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| schestowitz | http://www.p2pnet.net/story/45876 This is scary! I'll do a post about it. | Nov 19 06:59 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: have a glass of water. It's homoeopathic urine. | Nov 19 07:18 |
| MinceR | ew | Nov 19 07:31 |
| schestowitz | don't worry | Nov 19 07:38 |
| schestowitz | It's high dilution, unlikely to contain more molecules of bad stuff than normal water | Nov 19 07:39 |
| schestowitz | I was just reminded of this because of some chiro Web site | Nov 19 07:39 |
| MinceR | i still prefer normal water | Nov 19 07:40 |
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| schestowitz | It's hard to find people who have never heard of Linux. It's increasingly hard to find people who don't know Android or Ubuntu. !linux ☛ | Nov 19 10:49 |
| oiaohm | You don't look far. sh | Nov 19 10:54 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: | Nov 19 10:55 |
| oiaohm | I can still find people who don't know what Linux android or ubuntu are. | Nov 19 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Heck I even know some people who don't know how to turn a computer on. | Nov 19 10:55 |
| oiaohm | let alone worrying about OS. | Nov 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz | ok, but let's say within a college/university | Nov 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Not a parents' home | Nov 19 10:57 |
| oiaohm | Try arts. schestowitz | Nov 19 10:57 |
| MinceR | http://www.physikblog.eu/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/hadroncollider.jpg | Nov 19 10:58 |
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| oiaohm | Put it this way I have it down to a fairly fine art to find the people who don't know about computers even at uni's. | Nov 19 10:58 |
| schestowitz | True | Nov 19 11:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: dented | Nov 19 11:10 |
| schestowitz | I hadn't realise how popular gina was on twitter since the site recommended I follow her http://twitter.com/#!/ginatrapani | Nov 19 12:08 |
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| Quadrescence | schestowitz: http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/18/another-tsa-outrage/ | Nov 19 12:08 |
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| Quadrescence | that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen | Nov 19 12:09 |
| schestowitz | I'm denting/tweeting it... | Nov 19 12:10 |
| Quadrescence | read it, it isn't about backscatter or groping | Nov 19 12:12 |
| Quadrescence | this one is about them being incredibly STUPID | Nov 19 12:12 |
| Quadrescence | to summarize, soldiers are carrying RIFLES and PISTOLS (unloaded), but the TSA requires that NAIL CLIPPERS are confiscated because they can be used as a weapon | Nov 19 12:12 |
| Quadrescence | but since they guns are not loaded they do not pose any threat | Nov 19 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: see my tweet about it | Nov 19 12:14 |
| Quadrescence | no tweet for me yet | Nov 19 12:19 |
| Quadrescence | (via Gwibber) | Nov 19 12:19 |
| Quadrescence | oh | Nov 19 12:19 |
| Quadrescence | nvm I see it. | Nov 19 12:19 |
| Quadrescence | hahahahah | Nov 19 12:19 |
| MinceR | ph33r mah nail-clipper-fu | Nov 19 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Quadrescence: TSA is that air transport? Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:27 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: Hm? | Nov 19 12:27 |
| oiaohm | If so I understand why NAIL ClIPPERS are forbin. | Nov 19 12:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's useless anyway, it's nail CLIPPER, not rail GUN :-) | Nov 19 12:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 19 12:27 |
| schestowitz | "excuse me, sir. You left a railgun at the boarding gate" | Nov 19 12:28 |
| oiaohm | Remember wiring threw aircraft. schestowitz | Nov 19 12:28 |
| Quadrescence | Students who use PowerPoint{tm} led my friend to needing Office on Ubuntu. Will have to install that under PlayOnLinux for him. | Nov 19 12:28 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: can't open office just open powerpoints? | Nov 19 12:29 |
| Quadrescence | (I'm not sure on the compatibility) | Nov 19 12:29 |
| Quadrescence | (i know it CAN open powerpoints) | Nov 19 12:29 |
| MinceR | usually it can | Nov 19 12:29 |
| Quadrescence | Is it just weird sometimes | Nov 19 12:29 |
| Quadrescence | formatting-wise | Nov 19 12:29 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 19 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Nail Clippers and Twessers are forbin because they make nice tools to alter aircraft wiring. Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:30 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: So do pens/pencils | Nov 19 12:30 |
