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Tekk_ | I would... | Oct 28 00:00 |
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Ender2070 | lol | Oct 28 00:00 |
schestowitz | I don't even think Satan WORSHIPPER is NECESSARILY just an analogy or metaphor | Oct 28 00:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Confirmed to keynote at Open Source Symposium in Rotterdam on Novermber 11: http://icio.us/p2f3u2 | Oct 28 00:00 | |
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schestowitz | Either way, FOSS is no church, it's hardly theistic... mostly scientists | Oct 28 00:01 |
schestowitz | I don't know many lawyers or actors who can also code | Oct 28 00:01 |
Ender2070 | Micosoft Florian is an actor/coder | Oct 28 00:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dreamed up this groping to protect the public?": http://icio.us/kqc0s4 | Oct 28 00:02 | |
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Ender2070 | hes a bad actor though, tries to play the part of someone against patents, and fails | Oct 28 00:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ton Roosendaal, Sintel Producer and head of Blender Institute http://ur1.ca/2728q Fantastic work, thanks to the Sintel team! | Oct 28 00:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RedMonk Analytics: What Operating Systems are Developers Using? http://ur1.ca/272ld Lots of !GNU !Linux | Oct 28 00:13 | |
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schestowitz | <Ender2070> hes a bad actor though, tries to play the part of someone against patents, and fails | Oct 28 00:21 |
schestowitz | He was good at firt | Oct 28 00:21 |
schestowitz | He was good at first | Oct 28 00:21 |
schestowitz | Then he stopped playing/acting | Oct 28 00:21 |
Ender2070 | I called him on it almost immediately | Oct 28 00:21 |
schestowitz | Just lobbying | Oct 28 00:21 |
schestowitz | It started with TurboHERCULES | Oct 28 00:21 |
Ender2070 | yes i remember | Oct 28 00:21 |
Ender2070 | i called him on it | Oct 28 00:22 |
schestowitz | Mr. HERCULES versus little IBM | Oct 28 00:22 |
schestowitz | I did too | Oct 28 00:22 |
schestowitz | But then he mailed me many times | Oct 28 00:22 |
Ender2070 | same | Oct 28 00:22 |
schestowitz | I soon exposed him again, then presented both sides for a while | Oct 28 00:22 |
schestowitz | Then he started attacking FSF, Groklaw, even FFII | Oct 28 00:23 |
schestowitz | he stopped acting | Oct 28 00:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz #mobbyists lobby for #swpats again. http://identi.ca/conversation/57010184#notice-57523424 Funny. | Oct 28 00:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Hrm, gnome-shell identica extension. Either that, or making some more bread | Oct 28 00:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu Bucharest under siege today: 40,000 Romanians against totalitarian Băsescu-Boc regime http://is.gd/gn7mi | Oct 28 00:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Massive drought in South America http://ur1.ca/273xi | Oct 28 00:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice new http://fedoraproject.org/ page just in time for Fedora 14 due out November 2nd. #fb | Oct 28 00:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johndrinkwater but #Gemalto also worked with !Linux and is a Microsoft partner . #swpats #patent #monopoly #loser | Oct 28 00:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Oops, no yeast. That precludes the identica extension then | Oct 28 00:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @renata: Tomorrow don´t forget to follow @fcforum and watch the oXcars: http://oxcars10.exgae.net/en/live/ | Oct 28 00:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] c | Oct 28 00:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Apple+Sony (PS+hypePhone) would never work. Apple customers may struggle with more than a single button. | Oct 28 00:37 | |
Ender2070 | lol | Oct 28 00:43 |
Ender2070 | One button good, two buttons bad! | Oct 28 00:43 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Russia developing alternative OS to Windows http://ur1.ca/27414 !gnu !linux duh. Da? In Russia, operating system develops country. | Oct 28 00:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Russia to create 'Windows rival' http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101027/tc_afp/russiagovernmentinternet Good that it's still on the agenda | Oct 28 00:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: I bought a performa in 1995/96 and was convinced at the time that one button on the mouse was a sign of superiority x2idiocy | Oct 28 00:43 | |
schestowitz | In mice too | Oct 28 00:43 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[throckmortonqdirktwister/@throckmortonqdirktwister] P2P is not a crime. http://t.co/ZMAkhwD !pp !telecomix !techrights | Oct 28 00:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @schestowitz Intel were anti-comp. wrt AMD and work on X.Org, Meego, etc … plenty of companies work on Linux and make dick moves #justsayin | Oct 28 00:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bruce89 What I'd like to know is whether hatred of gnome-shell is just fear of change > we change every minute | Oct 28 00:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @johndrinkwater yup | Oct 28 00:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost och, if only I could, it would be nice though | Oct 28 00:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @schestowitz I was thinking about the furore that there was about #Pidgin getting rid of the resize grip for the entry | Oct 28 00:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dreamed up this groping to protect the public?": http://icio.us/kqc0s4 | Oct 28 00:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Like to feel people up close and personal? Join the TSA. They now have 'naked scanners', too. The price? Our liberty. | Oct 28 00:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I wish more Linux applications were made with thought for OTG users. OTG-other than Gnome | Oct 28 00:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cynicism: Airport 'naked scanner' = preview windows for TSA officers to select who to strip-search; can one opt out? | Oct 28 00:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz no, denying our security officers a feel means the terrorists win | Oct 28 00:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Window/Aisle, smoking/non-smoking, omelette breakfast/cheese, business/coach, naked search/"no thanks, I'm not a TERROR~1" | Oct 28 00:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Terrorism is an international plot to get the TSA to view and to touch people of the same gender without their clothes on. | Oct 28 00:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Screencast Episode | Giver http://bit.ly/9DfgUh #LinuxMint !dps | Oct 28 00:58 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/57552928 "@schestowitz Don't fly? :/" | Oct 28 01:00 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Begrudgingly ordered a replacement camera battery charger, hopefully before #60163 Tornado is at !Glasgow | Oct 28 01:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @tekk no, denying our security officers a feel means the terrorists win | Oct 28 01:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Jimmy Carter on Beeb 24 hour news now. A president that history will be much kinder about than recent and present interests. #Topbloke | Oct 28 01:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @schestowitz Terrorism is an international plot to get the TSA to view and to touch people of the same gender without their clothes on. | Oct 28 01:02 | |
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Ender2070 | I should be up on the ambassador list soon | Oct 28 01:06 |
Ender2070 | for fedora | Oct 28 01:06 |
Ender2070 | I had to put in my latitiude and longitude so it knows where I am | Oct 28 01:06 |
Ender2070 | damn trolls | Oct 28 01:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Do tell me, is there any USB peripheral I can "script" a (long) series of keypresses on? Like pasting an SH script over a terminal? | Oct 28 01:08 | |
oiaohm | I have lied on that before. Ender2070 | Oct 28 01:10 |
oiaohm | I like the great Australian bite my self as a latitude and longitude to put if anyone goes looking for me they will get wet. | Oct 28 01:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: RedMonk Analytics: What Operating Systems are Developers Using? http://ur1.ca/272ld Lots of !GNU !Linux | Oct 28 01:17 | |
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Tekk_ | looking at that | Oct 28 01:19 |
Tekk_ | I'd like to see how many of those are actually working, mac vs GNU/Linux/windows | Oct 28 01:19 |
Tekk_ | GNU/Linux vs windows | Oct 28 01:19 |
oiaohm | Tekk_: There is a missing factor in those compares. | Oct 28 01:22 |
Ender2070 | I used the latitude/longitude of my city, didnt bother pinpointing out my house | Oct 28 01:23 |
oiaohm | Kdevelop. Its better with javascript and php than what elcsipe is. | Oct 28 01:23 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: which is? | Oct 28 01:23 |
Tekk_ | oh | Oct 28 01:23 |
Tekk_ | and emacs | Oct 28 01:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @schestowitz: Terrorism is an international plot to get the TSA to view and to touch people of the same gender without their clothes on. | Oct 28 01:23 | |
Ender2070 | kdevelop owns even more now | Oct 28 01:23 |
Ender2070 | git integrated | Oct 28 01:23 |
Tekk_ | I bet a lot of OS devs will end up using emacs or vi(m) | Oct 28 01:23 |
oiaohm | No emacs and vim are old school developers. | Oct 28 01:24 |
oiaohm | Ones who are not use to GUI. | Oct 28 01:24 |
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Ender2070 | old school developers used punch cards | Oct 28 01:25 |
Ender2070 | what are you talking about | Oct 28 01:25 |
oiaohm | Ok I was not refering to the dinos Ender2070 | Oct 28 01:26 |
Tekk_ | Ender2070: old school developers use wires and vacuum tubes | Oct 28 01:26 |
oiaohm | I was refering from the point in history where we got sanity of keyboards and screens. | Oct 28 01:26 |
Tekk_ | oh, want to add 3 and 4 instead of 4 and 4? just gimme a second to rewire everything XD | Oct 28 01:26 |
Ender2070 | what about sanity of gui's | Oct 28 01:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] #BSOD grounds ICBMs: thank God North Korea didn't find out!http://ur1.ca/274c2 #jokes #windows | Oct 28 01:27 | |
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oiaohm | Gui's have exists in one for or another that complete time. Ender2070 | Oct 28 01:27 |
Ender2070 | Stardock runs (or used to run) its own IRC server, they purchased the software so they could run it on windows | Oct 28 01:27 |
Ender2070 | anywho, I found out it was written in VB | Oct 28 01:28 |
Ender2070 | how terrible of a server | Oct 28 01:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 27/10/2010: Many Developers Choose !GNU !Linux Desktops, Russia Moves to GNU/Linux Desktops http://ur1.ca/274d3 | Oct 28 01:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Vietnam "Pentagon Papers" whistleblower praises Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/274d8 | Oct 28 01:28 | |
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oiaohm | I hope it use to run Ender2070 | Oct 28 01:30 |
oiaohm | There are plenty of C and C++ IRC servers for Windows these days. | Oct 28 01:31 |
Ender2070 | it dropped people when there were too many on | Oct 28 01:31 |
Ender2070 | not with any pattern it was all random | Oct 28 01:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rcweir And those who know enough to avoid the problem also know enough to avoid relying on what SC34 says about OOXML #sc34 | Oct 28 01:32 | |
Tekk_ | Ender2070: took too much memory probably... | Oct 28 01:32 |
oiaohm | No there is a pattern. Ender2070 | Oct 28 01:32 |
Ender2070 | it wasn't a hardcoded limit | Oct 28 01:32 |
oiaohm | Took me ages to find. Its a signature of VB bytecode engine. | Oct 28 01:32 |
Ender2070 | this was back in 2004 as well | Oct 28 01:33 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: for classic I assume | Oct 28 01:33 |
oiaohm | Until vb changed to .net it was just a bytecode language wrapped up in a exe. | Oct 28 01:33 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: that's what .net is.... | Oct 28 01:33 |
oiaohm | vb was it first. Tekk_ | Oct 28 01:34 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: lisp did it first :P | Oct 28 01:34 |
oiaohm | But the pattern is the same from the first vb exe until it changes to vb.net | Oct 28 01:34 |
oiaohm | First person to connect will be the last dropped. | Oct 28 01:35 |
oiaohm | Yes pure evil for a network application. | Oct 28 01:35 |
Ender2070 | yeah it was evil | Oct 28 01:35 |
Ender2070 | and they paid for that | Oct 28 01:36 |
oiaohm | Ie first person connect loads the server to hell and no one else can get in. | Oct 28 01:36 |
oiaohm | Yes DOS target. | Oct 28 01:36 |
Ender2070 | some of their games had terrible back doors programmed into them | Oct 28 01:36 |
oiaohm | Change to VB.net the stack gets sanity. | Oct 28 01:36 |
Ender2070 | security wise | Oct 28 01:36 |
Ender2070 | ie lack of | Oct 28 01:37 |
oiaohm | Yet I have seen applications fail completely due to depend on old VB design to protect database access. | Oct 28 01:37 |
oiaohm | Ie first connect from the vb application be database. | Oct 28 01:37 |
oiaohm | But with vb.net unless you define rule its first on most likely first off. | Oct 28 01:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @greve "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. [...] | Oct 28 01:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @greve "[...] Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard Shaw. | Oct 28 01:38 | |
oiaohm | Tekk_: Ok lisp wrapping a bytecode inside exe? Most vb applications are basically stubed. The runtime dll decode the bytecode at runtime. It why they are so slow. | Oct 28 01:40 |
oiaohm | Yes vb x86 disasmble protected from. | Oct 28 01:40 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: oh wait, that was probably smalltalk. I think lisp actually made binaries | Oct 28 01:40 |
oiaohm | Last time I looked at this vb was one of the rare things todo this. | Oct 28 01:41 |
oiaohm | Most other things built proper cpu code when they build binarys. | Oct 28 01:41 |
oiaohm | Or use a different extention with a independant loader. | Oct 28 01:41 |
oiaohm | Ie java | Oct 28 01:41 |
Ender2070 | I had a friend who wrote a trojan in VB for his highschool cs class | Oct 28 01:42 |
oiaohm | Basically vb is the proto type of what .net is. | Oct 28 01:42 |
Ender2070 | Visual Basic 6 though | Oct 28 01:42 |
Ender2070 | back then | Oct 28 01:42 |
Ender2070 | I remember him rambling on about how great C# would be because Microsoft made it | Oct 28 01:43 |
oiaohm | 1994 highschool I was written asm bios addons to make sure laptops got returned. | Oct 28 01:43 |
oiaohm | Yes simple thing laptop don't return to school in 60 days don't boot. | Oct 28 01:43 |
oiaohm | Plug into a custom printer plug reset timer. | Oct 28 01:43 |
Ender2070 | 1994 I was in Grade 4 | Oct 28 01:44 |
Ender2070 | Playing around with C64's at school | Oct 28 01:44 |
Diablo-D3 | in 1994 I was... hrm | Oct 28 01:44 |
Diablo-D3 | I dunno | Oct 28 01:44 |
oiaohm | Then I went to Uni and they had us using pascal because you could not write speggiti code in that. | Oct 28 01:44 |
Ender2070 | and | Oct 28 01:45 |
Diablo-D3 | I think I was just starting to learn C then | Oct 28 01:45 |
Tekk_ | In 1994 I was -1 years old... | Oct 28 01:45 |
Ender2070 | there was a network, where 30 students shared a single 486 machine running Unisys Iconix | Oct 28 01:45 |
oiaohm | Yep when the lecture saw some of my highschool highly optimised pascal he almost could not believe it. | Oct 28 01:45 |
Ender2070 | just a bunch of monitors with ethernet jacks and keyboards attached | Oct 28 01:45 |
oiaohm | Heavy use of labels and goto's. | Oct 28 01:45 |
oiaohm | Pure speggiti but run like the bat out of hell compared to OOP code. | Oct 28 01:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Obama has just gone on national telly and for good reason.. A USA citizen was discovered not wearing Old Glory on lapel or jacket arm! | Oct 28 01:47 | |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: does that mean function pointers in structs instead of classes is a bad idea in C? :P | Oct 28 01:47 |
oiaohm | My high school of 200 in 1994. 26 XT machines. 20 486 in the computer lab. In typing room 6 mac classics pulse and other 4 386s, And another 3 computers in the graphics class. And remember this was a public school. | Oct 28 01:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Should I sell my Sigma 120-400 | Oct 28 01:48 | |
oiaohm | Tekk_: C does not have classes. So structs are used to replace them. Not really a bad idea. Used the wrong way bad. | Oct 28 01:49 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: structs do not replace classes | Oct 28 01:49 |
oiaohm | You have not done OOP in C. Tekk_ | Oct 28 01:50 |
Tekk_ | and there's no way structs can "replace" them, modern OO wasn't created until years later :P | Oct 28 01:50 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: I've used function pointers in structs, if that's what you mean | Oct 28 01:50 |
oiaohm | Modern OOP was desgined using structs. | Oct 28 01:50 |
Tekk_ | hardly real OO, but it let me do my beloved Thing.Function() | Oct 28 01:50 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: yes | Oct 28 01:50 |
oiaohm | You have to use support functions and other evil using structs to replace modern OOP in C | Oct 28 01:51 |
oiaohm | Its doable but evil. | Oct 28 01:51 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: I'd love to know how you choke inheritance out of C | Oct 28 01:51 |
Tekk_ | actually learning how to do OO in C may actually be helpful, since I'm making a game in C | Oct 28 01:52 |
oiaohm | Without inheritance and polymophic you can do most of OOP in C just with function naming and simple structs. | Oct 28 01:53 |
Ender2070 | My high school we started off with Pentium 75's running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and Novell Netware | Oct 28 01:53 |
Ender2070 | 16 mb of ram on each and probably one gig drives | Oct 28 01:53 |
Tekk_ | yeah, a naming convention can more or less replace classes without inheritance and poly | Oct 28 01:54 |
oiaohm | When you get to inheritance and polymophic. You need to using function pointers and the like between structs. | Oct 28 01:54 |
Ender2070 | 1999 lol | Oct 28 01:54 |
oiaohm | And management init functions. Tekk_ | Oct 28 01:54 |
oiaohm | Yes the code turns ugly. | Oct 28 01:54 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: C usually turns ugly when you get big | Oct 28 01:55 |
Tekk_ | like bash | Oct 28 01:55 |
Ender2070 | remember y2k | Oct 28 01:55 |
Ender2070 | ROFL | Oct 28 01:55 |
oiaohm | Really C does not have to turn ugly when it gets big. Tekk_ | Oct 28 01:55 |
Ender2070 | what a scam | Oct 28 01:55 |
Tekk_ | "You know I lost her in the y2k bug"~ College Humor | Oct 28 01:56 |
Diablo-D3 | speaking of y2k | Oct 28 01:56 |
Diablo-D3 | whatever happened to aftery2k | Oct 28 01:56 |
Ender2070 | my teacher and I had joked about it so much in 1999 because even my 386 used four digit dates | Oct 28 01:56 |
Tekk_ | speaking of y2k, anyone remember that episode in dilbert? | Oct 28 01:56 |
Diablo-D3 | the chick doing that webcomic sorta quit | Oct 28 01:56 |
oiaohm | 2038 is the one to worry about. | Oct 28 01:57 |
oiaohm | In the Unix 32 bit time fault. | Oct 28 01:57 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: that's less of a problem than y2k :P | Oct 28 01:57 |
oiaohm | Really | Oct 28 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | actually, I think linux fixed that | Oct 28 01:57 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: were you using a 32 bit CPU in 1970 | Oct 28 01:57 |
Ender2070 | yeah it did | Oct 28 01:57 |
Tekk_ | ? | Oct 28 01:57 |
Diablo-D3 | kernel internally does >32bit | Oct 28 01:58 |
oiaohm | Firewall routers coded to drop old packets. | Oct 28 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | people just have to use the new gettime() when it comes out | Oct 28 01:58 |
Tekk_ | NOTHING is going to be 32 bit by then | Oct 28 01:58 |
oiaohm | We hope not Tekk_ | Oct 28 01:58 |
Ender2070 | but oiaohm those routers wont support IPV6 anyways | Oct 28 01:58 |
Ender2070 | we're running out of IPV4!!!11!1 | Oct 28 01:58 |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, in 2038 ipv4 will be discontinued | Oct 28 01:58 |
oiaohm | That is why the change to IPV6 change is good. | Oct 28 01:59 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: not really | Oct 28 01:59 |
