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samlinuxthe reason we are seeing microsoft officially suggesting that they are supporting HTML5 rather than silverlightOct 31 00:00
samlinuxis that they are making some deal with Adobe, and it looks like part of the deal is that they need to kill off Silverlight as a competition to FlashOct 31 00:01
samlinuxthats the only reason how i see why microsoft would suddenly touting Html5 instead of silverlightOct 31 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Problem with Patents … is Patently Obvious http://ur1.ca/284nf #swpatsOct 31 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Isnt Free: Microsoft Trying To Make Android More Costly With Patent Suit .::. Size~: 47.94 KBOct 31 00:02
schestowitzsamlinux: but Silver Lie was failing before Ballmer met Adobe's CEOOct 31 00:03
schestowitzReports about SIlver Lie failing go 1-2 years backOct 31 00:03
schestowitzNo new clients anymoreOct 31 00:03
schestowitzMicrosoft can't just buy clients, either.Oct 31 00:03
schestowitzThey defectOct 31 00:04
samlinuxtrue, thats a more reason to make easier to offer Silverlight's head on a plate as a concession to AdobeOct 31 00:04
schestowitzShame on O'reilly for lying for Microsoft about Silver Lie adoption a few years backOct 31 00:04
schestowitzAdobe's RIA is key to them.. esp. videoOct 31 00:04
samlinuxfor many years since i have been tracking the open source, i was frightfully wary how much a threat silverlight wasOct 31 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #BBC stop putting #hashtags in programmes, it isn't funnyOct 31 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] the !StopUBB blog broke its record yesterday with 175 pageviews... so either something is out of kilter or !Canada is waking up to !UBBOct 31 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito worked for me just fine, try this: http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/10/30/1435222/New-York-Judge-Rules-6-Year-Old-Can-Be-SuedOct 31 00:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | New York Judge Rules 6-Year-Old Can Be Sued .::. Size~: 165.72 KBOct 31 00:07
samlinuxbecause microsoft intended it to be a replacement of the WEB.Oct 31 00:07
hazzyI don't think many people knew that, thoughOct 31 00:07
samlinuxwhat a great relief it is to know that silverlight is finally dead, and hopefully buried for good soon.Oct 31 00:08
SternreiseIt's not dead, it's just irrelevant for the webOct 31 00:09
Sternreiseit's alive and kicking in wp7Oct 31 00:09
samlinuxif silverlight hasnt taken off on the web, i dont see reason how it will work wp7.Oct 31 00:09
schestowitzbut wp7 is irrelevant, SternreiseOct 31 00:10
samlinuxall these years on the web, i have yet to see a compelling silverlight application or website.Oct 31 00:10
schestowitzSternreise: that's just damage contol in my eyesOct 31 00:10
hazzyYeah, how has WP7 been selling?Oct 31 00:10
schestowitzThey hardly have wp7 usersOct 31 00:10
schestowitzExpensive to keep ria-like tool just for a f'KIN phoneOct 31 00:11
Sternreisemay be schestowitz. but it's something ms will keep on funding till the end of the worldOct 31 00:11
schestowitzhazzy: no word yetOct 31 00:11
schestowitzWhich means it suksOct 31 00:11
schestowitzMicrosoft gave almost 100k to employeesOct 31 00:11
Sternreisewp7 is just starting. it can sell wellOct 31 00:11
schestowitzThese are not sales, thoughOct 31 00:11
samlinuxinfact i believe silverlight on wp7 is going to be one of its major downfall.  real developers are not going to be convinced moving to silverlight.Oct 31 00:11
Sternreisesamlinux: developers are bitches. just see how much objc devs there are for appleOct 31 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 3,768... this is a hoot. I don't really believe it though. Oh well, back to my !NaNoWriMo outline. They'll have it fixed later.Oct 31 00:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista Phony 7 [sic] is out and Microsoft is not giving numbers, which probably means it fails badly.Oct 31 00:14
hazzyGood point, schestowitzOct 31 00:14
samlinuxdr schestowitz, i have always wondered why no mainstream news artircles ever link the number of copies of Windows+Offce sold to the revenue numbers.Oct 31 00:15
schestowitzMaybe they are not rightOct 31 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android has about 100 times more apps than Vista Phony 7 [sic] and Apple about 200 times more. Why did Microsoft even bother?Oct 31 00:15
schestowitzMicrosoft could sell copies to itslfOct 31 00:15
schestowitzThen sell some more cheaply to the publicOct 31 00:15
samlinuxfor microsoft to earn the amount of revenue they claim they have to be selling like mega million copies of windows+office, can i just find it impossible.Oct 31 00:16
hazzySchestowitz wrote something on techrights earlierOct 31 00:17
hazzyThat said Microsoft got 60% from Windows, and 60% from office, and -20% on everything elseOct 31 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] You don't have to sue if you're on top of things →eg search for «google sues» http://is.gd/gv7gU & compare with «MS sues» http://is.gd/gv7jVOct 31 00:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: google sues - Google Search .::. Size~: 48.6 KBOct 31 00:17
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oiaohmsamlinux: Number of copies of office and windows sold are maintaince numbers.Oct 31 00:17
oiaohmsamlinux: basically about the number of machines that have died.Oct 31 00:18
oiaohmThere are only a few billion pc out there.Oct 31 00:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here's plan B for Microsoft in mobile: 7 patents, 7 lawsuits, $7bn in patent 'R&D' (writing patent applications). "7" will save the company!Oct 31 00:19
schestowitzoiaohm: you think the #s in the sheets are real cashflow?Oct 31 00:19
schestowitzIOW, when Microsoft claims x $bn in <something>, is it on sheet on bank balance?Oct 31 00:19
schestowitzCause they borrow money, stillOct 31 00:19
schestowitzAnd pay interest (=expensive)Oct 31 00:20
samlinuxthe greatest pyramid scam in world history!Oct 31 00:20
schestowitzNot GOldman Sachs?Oct 31 00:20
schestowitzMany pyramid schemes are legalisedOct 31 00:20
oiaohmThe values they are claiming for MS Office and MS Windows sales at this stage could be right.Oct 31 00:20
schestowitzDepends if you have your people in govt.Oct 31 00:20
schestowitzLike GeithnerOct 31 00:21
schestowitzPaulson, Rubin...Oct 31 00:21
oiaohmOpenOffice and others have not taken enough market share off MS Office yet to drive its income down much.Oct 31 00:21
oiaohmBut MS Office income is down.Oct 31 00:21
schestowitzMArgins downOct 31 00:21
schestowitzOOo doesn't need to bite in shareOct 31 00:21
schestowitzJust increase competitivenessOct 31 00:22
schestowitz=more EDGI (dumping), lower prices, etc.Oct 31 00:22
oiaohmAlso there has been a surge in new computer salesOct 31 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Steve B is pigheaded. The only answer.Oct 31 00:22
oiaohmReason lot of hardware that XP was on is dieing.Oct 31 00:22
oiaohmYes truly dieing.Oct 31 00:22
oiaohmCheep built motherboards have about a max life span of 5 to 6 years.Oct 31 00:23
schestowitzmobo clockOct 31 00:23
oiaohmI am talking IC failure not battery.Oct 31 00:23
oiaohmWhere the board is completely toast.Oct 31 00:23
schestowitzbattery adjusted to lifetime of pcOct 31 00:24
schestowitzcubezzz has some old PCsOct 31 00:24
schestowitzLike from the 90s, I thinkOct 31 00:24
oiaohmMotherboard batteries last about 5 years.Oct 31 00:24
oiaohmBut we replace them.Oct 31 00:24
oiaohmAnd return the machines.Oct 31 00:24
schestowitzwho's we?>Oct 31 00:24
schestowitzanyway, it's a jumper thingOct 31 00:24
oiaohmOne of the service companies I work with.Oct 31 00:24
schestowitzI once had to open it up to find itOct 31 00:25
schestowitzWhen I worked in Manchester ComputingOct 31 00:25
oiaohmIssue I am talking about is electrically dead.Oct 31 00:25
oiaohmNo jumpers trick will bring it back.Oct 31 00:25
schestowitzsoldering?Oct 31 00:25
oiaohmSome can be repair with solder because the solder has fallen off.Oct 31 00:26
oiaohmBut lot the interier tracks in the motherboard have cracked.Oct 31 00:26
oiaohmWhen its like 2 layers inside the board you cannot do much.Oct 31 00:26
oiaohmHeating and cooling of the board.Oct 31 00:27
oiaohmFrom general operation.  If the tracks have been made too thin they simple snap over time.Oct 31 00:27
oiaohmNormally at the 5 to 6 year old mark.Oct 31 00:28
oiaohmon.Oct 31 00:28
oiaohmSo Yes we are to the point where people are being forced to replace/repair there XP machines.Oct 31 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Here's plan B for Microsoft in mobile: 7 patents, 7 lawsuits, $7bn in patent 'R&D' (writing patent applications). "7" wi ...Oct 31 00:30
oiaohmhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593  Guess seen this.Oct 31 00:35
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schestowitzYsOct 31 00:41
schestowitzYesOct 31 00:41
oiaohmInteresting question is how will this play out long term.Oct 31 00:42
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/oct/26/the-hobbit-new-zealand-bidding-warOct 31 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  New Zealand refuses to get into bidding war over The Hobbit | Film | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 81.04 KBOct 31 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz @Codepope Like the words "rights" and "open", the word "choice" has been co-opted and used by those who oppose these notionsOct 31 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz @webmink he diaspora continues as Guiseppe Maxia, all-round good guy of MySQL, leaves Oracle... >as fast as Ellison's 3 ...Oct 31 00:45
hazzyhttp://little-gamers.com/comics/2010-10-04.gifOct 31 00:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KBOct 31 00:46
hazzyKinda funnyOct 31 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Control over your own life is freedom; control over others' life is power. I stand for freedom and against power." -- @rms (days ago)Oct 31 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @speeddefrost AgreeOct 31 00:47
oiaohmReally I have looked at some of the files Orcale is peaved over with google.  Yes they don't exist in harmony but they do exist in the OpenJDK that is GPL.    So the google case could turn out to be a GPL violation.Oct 31 00:47
oiaohmAnd that would not suprise me.Oct 31 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz "Control over your own life is freedom; control over others' life is power. I stand for freedom and against power." -- @ ...Oct 31 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Note: releasing a new version of a "enterprise-targeted" package before a four-days holiday is _not_ that good an idea!Oct 31 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...avoiding taxes shows the scandal of US tax laws that make it absurdly easy for companies (but not you and me) to do this." -- @rmsOct 31 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers yes, but not quite. we humans manage to play some strange legal games. then you get to goose and gander thinking.Oct 31 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Twitter petition .@TonyClement_MP to stop !UBB http://act.ly/2kw RT to sign #cdnpoli via @openmedia_caOct 31 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost you have one hour extra todayOct 31 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Something interesting http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HaTXXdTVPtLs-Kfx3VNauA?feat=directlinkOct 31 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz "Control over your own life is freedom; control over others' life is power. I stand for freedom and against power." -- @ ...Oct 31 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Watching "Up in the Air". Interesting to see since I've been in so many roles in the firing process in my life: firer, decider, victim, etc.Oct 31 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] YouTube removes video on torture of Papuans http://ur1.ca/2854x #awareness #bigbrother #nanny #googleOct 31 00:59
oiaohmhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/10/30/apple-sues-motorola-right-back-over-six-patents/  How long until everyone is sueing everyone.Oct 31 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple sues Motorola right back over six patents -- Engadget .::. Size~: 68.76 KBOct 31 00:59
linuxsamwow oiaom, i was just reading that article.. n you have the link here.Oct 31 01:01
linuxsamthe patent apocalypse is coming....Oct 31 01:02
schestowitz"Let's call the whole thing off"Oct 31 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito re "isn't that the same technology as #moonlight?" http://identi.ca/conversation/57212187#notice-57727916 yes, similarOct 31 01:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz YouTube removes video on torture of Papuans http://ur1.ca/2854x #awareness #bigbrother #nanny #googleOct 31 01:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] okay now it's time to rally to restore my feet after a long day standing & walking around DC :)Oct 31 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @leorockway: Spread freedom in the DDG search engine! http://duck.co/topic/what-to-open-source !FSF !GNUOct 31 01:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git16 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 31 01:22
