Techrights logo

IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: October November 5th, 2010

Join us now at the IRC channel.

*Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message)Nov 05 00:00
oiaohmIt been fun it watch some of the mobile predictors.   Lot are not counting on meego.Nov 05 00:01
oiaohmhttp://www.blendernation.com/2010/11/04/blender-2-55-released/   Hmm Think selection of splash screen was not ideal.Nov 05 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blender 2.55 Released | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 52.11 KBNov 05 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes @schestowitz Can start selling ads too. Eat at Joe's kinda of stuff... ;-)Nov 05 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] INBOX ZERO! SCREW YOU, EMAIL...HA! (sorry, this is a big deal after all the email I got in the last few weeks) :-)Nov 05 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !choqok-0.9.92-1.fc14. url shortening doesn't always work. sometimes nothing pates - strangeNov 05 00:05
*Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) has joined #techrightsNov 05 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] T-Mobile USA has $9.99 !android phone...wow that is pretty inexpensive http://ur1.ca/29pv9Nov 05 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] pates=pastes (Typo)Nov 05 00:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: T-Mobile Comet review -- Engadget Mobile .::. Size~: 78.81 KBNov 05 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wordcount: 5061 !NaNoWriMo ... getting better. Dinner break.Nov 05 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] am learning this calculas shit better online than from that confusing teacherNov 05 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost sounds rather good, I think StatusNet is a high-latency IRCNov 05 00:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RE. Bob Geldoff. nevermind his recent to do with BBC. He is a really irritating person that is hard to disagree with.Nov 05 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @czajkowski: Reminder folks interested in hearing more about open source in Ireland free event http://ur1.ca/29q3s meet @sabdfl & @webminkNov 05 00:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Czajkowski  » Blog Archive   » The Business Value of Open Source Software .::. Size~: 20.39 KBNov 05 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @czajkowski Reminder for folks interested in hearing more about open source in Ireland free event http://tinyurl.com/3afogot meet @sa ...Nov 05 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Tabernacle of the Spoken Word #namespacecollision cc: @quaidNov 05 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Czajkowski  » Blog Archive   » The Business Value of Open Source Software .::. Size~: 20.39 KBNov 05 00:43
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@87.112.148.6) has joined #techrightsNov 05 00:44
*ThistleWeb has quit (Changing host)Nov 05 00:44
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #techrightsNov 05 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] i’ll make this bet – #Ubuntu in 2 years: Linux(?), Wayland, Unity, Qt (+QML), FatELF + something not .deb. Will it even be compiled by gcc?Nov 05 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Oh wat leuk, de geeks komen op het Telnet BBS af als beren op de honing, dit had ik echt niet verwacht!Nov 05 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @speeddefrost Pydentica's a great name for a µblogging appNov 05 00:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ik dacht dat ik afwijking had, maar schijnbaar is er onder geeks een behoefte naar nostalgie. Duh!Nov 05 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @snarf: Shocking: Did the W3C Sell Out to Microsoft? http://is.gd/gJiGu #chrome #mozilla #webdesignNov 05 00:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shocking: Did the W3C Sell Out to Microsoft? .::. Size~: 132.57 KBNov 05 00:50
*malacoda (~malacoda@cpe-68-206-255-156.satx.res.rr.com) has joined #techrightsNov 05 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost all that's left for them is the kernel, but even Android uses thatNov 05 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome story of Dustin meeting his childhood hero - http://is.gd/gJjSA - hope you are reading this, Nicko McBrain... :-)Nov 05 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I really should write that identica gnome-shell extension, but I am crap at doing anything remotely usefulNov 05 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Idly trying to think of good sandwich names for a #FLOSS restaurant, but only one I can come up with is Jono Bacon Lettuce & TomatoNov 05 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Meeting your Childhood Hero .::. Size~: 47.85 KBNov 05 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Plans Tonight: work out, rehearse music, tidy up, record video, lil work, kiss wife when she gets in from trip. Perfect! :-)Nov 05 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Are you ready for open services innovation in this economy? Hear more from Henry Chesbrough at our 11/11 webcast | http://bit.ly/b4b8rSNov 05 01:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  .::. Size~: 32.68 KBNov 05 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I have invented a new term, "functional fork"Nov 05 01:08
*sebsebseb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)Nov 05 01:13
*sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrightsNov 05 01:14
sebsebseb Nov 05 01:15
*Wulf|away is now known as WireWulfNov 05 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watch more French films they are less sugar and explosions more full of the things you need to live and at the least will remember.Nov 05 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] OK, I fear saying this will jinx it, but on fresh install of F13 and then preupgrade to F14, no problems so far on #ThinkPad X60Nov 05 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] am beat. class needs to end.Nov 05 01:25
*jweyrich (~jweyrich@201-14-248-216.nhoce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has joined #techrightsNov 05 01:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Awesome Army is Awesome http://bit.ly/9RcIfSNov 05 01:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » Awesome Army is Awesome .::. Size~: 18.22 KBNov 05 01:37
*malacoda has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Nov 05 01:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Nokia Z500 !MeeGo tablet leaked on #Ovi Store? http://www.engadget.com/.../nokia-z500-meego-tablet-leaked-on-ovi-store/Nov 05 01:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Engadget .::. Size~: 201.12 KBNov 05 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @NaNoWriMo 2010 Tally: 183,680 authors have written a total of 305,703,617 words so far. <<puts a bit of perspective on it !NaNoWriMoNov 05 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I don't think I'll ever learn how to do async gio loading in seed/gjsNov 05 01:43
*_Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving)Nov 05 01:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Time is passing for those who would like the discounted !lca2011 Early Bird tickets. 2 days more, to the end of Early Bird registrations.Nov 05 01:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo Roadshow in !Beijing, Developers Conference China, 5th of Nov 2010 http://is.gd/gJpyZNov 05 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MeeGo中国区开发者研讨会  2010 11月05日 北京 - 英特尔 MeeGo 免费 .::. Size~: 29.58 KBNov 05 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Reading about The Open Source Way by #Red_Hat Community Architecture team http://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/Main_PageNov 05 02:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The_Open_Source_Way .::. Size~: 20.71 KBNov 05 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Yesterday !Drupal 7 had 3 critical issues. This morning 5, now 6. My wife says "stop looking". Apparently I'm jinxing it.Nov 05 02:01
oiaohmhttp://mypaint.intilinux.com/  Nice little toolNov 05 02:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MyPaint .::. Size~: 8.8 KBNov 05 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @webmink: DRM is Toxic to Culture http://webmink.com/essays/drm/ “the biggest enemy of freedom is a happy slave”Nov 05 02:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DRM Is Toxic To Culture « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 51.84 KBNov 05 02:08
*dyfet (~dyfet@108.25.43.36) has joined #techrightsNov 05 02:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cue the recording Mafia writing laws behind closed doors for the PM to announce http://bbc.in/cRusaJ Lemmie guess - #ACTA is the answerNov 05 02:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - UK copyright laws to be reviewed, announces Cameron .::. Size~: 53.21 KBNov 05 02:12
*jweyrich has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)Nov 05 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT Keiser report with more to follow is so far making an arse of himself re Irish economy and dodgy historical references, normally betterNov 05 02:18
*jweyrich (~jweyrich@189.74.217.44) has joined #techrightsNov 05 02:25
*Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message)Nov 05 02:25
*ThistleWeb has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)Nov 05 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If Keiser says Bobby Sands again in ignorance all I can say is I will not be impressed.Nov 05 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I need to destroy some civilisations to make my ego visible againNov 05 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lxoliva RD @webmink: DRM is Toxic to Culture http://webmink.com/essays/drm/ “the biggest enemy of freedom is a happy slave”Nov 05 02:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DRM Is Toxic To Culture « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 51.95 KBNov 05 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] work out and rehearsal done. now catching up on some work reviewing the strategy for my team in this cycle. :-) #ubuntuNov 05 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My name is Ozimandius, and do something interestingNov 05 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] King Tut day! http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/movies-free-online/secrets-of-king-tut.htmlNov 05 03:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secrets of King Tut - Roger Ebert's Journal .::. Size~: 139.3 KBNov 05 03:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jonobacon: As we are all bombarded with various companies PR tell me why I should believe yours, it will be pure and be able to be passed.Nov 05 03:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Moccasin Flats And The Craziness Of Licensing #MoccasinFlats #cdntv http://bit.ly/dD8cFHNov 05 03:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Moccasin Flats And The Craziness Of Licensing .::. Size~: 103.27 KBNov 05 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Blog: Join the team for CiviAccounts: There have been a number of blog posts discussing the needs ... http://bit.ly/aQFJ6g #drupalNov 05 03:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Join the team for CiviAccounts  | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 14.75 KBNov 05 03:35
*Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) has joined #techrightsNov 05 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jonobacon: fair enough do your job, do not expect us to make life easy for you , especially as you have a wage payer to answer for. #coopNov 05 03:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] check out this great business seminar in Dublin, Ireland on 16th Nov - http://is.gd/gJxUm #ubuntuNov 05 03:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Czajkowski  » Blog Archive   » The Business Value of Open Source Software .::. Size~: 20.39 KBNov 05 03:43
*WireWulf is now known as Wulf|awayNov 05 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lovenemesis !China t-shirt shop violates !linux mascot usage http://bit.ly/aLuMeC Action needed! #QQvs360cn /cc: @linuxdotcomNov 05 04:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Da Code Ô€ÊÛ] QQ vs 360 Ö®¡¸¼èÄѵľö¶¨¡¹Ö÷ÌâTÐô - ÌÔ±¦Íø .::. Size~: 42.57 KBNov 05 04:02
*jweyrich has quit (Quit: rest.)Nov 05 04:02
schestowitzHm... there's this new survey into quality of life around the world and Britain is only 26th now, Norway at topNov 05 04:06
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ml2mst/statuses/337986872942592 "@Goblin @Schestowitz, I guess it's a good idea to log on to Techrights IRC tomorrow and discuss what my interview on TechBytes will be about"Nov 05 04:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Marti van Lin: @Goblin @Schestowitz, I gu ... .::. Size~: 12.67 KBNov 05 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst yes, come and talk with usNov 05 04:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] why are #hulu ads so damn louder than the shows?Nov 05 04:28
*Ender2070 has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Nov 05 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Making Our World More Respectful - http://is.gd/gJC8N #communityNov 05 04:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                   Making Our World More Respectful | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 31.17 KBNov 05 04:32
*Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message)Nov 05 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just uploaded !techrights IRC logs for 2 days, delay due to hardware issues on my site http://ur.ly/rH5v http://ur.ly/rin8Nov 05 04:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IRC Proceedings: November 4th, 2010 | Techrights .::. Size~: 77.19 KBNov 05 04:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IRC Proceedings: November 3rd, 2010 | Techrights .::. Size~: 77.15 KBNov 05 04:41
*amarsh04 (~amarsh04@2001:c08:3700:ffff::ae8b) has joined #techrightsNov 05 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re "First official HTML5 tests topped by...Microsoft" > see http://rww.to/9HZ2x5Nov 05 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I forgot just how bad updating Windows sftware is. 12 apps all popping "update me" at once. What is this? 2000?Nov 05 04:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sorry IE9.  W3C Clarifies Results of Recent HTML5 Compliance Tests .::. Size~: 59.24 KBNov 05 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jankusanagi ♻ #KDE 4.5.3 has been released :-D http://ur.ly/rgyi !elotroladoNov 05 04:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE - KDE Ships November Updates .::. Size~: 19.64 KBNov 05 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @trashbird1240 My !Fedora 14 desktop http://ur1.ca/29a1lNov 05 04:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram Chrome OS: a look at Google's almost-ready operating system http://ur1.ca/299yuNov 05 04:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/trashbird1240-20101103T140007-dwgs4ve.png - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.14 KBNov 05 04:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome OS: a look at Google's almost-ready operating system .::. Size~: 82.96 KBNov 05 04:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: RT @mohanpram Chrome OS: a look at Google's almost-ready operating system http://ur1.ca/299yuNov 05 04:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chrome OS: a look at Google's almost-ready operating system .::. Size~: 82.96 KBNov 05 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Not missing Nov 5th in England; the Nation Day Of Chavs With Fireworks -- Fireworks + Special Brew = FailNov 05 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Never understood why during Onam, the feasting is all vegetarian, but on Deepavali all food groups are representated! Happy Diwali! #fbNov 05 05:08
*Thrae has quit (Quit: Restarting client or something...)Nov 05 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatteron/@themadhatteron] Jim Prentice Resigns His Post As Environment Minister - Political Commentary #cdnpoli http://bit.ly/9IX86ONov 05 05:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Jim Prentice Resigns His Post As Environment Minister .::. Size~: 102.31 KBNov 05 05:18
schestowitz".@schestowitz You bet #Microsoft is working on ways 2 subvert #w3c; it's easier &more profitable than marching 2 a standard beat. #html5 #ie"Nov 05 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @seeds REDesign Exit Door by Chen Guan-Yuan » Yanko Design http://ur.ly/rswdNov 05 05:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: REDesign Exit Door by Chen Guan-Yuan » Yanko Design .::. Size~: 171.73 KBNov 05 05:20
schestowitzIt is already ruining SVG to an extent.  http://techrights.org/2010/01/06/svg-microsoft/ http://techrights.org/2010/01/07/svg-skepticism-microsoft/ http://techrights.org/2010/08/12/distortion-of-formats/ http://techrights.org/2008/11/10/novell-ajax-standards-svg/Nov 05 05:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Might Embrace and Extend SVG | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.95 KBNov 05 05:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “On the SVG List, a Couple of People [Are] Leery of Microsoft.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.59 KBNov 05 05:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Continues to Distort the Word Open and Harm SVG Using Proprietary VML | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.12 KBNov 05 05:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell Helps Microsofts Fight Against Ajax, Web Standards, SVG | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.58 KBNov 05 05:21
*Thrae (~ircuser@generalmx-1-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net) has joined #techrightsNov 05 05:22
oiaohmflash is not tollerates.  schestowitz adobe releases a large block of documentation so people can create there own tools.`Nov 05 05:28
oiaohmAnd adobe does have there old clause in effect.  If you don't break any of there drm systems they will not touch you.Nov 05 05:28
oiaohmOk not ideal but we do know where we legal stand with flash.Nov 05 05:29
oiaohmSliverlight and .net are different fish.Nov 05 05:29
schestowitza dead fish ;-)Nov 05 05:29
oiaohmMost likelyNov 05 05:30
oiaohmadobe always expected that there fileformats would be cloned.Nov 05 05:30
oiaohmSo stated out the rules if you do.Nov 05 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Archos tablets now shipping with Android Froyo http://ur.ly/rrZS via @seeds !linuxNov 05 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bing Maps 3-D Component is dead. Added to the list now: http://ur.ly/rHBG #microsoft #deathspiralNov 05 05:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Archos tablets now shipping with Android Froyo .::. Size~: 29.32 KBNov 05 05:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft - Dead Divisions or Products - Techrights .::. Size~: 23.95 KBNov 05 05:35
oiaohmNotice the transformation of ebook readers into android pads.Nov 05 05:36
oiaohmMarket fusion is under way.Nov 05 05:36
schestowitzYup :-)Nov 05 05:36
schestowitzMicrosoft and Apple can only try to suNov 05 05:37
schestowitz*sueNov 05 05:37
schestowitzhttp://www.eurodroid.com/2010/11/google-to-add-recent-changes-field-to-android-market-app-descriptions/Nov 05 05:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google to add Recent Changes field to Android Market app descriptions »  Eurodroid .::. Size~: 23.85 KBNov 05 05:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google open sources Apache server speed mod • The Register http://bit.ly/ak46MuNov 05 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: #Bing Maps 3-D Component is dead. Added to the list now: http://ur.ly/rHBG #microsoft #deathspiralNov 05 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Devil's dollars drive open source • The Register http://bit.ly/9jIOfmNov 05 05:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google open sources Apache server speed mod • The Register .::. Size~: 24.93 KBNov 05 05:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft - Dead Divisions or Products - Techrights .::. Size~: 23.95 KBNov 05 05:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Devil's dollars drive open source • The Register .::. Size~: 26.87 KBNov 05 05:40
oiaohmschestowitz: think about MS has already been hitting up ebook readers.Nov 05 05:44