| MinceR | "i have altered the wiring of this plane. pray i do not alter it any further." | Nov 19 12:31 |
| Quadrescence | hahaha | Nov 19 12:31 |
| MinceR | Quadrescence: don't tell the TSA that, they'll forbid pens and pencils. | Nov 19 12:31 |
| oiaohm | pens and pencils are not that effective. | Nov 19 12:31 |
| schestowitz | [12:29] <Quadrescence> schestowitz: can't open office just open powerpoints? | Nov 19 12:32 |
| schestowitz | That's what he does now | Nov 19 12:32 |
| oiaohm | Nail Clippers also make good wire strippers. | Nov 19 12:32 |
| schestowitz | I want to prevent him from using virtualbox | Nov 19 12:32 |
| oiaohm | Wine and MS Office is so so. | Nov 19 12:32 |
| oiaohm | Lot of way libreoffice and koffice are better options for getting powerpoints open. | Nov 19 12:32 |
| oiaohm | You try stripping coating off wires with a pen or a pencil Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:33 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: good point, haven't thought of that | Nov 19 12:33 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they don't say it either, so as not to give people ideas | Nov 19 12:33 |
| schestowitz | It's like when you read news about nuclear facilities and they deliberately avoid giving you technical details | Nov 19 12:34 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: Take the metal pocket clip on my pen to strip it | Nov 19 12:34 |
| schestowitz | So I can't quite find certain info on the Net | Nov 19 12:34 |
| Quadrescence | the point of the pen to sever the coating | Nov 19 12:34 |
| oiaohm | Wonder how long before they forbid those. Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Like how nuclear energy/bombs are made or bombs in general, too | Nov 19 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Don't try googling it either, you'd get flagged | Nov 19 12:34 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: Paperclip from my notebook to redo wiring or short something | Nov 19 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Normally the pocket clips are no very effective at wirely stripping. | Nov 19 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Particularly against the strength coatings aircrafts use. | Nov 19 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Even most ball point pens cannot cut the coating. | Nov 19 12:36 |
| oiaohm | No matter how hard you push. | Nov 19 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Ie you will break pen first. | Nov 19 12:36 |
| Quadrescence | I was thinking more like a mechanical pencil | Nov 19 12:36 |
| Quadrescence | with a sharp end | Nov 19 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Even mechenical pencils | Nov 19 12:36 |
| Quadrescence | What, and tweezers/nail clippers will? | Nov 19 12:37 |
| oiaohm | The coating is design to coat with a lot of abuse. | Nov 19 12:37 |
| oiaohm | nail clippers will. Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:37 |
| oiaohm | Human nails are a very strong matterial. | Nov 19 12:37 |
| Quadrescence | No they're not | Nov 19 12:37 |
| oiaohm | At least some humans nails are. | Nov 19 12:38 |
| Quadrescence | Nails have a hardness of about 2.5/10 | Nov 19 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Note to for ease of cutting some nail cutters will cut double the hardness of human nails. | Nov 19 12:39 |
| oiaohm | No questions. | Nov 19 12:40 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: anyway if they have guns, then surely they have components which would strip wire | Nov 19 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Supprisingly not. | Nov 19 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Most guns even stripped down parts are quite smooth. | Nov 19 12:40 |
| Quadrescence | I'm not saying they'd have a wire stripper | Nov 19 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Ie mostly to prevent risks of jamming. | Nov 19 12:41 |
| oiaohm | What use is a gun that jams. | Nov 19 12:41 |
| Quadrescence | take out the lens from a pair of sunglasses | Nov 19 12:42 |
| Quadrescence | break the lens, and now you have a sharp edge | Nov 19 12:42 |
| oiaohm | plastic tweezers are for handling the higher amp fuses and the like. If you are able to get to somewhere with removal parts. | Nov 19 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Also sunglasses due to increasing safety standards are becoming less of a aircraft risk. Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:43 |
| Quadrescence | Take the glasses, bend the frame, bam, tweezers | Nov 19 12:43 |
| oiaohm | More and more of of the lens are being made from unbreakable matterials. | Nov 19 12:44 |
| oiaohm | At least by normal human appliable force. | Nov 19 12:44 |
