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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft clarifies Silverlight role (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/aapSJsNov 02 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.27.54 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.32.23 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.35.7 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-rc6-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 00:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20100930 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 00:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Android swamps #iPhone, tops U.S. market, jumps to number 2 worldwide http://is.gd/gAGVvNov 02 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu #Android swamps #iPhone, tops U.S. market, jumps to number 2 worldwide http://is.gd/gAGVvNov 02 00:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android swamps iPhone, tops U.S. market, jumps to number 2 worldwide - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 62.59 KBNov 02 00:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Russia Plans Secure Operating System http://is.gd/gAHgmNov 02 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @ptptweets: Our sesh proposal (Enhancing #CiviCRM for community organizing) was accepted for @NTENorg's 2011 Nonprofit Tech Conference!Nov 02 00:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ awesome! @schestowitz: RT @rsandu #Android swamps #iPhone, tops U.S. market, jumps to number 2 worldwide http://is.gd/gAGVvNov 02 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] MT @schestowitz Safe to use #Microsoft? #Silverlight is the new Shockwave. Content graveyard. No plugin // NOBODY could have predicted this!Nov 02 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @speeddefrost Isn't that GET LAMPNov 02 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @speeddefrost Isn't that GET LAMP ?Nov 02 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I just read all the spin and I still think Microsoft has decided HTML5 is a better weapon to kill Adobe than Silverlight is.Nov 02 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O pessoal já reclamava que brasileiro escrevia mal graças a Internet, miguxês e talz. Agora com o Tweeter, piorou. Di+ :-DNov 02 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Hope or hype http://ur1.ca/28rpkNov 02 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Tiririca: Inversão de valores ou o verdadeiro Fílio do Braziu ???Nov 02 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] If I knew more about running newer kernels (i.e. how well they run) from Debian Backports in the stable release, I'd feel much better.Nov 02 01:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Dalit hero http://ur1.ca/28s7wNov 02 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @pla1: My free access to the UbuntuOne mobile music streaming comes to an end on Nov 8 2010. Not sure if I'll pay $3.99/month is.gd/gAJXYNov 02 02:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Total #Election Awareness: Watch #Voting Problem Reports in Real Time https://eff.org/r.t9FNov 02 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: "The strategy coming out of Redmond is chaotic at best" --Microsoft employee, earlier today http://ur1.ca/28owcNov 02 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Nobody gets fired for buying Microsoft? Well, look at Silverlight. It's the new shockwave. Content graveyard on the Web...Nov 02 02:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Meet Cory Doctorow! He is the host of EFF's 2010 Pioneer Awards! https://eff.org/r.5tuNov 02 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   The rise and fall of Microsofts UX platform – Part 3 | RIAGENIC.com .::. Size~: 83.27 KBNov 02 02:27
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oiaohmReally I should do up the transform chart of Linux.Nov 02 02:30
oiaohmLinux is ceasing bit by bit to be Unix.Nov 02 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻@neurostech free software foundation introduces guidelines for FSF endorsed hardware bit.ly/agNUQa hopefully some Neuros devices will be inNov 02 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Cholera outbreak in Haiti http://ur1.ca/28snfNov 02 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Major Happenings From The Ubuntu 11.04 Summit: Last week was the Ubuntu 11.04 Developer Summit in Orlando, Flo... http://bit.ly/dqqZpTNov 02 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Watching some basketball now, had a very productive day!Nov 02 03:01
cubezzzoiaohm, could you explain that in more detail?Nov 02 03:12
oiaohmcubezzz: X11 the trandition interface of all Unix's Linux guys are now looking to a future with wayland.Nov 02 03:13
oiaohmThe droping of sys V style statup heading to systemd starting.Nov 02 03:15
oiaohmSet of developers looking at intergrating dbus into the Linux kernel.Nov 02 03:16
oiaohmDevelopers looking at dropping text based startup completely.Nov 02 03:16
cubezzzhmmmNov 02 03:17
oiaohmLinux supercomputer builders being interested in GPU chips.Nov 02 03:17
oiaohmRealtime developers being interested in being mainline linux kernel.Nov 02 03:18
oiaohmQT support glib message ques.  So allowing them to work directly with gtk applications even start porting gtk applications to qt.Nov 02 03:19
oiaohmAnd that is just the high lights.   cubezzzNov 02 03:19
oiaohmIts serously getting to the point we need a chart to attempt to work out where the next 2 years will end up.Nov 02 03:20
cubezzza FOSS operating system chart would be interesting alsoNov 02 03:22
oiaohmThen you have to remember that lot of developers who have been working BLK have completed there work.Nov 02 03:22
oiaohmSo are free to work on other projects.Nov 02 03:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36-git17 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 03:22
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oiaohmfanotify is basically complete final touch ups maybe another 2 to 3 months.Nov 02 03:23
oiaohmSo those developers will be free to start working on other projects.Nov 02 03:23
oiaohmLinux kernel goes threws paterns of status stable then when major projects end it gets interesting.Nov 02 03:23
oiaohmEven reactos is having a long term project land.Nov 02 03:25
oiaohmEnd of this year seams to be finish off project that have been running for 4 years or more.Nov 02 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz outlining is an outlandish practice to give myself an illusion of control over characters & story. !NaNoWriMo :DNov 02 03:27
oiaohmReally another interesting chart is how different markets are starting to overlap.  cubezzzNov 02 03:27
oiaohmIe phones embed desktop server and supers how they were about 10 years back and how they are today and how they will most likely look in the next 10Nov 02 03:28
cubezzzhmm, then you're getting into predicting the futureNov 02 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Without one I am unlikely to be able to complete a !NaNoWriMo Novel (or anything longer than a short story for that matter.)Nov 02 03:29
oiaohmNo more than I have before.Nov 02 03:30
oiaohmSome things are clear trends.Nov 02 03:30
cubezzz20 years ago is interesting too :)Nov 02 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I'm *jealous* ... Going in the ocean is a rx for treating sinus problems? They don't tell us that in landlocked Ontario.Nov 02 03:31
oiaohmLike the ceasing to use a different kernel in each of those markets.Nov 02 03:31
oiaohmOS X and Ipad and Iphone basically share the same core kernel design.Nov 02 03:31
cubezzzI can recall one big transition, the mini computer to microcomputer transitionNov 02 03:31
cubezzzwhich is more than 20 years ago...Nov 02 03:31
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oiaohmAndroid Meego and other Linux's are also sharing very much the same kernel.Nov 02 03:32
oiaohmAnd this kind of sharing is not going to stop.Nov 02 03:32
cubezzzthe next BIG transition was the portable stuff, yeahNov 02 03:32
oiaohmBig transition is the one you missed.Nov 02 03:32
oiaohmADSL routers.Nov 02 03:32
cubezzzyes, very importantNov 02 03:32
oiaohmWhat a basically min computers doing the network connection.Nov 02 03:33
oiaohmInstead of depending on desktop todo it.Nov 02 03:33
oiaohmADSL routers got the mass production going to make most of the portable suff.Nov 02 03:33
oiaohmThat is the thing some of the biggest changes have been the most invistable.Nov 02 03:34
cubezzzyes, dialup to broadband was bigNov 02 03:34
oiaohmEven in dialup modems.  The age of the winmodem is coming to the end as well.Nov 02 03:34
oiaohmLot more companies are now releasing full hardware modems again.Nov 02 03:35
oiaohmOther thing we can see as a confirmed trend.Nov 02 03:36
oiaohmIs the trend to the app store/repoistory for all OS's.  cubezzzNov 02 03:36
oiaohmThis is partly secuirty releated.Nov 02 03:36
cubezzzoiaohm, and before modem we had acoustic couplerNov 02 03:36
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oiaohmWhat I still have one.  cubezzzNov 02 03:37
cubezzzheh, do you actually use it?Nov 02 03:37
oiaohmhttp://www.konexx.com/koupler.htm  You can still buy them new cubezzzNov 02 03:38
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cubezzzinterestingNov 02 03:39
oiaohmUsage is not for data these days.Nov 02 03:40
oiaohmI find it handy for testing between handsets when I setup a phone exchange.Nov 02 03:40
oiaohmYes I have a pair of themNov 02 03:41
oiaohmTo be correct sending a digatial signal threw a voip phone is a nice way of stress testing it and causing it to fail if it has a intermitted fault.Nov 02 03:42
cubezzzrepositories seem to always get deletedNov 02 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The 2010 Kernel Summit http://lwn.net/Articles/412638/rssNov 02 03:42
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cubezzze.g. if I wanted to update fc1, I can't really use a repositoryNov 02 03:43
cubezzzso back to ./configure; make; make installNov 02 03:43
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oiaohmReally that is the nature of Linux.Nov 02 03:43
oiaohmPast a particular age its upgrade not update.Nov 02 03:44
cubezzzalso the continual increases in memory requirementsNov 02 03:44
cubezzzyesNov 02 03:44
oiaohmReally that is the other thing.Nov 02 03:44
oiaohmKDE is starting to trim down.Nov 02 03:44
oiaohmLot of projects are starting to cut back.Nov 02 03:44
cubezzzI don't think people are upgrading as muchNov 02 03:45
cubezzzI could be wrong thoughNov 02 03:45
cubezzzwith regards to hardwareNov 02 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Corexit fallout in Gulf http://ur1.ca/28t5dNov 02 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #hawaiifive0Nov 02 03:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Ted Ts'o: EXT4 Within Striking Distance Of XFS: There's just two months to go until the annual Linux.Conf.Au confe... http://bit.ly/9nRHFmNov 02 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @schestowitz It is saddening that so few people know the thuggish, unethical roots of #Facebook . Wonders of PR.Nov 02 03:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds is that show good?Nov 02 03:59
Ender2070you are wrong cubezzzNov 02 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.27.55 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.32.25 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.35.8 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101029 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 04:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Why The Recording Industry Is A Bad Investment http://bit.ly/bn4HY7Nov 02 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 04:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yea it is quite good actually. i had second thoughts about itNov 02 04:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The VLC-iOS license dispute and how it could spread to Android http://ur1.ca/28tftNov 02 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @brionv Clever... using JavaScript JIT compiler to speed in-browser emulators http://ur1.ca/28ti1Nov 02 04:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] trying to fix touchpad #sabayonNov 02 04:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: stop needless rainforest destruction http://ur1.ca/28tjfNov 02 04:47
cubezzzheh, still learning new things about old KDENov 02 04:52
oiaohmThat ext4 speed up is impressive.Nov 02 04:54
Ender2070lolNov 02 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Como o Twiter anda FASCISTA. Deixem a menina expressar suas ideias. Até que seja instalada uma ditadura aqui nesse país, a expressão é livreNov 02 05:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] http://identi.ca/conversation/57320913#notice-57839964 troll vs troll deathmatch!!!!Nov 02 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "... creators cannot sell their "intellect" ... they can only sell work performed using it. " ~ napalm !q http://ur1.ca/28tu7 !copyfightNov 02 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] resorted to creating an alias for tap for touchpad #sabayonNov 02 05:41
oiaohmhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/40513712/Google-v-US-Complaint  The games are starting to spreedNov 02 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Money motives behind Arizona Senate Bill 1070 http://ur1.ca/28ty0Nov 02 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @rms: Money motives behind Arizona Senate Bill 1070 http://ur1.ca/28ty0Nov 02 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: Shocker! Kids spending too much time in front of TV screens, too little in loving parents' embrace http://bit.ly/a2U5NLNov 02 05:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] kakakakakakaka http://ur1.ca/28u2lNov 02 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] installed !uboot on my !n900 for try out #meego 1.1Nov 02 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[brotherred/@brotherred] @schestowitz: Great first netcast, though I disagree with your stance on mp3 encoding/ distributionNov 02 06:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] IEEE Spectrum: Another Extremist+Engineering Data Point? http://ur1.ca/28u9dNov 02 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Boas noites pra quem fica...Nov 02 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] IEEE Spectrum: Car Thieves Love GM's Cadillac Escalade http://ur1.ca/28uafNov 02 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @brotherred My stance is that as secondary format in a FOSS-oriented site it's acceptable. Many of my files are MP3s.Nov 02 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening to #ambientNov 02 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: Google-branded Chrome OS smartbook launching this month? http://bit.ly/bKWO5iNov 02 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Urgent: a strong Volcker Rule) http://ur1.ca/28udyNov 02 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on #Apple : Control Freak’s Games, Cease and Desist http://ur1.ca/28uee !gplNov 02 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @quimgil MeeGo IVI setup by ICS at #QtDD10 http://flic.kr/p/8Q5bdg - featuring a QML app developed in a week using the Photoshop-to-c ...Nov 02 06:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] 33 Developers Leave #OpenOffice.org: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/11/01/185205/33-Developers-Leave-OpenOfficeorg !fsf !lp !lpitNov 02 07:06
