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schestowitzhttp://sites.google.com/site/sxswtorrent/Nov 14 00:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Fucking spammers! Nuke them till they glow and then shoot them in the dark! (via @fabsh)Nov 14 00:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @psquid @robmyers It's time for Blatant GPL Violator of the Week! Blatant GPL Violator of the Weeeeek~Nov 14 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Music downloads: "There are 1038 files totaling 5.43GB." Perfectly legal, getting them now. http://ur.ly/ut3yNov 14 00:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dhkerby/@dhkerby] @seeds Thank you for reposting the Amazon link for my book!Nov 14 00:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 6: #KINect a Cheapo Gadget, F#edora and Fusion 14 in Review http://ur.ly/uBnH http://ur.ly/uzyCNov 14 00:38
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schestowitzhttp://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-5-%E2%80%93-121110/Nov 14 00:39
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schestowitz"Nov 14 00:39
schestowitzEnjoyed the audiocast, but could not download it all. The first part being on WP7, so a comment is in order here.Nov 14 00:39
schestowitzWhy Windows Phone Seven is a disaster.Nov 14 00:39
schestowitzAs much as Microsoft and its supporters love to say that WP7 is a new completely built from the ground up phone OS, its not. While Microsoft would love to distance itself from the Windows Mobile 6.5 disaster, it cannot. WP7 it fact uses the kernel from Windows Mobile and CE, it is only slightly reworked. Also it uses software that has been slightly reworked from other form factors like the Zune and Silverlight. The only thing reallyNov 14 00:39
schestowitznew in WP7 is the tile user interface. But there is a lot of stuff missing or having problems:Nov 14 00:39
schestowitz"Nov 14 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Hey, slow down a little. I'm still on epi 4. ;-DNov 14 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith today's episode was short :-)Nov 14 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] backing up essentials to #dropboxNov 14 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dhkerby @DavidKerby the BBC documentary (3-4 hours) contains the details. IIRC, done in California.Nov 14 00:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dhkerby @DavidKerby typo of AFP. See http://ur.ly/uKtrNov 14 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right, just getting the !techbytes audiocast uploaded and posted, then off to bed.Techrights has already posted: http://tinyurl.com/3xrwjzaNov 14 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 6: KINect a Cheapo Gadget, Sharing Perceptually Criminalised, Fedora and Fusion 14 in Review | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.19 KBNov 14 00:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] I get confused between faif and foaf.Nov 14 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I wish I had looked for the Class 47 instead of wasting my time watching NZNov 14 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "By golly, I'm beginning to think Linux really *is* the best thing since sliced bread." --Vance Petree, Virginia PowerNov 14 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Only #Quidditch scene that's good in #Harry_Potter movies is the one in PoA. Seeing GoB one right after it makes that even more clear.Nov 14 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @dhkerby cool. good luck. i got a book of poems on their too.Nov 14 00:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @schestowitz RT @gnufreex #Alfresco is in process of removing LGPL licensed JBoss stuff from their product, only because they can't m ...Nov 14 00:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I say.... Just watched an episode of Jeeves & Wooster. Now off to bed. Very good, sah.... :)Nov 14 00:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @speeddefrost I didn't get that far in reading their statuses. Thought they were an unofficial news source. Wouldn't put it past Canonical!Nov 14 01:03
gnufreexschestowitz: Onion attacks google again... on his blog.Nov 14 01:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @speeddefrost Must've read "facetious" as "factuous" :PNov 14 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 6 – 13/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/2u4ax7oNov 14 01:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Believe it or not, never heard a studio cut of Ike & Tina "Proud Mary" until today, just live. Kicks you in the gut like an angry mule.Nov 14 01:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost same here manNov 14 01:31
amarsh04back later, restarting xorgNov 14 01:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] GLib.timeout_add has foxed meNov 14 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] My laptop is probably bio-degradable... the d*mn thing is falling apart !Nov 14 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Option 1: coffee and work; option 2: milk and mythbusters…Nov 14 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] backing up a gazillion photosNov 14 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @schestowitz - good show but I tend to avoid Fusion because it includes #mono http://ur1.ca/2ccrrNov 14 02:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Was Jlistening to the latest !lo, but now I'm at my old college for a cultural show. Should be good.Nov 14 02:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] One good thing about the TSA's nudescan machines: all the creepy janitors are quitting the schools and applying at airports.Nov 14 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] RT @dailymetech: Facebook may become the biggest e-mail service http://bit.ly/a0KD5b !dailymeNov 14 02:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Had a blast playing the Nicci D tribute last night, great cause and great bands, next up Fat Cat in Modesto on Sat! #severedfifthNov 14 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty URGENT: The Senate is passing a bill to censor the Internet. And nobody's spoken out against it yet! Can you help? http: ...Nov 14 02:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome summary of Unity usability testing done by Charline from the design team: http://is.gd/h13n9 #ubuntu #unityNov 14 03:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Soon on my way to the airport, flying to Dublin for #MeeGoConfNov 14 03:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @rfamovie RT @LisaShapter Happy birthday Robert Louis #Stevenson - you wrote a shelf full of !books, too few are now remembered !readNov 14 03:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] With @x11r6, who needs #DavidCamertronNov 14 03:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Science Story | Tide of International Science Moving Against US, EU http://ur1.ca/2cd4oNov 14 03:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | Which Language To Learn? http://ask.slashdot.org/story/10/11/13/1742253/Which-Language-To-Learn?from=rssNov 14 03:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] DesktopLinux.com's coverage of Fedora 14 release: http://ur1.ca/2cd4jNov 14 03:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] In the Grip of the Internet Monopolists - WSJ.com http://ur1.ca/2cd5oNov 14 03:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Researchers take down Koobface servers http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/111310-researchers-take-down-koobface.htmlNov 14 03:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Fixing broken packages in Debian systems | commandlinefu.com http://ur1.ca/2cd84Nov 14 03:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Cloack an IP range from some IPs via iptables | commandlinefu.com http://ur1.ca/2cd8pNov 14 03:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I wonder if I can say exactly the right things to both @x11r5 and @x11r6 so they end up constantly replying to each otherNov 14 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] OpenRespect gets more press: Carla: http://is.gd/h15CR Bruce B: http://is.gd/h15C5 Sean: http://is.gd/h15E3 #openrespectNov 14 03:43
