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| schestowitz | benJIman: why not join the active channel, #techrights ? | Nov 16 11:14 |
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| schestowitz | heh. | Nov 16 14:19 |
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| schestowitz | via Juhn | Nov 16 14:19 |
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| JordiGH | schestowitz: Word on the net is you're an Octave user? | Nov 16 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Nov 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Loving it and asking colleagues to try it | Nov 16 16:56 |
| JordiGH | How'd you like it? The biggest criticisms we often get are (1) not enough Matlab functions (2) no GUI (3) No JIT. | Nov 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Many of them use Windows though, I don't know if it's tricky to install on it (like latex) | Nov 16 16:56 |
| JordiGH | Well, there's a Windows packaging that has been buggy forever because nobody's gotten around to compile a new package. | Nov 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | JordiGH: I missed some bits | Nov 16 16:56 |
| schestowitz | But I can compromise for freedom and control | Nov 16 16:57 |
| JordiGH | If we could get JIT, we could probably also at the same implement a m2c compiler. | Nov 16 16:57 |
| JordiGH | But that's a huge project. | Nov 16 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Performance is not a problem for me yet and just in time either | Nov 16 16:58 |
| JordiGH | I see... | Nov 16 16:59 |
| *JordiGH feels a weird obligation to fix more Octave. | Nov 16 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | I only use it for prototyping anyway | Nov 16 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Need to show feasibility | Nov 16 16:59 |
| schestowitz | In Manchester CS I have hundreds of PCs at disposal at night, via SSH | Nov 16 16:59 |
| JordiGH | Yeah, that's what I use it for too, mostly. | Nov 16 16:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm trying to promote octave | Nov 16 17:00 |
| schestowitz | David dared me in a way... | Nov 16 17:00 |
| JordiGH | Bateman? | Nov 16 17:00 |
| schestowitz | After I had said something negative in an audiocast, without planning toi | Nov 16 17:00 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know about qtoctave, either | Nov 16 17:00 |
| schestowitz | JordiGH: no, a Swedish guy | Nov 16 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Can't recall surname offhand | Nov 16 17:00 |
| JordiGH | Oh, David Grundberg? | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | he mailed me | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | For our students we should use octave | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | it was considered before | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | As an option | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | They can do homework at home this way, too | Nov 16 17:01 |
| schestowitz | No vpn | Nov 16 17:01 |
| JordiGH | I think teaching Matlab to students is pretty insidious. | Nov 16 17:02 |
| JordiGH | Get 'em hooked young. :-( | Nov 16 17:02 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz | But it doesn't have a Microsoft label | Nov 16 17:04 |
| JordiGH | I don't understand. | Nov 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Nor is it Windows only, so people don't see the warning signs | Nov 16 17:04 |
| JordiGH | Ah, I see. | Nov 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Actually, most would ignore the same problem when it comes to Office too | Nov 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz | "It's preparing them to the real world" --ignoramus | Nov 16 17:04 |
| schestowitz | MathWorks bankrolls the BSA | Nov 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz | software patents lobby and all hat | Nov 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz | *that | Nov 16 17:05 |
| JordiGH | Have they sued people? | Nov 16 17:05 |
| JordiGH | Someone in the Octave mailing list suggested that we replace our documentation with links to Matlab documentation. | Nov 16 17:05 |
| JordiGH | I thought that could incur legal trouble, but I don't have an exact example of the Mathworks being a legal bully. | Nov 16 17:06 |
| schestowitz | Neither have I | Nov 16 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Wolfram on the other hand.... | Nov 16 17:08 |
| JordiGH | Oh, yeah, he likes to sue people. | Nov 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | I have examples if you need | Nov 16 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Mathworks tried to hire me | Nov 16 17:14 |
| JordiGH | Wow, how did you refuse? | Nov 16 17:15 |
| JordiGH | I'm interviewing with Facebook on Friday, and I'm really desperate. :-( | Nov 16 17:15 |
| JordiGH | Red Hat said they liked me, but won't commit to an offer. | Nov 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat has an opening I saw earlier... | Nov 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Hold on.. | Nov 16 17:16 |
| JordiGH | It's got tons. | Nov 16 17:16 |
| JordiGH | And they already said they want me. | Nov 16 17:16 |
| JordiGH | They just don't know when. | Nov 16 17:16 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Attention !Fedora community: QA automation engineer position is open at #Red_Hat: http://ur1.ca/2csxy | Nov 16 17:17 |
| TechrightsBot | Title: redhat.com Careers .::. Size~: 23.49 KB | Nov 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | JordiGH: can you join channel #techrights ? | Nov 16 17:55 |
| schestowitz | It's where most of us are | Nov 16 17:56 |
| JordiGH | Okay. | Nov 16 17:56 |
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