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| schestowitz | > I am curious. In biomedical engineering, were you required to study and | Nov 02 06:29 |
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| schestowitz | > learn the functions of all of the organs of the body? | Nov 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz | No, I develop new algorithms and do protoyping. This does not require anatomy. | Nov 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > I ask because you never mentioned anything about your knowledge of the | Nov 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > internals of human body. | Nov 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz | I was never a biologist. :-) | Nov 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > I am curious. In biomedical engineering, were you required to study and | Nov 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > learn the functions of all of the organs of the body? | Nov 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz | No, I develop new algorithms and do protoyping. This does not require anatomy. | Nov 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > I ask because you never mentioned anything about your knowledge of the | Nov 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > internals of human body. | Nov 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz | I was never a biologist. :-) | Nov 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz | Ooops | Nov 02 06:30 |
| oiaohm | Biomedical engineering is more biochemoistiry. | Nov 02 06:47 |
| schestowitz | No, physics and maths | Nov 02 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Statistics inc. | Nov 02 06:52 |
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| schestowitz | Good news, I was given permission to work more from home | Nov 02 12:29 |
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| oiaohm | I was able to download eposide 1 | Nov 02 12:40 |
| oiaohm | I have not retried eposide 0 | Nov 02 12:40 |
| oiaohm | http://geta3d.com/ Its back for another round the blender game engine in browser. | Nov 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/11/02/matlab-to-octave/ "@schestowitz: Check out #qtoctave ☛, gives you a nice GUI for #octave ☛" @matjan installing... :-) | Nov 02 13:47 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: neat | Nov 02 13:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/10/31/sintel/ | Nov 02 13:47 |
| schestowitz | I love this song | Nov 02 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » I Move On (Sintels Song) .::. Size~: 31.14 KB | Nov 02 13:47 |
| schestowitz | Listened to it like 500 times | Nov 02 13:47 |
| schestowitz | ANd I got other people to love and share the film with others | Nov 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz | It would be nice if they got hundreds of millions of views | Nov 02 13:48 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: exceeds my expectations. I tried it 5 years ago. | Nov 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I can use just FOSS, I hope | Nov 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | It's all in the repos | Nov 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz enjoy! #octave ☛ #gnuplot ☛ and #graphviz ☛ where the very stuff of my PhD… not to mention #LaTeX ☛" | Nov 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz don't forget to try out R if you need to do any statistical work" | Nov 02 14:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I don't see it as neat | Nov 02 14:06 |
| schestowitz | got graphviz now | Nov 02 14:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: sintel? | Nov 02 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Each time they have tried a form of DRM with in browser blender | Nov 02 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Or the song/ | Nov 02 14:06 |
| oiaohm | The sintel song find the geta3d.com | Nov 02 14:07 |
| oiaohm | find/fine | Nov 02 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Basically each time there is a in browser from of blender trouble follows. | Nov 02 14:07 |
| oiaohm | By the 4 attempt you would think lessons would be learnt by now. | Nov 02 14:07 |