oiaohmSo in there eyes they have already paid.Nov 05 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Idle Story | World's Northernmost Town Gets Nightlights http://ur1.ca/29s2fNov 05 05:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Idle Story | World's Northernmost Town Gets Nightlights .::. Size~: 62.31 KBNov 05 05:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New blog post: !ACTA to !Bill C-32 http://ur1.ca/29s1d #cdnpoli #copyrightNov 05 05:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From ACTA to Bill C-32  «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 33.53 KBNov 05 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot IT Story | Researcher To Release Web-Based Android Attack http://ur1.ca/29s3kNov 05 05:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot IT Story | Researcher To Release Web-Based Android Attack .::. Size~: 114.71 KBNov 05 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android leads inevitable march towards commoditization http://ur.ly/rm17 nothing wrong with thatNov 05 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Massive Denial Of Service Attack Severs Myanmar From Internet | threatpost http://ur1.ca/29s3yNov 05 05:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open IT Strategies: Android leads inevitable march towards commoditization .::. Size~: 75.83 KBNov 05 05:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Massive Denial Of Service Attack Severs Myanmar From Internet | threatpost .::. Size~: 58.29 KBNov 05 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] UK police not really punished for violating human rights during G20 summit http://ur1.ca/29s7l #policestate #douchebagsNov 05 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Zealand will soon be disconnected from the Internet http://ur1.ca/29s7qNov 05 06:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toronto cops who removed their name-tags during the G20 to avoid identification will be docked a day's pay - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 52.32 KBNov 05 06:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Zealand proposes "guilty until proven innocent" copyright law to punish accused infringers - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 31.06 KBNov 05 06:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] *Sigh* Yet another civil liberties watchdog got pushed out of US Senate after corporations massively funded a smear campaign against himNov 05 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] bringing green energy to bonaire, dominica, the usvi « Green Antilles http://ur1.ca/29sb5Nov 05 06:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bringing green energy to bonaire, dominica, the usvi «  Green Antilles .::. Size~: 20.65 KBNov 05 06:20
schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Wait? Want to see a visual depiction of Banshee commits...*and* listen to Severed Fifth at the same time? Oh OK: http://vimeo.com/16476877Nov 05 06:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rocking Banshee commits on Vimeo .::. Size~: 34.2 KBNov 05 06:22
schestowitzWhy endorse Banshee patent trap?Nov 05 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Island of Dominica, Roseau Dominica, Dominica accommodation http://www.guidetocaribbean.net/island-of-dominica.htmlNov 05 06:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Island of Dominica, Roseau Dominica, Dominica accommodation .::. Size~: 36.74 KBNov 05 06:23
Quadrescenceschestowitz: ?Nov 05 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] http://s.skimresources.com/* is blocked in Saudi Arabia.Nov 05 06:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 06:25
MinceRbecause that's what they're about? :>Nov 05 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @diablod3 The truth about why rich people hate Obama http://ur1.ca/29f98Nov 05 06:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom the Dancing Bug: The Poor Little Duck Who's Rich In Luck - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 102.25 KBNov 05 06:35
QuadrescenceMinceR: Banshee media player?Nov 05 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad Creative dropped !Zii and !Plaszma in favour of #Android? http://ur.ly/rIUtNov 05 06:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Press Releases .::. Size~: 37.03 KBNov 05 06:38
MinceRQuadrescence: i mean canonical seems to be all about endorsing mono and m$ nowNov 05 06:39
Quadrescenceoh dearNov 05 06:40
Quadrescenceoh banshee is in C#?Nov 05 06:40
MinceRi don't know (it probably is), but it's monoNov 05 06:40
MinceRand it's known to use parts of mono that are specifically not covered by m$'s vague "promise"Nov 05 06:41
QuadrescenceAhNov 05 06:41
Quadrescencegood thing I don't use it :)Nov 05 06:41
QuadrescenceBut canonical is making it default in uboobtu next release :(Nov 05 06:41
Diablo-D3fuck ubuntuNov 05 06:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxfoundation Linus Torvalds Live! Video QA from right before he jumped into the Giant Ocean Tank tonight at lpc: http://bit.ly/bKvg4LNov 05 06:41
Diablo-D3real men use debianNov 05 06:42
MinceR:>Nov 05 06:42
QuadrescencebehNov 05 06:42
QuadrescenceDebian is good I like it, except it's so god damn oldNov 05 06:42
MinceRit stopped being so old recentlyNov 05 06:42
MinceRalso if you're willing to sacrifice stability for newness, you can run testing instead of stableNov 05 06:42
MinceRor use backports, etc.Nov 05 06:42
MinceRwell, not so recentlyNov 05 06:43
Diablo-D3Quadrescence: um, what?Nov 05 06:43
Diablo-D3you never use stable dudeNov 05 06:43
MinceRthey seem to release every two years or soNov 05 06:43
Diablo-D3use testing.Nov 05 06:43
QuadrescenceDiablo-D3: reallyNov 05 06:43
Diablo-D3stable is for people who's system must NOT changeNov 05 06:43
QuadrescenceI seeNov 05 06:43
Diablo-D3its not meant for actual useNov 05 06:43
QuadrescenceReally? I guess I had this all backwardsNov 05 06:43
MinceRactually it is meant for actual useNov 05 06:43
Diablo-D3_unstable_ is more stable than most distro's stable branchesNov 05 06:43
MinceRthat's why the official installers are stable :>Nov 05 06:44
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, but not by humans on desktopsNov 05 06:44
Quadrescenceseriously?Nov 05 06:44
Diablo-D3you really want testing.Nov 05 06:44
oiaohmQuadrescence: so you never heared of debian cutNov 05 06:45
QuadrescenceGuess notNov 05 06:46
QuadrescenceI've really not looked at debian for a long timeNov 05 06:46
QuadrescenceLast time I used it I liked its "plainness" but the software was just old and oldNov 05 06:46
oiaohmCut is a fairly stable slice out of debian testing.Nov 05 06:47
oiaohmThinking I had run debian testing for years without issue anyhow.Nov 05 06:47
oiaohmAnd then there is scary sidux what is basically debian sid ie bleeding edge.Nov 05 06:48
oiaohmDebian does everything between downright scarely and overly stable.Nov 05 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] great write-up on the Monkeysphere - pretty funny too - http://is.gd/gJMLRNov 05 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What is the Monkeysphere? | Cracked.com .::. Size~: 87.1 KBNov 05 06:48
Diablo-D3manNov 05 06:48
Diablo-D3when I started using debian over a decade agoNov 05 06:48
Diablo-D3silly things like that didnt existNov 05 06:48
Diablo-D3we used unstable and liked it!Nov 05 06:48
Diablo-D3no sid! no testing! all unstable all the time!Nov 05 06:49
oiaohmI remember those times as well.  Diablo-D3Nov 05 06:54
oiaohmYou are talking about 1994 right Diablo-D3Nov 05 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Glad to see F14 being launched in Kuala Lumpur - http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=138034076246184 #fbNov 05 06:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Login | Facebook .::. Size~: 17.15 KBNov 05 06:55
Diablo-D3oiaohm: well, shortly afterNov 05 06:55
amarsh04the thing that sold me on Debian was being able to upgrade glibc without rebootingNov 05 06:55
Diablo-D3sid and testing didnt exist until woodyNov 05 06:55
Diablo-D3slinky and potato were unstableNov 05 06:55
schestowitzLOL "how the fuck can i have a headache this early in the fucking morning??? !ffs ☛"Nov 05 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin what do you do when someone makes you feel like crap?Nov 05 06:56
oiaohmhamm on there was sid.   Diablo-D3Nov 05 06:57
oiaohmWoody is where testing appeared.Nov 05 06:57
Diablo-D3noNov 05 06:58
Diablo-D3sid and testing appeared at the same timeNov 05 06:58
Diablo-D3before sid, distros were unstableNov 05 06:58
Diablo-D3after sid, only sid was unstable, and distros were testingNov 05 06:58
Diablo-D3so, potato unstable promoted to potato stable, potato unstable replaced with sid, woody testing openedNov 05 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rahulsundaram "Look at what's happening with !Fedora with respect to its ditching of copyright assignments" http://ur1.ca/29hf5Nov 05 07:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gmane Loom .::. Size~: 0.47 KBNov 05 07:00
*amarsh04 is preparing to post to lkml in the thread "2.6.36 io bring the system to its knees"Nov 05 07:01
oiaohmDiablo-D3: I was crossing mixing the birth of unstable with sid.   forgeting when unstable changed to sid and become a rolling release of hell.Nov 05 07:05
schestowitzsounds like senationalismNov 05 07:05
*jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)Nov 05 07:05
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yeah, the first releases didnt have unstable at allNov 05 07:05
Diablo-D3they didnt really need itNov 05 07:05
Diablo-D3or rather, they were unstable, but not movingNov 05 07:05
Diablo-D3all the users were core deb devsNov 05 07:05
oiaohmUp until hamm there was not unstable tree.Nov 05 07:05
oiaohmIt was pray it works.Nov 05 07:06
Diablo-D3yeah, thats like, gentoo unstable =PNov 05 07:06
Diablo-D3actually, gentoo stable is pray that it works >_>Nov 05 07:06
oiaohmI know one of the lead developers on cruxNov 05 07:06
oiaohmWho started crux because of gentoo  pray it works nature.Nov 05 07:06
amarsh04schestowitz - 2.6.37-rc1-git2 crashed on me after several error messages about processes being blocked for over 120 seconds. 2.6.36-git6 is fine, later kernels that I tried (2.6.36-git9 onwards) all have problems with my old 384MiB systemNov 05 07:07
oiaohmOk what is that old system of yours amarsh04Nov 05 07:10
amarsh04part of the problem with the disk io storm is that it can take some hours of normal pc use to expose the problemNov 05 07:10
amarsh04oiaohm - PII-266 440BX chipset, 384 MiB RAM, based on Debian Unstable plus kernels built with PII optimisation and low latency desktop (pre-emptable kernel)Nov 05 07:12
oiaohmOkNov 05 07:12
oiaohmBe aware by the end of the 2.6.36 applying the old real-time patch to override BLK sends system insane.Nov 05 07:13
oiaohmMostly because BLK is removed from all like key areas.Nov 05 07:13
amarsh04ext3 filesystem on / with data=orderedNov 05 07:13
amarsh04which old real-time patch btw?Nov 05 07:14
oiaohmThe old prememt patch debian has been applying to kernels.Nov 05 07:14
oiaohmpre-emptableNov 05 07:14
oiaohmBasically check what patches debian applied.Nov 05 07:14
oiaohmthose could have shot you.Nov 05 07:15
amarsh04ok, I have just been using kernel.org kernels lately without applying patchesNov 05 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] A collateral benefit of upgrading Ubuntu to 10.10 is that Virtualbox works again. Though the screensaver stopped working.Nov 05 07:15
QuadrescenceDiablo-D3: oiaohm: that is what I want, upgrades without rebootingNov 05 07:15
QuadrescenceI am disliking uboobtu more and moreNov 05 07:16
QuadrescenceEvery week it has to restart for an updateNov 05 07:16
amarsh04Debian had one libc6 upgrade that really wanted a restart some months back but generally only kernel updates need a restartNov 05 07:16
oiaohmAlso due to the changes in kernel pre-emptable could be completely stuffed.  amarsh04Nov 05 07:17
amarsh04ok, I might build a kernel without that option to test ohiaohmNov 05 07:17
amarsh04oiaohm evenNov 05 07:18
oiaohmThe stacking up processes not getting process kill switch comes in after 2.6.36-git6Nov 05 07:18
Quadrescencemaybe i should just go back to what I enjoyed: gobolinuxNov 05 07:18
oiaohmYes being pre-emptable on two low of power machine can kinda cause a stack up.Nov 05 07:18
oiaohmThat use to build and kill the system over about 2 weeks. amarsh04Nov 05 07:19
oiaohmDue to the stack up detection you get under 1 day.Nov 05 07:19
QuadrescenceWhat are you guys talking about?Nov 05 07:20
amarsh04appreciate the insite into the issues oiaohm, I'll try the default voluntary pre-emptionNov 05 07:20
QuadrescenceWhat is "stack up"/"(pre-)emtable"Nov 05 07:20
amarsh04Quadrescence, I have an old pc (PII-266) running recent kernels and had problems with kernels newer than 2.6.36-git6Nov 05 07:21
oiaohmQuadrescence: Processes basically que to get access to stuff.   pre-emptable means particular tasks can jump the que.Nov 05 07:21
QuadrescenceOh, oh, I see.Nov 05 07:21
QuadrescenceI thought you were talking about something entirely differentNov 05 07:21
oiaohmProblem is when too many jump the que too often.Nov 05 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Initial Findings: MeeGo 1.1 Netbook vs. Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook: Intel and Nokia last week rolled out MeeGo 1.1, wh... http://bit.ly/aVH2WfNov 05 07:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Initial Findings: MeeGo 1.1 Netbook vs. Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook .::. Size~: 20.22 KBNov 05 07:22
Quadrescenceamarsh04: are you on that machine now?Nov 05 07:22
oiaohmPoor buggers at end of que are not moving forwards.Nov 05 07:22
oiaohmie stackupNov 05 07:22
amarsh04I'm on the slow machine now... rebuilding a 2.6.37-rc1-git2 for it on a faster machine nowNov 05 07:22
oiaohmBasiclaly error messages about processes being blocked for over 120 seconds is not a good message.Nov 05 07:23
Quadrescencei need a new machine :(Nov 05 07:23
oiaohmI have a pent 233 around here that still runs.Nov 05 07:24
Quadrescencei need a new machine [with a good amount of computational power] :(Nov 05 07:24
amarsh04what is your machine Quadrescence?Nov 05 07:24
oiaohmYes you do particular have to say that.Nov 05 07:25
Quadrescenceit's a 2.4 GHz core2 duo with 2GB RAMNov 05 07:25
oiaohmBecause I can still buy 500 mhz x86 compadible chips on small boards new.Nov 05 07:25
oiaohmSingle processor.Nov 05 07:25
oiaohmSingle core processorNov 05 07:25
Diablo-D3yeah but who needs that when you can buy 500 mhz arm 11s or cortex a8s on even smaller boards =PNov 05 07:25
oiaohm500 mhz arm out performs it in every way.Nov 05 07:26
oiaohmI was refering to the worst bit of crap I can still build out of new parts.Nov 05 07:26
oiaohmThat could be mistaken for a PCNov 05 07:26
Quadrescencehttp://i.imgur.com/fquSF.jpgNov 05 07:26
Quadrescencehttp://i.imgur.com/nPJ5L.jpgNov 05 07:26
Quadrescencehttp://i.imgur.com/PzWEp.jpgNov 05 07:26
Quadrescencehttp://i.imgur.com/4rkvl.jpgNov 05 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 07:26
oiaohmhttp://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/eden_ulv/  I just got told off for screwing up.Nov 05 07:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VIA Eden&trade; and Eden&trade; ULV  Processors (90nm) - VIA Technologies, Inc. .::. Size~: 43.25 KBNov 05 07:28
oiaohmThe worst bit of crud I can build that kinda looks like a pc is a 400 mhz not 500mhz out of new parts.Nov 05 07:29
Quadrescenceoiaohm: hahaNov 05 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back to editing LO...Nov 05 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jezra: hot damn, Sass is pouring them stiff #ddNov 05 07:30
oiaohmAlso those are not cheep eitehr.Nov 05 07:31
oiaohmSo low performce and more expesnive than having a machine 3 to 4 times faster.Nov 05 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Yes, they are. Only I would argue Fedora stands firm (with the rest of Linux) and Ubuntu is drifting away...Nov 05 07:31
oiaohmSo its really does fall in to crud pile.Nov 05 07:32
oiaohmBasically be very careful what you wish for.  People like me are little like evil genies we will grant you wish to your word.Nov 05 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner I think I feel the same. The only reason I still care about Ubuntu is because of LO. Otherwise I'd just ignore them...Nov 05 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Yeah, sure. But I wonder how far we'd be if we all worked together....Nov 05 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. Rap News: Wikileaks vs. The Pentagon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3adw9oLBkBI !loNov 05 07:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Wikileaks vs The Pentagon - Rap News 4 - original   .::. Size~: 142.93 KBNov 05 07:40
*cubezzz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Nov 05 07:57
*cubezzz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrightsNov 05 07:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL ♺ @jezra: no, this one is the last scotch of the evening #ddNov 05 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! This guy is amazing: http://www.thejuicemedia.com !loNov 05 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... Lots of #F14 updates...Nov 05 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] compiling #OpenBSC, OsmoSGSN and OpenGGSN on an #alix board takes an amazing amount of time...Nov 05 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Understandable: identi.ca seems to filter dents with a script as an attachment...Nov 05 08:20
*Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) has joined #techrightsNov 05 08:20
*amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)Nov 05 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Living in Spain, suffering Spanish TV, /me really misses the B-B-C. #poem !qNov 05 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Who watches the watchmen? (Ensei Tancado - Digital Fortress - Dan Brown) Quote by Juvenal !qNov 05 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Linux vs Car engine. Even the best engine will be overlooked as long as non-mechanics have to install it themselves. !chromeos !android #ftwNov 05 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] broken locomotive can't stop me on my way to #FSCONS Looking forward to amazing talks & pplNov 05 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Impress your buddies with instant Latin phrases. Eg. Microsoft Phone7 Non Gradus Anus Rodentum! :) http://www.yuni.com/library/latin.htmlNov 05 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @deepakp7 @VKadarsh Such products are already in market. For eg. @FlyKingfisher is serving lemon tea softdrink sweetened with...Nov 05 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "Everybody shouts on I Love Lucy..."Nov 05 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I need a window list in #gnome-shell to find backgrounded windows in the same app.Nov 05 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] And I need the ability to spawn (e.g.) new terminals on different desktops in #gnome-shell.Nov 05 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Because at the moment there is no efficient alternative to those mechanisms.Nov 05 09:12
