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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: read http://www.cliffordchance.com/newsandevents/news/2010/10/clifford_chance_appointsnewleadershipforglobalantitrustgroup.htmlNov 01 00:00
schestowitzNow.....Nov 01 00:00
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Clifford Chance | Clifford Chance appoints new leadership for Global Antitrust Group  .::. Size~: 68.13 KBNov 01 00:00
schestowitzhttp://www.abajournal.com/news/article/law_prof_entire_supreme_court_should_decide_recusal_due_to_activist_wifeNov 01 00:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Law Prof: Entire Supreme Court Should Decide Recusal Due to Activist Wife - News - ABA Journal .::. Size~: 31.43 KBNov 01 00:01
schestowitz"Activist"Nov 01 00:01
schestowitzActivist means rogue sometimesNov 01 00:01
schestowitzoops, wait..Nov 01 00:01
schestowitzWrong first linkNov 01 00:01
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/21/AR2010102106645.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=ARNov 01 00:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Lillian McEwen breaks her 19-year silence about Justice Clarence Thomas .::. Size~: 104.24 KBNov 01 00:01
FurnaceBoysighNov 01 00:02
schestowitzAssange=just an activistNov 01 00:02
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that is very very very very very depressingNov 01 00:02
schestowitzA "Boy"Nov 01 00:02
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: ACTIVISM IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY! AND OUR RIGHT!Nov 01 00:02
schestowitzShe didn't obey JUSTICE ThomasNov 01 00:03
FurnaceBoybe suspicious of anyone who's NOT 'activist'Nov 01 00:03
schestowitz"Support the troops!'Nov 01 00:03
schestowitzEven when they chop people' fingers?Nov 01 00:03
schestowitzFor game?Nov 01 00:03
FurnaceBoysighNov 01 00:04
FurnaceBoyanother lure to centrismNov 01 00:04
FurnaceBoywho would want to be accused of being unpatriotic?Nov 01 00:04
FurnaceBoyit's a trickNov 01 00:04
FurnaceBoysupport the troops means supporting an agenda?Nov 01 00:04
schestowitz"The resonable man adapts himself to the world; the unresonable on persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard ShawNov 01 00:04
FurnaceBoywhen teh system doesn't even 'support' any veteranNov 01 00:04
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: right, and we know this intuitively.Nov 01 00:05
schestowitzYesNov 01 00:05
schestowitzSupport the tr^^^~~BushNov 01 00:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: as if we didn't have 1,000 historical examples!   Gandhi! RMS! Suffragettes!Nov 01 00:05
FurnaceBoyGod, women activists DIED for the vote!!!!!!Nov 01 00:05
schestowitzTroops are a proxy to tyrantsNov 01 00:05
FurnaceBoyof course!Nov 01 00:05
schestowitzBe REASONABLE!Nov 01 00:06
FurnaceBoythe regime does not support troops as PEOPLENov 01 00:06
schestowitzFOdderNov 01 00:06
FurnaceBoyand NO, I will never support the AGENDA the troops are applied to.Nov 01 00:06
schestowitzMake lots of babies..Nov 01 00:06
schestowitzSupport the troops...Nov 01 00:06
FurnaceBoysee, blurring that distinction was very clever.Nov 01 00:06
schestowitzEducate them about their effectNov 01 00:06
schestowitzI explain to people or their relatives what weapons doNov 01 00:06
FurnaceBoyif you DON'T support the TROOPS-AND-IMPLICITLY-THE-AGENDA then you are an enemy. you're with the tewwowists. you're a traitor. an uncitizen.Nov 01 00:07
schestowitzPeople associated weapons with defenseNov 01 00:07
schestowitzAlways afraid of some phantom enemiesNov 01 00:07
schestowitzHitler used the same phantom enemies internally and externallyNov 01 00:07
FurnaceBoyyes.Nov 01 00:09
FurnaceBoytactics are always the sameNov 01 00:09
schestowitzhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/supreme-court-grants-public-interest-protection-for-press-sources/article1768576/Nov 01 00:09
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Supreme Court bolsters protection of media's confidential sources - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 77.96 KBNov 01 00:09
schestowitzWhistle blower==Nov 01 00:09
schestowitz...activistNov 01 00:09