| schestowitz | ITworld review: !fedora ☛ 14 is leading-edge !linux ☛ http://ur1.ca/28y1r "includes the newest version of the KDE desktop, !KDE ☛ 4.5.2" | Nov 02 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: ITworld review: Fedora 14 is leading-edge Linux | ITworld .::. Size~: 93.6 KB | Nov 02 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Helpful chaps in Twitter.... http://twitter.com/#!/therealpadams/status/29473100146 "within graphviz, dot gives quick results, neato gives prettier results but takes much longer…. it is O(n!)" | Nov 02 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | "A worker in a Venezuelan state-owned petrochemical company was told, "We are going to deduct one day's salary to give to the socialist party." He objected to this and was fired. His article (in Spanish) condemns this arbitrary practice as typical of right-wing regimes and incompatible with the professed ideals of Chavez and his party. " | Nov 02 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Fedora 14 is the first of the meego distributions. | Nov 02 14:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jul-oct.html#31%20October%202010%20%28Hypocrisy%20in%20Venezuela%29 | Nov 02 14:16 |
| oiaohm | Remember I said meego would be different to android and past distrobutions. | Nov 02 14:17 |
| oiaohm | Instead meego will be like a middle ground between distrobutions. | Nov 02 14:17 |
| oiaohm | meego could become what MS has feared. Unified source for applications for Linux. | Nov 02 14:18 |
| oiaohm | I expect to see gnome users rally around fedora 14 | Nov 02 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Some will be insulting to KDE users of fedora | Nov 02 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Thank you ubuntu you just gave fedora a user injection. | Nov 02 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Yup! | Nov 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz | ubuntu should give half its users to fedora, ideally | Nov 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz | better for Linux growth | Nov 02 14:25 |
| oiaohm | I started my KDE addiction on fedora | Nov 02 14:28 |
| oiaohm | to be correct on redhat 9 | Nov 02 14:28 |
| oiaohm | Then grew more on fedora core | Nov 02 14:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i've played a little with graphviz | Nov 02 14:30 |
| schestowitz | i installed it | Nov 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Can't run it from cli though | Nov 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know octave had a good gui for kde, either | Nov 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I have a matlab licence anyway | Nov 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | So I'll try both tonight | Nov 02 14:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe I'll use them in tandem for a while | Nov 02 14:34 |
| oiaohm | The octave one is too simple to find. So simple in fact most miss it exists qtoctave nicely covers all its features http://qtoctave.wordpress.com/what-is-qtoctave/ | Nov 02 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah | Nov 02 14:44 |
| schestowitz | I thought I'd have to be CLI only+kdevelop | Nov 02 14:44 |
| oiaohm | graphviz is a far harder one to find a gui for. | Nov 02 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Since it does so many different things. | Nov 02 14:48 |
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| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: ohai | Nov 02 14:49 |
| Quadrescence | hi | Nov 02 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/11/02/matlab-to-octave/ | Nov 02 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | I got an almost-OK for it. Might use both for a while, see how it goes | Nov 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | I got a CD at the hopital today, need to check performance loading up DICON in octave | Nov 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | *COM | Nov 02 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [fabsh/@fabsh] Still don't get the fact that people think my accent is Indian. What's that all about? Oo | Nov 02 18:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Nov 02 18:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | some people don't get out very much, that's what it's about. | Nov 02 18:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | passport challenged | Nov 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | TRIdentica to #techrights- [fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @JavaGlobalPR: Sorry for the lack of updates, we are preparing lawsuits against Java users to improve our quarter numbers #FreedomCosts | Nov 02 18:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Nov 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if the phrase "people are running away from Ubuntu and back to Linux" will become the norm in a few years? | Nov 02 19:28 |