MinceRgeekingsNov 05 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I think this Maslow's Hierarchy make a lot of sense! http://thisisindexed.com/2010/11/where-your-head-is/ #fbNov 05 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Where your head is.  | Indexed .::. Size~: 43.74 KBNov 05 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes If you're home for half an hour we can do a quick ep recording, I'll do all the restNov 05 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Looking for some good stuff from @mozilladrumbeat, like making an open learning widget, share your story with us #drumbeatNov 05 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Kroes: EU copyright system gives more prominent role to intermediaries than artists + irritates public who can´t access what artists offerNov 05 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody UK gov: "we are reviewing our IP laws" - http://bbc.in/b873ZP "make them fit for the internet age": we shall seeNov 05 09:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Cameron 'red carpet' offer to foreign entrepreneurs .::. Size~: 52.37 KBNov 05 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] thinking about doing an opening screencast on how to get started with octaveNov 05 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nice new audiocast about UNIX and Linux has just started at http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/Nov 05 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lxoliva @mairin “Free your desktop”, “we use only free and open source software to power the #Fedora infrastructure” are probably falseNov 05 09:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notes on Linux .::. Size~: 24.56 KBNov 05 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway Looking for some good stuff from @mozilladrumbeat, like making an open learning widget, share your story with us #dru ...Nov 05 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @caostheory Good overview of the MySQL pricing hubbub from @tiensoon http://bit.ly/cYOSRNNov 05 09:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Oracle Trying To Kill MySQL? .::. Size~: 33.31 KBNov 05 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] flattr or donate for !fsfe 's #pdfreaders.org so we get the 1600 EUR to stamp out the adds http://ur1.ca/1lsxr !fs !gnuNov 05 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PDFreaders - Free Software PDF Readers - FSFE .::. Size~: 11.05 KBNov 05 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sharp to Launch Two 3D Android Handsets in Japan http://ur.ly/rCVK !linux #3d #androidNov 05 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Just put all my O'Reilly eBooks on the #Kindle. Easy as pie...Nov 05 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Werbung für unfreie Software von #bundesrat #bundestag #bundesbank #bundesregierung http://ur1.ca/29tva Ändern wir es! !fsfe !gnu !fsNov 05 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @jwildeboer: Kroes: EU copyright sys gives > prominent role to intermediaries than artists + irritates public, can´t access artists offerNov 05 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sharp to Launch Two 3D Android Handsets in Japan .::. Size~: 85.85 KBNov 05 09:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2162 mal Werbung für unfreie Software gemeldet «  I love it here .::. Size~: 11 KBNov 05 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Making Our World More Respectful http://goo.gl/mqrzrNov 05 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh O'Reilly and #Kindle kindle are both bad for your freedom and your rightsNov 05 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                   Making Our World More Respectful | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 59.63 KBNov 05 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Paul Tagliamonte: LoCo Lint Feature — File an issue for the LoCo Council ( Quickly! ) http://goo.gl/LNALL !uNov 05 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak !Flattr !FSFE's great work! http://ur.ly/rG32Nov 05 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LoCo Lint Feature  File an issue for the LoCo Council ( Quickly! )  Peace, Love and C++ .::. Size~: 16.62 KBNov 05 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software PDF Readers - by fsfe - flattr.com .::. Size~: 10.47 KBNov 05 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh Kindle? Evil DRM? You? Wazzup bro'!!! ;-)Nov 05 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @webmink I have a bad feeling about the UK copyright reform news. This government has Lib-Dem messaging but Tory lobbyist policies...Nov 05 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer I'll talk about it on an upcoming special of LO. But if you know an un-DRMed ebook reader lemme know... ;)Nov 05 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz I dunno. All O'Reilly ebooks are without DRM. As for the Kindle, there's currently no alternative IMO.Nov 05 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Looking forward to seeing @fsf's !windows7sins on #flattr.Nov 05 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Would love to however Im off and on the computer (getting ready) I'll be going back to work shortly...Nov 05 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] ♻ @kirschner flattr or donate to !fsfe 's #pdfreaders.org so we get the 1600 EUR to stamp out the ads http://ur1.ca/1lsxr !fs !gnuNov 05 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz On Sunday though I'll be off for three days so hopefully we will have a solid, organised ep out as I'll have more time for it.Nov 05 10:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PDFreaders - Free Software PDF Readers - FSFE .::. Size~: 11.05 KBNov 05 10:12
schestowitz"what publisher do you suggest than? Besides manpages" < Packt Publishing maybe? http://ur.ly/rja2Nov 05 10:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Pervy' private chat case springs back into life • The Register .::. Size~: 23.41 KBNov 05 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Checked into flight to #GOT via #AMS, headed for #FSCONSNov 05 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh any PDA would open text filesNov 05 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It seems like the approved way to install !blogilo in !Fedora 14 is as part of kdepim - 82M seems a lot to pay for blogger?Nov 05 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith @harishpillay How come ? Even M$ admits .NET is failing, and the MONO guys want to develop in a dying platform ?Nov 05 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I actually still care about Ubuntu. I think it's an important footbridge to mass acceptance. I'm just not sure I can use it any moreNov 05 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Open business plan for a productive commons - http://is.gd/gK6hH (Via the amazing P2P Foundation)Nov 05 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @schestowitz @agentsmith @harishpillay How come Even M$ admits .NET is failing and the MONO guys want to develop in a dying platform?Nov 05 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open business plan for a productive commons by platoniq youcoop on Prezi .::. Size~: 24.4 KBNov 05 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz I don't want to read books on my PDA! That's like saying if all cars are proprietary, use a bike...Nov 05 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anyone have any idea why !empathy 2.32.0.1 isn't working with MSN on !Fedora 14 ?Nov 05 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner Nah. I think Mint's replacing them for that. I only recommend Mint...Nov 05 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow...... Fedora's Bugzilla is going wild this week...Nov 05 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh I was quite happy with the Sony PRS505, normal USB mass storage access, epub support ...Nov 05 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Radio 4 was so much better this morning. Will Eddie not be on later? I said will Eddie not be on later? Answer the question! Really??!!??Nov 05 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I have started recommending MintNov 05 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I'm going to http gallery tonight to see - http://bit.ly/ch5ARRNov 05 10:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IOCOSE .::. Size~: 9.9 KBNov 05 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Actually I have to say Kopete is quite nice. This is the first time I've tried itNov 05 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @kvbhai I will try my best.. http://bit.ly/dwy1dfNov 05 10:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Narendra Sisodiya: @kvbhai I will try my best.. .::. Size~: 12.42 KBNov 05 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer The Kindle has mass storage access...Nov 05 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Quick Linux directory guide http://richs-lxh.com/the-linux-directory-structure-what-lives-where/Nov 05 10:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    The Linux directory structure  What lives where? - Father, Husband, Linux Geek& .::. Size~: 38.14 KBNov 05 10:53
*amarsh04 (~amarsh04@2001:c08:3700:ffff::ddc3) has joined #techrightsNov 05 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Confcall today with Big&Famous IT corporation. Their release cycle doesn't bode well for their long-term viability on the marketNov 05 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scanning family photographs from ~100 years agoNov 05 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, Have you tried #OpenInkpot? It runs on a number of ebook reader devices, AFAIK. It probably runs on your Kindle even.Nov 05 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner Wait til !google !chromeos tablets and netbooks start arriving for the masses. People will be saying Ubu...what?Nov 05 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Nope. I might try it when I get my own Kindle. I doubt Katy'd like if I mess with this one... ;)Nov 05 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @bkuhn: OpenInkpot is great, I use it on my beBook (http://is.gd/gKaHK), but it doesn't support Kindle - http://is.gd/gKaAnNov 05 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ereader | BeBook portable e book reader with epaper - mybebook.com .::. Size~: 25.26 KBNov 05 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle:       Hardware – OpenInkpot     .::. Size~: 21.73 KBNov 05 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I suppose I should have moved to Mint really. There would have been a lot less new stuff to learn than moving to FedoraNov 05 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner It's not that bad.... ;)Nov 05 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh One odd thing about Fedora is, it recognises my internal PCTEL based modem. Now I'm curious to try it. I haven't dialled up in yearsNov 05 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Donate to the Document Foundation! http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ #docufoundation #libreofficeNov 05 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Contribute to the Foundation - The Document Foundation .::. Size~: 14.74 KBNov 05 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] The new kernel also supports middle-button on Apple's MagicMouse. Only, it's quite difficult to find. Say it's MM's G-spot ;-)Nov 05 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @fabsh I will say: the people on here are so knowledgeable. I had so many helpful replies, so quickly. I'm really grateful to !Fedora groupNov 05 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I don't understand why the EleBBS mailing-list rejected my repackaging of EleBBS/Linux and ignored that the official package is quite a messNov 05 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm running the Win32 edition now, under Windows XP Pro SP3. Oh the horror :-(Nov 05 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Adding to my ogg collection. Currently groovin' to @methoddan's group 20lb Sounds' song Jimmy Carter (http://20lb.net/)Nov 05 11:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 11:25
schestowitz"The tip about packtpub.com was actually quite nice. That link you sent, just gossip IMO"Nov 05 11:25
schestowitzHmmm...Nov 05 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Can't find my custom tar.gz package, must start all over. The only one who is to blame is me, myself and I. Fortunately I'm not a quitter...Nov 05 11:27
schestowitzI thought some background about the grip w/ O'Reilly would be relevantNov 05 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @robmyers,I'm a bit surprised that #OpenInkpot doesn't support #Kindle, since I know Jesse Vincent was able to make his own build for KindleNov 05 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Just bought a coffee,asked for no lid & response was:"I'm required to give you a lid";Anti-environment policy under false guise of sanitary?Nov 05 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @deputetardy #euglf Débat entre Neelie Kroes + Nick Clegg + Steve Ballmer ... belle brochette ! http://twitpic.com/33uo44Nov 05 11:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Government Leaders Forum Europe à LONDRES : Neelie Kroes + N... on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 10.21 KBNov 05 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Really wish I was in UK for bonfire night :( Not much I miss about England, but that's one of them.Nov 05 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That last photo is so distrurbing for so many reasons.Nov 05 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn The site says it does. But only 1st and 2nd gen Kindles...Nov 05 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @bkuhn: The OpenInkpot site says it's not supported, and Jesse's blog just mentions Ubuntu. I'd love a Kindle build but haven't found one.:(Nov 05 11:38
*hbons (~hbons@158.43.2.102) has joined #techrightsNov 05 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Question for economists: wouldn't the greatest decrease in costs be achieved simply by killing everyone, which would reduce costs to zero?Nov 05 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Making myself scrambled eggs. Podcast editing makes me hungry...Nov 05 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-11-05: Good news, of a kind, from a dark world The truly awful nightmare at the end of this shor... http://bit.ly/c5qNWYNov 05 12:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2010-11-05 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 39.21 KBNov 05 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @p2pnet Ottawa school board: ‘Are you straight, or gay?’ Student survey http://www.p2pnet.net/story/45395Nov 05 12:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: p2pnet news  » Blog Archive   » Ottawa school board: Are you straight, or gay? .::. Size~: 40.16 KBNov 05 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The "NoSQL" Discussion has Nothing to Do With SQL (blog@CACM): http://bit.ly/9a71HpNov 05 12:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The "NoSQL" Discussion has Nothing to Do With SQL | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM .::. Size~: 45.91 KBNov 05 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why Enterprises Are Uninterested in NoSQL (blog@CACM): http://bit.ly/bEbktiNov 05 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Errors in Database Systems, Eventual Consistency, and the CAP Theorem (blog@CACM): http://bit.ly/9wpizTNov 05 12:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Enterprises Are Uninterested in NoSQL | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM .::. Size~: 40.39 KBNov 05 12:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Errors in Database Systems, Eventual Consistency, and  the CAP Theorem  | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM .::. Size~: 78.47 KBNov 05 12:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Withstood using !ubuntu for about 10 mins on a gifted laptop; installing !fedora as soon as I canNov 05 12:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Sigh, #flattr changed the buttons and now I have to re-fix my designsNov 05 12:25
*amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)Nov 05 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @furtherfield: Don't forget 'In the Long Run' by IOCOSE is opening at HTTP Gallery tomorrow evening http://tinyurl.com/267o2m6Nov 05 12:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IOCOSE .::. Size~: 12 KBNov 05 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Asheesh Laroia (@asheeshlaroia) posts: Introducing students to the world of open source: Day 1 http://bit.ly/9QYmeS @openhatcheryNov 05 12:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Introducing students to the world of open source: Day 1 | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.67 KBNov 05 12:32
*amarsh04 (~amarsh04@2001:c08:3700:ffff::ea9b) has joined #techrightsNov 05 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Should hopefully bring out some paper on a new algorithm I'll be inventing around strain analysis http://ur.ly/rv7TNov 05 12:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mechanics eBook: Plane Strain and Principal Strains .::. Size~: 12.98 KBNov 05 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Organising some very old files on the server this morning (e.g. http://ur.ly/rHC0 ), will post Linux/FOSS news the rest of the day nowNov 05 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm checking out the !fedora channel on irc.freenode.netNov 05 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Adafruit offers $2000 bounty for open source #Microsoft #Kinect drivers http://goo.gl/jMjsdNov 05 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Susanna Sorogon .::. Size~: 31.91 KBNov 05 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adafruit offers $2000 bounty for open source Microsoft Kinect drivers .::. Size~: 32.86 KBNov 05 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's definitely busyNov 05 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: #AskUbuntu Extension for !Chromium, #Firefox & Opera 11 http://goo.gl/dDbUDNov 05 12:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AskUbuntu Extension for Chrome, Firefox & Opera 11 .::. Size~: 31.57 KBNov 05 12:48
*oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Nov 05 12:50
*Will (442fc52b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.47.197.43) has joined #techrightsNov 05 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Five Best !Linux Live CDs http://ur.ly/rIEQNov 05 12:53
schestowitzHi, WillNov 05 12:54
WillMore Microsoft love for "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers!"... as long as they aren't indie:Nov 05 12:54
Willhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/104933-Xbox-Dashboard-Changes-Angers-Indie-DevsNov 05 12:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Escapist : News : Xbox Dashboard Changes Angers Indie Devs .::. Size~: 38.23 KBNov 05 12:54
schestowitzYou usually come here when I'm asleep for some reasonNov 05 12:54
WillhiNov 05 12:54
schestowitzHeheNov 05 12:54
schestowitzxbox too?Nov 05 12:54
schestowitzWhat next? Zooon?Nov 05 12:54
schestowitzHold on..Nov 05 12:54
schestowitzhttp://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/linux-users-excited-about-fedora-14-features/Nov 05 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux users excited about Fedora 14 features - Enterprise Linux Log .::. Size~: 56.39 KBNov 05 12:55
schestowitzJust making sure my train of though does not crashNov 05 12:55
schestowitz*ghtNov 05 12:55
schestowitzOkay... so we have Silver LieNov 05 12:55
schestowitzNow we can do a post around the theme of dev dev dev screwed over in silver lieNov 05 12:56
Willschestowitz: every review I've seen about the KINect mentions the need for a lot of space in your room to use the device.  There's even been a few Kinect guides for how to change your furniture around to accomodate KINect.Nov 05 12:56
schestowitzand boxNov 05 12:56
schestowitzand xboxNov 05 12:56
schestowitzWill: KINect has $500,000,000 in MARKETINGNov 05 12:56
schestowitzI readNov 05 12:56
schestowitzThink of much puff pieces you can bribe for this wayNov 05 12:56
schestowitzSony mocked itNov 05 12:56
schestowitzMarketing won't save Microsoft... it'll empty its pocketNov 05 12:57
schestowitzWill: can you provide except or summary of the xbox dev thing?Nov 05 12:57
schestowitzI fell behingNov 05 12:57
schestowitzAs you can tell from the pace of the siteNov 05 12:57
schestowitzIn fact, if you can type here a short article, I'd post awayNov 05 12:57
WillI've seen some of the kinect stuff; it's kinda ridiculous.Nov 05 12:58
schestowitzJust to make sure we cover all groundNov 05 12:58
schestowitzWill: it doesn't workNov 05 12:58
schestowitzIt's betaNov 05 12:58
schestowitzbeta at Microsoft is readyNov 05 12:58
schestowitzBeta at Google is Beta&TMNov 05 12:58
schestowitzAnd Beta at Sun is "for internal testing only"Nov 05 12:58
schestowitzOr SCOracleNov 05 12:58
schestowitzBeta at Apple is version 1.0 as Tim Bray put it...Nov 05 12:59
schestowitzBut they bully criticisNov 05 12:59
WillMicrosoft's gold master is often what open source people would probably call alpha, beta if they are very generous.Nov 05 12:59
schestowitzUnleashing police department like it's part of the cult masquerading as a companyNov 05 12:59
schestowitzWill: rtmNov 05 12:59
schestowitzread the manualNov 05 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bombs might become an excuse http://ur1.ca/29vamNov 05 13:03
Willschestowitz:  I saw something really funny a few weeks ago while browsing a known Microsoft booster site for humor -- one known MS booster was nearly calling another known MS a heretic simply because the other one phrased a sentence in a way that made it sound like MS was merely saying something which could not be independently verified (which was true), rather that phrasing it as it MS was revealing absolute truth with it's announcNov 05 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<need to get another cuppa Cafe Feminino (the brew in today's Fair Trade Coffee pot) ... the 1st mug has barely got my eyes open !NaNoWriMoNov 05 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Starting today with !NaNoWriMo wordcount of 6837Nov 05 13:12
Willschestowitz: speaking of kinect, we now have our first case of a broken TV from kinect, just like those accidents that happened with the Wii when it first released:Nov 05 13:12
Willhttp://kotaku.com/5682343/the-first-moron-to-break-his-tv-with-kinectNov 05 13:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The First Moron To Break His TV With Kinect .::. Size~: 78.75 KBNov 05 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I've come to my next !Fedora issue: !Selinux. I know I can disable it but how to I get it to allow one Wine install I trust to "misbehave" ?Nov 05 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rysiek "Philosophers want to make money too! By thinking for free you destroy professional Philosophy!" - !q !cc !linuxNov 05 13:13
MinceRsomething tells me this is as far as m$ will get with emulating the WiiNov 05 13:14
schestowitz"Best for what? I've used or tried most of those 5, but almost always use http://www.finnix.org instead."Nov 05 13:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Finnix .::. Size~: 22.31 KBNov 05 13:14