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oiaohmBoy its funny to watch some people PathScale is a super computer builder.  So there major market is GPGPU not 3d rendering.  Yet people commenting here http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26648 say GPGPU is a small marketOct 31 01:27
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oiaohmIn the measure of Linux markets GPGPU is huge.Oct 31 01:27
Diablo-D3oiaohm: umOct 31 01:27
Diablo-D3Im running sha256 on my gpgpu right nowOct 31 01:27
Diablo-D3so mehOct 31 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Who's working on free software personal health records? !fsf !gnu !fsOct 31 01:29
oiaohmSo for sure you are not using the opensource nvidia drivers.Oct 31 01:29
Diablo-D3Im not on nvidia.Oct 31 01:29
Diablo-D3why the fuck would I ever use nvidiaOct 31 01:29
Diablo-D3nvidia's gpgpu performance is shitOct 31 01:29
Diablo-D3take radeon 5870 vs gtx 480, the 480 costs more, uses more watts, outputs more heat, performs about the same on 3D, and performs a third of the speed on gpgpuOct 31 01:30
Diablo-D3so fuck themOct 31 01:30
oiaohmFunny enough there is a major performance difference between windows and Linux on gpgpu with Nvidia.Oct 31 01:30
oiaohmYes insanely windows is faster.Oct 31 01:30
Diablo-D3yeah, their linux drivers are fuckedOct 31 01:30
oiaohmOf course companies like pathscale want compeition by hardware makers to remain.Oct 31 01:31
oiaohmEven if they kinda have to rescue one from there own stupidity.Oct 31 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Is this the first 1:32 of this morning?Oct 31 01:35
Diablo-D3oiaohm: well, I want it to remain as wellOct 31 01:36
Diablo-D3look at how well AMD has been performingOct 31 01:36
Diablo-D3the new 6xxx series Radeons are bankrupting Nvidia.Oct 31 01:36
Diablo-D36870 == same speed as 5780, but smaller chip die, less pipes, less watts, less dollarsOct 31 01:37
Diablo-D3its about a 10-15 improvementOct 31 01:37
Diablo-D3er, %Oct 31 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marvin Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. (Unknown) !qOct 31 01:37
oiaohmReally I want open source 3d drivers that work for 1 reason.  I want to be warped and use GPU as a floating point processor on a tilegx chip.Oct 31 01:40
Diablo-D3good for you.Oct 31 01:42
Diablo-D3AMD is paying millions to make mesaland do all this shit, so you can just wait like everyone elseOct 31 01:42
oiaohmAMD is not alone paying.   Other companies are chipping in as well.Oct 31 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Trying to write a new incremental blacklist with @ModSecurityOct 31 01:45
Diablo-D3intel wrote a half assed glsl compilerOct 31 01:47
Diablo-D3but thats about itOct 31 01:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Rangers trying to win game 3 and turn things around: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/scoreboard Giants 0, Rangers 4.Oct 31 01:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Temporary-Post-Used-For-Style-Detection-Title-1290753040: Temporary-Post-Used-For-Style-Detection-Content-1290753040 http://bit.ly/ae74miOct 31 01:57
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_GoblinEvening allOct 31 01:03
hazzyHiOct 31 01:03
_Goblin:)Oct 31 01:03
_Goblinjust got in....Oct 31 01:03
ThistleWebo/Oct 31 01:03
ThistleWeb_Goblin: good first ep btwOct 31 01:04
_Goblinlol...you are too kind...Oct 31 01:04
ThistleWebalthough schestowitz really needs to sort his mic outOct 31 01:04
_Goblinalthough I only managed to mention quickly about Limewire on it, my subsequent blog post has had a brilliant debate between myself and StonemirrorOct 31 01:05
ThistleWebI noticed the picture of you on the techrights page has a very Jayne from Firefly feelOct 31 01:05
_GoblinThistleWeb: who's that?Oct 31 01:06
ThistleWebbaldwinOct 31 01:06
ThistleWebcant remember which brotherOct 31 01:06
_GoblinI don't really watch much TV so you'll have to help me...Firefly? TV show?Oct 31 01:06
hazzyYea, it was a cancelled sci-fi TV showOct 31 01:06
ThistleWebyeah cancelled TV show, bascily cowboys in spaceOct 31 01:07
ThistleWebjos weidenOct 31 01:07
_Goblinah...Oct 31 01:07
hazzyNever seen it, myselfOct 31 01:07
ThistleWebdon't like jos weiden, firefly is alright actually, nothing greatOct 31 01:07
_GoblinI have recieved a few emails about the TechBytes banner...Oct 31 01:07
_GoblinQuite a few insults too....Oct 31 01:07
_Goblinmy favorite one....Oct 31 01:07
_Goblin"Brokeback Bytes"Oct 31 01:08
_GoblinI thought it quite originalOct 31 01:08
ThistleWeblolOct 31 01:08
_Goblinunfortunately for those emailers I don't take myself seriously enough to be offended...Oct 31 01:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Agg, it's 1:05 againOct 31 01:09
_Goblinand in any case, I have no problems with mine or anyone elses sexuality.Oct 31 01:09
_Goblinthe wife laughed at the Brokeback mail thoughOct 31 01:09
ThistleWebit's adam baldwinOct 31 01:10
_Goblinah...Oct 31 01:10
_GoblinI want a proper neck beard but two things stop me......Oct 31 01:11
_GoblinwifeOct 31 01:11
_GoblinworkOct 31 01:11
ThistleWebhttp://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Jayne_CobbOct 31 01:11
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ThistleWebwas tryin to find a pic of him in the hatOct 31 01:11
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_Goblinlol...Oct 31 01:12
_Goblinnah...nothing like himOct 31 01:13
_GoblinHang on...Didn't Serenity have the girl in it who played the Terminator in the TV series?Oct 31 01:14
ThistleWebnot sure, but the 2nd in command of Serenity (the ship) was in the MatrixOct 31 01:15
_GoblinI hated the Matrix movie...I mean really hated it....Oct 31 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Wow. What did I eat? Releasing lots of methane this evening.Oct 31 01:15
ThistleWebthe Matrix Revolutions, as Dozer's sister who stayed behind to help his wife defend zionOct 31 01:15
_GoblinI think the main problem for me was when people were released from the Matrix into "the real world" it was merely a bunch of rocks and some lightening....if that had been me I would have said "yeah thanks for that...can I go back into the machine now?"Oct 31 01:17
ThistleWebnow you see why they were sold outOct 31 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] End/7th. Giants 1, Rangers 4.Oct 31 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] My saturday night: mucking around w/ weirdly lzma-compressed potential !GPL violating firmwares. Thanks @ossguy & @armijn for assistance.Oct 31 02:04
_GoblinRight...im off to bed... turning the clock back is nice though....Oct 31 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] The game is over. Rangers win the third game. The Giants lead the series 2 games to 1.Oct 31 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Remember SplashTop? Here's An Update On Them: Do you remember SplashTop? It's the instant-on Linux environment tha... http://bit.ly/dd7kuMOct 31 02:15
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Diablo-D3[09:14:48] <_Goblin> I think the main problem for me was when people were released from the Matrix into "the real world" it was merely a bunch of rocks and some lightening....if that had been me I would have said "yeah thanks for that...can I go back into the machine now?"Oct 31 02:18
Diablo-D3soOct 31 02:18
Diablo-D3cypherOct 31 02:18
Diablo-D3mr reaganOct 31 02:18
Diablo-D3the matrix is telling me this bowl of doritos tastes like hamburgers... ignorance is blissOct 31 02:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Looks like someone won the $140,000,000 prize last night. And I was hoping to retire. ;-)Oct 31 02:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Reading about Tcllib, Tcl's standard library. #tcl #tclrocksOct 31 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jessenovels Being told if your work is good, is a waste of time, people will always like and dislike. Learn to find your own approval.Oct 31 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<working on outline and/or procrastinating before !NaNoWriMo while !Listening to Allison Crowe ... bought FLAC download of "Spiral" todayOct 31 03:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Actually reading about Snit, which is just part of Tcllib.Oct 31 04:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #WebOS devel very cross-platform. not! PDK doesn't support Linux as devel platform? http://is.gd/gvJTLOct 31 05:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] rebuilding !freeswitch packages for !centos 5.5 x86_64Oct 31 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "MS said bullying Acer, ASUS over Android patents" http://ur1.ca/287yw who needs products when @horciog and his boys use baseball bats?Oct 31 06:47
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samlinuxhttp://silverlighthack.com/post/2010/10/29/PDC-2010-Top-5-Reasons-Why-Microsoft-Completely-Screwed-up-their-web-strategy-with-HTML-5.aspx#commentOct 31 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PDC 2010: Top 5 Reasons Why Microsoft Completely Screwed up their web strategy with HTML 5 .::. Size~: 70.62 KBOct 31 06:48
samlinuxsilverlight developers spewing over the silverlight fallout..Oct 31 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq “MSFT”) is the worldwide leader in bullying, racketeering and spin that help people and businesses."Oct 31 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "What we're seeing though now can be loosely described as patent terrorism"-- James Eagleton, Sun (about Microsoft)Oct 31 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "It's [Windows is] an operating system, not a religion." Ted Waite, then CEO of Gateway. !q #gatewayOct 31 06:52
schestowitzsamlinux: :-)Oct 31 06:56
schestowitzThey are not happy about SIlver LieOct 31 06:56
schestowitzI was heckled by SL devsOct 31 06:57
schestowitzWhen saying it was dyingOct 31 06:57
schestowitzTHeir whole work down the drainOct 31 06:57
schestowitzSome made games and apps with itOct 31 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] build of #Freeswitch 1.0.6 for #CentOS 5.5 x86_64 was successful, but forgot to sign the package... after this I will publish itOct 31 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Many companies/people who foolishly developed with XAML/Silver Lie are now betrayed by Microsoft. The fools... they trusted MSFT.Oct 31 06:59
samlinuxmicrosoft strategy to co-op the internet is dead.  XAML dead. long live HTML!!Oct 31 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Think about @migueldeicaza repeatedly urging !GNU !Linux developers to write apps in Silver Lie/XAML/Moon Lie. What if they listened to him?Oct 31 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We could refresh the look and feel of the entire desktop with Moonlight" -Miguel de IcazaOct 31 07:04
samlinuxMiguel drank too much coolaid.  the man who sold his soul to the devil.Oct 31 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One yar ago: "Miguel, Microsoft and the drool factor" http://ur1.ca/2882h drooling over "Silverlight, its would-be Flash killer."Oct 31 07:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is Turning Control of Iron Languages to Miguel de Icaza and Jimmy Schementi http://ur1.ca/2883i Who does Miguel work for?Oct 31 07:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: InfoQ: Microsoft is Turning Control of Iron Languages to Miguel de Icaza and Jimmy Schementi .::. Size~: 43.52 KBOct 31 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In Halloween we sometimes wear masks, pretending we're someone we are not. :-)Oct 31 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If someone titles a blog "FOSS patents", then s/he is for FOSS and if someone titles a blog "Linux patents", then s/he is for Linux, right?Oct 31 07:12
samlinuxwhen microsoft released silverlight, i was worried then, because it was a brilliant strategy.. coop the internet with the new flashier shinier XAML.. better fonts, better animation, integrated multimedia.. if it caught on with the web developers we would have been in big trouble... but loh they make one tragic flaw and based it on .net, the result XAML was slow, huge byte chunks, memoryOct 31 07:13
samlinuxleaking, crashing browsers... long live HTML!Oct 31 07:13
schestowitzYEsOct 31 07:14
schestowitzThat's their vision at the timeOct 31 07:14
schestowitzEvidently they failedOct 31 07:14
schestowitzNow they'll deny itOct 31 07:15
schestowitz"No! It was just for a f'KIN phone!"Oct 31 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Astroturf is a "grassroots program that involves the instant manufacturing of public support..." http://ur1.ca/28855 #ACT #ATL #LawMediaOct 31 07:15
samlinuxyes they have been denying their plan to internet coup d'etat with XAML.. so much that people dont wake up and smell the ...Oct 31 07:17
schestowitzI got TurferOct 31 07:18
schestowitzBy WongOct 31 07:18
schestowitzHe marketed XAML as "rich experience"Oct 31 07:19
schestowitzIn our blog commentsOct 31 07:19