schestowitzDissenterNov 01 00:09
schestowitzNot heroNov 01 00:09
schestowitzThe guy whom you don't wanna employNov 01 00:10
schestowitzObedience=not reporting crimeNov 01 00:10
schestowitzBLowerNov 01 00:10
schestowitzBLowerNov 01 00:10
schestowitzBLowerNov 01 00:10
schestowitzWHISTLE>Nov 01 00:10
schestowitzBLowerNov 01 00:10
schestowitzUnabomberNov 01 00:10
schestowitzBLowerNov 01 00:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: did u see the Glaxo Smith Kline stuff? WhistleblowerNov 01 00:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: won her caseNov 01 00:11
schestowitzAssangeNov 01 00:11
schestowitzUnabomberNov 01 00:11
schestowitzLeakNov 01 00:11
schestowitz"Blood in their hands"Nov 01 00:11
schestowitzRapeNov 01 00:11
FurnaceBoyall liesNov 01 00:11
schestowitzChild molestationNov 01 00:11
schestowitzMixed em all togetherNov 01 00:11
FurnaceBoymeant to erect a big billboard of BUT in front of Assange's truthNov 01 00:11
FurnaceBoyquestion the mediumNov 01 00:12
FurnaceBoyto stop ppl ever engaging with the messageNov 01 00:12
FurnaceBoywhen the FACTS are against you, smear the sourceNov 01 00:12
schestowitzor messengerNov 01 00:12
schestowitz"wilieaks"=rogue site?Nov 01 00:12
FurnaceBoysighNov 01 00:12
schestowitz"wilieaks"=ddos?Nov 01 00:12
FurnaceBoyexactly. i saw that.Nov 01 00:12
schestowitz"wilieaks"=4chan?Nov 01 00:12
schestowitz"wilieaks"=where people thrive which the CIA "should kill"Nov 01 00:13
schestowitz"wikileaks"=enemy combatant?Nov 01 00:13
schestowitzWait..Nov 01 00:13
schestowitzEnemy combatant means personNov 01 00:13
schestowitzNot IP address ;-pNov 01 00:13
schestowitzUS armyNov 01 00:13
schestowitz"We have planed"Nov 01 00:13
schestowitz"15,000 nukes"Nov 01 00:14
schestowitz"We fear a server"Nov 01 00:14
schestowitzIt... SERVES filesNov 01 00:14
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/plashkes/status/29278656734Nov 01 00:14
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schestowitz"bring us back the documents"Nov 01 00:14
schestowitz:-)Nov 01 00:14
schestowitzAnalogue world.Nov 01 00:14
FurnaceBoyskimming WL feed, you see:Nov 01 00:15
FurnaceBoyHe exposed us! reaction, in writing, from establishment is: 1) shoot him 2) lock him up 3) label himNov 01 00:15
FurnaceBoythey don't even hide itNov 01 00:15
FurnaceBoythey come right out and say itNov 01 00:15
FurnaceBoythey're not embarrassedNov 01 00:16
FurnaceBoythat's how low we've gotNov 01 00:16
schestowitzVery, but...Nov 01 00:21
schestowitzWere we not lower in the past?Nov 01 00:21
FurnaceBoynoNov 01 00:22
schestowitzI think we move in good directions in /some/ areasNov 01 00:22
schestowitzNot copyrightNov 01 00:22
FurnaceBoyi think what i find most dispiritingNov 01 00:23
FurnaceBoyis that we aren't even united in a fight AGAINST the worst.Nov 01 00:23
FurnaceBoythe worse it is, the fewer careNov 01 00:23
schestowitzI'm not convincedNov 01 00:26
schestowitzBut the next gen is screwedNov 01 00:26
FurnaceBoyyesNov 01 00:26
schestowitzI just talked about it some days ago...Nov 01 00:26
FurnaceBoythat scares me tooNov 01 00:26
FurnaceBoyyou didNov 01 00:26
schestowitzThey are grown into dyed-in-the-wool consumersNov 01 00:27
schestowitzMore than I ever wasNov 01 00:27
schestowitzIt's utterly sickeningNov 01 00:27
FurnaceBoyyesNov 01 00:27
schestowitzStatus fightNov 01 00:27
FurnaceBoythey are materialistsNov 01 00:27
FurnaceBoyyounger are worstNov 01 00:27
schestowitzWhen I said I spoke about it I mean in the carNov 01 00:27
schestowitzAt least we'll have braandNov 01 00:27
schestowitzAt least we'll have brandsNov 01 00:27
FurnaceBoy"In the 1970s - when hippies were alive and kicking - there was "a generation that valued integrity and the principle of truth." People were concerned about the substance of the leaks, the discovery that the US president had lied to the people.Nov 01 00:28
schestowitzYou can't trust people, you can trust companies :-) :-)Nov 01 00:28
FurnaceBoyright.Nov 01 00:28
FurnaceBoythat's the great change over 50 yrsNov 01 00:28
schestowitzNow we have just few legal thingsNov 01 00:28
schestowitzLike the alcohol drugNov 01 00:29
schestowitzAnd still tobaccoNov 01 00:29
schestowitzAnd they built a drug monopolyNov 01 00:29