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:     Did Ubuntu disrespect Fedora Linux with openrespect? - InternetNews:The Blog - Sean Michael Kerner .::. Size~: 136.02 KBNov 14 03:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] openbox - wooden desktop | Flickr - Photo Sharing! http://www.flickr.com/photos/36706201@N05/4671603312/Nov 14 03:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] we take too many photos. my backup takes a pause. I need an external drive.Nov 14 04:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] This is why forking GNOME API is a bad idea - http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/142444Nov 14 04:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hurrah !!! running !gnome shell on !ubuntu !maverick after compiling and building it by following this guide: http://ur1.ca/2cdlyNov 14 04:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Mozilla Drumbeat, "learning by doing", @hastac, and a Creative Commons reading list http://bit.ly/ccrslI #OERNov 14 04:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening to I remember Clifford by #ArturoSandoval. This song gives me chills.Nov 14 04:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc1-git11 has been released - http://is.gd/eq2yj #linux #kernelNov 14 04:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo SDK 1.1 Beta http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.1/meego-v1.1-sdkNov 14 04:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Gamer makes a cool half-million by selling virtual property - Video Games Blog Plugged In - Yahoo! Games" from http://ur1.ca/2cdoeNov 14 04:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] face @reality! @jezra is right: choose the language that suits the client/realizes the goal, not because you know it (like most proggers do)Nov 14 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 Hey Brandon, need your help...Nov 14 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] made my first #deb but it won't run. more tweaking. #debianNov 14 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ender2070 How do I translate a Fedora package to PClinuxOS package ?Nov 14 05:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo at least targets diff. platforms for devel: http://is.gd/h1eY7 unlike !Linaro *sighs*Nov 14 05:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Like the idea of Tablet of Adventure http://is.gd/h1fUD Might be an idea to integrate this with my #spotsnel projectNov 14 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ender2070 I never got around to trying itNov 14 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] What bugged me about yesterday's shoddy performance was the "celebrations" after 2-2. "OYE !!! we are supposed to win, get back there" !mufcNov 14 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Man at San Diego airport opts out of porno scanner and grope, told he'll be fined $10K unless he submits to fondling http://ur1.ca/2cd5nNov 14 06:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Backfires from broken-down van draw bullets from KC police http://ur1.ca/2ceae #policestateNov 14 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] It isn't true. #Facebook is not blocked in Saudi Arabia. #stupidcensorship !eff http://ur1.ca/2ceagNov 14 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New Blog post: Placing Good Books at Risk http://ur1.ca/2ce5w #censorship #Twitter #AmazonNov 14 06:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Placing Good Books at Risk «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 42.04 KBNov 14 06:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @bccla: Canada's C-32 threatens freedom of expression by protecting digital locks. Here's why it matters http://bit.ly/mRXt8Nov 14 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @MarietjeD66: My speech today in European Parliament on EU-US relations on #ACTA #WikiLeaks #Iran #humanrights http://ow.ly/37FyINov 14 06:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Back from cultural show, it was wonderful, time to make some hot chocolate and hit the bed!Nov 14 07:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] It seems that they banned it yesterday for a few hours and then unbanned it. #stupidcensorshipNov 14 07:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] "as yet is still in an inchoate state of creation" -- fourpeat? quadundancy?Nov 14 08:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @ijeyanthan Thanks for suggestion http://bit.ly/aYFjvENov 14 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Anybody know how to install mesa drivers on !fedora? It seems to have worked on Fedora 12 http://ur1.ca/2cewcNov 14 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gerry Adams wishes to stand for seat in Dail.Nov 14 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I will accept ANY ati driver, free, non-free that will give me 3D acceleration on !fedora 14. Anybody got a link to a guide?Nov 14 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera I read that first as Dehli and thought that's a bit of a change from NI lolNov 14 08:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @speeddefrost Lol! :)Nov 14 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Things have changed a lot but not that much :)Nov 14 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Top 100 funniest irc chats http://www.bash.org/?top !linux #irc !comedianNov 14 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, i'm off to test !fedora install number 3 :) No ati prop driver this time. I WILL succeed, then i'll write a fucking howto guide.Nov 14 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Strudel Considered Harmful: Strudel Considered Harmful, originally uploaded by webmink. Just leaving Bolzano ... http://bit.ly/a3qlXENov 14 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Beware of Fake Abundance - http://bit.ly/aWNwrX digital abundance is not analogue abundance - but nobody really said it was... #commonsNov 14 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, mount !fedora in !crunchbang, delete ati dirs, reboot, alt+f2 at startup, mv xorg-old to xorg.conf. Now have Fedora desktop Yay! :)Nov 14 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost I didn't realize you were still in highschool, I figured you were, like, old... D:Nov 14 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh !fedora 14 still uses xorg.conf? Cutting edge, right there! :) Anyhoo, off to try and install FREE driver modules ;)Nov 14 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @richslxh No, it doesn't.Nov 14 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Help us celebrating LibreOffice 3.3 when it's out - organize a local release party! http://ur1.ca/2cfd4 !libo !tdfNov 14 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost Nope. btw, #university is awesome. @chani went to a pair of schools in BC, should talk to her aboot what to do.Nov 14 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @rrix Excuse me, just had to cd to X11 and mv xorg-old to xorg.conf to get to a desktop. In any