schestowitzRIA BSOct 31 07:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The reason FauxPatents and de Icaza get along so well on Twitter is not their sympathy for Microsoft; FauxPatents is a .NET developer #loveOct 31 07:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Entryism is a political tactic by which an organisation or state encourages its members or agents to infiltrate another organisation" -WPOct 31 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Elop has... accepted the job as CEO of Nokia... look forward to continuing to work with him in his new role at Nokia" --Steve BallmerOct 31 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New York Times: "Microsoft to Authorize Proxy Fight at Yahoo" http://ur1.ca/2888sOct 31 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is to technology what Kissinger in to peace in south-east Asia? :-)Oct 31 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A lot of people make that analogy that competing with Bill Gates is like playing hardball. I'd say it's more like a knife fight."-Gary ClowOct 31 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The original founders included five Caltech graduate students in Computer Science (Gary Clow..." http://ur1.ca/2889eOct 31 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who do not like Microsoft often buy Apple. People who do not like proprietary (user-subjugating) software buy neither MSFT nor AppleOct 31 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “We have to let go of the notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose.” –Steve Jobs. Remember: Apple wants to keep locks around.Oct 31 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man... the morning after a wine tasting is always slightly sub-optimal...Oct 31 07:34
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/elkos/statuses/29222978054 "even drug manufacturing methodology patents have a time frame (usually 5-10 y) software patents on the other hand are infinite!"Oct 31 07:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Eleftherios Kosmas: @schestowitz even drug man ... .::. Size~: 12.59 KBOct 31 07:37
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/elkos/statuses/29223147693 "correction it's 12y under the new Obama legislation"Oct 31 07:37
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schestowitzI think it's 20 or 22 yearsOct 31 07:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Codepope/statuses/29222160789 "It's still patent aggression, involving software patents. And the fact is Nokia went to court first, it was not defensive."Oct 31 07:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Dj Walker-Morgan: @schestowitz It's still pa ... .::. Size~: 12.63 KBOct 31 07:38
schestowitzSee http://techrights.org/2010/06/04/apple-vs-nokia-whose-fault/Oct 31 07:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Nokia Sued Apple First (or Why Apple is Possibly the Bad Guy) | Techrights .::. Size~: 127.32 KBOct 31 07:39
schestowitzWait, I probably should tell him in identica too........Oct 31 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @DaHammerstein U.S. Gov´t : genes shouldn´t be patented. Important policy change. "Isolated genes part of nature". http://nyti.ms/aRYreIOct 31 07:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope from what I could gather, Apple had been threatening Palm with patents in order to harm sales and then this: http://ur1.ca/05ggaOct 31 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @fabricapo Juve beating Milan is a great start of the day. [...]Oct 31 07:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/57741750Oct 31 07:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: aurelien (aurele)'s status on Sunday, 31-Oct-10 07:09:42 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.85 KBOct 31 07:43
schestowitz@schestowitz and what if devlepers write apps in mythryl.org programming language ?Oct 31 07:43
schestowitzmythryl.org?Oct 31 07:44
schestowitzhttp://mythryl.org/Oct 31 07:45
schestowitzwth?Oct 31 07:46
schestowitzI have never been to that site before.Oct 31 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope the #mobbyist @FAUXpatents has just said that "Motorola vs. Apple was a preemptive strike." That's what I thought, too.Oct 31 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody November is free software month in Ecuador [es] - http://bit.ly/91J5Jh we need more of these #freesw #ecuadorOct 31 07:54
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schestowitzHmmmm... "unrelated cases - Nokia and apples neg history predates that" http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/29257597048 "Moto vs apple was, but we were talking about Nokia vs Apple, which wasn't" http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/29257669432Oct 31 07:56
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/nixternal/status/29254904331 "damn, except for the year, that almost sounds like USGOV :)"Oct 31 07:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] People who do not like Microsoft often buy Apple. People who do not like proprietary (user-subjugating) software buy neither MSFT nor AppleOct 31 07:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/nixternal/status/29254952788 "the same needs to be said about Linux too, though I think on the desktop, Linux might be a stronger religion :p"Oct 31 07:57
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schestowitzIIRC, the context of these remarks from Ted Waite was how Microsoft pressured OEM to deliver desktops its own way, like Apple'sOct 31 07:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #freeswitch 1.0.6 packages for #centos 5.5 are being uploaded to http://files.gbraad.nl/freeswitch/1.0.6Oct 31 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope thanks, I'll do more reading on it.Oct 31 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz RT @glynmoody November is free software month in Ecuador [es] - http://bit.ly/91J5Jh we need more of these #freesw #ecuadorOct 31 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I've used Linux. I am using all platforms. I tried Ubuntu in Virtual PC, but..." {famous troll saying}Oct 31 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gnufreex In soviet Russia, chairs throw Balmer. http://ur1.ca/280ssOct 31 08:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @tuxdotking: "Freedom is a feature, not a bug, and those who insist on considering it a bug are not your friends." -Dana BlankehornOct 31 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @graziano] ♻ @danto there's a gnu #linux version of #ryzom already available in http://ur1.ca/280hp Would be nice to try and support itOct 31 08:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Blog Post: October Update: InconstantMoon & NaNoWriMo & Blogs http://ur1.ca/288od #StopUBB #FreeByron #BillC32 !SelfPub !NaNoWriMoOct 31 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @beginlinux: Salix KDE 13.1.3 released! The first ever Salix KDE edition. http://bit.ly/aOkafiOct 31 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @meegoblog: #Flash Player 10.1 coming to #Blackberry and #Windows Phone 7, but not iOS4 http://nowskip.to/90foA2Oct 31 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: When Life of a Patent is the Death of a Person http://ur1.ca/284h1 #patent #acta #trip #monopoly #india #brazilOct 31 08:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft Tries to Prevent #Asus, #Acer from Using #Android, #ChromeOS http://is.gd/gw5N7 #romaniaOct 31 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webmink: RT @michaelpollan: Bit of good news: Obama admin weighs in against patenting life. http://p2.to/134NOct 31 08:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @pietercolpaert You don't have to sue if you're on top of things →eg search for «google sues» http://is.gd/gv7gU & compare with «MS sues»Oct 31 08:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git16 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 31 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu #Microsoft Tries to Prevent #Asus, #Acer from Using #Android, #ChromeOS http://is.gd/gw5N7 @horaciog knows #extortion is #crimeOct 31 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Enable IMAP push (Gmail) in Evolution http://is.gd/gw6oy #evolution #google #linux #gnu #emailOct 31 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @trashbird1240 re "Who's working on free software personal health records?" > the major one is VistA, I think, but there are smallerOct 31 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s VP Jim Allchin: “I am Scared [of GNU/Linux]” http://ur1.ca/288rs Now they just use #swpats against !LinuxOct 31 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @DaHammerstein U.S. Gov´t : genes shouldn´t be patented. Important policy change. "Isolated genes part of nature". http://nyti.ms/aRYreIOct 31 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How to upload a #video to #YouTube and ensure it is viewable in #WebM http://is.gd/gw7T4 #gnu #linux #windows #vlc #mac #google #romaniaOct 31 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @beginlinux Salix KDE 13.1.3 released! The first ever Salix KDE edition. http://bit.ly/aOkafiOct 31 09:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If genes can be patented, then our body is a constantly-patent-infringing machine. If algorithms can be patented, our hearts should stop.Oct 31 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is storing a copyrighted photograph in the human brain an involuntary felony? How about reproducing it from memory? Boycott brains.Oct 31 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [URGENT] Cei legati de ASE Bucuresti sunt rugati sa anunte INCEPATORILOR evenimentul IT Free Software de miercuri http://is.gd/gwaTkOct 31 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] completely forgot about it: Daylight Savings Time started again #wintertijdOct 31 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @quaid ♺ @jimmy_wales This is the most awesome image in a Wikipedia article, ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_pageOct 31 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] RT @jbfavre First mini-#debconf of the day: smartcards in !debian. Should be mandatory for french journalists to help them protect their ...Oct 31 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With Software Patents “Microsoft Claims to Own the Whole Field of Syncing E-mail Between a Cloud and a Device.” http://ur1.ca/28970 #swpatsOct 31 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @schestowitz "Control over your own life is freedom; control over others' life is power. I stand for freedom and against power." - ...Oct 31 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Government Wrestles With Patent Dilemmas http://ur1.ca/289fn #swpats #nasa #uspto #monopolyOct 31 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Switch-off to terrestrial digital means that I'll watch #motgp and #moto2 decently. Live coverage in minutes.Oct 31 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #moto2 here we are fan of Jannone, De Angelis, Luthi and Elias. But all are good. Moto 2 is fun.Oct 31 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] We Love Technology http://goo.gl/EE87Oct 31 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Moto2 is going to be very tricky. Track is drying up but it's not quite dry yet. Slick tires, slippery.Oct 31 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On the way back home...Oct 31 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Random meeting with head of local MS gold partner co, he seemed shocked when told I could not download his programme as I was a Linux user.Oct 31 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: Sorry to take so long to reply as I missed your post, ty for taking time to look for me I am looking into this now.Oct 31 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Blender Modelling Environment for Architecture https://sites.google.com/site/opendesignsolutions/Oct 31 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] People have been screwing with the system so much that I decided to take a stand. Software patents in the WORLD are NO longer VALID.Oct 31 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Boo.Oct 31 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Gonna get ya gonna get ya.Oct 31 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Make: Online : Play Zork on an !Arduino-controlled typewriter" from http://ur1.ca/289q4Oct 31 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Blender "Yafaray Shaders Database | BlenderNation" from http://ur1.ca/289rkOct 31 11:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !winehq "Vineyard Gets A Testing PPA ~ Web Upd8" from http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/vineyard-gets-testing-ppa.htmlOct 31 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-10-31: U.S. Says Genes Should Not Be Eligible for Patenting Welcome and surprising intervention by... http://bit.ly/9MTcm3Oct 31 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !swpats are a nice earner against small companies and M.A.D. against bigger players. Perhaps we could call it the Mexican Cartel Option? !fsOct 31 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Carsten Munk, @stskeeps shows dual-booting !MeeGo 1.1 and !Maemo 5 on the !N900 http://is.gd/gwyw2Oct 31 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back home.Oct 31 12:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp about to startOct 31 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Here we are fans of Valentino Rossi, Ducati, Capirossi. #MotogpOct 31 12:44
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schestowitzhi, phurl, gnufreex, Ender2070Oct 31 12:48
