between Paying For Chinese Movies Or Using Free Pirated Foreign Movies - http://bit.ly/dcFGgi what to do?Oct 26 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Romanian Anticorruption Department (DNA) buys wiretapping equipment of RON 500,000, ignoring bigbrother scandal http://tinyurl.com/2b44qqsOct 26 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @debian: @raphaelhertzog shares his motivations to create the new (3.0) !Debian source package formats http://bit.ly/bbOzKH #planetOct 26 09:08
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MinceRgeekingsOct 26 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @riccardowired WikiLeaks, perché sto con Assange - Wired.it http://bit.ly/aHpQEoOct 26 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] On my way to Rome. Train vs. plane is a clear winner. Center to center @ 99 euro return.Oct 26 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rahulsundaram Unity cannot be part of upstream GNOME due to http://ur1.ca/10cm4. Doesn't prevent Fedora packaging it.Oct 26 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @rahulsundaram: Unity cannot be part of upstream GNOME due to http://ur1.ca/10cm4. Doesn't prevent Fedora packaging it. | yepOct 26 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Compiz 0.9.2 Released With Minimized Live Window Previews, Natural Scale Mode; 0.9.4 News http://goo.gl/7pxlOct 26 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Forbidden knowledge http://ur1.ca/26jzoOct 26 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's hard to admit, but !Kubuntu 10.10 is actually pretty awesome...Oct 26 09:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Apologies to everyone who didn't get a reply from me here yesterday. Connectivity at EC's Digital Agenda day was abysmal. Oh the irony #failOct 26 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just me on !linkedin, or is theme/css messed up on profiles? #liOct 26 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Found a use for the macbook: portable recharging station for HTC desire http://ur1.ca/26kblOct 26 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Not theme/css http://www.linkedin.com/nhome/ !linkedin #liOct 26 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] http://www.owmx.com/ very slick !html5 css3 !foss web templates #web #designOct 26 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Coming Showdown over Free Music - http://bit.ly/c42gY6 collecting societies are the big problem (via @robinwauters @Cyber_Panda_) #musicOct 26 10:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ubuntu's switching to !Unity gives a great opportunity for !Xubuntu. Many people will search for something more familiar, and XFCE is great.Oct 26 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Muslims should reject shari'a law http://ur1.ca/26kj8Oct 26 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Unity replaces !Gnome as default shell: http://ur1.ca/26kkbOct 26 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #interview mit #DradioWissen zu !fs Freie-Software-Lizenzen http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/?p=679 !fsfe !gnuOct 26 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner #interview mit #DradioWissen zu !fs Freie-Software-Lizenzen http://blogs.fsfe.org/mk/?p=679 !fsfe !gnuOct 26 10:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Sophie Gautier resigned from her role as OpenOffice.org Community Council deputy member: http://ur1.ca/26ksyOct 26 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] s/hungy/hungry - wow, I totally walked right into that oneOct 26 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] New book by Simone Aliprandi (italian) - Apriti standard! - http://www.aliprandi.org/apriti-standard/Oct 26 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice and The Document Foundation will have a booth at LinuxDay Dornbirn: http://www.linuxday.atOct 26 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @thb: yay! - #libreoffice devroom for #fosdem 2011 accepted - book your travel, folks!Oct 26 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Recording of yesterday's LibreOffice Marketing Conference Call is now online: http://ur1.ca/26kvsOct 26 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Getting bored, need a new avatar, and some different groups to troll :)Oct 26 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] Your opinions wanted for our Open Ballot: do you support Ubuntu's move to the Unity desktop? http://tinyurl.com/2vrlhgjOct 26 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Jolly Roger, A story about copyright in cyberspace - http://www.hardabud.com/jollyroger/ (via @mlinksva)Oct 26 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @methoddan @felimwhiteley Nope, as I've often said we're like a ddos attack on the ears ;)Oct 26 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Want to join our next Marketing Conference Call? Let us know what time you prefer! http://ur1.ca/26l1zOct 26 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Restoring GRUB in Fedora 13 after you've killed it http://ht.ly/19DIr3Oct 26 11:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Privatization of protected forests http://ur1.ca/26l2tOct 26 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @ohnewein International #FreeSoftware Conference (#SFScon) at #TIS Innovation Park, #SouthTyrol http://ping.fm/VBwmCOct 26 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Abother colour trademark, purple this time - http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/25/3m-claims-ownership.htmlOct 26 11:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3M claims ownership over purple - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 55.13 KBOct 26 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Noticed @BBCLauraK & other OB journos wearing poppies today - like Xmas, gets earlier each yearOct 26 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ♫ Street Spirit (Fade Out) by Radiohead [MPD] ♫Oct 26 11:43
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lightpriestwhat was the term for when a company (like MS) publishes versions that don't even have a screenshot yet?Oct 26 11:49
lightpriestuses PR, that isOct 26 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] SmSpillaz: A bright new future for #Compiz http://goo.gl/FGSh !ubuntu !unityOct 26 11:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A bright new future for Compiz « SmSpillaz Blog .::. Size~: 53.61 KBOct 26 11:50
lightpriestvaporware ...Oct 26 11:50
amarsh04"pre-announces"?Oct 26 11:53
lightpriestamarsh04, yeah, I just read a story about windows 8. I had to comment with a reference to Vaporware ;)Oct 26 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Screencast Episode | MintBackup http://bit.ly/bNPgfQ #LinuxMint !dpsOct 26 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Jubiiii My new !W510 is here !F14 here I comeOct 26 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] I'm yet to see something as pervasive as spam. It's infiltrated *all* of my online presence.Oct 26 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ♺ @archena: I predict that in a few months !identica will only accept remote dents from a list of trusted sites. #spam #rantOct 26 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Wow, it's already 4:00AM? I better sleep. Later Identicats.Oct 26 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Tomorrow's TDF Steering Committee phone conference is the first public one. Join us! http://ur1.ca/26ldcOct 26 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ♫ Fake Plastic Trees by Radiohead [MPD] ♫Oct 26 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] ...so yeah, umm, sleep time ;)Oct 26 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @docufoundation Tomorrow's TDF Steering Committee phone conference is the first public one. Join us! http://ur1.ca/26ldcOct 26 12:12
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schestowitz<lightpriest> what was the term for when a company (like MS) publishes versions that don't even have a screenshot yet?Oct 26 12:14
schestowitzGates won an award for vapourware decades agoOct 26 12:14
schestowitzIt's supposed to "Freeze the market" (Microsoft's words)Oct 26 12:15
schestowitzVista 8 stinks in salesOct 26 12:15
schestowitzVista 7 stinks in salesOct 26 12:15
schestowitzVista 8 will stink in salesOct 26 12:15
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schestowitzThey have no roadmap, except maybe something like WPF/Silver Lie, which is dying anywayOct 26 12:15
schestowitzOOXML is dead because of the Web/SAASOct 26 12:15
schestowitz<lightpriest> amarsh04, yeah, I just read a story about windows 8. I had to comment with a reference to Vaporware ;)Oct 26 12:16
schestowitzGoodOct 26 12:16
schestowitzit means they suffer againOct 26 12:16
schestowitz"In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version of the same technology, however. Indeed, Phase 1 (Evangelism Starts) for version x+1 may start as soon as this Final Release of version X."Oct 26 12:16
schestowitz-Microsoft <http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf>Oct 26 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Will you still be able to install !freesoftware on #MacOSX in a few years? http://www.defectivebydesign.org/macappstoreOct 26 12:17
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_8_Reality_LogOct 26 12:17
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schestowitzThistleWeb: I'll embed http://blip.tv/file/get/ThistleWeb-MintBackup801.ogv in a few hoursOct 26 12:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @robmyers I guess my wife can't wear her favorite color anymore, unless she wants to be a 3M productOct 26 12:22
ThistleWebcool tyOct 26 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jolicloud Rumored To Be Launching A Netbook [Jolicloud Has "An Exciting Upcoming Launch"] http://ur1.ca/26lhjOct 26 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Installing F14 TC1.1 so nice...Oct 26 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Powerloader Light Exo-Suit Adds 40kg of Kick-Power to Your Legs http://ur1.ca/26lif Runs !LinuxOct 26 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Polluters fund notorious Senators http://ur1.ca/26lj8Oct 26 12:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MontaVista Carrier Grade !Linux 6.0 is out! http://ur1.ca/26lke http://ur1.ca/26lkeOct 26 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] _Another_ broken #GNU #tar version in !gentoo… should we move to #bsdtar as default provider? http://is.gd/gk1QxOct 26 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is Firesheep illegal? - http://bit.ly/9BUFmy probably. is the UK's Computer Misuse Act 1990 too Draconian? you bet #firesheep #lawOct 26 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Linux based systems are now standard technology in many exchanges, including the New York Stock Exchange." http://ur1.ca/26llcOct 26 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tesco updates shopping app to include time-saving barcode scanner - http://bit.ly/9M4VuP clever #iphone #barcodesOct 26 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK people: help stop the government snooping on every email and Facebook message - http://bit.ly/dqA4Hc pl. sign and RTOct 26 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] http://pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/10/25/why-mozilla-needs-to-pick-a-new-fight Moz could expand… but give up Firefox? complacency got us IE @ 80%Oct 26 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X.Org Server 1.9.2 Should Be Here By Christmas: Apple's Jeremy Huddleston released X.Org Server 1.9.1 this past we... http://bit.ly/citBSDOct 26 12:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] … IE wont get that big again – WebKit is the new beast to parry. Gotta keep everyone in check.Oct 26 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody UK people: help stop the government snooping on every email and Facebook message - http://bit.ly/dqA4Hc pl. sign and RTOct 26 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I found the #libvirt bug… WTFOct 26 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-26: LibreOffice Contributions stats It's early days, but it seems liberating the OpenOffice.org... http://bit.ly/a4H2ZIOct 26 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pardus Linux 2011 Beta Comes With KDE SC 4.5.2 http://ur1.ca/26lvq Gets great reviewsOct 26 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very little Windows news these day (except vapourware); I'm stuggling to find material to write about, which is a good thing.Oct 26 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git8 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 26 13:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Great demo to show !KDE & !GNU !Linux efficincy: CD ripping with folderview drag-and-drop+auto track title extraction. It's the KDEperienceOct 26 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Clutter's Latest Release Gains Wayland Back-End: The Wayland Display Server continues moving forward and is nearin... http://bit.ly/bX22HEOct 26 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Radeon Page-Flipping Patches Come About: Since the Linux 2.6.32 kernel there has been the KMS page-flipping ioctl ... http://bit.ly/bey0SfOct 26 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] What is it with anarchists and beards?Oct 26 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] There's something Ministry Of Truth-y about calling it "Unity".Oct 26 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Confirmed body count http://ur1.ca/26m0mOct 26 13:33