schestowitzSo the hippies aren't too happy :-)Nov 01 00:29
schestowitzYesNov 01 00:29
schestowitz?Nov 01 00:29
schestowitzDoesn't matter, FurnaceBoyNov 01 00:30
schestowitzI realise you're multitasking, as do I...Nov 01 00:30
schestowitzBut anyway, to finish my thought:Nov 01 00:31
schestowitzHippies are daemonisedNov 01 00:31
schestowitzAs they should be, they are free thinkers and don't obey guidance from aboveNov 01 00:31
schestowitzAnd unemployed people too (daemonised)Nov 01 00:31
schestowitzServicing kids does not serve a corporation, so that still counts as unemployedNov 01 00:32
schestowitzSame with political bloggers, community leadership, etc.Nov 01 00:32
FurnaceBoyi amNov 01 00:32
FurnaceBoyMoore writes: "Assange's leaks do not inspire marches on Washington or palpable protests of any kind. President Barack Obama, for all his campaign rhetoric of transparency and integrity, hasn't praised Assange as a champion of truth...Nov 01 00:32
schestowitz"why don't you get a *real job*?" (venom: real, as in *real* world, i.e. corporation world)Nov 01 00:32
schestowitzMoney manufactured by private banksNov 01 00:33
FurnaceBoyyesNov 01 00:33
schestowitzDistributed through corps only to those who obey the systemNov 01 00:33
schestowitzEligibility for loansNov 01 00:33
schestowitzPrivate business, not administered by offiicials, except in rare situation (e.g. bailing out press... not blogs)Nov 01 00:33
FurnaceBoyhm. you know that WebP is ~ 1 frame of WebM VP8Nov 01 00:50
FurnaceBoyi've been working with WebP code for past weekNov 01 00:50
schestowitzyesNov 01 01:01
schestowitzBut no audioNov 01 01:02
schestowitzI am trying to get a YouTube channel for the cast which we launch tomorrowNov 01 01:02
FurnaceBoyoh i seeNov 01 01:02
FurnaceBoyso one frame with a very long durationNov 01 01:02
FurnaceBoyinterestingNov 01 01:02
FurnaceBoythey upgraded the tools this weekNov 01 01:02
FurnaceBoy'Aylesbury' releaseNov 01 01:02
schestowitzMentally ill troll busy harassing today:Nov 01 01:06
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/317cf533662e4876#Nov 01 01:06
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schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ff3eb927111ba324#Nov 01 01:07
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 28.27 KBNov 01 01:07
schestowitzTHose sicks stalkers will read this tooNov 01 01:07
schestowitz*sickNov 01 01:07
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/63e97629ccd21425#Nov 01 01:08
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/aa1099778d0a4002#Nov 01 01:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 28.27 KBNov 01 01:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle:   comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 28.27 KBNov 01 01:08
schestowitzQuoting out of contextNov 01 01:08
schestowitz@agentsmith] 15 funny facts about crApple - http://ur1.ca/28el4 - It doesn't mention one not funny fact - more than 15 suicides caused by crAppleNov 01 01:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: 15 Amazing Facts About Apple  .::. Size~: 333.44 KBNov 01 01:16
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: 'more than 15' ?Nov 01 01:31
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: waitNov 01 01:31
FurnaceBoythis isn't about Apple per se. it's about all outsourced tech manufacturingNov 01 01:32
FurnaceBoyeven if apple ceased to exist tomorrow, that would only cut the problem by a few %Nov 01 01:32
FurnaceBoyphrasing it in those terms hides the extent and cause of the problemNov 01 01:33
FurnaceBoyin reality suicides could be in 100,000sNov 01 01:33
FurnaceBoyand deaths even moreNov 01 01:33
FurnaceBoysince the whole chinese manufacturing industry is killing people in several waysNov 01 01:34
FurnaceBoyin any chinese city alone, the air quality kills thousands every yearNov 01 01:34
FurnaceBoygod only knows how many the water killsNov 01 01:34
FurnaceBoyor the contaminated soil and foodNov 01 01:34
schestowitzI kniwNov 01 01:53
schestowitz*knowNov 01 01:53
schestowitzgnNov 01 01:53
schestowitzSee last 3 dentsNov 01 01:55
schestowitzI worry that those who do not obey orders will be pulled out of the gene poolNov 01 01:56
