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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] How we feed the cows http://ur1.ca/2c30eNov 13 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Ben ik de enige die twijfelt aan een Europees Patent? Gereageerd op een opiniestuk van @lorinparys - http://ur1.ca/2c33pNov 13 00:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paradox van Parys: Lippendienst - Lorin Parys .::. Size~: 27.27 KBNov 13 00:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Watching #Flodder. Dutch people know what it is... :-PNov 13 00:36
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pieterchi schestowitzNov 13 00:37
pietercI came to talk about the European patentNov 13 00:37
pieterco, hi zoobabNov 13 00:37
pietercLorin Parys, an influential (has very good contact with Vincent Van Quickenborne) journalist in Belgium wrote an article about the European Patent and why it's so goodNov 13 00:38
pietercI tried to comment to his blog in a non-geek way by proving there is more to patents than only the patents that are actually really innovativeNov 13 00:39
pietercsadly the article is in DutchNov 13 00:39
pietercbut houray for google translate: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lorinparys.be%2Findex.php%2Flp%2Fblog_commentaar%2Fparadox_van_parys_lippendienst%2FNov 13 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Ugh, Suborbitalpigeon@facebook.com e-mail account perhapsNov 13 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc1-git9 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 13 00:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I shall be in irc://chat.freenode.net/##rygbi tomorrowNov 13 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Wangan Midnight E01 !animeNov 13 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera I think the issue stems from Roys mic. I forked out on an expensive one. You may well hear a slight improvement tonight, but...Nov 13 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera I think its more hardware prob which even filters on Audacity can't fix 100%. This show is being made through Skype too.Nov 13 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera Thanks so much for your feedback, I'll try on saturday to experiment with a few ideas...Nov 13 01:13
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_GoblinJust got around to fully reading Jono's OpenRespect......been busy at work over the last few weeksNov 13 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hero who guessed Sarah Palin's email password and exposed her for the criminal she is put in jail for a year http://ur1.ca/2c3iuNov 13 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] getting the !Linaro kernel to boot on the !Pandaboard. see if it can be a base for !MeeGo on this platform...Nov 13 01:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sarah Palin email hacker sentenced to one year in prison - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 19.27 KBNov 13 01:28
_Goblinfine looking woman Sarah PalinNov 13 01:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The wrong way http://ur1.ca/2c3jjNov 13 01:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] I've learned so much new LaTeX in the process of this project (new RMS book) -- Just now: \chaptermark{}.Nov 13 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@rms Have you considered dent'ing the longer (but usu short enough) summaries on your blog? Too-short can be self-defeating as a hook #imhoNov 13 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Latetst beta of @spaz is awesome!Nov 13 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] via @merlyn@twitter.com Ex-agent almost shot LBJ hours after JFK killed http://post.ly/1BvYqNov 13 02:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-agent: I almost shot LBJ hours after JFK murder - MariettaTimes.com - The Posterior of Randal Schwartz .::. Size~: 17.26 KBNov 13 02:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @lnxwalt140: via @merlyn@twitter.com Ex-agent almost shot LBJ hours after JFK killed http://post.ly/1BvYqNov 13 02:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-agent: I almost shot LBJ hours after JFK murder - MariettaTimes.com - The Posterior of Randal Schwartz .::. Size~: 17.26 KBNov 13 02:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @seeds RT @lnxwalt140: via @merlyn@twitter.com Ex-agent almost shot LBJ hours after JFK killed http://post.ly/1BvYqNov 13 02:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-agent: I almost shot LBJ hours after JFK murder - MariettaTimes.com - The Posterior of Randal Schwartz .::. Size~: 17.26 KBNov 13 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Online Comments Maybe Not Total Waste Of Time - Science News http://ur1.ca/2c3w2Nov 13 02:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] November 24th education protest planned in UK http://ur1.ca/2c3wpNov 13 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Ears Could Make Better Unique IDs Than Fingerprints | Wired Science | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2c3xrNov 13 02:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ears Could Make Better Unique IDs Than Fingerprints | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 65.41 KBNov 13 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @Mashable Facebook Acquires Fb.com, Set to Launch E-mail Service http://ow.ly/19WVZiNov 13 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Facebook App Sidesteps Google-Facebook Contact Spat | Epicenter | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2c3xxNov 13 02:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to Clocks by Cold Play A Rush Of Blood To The HeadNov 13 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Video: Skateistan Examines Struggles of Young Afghan Skateboarders | Playbook http://ur1.ca/2c3z2Nov 13 02:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Sarah Palin E-mail Hacker Sentenced to 1 Year in Custody | Threat Level | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2c42nNov 13 02:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost good stuffNov 13 03:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora bars #SQLNinja hack tool http://is.gd/gZgkE Next step, kill Security Lab? http://is.gd/gZgkKNov 13 03:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Trapper Keeper should reinvent itself as a web twenty service called Trappr Keepr.Nov 13 03:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" http://ur1.ca/2c4afNov 13 03:29
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Chips_B_MalroyHello everyoneNov 13 03:37
Chips_B_MalroyRemember what happened to Microsoft's Kin when it did not sell?  That's right, they cut the selling price.  Here is WP7 having the same treatment.Nov 13 03:38
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.techeye.net/mobile/amazon-slashes-windows-phone-7-prices-to-0-01Nov 13 03:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon slashes Windows Phone 7 prices to $0.01 - But can it flog them off for next to nothing? | TechEye .::. Size~: 29.96 KBNov 13 03:38
Chips_B_Malroy"In efforts to flog off what probably turned out to be the wrong products to stock, Amazon has slashed the prices of two of its Windows Phone 7 smartphones, the HTC Surround and LG Quantum, to a dirt cheap $0.01."Nov 13 03:39
Chips_B_MalroyAlso the Microsoft strategy of saying WP7 is sold out because of high demand is false.  As many shops only had 5 phones of various manufacturers at launch.  This can be proven by various first hand comments on the web.Nov 13 03:41
Chips_B_MalroySo MS is trying to pertend that WP7 is selling out due to high demand when the truth is in many cases some manufacturers simply did not want to get stuck with high levels of stock they thought could not sell.Nov 13 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @gbraad: #Fedora bars #SQLNinja hack tool http://is.gd/gZgkE Next step, kill Security Lab? http://is.gd/gZgkKNov 13 03:43
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Chips_B_Malroy"The deal is also only available for this weekend, but at that price they may be out of stock long before the weekend is over."Nov 13 03:44
Chips_B_MalroySo why would you dump a product that is supposedly selling well?Nov 13 03:45
Chips_B_MalroyIs this just another case of Microsoft fudging the numbers and trying to create a bandwagon effect for sales of WP7?Nov 13 03:46
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.undergroundnewsroom.com/will-ballmer-bail-after-banking-big-bucks-kinect-update/02002Nov 13 03:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Will Ballmer bail after banking big bucks? Kinect Update .::. Size~: 15.56 KBNov 13 03:47
Chips_B_Malroyhttp://www.infoworld.com/t/windows/ballmer-bailing-after-banking-big-bucks-449Nov 13 03:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will Ballmer bail after banking big bucks? | Windows - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 96.5 KBNov 13 03:48
Chips_B_Malroy"All of this selling has triggered wide-eyed speculation that SteveB may be getting ready to jump ship."Nov 13 03:49
Chips_B_Malroy"I thought this all sounded vaguely familiar, so I took a trip back down memory lane and discovered that Bill Gates went through much the same process when he was preparing to leave Microsoft. Bill's exit strategy extended over a period of years, but he officially handed over the titular role of CEO to SteveB in January 2000, stepping out of the limelight to become the newly christened Chief Software Architect. He gradually cut back his directNov 13 03:50
Chips_B_Malroyinvolvement, transferred the Chief Software Architect mantle to Ray Ozzie in 2006, and definitively left in 2008."Nov 13 03:50
Chips_B_Malroy"In 1999, the year before SteveB became CEO, Bill sold $2.5 billion in Microsoft stock. There were assurances all around that Bill was still firmly in control and would run Microsoft forever. Microsoft stock had soared and, the story went, Bill was pulling out funds to diversify his portfolio."Nov 13 03:50
Chips_B_Malroy"While that's certainly true, it's also obvious that Gates launched his departure strategy with a significant sell-off of Microsoft stock."Nov 13 03:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @nhi: ♻ @gbraad: #Fedora bars #SQLNinja hack tool http://is.gd/gZgkE Next step, kill Security Lab? http://is.gd/gZgkKNov 13 04:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Did #Ubuntu disrespect #Fedora Linux with #openrespect? http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/11/did-ubuntu-disprespect-fedora.htmlNov 13 04:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Did Ubuntu disrespect Fedora Linux with openrespect? - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 132.52 KBNov 13 04:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Indian "Open standards policy" got finalized [pdf] http://ur1.ca/2by26 !india !fossNov 13 04:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Seems @ppapadeas and @rejon are at @fossasia !Nov 13 04:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Possible myths http://ur1.ca/2c4oeNov 13 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Awesome Above-Ground Outdoor Pool (10 pics) - My Modern Metropolis http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/awesome-aboveground-outdoorNov 13 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] CONSOLLECTION http://consollection.de/Nov 13 04:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CONSOLLECTION .::. Size~: 44.08 KBNov 13 04:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] helped someone gain access to their dead child's computer. No one should ever have to do that.Nov 13 04:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Linaro - "Software foundations for an #open digital world"? Then why you offer your stuff in deb's for #Ubuntu!?!Nov 13 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Mega Collection Of Cheatsheets for Designers And Developers | SpyreStudios http://ur1.ca/2c4tyNov 13 04:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh man, now I'm crying and there isn't any scotch involved. I better make a phone call.Nov 13 04:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm @tonyyarusso I know some churches accept !lgbt ppl—just can't give'em extra credit for doing what basic human decency demands t ...Nov 13 05:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I Didn't make it to 10k since my brain turned to sludge a few hours back, but it was easily my 2010 !NaNoWriMo personal best at 7133 wordsNov 13 05:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #bluebloodsNov 13 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Woo hoo! Great going>> rt @zotz @laurelrusswurm I passed halfway last night. http://baldynovel.blogspot.com/ !NaNoWriMoNov 13 05:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Should "Proxytunnel" be reconsidered for inclusion? "punching holes in the corporate firewall." - from the project homepageNov 13 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] How do people use Firefox? Announcing the Open Data Visualization Competition http://mzl.la/9kJoD7Nov 13 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to one of my all time favorite songs: @kaeshammer's "Give You My Heart" (certainly one of the most romantic)Nov 13 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Linux Story | CDE — Making Linux Portability Easy http://ur1.ca/2c51eNov 13 05:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Labs » Concept Series  » Blog Archive   » How do people use Firefox? Announcing the Open Data Visualization Competition .::. Size~: 22.82 KBNov 13 05:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RockMelt: A Great Social Browser for the Desktop, But Isn’t This the Mobile Era? | Xconomy http://ur1.ca/2c51zNov 13 05:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: fund Pigford II settlement http://ur1.ca/2c53bNov 13 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] "My rule is, if I can't share it with you, I won't take it." --RMSNov 13 05:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz thanks for the #FF... my brain has been submerged in fiction todayNov 13 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Johannes Mehserle goes to prison http://ur1.ca/2c5faNov 13 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Yes, thanks for the #FFNov 13 06:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Ian Hargreaves to lead independent review into IP and growth - http://bit.ly/9BxlyQ ex-journo: does he understand abundance?Nov 13 06:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Property Office - Ian Hargreaves to lead independent review into IP and growth .::. Size~: 17.29 KBNov 13 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @bkuhn #OpenCore is poorly defined, but IMO must include © assignment & proprietary relicensing. #Linux has neither.Nov 13 06:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johndrinkwater ah crap, this way virii come (written by the ‘protectors’…) http://ur.ly/uuRx #placeboeffectNov 13 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ... RT @jwildeboer First #openstandards now copyright reform - gotta LOVE #Neelie if you care about freedom! http://is.gd/gU5IpNov 13 06:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00016.htmlNov 13 06:56
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schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/are-you-on-the-internet-or-something-else.arsNov 13 07:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram “NGC 4452: An Extremely Thin Galaxy”: http://bit.ly/9N4vJ9Nov 13 07:04