| gnufreex | Guys, did you see this? http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/29377521138 Monsters are FUDing Java, AND riping it off at the same time. | Nov 02 19:40 |
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| gnufreex | Oracle could sue them for this. | Nov 02 19:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | ugh | Nov 02 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | de Icaza is such a worthless prick | Nov 02 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | makes me want to stop using GNOME | Nov 02 19:45 |
| MinceR | SCOracle won't sue them, they want java to die | Nov 02 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Naa... | Nov 02 19:53 |
| schestowitz | They want to grab as much $$ out if it while they hold it | Nov 02 19:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Nov 02 19:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | larry's a fuckhead but as often gets pointed out, he knows how to make a buck | Nov 02 19:54 |
| MinceR | if that's what they expect from their behavior then they're completely insane | Nov 02 19:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: it's counterintuitive but some of this stupid shit is good for the bottom line | Nov 02 19:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: i have trouble believing it as well | Nov 02 19:54 |
| MinceR | unless "a quick buck" means "some profit now, no profit later, therefore current profit is a lot more than later profit (which is 0)" | Nov 02 19:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | short term thinking is everywhere | Nov 02 19:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | Schwartz had a viable, sustainable open strategy for Sun. | Nov 02 19:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | Larry shot it to pieces, set it on fire, and flushed that down the toilet. | Nov 02 19:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | then he poured nitric acid into the sewer system | Nov 02 19:56 |
| MinceR | this isn't even thinking, it's blindly flailing around, destroying things | Nov 02 19:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | except it's not blind | Nov 02 19:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | i know, to ppl like you and I it looks insane. | Nov 02 19:57 |
| MinceR | or even a conscious campaign to destroy everything of value that has just been bought | Nov 02 19:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | but it's not -- it's a strategy -- just an extremely vicious, shortsighted, and damaging one | Nov 02 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | sure | Nov 02 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | but Larry doesn't see the world like you and I do. | Nov 02 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | different goals. | Nov 02 19:58 |
| MinceR | what is this strategy supposed to result in? | Nov 02 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | see also: Gates | Nov 02 19:58 |
| MinceR | there was some point to what gates did | Nov 02 19:59 |
| MinceR | i see no point to what Law Suit Larry is doing | Nov 02 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | i suppose it's meant to leverage the lockin that exists as hard and fast and long as possible until everything collapses. which is identical to Microsoft 's trajectory | Nov 02 19:59 |
| gnufreex | If Larry means good for Java, he will sue Monsters too. | Nov 02 20:04 |
| gnufreex | So they can pretend they are fine. | Nov 02 20:05 |
| gnufreex | *can't | Nov 02 20:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe he just wanted to frost mysql | Nov 02 20:06 |
| gnufreex | MinceR: I see point in what Larry is doing: Fighting fragmentation in some quriky way. | Nov 02 20:06 |
| schestowitz | It sure isn't heard so much anymor | Nov 02 20:06 |
| MinceR | well, if there's no java, it won't be fragmented | Nov 02 20:06 |
| MinceR | good plan! | Nov 02 20:06 |
| schestowitz | WOrth paying $7bn to ruin #1 rival | Nov 02 20:06 |
| gnufreex | Haha | Nov 02 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Ellison is almost retired | Nov 02 20:07 |