schestowitzBased on financial means, not just ethnicityNov 01 01:56
schestowitzUtopia through population control ('family planning' which Gates is the BIGGEST proponent out there of).Nov 01 01:56
FurnaceBoythat already happens passivelyNov 01 01:56
schestowitzAnd people adore the Melinda and Bill 'parents'Nov 01 01:57
FurnaceBoythe corporate system includes its own justice systemNov 01 01:57
FurnaceBoyif you are ejectedNov 01 01:57
schestowitzThe one with the chiselNov 01 01:57
FurnaceBoyyou are taintedNov 01 01:57
FurnaceBoyyour viability is damagedNov 01 01:57
FurnaceBoyyou may become homeless, sick, beaten, deadNov 01 01:57
schestowitzIn the UK they pay poor people not to get sterilisedNov 01 01:57
schestowitzIt's the startNov 01 01:57
schestowitzNext it'll be expanded beyong drug addictsNov 01 01:57
schestowitzLiek web filtersNov 01 01:57
schestowitzor escalation of 'piracy'Nov 01 01:58
schestowitz[01:57] <FurnaceBoy> you may become homeless, sick, beaten, deadNov 01 01:58
schestowitzTransparent technology improvesNov 01 01:58
schestowitzThey could use some more spares :-)Nov 01 01:58
schestowitzgnNov 01 01:58
FurnaceBoyniteNov 01 01:58
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schestowitzhttp://gigaom.com/2010/10/31/google%e2%80%99s-real-problem-%e2%80%93-gtd/Nov 01 08:15
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Google’s Real Problem – GTD?: Tech News « .::. Size~: 74.86 KBNov 01 08:15
oiaohmschestowitz: has tessier changed anything server side.  I still have not successfully download the first trial run.Nov 01 11:40
oiaohmAnd I am not going to try again without asking thinking it costs about 30 meg each failureNov 01 11:40
schestowitzI told him about itNov 01 11:40
schestowitzHe wasn't quite so sure what it's aboutNov 01 11:41
oiaohmwget failing to resume is not fun.Nov 01 11:41
schestowitzHave you considered streaming the ogg via <audio>?Nov 01 11:41
schestowitzoiaohm: just wget?Nov 01 11:41
schestowitzNext show will be a lot smallerNov 01 11:41
oiaohmfirefox does not resume either.Nov 01 11:41
schestowitzWe move to mono, from stereoNov 01 11:41
oiaohmstreaming was breaking that is why I downloaded.Nov 01 11:42
oiaohmstreaming to cope with break needs resume.Nov 01 11:42
oiaohmYes my home connection is slow.Nov 01 11:43
oiaohmBut its cheep.Nov 01 11:43
schestowitznot sure if the proxy breaks itNov 01 11:43
schestowitzthe RESUMENov 01 11:43
schestowitzTessier is in the main channel nowNov 01 11:43
schestowitzI pasted all you wrote for him to readNov 01 11:44
schestowitzCause I don't know myself how to sort it outNov 01 11:44
oiaohmThat is a normal directory not be servered by a php.  Or at least it looked that way.Nov 01 11:46
oiaohmBecause apache normal nature is allow resume.Nov 01 11:46
oiaohmphp is different.Nov 01 11:46
oiaohmReallly I suspect vanish one of the anti prick rules are being a prick to me.Nov 01 11:50
schestowitz0Nov 01 11:53
schestowitz[10:50:36] Tim Openbytes: right....im back...call coming...there will be a pause for a few seconds.Nov 01 11:53
schestowitz[11:37:13] Tim Openbytes: ill end it shortly leading onto the brandon interview...then give me five minutes and I'll ring back for the closing comment.Nov 01 11:53
schestowitz[11:40:46] Tim Openbytes: back in 5 mins.....then I phone for the closing comments.Nov 01 11:53
schestowitz[11:52:04] Tim Openbytes: Can I just ring back quick....no need to record.Nov 01 11:53
oiaohmI will try something  I think I worked out a little that is going on and its vanish to a point.Nov 01 11:54
oiaohmschestowitz: can you do a test on the ssh shell on the server you end.Nov 01 11:57
oiaohmSimple reallyNov 01 11:57
oiaohmwget -c http://techrights.org/TechBytes/TechBytes0000.ogv and cntrl-c it before it downloads then try it again.Nov 01 11:58
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Not a web page! Aborting video/ogg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 01 11:58
oiaohmIn theory it should start and go on from where it stopped.Nov 01 11:58
oiaohmThat don't work for me where I am on the other side of the vanish.Nov 01 11:58
oiaohmThis will tell us what one is killing us.  appache or vanish.Nov 01 11:58