case, xorg or not, no Ati driver #failNov 14 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !fedora bug report: Downloading 8/42 *debuginfo packages *sigh* this gets betterNov 14 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just sent a bug report to amd regarding 10.10 Catalyst driver on !fedora 14 http://www.amdsurveys.com/Nov 14 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Question: If !fedora is so cutting edge, and looks down on !ubuntu, why is it they are going for wayland first, and nvidia and ati works?Nov 14 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I find it disgusting that Wayland has been around for years, and #shuttlecock decides to use it, and now everyone is suddenly #ZOMGWAYLAND!!Nov 14 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost why notNov 14 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] this drunk bastard needs to go to bed.Nov 14 10:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @richslxh Top 100 funniest irc chats http://www.bash.org/?top !linux #irc !comedianNov 14 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Nice :) !fedora, bugreport has a bug. http://ur1.ca/2cfnxNov 14 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] reading up on #kant and a few other madmen for a term paperNov 14 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Ame...... Ubuntu :PNov 14 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @azzorcist I agree to Caitlyn Martin that you still can learn !Linux even if you use *easy-to-use* distro.Nov 14 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #406373 +(10707)- [X] <[TN]FBMachine> i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction secNov 14 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apparently there's new range of malware that attacks specific processors rather than the operating system http://goo.gl/PH0JZNov 14 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @ludost: Somehow the war on terror has become the war on people who refuse to be terrorised. #qtdNov 14 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost my new install is broken.Nov 14 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #pydentica got borked on reinstall. trying againNov 14 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] now it works again. hmm. #sabayon must be tripping.Nov 14 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] This calls for a celebration: http://stanford.edu/~pgbovine/cde.html And no it isn't about package management.Nov 14 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost k. let me download it again.Nov 14 11:38
MinceRCommon Desktop Environment :>Nov 14 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] seems like it took until 2010 until I discover the #somafm 'suburbs of goa' webradio feed.Nov 14 11:43
oiaohmMinceR: really that will come more into own as cgroups become used.Nov 14 11:45
oiaohmAnd its not Common Desktop Enviroment.  ITs another CDENov 14 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So Oracle seems to be resorting to dirty tricks in it's fight with Google's Dalvik now? http://goo.gl/OXZv3Nov 14 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #godbless #bittorrent.Nov 14 11:46
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MinceRoiaohm: i know but it seems that it was named ambiguously :>Nov 14 11:48
MinceRoiaohm: also, how well is Qt on Android (iirc you mentioned it yesterday) working?Nov 14 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost how do I test the context feature?Nov 14 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @laforge seems like it took until 2010 until I discover the #somafm 'suburbs of goa' webradio feed.Nov 14 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Big day tomorrow, er, today. Let's Make Awesome Happen.Nov 14 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] are all philosphers unhinged?Nov 14 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] "A little bird told me"... very nice take on French news by Prete Moi Paris: http://ur1.ca/2cg4p #FranceNov 14 12:14
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*ziggyfish is away: I'm busyNov 14 12:15
oiaohmMinceR: quite well.  It is using native code part of android and the opengl support to pull of screen output.Nov 14 12:15
oiaohmAnd android comment that you would have to use there screen interace.Nov 14 12:16
oiaohmYes QT does just to create a opengl window the size of screen.Nov 14 12:16
MinceRicNov 14 12:17
MinceRthe thread i've found on it says they had to modify the NDK to make it work, thoughNov 14 12:18
oiaohmNot much really.Nov 14 12:18
oiaohmMostly to cope with androids broken libc support.Nov 14 12:19
MinceRbut until android is fixed, it's going to make installation problematicNov 14 12:19
oiaohmNot really.Nov 14 12:19
MinceRusers would have to jailbreak their phones to install it, wouldn't they?Nov 14 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] hmms, just noticed my !heybuddy hasn't shown any new messages since last night, restarting from terminal gives xml.parsers.expat.ExpatErrorNov 14 12:19
MinceRand the android devs' response seemed to be rather unfriendlyNov 14 12:20
oiaohmAgain no.  If its signed.Nov 14 12:20
MinceRwho can sign it?Nov 14 12:20
oiaohmandroid devels don't like the QT path.Nov 14 12:20
oiaohmSince it goes straight away from bytecode.Nov 14 12:20
MinceRyeah, if it isn't java, they hate itNov 14 12:20
MinceRalso, does android support dynamic linking properly? they seemed to have problems.Nov 14 12:20
oiaohmThat is missing functions.Nov 14 12:21
oiaohmWorst comes to worse QT releases pack of functions.Nov 14 12:21
oiaohmNote the altered NDK with QT still produces binarys that will run on stock android no issues.Nov 14 12:22
oiaohmIts mostly just function hacks.Nov 14 12:22
MinceRand how big those binaries will be?Nov 14 12:23
oiaohmThat is the catch bigger than general android apps.Nov 14 12:23
oiaohmAt this stage unless shared is fully worked out.Nov 14 12:23
MinceRbecause dynamic linking is brokenNov 14 12:23
oiaohmReally it will be fixable.Nov 14 12:24
oiaohmAndroid java has package dependances.Nov 14 12:24
oiaohmBut what upset the android guys is the idea that the QT runtime will make up to 160 megs of storage disappear.Nov 14 12:25
oiaohmDue to it not depending at all on the android provided graphical system.Nov 14 12:25
oiaohmThey really should not made it hard for native code to contect to the graphical interface.Nov 14 12:26
MinceRit seems that what upsets them is that they won't be able to force the users to use the platform they want them toNov 14 12:26
oiaohmThe issues in the QT path are not out side QT means to solve.Nov 14 12:26
MinceRthere was a lot of whining about how it's so difficult to design the system properly to support native code wellNov 14 12:27
MinceRbut guess what, everyone else got it rightNov 14 12:27
MinceRby not forcing this idiotic java-based mess in the first placeNov 14 12:27
MinceRi hope elop won't kill MeeGo phonesNov 14 12:27
MinceRmaybe one day we'll have phones that don't suckNov 14 12:27
MinceRhm, this makes android sound like adobeNov 14 12:29
MinceR"waaaah, it's so difficult"Nov 14 12:29
oiaohmReally nokia cannot attack MeegoNov 14 12:29
oiaohmQT is part of OINNov 14 12:30
oiaohmopps sorry.Nov 14 12:30
oiaohmOrcale cannot attack QTNov 14 12:30
oiaohmRemember android forgets something.  Linux standard base desiged the executable stub on dynamic linker.  MinceRNov 14 12:32
oiaohmThere is no reason QT cannot do this.Nov 14 12:32
oiaohmThing everyone forgets Linux kernel only knows how to load static binaries in the first place.Nov 14 12:32
oiaohmAll dyamic loading is userspace process.Nov 14 12:32