ThistleWebschestowitz: do you listen to the game podcast by any chance? it's a football showOct 26 13:34
ThistleWebby the times newspaperOct 26 13:34
schestowitzI no longer follow footballOct 26 13:34
schestowitzI could watch women's soccer [sic], I guess :-)Oct 26 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @robmyers There's something Ministry Of Truth-y about calling it "Unity".Oct 26 13:35
schestowitzIf I watch someone in shorts it might as well be like it. I lost interest and track of football players, same with other pop' sportsOct 26 13:36
ThistleWebthe most recent ep were talking about morailty, ethics etc in the rooney saga, and one guest brought bill gates and warren buffett in as an example of how "being incredibly wealthy didn't mean you didn'tcouldnt have morals, and that both men were examples that you can have both"Oct 26 13:36
ThistleWebI almost fell out of my chair laighingOct 26 13:36
MinceRlolOct 26 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Tornado and Royal Scots Grey can't appear too quicklyOct 26 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] How a union end-run around austerity and privatization could build a true "big society" - http://ur1.ca/26m1iOct 26 13:37
MinceRwhich "times" is that?Oct 26 13:37
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MinceRthe one from Airstrip One, owned by murdoch?Oct 26 13:37
ThistleWebhe was pulled up on it a few mins later though, where it was pointed out that gates and buffet got to where they were by being ruthless in businessOct 26 13:37
ThistleWebhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/thegame_podcasts/Oct 26 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @robmyers Christ knows what Harmony has in store then. My guess is a new licenceOct 26 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I will be in Redmond from Tuesday afternoon until Friday night" -Miguel de Icaza, Microsoft MVP (always there at heart) http://ur1.ca/26m33Oct 26 13:38
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ThistleWebit's a football show, I didn't expect any tech references, that was an exceptionOct 26 13:38
MinceRthat's not tech, though :>Oct 26 13:39
MinceRapparently it is murdoch'sOct 26 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Video--Dr. David Upton has a radically simple idea: Make your IT change over time to fit your needs. http://bit.ly/dtUTO4Oct 26 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] webOS 2.0 review http://ur1.ca/245v0 "webOS 2.0 is probably neck and neck with iOS4 when it comes to polish and ease of use" !linuxOct 26 13:40
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ThistleWebthey don't do their site well, but the bottom one on the list is the latest ep, and the one with the gates / buffet remark http://podcast.timesonline.co.uk/rss/thegamepodcastmp3.rssOct 26 13:40
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ThistleWebtrying to find show notes for that epOct 26 13:41
ThistleWebjames someoneOct 26 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @bruce89 It's a divisive new UI.Oct 26 13:41
ThistleWebanyhoo, jus' sayin' in case it slipped passed unnoticedOct 26 13:42
schestowitzhttp://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=christine_o_donnell_so_far&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1Oct 26 13:42
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schestowitzThistleWeb: Hehe. Buffett and GAtes, eh?Oct 26 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does anyone remember Windows Phony 7? So much money spent on advertising and, as expected, all in vain. No copy and paste, still.Oct 26 13:43
schestowitzI guess their message is, ROoney needs to spend more on PROct 26 13:43
ThistleWeblol, I forgot they had their genius paywallOct 26 13:43
schestowitzThat alone is how those two dick manage to buy the press and put pictures of them smoking with headlines like, "Warren and Bill to save poor AIDS-infected black child without a mommy"Oct 26 13:44
schestowitz<MinceR> the one from Airstrip One, owned by murdoch?Oct 26 13:45
schestowitzI thought the same. He too does puff pieces for Gates, e.g. in WSJOct 26 13:45
schestowitzTimes Online=Murdoch, so yes. But it depends who hosts the show, tooOct 26 13:46
schestowitz<MinceR> apparently it is murdoch'sOct 26 13:46
ThistleWebthe site is terrible to try and find out the notes for that ep, and it's list of presentersOct 26 13:46
schestowitzThat's the first thing I asked myself too, cause the ol' man got ownership of many media companies in the UK and the British company can hardly even put a name on his mugOct 26 13:47
schestowitzThistleWeb: but many people agree with the presenterOct 26 13:48
schestowitzThat's what 'the' papers tell themOct 26 13:48
schestowitzWikileaks=~Al QaedaOct 26 13:48
schestowitzWikipedia=child pr0nOct 26 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Tip: Find the IP address of a virtual machine by Rich http://j.mp/dqnPJnOct 26 13:48
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schestowitzAcc to MurdochOct 26 13:48
ThistleWebI just thought it was an odd place to hear a tech reference, and kinda suss that it was in praise of gates and buffett, on the basis of their philanthropyOct 26 13:48
schestowitzI suppose you saw that sagaOct 26 13:48
ThistleWebyeahOct 26 13:49
ThistleWebI saw the NYT smear peice backfire in the comments the other dayOct 26 13:49
schestowitzGates=ringleader of rich people without which the fragile world would collapse...Oct 26 13:49
schestowitzThistleWeb: but that's NYTOct 26 13:49
schestowitzMurdoch linked wikipedia to child pr0nOct 26 13:49
schestowitzRepeatedlyOct 26 13:49
schestowitz<ThistleWeb> I just thought it was an odd place to hear a tech reference, and kinda suss that it was in praise of gates and buffett, on the basis of their philanthropyOct 26 13:50
ThistleWebI remember the story about the vigrin something, the album cover from like 1974Oct 26 13:50
schestowitzphilanthropitalismOct 26 13:50
schestowitzThey still get RICHEROct 26 13:50
ThistleWeband a lot of media jumped on that as child pornOct 26 13:50
schestowitzNo, they found other linksOct 26 13:51
schestowitzNot the Virgin KillerOct 26 13:51
schestowitzWikipedia has LOADS of onctributorOct 26 13:51
schestowitzYou just need to choose one which does something nastyOct 26 13:51
schestowitzlike Reiser  for LinuxOct 26 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Signup for the Tata Crucible contest in SG by Oct 28. Nice to see something that is non-trivial! http://tatacrucible.com/sg/ #fbOct 26 13:52
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ThistleWebI guessOct 26 13:53
schestowitzzoobab: in th doc you sent me: "14.30 – 15.00 Mr. Jean-Yves Art, Associate General Counsel, Microsoft Corporation"Oct 26 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Noticed an odd thing - none of the !Choqok issues I had with !Ubuntu are present in !Fedora - Beta 3 is in the F13 repo for a start :)Oct 26 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You'll have to forgive my surprise as long standing Ubuntu/Debian user - I didn't realise how far ahead Fedora is with adding new appsOct 26 13:53
schestowitzThistleWeb: someone near the top was wrongly accused of some kiddie pr0n somethingOct 26 13:53
schestowitz_wrongly_Oct 26 13:53
schestowitzFox span itOct 26 13:53
schestowitzAnd they glued the headlined and mental pictures they neededOct 26 13:54
schestowitzLike wikileaks=child molestation allgeations in BelgiumOct 26 13:54
schestowitzAnd rapes in SwedenOct 26 13:54
ThistleWebsounds about rightOct 26 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] David Gilmour to play one of Roger Waters' upcoming Wall shows http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/today/today_20101025-1053a.mp3Oct 26 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Internet economy is worth £100 billion a year - http://bit.ly/aJff0s rough figure, puts content industries' inflated "losses" in contextOct 26 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A Desktop is a Desktop and should be a Desktop by nicu http://j.mp/b0QRfDOct 26 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @glynmoody UK Internet economy is worth £100 billion a year - http://bit.ly/aJff0s rough figure, puts content industries' inflated "l ...Oct 26 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @robmyers What, Unity is not good enough for them as well if Harmony is another UIOct 26 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] NVIDIA GT 425M: Windows 7 Ultimate vs. Ubuntu 10.10: Back in August we looked at the gaming performance between Wi... http://bit.ly/aRMbcOOct 26 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://identi.ca/notice/57446948 "What app is used for ripping, since I have many CD's to rip......!kde "Oct 26 14:00
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schestowitz_logThat's where KDE is powerfulOct 26 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] M-x customize-variable RET default-farm-alist RET !emacsOct 26 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] More trouble in #JAVA World? http://is.gd/gkca7 and http://is.gd/gkcbOOct 26 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Nokia !N900 #PR1.3 just released – with #Qt4.7 and !Qt #Mobility http://is.gd/gkcj3Oct 26 14:17
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MinceRinteresting article in jwildeboer's dentOct 26 14:21
MinceRhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/25/doug_lea_oracle_jcp_stuffing/Oct 26 14:21
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MinceRsays the java TCK is not available for Harmony to useOct 26 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Qt 4.7 for !Maemo 5 released http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/10/25/qt-4-7-for-maemo-5-released/Oct 26 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] KDevelop 4.1 released http://lwn.net/Articles/411790/rssOct 26 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Hamas imposes lifestyle by force http://ur1.ca/26mhtOct 26 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] finally arrived in Berlin, only 2 hrs late #dbOct 26 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: !Gwibber to gain !Unity Quicklists, Geolocation Integration and more http://goo.gl/ses4Oct 26 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Qt #Quick looks interesting http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qt-maemo-4.7/qtquick.htmlOct 26 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz KSCD or Kaffeine. One of them does the job.Oct 26 14:40
schestowitz_log<MinceR> interesting article in jwildeboer's dentOct 26 14:44
*schestowitz hasn't used Java for a while, do doesn't mind much (though relatives use Java heavily)Oct 26 14:44
MinceRi'm not too happy about being limited to precompiled native code for legal reasons (as opposed to technical ones)Oct 26 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Behold, the Next Media Titans: Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon (Wired) http://bit.ly/dnAXrVOct 26 14:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @schestowitz Copy and paste will be included with SP1 ;)Oct 26 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Did you see this ? http://thenextweb.com/apple/2010/10/26/rumor-is-apple-looking-to-acquire-sony/Oct 26 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rumor: Is Apple Looking To Acquire Sony? .::. Size~: 102.88 KBOct 26 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Rogers Communications, this is what happens when you rip people off - http://ur1.ca/26mrlOct 26 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Ha, If you are attending PDC or at Microsoft and love Mono, .NET Open Source, Linux, MacOS, iPhone, Silverlight, Android or WP7Oct 26 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Guess one kind of love excludes the other, can't love M$ and Linux in the same sentence. or in real life.Oct 26 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Arrived at FSFE's Berlin office, a mere 9 hours after setting out for a 5.5 hour train tripOct 26 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] kids + inkscape = a winning combo! check out the work of these 5th year students' from Leeds, UK: http://2tu.us/2rwiOct 26 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @mairin Hey that's a great example for schools/teachers/kids everywhere. Nice :-)Oct 26 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Comcast Digital Subs Can Access Xfinity TV From Any ISP (PaidContent) http://bit.ly/c4b1piOct 26 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Why #mozilla Needs To Pick a New Fight: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/10/25/1554236/Why-Mozilla-Needs-To-Pick-a-New-FightOct 26 15:22