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schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] @mairin: Why should male colleagues verbally "punch" a girl instead of making her feel comfortable and protected ? :-(Nov 13 07:11
schestowitzHard time in Fedora?Nov 13 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @edythemighty Girl, YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDNov 13 07:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @libreofficeuservol Someone mentioned #ODF compliance - TDF hardly started but #libreoffice was at the last plugfest http://bit.ly/at3CluNov 13 07:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenDocument User Community Volunteers  .::. Size~: 0.42 KBNov 13 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @RedHatNews: RT @stratman4300: #RHEL6 contains 85% more packages than RHEL5! Excellent!Nov 13 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Tony Hayward makes some admissions http://ur1.ca/2c5sgNov 13 07:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Yesterday's Document Foundation Steering Committee Conference Call recording is online: http://ur1.ca/2c5vb !libo !tdfNov 13 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin a pretty red and purple sunset outside of #redhat 's boston-area office the day of #rhel6 's launch http://flic.kr/p/8Sp67BNov 13 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner Gnote suits me a lot better than Tomboy. It may be my favourite new-to-me program since switching to #Fedora > also no MonoNov 13 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @seeds The harmful effects of Workaholism | GHABUNTU http://ur.ly/ukYINov 13 07:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The harmful effects of Workaholism | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 60.92 KBNov 13 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mairin @silner: not sure if it would be helpful for you, but i wrote up a little tutorial of my gnote workflow: http://ur1.ca/2bgrbNov 13 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora Project .::. Size~: 19.12 KBNov 13 07:58
schestowitzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxoutlaws/+bug/537024/comments/5Nov 13 08:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comment #5 : Bug #537024 : Bugs : Linux Outlaws .::. Size~: 9.62 KBNov 13 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @rysiek Guy sticking two fingers up. I'd love to be able to do a goatse in ascii/unicode that would fit in a 140 char dent :PNov 13 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @rysiek About 8 years ago, I set all the wallpapers on the secretaries' desktops to Gaotse he he! :DNov 13 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, installing Ati Catalyst drivers on !fedora 14 just left me with a black screen at boot. http://ur1.ca/2c642Nov 13 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Going for a reinstall, plenty of freetime today. Will use !fedora repos instead this time round.Nov 13 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] chromeos, chromeos, where for art thou chromeos? #shakespeare-with-a-netbook !qNov 13 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] tried many things, but my conclusion so far: !pandaboard is #DOANov 13 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, bookmarked http://rpmfusion.org/, gonna download !fedora xfce version (still don't like gnome), whatsmore I can add !openbox #fedorabangNov 13 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Rainforests and global warming http://ur1.ca/2c66mNov 13 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, netbook battery dead, kids got breakfast, i'm off to reinstall !fedora :)Nov 13 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 5: Windows Loses to Linux in Phones, !GNU !Linux Desktop Market Share Estimations http://ur.ly/uoCH http://ur.ly/uDY5Nov 13 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @meegoblog: Nokia News: MeeGo on N900; C5-03 Announced http://nowskip.to/90YfGxNov 13 09:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mozilla whitehouse.gov uses Firefox 3.6 http://bit.ly/9Z0fhoNov 13 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak ...(I'm a huge fan of the right to read http://ur1.ca/88ey)Nov 13 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox 'news' resorts to decapitation jokes http://ur.ly/urK2 #murdoch #propaganda #fakenewsNov 13 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Confirmed: Fox Blocking Google TV - http://bit.ly/cb1cNu old TV vs. new TV #google #tvNov 13 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The impossibility of endless growth http://ur1.ca/2c6kwNov 13 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Global Copyright Reform: A View From The South In Response To Lessig - http://bit.ly/b77Mvj sensible commentary #copyrightNov 13 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In the Grip of the New Monopolists - http://on.wsj.com/arruTg "major sectors today are controlled by one dominant company" (via @calixte)Nov 13 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @harishpillay Need to rename World War 1 to European War. No one else outside Europe was involved! http://ur.ly/uedp #fbNov 13 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @carlopiana @harishpillay ?? The USA intervened massively (Hemingway was in), many were killed. Also Australians and Indians did.Nov 13 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU legal threat stirs Home Office on interception opt-ins - http://bit.ly/cObv1r fall-out from Phorm #dpi #rip #interceptionNov 13 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] RT @linuxdrivers A listing of WLAN devices with information about the chipset and whether or not they are supported [.] http://bit.ly/bsnQgNNov 13 09:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !fedora xfce no-go, something about cow-snapshot fs unrecognized? Iso was md5sum checked and burned at 4X on Xfburn! Not giving up. #reburnNov 13 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jamesm Foss.in Pac-Man poster - http://is.gd/gVPFgNov 13 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Google: #Android doesn't infringe #Oracle's copyrights http://goo.gl/I8glyNov 13 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will the EU permit a slow-lane Internet? - http://bit.ly/aQCeBv more depressing analysis of EU #netneutrality meetingNov 13 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Okay, off to install #Fedora 14 for a friend... this freely-downloaded CD makes me popular ;-)Nov 13 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Notes from the International Commons Conference - http://bit.ly/bGzhcH useful summary: I broadly agree with its points #commonsNov 13 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Going to reinstall !fedora Gnome. *sigh* Fedora-14-i686-Live-XFCE.iso: FAILED sha256sum: WARNING: 1 of 1 computed checksum did NOT matchNov 13 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Can a !fedora 14 Xfce user verify the iso? I got two SHA mismatches on two downloads. https://fedoraproject.org/verifyNov 13 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The next big spill http://ur1.ca/2c6y0Nov 13 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Testing the latest GNOME ShellNov 13 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 5 – 12/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/35fu3nu !techbytesNov 13 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] others in !china / !beijing also have the issue that google.com does not load when directly connected?Nov 13 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Memory lane again, track from my late teens and theme of the morning! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQR9bw-4R08Nov 13 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Infact I may have been a little older than my "late teens"....damn....thankfully I've retained my youthful goodlooks ;)Nov 13 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Ah..thats better, a playlist track that I have fond memories of..where were you when this played? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28KobNbbI2sNov 13 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And finally retro morning ends with a song I remember buying at the time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeG-hNXXy6INov 13 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Waking up with a Bruce bootleg from '76. :DNov 13 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon u-boot + Linux kernel port to Mediatek MT6235 baseband processor under way http://ping.fm/wSCMCNov 13 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How computer chess changed programming - http://spectrum.ieee.org/slideshow/computing/software/how-computer-chess-changed-programming/ #fbNov 13 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Who's paying Steward Brand now? http://ur1.ca/2c7bqNov 13 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] Ehi !blaggers !icecat 3.6.12 packaged for BLAG (140K) thanks to Cyrille! http://cbiot.fr/blag.f14/how-to.htmlNov 13 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo !minecraft server down for the time being. I'm updating the minecraft stuff. Will tell you when it's back on...Nov 13 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo !minecraft server back up. Should allow anybody to connect nowNov 13 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Prove It intro FTW! Fuck.... People who say Bruce can't play guitar haven't heard this. His tone on this tour was DIVINE..... OoNov 13 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Will it ever stop raining?Nov 13 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Rebooting the sixgun servers for kernel updates. Please stand by...Nov 13 11:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Rebooting the sixgun servers for kernel updates. Please stand by...Nov 13 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good show !techbytes keep them coming. points for thought too short for 140.Nov 13 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Sixgun servers are back. Enjoy your stay with us.Nov 13 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Sixgun servers are back. Enjoy your stay with us.Nov 13 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @speeddefrost No, hash check before burning was bad. Anyway, all installed now with the gnome iso.Nov 13 12:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok. !fedora installed. Got fastest repo plugin, added rpmfusuion repo, now updating. Next up.. ati graphics card driver. Free , not amd/atiNov 13 12:11
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MurlocHello people!Nov 13 12:12
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oiaohmHi MurlocNov 13 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Brilliant ripping of the Law Minister - http://theonlinecitizen.com/2010/11/press-muse-k-shanmugam-literary-gymnast/ #fbNov 13 12:14
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MurlocJust a quick question, can the Pidgin be monitored, from someone?Nov 13 12:15
MurlocFor example if using MSN network.Nov 13 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] I almost want to make @dixieva wait longer for her breakfast just to see how long she'll keep drooling. But I'm too nice for that.Nov 13 12:16
oiaohmIs the protocal secure.Nov 13 12:20
oiaohmParticular ammounts of MSN can be monitored.Nov 13 12:20
oiaohmPidgin does have encrypted messaging that can be used client to client.Nov 13 12:21
oiaohmSo making man in middle mointoring limited effectiveness.Nov 13 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc1-git10 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 13 12:21
MurlocI see...Nov 13 12:21
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MurlocThe best thing for Windows user is to bring open source to them, as well the freeware.Nov 13 12:22
oiaohmReally no.Nov 13 12:24
oiaohmBest thing get Windows user on a android phone.Nov 13 12:24
oiaohmWait a few years then get them on a meego or android laptop.Nov 13 12:24
oiaohmI see no longer term future for Windows.Nov 13 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Boosting privacy online - anonymous credentials in the browser http://ow.ly/19XftDNov 13 12:28
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oiaohmhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/simplemsn-sniff/  <<  Current secuirty status of MSN basically nothing.   MurlocNov 13 12:29
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oiaohmNo matter the client use.  The protocal is shot.  At least pidgin has the option of using encrypted.   MurlocNov 13 12:30
MurlocThanks.Nov 13 12:32
MurlocAnyway I'm pretty much satisfied about open source on Windows, since I'm also taking part in it to bring it there :)Nov 13 12:32
oiaohmReally secuirty is protocal based.Nov 13 12:32
oiaohmWith a lot of things.Nov 13 12:33
oiaohmReally Windows sees only a really small ammount of the open source world.Nov 13 12:33
MurlocSad but true.Nov 13 12:33
oiaohmYou know about the kde port attempt to windows ?Nov 13 12:34
oiaohmKDE to OS X was simple.Nov 13 12:34
MurlocYeah.Nov 13 12:34
oiaohmKDE to windows is a level 10 migrain.Nov 13 12:34
oiaohmSome of the big issues on windows is lack of a uptodate posix support.Nov 13 12:35
oiaohmApis that do strange things for no good reason.Nov 13 12:35
oiaohmAnd for some reason MS had the idea of reversing posix convention on calls at every chance.Nov 13 12:35
MurlocOh well. Even their WLM 2011 is fail.Nov 13 12:36
MinceRit would also be good to get the winblows user a GNU/Linux installation, possibly in dual-boot.Nov 13 12:36
MinceRoiaohm: have they tried cygwin or mingw?Nov 13 12:37
oiaohmI use to work on the mingw complier by the way.  MinceRNov 13 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Crass double standard http://ur1.ca/2c7ncNov 13 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Not having much luck with a "howto install ati drivers on !fedora 14" : http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503Nov 13 12:38
oiaohmI also know the limitations of cygwin attempted posix emulation.Nov 13 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] really good news out of Burma! wondering if anyone made a PuSH c2d server, news needs to be realtimeNov 13 12:39
oiaohmkde currently builds on windows with mingw or msvc.  But there are issues in how to interface with the OS.Nov 13 12:40
MurlocI wonder if there is Gnome for Windows now.Nov 13 12:40
MurlocThere was some similiar project before.Nov 13 12:40
oiaohmThere has never been an attempt to port Gnome to windows.Nov 13 12:42
oiaohmKDE does a lot of firsts.Nov 13 12:42
oiaohmSomething Gnome likes to skip over.Nov 13 12:42
MinceRunderstandablyNov 13 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] No !fedora 14 guide here either http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Fedora :( I don't want another black screen like the last attempt.Nov 13 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Rezervația de zimbri http://is.gd/gZZlV #poezie #paunescuNov 13 12:43
Murlochttp://cygnome.sourceforge.net/Nov 13 12:43
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oiaohmNote there is a kde cygwin attempt as well.  MurlocNov 13 12:44
oiaohmAlso pre Gnome attempting that.Nov 13 12:44