schestowitzI wrote about this distro just yesterday :-)Nov 05 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rsandu re "He is an admiral that fighted those Russians to complete anihilation." > you mean he commanded people who fought, took creditNov 05 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft gives F# an Apache 2.0 boost with code drop • The Register http://bit.ly/cbDyi0Nov 05 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft gives F# an Apache 2.0 boost with code drop • The Register .::. Size~: 23.63 KBNov 05 13:15
*MinceR gives m$ an FNov 05 13:15
MinceR(not an F#)Nov 05 13:15
Will* Will gives MS an FbNov 05 13:16
schestowitz_log<Will> schestowitz:  I saw something really funny a few weeks ago whNov 05 13:16
schestowitzCan you find the URL?Nov 05 13:16
schestowitzOtherwise it's not so usableNov 05 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Yahoo! invites world of boffins into 4,000-node Hadoop cluster • The Register http://bit.ly/bDJsm8Nov 05 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @lmarcetic: Removing your data on request may become obligatory by EU law: http://ur1.ca/29vbq http://goo.gl/4xlyT #eff #ungoogleNov 05 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo! invites world of boffins into 4,000-node Hadoop cluster • The Register .::. Size~: 21.73 KBNov 05 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | EU Commission Says People Have a 'Right To Be Forgotten' Online .::. Size~: 130.75 KBNov 05 13:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People have "right to be forgotten" online, says EU | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 41.28 KBNov 05 13:17
schestowitzLife of Brian->Life os BillyNov 05 13:17
Willschestowitz: I don't think it's that big a deal, it was just funny, that's all.Nov 05 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jamie_love By demanding #patents included in !ACTA, European Commission at odds with European suppliers of cheap generic drugs. #cdnpoliNov 05 13:18
schestowitzWill: if they were MSFT employees it would be funnyNov 05 13:19
schestowitzBut there are many Microsoft 'users' (VICTIM~1)Nov 05 13:19
MinceRone can be a victim without being a userNov 05 13:19
schestowitzYou can point at just about any serial killer and call him a "Windows user"Nov 05 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh does #kindle support epub format nowadays?Nov 05 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @thenose100: Got hardware that works well with Linux? Please add it to » #Linux #Hardware Compatibility List http://ping.fm/W4gKnNov 05 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Saved a laptop sleeve from the bin.Nov 05 13:20
Willschestowitz: neither of them were MS employees, and at least one of them spews plenty of MS hot air without needing any further exposure.Nov 05 13:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Home Page - Linux Hardware Compatibility List .::. Size~: 14.84 KBNov 05 13:20
schestowitzMaybe a poser like SweatyBNov 05 13:20
Willschestowitz:  It's sad and funny at the same time to see the Pavlovian frothing at the mouth in some MS boosters anytime words like "Google", "Linux", "Android", "Firefox", "Open", etc. come up.Nov 05 13:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Check out http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid3698508001?bctid=652164127001Nov 05 13:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One Clip for Wired.com Homepage .::. Size~: 1.83 KBNov 05 13:23
Willschestowitz:  I mean it's literally like all higher reasoning just switches off instantaneously and they become semi-feral.Nov 05 13:24
MinceRyou're implying that they had higher reasoningNov 05 13:24
WillMinceR: toucheNov 05 13:25
*Will has quit (Quit: Page closed)Nov 05 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Being utterly amazed by how easy quicklisp makes installing Lisp libraries - http://www.quicklisp.org/Nov 05 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Should you adopt Google's open source project to speed Web applications? (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/d8oCMfNov 05 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quicklisp - get started with Common Lisp libraries, quickly .::. Size~: 2.15 KBNov 05 13:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Should you adopt Google's open source project to speed Web applications? | Open Source - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 92.46 KBNov 05 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Linux beyond X: Shuttleworth contemplates #Wayland http://goo.gl/obrHl !uNov 05 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux beyond X: Shuttleworth contemplates Wayland .::. Size~: 32.45 KBNov 05 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Bellsouth is rubbish. It deletes a lot of legitimate mail, flagging it as spam.Nov 05 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Uhm, #Apple drops #Xserve… I wonder if that would make them cheaper on the second-hand market or notNov 05 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @flameeyes Uhm, #Apple drops #Xserve… I wonder if that would make them cheaper on the second-hand market or notNov 05 13:37
*hbons (~hbons@158.43.2.102) has left #techrightsNov 05 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] The tides are changing...Nov 05 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith is this why? http://ur.ly/rvUtNov 05 13:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Japanese battleship Yamato - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 155.98 KBNov 05 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @browren [http://geogebra.org] code is GPL, but the install package includes proprietary binary data files. Open-core I guess. //CC @fabshNov 05 13:43
schestowitzMinceR: what do you think? Start a list of dead Apple products?Nov 05 13:44
schestowitz"Rotten apples"?Nov 05 13:44
MinceRdunnoNov 05 13:46
MinceRi tend to focus on flaws of products and services in general :>Nov 05 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK I think I figured out the !Selinux thing in !Fedora. You use Boolean operators, I think. I just hope I know what I'm doing :)Nov 05 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Actually, somethings very special are going to happen. Not related with Yamato, thoughNov 05 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith ping us when it comes. BTW, Apple drops some rotten apples today...Nov 05 13:48
schestowitzMinceR: would that exclude Xserve?Nov 05 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Remember remember the Fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and Plot; I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should ever be forgotNov 05 13:50
MinceRafaik xserve was crap tooNov 05 13:50
MinceRhttp://go2xserve.com/Nov 05 13:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  10.5 Server AFP Issue .::. Size~: 10.01 KBNov 05 13:51
MinceRalso, using ancient and vulnerable versions of everythingNov 05 13:51
MinceRand leaving all sorts of hardening out of the kernelNov 05 13:51
schestowitzMinceR: in the server room, they need brains (the servers), not skinNov 05 13:53
schestowitzput an X on that serverNov 05 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @n8: ♺ @rysiek: "Philosophers want to make money too! By thinking for free you destroy professional Philosophy!"Nov 05 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith now even sure how you and @rsandu ended up talking about battleships, I'm currently catching upNov 05 13:53
MinceReven x would be better than the macos guiNov 05 13:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Uh oh... the precipitation outside is *fluttering*Nov 05 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jerezim EC Consultation doesn't allow citizens to answer about Net #censorship! Answer (Q.56-69) by mail! http://ur1.ca/26y6l pls RT!Nov 05 13:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why You Should Respond to the e-Commerce Consultation | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 33.34 KBNov 05 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple Xserve Line WIll Be Discontinued Starting January 31st, 2011 http://ur.ly/rkcu http://ur.ly/rGjH !gnu !linux hard to beatNov 05 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz Had to use Yahoo a/c to email friend as #Bellsouth began blocking my real email a/c after YEARS of correspondence #censorshipNov 05 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Xserve Line WIll Be Discontinued Starting January 31st, 2011 | Cult of Mac .::. Size~: 39.07 KBNov 05 14:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So long, Xserve - Apple discontinues server solutions line - Ireland’s business and technology news service – Siliconrepublic.com .::. Size~: 66.47 KBNov 05 14:00
*Eruaran (~Eruaran@ppp118-209-189-165.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #techrightsNov 05 14:00
EruaranhelloNov 05 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] 20 open source movies you can edit and redistribute for free http://ow.ly/34AQLNov 05 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz the most insidious is that people with #Bellsouth accounts don't realize that #Bellsouth is stopping their mailNov 05 14:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 Open Source Movies You Can Edit and Redistribute for Free «  Soosck .::. Size~: 31.14 KBNov 05 14:02
MinceRhayNov 05 14:03
Eruaranwho's up to scratch on LGPL?Nov 05 14:03
MinceRalso, have i mentioned already that c# is a retarded toy language?Nov 05 14:03
schestowitzHi EruaranNov 05 14:03
schestowitzLong time, no seeNov 05 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Child soldier plea bargain http://ur1.ca/29vpxNov 05 14:03
Eruaranhello schestowitzNov 05 14:03
EruaranyesNov 05 14:03
schestowitzWe've made some changes aroundNov 05 14:03
schestowitzYour graphics are still use tens of thousands of times per day, so thanksNov 05 14:04
Eruaranoh yeaNov 05 14:04
schestowitzI hope to do the audiocast twice a weekNov 05 14:04
schestowitzMaybe screencasts soon, but not related to techrightsNov 05 14:04
EruaranI lost my data and never got around to re-doing itNov 05 14:04
EruaranIts hard to find timeNov 05 14:05
schestowitzIt's fine as it isNov 05 14:05
schestowitzWe need to refocus a littlNov 05 14:05
schestowitzToo much breadthNov 05 14:05
EruaranI was made aware of something today by a collegue at workNov 05 14:05
EruaranIs it legal for someone to take a free software project that is LGPL , simply rebrand it and sell it without disclosure as to what it is? I presume because of this also that the source code is not being made available.Nov 05 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Received my #Sintel DVD set; 4 discs of goodies ;-) The 4K renders look nice... will explore them further tomorrow.Nov 05 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm Had to use Yahoo a/c to email friend as #Bellsouth began blocking my real email a/c after YEARS of correspondenceNov 05 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm the most insidious is that people with #Bellsouth accounts don't realize that #Bellsouth is stopping their mailNov 05 14:10
EruaranHarvey Norman stores here in Australia are selling an office suite with email for $150 which they say is on special, the 'recommended retail' being $199. It's called "Complete Office".Nov 05 14:11
EruaranIt is OpenOffice.org and Mozilla Thunderbird rebranded and being sold in a box for $150. Nothing more.Nov 05 14:11
schestowitzYeah,Nov 05 14:11
schestowitzit's possibleNov 05 14:11
schestowitzThey need to rebrandNov 05 14:11
MinceRshould be fine for the "if you don't have to pay for it, it's crap" folksNov 05 14:12
EruaranA work collegue told me a customer brought it in and asked him to install it for him... He couldn't believe it.Nov 05 14:13
EruaranIt just seems wrong to me that someone can come along and do nothing more than re-brand and sell in a way that is simply taking advantage of ignorant people.Nov 05 14:14
EruaranI mean, its one thing if someone wants to buy something to support the developers but this is nothing like that.Nov 05 14:14
EruaranIts just some bunch from Queensland leeching.Nov 05 14:15
schestowitzbetter than lynching :-)Nov 05 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] wow, #firefox for #android is really slick. One browser to rule them all! http://www.mozilla.com/mobile/Nov 05 14:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox Mobile .::. Size~: 22.66 KBNov 05 14:17
MinceRit is wrongNov 05 14:17
MinceRbut there are people who insist on that it's crap if you don't have to pay for it and they too are to blame for thisNov 05 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer No. But I can just convert them to .mobi.Nov 05 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] RT @ubuntutwo BUG: Several !Ubuntu One Music Store users report that #severedfifth album purchased automaticallyNov 05 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera The World Bank Is Quietly Funding a Massive Corporate Water Grab http://ur1.ca/29oz7Nov 05 14:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Watch Out: The World Bank Is Quietly Funding a Massive Corporate Water Grab | World Food & Water |Axisoflogic.com .::. Size~: 36.33 KBNov 05 14:23
EruaranWatched a good documentary the other dayNov 05 14:25
EruaranJohn Pilger's, "The War On Democracy"Nov 05 14:25
sebsebsebEruaran: a bit off topic, but as the releases go by of Ubuntu, like Windows, it takes advantage of ignorant people more it seemsNov 05 14:25
sebsebseband I guess we will see that a lot once it starts shipping  Unity by default in 11.04 desktop hmmNov 05 14:26
sebsebseband currently uhmm Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and I guess that Unity Linux based on PLOS that I haven't tried, are all more user friendly, for obvious reasons after tryingNov 05 14:26
sebsebsebalso going back to your topic a bit more Eruaran well there are people who basically think stuff sucks, unless they pay for itNov 05 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay now #Chromium wants me to confirm download of PDF files coming from Google Docs… what-the-heck?!Nov 05 14:28
sebsebsebApple is another one that takes advantage of ignorant peopleNov 05 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram How Android, BlackBerry and iPhone users see one another http://ur1.ca/29pjtNov 05 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Slashdot Linux Story | Ubuntu Dumps X For Unity On Wayland" from http://ur1.ca/29vyxNov 05 14:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Ubuntu Dumps X For Unity On Wayland .::. Size~: 105.54 KBNov 05 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Slashdot Technology Story | Nicaragua Raids Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps" from http://ur1.ca/29vz7Nov 05 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Rotten apples ? Humm, more lawsuits ?Nov 05 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Command to logout all the users in one command | commandlinefu.com" from http://ur1.ca/29vzkNov 05 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | Nicaragua Raids Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps .::. Size~: 133.61 KBNov 05 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Command to logout all the users in one command | commandlinefu.com .::. Size~: 115.05 KBNov 05 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Display the size of all your home's directories | commandlinefu.com" from http://ur1.ca/29vzyNov 05 14:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Display the size of all your home's directories | commandlinefu.com .::. Size~: 115.85 KBNov 05 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb this is "public service broadcasting" apparently http://bit.ly/c0ucTX #BBC #extortionracket // their impartiality skin piecedNov 05 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith not yetNov 05 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] tropical storm #tomas hitting #Haiti right now. people are still in tents. #wtf. where's the billions that was pledged after the quake?Nov 05 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  BBC facing news blackout as journalists strike over pensions | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 223.35 KBNov 05 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @linuxcanuck: Use the #Windows #Bootloader to dual-boot Windows #Vista & #Ubuntu http://is.gd/gKv05Nov 05 14:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Use the Windows Bootloader to dual-boot Windows Vista and Ubuntu | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 45.86 KBNov 05 14:37
schestowitz<sebsebseb> Apple is another one that takes advantage of ignorant peopleNov 05 14:40
schestowitzIgnorant *and* with spare cashNov 05 14:40
schestowitzLethal comboNov 05 14:40
MinceRnot necessarily with spare cashNov 05 14:40
schestowitzIt's like scientologyNov 05 14:40
MinceRcredit works tooNov 05 14:40
MinceRsame with scientologyNov 05 14:40
schestowitzThey are money hoovers... exploiting ignorance and money to gain power in a cultNov 05 14:40
MinceRalso even slave labor works with scientologyNov 05 14:40
schestowitz<MinceR> same with scientologyNov 05 14:41
schestowitzbeat you to itNov 05 14:41
schestowitzBut we though alikeNov 05 14:41
schestowitzThey can get loans toioNov 05 14:41
schestowitzSo yes, they just need cash at handNov 05 14:41
schestowitzCash is just loans anyway, in its originNov 05 14:41
MinceRactually i was reacting to your saying "It's like scientology", meaning that credit works in both places in place of cashNov 05 14:41
schestowitzApple uses dumber people. You can tell by the logoNov 05 14:42
schestowitzma ma  da da... apple... doo delNov 05 14:42
schestowitzScientology has some complex symbol iircNov 05 14:42
EruaranI discovered a charming fellowNov 05 14:42
EruaranWant to see?Nov 05 14:42
schestowitzThey also have books with more than one peripheral itemNov 05 14:42
schestowitzSo they assume their customer is not too ignorantNov 05 14:43
Eruaranhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgCyDsvi84Nov 05 14:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Duane Clarridge Defends the Empire   .::. Size~: 122.35 KBNov 05 14:43
schestowitzXenu>>JobsNov 05 14:43
MinceRthe clams have many symbolsNov 05 14:43
MinceRone of them is pretty simple: a crossed out christian crossNov 05 14:43
MinceRtaken from CrowleyNov 05 14:43
schestowitzEruaran: boomarked for l8er todayNov 05 14:43
schestowitzRipoffs tooNov 05 14:44
Eruaranschestowitz: I recommend watching the entire documentary on Google VideoNov 05 14:44
schestowitzWhat do you know... maybe inspired by Apple.Nov 05 14:44
schestowitzURL?Nov 05 14:44
schestowitzI'm still watching some of Sintel makingsNov 05 14:44
schestowitzThen I can do PilgerNov 05 14:44
schestowitzand do some viewing of stuff I sub'ed toNov 05 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] SoundKonverter (audio converter GUI) has almost reached version 1.0 http://ur1.ca/29w3vNov 05 14:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: soundKonverter KDE-Apps.org .::. Size~: 99.76 KBNov 05 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Doing stupid things is part of being a teenager.Nov 05 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Act-On-ACTA → http://en.act-on-acta.eu/Main_PageNov 05 14:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Act-on-ACTA .::. Size~: 20.72 KBNov 05 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] To be fair a lot of apps are closing in on that all important 1.0 - but a lot less are actually there yet http://ur1.ca/29w4kNov 05 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'd have to say, #HP hardware support in !Linux is very still commendable and it keeps improving even for very old equipment.Nov 05 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @mairin I'd had this experience and I remembered that dent.:)You know what'd I do? I'd remember something huge I did. feedoraproject.org? ;)Nov 05 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ⇐stop procrastinating and get back to #amwriting my !NaNoWriMo novel ↵Nov 05 14:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                         SourceForge.net: Akregator - Project Web Hosting - Open Source Software                 .::. Size~: 12.92 KBNov 05 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Do I really need to tweet about the mom sued by the #RIAA? It even doesn't amaze me any more... #copyrightGoneBad http://ur1.ca/29w57Nov 05 14:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: De Standaard Online - Monsterboete voor mama die 24 songs downloadde .::. Size~: 92.69 KBNov 05 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] We could give it a try I suppose: making #linux a Twitter trending topic, that is http://ur1.ca/29w5gNov 05 14:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #Linux on Twitter - Russell's Cyber Journal .::. Size~: 43.07 KBNov 05 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Kubuntu 10.10 aka Maverick Meerkat Review http://ur.ly/ryfC !gnu !linux !kdeNov 05 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @juditrius RT @ipwatch→ @lessig Calls For #WIPO To Lead Overhaul Of !Copyright System http://ur1.ca/29w5fNov 05 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz Dell is pretty good too - that surprised me a little actually - given the close Wintel relationship and allNov 05 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Lights Up Darkest Africa http://blog.lpi.org/?p=33 leveraging, balancing act. #freefom #africaNov 05 14:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kubuntu 10.10 aka Maverick Meerkat Review | Muktware .::. Size~: 23.51 KBNov 05 14:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Watch  » Blog Archive   » Lessig Calls For WIPO To Lead Overhaul Of Copyright System .::. Size~: 46.46 KBNov 05 14:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Open Source Lights Up Darkest Africa | LPI COMMUNITY CORNER .::. Size~: 55.44 KBNov 05 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Apparently I cannot connect to many Spanish websites. Rest of the world is fine. Similar experience anybody?Nov 05 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @mgeist RT @mpjamesmoore: !BillC32 has passed 2nd reading in Parliament and off to committee <<despite universal opposition except ***AsNov 05 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] my slides on storage UX from the #linux plumbers' conference file and storage miniconference: http://ur1.ca/29w6y #lpc2010Nov 05 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] live etherpad from the #linux plumbers' conference file & storage mini-conference: http://ur1.ca/29w75 #lpc2010Nov 05 14:58
*TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Nov 05 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The X.Org Plans In Ubuntu 11.04, Again: While we may see Canonical use Wayland beginning with Ubuntu 11.10, ther... http://bit.ly/98of8BNov 05 15:00
*jono (~jono@c-67-164-33-64.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrightsNov 05 15:00
*jono has quit (Changing host)Nov 05 15:00
*jono (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #techrightsNov 05 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Enterprise Mobility: HP's #Palm Pre 2 Features Speedier WebOS 2.0, Solid Hardware ur.ly/rre6 by Microsoft Nick. !linuxNov 05 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] conference pro-tip: #fedora works really well with projectors. trust it. it may just be the power button on the projector is turned off. ;-)Nov 05 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Disinformation about global heating http://ur1.ca/29w93Nov 05 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just received mail about another university that signed a private deal with Microsoft, agreeing to make slaves of _all_ students. #lockinNov 05 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Public or academic insitutions that agree to misuse public funds by secretly paying monopolists should be sued (like Google did this week).Nov 05 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New: OOo-DEV 3.x Developer Snapshot (build DEV300m92) available http://ur.ly/rF0WNov 05 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm first morning i haven't written anything - later in the day looms large. !NaNoWriMoNov 05 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Public or academic insitutions that agree to misuse public funds by secretly paying monopolists should be sued (like Goo ...Nov 05 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Just received mail about another university that signed a private deal with Microsoft, agreeing to make slaves of _all_ ...Nov 05 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For schools to sign deals with Microsoft/Apple/Google is wrong for many reasons, but anyway, it just shows companies run schools now, too.Nov 05 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How long before public schools are publicly traded like some football clubs? The likes of Gates already work on it. #corposchoolNov 05 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ain't choice grand? Parents get to design which brand to indoctonate their little kids for. Training, not education.Nov 05 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep." ~Albert EinsteinNov 05 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz You mean, they can't compete with Linux and R dropping their server lineup ?Nov 05 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz indoctrinate*Nov 05 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://goo.gl/cylmf - Going home #iRailNov 05 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sredna pages on disqus com is impossible to view in #konqueror / #disqus is broken. Luckily, #NoScript blocks this rubbishNov 05 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @richslxh I think Google OS will really disrupt the market but maybe affecting Apple more than Ubuntu - maybe?Nov 05 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith yes. In the server room the product needs brain, not skin.Nov 05 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Ehehehehe... Gr8. LOLZ. No lipstick in the power room could save crApple.Nov 05 15:28
Eruaran"There isn't a "war on terror", there is a war of terror" - John PilgerNov 05 15:28
*sebsebseb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)Nov 05 15:29
schestowitzYupNov 05 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If your government pushed to you soda cans you must pay for (at 50 cents/can, 1k prepaid), would you accept it? Can Microsoft get way w/ it?Nov 05 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Apple is a house of cards built on false perception, just like many cultsNov 05 15:32
schestowitzEternal warNov 05 15:32
schestowitzWhen ther's no external war you know what happens?Nov 05 15:32
schestowitzThe poor fight those who exploit themNov 05 15:32
schestowitzThe real enemyNov 05 15:32
schestowitzClass warsNov 05 15:32
schestowitzOtherwise thje rich with people like Murdoch who work with them/for them get to send to poor to kill foreigners and come back in coffinsNov 05 15:33
Diablo-D3"we sell them their bullets, and then we sell them their coffins"Nov 05 15:33
schestowitzThen they can have their self-fulfilling prophecy about threat abroad (dead soldiers)Nov 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @fontana the stall-man (for the mega size burger)Nov 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @lxoliva really? howNov 05 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @silner I find the idea behind Google OS quite silly (for us, not for Google). We gave platform control to MSFT, look what happened.Nov 05 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin firmware //cc @lxolivaNov 05 15:35
schestowitz"They can because they still have enough money to push governments and other corporations around."   > "@pmctechblog so their competitors should sue, it takes deep pockets to sue tyrannies with revolving-door cronies (e.g. Monsanto, BP)"Nov 05 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Indeed, in real world, real life, they got no room. But, in the perception distortion field...Nov 05 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @carlopiana @silner need to push Google to keep code coming (Android bad example). Chrom[ium] and -OS smells and feels 'open' core-ishNov 05 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz reality distortion field, I mean. ;-)Nov 05 15:38
*sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrightsNov 05 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Apple is for people who think the problem with Microsoft, for example, is just the brand, no the behaviourNov 05 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nigel Farage of UKIP brash arrogant but with his finger on the pulse of politics, 19th century politics.Nov 05 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith yes, I knowNov 05 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @telecomix Test run of #ACTA in Mexico. Free software activist detained without judicial order http://bit.ly/b7ghYq #censurachiapasNov 05 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Great, Facebook is blocking my friendship requests... Damned Zuckerberg Dumbfuck!Nov 05 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Jóia, não consigo mais mandar pedidos de amizade no Feicebuqui. Maldito Zuckerberg!!!Nov 05 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] #Red_Hat CEO casts his vote for !Fedora 14: http://press.redhat.com/2010/11/05/casting-my-vote-for-fedora-14/Nov 05 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz doesn't it though... i'm having real trouble getting going todayNov 05 15:50
schestowitzEruaran: watched itNov 05 15:50
schestowitzwatching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjnpHZwhtZc nowNov 05 15:51
*gnufreex (~gnufreex@109-93-249-141.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrightsNov 05 15:51
*sebsebseb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)Nov 05 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] i need musicNov 05 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] And I'm not watching "The Social Network" Zucky DumbFuck is rich enough, I'm not giving him more cash...Nov 05 15:55
gnufreexApple leaves server market. Way too unreliable. http://www.osnews.com/comments/23997?view=nested&perpage=15&order=o&sort=&threshold=0Nov 05 15:55
MinceRapparently there weren't enough stupid people running serversNov 05 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @StopACTANow RT @avilarenata: Free Software developer Héctor Bautista arrested in Chiapas his equipment was seized http://ur1.ca/29wpdNov 05 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] E não vou ver a "A Rede Social". o Zukinho já é rico bastante, do meu bolso é que não sai um centavo.Nov 05 15:57
*abeNd-org has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)Nov 05 15:57
gnufreexMinceR: Yep. Apple fanboys are too stupid to run servers, other are not stupid enough to buy xServe.Nov 05 15:58
*Diablo-D3 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)Nov 05 15:58
gnufreexAlso, maybe this is a part of Jobs-Ellison aliance. Jobs kill servers, Ellison Android.Nov 05 15:59
gnufreex* servers = xServes.Nov 05 15:59
MinceRinterestingNov 05 15:59
EruaranI wouldn't be surprised if Apple instead released a NAS appliance and called it iNAS or iStore or something...Nov 05 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ♺ ♺ @opensourceway: 20 open source movies you can edit and redistribute for free http://ow.ly/34AQL #opencontent !ccNov 05 16:00
MinceRiNAS is too technical for themNov 05 16:00
Eruaranyes thats what I was thinkingNov 05 16:00
EruaraniPutStuffHereNov 05 16:01
gnufreexHFS+ is crappy file system.Nov 05 16:01
gnufreexDon't think it could be good for big storage.Nov 05 16:01
gnufreexbut fanboys will buy anyways.Nov 05 16:01
EruaranI conducted a file transfer test last weekendNov 05 16:01
EruaranA 1TB hard drive almost full of large photo and video filesNov 05 16:02
*abeNd-org (~KKlenke@tx-76-0-83-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrightsNov 05 16:02
EruaranWindows 7 and UbuntuNov 05 16:02
Eruarancopy the contents from one drive to anotherNov 05 16:02
EruaranWindows 7 started fast and said it was going to take 2hours and 15minutesNov 05 16:03
*gnufreex anxiously waits for results...Nov 05 16:03
dyfetHmm...they also keep themselves out of the virtual market (apple)...since in theory they only ever licensed server release for use on vm's to their enslaved user base, if I recall correctlyNov 05 16:03
EruaranAt over 125mbNov 05 16:03
EruaranpsNov 05 16:03
EruaranBut... I oberved something strangeNov 05 16:03
EruaranIt got slower as it wentNov 05 16:03
Eruaran90... 80... 70... 60Nov 05 16:04
cubezzzsounds like normal windows to meNov 05 16:04
gnufreexYep, that is windows.Nov 05 16:04
EruaranIt wasn't long before it was saying it would take more than 17 hours to complete the file transferNov 05 16:04
EruaranIt became intolerableNov 05 16:04
MinceR:DNov 05 16:04
EruaranIt dropped to a miserable speedNov 05 16:04
MinceRwell, winblows is intolerableNov 05 16:04
EruaranAnd I cancelled the transferNov 05 16:04
gnufreexContinuous delays, that sounds like Microsoft.Nov 05 16:04
EruaranThen I tried UbuntuNov 05 16:05
Eruaran10.10Nov 05 16:05
EruaranNo spectacular looking speeds at firstNov 05 16:05
Eruaranjust a steady 20-25mb/psNov 05 16:05
gnufreexI meant to say "Continuous delays and false promises, that sounds like Microsoft."Nov 05 16:05
EruaranIt started off saying it would take 13 hoursNov 05 16:05
EruaranThen it said 10...Nov 05 16:06
EruaranI let it runNov 05 16:06
EruaranSpeed remained fairly constantNov 05 16:06
EruaranIt finished in 6 hoursNov 05 16:06
MinceRhow long did you wait before you stopped winblows?Nov 05 16:06
Eruaranabout an hourNov 05 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Rational drug policy http://ur1.ca/29wtcNov 05 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Arrived in Gothenburg for #FSCONS. A couple more phone calls, then I'm off to the conf receptionNov 05 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Openness enables sustainable, differentiated services. Interested in how? Join our 11/11 webcast to learn more | http://bit.ly/b4b8rSNov 05 16:07
EruaranIt was just getting slower and slowerNov 05 16:07
MinceRwould have worth waiting, imoNov 05 16:07
MinceRin case it was just lyingNov 05 16:07
EruaranmaybeNov 05 16:07
MinceRs/have/& been/Nov 05 16:07
gnufreexLet it run overnight.Nov 05 16:07
EruaranBut I didn't want to waste all weekend on itNov 05 16:07
Eruaranonce its speed got too slow I couldn't tolerate itNov 05 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 5/11/2010: Google Chrome OS Enters Beta http://ur.ly/rgP4 #google !linux #lockdown !techrightsNov 05 16:08
EruaranYou find youself saying, "I can tranfer over our network faster than this... or to a USB drive"Nov 05 16:09
EruaranIn my job we are doing larger and larger backups for customers... we have time constraintsNov 05 16:10
EruaranIn a real world situation you don't have time to wait and see if it will get fasterNov 05 16:10
EruaranYou need to get the job done in a reasonable timeNov 05 16:11
schestowitz" oh, thank you, i can try forbidding javascript for that server then, since some unfortunate publishers appear to use it... :)"Nov 05 16:11
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57506642#notice-58034090Nov 05 16:11
EruaranYou know what Chrome OS makes me think of ?Nov 05 16:16
EruaranOpera...Nov 05 16:16
Eruaran:PNov 05 16:16
gnufreexIt will get more interesting if Microsoft really starts suing Acer and Asus. I think those two should join OIN, ASAP.Nov 05 16:19
EruaranAcer is bigger than most people thinkNov 05 16:20
EruaranMicrosoft is getting desperateNov 05 16:20
dyfetgnufreex: hmm... ;)  yeah, that would be...interestingNov 05 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @PaoloBrini Ooops! RT @techdirt: Nicaragua Accidentally Invades Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps http://dlvr.it/84jP0 #lulz #lol #googleNov 05 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mairin I'd just use a footnote myself to be technically covered, but Web pages may not work well with such layout/structNov 05 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Apple exits the server market: http://www.osnews.com/story/23997/Apple_Exits_Server_Market These were dream machines though... #apple #osxNov 05 16:22
EruaranI have a feeling Acer will not be bullied so easilyNov 05 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Lessig calls #WIPO to lead overhaul of a copyright system that "never will make sense in digital environment" http://ur1.ca/29w5f !fsfeNov 05 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] May I recommend a political film "THE WAR ON DEMOCRACY" which I am watching today after receiving a pointer? It starts @ http://ur.ly/rreiNov 05 16:23
EruaranWe are an Acer partner, so we talk to them a bit.Nov 05 16:23
EruaranThey know what's going on.Nov 05 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to Aló Django downloaded from JAMENDO (aka "The Celestial Juke-Box" !q via @PaoloBrini ) http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/61449Nov 05 16:25
gnufreexEruaran: Yes, Acer is big, but it is in Microsoft's pocket. Acer has about 3% profit margins, all MSFT has to do is bring OEM license up exclusively for Acer, and they are in red.Nov 05 16:25
EruaranMicrosoft was trying to get Acer to decide on Windows Phone 7 instead of Android earlier this year. They told us they were going with Android. When I asked why the answer was unambiguous: "It just works so much better".Nov 05 16:26
gnufreexMSFT sets license per vendor. Phones are one thing, but if they start putting Chrome OS or Ubuntu on laptops or desktops, Microsoft will try to kill them.Nov 05 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] When you're in Goteburg, you should visit #gnutiken good soup, nice people :)Nov 05 16:28
gnufreexLook what happened with Dell.Nov 05 16:29
gnufreexThey dumped Ubuntu.Nov 05 16:29
gnufreexProbably under pressure.Nov 05 16:29
MinceRdidn't see that one coming, huh? :>Nov 05 16:29
MinceRthey probably get a big discount on licensing prices from m$ for itNov 05 16:30
MinceRor they were threatenedNov 05 16:30
gnufreexMinceR: Exactly. And discount is off if you don't use 100% Windows on all machines.Nov 05 16:30
EruaranDell is still offering Ubuntu systemsNov 05 16:31
gnufreexThat means proft margins go down, probably in loss.Nov 05 16:31
MinceRthey probably have some middle ground tooNov 05 16:31
MinceRconsidering dHell's past conductNov 05 16:31
gnufreexEruaran: They "offer" it, but it is impossible to buy it.Nov 05 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] My links for the beginning of November, along with a very interesting paper on OOXML: http://ur1.ca/29wzl #ooxml #failNov 05 16:32
gnufreexGlyn Moody wrote article about his attempt to buy Ubuntu computer from Dell.Nov 05 16:32
gnufreexHe failed.Nov 05 16:32
gnufreexThey called him a freak for asking it.Nov 05 16:32
EruaranSeems pretty straightforward on their websiteNov 05 16:33
MinceRdHell's site is full of liesNov 05 16:33
MinceRincluding ones concerning durability and RoadReady(tm)nessNov 05 16:33
gnufreexhttp://www.h-online.com/open/features/Why-is-Dell-UK-making-it-so-difficult-1095568.htmlNov 05 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @schestowitz happy to do it, does adding a footnote sound like an acceptable solution to you @lxolivia?Nov 05 16:33
gnufreexRead entire article.Nov 05 16:34
gnufreexSite is basically useless. If you order that Ubuntu computer on site, it will come with Windows.Nov 05 16:34
*TechrightsBot-tr (~b0t@216.105.40.114) has joined #techrightsNov 05 16:35
TechrightsBot-trHello World!Nov 05 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.48 KBNov 05 16:35
EruaranI've just finished my orderNov 05 16:35
EruaranIt still has UbuntuNov 05 16:35
schestowitzDell rhymes with "Hell" for a reason :)Nov 05 16:35
EruaranIf it got shipped with Windows, you'd just send it back and tell them to send what you orderedNov 05 16:36
MinceRand they'll refuseNov 05 16:37
MinceRin the most likely case they'll send your money back and you'll have lost some of your time and cost of communication, having gained nothingNov 05 16:38
EruaranIf they send you something different from what you ordered it is grounds for a full refund.Nov 05 16:38
MinceROEMs are often fine with that dealNov 05 16:38
MinceR"you can get our hardware tied with winblows, or not at all"Nov 05 16:38
EruaranMoody was using the UK siteNov 05 16:39
EruaranI didn't have any problems on the US siteNov 05 16:39
EruaranNot that I'd actually buy from Dell anyway...Nov 05 16:41
MinceRneither would iNov 05 16:41
MinceRafter my first (and last) dHell craptopNov 05 16:41
EruaranI had a customer who couldn't use a universal power supply with his Dell notebookNov 05 16:42
EruaranWe tested one and it powered the system just fineNov 05 16:43
EruaranBut the battery would not charge for some reasonNov 05 16:43
EruaranIt turned out the only way the battery would charge was if he used a Dell power supplyNov 05 16:43
MinceRhardware manufacturers love such lock-inNov 05 16:44
EruaranOn other models they simply changed the jack and plug to a non-standard design that you simply can't plug anything but a Dell power supply intoNov 05 16:44
gnufreexI me reading comments on this article from Glyn Moody, it seems soem KerryatDell commented and repeated regular Dell garbage.Nov 05 16:44
EruaranOne of the worst examples of mendacious lock in I've seen is ToshibaNov 05 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mixdown of LO 173....Nov 05 16:45
EruaranA customer brought a Toshiba netbook inNov 05 16:45
EruaranIt was allegedly upgradable to 2GB RAMNov 05 16:45
EruaranBut it would not boot with any RAM we tried with itNov 05 16:46
EruaranI spoke directly to Toshiba who insisted the RAM must be faulty... I then spoke to their warranty repair centre in Melbourne who seemed mistified saying "it should  work"Nov 05 16:47
EruaranThey told me if I sent the netbook to them they'd replace the motherboard assuming its a faultNov 05 16:47
EruaranBut after a bit more research I found that it wasnt a faultNov 05 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] FocusWriter is all writing, no distractions http://lwn.net/Articles/413495/rssNov 05 16:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 16:48
EruaranToshiba had deliberately made sure this netbook would not recognize any RAM but what they have themselves for sale on their website.Nov 05 16:48