oiaohm | Forced killing of all the 2038 defective routers. | Oct 28 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | besides | Oct 28 01:59 |
Diablo-D3 | routers only last like 3 years | Oct 28 01:59 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: at least I can remember ipv4 addresses... | Oct 28 01:59 |
Ender2070 | you really think we won't even be running quantum pc's by then? | Oct 28 02:00 |
oiaohm | Some of the big old beasties of routers out there are 15 year old sitting in fiber links. Diablo-D3 | Oct 28 02:00 |
Ender2070 | the internet will be too slow | Oct 28 02:00 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: the caps will rot on those soon | Oct 28 02:00 |
oiaohm | Unforntally not. | Oct 28 02:01 |
oiaohm | Those are are still going are the first of the solid block caps. | Oct 28 02:01 |
Diablo-D3 | this 6 pack of beer says otherwise. | Oct 28 02:01 |
oiaohm | Ie were top of the line insanely expenisve bits in there day. | Oct 28 02:01 |
oiaohm | The rest from that time frame are basically dead. | Oct 28 02:02 |
Ender2070 | i highly doubt theres a router that will live 30+ years | Oct 28 02:02 |
oiaohm | Those caps will be fine for another 10 to 20 years. | Oct 28 02:02 |
oiaohm | More likely the wires connecting the chip will warp and it will die. | Oct 28 02:03 |
Ender2070 | i doubt theres routers that old in operation | Oct 28 02:03 |
oiaohm | I know a few. | Oct 28 02:03 |
Ender2070 | you know how slow they would be | Oct 28 02:03 |
Diablo-D3 | Ender2070: there actually are | Oct 28 02:03 |
Diablo-D3 | they babysit fiber links that havent been upgraded yet | Oct 28 02:03 |
*Tekk_ still hasn't gotten around to adding sprite sheet support to his game making library... | Oct 28 02:03 | |
Diablo-D3 | like, OC3s to businesses and shit | Oct 28 02:03 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @trashbird1240 any real evidence of #BSOD ? | Oct 28 02:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Sony is an established solid brand in cellphones. With a playstation in a cellphone, it's a real contender in the mobile arena | Oct 28 02:03 | |
Ender2070 | what kind of bandwidth are you talking about | Oct 28 02:04 |
oiaohm | They are not that slow either over all. Last one I was looking at was doing a nice 20gb/per second. | Oct 28 02:04 |
oiaohm | Upgraded you would push at least double that down the line. | Oct 28 02:05 |
oiaohm | But that requires breaking the link. | Oct 28 02:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I just don't know whose lunch Sony will eat, if crApple's or M$. M$ for sure. | Oct 28 02:05 | |
Ender2070 | nothings broken the link in 30+ years? | Oct 28 02:05 |
Ender2070 | or will I mean | Oct 28 02:06 |
oiaohm | Most likely nothing. | Oct 28 02:06 |
Ender2070 | heavy duty then | Oct 28 02:06 |
Ender2070 | yeah that would've been extremely expensive back then | Oct 28 02:06 |
oiaohm | Bugger at both ends is sitting on UPS's battery sets that can hold it operation for 48 hours without power. | Oct 28 02:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Nintendo's | Oct 28 02:07 | |
oiaohm | And the batteries can be replaced while in operation. | Oct 28 02:07 |
oiaohm | And auto kick up generators as well. | Oct 28 02:07 |
oiaohm | This is true belt and suppenders stuff. | Oct 28 02:07 |
oiaohm | Yes the generates can recharge the batteries enough before the run out of fuel to give time to driver for 8 hours and come back with more fuel and fill them up and keep on going. | Oct 28 02:08 |
Ender2070 | interesting | Oct 28 02:08 |
oiaohm | Yet the fuel station is less than 30 mins away. | Oct 28 02:08 |
Ender2070 | thats uptime | Oct 28 02:08 |
Ender2070 | lol | Oct 28 02:08 |
oiaohm | Ie 8 hours to fuel station and 8 hours back and 4 hours mucking around at each end. | Oct 28 02:09 |
oiaohm | Basically if it ever loses power someone has completely screwed up. | Oct 28 02:10 |
oiaohm | The best hope of early replacement is if someone rips up the firber link by mistake. | Oct 28 02:10 |
Tekk_ | XD firber | Oct 28 02:10 |
Ender2070 | http://fedoraproject.org/en/features/ | Oct 28 02:10 |
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Ender2070 | spyware and virus free! | Oct 28 02:11 |
Ender2070 | :D | Oct 28 02:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz In the cell phone market ? [(O.o)] | Oct 28 02:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Using #OOXML instead of #ODF is like turning off the Beatles so you can hear K-Fed sing "Imagine". It is just wrong. | Oct 28 02:12 | |
oiaohm | Virus free claim is taking it a little too far. | Oct 28 02:12 |
oiaohm | Particularly when you work with the wine project and have see 200+ windows viruses running in wine on fedora | Oct 28 02:13 |
oiaohm | Virus free as long as you don't install Wine. | Oct 28 02:13 |
Tekk_ | it's still pretty safe without wine | Oct 28 02:14 |
Tekk_ | with* | Oct 28 02:14 |
oiaohm | That fedora claim is what gets people into trouble. | Oct 28 02:14 |
Tekk_ | since you aren't connected to the internet most of the time it doesn't have too much chance for a virus | Oct 28 02:14 |
oiaohm | Ie Linux cannot get infected is not true. | Oct 28 02:14 |
Tekk_ | correct | Oct 28 02:14 |
oiaohm | Linux is virus resistant. | Oct 28 02:14 |
oiaohm | Highly Virus resistant. | Oct 28 02:15 |
oiaohm | fanotify can make it even more so. | Oct 28 02:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for October 28, 2010 http://lwn.net/Articles/411019/rss | Oct 28 02:15 | |
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oiaohm | Yet will still have to wait a few more Linux kernels to get fanotify. | Oct 28 02:15 |
bruce89 | surely selinux would say something about that | Oct 28 02:16 |
oiaohm | Ie fanotify wrapped around wine providing realtime scanning of what the user is trying to install. | Oct 28 02:16 |
oiaohm | Lot of wine applications need network access bruce89 | Oct 28 02:16 |
oiaohm | So selinux has to let wine past. | Oct 28 02:16 |
oiaohm | Also part is a wine design error. | Oct 28 02:16 |
Ender2070 | just dont use wine then | Oct 28 02:16 |
oiaohm | wineserver sends some network traffic for all installed applications in wine. | Oct 28 02:17 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: what do you mean a design error? | Oct 28 02:17 |
Tekk_ | ah | Oct 28 02:17 |
oiaohm | So hiding the source of the packets. | Oct 28 02:17 |
bruce89 | I wasn't really meaning wine actually, point taken | Oct 28 02:17 |
oiaohm | Particular applications increase risk of infected Linux. Wine is the big one. | Oct 28 02:18 |
oiaohm | Reason why I ask people all the time have they tried native platform applications for the job. Since distribution gets to wrap them in secuirty. | Oct 28 02:19 |
oiaohm | Has gnome added .desktop file protection yet. | Oct 28 02:21 |
oiaohm | Ie that a unknown .desktop file system asks is this safe to run. | Oct 28 02:21 |
oiaohm | I know KDE has. | Oct 28 02:21 |
Ender2070 | :) | Oct 28 02:21 |
oiaohm | Linux is not whole less. But it has less wholes than most other OS's. | Oct 28 02:22 |
oiaohm | We cannot sit back and take secuirty for granted yet. | Oct 28 02:22 |
Ender2070 | true but package management usually eliminates a lot of that junk | Oct 28 02:25 |
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bruce89 | I believe I saw desktop file protection in GNOME recently | Oct 28 02:26 |
Ender2070 | same with making the home directory not able to execute | Oct 28 02:26 |
bruce89 | in fact, indeed it is there | Oct 28 02:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith no, DS | Oct 28 02:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I read your post, crApple is surpassing Nintendo and Sony in the handheld game market. a BIG WTF ?!? | Oct 28 02:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i haven't heard a single flame about the new #fedora website... that was odd. | Oct 28 02:30 | |
oiaohm | Ender2070: wine currently respects the execute flag. | Oct 28 02:30 |
oiaohm | Make home directory no execute kill wine dead. | Oct 28 02:30 |
Tekk_ | no executing in home?! | Oct 28 02:32 |
Tekk_ | that's insane | Oct 28 02:32 |
bruce89 | http://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/commit/?id=7632a3e13874a2c5e8988428ca913620a25df983 | Oct 28 02:32 |
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Ender2070 | thats not insane | Oct 28 02:32 |
Ender2070 | just get your apps from your package mananger | Oct 28 02:32 |
Tekk_ | Ender2070: wait, we are talking about no executables allowed in home, correct? | Oct 28 02:33 |
Ender2070 | yes | Oct 28 02:33 |
Tekk_ | I do not like that... | Oct 28 02:33 |
Ender2070 | if you're trying to run a tight ship you do | Oct 28 02:33 |
Tekk_ | if you like programming, you don't :P | Oct 28 02:33 |
oiaohm | Secure system is a must. Tekk_ | Oct 28 02:33 |
Ender2070 | well perhaps you manually allow execute for specific people | Oct 28 02:34 |
oiaohm | Ie programming machines not secure systems. | Oct 28 02:34 |
oiaohm | Because programmers can screw up and crash it. | Oct 28 02:34 |
Tekk_ | so you're saying that I would need to, whenever I build something, I need to move it to /usr/local/bin... | Oct 28 02:34 |
Tekk_ | I think I'll stick with trinity, thanks o.o | Oct 28 02:34 |
oiaohm | Normally you set up development zones. | Oct 28 02:34 |
oiaohm | the tradition what has become a mess was /usr/local | Oct 28 02:34 |
Ender2070 | give yourself execute | Oct 28 02:34 |
Ender2070 | you're just a folder | Oct 28 02:35 |
Tekk_ | wait | Oct 28 02:35 |
oiaohm | Also don't forget the power of scripting. | Oct 28 02:35 |
oiaohm | I have brought a HPUX to the ground with a shell script. | Oct 28 02:35 |
Tekk_ | doesn't the execute flag on folders mean no searching? | Oct 28 02:35 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: su -c 'halt'? :P | Oct 28 02:36 |
oiaohm | No su just normal user allowed on a HPUX | Oct 28 02:36 |
Tekk_ | doesn't no execute flag on folders* | Oct 28 02:36 |
oiaohm | no execute parition mount does not effect folders. | Oct 28 02:36 |
oiaohm | Its a file filter. | Oct 28 02:36 |
oiaohm | Tekk_: Fork bombed from a shell script calling it self due to typo on my part. | Oct 28 02:37 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: awesome | Oct 28 02:37 |
oiaohm | Due to the right ammount lag. | Oct 28 02:37 |
oiaohm | I do mean the right about. | Oct 28 02:37 |
oiaohm | HPUX did not kill the script instead systemattically killed everything else on the system to free up process time. | Oct 28 02:38 |
oiaohm | Including the means to log in directly at the server. | Oct 28 02:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] >@webmink I wondered what govt official in what dark alley dreamed up this groping to protect the public? // manufactured fear does it all | Oct 28 02:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] You know what I hate more than installing Windows? Installing Windows with OEM Product Keys | Oct 28 02:38 | |
oiaohm | Yes still running but 100 percent paper weight. | Oct 28 02:38 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: I wouldn't say to it's knees, you just need a restart | Oct 28 02:39 |
oiaohm | restart button on the server need cpu time. | Oct 28 02:40 |
Tekk_ | unplug | Oct 28 02:40 |
oiaohm | That there was none. | Oct 28 02:40 |
oiaohm | Yep unplug was the only option. | Oct 28 02:40 |
oiaohm | Also it had not written to disk the complete time my script had taken over. | Oct 28 02:40 |
oiaohm | So filesystem was damaged so it did not restart. | Oct 28 02:41 |
oiaohm | Yes I had done it well. | Oct 28 02:41 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: get banned? | Oct 28 02:41 |
oiaohm | Account got suspened then a very big please explain. | Oct 28 02:41 |
oiaohm | After they saw it was a simple typo and not intentional attack on system. I was allowed back in. | Oct 28 02:42 |
oiaohm | Its not the thing todo in the first week of university. Tekk_ | Oct 28 02:42 |
oiaohm | Yes the main students server I had taken to its knees. | Oct 28 02:43 |
oiaohm | Knowing what I have done. Does this change you mind on having coders and general users sharing the same server. Tekk_ | Oct 28 02:45 |
oiaohm | Yes the first time I had come into contact with a Unix server I stuffed it. | Oct 28 02:48 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: nope, not at all :P | Oct 28 02:48 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: yeah, the first time you used a UNIX server | Oct 28 02:48 |
Tekk_ | and I'm sure that we have things to protect against that nowadays | Oct 28 02:48 |
oiaohm | There are other weak points. | Oct 28 02:49 |
oiaohm | Running non tested binaries and scripts does increase risk of those being hit. | Oct 28 02:49 |
oiaohm | Tekk_: You are thinking the same way the UNI people were. | Oct 28 02:50 |
oiaohm | HPUX was one of the first to intrudce anti-fork bomb code. | Oct 28 02:50 |
oiaohm | I was just unlucky enough to hit the one and only bug in it. | Oct 28 02:51 |
Tekk_ | great job with that geys | Oct 28 02:51 |
oiaohm | Where instead of killing the forkbomb it killed everything else. | Oct 28 02:51 |
oiaohm | Mistake was the idea that the fork bomb would be the fastest spawning process. | Oct 28 02:52 |
oiaohm | Mine was slow spawning and just keep on doing it. | Oct 28 02:52 |
oiaohm | So when it went looking for the fork bomb in its eyes everything else was most likely it. | Oct 28 02:53 |
oiaohm | Basically by mistake I turned the OS's own secuirty system against it. | Oct 28 02:54 |
oiaohm | When you have a highly protected OS. It is possible to make it overreach putting untested code in. Tekk_ | Oct 28 02:55 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: okay, but still we have a problem there | Oct 28 02:56 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: most computers these days are single user | Oct 28 02:56 |
oiaohm | And most don't need to code. | Oct 28 02:56 |
Tekk_ | but I imagine quite a few will want to, say, set up tremulous | Oct 28 02:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Diolch i Dduw am Google chyfieithu | Oct 28 02:57 | |
oiaohm | Package management. | Oct 28 02:57 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: debian | Oct 28 02:57 |
oiaohm | tremulous rpm installs on debian. | Oct 28 02:57 |
Tekk_ | or a libre derivative of debian/ubuntu | Oct 28 02:57 |
oiaohm | And ubuntu | Oct 28 02:57 |
oiaohm | Done it. | Oct 28 02:57 |
oiaohm | Really from a secuirty point of view package management need to improve | Oct 28 02:58 |
Tekk_ | oiaohm: so the answer is use an rpm instead of using the official installer, because it'll definitely occur to the new ubuntu user that they can use alien :P | Oct 28 02:58 |
oiaohm | Really I part of a forum in the Linux standard base trying to make a standard to handle these installs come into existance. | Oct 28 02:59 |
Tekk_ | also, how does keeping you from having executables in home help anyway? the users you need to watch out for here are going to just sudo cp thing /usr/bin | Oct 28 02:59 |
Tekk_ | / | Oct 28 02:59 |
oiaohm | That it does not exist is one of the out standing secuirty issues. | Oct 28 02:59 |
oiaohm | The main advantage of package installing is that the binary become read only in general usage. | Oct 28 03:00 |
oiaohm | So infections could not tamper with them and package management also prevents overwriting. | Oct 28 03:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Eilean Buildhe for the ligne an tuath | Oct 28 03:00 | |
oiaohm | Ie Linux is not to the point we can say secuirty is done complete finished. | Oct 28 03:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Actually, I believe that's misspelt, but it makes no sense anyway. Apparently Gaelic doesn't have words for "for the line" | Oct 28 03:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] In fact, I could dent Gaelic, but it would need to be lines from the various commentaries from BBC Alba | Oct 28 03:03 | |
oiaohm | Also system wide auditing package management helps with Tekk_ | Oct 28 03:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] hahnahushamagahn Glasgow 31 huansauhfdsfds Ospreys 23 | Oct 28 03:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] hey, if you think my dents about fedora are spam, why not talk to me about it rather than filing abuse complaints to 2tu.us? | Oct 28 03:08 | |
*Tekk_ is trying to set up mingw... | Oct 28 03:14 | |
Tekk_ | well, I have it set up but I need my SDL stuff with it :P | Oct 28 03:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle invests in Mellanox (EE Times): http://bit.ly/cXfs1R | Oct 28 03:15 | |
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oiaohm | The recent links just reminded me when mythbusters started messing around with biosecuirty devices. | Oct 28 03:26 |
oiaohm | Laptop finger printer scanner turned out harder than a door finger printer scanner. | Oct 28 03:26 |
oiaohm | The door one opened with a printer out of the finger print. | Oct 28 03:26 |
oiaohm | When the laptop one required a mold of the finger. | Oct 28 03:27 |
oiaohm | What was kinda wrong. | Oct 28 03:27 |
oiaohm | And the door lock cost more than the laptop. | Oct 28 03:27 |
oiaohm | Also like one of the recent one here with door being punched open with mobile phones. | Oct 28 03:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The State, Direction Of The PSCNV Nouveau Fork: Christopher Bergström of PathScale has passed along a note detaili... http://bit.ly/cqDnce | Oct 28 03:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I'll be at today's http://www.infocommindustryforum.com/ #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 03:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I would like to attend foss.in this year - but the site is silent on the agenda etc. I wonder why there are delays? #fb | Oct 28 03:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @nicubunu new !fedora website is live: http://fedoraproject.org/ | Oct 28 04:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @linuxaria Introduction to Cryptography and digital sign with GnuPG !linux http://www.linuxaria.com/howto/cryptography-digital-sign-g ... | Oct 28 04:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mjjzf: You want to see something funny about Ray Ozzie's blog? http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=ozzie.net&probe=1 | Oct 28 04:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @magicbus WE WANT YOU!! to help out with Fedora Elections. http://ping.fm/QazNh | Oct 28 04:28 | |