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*schestowitz off to work, bblNov 02 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Hot on the heels of #Sherlock, another English classic updated for the #AfPak age: "Biggles Flies Remotely".Nov 02 07:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Racism in Israel) http://ur1.ca/28uutNov 02 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] From the "Someone actually agreed to have their name attached to such drivel?" department: is.gd/gByq2 #3rdlaw #fail is.gd/gByJGNov 02 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Google Sues The US Government For Only Considering Microsoft Solutions | Techdirt - ur1.ca/28v3aNov 02 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jwildeboer: Google Sues The US Government For Only Considering Microsoft Solutions | Techdirt - ur1.ca/28v3aNov 02 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Kick It Over Manifesto) http://ur1.ca/28vbpNov 02 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @jwildeboer Google Sues The US Government For Only Considering Microsoft Solutions | Techdirt - ur1.ca/28v3aNov 02 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @mostafada: today is !Fedora's dayNov 02 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: An open letter to the JCP Executive Committee calling for JCP reform. http://bit.ly/dgED8r >timely and spot-on.Nov 02 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Lost sight of #InboxZero over half-term - time to get it back :-) #GTD #Inbox0Nov 02 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Dear @support, why can I cross post to Twitter and not in either directions b/ween identi.ca & status.net acc.nts? I c'd pay for this feat.Nov 02 09:37
cubezzzok, episode #2 is doneNov 02 09:39
cubezzzhttp://maxhost.org/other/audio-blog-2.mp3Nov 02 09:40
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cubezzzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.comNov 02 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] This looks good. A (US-centric) resource for artistic free speech online - http://www.onlineartrights.org/ (via Art Fag City)Nov 02 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Ominous phenomena in Mali) http://ur1.ca/28vueNov 02 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "This blog post/essay/conference will criticize free culture for not being able to support artists like the old system couldn't."Nov 02 09:52
MinceR:>Nov 02 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Working at a university is a day job, too. Even if you identify your out-of-hours work as being a critic/thinker/whatever.Nov 02 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] RT @bbcradio3live What makes us happy? Here's what happened when Radio 3 polled the people #R3FreeThinking http://bbc.in/cUub8NNov 02 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I'm a mean, lean coding machine! [Middle of post cut for reasons of space.] I'm coding!Nov 02 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Alexandre Rosenfeld: Move to !Ubuntu http://goo.gl/pzieNov 02 09:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ryan lortie: #gtk hackfest summary http://goo.gl/DTEez "we plan to open up a #gtk4 branch as soon as gtk 3.0 is out the door." !gnomeNov 02 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Still don't get the fact that people think my accent is Indian. What's that all about? OoNov 02 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Community Escrow - A differentiating feature of open source it would actually be worth paying extra for: http://bit.ly/9eTnra [by me]Nov 02 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Sexism on the internet - http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/?p=1444 (The men in the comments acting out the cartoon are-well, they are...)Nov 02 10:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @davidmarsden: LSD and magic mushrooms are both safer than Minecraft, study reveals: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210Nov 02 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt .::. Size~: 59.83 KBNov 02 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] The OECD rates Canada's banks as safest in world; USA is 40th, 2 places behind Botswana; UK is 44th (via John Lanchester)Nov 02 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @webmink: Community Escrow - A differentiating feature of open source it would actually be worth paying extra for: http://bit.ly/9eTnraNov 02 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] using your computer while dist-upgrading it might lead to unpredictable consequences ;-)Nov 02 10:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "I'm an actor." "At which restaurant?" "I'm an artist." "At which faculty?" "I'm a musician." "At which garage?" #artsfundingbeforefreeNov 02 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Just say yes to environmental degradation) http://ur1.ca/28wbnNov 02 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @nyergler: A CC license is not a "lack of copyright": the CC license only works because a copyright exists. #OpenEd10Nov 02 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] a package manager for physical things - http://github.com/kanzure/skdbNov 02 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "POLICE ISSUE GUIDELINES ON HOW TO BEHAVE WHILE TRAPPED IN A WICKER MAN" - http://ur1.ca/28wddNov 02 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] ♻ @webmink on Community Escrow http://bit.ly/9eTnra - and why you want actual Free Software. Although you get this by default with @kolabsysNov 02 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm see, i think your "problem" is that you want yours to make sense. gave that up after my first. now it just has to have wordsNov 02 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm supposed to be. a long drive to neupheeville huh?Nov 02 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Seems someone tries to make money on the back of the Document Foundation http://documentfoundation.es NOT our official site #docufoundationNov 02 11:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bienvenidos a The Document Foundation! - The Document Foundation .::. Size~: 6.78 KBNov 02 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] You can join our next LibreOffice marketing conference call - let us know when! http://doodle.com/aweg6a5s6722binyNov 02 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Learn more about The Document Foundation and LibreOffice at the Congress in Munich: http://www.oookwv.deNov 02 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Rockbox 3.7 released http://lwn.net/Articles/412784/rssNov 02 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rockbox 3.7 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.66 KBNov 02 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Special unit will investigate) http://ur1.ca/28wubNov 02 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Interesting news about GLib and GTK+ 4.0Nov 02 12:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Reminder: Tomorrow's steering committee phone conference is public! http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_MeetingsNov 02 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sitting down to record two !LO specials back-to-back with @methoddan...Nov 02 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] One great !lca2011 speaker; Ted Ts'o is mentioned on phoronix: http://cli.gs/25G8En - Early bird regos are available for just 5 more days!Nov 02 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc1-git1 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 02 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jesus! Amazon is already advertising Dragon Age II. I already have my hands full with games as it is.... OoNov 02 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bear: if you don't vote you have no right to complainNov 02 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Interesting to know how !OpenSUSE deals with !MIPS on #OBS: http://is.gd/gC98y useful for our !Fedora portNov 02 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @dazfuller: 33 developers leave #OpenOffice.org http://ur1.ca/28v6o #outlawstoryNov 02 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Don't ask questions) http://ur1.ca/28xdeNov 02 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just my luck that. I waste time installing !Fedora 13, get used to my first #yum system, then I see F14 on the horizon. I shoulda waited!Nov 02 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I know I could upgrade, but it's my experience that clean installs always work best, on any systemNov 02 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: Install Apps from Terminal http://tinyurl.com/372wcfuNov 02 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] PC and Pixel: 2010-11-02: http://comics.com/pc_and_pixel/2010-11-02/Nov 02 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Evan Rosen (@GoCollaboration) posts: Taking Collaborative Risk at The State Department http://bit.ly/93LYjH #gov20 #culture #ideationNov 02 13:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Same old routine....back to work.....at least ill be having three days off starting Sunday.Nov 02 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Goldman Sachs Steal US$150 millions daily” -Max Keiser >when it's small they call it Madoff, when large they give it bailoutNov 02 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Koobface Trojancan infect !Linux, but it needs a lot of user support and disappears after a reboot...aha... http://ping.fm/XxCpHNov 02 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Got regular access to 3-Tesla scanner for research purposes (inventing new algorithms). Weirdly enough it's underused.Nov 02 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat near Key Resistance Area http://ur1.ca/28xk6 "$42.73 with the current price action" Freedom software not conflicting w/ capitalism.Nov 02 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Now using gwibberNov 02 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Now using !gwibber !gnomeNov 02 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes so we can record Sunday? !tbNov 02 13:12
schestowitzOh cool:Nov 02 13:14
schestowitzGroklaw put my dent in the front page (RTed by Rui)Nov 02 13:14
schestowitz"Nov 02 13:14
schestowitz#Nov 02 13:14
schestowitz# There is an anti- !Linux blog (disguised as pro-Linux) at linuxpatents.blogspot.com active around same time as fosspatents.blogspot.com - Rui Seabra, identi.caNov 02 13:14
schestowitz""Nov 02 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Rockbox 3.7 released [LWN.net] http://ping.fm/f0r2sNov 02 13:16
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schestowitzLet's check this..Nov 02 13:17
schestowitz"@FOSSpatents but you have avoided the subject. Do you know who /runs/ linuxpatents? I wrote that dent and said "active around", not launched"Nov 02 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mgeist Australia To Hold Three ACTA Briefings; Canadian officials still silent with no public briefings. http://bit.ly/a9rFGANov 02 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Election day today, polls open up in about hour and 45 minutes here in California.Nov 02 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Anyone having trouble accessing www.pwnage.ca ? My host might have cut me off.Nov 02 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] First !LO special in the can. Very freedom hating! :DNov 02 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz yep, no probs. I'll also have time to spend on polishing up the ogg/mp3 !techbytesNov 02 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Was offered to evaluate a laptop w/ win7 aboard. Operator seemed upset when told her I'm totally uninterested b/c of win7Nov 02 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Having searched and asked, I hereby declare that there are no ready-to-install Kindle GNU/LINUX distros.Nov 02 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh Why no F14 - too soon?Nov 02 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exploring #octave with #gnuplot and so far it's very good. !gnuNov 02 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moving From #MATLAB to #Octave http://ur1.ca/28xwp still hoping to move entirely off proprietary.Nov 02 13:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Moving From MATLAB to Octave .::. Size~: 51.63 KBNov 02 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] China Mobile Joins !Linux Foundation as Gold Member - MarketWatch http://ping.fm/acErMNov 02 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes most of the time was spent just learning #audacity yesterday, making reusable clips too. I forgot the noise filter! !tbNov 02 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China Mobile Joins Linux Foundation as Gold Member - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 69.18 KBNov 02 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Running #qtoctave and very impressed, hopefully matlab-free. [HT @matjan ] !gnu #octaveNov 02 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] nautilus-gksu extension for nautilus allows you to open files with administration privileges  | Ubuntu Geek http://ping.fm/WWWo9Nov 02 13:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] nautilus-gksu isn't in the Fedora repo - I'm guessing a it's incompatible, being a sudo front end?Nov 02 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] nautilus-gksu isn't in the Fedora repo - I'm guessing it's incompatible, being a sudo front end?Nov 02 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Fans roast Microsoft for Silverlight demotion • The Register http://bit.ly/dncKhFNov 02 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Top 5 Reasons Why Microsoft Completely Screwed up their web strategy with HTML 5 (Silverlight Hack): http://bit.ly/9qZ1djNov 02 13:59