schestowitzvarnish... let's testNov 01 12:26
schestowitz    The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do.Nov 01 12:27
schestowitzoopsNov 01 12:28
schestowitzIt restarts from 0Nov 01 12:28
schestowitzso yeah...Nov 01 12:28
schestowitzIt won't resumeNov 01 12:28
schestowitzBut if it already has the full files it won't download it againNov 01 12:28
oiaohmSo that was server side.Nov 01 12:50
oiaohmie ssh on server failing direct to appache.Nov 01 12:51
oiaohmI hope server side works schestowitzNov 01 12:51
oiaohmMy problem I am never getting to full.Nov 01 12:51
oiaohmI am getting to about 85 odd percent.Nov 01 12:51
oiaohmNothing more annoying.Nov 01 12:52
schestowitzHmm...Nov 01 12:58
schestowitzShouldn't be a reason, I thinkNov 01 12:58
schestowitzWe might your webm on youtubeNov 01 12:58
schestowitzDid you ask tessier?Nov 01 12:58
schestowitzRight now I edit the next showNov 01 12:58
schestowitzThe first oneNov 01 12:58
oiaohmCurrently no answer from tessierNov 01 13:00
oiaohmServer side to apache yes or no.  schestowitzNov 01 13:00
oiaohmBecause if it apache I have a idea or 2Nov 01 13:00
oiaohmie http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_headers.html#requestheaderNov 01 13:02
TechrightsBot-scTitle: mod_headers - Apache HTTP Server .::. Size~: 23.56 KBNov 01 13:02
oiaohmLoadModule headers_module modules/mod_headers.soNov 01 13:03
oiaohmHeader set Accept-Ranges noneNov 01 13:03
oiaohmRequestHeader unset RangeNov 01 13:03
oiaohmDisables resume.Nov 01 13:03
oiaohmAnd would explain the no resume.Nov 01 13:03
schestowitzhe's probably asleep nowNov 01 13:08
schestowitzAround 2 am thereNov 01 13:08
oiaohmBasically if you ssh inside and get access without proxy and it fails I would say it apache/http server set not to resume.Nov 01 13:12
oiaohmBasically I want to be able to tell him what is to blame.Nov 01 13:12
oiaohmWith what is to blame finding the problem is simpler.Nov 01 13:13
schestowitzI can paste for him what you wrote him when he's awake :-)Nov 01 13:26
schestowitzTBH, there's just this one complaint about downloads and it's from youNov 01 13:26
schestowitzWhich is why we need to get it sorted out, maybe not urgentlyNov 01 13:27
schestowitzWow. Exporting takes an hourNov 01 13:27
oiaohmUnder 30 megs most likely I will not have a issue either.Nov 01 13:27
schestowitzOh shootNov 01 13:28
schestowitzI forgot noise cancellation. Well, I reckon we can try it next timeNov 01 13:28
oiaohmaudacityNov 01 13:28
oiaohmhttp://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Noise_RemovalNov 01 13:29
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Noise Removal - Audacity Wiki .::. Size~: 30.37 KBNov 01 13:29
oiaohmYes for those times you forget.  schestowitzNov 01 13:29
oiaohmAre you lucky this time you did not pick up too much noiseNov 01 13:30
oiaohmJust wondering what are you using for interviews never found out.  I remember suggesting asterisk.Nov 01 13:30
schestowitzIt's weird that I'm having the first headache in agesNov 01 13:55
schestowitzI hope it does not get any more seriousNov 01 13:55
oiaohmStressNov 01 13:55
oiaohmI would suspect.Nov 01 13:56
schestowitzoiaohm: this time we have far less noise in the trackNov 01 13:56
schestowitzIt's also mono, not stereoNov 01 13:56
schestowitzoiaohm: no, not stressNov 01 13:56
schestowitzI thinK I know who infected meNov 01 13:56
oiaohmHave a coco power in hot water.Nov 01 13:56
schestowitzNot yet, maybe laterNov 01 13:56
oiaohmReally before it gets bad the coco works.Nov 01 13:57
schestowitzBut anyway, I'm not stressed. I'd just have to skip the workout and mealsNov 01 13:57
schestowitzoiaohm: why not tea?Nov 01 13:57
oiaohmI find caffee does not help.Nov 01 13:57
oiaohmcoco is a relaxs.Nov 01 13:58
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schestowitzBy coincidence, tomorrow I go to the hospital to do work. I meet some MRI people there... need to come to the unit at 8. By the way, admins there haven't yet returned to me regarding a permanent workstation. The machine I used the last time had personal files of the lady who wrote her work and it felt disrespectful to sit there without her permission.Nov 01 15:11
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: :/Nov 01 15:18