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/andriusbentkus/statuses/28786181753 "going to redmond doesn't make one an evil, free software hating person."Oct 26 15:25
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Cuanschestowitz: you hate free software now XDOct 26 15:26
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schestowitzsharewareOct 26 15:27
Cuanahh ya I hate shareware I mean GhayWareOct 26 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Topological insulators could help define fundamental constants (Physics World): http://bit.ly/aa8d2YOct 26 15:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] /@ender2070 killa feacha'Oct 26 15:30
Cuanparty in the UKOct 26 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/10/2010: Facts From London Stock Exchange, #webOS 2.0 Reviewed http://ur1.ca/26mz3 !techrights #roundupOct 26 15:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Sometimes it would be good to understand Russian http://ur1.ca/26mzk http://ur1.ca/26mzl #pdfreaders.orgOct 26 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Áîðüáà ñ ðåêëàìîé èëè äâîéíûå ñòàíäàðòû? .::. Size~: 63.33 KBOct 26 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Wolf Brigade http://ur1.ca/26mzyOct 26 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith should say If you are attending PDC or at Microsoft and love to put Mono/.NET in Open Source, Linux, MacOS, iPhone..Oct 26 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Bleach 294 !animeOct 26 15:35
Cuanany truth too android 3.0 being finished?Oct 26 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Compiz 0.9.2 Released With Minimized Live Window Previews, Natural Scale Mode; 0.9.4 News http://bit.ly/bW4hX5Oct 26 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jamie_love Some conservative EU MEPs unhappy with Commission dropping ball on GIs in ACTA: http://goo.gl/SWLu >>weren't GI's "definite"?Oct 26 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] When using !Choqok on the !Gnome, desktop, where do you configure the bubble notifications? I want to turn them off!Oct 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito sometime this morning, getting really good.Oct 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I think I figured out the notify switches in !ChoqokOct 26 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BitTorrent Still Dominates Global Internet Traffic - http://bit.ly/cpuO7f no real surprise #bittorrentOct 26 15:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] "Porting the Unity view to Compiz, comibing the Desktop and UNE editions, and defaulting to UNE for users who can run it" http://goo.gl/4szkOct 26 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] never before has accessibility been so important in Ubuntu's history - it is a common theme at this UDS :-) #ubuntuOct 26 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm rather enjoying doing these screencasts, now recorded another 2, ready to be uploaded !dpsOct 26 16:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Coalition tears up net snoop plan's £2bn price tag - http://bit.ly/csdly0 money no object when it comes to destroying liberty #impOct 26 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @mairin: kids + inkscape = a winning combo! check out the work of these 5th year students' from Leeds, UK: http://2tu.us/2rwiOct 26 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Hahaha LOL :-DOct 26 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rand Paul supporters pin down and curb-stomp MoveOn activist - video - http://bit.ly/avqjBp what brave men - only 3 vs a dangerous womanOct 26 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] More than #300 freedom fighters follow us now on Twitter. Madness? You call it madness? THIS IS #PIRACY!Oct 26 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who challenge J&K’s accession, should be put behind the bars - http://bit.ly/9JALOR India wants to emulate China, it seems #kashmir #tibetOct 26 16:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who challenge J&K’s accession,should be put behind the bars :BJP | GroundReport  .::. Size~: 30 KBOct 26 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Nina Paley really understands teh frees - http://ninapaley.com/mimiandeunice/2010/10/26/watermarkOct 26 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Any simplest tool for creating basic animation in SVG? #kids #svg http://bit.ly/aiP4b2Oct 26 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks ready to drop a bombshell on Russia - http://bit.ly/c0IRSK US "pass on a lot of material about Russia": new info race #russiaOct 26 16:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Climate-Ready Crop Patents Present Danger For Biodiversity, Group Says - http://bit.ly/bb7VgF kill #genepatents before they kill usOct 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how do you create 8bit game versions of tunes? !engadget !loOct 26 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Watch  » Blog Archive   » Climate-Ready Crop Patents Present Danger For Biodiversity, Group Says .::. Size~: 49.29 KBOct 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Linux Outlaws will be live tonight at 18:00 UTC 19:00 BST 20:00 CEST with another show. http://linuxoutlaws.com/liveOct 26 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Linux Outlaws will be live tonight at 18:00 UTC 19:00 BST 20:00 CEST with another show. http://linuxoutlaws.com/liveOct 26 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Civil liberties actions disappointing http://ur1.ca/26nkqOct 26 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] thank you @Opera for being sane in the one place I needed a browser to be. now support SVG on non-application/xhtml+xml docs and i’m peacyOct 26 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Listening to Dire Straits and preparing LO notes for the show later...Oct 26 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Minecraft in a German accent does sound like Mein Kraft, you can almost imagine a digital rewrite of history, and mindcrack used as a weaponOct 26 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] aka distract the defending armies so you can wander in unopposed and take their govt buildingsOct 26 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @eximious: Access to power for women in #freesoftware http://ur1.ca/26nl2 Got ideas? I'd like to hear them!Oct 26 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scrap the Interception Modernisation Programme? Of course, Minister, but first you really should read this - http://bit.ly/9QOMIk truth #impOct 26 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Busy, busy, busy..... and tired.... XxOct 26 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/babylon_5_the_great_war !loOct 26 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese Twitter user seized after supporting Liu Xiaobo - http://bit.ly/dgv0bs Middle Kingdom scared of a tweet? (via @rmack @nettechnews)Oct 26 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Everyone has !Flattr'ed this https://flattr.com/thing/38377/Minute-Memes right?Oct 26 17:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Fostering free software education: Free Technology Academy and !FSF partner to expand access to !fs master's degree http://ur1.ca/26o1e !gnuOct 26 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf Fostering free software education: Free Technology Academy and !FSF partner to expand access to !fs master's degree http://ur1.c ...Oct 26 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @fsf: Fostering free software education: FTA and FSF partner to expand access to fs master's degree http://ur1.ca/26o1e !gnuOct 26 17:30
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*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsOct 26 17:31
_Goblinbonjour, bonjour, bonjourOct 26 17:31
_Goblinschestowitz: Picked up Linux Format today at the newsagents.....great interview!  Nicely done!Oct 26 17:32
schestowitzTHanks. I haven't seen it yet.Oct 26 17:32
schestowitzI was just writing about Da CostaOct 26 17:33
_Goblinschestowitz: Its also nice that you can set the record straight without liars and trolls trying to distort what your view actually are.Oct 26 17:33
schestowitzAnd your blog encounters at the trainOct 26 17:33
schestowitzWith "Richard"Oct 26 17:33
schestowitzCussing on the way to work... at HTCOct 26 17:34
_Goblinschestowitz: He's been rather clever this time...Oct 26 17:34
_Goblinschestowitz: I love linux but......wrapped up far better than most wintrolls manage.Oct 26 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Burmese refugee is sceptical http://ur1.ca/26o45Oct 26 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] ♺ @fsf: Fostering free software education: FTA and FSF partner to expand access to fs [master program] http://ur1.ca/26o1eOct 26 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] back home, one more personal day, though. did read the blogosphere and got an unexpected dose of irony: sth called unity being divisive.Oct 26 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Nobel Peace Prize Winners Write Letter on Behalf of Liu Xiaobo http://ur1.ca/26o4k #china == #douchebagsOct 26 17:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nobel Peace Prize Winners on Behalf of Liu Xiaobo (updated) - James Fallows - International - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 90 KBOct 26 17:35
_GoblinI find myself defending Apple (on a diversity front) as he will use other products to distract from the Windows issue....that is often Linux, sometimes Apple.Oct 26 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Gemalto sues Google, HTC, Motorola and Samsung http://lwn.net/Articles/411852/rssOct 26 17:37
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_Goblinas Ive said to you before, regardless of allegations of Apple's behaviour, they have made a contribution to computing diversity,,,,having said that, I think there are some glaring issues which Apple needs to be challenged on.Oct 26 17:37
_Goblinand the app dictatorship is one where I believe the end-users suffers (usually unknowingly)Oct 26 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Time traveler with cell phone went to Chaplin film premiere http://ur1.ca/26inx !science #srslyOct 26 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Urges EU Data Protection Authorities to Call for the Repeal of the EU Data Retention Directive https://eff.org/r.4t5Oct 26 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linus warns of a short merge window http://lwn.net/Articles/411857/rssOct 26 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[peterb/@peterb] RT @fsf Fostering free software education: Free Technology Academy and !FSF partner to expand access to !fs master's degree http://ur1.c ...Oct 26 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Just put the deep heat on my back.....feels much better...Oct 26 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Got hold of Linux Format from the newsagents. Dr Roy Schestowitz is interviewed in it! Great interview, interesting read!Oct 26 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh thanks, that's what I did too and never regret. My macbook and mac both run #UbuntuOct 26 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] DoD Expanding Domestic Cyber Role - Defense News (Defense News): http://bit.ly/bTZ9OwOct 26 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana Well, doesn't surprise me that it's Ubuntu.... ;)Oct 26 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] we need accessibility testing to be a better part of the Ubuntu manual and automatic test suite - going to talk to the QA team #ubuntuOct 26 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] btw, the Floridian LoCo team did a *bang up awesome job* last night with the pizza party - they all rocked the house! #ubuntuOct 26 17:53
schestowitz<_Goblin> schestowitz: I love linux but......wrapped up far better than most wintrolls manage.Oct 26 17:54
schestowitzI saw the "I use Linux butt [sic]" tacticOct 26 17:54
schestowitz<_Goblin> I find myself defending Apple (on a diversity front) as he will use other products to distract from the Windows issue....that is often Linux, sometimes Apple.Oct 26 17:54
schestowitzYou may regret this laterOct 26 17:55
schestowitzApple is worth more than Microsoft nowOct 26 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Start here: http://identi.ca/notice/57392306Oct 26 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Steering committee of the poss.ly largest !fs project in Italian PA. Decided it will go GPL V3 :-) /me advising...Oct 26 17:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jonathan Nadeau (frostbite)'s status on Monday, 25-Oct-10 17:20:58 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.03 KBOct 26 17:55
