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| schestowitz | [19:51] <_Goblin> right...just getting things ready....I may be ready earlier than 8:30......I'll let you know. | Nov 14 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | [19:51] <schestowitz> ok | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [19:54] <schestowitz> gonna eat | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [19:54] <_Goblin> np. | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [19:55] <_Goblin> ive gotta smoke! | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> close the show | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:29] <schestowitz> no need for me to commnt more | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> something odd happens aroiud minute 47 | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> You'lll hear if you listen that for a period of time it went very quiet | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> That's why I also had to ask you at one point if you were still connected | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> Odd transition in audio like I've never heard before | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <_Goblin> sorry, back... | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <_Goblin> when you asked me if I was still connected it was because Id hit my silence button to cough | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:43] <schestowitz> Ahhhhh.. | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <schestowitz> Makes sense now | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <_Goblin> I don't think I'll use that button again | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <schestowitz> Next time I'll know to carry on as usual | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <schestowitz> Do use iut | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <_Goblin> I wasn't too happy with the intro....I must stop planning as much | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <schestowitz> I know | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> You sounded like you wanted to redo | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> But we never redo really | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> Except once in the intro | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <_Goblin> I would like to redo intro... | Nov 14 00:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> once it's rolling, only technical issue can interreupt | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> That's the rule | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> ANd the defense/excuse for messiness | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <_Goblin> lol... | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:45] <schestowitz> THe intro is OK | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> It's prereocrded | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <schestowitz> We can do a Sunday show too | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:46] <_Goblin> I'll just have my RSS feed to hand I think for that one. | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:47] <schestowitz> Already encoding it | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> Takes 10 minutes to edit and test | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <_Goblin> how long is the show? | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> Then label the file | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> 1;10 | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <_Goblin> not too bad... | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <_Goblin> covered alot I think | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <schestowitz> Could do more. | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] <_Goblin> I think we got more punchier.... | Nov 14 00:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> Tried to keep it short, because you said we should keep focus and density | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> I already have all my apps+windows open from previous audiocasts | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:49] <schestowitz> Makes it faster to batch process | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> Calling (recording) takes longest | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <_Goblin> I think if we are ocasiodaily then its important to keep up to date and punchy.... | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <_Goblin> its a learning thing though....... | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:50] <schestowitz> Yesh, still early | Nov 14 00:09 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <_Goblin> Im setting myself a goal of ep10 to have the format sorted! | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <_Goblin> (in respect of how its introduced) | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> can do 10-20 a month... like practicing football, training the brain to do a certain task and deal with the unexpected | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> Maybe you'll do a career change to radio | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <_Goblin> lol... | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:51] <schestowitz> Shelly would be happy I think | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <_Goblin> I think I would too! | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> [root@boycottnovell ~]# grep .ogg /var/log/httpd/boycottnovell.com-access_log | wc | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> 9299 205912 2328198 | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> +mp3s | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> So over 10,000 since Sunday | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <_Goblin> :) | Nov 14 00:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <_Goblin> I would like to do a tutorial show at some point..... | Nov 14 00:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: learn to use -c :) | Nov 14 00:13 |