oiaohmYes the bugs android has is nothing more than annoying.  MinceRNov 14 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Cat is mad (literally) about culatello. Can't blame him!Nov 14 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Soo excited for this last F1 grand prix, rooting for Webber this race after Button lost his chance..Nov 14 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Cripes, messy start. Not the best place to park your car, through another #f1Nov 14 13:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] IBM says the future of supercomputing is the size of a sugar cube !green http://ur1.ca/2cgh5Nov 14 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-11-14: Red Hat tries the value argument for open source This is the sort of thing that makes me ... http://bit.ly/bSRTPSNov 14 13:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to our second run-through of #RichardIII.Nov 14 13:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] listening to !TechBytes they're pumping out the eps, the 2hr ep was too long though, hope it's not the norm, I'd rather not unsubscribeNov 14 13:16
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oiaohm?? keyboard hit sebsebseb or typing in white???Nov 14 13:21
ThistleWebit's a lame spaceNov 14 13:21
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ThistleWebyes keep doing that and I ignore your assNov 14 13:21
ThistleWebI'm guessing I wouldn't be the only oneNov 14 13:22
sebsebsebI think you would be actsualleyNov 14 13:22
sebsebsebfrom hereNov 14 13:22
ThistleWebfeel free to test your theoryNov 14 13:23
cubezzztime for a new keyboard?Nov 14 13:23
sebsebsebThistleWeb: no thanksNov 14 13:23
sebsebsebcubezzz: nah this one still works wel enough :DNov 14 13:23
oiaohmLucky not in a channel where I am op.Nov 14 13:23
sebsebseboh there are channels where you are op? such as?Nov 14 13:23
oiaohm24 hours to cool if from being annoying would be quite suitable.Nov 14 13:24
oiaohmFor one where I am currently logged gameblender.Nov 14 13:24
sebsebsebThistleWeb: you got the extra two empty lines by the way, since you called it a lame spaceNov 14 13:24
ThistleWebare you a child?Nov 14 13:25
sebsebsebThistleWeb: Are you a grumpy old man?Nov 14 13:25
oiaohmMind you it has the most ops of most channels.Nov 14 13:25
oiaohmFrom time to time we play quick draw there.Nov 14 13:25
ThistleWebit'd be much easier just to ignore youNov 14 13:25
oiaohmIe first to ban the other op wins.Nov 14 13:25
oiaohmYes as op we can un ban.Nov 14 13:26
sebsebsebThistleWeb: I mess around a litlte bit in here sometimes, such as just then, get over it!Nov 14 13:26
oiaohmYes gameblender and my warped nature mix perfectly.Nov 14 13:26
sebsebsebmaybe ThistleWeb has me on ignore already,  oh well,  I don't actsually care that much if he doesNov 14 13:28
oiaohmHmm teh bot has been silent for a while.Nov 14 13:30
sebsebseboiaohm: maybe identica broke down?Nov 14 13:30
oiaohmIts possible or the bot has locked up.Nov 14 13:30
sebsebsebyep or thatNov 14 13:30
sebsebsebanyway I was about to go to identicaNov 14 13:30
sebsebseboiaohm: identica is still upNov 14 13:32
*oiaohm taps TechrightsBot-tr are you still onNov 14 13:32
sebsebseboiaohm: wrong oneNov 14 13:33
sebsebseboiaohm: you want TRIdenticaNov 14 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] well #pydentica failing me for now.Nov 14 13:33
sebsebseband well there it is ^Nov 14 13:33
sebsebseboiaohm: TechrightsBot-tr is the URL title botNov 14 13:34
oiaohmOk so it got split in two.Nov 14 13:34
sebsebseband TRT is the Twitter bot I thkNov 14 13:34
sebsebsebthinkNov 14 13:34
oiaohmMost likely a good idea.Nov 14 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] hmm the post actually went. a daemon tripping #sabayonNov 14 13:34
oiaohmThe old techright bot would regually lock up due to all kinds of things.Nov 14 13:35
sebsebsebwell not all links that get mentioned in here are done on identica, so yeaNov 14 13:35
sebsebsebyeah even, yea is more slang or whateverNov 14 13:35
sebsebseb,but so is yeah really :DNov 14 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @seeds Yes.Nov 14 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @reality Fedora - Free as in Free (as long as you're not naughty <3)Nov 14 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Hahahahahahaha. Really, fairy tales would be the right section. :-DNov 14 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Three strikes and you're out!!! - http://bit.ly/93acus an Indian perspective #3strikes #indiaNov 14 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Fuduntu Is A Fedora 14 Remix For Netbooks And Laptops http://bit.ly/bseXTqNov 14 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tale of two hosts - http://bit.ly/deY1Uy pointed comparison of Obama's trips to #China and #India #futureNov 14 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[geekybodhi/@geekybodhi] The problem with having literary-inclined people in the family is that when they say you are right, they probably mean grammatically.Nov 14 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/fuduntu-is-fedora-14-remix-for-netbooks.html !fedora #fuduntu #netbook #asus #eeepcNov 14 14:31
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sebsebseboh the bot did pick up on that, I wonder if thats the first message that I deleted, since messing around,  or the re post, probably the re post :)Nov 14 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Awesome project to deliver 3D audio with two speakers http://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/ Watch the video!Nov 14 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SELinux: Friend or Foe? http://ur.ly/ujXS first major problem after one week of use. Still, #Fedora works well and no binary GPU drivers!Nov 14 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Datasets With Segmentation and Tagging (Cardiac and Brain) http://ur.ly/uqsC been a PITA trying to get data. Trying NYU now.Nov 14 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lovenemesis !fedora User Group Meeting in Beijing. Photos: http://cut.gd/j2lBNov 14 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know the point of the "__MACOSX" folders? they're empty, sometimes layers of empty folders #failNov 14 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The curse of giftedness http://ur1.ca/2ch12Nov 14 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff LibreOffice at @FOSDEM - Call for Papers: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2011 !libo !tdfNov 14 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Good race, wd Vettel! Button, Hamilton on podium too. Webber 3rd in drivers'. And props to Petrov.Nov 14 14:53