| schestowitz | He'll fragment soon anyway | Nov 02 20:07 |
| gnufreex | Ellison won't retire himself, they will need to fire him. | Nov 02 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | gnufreex: exactly! | Nov 02 20:08 |
| gnufreex | They say nobody has any say in decision making, it is all Larry. | Nov 02 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | gnufreex: i was about to say, expect him to leave soon | Nov 02 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | anyone see the parallel to MS? | Nov 02 20:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | Larry and Gates are peas in an pod. | Nov 02 20:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | a* | Nov 02 20:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | captains who abandon sinking ships. | Nov 02 20:09 |
| gnufreex | Ellison first thought that Gates is unethical and that he will never do such things. | Nov 02 20:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | ha | Nov 02 20:09 |
| gnufreex | There is Youtube video | Nov 02 20:09 |
| gnufreex | But it is ruined | Nov 02 20:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, who knows what he really thinks? people this dishonest will say anything | Nov 02 20:10 |
| gnufreex | No autio | Nov 02 20:10 |
| gnufreex | *audio | Nov 02 20:10 |
| gnufreex | no, seriously, I heard some Oracle employees confirming that he really thought so at that time. 2002 or so. | Nov 02 20:11 |
| gnufreex | It is interesting that Youtube video is broken. | Nov 02 20:11 |
| gnufreex | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssX4RL24HT4 | Nov 02 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Larry Ellison on Microsoft .::. Size~: 120.73 KB | Nov 02 20:12 |
| gnufreex | It is good video | Nov 02 20:12 |
| gnufreex | I mean, "It was a good video" | Nov 02 20:12 |
| gnufreex | Maybe Larry wanted to take back what he said. | Nov 02 20:20 |
| gnufreex | It got broken soon after Sun aquistion closed | Nov 02 20:20 |
| schestowitz | the video? | Nov 02 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I have it as ogg IIRC | Nov 02 20:23 |
| schestowitz | locally stored | Nov 02 20:23 |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: This larry vide? | Nov 02 20:31 |
| gnufreex | o? | Nov 02 20:31 |
| schestowitz | stoopid cats http://tinyogg.com/watch/do3ll/ | Nov 02 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Fatboy Slim - The Joker .::. Size~: 5.22 KB | Nov 02 20:32 |
| Ender2070 | seriously | Nov 02 20:32 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: yeah | Nov 02 20:32 |
| Ender2070 | my site, can anyone get on it | Nov 02 20:32 |
| schestowitz | [root@boycottnovell ~]# ping pwnage.net | Nov 02 20:33 |
| schestowitz | PING pwnage.net (91.195.241.121) 56(84) bytes of data. | Nov 02 20:33 |
| schestowitz | 64 bytes from redirect.domcollect.com (91.195.241.121): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=154 ms | Nov 02 20:33 |
| schestowitz | 64 bytes from redirect.domcollect.com (91.195.241.121): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=154 ms | Nov 02 20:33 |
| schestowitz | 64 bytes from redirect.domcollect.com (91.195.241.121): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=154 ms | Nov 02 20:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | redirects to sedo.com | Nov 02 20:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | domcollect, indeed | Nov 02 20:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | did it expire? | Nov 02 20:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | pwnage.net (PWNAGE.NET) is for sale | Nov 02 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | pwnage.ca | Nov 02 20:35 |
| MinceR | seems to be down | Nov 02 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | the domain side is fine, my email works but its on another server | Nov 02 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | it seems to be my vps | Nov 02 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | I can ping it, it reponds slow | Nov 02 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | I can telnet in and sometimes get an error from apache | Nov 02 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | that takes 5 minutes | Nov 02 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | seems to hang. | Nov 02 20:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | DDos? did yuo piss off 4chan again? | Nov 02 20:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Nov 02 20:37 |