| Quadrescence | You have a gun | Nov 19 12:44 |
| Quadrescence | one stamp and it's broken | Nov 19 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Glasses wings make crap tweesers ends of the wings too smooth to pull stuck in times. | Nov 19 12:45 |
| oiaohm | You need texture to make usable tweesers against aircraft. | Nov 19 12:45 |
| Quadrescence | Yes they are crap tweezers, but we are hijacking a plane, not building a circuit in mom's basement | Nov 19 12:45 |
| oiaohm | crap tweezers will not pull out an aircraft part. | Nov 19 12:46 |
| oiaohm | And will not be able to damage a aircraft part either. | Nov 19 12:46 |
| oiaohm | So basically useless. | Nov 19 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Ie stuffed a pair of glasses for nothing. | Nov 19 12:46 |
| Quadrescence | I guess it depends on the part | Nov 19 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Thing you have to remember aircraft electronics are not weak parts. | Nov 19 12:47 |
| Quadrescence | I understand that | Nov 19 12:47 |
| oiaohm | The soft parts are in the cockpit. | Nov 19 12:47 |
| oiaohm | If you are already in there you have the aircraft anyhow. | Nov 19 12:47 |
| MinceR | so take a rifle with a bayonet :> | Nov 19 12:48 |
| oiaohm | The hard parts that can cripple the aircraft are in the crawl spaces Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:48 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: And where else does one plan to modify the plane's wiring? | Nov 19 12:48 |
| oiaohm | The crawl spaces. Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:48 |
| Quadrescence | And how do you plan to get into a crawl space? | Nov 19 12:48 |
| oiaohm | Some old aircrafts you can get in them from the tollet of all places. | Nov 19 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Yes nice hidden entry place. | Nov 19 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Also if you can force your way back into cargo there are entry paths from there. | Nov 19 12:49 |
| oiaohm | Basically if you cannot take the cockpit the next way to take control over some of the aircrafts funtions is the crawl spaces. | Nov 19 12:51 |
| oiaohm | With the fly by wire tech you could techically even alter the course from the crawl space. | Nov 19 12:51 |
| oiaohm | If you knew what wires to go after. | Nov 19 12:51 |
| Quadrescence | So let me get this straight. The TSA is confiscating nail clippers in case they are boarding an old plane and the passenger might crawl into the toilet to access wiring which can be severed with said tweezers in order to get control of some of the plane? | Nov 19 12:51 |
| oiaohm | Tollet room. | Nov 19 12:52 |
| Quadrescence | toilet room, sure | Nov 19 12:52 |
| oiaohm | If you know what panels can be breached some you can get into the crawl space to the main control lines of the aircraft. | Nov 19 12:52 |
| Quadrescence | And this would go un-noticed? | Nov 19 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Thinking after entering the crawl space the panel can be replaced. | Nov 19 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Leaving nothing in the room to show that anyone has entered the space. | Nov 19 12:53 |
| oiaohm | Only possible hint is 1 person missing from head count. | Nov 19 12:53 |
| Quadrescence | And when the plane goes haywire, something is up. What are possible uses for a hijacked plane now? | Nov 19 12:54 |
| oiaohm | Before terror usages this was not thought at threat that should tell you what the most common out come of touching the wiring is going to be. Quadrescence | Nov 19 12:55 |
| MinceR | fly it into a building | Nov 19 12:55 |
| Quadrescence | Fly it into a building. And if that's the case, then why not use the butt end of the rifle to do your job | Nov 19 12:56 |
| oiaohm | Odds of coming out without a crash from touching the wiring is basically zero after the wires have been cut. | Nov 19 12:56 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: So let me ask all-in-all. Do you think confiscating tweezers is very reasonable? | Nov 19 12:57 |
| oiaohm | tweesers are required to pull the main fuses of the aircraft without ending up dead. | Nov 19 12:57 |
| Quadrescence | why pull them if you can just break them | Nov 19 12:58 |
| oiaohm | Due to the way they are shield to prevent objects hitting them and breaking them. | Nov 19 12:58 |
| oiaohm | You have to pull them to break them. | Nov 19 12:58 |
| oiaohm | And in flight there is no need to replace them. You have switchs to switch over to reserve fuses. | Nov 19 12:59 |
| Quadrescence | So yes, you do think confiscating tweezers is reasonable? | Nov 19 12:59 |
| oiaohm | When people were just holding aircraft for ransom there was no reason to confiscate them. | Nov 19 13:00 |
| oiaohm | Since ransom people wanted to live. | Nov 19 13:00 |