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: PDC 2010: Top 5 Reasons Why Microsoft Completely Screwed up their web strategy with HTML 5 .::. Size~: 116.87 KBNov 02 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Big news as @stormy joins Mozilla and resigns from executive director of Gnome Foundation. http://ur1.ca/28y3o We need more ppl like her!Nov 02 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @magicfab: The multiple timelines integration in the latest !Mustard version seriously rocks!!! Thank you @macno < +1Nov 02 14:01
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dyfetno silverblight on the net is a good thing imho...Nov 02 14:01
MinceRm$ meddling with HTML5 is scary thoughNov 02 14:02
dyfetI noticed the very first complaint in that top 5 list is how do you replace browsers.  When you forcibly bundle a defective browser, I guess that is a hard problem ;)....Nov 02 14:03
dyfetFor the rest of the world, it's just a matter of not using that defective productNov 02 14:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http://ur1.ca/28y6eNov 02 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Roadmap for #Feedly v 5.0 http://goo.gl/bYMuNov 02 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In London, some train stations have WiFi. Paid WiFi that can't be used anonymously." -- @rms // yes, Oyster too. #policestate #bigbrotherNov 02 14:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Roadmap for Feedly v 5.0 | Building Feedly .::. Size~: 114.81 KBNov 02 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Interested in !MeeGo and you are from !China? Consider joining a Local Network: http://bit.ly/MeeGoChina http://bit.ly/MeeGoBeijingNov 02 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fedora Fedora 14..is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http://ur1.ca/28y6eNov 02 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Bleach 295 !animeNov 02 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @schestowitz RT @fedora Fedora 14..is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: ...Nov 02 14:11
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schestowitzFlorian: "@schestowitz I didn't plan to have more Twittersations with you. I don't know a thing about who's behind linuxpatents. No idea. #boycottboy"Nov 02 14:12
schestowitz"@schestowitz Also, I can't see "active around". That blog has had a very few updates so far, both before and after my blog started."Nov 02 14:12
oiaohmdyfet: MS thought they had won the browser war.Nov 02 14:13
oiaohmEveryone likes to forget MS at one point had 90 percent of the browser market.Nov 02 14:14
oiaohmEven with all MS money they have not been able to maintain that.Nov 02 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Still feeling like crud today. Got up for meeting but really would rather be back in bed.Nov 02 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada: "Second Reading for Bill C-32" http://ur1.ca/28y9g !copyright !billC32 #cdnpoliNov 02 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Correction: @storming joins Mozilla and resigns from executive director of Gnome Foundation. http://ur1.ca/28y3o We need > ppl like her!Nov 02 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Second Reading for Bill C-32 «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 32.17 KBNov 02 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana the tie with HP caused conflictsNov 02 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] San Francisco World Series Rioters 'Checking In' to Riots on FourSquare (Valleywag): http://gaw.kr/cBzC13Nov 02 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: San Francisco World Series Rioters 'Checking In' to Riots on FourSquare .::. Size~: 80.85 KBNov 02 14:19
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/29/silvio-berlusconi-officeNov 02 14:20
schestowitzLOLNov 02 14:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Silvio Berlusconi's office intervened on behalf of teenage girl suspected of theft | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 69.56 KBNov 02 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Community Escrow: I’ve written previously about the freedom to leave, but there’s another value delivered by the ... http://bit.ly/dxouNZNov 02 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 The same censorship of the vlc/crApple inbroglio ?Nov 02 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community Escrow « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 41.06 KBNov 02 14:21
dyfetNormally I would comment on that pig berlusconi, but I promised my good friend the Italian physicist Stefano Barlie that I would not compare people to animals...Nov 02 14:22
schestowitzAnimal abuse is taken seriously in ItalyNov 02 14:22
oiaohmreally pigs are quite clean and intellegt animals compared to some humans.Nov 02 14:23
dyfettrue, it would be an insult to them too...Nov 02 14:23
schestowitzwe may expect better gnu  linux  support from firefox  now that stormy is thereNov 02 14:23
schestowitzF***book censored pages about him IIRCNov 02 14:23
schestowitzOr maybe just YouTUbeNov 02 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @fedora Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http:/ ...Nov 02 14:27
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dyfetI keep thinking of laughin instead ;)  Not a slight about Fedora at all, just the name is too similar to me ;)Nov 02 14:28
schestowitzFedora ain't laughin!Nov 02 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @fedora Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http:/ ...Nov 02 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I wonder how the Archos 10.1" android tablet compares with the Galaxy Tab? http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/ #fbNov 02 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz Is it cheaper than mobile internet?Nov 02 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻@neurostech free software foundation introduces guidelines for FSF endorsed hardware bit.ly/agNUQa hopefully some Neuros devices will be inNov 02 14:29
dyfetI knowNov 02 14:29
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oiaohmFedora is the type of hat in the redhat logo.   dyfetNov 02 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fedora Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26truNov 02 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner too early to tell. Experimental now. I was at this station 3 months ago.Nov 02 14:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/28/obama-hope-all-hypeNov 02 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Obama hope was all hype | Tariq Ali | Comment is free | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 202.85 KBNov 02 14:32
oiaohmhttp://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#desktops  Something you do see talked about the 4 spins of FedoraNov 02 14:32
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dyfetWell, I never was never particularly fond of some of their other name choices either,  though at least they did not try to be the garanimals of operating systems...Nov 02 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] RT @fedora Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http:/ ...Nov 02 14:34
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dyfetBut name aside, fedora has always been excellent and at times even completely libre...Nov 02 14:34
dyfetI just wished they had kept a stronger policy on firmware blobsNov 02 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @fabsh: ♺ @fedora Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26tru < downloading...Nov 02 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Because we already had these two to record on top of the normals shows. I can only do so much...Nov 02 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana I am already running it! :)Nov 02 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !LO special episodes on !Fallout #NewVegas and the #Kindle 3 are in the can. Will be released over the next two weeks or so...Nov 02 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh yum install unity ?Nov 02 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] GNOME Executive Director resigns, joins Mozilla: http://bit.ly/9EoQAYNov 02 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Military wants to scan communications to find internal threats http://ur1.ca/28yj3 there is a real big threat -- a threat to our libertiesNov 02 14:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fabsh you're damn too fast ;-) And I will just test it on a virtualized machine later after work FTTBNov 02 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz rather. A nephew relocated to the East Coast, & a brother + two nieces on the other ocean, so i can look at pictures of oceans *sigh*Nov 02 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No terror arrests in 100,000 police counter-terror searches, figures show http://ur1.ca/28ybu so what? It makes us FEEL safer. /sarcasmNov 02 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz yeah, I'm weird that way ;DNov 02 14:42
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oiaohmdyfet firmware blobs get insanely tricky.Nov 02 14:43
oiaohmSome are closed due to regulations.Nov 02 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Fedora 14 Officially Released With New Features: "It's here! It's here! It's really here!" Jared Smith, the Fedo... http://bit.ly/cQlUJeNov 02 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Fedora 14 out: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_announcementNov 02 14:44
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dyfetI recall there was a fedora release or two, around fc6, where they had a stronger policy on non-free blobs....and one can always have a separately tagged non-free repo for such things.Nov 02 14:45
oiaohmSome are closed due to the fact they do power management on the card.Nov 02 14:45
oiaohmIe messing in there can burn the card out.Nov 02 14:45
oiaohmFirmware is a different cat.Nov 02 14:45
oiaohmfc6 has a lot of fully binary drivers.Nov 02 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released! Download now! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http://ur1.ca/28y6e | Feed the torrents! Yay!Nov 02 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] drowning in !fedora -related dents and tweets x-}Nov 02 14:46
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oiaohmAnd those today are still in the restricted non-free repo.Nov 02 14:46
oiaohmFireware images loaded into cards without restriction on shipping makes it into the normal free release of fedora.Nov 02 14:46
oiaohmHeck makers could place those on a rom chip on card and it basically would make no difference.Nov 02 14:47
oiaohmIe the x86 processor does not process them other than passing them to the device.Nov 02 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @carlopiana LOL. I've been beta testing.... :)Nov 02 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Kick-ass narwhal song by Weebl's Stuff: http://is.gd/gCr36 !ubuntu Thanks to !loNov 02 14:49
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dyfetI think Fedora could, if they chose it as a specific goal, have a fully libre distro (and I mean by how the FSF defines it also...).  They are actually not that far from being able to do so.  Nor is Debian either of course.Nov 02 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @JavaGlobalPR: Sorry for the lack of updates, we are preparing lawsuits against Java users to improve our quarter numbers #FreedomCostsNov 02 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Taking a break now. I am pretty hoarse now after talking for two hours straight....Nov 02 14:51
oiaohmThere is a lot of hardware that due to where it made and the regs in place that could never work with a fully libre distroNov 02 14:51
oiaohmLinux kernel firmware requirement is that it must be a transfer to card/device no cpu processing.Nov 02 14:51
oiaohmSo the firmware loader must be released open source not to be classed as a binary blob driver.Nov 02 14:52
oiaohmThis is about as close as you can get to libre distribution without causing some hardware makers trouble.Nov 02 14:53
oiaohmLegal trouble they cannot just work around.Nov 02 14:53
dyfetI think the real catch in the libre kernel question is the network driver.  You would at minimum need to be able to network if you must get additional drivers from a non-free repo to make your hardware work.Nov 02 14:53
oiaohmNot exactly network drivers.Nov 02 14:54
oiaohmWireless drivers.Nov 02 14:54
oiaohmAnd some video card with there firmwares due to paided for patents.Nov 02 14:54
dyfetWell, I recall some hardwired chips on laptops also have closed drivers.Nov 02 14:54
oiaohmBasically there are a lot of different issue.Nov 02 14:55
oiaohmSome are hardware warnitiesNov 02 14:55
oiaohmIe tamper with firmware that controls the device can fry it.Nov 02 14:56
MinceRbetter keep that firmware in ROM, thenNov 02 14:56
oiaohmReally its double sided.Nov 02 14:56
oiaohmATI cards have the master firmware in a rom.Nov 02 14:56
dyfetThat should not deny the freedom of someone the right to play with their own hardware and assume their own responsibility for the consequences if they so choose.Nov 02 14:56
oiaohmBut feature features get soft uploaded.Nov 02 14:56
oiaohmBy soft uploaded I mean into ram on the card that clears when the card is powered off.Nov 02 14:57
MinceRreflashing the firmware could work orthogonally to the kernel driversNov 02 14:57
oiaohmAgain flashing requires uploading features.Nov 02 14:57
MinceRthough that "soft upload" might be safer in the endNov 02 14:57
MinceRas long as it is guaranteed that malicious or buggy software can't access itNov 02 14:58
oiaohmsoft upload is safer less risk of dead hardware due to too many flashs.Nov 02 14:58
MinceRhaving some malware that destroys the card wouldn't be funNov 02 14:58
oiaohmAllowing flashing can allow that any how.Nov 02 14:58
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oiaohmBy providing the loader functions you are at least 1 step closer to being able to reverse it if you have to dyfetNov 02 14:59
MinceRit depends on what state is flashing allowed inNov 02 14:59
dyfetI do not believe users must be "protected" from exercising their own freedom and choices.  I think it is a very bad path to go down ultimately.Nov 02 14:59
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oiaohmThere is a line.  a blance that has to be struck  dyfetNov 02 15:00
oiaohmBetween the rights of the hardware maker and the rights of the end user.Nov 02 15:00
oiaohmYou want the hardware maker to provide warnarity yes?  dyfetNov 02 15:00
dyfetI would be happy to trade warranty protection for true freedomNov 02 15:01
oiaohmFor warnarity a price does have to be paid.Nov 02 15:01
oiaohmIe firmware not provide as source.Nov 02 15:01
oiaohmBut firmware should be provided with a licence allowing you to copy as much as you need.Nov 02 15:02