schestowitzOne day it may be a great threat than Microsoft one dayOct 26 17:55
schestowitz<_Goblin> as Ive said to you before, regardless of allegations of Apple's behaviour, they have made a contribution to computing diversity,,,,having said that, I think there are some glaring issues which Apple needs to be challenged on.Oct 26 17:56
schestowitzThey do the opposite in the wayOct 26 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Salon Copenhagen Nov 15! Great line-up of speakers talking about open licensing models in business http://bit.ly/9CvsbTOct 26 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @carlopiana ew why? how do you deal with missing mouse buttons?Oct 26 17:57
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schestowitzThey narrow down choice within their own systemOct 26 17:57
schestowitz<_Goblin> and the app dictatorship is one where I believe the end-users suffers (usually unknowingly)Oct 26 17:57
schestowitzThat's AppleOct 26 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sultans of Swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!Oct 26 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] trying some very strange things with CSS. we'll see if it pans outOct 26 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh any negative implication? ;-) I also use Debian, running all my sensitive stuff on it. No outsourced services. FYIOct 26 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana No. I just think it's the right Linux for a Mac.Oct 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @mairin what missing button? I have two. I am missing middle button, but there's a hack.Oct 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] Canonical warming up to Qt, @segphault is doing stuff with QML: http://ur1.ca/26oazOct 26 18:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Qt could bring better third-party software to Ubuntu .::. Size~: 37.44 KBOct 26 18:02
_Goblinschestowitz: very true...but I mean from a diversity standpoint...people using a platform other than that of Microsoft's creation...Oct 26 18:03
_Goblinschestowitz: I personally don't use Firefox, but I think that one product opened the door from a more diverse browser selection for the end-user...I see Apple in the same way (in that its another choice)Oct 26 18:03
_Goblinschestowitz: completely agree there is much to question about Apple.  But these are questions more asked by those tech interested and I think if the mainstream user merely gets the message that you can live without Microsoft, then whatever they choose sends that message across.Oct 26 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @carlopiana that would be a missing button, wouldn't it?Oct 26 18:07
_Goblinschestowitz: and if you look people are starting to question choice and "lockin" if you look towards the amount of iphone users who want to jailbreak their phones, I think they are slowly starting to see the restrictive culture Apple and Microsoft can lock them in....I think (just as Nintendo saw with the Magicom) users are not prepared to be spoon fed anymore and I think thats great...knowledge is power and diversity is somethiOct 26 18:08
_Goblinng which I think the end-user is slowly starting to see the benefits of.Oct 26 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh it is. Moreover, there is a quite active community w/ hacks for the few gaping holes. Wife loves it.Oct 26 18:08
_Goblin* if you look at the peopleOct 26 18:08
schestowitzI'm surprised by how many people understand jailbreakOct 26 18:09
schestowitzEven very young peopleOct 26 18:09
_Goblinyeah...Oct 26 18:09
_Goblinits is refreshing.....I think the consumer is slowly becoming far more savvy...and thats a plethora of products not just in ITOct 26 18:09
schestowitzChoice is the wrong wordOct 26 18:10
schestowitzI'm not primarily pro-choiceOct 26 18:10
schestowitzChoice is the wrong trmOct 26 18:10
schestowitzObama or McCainOct 26 18:10
schestowitzThat's choiceOct 26 18:10
schestowitznot freedom/libertyOct 26 18:10
MinceRnot all choice is meaninglessOct 26 18:10
schestowitzWhichever you choose, it's a corpocracyOct 26 18:10
schestowitzI'm pro-freedomOct 26 18:10
schestowitzNEither Democrats or Republicans really offer thatOct 26 18:11
_GoblinI see what you are saying....but freedom (in respect of IT) I don't think will happen overnight and the steps taken to true computing freedom will begin with less restriction on the desktopOct 26 18:11
schestowitzChoice can be last mealOct 26 18:11
schestowitzLike the one before you get executedOct 26 18:11
schestowitzOr method of execution... that too is choiceOct 26 18:11
schestowitzIt's not freedomOct 26 18:11
_Goblintheres got to be a starting point.Oct 26 18:11
schestowitzChoice is positive word for something like selection of pathwayOct 26 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @samotham: new make art festival announced "in-between design" #FLOSS #Art # http://makeart.goto10.orgOct 26 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @mairin as I said, there is a hack, via a modifying key.Oct 26 18:12
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MinceRchoice is a command in m$-dos :>Oct 26 18:12
schestowitzswitch();Oct 26 18:12
_Goblinand for me personally choice is about not being forced down one route only....true choice may only mean one of a small selections, but as I say the road to true freedom has to be opened slowly to happen at all....Oct 26 18:13
schestowitzApple = !MicrosoftOct 26 18:13
schestowitzLinux = !proprietary rubbishOct 26 18:13
schestowitzI.e. Linux = {!Microsoft} & {!Apple}....Oct 26 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @galoppini AISL, the Italian Association of Free Software companies is born! http://bit.ly/aBiAHF #opensource #italyOct 26 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] SQL vs. NoSQL (Linux Journal): http://bit.ly/d4dwTqOct 26 18:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AISL, the Italian Association of Free Software companies is born! .::. Size~: 27.1 KBOct 26 18:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SQL vs. NoSQL | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 50.32 KBOct 26 18:13
schestowitzMoving to Apple is like moving between churchesOct 26 18:14
schestowitzOr passing a butt-raping "holy man" to another buildingOct 26 18:14
schestowitzIt doesn't solve the probleOct 26 18:15
schestowitzYou swap masters or victimsOct 26 18:15
schestowitzIBM tooOct 26 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @carlopiana having to press another key totally sucks though.Oct 26 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmm, dinner! Spaghetti with sweet onions and bacon chunks! :DOct 26 18:15
schestowitzNovell... the non-Linux partsOct 26 18:15
schestowitzOh no!!!Oct 26 18:15
schestowitzFood denting.Oct 26 18:15
schestowitzIt's like those people who dent going to bedOct 26 18:15
_Goblindoh!Oct 26 18:16
_Goblinthats me!Oct 26 18:16
schestowitzHeh.Oct 26 18:16
schestowitzNot going to bed is newsOct 26 18:16
schestowitzGoing to bed can be assumedOct 26 18:16
schestowitzCan't stay awake for more than 72 hoursOct 26 18:16
_Goblinah but the time in which one does that cannot.Oct 26 18:16
schestowitzNot without squinting or blinking a lotOct 26 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @carlopiana: ♻ @galoppini AISL, the Italian Association of Free Software companies is born! http://bit.ly/aBiAHF #opensource #italyOct 26 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Jobs: Seeking Proposals for CiviCRM Extranet for RDI: http://bit.ly/cbAyle in PacNW http://bit.ly/9XJLeK RFP: http://bit.ly/cQixvZOct 26 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RomiMaier: Miine voi fi la http://www.agora.ro/conferinta/solutii-new-business-saas-cloud-computingOct 26 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @andyc: !mint Excellent set of screencasts on Linux Mint from @thistleweb - http://thistleweb.co.uk/screencastOct 26 18:17
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: RDI | home   .::. Size~: 9.52 KBOct 26 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CiviCRM Forums - Seeking Proposals for CiviCRM Extranet for nonprofit in PacNW .::. Size~: 25.02 KBOct 26 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Soluţii New Business (Saas, Cloud Computing) | Agora.ro .::. Size~: 31.07 KBOct 26 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Digital Prism | Free As In Beard .::. Size~: 16.8 KBOct 26 18:17
_Goblinso from now and 72 hours I could go to bed...when I do its news! ;)Oct 26 18:17
schestowitz_logFree As In Beard, ThistleWeb?Oct 26 18:17
_GoblinlolOct 26 18:17
_Goblinthats goodOct 26 18:17
_Goblinbeards are free!Oct 26 18:17
ThistleWebI like wordplay, what can I sayOct 26 18:17
_Goblinand so are Gnutee'sOct 26 18:17
schestowitz_logFor guys they areOct 26 18:18
_Goblinyou haven't obviously been to some of the pubs I have then! ;)Oct 26 18:18
ThistleWebthat's the prob with wordpress, it asks for various titlesOct 26 18:18
schestowitz"There are some things money can't buy"Oct 26 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] EXCELENT GNU/Linux introductive course http://is.gd/gkCrj #gnu #linux #obsidian #ruteOct 26 18:18
schestowitz"For everything else there's Windows"Oct 26 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Chinese Twitter user seized after supporting Liu Xiaobo - http://bit.ly/dgv0bsOct 26 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @johnkoetsier: Boring & obvious ... Ray Ozzie's 'goodbye Microsoft' letter http://bit.ly/9B86QoOct 26 18:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Chinese Twitter user seized after supporting Liu Xiaobo | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 84.5 KBOct 26 18:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ray Ozzie's 'goodbye Microsoft' letter .::. Size~: 69.27 KBOct 26 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Signs of Defeat: #Microsoft Speaks About Invisible Windows, Not Existing Products http://ur1.ca/26oi7 #vapourware #vaporware #windowsOct 26 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] This is hilarious; news site gathering IP's to sue as a paywall http://bit.ly/cgoLPY #fail #hilariousOct 26 18:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Signs of Defeat: Microsoft Speaks About Invisible Windows, Not Existing Products | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.97 KBOct 26 18:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Local News Website Says You Need To Pay To Read Its Stories, Says It's Collecting Visitor IPs To Sue | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.76 KBOct 26 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @mairin I agree. I am using the keyboard most of times anyway, so there's little hassle, and you can always attach a traditional mouse..Oct 26 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Java Is Under Siege. Will Oracle Let It Burn?: Tech News « http://bit.ly/bfGuq6Oct 26 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] okay ifyou think you're hacking css is bad bizarre ways you're probably right. found a much simpler & elegant solutoin that works!Oct 26 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Tarus Balog (@MouthOfOpenNMS) on marketing an open source business (@opennms) http://bit.ly/d41bogOct 26 18:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marketing an open source business | opensource.com .::. Size~: 43.7 KBOct 26 18:32
schestowitzhttp://digg.com/news/technology/mac_os_x_lion_features_are_ubuntu_rip_off_muktwareOct 26 18:32
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schestowitz"Oct 26 18:32
schestowitzapple does not innovate - the legislate. Been like this for a while now.Oct 26 18:32
schestowitzIm not that bothered - it is very difficult to break the reality distortion field of their fans. So leave them to it.Oct 26 18:32
schestowitzBut one thing does annoy me is launchpad - just because of the name.Oct 26 18:32
schestowitzThere is already the bug tracking system / hosting / software collaboration at launchpad.net - using the same name brings confusion for us all.Oct 26 18:32
schestowitzIf it had been the other way around apples legal team would have been all over it.Oct 26 18:32
schestowitz"Oct 26 18:32
MinceRor they would have told their underlings at canonical to back off :>Oct 26 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana Quite active community of people who like to run up hills pushing stones....Oct 26 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Taliban talks may be failing http://ur1.ca/26ol0Oct 26 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New blog post: https://laurelrusswurm.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/procrastination/Oct 26 18:35
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schestowitzThey stole Jobsian clergy from AppleOct 26 18:35
schestowitzThe 'benevolent dictator' approach though also has Microsoft includedOct 26 18:35
schestowitzPearlyGOct 26 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Peek Into The X.Org Stack For Ubuntu 11.04: The general X.Org planning summit for Ubuntu 11.04 just ended at the... http://bit.ly/bMdTbaOct 26 18:37