| oiaohm | Pulling fuses is basically you want to ide. | Nov 19 13:00 |
| oiaohm | die. | Nov 19 13:00 |
| oiaohm | Particularly when thinking pulling them while active has most likely destoryed the fuse anyhow so it cannot be reinserted. | Nov 19 13:01 |
| Quadrescence | oiaohm: btw, what is your profession? | Nov 19 13:01 |
| oiaohm | I have done a mixture of things over my years. | Nov 19 13:01 |
| Quadrescence | like what? :) | Nov 19 13:01 |
| oiaohm | Theres days current doing IT. But I have done installations into private jets. | Nov 19 13:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes in the process was a pain in ass with how much shielding you have around wires in aircraft. | Nov 19 13:03 |
| Quadrescence | Neat | Nov 19 13:03 |
| oiaohm | I might be going into avionics next. | Nov 19 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Just for something different for a while. | Nov 19 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Quadrescence: I started of all things as jackaroo on cattle properties. | Nov 19 13:05 |
| Quadrescence | hehe | Nov 19 13:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes pain in but about IT install in aircrafts is you need someone with avionics to tell you if something you have just installed has just stuffed something important in the aircraft. | Nov 19 13:07 |
| oiaohm | 12 month course gives you avionics | Nov 19 13:08 |
| oiaohm | done some fruit picking and tree termination work as well. Quadrescence | Nov 19 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Also done time as a steam train driver. | Nov 19 13:10 |
| Quadrescence | haha awesome | Nov 19 13:10 |
| oiaohm | IT also has the habit taking me to odd items. | Nov 19 13:11 |
| oiaohm | I do custom electronics as well. Quadrescence | Nov 19 13:11 |
| oiaohm | For control systems and the like | Nov 19 13:11 |
| oiaohm | I have never been a person to stick to just one job Quadrescence | Nov 19 13:12 |
| oiaohm | And sometimes when I am sick of IT I go and be a research assistant for a local lawyer. | Nov 19 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Quadrescence: so what is your background like. | Nov 19 13:15 |
| Quadrescence | I don't really have a background. | Nov 19 13:20 |
| Quadrescence | I was rejected from the universities to which I applied around here, so I don't have a university education. | Nov 19 13:20 |
| Quadrescence | At the moment I do not have a job. Nonetheless, every day, I am working on two projects: one is to develop a system for doing general programming and mathematics, another is my book | Nov 19 13:21 |
| oiaohm | I missed that I failed Univeristy the first time around. | Nov 19 13:21 |
| oiaohm | Yes little too much partly animal. | Nov 19 13:21 |
| Quadrescence | I am in the US, and I didn't fail anything. I just wasn't even accepted in. | Nov 19 13:21 |
| oiaohm | If I had my time overagain with I would go for my cablers first. | Nov 19 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Then do IT. | Nov 19 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Lack of wiring in buildings are my biggest delays on jobs. | Nov 19 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Quadrescence: here fail to get into Uni go for a trade. | Nov 19 13:28 |
| oiaohm | Then try as a mature student latter. | Nov 19 13:29 |
| oiaohm | Basically it would have been better if I had failed to get into UNI here Quadrescence | Nov 19 13:31 |
| schestowitz | [13:21] <oiaohm> Yes little too much partly animal. | Nov 19 13:44 |
| schestowitz | Which animal were you "partly"? :-) | Nov 19 13:45 |
| MinceR | "At a partial stop, I partially get up." | Nov 19 13:45 |
| schestowitz | One buttcheek | Nov 19 13:45 |
| oiaohm | party not partly I hate word swap. | Nov 19 13:49 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 19 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | Alternative To The "200 Lines Kernel Patch That Does Wonders" Which You Can Use Right Away http://is.gd/hq7IU !linux ☛ | Nov 19 14:38 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://voltier.com/2010/11/12/reddits-astonishin-altruism/ | Nov 19 15:14 |
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| MinceR | that page slows firefox down to a crawl | Nov 19 15:20 |
| MinceR | i wonder where those 4096 transparent pngs on top of each other are... | Nov 19 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | "@rcweir did you see http://is.gd/hqkGQ ? Defend the "ODF" acronym early." | Nov 19 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't realise reddit was linking to us..... | Nov 19 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Checking out some stuff now... | Nov 19 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Watch how the trolls show up at end of http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/di2h5/why_gnu_founder_richard_stallman_crashed_the/ | Nov 19 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | And some get their messages deleted for abuse | Nov 19 15:36 |