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Codepope/statuses/29356741442 "Er, thats not actually a basis, thats someone else's reporting and your supposition added."Nov 01 16:18
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy:Nov 01 18:56
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schestowitzHuh?Nov 01 18:56
FurnaceBoylolNov 01 18:56
FurnaceBoyi really want a way to disable the listsNov 01 18:56
FurnaceBoyi mean seeing themNov 01 18:56
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57299345#notice-57816077Nov 01 18:57
schestowitz"maybe you can go there and told them to try :: !blag :: http://www.blagblagblag.org :p"Nov 01 18:57
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: same hereNov 01 18:57
schestowitzDescription by proxy so to spakNov 01 18:57
FurnaceBoyyes. i couldn't care lessNov 01 18:57
schestowitzLike ***face putting images tagged with your name on your page whether you accept it or notNov 01 18:57
FurnaceBoyhaha, fuckface?Nov 01 18:58
schestowitzMr. "hot or not"Nov 01 18:58
schestowitzGrabbed images w/o permissionNov 01 18:58
schestowitzMr. ZuckerNov 01 18:58
FurnaceBoyZuckerpunchNov 01 18:58
schestowitzZucker? No thanks, just caffe.Nov 01 18:59
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWuyrlXI7nANov 01 18:59
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: wow, did u see the admission in para 2 of UX Part 3Nov 01 19:41
FurnaceBoy"Mary Jo does not [do real journalism] and that's why she gets interviews at Microsoft"Nov 01 19:41
FurnaceBoywowNov 01 19:41
schestowitzShe sort of admitted this to meNov 01 19:42
schestowitzShe said they only get close to staff if they play alongNov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoy'tricked BobMu into saying things he didn't want to' == real journalismNov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoyotherwise she's a STENOGRAPHER.Nov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoysee: White House Press CorpsNov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoyso there it is.Nov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoyadmitted in black and whiteNov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoyshe gets to interview execs because she just writes down what they say.Nov 01 19:43
FurnaceBoyand does not challenge them.Nov 01 19:44
FurnaceBoyLOL, and also..................Nov 01 19:45
FurnaceBoythey complain that the IE team has caused 'the most trouble..is the main reason the Consent Decree exists'Nov 01 19:45
FurnaceBoyunder a BIG FAT HEADING that saysNov 01 19:45
FurnaceBoy"I for one reject our new HTML5 overlords"Nov 01 19:46
FurnaceBoy== "I for one REJECT ALL STANDARDS"Nov 01 19:46
FurnaceBoyAnd then they have the temerity to wonder why they get into hot legal water.Nov 01 19:46
FurnaceBoywhat a marooonNov 01 19:46
schestowitzI once learned abut US reporters in South America...Nov 01 19:48
schestowitzHow they were escorted only to see what they were supposed to seeNov 01 19:48
schestowitzAnd stick to the "official story"Nov 01 19:48
schestowitzIt's easy to marginalise "lone wolves" like PilgerNov 01 19:48
schestowitzOr make sure their Emmy-winning film is shown just once... at 1amNov 01 19:49
schestowitzMaybe it's "not good for ratings" (also ratings with advertisers)Nov 01 19:49
FurnaceBoyyes.Nov 01 19:49
FurnaceBoyunfortunately the web [wikileaks] is 24/7 -- can't control itNov 01 19:50
FurnaceBoyObama Internet Kill SwitchNov 01 19:50
FurnaceBoywonder what that's for..Nov 01 19:50
schestowitzThe TERROR~1Nov 01 19:50
schestowitzWithout the kill switch, the TERROR~1 winNov 01 19:50
schestowitzSome Republicans classify Assange like a TERROR~1Nov 01 19:51
schestowitzCause he does *something*... which could, even if it just presents raw material, provide  an excuse for TERROR~HNov 01 19:52
schestowitz" @schestowitz That's a total joke. Mary Jo's the best MS reporter in the biz and has been for ages. Dumb, dumb MS employee." http://twitter.com/#!/sjvn/status/29400655911Nov 01 20:15
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schestowitzme @sjvn Mary Jo was excellent when she worked for the same publisher as you did. In ZD she just 'pull a Bott'.Nov 01 20:16