gnufreexLooks like Red Hat changed some prices http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/12/redhat_rhel6_package_pricing/Nov 13 12:44
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oiaohmNotice Redhat lists desktop.Nov 13 12:47
gnufreexYeah, it seems there is cheaper option now.Nov 13 12:47
gnufreex$49Nov 13 12:47
gnufreexWe will probably be moving to that at work.Nov 13 12:48
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gnufreexBut this are american prices, don't know what it will be here.Nov 13 12:49
MinceRstrange. didn't RH say they gave up on the desktop? :>Nov 13 12:50
gnufreexNo, they never gave up on corporate desktop. Only consumer desktop.Nov 13 12:51
gnufreexAnd you can use RHEL Desktop at home if you want...Nov 13 12:51
oiaohmRH never did quit.Nov 13 12:52
oiaohmThey just have not been targeting it.Nov 13 12:52
gnufreexMinceR: They gave up trying to get OEMs to install RHEL desktop on laptops and and prebuilt desktops.Nov 13 12:53
gnufreexCanonical will probably have to do that one day, and buy System76 or ZeReason.Nov 13 12:54
gnufreexNo point convincing Microsoft subsidiaries to ship Ubuntu on their hardwareNov 13 12:56
MinceRyou're giving canonical too much credit, imo :>Nov 13 12:57
gnufreexYeah, I regularly make that mistake :>Nov 13 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @richslxh Not having much luck with a "howto install ati drivers on !fedora 14" : http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503Nov 13 12:58
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oiaohmgnufreex: really the did not.Nov 13 12:58
oiaohmRH has always targeted workstation class hardware.Nov 13 12:58
gnufreexI can't find any computer with RHEL desktop or RHEL WS preinstalled. oiaohmNov 13 13:00
gnufreexOnes that say they come with RHEL Desktop in fact come blank.Nov 13 13:00
gnufreexANd with subscriprionNov 13 13:00
gnufreexAnd you download and install yourself.Nov 13 13:01
gnufreexI don't know if it is GPL scare or what.Nov 13 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @richslxh: don't install those, it's proprietary crapware, the native drivers sadly use prop. firmware but at least are closer to Zen state.Nov 13 13:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Aung San Suu Kyi released from house arrest http://www.ndtv.com/album/detail/freedom-for-aung-san-suu-kyi-8577Nov 13 13:04
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oiaohmHP and Dells I have ordered with RHEL installed.   gnufreexNov 13 13:08
oiaohmAnd got it.Nov 13 13:08
gnufreexServer or Desktop?Nov 13 13:08
oiaohmWSNov 13 13:08
gnufreexCool. But here is impossible.Nov 13 13:09
gnufreexOnly server comes preinstalled.Nov 13 13:09
gnufreexBut I prefer servers blank, because configuration.Nov 13 13:09
oiaohmMind you I am ordering at enterprise level on both.Nov 13 13:11
oiaohmNot home or small business.Nov 13 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-11-13: Chatting with Eucalyptus Co-founder about OpenStack Great to see Eucalyptus exploring way... http://bit.ly/95UPEqNov 13 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Rezervația de zimbri: p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }Rezervațiade zimbrideAdrianPăunescuO mie de ani, vî... http://bit.ly/9tvnUINov 13 13:11
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oiaohmI can even choose to have custom images of any Linux placed on the machine if I am ordering enough.  gnufreexNov 13 13:12
gnufreexI was ordering Desktop for offices, the one that cost $99 in US (for RHEL 5). And for servers, there was some advanced Platform and some ES. Mixed. oiaohm.Nov 13 13:13
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gnufreexAlso, some WS too. It was same. Self install.Nov 13 13:14
oiaohmWhere they dells?Nov 13 13:15
gnufreexI think there was.Nov 13 13:15
oiaohmDid you forget to provide kickstart files?Nov 13 13:15
oiaohmYes no kickstart files no install.Nov 13 13:15
oiaohmYes ordering WS dell is expecting exact instructions what you want on them.Nov 13 13:16
gnufreexHmm... I think it was not me who made the order. I just picked options.Nov 13 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Mint 10 | Steve's Systems Biology blog http://www.stevecheckley.co.uk/blog/2010/11/13/mint/Nov 13 13:16
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gnufreexFor Dells that is.Nov 13 13:17
oiaohmA few companies with dell I have set up default kickstart files for the systems they want.Nov 13 13:17
oiaohmSo that when you order WS they don't come blank.Nov 13 13:17
oiaohmHP is nicer this way.Nov 13 13:17
oiaohmHP installs with Min options if you tell them nothing.Nov 13 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @osamak yes #AdBlockPlus is great! It hard to believe just how prevasive Google Analytics has become Makes it a challenge to be !googlefreeNov 13 13:18
oiaohmMinor process error on your part gnufreexNov 13 13:18
oiaohmThere is a extra charge included in workstation machines price for exact customisation.Nov 13 13:19
oiaohmAlso the reason why workstation machines with windows also include no crapware by default.Nov 13 13:19
gnufreexPossible that was my fault. There only about 5-6 WS machines. All else desktop.Nov 13 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @ruiseabra Ok, can you point me to a guide or tell me what i install from the repos?Nov 13 13:21
oiaohmHeck i have even had windows workstation machines ordered from dell turn up blank.Nov 13 13:21
oiaohmEven worse missing install disks.Nov 13 13:21
gnufreexlolNov 13 13:22
oiaohmSometimes there shipping department is having a bad day.Nov 13 13:22
gnufreexSo "buy new Windows, billG will be happy"Nov 13 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] np237: cowbuilder and eatmydata http://np237.livejournal.com/29608.htmlNov 13 13:23
oiaohmIt was sorted out fairly quicky.Nov 13 13:23
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gnufreexWithout making BillG happy ? :>Nov 13 13:23
oiaohmReally at the time it was not a major issue to me.Nov 13 13:24
oiaohmMS partner registration.Nov 13 13:24
oiaohmSo I have all the master install disks.Nov 13 13:24
oiaohmIe along as I have sticker I a was in businessNov 13 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @climagic: split -b 1M largefile # Split a file called largefile into 1 megabyte pieces called xaa, xab, xac, etc...Nov 13 13:24
oiaohmOf course I followed up on getting the disks over the next few days.Nov 13 13:25
oiaohmYes I get windows disks with a prac key.  They are the same as retail except for the fact the key with them will never register.Nov 13 13:25
oiaohmIts for prac using MS automatic installation.Nov 13 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Facebook Postings Lead To Arrest for Heresy In the West Bank http://ur1.ca/2c7xqNov 13 13:28
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gnufreexoiaohm: I was thinking yesterday about Motorola vs Microsoft war... Those MSFT bastards are sneaky. That FRAND suit has more effect that anyone assumes.Nov 13 13:32
oiaohmMotorola is playing a game of double down.Nov 13 13:33
gnufreexMicrosoft paid royalties to Motorola. Then Microsoft sues for patents and breaks licensing contract. Then Motorola is expected to contersue. But Microsoft sues again for FRAND. And then Motorola countersues.Nov 13 13:33
oiaohmEvery time MS hits Motorola.  Motorola double the patents on the table.Nov 13 13:33
gnufreexYou know what that means?Nov 13 13:33
gnufreexIt means that FRAND lawsuit can stall Motorola's lawsuit.Nov 13 13:34
gnufreexMicrosoft is trying to bancrupt MotorolaNov 13 13:34
oiaohmHow much has it cost Motorola so far.Nov 13 13:34
oiaohmBasically nothing.Nov 13 13:34
Diablo-D3lolNov 13 13:35
gnufreexThat is true, but Motorola is loosing money.Nov 13 13:35
Diablo-D3microsoft would be a hero if they killed motorolaNov 13 13:35
Diablo-D3motorola == the left over parts after freescale and that other company splitNov 13 13:35
gnufreexThey are not in black yet.Nov 13 13:35
Diablo-D3motorola == the unprofitable part of what we called motorola 15 years agoNov 13 13:35
gnufreexDiablo-D3 spot onNov 13 13:35
Diablo-D3so if MS cleans up that little mess, good for themNov 13 13:35
Diablo-D3oh, and what we call motorola now is basically a patent hoarderNov 13 13:36
oiaohmReally recent years motorola has been doing quite well out of android.Nov 13 13:37
oiaohmYes motorola has quite a patent stock pile.Nov 13 13:37
oiaohmThing is most of motorola's are valid.Nov 13 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Still lying http://ur1.ca/2c7yzNov 13 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Burmese military authorities have released the political leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, from house arrest, having fixed their democracy firstNov 13 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @rms: Still lying http://ur1.ca/2c7yzNov 13 13:38
gnufreexLast year they had operating loss of 300 milion, but they won some stuff on court and had net lost of only 100milon or soo.Nov 13 13:38
gnufreexBut they are not profitable.Nov 13 13:38
oiaohmYep.Nov 13 13:39
oiaohmAnd MS losing a patent case to them would make them profitable.Nov 13 13:39
gnufreexThe more this drag out, the better for Microsoft.Nov 13 13:39
oiaohmReally no.Nov 13 13:39
oiaohmMS was wanting a quick and simple kill.Nov 13 13:39
oiaohmMotorola is not going todo that.Nov 13 13:39
gnufreexThen why they are trying to stall?Nov 13 13:40
oiaohmMotorola counters are solid.Nov 13 13:40
oiaohmMS patents are question mark.Nov 13 13:40
oiaohmGoing into court and they lose all the people who did patent deals with them over those patents might be after a refund from MS.Nov 13 13:40
gnufreexM$ FRAND lawsuit is attempt to drag out Motorolas counter suit.Nov 13 13:41
gnufreexMicrosoft previously licensed patents from Motorola and now cries foulNov 13 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Checking spelling of Bresaola , Veneziano, Pellegrino and other words suggesting a light lunch in Italy.Nov 13 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Fed-up of googling !fedora 14 ati/radeon driver install info. Time for dinner.Nov 13 13:41
gnufreexSays they were to expensive.Nov 13 13:41
oiaohmAnd the motorola patents are solid.Nov 13 13:41
oiaohmMS has not be able to make a case they are invaid.Nov 13 13:42
oiaohmYes MS is playing with fire here.Nov 13 13:42
gnufreexYes, they are solid, but they might be unusable until FRAND case resolves.Nov 13 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Checking spelling of Bresaola , Veneziano, Pellegrino and other words suggesting a light lunch in Italy.Nov 13 13:43
oiaohmMotorola recently put up another set of patents outside the FRANDNov 13 13:43
oiaohmSo Motorola can hit without waiting for the FRAND case.Nov 13 13:43
gnufreexMotorola suit might be dependent on Microsoft FRAND suit.Nov 13 13:43
gnufreexThat is what M$ tries to do.Nov 13 13:44
oiaohmMotorola currently has 2 suits against Microsoft.Nov 13 13:44
gnufreexHope they don't succed.Nov 13 13:44
oiaohmOne effected by the FRAND  one not.Nov 13 13:44
gnufreexOr else this will be 10 year battleNov 13 13:44
oiaohmThe one not has double the patents.Nov 13 13:44
oiaohmAnd Motorola is going to block all sales of Windows Mobile 7Nov 13 13:44
oiaohmAnd all future Mobile OS's until MS resolves.Nov 13 13:45
gnufreexNotice that Motorola didn't go to ITC to block Microsoft products fast.Nov 13 13:45
oiaohmYes they gave MS a chance to settle with the FRAND effected patents.Nov 13 13:46
MurlocYou people fail to realise that Facebook is Microsoft 2 backup.Nov 13 13:46
oiaohmThey are using the NON Frand patents to go the ITC.Nov 13 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The problem with paywalls is they provide no way for people outside their market who are part of the conversation to join in temporarily.Nov 13 13:46
oiaohmBasically Motorola knew about the Frand issue from the start gnufreexNov 13 13:46
oiaohmAnd you can only have one blocking case in the ITC.Nov 13 13:46
oiaohmMore MS strugles the more motorola will attack.Nov 13 13:47
oiaohmMurloc: Facebook is another Hotmail stunt.Nov 13 13:47
oiaohmMurloc:  we can depend on MS interfernce to ruin it.Nov 13 13:47
MurlocFacebook is a pest that need to be exterminated.Nov 13 13:48
gnufreexoiaohm: I hope you are right. I will like to see Microsoft wiped by Motorola.Nov 13 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #supernaturalNov 13 13:48
gnufreexAnd later, I want to see Motorold dead too.Nov 13 13:48
oiaohmMotorola is another SUN class company.Nov 13 13:48
gnufreexThey are tivoizing.Nov 13 13:48
oiaohmRemember how many years of Losses Sun had.Nov 13 13:48
MurlocIf that's the case then it would be the first good thing in they did in last 20 years, oiaohm.Nov 13 13:49
gnufreex6-7 years, but less losses.Nov 13 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] talkr.im #XMPP -> MSN gateway is great. Now I can be logged into msn from several devicesNov 13 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] dealt with a lot of crap today: !linaro stuff is offered as #ubuntu stuff, !pandaboard seems to be dead on arrival, #mips machine is broken!Nov 13 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] #Ghostery is also a good prirvacy add-on for firefox !googlefreeNov 13 13:51
oiaohmandroid in the last 12 months turned motorolas profit lines around gnufreexNov 13 13:51
oiaohmLess income but more profit how.Nov 13 13:51
oiaohmIe not paying for Windows Mobile OS.Nov 13 13:52
oiaohmMS basically not happy.   Motorola extreamlly happy to stay just putting out android phones with no MS phones.Nov 13 13:52
oiaohmits better for there bottom line and might save the company.Nov 13 13:52
oiaohmThis is the MS problem.   Motorola has every reason to fight.   Particularly due to the low costs for Motorola.Nov 13 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just installed #Fedora 14 on another box. plasma-desktop went titsup after reboot, now having to use plasma-netbook by default :-/Nov 13 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Chavez responsible for the darkest hour of Venezuela. Trains run late. http://ur1.ca/2c820Nov 13 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Nooku agreement actually a participant agreement, looks promising: http://blog.nooku.org/2010/11/nooku-contributor-agreement/Nov 13 13:54
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gnufreexI hope they both die till this case ends.Nov 13 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @techglance: Google's gingerbread Androids are fully baked, can the OS be far behind? http://bit.ly/dcZSkRNov 13 13:56
oiaohmReally nokia is aquiring motorola bit by bit.Nov 13 13:56
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oiaohmSo its already ceasing to exist 1 step at a time.Nov 13 13:56
gnufreexAnd yeah, it looks like Motorola is turning profit now. http://www.intomobile.com/2010/10/28/motorola-posts-q3-2010-results-first-profit-in-three-years/Nov 13 13:57
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oiaohmEven of MS wins against Motorola all that might be left is a shell due to everything already being sold to nokia.Nov 13 13:57
gnufreexSold to nokia?Nov 13 13:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now to impeach the Burmese military junta and put them on trial for crimes against humanity with #aungsansuukyi release! #fbNov 13 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @seeds RT @techglance: Google's gingerbread Androids are fully baked, can the OS be far behind? http://bit.ly/dcZSkRNov 13 13:58