| schestowitz | It's psychopath/sicko Tim Smith and others who stalked/harassed in Digg | Nov 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Kids trapped in adults' bodies | Nov 19 15:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/d6nqu/ideological_attacks_on_ubuntu_continue_canonical/ | Nov 19 15:39 |
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| schestowitz | Or talking about the author, nothing about the content: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/dh5vm/halo_coverage_hype_is_fake_largely_paid_for/ | Nov 19 15:40 |
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| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8 | Nov 19 19:20 |
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| Ender2070 | [15:04] <abeNd-org> I have enough news sources in my rss feed that I feel no need to fill it with reddit/digg/etc | Nov 19 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | stopped following digg myself, its full of pro agenda news | Nov 19 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | too much pro liberal and pro climate change bullshit | Nov 19 19:32 |
| Ender2070 | my google reader keeps me up to date, and using an rss reader has increased my productivity | Nov 19 19:32 |
| MinceR | digg is a swarming place for crApple cultists | Nov 19 19:34 |
| Ender2070 | plenty of sites to follow these days | Nov 19 19:35 |
| Ender2070 | digg is stupid anyway | Nov 19 19:35 |
| Ender2070 | slashdot too | Nov 19 19:35 |
| Ender2070 | I unsubscribed there | Nov 19 19:36 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 19 19:36 |
| Ender2070 | I noticed it was filling up with microsoft news | Nov 19 19:36 |
| MinceR | /. is also full of crApple cultists | Nov 19 19:36 |
| Ender2070 | which is a shame, slashdot used to be great | Nov 19 19:36 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 19 19:36 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 19 19:36 |
| Ender2070 | they dont even promote free software anymore | Nov 19 19:37 |
| Ender2070 | its just mainstream news now | Nov 19 19:37 |
| Ender2070 | allowing the mob to vote on the relevance of news is a bad model | Nov 19 19:38 |
| Ender2070 | which is why I think digg is stupid | Nov 19 19:38 |
| MinceR | well, you have /. where a small cabal decides the relevance of news | Nov 19 19:40 |
| MinceR | did that work out better? :> | Nov 19 19:40 |
| Ender2070 | theres always a small cabal that decides the news | Nov 19 19:54 |
| Ender2070 | when you allow mob voting external forces can rig the news | Nov 19 19:54 |
| Ender2070 | perhaps one solution is having your computer decide what news you would be interested in based on what you look at | Nov 19 19:55 |
| MinceR | we don't have AIs that powerful | Nov 19 19:55 |
| Ender2070 | google is almost there but its dangerous to privacy | Nov 19 19:56 |
| MinceR | and to an extent i want to see news _others_ consider important | Nov 19 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | i dont want to put up with the phoney pro climate change news | Nov 19 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | or 1000 listings of 'teabagger' haters | Nov 19 19:56 |
| Ender2070 | im not a tea party supporter, but i find them less annoying than liberals | Nov 19 19:57 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Nov 19 19:57 |
| Ender2070 | what is it captain price says | Nov 19 19:58 |
| Ender2070 | The enemy of my enemy is my friend | Nov 19 19:58 |
| MinceR | i find tea party supporters more annoying | Nov 19 19:58 |
| MinceR | though i'm aware that people like to misinterpret the word "liberal" | Nov 19 19:58 |
| MinceR | especially here in western balkan | Nov 19 19:58 |
| Ender2070 | well im mainly talking about socialists | Nov 19 19:58 |
| Ender2070 | not really liberals | Nov 19 19:58 |
| Ender2070 | ours are called liberals but ndp are socialist too | Nov 19 19:58 |
| Ender2070 | and are just as annoying | Nov 19 19:59 |
| Ender2070 | the media doesn't even cover CAP here (Canadian Action Party) | Nov 19 19:59 |
| abeNd-org | we should do an opml share | Nov 19 19:59 |
| Ender2070 | one of the only parties against NAFTA | Nov 19 19:59 |
| MinceR | we had a party that called itself "liberal" but supported the commies and voted on a law with them which impairs freedom of speech | Nov 19 19:59 |
| MinceR | i have no opml yet | Nov 19 19:59 |
| Ender2070 | liberals are left wing | Nov 19 19:59 |
| MinceR | only a feed2imap config file | Nov 19 19:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 19 19:59 |