gnufreexhi schestowitz.Oct 31 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp what has Spies done? He's down, doesn't seem he can start, also because the pit lane is going to be closed soon.Oct 31 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] EU food safety chief forced to quit GM lobby role http://ur1.ca/28a3f #sneekygoingsonOct 31 12:49
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Ender2070hey royOct 31 12:49
Ender2070I can do the show if its not too lateOct 31 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @schestowitz I can if it's not too late. I just need to prepare.Oct 31 12:50
Ender2070lolOct 31 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git17 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelOct 31 12:52
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schestowitzEnder2070: sure, let me just wait for TimOct 31 12:55
Ender2070what kind of stuff are you going to ask me aboutOct 31 12:55
Ender2070i need to prepare some notesOct 31 12:55
schestowitzAn introduction to what's in Fedora 14Oct 31 12:56
schestowitzYou know better than usOct 31 12:56
Ender2070ok thats coolOct 31 12:56
Ender2070i already have talking points for f14Oct 31 12:56
schestowitzCool!Oct 31 12:57
schestowitzIt's easy in dialogueOct 31 12:57
Ender2070ill probably bring up some cool stuff they added in f12 and f13Oct 31 12:57
schestowitzUbuntu added that tooOct 31 12:57
schestowitzAnd called it Ubuntu technologyOct 31 12:57
schestowitzI think we should touch issues of creditOct 31 12:58
Ender2070??Oct 31 12:58
schestowitzLike the whole gnome thingOct 31 12:58
Ender2070added whatOct 31 12:58
schestowitzFrom GregK (not Greg KH)Oct 31 12:58
schestowitzAnd gnome-shell which red hat developsOct 31 12:58
schestowitzAnd ubuntu overridesOct 31 12:58
schestowitzTo explain people why there are upset peopleOct 31 12:59
schestowitzEnder2070: we can record it now and merge laterOct 31 12:59
Ender2070okOct 31 12:59
Ender2070i just need a tea, ill brbOct 31 12:59
schestowitzthe reorder I have so far is for skype only (I want ekiga one too)Oct 31 13:00
schestowitzlet me know when you're backOct 31 13:00
Ender2070I have skype installedOct 31 13:00
schestowitzmy username is schestowitz_logOct 31 13:00
schestowitzmy username is schestowitzOct 31 13:00
Ender2070kkOct 31 13:00
Ender2070ill just be a few minutesOct 31 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo's outfit is a sting in the eye.Oct 31 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp great start by Andrea DoviziosoOct 31 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @ratholeradio: There will be a live RR tonight at 9pm. Clocks have gone back in the UK though, don't forget - http://ratholeradio.org/liveOct 31 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo breaking away.Oct 31 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Hayden takes the lead. He's a rocket now.Oct 31 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @20lb: Tune into Rathole Radio tonight at 9pm (21:00 UTC) for an exclusive 20lb Sounds announcement. It's gonna be fun :)Oct 31 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp what a bagarre!Oct 31 13:07
Ender2070ok I added youOct 31 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo, Rossi, Stoner, Dovizioso- Things are changing so fast. Fun Big TimeOct 31 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Stoner raises the bike after the corner twice as fast than Hayden. #motogpOct 31 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp and Rossi takes the lead. He's bashing Lorenzo. Stoner charging from behind.Oct 31 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Stoner slides, he's off. Moron, too many times this year.Oct 31 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Stoner is a fast machine, but heavily lacks in tactics, where Valentino is unreachable #motogpOct 31 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] 13 new native-language mailing lists for LibreOffice available: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00015.htmlOct 31 13:14
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schestowitzEnder2070: seems good to goOct 31 13:15
schestowitzShall we do it in one go?Oct 31 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] ♺ @pla1: I don't understand what the Unity fuss was about. As long as you have the choice of Gnome or Unity. No prob. http://is.gd/gwA21 !uOct 31 13:15
Ender2070sureOct 31 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp good to see Pedrosa back in sixt positionOct 31 13:17
schestowitzSays you're offlineOct 31 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Simoncelli 4th, but he always loses pace towards the end. Will this time be different?Oct 31 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp I must confess that Lorenzo has a really nice driving technique. He has improved greatly.Oct 31 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp I mean "I must admit"Oct 31 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp are we watching cat & mouse game between Rossi and Lorenzo? Time will tell.Oct 31 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Every end is a new beginning - leading team members of the German OpenOffice.org Community made their decision: http://ur1.ca/28afvOct 31 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motgp Simoncelli in the tails of Hayden.Oct 31 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @floeff: Zahlreiche Mitglieder der DE-Community von OpenOffice.org haben sich entschieden: http://ur1.ca/28afq #ooo #docufounfationOct 31 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #Lorenzo way faster than ValentinoOct 31 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo breaking away, hope Vale recovers fastOct 31 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ender2070: What made you decide to post in given name?Oct 31 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Rossi upshifts without clutching, but uses the clutch when downshifting. Never noticed that #motogpOct 31 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo has a much faster pace, no chances for Rossi?Oct 31 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp nice battle between Simoncelli and Dovizioso.Oct 31 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp last lap. Battle is behind for thirdOct 31 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Yay, my #Freerunner phone is working again after a some tense soldering to apply a hardware fix.Oct 31 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo wins, good race. Dovizioso snatches the podium with a great last corner and overtaking on the final straight.Oct 31 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Simoncelli takes the fourth position. Not the best result this year, but great race nonetheless.Oct 31 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Guy from Manchester gets jail for being an internet Troll: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-11650593Oct 31 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp Lorenzo, why oh why you do that dumb sketch? But better that than trying to do what Rossi does "usually"Oct 31 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Debian Installer 6.0 Reaches Beta: With the upcoming release of Debian Squeeze, the Debian Installer team has anno... http://bit.ly/c1CXqLOct 31 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #motogp I hope next year we'll have more than 20 bikes. Really, 17 is ugly. Watching it live it's even worse, silence on track is awkward.Oct 31 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @320x200 #FLOSS and #graphics workshop: #howto apply #p2p methodology in #graphicdesign using #freesoftware http://ur1.ca/289wqOct 31 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Taja i cavei, SIC ;-) #motogpOct 31 14:09
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sebsebsebHiOct 31 14:10
schestowitzEnder2070: 9.1 MBOct 31 14:10
schestowitzThanks, that'll be good for the showOct 31 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is a high powered debate of recent Irish history . Some of the barbs are on the surface for others read closely. http://ur1.ca/28anyOct 31 14:10
schestowitzsebsebseb: hiOct 31 14:12
schestowitzWhat's up?Oct 31 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes Brandon and I have a 40-minute Fedora segment for the show. I can do the rest any time today.Oct 31 14:12
sebsebsebschestowitz: got back from holiday last nightOct 31 14:12
Ender2070:)Oct 31 14:13
schestowitzThanks, Ender2070Oct 31 14:13
schestowitzthat was excellentOct 31 14:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: bought my first Linux Format on the way at the air port, and you were in itOct 31 14:13
sebsebseband I have bought other Linux Magazines in the pastOct 31 14:14
Ender2070thanks for having me on the show roy :)Oct 31 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @martincasc ♺ @psep: ♻ @debian !Debian #installer 6.0 beta1 released http://ur1.ca/2890w | in memoriam Frans PopOct 31 14:14
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schestowitzEnder2070: any time!Oct 31 14:14
sebsebseband uhmm didn't know I could get 20 minutes on the net for free at the place, untill later on, but when I did know, yep did that.  so enough time to keep up to date with some of the Linux news, such as how they will use Unity in the desktop version of Ubuntu and stuff like thatOct 31 14:14
schestowitzsebsebseb: I need to get a copy tooOct 31 14:14
sebsebseboh yeah and how Limewire is closing downOct 31 14:15
schestowitzNever used it myself...Oct 31 14:15
schestowitzI don't do p2p...Oct 31 14:15
schestowitzBut they could go after torrents next... they already do... TPBOct 31 14:15
schestowitzp2p and torrents are almost the same thingOct 31 14:15
sebsebseb20 minutes for free per day at the place, but the timer is already going down, after pressing accept, and its still finnishing to load up prorpelry or whateverOct 31 14:15
schestowitzWays for people to distribute information cheaply, like free/libre software, books, independent film...Oct 31 14:16
sebsebseband Internet Explorer 8 and Windows Live Messenger, and I think Office on there as well.  IE8 yeah :( ,but at least not IE6 :)Oct 31 14:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: read the techrights thing in Linux Format pretty much straight away when seeing it was thereOct 31 14:16
sebsebsebalso I would have thoughtOct 31 14:16
sebsebsebthat they would have maybe given you a free copy, since you were part of itOct 31 14:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: of course most of the stuff in that magazine is old news now.  When buying these Linux Magazines from the shop, most of the content is already quite well old news, I have found.Oct 31 14:17
schestowitzIt's like when I did the segment for a filmOct 31 14:17
schestowitzOn French+US+Swiss TVOct 31 14:17
schestowitzI never got the DVDOct 31 14:18
schestowitzBut they paid meOct 31 14:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: well better get this one quick I guess then, since the new one is coming out soon or whateverOct 31 14:18
sebsebsebalso I understand what a guy was saying to me on IRC, about how Linux Format is very UbuntuOct 31 14:18
sebsebsebhe wasn't happy about thatOct 31 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I came looking for you earlier. How about the rest done Monday morning. I'm on way to work.Oct 31 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @satipera huh?Oct 31 14:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: well its not very nice being back to the coldOct 31 14:19
Ender2070hey schestowitz - do you think I can get a copy of our interview for my girlfriend ?Oct 31 14:20
sebsebsebEnder2070: what interview?Oct 31 14:20
Ender2070techbytes :)Oct 31 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes yeah, I'll be here Monday morning. We can record, edit, then I'll do the rest. Fedora is out on Tuesday. !TechBytesOct 31 14:20
schestowitzSure, it'll be merged into the episode when we apply noise filters someone recommended to usOct 31 14:21
Ender2070cool :)Oct 31 14:21
schestowitzEnder2070: I hope the first episode will get as many downloads as the pilotOct 31 14:21
schestowitzOpenBytes didn't 'advertise' the pilot at all.Oct 31 14:21
sebsebsebWhat do you guys think about how Ubuntu 11.04 will use Unity instead of Gnome Shell by default?  hightlight time :D  MinceR gnufreex hazzy  Ender2070 schestowitz  Diablo-D3 cubezzzOct 31 14:22
schestowitzsebsebseb: we talked about itOct 31 14:22
sebsebsebfor the desktop versionOct 31 14:22
schestowitzsebsebseb: don't mass-highlightOct 31 14:22
schestowitzIt's bad netiquetteOct 31 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Generative wallpapers for !Ubuntu: Game of Life http://goo.gl/gmkHOct 31 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Going to the cinema to see Stone with the wife tonight. De Niro and Norton, two of my favourite actors.Oct 31 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♻ @docufoundation Every end is a new beginning - leading team members of the German #OOo Community made their decision: http://ur1.ca/28afvOct 31 14:22
sebsebsebI would have thought it has been talked about, when I was awayOct 31 14:22
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gnufreexI must have missed that disscusion.Oct 31 14:22
gnufreexI think Canonical will failOct 31 14:23
schestowitzIn audioOct 31 14:23
sebsebsebgnufreex: well I sure did, I was away some where hot :)Oct 31 14:23