| Ender2070 | I think its DDos | Nov 02 20:38 |
| Ender2070 | I can't even ssh | Nov 02 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | is there any reason to think so? | Nov 02 20:38 |
| Ender2070 | trolls | Nov 02 20:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | did yuo do anything controversial? | Nov 02 20:39 |
| Ender2070 | yes | Nov 02 20:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | hahahahaha | Nov 02 20:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | good work | Nov 02 20:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | what? | Nov 02 20:39 |
| Ender2070 | the vlc censorship article | Nov 02 20:39 |
| Ender2070 | i was also on roys show | Nov 02 20:39 |
| Ender2070 | got that onto lxer | Nov 02 20:40 |
| Ender2070 | www.frozenonline.com works | Nov 02 20:40 |
| MinceR | hm, apparently crApple fanboys can DDoS too | Nov 02 20:40 |
| Ender2070 | I e-mailed my host to let him know that might be the case | Nov 02 20:41 |
| MinceR | who gave them idiotproof tools for that? | Nov 02 20:41 |
| Ender2070 | microsoft | Nov 02 20:41 |
| Ender2070 | visual studio | Nov 02 20:41 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Nov 02 20:41 |
| MinceR | VS is hardly idiotproof | Nov 02 20:42 |
| MinceR | it's idiotic, yes, but not idiotproof | Nov 02 20:42 |
| Ender2070 | it is when its vb.net or c# | Nov 02 20:42 |
| MinceR | .net isn't so easy to use, actually | Nov 02 20:42 |
| Ender2070 | how do you think they code all the bot nets? | Nov 02 20:42 |
| MinceR | it's a shoddy, partial copy of java with documentation that's somewhere between crappy and nonexistent | Nov 02 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | easier than c or c++ | Nov 02 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | plus its guaranteed to be there for vista/7 | Nov 02 20:43 |
| MinceR | perhaps a more advanced drone copy-pastes it together from code he finds on the net? | Nov 02 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | yes | Nov 02 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | copy pasta | Nov 02 20:43 |
| MinceR | or an indian randomly modifies the code until it compiles and works? | Nov 02 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | nah i'd say its teenagers | Nov 02 20:44 |
| MinceR | but there's no .net for OSuX, is there? | Nov 02 20:44 |
| Ender2070 | mono | Nov 02 20:44 |
| MinceR | trying to get .net crap to work there is pure lottery though | Nov 02 20:45 |
| MinceR | isn't it? | Nov 02 20:45 |
| Ender2070 | hardly | Nov 02 20:46 |
| Ender2070 | they package it on their website | Nov 02 20:46 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html | Nov 02 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Download - Mono .::. Size~: 9.55 KB | Nov 02 20:46 |
| MinceR | i mean afaik there are compatibility problems between .net and mono | Nov 02 20:47 |
| MinceR | someone even mentioned a binary incompatibility on one of the TR channels | Nov 02 20:47 |
| Ender2070 | well generally we run into windows botnets anyways | Nov 02 20:50 |
| MinceR | i expected more of a desktop GUI drool-and-DDoS tool here | Nov 02 20:51 |
| schestowitz | DDoS-and-drool? | Nov 02 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Won't/would you not drool /after/ ddos? | Nov 02 20:54 |
| MinceR | they can't hold the drool back that long | Nov 02 20:56 |
| MinceR | then again, maybe it's a web/javascript-based ddos thing | Nov 02 20:56 |
| schestowitz | [root@boycottnovell ~]# ping pwnage.ca | Nov 02 21:04 |
| schestowitz | PING pwnage.ca (38.106.195.169) 56(84) bytes of data. | Nov 02 21:04 |
| Ender2070 | we got it back up | Nov 02 21:06 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Nov 02 21:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | lol | Nov 02 21:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR++ | Nov 02 21:09 |
| Ender2070 | database error | Nov 02 21:09 |
| gnufreex | [21:44:48] <MinceR> someone even mentioned a binary incompatibility on one of the TR channels | Nov 02 21:14 |
| gnufreex | simple, Mono apps work on .NET, but not other way around. | Nov 02 21:14 |
| Ender2070 | there we go | Nov 02 21:14 |
| schestowitz | [21:09] <Ender2070> database error | Nov 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Slowness? | Nov 02 21:15 |