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oiaohm | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2010/10/12/october-2010-web-server-survey.html Really if I was a MS share holder I would not be happy by the way these numbers are lookin | Oct 28 04:31 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @harishpillay: RT @magicbus WE WANT YOU!! to help out with Fedora Elections. http://ping.fm/QazNh | Oct 28 06:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @all1nfo: ANDROID #news: Samsung Captivate AT&T, Completed Review by CNET http://bit.ly/bmsjVB !android #androidandme | Oct 28 06:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] European Parliament officially calls for open document exchange format http://is.gd/gnHtr #ooo #libreoffice #eu #romania #odf | Oct 28 06:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ODF implementors gather in Brussels for 4th ODF plugfest, October 14th - 15th | Oct 28 06:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Interop demo illustrates breadth and power of ODF to handle enterprise, academic and govt. needs http://is.gd/gnIpZ #odf #ooo #libreoffice | Oct 28 06:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] so it took a little over 12 hours but the flames have started! #fedora | Oct 28 06:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz http://fedoraproject.org/en/using/life/fabianscherschel.html | Oct 28 06:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin I like it. I totally don't get what people are on about.... | Oct 28 06:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! More Windows Server work for me today..... :/ | Oct 28 06:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin I "harassed" him too. If you call defuting his nonsense claims harassment. The guy is a professional troll... | Oct 28 06:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh "harass" is definitely a powerful and in some cases legal term that shouldn't be thrown around so lightly if that is the case! | Oct 28 07:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin True. One just needs to read his timeline for a while and all becomes clear... ;) | Oct 28 07:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh cool! Added to Daily Links | Oct 28 07:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Well, he's free to file a case over here. I suspect the court will laugh very hard... | Oct 28 07:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz :) | Oct 28 07:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Where is the twitterfall at #infocomm? #fb | Oct 28 07:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RD @fontana RD @suehle Spock is a legal authority in Texas. http://www.sfwa.org/2010/10/star-trek-cited-by-texas-supreme-court/ | Oct 28 07:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fontana I find your remark specieophobic :-) | Oct 28 07:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "He also had a photo which I had only published on Facebook. =/" @lefty - LOL, this cracks me up. Does he understand how stupid that sounds? | Oct 28 07:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin I don't get it. Is he complaining that someone used publicly available information? Shocking! Oo | Oct 28 07:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good that yenyen did not do the Oracle spin on cloud #infocomm | Oct 28 07:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I wonder what spin the idc speaker will have? #infocomm | Oct 28 07:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Idc == astrology == gartner etc! #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 07:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Idc says cios in sg getting 8-10% increase in budget in 2010. Really? I doubt it. #infocomm | Oct 28 07:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ODF Alliance Newsletter: October 2010 http://ur1.ca/277nm major breakthroughs and milestones for the international document standard | Oct 28 07:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] New idc bs-word socialytic. #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 07:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mairin: man, if you could put that amount of focus and dedication to something that would benefit the world.... it would be impressive. | Oct 28 07:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Another idc bs-word "mobilution" #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 07:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @sains DealBook: Orcl Escalates Tiff With HP: Larry Ellison of Orcl has escalated the rhetoric against rival HP... http://nyti.ms/9O0usO | Oct 28 07:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Nearly the weekend for me, only work til 15:00 tomorrow, and Monday is a bank holiday. Yay! :) | Oct 28 07:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Accenture speaker mentions numb3rs as example of analytics #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 08:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gemalto Works With #Apple Immediately After Suing #Android / !Linux http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/apple-and-gemalto-connection/ | Oct 28 08:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Samsung Galaxy S Vodafone - Spain Phone €29 and€114.90/m !!!!! - UK Phone £0 and £35/m http://ur1.ca/277ux http://ur1.ca/277uy | Oct 28 08:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @sankarshan Why is it that Hanlon's Razor is handy to have when dealing with government/semi-government bodies ? | Oct 28 08:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] El Dictionary Urbano Define Mobbyist (Mobbyists – Español) http://ur1.ca/277vj #Mobbyists #microsoft | Oct 28 08:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Thus far the Accenture speaker makes the most sense. No bs or crystal-ball gazing. #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 08:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Why !linux and !chrome are better than Windows and Firefox: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/26/firefox_0day_report/ | Oct 28 08:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @dfscot If there isn't enough money for all Scottish Universities, the solution is not a graduate tax it's fewer Universities< s/SCO/ITA/g | Oct 28 08:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity that there isn't anything new #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 08:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Sync Chrome Tabs Across Multiple Computers With TabCloud http://bit.ly/bB1Qnx | Oct 28 08:41 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Successor (Ozzie) Appears to Have Dumped Windows for GNU/Linux on His Site http://ur1.ca/27884 #wordpress !gnu !linux | Oct 28 08:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pity that amazon cto is repeating yesterday's spiel #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 08:45 | |
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amarsh04 | hmmm, just had a swap storm running iceweasel, icedove, konversation and OO.o at once on 384 MiB of RAM (kernel 2.6.36-git10) | Oct 28 08:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @schestowitz Bill Gates Successor (Ozzie) Appears to Have Dumped Windows for GNU/Linux on His Site http://ur1.ca/27884 #wordpress !linux | Oct 28 08:46 | |
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Diablo-D3 | amarsh04: to be honest | Oct 28 08:54 |
Diablo-D3 | thats your own goddamned fault | Oct 28 08:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] According to MeFeedia, 54 per cent of web video is now available for playback in !html5 http://ur1.ca/278ac | Oct 28 08:54 | |
Diablo-D3 | OOo? seriously? do you KNOW how much memory that thing uses? | Oct 28 08:54 |
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amarsh04 | funnily enough, I had a swap storm without even running up OO.o | Oct 28 08:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Apple Mac factory workers being poisoned by n-hexane in China, and it's not the first time: http://ur1.ca/278bu | Oct 28 08:55 | |
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amarsh04 | the swap algorithm seems to free up too much ram when a new application is started | Oct 28 08:55 |
amarsh04 | back with an older kernel | Oct 28 08:56 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Whoa! What are those page previews in Google search results pages (SERPs)? Are they new? Quite nice. | Oct 28 09:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Without deltacloud, any public cloud is a lock-in, mr amazon cto! #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 09:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Do you have question on !Unity in !Ubuntu #Natty? Ask it on askubuntu.com! http://goo.gl/2nu0 | Oct 28 09:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @seawolf "To view this content, please install Microsoft Silverlight.Click now to install in 30 secs!" | sed 's/install/screw yourself/' | Oct 28 09:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Tech Drive-in: Get a Feel of #Firefox 4 in Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat http://goo.gl/unnw | Oct 28 09:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @harishpillay: Without deltacloud, any public cloud is a lock-in, mr amazon cto! #infocomm #fb | #FTW | Oct 28 09:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man.... There's a switch in this building that's patched wrong but I can't find it.... Oo | Oct 28 09:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just had a full page pop-up banner ad on http://www.linuxtoday.com/ for Blackberry. Not impressed, should have been Android. | Oct 28 10:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporate Journalism Says “Microsoft’s Consumer Brand is ‘Dying’”, Now We Need to Worry About Apple http://ur1.ca/2790c #Apple #Microsoft | Oct 28 10:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @reiter: All software companies are in danger because of patents, just remember Patent Adventure V3.4 from 1994: http://ur1.ca/278vr | Oct 28 10:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] http://www.racetoinfinity.bt.com/ voting to say I want access to unshit Internets. ‘27 votes … of 2,454’ for my local exchange | Oct 28 10:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] time to campaign like we had to for broadband. Imagine proving your collective worth to get cleaner water… should be everyone or noone #sigh | Oct 28 10:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Analyst is confident that RHT is here to win: http://is.gd/go1CF #FTW #RedHatRocks | Oct 28 10:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Must read!♻ @reiter: All software companies are in danger because of patents http://ur1.ca/278vr #fb | Oct 28 10:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @jwildeboer Analyst is confident that RHT is here to win: http://is.gd/go1CF #FTW #RedHatRocks | Oct 28 10:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @rms will be in #Switzerland for November before he returns to #Boston. http://www.fsf.org/events/rms-speeches.html !gorms | Oct 28 10:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @mairin I dunno if you have noticed, but the tummy.com banner actually links to fedoraproject.org | Oct 28 10:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice! ♻ @jwildeboer Analyst is confident that RHT is here to win: http://is.gd/go1CF #FTW #RedHatRocks | Oct 28 10:26 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oooooh, it's SCO all over again: http://is.gd/go2Kh ORCL claims GOOG copied code 1:1 to Android. #SCOracle? | Oct 28 10:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Obama was on #TheDailyShow last night. | Oct 28 10:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff! ♻ @sankarshan http://tinyurl.com/283npgo Using Four Seasons of Code to help run Fedora Students Contributing program #fedora | Oct 28 10:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @jwildeboer Oooooh, it's SCO all over again: http://is.gd/go2Kh ORCL claims GOOG copied code 1:1 to Android. #SCOracle? | Oct 28 10:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @jwildeboer: Oooooh, it's SCO all over again: http://is.gd/go2Kh ORCL claims GOOG copied code 1:1 to Android. #SCOracle? | Oct 28 10:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "In at least several instances, Android [...] program code also was directly copied from copyrighted Oracle America code" http://is.gd/go3fm | Oct 28 10:36 | |
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*amarsh04 is running a git bisect on the linux kernel to find the source of the swappiness in 2.6.36-git10 | Oct 28 10:38 | |
MinceR | geekings | Oct 28 10:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Growvc is intriguing. #infocomm #fb | Oct 28 10:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Legal publishing company whose books I studied a lot @ university, now client of mine. I'd call it an #achievement :-) | Oct 28 10:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana congrats! | Oct 28 10:46 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MPEGLA Codecs and #Microsoft Racketeering Challenge the Redistributability of !Linux http://ur1.ca/279ku #swpats | Oct 28 10:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @olpc Nicholas Negroponte on Colbert Report: http://goo.gl/qyag #OneLaptopPerChild #OLPC {MIT Media Labs is 25 years young.} /via @nanofoo | Oct 28 10:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak thanks :-) | Oct 28 10:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @johnsu01 I understand but I've noticed that almost all @ I've seen weren't answered. I'd help,but they mostly needed an 'official position' | Oct 28 10:51 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana speaking of which, how difficult is it to be a software freedom-friendly IT lawyer? | Oct 28 10:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak easy, I know a few of them ;-). But they are rare and overworked. | Oct 28 10:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @planetfedora Sankarshan: Thoughts about the Fedora Community Working Group: A bit back I had posted a question t-... http://bit.ly/a44dE9 | Oct 28 11:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @yoonkit: And the OOXML beast is finally dead in Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project was agreed today. | Oct 28 11:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @carlopiana what kind of work do usually do? | Oct 28 11:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♺ @yoonkit: And the OOXML beast is finally dead in Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project was agreed today. | Oct 28 11:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #godbless and save #filesharing. | Oct 28 11:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] ftr, filesharing can be, in so many cases, legal,:) and it's mostly ethical anyway. | Oct 28 11:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @osamak mainly sw licensing, tech transfer, advocacy/lobbying, antitrust, domain names & TMs, data protection, & al. Many things, actually | Oct 28 11:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] RT @jwildeboer ♺ @yoonkit: And the OOXML beast is finally dead in Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project ... | Oct 28 11:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] Richard Stallman (@RMS) à Genève pour plusieurs jours http://is.gd/go6tT conférence « éthique numérique » !april !fsfe | Oct 28 11:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Yesterday's steering committee phone conference now available as MP3 recording: http://ur1.ca/279uk | Oct 28 11:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell 's Markus Rex Calls Buyout of #SUSE “The Big Elephant in the Room” http://ur1.ca/279w5 #opensuse #vmware !gnu !linux #server | Oct 28 11:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @docufoundation Yesterday's steering committee phone conference now available as MP3 recording: http://ur1.ca/279uk | Oct 28 11:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @jwildeboer @opensourcegeek @webmink well spotted! Hope we can rest this case? | Oct 28 11:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @yoonkit: And the OOXML beast is finally dead in Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project was agreed today. | Oct 28 11:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Your tax dollars (or pounds) at work: pr0n vans http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/19/x-ray-vans-security-measure-invasion-privacy/ | Oct 28 11:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The chairman of British Airways has said some "completely redundant" airport security checks" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11632944 | Oct 28 11:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history." --Richard Stallman | Oct 28 11:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Security is closely related to confidence, which is why we have "Security Theatre" at the airport, to at least convince us we're 'protected' | Oct 28 11:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Most Touch Screen ebook Readers Run on !Linux http://ur1.ca/27a5i for purely practical reasons | Oct 28 11:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] أوباما شيّب. | Oct 28 11:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Have Questions About Unity? Ask Them At AskUbuntu! http://bit.ly/aKlKjW | Oct 28 11:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Thinking of going to MacLaw group with iBook sporting activities big "ubuntu inside" sign #Bastardinside | Oct 28 11:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Market economy is an odd religion:it makes wealthy people wealthier yet impoverishing everyone else while its clergy enjoys big incentives. | Oct 28 11:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I mean "sporting A big Ubuntu. sign". #WTF | Oct 28 11:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Domingo na TSF, "Direitos de Autor" com os senhores da SPA entre outros. Pelo que ouvi no anúncio não existe ninguém para o contraditório. | Oct 28 12:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @jwildeboer I didn't read that, where are you seeing it? I saw an undefined copyright claim. | Oct 28 12:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @jwildeboer I'm pleased the evidence has now gone, but I believe the sickness remains... | Oct 28 12:01 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple accused of copyright infringement in China http://ur1.ca/27akk iDon't know what to say... | Oct 28 12:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] sent a message to the local business forum about fibre, will contact the town council later… | Oct 28 12:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] now: dentist appointment. | Oct 28 12:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Virtualbox decided to break some libraries, need to reinstall it. | Oct 28 12:16 | |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/26/firefox_0day_report/ | Oct 28 12:18 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Barnes & Noble unveils color e-reader http://ur1.ca/27an5 yes, it runs !Linux of course, like everything | Oct 28 12:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Revolution Will Be Distributed http://ur1.ca/27aol "complaining that President Obama... not killing the folks behind Wikileaks." | Oct 28 12:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @reiter All software companies are in danger because of patents, just remember Patent Adventure V3.4 from 1994: http://ur1.ca/278vr | Oct 28 12:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony has 'shot down' a !Ubuntu ad, claiming to own part of the 'content' in YouTube (in some countries). #sony #dmca #copywrong | Oct 28 12:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz Sony has a long track record of being an abusive bully. since the infamous Sony Rootkit I choose to boycott them. | Oct 28 12:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Multnomah County dumps Microsoft in favor of Google http://ur1.ca/27av4 They only swap proprietary masters | Oct 28 12:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rysiek it's a low-profile bully, like Samsung | Oct 28 12:38 | |
schestowitz | Sutor is pimping hypePad again http://www.sutor.com/c/2010/10/math-and-the-ipad-mathination/ | Oct 28 12:38 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Virtualbox: failed dlopen _ZNK15QAbstractSlider8pageStepEv. Suspect it's a qt prob. W/around failed, reinstall failed, e/thing #fail | Oct 28 12:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What does The Telegraph try to tell us about the queen [IMG] http://ur1.ca/27awu | Oct 28 12:41 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz aye. but I bet they would *love* to be a high-profile, first-page one, like crapple. | Oct 28 12:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @harishpillay Idc == astrology == gartner etc! #infocomm #fb >> difference is, with #Idc and #gartner you *PAY* to change predictions | Oct 28 12:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just renewed my !fsf membership for the second year from software freedom revenues. Proud to be part of this wonderful organization. #8035 | Oct 28 12:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Techrights has pages that document the lies and abuses of #IDC and #Gartner http://ur1.ca/27b0m http://ur1.ca/1cntq //cc @harishpillay | Oct 28 12:46 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay Red Hat paid Forrester recently. Can't recall them paying IDC or Gangster Group; Novell pays the former, IBM the latter. | Oct 28 12:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh Why !linux and !chrome are better than Windows and Firefox: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/26/firefox_0day_report/ | Oct 28 12:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @webmink : congratuations for OpenIDM to ForgeRock! | Oct 28 12:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @harishpillay Pity that amazon cto is repeating yesterday's spiel #infocomm #fb > Amazon pays Microsoft for RHEL http://ur1.ca/27b52 | Oct 28 12:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh According to MeFeedia, 54 per cent of web video is now available for playback in !html5 http://ur1.ca/278ac !fsf #playogg | Oct 28 12:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Holy Moly! Vatican opposes "IP" fanatism! http://is.gd/gohiP #swpat #pope | Oct 28 12:56 | |