schestowitzFor Monday's showOct 31 14:23
schestowitzsebsebseb: Spain?Oct 31 14:23
sebsebsebschestowitz: good guessOct 31 14:23
sebsebsebnot the main land, but yes SpainOct 31 14:23
sebsebsebSo where did I go?Oct 31 14:24
*schestowitz does a post on ie6Oct 31 14:24
*schestowitz brbOct 31 14:24
sebsebsebschestowitz: Why since I mentioned it a little while ago?Oct 31 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @andyc The All-In-One printer driver SW for my Father-in-Law's HP PhotoSmart 3400 printer weighs in at 556 MB. More than some Linux distroOct 31 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ender2070: Your posts are not appearing under a nickname or nom de plume but under what I assume to be a given name (from parents) why?Oct 31 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @satipera here? i've always done itOct 31 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc about to start, it's always great show, stay tuned after the lights and red carpets of #motogpOct 31 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ender2070: Its okay I must be cracking up. I thought it always appeared as ender2070Oct 31 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Terol is well placed after the start, a big crash in the rear. No serious damage thoughOct 31 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♻ @docufoundation Every end is a new beginning - leading team members of the German #OOo Community made their decision: http://ur1.ca/28afvOct 31 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc for the few who wonder, Bradley Smith is not the same as the GC of Microsoft.Oct 31 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] I will only ask this once: Is it better to use American spelling or British spelling as a non native speaker? #cantDecide and know bothOct 31 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc ho, no, bad crash, this time people injuredOct 31 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc no surprise, three Spanish drivers in the leading four positions.Oct 31 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] 13 more native-languages mailing lists opened today! #docufoundation #libreoffice #communityworksOct 31 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Great high-side by Cortese (was Cortese?), a classic! #125ccOct 31 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc rain. WTF!Oct 31 14:40
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schestowitzsebsebseb: which island?Oct 31 14:42
sebsebsebschestowitz:  guess?Oct 31 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz np see u in irc. Shame, I had a few questions I wanted to ask Brandon. !techbytesOct 31 14:42
schestowitzWhat's the point?Oct 31 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Terol takes the wide route and saves the day.Oct 31 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes get the recorder installed and do a session with him as well, then merge. !TechBytesOct 31 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes I'll send you the audio first to avoid repetition of questionsOct 31 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Terol's bike was already at its limit breaking and waving the rear as a flag in the wind.Oct 31 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to rehearsals again.Oct 31 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc it's raining again...Oct 31 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc red flag, obvious.Oct 31 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc race is going to be 9 more laps, sarting at 16:05 (15:05 local)Oct 31 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @carlopiana The #Microsoft GC is actually Bradford SmithOct 31 14:52
Diablo-D3[10:19:31] <sebsebseb> What do you guys think about how Ubuntu 11.04 will use Unity instead of Gnome Shell by default?  hightlight time :D  MinceR gnufreex hazzy  Ender2070 schestowitz  Diablo-D3 cubezzzOct 31 14:55
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: Im in the "Who gives a fuck" campOct 31 14:55
Diablo-D3sebsebseb: I use xfce.Oct 31 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @quaid ♺ @jimmy_wales This is the most awesome image in a Wikipedia article, ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_pageOct 31 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana: true, but since he's known by the name of "Brad"...Oct 31 14:55
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Diablo-D3sebsebseb: if ubuntu wants to fuck up their distro that badly, Im not standing infront of that train(-wreck)Oct 31 14:56
gnufreexHahaOct 31 14:56
gnufreexExactly what I am thinking.Oct 31 14:56
sebsebsebwell it sounds like that other distros will be able to use Unity as wellOct 31 14:56
Diablo-D3thats pretty much the party line, reallyOct 31 14:56
schestowitzUnity can help redistrubte the gnu linux userbaseOct 31 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz thanks but due to unusual week at work I think it will be pushing it time wise. !techbytesOct 31 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana: And also John Hopkins is not the same as the hospital/universityOct 31 14:57
schestowitzBy driving users away (off Ubuntu)Oct 31 14:57
hazzyI was thinking that too, schestowitzOct 31 14:57
gnufreexBut I also think Unity looks better than GNOME-shell (for what I saw), but it won't matter. canonical can't fix more bugs than whole GNOME community, they are alone. And people outside won't join them because they have cray Copyright Agreement. So clusterfuckOct 31 14:58
schestowitzwould be ok for the 'ecosystem'Oct 31 14:58
schestowitzCanonical had too much powerOct 31 14:58
gnufreex*crappy CAOct 31 14:58
schestowitzThough they could get away with not upstreamingOct 31 14:58
schestowitzUnity by default=HubrisOct 31 14:58
schestowitzBut it's Free softwareOct 31 14:58
schestowitzSo they do nothing wrongOct 31 14:58
sebsebsebschestowitz: = what?  Hubris???Oct 31 14:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana @fontana, his use of nickname 'Brad' is among reasons I don't use it anymore& only go by "Bradley". (Race car driver is another)Oct 31 14:59
gnufreexsebsebseb: hubris - Excesive pride, the thing Zeus zapps you forOct 31 14:59
Diablo-D3bkuhn is some sort of loli battle tank?Oct 31 14:59
schestowitzsebsebseb: too much pride and thinking they are not defeatable... no matter what choice they makeOct 31 14:59
schestowitzThey should have joined gnome-shellOct 31 15:00
schestowitzAnd made commits to itOct 31 15:00
schestowitzBut no Canonical (C) thenOct 31 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn @fontana so you reckon we should not use names, but random-generated UID's? ;-)Oct 31 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn question is inherently undecidable because !GPL violation is a legal concept and not a technical concept :-)Oct 31 15:00
gnufreexWhy they need all that copyrights? Why they are hoarding them? Bcause shuttlecrook wants to sell canonical and more copyrights means company worths more since there are more things new owner can make propriatary.Oct 31 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, no. I just want my canonical name to be the first hit in search engines. :) Plus I don't want to share first name with assholesOct 31 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc oh, shi** Marquez has destroyed his bike. Goes for the pit laneOct 31 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes okay, we have 40+ minutes already. Will need to cover Apple's new lawsuit against Android and other news. !techbytesOct 31 15:02
schestowitzSell it how though?Oct 31 15:02
schestowitz'Open' core?Oct 31 15:02
schestowitzLike making a better Unity with addons?Oct 31 15:03
gnufreexProbably Open Core. Or 100% propriatary.Oct 31 15:03
schestowitzhe would not do thatOct 31 15:03
schestowitzproprietary I mean..Oct 31 15:03
gnufreexMaybe he wouldn't, but new owner wouldOct 31 15:03
gnufreexJonathan Schartz didn't want to sue googleOct 31 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,Even *if* "violating !GPL"was technically specifiable, it'd still be an undecidable question (like perfect program optimization is)Oct 31 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Oh, nice, a naked bike on the track. #125cc But he's taken the red flag and will strart from the pit lane.Oct 31 15:04
gnufreexAlso, Jonathan didn't want to make Solaris propriatary again... but Larry wantsOct 31 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Just finished re-licensing my .la files posts as #CCBYSA for compatibility with !gentoo documentation http://is.gd/gwSNnOct 31 15:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,in other words,I tend to believe showing a program violates !GPL is a similar problem as showing two programs compute same functionOct 31 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching One Piece 471 !animeOct 31 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz yep np. I've got a piece if time permits, however it been difficult to keep up this week. Damn work! :( !techbytesOct 31 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Espargaro starts with rain tires?Oct 31 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn @carlopiana interestingly, there's a Brad (Bradley) Smith who works at #Red_Hat http://ur1.ca/28b25 (ogg)Oct 31 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, well, as long as there is no other Bradley *Kuhn* other than me, the race car driver, & the dead marine in motorcycle crash in AZ.Oct 31 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think you're right, though for some reason reminds me of fact that academic computer science is largely corrupted by proprietary swOct 31 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, True, but Computational Complexity folks I met tend to be Free Software friendly academic CS people. They love #LaTeX though.Oct 31 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes at least half an hour recording, then some editing, I'll do the rest. Pilot episode got over 1000 downloads. !techbytesOct 31 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Marquez has jumped nearly all the people in front of him and he's now fourth. Genius!Oct 31 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Espargaro doomed. If it starts to rain in 2 laps his tires will be dead and he'll be running on slicks anyway...Oct 31 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn It is interesting when certain people call you 'Brad', provides clue to when they met you & degree of subsequent contactOct 31 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Boo! #scaredyoudidntiOct 31 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn Another thing I noticed during !GPLv3 drafting era is "Brett Smith" and "Brad Smith" can sound quite similar cc: @brettcsmithOct 31 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Can I apologise again to anyone whom I have not yet responded too. It'll be 12 days at work with no day off. I will try to find time!Oct 31 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Espargaro is doing a great race with his rain tires. But Marquez is impressive. Chapeau!Oct 31 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On the non-cached side (traffic which gets served not from our proxy) I see about 1200 downloads so far !TechBytesOct 31 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz excellent! This will probably be the last dent for today, I'm almost at work. See u Monday. !techbytesOct 31 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last week's pilot episode is still downloaded about 30 times per day (ok for pilot without subs or promotion) !TechBytesOct 31 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Marquez has taken huge risks to get close to Terol, but now he's more relaxedOct 31 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Bradley Smith is doing his job. #125ccOct 31 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] With only 3 laps to go, Marquez must pull a rabbit out of his hat, now he's still third. #125ccOct 31 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn ability to do work with pencil and paper probably provides some immunity to ordinary corruptibility tendenciesOct 31 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Marquez overtakes Smith and he's berserk after Terol, a great final leap ahead!Oct 31 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz to your google sues thing I see a slight problem with it, you're probably using google to search ;POct 31 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #125cc Marquez jumps over Terol, Terol strikes back and goes wide.Oct 31 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Terol wide again #125ccOct 31 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Game over, Marquez does it #125ccOct 31 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] HUGE VICTORY!!! Marquez from zero to hero in 9 laps. What a rider!!! #125ccOct 31 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Lock-in Tricks Decrease Rather Than Increase Microsoft’s Market Share http://ur1.ca/28b6r well done, MicrosoftOct 31 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Espargaro ha preso il pagone, che senso ha? #125ccOct 31 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk I wanted to write this when I RT'd it, but didn't have enough characters (microblogging). We know Google distorts some results pages.Oct 31 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Microsoft Death Watch – The Mainstream Media Notices the Problem http://bit.ly/c6Kx2mOct 31 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ahOct 31 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @pietercolpaert Depends. If you're targeting the US you'll get head asplodes on UK spelling. UK doesn't care if it's not a British writer.Oct 31 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] KDE Developers Discuss Merging Libraries With Qt: Well, here's some interesting weekend news: there's a polarized ... http://bit.ly/ctwLZZOct 31 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @themadhatteron Microsoft Death Watch – The Mainstream Media Notices the Problem http://bit.ly/c6Kx2m >I hardly track MSFT anymore. VoidOct 31 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatteron Tim of @openbytes has wanted to have you on one of our future !TechBytes episodes. Would that be possible?Oct 31 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I've just found a photo of me presenting at the Software Freedom Day at Szeged: http://sfd.org.hu/p1340318Oct 31 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz Yes. Only limit is what my body decides to do that day :(Oct 31 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] @robmyers: really? I was thinking exactly the oppositeOct 31 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz You may not be tracking it, but I know a lot of people still stuck with it, and they need to be warned.Oct 31 15:39