schestowitzThis reminded me I should post about Apple...Oct 26 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A Peek Into The X.Org Stack For Ubuntu 11.04 .::. Size~: 19.38 KBOct 26 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] WePay Drops 600 Pounds Of Ice In Front Of PayPal Conference, Hilarity Ensues http://ur1.ca/26omwOct 26 18:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   WePay Drops 600 Pounds Of Ice In Front Of PayPal Conference, Hilarity Ensues  .::. Size~: 47.18 KBOct 26 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Oracle #OpenOffice.org vs. TDF #LibreOffice http://is.gd/gkFwi #oooOct 26 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @openattitude: 10 reasons why !Linux is the right choice for your family. | ZDNet http://ur1.ca/23i1bOct 26 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: WikiLeaks ready to drop a bombshell on Russia - http://bit.ly/c0IRSK US "pass on a lot of material about Russia" #russiaOct 26 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @easyeddy: Giving a demo of SAP BI 7.0 running on Citrix/FireFox/Ubuntu to a WinTel crowd. They're loving it.Oct 26 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @edythemighty: PuppyGames is offering 3 DRM-free Win/Lin/Mac compatible games for $5 http://www.puppygames.net/ !linuxOct 26 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ten reasons Linux is the best choice for kids | Desktop OS | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 41.98 KBOct 26 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle:         WikiLeaks ready to drop a bombshell on Russia. But will Russians get to read about it?  - CSMonitor.com     .::. Size~: 65.89 KBOct 26 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Puppy Games - Award winning retro arcade games .::. Size~: 11.09 KBOct 26 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Apple: Where Do You Want Not to Go Today? http://techrights.org/2010/10/26/links-for-apple-skeptics/ #apple #prison #hypepad #hypeosOct 26 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Signs of Defeat: #Microsoft Speaks About Invisible #Windows, Not Existing Products http://ur1.ca/26oi7Oct 26 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/411862/rssOct 26 18:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Signs of Defeat: Microsoft Speaks About Invisible Windows, Not Existing Products | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.97 KBOct 26 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] SysAdmins Gone Wild? Yeah, you heard us. http://bit.ly/bnPHwt #linuxOct 26 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Federal Court Upholds Amazon Users' #Privacy And Free Speech Rights https://eff.org/r.t86Oct 26 19:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Federal Court Upholds Amazon Users' Privacy And Free Speech Rights | American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 52.4 KBOct 26 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Climate researcher rebukes "consensus" dogma: http://judithcurry.com/2010/10/25/heresy-and-the-creation-of-monsters/Oct 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Federal Court Upholds Amazon Users' #Privacy And Free Speech Rights https://eff.org/r.t86Oct 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF Urges EU Data Protection Authorities to Call for the Repeal of the EU Data Retention Directive https://eff.org/r.4t5Oct 26 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heresy and the creation of monsters | Climate Etc. .::. Size~: 289.99 KBOct 26 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @fsf: Fostering free software education: FTA and FSF partner to expand access to fs master's degree http://ur1.ca/26o1eOct 26 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Federal Court Upholds Amazon Users' #Privacy And Free Speech Rights https://eff.org/r.t86 /by @effOct 26 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fostering free software education: Free Technology Academy and Free Software Foundation partner to expand access to master's program in free software and free standards &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.96 KBOct 26 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Ozzie's 'doomsday' memo warns #Microsoft of post-PC days http://is.gd/gkHWJOct 26 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Eye on Apple: Where Do You Want Not to Go Today? http://techrights.org/2010/10/26/links-for-apple-skeptics/ #appleOct 26 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @juanman: Red Hat hara los nuevos pasaportes en Argentina !linux !redhat ur1.ca/26or9Oct 26 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @eff Federal Court Upholds Amazon Users' #Privacy And Free Speech Rights https://eff.org/r.t86Oct 26 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Danny O'Brien (CPJ, ex-EFF) explains why the real problem revealed by #Firesheep is lack of #HTTPS, not open wifi. https://eff.org/r.t77Oct 26 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Protecting journalists from Firesheep - Internet - Committee to Protect Journalists .::. Size~: 39.2 KBOct 26 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How offshored software development and #Linux put the #London Stock Exchange ahead of its rivals http://is.gd/gkIwb #LSEOct 26 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] The Linux Outlaw are live with another show. Join us now! See http://linuxoutlaws.com/live for details.Oct 26 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Oh, that is quite cool! :)Oct 26 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Strata Week: Statistically speaking http://is.gd/gkIK7 #LSE #gnu #linuxOct 26 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: The Linux Outlaw are live with another show. Join us now! See http://linuxoutlaws.com/live for details.Oct 26 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Danny O'Brien (CPJ, ex-EFF) explains why the real problem revealed by #Firesheep is lack of #HTTPS, not open wifi. eff.org/r.t77Oct 26 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: Une faille de sécurité permet de téléphoner ou d'envoyer des emails sur un #iPhone verrouillé : http://ur1.ca/26owyOct 26 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Allegation: #Novell Has “Profit Motive for Pushing #Mono Everywhere” http://ur1.ca/26p1b #swpats #opencoreOct 26 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Facebook Launches an iPhone War from a Secret Bunker http://gawker.com/5673805/Oct 26 19:25
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MinceRi suspect m$ will have a word or two about dumbfuckbook using androidOct 26 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Rosegarden - An open source MIDI / audio multi-tracker (The H) http://lwn.net/Articles/411904/rssOct 26 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh: next time, maybe check the facts before assuming mal-intent ;-)Oct 26 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Allegation: #Novell Has “Profit Motive for Pushing #Mono Everywhere” http://ur1.ca/26p1b #swpats #opencoreOct 26 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] amuses me how some corners of the Open Source community assume mal-intent before good intent...we are all on the same side people!Oct 26 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] World’s first laptop, 25 years old and still running! http://ping.fm/YEADCOct 26 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Obama administration ignores UN advisories http://ur1.ca/26p4oOct 26 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I never assumed mal-intent. And the facts weren't available to me. As you might have noticed, I'm not in Florida. ;)Oct 26 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh it was in Mark's keynote, which is online, and you...y'know...could have asked me. :-)Oct 26 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Sorry for that. Didn't have time to watch the keynote yet....Oct 26 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh this is why I felt you assumed mal-intent, without checking facts - why bolster something you didn't have the facts on? anyway npOct 26 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Well, you could've put out some decent language explaining it. An hour long video isn't exactly accessible (excuse the pun). ;)Oct 26 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jonobacon shooting from the hip without checking facts? LUGRadio coming back?Oct 26 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh: http://is.gd/ghRup not good enough? :-)Oct 26 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @lh: #Portland Metro & @trimet looking for interns: improve Open Street Map, opentripplanner.org http://bit.ly/agMs0n << yay OSM!Oct 26 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Says nothing about accessibility.Oct 26 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: When is a security update not a security update? – When you’re a Windows user! http://tinyurl.com/2vyqb6o !windows !microsoftOct 26 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When is a security update not a security update?  When youre a Windows user! « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 39.47 KBOct 26 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Facebook Sues Faceporn, Apparently Believing It Owns The Words Face & Book http://ur1.ca/26p8vOct 26 19:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Sues Faceporn, Apparently Believing It Owns The Words Face & Book | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.89 KBOct 26 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] @jonobacon There's limited perspective in corners. And flames get more reads. Look elsewhere.Oct 26 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] RT @jonobacon amuses me how some corners of the Open Source community assume mal-intent before good intent...we are all on the same side ...Oct 26 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh: http://is.gd/ghRup went online the morning of the keynote and hit Planet GNOME and Planet UbuntuOct 26 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @thistleweb: zzzing!Oct 26 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon And it says nothing about accessibility I believe...Oct 26 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jonobacon lol ;POct 26 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh: ooh good point, I will write a blog post to clarify thisOct 26 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Cool. :)Oct 26 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @jonobacon so why must you seem to push in a totally different direction from the rest of the world?Oct 26 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: #Compiz Will Find It's Way Into !Ubuntu !Unity, Awesome! http://goo.gl/lrM6Oct 26 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I feel embarrassedOct 26 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @mmiicc ♺ @_achiang: #ubuntu font will be on display for 6 weeks in the london design museum starting in february. #uds !uOct 26 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Compiz supports no rendering backend for composite. This means that metacity is not needed for 2D experience. http://goo.gl/WuZY !unityOct 26 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's a shame we need the phrase "sound artist" at all. It means we're defining musicians far too narrowly, solely as tunesmiths in factOct 26 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Speaking of interfaces, virtual keyboards suck. Suck badly. Annoying, since most of my work involves typing. Damn touchscreen.Oct 26 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Quantum computing: Cheat Sheet (Silicon.com): http://bit.ly/bk7GayOct 26 20:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Pressure for Software Patents in Europe Carries On http://ur1.ca/26phc #swpatsOct 26 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Kicking the tires on Debian Squeeze http://ht.ly/19Edw1Oct 26 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Burmese refugee is skeptical http://ur1.ca/26pmiOct 26 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft Server 2008 R2 gets virtualization boost with release of SP1 (Network World): http://bit.ly/a22qFOOct 26 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Tuitar na China dá cadeia http://bit.ly/9aAiD1Oct 26 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] The final release of Fedora 14 is less than a week away! We hope your release party planning is going well!Oct 26 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ♺ @fedora: The final release of Fedora 14 is less than a week away! We hope your release party planning is going well!Oct 26 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google and !Linux / !Android Under Attack by #Microsoft Folks (More Lawsuits), #Mobbyists and Boosters Jubilant http://ur1.ca/26puh #swpatsOct 26 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes Got hold of Linux Format from the newsagents. Dr Roy Schestowitz is interviewed in it! Great interview, interesting read!Oct 26 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] You can find your closest Fedora 14 release party or let us know of one you're planning: http://ur1.ca/26pwjOct 26 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana I dream about [Libre¦Open]office and Etherpad. Could be a killer. Esp for inline/side comments and reviews.Oct 26 21:13