schestowitz"@sjvn s/pull/pulled/. One thing she taught me some years ago is that Microsoft assigns "buddies" to journos to reward/punish them. #pr"Nov 01 20:17
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/11/01/remember-war-in-vietnam-never-happened/Nov 01 20:23
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FurnaceBoyoh boy...........Nov 01 20:25
schestowitzYoung generationNov 01 20:26
schestowitzNot the one carpet-bombedNov 01 20:26
schestowitzThe one after thatNov 01 20:26
schestowitzCorporations give us peace and ... fruit.Nov 01 20:27
schestowitz"@schestowitz Except the case was about texas constitution and retroactivity of legeslation and nothing at all to do with patent law" http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/29404381881Nov 01 20:47
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schestowitzThe context in which I found it was the #swpats group where the needs of the people are seen as > monopolistsNov 01 20:49
schestowitz'First, we recognize that police power draws from the credo that “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” ' http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/29404738608Nov 01 21:04
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MinceRpolice power draws from the social contract, which is bullshitNov 01 21:06
schestowitz"@popey IIRC you started some thread about lack of consulation with the community"Nov 01 21:12
MinceRi find your lack of consultation...disturbing.Nov 01 21:12
MinceR;)Nov 01 21:12
schestowitzHmmm...Nov 01 21:27
schestowitzOn the show I upset someone..Nov 01 21:27
schestowitz"Nov 01 21:27
schestowitzHeard the first (well 1st, not 0th) episode and I have to object to theNov 01 21:27
schestowitznotion that Octave is a stale project.  We have a lot contributors.Nov 01 21:28
schestowitzPlotting is still not on par with matlab, which I agree is holdingNov 01 21:28
schestowitzthings back.  We have few people improving the plotting, but it is slow.Nov 01 21:28
schestowitz"Nov 01 21:28
schestowitzI want to message him back on identica..Nov 01 21:28
schestowitzBut he has no account there. http://se.linkedin.com/pub/david-grundberg/14/41a/4a7Nov 01 21:29
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schestowitz"Does that mean your dents will actually use in_reply_to now? :)" http://twitter.com/#!/phrkonaleash/status/29408814899Nov 01 21:49
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schestowitz"@sjvn thanks for the cite. By the way, I'm still sub'd to your personal blog, not twitter because there's far too much non-FOSS stuff there"Nov 01 22:17
FurnaceBoylolNov 01 22:20
*FurnaceBoy sighsNov 01 22:20
schestowitzYou mate of mathematica infamy has left ...... just when I was starting to think about abolishing matlav... "@schestowitz btw do you know if there's any bioinformatics toolbox for Octave? Thanks!"Nov 01 22:21
schestowitzme: "@debish I do 3-d image analysis mosty, so not sure..."Nov 01 22:21
FurnaceBoyhe'll be backNov 01 22:23
schestowitz"@sjvn it's the pet peeve of mine I told you about before. Some colleagues like Gralla and pro-Windows showing up and reducing signal for me."Nov 01 22:23
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: I hopeNov 01 22:23
schestowitzSee Russian schoolsNov 01 22:23
schestowitzOne can get fired for itNov 01 22:24
schestowitzFor asking to move off proprietary, at least _optionally_ (Office)Nov 01 22:24
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FurnaceBoyQuadrescence: wb // schestowitz look who's hereNov 01 22:26
QuadrescencehiNov 01 22:26
schestowitzHeyNov 01 22:28
schestowitzI was contacted by octave devNov 01 22:28
schestowitzDid you use it?Nov 01 22:28
schestowitzI just need to be able to deal with DICOM in itNov 01 22:28
schestowitzProblem is, octave might not have good 3d visualisation toolsNov 01 22:28
QuadrescenceI am pretty sure Octave just uses gnuplotNov 01 22:29
schestowitzsjvn: "@sjvn it's the pet peeve of mine I told you about before. Some colleagues like Gralla and pro-Windows showing up and reducing signal for me."Nov 01 22:29
schestowitzQuadrescence: yeahNov 01 22:29
schestowitzwhich is rather primitive compared to binary junkNov 01 22:30