oiaohmAnd use as much as you need.Nov 02 15:02
oiaohmI call that a tolleratable trade.Nov 02 15:02
oiaohmThere is no such thing as true freedom.Nov 02 15:03
dyfetI simply do accept it is a present marketplace reality, I am not sure I would call it tollerable :)Nov 02 15:03
oiaohmAs soon as you start talking true freedom you normally start impressing in on someone else freedom.Nov 02 15:03
oiaohmThe hardware makers could always go back to old school.  Soild no accessable roms dyfetNov 02 15:04
oiaohmSomething in the hardware does not work dump it buy another.Nov 02 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Election day. Lots of last-minute political appeals.Nov 02 15:04
oiaohmRemember they have the freedom and the power todo that as well.Nov 02 15:04
dyfetThis is because most people do not culturally appreciate true freedom is responsibilityNov 02 15:04
oiaohmWhen you start talking about true freedom.Nov 02 15:04
oiaohmSo we have to comprosise.Nov 02 15:05
oiaohmBetween hardware makers want to keep secrets to prevent people destroying there hardware.Nov 02 15:05
oiaohmAnd people want to modifiy.Nov 02 15:05
dyfetcorrection, not people destroying "their", as in the vendors hardware, but rather doing things with the hardware "they" own...Nov 02 15:06
oiaohmFully open source OS drivers combind with a firmware that uploads so the card runs is a fair comproise.Nov 02 15:06
oiaohmWhile under warnirty do you fully own it.  dyfetNov 02 15:06
oiaohmAnswer no.Nov 02 15:06
dyfetAs I said, I would happily to trade and disclaim warrenty for freedom...Nov 02 15:07
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oiaohmI would more prefer to see when devices go end of warrenty by law the source to there firmware has to be released.Nov 02 15:07
dyfetNow that is an interesting idea!Nov 02 15:07
oiaohmThat way hardware makers are happy.Nov 02 15:07
oiaohmAnd people like you are happy.Nov 02 15:07
oiaohmWe have to comporise or its not going to work basically.Nov 02 15:08
dyfetThat idea I would have to think about :)Nov 02 15:08
oiaohmYes its hard being fair to both sides.Nov 02 15:08
oiaohmIts very simple to tunnel in on your side and forgot the problems the other side has.Nov 02 15:09
dyfetIn truth I think the problem is a cultural oneNov 02 15:09
oiaohmThe hardware one is that hardware guys know most humans are idiots.Nov 02 15:09
oiaohmAnd they will try to performance tweak or alter any setting they can get there hands on.Nov 02 15:10
oiaohmThen lie about the fact they did and attempt to get a replacement for the item they busted.Nov 02 15:10
dyfetAnd that is precisely what I mean by culturalNov 02 15:11
oiaohmNo that is human nature.Nov 02 15:11
oiaohmEvery culture world wide has liers.Nov 02 15:12
oiaohmWhat is the advantage of being a lier in a survale event.Nov 02 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: Continuent has also hired Giuseppe Maxia as director of quality assurance. http://bit.ly/azh9GO > congratulazioni, Giuseppe!Nov 02 15:12
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oiaohmSomeone else gets the blame for the food you ate.Nov 02 15:13
oiaohmSo you get more food so you are more likely to live if you don't get caught.Nov 02 15:13
oiaohmYes some of it is DNA coded in due to the ones that lived.Nov 02 15:13
dyfetAs to how and where it expresses itself varies greatly from cultures.  You have never I think experienced indigenous cultures.Nov 02 15:14
oiaohmI have experienced indigenous cultures.Nov 02 15:16
oiaohmYes culture effects how the lier trys to cheat and how they try to cover it up.Nov 02 15:16
oiaohmBut the core of why they are a lier does not change.Nov 02 15:17
oiaohmliering about not eating something is common across all cultures.  dyfetNov 02 15:18
dyfetSo the assumption is that since some behave badly everyone has to be treated badly?Nov 02 15:19
dyfetFor that is what I always see at the core of such an argumentNov 02 15:19
oiaohmDo you let everyone walk into a store and take what ever they like.Nov 02 15:19
oiaohmNoNov 02 15:19
oiaohmThere has to be rules.  Without rules people will cheat.Nov 02 15:20
oiaohmAnd disadvantage the ones that don't  cheat.Nov 02 15:20
dyfetThat gives me an idea for an interesting sociology experiment, what would happen if such a store existed...Nov 02 15:20
oiaohmSeen the results.  Stores like that have been tried here.Nov 02 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm there ya go then.Nov 02 15:21
dyfetwhere is here?  That sounds like a delightful place if they have such stores :)Nov 02 15:21
oiaohmIts very much like rationing food to make sure everyone gets a fair cut.Nov 02 15:21
oiaohmAustralia we have some stores for those who have heath care cards.Nov 02 15:22
oiaohmLot of the food in there is free.  Yes close to expire dates but free.Nov 02 15:22
dyfetWell, free as in gratius, at least ;)Nov 02 15:22
oiaohmYes there are limit on how much of particular items can be taken.Nov 02 15:23
oiaohmSome of it is for safety.Nov 02 15:23
dyfetsafety how?Nov 02 15:23
oiaohmBecaomse some people would take too much then end up eating expired food when there was not rules.Nov 02 15:23
oiaohmYes in danger there own lives.Nov 02 15:23
oiaohmThis is the problem the hardware makers have.Nov 02 15:24
oiaohmThat small percent of screw loss people can cost them a fortune in replacements.Nov 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NASA Auctions off Federally Funded Patents http://ur1.ca/28yyk Finally. A correct headline about the absurdity #nasa #fail #swpatsNov 02 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !freerunner A7+ 1024 rework e bass bug fixed, stilo, batteria originale microsd 2gb, cavo usb e alimentazione, custodia, 150e+sped. !lpitNov 02 15:24
dyfetSo because they can be trusted to be responsible for themselves, someone needs to be "responsible" for their freedom?Nov 02 15:24
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oiaohmUnfortunarly its true.  dyfetNov 02 15:24
oiaohmWe all hope that idiots like that don't exist.Nov 02 15:25
oiaohmThe problem is they normally don't just endagner themselves.Nov 02 15:25
oiaohmAlso those few insanely greedy also mean some of the saner people who don't need looking after also would miss out without rules as well dyfetNov 02 15:26
oiaohmGreedy people abusing hardware companies could put hardware companies out of business before you get to buy the good quality device they make.  dyfetNov 02 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] !freerunner A7+ 1024 rework-bass bug fixed, stylus, original battery, 2gb microsd, usb cable, charger, sleeve, 150euro + shipping !fsf !gnuNov 02 15:27
dyfetIn the United States very many are insanely greedy as a social and cultural reality, so this is something I do understandNov 02 15:27
oiaohmRules have to be there to protect companies and insanely greedy people.Nov 02 15:28
oiaohmI know what you call true freedom cannot exist and work even with 1 to 2 percent of insanely greedy people.Nov 02 15:29
dyfetBut where I differ is I have what I am sure you feel is an overly optimistic view of human potential.  That is a different of viewpoint I can accept.Nov 02 15:29
oiaohmI had you point of view before running a free food store.Nov 02 15:30
oiaohmFor 3 months then giving it up.Nov 02 15:30
oiaohmI was seeing too much I hated about humans from it.Nov 02 15:30
dyfetI will say while I have done many things, I have never ran a food store.Nov 02 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I always vote absentee. I can't imagine waiting to the last minute and then lining up and hoping I make it before the cutoff.Nov 02 15:31
oiaohmI have also been in worked with hardware designers.Nov 02 15:31
oiaohmAnd seen what a few rotten eggs can do over clocking cards and claiming they did not.Nov 02 15:32
oiaohmIt costs a lot of time and resources to prove that a card was not defective but had been tampered with.Nov 02 15:32
dyfetBut I still say it is a terrible argument to use collective punishment as a justification for problems with specific individualNov 02 15:33
oiaohmProblem is the cost of finding those individuals.Nov 02 15:33
oiaohmIt can get to the point that companies can go under because of it.Nov 02 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] It's gone dark! Switching on lights at 3.30pm - time to move office to Morocco?Nov 02 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris How The DMCA Is Restricting Online Radio In Ridiculous Ways - http://ur1.ca/28z1vNov 02 15:34
oiaohmSo either way we loss dyfetNov 02 15:34
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oiaohmIe companys go under that should not have.  We loss the items they would produce.Nov 02 15:34
dyfetThe problem with that path is that perhaps one should get rid of ideas like due process and innosense until proven guilty, for it is also far more difficult to get to truth about guilt than to simply punish everyone accused...Nov 02 15:35
dyfetI think expediency is always a very poor choiceNov 02 15:35
Diablo-D3dyfet: no, people deserve due processNov 02 15:36
Diablo-D3the problem is, the Bush administration damaged the concept of itNov 02 15:36
Diablo-D3the post 9/11 government treats people as guilty until proven innocentNov 02 15:36
Diablo-D3and theres also the ongoing problem of making laws about things that ARENT wrongNov 02 15:36
dyfetDiablo-D3: I was simply pointing out the wider social implication of what he said taken to it's logical conclusion...Nov 02 15:37
Diablo-D3dyfet: yes, something our fore fathers thought of 200 years ago.Nov 02 15:37
Diablo-D3nothing in the legal world has actually changed in the past 1000-2000 years.Nov 02 15:37
oiaohmRember what I said before warnirty you don't really fully own the device until that expires.Nov 02 15:37
Diablo-D3people want rights, governments take them awayNov 02 15:37
Diablo-D3oiaohm: I wouldnt say thatNov 02 15:38
Diablo-D3you just dont have the right to damage the device if you want to use the warrantyNov 02 15:38
dyfetI know he did not mean it quite that way, but sometimes you do have to think about how such memes can expand....Nov 02 15:38
oiaohmUnder warranty you always have restrictions on what you can do to it.Nov 02 15:38
Diablo-D3oiaohm: so, if you change the firmware, the device fails, and the company bitches, oh wellNov 02 15:38
Diablo-D3yes, you DONT have a right to damage the deviceNov 02 15:38
Diablo-D3this includes changing parts inside of it.Nov 02 15:39
Diablo-D3and yes, software is a part.Nov 02 15:39
Diablo-D3if you want to change the software, you accept the responsibility of maintaining the deviceNov 02 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] My 1st computer - the Ohio Scientific Superboard II. All of S$680 bought in 1980 - http://oldcomputers.net/osi-600.html #fbNov 02 15:39
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Diablo-D3the only companies I hate are the ones that make it abnormally difficult to change the softwareNov 02 15:39
oiaohmAnd to prevent damage from software hardware companies don't want to give up want is in the firmware.Nov 02 15:39
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, but thats a different issueNov 02 15:40
Diablo-D3not supporting advanced users is different than outright attacking themNov 02 15:40
Diablo-D3apple attacks them on iShit devices, ye generic android peddler merely doesnt support.Nov 02 15:40
oiaohmNot providing what is inside the firmware.Nov 02 15:41
Diablo-D3thats a different issue.Nov 02 15:41
oiaohmDoes not stop advanced users from reversing it.Nov 02 15:41
Diablo-D3if its not foss, _they dont have to_Nov 02 15:41
Diablo-D3and if there is anything actually important in it, we'll just replace it with something betterNov 02 15:41
oiaohmSo it really does not make freedom impossible.Nov 02 15:41
Diablo-D3freedom cannot be stoppedNov 02 15:41
Diablo-D3no matter how many laws, no matter how many lawyers, no matter how much you engineer somethingNov 02 15:42
Diablo-D3freedom is something that is utterly and totally humanNov 02 15:42
Diablo-D3its who we are as a speciesNov 02 15:42
oiaohmJust provides a good hurdle to stop the idiots from getting in there that will do something insane. most of the time.Nov 02 15:42
Diablo-D3if there is a challenge, we are compelled to surmount it.Nov 02 15:42
Diablo-D3oiaohm: thats all it should be.Nov 02 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Upgrading the desktop to Fedora 14Nov 02 15:42
Diablo-D3putting the fear of God into most of your user base is enoughNov 02 15:42
Diablo-D3the few that slip through really DO know what they're doingNov 02 15:43
oiaohmI do think that deprecated devices should be forced to release what is hidding in the firmwares.Nov 02 15:43
Diablo-D3I dontNov 02 15:43
Diablo-D3significantly depreciated devices should be thrown outNov 02 15:43
oiaohmFrom a long term maintaince point of view.Nov 02 15:43
Diablo-D3for example: I dont want the source to the controller in my VCR.Nov 02 15:43
Diablo-D3infact, my VCR has not been plugged in for about ten years.Nov 02 15:44
oiaohmMy VCR is dead.Nov 02 15:44
oiaohmSome items the release is useless because there are many of them.Nov 02 15:44
Diablo-D3anyhow, oiaohmNov 02 15:45
Diablo-D3there _is no long term maintence for an ipod_Nov 02 15:45
Diablo-D3it breaks, you toss it, you buy anotherNov 02 15:45
Diablo-D3its a toy.Nov 02 15:45
Diablo-D3no one seriously computes on them.Nov 02 15:45
Diablo-D3if you want that, you buy a 30 year support contract for IBM on one of their Z machinesNov 02 15:45
oiaohmOther main reason for the fireware's is maintaining examples of history.Nov 02 15:46
Diablo-D3dude, our real history doesnt contain source doeNov 02 15:47
Diablo-D3*codeNov 02 15:47
Diablo-D3much of it really is hand written assemblyNov 02 15:47
oiaohmYes I know the evil of making emulators from that stuff.Nov 02 15:48
Diablo-D3I ported zsnes to linux. I, too, know the utter fun.Nov 02 15:48
oiaohmDocumented asm is still better than raw machine code.Nov 02 15:48
Diablo-D3documented? bwahahahahNov 02 15:49
Diablo-D3real programmers did not have time to document thingsNov 02 15:49
oiaohmI know people say that.Nov 02 15:49
oiaohmBut there are two forms of programers.Nov 02 15:49
Diablo-D3ones who do, and ones who dont.Nov 02 15:50
oiaohmOne that writes maintainable code and one that does not write maintainable code.Nov 02 15:50
Diablo-D3like I said, ones who do, and ones who dont.Nov 02 15:50
oiaohmI know what code I prefer to work on.Nov 02 15:50
Diablo-D3I prefer to work on code that exists.Nov 02 15:50
oiaohmComments are helpful. to know how the code links up.Nov 02 15:51
oiaohmAnd hopefully not the comment.  "this is a hack I pray it works"Nov 02 15:51
Diablo-D3over the past 3 days Ive written about 600 lines of javaNov 02 15:51
Diablo-D3not one comment.Nov 02 15:51
oiaohmYou would have used sane varable names.Nov 02 15:52
Diablo-D3actually, its closer to wrote it one day, made it actually work over the next 2Nov 02 15:52