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schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Vogels | Oct 28 12:57 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh Just had a full page pop-up banner ad on http://www.linuxtoday.com/ for Blackberry. Not impressed, should have been Android. | Oct 28 13:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @jonobacon Just noticed that you still have a "Ubuntu 10.04 is here" badge on your blog. You might want to update it :) | Oct 28 13:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Analyst huddles with Red Hat execs, ups share price http://ur1.ca/27b8y !gnu !linux #investment | Oct 28 13:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Egbert said in 2006-2010 that Red Hat would be bought by Oracle, IBM, others. Egbert, are you there? Egbert? Those analysts are too busy... | Oct 28 13:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Oooooh, it's SCO all over again: http://is.gd/go2Kh ORCL claims GOOG copied code 1:1 to Android. #SCOracle? | Oct 28 13:06 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer "In at least several instances, Android[...]also was directly copied from copyrighted Oracle America code" http://is.gd/go3fm | Oct 28 13:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] @carlopiana: it definitely is a qt-related problem, probably tries to use a function that no longer exists (you can see which with c++filt) | Oct 28 13:08 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @yoonkit: And the OOXML beast is finally dead in Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project was agreed today. | Oct 28 13:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/cDJa8J | Oct 28 13:11 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @charlesschulz context? #lazy_mode | Oct 28 13:11 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @carlopiana : ForgeRock, a company Simon is closely associated with, just unveiled its new technology stack (the former IDM stack from Sun). | Oct 28 13:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @flameeyes thanks, but you suppose far too much of my computer skills ;-) and Google is of no help :-( | Oct 28 13:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We are trying to figure out which country Sony has blocked the !Ubuntu ads using #copywrong http://ur1.ca/27bd6 | Oct 28 13:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @charlesschulz oh, thanks. I obviously know Simon's association with ForgeRock ;-) But wasn't aware of this piece of news. | Oct 28 13:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] I'm so behind on my homework. Any superheroes out there willing to mentor me in !c? | Oct 28 13:21 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git11 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernel | Oct 28 13:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] @carlopiana: if you're not using vbox from your distro's package manager, likely a Qt upgrade (like 4.7) broke it | Oct 28 13:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @flameeyes ACK, fact is, I have both parts via vanilla Ubuntu w/ regular updates via Ubuntu repos. And it's even a LTS, #WTF | Oct 28 13:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Finnix 100 - Another distro I've never hard of http://ping.fm/3Ludv | Oct 28 13:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Finnix 100 - Another distro I've never heard of http://ping.fm/3Ludv | Oct 28 13:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD's R300 Gallium3D Driver Is Looking Good For 2011: After years of development work by Tungsten Graphics (now VM... http://bit.ly/9TdCtV | Oct 28 13:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just been listening to Johnny Thunders. He has a lot in common with Iggy in as much as he was more influential after the event. | Oct 28 13:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Moscow teacher 'fired' for supporting !opensource - THINQ.co.uk http://ping.fm/Ljex2 | Oct 28 13:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A Moment of Zen: Lessons in Freedom http://ping.fm/O4133 | Oct 28 13:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 2 Tools for Linux Screen-Session Recording | LinuxInsider http://ping.fm/FAe2G | Oct 28 13:43 | |
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gnubie | just an fyi: http://weblog.savanne.be/275-mono-developer-room-at-fosdem-2011-it-is-on | Oct 28 13:45 |
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gnubie | seems fosdem will never learn | Oct 28 13:45 |
gnubie | also omg!ubuntu has ben continuing to push banshee | Oct 28 13:49 |
gnubie | several posts the past week or so | Oct 28 13:49 |
oiaohm | Really asking the question where is the standard edition of mono. | Oct 28 13:50 |
oiaohm | Could be interesting. | Oct 28 13:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] if they keep postponing the release, #theSteve for sure will have a new product to announce during next year's summer: a white version! | Oct 28 13:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @osamak thanks for the report! | Oct 28 13:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How open source is changing the face of business | Enterprise | Real World Computing | PC Pro http://post.ly/17q9f | Oct 28 14:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito yes, but people report this problem outside Germany too. http://ur1.ca/27bve http://ur1.ca/27bvf | Oct 28 14:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Intel started a news site called Intel Free Press: http://goo.gl/WxPM | Oct 28 14:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @carlopiana Thinking of going to MacLaw group with iBook sporting activities big "ubuntu inside" sign #Bastardinside | Oct 28 14:15 | |
gnubie | have you guys seen this? http://linuxpatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/language-envy.html | Oct 28 14:17 |
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schestowitz | gnubie: who is "PatentSleuth"? | Oct 28 14:18 |
schestowitz | See the dates | Oct 28 14:18 |
schestowitz | Around the same of the inception of Mobbyist FauxPatents | Oct 28 14:18 |
schestowitz | "A patent law enthusiast and Linux user." | Oct 28 14:19 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 28 14:20 |
schestowitz | member since July 2009 | Oct 28 14:20 |
dyfet | that is an oxymoron | Oct 28 14:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] New Firefox and Thunderbird security releases http://lwn.net/Articles/412217/rss | Oct 28 14:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @magicfab: ♺ @schestowitz: #MPEGLA Codecs and #Microsoft Racketeering Challenge the Redistributability of #linux http://ur1.ca/279ku | Oct 28 14:20 | |
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schestowitz | MinceR: no patent folks love Linux | Oct 28 14:20 |
schestowitz | Not even PJ (originally) | Oct 28 14:20 |
schestowitz | Piana makes money from it | Oct 28 14:20 |
schestowitz | It's like baber who likes baldness | Oct 28 14:21 |
MinceR | i know | Oct 28 14:21 |
schestowitz | From: michelle_meyers http://www.scribd.com/doc/31573987/MSFT-v-Sales-Force-Complaint-WD-Washington | Oct 28 14:21 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: I agree with you "Corporate Journalism" is a very nice phrase. | Oct 28 14:22 | |
schestowitz | I actually remember this blog | Oct 28 14:22 |
schestowitz | But Techrights never linked to it | Oct 28 14:23 |
schestowitz | How old exactly is the FauxPatents blog? | Oct 28 14:24 |
schestowitz | IIRC from March | Oct 28 14:24 |
schestowitz | Maybe later | Oct 28 14:24 |
schestowitz | Whoa | Oct 28 14:24 |
schestowitz | April | Oct 28 14:24 |
schestowitz | Same month | Oct 28 14:24 |
schestowitz | I checked the archives | Oct 28 14:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Rușii vor să renunțe la Windows http://is.gd/goq8x #microsoft #windows #free #gnu #linux | Oct 28 14:25 | |
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schestowitz | "Fueled by Roy Schestowits, the relentless editor of the Boycott Novell site who specializes in controversy, propaganda and distortion and Sam Varghese a blogger at ITWire who oddly enough also specializes in controversy, propaganda and distortion the debate has been raging on for months." | Oct 28 14:27 |
schestowitz | Haha | Oct 28 14:27 |
schestowitz | Linux enthusiast or patent enthusiast | Oct 28 14:27 |
schestowitz | author: I'll just publish proof that Linux is infringing | Oct 28 14:27 |
schestowitz | "Fueled by Roy Schestowits, the relentless editor of the Boycott Novell site who specializes in controversy, propaganda and distortion and Sam Varghese a blogger at ITWire who oddly enough also specializes in controversy, propaganda and distortion the debate has been raging on for months." | Oct 28 14:28 |
schestowitz | "Fueled by Roy Schestowits, the relentless editor of the Boycott Novell site who specializes in controversy, propaganda and distortion and Sam Varghese a blogger at ITWire who oddly enough also specializes in controversy, propaganda and distortion the debate has been raging on for months." | Oct 28 14:28 |
schestowitz | Sounds familiar | Oct 28 14:28 |
schestowitz | "battery of patents" | Oct 28 14:28 |
schestowitz | Compare to "Artillery of patents" | Oct 28 14:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/d8iTLI | Oct 28 14:28 | |
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schestowitz | LOL | Oct 28 14:28 |
schestowitz | "That is the indicator that Tom Tom had approached Microsoft first about Microsoft infringing on Tom Tom's patents..." | Oct 28 14:28 |
oiaohm | The war games are starting. | Oct 28 14:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Open Data Alliance Centre http://bit.ly/bXsVdq | Oct 28 14:30 | |
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schestowitz | Many people have focused on a #mobbyist called FauxPatents, but at the same time a sister anti-Linux blog was created. http://linuxpatents.blogspot.com/ | Oct 28 14:30 |
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schestowitz | I heard this spin before | Oct 28 14:30 |
oiaohm | There is a problem with MS attacking over patents it shows they are at a competition trouble. | Oct 28 14:31 |
oiaohm | I would love to see at least one of them decide to flat out no longer produce anything using MS OS. | Oct 28 14:32 |
MinceR | m$ doesn't seem to care about danger to itself | Oct 28 14:32 |
gnubie | schestowitz: ah, I did not know linuxpatents was a mobbyist site | Oct 28 14:32 |
schestowitz | It doesn't match 1-to-1 with theOnion | Oct 28 14:32 |
schestowitz | Maybe another mobbyist | Oct 28 14:32 |
oiaohm | MinceR: Microsoft is getting desperate. | Oct 28 14:32 |
schestowitz | gnubie: read it | Oct 28 14:32 |
schestowitz | It's anti-Linux | Oct 28 14:32 |
schestowitz | Blantently even | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | And pro-Microsoft | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | Anyone doubing Microsoft is called paranoid | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | And I am cursed for protesting | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | The author says "I'm a Linux user" | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | Perfect!~ | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | And patent enthusiast LOL | Oct 28 14:33 |
schestowitz | The author threatens and mocks Linux while claiming to use it (maybe he uses it via Google.com :-) ) | Oct 28 14:34 |
oiaohm | "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi | Oct 28 14:34 |
gnubie | I'm afraid he might have some points about vala though | Oct 28 14:34 |
oiaohm | MS using patents is a clear sign we are entering the 3 stage of the battle. | Oct 28 14:34 |
oiaohm | gnubie: MS comunit promise has more holes than swiss cheese. | Oct 28 14:35 |
gnubie | oiaohm: I know, but that does not make vala safe | Oct 28 14:35 |
oiaohm | Vala is not protected but lot of the patents over .net are most likely invalidated by prior art. | Oct 28 14:35 |
oiaohm | vala has an advantage if vala is unsafe it output standard C | Oct 28 14:36 |
dyfet | Any application whatsoever you write will violate software patents. The problem is not vala, the problem is systemic and software patents. | Oct 28 14:36 |
oiaohm | So vala can cease to exist and the application that was written in it can live on. | Oct 28 14:36 |
oiaohm | Just as a C application. | Oct 28 14:36 |
gnubie | ok | Oct 28 14:36 |
oiaohm | And there is no patents that can be applied against C language really. Its too old. | Oct 28 14:37 |
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oiaohm | Basically something like vala for .net could provide a excape route out of .net | Oct 28 14:38 |
oiaohm | So making MS patents over .net basically worthless. Attack everyone leaves so you are holding nothing. | Oct 28 14:38 |
gnubie | hmm | Oct 28 14:38 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera it's a reader who proposed it in our comments y-day. He said John Pilger uses the term "corporate journalist" (means the obvious) | Oct 28 14:38 | |
MinceR | dyfet: that's no reason to run into traps. | Oct 28 14:38 |
schestowitz | <gnubie> I'm afraid he might have some points about vala though | Oct 28 14:39 |
gnubie | should someone write a .net compiler that generates native code? that can convert the .dll's? | Oct 28 14:39 |
schestowitz | Unity uses Vala | Oct 28 14:39 |
MinceR | it's easier to find a juicy target if it screams "hey, i'm using mono!" than if it does not. | Oct 28 14:39 |
schestowitz | And it's written by GNOME-DO David | Oct 28 14:39 |
schestowitz | Mono | Oct 28 14:39 |
oiaohm | Vala I don't fear since I can create a get out jail path. | Oct 28 14:39 |
oiaohm | Mono is a different kettle of fish. | Oct 28 14:39 |
dyfet | Mincer: that much is true...one need not look for extra trouble from a litigous thug.... | Oct 28 14:39 |
MinceR | plus m$ controls the specs and the APIs and we know that's not healthy | Oct 28 14:40 |
oiaohm | Read the MS community promise you only have coverage if you implmentation is to spec. | Oct 28 14:40 |
schestowitz | <oiaohm> vala has an advantage if vala is unsafe it output standard C | Oct 28 14:40 |
schestowitz | There's another POV | Oct 28 14:40 |
MinceR | (also, .net and c# are technically crap as well) | Oct 28 14:40 |
schestowitz | The issue with Mono is near C# compat | Oct 28 14:40 |
schestowitz | So you train people to program for Windows | Oct 28 14:40 |
schestowitz | API domination and all, not just sw pats | Oct 28 14:40 |
oiaohm | Near is not good enough to get Community promise coverage. | Oct 28 14:40 |
oiaohm | Mono basically does not have coverage at all. | Oct 28 14:41 |
oiaohm | And it has no flee path either. | Oct 28 14:41 |
schestowitz | <oiaohm> Read the MS community promise you only have coverage if you implmentation is to spec | Oct 28 14:42 |
schestowitz | Mono ain't | Oct 28 14:42 |
schestowitz | Sam says it's not ECMA compliant at present | Oct 28 14:42 |
oiaohm | I know. | Oct 28 14:42 |
schestowitz | Like MS-OOXML | Oct 28 14:42 |
oiaohm | Yep no coverage. | Oct 28 14:42 |
schestowitz | For whichever v. of Office | Oct 28 14:42 |
oiaohm | So MS can free mono .net users at any time. | Oct 28 14:42 |
oiaohm | Question is when will they get desperate enough todo it. | Oct 28 14:42 |
MinceR | "free"? | Oct 28 14:43 |
schestowitz | When people ACTUALLY USE MONO :-) | Oct 28 14:43 |
oiaohm | Vala MS would be stupid to attack. Not like it will have a large effect. | Oct 28 14:43 |
schestowitz | Right now Mono is easy to put in the toilet | Oct 28 14:43 |
schestowitz | You lose just Tomboy | Oct 28 14:43 |
schestowitz | And we have gnote, data format compatible | Oct 28 14:43 |
MinceR | not banshee? | Oct 28 14:43 |
MinceR | and f-spot? | Oct 28 14:43 |
schestowitz | So an attack would just shoe the squirrel | Oct 28 14:43 |
MinceR | and gnome-do? | Oct 28 14:43 |
oiaohm | f-spot and banshee have lots of competitors. | Oct 28 14:44 |
MinceR | though those are easy to leave | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | <MinceR> not banshee? | Oct 28 14:44 |
oiaohm | gnome-do is not what you call stable. | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | People get it from repos | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | Or with OpenBallnux] | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | 11.3 | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | repos!=distribution | Oct 28 14:44 |
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oiaohm | Only place safe to get mono from is Novell at this stage. | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | If you make alt repos | Oct 28 14:44 |
MinceR | or from the noobuntu repos | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | no need | Oct 28 14:44 |
oiaohm | But that protection is not for ever. | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | Like codecs | Oct 28 14:44 |
schestowitz | Put the repos in the UK or .huy | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | Put the repos in the UK or .huHehe | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | Huy | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | In Russian | Oct 28 14:45 |
MinceR | accurate | Oct 28 14:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: Yes I saw how it came to be here, john pilger top bloke. | Oct 28 14:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer You aren't thinking about buying a MacBook Air, are you? Oo | Oct 28 14:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Suche Lasergravur in München für mein Handy und laptop - wer was weiss - bitte melden. | Oct 28 14:45 | |
MinceR | this place is dick | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | Stalin's | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | USSR map is shapes like a man in need of a haircut | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | *shaped | Oct 28 14:45 |
schestowitz | That's how I view the map anyway, with China and Mongolia and all... | Oct 28 14:46 |
schestowitz | China is the face | Oct 28 14:46 |
schestowitz | Russia is a weird outlandish afro | Oct 28 14:46 |
schestowitz | South each Asia the chin | Oct 28 14:46 |
schestowitz | *east | Oct 28 14:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @jwildeboer ♺ @yoonkit: And the OOXML beast is finally dead in Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project ... | Oct 28 14:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh I am *thinking* of a lot, but unsure what I actually will *do* ;-) | Oct 28 14:48 | |
oiaohm | "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi Vala on the Gandhi scale I use is still first stage | Oct 28 14:49 |
oiaohm | I have not seen any MS people ridiculing Vala yet. | Oct 28 14:49 |
oiaohm | Mahatma Gandhi was very observent of how people dispute. | Oct 28 14:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer @stephwho Oh Jesus.... I can think of a few better ways to spend a thousand bucks.... ;) | Oct 28 14:50 | |
schestowitz | oiaohm: he didn't invent it | Oct 28 14:51 |
gnubie | have they ridiculed mono? | Oct 28 14:51 |
gnubie | they seem to push it | Oct 28 14:52 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] ♺ @fcouchet: The European Commission published Open e-Prior, its free software electronic procurement solution http://ur1.ca/27bjf | Oct 28 14:52 | |
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schestowitz | IIRC he possibly paraphrased another person. Verbiage is all just stuff we hear and glue in our mind | Oct 28 14:52 |
schestowitz | gnubie: yeah, I was gonna say so too | Oct 28 14:52 |
schestowitz | If anything, Microsoft might enforde Vala | Oct 28 14:52 |
schestowitz | *se | Oct 28 14:52 |
schestowitz | *endorse | Oct 28 14:52 |
oiaohm | Really watch careful. gnubie | Oct 28 14:52 |
oiaohm | You don't see MS personal directly pushing mono. | Oct 28 14:53 |
oiaohm | Infact there are many documented cases of them calling it a threat. | Oct 28 14:53 |
gnubie | no, but you do see their execs and developers pushing it | Oct 28 14:53 |
oiaohm | Its desperation. | Oct 28 14:53 |
schestowitz | No | Oct 28 14:53 |
oiaohm | When mono first started MS attacked it. | Oct 28 14:53 |
schestowitz | It's plan B | Oct 28 14:53 |
schestowitz | And self interest | Oct 28 14:54 |
schestowitz | Devs move to Linux | Oct 28 14:54 |
oiaohm | Now MS is having trouble getting developers/ | Oct 28 14:54 |
oiaohm | Ie mobile market. | Oct 28 14:54 |
schestowitz | So they need them to use Guthrie et al APIs and blobs | Oct 28 14:54 |
oiaohm | We are seeing a war. | Oct 28 14:54 |
oiaohm | Mono is a different game. | Oct 28 14:54 |
gnubie | schestowitz: did you see fosdem is having a mono room again? | Oct 28 14:54 |
oiaohm | MS knows they are losing and are trying to turn the game around | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | With mono by any means required. | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | gnubie: really it is a double sided event. | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | It also gives people like me a chance to ask the nasty question. | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | Where is the ECMA standard version. | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | of mono. | Oct 28 14:55 |
