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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/58600225#notice-59313329 "@schestowitz Replaced Fedora 14 by Kubuntu 10.10. I'm getting lazy. Blame it on (k)ubuntu's easy to install "Methapackages" !ubuntu !fedora"Nov 27 04:41
schestowitz:-/Nov 27 04:41
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schestowitz"Wow that's a great example of Google making Microsoft statements. How abt an actual product before the predictions? Sheesh!" http://twitter.com/#!/CajunTechie/status/8284037810491393Nov 27 06:46
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schestowitzoiaohm: #Unigine ☛ Starts A !Linux ☛ Game Development Competition http://is.gd/hRfVGNov 27 07:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: [Phoronix] Unigine Starts A Linux Game Development Competition .::. Size~: 19.84 KBNov 27 07:21
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oiaohmschestowitz: funny the will not open up engine for open users.Nov 27 08:00
oiaohmNow that they are not getting users they are now running a game comp.Nov 27 08:01
schestowitzyeah, and they try to get coverage through Linux/PhoronuxNov 27 08:01
schestowitz*nixNov 27 08:01
oiaohmYes a game competion is need.Nov 27 08:03
oiaohmBut not UniqineNov 27 08:03
oiaohmhttp://www.rigsofrods.com  I would love to see a comp about this.Nov 27 08:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Official Rigs of Rods Forum - Rigs of Rods .::. Size~: 40.02 KBNov 27 08:04
oiaohmTake one of the most exact physic simulators out there and game.Nov 27 08:05
oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-exec-60-of-businesses-could-dump-windows-for-chrome-os  Google goals are getting more targeted.Nov 27 08:12
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oiaohmhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/25/technology/25chrome.htmlNov 27 08:13
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.01 KBNov 27 08:13
schestowitz♺ @lxoliva good news: Electrolux+ProFUSION's fridge with !GNU ☛ !Linux ☛ will not be tivoized or otherwise restricted http://ur1.ca/2f4ytNov 27 08:23
TechrightsBot-scTitle: First product of ProFUSION and Electrolux partnership | ProFUSION .::. Size~: 8.86 KBNov 27 08:23
schestowitzDid you see it, oiaohm?Nov 27 08:23
oiaohmThat fridge I am wondering on what size harddrive I can fit in it.Nov 27 10:04
oiaohmThe fridge is start of second wave.Nov 27 10:05
oiaohmhttp://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/nab-computer-glitch-hits-wage-centrelink-payments/story-e6frf7l6-1225961012671  I guess you seen this one.  schestowitzNov 27 11:12
TechrightsBot-scTitle: NAB pay bungle hits thousands |  Herald Sun .::. Size~: 68.26 KBNov 27 11:12
oiaohmThe one I cannot find online yet I don't know where I will.  But a builder with a bobcat need 2000 dollars to pay some bills in this mess.   So when NAB would not pay proceed to use the bobcat to get the money.Nov 27 11:14
oiaohmCurrently it looks like he will get away with it without charge.Nov 27 11:14
schestowitzoiaohm: windows-based?Nov 27 11:42
oiaohmThe core last time I checked of the nab as a old UnixNov 27 11:43
oiaohmSome how I have the felling the machine just impoded from old age.Nov 27 11:44
oiaohmhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101124102828723  SCO is not going to get to walk away.Nov 27 11:47
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Groklaw - HP Reserves Its Rights in SCO Bankruptcy - Mentions Litigation Resolved in 2003 .::. Size~: 110.89 KBNov 27 11:48
schestowitzThis one I was gonna write aboutNov 27 12:15
schestowitzFirst I need to do about 10 posts about patents, hopefully todayNov 27 12:15
schestowitzPatents are a HUGE issueNov 27 12:15
schestowitzEsp. nowNov 27 12:15
schestowitzTechrights was ahead of its time covering this in relation to NOVLNov 27 12:16
oiaohmThe SCO case is going nice second wave method now.Nov 27 12:17
oiaohmIe the ones who paid licences to SCO want there money back.Nov 27 12:17
oiaohmReally I would love to see that happen with patents.Nov 27 12:18
oiaohmWonder of Orcale will hit SCO next.Nov 27 12:18
schestowitzNaaa..Nov 27 12:42
oiaohmRemember SUN payed for a License from SCO.Nov 27 12:50
oiaohmNow Orcale owns SUN so refund.Nov 27 12:50
schestowitzOh yeah... :-)Nov 27 12:52
schestowitzHaven't thought  of thjatNov 27 12:52
schestowitzWell, ORCL has many patents it can sue with nowNov 27 12:52
schestowitzQuestion is, will it need to?Nov 27 12:52
MinceRprobably doesn't need to but will anywayNov 27 12:53
oiaohmhttp://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/11/26/police-in-the-uk-are-seeking-the-authority-to-close-website-domains/Nov 27 13:06