oiaohmAnd sane function names.Nov 02 15:52
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oiaohmI realy hate coders who love using true as 0 and false as 1Nov 02 15:52
Diablo-D3I have inner classes three deep.Nov 02 15:53
Diablo-D3_I have inner classes_Nov 02 15:53
Diablo-D3how many java coders actually use those legitimately.Nov 02 15:53
dyfetposix interfaces like to use 0 for success...Nov 02 15:53
oiaohmand failure depend on the function.  dyfetNov 02 15:53
dyfetyea...Nov 02 15:54
oiaohmposix likes screwing with you.Nov 02 15:54
Diablo-D3if you're returning error codes, yes, 0 is the correct value for successNov 02 15:54
oiaohmUnless of course you are coping a string.Nov 02 15:54
Diablo-D3if you're returning a new object/struct/whatever, then null is the correct error modeNov 02 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What a great article: Sheet Music & !Copyright Law (and I even feel the same way about Dexter) http://ur1.ca/28z7l !BillC32Nov 02 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @mgeist Australia To Hold Three ACTA Briefings; Canadian officials still silent with no public briefings. http://bit. ...Nov 02 15:54
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oiaohmAnd it returning how much copied.Nov 02 15:54
Diablo-D3null != 0Nov 02 15:54
Diablo-D3I dont care if null really does == 0Nov 02 15:54
dyfetthe problem in posix is failure is often indicated with -1, not an error code...Nov 02 15:54
Diablo-D3dyfet: depends if it uses a get error methodNov 02 15:54
Diablo-D3and technically, it returns "not 0"Nov 02 15:55
Diablo-D3you shouldnt check for -1.Nov 02 15:55
oiaohm0 respond when starting a thread is normally a failure.Nov 02 15:56
dyfetwell, some also return ranges of values, like read which returns number of bytes read, or -1 for error...Nov 02 15:56
oiaohmThis is the problemNov 02 15:56
oiaohmThere are no consistancy you can 100 percent depend on.Nov 02 15:56
Diablo-D3thatsnot a problem at allNov 02 15:56
Diablo-D3its your failure to understand the specificationNov 02 15:56
Diablo-D3if you return an object, and you have an error, you return nullNov 02 15:56
Diablo-D3if you return a count, and you have an error, you return zeroNov 02 15:57
Diablo-D3if you return an error code, and you have an error, return anything but zero.Nov 02 15:57
Diablo-D3this correct, logically.Nov 02 15:57
dyfetperhaps it is :)Nov 02 15:57
Diablo-D3the first two are things you want, the last is something you dontNov 02 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] No !fedoradesign team meeting today. Instead we'll meet in #fedora-social and celebrate the release of #F14!Nov 02 15:57
Diablo-D3thus, the logic of the return value is flipped for the last oneNov 02 15:57
Diablo-D3its extremely logical, and most APIs who function that way work that wayNov 02 15:58
oiaohmThe problem is there are always that 1 or 2 odd ones out.Nov 02 15:58
oiaohmForgot about opps that did not go right.Nov 02 15:58
oiaohmOne coder I got to hating and recoded his internal program.   He was using 666 for working.Nov 02 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz In a democracy, people call the shots. If the power of the people is diminished, it's usually hard to earn it back. Good ...Nov 02 15:59
dyfetI like that explanation a lotNov 02 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Is storing a copyrighted photograph in the human brain an involuntary felony? How about reproducing it from memory? Boyc ...Nov 02 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @DaHammerstein U.S. Gov´t : genes shouldn´t be patented. Important policy change. "Isolated genes part of nature". htt ...Nov 02 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Fedora 14 has been released: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora-all (Get it before your neighbour does!)Nov 02 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz "Control over your own life is freedom; control over others' life is power. I stand for freedom and against power." -- @ ...Nov 02 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] reading political shit for politics classNov 02 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laquadrature ⚠freedom of expression at risk⚠ #censorship #filtering : Answer the EU Internet directive consultation before Nov 5th h ...Nov 02 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laquadrature ⚠liberté d'expression en danger⚠ #censure #filtrage Répondez à la consultation sur la directive Internet avant le 5/11 ...Nov 02 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh Yeah I suppose you could have used the beta if you's had time. Nevertheless, I actually prefer reviews based on the release...Nov 02 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh So in a way I'm glad you didn't have time to to it yet :)Nov 02 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] absurd: Canadian Government reliance on proprietary software: Microsoft Silverlight needed to watch government online #FAIL #cdnpoliNov 02 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Six of the World's Most Useless Robots - (Asylum): http://aol.it/cmoBFyNov 02 16:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Japanese LibreOffice mailing lists are now available: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#JapaneseNov 02 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] initiating preupgrade to move my F13 x64 to F14 x64. #fbNov 02 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] hey @laurelrusswurm, you do that writing thing. Do you have any suggestions for how you can improve your pacing?Nov 02 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Seriously, http://www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com ? Genius. :-)Nov 02 16:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] !Glasgow are playing on Friday, also known as Bonfire Night; that might be interestingNov 02 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk If you want to make the story move faster, cut out stuff. (And when you're writing an outline, don't look at identica)Nov 02 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Well, I've also been running the RC for over a week now. That wasn't changed from what you can download today... ;)Nov 02 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ♺ @runa: RT @fedora Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released and available for immediate download! http://ur1.ca/26truNov 02 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] A big penis? Really??? You immature, silly people..... !lo !minecraftNov 02 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @laurelrusswurm oh yeah, those outline things exist........Nov 02 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And someone stole all my supplies. You fuckers.... !lo !minecraftNov 02 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @sarah_schmidt_ Bloc on #copyright bill: supposed to modernize law, but doesn't: all 3 opposition parties now want amendments #cdnpoliNov 02 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @sarah_schmidt_ Summing up #copyright bill debate so far: Govt has no parliamentary ally on digital lock provisions in bill #cdnpoliNov 02 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @methoddan: I've put out a whimsical song supporting everyone doing nanowrimo http://danlynch.org/nanoNov 02 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OpenOffice devs exodus to join LibreOffice for a more community inclusive approach http://bit.ly/dc4F35Nov 02 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh Yeah good point. I forgot about RCs - I've just moved to F13 three days ago - still getting used to RPM Yum etcNov 02 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Nano Song | danlynch.org .::. Size~: 15.1 KBNov 02 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] !FSF's @brettcsmith explains in more detail how the existing #Apple Store ToS (and related terms) contradict !GPLv2: http://ur1.ca/28zl0Nov 02 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] RT @plhw3org: HTML Working Group update slides: http://ping.fm/a9OsbNov 02 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The election results are in already (no, the JCP, not the US ones) and Oracle's candidate was rejected: http://bit.ly/afT06xNov 02 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've finally clicked with the !Fedora idea - the clue is in the core bit, I suppose - not nearly as much in installed by default as !UbuntuNov 02 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've finally clicked with the !Fedora idea - the clue is in the core bit, I suppose - not nearly as much installed by default as !UbuntuNov 02 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @bkuhn: FSF's @brettcsmith explains in more detail how the existing #Apple Store ToS contradict GPLv2: http://ur1.ca/28zl0Nov 02 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Hope you like it! :DNov 02 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth @reality: According to the Identithing database this is the first use of #freevil: http://ur1.ca/28zm6Nov 02 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] writing paper about social classes in America. whatever that means?Nov 02 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I'm liking it a lot actually, though I had a bad reason unfortunately, running away from Ubuntuone and UnityNov 02 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @webmink: The election results are in already (no, the JCP, not the US ones) and Oracle's candidate was rejected: http://bit.ly/afT06xNov 02 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @lh: "People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it." - awesome article from @govloop on Community Management http://bit.ly/9AGz02Nov 02 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @rahulsundaram !Fedora 14 "Laughlin" is released! Download now! http://ur1.ca/26tru | Full announcement here: http://ur1.ca/28y6eNov 02 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @momfer: Finished book review process for new #CiviCRM book for Packt Publishing. Will be released in January 2011. http://is.gd/gCzbjNov 02 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "mass exodus from #OOo as contributors join #LibreOffice" http://is.gd/gCGSO - #docufoundationNov 02 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Fedora 14 on my Acer Aspire One is #FTW - it all Just Works (tm).Nov 02 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Fedora 14 on a #Lenovo S10-3t with working touchscreen out of the box! Another #FTW!Nov 02 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is this http://goo.gl/w7KWf bad news for Liverpool @methoddan or just more politics and PR?Nov 02 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] OpenBSD 4.8 released http://lwn.net/Articles/412718/rssNov 02 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner That's not a bad reason, IMO...Nov 02 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I kinda like the way Google marks it's own sites malign occasionally - means they're playing it straight to meNov 02 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet another example of the #littleisland approach failing, this time #Silverlight http://bbc.in/b3Rrl5 !MSNov 02 16:57
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MinceRuse exceptions.Nov 02 16:58
MinceR:>Nov 02 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if the phrase "people are running away from Ubuntu and back to Linux" will become the norm in a few years?Nov 02 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "Toda A Unanimidade é Burra" - Nelson Rodrigues - Ainda bem que nossa presidenta não foi eleita unanimemente - Ainda há inteligência aqui.Nov 02 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #FTW - http://www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/Nov 02 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Now looks like TropStorm Tomas is going to become a hurricane and hit Haiti. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/Nov 02 17:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @jwildeboer: #FTW - http://www.whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/Nov 02 17:06
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gnufreexSchestowitz: I saw you are looking for Matlab replacement. If GNU Octave doesn't work for you... did you try Scilab?Nov 02 17:06
schestowitzyesNov 02 17:07
gnufreexOk, I thought you missed it.Nov 02 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 14 vs. Ubuntu Maverick: Distinct Differences http://ur1.ca/28zwy "Ubuntu usually has 20-40% more downloads" - Source?Nov 02 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People love to admire newspapers, but not only do they lack links, they do not even offer bibliography. They expect blind trust.Nov 02 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Announcing the release of Fedora 14 http://lwn.net/Articles/412845/rssNov 02 17:12
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schestowitzgnufreex: I'll give several things a goNov 02 17:13
schestowitzI might also use a combinationNov 02 17:13
schestowitz"oiaohm  Says: " http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2010/11/01/i-have-the-money-shot-for-my-lca-presentation/Nov 02 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] An Improved Experience With Qt Scene Graph: Just days after blogging about Gallium3D and the TGSI IR that could be... http://bit.ly/8YTLSWNov 02 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] ReadWriteMobile: China Mobile Joins Linux Foundation (& Why Developers Will Care) http://rww.to/cKyPYs via @sarahintampaNov 02 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz They rely on Wikipedia for fact checking. Biggest are owned by large corps, where cost-cutting trumps local newsgathering.Nov 02 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] guess you can't make everybody happy:http://ur1.ca/28zzv Funny Roberto never contacted us and helped #docufoundation @galoppiniNov 02 17:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Inside the OpenOffice.org coup | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 120.44 KBNov 02 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@reality re: "I would have thought it would be more of a difference" [b/w Fedora and Ubuntu downloads] - yes, so let's see the sources.Nov 02 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] US Gov't finally agrees that unaltered genes should not be patented. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/30/business/30drug.htmNov 02 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Did Washington stage a coup when he started the US independence war ? Did he ask each person if he should fight for them? #docufoundationNov 02 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@reality "Hmm, does either project publish raw download statistics?" ->I hope not, sites+distros mustn't give away private data 4 contestsNov 02 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Speaking of private data, while we can't give detailed info on !tb episode downloads, it's still as high as in the pilot. Next ep. on MondayNov 02 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] installing redhat 8 on a dell latitude w/ no networking capabilities, this is truly a bleeding edge system, kde 2 and allNov 02 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Hopefully tomorrow in Padua the flood will be over. I'll be in a panel to discuss !FS in Public Adm. invited by the local councilNov 02 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm it is how you go about selling it that can make all the difference...Nov 02 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @sarah_schmidt_ "30-day retroactive book burning" in #copyright bill is raised by NDP MP Julian raises it, Lib MP Simms says concernedNov 02 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Testing the new !mustard version...Nov 02 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @tekk http://ur1.ca/2906s troll vs troll deathmatch!!!!Nov 02 17:39