| schestowitz | instead of wc? | Nov 14 00:34 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> That's why I'm so keen on making more | Nov 14 00:34 |
| schestowitz | [22:52] <schestowitz> I also get emails | Nov 14 00:34 |
| schestowitz | [22:53] <schestowitz> and it's a big lump per listeners... lots of air time | Nov 14 00:34 |
| schestowitz | [22:53] <_Goblin> thats why I would like some confrontational interviews.... | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [22:54] <_Goblin> it also makes it unpredictable...which is a hook for every show.... | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <schestowitz> yeah | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <_Goblin> I noticed you really opened up on that show too.....you laughed.....great stuff! | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:03] <schestowitz> I can't recall.. but I didn't sound good in general... not a good day for me | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:04] <schestowitz> I need to improve as we do more | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:04] <_Goblin> I thought it was...you laughed when we talked about Windows not being suitable for the desktop | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:05] <_Goblin> I think next time you do an audio interview, you are going to have a hell of an impact.... | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:05] <_Goblin> you are too hard on yourself... | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:06] <schestowitz> it's not a bad thing | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:06] <_Goblin> maybe not...but your passion for your topics is coming out more every ep......thats what Ive noticed. | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:06] <schestowitz> [I know on person who laughs frantically and pops cans of beer on the show] | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:07] <_Goblin> youve gone from stating an opinion to expressing an opinion... | Nov 14 00:35 |
| schestowitz | [23:07] <_Goblin> big difference. | Nov 14 00:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Nov 14 00:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | $ grep -c Rela ../libvpx/vpx.vcproj | Nov 14 00:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | 228 | Nov 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz | ahh... | Nov 14 00:53 |
| schestowitz | [23:07] <schestowitz> http://twitter.com/SecretCombos/statuses/3519881316143104 | Nov 14 00:54 |
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| schestowitz | [23:09] <_Goblin> if you notice the tweets echo'd in techrights channel, it seems on the whole that our show is more current than peoples dents/tweets! | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> Oh | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <_Goblin> Thats my show notes complete....just waiting on the finished files. | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> New mail | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> Subject: Thank you for posting my WIkiLeaks article and something else that may interest you | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> Dear Dr. Roy Shestowitz, | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> I am writing for two reasons. | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> First, to express my gratitude to you for posting the link to my recent article, "WikiLeaks Ban or Global Secrecy Order?" (published by Consortium News). | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> Second, I thought I might be able to interest you in a problem which has been preoccupying me for many years now, a problem which relates directly to the discipline in which you earned your Phd. | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> Last winter I set out the problem in remarks I made on the campus of the University of Pennsylvania. A transcript of what I said, which was very brief, can be read on my website at http://www.dhkerby.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/legacy.pdf. | Nov 14 00:54 |
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| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> I wonder whether you might read these brief remarks and let me know what comes to mind. | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <schestowitz> Best regards, | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <_Goblin> ! | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <_Goblin> nice! | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <schestowitz> =====+ | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <schestowitz> yes, the show is current | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <schestowitz> We used links collected hours before the show | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <schestowitz> the show is published within hours | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <schestowitz> That's why I'll get it out tonight | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:14] <schestowitz> Last night I nearly 'passed out' while it was still encoding | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <schestowitz> Couldn't keep it, so finished in the morning] | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <_Goblin> You never know....we could end up the Ant and Dec of FOSS!!!!!! (said in jest of course) | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <schestowitz> Who will be Ant? | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <schestowitz> :-p | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:15] <_Goblin> not sure....I may retract that comment.... | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:16] <_Goblin> couldnt think of any other TV pairing....except Jedwad.... | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:16] <schestowitz> they're like Pinky and Pinkyl | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:16] <schestowitz> /l | Nov 14 00:54 |