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oiaohmThat profit you just saw was nokia aquiring motorola network development department.Nov 13 13:58
gnufreexOh.. nice.Nov 13 13:58
oiaohmBasically motorola no longer owns 3g or other phone chip production.  gnufreexNov 13 13:58
oiaohmYes MS is sueing a shell.Nov 13 13:58
oiaohmMS win or lose against motorola they will lose.Nov 13 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Another episode of !techbytes tonight, focus is #Fedora 14 which both Tim and I are installing and playing with today (ish)Nov 13 13:59
gnufreexMotorola plans to sell their phone division for a year now.Nov 13 14:00
gnufreexThey hoped to sell it to Sun first.Nov 13 14:00
gnufreexThen GoogleNov 13 14:01
gnufreexThen delayed.Nov 13 14:01
oiaohmReally I would bet Nokia has first bid.Nov 13 14:01
gnufreexAntitrust.Nov 13 14:01
oiaohmEver other sale from motorola has gone nokia way.Nov 13 14:01
gnufreexAnd nokia don't need android.Nov 13 14:01
gnufreex... android phones I meanNov 13 14:02
oiaohmWhy not.Nov 13 14:02
oiaohmAgain why not.Nov 13 14:02
oiaohmIf there plan is to aquire motorola all a long it does explain why nokia has not been playing android catch up.Nov 13 14:02
gnufreexThey want Qt in everything. I don't know if Qt can be ported to work with Dalvik efficiently. And Android is too proprietaryNov 13 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] UKOnline is being killed by SkyNov 13 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @webmink step in the right direction, though warranty section legalese looks annoyingNov 13 14:03
oiaohmQt already can run in Android native code.Nov 13 14:03
oiaohmIe port is done gnufreexNov 13 14:03
oiaohmYes it was one of the odd ones that the person who did it was nokia staff.Nov 13 14:03
gnufreexYeah, but Android is a mess. MeeGo is better.Nov 13 14:04
oiaohmSo I have been looking for where Nokia was going to get android phones from.Nov 13 14:04
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oiaohmI think android will fill the slot windows mobile had in every phone maker.Nov 13 14:04
gnufreexI hope MeeGo will compete for that slot.Nov 13 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] #talkr.im 's XMPP -> IM gateways may help me convince some of my BlueScreener friends to migrate to #XMPPNov 13 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @bkuhn I strongly agree. Unfortunately s/b goes around telling different.Nov 13 14:06
oiaohmNokia has had pure linux phones for power users for a long time.Nov 13 14:06
oiaohmMeego is targeted at the power user market.Nov 13 14:06
gnufreexI like android less and less as time goes by. It is proprietary crapNov 13 14:06
oiaohmBasically meego is targeted at people like you gnufreexNov 13 14:07
oiaohmandorid is targeted at the people who just want there phone to look fancy and run.Nov 13 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @fontana It shows signs of not having been reviewed by a FOSS-aware lawyer, but I may be wrong.Nov 13 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] This cafe has a deep but flawed belief in the power of doorways to exclude smoke even when bolted open.Nov 13 14:08
oiaohmAnd between both of them is almost 100 percent coverage.Nov 13 14:08
oiaohmOnly area not covered is people who want a phone just to be a phone.Nov 13 14:08
oiaohmAnd nokia already has a OS's covering that.Nov 13 14:08
gnufreexSymbianNov 13 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] 80% of Daily YouTube Videos Now In WebM http://bit.ly/dfZB7oNov 13 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @harishpillay yup time to string them up.Nov 13 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Received some very good feedback site today, overall was pleased with Linux installs, might buy better microphone this week for !tbNov 13 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @brunomiguel Ricky Gervais Explains Creation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9bk4_SRcwENov 13 14:09
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gnufreexAgain, I think 3 OSs are too much for one company. Nokia should give finger to Android and just make MeeGo scale down.Nov 13 14:10
oiaohmYou are forgeting S40 gnufreexNov 13 14:10
oiaohmS40 is what is in nokia really primitave models.Nov 13 14:11
oiaohmAnd its not symbianNov 13 14:11
oiaohmCurrent Nokia has 3 + OS's.Nov 13 14:11
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gnufreexOk.. I just googled to see. I think that is one more reason why Nokia doesn't need android.Nov 13 14:13
oiaohmS40  symbian covering S60 threw to S90 then MaemoNov 13 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @SrishAkaTux https://gist.github.com/674627 http://bit.ly/aPSqrWNov 13 14:13
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oiaohmNow restructed after taking in android and meego.Nov 13 14:13
oiaohmSymbian, android, meegoNov 13 14:13
oiaohmSo yes nokia can remain with just 3 like they have now.Nov 13 14:14
oiaohmAnd a broader market target.Nov 13 14:14
oiaohmalso Symbian and Meego will both basically have the same graphical API's.Nov 13 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Gr8, glad to hear that. ;-)Nov 13 14:14
oiaohmAnd most of android work is outsourced.Nov 13 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @haris 20 Years Ago Today: The Web Was Proposed - http://ur1.ca/2c7kcNov 13 14:16
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gnufreexYeah, Symbian can be fixed to look and work as anything else. That is advantage of Microkernel.Nov 13 14:17
gnufreexThat is reason for all that S40 to S90 platformsNov 13 14:17
gnufreexS40 also runs EKANov 13 14:17
oiaohmNote S40 is not symbian.Nov 13 14:17
gnufreexjust have most servers removedNov 13 14:18
gnufreexIt is not symbian but runs EKANov 13 14:18
oiaohmS40 is not even truly multi threaded.Nov 13 14:18
gnufreexI think EKA 1Nov 13 14:18
gnufreexMost symbian are EKA 2Nov 13 14:18
oiaohmEKA 1 is highly power effective.Nov 13 14:18
oiaohmcompared symbian.Nov 13 14:18
gnufreexEKa i microkernelNov 13 14:19
gnufreexAnd it runs serversNov 13 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: Your avi is improving :)Nov 13 14:19
gnufreexI mean like servicesNov 13 14:20
gnufreexAnd Nokia uses diferent servers/services for diferent platformsNov 13 14:20
gnufreexAll on same microkernelNov 13 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @toros #WebUpd8: First #Compiz Based !Unity Screenshots (Ubuntu #Natty !PPA) http://goo.gl/dx1Kk !u - with screenshots from !mogorvam ...Nov 13 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Foursquare's Dennis Crowley on Future of Geolocation Start-Up | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD http://ur1.ca/2c873Nov 13 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @seeds especially on what they DID NOT DO to help the Burmese following Typhoon Nargis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_NargisNov 13 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Why on earth do Wales insist on closing their roofNov 13 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Plasma-desktop in KDE (4.5) is a very pleasant and good-looking experience. Well done and congrats to the team behind it.Nov 13 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @harishpillay man that was crucial.Nov 13 14:26
oiaohmI remember the difference gnufreexNov 13 14:28
oiaohmS40 is 1 process at a time.Nov 13 14:28
oiaohmNo exceptions.Nov 13 14:28
oiaohmNo background services.Nov 13 14:28
oiaohmState of applications just saved to change to another.Nov 13 14:29
oiaohmThe first microkernel of Nokia's does not have multi tasking.Nov 13 14:29
oiaohmYes has task switching but that is it.Nov 13 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Lovely weather here at leastNov 13 14:31
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gnufreexTrying to find specifics now, but it seems there are no any.Nov 13 14:31
gnufreexWith some microkernels, you can implement multi tasking in user space. And remove it at will.Nov 13 14:32
gnufreexViengoos does that.Nov 13 14:32
gnufreexNot sure about EKA.Nov 13 14:32
gnufreexMaybe S40 don't run EKANov 13 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @rewarp: How US military needs overrule human rights. http://the-diplomat.com/2010/11/11/the-us-and-its-friendly-dictator/Nov 13 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Wales score a try by crossingNov 13 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Fedora To Eventually Move to Wayland, Too http://ur1.ca/2c8am !fedora #waylandNov 13 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @rms: Illegal, unregulated mining in Chile http://ur1.ca/2c898Nov 13 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn or without weakening of definition of copyleft and compatibility in a particular case - see e.g. !GPLv3 and !AGPLv3Nov 13 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I don't think !GPLv3 / !AGPLv3 compatibility weakens either copyleft. Is that what you are saying or did I misunderstand?Nov 13 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #sanctuaryNov 13 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Oh for god's sake, South Africa are shitNov 13 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] dogs as living werewolves cousins. last #supernatural episodeNov 13 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn Is there any way to make MPL a GPL-Compatible? (I mean, to add relicensing clause) They are revisiting it now. There is a need IMONov 13 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, gonna cross my fingers and try this for Ati Radeon HD5450 on !fedora : http://ur1.ca/2c8cgNov 13 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: #netneutrality Know your power: if you are cut off from #Skype: vote with your feet and leave your #mobile providerNov 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, any #copyleft license can add explicit compatibility clause. It's trivial way to make two copylefts compatible (see GPLv3/AGPlv3)Nov 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @gnufreex Need being: They already triple-license, so why not add re-licensing clause and use only MPL?Nov 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching historical footage of Europeans killing each other. #terribleNov 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn I know that. See the dent below.Nov 13 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Reflections of a week at an international standards meeting - http://ur1.ca/2c8d1 #fbNov 13 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad dealt with a lot of crap today: !linaro stuff is offered as #ubuntu stuff, !pandaboard seems to be dead on arrival, #mips mac ...Nov 13 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn each license explicitly weakens its own #copyleft to allow compatibility with the other - that's how I see it anywayNov 13 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @evan To my friends everywhere: data portability and federated social networks matter. End of line.Nov 13 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, I've never really understood #Mozilla's obsession w/ having their own license if all their code is tri-licensed anyway.Nov 13 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn If you can't see it, I mean this one http://identi.ca/notice/58519706 and by "they" I meant Mozilla foundation.Nov 13 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] South Africa very quiet indeed, you'd have thought they were WalesNov 13 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, my advice to #Mozilla would be to write an exception set to #GPLv3 that explained exactly the permissions they wanted to grant.Nov 13 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I agree !AGPLv3 copyleft weakens itself for !GPLv3 compatibility. I don't believe that the inverse of that statement is true.Nov 13 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] man #XMPP is way lagged compared to the websiteNov 13 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] hmmm...or notNov 13 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn Same with me. They probably want "per file" copyleft, and they want to be GPL-compatible so they 3-license. But they could fuse thoseNov 13 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @gnufreex, IMO "per file" copyleft is a somewhat pointless concept,but it would be straightforward to write exception set to !GPLv3 for thisNov 13 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn both are strong copyleft licenses ∴​ both licenses must weaken copylefts to achieve particular kind of compatibility they achieveNov 13 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn ... In MPL v2 with relicensing clause. (You know that they are revisiting MPL now, do you?)Nov 13 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana,Sure, but only in theory. In practice, !AGPLv3 copyleft is stronger & !GPLv3 code combining w/ as a whole has stronger avg copyleftNov 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I've never understood why both !GPL and #LGPL is in the tri-license but I guess it's a matter of symbolismNov 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ireland is in talks with Eurozone officials for financial help. #economicsNov 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @rysiek the land where DICKtionary wars are common?Nov 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @bkuhn it was a figure of speech on my part. there was something about "not deserving respect" (which is pretty close to scum).Nov 13 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @thistleweb *whooosh*. well played, sir, well played indeed.Nov 13 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn yes, that's true; ∃ distinction between compatibility theory (orthodox or otherwise) and actual practiceNov 13 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Yikes, that's a lot of bloodNov 13 15:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, the only rational explanation for licensing something disjunctively both with LGPL *and* GPL is symbolism, so that must be it.Nov 13 15:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @bkuhn Agree. Companies can modify only their files and never add anything under MPL. And GPL incomp' makes problem for Free World.Nov 13 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @rysiek, I've seen trolls do that, but no one who is taken seriously. Perhaps you're believing trolls represent opinions of whole community?Nov 13 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @opensourceway pages like this one http://ur.ly/ukJ7 resize one's _entire_ browser. I thought this stopped 10 years ago (vbscript)?Nov 13 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @bkuhn far from that! I was just wondering where do troll like that come from. and how do they get into the community in the first placeNov 13 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @rysiek, trolls come looking for places like the Free Software community. Anywhere there's open membership to all who show up, trolls appearNov 13 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] First Compiz Based Unity Screenshots [Ubuntu Natty PPA] http://bit.ly/aAvZqGNov 13 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @bkuhn @rysiek, trolls come looking for places like the Free Software community. Anywhere there's open membership to all who show up, ...Nov 13 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who, me? Most prolific in identi.ca on Thursday (w/ 90 dents). Either the site's volume decreases or I post too much.Nov 13 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I tend to dislike excessive amounts of such symbolism, though it's okay in small dosesNov 13 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rsandu ♺ @DeviceGuru: #Android phone solves #Rubik’s cube in 12.5 seconds: http://bit.ly/cxEksONov 13 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: Chuckles to self while watching film.Nov 13 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I'm bothered by idea some might think LGPL and GPL are somehow incompatible. Oh wait, um, well, when the version number matches :)Nov 13 15:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Was offline for a bit as I unplugged the router while we reorganising some furniture...Nov 13 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lamm Dear fellow citizens, supporting candidates who openly oppose war is a great way to thank me. Sincerely, a US army veteran.Nov 13 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gomerx !Debian IS the commmunity. We don't need a commmunity manager, but we could do better at communicating with each other.Nov 13 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn 3+ years on I don't think notion of LGPLv3-{GPLv2only} incompatibility has turned out to be major social problemNov 13 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] How to use SSH as an Internet Connection Sharing Tunnel: http://tinyurl.com/sshics !fs !linux !bsdNov 13 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I've seen it #problematic in some places. Worst part:it was easy to fix,if those in control of GPLv3 hadn't completely ignored me.Nov 13 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The X Input 2.1 Multi-Touch Implementation Is Here: Canonical's Chase Douglas has corralled Daniel Stone's X Inp... http://bit.ly/alL6LHNov 13 15:39