Ender2070Diablo-D3 - I use KDE myself so I never tracked that muchOct 31 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatteron with Windows?Oct 31 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @themadhatteron I think that @openbytes wanted to also talk to you about #copyrightOct 31 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera EU food safety chief forced to quit GM lobby role http://ur1.ca/28a3f #sneekygoingson #gmo #monsanto #patents #monopolyOct 31 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Why would the music of !faifcast be under CC-BY-ND but the actual talk is unser CC-BY-SA? :)Oct 31 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] YaRock - A Music Player Designed For Browsing Your Music Collection Based On Album Cover Art http://bit.ly/d3O6XSOct 31 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Music And EXIF Metadata Information In Nautilus List View [Nautilus Columns Extension - PPA] http://bit.ly/bE87aiOct 31 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The major advantage of using OO.o on Windows is in the default range of Arabic fonts. Haven't heard of functionality differences !faifcast.Oct 31 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes I've just made you admin of !techbytes http://identi.ca/group/techbytes/Oct 31 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We might have earned a commitment from @themadhatteron for a future episode of !tb . First episode planned for Monday.Oct 31 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Pioneer Awards are just 8 days away! Tickets available in advance:https://eff.org/r.5tuOct 31 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] @schestowitz I know a lot of poor bastards who are still running Windows, and who are going to have huge problems when Microsoft goes under.Oct 31 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Sure, copyright is one of my favorite issues.Oct 31 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] What time (I'm five hours off Greenwich)Oct 31 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @osamak, because we don't hold copyright on the music & cannot change its license. Obvious, no?Oct 31 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] If you enable #kerberos USE on !gentoo I expect you know what it's used for … and not complain if it slows down your login…Oct 31 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @bkuhn I mean, does Mike have issues with releasing music under a free license?Oct 31 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Feeling kinda crummy today, possibly caught a cold. Throat was attacked by a cheese grater overnight. Bucking up: trick-or-treat tonight!Oct 31 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] "Via Digbeth" shall henceforth be a meme.Oct 31 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @charlesschulz 13 more native-languages mailing lists opened today! #docufoundation #libreoffice #communityworksOct 31 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana @fontana @bkuhn and what about "Brett Smith"? Always a tad confusing in audio. Same as "brad smith" (MSFT)Oct 31 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @pietercolpaert Hey don't let me stop you using British spellings. :-)Oct 31 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Not always same reason. I stopped going by "Brad" in early 2003, but some ppl call me that anyway who didn't know me before then.Oct 31 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] In front of a toshiba ac100-10d. Man it's cool! Android-based I reckon. SuperlightOct 31 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft withdraws from IronPython and IronRuby development http://ur1.ca/28bpa "I see dead projects..."Oct 31 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Fedora 13 sailing along http://insidesocal.com/click/2010/10/fedora-13-sailing-along.html "it's working so very well"Oct 31 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,I assume during my !GPL enforcement case deposition on Nov. 11th,they'll call me "Mr. Kuhn" though. They called Erik:"Mr. Andersen"Oct 31 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Beginning of the end for Microsoft? http://ur1.ca/28bqo "Microsoft's chief software architect, leaves the building."Oct 31 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Putting Varnish In Front Of Apache On Ubuntu/Debian http://ur1.ca/28bub !techrights uses #varnish happilyOct 31 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] #Tinderbox64 building; #KVM upgrading glibc with debug information; #Rudy uploading a new stage4 to #EC2; who said it's sunday?!Oct 31 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from rehearsals, now cooking dinner.Oct 31 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Identica is Fun http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/31/identica-recommendation/Oct 31 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] PTS3 Iveland Development Update: For those interested in the development activity of Phoronix Test Suite 3.0 "Ivel... http://bit.ly/axk5gsOct 31 17:15
schestowitzhttp://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#linux_root_access_vulnerabilitiesOct 31 17:16
schestowitzUsually those flaws only affect machines a person has remote login account for, if not physical access. With Microsoft Windows you can be anyone, anywhere.Oct 31 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Did they stress it the right way? ;)Oct 31 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] How do I mark all items as read in newsticker? !emacsOct 31 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn Be prepared for the question: "What is your relationship to one Ty Kuhn, Mr. Kuhn?"Oct 31 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, my answer is ready: "I am not aware that Ty Kuhn nor Ty Coon are anything other than fictional people."Oct 31 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Absolutely on point! http://is.gd/gx7H4 I love the !FSFeOct 31 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "... !Ubuntu 10.10 is the best Ubuntu yet. It is clean, polished, user-friendly, and very functional." http://djere.com/node/23Oct 31 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Dire Straits while I cook some chicken for dinner. The chicken is swimming in vermouth, cream and créme fraîche... :)Oct 31 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] How to get gwibber to use the Ubuntu font http://ur1.ca/28c53Oct 31 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] /me mutters something bad about other distributions on #EC2Oct 31 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz That does EMR, PHR is a different thing; does VISTA do that? Microsoft is throwing lots of R&D at PHR !medicineOct 31 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] In Boston for KS & PlumbersOct 31 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux vulnerabilities: old or new? http://ur1.ca/28c80 "product of the "new" kernel development model adopted in the early 2.6 days."Oct 31 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Forecast: Ubuntu To Challenge… #Facebook? http://goo.gl/OdHd #WeMenuOct 31 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @trashbird1240 See http://www.medsphere.com/faqs on PHR. About Microsoft's PHR, it's scary because Microsoft can use it to get bailed outOct 31 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Desktop !Linux is Dead, but Linux is Still the Future http://www.tech-faq.com/desktop-linux-is-dead-but-linux-is-still-the-future.htmlOct 31 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Blah, #Fallout3 froze again while fighting Deathclaws… NewVegas is definitely going to be for #XBox…Oct 31 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Like any dictatorship, when things start to get tough Microsoft is going to discover that it has ... very few friends." --Dan GillmorOct 31 18:15
MinceRsebsebseb: i don't care about ubuntu, unity or gnome shell at this pointOct 31 18:22
MinceRi might give unity and gnome shell a try eventuallyOct 31 18:23
schestowitzYou-nieghtyOct 31 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Arundhati Roy in increasing trouble http://ur1.ca/28cfwOct 31 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "I see dumb people... they're everywhere... they don't even know they're dumb..." !q #motdOct 31 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !Ubuntu Forecast: Ubuntu To Challenge… #Facebook? http://goo.gl/OdHd #WeMenu (via @toros)Oct 31 18:29
schestowitz"Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." --Richard StallmanOct 31 18:32
schestowitzhttp://elevenislouder.blogspot.com/2010/10/another-hackintosh.html Another HackintoshOct 31 18:33
schestowitzSo much work?Oct 31 18:33
schestowitzAnd what for....?Oct 31 18:33
MinceRto amaze the cultists, perhapsOct 31 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @schestowitz @rysie "Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." --Richard Stallman !qOct 31 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Bringing The Game Into Disrepute http://bit.ly/dnZ0GmOct 31 18:34
MinceRespecially the ones who work for shuttlecockOct 31 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ahhh.... That was good. Now settling down with a beer and prepping !LO for release....Oct 31 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Brining The Game Into Disrepute http://bit.ly/dnZ0Gm !football !mufcOct 31 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol, deleted a post to add the tags, only to create a typo on the repost #failOct 31 18:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb gaming goes well with pickles in brineOct 31 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz Thanks! I'll tell Dr. AdamsonOct 31 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz lolOct 31 18:42
schestowitz"IMHO, Ubuntu attracts users that, mostly, don't contribute; as they do upstream (not contributing)" http://identi.ca/conversation/57248476#notice-57762825Oct 31 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @reality I really wish people would just stop talking about things being dead or this being the year of things and just get on with itOct 31 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz "Like any dictatorship, when things start to get tough Microsoft is going to discover that it has ... very few friends." ...Oct 31 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Unity: some further clarification points - http://is.gd/gxg6u #ubuntuOct 31 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Help debug #ACTA http://acta.ffii.org/wordpress/?p=164Oct 31 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Ha! Look at that! John De Lancie ("Q") uses a PR-40! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIckeYVuMC0 :D !loOct 31 18:49
MinceR"First, I highly recommend grabbing a retail disc of Snow Leopard. It's only $30.00 and you don't have to worry about download/burn integrity."Oct 31 18:50
MinceRi lol'dOct 31 18:50
MinceRfigures -- only a crAppel fanboy would pay $30 so he doesn't have to use md5sum or sha1sum onceOct 31 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay !gentoo PAM bugs start to feel less stale…Oct 31 18:50
MinceRs/pel/ple/Oct 31 18:50
schestowitzMinceR: wait.Oct 31 18:52
schestowitzA mac has a CD-ROM drive?Oct 31 18:53
schestowitzI thought the machine just comes with POWER button and Lion preinstalled with DRM all around itOct 31 18:53
schestowitzAnd FireWire where USB should beOct 31 18:53
schestowitzOne jackOct 31 18:54
schestowitzFor hypeP[od|hone]Oct 31 18:54
schestowitzCan install OS X on any machin... just requires candles and potions and stuff for the ceremonyOct 31 18:56
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Nokia-third-quarter-2010-earnings/Oct 31 18:56