| abeNd-org | whatever rss reader you have should be able to export/import opml? | Nov 19 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | left wing = communism, socialism | Nov 19 20:00 |
| MinceR | Ender2070: left wing has nothing to do with liberalism | Nov 19 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | here at least it does | Nov 19 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | liberalism is left wing here | Nov 19 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | not far left | Nov 19 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | close to center | Nov 19 20:00 |
| Ender2070 | NDP is far left | Nov 19 20:01 |
| Ender2070 | very far left | Nov 19 20:01 |
| Ender2070 | we have two communist political parties too | Nov 19 20:01 |
| MinceR | so canadians in general are just as ignorant of the meaning of the word as hungarians in general | Nov 19 20:01 |
| Ender2070 | 'the communist party' and 'the marxist-leninist' party | Nov 19 20:01 |
| Ender2070 | both received around 1000 votes last election in my city | Nov 19 20:02 |
| MinceR | the USSR was oh so liberal, after all :> | Nov 19 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | liberals here used to be a centrist party | Nov 19 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | they used to borrow from both wings | Nov 19 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | now its pure socialism | Nov 19 20:02 |
| Ender2070 | im thinking the american republicans are not right wing anymore | Nov 19 20:03 |
| Ender2070 | in my opinion they are in the middle now | Nov 19 20:04 |
| Ender2070 | someone on twitter got me a link to this banned book im going to read | Nov 19 20:05 |
| Ender2070 | the sign of the scorpion | Nov 19 20:05 |
| schestowitz | [19:35] <Ender2070> slashdot too | Nov 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | I get good link stories in identica now | Nov 19 20:07 |
| Ender2070 | I get those sometimes | Nov 19 20:07 |
| schestowitz | +rsss | Nov 19 20:07 |
| Ender2070 | usually you end up syndicating them on techrights | Nov 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Some feeds I still need to make up | Nov 19 20:08 |
| Ender2070 | so I just catch them there | Nov 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yeah, I go through all of them and catch what's relevant | Nov 19 20:08 |
| Ender2070 | yeah its good stuff | Nov 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Linux Today has too much heavy-dury ads | Nov 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | LXer links directly to sites | Nov 19 20:08 |
| Ender2070 | I also follow planet fordora, lxer, and a few others | Nov 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | I hardly use Google News anymore, loads of repetition and no person to separate wheat from chaff | Nov 19 20:09 |
| Ender2070 | oh I follow them for Canada news | Nov 19 20:09 |
| Ender2070 | I also follow a number of podcasts via google reader | Nov 19 20:09 |
| Ender2070 | chromium does it all, I can listen to the feeds through it | Nov 19 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | hurry up chrome os | Nov 19 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | I want those app tabs in chromium | Nov 19 20:10 |
| Ender2070 | I follow so many more podcasts now | Nov 19 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Chromium oS will be OK | Nov 19 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Chrome OS prevents access to root | Nov 19 20:14 |
| schestowitz | RO | Nov 19 20:14 |
| MinceR | should be fine for a quickboot OS | Nov 19 20:14 |
| schestowitz | ....She said | Nov 19 20:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 19 20:21 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Nov 19 20:24 |
| Ender2070 | i might get a netbook | Nov 19 20:24 |
| Ender2070 | would be a good OS | Nov 19 20:24 |
| Ender2070 | fedora for arm isn't official | Nov 19 20:25 |
| Ender2070 | im thinking thats the type im getting | Nov 19 20:25 |
| Ender2070 | unless I cave in and get intel | Nov 19 20:25 |
| Ender2070 | atom is getting better | Nov 19 20:25 |
| schestowitz | For the first time in many months I check who follows me in Twitter | Nov 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Some people from Microsoft | Nov 19 20:32 |
| MinceR | can you block them? :> | Nov 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Mike Masnick (Techdirt) too.... he doesn't follow many :-) | Nov 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what for? It's best for them to follow me | Nov 19 20:33 |