EruaranThe RAM for this netbook is made by Kingston and can only be purchased through Toshiba. Naturally it is twice as expensive as normal Kingston 1066Mhz DDR3 RAM.Nov 05 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] drenched in #arthistoryNov 05 16:50
EruaranYou can check Toshiba's forums and see all the angry people on there complaining about this nice little surprise.Nov 05 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Security Crisis in Windows Provides Excuse for #Microsoft to Take More Control of #Windows http://ur.ly/rEKXNov 05 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security Crisis in Windows Provides Excuse for Microsoft to Take More Control of Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.91 KBNov 05 16:55
Eruaranhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ&feature=player_embeddedNov 05 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Sintel - Third Open Movie by Blender Foundation   .::. Size~: 140.2 KBNov 05 16:55
gnufreexHell, that's like RISC workstation makers in the past... Proprietary DIMMsNov 05 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Decreto Pisanu non più http://ur1.ca/29x8t - da verificare (Stupid wi-fi regulation requiring ID registration &other crap to be scrapedNov 05 17:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ZEUS News - Notizie dall'Olimpo informatico .::. Size~: 27.02 KBNov 05 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Shin Bet routinely abuse prisoners) http://ur1.ca/29x9gNov 05 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Great Migrations http://bit.ly/aKRbhqNov 05 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Great Migrations - The Big Picture - Boston.com .::. Size~: 65.98 KBNov 05 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] ur1.ca/29hf5 is a post by Charles Schulz of #TDF on #LibreOffice mailing list re: TDF's decision to avoid © assignment (HT @rahulsundaram).Nov 05 17:12
cubezzzyes, IBM also did that trick with the ramNov 05 17:14
MinceRnot in PCs though, did they?Nov 05 17:14
cubezzzyes, sometimesNov 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @carlopiana Does that mean I can go online without ID at #SFScon next week?Nov 05 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] who's got a #nix #tablet?Nov 05 17:15
gnufreexIBM overdid it in Power Systems. p520 doesnt use same memory as P550Nov 05 17:16
gnufreexOne type of memory for 4-way server, another for 8-wayNov 05 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @erack: Heading to !OOo #Hackfest Beer & Fun :-) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Hackfest2010 : Wish I'd be there!!!Nov 05 17:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 17:17
gnufreexAnd off course, you can only get it from IBM... with crazy prices.Nov 05 17:18
cubezzzI have another beef with IBMNov 05 17:19
cubezzzI can't get documentation for my 1993 IBM computerNov 05 17:19
gnufreexYou mean for writing drivers?Nov 05 17:20
cubezzzI admit it's old and all, but still... they could have left a few files upNov 05 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @silner Ubuntu is the first step for Windows users to an "alternative" ie Linux. I think they will go the easier "preinstalled" route.Nov 05 17:20
cubezzzgnufreex, no, just basic stuff like part numbers and jumper settingsNov 05 17:20
cubezzzI have BL3 (linux distro) running with XNov 05 17:21
gnufreexLol, they removed that?. Or is it even available backe then?Nov 05 17:21
cubezzznot sure to tell you the truthNov 05 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @carlopiana @carlosmn If you are going through France, try connecting to a Romanian server first, France will send you directly to Spain :PNov 05 17:22
cubezzzmaybe it was never up on the webNov 05 17:22
gnufreexI think IBM started putting stuff on the Web later.Nov 05 17:22
cubezzzI think I found IBM 701 docs easier :-PNov 05 17:22
gnufreex1995 or soNov 05 17:22
cubezzzand that's 50'sNov 05 17:22
cubezzzas in 1950sNov 05 17:22
gnufreexWell, that is historic device.Nov 05 17:23
gnufreexlolNov 05 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @richslxh nah, I am going through Italian Telecom.Nov 05 17:23
cubezzzprobably IBM was one of the first companies to be on the web (I would think)Nov 05 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @karsten hold your horses ;-) But you can meet good people there (me! and @webmink, and Lagrein, and others) :-PNov 05 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @carlopiana under that law, what are the practical ID requirements for IP over carrier pidgeon? ;-)Nov 05 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: The Hole Is A Lie: Real Life Portal T-Shirt http://bit.ly/cLPPXJNov 05 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hole Is A Lie: Real Life Portal T-Shirt - Geekologie .::. Size~: 53.08 KBNov 05 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @carlopiana Then wait a while and see if your ISP's DNS refreshes. Try going to a Spanish site via a free US/UK proxy.Nov 05 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How default app installs, such as #joomla, can compromise #Apache http://bit.ly/bl6WBINov 05 17:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How default app installs can compromise Apache .::. Size~: 106.35 KBNov 05 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/11/dell-moves-25000-employees-from-blackberry-to-windows-phone-7.ars #dell #FAILNov 05 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @marcelobranco: Contra o controle e a vigilância na Internet. Contra a criminalização do P2P http://ur1.ca/29ue1 #Ai5Digital #MeganaoNov 05 17:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dell moves 25,000 employees from BlackBerry to Windows Phone 7 .::. Size~: 29.52 KBNov 05 17:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sorrateiramente, AI-5 Digital avança no Congresso Nacional - Portal Vermelho .::. Size~: 25.98 KBNov 05 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #ubuntu: no !gnome shell but #unity, no #X but Wayland, what's next? No !gnu ? http://ur1.ca/29xjwNov 05 17:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux beyond X: Shuttleworth contemplates Wayland .::. Size~: 32.39 KBNov 05 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @rysiek: "Philosophers want to make money too! By thinking for free you destroy professional Philosophy!"Nov 05 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] RT @carlopiana Decreto Pisanu non più http://ur1.ca/29x8t - da verificare (Stupid wi-fi regulation requiring ID registration &other crap ...Nov 05 17:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ZEUS News - Notizie dall'Olimpo informatico .::. Size~: 27.17 KBNov 05 17:48
*cubezzz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Nov 05 17:51
*cubezzz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrightsNov 05 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Short look at this week's Enterprise Linux news: http://bit.ly/dk4PHh #linux #fedora #zend #zendconNov 05 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Just released Linux Outlaws 173 - GPL Black Ops http://ur1.ca/29xmwNov 05 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @karsten Lessig calls #WIPO to lead overhaul of a copyright system that "never will make sense in digital environment" http://ur1.ca/ ...Nov 05 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Outlaws 173 - GPL Black Ops — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 12.42 KBNov 05 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 1.87 KBNov 05 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Just released Linux Outlaws 173 - GPL Black Ops http://ur1.ca/29xmw !loNov 05 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Attention Berlin Germany EFF Members!!! Meet with EFF Senior Staff Attorney Kurt Opsahl https://eff.org/r.1tPNov 05 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Outlaws 173 - GPL Black Ops — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 12.42 KBNov 05 17:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Members-Only Speakeasy: Berlin | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 16.88 KBNov 05 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] only when it is dark enough you can see the stars. #martinlutherking quoting with an #ambient beatNov 05 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RIM announced they are supports Lotus Domino...I didn't know it was still being used.Nov 05 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Welcomes New Activist Rainey Reitman https://eff.org/r.t8SNov 05 17:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF Welcomes New Activist Rainey Reitman | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 17.11 KBNov 05 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Running out the door now to get to the rehearsal weekend in Simmerath. Catch you all later..Nov 05 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/413550/rssNov 05 17:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Friday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.53 KBNov 05 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @charlesschulz My links for the beginning of November, along with a very interesting paper on OOXML: http://ur1.ca/29wzl #ooxml #failNov 05 18:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moved by Freedom  Powered by Standards » Links for the beginning of November .::. Size~: 40.83 KBNov 05 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @schestowitz: "In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep." ~Albert EinsteinNov 05 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Uncertain future for climate legislation) http://ur1.ca/29xrgNov 05 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @rms: (Uncertain future for climate legislation) http://ur1.ca/29xrgNov 05 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Code Sprint: Nov 18, 19 - 2010 : Register Here: http://bit.ly/bkdKha (Free and Lunch included). Work on D7, J1.6, Unit Tests etc ..Nov 05 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CiviCRM Code and Test Sprint San Francisco - Nov 2010 | CiviCRM Community Site .::. Size~: 16.72 KBNov 05 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @mairin I guess it depends on what the footnote says ;-) I wouldn't be happy if it sounded like non-Free firmware is not a problemNov 05 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @mairin but, really, it would be more honest if Fedora didn't attempt to portray itself as something it isn'tNov 05 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @mairin I'd prefer if Fedora *could* say it is Free, but deceiving users does them no good: it feeds the problemNov 05 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft releases F# under open source license (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/atKH2aNov 05 18:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft releases F# under open source license | Developer World - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 87.95 KBNov 05 18:58
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@87.112.148.6) has joined #techrightsNov 05 18:58
*ThistleWeb has quit (Changing host)Nov 05 18:58
*ThistleWeb (~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #techrightsNov 05 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "It is not part of Labour politics to try to win elections by saying things that are not true." only start wars http://bbc.in/bbrs3nNov 05 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Shadow minister Woolas vows to fight election decision .::. Size~: 58.41 KBNov 05 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Sakineh Ashtiani may hang) http://ur1.ca/29y89Nov 05 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Portuguese president Cavaco Silva is releasing content under CC BY in his bid for re-election: http://bit.ly/950YgQ & http://snd.sc/cpnOHlNov 05 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flickr: Cavaco Silva 2011's Photostream .::. Size~: 54.86 KBNov 05 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CavacoSilva2011 - Tracks -  SoundCloud .::. Size~: 39.88 KBNov 05 19:08
*ml2mst (541c472c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.28.71.44) has joined #techrightsNov 05 19:15
ml2mstOdd, i can't "/join #techrights" via XChat... Whatever ;-)Nov 05 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New vision of a rejected Labour party? More of the same old, same old http://bit.ly/cYfYt7 #unellectableNov 05 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Labour will not campaign for alternative vote, says Andy Burnham | Politics | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 117.23 KBNov 05 19:17
ml2mstGood evening everybody!Nov 05 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if the Tories think they could be made accidentally popular by virtue of a typo in the red half of Liverpool #tores !lfcNov 05 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] I miss translating.Nov 05 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Meet the !GNOME Outreach Program for #Women interns! http://goo.gl/ESQVuNov 05 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meet the GNOME Outreach Program for Women interns! «  Marina'z Blog .::. Size~: 15.33 KBNov 05 19:23
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Cook's Magazine Claims Web Is Public Domain http://bit.ly/d3vl83Nov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] ITU's Definition Aside, T-Mobile Pushes 4G Label In New Ad Campaign http://bit.ly/9mFo5qNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Fwd: Sorry IE9. W3C Clarifies Results of Recent HTML5 Compliance Tests http://rww.to/9HZ2x5 (via http://ff.im/taQ6U) http://ff.im/taQyeNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] RT @vincentvq: Speech in Charlemagne building The EU Patent Ten Years On: Time Is Running Out 1 octrooi in de ganse EU=25K EUR US=1.850K EURNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] How Cooks Source Magazine Learned That Reputation Is A Scarce Good... As Reddit Applies The Social Mores Of Justice http://dlvr.it/82R0kNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Julian Assange intends to seek asylum in Switzerland (video) | http://is.gd/gIYSPTSRNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Doing Digital Art When You Can't Use Your Hand? http://bit.ly/ccrniUNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] Mathematical methods are only excluded as such (A 52(3) http://ur1.ca/29os3Nov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Julian Assange intends to seek asylum in Switzerland (video, fix link) | http://is.gd/gJ0iUNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Cook's Magazine Claims Web Is Public Domain .::. Size~: 171.33 KBNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Good US debate panel on WikiLeaks | RT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3yyxn3_N5sNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | ITU's Definition Aside, T-Mobile Pushes 4G Label In New Ad Campaign .::. Size~: 148.11 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sorry IE9.  W3C Clarifies Results of Recent HTML5 Compliance Tests .::. Size~: 62.24 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FriendFeed .::. Size~: 12.42 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fwd: Sorry IE9. W3C Clarifies Results of Recent... - Toby Thain - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 6.95 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Cooks Source Magazine Learned That Reputation Is A Scarce Good... As Reddit Applies The Social Mores Of Justice | Techdirt .::. Size~: 99.62 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: is.gd - Forwarding Script .::. Size~: 1.04 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | Doing Digital Art When You Can't Use Your Hand? .::. Size~: 144.11 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The IPKat: T 784/06 - "technical effect" reaches bioinformatics .::. Size~: 102.56 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian Assange compte demander l'asile en Suisse - tsr.ch - info - suisse .::. Size~: 48.08 KBNov 05 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - CrossTalk on WikiLeaks: Rocky Road to Truth?   .::. Size~: 142.33 KBNov 05 19:25
-TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] Software Patents in the EU like a letter to the post: http://ur1.ca/29ou0Nov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Why Newspapers make you stupid http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/2660/why-newspapers-make-you-stupid/Nov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] #ORD #United security queue is more than one hour deep.Nov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Norwegian US spy ring that may have monitored WikiLeaks event in Oslo at Grand Hotel, busted http://is.gd/gJ35wNov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Swedes Show Intel Sandy Bridge Running BIOS-Successor UEFI http://bit.ly/cNxLCgNov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @sheeri @qu1j0t3 #Oracle did NOT remove #innodb; they added a FREE embedded version that's MyISAM only. http://bit.ly/bx6y30Nov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Colleges Experimenting With Bulk-Buying E-Textbooks... And Forcing Students To Pay Up http://dlvr.it/82YFRNov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] "US regrets all of the activities that WikiLeaks has done--past, present, and future" http://is.gd/gJ8qtNov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Tesla Roadster Data Logging Format Reverse Engineered http://bit.ly/azLR6QNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Calendar - Competitiveness Council .::. Size~: 9.91 KBNov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Flash Can Rob 2 Hours From MacBook Air's Battery Life http://bit.ly/dCElSONov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Express Tribune Blog - Latest Breaking Pakistan News, Business, Life, Style, Cricket, Videos, Comments .::. Size~: 37.8 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Translate .::. Size~: 1.23 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Swedes Show Intel Sandy Bridge Running BIOS-Successor UEFI .::. Size~: 158.28 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Page not found | Palomino DB .::. Size~: 7.89 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Colleges Experimenting With Bulk-Buying E-Textbooks... And Forcing Students To Pay Up | Techdirt .::. Size~: 67.06 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Press Briefing - November 4, 2010 .::. Size~: 89.91 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Developers Story | Tesla Roadster Data Logging Format Reverse Engineered .::. Size~: 139.34 KBNov 05 19:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Apple Story | Flash Can Rob 2 Hours From MacBook Air's Battery Life .::. Size~: 158.42 KBNov 05 19:28
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] INBOX ZERO! SCREW YOU, EMAIL...HA! (sorry, this is a big deal after all the email I got in the last few weeks) :-)Nov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Surprising, But Good, News: FTC Appoints Ed Felten As CTO http://dlvr.it/82hY4Nov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] God, #Vimeo's embed options are backwards. No way to eliminate text, do no-cookie embeds, or resize.Nov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Awesome story of Dustin meeting his childhood hero - http://is.gd/gJjSA - hope you are reading this, Nicko McBrain... :-)Nov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Plans Tonight: work out, rehearse music, tidy up, record video, lil work, kiss wife when she gets in from trip. Perfect! :-)Nov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Ministry Of Sound Ditches File Sharing Lawsuits After It Finds Out That BT Actually Protects User Privcy http://dlvr.it/82tnTNov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Researcher To Release Web-Based Android Attack http://bit.ly/cZwM7HNov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] work out and rehearsal done. now catching up on some work reviewing the strategy for my team in this cycle. :-) #ubuntuNov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] World's Northernmost Town Gets Nightlights http://bit.ly/acnSBeNov 05 19:31