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ml2mstDamn, I don't have English spell checking on Xchat, this will probably be a disaster :-(Nov 13 15:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn yes I think your suggestion if I remember it correctly was a good oneNov 13 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The millennium stadium pitch is appallingNov 13 15:43
ml2mstGoing out for some shopping again (live on top of a mall) BRB ;-)Nov 13 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Yus, South AfricaNov 13 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #hak5Nov 13 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Good lord, South Africa have certainly come alive!Nov 13 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Matfield's obviously been watching Richie Gray !rugbyNov 13 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, dates!Nov 13 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] What, Wales score another try; what on earth is going on?Nov 13 15:49
schestowitzHi, ml2mstNov 13 15:52
schestowitzCan you record now?Nov 13 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jezra @wildcard performing the purge now. Wow, that's a lot of shit to install just for tomboy.Nov 13 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @wildcard @jezra isn't it for that f-spot s**t (among others) as well?Nov 13 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Dear !GPL Violators, for something to be consider actuallly buildable, it means, e.g., "make" should still work after typing "make clean".Nov 13 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !fedora 14, stay away from proprietary Amd/Ati catalyst 10.10. Wait for a 14 guide (currently unavailable) http://ur1.ca/2c8q0Nov 13 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Brian Moore is a moany plonkerNov 13 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just a quick !StopUBB post "UBB Q&A: the Facts #1" http://ur1.ca/2c8qp <Correcting Usage Based Billing misinformation for !Canada #cdnpoliNov 13 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Whenever I hit the music coming home from skating class, I end up with a new axe. Skate lessons are a lot more expensive than I expected!Nov 13 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] At least the Welsh crowd are fairNov 13 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] South Pole ozone hole caused more by cosmic rays than CFCs? http://www.science.uwaterloo.ca/%7Eqblu/Lu-2009PRL.pdfNov 13 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Re headline "Microsoft not amused by open source Kinect drivers" > okay, well it was never done to amuse Microsoft. Hackers are not jesters.Nov 13 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mars not amused by greenhouse effect on EarthNov 13 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] A Wikipedia article largely about T.S. Eliot spells T.S. Eliot wrong... (fixed)Nov 13 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Re headline "Microsoft not amused by open source Kinect drivers" > okay, well it was never done to amuse Microsoft. Hack ...Nov 13 16:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I would be very interested to see a developer manage to not be a user.Nov 13 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Any developer who wishes to privilege developers over users will soon find out just how many other developers they are downstream of.Nov 13 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz F word to Micro$hitNov 13 16:09
gnufreexMicrosoft patents FOOTGUN http://techflash.com/seattle/2010/11/giving-windows-the-boot-microsoft.htmlNov 13 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Give your keyboard the boot? Microsoft patents foot interface .::. Size~: 54.34 KBNov 13 16:10
schestowitzNow they can shoot their own foot and have a monopoly on it, tooNov 13 16:13
gnufreexIt this dumb world, you can get rich by patenting footgun.Nov 13 16:14
schestowitzjust shows Microsoft desperate for PR and something profitable as it becomes more of a patent troll.Nov 13 16:14
schestowitzSurface will die, says a Microsoft booster.Nov 13 16:14
gnufreexSeriously now: It is really foot interface. Like a foot keyboard. I call it footgun because someone might play FPS hames with it.Nov 13 16:15
ml2mst@gnufreex: what FPS games with Kinect? LOL :-)Nov 13 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Red Hat's Secret Patent Deal http://ur1.ca/2c8va (via @slashdot)Nov 13 16:18
gnufreexI don't know how it works ml2mstNov 13 16:18
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gnufreexI just assumed.Nov 13 16:18
gnufreexDon't have time to read about MicrosuftNov 13 16:18
ml2mstNeither do I :-)Nov 13 16:18
schestowitzI stopped tooNov 13 16:19
schestowitzThey aren't worth it now cause some years from now people may not careNov 13 16:19
schestowitzLike people no longer pay attention to Novell, not even the pressNov 13 16:19
gnufreexschestowiz: But how they can do evil when nobody's watching.Nov 13 16:19
schestowitzWriting about them is only feeding what's a company on the block (for sale)Nov 13 16:19
ml2mstKinect is obviously a bunch of cameras, playing a FPS with it would be great excorsize (sorry no English spellchecking)Nov 13 16:20
schestowitzgnufreex: I knowNov 13 16:20
schestowitzml2mst: can you record now?Nov 13 16:22
ml2mst@schestowitz: yes, how?Nov 13 16:22
ml2mstSkype, Ekiga, or simply a local recording?Nov 13 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Wise Prince [IMG] http://ur.ly/uFhiNov 13 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Thank christ, that was a close one !rugbyNov 13 16:23
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schestowitzThe recoderding software we currently use does not support ekigaNov 13 16:23
schestowitzBut it can do spy-peNov 13 16:23
ml2mstAh, OK. Spy-pee audio recording works well here (IIRC)Nov 13 16:24
schestowitzCan you connect to it?Nov 13 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Please. Number of patent applications per country is not a measure for innovationNov 13 16:26
schestowitzhttp://cantbeunseen.com/what-has-been-seen/popular/16998-computers-are-like-air-condNov 13 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @robmyers well said. The user/dev. Or user/admin stuff is just another form of classismNov 13 16:28
gnufreexUgh... I just read some thread on Ubuntu forums. It is disgusting how much .NET evangelism they are doing. Even mods.Nov 13 16:28
gnufreexnot Mono, real ASP.NETNov 13 16:29
gnufreexRecomending to people who ask about languages.Nov 13 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] trying to set-up a local #Mozilla #Weave/#Sync server, but no bin/paster after make build. am I missing something, or @tarek_ziade is?..Nov 13 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @freemor: @robmyers well said. The user/dev. Or user/admin stuff is just another form of classismNov 13 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] YaRock 0.0.35 Adds Automatic Cover Art Fetching, Playlists Support http://bit.ly/ciuidXNov 13 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] Ray Strode is fucking brilliant.Nov 13 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “NGC 7023: The Iris Nebula”: http://bit.ly/boVuMMNov 13 16:33
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cubezzzI knew one guy who used to say "all I need to learn is vb script" :)Nov 13 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] On to the All Blacks !rugbyNov 13 16:36
schestowitzgnufreex: maybe they lose, so they choose to go look for winnersNov 13 16:37
gnufreexI think Ubuntu is dead, sooner or later. Ubuntu users are mostly clueless, and if those sfuff is advertised on forums, by mods even, they will go back to Microsoft as soon they have first problem with free software.Nov 13 16:39
gnufreexThey will never make anything good for software freedom. If they succed, it will be because porpriatary software.Nov 13 16:39
gnufreexAnd they will never get rid of propriatary software.Nov 13 16:40
gnufreexI think I will start BoycottCanonical site.Nov 13 16:40
MinceR:)Nov 13 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks WikiLeaks Ban or Global Secrecy Act? http://ur.ly/uCWeNov 13 16:41
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gnufreexMinceR: I am serious. I made a blog on WordPress, but didn't yet write anything.Nov 13 16:42
MinceRtell me when you have a postNov 13 16:42
*MinceR is interestedNov 13 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will the EU permit a slow-lane Internet? - http://bit.ly/aQCeBv more depressing analysis of EU #netneutrality meetingNov 13 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Further thoughts on net neutrality summit - http://bit.ly/aLG2EL Malcolm Harbour MEP behaving badly #netneutrality #euNov 13 16:43
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gnufreexI originally wanted to write about anything... but I am more and more sure it will be a lot about Canonical.Nov 13 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Brutal Decline Of Yahoo Is Now An Infographic http://ur.ly/uKdsNov 13 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EU Parliamentarian @MarietjeD66 demands answers on US behavior to WikiLeaks http://ur.ly/udbjNov 13 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "So you guys here in Texas think you are tough, eh?" - Bruce in Houston ... LOLNov 13 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Now we're gonna separate the men and women... from the boys and the girls." LOLNov 13 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Sports reporters replaced by robots! (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/9NjQPONov 13 16:56
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cubezzzdidn't know yahoo tried to buy googleNov 13 16:57
gnufreexIt will be very bad if Yahoo goes down.Nov 13 17:00
cubezzzwhy bad?Nov 13 17:00
gnufreexBut then, it is bad this way when it is powered by BingNov 13 17:00
gnufreexcubezzz Google will rule internetNov 13 17:00
gnufreexThat is badNov 13 17:00
gnufreexNot because it is googleNov 13 17:00
gnufreexBut because absolute power corrupts absolutelyNov 13 17:01
cubezzznot as bad as Microsoft ruling itNov 13 17:01
cubezzzbut I see your pointNov 13 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @belalugosi <rant> !kadressbook is still a pain in the a**. no distribution lists, no groups... hope it gets some love in the future ...Nov 13 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Diamonds are Forever is on thoughNov 13 17:04
schestowitzGogle POWA!Nov 13 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Dear !lazyweb, Any recommended digital audio player that supports Ogg? !playoggNov 13 17:08
schestowitzGoogol doesn't need to kill youNov 13 17:08
schestowitzIt just delists you :-)Nov 13 17:08
schestowitzLike StalinNov 13 17:08
gnufreexHaha, exactly what I was saying. I wish they delist Microsoft, though.Nov 13 17:09
schestowitzml2mst: let me know when the microphone works/is set up betterNov 13 17:09
schestowitzgnufreex: antitrustNov 13 17:09
gnufreexYeah.Nov 13 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1379177/Nov 13 17:11
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ml2mst@schestowitz: I should buy a new Microphone :-pNov 13 17:15
schestowitzgnufreex: http://youtubeukblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/great-scott-over-35-hours-of-video.htmlNov 13 17:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube UK Blog: Great Scott! Over 35 Hours of Video Uploaded Every Minute to YouTube .::. Size~: 72.25 KBNov 13 17:17
MinceRi thought stalin did have people killedNov 13 17:17
schestowitzread and weepNov 13 17:17
schestowitzMinceR: can borrow one maybeNov 13 17:17
schestowitzMinceR: and then GIMPed them out of photosNov 13 17:18
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gnufreexschestowitz: Who's that guy?Nov 13 17:19
schestowitzblogger/Nov 13 17:20
schestowitz http://youtubeukblog.blogspot.com = GoogleNov 13 17:20
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schestowitzThey can't monitor at this paceNov 13 17:20
gnufreexAha.... I first thought he talks about some guyNov 13 17:20
schestowitzThey rely on flaggingNov 13 17:20
gnufreexWho upooads stuff.Nov 13 17:20
gnufreexMust read thoroughly....Nov 13 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @toros #Fedora devs on switching to #Wayland: it's likely to happen eventually because it's a serious win for a lot.. http://goo.gl/dvHoONov 13 17:21
gnufreexWhat Wayland means for other OSs.. BSD, solaris.. Hurd?Nov 13 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody Sounds true to form.Nov 13 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] ArghhaNov 13 17:24
MinceRQt support on android doesn't seem to be all that goodNov 13 17:25
MinceRhttp://groups.google.com/group/android-ndk/browse_thread/thread/a6c097fbdd3acd22Nov 13 17:25
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MinceR(see also  https://groups.google.com/group/android-ndk/browse_thread/thread/5642bcc68746dab1?pli=1 )Nov 13 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] That was forwardsNov 13 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US government has compiled a helpful list of .. "piracy" sites http://ur1.ca/2atzx What for? We already know Somalia is hot site for piracy.Nov 13 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If states get to call file sharing "piracy" can we please call companies that make bogus lawsuits "terrorists" and patent trolls "pedos"?Nov 13 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Fucking hellNov 13 17:33