schestowitzsebsebseb: the bot picks replies only if it's to someone else we syndicate hereNov 14 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cronología de Microsoft Extorsión de Patentes Contra GNU/Linux. http://ur.ly/uxKJ #swpats #es !gnu !linux !microsoftNov 14 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm being punished by the Sun God for not worshipping strong enough, sun is straight in my eyes at the PC desk, curtain time #BASTARDSNov 14 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @carlopiana you weren’t excited waiting for Alonso to try something behind Petrov? … kinda let down because he didn’t, but potential thereNov 14 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Woohoo, Sebastian Vettel is world champion! \o/Nov 14 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @johndrinkwater: not quite. I remember the excitement of Lauda v. Hunt, Pironi-Villeneuve, Villeneuve-Arnoux. This's comp.ly morphineNov 14 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] We Love Nikola Tesla, the real genius behind Thomas Edison.Nov 14 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] man I fell back asleep like a log :)Nov 14 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Tesla is like Wozniak, a real genius in the shadow of a charlatanNov 14 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @richslxh it says itself you need to install a debuginfo package for the backtrance to actually be usefulNov 14 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @johndrinkwater: take no offence, but only accountants on acid trip could find really exciting these races :-( My heart is red, but hell...Nov 14 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @carlopiana none taken, F1 has been decidedly more boring in the Schumacher years, hoped that was behind us…Nov 14 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Starts Treating Vista Phony 7 (WP7) like "KIN" and Ballmer Said to be Possibly Preparing to Elope http://ur.ly/uhmKNov 14 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching On Piece 475 !animeNov 14 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #sampdora vsNov 14 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #sampdoria vs #chievo #serieANov 14 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Tenacious C, an IDE that promises to make the difficult parts of C easy, a beta of which to be released in December: http://tenaciousc.com/Nov 14 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "If I can't trust my government who can I trust?" Big K.R.I.TNov 14 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @arnebab see definition of "GPL Relicensing Permission" here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Revised_Fedora_CLA_DraftNov 14 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The curious case of Duff's Device (the Tenacious C blog): http://bit.ly/bAkLzmNov 14 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Nothing like an accurate headline from the "classy" journos at the #BBC http://bbc.in/98HGco "Super James Blunt stopped World War 3" #failNov 14 15:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think many people view (GNU/) Linux distributions as public utilities. Fascinating.Nov 14 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] JSON-LD - Expressing Linked Data in JSON: http://json-ld.org/Nov 14 15:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] more whistleblowers punished http://bit.ly/bErrf8Nov 14 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] sometimes the search bar at the bottom of the google search results page is non-existent. what gives? #chromiumNov 14 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @ jargon I never get that kind of behavior. Some people thinking that they are entilted. I get that alot in class with them youths. damn!Nov 14 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes got time for recording tonight?Nov 14 15:48
ThistleWebschestowitz: _Goblin it might be an idea to try to set a planned max running time for the recording, and try to end it around that time, the longer the eps, the more chance people will just say "it;s too much time"Nov 14 15:50
ThistleWeb90mins - 2hrs is movie lengthNov 14 15:50
ThistleWebspecially if a new ep arrives every other dayNov 14 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] CC company believes extra security gained by asking DoB then asking age,based on hesitation. I always hesitate;I never recall my current ageNov 14 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, I think this makes no sense & is quite disingenuous. I recall who first suggested to me & I thought it was disingenuous then too.Nov 14 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why the #W3C is losing its way now that it is motored by Microsoft, Apple, and IBM http://ur.ly/uhmLNov 14 15:59
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_GoblinThistleWeb: Hi! Sorry for missing your message...I agree completely!Nov 14 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Latest Penny Arcade mention Minecraft http://ur1.ca/2chknNov 14 16:06
ThistleWebthe odd longer ep is fineNov 14 16:06
ThistleWebbut even 90mins is a hefty daily listenNov 14 16:06
*cubezzz likes 30 mins or lessNov 14 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Busy day: Child1 playing at Remembrance services; Child2 winning gymnastics; Child3 improving swimming; now father-in-law's birthday party..Nov 14 16:08
ThistleWebI gave up on tllts because 2hrs+ was the nornNov 14 16:08
ThistleWebeven try to set it for 1hr, and try to keep more or less to itNov 14 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Last week was a conspiracy against #InboxZero -this week I'm finally going to move to !Emacs / !Gnus 4 all email accountsNov 14 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @threethirty digging the idea of #openrespect but it only works if you believe we *ARE* on the same team. There are #disturbing trend ...Nov 14 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #chelsea vs #sunderland. trying to find a good stream. #EPLNov 14 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “VLC 1.1.5 adds live WebM streaming support, Game Music Emu, Channels.com shows”: http://bit.ly/9YyiZUNov 14 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] New screen protector on my N800, loving it.Nov 14 16:16
_GoblinI do agree....especially if they are more regular....Im sorry, Im off and on the PC so my responses are delayed!Nov 14 16:17
schestowitz_Goblin: ThistleWeb shall we limit to 30 mins?Nov 14 16:17
schestowitz_Goblin: can you do one in 10 minutes?Nov 14 16:17
schestowitzBTW, colleagues like my new Fedora 14 installNov 14 16:18
_GoblinI can do it in about 1hourNov 14 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @mohanpram: “VLC 1.1.5 adds live WebM streaming support, Game Music Emu, Channels.com shows”: http://bit.ly/9YyiZUNov 14 16:18
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schestowitzkwin effects have the promised "Effect"Nov 14 16:18
schestowitz_Goblin: cool!Nov 14 16:18
_Goblinand yes for today I think 30 mins is enough...theres not much more to add since yesterdayNov 14 16:18
schestowitzI have linksNov 14 16:18
ThistleWebschestowitz: well, it's not like you're padding out the content to fill it, so maybe 30mins is optimisticNov 14 16:18
_GoblinI'll leave the content for you...I have two new package releases to mention.....Nov 14 16:19
schestowitzok, nice oneNov 14 16:19
ThistleWebjust saying that many audiocasts get away with a movie length ep when they only release like once per week or once per fortnightNov 14 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @arnebab rereading it, it doesn't look as bad as I'd remembered it being :-)Nov 14 16:23
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/11/fedora_hacker_tool_ban/Nov 14 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora bars SQLNinja hack tool • The Register .::. Size~: 25.82 KBNov 14 16:25
schestowitzThistleWeb: yeah, but people do download themNov 14 16:25
ThistleWebtrueNov 14 16:25
schestowitzlike 370 times off cache in the past 8 hours for exampleNov 14 16:25
schestowitzI don't know how long they lsiten forNov 14 16:25
schestowitzThat's why Tim and I cver main stories firstNov 14 16:26
schestowitzTLLTS does the sameNov 14 16:26
schestowitzThe rambles are at the endNov 14 16:26
schestowitzInterviews and news at startNov 14 16:26
ThistleWebany media is competing against other media for people's time and attentionNov 14 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Jay-Z Signs Jay Electronica To Roc Nation - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV http://ur1.ca/2chooNov 14 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @bkuhn indeed. i do the maths or tell the asker to do it.Nov 14 16:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jay-Z Signs Jay Electronica To Roc Nation - Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV  .::. Size~: 22.23 KBNov 14 16:26