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Making Our World More Respectful - http://is.gd/gJC8N #communityNov 05 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Surprising, But Good, News: FTC Appoints Ed Felten As CTO | Techdirt .::. Size~: 38.25 KBNov 05 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From the Canyon Edge - :-Dustin Kirkland: Meeting your Childhood Hero .::. Size~: 50.18 KBNov 05 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ministry Of Sound Ditches File Sharing Lawsuits After It Finds Out That BT Actually Protects User Privcy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.06 KBNov 05 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot IT Story | Researcher To Release Web-Based Android Attack .::. Size~: 138.45 KBNov 05 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Idle Story | World's Northernmost Town Gets Nightlights .::. Size~: 122.17 KBNov 05 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                   Making Our World More Respectful | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 115.26 KBNov 05 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Weekend Project: Get to Know Your Source Code with FOSSology (Linux.com) http://lwn.net/Articles/413589/rssNov 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Oh dear ML2MST Phoenix Telnet BBS is going down for maintenance for about an hour. All sorts of weird thing happen while connection to IRCNov 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'll keep in touch!Nov 05 19:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Weekend Project: Get to Know Your Source Code with FOSSology (Linux.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.38 KBNov 05 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @evan is denting twitter accounts official yet? http://evan.status.net/conversation/360241Nov 05 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Trying to connect to #techrights IRC obviousle freaks out EleBBS all of a sudden. Welcome to the 21'st century and TCP/IP :-pNov 05 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Evan Prodromou .::. Size~: 14.06 KBNov 05 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Anyone else's #timetravel fantasy to go back to 1978 and buy Bjarne Stroustrup a book on #Lisp?Nov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] It will please y'all no end to know that @ xah_lee is on the @twitter. #usenetNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Jury Finds Terra Firma Just Made A Bad Deal In Buying EMI http://dlvr.it/8399HNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] MT @schestowitz #Microsoft trying to subvert #SVG http://ur.ly/red6 http://ur.ly/rxcz http://ur.ly/rnPT http://ur.ly/rrdx #fraud #html5 #ieNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] iFixit Tears Down Microsoft's Kinect For Xbox 360 http://bit.ly/aIUcTRNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] great write-up on the Monkeysphere - pretty funny too - http://is.gd/gJMLRNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] The Problems With Letting Child Porn Victims Demand Cash From Those Caught With Their Images http://dlvr.it/83XtrNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jury Finds Terra Firma Just Made A Bad Deal In Buying EMI | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.82 KBNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] CDN Optimizing HTML On the Fly http://bit.ly/dtpjhwNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Iraqi torture known to Danish ministry | Icenews http://is.gd/gK3RGNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Might Embrace and Extend SVG | Techrights .::. Size~: 103.8 KBNov 05 19:35
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Blood on Our Hands | Foreign Policy http://is.gd/gK4fANov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “On the SVG List, a Couple of People [Are] Leery of Microsoft.” | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.43 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Continues to Distort the Word Open and Harm SVG Using Proprietary VML | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.96 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Novell Helps Microsofts Fight Against Ajax, Web Standards, SVG | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.35 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | iFixit Tears Down Microsoft's Kinect For Xbox 360 .::. Size~: 166.63 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What is the Monkeysphere? | Cracked.com .::. Size~: 87.31 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Problems With Letting Child Porn Victims Demand Cash From Those Caught With Their Images | Techdirt .::. Size~: 80.45 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | CDN Optimizing HTML On the Fly .::. Size~: 143.3 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iraqi torture known to Danish Ministry | IceNews - Daily News .::. Size~: 63.61 KBNov 05 19:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blood on Our Hands: What WikiLeaks Revealed about the Iraqi Death Toll - By Ellen Knickmeyer  | Foreign Policy .::. Size~: 83.27 KBNov 05 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Shutting ML2MST Phoenix Telnet BBS down - now!Nov 05 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @evan I noticed that you sent a couple of dents to twitter users and they appear in your timeline. How does this work?Nov 05 19:37
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] If You Discover A Privacy Data Breach, You Probably Shouldn't Wait Three Months To Tell Users http://dlvr.it/83x3nNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Radio report on WikiLeaks in Switzerland | WRS http://is.gd/gK7mgNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks : la guerre contre le secret | ARTE http://www.arte.tv/fr/3504250.html#left_contentNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] EU Commission Says People Have a 'Right To Be Forgotten' Online http://bit.ly/bXiUUcNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] Four Android Apps to Use for Daily Reading: Spice Mines of Kessel: "In addition to books, I also like to read va... http://bit.ly/dtlNWLNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Nearly Every Company That Hates Google Piles On To Rosetta Stone Case http://dlvr.it/84CMsNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Nicaragua Raids Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps http://bit.ly/dgk8JLNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If You Discover A Privacy Data Breach, You Probably Shouldn't Wait Three Months To Tell Users | Techdirt .::. Size~: 58.15 KBNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @TonyClement_MP: What fiction! Fair dealing never unfettered rt to copy http://bit.ly/cZRJoX Copyright bill guts Cdn cultureNov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Microsoft Open Sources F# http://bit.ly/beDHC7Nov 05 19:38
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @JesseBrown: I don't care who Access © gets to write their propaganda:it's lies, not opinion & Globe shdn't print it http://bit.ly/aexE5eNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WRS | WikiLeaks: U.S. must probe alleged abuse .::. Size~: 39.42 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks : la guerre contre le secret - ARTE .::. Size~: 54.84 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | EU Commission Says People Have a 'Right To Be Forgotten' Online .::. Size~: 153.3 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - Four Android Apps to Use for Daily Reading .::. Size~: 77.36 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nearly Every Company That Hates Google Piles On To Rosetta Stone Case | Techdirt .::. Size~: 50.25 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | Nicaragua Raids Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps .::. Size~: 148.38 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This updated copyright bill guts Canadian culture - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 76.12 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Microsoft Open Sources F# .::. Size~: 145.49 KBNov 05 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This updated copyright bill guts Canadian culture - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 76.01 KBNov 05 19:38
ml2mstI'm out of here for now, will reconnect in a couple of minutesNov 05 19:39
*ml2mst has quit ()Nov 05 19:39
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] 2nd Errata document for ODF 1.0 published. Get yer corrections while they're hot! http://bit.ly/cHFupaNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] The U.S. Influence on Bill C-32 Hits The House of Commons Debate: opposition MPs on US copyright pressure http://bit.ly/bmR6tjNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Ubuntu Dumps X For Unity On Wayland http://bit.ly/bblP4CNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Lawsuit Settled After Cop Revealed Anonymous Blogger To His Church, Then Destroyed Records To 'Protect Civil Rights' http://dlvr.it/84QnjNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @mpjamesmoore: Bill C-32, Copyright Modernization Act, has passed 2nd reading in Parliament and is now off to committeeNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Apple To Discontinue Xserve http://bit.ly/dttPkANov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Opposition Responses to C-32's Digital Lock Rules - The Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnTLK4c7U08Nov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Now That Apple Has A Trademark On 'There's An App For That,' Will It Sue Sesame Street? http://dlvr.it/84ZQhNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @ak_kim0: Cloud Computing 101: Everything you wanted to ask about #cloud and was afraid to ask :) http://goo.gl/S4V3yNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] ZOO CITY - fantastic, super-noir South African urban fantasy by @laurenbeukes http://tinyurl.com/23cn4gpNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Ubuntu Dumps X For Unity On Wayland .::. Size~: 173.53 KBNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawsuit Settled After Cop Revealed Anonymous Blogger To His Church, Then Destroyed Records To 'Protect Civil Rights' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 77.72 KBNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Apple Story | Apple To Discontinue Xserve .::. Size~: 153.92 KBNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - No Support From The Liberals, NDP or Bloc For Bill C-32's Digital Lock Provisions   .::. Size~: 75.26 KBNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Now That Apple Has A Trademark On 'There's An App For That,' Will It Sue Sesame Street? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.67 KBNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Boss: Cloud Computing 101 .::. Size~: 52.21 KBNov 05 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zoo City: hard-boiled South African urban fantasy makes murder out of magic - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.49 KBNov 05 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Scientists Overclock People's Brains http://bit.ly/awrVPyNov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[rcweir] Welcome to the newest members of the OASIS ODF TC, Robin and Tristan from DeltaXML http://bit.ly/abCuWG We now have 55 members!Nov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] What happened to Citizendium? Follow the money. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Citizendium#FinancesNov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Nicaragua Accidentally Invades Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps http://dlvr.it/84jP0Nov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] EPIC Files Lawsuit To Suspend Airport Body Scanner Use http://bit.ly/c4iK37Nov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@mediatemple Care to share your feelings on discontinuation of #Xserve? #apple #osxNov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] #Minneapolis's Crutchfield Dermatology claims copyright over EVERYTHING you write to stop public complaints http://tinyurl.com/2b7df5xNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Scientists Overclock People's Brains .::. Size~: 140.38 KBNov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Tom Chatfield's excellent history of #WorldofWarcraft patches/updates, CATACLYSM COMING http://tinyurl.com/24pkz4cNov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Firefox 4 Beta For Mobile Now Faster and Sleeker http://bit.ly/anzN5zNov 05 19:45
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Why The Jammie Thomas Verdicts Return Such Huge Amounts Per Song Shared: It's All About The Framing http://dlvr.it/84qrQNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Talk:Citizendium - RationalWiki .::. Size~: 86.06 KBNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nicaragua Accidentally Invades Costa Rica, Blames Google Maps | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.09 KBNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | EPIC Files Lawsuit To Suspend Airport Body Scanner Use .::. Size~: 164.51 KBNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crutchfield Dermatology of Minneapolis claims copyright in everything you write, forever, to keep you from posting complaints on the net - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 75.39 KBNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cataclysm Coming: how the WoW expansion will change MMO gaming - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 70.55 KBNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Firefox 4 Beta For Mobile Now Faster and Sleeker .::. Size~: 106.93 KBNov 05 19:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why The Jammie Thomas Verdicts Return Such Huge Amounts Per Song Shared: It's All About The Framing | Techdirt .::. Size~: 135.59 KBNov 05 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Cloud Computing: Why You Can't Ignore Chargeback (Network World): http://bit.ly/bdPrGNNov 05 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cloud Computing: Why You Can't Ignore Chargeback .::. Size~: 107.68 KBNov 05 19:47
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @DaHammerstein: 70+ MEPs demand legally binding Treaty for exception to copyright for visually impaired http://bit.ly/deN419Nov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] $2,000 Bounty For Open Source Xbox Kinect Drivers http://bit.ly/bAbCJlNov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Cooks Source Editor Finally Responds... Makes Things Worse http://dlvr.it/84xn2Nov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Skin-Tight Bodysuits Could Protect Astronauts From Bone Loss http://bit.ly/c0YZsXNov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @jamie_love: European generic drug companies ask EU Parliament to remove patents from #ACTA http://keionline.org/node/1009Nov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @newsycombinator "Please take this down and write your own book." Zed Shaw http://j.mp/c398wh // He always was an #asshat. #ruby #pythonNov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Hulu Plus Now Available To All — But Be Warned http://bit.ly/dvb6nDNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IP Policy Committee blog  » Blog Archive   »  70  MEPS CALL ON EU TO SUPPORT RIGHT TO READ TREATY AT WIPO .::. Size~: 11.91 KBNov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] WikiLeaks Geneva press conference video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcQpV3pWmy4Nov 05 19:48
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Check out the GNOME Outreach Program for Women Interns - great work! http://is.gd/gL1vb #gnomeNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | $2,000 Bounty For Open Source Xbox Kinect Drivers .::. Size~: 145.56 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cooks Source Editor Finally Responds... Makes Things Worse | Techdirt .::. Size~: 66.02 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Skin-Tight Bodysuits Could Protect Astronauts From Bone Loss .::. Size~: 130.54 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European generic drug companies ask EU Parliament to remove patents from ACTA | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 27.38 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Issues - martinemde/learn-ruby-the-hard-way - GitHub .::. Size~: 67.11 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Entertainment Story | Hulu Plus Now Available To All &mdash; But Be Warned .::. Size~: 136.53 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - Part 1 (of 4): Julian Assange Wikileaks founder Press Conference, Geneva, Switzerland 11/04/2010   .::. Size~: 120.33 KBNov 05 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meet the GNOME Outreach Program for Women interns! «  Marina'z Blog .::. Size~: 15.33 KBNov 05 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Check out the GNOME Outreach Program for Women Interns - great work! http://is.gd/gL1vb #gnomeNov 05 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meet the GNOME Outreach Program for Women interns! «  Marina'z Blog .::. Size~: 15.33 KBNov 05 19:50
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] College Application Inflation — Marketing Meets Admissions http://bit.ly/bTtHLRNov 05 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | College Application Inflation &mdash; Marketing Meets Admissions .::. Size~: 50.86 KBNov 05 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst I'm back, can you reenter the channel?Nov 05 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Pioneer Awards are this Monday! Meet 2010 Pioneer Award Winners, EFF Staff, Founders and Luminaries! https://eff.org/r.5tuNov 05 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 125 dents!Nov 05 19:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Electronic Frontier Foundation:  .::. Size~: 14.89 KBNov 05 19:57
*ThistleWeb has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)Nov 05 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 'Net pioneers: Open Internet should be separate - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/b0BAhsNov 05 20:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Net pioneers: Open Internet should be separate - Computerworld .::. Size~: 85.42 KBNov 05 20:00
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Is There Anything Lamer Than Facebook Threatening Lamebook With Trademark Infringement? http://dlvr.it/858JtNov 05 20:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is There Anything Lamer Than Facebook Threatening Lamebook With Trademark Infringement? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 31.7 KBNov 05 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @rysiek "Philosophers want to make money too! By thinking for free you destroy professional Philosophy!" - !q !cc !linuxNov 05 20:05
MinceRlolNov 05 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does the Hero come with lots of company "trials" @popey, or is it a relatively clean !Android install?Nov 05 20:08
*ml2mst (~marti@541C472C.cm-5-5b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrightsNov 05 20:09
schestowitzHiNov 05 20:09
schestowitzBTWNov 05 20:09
schestowitz[19:27] --> OneShot-OneKill has joined this channel (~jpv@cpe-74-77-128-95.buffalo.res.rr.com).Nov 05 20:10
schestowitzVery oddNov 05 20:10
schestowitzMaybe a troll following youNov 05 20:10
ml2mstGood evening, rebooted GNU/Linux on my Athlon XP. This works better than before. Unfortunately the English Spell Checking sucks :-(Nov 05 20:18
ml2mstUsing XChat (again)Nov 05 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Partly Microsoft-Owned #Facebook Integrates Further With #Microsoft http://ur.ly/rB7vNov 05 20:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Partly Microsoft-Owned Facebook Integrates Further With Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 78.97 KBNov 05 20:18
schestowitz_Goblin and I record soonNov 05 20:22
schestowitzBut we can have you on any weekNov 05 20:22
schestowitzWe want to have guests to involve everyone that supports us]Nov 05 20:22
ml2mst@schestowitz: what would you and _goblin want me to talk about? Retro BBS stuff, my experience as a GNU/Linux desktop user or Creative Commons?Nov 05 20:24
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Cooks Source Editor Finally Responds... Makes Things Worse [Updated] http://dlvr.it/85B6xNov 05 20:25
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Sorry, Net Neutrality Simply Was Not An Important Issue In This Year's Election http://dlvr.it/85B7hNov 05 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cooks Source Editor Finally Responds... Makes Things Worse [Updated] | Techdirt .::. Size~: 71.57 KBNov 05 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sorry, Net Neutrality Simply Was Not An Important Issue In This Year's Election | Techdirt .::. Size~: 31.72 KBNov 05 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LPC: Life after X http://lwn.net/Articles/413335/rssNov 05 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: Pioneer Awards are this Monday! Meet 2010 Pioneer Award Winners, EFF Staff, Founders and Luminaries! https://eff.org/r.5tuNov 05 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Electronic Frontier Foundation:  .::. Size~: 14.89 KBNov 05 20:25
schestowitzml2mst: need to ask TIm tooNov 05 20:26
schestowitzBut as least I know we can have you on a future showNov 05 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF Welcomes New Activist Rainey Reitman https://eff.org/r.t8SNov 05 20:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF Welcomes New Activist Rainey Reitman | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 17.11 KBNov 05 20:27
schestowitzAnd you're rarely on IRC... you used to hang outNov 05 20:27
ml2mst@schestowitz: I understand, (Tim) has to be involved. Don't bother, I'll stick around @ techrights IRC tonight ;-)Nov 05 20:28
schestowitzYes, he usually comes here laterNov 05 20:28
ml2mst@schestowitz: that's fine, I'll stick around anyway ;-)Nov 05 20:30