schestowitz_Goblin: got ekiga?Oct 26 21:13
schestowitzA reader mailed me today asking us to use SIP and now skypeOct 26 21:13
schestowitz[07:40] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [openbytes/@openbytes] On way to work.....think I've badly injured my back.Oct 26 21:15
schestowitzIs it OK now?Oct 26 21:15
_Goblinschestowitz: er I beleive it was defaultly packaged...but I removed it....I thinkOct 26 21:16
schestowitzI have itOct 26 21:16
schestowitzusername schestowitzOct 26 21:16
schestowitzMarti has it tooOct 26 21:16
schestowitzBut I never spoke to himOct 26 21:16
_GoblinI can throw it on again via the repro's if you need me on it...Oct 26 21:16
_Goblin*repoOct 26 21:16
schestowitzAnd I don't know if we can get a recorder for itOct 26 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @kernellogauthor Linus sent a reminder: Merge Window for 2.6.37 will end this weekend http://bit.ly/cGsy5z #linux #kernel #2637Oct 26 21:16
_GoblinahOct 26 21:16
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schestowitzFor some guests we'll need skype anywayOct 26 21:16
_Goblinwell skype does landline too...so we could get people via that way...Oct 26 21:17
_GoblinI'll happily foot the billOct 26 21:17
schestowitzBut we should set an example by using SIP and FS only (Audacity and such)Oct 26 21:17
_GoblinI think using Skype shows that we are not "zealots"Oct 26 21:17
schestowitzLet me see if we can get ekiga recorder tooOct 26 21:17
_Goblinas some suggestOct 26 21:17
schestowitzWe have ekiga people reading I thinkOct 26 21:18
_Goblinwell if theres a recorder...I'll be more than happy to switchOct 26 21:18
schestowitzIIRC dyfet's gnu telephony is used by ekiga or maybe components of itOct 26 21:18
schestowitz_Goblin: Ok, I'm checkingOct 26 21:19
schestowitzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=379704Oct 26 21:19
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schestowitz"I have one solution for recording calls you make with Ekiga. You can use Audacity (audacity.sourceforge.net) to record any audio that passes through your mixer / sound card. But, it's not ideal."Oct 26 21:19
_Goblinyeah I tried that...(just with a mp3 playing...)....I found it didn't work and the it sounded distant...since you got the recorder working I get up and didn't look any further.Oct 26 21:20
_GoblinI'll give that a go now....Oct 26 21:21
_Goblinyeah does the same....Ive messed around with alsamixer.....even put all settings to fulll.Oct 26 21:22
schestowitzCan't find the option there, but there's a mixer boardOct 26 21:22
_Goblinit did the same with audio recorder though so maybe its a Sabayon issue or an issue of my hardwareOct 26 21:22
_GoblinAudacity is a sweet package though.....so simple to use when pasting samples together.....Oct 26 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear telecom, if I ask mobile internet, I don't f want your f telephones. Just connection. Are you a Telco or a f phone shop? #wtfOct 26 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another !LO in the can. Off to play some #NewVegas before bed now....Oct 26 21:23
_Goblinand I mean sweat as in good not sweat as in cute!Oct 26 21:23
schestowitz_logfWe sweet?Oct 26 21:24
schestowitzOopsOct 26 21:24
schestowitzSweet or sweat?Oct 26 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Has someone got experience recording #ekiga calls? What tools? This one does not help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=379704 #audioOct 26 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Did I say "f"? Moi?Oct 26 21:25
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schestowitz[random chars in other window]Oct 26 21:25
schestowitzzoobab:Oct 26 21:27
schestowitzSo this is just a reminder - I'm trying to make sure that everybody isOct 26 21:27
schestowitzaware of the fact that in my 2.6.36 announcement, I was talking aboutOct 26 21:27
schestowitztrying to do a short merge window. Why? So that I could release -rc1Oct 26 21:27
schestowitzby the time the kernel summit started, despite the release of 2.6.36Oct 26 21:27
schestowitzbeing delayed.Oct 26 21:27
schestowitzzoobab: http://ipwatchdog.com/2010/10/25/uspto-and-epo-work-on-joint-patent-classification-system/id=12994/Oct 26 21:27
schestowitzQuinnOct 26 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nokia needs to move more quickly into !Linux now that it buries Symbian. Can MICROS~1NOKIA Elop do it?Oct 26 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @fabsh ♺ @brainvision: "Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms" - Groucho MarxOct 26 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana #Unity is a good concept for small screens, delivery is highly suboptimal IMHO. Desktop is dead anyway. Need s/thing new.Oct 26 21:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody RT @Glinner RT @wikileaks: FOX news editorial calls for WikiLeaks staff to be assassinated | Rawstory http://bit.ly/dtfAY6Oct 26 21:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @ender2070 Yes, sorted. See http://spot.livejournal.com/315383.htmlOct 26 21:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nicubunu ♺ @sparks I voted for my favorite name for !Fedora 15, have you? http://is.gd/gj4GDOct 26 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz if it ends up being Austurias I'm jumping shipOct 26 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz to fedora that isOct 26 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana Makes setting aside GPL rights a condition of receiving RHAT support.Oct 26 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn Agreed. Overdue for a fix IMO.Oct 26 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn even if the religion in question is software freedom?Oct 26 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think telling users that if they exercise !GPL rights, they lose support is *much* different from merely selling at high price.Oct 26 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,"if you do what !GPL says you can,your money is no good here" is how #RedHat described model to me in early 2000's. Has it changed?Oct 26 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, yes, I don't think a proprietary sw company must allow meeting on-site about software freedom, (but employees should quit anyway).Oct 26 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview With The Guy Who Embraced The 'Pirates' Of 4chan - http://bit.ly/9moLMu nice piece of work (in all senses) #piracy #4chanOct 26 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn do you find it #problematic to lose support if you modify !GPL software? See GPLv3 section 6, penultimate paragraph, sentence 1.Oct 26 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, No, but distributing unmodified copies is *different* than modifying. Don't try to change the subject to win the argument. :)Oct 26 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] ♺ @wikileaks: FOX news editorial calls for WikiLeaks staff to be assassinated | Rawstory http://bit.ly/dtfAY6Oct 26 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Lots of companies on this list doing things the open source way - "30 Places We Want to Work" via @GOOD | http://bit.ly/bdXsgaOct 26 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn why is it different? Both are fundamental !GPL freedoms.Oct 26 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've been getting a lot of "KINect" spam recently. I assume it's not sent by Microsoft, just its resellers and their black hatters.Oct 26 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, it's only non #problematic if your support fails to extend to modified version. You should still receive support for unmodified.Oct 26 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Where are the cuts in your country? - http://bit.ly/9fkiEY if you really want to know #cutsOct 26 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to some recent reports, maybe half a billion dollars get spent by Microsoft just to MARKET "KINect"Oct 26 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] VIP tix for EFF Pioneer Awards now on sale! Show your support of EFF and this year's award winners! https://eff.org/r.5tuOct 26 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, question of reasonableness: if one pays for support, taking it away from them merely b/c they copied software is unreasonable.Oct 26 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @glynmoody: Interview W/ Guy Who Embraced The 'Pirates' Of 4chan - http://bit.ly/9moLMu nice piece of work (in all senses) #piracy #4chanOct 26 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn whether you should receive support at all is outside the scope of the !GPL .Oct 26 21:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, it is, meanwhile, reasonable to say: "You can pay me to support Version Foo, but I won't support Version Foo' for any amount".Oct 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Agreed;that's why what #RedHat does isn't a !GPL violation, it's just a compliant-but-nasty business model that's barely tolerableOct 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn assuming that's true, that has nothing to do with software freedom, since no FLOSS license requires provision of supportOct 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, precisely why I said #RedHat "your money's no good here if you distribute" model is not *worse* than any proprietary relicensing.Oct 26 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn okay, I contend that Red Hat's model is better than proprietary relicensing, which is generally #evilOct 26 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i thought the point of the GPL was to protect your rights for software you've been provided.Oct 26 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, #RedHat support model is still #problematic & perhaps #disturbing. Certainly it's something that should be criticized regularly.Oct 26 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nintendo More Scared of Apple Than of Microsoft - http://bit.ly/dwxmAD which is right, but pretty incredible #nintendo #appleOct 26 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu Romanian Anticorruption Department (DNA) buys wiretapping equipment of RON 500,000, ignoring bigbrother scandal ... [.RO]Oct 26 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, that's correct. #Red_Hat support model is, AFAIK, *not* a !GPL violation, but it's still nasty & discourages exercise of freedom.Oct 26 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i don't understand that. how is it nasty?Oct 26 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, #RedHat tells its customers: "If you exercise your right to redistribute under !GPL, we will cancel your support contract". Nasty!Oct 26 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn in larger social context, Red Hat's model is positive bulwark against alternative FLOSS business models championed by someOct 26 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shakespeare in the Original Voice http://www.openculture.com/2010/10/shakespeare_in_the_original_voice.html via @glynmoodyOct 26 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Good Morni- err, Afternoon!Oct 26 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've read Usenet rumours that MS Office 2010 has compatibility issues with MacOS generated Office files or vice versa?Oct 26 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn software freedom implies freedom to be selective in providing support; nastiness arguments must be based on alternative criteriaOct 26 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn how is that a sustainable model?Oct 26 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if any customer can take the software + stream of updates and redistribute at will, there's no sustainable model thereOct 26 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if there's on sustainable model, there's no food on the table for GPL software devels = no new GPL softwareOct 26 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn so i dont really consider it nasty in the same way i consider wedding photographers wanting ownership of my grandma's image.Oct 26 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin,one uses intimidation to keep customers from engaging in redistribution, if support is otherwise good. CentOS exists b/c of this BTWOct 26 22:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn nobody benefits from my grandma's image. it won't make the photographer any more money to support him or provide to a commonsOct 26 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, using