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schestowitzMinceR: android hates qtNov 13 17:33
schestowitzIn the same that Google is a major Nokia rivalNov 13 17:34
schestowitzAnd Nokia hates AndroidNov 13 17:34
schestowitzThey say that's why Nokia bought the trolls in 08Nov 13 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Sense Hofstede: Language barrier is an innovation barrier http://goo.gl/q4hz3Nov 13 17:36
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*Wulf|away is now known as WireWulfNov 13 17:36
schestowitzvNov 13 17:37
schestowitzhttp://londonist.com/2010/11/in_pictures_a_new_bus_for_london.php?gallery0Pic=1#galleryNov 13 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] T @mmasnick Murdoch: "1st rule of monetizing content is that you should not give it away for free" Um: TV? Radio?Nov 13 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] @robmyers perhaps @reality is entering machine code in binary from the front panel of a pdp-11 or the like :>Nov 13 17:38
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schestowitzhttp://www.v3.co.uk/v3/analysis/2273036/experts-say-openoffice-doomedNov 13 17:40
schestowitzthey make many such headlnesNov 13 17:40
schestowitzopenoffice-doomedNov 13 17:40
schestowitz_Goblin: I tried testing marti's sideNov 13 17:40
MinceRschestowitz: so users and application developers lose the fight, as usualNov 13 17:41
_GoblinHi!Nov 13 17:41
schestowitzBut his mi produces a lot of noise... enough to VERSHELM the voiceNov 13 17:41
schestowitzoverwhelm evenNov 13 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @bruce89 better than a wank in heave.....oh wait, I've used that one..carry on lolNov 13 17:41
_Goblinshame...Nov 13 17:41
schestowitzMinceR: it's not about usersNov 13 17:41
schestowitzThey are "con soo mas"Nov 13 17:41
MinceRi knowNov 13 17:41
_GoblinI would love to chat with MartyNov 13 17:42
_GoblinDid you get my show notes?Nov 13 17:42
schestowitzYesNov 13 17:42
_Goblin:)Nov 13 17:42
schestowitzI expanded on them for a summaryNov 13 17:42
MinceRi wonder when (if ever) will we get a smartphone platform that doesn't completely suck dickNov 13 17:42
schestowitzI have lots to say about FedoraNov 13 17:42
schestowitzWe should make it a focusNov 13 17:42
_Goblinre: Mic...if you are looking at getting a new one...the HP I have has been excellent.Nov 13 17:42
schestowitzAlso, since we start the show just as it's released, it makes sense. In the future we'll focus on other distrosNov 13 17:43
schestowitz_Goblin: bbq sauce?Nov 13 17:43
schestowitzFrom bham?Nov 13 17:43
_Goblinbrown!Nov 13 17:43
schestowitzEww..Nov 13 17:43
schestowitz:)Nov 13 17:43
schestowitzActually, brown is good tooNov 13 17:43
_GoblinHoes was the best sauce....came from the north too.Nov 13 17:43
_Goblinand Lidl's do a very spicy brown sauce which is very nice...............Nov 13 17:44
schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MS Kinect hacked already lol ya have to laugh at MS's attempts to limit their customers http://bbc.in/cOIKP6Nov 13 17:44
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schestowitzhacked :Nov 13 17:45
schestowitz:-)Nov 13 17:45
_Goblin£35 worth of tech apparently.Nov 13 17:45
schestowitzFunny they use the same words as when people destroy thingsNov 13 17:45
_Goblinaim for an 830 recording?Nov 13 17:45
_Goblingonna have shower and things first.Nov 13 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @techglance: Netflix headed to 'select Android devices' early next year http://bit.ly/dwIIGpNov 13 17:46
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schestowitzokNov 13 17:47
schestowitzI'll finish scanning some newsNov 13 17:47
_Goblincool....Nov 13 17:47
ml2mst@_Goblin: Hi Pal ;-)Nov 13 17:47
gnufreexGood summary of Wayland: "> It looked like a bunch of kiddies who had never used remote XNov 13 17:48
gnufreex> applications had decided we didn't need to do that anymore, and it wasNov 13 17:48
gnufreex> more important to get kewl features like smooth scrolling and rotatingNov 13 17:48
gnufreex> 3D whatnots."Nov 13 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC uses same term ("hack") to describe use of one's own hardware and destruction of someone else's site/PC: http://bbc.in/cOIKP6 #bbcNov 13 17:48
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MinceRafaik x can still work under wayland for remote appsNov 13 17:48
sebsebsebhmm older brother wanting to get a lap top stuff again, since one wasn't bought before,  about all he does is goes on FacebookNov 13 17:49
ml2mst@_Goblin, so sorry, get yourself a nice shower and have fun man ;-)Nov 13 17:49
gnufreexAll old graphich harware won't workNov 13 17:49
gnufreexX drivers don't work on WaylandNov 13 17:49
sebsebsebanyway I am actsually thinking at the moment, maybe System76 with Ubuntu, when they start selling in UK at the end of the month hmmNov 13 17:49
gnufreexNVIDIA will not make driver for waylandNov 13 17:49
MinceRtrueNov 13 17:49
gnufreexProbably AMD wont too.Nov 13 17:49
gnufreexHooray for open source driversNov 13 17:50
sebsebsebcurrently Gnome 2 isn't that great really for people like that I guess,  except for distros like Mint and maybe even Ubuntu with their badly implemented Gnome patchesNov 13 17:50
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sebsebsebplus can always put another distro on later on, if doing that anyway so :DNov 13 17:50
*sebsebseb thinks things will get interesting once 11.04 Desktop is doing Unity by default, yeah interesting to see how well loads of their not so technical users, which is the majority of the user base really I guess, but to see how they deal with the changeNov 13 17:51
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sebsebsebmaybe mainly when it comes to users,  Unity will be for the new ignorant Ubuntu users, and Ubuntu fan boys and fan girls even,  and Gnome Shell mainly well people who are more expereinced with Desktop Linux ?Nov 13 17:52
MinceRyou mean, whether canonical can force nvidia to develop a proper dri2 driver? :>Nov 13 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Great, Parks is injured. We're fuckedNov 13 17:53
schestowitzhttp://londonist.com/2010/11/in_pictures_a_new_bus_for_london.php?gallery0Pic=4#galleryNov 13 17:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Pictures: A New Bus For London - Londonist .::. Size~: 37.02 KBNov 13 17:54
ml2mstHmm. I'm pretty curious about Wayland and Unity, but let's not run out of conclusion, maybe it rocks or maybe it sucks, let's wait and see. It's a personal preference too!Nov 13 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] got me my own #Mozilla #Sync server (thanks to @tarek_ziade) - hell yeah! now to configure and publish it... #win #awesomeNov 13 17:54
MinceRsame hereNov 13 17:55
sebsebsebml2mst: to be honest I am impressed with Unity so far realyNov 13 17:55
sebsebsebfrom well seeing it before I even tried it on omgubuntu and suchNov 13 17:55
sebsebsebto then actsaully trying itNov 13 17:55
sebsebsebso yeah I installed Unity into 10.10 and tried it for about a week or so, and yeah it was alright, except for when it crashedNov 13 17:55
sebsebseband by the looks of it what  they had about Unity with Compiz recently, uhmm that will be ok I guessNov 13 17:56
sebsebsebGnome Shell I am also likeing :)Nov 13 17:56
sebsebsebhowever thats just a window manager on top of Gnome 2,  so lacks features at the moment, and yeah Unity can do well quite a lot more at the momentNov 13 17:56
sebsebsebhopefuly they improve Gnome Shell quite a lot for the actsaul final of Gnome 3 though :)   since it lacks features,  weather feature for example, which is nice to have in Gnome 2 at times I findNov 13 17:57
schestowitzkde's plasma-desktop is neatNov 13 17:57
schestowitzalbeit limitingNov 13 17:57
schestowitzhas anyone else used it?Nov 13 17:57
sebsebseband most new users want features, and well  they will be getting plenty of that with Unity,  but I am not sure about Gnome ShellNov 13 17:57
schestowitzIt reminded me of unityNov 13 17:57
sebsebsebI have this feeling that Gnome Shell will be released in the Gnome 3 final, similar to how it is now, and then they will probably start adding in featuresNov 13 17:58
schestowitznew paradigms are worth trying, stupid smartphones become all the same too, like palm osNov 13 17:58
sebsebseband yeah the KDE netbook interface is also meant to be pretty goodNov 13 17:58
schestowitzit does some 3-d stuffNov 13 17:58
sebsebsebschestowitz: well how Gnome Shell opens the apps is a bit like a mobile phone?Nov 13 17:58
schestowitzsimilar to shellNov 13 17:58
ml2mst@sebsebseb: I didn't like Unity (tested it on my 17" laptop) Didn't like Gnome Shell ether. Think I'm going with KDENov 13 17:58
sebsebsebml2mst: you did a @sebsebseb  this isn't identicaNov 13 17:59
schestowitzkd eeeNov 13 17:59
sebsebsebmy older brother doesn't really care what he runsNov 13 17:59
sebsebsebhe  started using Ubuntu with 9.10 on the other computer,  because XP messed up and yeahNov 13 17:59
sebsebsebthen  10.04 for a bit,  then I replaced it with Mandriva,  after it refused to let anyone log in, and I don't know whyNov 13 17:59
sebsebsebso yeah hes been using KDE 4 every now and again now for a while in MandrivaNov 13 17:59
ml2mstsebsebseb: shame on me :-(Nov 13 18:00
sebsebsebhe doesn't seem to care much about stuff like that, he just wants to use the computer for what he wants to do,  Facebook and what notNov 13 18:00
sebsebseband yes technically things are hmm with Unity,  copyright assignments  and how other distros won't just use itNov 13 18:00
sebsebseb,but from a  average end user poit of view, I guess it will be quite good reallyNov 13 18:00
sebsebsebits got their social networking feature and sound menu and so on.  also on the subject of those,  another reason I lilked trying Unity and what I had seen before trying, is  it basically makes those horribly implemented average consumer Gnome patches that they did to Ubuntu,  well  ok really in UnityNov 13 18:01
sebsebsebMint won't be using Unity or Gnome Shell in the next version.  OpenSuse seemed ok from my trying from a Linux Format DVD recently,  of 11.4 milestone or whatever, but I can't recommend thatNov 13 18:02
ml2mstI think I'm going with Fedora 14 KDE :-pNov 13 18:03
sebsebsebMandriva well not sure where thats going, but they will dump Gnome unless community make and such.   the Mageia fork,  will just be a re branded Mandriva, so I guess quite similar, for the first version.   Fedora I can't recommend to my brother, and I won't recommend DebianNov 13 18:03
sebsebsebso yeah I am not that keen on Ubuntu anymore,  I am thinking maybe Ubuntu. I mean he would use pretty much any distro, as long as he can do what he wants to do on the computer with it.Nov 13 18:04
sebsebsebml2mst: I don't like KDE 4 in FedoraNov 13 18:04
sebsebsebaltough I am not exactly a KDE 4 fan,  I was always like NO! as a desktp envirionment untill trying development version of Mandriva 2010.0  in a virtual machine or wheever I first tried the Mandriva  KDENov 13 18:04
schestowitzWhat's wrong with it?Nov 13 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Scotland are utter shitNov 13 18:04
schestowitzI mean, I saw a bug todayNov 13 18:04
sebsebseb,but I do mix KDE and Gnome apps, since 2004/5Nov 13 18:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: I just simpally don't tend to like KDE 4  as an actsaul desktop envirionment, unless a distro sets it up good by default, which is something Mandriva did :)  and from what I saw  it seems OpenSuse does as wellNov 13 18:05
sebsebsebKDE 4 is all geek to customise and uh, so I like a distro that sets it up good by defaultNov 13 18:05
_Goblinml2mst: sorry mate I was off an on the PC! - Hi!Nov 13 18:06
ml2mstYeah, I would also like to know what on Earth is wrong with KDE4Nov 13 18:06
sebsebsebhowever enabling the background changer slide show in KDE 4,  in Mandriva, with what the distro comes with and for the 2010.1 the addiotnal backgrounds, well wow :)Nov 13 18:06
sebsebsebchanging to lovely  pictures/photos after 10 seconds by default when doing that  and yeah things go really :)Nov 13 18:06
sebsebsebKDE 4 as a desktop environment like I am saying, NO!  most of the time for meNov 13 18:07
sebsebsebunless well see aboveNov 13 18:07
sebsebsebKDE 3 on the other hand well that was quite nice, but when that was the KDE,  I would still mainly use Gnome, like I mainly use Gnome nowNov 13 18:07
_Goblinml2mst: after recording tonight Ill come back on your BBS....Hopefully I can see you there!Nov 13 18:07
ml2mst_Goblin: Never Mind Tim, I am the one who needs to appologize for make you waiting so long.Nov 13 18:07
sebsebsebGnome does lack features, but what it has tends to be good, and how distros set up Gnome tends to be good, and its nice and keep it simple stupid, to customise and such unlike KDE :(Nov 13 18:07
ml2mst_Goblin: Hope you are well and my appologies for my LAME English (no spellchecker in Xchat) :-(Nov 13 18:08
sebsebsebheh I actsaully got my brothers using KDE 4 in Mandriva also, because well it looks more like  Windows by defaultNov 13 18:08
MinceRimo kde lost its direction with v4Nov 13 18:08
sebsebseb:) good MinceR is on my side for this one awesome :)Nov 13 18:08
sebsebsebMinceR: yeah something about it, rather differnet to KDE 3 :(Nov 13 18:09
gnufreexIt got direction again, then.Nov 13 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody Turing/Berners-Lee stood on shoulders of giants, became famous like Edison. What about Tesla?Nov 13 18:09
schestowitzFunny that the statement from Microsoft is the most sane in that article... "https://identi.ca/notice/58532848"Nov 13 18:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Saturday, 13-Nov-10 17:46:56 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.69 KBNov 13 18:10
MinceRyes, a wrong oneNov 13 18:10
sebsebsebMinceR: for quite a lot of us yes, but for others noNov 13 18:10
MinceRmonolithic, unstable, bling-centricNov 13 18:10
sebsebsebanyway quite a lot of people still running KDE 3Nov 13 18:10
MinceRdebian stable still has kde3, afaikNov 13 18:10
sebsebseband some Ubuntu community member or whatever,  started the Trinity projectNov 13 18:11
sebsebsebKDE 3 fork basically for  Ubuntu and DebianNov 13 18:11
*WireWulf uses matchBOX XDNov 13 18:11
schestowitzMinceR: sounds like MicrooftNov 13 18:11
schestowitzmonolithic, unstable, bong-centricNov 13 18:11
MinceRsadly, a lot of IT is like thatNov 13 18:11
WireWulfschestowitz: bong-centric?Nov 13 18:11
schestowitzor bling.comNov 13 18:11
MinceRdoesn't matter if it's inflexible and doesn't work well, all that matters is that it must look "cool"Nov 13 18:12
MinceRdong.comNov 13 18:12
schestowitzNo headlines about bong/bling anymoreNov 13 18:12
schestowitzIt's dead as a duckNov 13 18:12
MinceRwell, fuckerberg advertised bìng recently, iircNov 13 18:12
schestowitzMinceR: bing.com LOLNov 13 18:12
schestowitzMinceR: _Goblin says bing is a pileNov 13 18:12
WireWulfwell that fork of arch has KDEmod (which is theirs)Nov 13 18:12
schestowitzlike steaming pile, in arcane languageNov 13 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] At least Wales lostNov 13 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @chittha: @SrBachchan आप की हिन्दी तो खूब है ही, कभी देवनागरी में भी लिखिए तो मज़ा आ जाए। मुश्किल ... http://bit.ly/c6OH86Nov 13 18:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / रमण कौल: @SrBachchan आप की हिन्दी त ... .::. Size~: 13.08 KBNov 13 18:13