schestowitz"Nokia will cut 1,800 jobs and restructure its smartphone business, despite a strong third-quarter performance, the Finnish phone manufacturer disclosed on Oct. 20. "Oct 31 18:57
schestowitzThat's like half a Nov ellOct 31 18:57
schestowitz*NovhellOct 31 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @FFII Help debug #ACTA http://acta.ffii.org/wordpress/?p=164Oct 31 18:57
MinceRm:>Oct 31 18:58
schestowitzI'll try it for a whileOct 31 18:58
MinceRthey're giving up on ieee1394 alreadyOct 31 18:58
MinceRtoo expensive ;)Oct 31 18:58
schestowitzOr Nov*ellOct 31 18:58
MinceRs/m:/:/Oct 31 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] It is "guising", not "Trick or Treating" #ScotsOct 31 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @rahulsundaram: To contribute to #Qt, you need to grant a perpetual license to #Nokia to do whatever they want http://ur1.ca/28crt #FAILOct 31 19:05
schestowitzMinceR: just made an image of thatOct 31 19:08
schestowitzYou'll see it soonOct 31 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rahulsundaram: To contribute to #Qt, you need to grant a perpetual license to #Nokia to do whatever they want http://ur1.ca/28crtOct 31 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @muscovy ♺ @mmiicc: ♺ @jonobacon: Unity: some further clarification points - http://is.gd/gxg6u #ubuntu !uOct 31 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ffii identica has an option that allows you to post to Twitter automatically whenever you post in identica. You can keep them in synch.Oct 31 19:19
hazzyhttp://www.good.is/post/c-mm-n-an-open-source-transportation-project/Oct 31 19:19
schestowitzhazzy: no word about it in a long timeOct 31 19:20
hazzyOh, you've heard of it?Oct 31 19:20
schestowitzLots of press in 2008-9Oct 31 19:22
schestowitzThey seem to be using the "open source" tag for publicityOct 31 19:23
hazzyProbablyOct 31 19:23
schestowitzAt least the "open source sex" folks have given it a restOct 31 19:25
hazzyErr...?Oct 31 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Another New Blog Post | Publicly Releasing The Ref's Commentary http://bit.ly/bM1Jwd !football !mufcOct 31 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Dubious about carbon trading http://ur1.ca/28cxhOct 31 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Meet #Transparency Actictivist Steven #Aftergood https://eff.org/r.5tuOct 31 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Meet #Transparency Actictivist Steven #Aftergood https://eff.org/r.5tuOct 31 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Opening up of GSM - http://bit.ly/bt4yr4 good intro to v. important area (via @9600) #gsm #opensourceOct 31 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] 


@ffii yeah, it would be really nice if I could read your posts in identi.ca as twitter is not pro-Free Software.Oct 31 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @schestowitz "Like any dictatorship, when things start to get tough Microsoft is going to discover that it has ... very few friends." ...Oct 31 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple seeks monopoly through court action against Motorola - http://zd.net/8X4S2E it's as simple as that #patents #innovationOct 31 19:34
schestowitzMinceR: Steve Wozniak: "Android frustates me"Oct 31 19:34
schestowitzhttp://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-10-21-024-35-IN-MOOct 31 19:34
schestowitz"I use Android, but"?Oct 31 19:34
schestowitzLike Ed Bought?Oct 31 19:34
MinceRstrangeOct 31 19:34
MinceRbut wozniak is a nutcase anywayOct 31 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz the fact that twitter does not have that option in reverse says a lot about twitter #littleislandsOct 31 19:37
hazzyHow many patent lawsuits has Google provoked?Oct 31 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anti-Linux trolls often use the "I like/use Linux, but..." line; recently I saw the same with Android. http://ur1.ca/28d1sOct 31 19:39
MinceRhe wanted a "phone" that can't do anything, not even make or receive calls and the hypePhone does just that for himOct 31 19:40
schestowitz_logwith antenna issueOct 31 19:41
schestowitzRemember he bought Android for when hypePhone failOct 31 19:41
schestowitzSidekick so to speakOct 31 19:41
MinceRi didn't know his "backup" phone ran androidOct 31 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb yes, I said it yesterdayOct 31 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is speeddefrost with 132 dents!Oct 31 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nearly done with the show notes for !LO 172...Oct 31 19:54
schestowitzhttp://www.esecurityplanet.com/news/article.php/3909646/Google-Revamps-Privacy-Practices-Following-Wi-Fi-Snag.htmOct 31 19:55
ThistleWebcheck 5live right nowOct 31 20:07
ThistleWebMS boss being interviwedOct 31 20:07
ThistleWebUK bossOct 31 20:07
ThistleWebwell about to beOct 31 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Does rental amount to sharing in any real economic, social or moral sense?Oct 31 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MS UK boss about to be interviewed on 5Live !MSBBCOct 31 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @thistleweb I suppose I ought to listen reallyOct 31 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @silner yeah it's not started yet, but he is in the studio as a guest, just mentioned it to draw ears to the BS he spewsOct 31 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Just released: Linux Outlaws 172 - Port 25 http://ur1.ca/28dbs ++ We talk about the move to Unity and much more...Oct 31 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Just released: Linux Outlaws 172 - Port 25 http://ur1.ca/28dbs ++ We talk about the move to Unity and much more...Oct 31 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @chalkahlom: "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry PratchettOct 31 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] I use MySQL but rarely establish primary keys. Does this make me a noSQLer, or just a lazy admin?Oct 31 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Quackery http://ur1.ca/28deaOct 31 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my bad, I heard the intro, the first few words & assumed the interview had started, it appears the interview is later in the showOct 31 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @biosshadow: Dear @HTC, please stop breaking the law and release the GPL sources for the modified TI wifi driver used on the Slide.Oct 31 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Yay! C has *6* exec commands for running Unix programs. And they're tricky to tell apart! Nuance!Oct 31 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] now it beginsOct 31 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @thistleweb Actually he's being asked questions where it's hard for him to spout to much rubbish - so far :)Oct 31 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OK, so that was rather short and sweet, but hey, I didn't know what was coming, back to the regular programming aka "carry on"Oct 31 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon "we are not diverging away from GNOME, just producing a different shell" - I believe that's an oxymoron. http://ur1.ca/28dhkOct 31 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm rethinking and reorganising the tags on the screencasts, which will affect the rss feeds. I'll do a quick blog post when it's readyOct 31 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Copyright assignment is as good as a non-derivative works licenceOct 31 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to play some #NewVegas. It was a long weekend and with the new !LO out, I can finally relax a bit...Oct 31 20:39
schestowitz[20:07] <ThistleWeb> check 5live right nowOct 31 20:42
schestowitzIs that a show that had reasons to bring him?Oct 31 20:43
schestowitz[19:39] <hazzy> How many patent lawsuits has Google provoked?Oct 31 20:44
schestowitzMaybe 20?Oct 31 20:44
ThistleWebit's a business show, regular slotsOct 31 20:47
ThistleWebshares / finance / buisness etcOct 31 20:47
ThistleWebso he was a legit guestOct 31 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb MS UK boss about to be interviewed on 5Live !MSBBC > yay. #PROct 31 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The only thing worse than advertising is taxpayers-funded advertising (which you *will* pay for, to be deceived whether you want or not)Oct 31 20:47
ThistleWebas much as he was asked about MS core products being eaten away at, it was a platform to play the successful innovator cardOct 31 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 31/10/2010: #SplashTop Updates, Salix !KDE Releases, !Debian Installer 6.0 @ Beta http://techrights.org/2010/10/31/salix-kde-releases/Oct 31 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I made honey and mustard sauceOct 31 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh nice. You included I Move On (Sintel’s Song) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeFwEnyMl8AOct 31 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @biosshadow: Dear @HTC, please stop breaking the law and release the GPL sources for the modified TI wifi driver used on the Slide.Oct 31 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon is the 2- and 3-d parable (ish) fair? It implies shell lives in a flat universe at a lower dimension. Monitor has 2-d only.Oct 31 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon there's not really 3-d, just illusion of it on PC. Stereo-vision is a start, horses see backwards too. In PC, 3-d is metaphors.Oct 31 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People Who Should Not Run !gnu !Linux http://ur1.ca/28dnx "1) People with money to burn..."Oct 31 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @fabsh: @jonobacon "we are not diverging away from GNOME, just producing a different shell" -[...] that's an oxymoron. http://ur1.ca/28dhkOct 31 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Maverick Meerkat on an "Apple"-branded PC - Lots of M! http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-maverick-mac.html save a #Mac w/ !UbuntuOct 31 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Creating Pipes in C (linuxhq): http://bit.ly/ajlQ8eOct 31 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @robmyers @fabsh .. "we are not diverging away from GNOME, just producing a different shell" [...] that's an oxymoron. http://ur1.ca/28dhkOct 31 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Wonder if the parents of those kids I gave red bulls as a treat for Halloween will sleep at all this night. #IHateHalloweenOct 31 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Developers Think http://ur1.ca/28dt1 "Nearly four out of five developers use some open source software.."Oct 31 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Use of open source operating systems, primarily !Linux distributions, jumped to 61% from 48% in 2009." http://ur1.ca/28dt1Oct 31 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vector !Linux 7.0 Alpha 3 Reviewed! http://www.linuxcritic.com/vector-linux-7-0-alpha-3-reviewed/ "Fast with no-lag"; Light tooOct 31 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Cost of environmental failures http://ur1.ca/28dvjOct 31 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz What Developers Think http://ur1.ca/28dt1 "Nearly four out of five developers use some open source software.."Oct 31 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @equitas: My latest column at @fsmag: "Have #Oracle just made it worse for everyone?" http://is.gd/gxz3O #OpenOfficeOct 31 21:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 think #China will use their world's fastest supercomputer to help clean up #pollution, or make more of it? gu.com/p/2kync/twOct 31 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 many national/state emblem plants&animals are close to extinction. We r replacing reverence of #Nature w/ celebrities& 'brands'Oct 31 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I wonder if it's bad style to remove the "Education" section on my resume… it's not like my high school diploma is worth anything…Oct 31 21:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gordon Frazier managing director of Microsoft UK on BBC news 24 just now watch it when available on BBC iplayer, very interesting.Oct 31 21:50
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schestowitz"no, no, no: If you have money to burn, DO use Gnu Linux — and donate to all your favorite devs. Looks great on the badge! :)" http://twitter.com/#!/ArneBab/status/29312953727Oct 31 21:53
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schestowitzI just drew attention to it, didn't say I agreed with it (which I don't, either)Oct 31 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @Codepope If you are going to [put !Ubuntu on a Mac], install http://bit.ly/c9J4Yj which knows about Linux at boot timeOct 31 21:55
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57255925#notice-57770642 "I wish I was smart enough to use Linux it always seems like so much work"Oct 31 22:01
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schestowitzMint ought to be easyOct 31 22:01
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxmint.com/Oct 31 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Finally reached #NewVegas. http://ur1.ca/28e4oOct 31 22:02