| MinceR | the issue i think i remember was that there was a program which would run on .net but not on mono if you compiled it with vs, and it would run on mono but not on .net if you compiled it with mono | Nov 02 21:15 |
| *schestowitz does post on mono | Nov 02 21:15 | |
| gnufreex | That is a bug then | Nov 02 21:16 |
| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, post does YOU on mono!! | Nov 02 21:16 |
| MinceR | it was something about different interpretation of specs or something | Nov 02 21:16 |
| gnufreex | Mono is subset of .NET and everything that runs on Mono should work on .NET. | Nov 02 21:16 |
| MinceR | in theory. | Nov 02 21:17 |
| gnufreex | And it is by desing, to make people move to Windows. | Nov 02 21:17 |
| Ender2070 | i dont know what was causing the slowness | Nov 02 21:17 |
| Ender2070 | when I rebooted it I had to repair the database | Nov 02 21:17 |
| Ender2070 | it was damaged hours ago, i kept getting that error while everything was slow | Nov 02 21:17 |
| gnufreex | None of .NET apps work on without recompile. | Nov 02 21:17 |
| Ender2070 | it could've been exploited and left damaged | Nov 02 21:17 |
| gnufreex | Even if use only small fraction of .NET, you can't run it on Mono. | Nov 02 21:18 |
| gnufreex | So when Monsters start crap about "Mono is like Wine", they are lying. | Nov 02 21:19 |
| gnufreex | You need to recompile .NET apps to work on Mono. | Nov 02 21:19 |
| gnufreex | If Wine was like that, it would be useless. | Nov 02 21:19 |
| MinceR | oh, now i know what you mean by "Monster" | Nov 02 21:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | gnufreex: or if java was. | Nov 02 21:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | well anybody who hasnt worked out Mono is useless... what hope is there... | Nov 02 21:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | we could sell them land on the moon, maybe. | Nov 02 21:22 |
| Ender2070 | 89.238.130.130 | Nov 02 21:30 |
| Ender2070 | 200.110.169.218 | Nov 02 21:30 |
| Ender2070 | 188.64.57.13 | Nov 02 21:30 |
| Ender2070 | ring any bells? | Nov 02 21:30 |
| gnufreex | No | Nov 02 21:30 |
| Ender2070 | 134.208.10.111 | Nov 02 21:31 |
| Ender2070 | 69.64.38.156 | Nov 02 21:31 |
| Ender2070 | 91.121.141.186 | Nov 02 21:31 |
| Ender2070 | one of them exploited the server | Nov 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | http://remote.12dt.com/rns/ | Nov 02 21:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Reverse DNS Lookup .::. Size~: 5 KB | Nov 02 21:31 |
| gnufreex | Ender2070: Nice show yesterday, but one thing: Fedora + Autoten gets you propriatary goodies. No need for Fusion Linux or making your spins. | Nov 02 21:32 |
| Ender2070 | I just follow the instructions on rpmfusion's site | Nov 02 21:32 |
| Ender2070 | i dont like autoten | Nov 02 21:32 |
| Ender2070 | it installs the adobe repo | Nov 02 21:32 |
| Ender2070 | which likes to force proprietary reader down my throat | Nov 02 21:33 |
| gnufreex | *goodies = crap (propriatary cant be good) | Nov 02 21:33 |
| Ender2070 | i use flash64 from adobe's site too | Nov 02 21:33 |
| MinceR | not only if you choose to install reader? | Nov 02 21:33 |
| Ender2070 | adobe has it configured to ram reader down as a dependency | Nov 02 21:33 |
| MinceR | oh. | Nov 02 21:33 |
| MinceR | with adobe, it's malware all the way | Nov 02 21:33 |
| Ender2070 | so I just add rpmfusion manually | Nov 02 21:34 |
| gnufreex | That didn't happen to me. | Nov 02 21:34 |
| Ender2070 | and install flash64 from adobes site | Nov 02 21:34 |
| MinceR | on winblows, they stuff mcafee malware down your throat | Nov 02 21:34 |
| Ender2070 | i dont use stupid wrappers for 32bit shit | Nov 02 21:34 |
| MinceR | and mozilla assists them with that | Nov 02 21:34 |
| MinceR | adobe needs to fucking die already | Nov 02 21:34 |
| gnufreex | I use Autoten and poppler based PDF reader. | Nov 02 21:34 |
| gnufreex | No conflicts. What am I doing wrong? | Nov 02 21:34 |
| Ender2070 | autoten is also more gnome centric | Nov 02 21:34 |
| Ender2070 | it installs gnome stuff on my kde | Nov 02 21:35 |
| Ender2070 | mind you this was back in F11 days | Nov 02 21:35 |
| gnufreex | Don't know about that. | Nov 02 21:35 |
| gnufreex | I use GNOME> | Nov 02 21:35 |
| gnufreex | . | Nov 02 21:35 |
| Ender2070 | it installed that gnome media player thing on me | Nov 02 21:37 |
| Ender2070 | anyways | Nov 02 21:37 |
| gnufreex | Totem? | Nov 02 21:37 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps | Nov 02 21:37 |