intimidation to keep customers from engaging in their rights under !GPL is a software freedom issue, even if not violation.Oct 26 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Watching Mark Shuttleworth' keynote at UDS-N: http://goo.gl/UMoHOct 26 22:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if you sign an agreement and break it, it's been broken. where's the intimidating language? maybe can be fixed?Oct 26 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if the customers don't feel the RH updates are worth paying for, then having those canceled shouldn't be an intimidating prospect...Oct 26 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i dont understand. you don't get support with centos...Oct 26 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thoughts on Tim Wu’s Master Switch, Part 2 - http://bit.ly/aQCOGF analysis overlooks fact it was people *fighting* that kept openness aliveOct 26 22:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AISL, the Italian Association of Free Software companies is born! - http://bit.ly/bL6CC9 forza AISL... #it #freeswOct 26 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @webmink No, that's incorrect. RHEL customers retain their !GPL rights in perpetuity.Oct 26 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @glynmoody Nintendo More Scared of Apple Than of Microsoft - http://bit.ly/dwxmAD which is right, but pretty incredible #nintendo #appleOct 26 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] think i’m becoming more articulate, only 16 comments to get a bug/feature request confirmed… #hah b.m.o #607441Oct 26 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Protocol on ABS Could Further Impoverish Indigenous Peoples, Groups Claim - http://bit.ly/aA9stX shameful comment from #canada #cbdOct 26 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn you're saying that for-profit companies can be 'intimidated'?Oct 26 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, actually, that is what *is* intimidating. "I like #RedHat service & I like freedom !GPL gives me. But, I have to chose btw those!"Oct 26 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @toros It's hard to admit, but !Kubuntu 10.10 is actually pretty awesome... >why is it hard to admit? !KDE works great for ones I convertOct 26 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn by your logic, even more intimidating to obtain free software from distributors who provide no supportOct 26 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, sure. The model works precisely b/c for-profit companies are afraid of losing support from their otherwise preferred vendor.Oct 26 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i don't understand how that's intimidating.Oct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn ok, I say that is not even close to being a software freedom issue. I invoke @rmsOct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jamie_love Senator Leahy's legislation on patent reform and orphan works is threatened by #ACTA provisions on damages>>more problemsOct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, My logic doesn't extend that way. I'm talking about actual action #RedHat takes by demanding agreement of no !GPL actions.Oct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Enable ‘Instant’ site loading in #Chromium daily build http://goo.gl/8XPSOct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if you buy one copy of RHEL and 'redistribute it' to 10,000 machines without SLAs, how do you expect RH to support you fairly?Oct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, shall we start a thread w/ @rms & ask him? I think he'll agree it's a nasty practice but not a !GPL violation. :)Oct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn that is not an accurate description of Red Hat's agreementOct 26 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu Font Family Uploaded To The Ubuntu 10.04, 9.10 And 8.04 Official Repositories http://bit.ly/b3Jam3Oct 26 22:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if i'm paying for support for 10k boxes, and some yahoo with 10k boxes is paying for 1, what about my rights?Oct 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, this is how the business model ended up being nasty (b/c r0ml did roughly that & demanded support for all nodes).Oct 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I know @rms uses the word 'nasty' a lot but I think for other kinds of things :-)Oct 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn sustainability is important. otherwise we have no software.Oct 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, I agree with you that the customer should pay for the support they use. Tying it to the node is what is nasty here.Oct 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn again, i don't see nastiness and intimidation, i'd like to know where that idea of the situation is coming fromOct 26 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Java Is Under Siege. Will Oracle Let It Burn? - http://bit.ly/dlwA4Y or just twist in the wind? #java #oracleOct 26 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn what would be a better solution to the r0ml situation?Oct 26 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, sustainability's not more important than software freedom. Many make that argument to justify all sorts of things (e.g. Open Core).Oct 26 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fontana from technical PoV, RHN sucks for sysadmins of non-network accessible servers, you should give paying customers login to https siteOct 26 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn not all of RH's support agreements are tied to the node. E.g. look at the virtual advanced platform productOct 26 22:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @ruiseabra I hear you, not really my area but I will pass that on :)Oct 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn do you know of workable alternatives to node-by-node?Oct 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Public.Resource.Org announces Law.Gov Report Contest: $10K in prizes; entries should use CC licenses or PD tools http://goo.gl/BcafOct 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, "Don't exercise software freedom or you can't ever come in this store". If you like my store,how's that *not* intimidating?Oct 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, that's the agreement #RedHat showed #FSF to find out if it was a !GPL violation. If it's changed, why not publish it publicly?Oct 26 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn the freedom to use something that doesn't exist is the other extreme thoughOct 26 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, when I did support, I charged by the hour. But the question of alternatives is unrelated to the discussion.Oct 26 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fontana I mean a site one can use a standard mirror tool to get updates, not the current https site :)Oct 26 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn where is red hat saying that? you want it for free, use fedora, use jboss.org. and they can be used in combo with paid RH products.Oct 26 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, "Doesn't exist"? That doesn't really have anything to do with this, unless #RedHat sells support for vaporware or something.Oct 26 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn it's honestly more like, 'if you make an agreement with us, please don't break it.' the agreement doesn't cover all free softwareOct 26 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, #RedHat said that in their support agreements in the early 2000s. If it's changed for the better, please do publicly post new ones.Oct 26 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn no, this is what i mean. far right: sustainability to the point of losing freedom. far left: freedom so far as no softwareOct 26 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, AFAIK,agreement requires the customer to agree *not* to do what !GPL allows. It's always nasty to ask people to give up sw freedom.Oct 26 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if you don't consider sustainability even a little, you won't have any software to worry about the freedom of i thinkOct 26 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn but worrying about sustainability to the point of losing freedom is totally missing the point as well, i agree with you on that 100%Oct 26 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, I am sure the #OpenCore folks will welcome your support of their proprietary relicensing arguments; you're making the same argumentOct 26 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn literally said "Don't exercise software freedom or you can't ever come in this store" ?????Oct 26 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, that's the same argument the !GNU manifesto refutes: whether or not programmers starve is not the question regarding sw freedom.Oct 26 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i'm not supporting either extreme in that statementOct 26 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, the one I was shown said something like:"if you engage in redistribution of software,your support contract is permanently canceled"Oct 26 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn the !GNU manifesto also makes clear that a wide variety of support/service business models are compatible with software freedomOct 26 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn they can redistribute them all they like if pay for the support of each one. no rights given up.Oct 26 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 3M claims ownership over purple http://ur1.ca/26qqb Aw well, if purple is already taken... #IntellectualMonopoliesOct 26 22:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, "pay for each copy"!?! !GPL certainly doesn't allow charging user *per copy*, Sure hope #RedHat support agreement doesn't say that!Oct 26 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I can't believe I'm using "business model" nonironically. Ick!Oct 26 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn it's not paying for each copy of *software*. it's paying for *support* of eachOct 26 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Loving the country and old-school rock'n'roll music in #NewVegas! :)Oct 26 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin,why should someone have to pay for support for all copies merely to get support for one copy? Not !GPL violation, but unreasonable.Oct 26 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn please don't use quote marks around things i didn't say, btw. it's not really fair, is it?Oct 26 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. The !lo !minecraft server has incoming bandwith of > 700kb/s for over four hours now....Oct 26 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn it's not objectively unreasonable, any more than charging large vs small amount of money for distribution (cf GPLv3 section 4 para 2)Oct 26 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn there's no permanence in the current version here https://access.redhat.com/site/help/terms_conditions.htmlOct 26 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, sorry about that. I thought that's what you said (you used a pronoun which I thought I expanded correctly but didn't.)Oct 26 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn why should someone have to support 10,000 copies of a piece of software when they were only paid to support 1? unreasonable.Oct 26 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Java Is Under Siege. Will Oracle Let It Burn? - http://bit.ly/dlwA4Y or just twist in the wind? #java #oracleOct 26 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, are you absolutely sure that's the *only* agreement one is required to sign to get Red Hat Enterprise Linux support?Oct 26 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn why does the person only want support for one copy? how do they intend to prove that it is only that copy they get support for?Oct 26 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] About a year ago there were many articles predicting trouble for Firefox, but it's doing OK. There is room for everyone.Oct 26 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, support shouldn't hinge on how many copies a customer has made, but how much support the need (i.e., why not charge by hour?)Oct 26 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn I believe @mairin has a point there. Actually you both have. From different viewpoints...Oct 26 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, they shouldn't *have* to prove how many copies they have or *don't* have of !GPL 'd software, that's really the point here.Oct 26 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn because RH support isn't just people sitting on a phone with you. certification, it's updates + automated update management,kbase etcOct 26 