gnubie | are you going to fosdem? | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | Remember we were promised it gnubie | Oct 28 14:55 |
oiaohm | I cannot but I know others going. | Oct 28 14:56 |
schestowitz | gnubie: yes | Oct 28 14:56 |
schestowitz | no | Oct 28 14:56 |
schestowitz | I mean, the room | Oct 28 14:56 |
schestowitz | I'm not going | Oct 28 14:56 |
gnubie | ok | Oct 28 14:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !gnu !linux #Novell and #opensuse uncertain future will lead probably to buyout: http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/osc-interviews/ | Oct 28 14:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Irony is being called MICRO-soft when you can't do micro computing like PMPs, phones, etc. Just a MACRO (heavy) OS for oversized PCs. | Oct 28 14:57 | |
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schestowitz | <oiaohm> Remember we were promised it gnubie | Oct 28 14:57 |
schestowitz | Yes | Oct 28 14:57 |
schestowitz | But they did it to silence us | Oct 28 14:57 |
schestowitz | And then they realised it would not quiet us | Oct 28 14:57 |
schestowitz | ..down | Oct 28 14:57 |
oiaohm | It would have silenced us a lot if they had of done what they promised. | Oct 28 14:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @mossgarden: I'm going to go buy black and yellow nail polish because I want bee nails | Oct 28 15:00 | |
oiaohm | This is also the problem for novel/ms if novell gets aquire in piceces and mono gets left behind. | Oct 28 15:01 |
oiaohm | MS may be forced to directly support the product so removing the patent cards from the table. | Oct 28 15:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tuxradar/@tuxradar] After spending two episodes catching up, we’re happy to report our podcast is back to Thursdays: http://bit.ly/diTvZa | Oct 28 15:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finnix 100 released http://blog.finnix.org/2010/10/28/finnix-100-released/ "Finnix 100 comes over a year since its previous release..." | Oct 28 15:05 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Nikolai Dante is half the reason I don't read 200AD any more. The other half being the equally more-fun-to-write-than-read Sinister Dexter. | Oct 28 15:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad ..keep postponing the release, #theSteve for sure will have a new product to announce during next year's summer: a white version! | Oct 28 15:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @mairin #Fedora website says it's "100% free". Last time I checked this was not true because of non free firmware. Any changes? !gnu | Oct 28 15:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How crowd-sourcing debunked HP prof's claim that n != NP (Science News): http://bit.ly/dvJUCS | Oct 28 15:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Can we please collectively break this stupid starhub code injection? http://ur1.ca/27cgh #fb | Oct 28 15:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @linuxdevices Digi-key is shipping a 1080p-ready devel board based on Cortex-A9 http://is.gd/govNz !ARM !PandaBoard | Oct 28 15:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @graziano it says "Fedora is 100% gratis" | Oct 28 15:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Yay! My Sintel DVD arrived! | Oct 28 15:27 | |
schestowitz | oiaohm: VMB_ware might carry on with Mono | Oct 28 15:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Pixman 0.20.0 Is Here With Performance Improvements: Just over a week ago we reported on Pixmain gaining improved ... http://bit.ly/clNTxk | Oct 28 15:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @graziano it's like those fruit juices that say 100% "pure" or 100% "natural" or 100% "fresh" or 100% "concentrated juice" //cc @mairin #PR | Oct 28 15:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @graziano prices are measured in absolute values, not % proportions. How about "free of charge and freedom-respecting"? ;-) | Oct 28 15:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Have an idea for a TV series where every week an astrologer is called in by police to work out which stars were responsible for a crime. | Oct 28 15:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @mairin Thanks for the defense :) - I'm glad people are starting to notice that it's not all my fault and that he is a troll who goads ppl | Oct 28 15:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] watching Obama on The Daily Show - http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-27-2010/barack-obama-pt--1 #fb | Oct 28 15:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] What do you do when someone stalks your blog, sends harassing emails, dents everyone in your volunteer groups and gets you fired? interpol? | Oct 28 15:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @ender2070 To know him is to ignore him. Nobody takes him seriously. At all. | Oct 28 15:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] ♻ @docufoundation steering committee phone conference available as MP3 recording: http://ur1.ca/279uk ≀ impressive, better than @w3c html wg | Oct 28 15:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Leading Spanish Travel Operator Chooses Red Hat to Virtualize Its IT Environment http://ur1.ca/27cqg Spanair downed by Windows malware | Oct 28 15:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PS - downed as in plane crash, not downtime... or plane downtime, which is not exactly an acceptable downtime to have with gravity (9.8). | Oct 28 15:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's results are out shortly, but it reshuffled the chairs on deck (divisions merging, bucket game), so look beyond _spin_. | Oct 28 15:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Distrust everyone in whom the impulse to punish is powerful!" -Friedrich Nietzsche | Oct 28 15:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz That reshuffling is often the first sign of significant trouble--major losses, departure of lots of top mgrs, acct problems. | Oct 28 15:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora to (try to) remove setuid files for F15 http://lwn.net/Articles/412237/rss | Oct 28 15:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/d0oPUK | Oct 28 15:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @schestowitz indeed. you can PAY idc/garner/etc for a report that favours you :-). | Oct 28 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz RT @harishpillay Pity that amazon cto is repeating yesterday's spiel #infocomm #fb > Amazon pays Microsoft for RHEL htt ... | Oct 28 16:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 14 Dives Deeply into Memory Debugging - with video from Red Hat engineer Will Cohen! http://ur1.ca/27cy8 | Oct 28 16:17 | |
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rb2_ | hey | Oct 28 16:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @graziano no, it's also in their mission to support as much hardware as possible, IE have the firmware | Oct 28 16:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @graziano Debian is now fully free though, in squeeze. They moved the nonfree firmware into contrib | Oct 28 16:20 | |
rb2_ | Hey people. What do you think of this logo? http://www.comunasdigitales.cl/2010/index.php | Oct 28 16:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @graziano contrary to what I heard it isn't in the firmware-linux-nonfree package though, it's separate for each thing. | Oct 28 16:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @graziano ati-nonfree for example, so you can have varying levels of free too of you like | Oct 28 16:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jolicloud 1.1 Hands On http://ur1.ca/27d1n "Jolicloud 1.1 will be provided as an upgrade for existing Jolicloud 1.0 users." | Oct 28 16:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] My take on the leaking pipeline: http://wp.me/pT1St-4H !bio !science | Oct 28 16:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Kubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat Review http://maketecheasier.com/kubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-review/2010/10/27 !kde !gnu !linux #review | Oct 28 16:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ultimate Edition 2.8 http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2010/10/27/ultimate-edition-2-8/ Yet another nice flavour of !Ubuntu | Oct 28 16:28 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz Yes I should have rephrased: there are people who make music and people who exploit them | Oct 28 16:28 | |
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schestowitz | *LOL* | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | me at ashimmy (at) hotmail dot com | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/open-source-projects-have-protect-their-brand | Oct 28 16:30 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Always impressed when I see the work of the Ubuntu Beginners Team - http://is.gd/goCR7 - great first port of call! #ubuntu | Oct 28 16:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz No, I just thought it would be really funny if that was the cause; they didn't say anything specific | Oct 28 16:30 | |
schestowitz | " | Oct 28 16:30 |
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schestowitz | Alan Shimel | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | Back to Open Source Subnet | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | Open Source Fact and Fiction | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | As I said before, the guy is a Microsofthad | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | *head | Oct 28 16:30 |
schestowitz | And this dude as well: http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/open-source-trademarks | Oct 28 16:32 |
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schestowitz | Almost everyone there is FOSS-hostile, maybe except Zonker | Oct 28 16:32 |
schestowitz | And Zonker is no FS type either, he's a pragmatist, but least FOSS-hostile in IDG's pseudo-source corner | Oct 28 16:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's nice to know that IDG's "Open Source Fact and Fiction" is not only spreading MSFT-like FUD but it also run by a Hotmail.com user. :-) | Oct 28 16:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @trashbird1240 they spin it as "marketing" them, not exploiting them. It's a meta-industry. | Oct 28 16:35 | |
schestowitz | System 76 Starling Netbook Review http://www.ghacks.net/2010/10/27/system-76-starling-netbook-review/ !ubuntu !gnu !linux | Oct 28 16:36 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Novell Appliance Architect shares his favorites so far in the Disters Contest. Someone is gonna win $10K! http://bit.ly/b95e5n | Oct 28 16:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay “Analysts sell out - that’s their business model…" --Microsoft http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Oct 28 16:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 indeed | Oct 28 16:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @schestowitz and it is a pity that not enough people realize this - people with the purse strings. | Oct 28 16:43 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay it's a taboo subject, like "trust the official news (it's never propaganda!)", your money _really_ exists in the bank, etc. | Oct 28 16:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @quaid @fontana @suehle Now we need to start looking for Spock references where he is clearly against software patents ... #swpats | Oct 28 16:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] You're making decisions by consensus, but are you collaborating? | http://bit.ly/abUMby #culture | Oct 28 16:48 | |
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MinceR | http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/3186_00e8_480.jpeg | Oct 28 16:52 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu 11.04 Unity - Poll results http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/48654/results vote now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/48654 | Oct 28 16:55 | |
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schestowitz | MinceR: pure fantasy - being able to read | Oct 28 16:58 |
schestowitz | And navigate.... With one button | Oct 28 16:58 |
MinceR | :> | Oct 28 16:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HypePhone "pure fantasy" [IMG] http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/3186_00e8_480.jpeg #Apple #humour | Oct 28 16:58 | |
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schestowitz | I used one a few days ago | Oct 28 16:58 |
schestowitz | Why any buttons at all? I didn't get it. Like it's a mole at the side/bottom of a platter.... misfit no matter how you hold it | Oct 28 16:59 |
schestowitz | It's not even a smart button like one that has multi-sensory abilities | Oct 28 17:00 |
schestowitz | It's just a clicky one | Oct 28 17:00 |
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schestowitz | If they had one like those old ones from laptops, then OK, you have more expression with the button | Oct 28 17:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !KDE 4.5.2 available for #Mandriva 2010 !! http://ur1.ca/27da0 Excellent distro. Good for XP escapees | Oct 28 17:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Seriously considering getting a new #google account !fs | Oct 28 17:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Control what is on your computer screen using only your mind! (Medical Daily): http://bit.ly/9kCQuq | Oct 28 17:20 | |
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MinceR | i do that all the time | Oct 28 17:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Newbies Should Use !Linux http://www.dragonblogger.com/newbies-linux/ it's very easy, I saw them use it | Oct 28 17:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @tekk debian is not fully free even with some firmware removed. Please see what !linuxlibre removes: http://ur1.ca/44ca @lxo | Oct 28 17:22 | |
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MinceR | my mind controls my fingers, my fingers control the input devices and that controls what is on the screen | Oct 28 17:22 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @tekk debian is not fully free even with some firmware removed. Please see what !linuxlibre removes: http://ur1.ca/44ca @lxoliva | Oct 28 17:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] it seems that LibreOffice beta 2 made it to the Kubuntu repos. Anyone can confirm it? #kubuntu #libreoffice #docufoundation | Oct 28 17:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google Is Now Providing Servants to Its Employees (Valleywag): http://gaw.kr/9kX3eE | Oct 28 17:28 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] So ppl carries around a macbook air AND an ipad because they're lighter than an ordinary laptop? Am I missing anything? | Oct 28 17:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @jwildeboer Wouldn't that make it a #GPL enforcement lawsuit? (patent part aside) Crazy stuff... | Oct 28 17:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] MeeGo 1.1 Has Arrived For Intel Atom & ARMv7: The developers behind the MeeGo operating system, the Linux-based di... http://bit.ly/aLVuSn | Oct 28 17:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Web Events Working Group http://ow.ly/19Gocz | Oct 28 17:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Developers to Meetup in Lyon (4 November) http://ow.ly/19GocA | Oct 28 17:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Now this is just genius: http://ur1.ca/27doh - Man, I love !Fallout to bits! #NewVegas :D | Oct 28 17:43 | |
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MinceR | rotfl | Oct 28 17:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to a movie night with friends. Don't really want to, I'm buggered. Had a terrible day.... Xx | Oct 28 17:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @nailuj Oracle, promoting Java in !fedora ;-) http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-October/144786.html | Oct 28 17:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh god I feel terrible. If I could shoot somebody that would actually help I think... | Oct 28 17:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @kabissa: Almost time to launch upgrade of Kabissa org directory powered by @civicrm - contact me if you'd like to preview and help test | Oct 28 17:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 28/10/2010: #Finnix 100 Released, Colour E-reader With !Linux , #Mozilla #Firefox 4 Delayed http://ur1.ca/27duf | Oct 28 18:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] methods, concepts, and code that was previously licensed explicitly for re-use; looks like Oracle is truly pulling a SCO | Oct 28 18:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz The needs of many outweighs the needs of few - Spock - The wrath of Khan - Spock on software patents and copyright | Oct 28 18:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Second time I agree Boris Johnson | Oct 28 18:08 | |
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trashbird1240 | Yo | Oct 28 18:09 |
schestowitz | Hey | Oct 28 18:09 |
trashbird1240 | can you recommend a good jabber service? | Oct 28 18:09 |
trashbird1240 | Not google! | Oct 28 18:09 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz Can you recommend a free jabber provider? | Oct 28 18:10 | |
trashbird1240 | any that use OpenID? | Oct 28 18:11 |
schestowitz | Hmm... | Oct 28 18:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Looked at ShadowStats today. Unvarnished US unemployment around 22%? 1930s peak was about 24-25%. http://cli.gs/D4vvmN | Oct 28 18:12 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] 6% of 6bn is actually 360m #CrapNews | Oct 28 18:12 | |
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schestowitz | I haven't used IM since 2004 IIRC | Oct 28 18:12 |
trashbird1240 | Yes, and I wouldn't if I didn't have lots of friends who've never heard of irc! | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | And I only installed it to keep in touch with girlfriends | Oct 28 18:12 |
trashbird1240 | I don't have a girlfriend any more ;) | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | IRC is better and I liked E-mail too at the time | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | IM is too distracting | Oct 28 18:13 |
trashbird1240 | I agree | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | Real-time, unlike E-mail | Oct 28 18:13 |
trashbird1240 | IRC is best | Oct 28 18:13 |
trashbird1240 | ytalk was always my favorite | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | IRC is a group thing | Oct 28 18:13 |
trashbird1240 | not communal like irc | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | So I can be idle for hours | Oct 28 18:13 |
trashbird1240 | but instant, and with improved joke capability | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | I can go away without informing | Oct 28 18:13 |
trashbird1240 | I see identi.ca as really really slow irc | Oct 28 18:14 |
trashbird1240 | I'm thinking about IM because I have lots of friends that it would be good to chat with (even local people) | Oct 28 18:14 |
trashbird1240 | but they're on twitter, facebook, etc | Oct 28 18:14 |
trashbird1240 | which I refuse to be | Oct 28 18:14 |
trashbird1240 | IM may be a good middle ground | Oct 28 18:14 |
schestowitz | Ew... | Oct 28 18:15 |
schestowitz | FB | Oct 28 18:15 |
MinceR | DFB | Oct 28 18:15 |
MinceR | FTFY | Oct 28 18:15 |
schestowitz | Where they shove IM down your throat | Oct 28 18:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Micro$oft brand is dying. Is M$ worse now ?No, it's bad as it ever been. Consumers are getting smart and aware, that is http://bit.ly/as8IY2 | Oct 28 18:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @nailuj: Oracle, promoting Java in !fedora ;-) http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-October/144786.html | Oct 28 18:15 | |
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trashbird1240 | yes, facebook stinks | Oct 28 18:15 |
trashbird1240 | but I'll just quietly stay away | Oct 28 18:15 |
schestowitz | trashbird1240: I read identica | Oct 28 18:15 |
trashbird1240 | ? | Oct 28 18:15 |
schestowitz | Twitter has always been shadow account | Oct 28 18:15 |
schestowitz | Identica sends copies there | Oct 28 18:16 |
schestowitz | All we get here are dents, not tweets | Oct 28 18:16 |
schestowitz | Those are what I reply to | Oct 28 18:16 |
trashbird1240 | right...but if *I* were to do that, then I _would_ be on twitter | Oct 28 18:16 |
trashbird1240 | right? | Oct 28 18:16 |