| gnufreex | That one is crappy. | Nov 02 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | yeah it is | Nov 02 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | however personally I have my own scripts and stuff | Nov 02 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | i install fedora a lot | Nov 02 21:38 |
| Ender2070 | I also do @development-tools vlc and some other stuff | Nov 02 21:39 |
| Ender2070 | plus chromium | Nov 02 21:39 |
| Ender2070 | chromium works great with webm | Nov 02 21:39 |
| Ender2070 | no need for firebloat 4.x | Nov 02 21:39 |
| gnufreex | Did you try FF 4.0 ? | Nov 02 21:40 |
| gnufreex | I didn't | Nov 02 21:40 |
| Ender2070 | nope | Nov 02 21:42 |
| Ender2070 | I'm extremely happy with Chromium | Nov 02 21:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: I ditched firefox a while back due to bloat, after using it since 1.0, i guess. | Nov 02 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes try it | Nov 02 21:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | gnufreex: friend on irc was looking for light pdf readers recently (for windows). i think they settled on evince because it was the only thing that would render their test pdf correctly (bitmap transparency) | Nov 02 21:48 |
| gnufreex | FurnaceBoy: For Windwos... Foxit is good. It is non-free but who cares, it is windows anyways. | Nov 02 21:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | he tried that, apparently it didn't pass the test. also the distribution was large | Nov 02 21:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | or, maybe it passed, but 45MB was too much to bother with | Nov 02 21:50 |
| gnufreex | FurnaceBoy: I have no idea what works best on Windows. I didn't install Windows on (any) computer since I quit working in computer shop :-) | Nov 02 21:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. | Nov 02 22:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | very wise | Nov 02 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Windows shop | Nov 02 22:08 |
| schestowitz | The MSBBC teaches me that computer and WIndows are interchangeable though | Nov 02 22:09 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz how is the matlab->octave change?" | Nov 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | I am going to report on that tomorrow | Nov 02 22:10 |
| Ender2070 | I use okular | Nov 02 22:12 |
| Ender2070 | awesome pdf reader | Nov 02 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | windows? :() | Nov 02 22:14 |
| MinceR | i, too use okular | Nov 02 22:14 |
| MinceR | it isn't too bad | Nov 02 22:14 |
| MinceR | seems to be less bug-ridden than the others | Nov 02 22:14 |
| Ender2070 | I love its features | Nov 02 22:14 |
| schestowitz | okular is great | Nov 02 22:23 |
| schestowitz | better than kpdf, can do lots more | Nov 02 22:24 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 02 22:25 |
| Ender2070 | isn't kpdf kde3? | Nov 02 22:26 |
| MinceR | it is | Nov 02 22:27 |
| MinceR | and i'm not sure which one i prefer | Nov 02 22:27 |
| MinceR | for one thing, while kpdf puts the page number in the sidebar, saving space but disappearing if the sidebar is turned off, okular wastes space by putting it on a toolbar of its own | Nov 02 22:28 |
| MinceR | evince puts it on the main toolbar, but it has some very weird quirks sometimes | Nov 02 22:28 |
| Ender2070 | you can turn it off | Nov 02 22:29 |
| Ender2070 | I can't stand kde3 stuff | Nov 02 22:31 |
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| Ender2070 | booo | Nov 02 22:38 |
| Ender2070 | http://fusionlinux.org/2010/11/02/f-spot-0-8-0/ | Nov 02 22:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: F-Spot 0.8.0 in Fedora 14 and in Fusion 14 | Fusion Linux .::. Size~: 26.87 KB | Nov 02 22:38 |
| Ender2070 | its not default in Fedora | Nov 02 22:41 |
| Ender2070 | but | Nov 02 22:41 |
| Ender2070 | Fusion is using it as default | Nov 02 22:41 |
| Ender2070 | another reason I wont recommend Fusion | Nov 02 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Foo-shen | Nov 02 22:44 |
| Ender2070 | I wish he announced that previously | Nov 02 22:45 |
| Ender2070 | I would have mentioned the mono infection | Nov 02 22:45 |
| schestowitz | f* pot | Nov 02 22:46 |
| schestowitz | gn | Nov 02 22:46 |
| schestowitz | "And don't forget, children, never use f*pot" | Nov 02 22:47 |
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