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] PDC schedule published as OData, but where's the iCalendar feed? (SQL Blog): http://bit.ly/bKSFd0Oct 26 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn not all of the support red hat provides is measurable in hours, unfortunatelyOct 26 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn think of it like an insurance plan. everyone pays into the pool so the occasional huge needs can be metOct 26 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed....Oct 26 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, Ok, I see that, but that doesn't prove it's reasonable to measure it by whether or not someone exercises their !GPL rights.Oct 26 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn paying by actual incidents is like paying full price for an ambulance ride & surgery - 24/7 on-demand sw eng is $$$$$$$$Oct 26 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz 3M claims ownership over purple http://ur1.ca/26qqb Aw well, if already taken... #IntellectualMonopolies // hello, #Cadbury?Oct 26 22:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @ender2070 http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-purpose-behind-engineered-economic-collapse cc @schestowitzOct 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn except the big difference is that everyone who paid into the pool (and folks outside of RH too) benefit from those fixesOct 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn certainly my brain surgery doesn't benefit anybody else lol... well wait aminute, maybe my dents would make more sense then :)Oct 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i'm not absolutely sure, that's the main document on the support website though.Oct 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn they shouldn't have to prove how many copies for the GPL. but they should for their support agreement. how can i support infinity?Oct 26 23:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, I'm *for* such insurance plans! Concern is: #RedHat acts like exercising #GPL rights is a preexisting condition & denies coverage.Oct 26 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, if the possibility of software sharing bothers #RedHat so much, it can always not use copylefted software in its products.Oct 26 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @schestowitz: Because I was teased on IRC yesterday evening that I already switched to Kubuntu and I will write a _very_ long post on it. :)Oct 26 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if you have 10 children who aren't covered on your insurance plan, you will be denied insurance coverage for them not youOct 26 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn problem is, if your 10 kids are triplets and you have coverage for one of them. reasonable for insurance co to ask for dna test?Oct 26 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn er not triplets. uhh... decalets?Oct 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, the amusing thing about this is that reliable #RedHat sources tell me Red Hat doesn't exercise this contract clause any more.Oct 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn sw sharing is obviously not a problem to red hat. you can't look at RH products in a vacuum. rh put out a lots of non productized swOct 26 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i really can't speculate on hearsayOct 26 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, the analogy here is canceling my health coverage b/c I exercised my free speech rights & got beat up b/c of it.Oct 26 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i find that an especially funny statement given the kinds of things rh pays me to do.Oct 26 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, I wasn't asking you to comment. The point I was making is that even #RedHat realizes it's a bad idea to fire their own customers.Oct 26 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn nothing to do with free speech. you exercised your right to have babies but you didn't pay to insure them allOct 26 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn if you want to exercise your right to drive a car in many states its required you must pay to insure it to be able to drive itOct 26 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] it seems that !ubuntuone file sync is down at the moment... the connection with the server keeps getting lost.Oct 26 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, IMO, allowing children to go without health coverage should be illegal, so that analogy doesn't work for me. :)Oct 26 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Water Ice Detected Beneath Moon's Surface http://ur1.ca/26r03 #APODOct 26 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] #Gwibber tip: When @bkuhn and @fontana get into a licensing discussion, uncheck "Display bubbles" if you need screen space for anything elseOct 26 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, that's a really bad analogy too. Are you saying my right to copy #GPL'd software should be contingent on licensing & insurance?Oct 26 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn red hat tries hard (sometimes too hard IMHO) to not be a jerk, so if that's true it honestly wouldn't surprise me but i have no ideaOct 26 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, as I understand it, r0ml's aggressive attitude (which I also agree wasn't warranted) inspired overreaction by #RedHat.Oct 26 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn no. i'm saying, you can do what you want, but you can't expect insurance companies to go along with it :)Oct 26 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @mairin, that's a fair point & why I don't think #GPL should be changed to prohibit this. But I still think it's not fair treatment.Oct 26 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn which terms are nasty? can you give specifics?Oct 26 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i'm guessing it wouldn't be there unless it had been abused.Oct 26 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Bored and pissed off. Why are most days always shitty for me?Oct 26 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i like to think people in the world are generally well-meaning and fair. but i drive a car in boston - i can't!Oct 26 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn i personally think it would be very nice if the clause wasn't there, but i also believe that if it wasn't a lot of abuse would happenOct 26 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Federal Circuit: Patentability of Isolated Genes - http://bit.ly/dt09WO Myriad appeals (not to me, mind...) #genepatents #myriadOct 26 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn the thing is, software is mostly static bits and sharing it doesn't hurt anybody. but people's time & energy is a finite resourceOct 26 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @bkuhn I don't think you understand the !GPL you can sell it all you want. RMS sold emacs disks via mail at one point. Free software != $0.0Oct 26 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ender2070, I sure hope I understand the !GPL, since I helped write v3. We're discussing a finer point of a business model that GPL permits.Oct 26 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @bkuhn also to be fair, RH has plans like our campus site license subscription so not all RH sw falls under this, and not all RH products doOct 26 23:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] #fsf @bkuhn is nuts, he wants the GPL to prohibit selling software !crazy (free software doesn't mean it's free of cost) http://ur1.ca/26r29Oct 26 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Limewire Shuts Down After Losing Court Battle With the RIAA - http://bit.ly/dwUWWF oh, look, another mole pops up... #limewire #riaaOct 26 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ender2070, you're very confused. I said throughout discussion & in URL you link to: !GPL does & should permit #RedHat's nasty service termsOct 26 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] !Fedora 14 RC1 has been declared GOLD and will be released Nov 2! Less than one week to go...Oct 26 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ender2070, question under debate is whether or not the business model is harmful since it intimidates users into not exercising !GPL rightsOct 26 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @mairin he is against companies selling updates per pc, even though the source is available for free as in beer (CentOS is a proof) #gplOct 26 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @ender2070 there's a lot more to the support provided by red hat than just updates.Oct 26 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ender2070, I'd much appreciate an apology for your misrepresentation of my position. I didn't say anything near what you claim I'm saying.Oct 26 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: RDFa Core 1.1 http://ow.ly/19Eo33Oct 26 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Web Content Transformation Proxies 1.0 Retired http://ow.ly/19Eo35Oct 26 23:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: SOAP over Java Message Service 1.0 http://ow.ly/19Eo32Oct 26 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of File API: Directories and System Published; Two APIs and Widget Requirements Updated http://ow.ly/19Eo34Oct 26 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of Navigation Timing Draft Published http://ow.ly/19Eo31Oct 26 23:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @bkuhn You implied as much when you said it should be charged per hour not per pcOct 26 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ender2070, I most certainly did not. #GPL does *not* stipulate one must have permission collect money on copies made after I sell you one.Oct 26 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @ender2070, in fact, once I've distributed to you, I have no right whatsoever to collect further funds no matter how many copies you make.Oct 26 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Glengarnock railway station it isOct 26 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Looks like the only mind-altering substance I have left is caffiene. Oh well :(Oct 26 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] LLVM's Clang Is Onto Building The Linux Kernel: In February of this year the Clang C/C++ compiler for LLVM hit the... http://bit.ly/90VGkPOct 26 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] /me thinks basic tiling support should be part of the ewmh standardOct 26 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] talk about back to my roots....thanks to Telnet Im enjoying taking a trip down memory lane on a BBS...been visiting Monochrome..great stuff!Oct 26 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] Fuck lady gaga. She can go to hell along with that beiber fag. I prefer real music, thanks.Oct 26 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I wonder why in all this time Ive never really kept up with the BBS....shame...I was lured by the net....Oct 26 23:50
_GoblinWell Ive had a lovely retro night tonight.....Oct 26 23:51
_Goblingoing back to the BBS....interesting stuff.Oct 26 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @bkuhn If I sell you Fiction Linux 1.0 I have to give you 50 disks for one price? That's crazy!Oct 26 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @openbytes http://homeward.homestead.com/ - still online, still running os/2Oct 26 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @ender2070 Cheers! I can't believe Ive ignored the BBS for so long, Ive had a very nice retro night! I'll check out your link, thanks!Oct 26 23:53
Ender2070I wonder if RMS ever used BBS'sOct 26 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] It's ironic how i'm always set to "Away" on xmpp, because in reality I'm always "somewhere else".Oct 26 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] GStreamer: Past, present, and future http://lwn.net/Articles/411761/rssOct 26 23:56
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_GoblinEnder2070: Im just looking at your link...Oct 26 23:57
_GoblinEnder2070: its probably the best maintained Ive seen so far....Oct 26 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[speeddefrost/@speeddefrost] I'm not here right now. I'm swimming around in my head completely ignoring everything else.Oct 26 23:58
_GoblinEnder2070: I wonder, if p2p is hit hard by IP enforcement, Usenet providers threatened and IRC servers had pressure put on them, I wonder - Could the BBS be the future of the warez scene, with only the "l33t" few having the access? - food for thought....and we've already seen a rise in Usenet and IRC useOct 26 23:58
_GoblinI wrote a while ago that the old techs could make a comeback......you never know!!!! wishful thinking or element of truth?Oct 26 23:59

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