schestowitzThistleWeb: if people stick around and listen for 2 hours, that's good. We just need o get structure rightNov 14 16:27
schestowitznews first, short intro, then discussionsNov 14 16:27
schestowitzand tuneNov 14 16:27
ThistleWebI kinda work on the assumption that people may like several casts, and can easily drop some if they are too much of an investmentNov 14 16:27
ThistleWebbut it's up to you guys, I'm just saying a daily movie length cast is a bit muchNov 14 16:28
ThistleWebfor me anywayNov 14 16:28
ThistleWebeveryone's differentNov 14 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @sagarun Indian "Open standards policy" got finalized [pdf] http://ur1.ca/2by26 !india #ftwNov 14 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] doing another episode of !techbytes shortly, will try to keep it shortNov 14 16:29
schestowitzThistleWeb: true, tim favoured cutting it short by setting limitsNov 14 16:30
ThistleWebeven try recording a movie length show planned in 2 or 3 parts to release each part per dayNov 14 16:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: two hours?Nov 14 16:31
sebsebsebschestowitz: I haven't listended to any of them yetNov 14 16:31
ThistleWebso it's like a 40min daily showNov 14 16:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: two hours is very long for a podcast episode I guessNov 14 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] South African News website covers Fedora 14 release: http://ur1.ca/2cd14Nov 14 16:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 14 goes gold .::. Size~: 37.93 KBNov 14 16:33
ThistleWebit's not just the length, it's hefty content in terms of facts, concepts etc, you can't drift off and relaz to it, ya have to actually listenNov 14 16:33
ThistleWebthecommandline is another cool one that I dropped because of the time and attention it needed to listenNov 14 16:33
schestowitz"/@seeds] RockMelt:"Nov 14 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @seeds #RockMelt is proprietary, just for your info ;-)Nov 14 16:34
*amarsh04 can't imagine listening to talks on how to use the command line without printed/electronic notesNov 14 16:35
schestowitz"RT @sarahw Amazing story of resistance to #TSA intimidation http://bit.ly/aWCOGp (via @drmabuse) // WOW! #MUSTREAD cc @schestowitz #travel"Nov 14 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: <Insert title here>: TSA encounter at SAN .::. Size~: 272.46 KBNov 14 16:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/ghabuntu/status/3771874278383616 "Just wondering, which would u prefer being a dominant force, G or Facebook as a MS proxy. Baffles me a lot. I prefer the G"Nov 14 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 43.11 KBNov 14 16:35
schestowitzNone of the above :-)Nov 14 16:36
sebsebsebamarsh04: yeah seeing commands would be good, not just hearing what commands are, if thats what you meanNov 14 16:36
amarsh04yes sebsebsebNov 14 16:36
amarsh04plus good textbooks have conventions for normal, bold, italic, monospace so that one knows what's a literal, what's a name that the user specifies ...Nov 14 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz k. I don't need it. hahaNov 14 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] time to feed. getting cranky. :)Nov 14 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxdrivers A listing of WLAN devices with information about the chipset and whether or not they are supported [.] http://bit.ly/bsnQgNNov 14 16:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux wireless LAN support   http://linux-wless.passys.nl .::. Size~: 14.76 KBNov 14 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith I can't take credit I posted the nick of the person who did it. Wish I had done it though.Nov 14 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @thenose100: 20 Open Source Movies You Can Edit and Redistribute for Free - Via Soosck http://post.ly/1CJLoNov 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linuxdrivers A listing of WLAN devices with information about the chipset and whether or not they are supported [.] http://bit.ly/bsnQgNNov 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: SIGALRM In C: http://bit.ly/d78nWpNov 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johnsu01 "My rule is, if I can't share it with you, I won't take it." --RMSNov 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @deckondroid: Yesterday Android TweetDeck passed Mac TweetDeck in total number of users. Thanks guys for being awesome!Nov 14 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 Open Source Movies You Can Edit and Redistribute for Free - Via Soosck - Randy's Posterous .::. Size~: 21.62 KBNov 14 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux wireless LAN support   http://linux-wless.passys.nl .::. Size~: 14.76 KBNov 14 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SIGALRM In C - References Materials Anyone? - C And C++ | Dream.In.Code .::. Size~: 97.82 KBNov 14 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fedora: South African News website covers Fedora 14 release: http://ur1.ca/2cd14Nov 14 16:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 14 goes gold .::. Size~: 37.89 KBNov 14 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] re: http://goo.gl/sSOJ0 When !choqok reaches release v 1.0 it will come into the main !fedora repo? Or will I still have to enable testing?Nov 14 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mehrdad Momeny (mtux)'s status on Sunday, 14-Nov-10 12:16:15 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.78 KBNov 14 16:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @richslxh Not having much luck with a "howto install ati drivers on !fedora 14" : http://ur.ly/ulgmNov 14 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Howto  for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion - FedoraForum.org .::. Size~: 123.53 KBNov 14 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @bruce89 It WAS installed, fedora did it, 82 packages that took about half an hour. Then it said I had to install manually as it was broke.Nov 14 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So far, all the PCs I've put #Fedora on have graphics acceleration detected out of the box with free drivers. What massive progress.Nov 14 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra @richslxh don't install those, it's proprietary *, the native drivers sadly use prop. firmware but at least are closer ...Nov 14 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When all the graphics driver are free/libre, no more will people need to install them at all, let alone suffer issues when upgradingNov 14 17:01
schestowitz_Goblin: tell me when I can ringNov 14 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak @freemor #Google Analytics should be blocked not just because it's nonfree (Urchin) but because it's legalised #spywareNov 14 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz When all the graphics driver are free/libre, no more will people need to install them at all, let alone suffer issues wh ...Nov 14 17:03