| schestowitz | [23:16] <_Goblin> I think Agentsmith is trying to call me. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> Hi Roy, | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> I'm just your average Joe Blow Who switched from Windows to Linux a couple of years ago, mainly because it was free so I thought why not try it. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> Since then though, after a lot of reading I've come to understand a lot more about the background issues. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> I like to listen to Windows Weekly just for the crap that comes out of Paul Thurrott's mouth. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> He is sounding increasingly desperate in his promotion of Windows phone 7(last few episodes devoted entirely to windows phone). | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> This quote from the latest episode #182 @ 32:50 for example. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> "wild west....I mean, crazy IP violation world of Android" | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> I don't think they realize how informed the average computer user is these days due to sites like yours. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> Keep up the great work @ techrights.org | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> Great read. | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:17] <schestowitz> Thanks,Glen Shrubsall | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:18] <schestowitz> ......Oh, this is cooll.... | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <schestowitz> The guy who sent me that last message... | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <schestowitz> He messaged my account that bounced back with message asking to join identica to contact me | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <schestowitz> And he joined | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <schestowitz> Then added me as friend | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <_Goblin> :) | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <schestowitz> See? I grow identica | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <schestowitz> http://identi.ca/dhkerby | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:20] <_Goblin> :) | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:20] <_Goblin> excellent | Nov 14 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | [23:24] <schestowitz> almost done encoding, soon uploadinhg | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz |  | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:24] <_Goblin> :) | Nov 14 00:55 |
| schestowitz | [23:32] <schestowitz> ffmpeg -i ~/TechBytes/3/techbytes0003.ogg ~/TechBytes/2/techbytes0003.mp3 | Nov 14 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: "@verofakto not sure why you posted a pic of #boycottboy in reply to @directex" --de Icaza. http://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/statuses/3562256566591488 | Nov 14 06:01 |
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| schestowitz | His feed that I track is so unprofessional | Nov 14 06:02 |
| schestowitz | I had to check the reference | Nov 14 06:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | ... | Nov 14 06:02 |
| schestowitz | This is what he talked about: http://i.imgur.com/oigqb.png | Nov 14 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | Bunch of kids | Nov 14 06:02 |
| schestowitz | For a Novell VP... | Nov 14 06:02 |
| schestowitz | Comparing me to this | Nov 14 06:03 |
| oiaohm | LibreOffice isin debian expermintel branch. schestowitz | Nov 14 06:05 |
| oiaohm | So first step to be part of debian has started. | Nov 14 06:06 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/2874828516229120 | Nov 14 06:17 |
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| Quadrescence | schestowitz: how do u pronounce ur name | Nov 14 14:22 |
| Quadrescence | "shest-AW-vitch"? | Nov 14 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Just had another person send me translation of my articles from South America | Nov 14 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: shes-toe-witz | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > Doctor Roy, | Nov 14 14:25 |
| Quadrescence | really? a W-sound? | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > Here it goes the Chronology of MS attacks against GNU/Linux in Spanish. | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > Please email me any future updates so I can update myself the Spanish | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > version. | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > The text version has the hyperlinks between square brackets, so | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > sometimes it's hard to read when you put them on a web page. I'm also | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > sending it to you as an ODT && PDF so readers can download them. | Nov 14 14:25 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 14 14:25 |
| Quadrescence | interesting | Nov 14 14:25 |
| Quadrescence | then it is how I thought it was pronounced before I tried to be "intelligent" sounding | Nov 14 14:26 |
| schestowitz | I can't do pronunciations either | Nov 14 14:28 |
| schestowitz | And on the Internet you never hear things, just read stuff | Nov 14 14:28 |
| schestowitz | And can't remembr spelling, either | Nov 14 14:28 |
| Quadrescence | also, can I see the PDF of that quote you just said? | Nov 14 14:28 |
| schestowitz | I just copy and paste names to avoid mistakes | Nov 14 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Just sent an inquiry from us to Professor Leon Axel, http://www.med.nyu.edu/biosketch/axell01 | Nov 14 14:28 |
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| oiaohm | At least its not like one of my releations. | Nov 14 14:28 |