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schestowitz"@schestowitz: There is a good chance the "20%-40%" stat is a guess. However, most linux counts I've seen show Ubuntu with a strong lead."Nov 02 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @eebrah @schestowitz @reality I download and distribute by hand to large no of people. #ubuntu #fedora, Are download stats representa ...Nov 02 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@reality what I meant was source as in articleNov 02 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Creators can sell the fruits of their intellect, but the only way to sell the intellect would be to sell yourself into slavery (RIAA?)Nov 02 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "Se você pegar o mais ardente dos revolucionários, dar poder absoluto a ele, assim em um ano ele será pior do que o próprio czar." BakuninNov 02 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @pmctechblog @schestowitz: And I get that impression from http://is.gd/gpaxA and http://is.gd/gCOsLNov 02 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] WOW #rh8 detected my laptop's sound card and used it!!!! I have NEVER found any other distro or OS that did that.Nov 02 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh and apparently it comes with kde 3.00.00Nov 02 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ...drink tea that is. Damn SwiftKey... ;)Nov 02 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Esse é porrada... http://ur1.ca/290a1Nov 02 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad RT @quimgil #MeeGo IVI setup by ICS at #QtDD10 http://flic.kr/p/8Q5bdg - featuring a QML app developed in a week.... !linuxNov 02 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Photo of the KS photo session - http://is.gd/gCQ9KNov 02 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @matthewjones This is why you should turn off the stupid recovery partition on Windows. http://ur1.ca/290chNov 02 17:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/matthewjones-20101102T175252-9lbac33.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.33 KBNov 02 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] URGENT! NOW! Rally at Brandenburg Gate in #Berlin. 'Save Sakineh from execution!' #tpn #piracy via @antifaa @o_lucky_meNov 02 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I like how Gnotes dates the new note automatically for youNov 02 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] LibreOffice Japanese list & l10n team setup #libreoffice #docufoundation #communityworksNov 02 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “The Milky Way Over the Peak of the Furnace”: http://bit.ly/bR9BFhNov 02 18:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  APOD: 2010 November 1 - The Milky Way Over the Peak of the Furnace  .::. Size~: 4.3 KBNov 02 18:06
*schestowitz listens to cubezzz audiocastNov 02 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] F35 Joint Strike Fighter - The Biggest Procurement Mistake Ever http://bit.ly/b6UStwNov 02 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nice new audiocast from maxhost.org [mp3] http://ur1.ca/290hwNov 02 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm sure but it is how you go about selling the fruit that can make all the difference...Nov 02 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] yay, my first real stallmanism :PNov 02 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @appelond PC and Pixel: 2010-11-02: http://ur1.ca/290mdNov 02 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Productively lost in Cape Town: #POSSE goes South Africa http://ow.ly/33jBN #possesaNov 02 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @joseluis: RD @iurie Trisquel GNU/Linux 4.0 International DVD - http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-gnulinux-40-international-dvdNov 02 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] IE team has been donating test cases to #W3C but do they have ulterior motives? http://ping.fm/8EOGkNov 02 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/412836/rssNov 02 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Trisquel GNU/Linux 4.0 International DVD | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free! .::. Size~: 15.97 KBNov 02 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacker News | IE9 Outperforms Other Browsers for HTML5 Compliance .::. Size~: 42.84 KBNov 02 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tuesday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7 KBNov 02 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stormy Peters: Changing roles http://lwn.net/Articles/412875/rssNov 02 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My thoughts on #Apple's "success" http://goo.gl/9bOLNov 02 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Take: Why Apple may never reach the mass market and why it's so obvious .::. Size~: 33 KBNov 02 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ♺ @opensourceway: Productively lost in Cape Town: #POSSE goes South Africa http://ow.ly/33jBN #possesaNov 02 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] as you run through the #fedora installer for F14, please let me know any issues you run into! usability or otherwise :) thanks!Nov 02 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Updating !Emacs from bzr/git to see if the new !gnus code fixes my years-old "I'm going to mark your unread messages old now, mmmkay?" bug.Nov 02 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I'm sensing that your views on electoral politics are closely related to your views on software freedom. :-)Nov 02 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I am not sure. Why do you say so? My software freedom views are mostly unrelated to my other views, I thought.Nov 02 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I mean, in that you are concerned about the problem of corporate controlNov 02 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, Yes, that's definitely true. Perhaps my views aren't all that different. I've cultivated carefully thinking of them separately.Nov 02 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @johnsu01,I constantly hit C-u M-g in !Emacs Gnus summary to make sure I'm not missing anything. I never considered it a bug, strangely.Nov 02 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @bkuhn I never would separate my views on software freedom from other questions of human freedomNov 02 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] VLC developer takes a stand against DRM enforcement in Apple's App Store http://ur1.ca/28dnd !copyfight #DRM !fsfNov 02 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz true enoughNov 02 18:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VLC developer takes a stand against DRM enforcement in Apple's App Store &mdash; Free Software Foundation &mdash; working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.35 KBNov 02 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay Archos 10.1" does not pay Microsoft, Galaxy Tab does #ballnux #swpats !linuxNov 02 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apparently #Amazon’s #Whispernet network allows the #GSM device to bypass China’s online security http://goo.gl/GOjfZNov 02 18:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nifty: Kindle owners in China gain access to banned web pages .::. Size~: 93.79 KBNov 02 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn effectively, the two main parties are asking voters to assign copyright to them :-)Nov 02 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, that would not bother me so much if they made a binding promise back to never accept anything from lobbyists. :)Nov 02 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @fontana: @bkuhn effectively, the two main parties are asking voters to assign copyright to them :-)Nov 02 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I love !wordpressNov 02 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth @wftl: Interesting. If you install the 64 bit #Kubuntu, it preloads more extras and offers more options than the 32 bit. HmmNov 02 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 but if you don't vote the TERROR~1 win; you're supposed to participate in the charade of choice of preselected people+PR contestNov 02 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @ohnewein RT @mixare: a preview http://j.mp/96f6Va of the upcoming release #mixare #augmentedreality engine for android < coolNov 02 19:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: mixare Free Open Source Augmented Reality Engine  » Highlights of the upcoming release .::. Size~: 12.1 KBNov 02 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] First train full, second different route, third ends one stop short. #wtf tonight? Atm-mi #failNov 02 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Geek and Poke: Todo.xls http://goo.gl/Jb7HNov 02 19:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Todo.xls .::. Size~: 39.77 KBNov 02 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @sarah_schmidt_ Lib MP Simms has "trepidations" around digital locks bc companies control which platforms consumers can use #BillC32Nov 02 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: !Fedora 14 released with new features for developers http://goo.gl/D3ThNov 02 19:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 14 released with new features for developers  .::. Size~: 29.68 KBNov 02 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @juancarlospaco You like #KDE,but is too big for your resources?,try QLWM Pure-QT only minimalistic Desktop for !Linux !Ubuntu !Ubunt ...Nov 02 19:34
schestowitzgnufreex: your observation about linuxpatents is in groklaw front page, mobbyists denies itNov 02 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jamesm Photo of the KS photo session - http://is.gd/gCQ9K !linuxNov 02 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Summit 2010 Photo | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 79.88 KBNov 02 19:41
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gnufreexschstowitz: My observation?Nov 02 19:42
gnufreexCan you link it? I don't remember what it is about.Nov 02 19:43
Diablo-D3yes url plzNov 02 19:43
Diablo-D3I wanna laugh at gnufreex for being popular =PNov 02 19:43
schestowitzgroklaw.netNov 02 19:43
schestowitzno permalinkNov 02 19:43
Diablo-D3where on the pageNov 02 19:43
schestowitzI asked fauxpatentsNov 02 19:43
schestowitzAnd he said "groklie", "boycottboy" etcNov 02 19:44
Diablo-D3groklieNov 02 19:44
Diablo-D3lolNov 02 19:44
Diablo-D3thats a good oneNov 02 19:44
gnufreexschestowitz: I am not seing itNov 02 19:44
Diablo-D3I gotta remember that if I ever have to maliciously slur groklaw for fun and prophetNov 02 19:44
schestowitzfun and prophetNov 02 19:45
schestowitzoracle like big prophetNov 02 19:46
gnufreexGuys, really, I don't see anything I said on front page.Nov 02 19:46
Diablo-D3I dont see anything eitherNov 02 19:46
Diablo-D3where is itNov 02 19:46
Diablo-D3cough it up royNov 02 19:46
schestowitzEven if it means squeezing java to deathNov 02 19:46
NanonerdHi, sorry to bother, got a disturbing offer from my employerNov 02 19:47
Diablo-D3schestowitz: not seeing itNov 02 19:47
gnufreexHi, nanonerd.Nov 02 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Community Rights and Community Wrongs (The Standards Blog) http://lwn.net/Articles/412886/rssNov 02 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] wow...pigs started to fly! http://ur1.ca/291h3Nov 02 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Community Rights and Community Wrongs (The Standards Blog) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.18 KBNov 02 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C tests HTML5 browser compatibility, crowns IE9 the champ -- Engadget .::. Size~: 66.19 KBNov 02 19:47
schestowitzit's attributed to rui sabraNov 02 19:48
Diablo-D3schestowitz: dude, its not there, screenshot itNov 02 19:48
schestowitzIt doesn't matterNov 02 19:48
schestowitzNo permalinkNov 02 19:48
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schestowitzBut the thing is, the mobbyist got a little uncomfortable by that oneNov 02 19:49
gnufreexschestowitz: I really want to see it. What does it say?Nov 02 19:49
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.phpNov 02 19:49
Ender2070hey can you guys try to access my siteNov 02 19:49
Ender2070www.pwnage.caNov 02 19:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 32.59 KBNov 02 19:49
schestowitztitle: "# PJ: Breadcrumbs lead to Florian Mueller?  "Nov 02 19:49
schestowitzgnufreex: it's just my dentNov 02 19:50
schestowitzRTed by RuiNov 02 19:50
gnufreexAha.Nov 02 19:50
gnufreexI saw it.Nov 02 19:50
gnufreexTo bad it wasn't me.Nov 02 19:50
gnufreex:-)Nov 02 19:50
Ender2070is it loading at all?Nov 02 19:53
NanonerdMy employer, a major medical company, is offering ms office 2010 for eu. 12.95 to all employees for private use.Nov 02 19:53
schestowitzNanonerd: GE HEalthcare?Nov 02 19:54
Ender2070I can ping the server and it loaded one of my client sites extremely slowlyNov 02 19:54
Ender2070i might be under a ddosNov 02 19:54
schestowitzGE appears to be moving from Windows to !gnu ☛ !linux ☛ on some of their equipment, I learned todayNov 02 19:54
schestowitz"Where did you learn that from?" --someoneNov 02 19:54
schestowitzThey get to intrude people's livesNov 02 19:54
schestowitzSome people in this channel work for this company..Nov 02 19:55
NanonerdNo, Medtronic, totally locked into MS, even in productsNov 02 19:55
schestowitzCan't be for longNov 02 19:55