| schestowitz | For me to get across to them what's negative about their employer | Nov 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Can help a little in helping them to change jobs | Nov 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | to hinder them in their "damage control" jobs | Nov 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | That too | Nov 19 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Some trolls who harrass me also follow me | Nov 19 20:34 |
| Ender2070 | you have a lot of weird people following you | Nov 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz | There's over 1000... I never checked the last 300 or so... some names there suprise me | Nov 19 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | I checked your list one time to find people to add to mine | Nov 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz | LIKE sTORMY pETERS | Nov 19 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | bill gates | Nov 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Damn CAPS LOCK... | Nov 19 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | follows you | Nov 19 20:35 |
| Ender2070 | and hes verified | Nov 19 20:35 |
| schestowitz | I criticised her before, she's still realising I'm not against her, just the companies she served in the past | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates is fake | Nov 19 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | nothing special, i think he follows all his followers automatically | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | it's PR agents | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | He maybe says OK this and that | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Or contributes | Nov 19 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | ghostwriters | Nov 19 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | no doubt | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | But people who watch him for a long time say there's indication his accounts are PR | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | He has speech writers | Nov 19 20:36 |
| Ender2070 | obviously | Nov 19 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Pretending to be Mr know-it-all | Nov 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | His writer now writes for Hillary | Nov 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | And his wife | Nov 19 20:37 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | You can read it in two ways | Nov 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Bill's wife | Nov 19 20:37 |
| Ender2070 | they should just pay the writers instead and fire these so-called leaders | Nov 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Or Hilalry's wife | Nov 19 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Patent lawyers read me too | Nov 19 20:38 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Nov 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz | But the reason I do this is I add many people | Nov 19 20:38 |
| Ender2070 | some media too | Nov 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz | All the people whom I know that follow me | Nov 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz | It's impolite not to | Nov 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz | And I want to read them | Nov 19 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Darlene | Nov 19 20:39 |
| Ender2070 | after I went back to twitter and linked the accounts, i gained a mass following | Nov 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz | From the foss tech show... :-) | Nov 19 20:39 |
| Ender2070 | I get a few each day | Nov 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz | It only grows | Nov 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Until twitter jumps the shark | Nov 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz | In Digg I've had close to 3000 'friends' | Nov 19 20:39 |
| schestowitz | But in Digg it rarely means they really follow, it's like FB | Nov 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz | Just a portfolio of 'friends' | Nov 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz | No action as main activity | Nov 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz | LinkedIn is an "I'm an important worker" portfolio | Nov 19 20:40 |
| schestowitz | In identica and twitter at least I follow and get followed on content other than people themselves.... actual ideas and events | Nov 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz | I get followed by: | Nov 19 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Marrisa Poir | Nov 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I_loveMicrosoft Marrisa Poir | Nov 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | ^quote | Nov 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Username I_loveMicrosoft | Nov 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | And a picture of attractive ladty | Nov 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Surely some agent/junk | Nov 19 20:42 |