| schestowitz | He will hopefully send us some data | Nov 14 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Spent too much time trying to find some | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: which PDF? | Nov 14 14:29 |
| Quadrescence | [08:24.05] <schestowitz> > sometimes it's hard to read when you put them on a web page. I'm also | Nov 14 14:29 |
| Quadrescence | [08:24.07] <schestowitz> > sending it to you as an ODT && PDF so readers can download them. | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna post it to techrights in a moment | Nov 14 14:29 |
| Quadrescence | ah ok | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | You'll see | Nov 14 14:29 |
| oiaohm | gatkins one of the 54 known spellings of there last name. | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | I found that doc he looked for too.. | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | I will look... | Nov 14 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Ah! Found it. http://techrights.org/2010/02/04/microsoft-perspective/ | Nov 14 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 14:30 |
| oiaohm | Really you can do odf pdf hybred. | Nov 14 14:30 |
| oiaohm | then see who knows how to use openoffice. | Nov 14 14:30 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: I can ask my girlfriend, who is a translator for medical patients, to see if she could get some medical data that you might need. | Nov 14 14:30 |
| schestowitz | That's OK, no need | Nov 14 14:31 |
| schestowitz | We also looks for specific type | Nov 14 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Where you 'inject' a load of magnetism with gaps to get tagging | Nov 14 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Like anatomical grid | Nov 14 14:31 |
| Quadrescence | Ah | Nov 14 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I ask the guy who invented it | Nov 14 14:31 |
| schestowitz | My colleague knows him | Nov 14 14:31 |
| schestowitz | > A few months ago there use to be the brief history of computing. I can't | Nov 14 14:40 |
| schestowitz | > find it. Did you put the page down. Please email me the link. Thanks | Nov 14 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hero who guessed Sarah Palin's email password and exposed her for the criminal she is put in jail for a year http://ur1.ca/2c3iu | Nov 14 16:16 |
| schestowitz | heh | Nov 14 16:16 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz "Posted in Deception, Microsoft, Security, Windows at 3:48 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz" -> Wow! Do you ever sleep? like ur work!" | Nov 14 16:29 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 14 16:29 |
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| schestowitz | Netflix: "Microsoft-oriented? I didn't know Microsoft owned Sony and Nintendo..." they have Silver Lie and former MSFT staff/execs | Nov 14 17:48 |
| schestowitz | "I like this meme -- there should be a !-group for it. !aftertherevolution, maybe?" "Microsoft-oriented? I didn't know Microsoft owned Sony and Nintendo..." they have Silver Lie and former MSFT staff/execs | Nov 14 17:48 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/58605575 | Nov 14 17:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://micro.edythemighty.com/notice/142606 "believe it or not, that's a good streaming platform. Also, that still doesn't address the fact that they've targeted non-MS platforms before. Face it, they're a company. They'll target the platforms with most users willing to pay for their service, and work their way down to everyone else." | Nov 14 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | Netflix ^^ | Nov 14 17:58 |
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| schestowitz | Ever Wondered WTF Gnome vs Ubuntu? http://ur.ly/uBET !ubuntu ☛ !gnome ☛ #unity ☛ | Nov 14 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/03/windows-7-battery-issues-confirmed/ | Nov 14 20:53 |
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| Quadrescence | schestowitz: where is a photo of you | Nov 14 21:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: try http://techrights.org | Nov 14 21:37 |
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| Quadrescence | FurnaceBoy: trying | Nov 14 21:38 |
| Quadrescence | FurnaceBoy: what is FUD? | Nov 14 21:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. it's a rhetorical tactic... | Nov 14 21:39 |
| Quadrescence | fear, uncertainty and doubt | Nov 14 21:39 |
| Quadrescence | can you give me an example? | Nov 14 21:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | sure. Microsoft's constant insinuation that linux uses 'our patents'. | Nov 14 21:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | there's no fact to back it up | Nov 14 21:40 |
| Quadrescence | and how does this cause FUD | Nov 14 21:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | but saying it is immensely valuable in terms of the fear, uncertainty and doubt it creates in the market. | Nov 14 21:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | every time a major publication (and they all do) print these unsubstantiated claims, it earns MS millions in free PR | Nov 14 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | you see? | Nov 14 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's the tactic. | Nov 14 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's used everywhere | Nov 14 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | not just in technology | Nov 14 21:41 |
| Quadrescence | does it just create a sensation that Linux, in this case, is illegitimate? | Nov 14 21:41 |
| Quadrescence | that it is just a blatant copy | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | in the minds of businesses, yes. | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's a talking point. | Nov 14 21:42 |
| Quadrescence | okay | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | "We might get sued if we use Linux." | Nov 14 21:42 |
| Quadrescence | show me a "fear" example | Nov 14 21:42 |