trashbird1240 | I would need a twitter account | Oct 28 18:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: Stop your money from funding USChamber's corporate takeover -- ask your local chamber to leave today: http://bit.ly/c7tXy7 | Oct 28 18:17 | |
schestowitz | yes | Oct 28 18:17 |
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schestowitz | Many have those, TechrightsBot-tr | Oct 28 18:17 |
schestowitz | As phantom accounts | Oct 28 18:17 |
schestowitz | So that when people send copies there (like me) they don't go into orphaned account in twitter | Oct 28 18:17 |
schestowitz | So when I dent something to @trashbird1240 it also goes to twitter | Oct 28 18:18 |
schestowitz | If you have no account there, then it looks weird when identica mails copies there | Oct 28 18:18 |
trashbird1240 | Sooo...you're saying I'm already on twitter ;) | Oct 28 18:18 |
schestowitz | Originally I did only identi.ca | Oct 28 18:18 |
schestowitz | Later on I created another account of the same name in Twitter. Glynmoody did the opposite, starting in Twitter | Oct 28 18:19 |
trashbird1240 | Can I do everything across twitter->identi.ca? | Oct 28 18:19 |
schestowitz | trashbird1240: no | Oct 28 18:19 |
schestowitz | Not unless you set up an account in twitter | Oct 28 18:19 |
trashbird1240 | If my friend tweets, I don't get it on identi.ca | Oct 28 18:19 |
schestowitz | trashbird1240: no | Oct 28 18:19 |
trashbird1240 | (supposing I do set up an account on twitter) | Oct 28 18:19 |
schestowitz | Just identica->twitter | Oct 28 18:19 |
schestowitz | Twitter is ego-centric AFAIK | Oct 28 18:19 |
trashbird1240 | what do you mean? | Oct 28 18:19 |
trashbird1240 | ego-centric? | Oct 28 18:20 |
schestowitz | It does not acknowledge/recognise other services | Oct 28 18:20 |
trashbird1240 | I see | Oct 28 18:20 |
schestowitz | Analogy | Oct 28 18:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/cPhQwb | Oct 28 18:20 | |
trashbird1240 | I didn't even use hot sauce on my lunch! | Oct 28 18:20 |
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schestowitz | Linux will read NTFS-formatted drive | Oct 28 18:20 |
schestowitz | Windows won't give a blip about ExtAnything | Oct 28 18:20 |
trashbird1240 | I also see that having multiple services going can be distracting | Oct 28 18:21 |
schestowitz | It's a problem when I give my external hard-drives to Winders [sic] users | Oct 28 18:21 |
trashbird1240 | I'm doing a comparison of online communities that I will post on my blog | Oct 28 18:21 |
schestowitz | trashbird1240: I linked to your blog twice yesterday | Oct 28 18:21 |
trashbird1240 | I just saw this on a Google results page: "Google is a trademark of Google" | Oct 28 18:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Profiles of !fedora users including @sparks @robynbergeron @ashcrow @fabsh @mairin http://fedoraproject.org/en/using/#interviews | Oct 28 18:22 | |
trashbird1240 | Yes, I noticed! | Oct 28 18:22 |
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schestowitz | trashbird1240: it is | Oct 28 18:22 |
schestowitz | TM | Oct 28 18:22 |
schestowitz | Let's see if they can get Googol too | Oct 28 18:22 |
trashbird1240 | I'm just glad they didn't co-opt "googol" | Oct 28 18:22 |
trashbird1240 | Now most of my students have never heard of "googol" | Oct 28 18:23 |
schestowitz | I'll do a post about identica in a mo | Oct 28 18:23 |
schestowitz | Trying to attract more users to it | Oct 28 18:23 |
trashbird1240 | I actually read somebody saying "Twitter had infrastructure problems, so we all defected to identi.ca...now I'm going back." | Oct 28 18:23 |
MinceR | schestowitz: just give those winblows users an Ext2IFS or the Total Commander plugin that can handle (maybe readonly) ext2/3 | Oct 28 18:23 |
trashbird1240 | My current problem is connotea (academic social bookmarking site) | Oct 28 18:24 |
trashbird1240 | It's been down for more than 24 hours, including when I was finishing a poster and needed some of the reference I saved there | Oct 28 18:24 |
trashbird1240 | I'm looking for an alternative | Oct 28 18:24 |
trashbird1240 | I think they're overrun with spam | Oct 28 18:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] A month of LibreOffice: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2010/10/28/a-month-of-libreoffice/ #libreoffice #docufoundation #community | Oct 28 18:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM 3.3 alpha2 is now on our download servers: http://bit.ly/bMHgn3 Help QA the release .OR try it on our sandbox: http://bit.ly/5ihNvD | Oct 28 18:27 | |
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trashbird1240 | Okay, I've created a jabber id on jabber.org | Oct 28 18:27 |
trashbird1240 | Let's see if empathy works | Oct 28 18:27 |
schestowitz | <MinceR> schestowitz: just give those winblows users an Ext2IFS or the Total Commander plugin that can handle (maybe readonly) ext2/3 | Oct 28 18:28 |
schestowitz | I don't feel like bothering to learn new tools that are associated with Windows | Oct 28 18:28 |
schestowitz | <trashbird1240> I think they're overrun with spam | Oct 28 18:28 |
schestowitz | That's why many social networks shut down | Oct 28 18:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I thought people who bought modern art were halfwits at the best of times, so how can they tell "fakes" from the real shit? | Oct 28 18:28 | |
schestowitz | Or get locked | Oct 28 18:28 |
schestowitz | Mine included | Oct 28 18:28 |
schestowitz | And Propeller died due to it too, I think | Oct 28 18:28 |
schestowitz | Once you neglect it, it'll get filled with more spam than signal | Oct 28 18:29 |
MinceR | schestowitz: you don't need to bother with learning new tools, they do :> | Oct 28 18:29 |
schestowitz | Then, the users go away too | Oct 28 18:29 |
schestowitz | And you become just an abandoned spam farm with nothing by spammers running the cms | Oct 28 18:29 |
schestowitz | That's why I no longer start new Web s/w... for now | Oct 28 18:29 |
schestowitz | After a while I'm overrun by spammers | Oct 28 18:30 |
schestowitz | And have to pay extra bandwith bills for the script kiddies who play on it, ruining the db | Oct 28 18:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Lots of security updates for Thursday http://lwn.net/Articles/412251/rss | Oct 28 18:30 | |
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schestowitz | *width | Oct 28 18:30 |
schestowitz | <MinceR> schestowitz: you don't need to bother with learning new tools, they do :> | Oct 28 18:30 |
schestowitz | They won't bother | Oct 28 18:30 |
schestowitz | They just whine to other people about Windows worms too | Oct 28 18:31 |
MinceR | then they won't be able to read your block devices :> | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | THEIR LOSS! | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | oops | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | My CAPS is bad | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | it gets stuck down | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | I hate that. | Oct 28 18:31 |
MinceR | time for a new keyboard? :> | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | yeah... I keep procrastinating | Oct 28 18:31 |
schestowitz | It's a decent keyboard, just this none flaw | Oct 28 18:32 |
schestowitz | I could train to use the right SHIFT key | Oct 28 18:32 |
schestowitz | Subconsciously I already press the left one differently than I use to | Oct 28 18:32 |
schestowitz | *used | Oct 28 18:32 |
trashbird1240 | Wow; I knew that posting was going to be provocative | Oct 28 18:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] This Tommy Sheridan trial is totally devoid of interest #BBCNews #CrapNews | Oct 28 18:33 | |
trashbird1240 | Somebody's already linked to (and posted an excerpt from) a blog posting I made two hours ago | Oct 28 18:33 |
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_Goblin | Bonjour all... | Oct 28 18:39 |
MinceR | o hai | Oct 28 18:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] LinuxPlanet - Tutorials - GIMP Tricks for Isolating Parts of Images - Erasing to Alpha http://ping.fm/q3H4o | Oct 28 18:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] MeeGo 1.1 released http://lwn.net/Articles/412284/rss | Oct 28 18:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Security: Consequences of #Microsoft #Windows Malware http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/internet-anxiety-news/ | Oct 28 18:42 | |
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_Goblin | Found an Amiga BBS.... | Oct 28 18:42 |
_Goblin | great stuff! | Oct 28 18:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Oracle, Android and the copy claims: http://bit.ly/9dnQoP [Carlo's assertion this is a reimplementation not a copy seems sound] | Oct 28 18:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @fontana: Profiles of !fedora users including @sparks @robynbergeron @ashcrow @fabsh @mairin http://fedoraproject.org/en/using/#interviews | Oct 28 18:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Oracle, Android and the copy claims: http://bit.ly/9dnQoP [Carlo's assertion this is a reimplementation not a copy seems sound] | Oct 28 18:53 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: I do another quick post about our audiocast | Oct 28 18:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @corq: Oracle: Google 'directly copied' our Java code http://zd.net/baaymK #scoracle #scroogle | Oct 28 18:55 | |
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dyfet | It is very SCOish... | Oct 28 18:55 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Interesting. Comment spam is crushing the DoFollow movement. http://www.scratch99.com/2009/05/bye-bye-dofollow/ | Oct 28 18:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @erikjfisher: Facebook Now Tries to Tell the Story Between Two Friends http://t.co/tB6xSHR | Oct 28 18:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Invitation to Identi.ca http://ur1.ca/27eeu Recommendation of #Identica as a Free software-based network | Oct 28 19:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] trying to think of a reasonably elegant way to load sprite sheets in my lib, LoadUniformTiles(tile.width, tile.height, image.w, image.h)? | Oct 28 19:07 | |
_Goblin | schestowitz: sorry roy...was getting Daniels milk ready..... | Oct 28 19:09 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: Im basically ready when you are.... | Oct 28 19:09 |
_Goblin | Richard has been back to my blog trying his hardest...... | Oct 28 19:10 |
_Goblin | I think Ive seen the last of him for a while now.... | Oct 28 19:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz Invitation to Identi.ca http://ur1.ca/27eeu Recommendation of #Identica as a Free software-based network | Oct 28 19:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Confession time....watched TV (a rarity for me) and really enjoyed Poirot last night....very very good.... | Oct 28 19:13 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: we could do an episode tonight then | Oct 28 19:17 |
_Goblin | yep...I'll let you know when Daniels gone to bed.... | Oct 28 19:17 |
_Goblin | unless you want him on! | Oct 28 19:17 |
schestowitz | Cool. | Oct 28 19:17 |
_Goblin | hes got a new truck he can talk about! | Oct 28 19:18 |
schestowitz | We could have him on, adding family atmosphere if you fund that suitable | Oct 28 19:18 |
schestowitz | Which reminds me.. | Oct 28 19:18 |
schestowitz | I changed my identica avatar today | Oct 28 19:18 |
schestowitz | That old one was sillier than the one I have now | Oct 28 19:18 |
_Goblin | I was saying a week or so ago....if you ask him what OS is the best...he says "inucks" | Oct 28 19:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[einfeldt/@einfeldt] RT @partimus Got the 3d grade teacher's printer problem solved; she was just low on ink! Didn't know how to check it! | Oct 28 19:18 | |
schestowitz | I want to go for quantity in the show | Oct 28 19:19 |
schestowitz | Not just quality | Oct 28 19:19 |
schestowitz | Cause I like high pace :-) | Oct 28 19:19 |
schestowitz | Which means we can introduce the show without preparation and stating this in advance | Oct 28 19:19 |
schestowitz | Free mic | Oct 28 19:19 |
schestowitz | We could record in a moment and upload on SUnday | Oct 28 19:20 |
schestowitz | Or Monday rathejr... | Oct 28 19:20 |
schestowitz | Around the 1st/ | Oct 28 19:20 |
schestowitz | I need a calendar | Oct 28 19:20 |
schestowitz | if it's freestyle, then we can get the wordflow going for several short shows per week | Oct 28 19:21 |
schestowitz | *workiflow | Oct 28 19:21 |
schestowitz | Maybe even 10 shows per month | Oct 28 19:21 |
schestowitz | Up to you... I read the news a lot | Oct 28 19:21 |
schestowitz | So on the show I can bring up to date wrt news and then discuss | Oct 28 19:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] If anyone says the letters "OMG" in the real world, I need to kill them | Oct 28 19:22 | |
schestowitz | Our expertise is stuff like trolls and abuse by monopolists, I reckon. | Oct 28 19:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[einfeldt/@einfeldt] RT @partimus Also got the 3d grade teacher's computer upgraded to a newer version of Ubuntu GNU-Linux. | Oct 28 19:23 | |
cubezzz | Time Traveller (maybe): | Oct 28 19:27 |
cubezzz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6a4T2tJaSU | Oct 28 19:27 |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: sorry roy...nappy emergency......back now | Oct 28 19:27 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: (not mine I hasten to add) | Oct 28 19:27 |
schestowitz | We can record in 10 minutes... I'm finishing a post :-) | Oct 28 19:28 |
schestowitz | We have Unity (Canonical) to talk about and lots of news I collected | Oct 28 19:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oracle, Android and the copy claims: SCO all over again? - http://bit.ly/9kue0y @cdaffara does the diffs #oracle #android | Oct 28 19:28 | |
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_Goblin | Yeah..I;ll wait until Daniel drops off to sleep | Oct 28 19:28 |
_Goblin | Should be around 830 | Oct 28 19:29 |
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_Goblin | @channel: http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Koobface-Variant-Infects-Linux-too-163450.shtml | Oct 28 19:29 |
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_Goblin | seems like bad news..... | Oct 28 19:29 |
_Goblin | until a researcher makes a point: | Oct 28 19:29 |
_Goblin | Researchers have repeatedly advised that as their market share increases, malware authors will begin viewing these platforms as attractive targets. | Oct 28 19:29 |
_Goblin | so Linux is a viable target? Must be more than 1 or 2 people using it. | Oct 28 19:30 |
cubezzz | there's more than one or two using it in here | Oct 28 19:31 |
_Goblin | yep! | Oct 28 19:32 |
_Goblin | cubezz: I don't know if you saw my dent....found an Amiga BBS! | Oct 28 19:32 |
cubezzz | I saw | Oct 28 19:32 |
_Goblin | heaven! | Oct 28 19:32 |
cubezzz | _Goblin, did you see the time travel vid on youtube? | Oct 28 19:33 |
_Goblin | no...? | Oct 28 19:33 |
cubezzz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6a4T2tJaSU | Oct 28 19:33 |
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_Goblin | I'll watch now! Thanks! | Oct 28 19:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] i'm really amazed at how many helpful bug reports we've been getting on the new !fedora website. please keep them coming! | Oct 28 19:33 | |
cubezzz | it's a bit odd | Oct 28 19:33 |
_Goblin | Yep its on now... | Oct 28 19:35 |
cubezzz | I have a couple of usually pictures from 1910 era | Oct 28 19:35 |
cubezzz | unusual | Oct 28 19:35 |
cubezzz | one person in a crowd is dressed very different from everyone else... | Oct 28 19:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @graziano if explanation that it is "100% gratis" isn't sufficient, definitely open to changes in wording. non english trans should be clear | Oct 28 19:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The High Price of an #Apple and the Cost of Name Monopolies (Trademarks) http://ur1.ca/27erc #sweatshop #china #IntellectualMonopoly | Oct 28 19:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 careful you don't attend any spelling bee's where the topic is "modern internet shorthand" ;p | Oct 28 19:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/a4u55B | Oct 28 19:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The right goal is not to cut our carbon emissions in half. The right goal is zero." - http://bit.ly/btdDLx kudos to #billgates for that | Oct 28 19:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Toys R Us Adds Android Tablet To The Shelf - http://bit.ly/cSb9K1 £89.99 for 7". wow, mainstream or what? #android #toys | Oct 28 19:43 | |
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_Goblin | cubezzz: very strange | Oct 28 19:43 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: not wanting to cheapen it....but it put me in mind of.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0q-kqvA-Ho | Oct 28 19:46 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Limits of Openness? - http://bit.ly/amBkXs Blender shows why there might be some #blender #openness #gpl #cc | Oct 28 19:47 | |
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cubezzz | ah yes Rappaport | Oct 28 19:48 |
cubezzz | killed himself as I remember | Oct 28 19:48 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: sort of out of place in time...but fit as well... | Oct 28 19:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Malta government starts consultation to increase use of open source - http://bit.ly/92Xfvj lots of interesting links at bottom #malta #oss | Oct 28 19:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Putting 'Game Pieces' Together Online To Win Something Patented; All The Big Social Gaming Companies Sued - http://bit.ly/9jCiXw pathetic | Oct 28 19:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The British Library's Future: Shiny, Locked-Down Knowledge? - http://bit.ly/dd6oRG how did the great BL come to this? #copyright #libraries | Oct 28 19:48 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Database right: proving infringement - http://bit.ly/9SDiE8 rare case on demonstrably counterproductive monopoly #databaseright | Oct 28 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Pharma Stranglehold: Thwarting India As Independent Maker Of Blockbuster HIV Drugs? - http://bit.ly/cyDxQa neocolonialism kills #aids | Oct 28 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Has illegal filesharing just become "a little cheaper" in Germany? - http://bit.ly/as3rFv "courts adopt rather pragmatic real life approach" | Oct 28 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @yoonkit the #OOXML beast is finally dead in #Malaysia as a National Standard. Approval by ISC-G to kill the project was agreed today. | Oct 28 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (3) Complete Sets of Bach Cantatas on Spotify - http://bit.ly/9Jcy4u greatest store of unknown masterpieces in existence #bach #spotify | Oct 28 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Extracts of India's Intervention to the WTO TRIPS Council: ACTA - http://bit.ly/c2jMtI "not sure that ACTA is TRIPS compliant"; good points | Oct 28 19:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Some data on OSS TCO: results from past projects - http://bit.ly/9Bqzj5 interesting figures #opensource #tco | Oct 28 19:50 | |
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Tekk_ | I think miguel de icaza posted on (what I assume is) lefty's blog | Oct 28 19:51 |
Tekk_ | http://gnuski.blogspot.com/2010/10/apple-osx-apt.html#c2435311653598453386 | Oct 28 19:51 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moscow Teacher 'Fired' Over Open Software Plea - http://bit.ly/agU8jJ more bullying in Russian education #russia #opensource | Oct 28 19:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] My iPad Magazine Stand - http://bit.ly/9j3YlR good post about magazine apps: "bloated, user-unfriendly" #apps #publishing | Oct 28 19:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: The High Price of an #Apple and the Cost of Name Monopolies (Trademarks) http://ur1.ca/27erc #crapple | Oct 28 19:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Big name firms form alliance to drive cloud standards - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11641158 !microsoft cut out? Good read !bbc | Oct 28 19:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Malta government starts consultation to increase use of open source - http://bit.ly/92Xfvj lots of interesting links at bo ... | Oct 28 19:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @corq: RT @wired: Chris Nolan refuses to make his third Batman movie "Dark Knight Rises" in 3D. http://lat.ms/9KNwyV Good for him! | Oct 28 19:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Court Slams Music Pirate With Huge Fine – of $41.00 http://tinyurl.com/2fhpfj8 !tpb !piracy !filesharing !bittorrent | Oct 28 19:55 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Tired but thrilled. Awesome week, great people. Rock and roll. | Oct 28 19:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @glynmoody In the US, at least, we could start by installing zero-price solar / wind generation in all homes & businesses in certain regions | Oct 28 19:58 | |