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Police in the UK are seeking authority to close domains .::. Size~: 98.04 KBNov 27 13:06
oiaohmI expect to see this spreedNov 27 13:06
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schestowitzAccount @identitymine is seemingly spamming Microsoft stuff, targeting unrelated people in Twitter by naming them. #AstroTurf #pr #microsoftNov 27 16:02
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schestowitz#Android ☛ tablets forecast to grab 15 percent share in 2011 http://is.gd/hSqFT !linux ☛ #tablet ☛Nov 27 17:28
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Android tablets forecast to grab 15 percent share in 2011 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.59 KBNov 27 17:28
schestowitz!Linux ☛ touchscreen computer runs on dual-core Atom http://is.gd/hSsPKNov 27 17:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Linux touchscreen computer runs on dual-core Atom - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.71 KBNov 27 17:37
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sebsebsebHiNov 27 18:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6TCcMqL8PMNov 27 19:24
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvdsFratVHk&feature=relatedNov 27 19:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle:     YouTube        - The TFC on the BoE final   .::. Size~: 128.71 KBNov 27 19:44
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GycOWIdUrQs&feature=relatedNov 27 19:58
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schestowitzNice videosNov 27 19:58
MinceRhttp://www.osnews.com/story/24074/US_Government_Censors_70_WebsitesNov 27 20:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: US Government Censors 70 Websites .::. Size~: 26.51 KBNov 27 20:04
schestowitzMinceR: 77 iircNov 27 20:09
schestowitzAFAIK these sites did nothing wrong, some were just search for sharing *some* arbitrary filesNov 27 20:10
schestowitzIf true, they won't achieve much]Nov 27 20:10
schestowitzPeople will use something elseNov 27 20:10
schestowitzWhack-a-moleNov 27 20:10
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gnufreexI just now saw I am banned on OSnews. Can't login.Nov 27 21:53
gnufreexDon't know why.Nov 27 21:53
gnufreexOh, now I remember. I told Thom Holwerda that he is a Microsoft shill because he writes about Vista Phony 7Nov 27 21:59
gnufreexHe was against it when MSFT sued Motorola, now he praises it.Nov 27 22:00
gnufreexThat is fishy.Nov 27 22:01
gnufreexAnd it was tongue-in-cheek comment, fact that he banned me because of that makes me think I was more right than I realized.Nov 27 22:02
gnufreexHe is probably really paid to boost WP7Nov 27 22:03
schestowitzThey used to have anti-Linux adsNov 27 22:34
schestowitzMaybe still doNov 27 22:34
schestowitzAnyway, Thom is the reason I dropped the site like a wet sockNov 27 22:34
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gnufreexAdds?Nov 27 22:40
gnufreexThey had interviews with NetBSD devs bashing GPL blatantly.Nov 27 22:41
gnufreexI thought OSnews was starting to be more FLOSS friendly, but it seems that chunk of 500m for WP7 marketing made effect.Nov 27 22:41
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schestowitz"marketing"Nov 27 22:50
schestowitzHeheNov 27 22:50
schestowitzEuphemismNov 27 22:50
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sebsebseb Nov 27 23:12
sebsebseb Nov 27 23:12
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: Uh why are you in here, but not #techrights ?Nov 27 23:13
FurnaceBoywhy are YOU in hereNov 27 23:14
FurnaceBoy:)Nov 27 23:14
FurnaceBoybecause I tend to be too political for that chanNov 27 23:14
sebsebsebuh what?Nov 27 23:14
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: schestowitz told you to come here only or something?Nov 27 23:15
FurnaceBoyI like to talk to schestowitz about things that make geeks uncomfortableNov 27 23:15
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: no, it's my own decisionNov 27 23:15
FurnaceBoy[some geeks]Nov 27 23:15
sebsebsebthings such as?Nov 27 23:15
FurnaceBoysome ppl prefer to avoid politics.Nov 27 23:15
FurnaceBoyi don't want to nudge #techrights OT.Nov 27 23:15
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: well schestowitz does that and techNov 27 23:15
sebsebsebpolotics and tech and yeahNov 27 23:16
FurnaceBoyhe doesNov 27 23:16
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: also your on identica I think, maybe we should subscribe to each otherNov 27 23:16
FurnaceBoyI am. @qu1j0t3Nov 27 23:16
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: I am @sebsebsebNov 27 23:16