| Quadrescence | there you go | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's the perception MS is deliberaetly trying to create. | Nov 14 21:42 |
| Quadrescence | i see | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | and they can do it for free | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | because nearly the entire tech media uncritically prints what they say. | Nov 14 21:42 |
| Quadrescence | I want to add Wolfram Research to the techrights list | Nov 14 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | w00t! good idea! | Nov 14 21:43 |
| Quadrescence | FurnaceBoy: I'm not quite sure where I should add it | Nov 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Add it to the wiki | Nov 14 21:50 |
| Quadrescence | and I don't have time to write a lot right now | Nov 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz | You can create an account and add pages | Nov 14 21:50 |
| Quadrescence | I made an account | Nov 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Even if similar to something you also blog about | Nov 14 21:50 |
| Quadrescence | I don't want to just add an orphan page, I want to at least plant a seed | Nov 14 21:51 |
| Quadrescence | aka have it visible somewhere | Nov 14 21:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=site%3Atechrights.org+Wolfram | Nov 14 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | Quadrescence: add to http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Companies_That_Harm_Software_Freedom | Nov 14 21:52 |
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| Quadrescence | oh good | Nov 14 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Not just companies... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ISO | Nov 14 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I keep hearing scilab is good | Nov 14 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I might get it from the repos now.. | Nov 14 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Curious... | Nov 14 21:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Details: | Nov 14 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Scilab is a matrix-based scientific software package. Scilab contains hundreds of built-in mathematical functions, rich data structures (including polynomials, rationals,linear systems, lists, etc...) and comes with a number of specific toolboxes for control, signal processing, ... | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | This package contains the include files for Scilab (used in the dynamic link). | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Home Page: | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.scilab.org | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Licence: | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | free | Nov 14 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | From kpackagekit | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | It's in the repos | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Have you tried it? | Nov 14 21:55 |
| Quadrescence | I haven't used Scilab, no. | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | My colleague did... and told me about it today | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | is octraVE BETTER? | Nov 14 21:55 |
| Quadrescence | I think octave is probably more popular/compatible with matlab | Nov 14 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I mean, does scilab have a gui like qtoctave? | Nov 14 21:55 |
| Quadrescence | I think it does, but I think it is much more primitive | Nov 14 21:57 |
| Quadrescence | you get a very basic editing window for code, and you can have a console window, plot window, and help browser | Nov 14 21:57 |
| Quadrescence | so really it's just a frontend to the commandline, without much more | Nov 14 21:57 |
| schestowitz | ah | Nov 14 21:58 |
| schestowitz | So maybe octave leapfrogged | Nov 14 21:58 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: I do recommend wxmaxima though for symbolic computations | Nov 14 21:59 |
| Quadrescence | wxmaxima (which is a very good GUI frontend to maxima) | Nov 14 21:59 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: is wxmaxima in your repos? | Nov 14 22:00 |
| schestowitz | I heard of it | Nov 14 22:03 |
| schestowitz | But not sure what it's for | Nov 14 22:03 |
| schestowitz | If you say scilab is not as good, I'll leave it aside for now | Nov 14 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Unless I miss something in octave | Nov 14 22:04 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: check the repos for wxmaxima | Nov 14 22:18 |
| Quadrescence | :) | Nov 14 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Is it of any use to me? | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I don't know what it's about but you say it's "for symbolic computations" | Nov 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Not sure what it means exactly | Nov 14 22:25 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: It can solve equations symbolically, as opposed to numerically | Nov 14 22:30 |
| Quadrescence | If you do any work that involves any kind of math, it can be useful to you | Nov 14 22:30 |
| Quadrescence | It can also do numerical computations | Nov 14 22:30 |
| Quadrescence | (but it NOT a replacement for octave) | Nov 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | I don't do this ATM | Nov 14 22:31 |
| Quadrescence | You don't solve linear equations? | Nov 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz | I manipulate images | Nov 14 22:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | vijulisation | Nov 14 22:31 |
| *FurnaceBoy needs a coffee | Nov 14 22:32 | |
| *FurnaceBoy whaps Quadrescence with a cold, damp teabag | Nov 14 22:32 | |
| schestowitz | heh | Nov 14 22:34 |
| *schestowitz drinks cold coffee sometimes | Nov 14 22:35 | |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: http://i.imgur.com/Db3Az.png | Nov 14 22:35 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ooh pretty | Nov 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/144411/index.html | Nov 14 22:45 |