TechrightsBot-tr Tekk_ tessier ThistleWeb Thrae trashbird1240 TRIdentica TRT | Oct 28 19:59 | |
schestowitz | Tekk_: it's not his blog | Oct 28 20:00 |
schestowitz | That's another lefty | Oct 28 20:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Jason: GDGT Newsletter is out! "Why HP bought Palm" #brilliant: http://wp.me/pk3g7-8sP | Oct 28 20:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @lnxwalt140 Zero carbon emissions isn't realistic, but home solar/wind power generation and heavy insulation can reduce it considerably. | Oct 28 20:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] creepy, my notice about Unicode’s Love Hotel glyph U+1F3E9 is the sixth entry in Google … http://identi.ca/notice/56115300 | Oct 28 20:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb hrm, that would be an easy round | Oct 28 20:00 | |
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schestowitz | This one maybe even predates the troll with the same name | Oct 28 20:00 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: how long before air time? I look forward to it | Oct 28 20:00 |
Tekk_ | schestowitz: ah, okay. either way does that not look like de icaza's work? | Oct 28 20:00 |
schestowitz | No planning intended, buy you'll do the introduction | Oct 28 20:01 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: weve got Mr Tumble on so hopefully he'll be going to sleep soon | Oct 28 20:01 |
schestowitz | You take the lead | Oct 28 20:01 |
Tekk_ | schestowitz: will you have a live stream for it? | Oct 28 20:01 |
_Goblin | np.. | Oct 28 20:01 |
_Goblin | Tekk_: I wouldn't think so for the first few at least | Oct 28 20:01 |
schestowitz | Starting with intro, then we each explain how the show will work, then on to some news | Oct 28 20:01 |
Tekk_ | okay | Oct 28 20:01 |
schestowitz | I can take the lead on news cause I follow that closely | Oct 28 20:01 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 never underestimate the yoof of 2day, spell "Oh My God" - "uhm....U ....uhm.......emm" | Oct 28 20:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Malta government starts consultation to increase use of open source - http://bit.ly/92Xfvj lots of interesting links... | Oct 28 20:02 | |
_Goblin | schestowitz: yep agreed. | Oct 28 20:02 |
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schestowitz | I can provide background to you | Oct 28 20:02 |
schestowitz | [and audience] | Oct 28 20:02 |
schestowitz | Then discussion | Oct 28 20:02 |
schestowitz | It's already lined up for me in Links [date] | Oct 28 20:02 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: I'd say if we look to start recording around 830ish.... | Oct 28 20:03 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: and then the difficult first show will be out the way. | Oct 28 20:03 |
cubezzz | _Goblin, did you also notice that the horse was painted like a Zebra? :) | Oct 28 20:03 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: yeah....that was sort of a flashforward moment (if you saw the series) where there was a kangerooo in the series | Oct 28 20:04 |
cubezzz | series? | Oct 28 20:04 |
_Goblin | yeah it was a tv show | Oct 28 20:04 |
_Goblin | whole world blacks out at the same time... | Oct 28 20:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Damned Tornado tour to Glasgow has been postponed to next year | Oct 28 20:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @glynmoody: Moscow Teacher 'Fired' Over Open Software Plea - http://bit.ly/agU8jJ more bullying in Russian education #russia #opensource | Oct 28 20:05 | |
_Goblin | and then they have flashbacks of future events. | Oct 28 20:05 |
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cubezzz | um, ok not sure what you're referring to now :) | Oct 28 20:05 |
cubezzz | I was referring to the Chaplin segment | Oct 28 20:05 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: Ah...Im not making myself clear...the Zebra, almost looks like a red herring just like in Flashforward where when the world starts seeing the future, for no reason a kangeroo appears...... | Oct 28 20:06 |
cubezzz | oh... | Oct 28 20:06 |
_Goblin | the Zebra looks really out of place..... | Oct 28 20:07 |
cubezzz | I see | Oct 28 20:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @lnxwalt140 generally applicable, but I suppose the issue is initial cost | Oct 28 20:07 | |
cubezzz | let me see if I can find that other picture I was mentioning | Oct 28 20:07 |
_Goblin | I love that type of thing.... | Oct 28 20:08 |
cubezzz | there was a movie with Bruce Willis as a time traveller too I think | Oct 28 20:08 |
_Goblin | twelve monkies | Oct 28 20:08 |
cubezzz | right, that's the one | Oct 28 20:08 |
_Goblin | If you enjoy reading....The Time Travellers Wife....great stuff....the movie was awful. | Oct 28 20:09 |
_Goblin | and a spanish movie called "Time Crimes"....absolutely fantastic (with subtitles).....very funny too in a sort of sinister way | Oct 28 20:09 |
cubezzz | found it | Oct 28 20:09 |
cubezzz | ok, I'll show you the pic, you tell me what's odd about it | Oct 28 20:10 |
_Goblin | ok | Oct 28 20:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb Sigh | Oct 28 20:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @mairin might be a good idea to clarify somehow - other uses of free/freedom on http://fedoraproject.org/ indicate other meaning of 'free' | Oct 28 20:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The new barbarism: Keeping science out of politics - http://bit.ly/cJwVjQ I do worry about the US... #science #politics | Oct 28 20:10 | |
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cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/coppermine/albums/old-toronto/cne-midway-1904.jpg | Oct 28 20:11 |
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cubezzz | wrong picture, sorry :) | Oct 28 20:13 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: nope...can't see anything wrong with it... | Oct 28 20:13 |
_Goblin | lol | Oct 28 20:13 |
cubezzz | just realized | Oct 28 20:13 |
_Goblin | doh! | Oct 28 20:13 |
_Goblin | I would have been looking at that all night! | Oct 28 20:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There's a lot of small differences moving to !Fedora - like CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't take me to a terminal - now I have to search for what does | Oct 28 20:15 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: I do one more post, then we record | Oct 28 20:15 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: yeah no problem...daniels almost off to sleep..... | Oct 28 20:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Source on Rejecting Mono, Which Earns a Room at #FOSDEM 2011 http://ur1.ca/27f2v #mono #swpats #novell !gnu !linux | Oct 28 20:17 | |
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cubezzz | well one thing, I dont know what the sign is supposed to say | Oct 28 20:18 |
cubezzz | STEORRA | Oct 28 20:18 |
_Goblin | "West Germanic *sterro, from Proto-Germanic *stirnaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h₂stḗr." | Oct 28 20:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oh I see, terminals are just numbered differently in !Fedora - Alright that's not such a big deal then | Oct 28 20:20 | |
_Goblin | Right off to have a smoke before I record with Roy! | Oct 28 20:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wi-Fi won't kill the office LAN ... yet (Network World): http://bit.ly/9AYNsC | Oct 28 20:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] rd @nicubunu: New Fedora website is live: http://fedoraproject.org/ | Oct 28 20:23 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @mairin thanks a lot for the kind anwser. Italian website says "Fedora è 100% libera". Last word is 100% free as in freedom, not gratis. | Oct 28 20:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Microsoft Hates Bill Gates' Rich People Tax http://gawker.com/5675865/ | Oct 28 20:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] VP8 Codec SDK "Aylesbury" Release - http://bit.ly/dpJwdx "we plan to use duck-related names for each major libvpx release" #webm #video | Oct 28 20:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @TheOnion California Proposition 11: Makes it illegal to text while someone is saying something really important to you #OnionElection | Oct 28 20:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Verizon System Architect uses Fedora to field test a 10Gb FiOS connection: http://ur1.ca/27d2e | Oct 28 20:33 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: I'm ready. | Oct 28 20:34 |
_Goblin | Ok...give me a few mins, I'll call you... | Oct 28 20:34 |
schestowitz | I reckon people will forgive low recording quality in 1st show | Oct 28 20:34 |
_Goblin | I don't think it will be that bad.... | Oct 28 20:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Michel Barnier Still Has an Agenda Hostile Towards European Software Developers http://ur1.ca/27f8h #swpats #eu | Oct 28 20:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Anyone else wanna come to DC for the Rally to restore sanity/keep fear alive tomorrow morning? Down to crash in car, maybe floor or couch? | Oct 28 20:35 | |
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schestowitz | OK, that's my last post | Oct 28 20:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Recording Ep. 1 of !TechBytes in a moment. Got to remember to mute things... | Oct 28 20:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] tesing out emacs identica mode, I'm 1 step closer to the possibility of running emacs on a kernel and nothing more XD | Oct 28 20:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Alright time to for me to go to the campus, and meet with my adviser about my masters project! | Oct 28 20:45 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Frauenfelder: Cell-phone using time traveler spotted in 1928 Charlie Chaplin movie http://post.ly/17vFA | Oct 28 20:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Tom's Hardware benchmark Maverick - conclusion: http://is.gd/gp22q #ubuntu | Oct 28 20:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] help the Graner Family Fire Fund - Amber and Pete are close to my heart and others, contribute! http://is.gd/gp2cy #ubuntu | Oct 28 20:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @smaffulli: Oracle, !Android and the copy claims: SCO all over again? http://bit.ly/aFkGFg | Oct 28 20:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon It has to be said the speed improvments are starting to plateau. I suppose that's inevitable really | Oct 28 20:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @2600: Are you all ready for DIGITAL editions of 2600? Just let us know... | Oct 28 20:57 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: I sound quieter on the audio than I expected | Oct 28 20:58 |
schestowitz | I'm sending you the file just to probe... ensure it's OK | Oct 28 20:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @jonobacon: Tom's Hardware benchmark Maverick - conclusion: http://is.gd/gp22q #ubuntu | Oct 28 20:58 | |
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schestowitz | I'd need to make it louder on my side; apart from that, we're all set | Oct 28 20:58 |
schestowitz | [21:00:40] Tim Openbytes: when you call do you want to just start? | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | [21:00:48] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: Yes | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | [21:00:50] Dr. Roy Schestowitz: see IRC | Oct 28 21:01 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: you were louder here | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | [21:00:53] Tim Openbytes: ok... | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: you sound very clear | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | Sounds like I'm the guest :-) | Oct 28 21:01 |
_Goblin | I should hope so, the mic cost enough!!! ;) | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | That's good | Oct 28 21:01 |
_Goblin | lol... | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | It would work great | Oct 28 21:01 |
schestowitz | You're far better and ought to take the lead | Oct 28 21:01 |
_Goblin | lol... | Oct 28 21:02 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-28: Tantric TSA: The art of foreplay "I wondered what government official in what dark alley dr... http://bit.ly/cuF79f | Oct 28 21:02 | |
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_Goblin | you've got the material! great collaboratioN! | Oct 28 21:02 |
schestowitz | This one takes the longest to do, then it'll be on a roll | Oct 28 21:02 |
_Goblin | when you call, I will be quite for a few seconds and then start | Oct 28 21:02 |
_Goblin | quiet | Oct 28 21:02 |
_Goblin | ah...Im just listening to the partial ogg... | Oct 28 21:04 |
schestowitz | ok | Oct 28 21:04 |
schestowitz | I do a quick post | Oct 28 21:04 |
_Goblin | np | Oct 28 21:04 |
_Goblin | it sounds fine...its good quality | Oct 28 21:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "If there were no copyright, it would be impossible for creative people to make a living" #britishlibraryfail - http://ur1.ca/27fij | Oct 28 21:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @silner NEVER! it's not fast enough until it does what you want before you've even thought about doing it | Oct 28 21:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] It pisses me off that Microsoft use the BBC and the British Library as attack vectors on the freedom of UK citizens. | Oct 28 21:05 | |
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schestowitz | You're the one with the radio voice | Oct 28 21:05 |
schestowitz | I'll just try to add some topics | Oct 28 21:05 |
schestowitz | It'll work well, I sure | Oct 28 21:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @jonobacon: help the Graner Family Fire Fund - Amber and Pete are close to my heart and others, contribute! http://is.gd/gp2cy | Oct 28 21:07 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers "If there were no copyright, it would be impossible for creative people to make a living" #britishlibraryfail - http://ur1. ... | Oct 28 21:07 | |
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schestowitz | *I'm | Oct 28 21:07 |
_Goblin | just popping downstairs to get my coffee! | Oct 28 21:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Moscow Teacher 'Fired' Over Open Software Plea - http://bit.ly/agU8jJ more bullying in Russian education #russia #opensource | Oct 28 21:08 | |
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schestowitz | Just finishing a quick post | Oct 28 21:09 |
_Goblin | np | Oct 28 21:09 |
_Goblin | I'll cancell the d/l, Ive heard enough...Im happy with the quality, | Oct 28 21:09 |
schestowitz | darn | Oct 28 21:10 |
schestowitz | second ago I spilled mine | Oct 28 21:10 |
schestowitz | And it's all wood here | Oct 28 21:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody They may not be firing Canadian teachers but they aren't exactly embracing #OpenSource in schools here either | Oct 28 21:10 | |
schestowitz | ok, cleaned up | Oct 28 21:14 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Moscow Teacher 'Fired' Over Open Software Plea - http://bit.ly/agU8jJ more bullying in Russian education #russia #FLOSS | Oct 28 21:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Patents: The #USPTO is Failing http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/uspto-is-failing/ | Oct 28 21:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @thistleweb That would be nice :) | Oct 28 21:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: "If there were no copyright, it would be impossible for creative people to make a living" http://ur1.ca/27fij | Oct 28 21:20 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Developer Summit: Dropping KDE Desktop http://goo.gl/4Wge !kubuntu | Oct 28 21:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Today's tutorial thx to @jzb. Get your music fix on #Linux with #Clamz: http://bit.ly/cdBKQq | Oct 28 21:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @smaffulli Oracle, !Android and the copy claims: SCO all over again? http://bit.ly/aFkGFg | Oct 28 21:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] First Draft of RDB to RDF Mapping Language (R2RML) Published http://ow.ly/19GCX2 | Oct 28 21:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Associating Style Sheets with XML documents 1.0 (Second Edition) Published http://ow.ly/19GCX3 | Oct 28 21:32 | |
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dyfet | What does he mean "dropping" KDE? | Oct 28 21:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] !lo should totally release #200 when ipv4 runs out: http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/ :P | Oct 28 21:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @dpic that'd be fun, good luck! :-) | Oct 28 21:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] joining colbert's rally that is. | Oct 28 21:38 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Joined #creativecommons network as a Premium member. I really appreciate the work they're doing & I'm expecting more! http://ur1.ca/27fvs | Oct 28 21:53 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Ad server changes on identi.ca http://status.net/2010/10/28/ad-server-changes-on-identi-ca | Oct 28 22:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Oh !Canada post: "Book Policy Review" !selfpub !billC32 #democracy #culture #publishing #cdnpoli http://ur1.ca/27fxk | Oct 28 22:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Oracle Claims Google Copied Java Code - Not So Fast, Though: http://bit.ly/dvjMqm | Oct 28 22:07 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fabsh Cookie-stealing attacks. It's a valid concern, definitely. | Oct 28 22:08 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @evan Some users on identi.ca have noticed that we've changed our ad server on the site. http://ur1.ca/27fze | Oct 28 22:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @evan I'd love to support !identica by showing ads on my end(s),but privacy vs. love & support is a tough dilemma . #adblockplus | Oct 28 22:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan https protects against that? | Oct 28 22:10 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @evan I'd love to support !identica on my end(s) by showing ads, but privacy vs. love & support is a tough dilemma that I totally understand | Oct 28 22:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Yay! Make Art festival! - http://ospublish.constantvzw.org/news/configure-make-art | Oct 28 22:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Bed. #needsleep | Oct 28 22:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Where are the cuts? - http://wherearethecuts.org/ | Oct 28 22:13 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "Enclosure has become a general metaphor for the upwards migration of wealth [...] to the privileged few" - http://ur1.ca/27g2y | Oct 28 22:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Calling everything enclosure can be mystificatory, though. | Oct 28 22:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Planning to see the black 5s coming down from Fort William | Oct 28 22:15 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @robmyers it would be lovely to have something like that in Canada... anyone? | Oct 28 22:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] An epub of the Jolly Roger (free culture) comic book? Yes please! - http://www.hardabud.com/jollyroger/download.html | Oct 28 22:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Economic concepts cause more than enough confusion and harm in economics without applying them to art - http://ur1.ca/27g3g | Oct 28 22:17 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan COOKIE MONSTER!!! lol, couldn't resist | Oct 28 22:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @laurelrusswurm It would! If anyone can help with that, see here - http://blog.okfn.org/2010/10/26/where-are-the-cuts-in-your-country/ | Oct 28 22:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Very cool the page preview of Google search. Nice! | Oct 28 22:22 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: hi | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | OK, recorded | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | What we'll do now is I'll send you the file] | Oct 28 22:22 |