sebsebsebanyway  eww Facebook I just said yes to a stupid app, so I could see something stupid!Nov 27 23:18
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Ender2070yeah FurnaceBoy knows his stuffNov 27 23:20
Ender2070hes too dangerous for mainstreamNov 27 23:20
sebsebsebEnder2070: heh I guessNov 27 23:20
oiaohmReally its sad how dumb mainstream is Ender2070Nov 27 23:21
Ender2070I knowNov 27 23:22
Ender2070they think socialism is a good thingNov 27 23:22
sebsebsebEnder2070: some of them think the Xray scanners in USA, are perfecty okNov 27 23:22
Ender2070gotta give up soverignty for the global economyNov 27 23:22
sebsebsebapparantly  they may be doing it in Manchester air port now as well though,  schestowitz any truth to that?Nov 27 23:23
Ender2070I vote we let the ice caps meltNov 27 23:23
sebsebseboh and it seems schestowitz has been enjoying giving out links on this subject on identicaNov 27 23:24
sebsebsebas well as quite a few other peopleNov 27 23:24
oiaohmIts like the ones screaming about bittorrent sites being taken down.Nov 27 23:24
Ender2070much of Canada is too far north to matter if there is a floodNov 27 23:24
Ender2070err, the elevationNov 27 23:24
oiaohmI am sorry to say if you want to do something illegal by one countries laws don't host any part of your service there.Nov 27 23:24
oiaohmOpen Source groups have had todo this to avoid patents and other issues for years.Nov 27 23:25
Ender2070all those things are petty little issuesNov 27 23:25
sebsebsebI am not so sure about using this channel quite a lotNov 27 23:25
sebsebsebI quite liked, when good chats happended in wellNov 27 23:25
sebsebseb#boycottnovell and then #techrightsNov 27 23:26
oiaohmAlso I fully agree for bittorrent sites leading people to illegal software to be removed.Nov 27 23:26
Ender2070i dont oiaohmNov 27 23:26
oiaohmReason 1 lot of bot net computer infections come from illegal softwareNov 27 23:26
Ender2070they should be treated like GoogleNov 27 23:26
Ender2070and there wouldnt be illegal software if all of it was free softwareNov 27 23:27
oiaohmLot of these have refused todo what google does.Nov 27 23:27
sebsebsebEnder2070: oiaohm your doing a software chat, that fits in nicely in #techrightsNov 27 23:27
oiaohmDon't obey safe harbour rules lose your site.Nov 27 23:27
oiaohmYes safe harbour rules are quite simple.Nov 27 23:27
Ender2070oiaohm - do you even use free softwareNov 27 23:27
Ender2070other than for serversNov 27 23:27
oiaohmIf you don't know about the illegal action you don't have to do anything.Nov 27 23:28
oiaohmThis machine I am sitting on is a debianNov 27 23:28
oiaohmAnd this is my main machine.Nov 27 23:28
Ender2070okNov 27 23:28
oiaohmThat I do 90 percent of my work and home stuff from.Nov 27 23:28
Ender2070just seems like you're supportive of mainstreamNov 27 23:28
oiaohmI am sick of server I  deal with being attacked by windows bot nets.Nov 27 23:29
Ender2070you like to say AD is a good thing tooNov 27 23:29
oiaohmOne of the biggest sources of bot net infections is illegal windows software that has been modified and distributed by bittorrent.Nov 27 23:29
Ender2070rightNov 27 23:30
Ender2070people after cracked proprietary softwareNov 27 23:30
oiaohmAnd the cracked are about 95 percent infected.Nov 27 23:30
Ender2070i dont agree there on the rateNov 27 23:31
Ender2070most if it isnt infectedNov 27 23:31
Ender2070its rare if you're not dumbNov 27 23:31
oiaohmEnder2070:   The rate is that high.   Lot are stealth infections.Nov 27 23:36
Ender2070meh its the peopleNov 27 23:36
Ender2070using xp tooNov 27 23:36
oiaohmPoor arguement.Nov 27 23:36
oiaohmI have kept XP secure in many locations.Nov 27 23:37
Ender2070yeah but its harderNov 27 23:37
oiaohmYes it requires a lot of training.Nov 27 23:37
Ender2070plus, its EOL soon?Nov 27 23:37
oiaohmadsl modems Nats prevent direct connect from anywhere you have not been.Nov 27 23:38
oiaohmSome of the bot net ones are evil.  You install the software it turns particular things on that could be normal.Nov 27 23:38
oiaohmSo no anti-virus alarm.Nov 27 23:38
Ender2070yeahNov 27 23:39
oiaohmThen provides a link to look up on the developer of the crack.Nov 27 23:39
oiaohmAccess that back probes for the hole that was created.Nov 27 23:39
Ender2070thats why it doesnt pay to use proprietary softwareNov 27 23:39
Ender2070dont have to crack free softwareNov 27 23:40
oiaohmIllegal proprietary softwareNov 27 23:40
oiaohmOpen source software is perfect solution.Nov 27 23:40
oiaohmPlease note 95 percent infected include trap class.Nov 27 23:40
oiaohmBasically hang out with crims expect to be shot.Nov 27 23:41
Ender2070yeah trueNov 27 23:41
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