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| FurnaceBoy | "Such as it is, however, the press has become the greatest power within the Western countries, more powerful than the legislature, the executive and the judiciary. One would then like to ask: by what law has it been elected and to whom is it responsible? In the communist East a journalist is frankly appointed as a state official. But who has granted Western journalists their power, for | Nov 14 22:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | how long a time and with what prerogatives? | Nov 14 22:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | There is yet another surprise for someone coming from the East where the press is rigorously unified: one gradually discovers a common trend of preferences within the Western press as a whole. It is a fashion; there are generally accepted patterns of judgment and there may be common corporate interests, the sum effect being not competition but unification. Enormous freedom exists for the | Nov 14 22:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | press, but not for the readership because newspapers mostly give enough stress and emphasis to those opinions which do not too openly contradict their own and the general trend. | Nov 14 22:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: bet you can't guess who wrote this. | Nov 14 22:48 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: http://i.imgur.com/hQAfc.png | Nov 14 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | Wow, very nice | Nov 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: bloggers too | Nov 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Did Glen write it? | Nov 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz | [Well, bloggers *are* just press under another name.... when you throw the semantics away it's all virtually the same] | Nov 14 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: thanks for adding " | Nov 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz | # | Nov 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz | # Wolfram Research (flagship product Mathematica) | Nov 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 14 22:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Alexandr Solzhenitsyn wrote it. It was a speech given to Harvard in 1978. | Nov 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz | You can put a link to your blog there too, preferably with some intro and more links | Nov 14 22:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but I have an even better quote... | Nov 14 22:57 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandr_Solzhenitsyn | Nov 14 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | "Died 3 August 2008(2008-08-03) (aged 89)" | Nov 14 22:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes, I know. :) | Nov 14 22:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I read his Gulag Archipelago when I was about 16. | Nov 14 22:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and a lot else of his since | Nov 14 22:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Journalism is one of the devices whereby industrial autocracy keeps its control over political democracy; it is the day-by-day, between-elections propaganda, whereby the minds of the people are kept in a state of acquiescence, so that when the crisis of an election comes, they go to the polls and cast their ballots for either one of the two candidates of their exploiters. | Nov 14 22:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | somebody else. guess the year? | Nov 14 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I know who it does *not* sound like | Nov 14 23:00 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: these are silly questions | Nov 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless asked as teasters | Nov 14 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sorry :) | Nov 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless asked as teasers | Nov 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz | I could also put them in the Big G | Nov 14 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | Upton Sinclair, 1919. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Upton_Sinclair | Nov 14 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | And it'll yield an answer :-) | Nov 14 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' The methods by which the "Empire of Business" maintains its control over journalism are four: First, ownership of the papers; second, ownership of the owners; third, advertising subsidies; and fourth, direct bribery. By these methods there exists in America a control of news and of current comment more absolute than any monopoly in any other industry. | Nov 14 23:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | (1919) | Nov 14 23:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | he must laugh at us struggling with the same stranglehold 90 years later. | Nov 14 23:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' The supreme crime of the church to-day is that everywhere and in all its operations and influences it is on the side of sloth of mind; that it banishes brains, it sanctifies stupidity, it canonizes incompetence. | Nov 14 23:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' The first thing brought forth by the study of any religion, ancient or modern, is that it is based upon Fear, born of it, fed by it — and that it cultivates the source from which its nourishment is derived. | Nov 14 23:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | but this one is very poignant: | Nov 14 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to "End Poverty in California" I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front | Nov 14 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | attack, it is much better to out-flank them. | Nov 14 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | --- | Nov 14 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | could be Techrights slogan: | Nov 14 23:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' I intend to do what little one man can do to awaken the public conscience, and in the meantime I am not frightened by your menaces. | Nov 14 23:06 |