_Goblin | Cool! | Oct 28 22:22 |
_Goblin | Im off for a cig! | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | For you to edit and merge the theme song | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: OK, good stuff! | Oct 28 22:22 |
_Goblin | yep! np probs | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | I'll wirte some posts meanwhile | Oct 28 22:23 |
hazzy | "Eye on Patents: The USPTO is Failing" | Oct 28 22:23 |
hazzy | Good stuff | Oct 28 22:23 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: Oracle Claims Google Copied Java Code - Not So Fast, Though: http://bit.ly/dvjMqm | Oct 28 22:23 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: 27mb | Oct 28 22:24 |
schestowitz | sending | Oct 28 22:24 |
schestowitz | hazzy: thanks! | Oct 28 22:24 |
schestowitz | I wrote that while we recorded | Oct 28 22:24 |
schestowitz | It was mechanical, so I posted after we had started the first episode | Oct 28 22:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Being a volunteer with !Wikipedia's OTRS team, I understand how ticket systems work. Rule #0, they wouldn't care if you didn't respond back. | Oct 28 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ad server changes on !identica - identica switches from #adbard to google #adsense http://is.gd/gpaMS | Oct 28 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Vineyard Gets A Testing PPA http://bit.ly/dnkh0w | Oct 28 22:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I have a sudden craving for pear pie. | Oct 28 22:25 | |
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hazzy | Though | Oct 28 22:25 |
hazzy | I didn't get how the USPTO is failing | Oct 28 22:25 |
hazzy | Is it because the amount of litigation has increased? | Oct 28 22:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Working on my !NaNoWriMo #outline and !Listening to @AllisonCrowe my favorite !cc Diva perform "Skeletons & Spirits"...an edgy tune for fall | Oct 28 22:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] Lots of hook changes between D6 and D7. Thinking of a D7 (and J1.6) #CiviCRM version rather than one that works with both #civicrm #drupal | Oct 28 22:27 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If I do manage a book trailer for !inconstantmoon @AllisonCrowe's "Skeletons & Spirits" would make an awesome score www.allisoncrowe.com/ | Oct 28 22:27 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: we ought to try to get this out tonight before it becomes old news | Oct 28 22:28 |
schestowitz | Like stuff occurring an hour or a few hours ago | Oct 28 22:28 |
schestowitz | So just sticking in the theme at start and end might suffice | Oct 28 22:28 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] With cream. | Oct 28 22:28 | |
schestowitz | hazzy: yes | Oct 28 22:28 |
schestowitz | But not just that | Oct 28 22:28 |
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schestowitz | " | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | USPTO (self explanatory) | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | • Here comes the patentpocolypse | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 28 22:29 |
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schestowitz | If too many companies suffer in this system, they'll rise up | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | The more get sued, the less happy they will be | Oct 28 22:30 |
hazzy | Oh, I get it | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | And only lawyers will be happy | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | Not companies | Oct 28 22:30 |
hazzy | Yes, yes | Oct 28 22:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Half-term, thy name is bedlam - 13 hours of running around today as #parentaltaxi. Want me for work? Wait until Monday :) | Oct 28 22:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Wonder how much it would cost to get a batch of sticks of rock that say "win" all the way though? | Oct 28 22:30 | |
schestowitz | They just pay lawyers' bill to help them monopolise | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | Not to get sued | Oct 28 22:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers @laurelrusswurm It would! If anyone can help with that, see here - http://blog.okfn.org/2010/10/26/where-are-the-cuts-in-yo ... | Oct 28 22:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Can anyone program in pyGTK and could help me make a browser with weird new stuff for !bibud ? !linux !fs | Oct 28 22:32 | |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: Im back... | Oct 28 22:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Brian Behlendorf and Apache OfBiz star Ean Schuessler win Open Source for America awards: http://icio.us/4m0a3e | Oct 28 22:33 | |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: Tonight will be difficult as Im up very early tomorrow...however.... | Oct 28 22:33 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: I have the Tom Smith track cut already so if you are happy to do the pasting instead I can upload it to you... | Oct 28 22:34 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: if you want it done tonight... | Oct 28 22:34 |
schestowitz | Hi | Oct 28 22:35 |
schestowitz | Back... | Oct 28 22:35 |
schestowitz | Here's what we need to do fast | Oct 28 22:35 |
schestowitz | Process the audio | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | As you see fit | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | Post in OpenBytes | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | Produce MP3 version | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | Post that too | Oct 28 22:36 |
Ender2070 | did you guys get a show done? | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | I'll download both from OpenBytes and post in Techrights | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: yes | Oct 28 22:36 |
Ender2070 | very nice :D | Oct 28 22:36 |
Ender2070 | any guests? | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | I hope he can just stick the theme in quickly and post in OpenBytes, I'll do the rest | Oct 28 22:37 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] In the computer labs...I haven't been in these labs in like almost a year...feeling nostalgia! | Oct 28 22:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz is that your baby photo? | Oct 28 22:37 | |
schestowitz | Ender2070: next time we'll have you on if you agree | Oct 28 22:37 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram yes, my previous photo was silly. I didn't like it. | Oct 28 22:38 | |
Ender2070 | I was going to ask to be on | Oct 28 22:39 |
Ender2070 | :) | Oct 28 22:39 |
schestowitz | Cool. | Oct 28 22:39 |
schestowitz | Can do a Fedora 14 episode | Oct 28 22:40 |
schestowitz | Today we covered Fedora's new site in the 1-hour show | Oct 28 22:40 |
schestowitz | It'll be a messy show perhaps cause it's the first one | Oct 28 22:40 |
Ender2070 | I really like the new site | Oct 28 22:40 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: I'll try tonight..... | Oct 28 22:41 |
schestowitz | Thanks | Oct 28 22:41 |
schestowitz | Just needs the theme I guess | Oct 28 22:41 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: the only issue is.... | Oct 28 22:42 |
schestowitz | Then you post the ogg the wordpress, I download it from there too... we both publish | Oct 28 22:42 |
schestowitz | Just in time for MSF reuslts.. | Oct 28 22:42 |
schestowitz | Just in time for MSFT results.. | Oct 28 22:42 |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: Ive introduced myself, yet you didn't really... | Oct 28 22:42 |
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schestowitz | Intentionally | Oct 28 22:43 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: why is there three files coming down? | Oct 28 22:43 |
schestowitz | The trolls get ammo when we get off the topics | Oct 28 22:43 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: I think it sends that previous one too | Oct 28 22:44 |
schestowitz | THe one with the late hour in it is it | Oct 28 22:44 |
schestowitz | 27mb | Oct 28 22:44 |
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schestowitz | You'll have more to play with | Oct 28 22:44 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 28 22:44 |
schestowitz | Like the test call | Oct 28 22:44 |
MinceR | gn | Oct 28 22:44 |
_Goblin | so 27.77mb is the full ogg | Oct 28 22:44 |
_Goblin | MinceR: gn | Oct 28 22:44 |
MinceR | thx | Oct 28 22:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz nice! :D | Oct 28 22:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] BSG Caprica canceled http://ur1.ca/27gad | Oct 28 22:50 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: yes, 27mb | Oct 28 22:51 |
schestowitz | You could compress it down if you wanted, but no need | Oct 28 22:51 |
schestowitz | I think it's not too large for audacity to deal with easily | Oct 28 22:51 |
_Goblin | thats fine... | Oct 28 22:51 |
_Goblin | I think I can host with wordpress too | Oct 28 22:51 |
_Goblin | think Ive got a gig to play with | Oct 28 22:51 |
schestowitz | What we could also do cause it's time-criticial is post a raw thing and then process later and replace the older file | Oct 28 22:51 |
schestowitz | Just so that it's out there early | Oct 28 22:52 |
_Goblin | all Im going to do then is paste tom smith at the beginning and at the end.... | Oct 28 22:52 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: we could give two URLs for download | Oct 28 22:52 |
_Goblin | and then up in Ogg | Oct 28 22:52 |
schestowitz | In case one site is down is slow | Oct 28 22:52 |
schestowitz | Like mirror :-) | Oct 28 22:52 |
_Goblin | yep. | Oct 28 22:52 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: yup | Oct 28 22:52 |
schestowitz | And at end too, I guess? | Oct 28 22:53 |
_Goblin | yep, that will be the full ver so it will add around 8mb to the file size | Oct 28 22:53 |
_Goblin | in total | Oct 28 22:53 |
schestowitz | The text around it can be changed tomorrow when you have time... I just think we want to throw something raw out there :-) | Oct 28 22:53 |
Tekk_ | we just decided that we have a furist cat | Oct 28 22:53 |
Tekk_ | he has issues with any cat that isn't black and white.. | Oct 28 22:53 |
_Goblin | yep....here come the files....few seconds now... | Oct 28 22:54 |
_Goblin | I have a page on my site ready for the Oggcast....I'll make a post on it tomorrow in the interests of time and merely throw it up on my page today. | Oct 28 22:55 |
_Goblin | it will be here when its up'd | Oct 28 22:55 |
_Goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/techbytes-audiocast/ | Oct 28 22:55 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 10 Ways in which social media writing is different from traditional web writing (WebContent Daily): http://bit.ly/ah4sM8 | Oct 28 22:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Five Things You Need to Know about Microsoft’s PowerPivot (CIO): http://bit.ly/aneDJa | Oct 28 22:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] VMware’s Private Cloud Computing Vision (CIO): http://bit.ly/90cN4A | Oct 28 22:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] FreeBSD is pressing on with ZFS despite end of OpenSolaris. Hopefully they'll upstream to Illumos so everyone wins: http://icio.us/bhvigf | Oct 28 23:03 | |
_Goblin | Right..... | Oct 28 23:09 |
_Goblin | nearly done | Oct 28 23:09 |
_Goblin | track at the end = ok | Oct 28 23:09 |
schestowitz | Hey | Oct 28 23:09 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 28 23:09 |
schestowitz | Thanks | Oct 28 23:09 |
_Goblin | at the beginning the fade out will be a little long.... | Oct 28 23:09 |
_Goblin | when it fades from Tom to us.... | Oct 28 23:10 |
_Goblin | but the whole intro is only 30 seconds or so. | Oct 28 23:10 |
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_Goblin | if I had more time I would have made it more cohesive....but its certainly not bad. | Oct 28 23:10 |
schestowitz | There's other stuff we could do in the future | Oct 28 23:11 |
schestowitz | Like balancing volumes at the side | Oct 28 23:11 |
schestowitz | Based on the wave forms shown on the screen it's fast to do | Oct 28 23:11 |
schestowitz | Just seeing where each person speaks based on peak heights, then nromalising | Oct 28 23:11 |
schestowitz | Maybe automatically even | Oct 28 23:12 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @webmink FreeBSD is pressing on with ZFS despite end of OpenSolaris. Hopefully they'll upstream to Illumos so everyone wins: http://i ... | Oct 28 23:12 | |
schestowitz | I have no experience with that type of stuff | Oct 28 23:12 |
schestowitz | I think for a first show _all in one go_ without editing it'll be acceptable | Oct 28 23:12 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: and Ive just heard how when I closed the show I included a lot of "er's..." That will be sorted next time. | Oct 28 23:15 |
_Goblin | I blame skype and a message that popped up. | Oct 28 23:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink FreeBSD is pressing on with ZFS despite end of OpenSolaris. Hopefully they'll upstream to Illumos so everyone wins icio.us/bhvigf | Oct 28 23:17 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: for Ogg: | Oct 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | <audio src="" controls="controls"> | Oct 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | Your browser does not support the audio element. | Oct 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | </audio> | Oct 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | Put the filename in src="" | Oct 28 23:17 |
Ender2070 | im thinking the feedback will help after your first show in what to modify | Oct 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | It'll put that in a nice built-in media player in browsers like Firefox and Chrome | Oct 28 23:17 |
schestowitz | No need for Flash and it can stream too | Oct 28 23:17 |
Ender2070 | you can probably edit out any ers, coughs, etc | Oct 28 23:18 |
_Goblin | Its ok...Im just going to host it as a file... | Oct 28 23:18 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: the trolls will give us feedback | Oct 28 23:18 |
schestowitz | Sometimes to joke about | Oct 28 23:18 |
_Goblin | theres not many...Im over critical | Oct 28 23:18 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: for visitors without MSIE put that with <audio> syntax too, trust me | Oct 28 23:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @edythemighty: Russian doc: any imposed diet is a stress for your body & stress is very unhealthy. You should eat anything you want | Oct 28 23:18 | |
Ender2070 | the trolls will give publicity | Oct 28 23:18 |
schestowitz | it's then one click to stream in their browser | Oct 28 23:18 |
_Goblin | yeah...ive done it before... | Oct 28 23:20 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: THIS IS OUR test episode. We did it all in one go (over an hour) without any notes or scripts and it is not edited. We hope that it'll be acceptable and in our next episode (probably in November) we'll use experience from this first run and also refine by doing some planning, then editing. Please treat it as a beta episode if it helps and we thank for you listening. | Oct 28 23:20 |
_Goblin | just throwing in a little conversion and tried (with little time) to clean up some popping. | Oct 28 23:20 |
schestowitz | ^^post draft | Oct 28 23:20 |
_Goblin | I'll be upping in about 20 mins | Oct 28 23:21 |
schestowitz | Thanks so much | Oct 28 23:21 |
schestowitz | I realise you have to do an early tomorrow | Oct 28 23:21 |
schestowitz | I apologise in advance to you... | Oct 28 23:21 |
schestowitz | And to those who listen to a raw(er) episode | Oct 28 23:21 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @dandart the #xmpp bot can keep the context of a conversation if the related commands are used... | Oct 28 23:22 | |
schestowitz | We'll make the official "launch" next month (days from now) and call this 'pilot' or something | Oct 28 23:22 |
schestowitz | We need an episode title, we don't do numbers | Oct 28 23:23 |
Ender2070 | im excited :) | Oct 28 23:23 |
cubezzz | "Episode Zero"? :) | Oct 28 23:24 |
Ender2070 | thats a number | Oct 28 23:24 |
Ender2070 | FOSS on the Edge of Forever | Oct 28 23:25 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: _Goblin says no numbers | Oct 28 23:27 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: I'll think of a title... descriptive | Oct 28 23:28 |
_Goblin | yep...np | Oct 28 23:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Call for Review: CSS Color Module Level 3 Proposed Recommendation http://ow.ly/19GJ5q | Oct 28 23:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Vicious Anti-Rand Paul Ad Only Suitable for Adult Eyes http://gawker.com/5676011/ | Oct 28 23:30 | |
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TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vicious Anti-Rand Paul Ad Only Suitable for Adult Eyes .::. Size~: 82.39 KB | Oct 28 23:30 |
schestowitz | I'll clarify it's a think to be apologised for... cause we didn't put any time into preparation | Oct 28 23:31 |
Ender2070 | if you have bacon in the title it's an instant win | Oct 28 23:32 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: How about..... | Oct 28 23:33 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: "Trial....and many errors" | Oct 28 23:33 |
Ender2070 | Trials and FOSSulations | Oct 28 23:33 |
schestowitz | I put something to make it easy to find | Oct 28 23:34 |
schestowitz | "TechBytes Pilot: Microsoft's Android Tax, Unity and Vala, Fedora SITE Redesign, LimeWire Kaput" | Oct 28 23:34 |
schestowitz | Oops | Oct 28 23:34 |
schestowitz | "Site" | Oct 28 23:34 |
_Goblin | ok....60 secs until encoding done | Oct 28 23:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @claudiom: Really, why do people even bother with this trash? http://ur1.ca/27glm #adobeflashsucks #adobeflashisshit | Oct 28 23:35 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Adobe Flash Bug Being Exploited | threatpost .::. Size~: 55.03 KB | Oct 28 23:35 |
_Goblin | ok.... | Oct 28 23:36 |
_Goblin | done... | Oct 28 23:36 |
_Goblin | 38.8mb total size | Oct 28 23:36 |
_Goblin | is that ok? | Oct 28 23:36 |
Ender2070 | thats pretty good for an hour | Oct 28 23:37 |
_Goblin | complete with a few rough fade in and outs with the music!!!! | Oct 28 23:37 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: igreat | Oct 28 23:38 |
schestowitz | *great | Oct 28 23:38 |
hazzy | iGreat, sounds like Apple | Oct 28 23:38 |
_Goblin | its being upp'd now. | Oct 28 23:38 |
Ender2070 | LOL | Oct 28 23:39 |
_Goblin | I'd say it will take around 15mins to be published.... | Oct 28 23:40 |
_Goblin | slowwwwwww upload | Oct 28 23:40 |
_Goblin | 22% now :( | Oct 28 23:41 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We've raised $3k of @wikiHow's $4k challenge in just 24 hours - donate now & have your gift doubled! http://bit.ly/dvV14r | Oct 28 23:42 | |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: next time I'll write an outline for us | Oct 28 23:46 |
schestowitz | taking burden off | Oct 28 23:46 |
_Goblin | good idea | Oct 28 23:48 |
schestowitz | To reuce the "hmmmms" | Oct 28 23:49 |
schestowitz | *reduce even | Oct 28 23:49 |
_Goblin | Right.....Wordpress has just reported "File type does not meet security guidelines. Try another." - damn....do you want me to up it to you now to save time? | Oct 28 23:49 |
_Goblin | or shall I create an account elsewhere and host it there? | Oct 28 23:50 |
_Goblin | up to you... | Oct 28 23:50 |
_Goblin | I can send it to you via skype now if you wish... | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | send it via skyp | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | What was tge extension you chose | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | Previous version of WordPress did not like .ogv | Oct 28 23:52 |
schestowitz | It accepted ogg | Oct 28 23:52 |
schestowitz | Mine accepts both now | Oct 28 23:52 |
_Goblin | ogg | Oct 28 23:52 |
schestowitz | 3.0.1 | Oct 28 23:52 |
_Goblin | thats a better speed... | Oct 28 23:53 |
_Goblin | 7mins to completion | Oct 28 23:53 |
schestowitz | I'll make an mp3 later, as well | Oct 28 23:58 |
schestowitz | I'll set up a script that lets me do this | Oct 28 23:59 |
_Goblin | should have exported it as mp3 too...my fault. | Oct 28 23:59 |
schestowitz | With one click, then upload the thing | Oct 28 23:59 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: no need | Oct 28 23:59 |
schestowitz | I can do it here | Oct 28 23:59 |
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