| schestowitz | toddbishop follows | Nov 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Surprised I never noticed and followed back... | Nov 19 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Jason Pollock | Nov 19 20:44 |
| Ender2070 | a lot of ppl following you are against you | Nov 19 21:07 |
| Ender2070 | not most but some | Nov 19 21:07 |
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| schestowitz | few I recognised, just one | Nov 19 21:42 |
| schestowitz | in recent months | Nov 19 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | [21:58] <schestowitz> invite me | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:07] <ThistleWeb> o/ | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:32] <_Goblin> ____________________________Start of show_____________________________________ | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:33] <_Goblin> Roy speaks about article "Linux at end of life cycle" | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:35] <schestowitz> <a href="http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsoft-linux-at-end-of-its-life.html" title="Microsoft: 'Linux at the End of its Life Cycle'"> | Nov 19 23:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: open...: Microsoft: "Linux at the End of its Life Cycle" .::. Size~: 100.48 KB | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:36] <schestowitz> http://open.cnews.ru/reviews/index.shtml?2010/11/18/416534_1 | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:38] <ThistleWeb> vice president in charge of staplers | Nov 19 23:45 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <schestowitz> :-) | Nov 19 23:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: CNews:Îòêðûòîå ÏÎ - Open Source .::. Size~: 90.42 KB | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [22:57] <_Goblin> Gordon, Roy and Tim talk about Dell's support of Linux (then a hasty retreat) | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [22:58] <ThistleWeb> aka Brave Sir Michael (Dell) ran away (Holy Grail reference) | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:00] <_Goblin> Talking about Linspire , Linunx in Walmart | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:05] <_Goblin> Return rates of Linux machines..... | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:10] <_Goblin> New users - Installing Linux | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <_Goblin> "Free Software and Books for Unemployed Developers (thanks to Microsoft MVPs!)" | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:13] <_Goblin> http://www.sqlmusings.com/2010/07/15/free-software-and-books-for-unemployed-developers-thanks-to-microsoft-mvps/ | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:16] <_Goblin> what happened? | Nov 19 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Free Software and Books for Unemployed Developers (thanks to Microsoft MVPs!) | belle's sql musings .::. Size~: 85.3 KB | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:19] <ThistleWeb> bk | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:20] <ThistleWeb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/31/microsoft_india_tax_ruling/ | Nov 19 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Microsoft EULA lands it with $175m Indian tax headache • The Register .::. Size~: 20.55 KB | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:25] <_Goblin> Gordon talks about how Microsoft was hung by their own EULA. | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:25] <_Goblin> *hanged | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:26] <_Goblin> Hung by the Eula | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:30] <_Goblin> India - They've got it right! | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:30] <_Goblin> (Gordon Introduces) | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:34] <_Goblin> __________We'll look to wrap up____________ | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:36] <_Goblin> Closed source......addiction.......translations..... | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz |  | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <_Goblin> The result of FUD: | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <_Goblin> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ignorant-teacher-linux-in-education.html | Nov 19 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <_Goblin> _____________________________END SHOW___________________________________ | Nov 19 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: School Teacher Accusing a Student And an Open Source Software Project of Breaking The Law .::. Size~: 90.16 KB | Nov 19 23:46 |
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