schestowitzLook what Stux* did to SiemensNov 02 19:55
schestowitzEven Phillips goes for Linux graduallyNov 02 19:56
schestowitzPhilipsNov 02 19:56
schestowitzAnd both them and GE (and Siemens) lobby for swpats in EUNov 02 19:56
MinceRge lobbies for swpats? reference pleaseNov 02 19:56
MinceRi want to know more about these assholesNov 02 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @techmeerkat Law firms should note this interesting article “@LawPracticeTips: Social-Media Policies for Law Firms http://bit.ly/dm9pcr”Nov 02 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Law Practice Today | October 2010 .::. Size~: 62.75 KBNov 02 19:59
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NanonerdOffering ms office 2010 "to get used to the new interface we will be introducing later", the mere bs.Nov 02 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Realtime Sunlight Wallpaper Sets Your Wallpaper To An Image Of Earth's Sunlight/Darkness http://bit.ly/98edWANov 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @bkuhn: FSF's @brettcsmith explains in more detail how the existing Apple Store ToS contradict GPLv2: http://ur1.ca/28zl0Nov 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Finished !emacs update, took about an hour to sort through weirdness in migrating my !gnus nnimap server configs but seems to be working nowNov 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Apple may never reach the mass market and why it's so obvious http://ur1.ca/291ly "and there never will be"Nov 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel Summit 2010 group picture http://lwn.net/Articles/412889/rssNov 02 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Realtime Sunlight Wallpaper Sets Your Wallpaper To An Image Of Earth's Sunlight/Darkness ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 68.43 KBNov 02 20:01
gnufreexnanonerd: Did you look if you can find a better job?Nov 02 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Take: Why Apple may never reach the mass market and why it's so obvious .::. Size~: 33 KBNov 02 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Summit 2010 group picture [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.1 KBNov 02 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk copyleft: all rights PreservedNov 02 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 99 dents!Nov 02 20:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan new business doing too well? :-)Nov 02 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] congrats to the Fedora team for releasing Fedora 14! You can download it from http://is.gd/gD7vG #fedoraNov 02 20:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora Project .::. Size~: 16.77 KBNov 02 20:06
schestowitz<MinceR> ge lobbies for swpats? reference pleaseNov 02 20:08
schestowitzHold on...Nov 02 20:08
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/05/02/general-electric-for-sw-pats-in-eu/Nov 02 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: General Electric Joins Microsofts Fight Against Free Software | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.15 KBNov 02 20:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/11/23/dirty-laundry-at-general-electric/Nov 02 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: General Electric (GE) Attacks Free Software, Microsoft Style | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.51 KBNov 02 20:09
MinceRthxNov 02 20:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/12/02/second-version-of-the-eif/Nov 02 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More Complaints About EIFv2 Abuse and Free Software FUD from General Electric (GE) | Techrights .::. Size~: 108.77 KBNov 02 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk or, as I wrote in pt_BR years ago: Copyleft: for all, rights preservedNov 02 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Fedora 14 released with new features for developers http://ur1.ca/291o0 !fedoraNov 02 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 14 released with new features for developers  .::. Size~: 29.75 KBNov 02 20:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2009/12/02/pack-of-lies-nbc/Nov 02 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GE, Microsoft, Comcast and (Microsoft AstroTurf at) Twitter: Pact of Lies | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.39 KBNov 02 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @lxoliva @tekk copyleft: all rights PreservedNov 02 20:11
MinceRi didn't know ge was such scumNov 02 20:11
hazzyWellNov 02 20:12
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hazzyIt was founded by one of the biggest capitalists of the 19th centuryNov 02 20:12
hazzyEdisonNov 02 20:12
MinceRafaik edison wasn't just a capitalist, he was also an assholeNov 02 20:12
hazzyYesNov 02 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @tekk once again. I couldn't fellow the context.Nov 02 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone else expect MS to try and shmooze their way into the new document foundation to "steer" it onto the rocksNov 02 20:12
hazzyCapitalist, assholeNov 02 20:13
hazzyLittle differenceNov 02 20:13
MinceRactually those terms are orthogonal to each otherNov 02 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram not really, just PR. http://ur1.ca/23bi0Nov 02 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, Seems IOTTMCO; I'm quite surprised you're undecided about it. What part makes you so unsure #Apple seeks to restrict freedom?Nov 02 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] they did decide ODF was perfectly legit after all #ooxml #iso #corruptionNov 02 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RD @bkuhn: FSF's @brettcsmith explains in more detail how the existing Apple Store ToS contradict GPLv2: http://ur1.ca/28zl0Nov 02 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsofts Vista Phone 7 [sic] Disregards the World Wide Web | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.73 KBNov 02 20:14
MinceRthough it's true that apparently in the USA publicly traded companies have an obligation to the stock holders to be as unethical and immoral as they can get away with in the pursuit of profitNov 02 20:15
MinceRi'm not sure if it's true elsewhereNov 02 20:15
hazzyPoint madeNov 02 20:15
MinceRs/obligation/legal &/Nov 02 20:15
dyfet_as unethical as they can make the law allow ;)Nov 02 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Upload Files To Multiple File Sharing Hosts Using Neembuu Uploader http://bit.ly/92AgVdNov 02 20:16
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MinceRwell, i haven't seen a lawsuit stating that a publicly traded company should have bought certain laws, yet :>Nov 02 20:16
schestowitz[20:12] <MinceR> afaik edison wasn't just a capitalist, he was also an assholeNov 02 20:17
schestowitzHe 'stole' other people's ideaNov 02 20:17
schestowitzPut a ribbon on thmNov 02 20:17
schestowitzpatented themNov 02 20:17
schestowitzDId RPNov 02 20:17
schestowitzPRNov 02 20:17
Diablo-D3'stole'? dudeNov 02 20:17
Diablo-D3look at what he did to teslaNov 02 20:17
schestowitzkind of like a chubby version of PearlyGNov 02 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn the part where I am supposed to be giving opinions on a legal document I have had no time to study thoroughly enough firsthandNov 02 20:17
Diablo-D304:14:08] <MinceR> well, i haven't seen a lawsuit stating that a publicly traded company should have bought certain laws, yet :>Nov 02 20:18
Diablo-D3MinceR: you know, technically, someone could sue and win over thatNov 02 20:18
Diablo-D3if its illegal but they can get away with it, they pretty much have toNov 02 20:18
MinceR:>Nov 02 20:18
MinceReven if it's illegal?Nov 02 20:18
MinceRthe court lets the stockholders get away with that?Nov 02 20:18
Diablo-D3not only because law mandates it, but because everyone else has done in FOR THE PAST 200 FUCKING YEARSNov 02 20:18
Diablo-D3dude, the courts FLIP COINSNov 02 20:19
schestowitz[20:16] <dyfet_> as unethical as they can make the law allow ;)Nov 02 20:19
schestowitzThey have lobbyistsNov 02 20:19
schestowitzAnd mobbyistsNov 02 20:19
schestowitzSo they bend the lawNov 02 20:19
Diablo-D3you know, the word mobbyistNov 02 20:19
Diablo-D3I dont like itNov 02 20:19
Diablo-D3it implies they're intelligent enough to form mobs.Nov 02 20:19
schestowitz"This sure is unethical (and profitable), but is it legal yet?"Nov 02 20:19
Diablo-D3they're more like sheepNov 02 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @osamak sorry, I'm used to typing @name instead of hitting replyNov 02 20:19
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schestowitzlowering wages, polluting overseas, dodging taxes...Nov 02 20:19
MinceRthey're a swarmNov 02 20:19
Diablo-D3baaaaah buy microsooooooftNov 02 20:19
MinceRzombiesNov 02 20:20
Diablo-D3only if they're micheal jackson zombiesNov 02 20:20
schestowitzNow thy have human-lie right tooNov 02 20:20
schestowitzLike sponsoring a political party fullyNov 02 20:20
MinceRthey come with a plastic nose to cover up the place of the original one?Nov 02 20:20
Diablo-D3there is nothing more awesome than than a bunch of people doing thriller perfectlyNov 02 20:20
schestowitzWhat's next? Right of free speech?Nov 02 20:21
schestowitzIf I insult a company, can it sue me?Nov 02 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn to be clearer, I have no doubts Apple is seeking to restrict Freedom. Only I can't assess if they are violating the gpl here.Nov 02 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Do you live in Petaluma, California? Go vote for @jezra! @leolaporte, looking at you! ;)Nov 02 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, I'm confused: you just gave an opinion, which I was responding to & your answer was "I cannot give an opinion". Circular logic?Nov 02 20:21
schestowitzDiablo-D3: there's a show in London now called Thriller LiveNov 02 20:22
schestowitzI went to itNov 02 20:22
Diablo-D3btw, yes, if you insult a company they CAN sue youNov 02 20:22
Diablo-D3libel =PNov 02 20:22
schestowitzYou know I say?Nov 02 20:23
schestowitz** em :-)Nov 02 20:23
schestowitzIt's not a personNov 02 20:24
schestowitzIt's a logo and a posse around itNov 02 20:24
hazzyIn the US, that's still up for appealNov 02 20:24
schestowitzFinding way to extract power by leverage over people who may or may not belong to another possNov 02 20:24
schestowitz*posseNov 02 20:24
cubezzzI doubt you would get sued just for expressing your opinionsNov 02 20:25
cubezzz"I don't like microsoft's policies"Nov 02 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn wrong. I gave an opinion (not new) on a legal analysis of what the gpl says != How it applies to a specific caseNov 02 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: #Zeitgeist 0.6 and Zeitgeist-Sharp are out! http://goo.gl/M4bZNov 02 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fork off: mass exodus from OOo as contributors join LibreOffice (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/412893/rssNov 02 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seilo @ Geeky Ogre  » Blog Archive   » Zeitgeist 0.6 and Zeitgeist-Sharp are out! .::. Size~: 18.26 KBNov 02 20:26
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dyfet_That is what is called slapp lawsuitsNov 02 20:26
cubezzz"My opinion is.... blah blah blah"Nov 02 20:26
schestowitzblah blah blah=?Nov 02 20:27
schestowitzYou can put lots of things in there :-)Nov 02 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, Saying you'e undecided *is* giving an opinion of the specific case. Publicly saying you haven't decided is still commenting.Nov 02 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] [witty expression here]Nov 02 20:27
cubezzzthere are limits to everythingNov 02 20:27
MinceRexcept corporate greedNov 02 20:28
schestowitzthat too has its limitsNov 02 20:29
MinceRwhere?Nov 02 20:30
schestowitzThere are no infinities except in theoryNov 02 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @agentsmith Probably ddos'ed its responding extremely slowNov 02 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #NaNoWriMo actually has inspired to work on the outline of my eternal novel again. I blame @jezra and @methoddan. And I #blamepopey too...Nov 02 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Happy release day #Fedora 14! !fedora !linuxNov 02 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] On a sidenote, TextRoom is awesome! If you're doing #NaNoWriMo, check it out...Nov 02 20:36
gnufreexLarry reaches for his pocket again http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/database_apps/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=228100031&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_NewsNov 02 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn I beg to differ, thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify my thought & intentions.Nov 02 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Thanks! :)Nov 02 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! ♺ @nailuj: @b1ackcr0w Try Fedora 14. It is... eh... awesome? And very cool!Nov 02 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Red wine and TextRoom. Laterz....Nov 02 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Thx to @jzb for this deeper look at new Self Assessment Checklist: http://bit.ly/9Hddd2 #linux #opencomplianceNov 02 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] So, !lo, you know how you can #blamepopey for ubuntu? Who do you blame for the kernel? Greg KH? :PNov 02 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Apologies for my use of a swear word in a post yesterday, one too many shots of my biannual bottle of rum, no excuses.Nov 02 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Gawt! The Twitter interface SUCKS. That just BTW.... :/Nov 02 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I think @carlopiana is saying he hasn't had an opportunity to examine the facts, but that @brettcsmith is correct on the law :)Nov 02 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @fabsh What do you hate about it? I thought bits of it were pretty neat...Nov 02 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @dandart It sucks. can't find what I want. Wastes space. Looks ugly. It's a piece of crap. Why doesn't Twitter just die...Nov 02 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @fabsh I dunno what's with mine... maybe cos I'm downloading Fedora and it doesn't like downloads?Nov 02 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @fabsh Yeah, kill it. Destroy all the microbloggers who don't know about identica! No more advertising your lunch to ME!Nov 02 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana you are obviously so much better than I am at explaining myself. That's correctNov 02 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] diaspora is fashion