_Goblinschestowitz: yep just having dinner....then I'll be readyNov 14 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @richslxh oh right, abrt is a bit of a mess reallyNov 14 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mint 10 http://ur.ly/unBU ask @thistleweb about it too, he's the expert. !linux #linuxmintNov 14 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @schestowitz @osamak @freemor #Google Analytics should be blocked not just because it's nonfree (Urchin) but because it's legalise ...Nov 14 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @schestowitz couldn't agree more.Nov 14 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mohanpram: “VLC 1.1.5 adds live WebM streaming support, Game Music Emu, Channels.com shows”: http://bit.ly/9YyiZUNov 14 17:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mint 10 | Steve's Systems Biology blog .::. Size~: 30.54 KBNov 14 17:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VLC 1.1.5 adds live WebM streaming support, Game Music Emu, Channels.com shows .::. Size~: 58.47 KBNov 14 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Why the #W3C is losing its way now that it is motored by Microsoft, Apple, and IBM http://ur.ly/uhmLNov 14 17:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The W3C and Fake Authority | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.75 KBNov 14 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If drivers are found which are compatible with Fedora, why does #Fedora !KDE spin not enable kwin desktop effects by default?Nov 14 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] If you can't beat them, virtualize them...Nov 14 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] oh shit! #sunderland beating up on #chelsea 2-0 #gyan just scored a sweet one #EPLNov 14 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @arnebab no, I'm the one who wrote that :)Nov 14 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram “NGC 7023: The Iris Nebula”: http://bit.ly/boVuMMNov 14 17:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  APOD: 2010 November 12 - NGC 7023: The Iris Nebula .::. Size~: 4.27 KBNov 14 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak Dear !lazyweb, Any recommended digital audio player that supports Ogg? !playogg > how about Creative's?Nov 14 17:31
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schestowitz_Goblin: need a few more hours to pick matrialNov 14 17:32
schestowitzI don't have enoughNov 14 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @toros "Language barrier is an innovation barrier" sounds like lobbying for #swpats in Europe when Barnier and Vincent do their shillingNov 14 17:33
Ender2070schestowitz - i found out how to clear noiseNov 14 17:34
Ender2070you build the noise profile from data without your voiceNov 14 17:35
Ender2070then apply that to the waveformNov 14 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Netflix headed to 'select Android devices' early next year http://ur.ly/uFyF even Microsoft oriented companies target !Linux nowNov 14 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] RT @schestowitz So far, all the PCs I've put #Fedora on have graphics acceleration detected out of the box with free drivers. What massi ...Nov 14 17:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netflix headed to 'select Android devices' early next year -- Engadget .::. Size~: 63.5 KBNov 14 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Announcing the first free software Blu-ray encoder http://is.gd/h3k9A #bluray #gnu #linuxNov 14 17:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Diary Of An x264 Developer » Announcing the first free software Blu-ray encoder .::. Size~: 47.71 KBNov 14 17:38
schestowitzEnder2070: yeahNov 14 17:41
schestowitzI learned it two shows ago and did it properlyNov 14 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] miserable !NaNoWriMo wordcount yesterday... merely at 26,470 , less than the suggested daily nut, but that was then. Today so far 561 wordsNov 14 17:41
schestowitzEnder2070: let me know when you start your show so I can syndicate itNov 14 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] but that's OK 'cause I'm just packing up to head over for a !NaNoWriMo write-in to kick me into gear. Gonna have a good day today :DNov 14 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @arnebab, I've opined on this yesterday: w/out an explicit relicensing clause, it's extremely difficult, to make 2 copylefts compatible.Nov 14 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to Alley Crowe's "I Never Loved A Man" cover while I unplug & pack up important writer gearNov 14 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @manildomin @schestowitz Then, why doesn't Fedora Gnome enable Compiz ? I guess that Fedora dev think that everyone would'nt like des ...Nov 14 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @F_aithe_r There's problems with opengl support under KWIN which stalls the system rather frequent. Kwin checks driver support for...Nov 14 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @F_aithe_r see http://ur.ly/uASGNov 14 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Installed mesadrivers, modprobe borked, glxgears segfaulted. Sending bug report. Feel like me and Abrt are getting along well today !fedoraNov 14 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @claudiom72 Well, specifically Android which uses Linux, but not Linux entirely. Waiting for my Linux client for $distribution.Nov 14 17:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Demystifying OpenGL Desktop Effects «  Martins Blog .::. Size~: 112.42 KBNov 14 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, But #Shuttleworth is still extremely involved, AFAICT. One only needs to see the pressure he puts on #Brock aout Project Harm ony.Nov 14 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @jargon @trombonechamp respect as well as *disrespect* are both *earned*,but @jonobacon is expecting a free ride on the first and a p ...Nov 14 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @jargon @trombonechamp u're trying to generalize what is a specific issue. canonical wants default respect. they've failed to earn it ...Nov 14 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @jargon @trombonechamp canonical doesn't even respect its own community enough to tolerate any opinion but the fanboys'. so spare me ...Nov 14 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: Petição pela não votação do ai5digital do GPOPAI-USP - http://www.ur1.ca/2cbac (via @caribe ) Assine aqui: http://bit.ly/cLUAneNov 14 17:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Página principal - Gpopai .::. Size~: 18.67 KBNov 14 17:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apelo pela não votação do PL 84/1999 Petition .::. Size~: 14.04 KBNov 14 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @jargon @trombonechamp u kid urself if u pretend like openrespect isn't just a clumsy way for @jonobacon to whine about criticism. sa ...Nov 14 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @johndrinkwater: true, but at least that was Ferrari leading ;-) If overtaking mainly occurs at pit stop, sorry, but this is no my sport.Nov 14 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Britain to Tape Traders’ Cell Phones to Fight Fraud http://ur.ly/uMi5 #privacy #cellphone #fraudNov 14 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I would like to learn more about this project, something to do with legacy object formats?Nov 14 17:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.14 KBNov 14 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #chelsea losing today man #eplNov 14 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The UK government told us it was the TERROR~1 who were the reason for phone snooping. I guess they label Canary Wharfers financial TERROR~1?Nov 14 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] oh shit #chelsea buried. #sunderland scores another one. 3-0 #eplNov 14 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @lxoliva ♻ @faconti: Petição pela não votação do ai5digital do GPOPAI-USP - http://www.ur1.ca/2cbac (via @caribe ) Assine aqui: http: ...Nov 14 17:59