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schestowitzhttp://pookito.status.net/notice/117288 "Thanks for the link and news. It seems that people saying that !linux is dead really don't know what they are talking or writing about. :D"Oct 31 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ouch. Massive banner across the top at #OMGUbuntu advertises Banshee (Mono).Oct 31 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Your job is being a professor and researcher: That's one hell of a good excuse 4 some of the brain-damages of minix" -Torvalds to TanenbaumOct 31 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh: not really, why would multiple shells be diverging from GNOME? there are already multiple shells for GNOMEOct 31 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Parabéns a @dilmabr, presidente eleita do Brasil!Oct 31 22:10
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/government-open-source-momentum-fading/7649 "But when you’re giving an award to your own webmaster, and the site hasn’t been updated to reflect the awards yet, then you’re stretching."Oct 31 22:11
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schestowitzDana the FOSS championOct 31 22:11
schestowitzFriend of Fauxpatents nowOct 31 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Adoption of !GNU !Linux is very high in south America & EU, so why does Blankenhorn connect it to tyranny/communism? http://ur1.ca/28e7bOct 31 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] More in between the film news from the Beeb, Al-Qaeda (don't mention the Saudis) ((usually))Oct 31 22:12
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schestowitzHe treats this one lobby like it's reflective of govt FOSS adoption at largeOct 31 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Congratulations to @dilmabr, Brazilian president electOct 31 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz Blankenhorn FUD(tm) - New and Improved! oh, btw, the seal there is of the Russian "Main Satellite Navigation System" :)Oct 31 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Nothing like a fresh install !Linux system when you are finish configuring all you applications !Fedora !F13Oct 31 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Ok friend, anytime you need, just let me know. ;-)Oct 31 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] http://ur1.ca/28e97 Cyber warfare is hyperbole used to scare and mislead the public to support government control of the InternetOct 31 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Very bizarre headline: "Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Unity replaces Gnome" http://osdir.com/Article10518.phtml replaces !gnome ?Oct 31 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: Cheers mate, nice to know.Oct 31 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: gPXE lets you use PXE on a machine that doesn't have a PXE ROM. #fact #pxe #networkboot http://bit.ly/9vmYdHOct 31 22:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz It is not high in Brazil except among a small geek subculture. I suspect similar elsewhere. But in truth, #Microsoft = #fascismOct 31 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] US Biometric databases in Afghanistan http://ur1.ca/28eaxOct 31 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I must get a jam thermometer.Oct 31 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Acer preps for November tablet launch http://ur1.ca/28ebl while @horaciog & chums reportedly extort Acer w/ #swpatsOct 31 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Old] #Microsoft MVP: Acer To Microsoft: Vista Is The Worst OS Ever http://ur1.ca/28ebqOct 31 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ♻ @lxoliva Congratulations to @dilmabr, Brazilian president electOct 31 22:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Had Microsoft not bullied #Acer why would Acer bother with Windows at all? “That’s extortion and we should call it what it is."-ShuttleworthOct 31 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome to see so many generous contributions to @akgraner and @pwgraner - http://is.gd/gxFzz - go and chip in! #ubuntuOct 31 22:34
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57257104#notice-57772479 "Agree. Everything works out of the box. Even Debian is easy as pie. Safety rules are great for playing it safe."Oct 31 22:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We are soon going to announce the launch of Cult Of Ubuntu, a website dedicated to !Ubuntu Cult." http://ur1.ca/28eej Oh, please, no...Oct 31 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ubuntugamer.com seems like sister site of "omg" and top banner advertises Facebook. You're not a person unless in Mark's "dumb fu*ks" DBOct 31 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What the Pro-MS Office video does not say http://ur1.ca/28ef5 "If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good." --Bill GatesOct 31 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Watch This AD http://ur1.ca/28ef8 Why can't Corel make a Linux version of its softwares ???Oct 31 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon re "3D in reference to graphics card support. :-)" > yes, I know.Oct 31 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Mark Zuckerberg Hacked Into Rival ConnectU In 2004 http://ur1.ca/28ego then called his own users "dumb fuc*s"Oct 31 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay I feel a bit silly since I'm the first one criticising it, but I guess this is what it takes… sent a request for assign forms to @fsfOct 31 22:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is saddening that so few people know the thuggish, unethical roots of #Facebook . Wonders of PR.Oct 31 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz It is saddening that so few people know the thuggish, unethical roots of #Facebook . Wonders of PR.Oct 31 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz How Mark Zuckerberg Hacked Into Rival ConnectU In 2004 http://ur1.ca/28ego then called his own users "dumb fuc*s"Oct 31 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Actually, I wouldn't mind if @fsf replied to my inquiry about re-using their wording for an #AGPL-3 exception so that I could release my sw…Oct 31 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] On last item: In 2004, Mark Zuckerberg Broke Into A Facebook User's Private Email Account http://ur1.ca/02vcg #facebook #zuckerbergOct 31 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz On last item: In 2004, Mark Zuckerberg Broke Into A Facebook User's Private Email Account http://ur1.ca/02vcg #facebook ...Oct 31 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz But, Zucky Dumb fuck embraced who ? Who lies with dogs wakes up with fleas.Oct 31 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The 100 Best Signs At The Rally To Restore Sanity And/Or Fear (BuzzFeed): http://bzfd.it/bnnlJyOct 31 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zuckerberg's actions "upset people, and Mark was soon hauled in front of Harvard's disciplinary board for students" http://ur1.ca/28eix #fbOct 31 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith with Bill "I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating systems" GatesOct 31 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jonobacon: It is going to be a hard sell. People see Canonical going their own way sometimes. Not always part of the community.Oct 31 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Yeah, put Steve B along and we got? The Sopranos ? To think about it...Oct 31 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Finally reached #NewVegas. http://ur1.ca/28ek0Oct 31 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Zuckerberg's actions "upset people, and Mark was soon hauled in front of Harvard's disciplinary board for students" http ...Oct 31 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @satipera: Canonical doesn't really go it's own way, it is the way of what is best for the Ubuntu communityOct 31 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon OK, just so I get this right... You are telling me replacing Gnome's main UI isn't diverging from the main project? OoOct 31 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] GNOME3 window border theme is interesting, rather large title bar, no borders anywhere elseOct 31 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] 15 funny facts about crApple - http://ur1.ca/28el4 - It doesn't mention one not funny fact - more than 15 suicides caused by crAppleOct 31 23:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I am not denying for a second that Unity is stepping away from GNOME's shell direction, for sure, but it is not a fork.Oct 31 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh what's more, I personally don't see anything wrong with lots of Free Software shells. This is why it is awesome we have GNOME/KDE etcOct 31 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh and in any case, if someone doesn't like Unity, they should be able to install another shell easily in Ubuntu - choice is key.Oct 31 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @pookito How trueOct 31 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus! Who made the huge Fedora logo? :D !minecraft !loOct 31 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I didn't say it was a fork, did I? Well, I might've said it once but I clarified that... ;)Oct 31 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Yeah, I don't deny that. It's nonetheless a huge step away from Gnome 3 as it is... For better or worse.Oct 31 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] mine is the w'pedia def - read the first para on http://bit.ly/14vScj "take a legal copy of the source code", Unity is original codeOct 31 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh just checking, pal :-)Oct 31 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rahulsundaram #LibreOffice can pick changes from OOo but #Oracle can't because of their copyright requirements. Win for the former.Oct 31 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I think it is innovation and choice which is good, and the great thing about choice is that if it sucks, use something else :-)Oct 31 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jonobacon: When I am talking about the community I am talking about a much wider field than one distro.Oct 31 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon ;)Oct 31 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon That's exactly what I said on !LO 172. Well, I personally think it's a mistake, but that's me. We will see what happens... :)Oct 31 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Struggling to see what all the fuss about Canonical's Unity shell is about (despite, or maybe because of, seeing what's actually going on)Oct 31 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] UK airport security may be overblown http://ur1.ca/28enxOct 31 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Enjoy that funny US scary thing y'all have going on today....! ;)Oct 31 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ah, Mico$oft... Fazem vídeo malhando o Open Office e escondem a própria sujeira debaixo do tapete. Tsc Tsc Tsc http://ur1.ca/28ef5Oct 31 23:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ah, Micro$oft, makes a video bashing Open Office and hides its own garbage under the rug. Tsc Tsc Tsc http://ur1.ca/28ef5Oct 31 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In 2007, 20% said !Linux was their development operating system. Now, in 2010 almost a third (33%) say Linux." http://ur1.ca/28ep2Oct 31 23:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz "2007, 20% said #Linux their development OS. Now, 2010 almost 1/3 say Linux." http://ur1.ca/28ep2 //it's my main paid dev OSOct 31 23:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "YouTube - Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal uses Unity Desktop by Default! [UDS N Day 1]" from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOeHQ-xrUbMOct 31 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK. The !lo !minecraft server is back up and we're now running the Halloween Update. :)Oct 31 23:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 @BreakingNews: Update: Attack at Iraqi church leaves 30 hostages, 7 police dead - http://nyti.ms/bwG98G / Mission Accomplished.Oct 31 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK.... That seems to work.... !lo !minecraftOct 31 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] But seriously: Who build that huge !Fedora logo on our !Minecraft server and how the hell did you do that? Amazing! :) !LOOct 31 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If they want eternal war, well and good; we accept the issue, and will dispossess them and put our friends in their place." -ShermanOct 31 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @20lb: We have lift off, top secret project "new website" goes live at http://20lb.net/ Download music, sign up, suggest stuff! :)Oct 31 23:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @rahulsundaram: Shell is a sign. part of the GNOME 3 UI. Replacing it with Unity, notify-osd is a big enough deviation be a fork IMOOct 31 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @CodePope yes, turns out Motorola's suit was preemptive, so I was rightOct 31 23:55
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