these days. OOo has developers diaspora towards LO; M$ faces execs diasporaNov 02 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] $this->this->this->that->that->that->ohMyGod()->whatDoWeHave();Nov 02 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Times UK Lost 4 Million Readers To Its Paywall Experiment http://ur1.ca/2923iNov 02 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Look at @reality - doesn't it remind you of something? Guess not.Nov 02 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] for my next magic trick, I'm going to install fedora 14 on a laptop from 2001........Nov 02 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] wants to play a game. Anyone up for a game?Nov 02 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] DD @faconti: RT @caribe: Conseguiram piorar o AI5.1. O log de webmail, portais, blogs e site tb deverão ser guardados http://bit.ly/cZr0wNNov 02 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Artigos polêmicos do Projeto de Lei sobre crimes digitais ganham nova redação - Segurança - IDG Now! .::. Size~: 63.8 KBNov 02 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @faconti: RT @cecilia_tanaka Nova versão do comparativo do @internetlegal sobre alterações principais do PL 84/99 http://zapt.in/UVRNov 02 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] LOL ML2MST Phoenix Telnet BBS is up and running and I made it as #gnu #linux friendly as possible.Nov 02 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I encourage Windows users to use Hyperterminal and GNU/Linux users to use QTerm (other Linux terminals don't support Zmodem downloads).Nov 02 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ML2MST Phoenix is available at: ml2mst.dyndns.org Don't expect too much of it though, it's still in its very early stages. NO LIMITS btw!Nov 02 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Please take a look at this screenshot for preferable QTerm Preferences: http://twitpic.com/33bwiyNov 02 21:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Roy, I meant to say, I'm hosting !techbytes with mediafire.Nov 02 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva prefer crawling the gophernet?Nov 02 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @ml2mst hi marti, hope you are well.Nov 02 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @ml2mst ill definitely check it out, I'm doing a bbs feature soon!Nov 02 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes yes, I saw that. On !techrights server too (excluding the cache) we're also at around 1000 downloads of !tb episode 1 so far!Nov 02 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's official, over 5% of !Ubuntu Members are women! Hajni is the 32th female ubuntu member. http://goo.gl/ZgxZ !ubuntuhu #locoteamsNov 02 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] RT @thisfred Refactoring your own old code means having to say "I was young, I needed the money..." constantly.Nov 02 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 02/11/2010: !GNOME Executive Director Resigns, Ted Ts’o on EXT4, Fedora 14 and #OpenBSD 4.8 Released http://ur1.ca/292cwNov 02 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zeitgeist-Sharp Brings Mono to !GNOME http://ur1.ca/292hu #monoNov 02 21:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] plymouth is working...Nov 02 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] see the last ever live Lugradio performance at http://is.gd/gDjni - thanks to @tonywhitmore for the editing! #lugradioNov 02 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I'm hoping we can cover a little silverlight on Sundays show have you got a guest in mind?Nov 02 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes Wayne or Marti !tbNov 02 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I prefer stuff delivered to my inbox or equivalent, so the info remains under my control indefinitelyNov 02 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes actually, I had Silver Lie written down as something to cover of Monday, but we had so many other things to ramble about it.Nov 02 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes s/it//. And also, I only had 3 items to cover. Silver Lie was the main one in the news, that's allNov 02 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @carlopiana, I understand your pt. I hope you take the time, b/c having your studied opinion would be most helpful. @fontana, what's yours?Nov 02 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] A report from OpenSQLCamp http://lwn.net/Articles/412307/rssNov 02 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] #F14 up to date. I guess I'm running the released version now....Nov 02 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] you know, I really don't think !linux had a huge part in free software systems, if it didn't exist we'd probably be using a !bsd kernel...Nov 02 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz:Links 02/11/2010:!GNOME Executive Director Resigns, Ted Ts’o on EXT4, Fedora 14 and #OpenBSD 4.8 Released http://ur1.ca/292cwNov 02 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] WTF? Optimus Fibra não tem tráfego ilimitado? E passam a vida a melgar-me! Arrrreeee!!! Prefiro continuar com ADSL deles!Nov 02 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] 5% of Ubuntu members are now women - http://is.gd/gDlqm - still awfully low, but great work from Ubuntu Women! #ubuntuNov 02 21:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz you read my mind! I was just thinking about Marti if Wayne wasn't available!Nov 02 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I'm actually in the same situation as @carlopiana :-)Nov 02 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ♻ @jonobacon 5% of Ubuntu members are now women - http://is.gd/gDlqm - still awfully low, but great work from Ubuntu Women! #ubuntuNov 02 22:04
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hazzyhttp://mashable.com/2010/11/01/dries-buytaert-interview/Nov 02 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Elizabeth Krumbach: It’s official, over 5% of !Ubuntu Members are women! http://goo.gl/PIoZNov 02 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon Is that as good as proprietary software, or better, or worse?Nov 02 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst will you be able to join us for a future show of !tb possibly next week?Nov 02 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I commented on "Over 5% of Ubuntu Members are women!" http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=3651#comment-3159Nov 02 22:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Using the official Chrome repos on Fedora again. Sorry, but I need constant updates. The chromium repo was too buggy...Nov 02 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] wow, that actually worked O.oNov 02 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Does #Microsoft (Pretend to) Speak for Small Businesses in Europe? http://ur1.ca/292tj #eu #swpats #lobby #belgiumNov 02 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I've confirmed I'll give the closing speech at SFSCON in delightful Bolzano on November 12: http://2010.sfscon.it/Nov 02 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, well, I hope both & @carlopiana will study the facts & comment; your opinions would be very valuable to the discussion.Nov 02 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Almost home.....Nov 02 22:22
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hazzyApparently, IE9 is the top browser for HTML5 -- what is Microsoft up to?Nov 02 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] N900 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexandrezulu/4993938029/Nov 02 22:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ROFL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlQY1eKYQ70 m( #RonBurgundyNov 02 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @webmink I look forward to that, see you in bzNov 02 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Work tomorrow.... @methoddan please ping me when that file is uploaded. Thanks!Nov 02 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Some thoughts on over 5% of Ubuntu Members being women - http://is.gd/gDpWG #ubuntuNov 02 22:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh you think monopoly-introduced terms such as piracy and IP are failures to influence language?Nov 02 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh ever heard of Sanskrit and how it was designed by an elite to keep others out of the knowledge loop?Nov 02 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I just build my first RPM from source to SRPM to RPM and installed it. !Fedora !Linux thanks @kwizart next stop rpmfusion repo !disperNov 02 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @silner: better than OSS which is 1.5% but worse than proprietary which is 28%Nov 02 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Fedora upgraded to version 14 flawlessly. Congratulations and thanks to everyone who worked on it. :-)Nov 02 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] I want me some Unity with Compiz - I am assured by Neil and co that it is coming soon, and that it is much faster :-) #ubuntuNov 02 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Over 5% of !Ubuntu Members are Women. Rock and Roll. http://goo.gl/piWQ3 !ubuntuhu #locoteamsNov 02 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @jonobacon Yeah Liz K was just telling me. 23% really is a shocking difference. Lets hope that gap closes. I never realisedNov 02 22:44
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schestowitzoiaohm: seen your comment sin Ts'o blogNov 02 22:44
oiaohmI had to ask.Nov 02 22:47
schestowitzokNov 02 22:47
oiaohmTs'o always fails to mention what level his work has effected.Nov 02 22:47
oiaohmI have asked in in the past on mailing list.Nov 02 22:47
oiaohmI think this is the first time Ts'o has used blog for major alteration.Nov 02 22:47
oiaohmYes latter comment the alteration is very invasive.  So I am going to stick to ext3 a little while longer.Nov 02 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] 'The Walking Dead' won't disappoint Romero zombie film fans. Loved every minute and don't know if I can survive without sleep for one week.Nov 02 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @magicdrums @juancarlospaco: Test your #DNS Servers on any Platform: http://ur1.ca/hn84Nov 02 22:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Just been to my local GNU/Linux User Group meeting. Which was fun.Nov 02 22:52
MinceRgnNov 02 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] “Should governments promote open source software?” http://is.gd/gDsOo !fsfeNov 02 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turquoise trading shutdown may have been sabotage, LSE says http://ur1.ca/2932jNov 02 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why 'Back to the Future' Is Secretly Horrifying http://ur1.ca/2932lNov 02 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I love identi.ca (and StatusNet...) :-)Nov 02 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The link to that London Stock Exchange halts [postpones really] !Linux migration story: lets try again http://goo.gl/RvNYNov 02 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] At PLUG I helped with SAMBA and XTest, and showed off my Nexus One (Linux Kernel.... ;-) ).Nov 02 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amiga, Inc. Selling Amiga Trademark | OSNews http://ping.fm/JQITPNov 02 23:04
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hazzyIt is imperative that the Republicans do not gain the majority after todayNov 02 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] How did it suddenly get so late #CivIVNov 02 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Canonical is running a survey about your ideal Linux workstation - join in at http://is.gd/gDueG #ubuntuNov 02 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Glenn Beck = The Joker⌨ http://ur1.ca/2934lNov 02 23:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] When asked how hard a programming task was at PLUG I had to find out which languages the asker knew. Divide by zero error resulted.Nov 02 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Glenn Beck = The Joker http://ur1.ca/2934lNov 02 23:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] I just installed #flashblock for the first time in !firefox. Thus far my CPU is thanking me.Nov 02 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Greetings everybody! With only 4 days left to get an !lca2011 Early Bird rego, shouldn't you purchase yours? Wouldn't want to miss out!Nov 02 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @webmink: [Free Software] Compliance Is Not A User Issue - Reject The FUD: http://bit.ly/d0rsiD [by me] /RD there, fixed ;-)Nov 02 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'll probably update to !Fedora 14 tomorrow, when I get plugged in. Updating over mobile internet is a hopeless taskNov 02 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] !needsleep good night everybody in this timezone :-)Nov 02 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink nothing in the OSD would prevent a contract demanding user compliance while still correctly naming it OSSNov 02 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink now, per the FSD, under such requirements, software would cease to be FSNov 02 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Enabled Gnome 3 look&feel preview in Fedora 14. You know why.Nov 02 23:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] F35 Joint Strike Fighter - The Biggest Procurement Mistake Ever http://bit.ly/b6UStw #cdnpoli (forgot the tag first time)Nov 02 23:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Any idea when kmod-catalyst is coming to RPM Fusion for !fedora 14?Nov 02 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Fedora 14 preupgrade ran overnight. Now rebooting. #fbNov 02 23:36
oiaohmThe one thing the F35 has over the F22 Raptors is the complete software core has been handed over for it.Nov 02 23:36
oiaohmSo F35 cannot be computer crippled on what targets it can fire on.Nov 02 23:37
gnufreexgnNov 02 23:40
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oiaohmUSA does have a issue.  Due to USA export controls F22 cannot be landed on Australian mil airfields.   Anything landing on Australian mil airfields has a risk of being rebranded.Nov 02 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] anyone know if there is a Quickly Qt template? #ubuntu #qtNov 02 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Every Judas Priest experiences it the same: 'Turbo Lover' sounds awful at first but gets better with every listen.Nov 02 23:54

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