| schestowitz | attrib? | Nov 14 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I will dent it | Nov 14 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | All from Upton Sinclair. | Nov 14 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | all cited on that wiki page | Nov 14 23:06 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Nov 14 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'll stop flooding now. i have a problem to solve :X | Nov 14 23:07 |
| schestowitz | it's interesting though | Nov 14 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, one more from Solzhenitsyn (1978): | Nov 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | ANd good to have in logs | Nov 14 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | ' Legally your researchers are free, but they are conditioned by the fashion of the day. There is no open violence such as in the East; however, a selection dictated by fashion and the need to match mass standards frequently prevent independent-minded people from giving their contribution to public life. There is a dangerous tendency to form a herd, shutting off successful development. I | Nov 14 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | have received letters in America from highly intelligent persons, maybe a teacher in a faraway small college who could do much for the renewal and salvation of his country, but his country cannot hear him because the media are not interested in him. This gives birth to strong mass prejudices, blindness, which is most dangerous in our dynamic era. There is, for instance, a self-deluding | Nov 14 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | interpretation of the contemporary world situation. It works as a sort of petrified armor around people's minds. Human voices from 17 countries of Eastern Europe and Eastern Asia cannot pierce it. It will only be broken by the pitiless crowbar of events. | Nov 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Some trolls read this channel later | Nov 14 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ | Nov 14 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ that's perfectly prophetic, from Solzhenitsyn. | Nov 14 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | I have had the same gloomy realisation about hte USA. | Nov 14 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | many times. | Nov 14 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Not just the US | Nov 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz | The US is an amplified example of many others who followed the same model | Nov 14 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Some got carpet-bombed for not behaving the "right" way | Nov 14 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Others just did the same debt-based economy cause "they started it" | Nov 14 23:12 |
| schestowitz | news:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/07/nationalist-thugs-attack-russian-journalist | Nov 14 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | doesn't happen much in the US | Nov 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Or Canada | Nov 14 23:14 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: I added a little to http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Wolfram_Research and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mathematica | Nov 14 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | So you're still FAR better off than China.. free speech too | Nov 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: you can curse Canada in public | Nov 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | A privilege you may take for granted | Nov 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: that's so excellent!! | Nov 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | I'll link to it... | Nov 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: can I add "* [http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ GNU Octave] and [cref http://qtoctave.wordpress.com/ QtOctave] (front end)"? | Nov 14 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Or are you editing at the moment? | Nov 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-sep-dec.html#09%20November%202010%20%28Old%20factions%20with%20a%20twist%29 "The "Tea Party" is a combination of all the old US right-wing factions, with a PR image fashioned by corporate sponsorship and Faux News. " | Nov 14 23:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | Quadrescence: nice | Nov 14 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the point isn't that other countries are further down this rabbit hole... | Nov 14 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: we who read history books and 'foreign' media know this | Nov 14 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the mass consensus is almost perfectly ignorant | Nov 14 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: of necessity | Nov 14 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: to the entrenched powers... | Nov 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz | yup, well said and put | Nov 14 23:27 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: yes of course | Nov 14 23:32 |
| Quadrescence | im not editing | Nov 14 23:32 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz and FurnaceBoy: https://twitter.com/quadricode/statuses/3953015039983617 | Nov 14 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | Quadrescence: I added a line | Nov 14 23:33 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: cool :) | Nov 14 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Watch the pageviews go up (cached though) | Nov 14 23:38 |
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