ml2mst@schestowtiz: I realy loved the first edtion of TechBytes. Having the most interesting "geeks" in a single show. WAY COOL!Nov 05 20:34
hazzyLOL "Security Crisis in Windows Provides Excuse for Microsoft to Take More Control of Windows"Nov 05 20:37
hazzyThey never cease to amazeNov 05 20:37
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] MS Adds Security Suite To Update Service, Antivirus Rival Objects http://bit.ly/cP3VsYNov 05 20:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot IT Story | MS Adds Security Suite To Update Service, Antivirus Rival Objects .::. Size~: 53.4 KBNov 05 20:38
ml2mstMicrosoft Windows is such a great piece of software <NOT>Nov 05 20:38
schestowitzml2mst: thanks. Glad you liked it.Nov 05 20:38
ml2mstFinaly Windows XP SP3 NL is ready to use. It took friggin FIVE HOURS (including updates and virus updates).Nov 05 20:39
ml2mstSjees, as a GNU/Linux user I am not used to crap like this :-(Nov 05 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Surrenders to !GNU !Linux in the Servers Market (XServe is Dead) http://ur.ly/ryM0Nov 05 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Surrenders to GNU/Linux in the Servers Market (XServe is Dead) | Techrights .::. Size~: 79.78 KBNov 05 20:42
hazzyUbuntu dumped X? Wtf?Nov 05 20:42
ml2mst@hazzy WTF are you talking about? IIRC Ubuntu didn't dump X at all, they dumped Gnome in favor of Unity.Nov 05 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Tolerating UbuntuNov 05 20:43
hazzyOh, Slashdot had a bad headlineNov 05 20:44
hazzyNvmNov 05 20:44
ml2mst@hazzy LOL :-)Nov 05 20:44
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] anyone want to create me a really cool single color (white on transparent background) Open Respect logo? #openrespectNov 05 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] anyone want to create me a really cool single color (white on transparent background) Open Respect logo? #openrespectNov 05 20:45
hazzyOh, wait noNov 05 20:46
hazzySlashdot has a bad headline stillNov 05 20:47
hazzyBut, Ubuntu IS dumping XNov 05 20:47
hazzyhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/05/137212/Ubuntu-Dumps-X-For-Unity-On-WaylandNov 05 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Ubuntu Dumps X For Unity On Wayland .::. Size~: 173.54 KBNov 05 20:47
ml2mst@hazzy, Oj, that's quite a diferent story, thanks ;-)Nov 05 20:49
gnufreexI just hate shuttlecrook. Ubuntu will destroy everything if this continues http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551Nov 05 20:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth  » Blog Archive   » Unity on Wayland .::. Size~: 106.99 KBNov 05 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A recent post by reminded me of diaspora. I haven't thought about it in weeks. How many of the !lo crowd have joined, or might join?Nov 05 20:55
dyfetLike so many, they do not actually understand XNov 05 20:55
gnufreexThey are idiots, they don't understand free software, they don't understand open development (abysmal contributor agreements!) they don't understand X, UNIX... idiots.Nov 05 20:56
hazzygnufreex: Was your download of Fedora 14 ok?Nov 05 20:57
gnufreexYes, I am writting from Fedora 14Nov 05 20:57
gnufreex:-)Nov 05 20:57
hazzyOh, goodNov 05 20:57
dyfetWhat is really needed is a desktop env that fully leverages X rather than leverages client shackled desktop...Nov 05 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @evan any plans to adopt it for community sites like identi.ca?Nov 05 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Have I mentioned how much I like #gPodder! :DNov 05 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Not many, I'd guess. Sadly, I think the moment has passed !loNov 05 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This must be the quietest bonfire night I can remember - almost eerily quietNov 05 21:02
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] Fwd: Lucas (9) to me: "You don't use #Facebook and you don't use #Gmail. What's wrong with you?" (via... http://ff.im/teIEmNov 05 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fwd: Lucas (9) to me: "You don't use #Facebook... - Toby Thain - FriendFeed .::. Size~: 6.89 KBNov 05 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @b1ackcr0w: Woot! #lo Finally got a Fedora distro to work properly. Fedora14 might finally have won me ...Nov 05 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @odequero: Microsoft Releases F# Under Open Source [Apache] License (PC World) - http://newzfor.me/?9kljNov 05 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Releases F# Under Open Source License     (PC World) .::. Size~: 23.67 KBNov 05 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @rayentray: @ladymeng raise you voice against the hegemony of the pelotudeishon!Nov 05 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @aurele: @fauno libre kernel 2.6.36-3 64 bit for parabola online in ~20 min enjoy Freedom !linuxlibreNov 05 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Bombing wave in Iraq) http://ur1.ca/29zabNov 05 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] *Happy Dance* finally got the outline finished *woo hoo* !NaNoWriMoNov 05 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @gilfran: Queria poder dizer que era saindo pro #ENSL, mas não deu... Queria ir rever os amigos e amigas =[ /RD +1 :-/ #groundedNov 05 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Let the world know: The JSON.org license http://www.crockford.com/JSON/license.html is not #free or #opensourceNov 05 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Remember remember the 5th of november...Nov 05 21:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The JSON License .::. Size~: 1.71 KBNov 05 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple is Kicking Out Free Software and Getting Sued http://ur.ly/rAkQ !fsNov 05 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple is Kicking Out Free Software and Getting Sued | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.12 KBNov 05 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @fontana: Let the world know: The JSON.org license http://www.crockford.com/JSON/license.html is not #free or #opensourceNov 05 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The JSON License .::. Size~: 1.71 KBNov 05 21:20
*Tekk_ (~user@71.77.209.233) has joined #techrightsNov 05 21:20
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] NASA's Stunning Close-Up Photos of Comet Hartley 2 http://bit.ly/9f0zfhNov 05 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | NASA's Stunning Close-Up Photos of Comet Hartley 2 .::. Size~: 49.7 KBNov 05 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Great, 1.5M goes to RIAA so it can sue more young people for sharing. http://ur1.ca/29zd4 I wonder what !cc'd do with all that money.Nov 05 21:22
Tekk_schestowitz: you wanna correct your apple kicking out free software article? I can easily imagine apple blocking vlc having something to do with that gpl violation issueNov 05 21:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    RIAA Wins Big Against File-Sharer, $1.5M for 24 Songs | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 131.3 KBNov 05 21:22
dyfetI wonder if it constitutes restraint of trade...Nov 05 21:24
Tekk_dyfet: hmm?Nov 05 21:25
dyfetClearly it also has class action potential...Nov 05 21:25
Tekk_dyfet: What are you talking aboutNov 05 21:26
dyfetApple's exclusion of GPL softwareNov 05 21:26
Tekk_nah, I'll bet you a stick of RAM that somewhere in the development agreement apple reserves the right to kill off any program for any reasonNov 05 21:27
dyfetBut if it explicitly excludes a class or group...that is a bit different regardless.  It's like saying a restaurant reserves the right to eject any patron, so it is legal to eject all non-white patrons...Nov 05 21:28
schestowitzTekk_: correct how?Nov 05 21:29
Tekk_dyfet: I'd say it's still legal because they have to seriously change how the store works to complyNov 05 21:29
schestowitzIt's not the first timeNov 05 21:30
schestowitzApple asked to comply with GPLNov 05 21:30
schestowitzInstead they toss out the s/wNov 05 21:30
schestowitzArrogantNov 05 21:30
Tekk_schestowitz: not to sound like an apologist but they would have to completely change their infrastructure to allow one program onNov 05 21:30
dyfetIn what way would they have to change their store in respect to GPL software?Nov 05 21:31
schestowitzI didn't say that it was the issueNov 05 21:31
schestowitzI just said Apple rejected this popular FS programNov 05 21:31
Tekk_you have to change it to check the license and if it's gpl not add the drmNov 05 21:31
schestowitzImagine if everyone uses hypeSomethingNov 05 21:31
schestowitzAnd dyfet wanted to bring gnu telephony to peopleNov 05 21:31
schestowitzHe's totally at Apple's mercyNov 05 21:31
schestowitzThey monopolise application installation gatewayNov 05 21:32
schestowitzThe -thought- app policeNov 05 21:32
Tekk_unless you jailbreak it, which is now backed up to be legal :PNov 05 21:32
dyfetI find this fascinating.  You have to give them the right to tamper with your software (infect it with DRM) to have it distributed?Nov 05 21:32
schestowitzThat's not legal from their POVNov 05 21:32
schestowitzAnd they spread ACTA+DMCANov 05 21:32
Tekk_I find it interesting that people tout android as the "open" and "free" choiceNov 05 21:33
Tekk_yet I wonder how much software in the marketplace is actually freeNov 05 21:34
dyfetWell, this is why freedom 0 was always the most essential...all others require it...Nov 05 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Is it sad that most people don't even realize I'm trollin' them?Nov 05 21:35
Tekk_dyfet: actually none of the other freedoms require 1Nov 05 21:35
Tekk_sorry, 0Nov 05 21:35
dyfetif you cannot rebuild and then run it, what is the freedom of having source and being able to modify it?Nov 05 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Quoth @davidmarsden: Congrats to @psquid & @reality on CLI client #Identicurse - http://ur1.ca/29zh2Nov 05 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Psychedelic Squid » IdentiCurse .::. Size~: 9.63 KBNov 05 21:37
Tekk_freedom 0 means you can use it however you wantNov 05 21:37
Tekk_I can easily imagine a program that will be free in all other senses, yet will forbid, say, military useNov 05 21:37
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Lessig Asks WIPO To Overhaul Copyright; Not Designed For When Every Use Is A Copy http://dlvr.it/85HwxNov 05 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lessig Asks WIPO To Overhaul Copyright; Not Designed For When Every Use Is A Copy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 22.67 KBNov 05 21:38
dyfetYes, people are walking around with some 3 pounds of unlicensed meatware that copies everything in sight and sound ;)Nov 05 21:44
Tekk_3 lbs?Nov 05 21:46
Tekk_I'd lean more towards 7Nov 05 21:46
Tekk_a human head is maybe down to 5Nov 05 21:47
Tekk_blehNov 05 21:47
Tekk_maybe down to 5*Nov 05 21:47
Tekk_since a human head is 10 lbsNov 05 21:47
Tekk_and how much else is thereNov 05 21:47
dyfetIn some cases rather thick skulls ;)Nov 05 21:47
Tekk_hehNov 05 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Betrays #Xbox Live Developers http://ur.ly/rvEHNov 05 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Betrays Xbox Live Developers | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.46 KBNov 05 21:48
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitzNov 05 21:49
*schestowitz gives channel operator status to amarsh04 MinceRNov 05 21:49
*schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitzNov 05 21:49
Tekk_http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/nodes/3262/strip.jpg actually I DON'T like talking to people on a phone..Nov 05 21:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 05 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] dear cse101: GTFO.Nov 05 21:57
*dyfet has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)Nov 05 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] This Friday's Linux.com Featured Merchandise. Did you say "Baseball?": http://bit.ly/d4yl3N #linuxNov 05 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux.com Store .::. Size~: 45.63 KBNov 05 22:07
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Major Security Holes Found In Mobile Bank Apps http://bit.ly/a8aTHGNov 05 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Mobile Story | Major Security Holes Found In Mobile Bank Apps .::. Size~: 50.24 KBNov 05 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @evan you're right, I look forward to migrate to my status.net acct, but need migration pathNov 05 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Yes and no on new marijuana legislation) http://ur1.ca/29zqkNov 05 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Doing a fresh reinstall if Ubuntu Linux after cups decided to go south. Always a good idea to have a clean slateNov 05 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Partly Microsoft-Owned #Facebook Integrates Further With #Microsoft http://ur.ly/rB7vNov 05 22:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Partly Microsoft-Owned Facebook Integrates Further With Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 78.97 KBNov 05 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] settling for a 2hr30min class then make up midterms after. late night for a beast ehNov 05 22:28
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Shockingly Unshocking: More Wikileaks Compeitors Pop Up http://dlvr.it/85N01Nov 05 22:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shockingly Unshocking: More Wikileaks Compeitors Pop Up | Techdirt .::. Size~: 27.26 KBNov 05 22:31
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrightsNov 05 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Federal Government Less Patents-Friendly Than USPTO, Apple’s Embargo Attempt (With Patents) Fails ITC Judgment http://ur.ly/rnAE #swpatsNov 05 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Federal Government Less Patents-Friendly Than USPTO, Apples Embargo Attempt (With Patents) Fails ITC Judgment | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.94 KBNov 05 22:35
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-releases-F-under-Apache-licence-1131485.html   Still acting as a closed source company.Nov 05 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft releases F# under Apache licence - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.42 KBNov 05 22:35
*oiaohm has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)Nov 05 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] OK, the BBS is up and running on the Dell Optiplex. Off to bed now, good night ;-)Nov 05 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[arnebab/@arnebab] ♻ @sueddeutschede: Proteste stoppen Castor http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/anti-atom-proteste-aktivisten-stoppen-castor-1.1020119Nov 05 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “YouTube finishes transcoding 80% of video catalog to WebM”: http://bit.ly/dyOs8ANov 05 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anti-Atom-Proteste - Aktivisten behindern Castor-Transport - Politik - sueddeutsche.de .::. Size~: 80.09 KBNov 05 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube finishes transcoding 80% of video catalog to WebM .::. Size~: 67.14 KBNov 05 22:40
*Tekk_ (~user@71.77.209.233) has left #techrights ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)")Nov 05 22:40
ml2mstOff to bed now, good night all ;-)Nov 05 22:40
*Eruaran has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Nov 05 22:41
*Viper550 (~lirodon@wikipedia/ViperSnake151) has joined #techrightsNov 05 22:41
Viper550I lol'd at the $2000 Kinect bountyNov 05 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Check this video out -- final battle:darth vader vs luke skywalker http://t.co/Vq7MbdSNov 05 22:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - final battle:darth vader vs luke skywalker   .::. Size~: 122.29 KBNov 05 22:43
*ml2mst has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg)Nov 05 22:44
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Shockingly Unshocking: More Wikileaks Competitors Pop Up http://dlvr.it/85PDDNov 05 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shockingly Unshocking: More Wikileaks Competitors Pop Up | Techdirt .::. Size~: 32 KBNov 05 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Long 12-hr flight to London to start in about 2hrs. Sigh. #fbNov 05 22:53
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Another Leak Delays Final Discovery Launch http://bit.ly/cIeptENov 05 22:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Another Leak Delays Final Discovery Launch .::. Size~: 51.8 KBNov 05 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @harishpillay Afraid of flying ?Nov 05 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica Hands-on: latest #Firefox Mobile beta is svelte and smooth http://goo.gl/xvwxyNov 05 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hands-on: latest Firefox Mobile beta is svelte and smooth .::. Size~: 31.21 KBNov 05 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Can't access www.computerworld.com (2.19.154.53) - anyone else having the same problem?Nov 05 23:05
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrightsNov 05 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] (Alan Shadrake faces prison) http://ur1.ca/2a083Nov 05 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @mohanpram You look thinner in the new photo. Might be the stress of the masters degree project.Nov 05 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Can't access www.computerworld.com (2.19.154.53) - anyone else having the same problem? !fsNov 05 23:15
*oiaohm_ (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrightsNov 05 23:17
*oiaohm has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)Nov 05 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140 lol, thanks. Just found out yesterday that I won't able to finish up this Dec. going to shoot for MarchNov 05 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @dandart nope, loaded for me just fine.Nov 05 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Coder's Dictionary: The Feature Freeze http://goo.gl/rcsSeNov 05 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geek And Poke: Feature Freeze .::. Size~: 39.83 KBNov 05 23:23
*Viper550 (~lirodon@wikipedia/ViperSnake151) has left #techrights ("Leaving")Nov 05 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Lydia Pintscher: Google Code-in – KDE is in! http://goo.gl/7MeCrNov 05 23:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: life at the end of the universe » Google Code-in  KDE is in! .::. Size~: 28.82 KBNov 05 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ahmed Kamal: Cloud Computing 101 !ubuntucloudNov 05 23:27
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] UK Plans To Review Copyright Laws (Yet Again), With Eye Towards Fair Use http://dlvr.it/85S08Nov 05 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Plans To Review Copyright Laws (Yet Again), With Eye Towards Fair Use | Techdirt .::. Size~: 22.74 KBNov 05 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] David Cameron annonce une réforme du droit d'auteur britannique http://is.gd/gLlxx (@lemondefr)Nov 05 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: David Cameron annonce une réforme du droit d'auteur britannique - LeMonde.fr .::. Size~: 110.29 KBNov 05 23:33
MinceRgnNov 05 23:35
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Considering a Fair Penalty For Illegal File-sharing http://bit.ly/bTz6rjNov 05 23:41
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] UN body accuses US of rights abuses | Al Jazeera http://is.gd/gLm1Nov 05 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Considering a Fair Penalty For Illegal File-sharing .::. Size~: 49.85 KBNov 05 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Posterous - 404 - The page you requested could not be found .::. Size~: 5.58 KBNov 05 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh, What a F# ?!?!Nov 05 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @fontana Let the world know: The JSON.org license http://www.crockford.com/JSON/license.html is not #free or #opensourceNov 05 23:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The JSON License .::. Size~: 1.71 KBNov 05 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Public document, no sign in required, editable: http://ur1.ca/2a0i8 - let's see what this turns into! !ccNov 05 23:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to Google Docs .::. Size~: 20.02 KBNov 05 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] nice to see !KDE 's !digikam getting more mainstream attention: http://www.thephotoargus.com/freelance/introduction-to-digikam/Nov 05 23:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Public document, no sign in required, editable: http://ur1.ca/2a0i8 - let's see what this turns into! !fs (fdl?)Nov 05 23:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Introduction to digiKam | Freelance .::. Size~: 42.19 KBNov 05 23:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to Google Docs .::. Size~: 20.03 KBNov 05 23:57

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!