schestowitzMinceR: fuckerberg builds a newer hotmail for BallmerNov 13 18:13
_Goblinschestowitz: Dictionary definition of "Bing" is a heap or a pile.......Nov 13 18:13
schestowitzof WHAT?Nov 13 18:13
WireWulflmaoNov 13 18:13
schestowitzit's a bing of ***Nov 13 18:13
ThistleWebbing is an old scottish term I thinkNov 13 18:13
sebsebseb_Goblin: on the subject of dictionaires Gnome Dictionairy won't be on the Ubuntu 11.04 ISONov 13 18:13
_Goblinschestowitz: something not good whatever its a pile of...Nov 13 18:13
ThistleWebbut yeah it's a pileNov 13 18:14
sebsebseb_Goblin: and I have known that for quite a while nowNov 13 18:14
schestowitzwhen something is not wanted it's thrown in a pileNov 13 18:14
schestowitzStop piling on pile.com !!Nov 13 18:14
_Goblinwasn't a bing a pile of manure?Nov 13 18:14
sebsebsebhmm anyway maybe my brother getting a pre installed Ubuntu system76 when they start selling to UK,  could be a pretty good idea, at least that way also its from the OEM by default and all that, and so hardware should be rather fine indeed and all that :)Nov 13 18:15
schestowitzdogpile.com search comes to mindNov 13 18:15
ml2mstwhat a pile of Bing :-(Nov 13 18:15
schestowitzhttp://www.arnoldexposed.com/Nov 13 18:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Arnold Exposed .::. Size~: 17.88 KBNov 13 18:15
sebsebsebthing is I think system76's have been quite expensive so far in USA and Canada, so I wonder about here hmmNov 13 18:15
schestowitzoops. wrong channmelNov 13 18:15
ThistleWebthe pile was something to do with farming, or crofting so it may beNov 13 18:15
sebsebsebi'll pay for some of it, but neither of us will want to pay loads and loadsNov 13 18:16
_Goblinsort of off topic.....Nov 13 18:16
_Goblinmy wife cut my lads hair todayNov 13 18:16
_Goblinhe looks like a spartanNov 13 18:16
_Goblinor the GladiatorNov 13 18:16
schestowitzFedoraNov 13 18:16
schestowitz?Nov 13 18:16
schestowitzpot on head, cutaround?Nov 13 18:16
_GoblinyepNov 13 18:17
_Goblinsort of a short russel crowe fringeNov 13 18:17
*sebsebseb isn't so keen on Desktop Linux at the moment to be honest, since well a lot of it is going to be obsolute soon, since Gnome 3 and UnityNov 13 18:17
ml2mstLOL :-)Nov 13 18:17
_GoblinIve been teaching him to shout "For Sparta"Nov 13 18:17
*schestowitz isn't so kinNov 13 18:17
MinceRi won't be obsoleteNov 13 18:17
MinceRyouNov 13 18:17
MinceRyou'll just have a few more optionsNov 13 18:17
MinceRfor better or worseNov 13 18:17
WireWulfoutdated due to GNOME3 and ?Unity ?Nov 13 18:17
WireWulfwtf I use fluxbox XDNov 13 18:17
*WireWulf stays uneffectedNov 13 18:18
sebsebsebwell there will still be distros doing Gnome 3 sure, but  it will be mainly about  Gnome 3 and Unity  next yearNov 13 18:18
sebsebseband KDE and what not of courseNov 13 18:18
sebsebsebGnome Shell and Unity, thats what things will be about, for most Desktop Linux users though I guess next yearNov 13 18:18
sebsebsebor one or the otherNov 13 18:18
sebsebsebso I can't even just use a distro 100% happily at the moment before Mageia, since how things are and all thatNov 13 18:19
sebsebsebon this computer,  other still has Mandriva :)Nov 13 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I don't know why I look forward to theseNov 13 18:19
sebsebsebanyway not quite sure,  when maybe tommorow, maybe Monday, but yeah something like that, and I am going to remove Fedora 14 from this computer, and do PC Linux OSNov 13 18:20
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sebsebsebthen  I think i'll give Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 1 a try on this computer for real, on real hardware,  before the alpha 1 of Mageia :)Nov 13 18:20
sebsebsebboth next month :DNov 13 18:20
WireWulfsebsebseb: linux is hard about the DE but freedom I use X11 as my DE ad fluxbox as my WM lots of lin 94(or old skool linuxx users) hate KDE and GNOMENov 13 18:21
sebsebseband then hopefuly I can set up Virtualbox properly, so that I can test Compiz Unity sometimes, but without  pshycially installing Ubuntu :)Nov 13 18:21
sebsebsebWireWulf: and yeah there are quite a lot of people who like those  Fluxbox and suchNov 13 18:22
sebsebsebWireWulf: and many people in the Linux community,  aren't keen on Unity at the moment, even though many of them won't have actsauly tried it, and won't be keen  when Unity Compiz final comes out either, even though again many won't have tried itNov 13 18:23
WireWulfwell enlightenment was projected to make wavesNov 13 18:25
WireWulfwhat linux distros support it reallyNov 13 18:25
sebsebsebto make waves?Nov 13 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LIstening to Nectarine Scene Radio - http://www.scenemusic.net/demovibes/ ...Its Outrun at moment!Nov 13 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome - Nectarine Demoscene Radio .::. Size~: 47.72 KBNov 13 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Kinect Contest: $2000 in prizes http://ur.ly/uulW " make it easy to write programs that use the Kinect on Linux."Nov 13 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] 57,000 people wasted their timeNov 13 18:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Kinect Contest: $2000 in prizes .::. Size~: 66 KBNov 13 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb @glynmoody I guess #IAmBrianAndSoIsMyWife was kinda longNov 13 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] world needs a new algorithmNov 13 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IMHO, special days should not be dedicated to people but to causes/movements/events. For example, Martin Luther takes lots of credit 4 groupNov 13 18:29
*MinceR is listening to: machinae supremacy - http://Remix.Kwed.Org - Sidology 2 TrinityNov 13 18:30
*sebsebseb is listening to http://www.sr.se P3 Rockstar web radio :)Nov 13 18:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sveriges Radio - lokala och rikstäckande radiokanaler .::. Size~: 130.32 KBNov 13 18:31
schestowitzMinceR is out of this planetNov 13 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People like to personify companies, products, achievements. People are made to envision people in everything (e.g. sky daddy).Nov 13 18:31
MinceRwhat makes you think so?Nov 13 18:31
sebsebsebok its  Rockster not RockstarNov 13 18:32
sebsebsebalso that station is awesome :)Nov 13 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police - http://bit.ly/ddeIlP despite fact P2P has many legitimate uses #p2pNov 13 18:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 114.24 KBNov 13 18:33
sebsebsebso much beter than well actsaul radio, since the amount of rubibsh talk  real radio hasNov 13 18:33
MinceR:>Nov 13 18:33
sebsebsebMinceR: uhmm?Nov 13 18:33
MinceRi'm more bothered by the repetitive or crap music real radio hasNov 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The war on sharing relies on some people breaking some law so that the entire habit of sharing -- be it perfectly legitimate or not -- diesNov 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint 10 "Julia" Has Been Released http://bit.ly/9RIJ9lNov 13 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] There will be another recording of !TechBytes tonight...if you have anything you want to ask,email bytes4free@googlemail.com before 20:30 UKNov 13 18:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 "Julia" Has Been Released ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.28 KBNov 13 18:34
sebsebseboh a new Mint versionNov 13 18:36
sebsebsebbased on 10.10 then I guessNov 13 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz RT @glynmoody University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police - http://bit.ly/ddeIlP despite fact P2P has many l ...Nov 13 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mrspuck: I knew it ... Powerpoint is directly from hell ... http://is.gd/gYc9SNov 13 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes There will be another recording of !TechBytes tonight...if you have anything you want to ask,email bytes4free@googlemail.c ...Nov 13 18:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 114.25 KBNov 13 18:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Joy of Tech comic... Geek, we hope this isn't your life. .::. Size~: 24.82 KBNov 13 18:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/3510658763071490Nov 13 18:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: @schestowitz tesla built c ... .::. Size~: 12.92 KBNov 13 18:38
schestowitz"tesla built computers?"Nov 13 18:39
schestowitz:-xNov 13 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody no, I meant in general. See subsequent dents of mine for clarification.Nov 13 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] FOR SALE - 1 slightly used Ponzi scheme, real bargain to the right scammer http://bbc.in/aIv6ucNov 13 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Bernard Madoff's belongings up for auction .::. Size~: 52.43 KBNov 13 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Rebooting system in a few minutes.......Nov 13 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz RT @glynmoody University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police - http://bit.ly/ddeIlP despite fact P2P has many l ...Nov 13 18:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 114.61 KBNov 13 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] in these paranoid times, designer tinfoil hats could be a wining new product line ;)Nov 13 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Ducking hellNov 13 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @johnsu01 "My rule is, if I can't share it with you, I won't take it." --RMSNov 13 18:44
_GoblinRight...Nov 13 18:47
_GoblinrebootingNov 13 18:47
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schestowitz"try http://prezi.com/ simple easy powerful, no i don't own a piece or know someone who does." https://twitter.com/ernieyacub/status/3517504131436544Nov 13 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Prezi - The Zooming Presentation Editor .::. Size~: 9.08 KBNov 13 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / ernie yacub: @schestowitz @mrspuck try  ... .::. Size~: 13.19 KBNov 13 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linaro group advances !Linux on ARM with 10.11 release http://ur.ly/ujGANov 13 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to a friend's birthday bash....Nov 13 18:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linaro group advances Linux on ARM with 10.11 release .::. Size~: 30.66 KBNov 13 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @themadhatteron re Monsanto VALGEN policy brief based on recent research: ...Canadian farmers who infringe patents? http://bit.ly/ddXpFvNov 13 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Monsanto gives a bad name to biology. #patents #monopoly #gmo #crimeNov 13 18:58
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sebsebsebschestowitz: univeristy anti piracy stuff hmmNov 13 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Saving seeds for next year is just good farming and part of the historical practice of farming. Not a #Monsanto or #GMO fan.Nov 13 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody The new Borg - http://bit.ly/9Jnkqy interesting point about #Google hiring *academics* > approached me numerous timesNov 13 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 yes, indeedNov 13 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open IT Strategies: The new Borg .::. Size~: 75.81 KBNov 13 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Now I am utterly depressedNov 13 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz Monsanto is a beast man.Nov 13 19:04
schestowitzRT @mohanpram System76 to begin shipping to the UK ‘end of this month’ http://ur1.ca/2bzm1 > means they are doing well with !GNU ☛ !Linux ☛Nov 13 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: System76 to begin shipping to the UK end of this month .::. Size~: 41.61 KBNov 13 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana "Is free software actually more expensive? Sometimes" #Alfresco argues for #Open_Core model http://ur1.ca/2bzwu #shame #turncoatNov 13 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] At least #Parks scored all the points for Scotland, even though there were only 3Nov 13 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] New Facebook privacy tip: 'Super-logoff' - CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/11/12/facebook.superlogoff/index.html?hpt=T2Nov 13 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @seeds "machine men with machine hearts" http://ur.ly/uIoXNov 13 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is free software actually more expensive? Sometimes .::. Size~: 39.32 KBNov 13 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] watching http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/watchlive/ at the SQ lounge in Heathrow. I wonder if it will work outside the UK. #fbNov 13 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Values have no price. #Alfresco goes proprietary for money reasons. http://ur.ly/uDcbNov 13 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is free software actually more expensive? Sometimes .::. Size~: 39.32 KBNov 13 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Sad that Gorecki dead, but more surprising is that Panderecki still with us :)Nov 13 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #opennms #redhat and others prove that there's no need for proprietary slant to make moneyNov 13 19:14
schestowitzRT @agentsmith How to Save Money by Replacing Microsoft SharePoint with WordPress http://bit.ly/bjCQaO > WordPress also purely Free softwareNov 13 19:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to Save Money by Replacing Microsoft SharePoint with WordPress | CTO Edge .::. Size~: 29.78 KBNov 13 19:16
schestowitzInterestingly, @mjasay (now #Canonical ☛ COO) was promoting his employer's move that made them proprietary before moving to !Ubuntu ☛Nov 13 19:16
schestowitzNov 13 19:16
schestowitzschestowitz - 4 mins ago - ChoqokNov 13 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz hmm. scaryNov 13 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith How to Save Money by Replacing Microsoft SharePoint with WordPress http://bit.ly/bjCQaO > WordPress also purely Free softwareNov 13 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] watching Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" - http://ur1.ca/2ajqe #fbNov 13 19:18
schestowitzCuban Literacy Method Extolled in Central AmericaNov 13 19:18
schestowitz"Salvadoran Education Minister, Salvador Sanchez, said he was confident in the success of an ongoing national literacy campaign, which is based on the “Yes, I can” Cuban learning method. "Nov 13 19:18
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schestowitzhttp://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_61629.shtmlNov 13 19:18
schestowitzTheir healthcare system beats the USNov 13 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] From bomb maker wannabe to e-bike revolutionary - CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/12/electric.bike.hackers/index.html?hpt=SbinNov 13 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera Corporate news management. http://ur1.ca/2c06q #pr #AstroTurf #fakenewsNov 13 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From bomb maker wannabe to e-bike revolutionary - CNN.com .::. Size~: 67.88 KBNov 13 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  NGOs and BBC targeted by Shell PR machine in wake of Saro-Wiwa death | Business | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 200.6 KBNov 13 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @zotz #Open_Core is great cause it still allows vendor lockin & it gives lower quality code to the enterprise which they deserve. ~;-)Nov 13 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] An utterly embarrassing performance from Scotland, an utter disgraceNov 13 19:28
schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera I hoping to take ownership of the remastering and fx editing over the weekend....Nov 13 19:33
schestowitz_Goblin: wanna edit today's?Nov 13 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz don't even suggest it...Nov 13 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @webmink indeed, although this sounds particularly egregiousNov 13 19:33
schestowitzCodePope: "@schestowitz Whats the difference between Alfresco's model and Red Hat's model then that makes one proprietary and the other not?"Nov 13 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @CodePope I can get CentOS/other clones for RHEL. Can I get something similar for #Alfresco ?Nov 13 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @thistleweb oh dear, just as well I only just saw thatNov 13 19:36
_Goblinschestowitz: I can but it may not get released tonight....I think the only real issue now is a hardware one (mic)...its up to you.Nov 13 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @harishpillay #Fedora Scholarship Program to Proliferate #OpenSource Technology http://ur1.ca/2c0re > I don't link linking to this siteNov 13 19:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora Scholarship Program to Proliferate Open Source Technology .::. Size~: 69.26 KBNov 13 19:38
_Goblin"its up to you" - as in, whether I edit or you do.Nov 13 19:38
schestowitzI knowNov 13 19:38
_Goblin:)Nov 13 19:38
schestowitzwth?Nov 13 19:41
schestowitz-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @jezra KUUUUUHHHN! http://ur1.ca/2c1bfNov 13 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/jezra-20101112T201118-k84mxk9.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.64 KBNov 13 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana ... dual-license/ #Open_Core companies prohibit proprietary licensees from supporting FLOSS forks http://ur1.ca/2c1deNov 13 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz now you can buy one :DNov 13 19:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Forking doesn't work [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.91 KBNov 13 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody noNov 13 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram if I need anotherNov 13 19:44
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/57991752#notice-58538921 "they don't want research. They want troops (docs/admin/proprietary code). Google is not "open"."Nov 13 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @schestowitz thanks...be interesting to know, though...Nov 13 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @silner !LibreOffice: the number of developers has risen to over 90, which is far more than !OpenOffice had http://ping.fm/MZtOrNov 13 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice: First Goals after Forking | lex naturalis - txwikinger's blog .::. Size~: 26.54 KBNov 13 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Did !Ubuntu disrespect #Fedora !Linux with openrespect? http://ur.ly/uyMh via @silnerNov 13 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz RT @silner !LibreOffice: the number of developers has risen to over 90, which is far more than !OpenOffice had http://pi ...Nov 13 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz yeah I know what you mean, I don't have use for another PC, if I did it would be @system76Nov 13 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Did Ubuntu disrespect Fedora Linux with openrespect? - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 132.52 KBNov 13 19:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/3533324983209984 "That's the Comm Edition which is where features appear first in Alfresco; CE is not a different beast unlike RH's Fedora"Nov 13 19:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/3533993098084352Nov 13 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #linux I'm actually quite curious now. Which Linux distros do include SQLNinja in their repos?Nov 13 19:54
schestowitz"Oh and note RH don't ship a free to use binary edition. They place an engineering barrier to cloners by releasing source only."Nov 13 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope true enoughNov 13 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gnufreex #Alfresco is in process of removing LGPL licensed JBoss stuff from their product, only because they can't make it proprietary.Nov 13 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Wow. Does it really take all this Java to read char encoding in an XML doc? http://is.gd/h0yxSNov 13 19:59
gnufreexschestowitz: That dude is spinning, Alfresco doesn't give any sources with their Enterprise Edition. It is proprietary software.Nov 13 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bkuhn abandoning *all* proprietary relicensing business? That's good news, frankly, in sense it shows business model isn't worth it.Nov 13 20:01
schestowitzTell himNov 13 20:01
schestowitzhe's on identica tooNov 13 20:01
gnufreexIs he a mobbyist? If he is then I don't talk with him :>Nov 13 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 133 dents!Nov 13 20:03
schestowitzgnufreex: noNov 13 20:04
schestowitzHe's niceNov 13 20:04
schestowitzand pro FOSSNov 13 20:04
schestowitzEngage with him, he's editor of The HNov 13 20:05
gnufreexAh, ok.Nov 13 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Date Night has like every Hollywood celebrity .Nov 13 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally caught up with !techrights IRC logs for whole week, will start recording !techbytes soon (half an hour)Nov 13 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb you could ask him about Scotland's gameNov 13 20:09
gnufreexI responded via Twitter.Nov 13 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] !identica is being spammed by remote statusnet installationsNov 13 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'd imagine #SQLNinja to find its way into rpmfusionNov 13 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @speeddefrost they're learning. To the spam removal devices!Nov 13 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 That's not important!Nov 13 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb it is to over 3 peopleNov 13 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Heh Heh I guessNov 13 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #alsa crashes on my !debian squeeze box everyday. what gives?Nov 13 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #Juve vs #Roma in a classic. 1-1 #SeriANov 13 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@nitrofurano #gdb might :-X #galeonNov 13 21:03
WireWulfpNov 13 21:05
sebsebsebsdtuiweryioweyrpweoiryweiouryNov 13 21:05
sebsebsebWireWulf: ^Nov 13 21:06
WireWulfI am having fun trollingNov 13 21:06
WireWulf^ sebsebsebNov 13 21:06
sebsebsebWireWulf: Who me or you? :DNov 13 21:07
MinceRfgsfdsNov 13 21:07
sebsebsebMinceR: wrwqerdsferNov 13 21:08
MinceRsebsebseb: qwetosifdjowijeNov 13 21:08
sebsebsebMinceR: qwerasfsadfasdfsadfsafsdNov 13 21:08
MinceRsebsebseb: http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/2/2c/Fgsfds1.jpgNov 13 21:09
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sebsebsebMinceR: without just going on the link, whats that?Nov 13 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] new blog post "seeds of a madness flower" from http://blog.catharcyst.com/2010/11/left-to-my-own-devices-this-weekend.htmlNov 13 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: seeds of a madness flower .::. Size~: 127.71 KBNov 13 21:09
MinceRsebsebseb: an image of Wilf Blitzer with a subtitle that says "fgsfds"Nov 13 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 13/11/2010: New !Linux - #Kinect Bounty, GNOME3 PPA, Jolibook, #Wine 1.3.7, #Linaro 10.11 http://ur.ly/uy05Nov 13 21:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 13/11/2010: New Linux-Kinect Bounty, GNOME3 PPA, Jolibook, Wine 1.3.7, Linaro 10.11 | Techrights .::. Size~: 185.43 KBNov 13 21:11
sebsebsebMinceR: I don't know who that is, but it looks ok I guessNov 13 21:11
schestowitzgnufreex: "half the memory, 20% faster... and its prep for Apache/BSD style licences" https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/3537298478075904Nov 13 21:16
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schestowitz[21:09] <MinceR> sebsebseb: http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/2/2c/Fgsfds1.jpgNov 13 21:17
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schestowitz*LOL*Nov 13 21:17
schestowitzIn a weird wayNov 13 21:17
schestowitzbblNov 13 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: RD @glynmoody: In the Grip of the New Monopolists - http://on.wsj.com/arruTg "setores são controlados por UMA empresa dominante"Nov 13 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In the Grip of the Internet Monopolists - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 172.72 KBNov 13 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "autoverse: a life automaton » the Dead Drops project" from http://autoverse.net/2010/11/11/the-dead-drops-project/Nov 13 21:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: autoverse: a life automaton   » the Dead Drops project .::. Size~: 64.95 KBNov 13 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Note to self: http://guide.conecta.it/index.php/Main_Page #fbNov 13 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Spanish Buzz Lightyear - El Buzzo #genius rofl !ToyStory 3Nov 13 21:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] @osamak any android phone canzona !playogg by default. Even using !replicant you canNov 13 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] You know, I like elitist bollocks and I like prolier than thou, but which is better? There's only one way to find out!Nov 13 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #barca vs villareal 1-1 #laligaNov 13 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] in editing mode #shortfictionNov 13 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #messi scores a beauty #barca #laligaNov 13 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !feature !spam is there yet any way to flag/block off identica spammers like @osnumakrh ?Nov 13 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #messi again. damn. hitting them hard. #barca 3Nov 13 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Backdoors hosted in hardware (impervious to OS reinstalls) http://blog.ksplice.com/2010/10/hosting-backdoors-in-hardware/Nov 13 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Even The Atlantic admits the TSA is security theatre http://ur1.ca/2cbdgNov 13 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Things He Carried - Magazine - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 77.49 KBNov 13 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] awesome, I get federated spam now! ‘spammer @handle’ could push report to external service, weight a blacklist. Open to abuse though :/Nov 13 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ha, M$ not happy with kinect open source drives. Oh, SCREW Micro$oft, bunch of greedy vultures http://ur1.ca/2brtcNov 13 23:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft not amused by open source Kinect drivers .::. Size~: 29.49 KBNov 13 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @playingwithsid @kingslyj I am not associated with FSF IndiaNov 13 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I'm not sure why one would bother launching a new community initiative if one has no time available to work w/ a community: ur1.ca/2c4kvNov 13 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @dhkerby Thank you for posting my article about WikiLeaks. You might also be interested in http://tinyurl.com/ybxmhw4. Thoughts?Nov 13 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Google: Android doesn't infringe Oracle's copyrights http://ur1.ca/2cbk5 (via @arstechnica) #android #google #oracleNov 13 23:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @dhkerby I'm promoting my latest book, A Year in Paris and an Ordeal in Bangkok, http://ur.ly/uDcwNov 13 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: A Year in Paris and an Ordeal in Bangkok: Collected Poems and Political Essays (9781453852071): D. H. Kerby: Books: Reviews, Prices & more .::. Size~: 245.57 KBNov 13 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Lenovo LePad headed to US in 2011 http://ur1.ca/2cbo9 #android #tabletNov 13 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Confirmed: Lenovo LePad headed to US in 2011 -- Engadget .::. Size~: 60.89 KBNov 13 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dhkerby I have begun reading your intriguing report. My first though was, the BBC covered related material in http://ur.ly/unR1Nov 13 23:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » One of My Favourite Documentaries: BBC Dissecting the True Evils of PR .::. Size~: 32.55 KBNov 13 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dhkerby re nuclear testing, see APF's last year's reports on *admission* that humans were knowingly exposed to lethal levels of radiationNov 13 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @dailymetech: Saudi Arabia blocks Facebook over moral concerns http://bit.ly/avTbJF !dailymeNov 13 23:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Saudi Arabia blocks Facebook over moral concerns .::. Size~: 44.25 KBNov 13 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dhkerby as I recall it, mind control (programming) was done by the Soviets and the CIA overestimated the threat, then imitated (~Cold War)Nov 13 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @evan To my friends everywhere: data portability and federated social networks matter. End of line.Nov 13 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @johnsu01 "My rule is, if I can't share it with you, I won't take it." --RMSNov 13 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Would have nuked @eswinraskbs arse but they already got kicked off the site..... Fuckers!Nov 13 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @schestowitz: RT @dhkerby I'm promoting my latest book, A Year in Paris and an Ordeal in Bangkok, http://ur.ly/uDcwNov 13 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fucking spammers! Nuke them till they glow and then shoot them in the dark!Nov 13 23:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: A Year in Paris and an Ordeal in Bangkok: Collected Poems and Political Essays (9781453852071): D. H. Kerby: Books: Reviews, Prices & more .::. Size~: 256.11 KBNov 13 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dhkerby the experiment you spoke about mentally messed up many subjects, physically hurt troops used in nuclear experiments.Documented factNov 13 23:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rarrrr..... Bed. Drunk. Rehearsals in the morning. Pissed orrf. Garrrr!Nov 13 23:59

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