schestowitzSo I need to use the junkNov 01 22:30
Quadrescenceschestowitz: What do you mean?Nov 01 22:30
schestowitz"@sjvn it's the pet peeve of mine I told you about before. Some colleagues like Gralla and pro-Windows showing up and reducing signal for me."Nov 01 22:30
schestowitzI think it's not true. He still boosts Windows (gralla)Nov 01 22:31
schestowitz"@schestowitz thanks anyway. I already knew about octave-bioinfo, but it's functionality is quite limited..."Nov 01 22:31
schestowitzQuadrescence: re mathematicaNov 01 22:31
schestowitzYou though of leaving it?Nov 01 22:31
schestowitzmaple and matlab are similarNov 01 22:31
Quadrescenceschestowitz: Sorry, I don't know what you meanNov 01 22:33
Quadrescenceschestowitz: Are you saying gnuplot is primitive compared to mathematica/maple/matlab?Nov 01 22:34
schestowitzfor plotting I think it's lacking in comparisonNov 01 22:35
schestowitzThe octave guy admitted itNov 01 22:35
schestowitzI work with images a lotNov 01 22:35
schestowitzfor just plain stats I could use octaveNov 01 22:35
QuadrescenceActually I'd say gnuplot is rather phenomenal.Nov 01 22:35
FurnaceBoypics or gtfoNov 01 22:36
QuadrescenceAn alternative to gnuplot would be to use Sage: http://i.imgur.com/71Hr3.pngNov 01 22:36
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QuadrescenceP and Q are plots. To plot them together, just do P+QNov 01 22:36
Quadrescence:)Nov 01 22:36
schestowitzNiceNov 01 22:36
schestowitzMaybe it has improvedNov 01 22:36
QuadrescenceI don't think that is gnuplot thoNov 01 22:36
QuadrescenceIn fact, I know it isn'tNov 01 22:36
MinceRgnupowder plotNov 01 22:37
schestowitzgnuspamassassin plotNov 01 22:37
Quadrescencegnuplot is still great: http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo_svg/singulr.htmlNov 01 22:38
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Quadrescencehttp://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo_svg/contours.htmlNov 01 22:39
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Quadrescencestuff in general: http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo_svg/Nov 01 22:39
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Quadrescenceopacity: http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo/transparent_solids.2.pngNov 01 22:40
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QuadrescenceAnyway, the best thing about gnuplot is that it's incredibly fast/lightweight.Nov 01 22:41
QuadrescenceMathematica has a tendency of blowing 2GB of RAM just to get a decent surface plotNov 01 22:41
QuadrescenceMathGL is an incredible open source library for making absolutely spectacular plots: http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/pictures.htmlNov 01 22:42
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Quadrescence*and* you can use it with OctaveNov 01 22:43
FurnaceBoyQuadrescence: that is impressive (the svg stuff)Nov 01 22:53
*FurnaceBoy lieks svgNov 01 22:53
schestowitzabeNd-org: syntax compatible?Nov 01 22:56
schestowitzQuadrescence ^^Nov 01 22:56
schestowitzCould I attempt to run old matlab programs with gnuplot and octave?Nov 01 22:57
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: <SFT have VMLNov 01 22:57
schestowitzSVG scares them cause it ain't THEIRS.Nov 01 22:57
schestowitz*MSFT I meantNov 01 22:57
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: fine , let it scare themNov 01 22:58
Quadrescenceschestowitz: it is mostly compatibleNov 01 22:59
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: they 'joined' this yearNov 01 23:04
schestowitzOnly to keep pushing VMLNov 01 23:04
schestowitzThey need to intervene in the competition tooNov 01 23:04
schestowitzTo bend itNov 01 23:05
schestowitzSee MSODF for exampleNov 01 23:05
FurnaceBoybend -> break.Nov 01 23:05
schestowitzMicrosoft fragmented ODFNov 01 23:05
FurnaceBoyheheNov 01 23:05
FurnaceBoytried w/ javaNov 01 23:05
FurnaceBoy+ htmlNov 01 23:05
schestowitzgot suedNov 01 23:05
schestowitzThey try again nowNov 01 23:05
schestowitzAZune [sic] cloudNov 01 23:05
FurnaceBoyyes, they only have one trickNov 01 23:05
schestowitzInviting Java dvsNov 01 23:05
schestowitz*devsNov 01 23:05

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