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_Goblinright back....Nov 14 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Why is it no other distro's leaders/members feel the need to do this http://openrespect.org/ maybe because other communities don't need 'em?Nov 14 18:04
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schestowitz_Goblin: how about I put some link here?Nov 14 18:05
schestowitzFor discussion as I go along now?Nov 14 18:05
schestowitzAnd you do the same?Nov 14 18:06
_GoblinyepNov 14 18:06
schestowitzhttp://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1581Nov 14 18:07
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schestowitzMAjor thingNov 14 18:07
schestowitzWe should have thistle onNov 14 18:07
_Goblintonight?Nov 14 18:07
_Goblinbrb 2 mins..left coffee downstairsNov 14 18:08
schestowitz*LOL* "while all the various Linux distributions combined added up to less than 1% (and going nowhere). Despite the launch of Windows 7 more than a year ago, XP still accounts for nearly 60% of all Windows computers in the world."Nov 14 18:08
schestowitzSee?Nov 14 18:08
schestowitzThe same old FUDNov 14 18:09
schestowitzhttp://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/11/operating_systemsNov 14 18:09
schestowitzSee commentsNov 14 18:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Operating systems: The Difference Engine: Linux's Achilles heel | The Economist .::. Size~: 99.69 KBNov 14 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Keeping up with the Unitys: KDE's Plasma Netbook http://ur.ly/uiVr used it yesterday, it's fantastic! #kdeNov 14 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @bkuhn as I have made clear to you before, I am not a spokesperson for Ubuntu, but associated as such because my role is community facing.Nov 14 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @richslxh no it isn't, and I made it very clear in the blog entry - it is applicable to all discourse, including, but not limited to Ubuntu.Nov 14 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] To be completely clear: openrespect.org is *not* an Ubuntu project, it is not designed for Ubuntu, it is something I did in my spare timeNov 14 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Economist give plafform to anti-Linux piece with fake figures and trollish image http://ur.ly/uFOH #flamebaitNov 14 18:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Operating systems: The Difference Engine: Linux's Achilles heel | The Economist .::. Size~: 99.69 KBNov 14 18:11
_GoblinI think we should mention the economist article.Nov 14 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity, the next generation desktop? http://ur.ly/umPH !ubuntu #unity - got potential?Nov 14 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lots of anti-Linux pieces last week, all easily debunked with factsNov 14 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jolicloud's OS Isn't Just Similar to Chrome OS--Looks Like It Will Run With It http://ur.ly/us1Z !gnu !linuxNov 14 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UNR 10.10 Maverick Meerkat - Don't touch this! http://ur.ly/uzzC !ubuntu !gnu !linuxNov 14 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @jonobacon It's cleverly worded i'll give you that. But it is most definitely about ubuntu. No other distro community tries to force respectNov 14 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat tries the value argument for open source http://ur.ly/ujY2 freedom is worth more than money. #redhatNov 14 18:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Jolicloud's OS Isn't Just Similar to Chrome OS--Looks Like It Will Run With It  .::. Size~: 51.22 KBNov 14 18:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ask any person who is bossed around too much if s/he would take a paycut to have full independence at work. #freedom #ownershipNov 14 18:16
_GoblinIm ready to rock and roll when you are....Nov 14 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Keeping Red Hat in Raleigh a constant fight – Szulik http://ur.ly/uo82 #redhat - great news this week!Nov 14 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hexen: Edge of Chaos Demo http://ur.ly/uo83 great games on !gnu !linux tooNov 14 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !gnu !linux desktops to be more gpl-y soon. http://ur.ly/usyo (Exodus to a new land?)Nov 14 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "So eventually, Fedora will switch to the Wayland Display Server." http://ur.ly/uxKVNov 14 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MariaDB 5.2 now faster and with alternative authentication http://ur.ly/uKeF long live the forks. #mysql #scoracleNov 14 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Mageia ships LibreOffice, kicks OOo; you may not be the first to do that but thank you guys I appreciate it! #libreoffice #docufoundationNov 14 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] streaming #nfl #fail. might as well get that paper done now. #ambient provides a subtle backdropNov 14 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick look at Scientific Linux 6.0 Alpha http://ur.ly/uiVt free/libre/gratis RHEL 6 is coming #rhel #redhatNov 14 18:23
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schestowitzdwasifar  only ever complains about Linux http://www.dwasifar.com/?p=1438Nov 14 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn True. I just wanted to correct the specifics. You know.... best kind of correct and all..... ;)Nov 14 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from the run-through and very tired....Nov 14 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] New blog post: "Exploring Art History Data 1" - http://is.gd/h3CruNov 14 18:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exploring Art History Data 1 - robmyers .::. Size~: 30.6 KBNov 14 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] downloading by #sshing into my desktop via my netbook is faster than downloading straight from the desktop #mystifyingNov 14 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @jonobacon That's a bit of a stretch. You are clearly /a/ spokesman, just not /the/ spokesman as @bkuhn alleges.Nov 14 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Quick look at Scientific Linux 6.0 Alpha http://ur.ly/uiVt free/libre/gratis RHEL 6 is coming #rhel #redhatNov 14 18:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: MariaDB 5.2 now faster and with alternative authentication http://ur.ly/uKeF long live the forks. #mysql #scoracleNov 14 18:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MariaDB 5.2 now faster and with alternative authentication - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.55 KBNov 14 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Hexen: Edge of Chaos Demo http://ur.ly/uo83 great games on #gnu #linux tooNov 14 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jonobacon lol "the argument sketch" by monty python "if I haven't paid why are you arguing?" "I could be arguing in my spare time"Nov 14 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Red Hat tries the value argument for open source http://ur.ly/ujY2 freedom is worth more than money. #redhatNov 14 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LinuxGames - Embrace your inner penguin .::. Size~: 18.02 KBNov 14 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat tries the value argument for open source | Open Source - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 92.32 KBNov 14 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Economist give plafform to anti-Linux piece with fake figures and trollish image http://ur.ly/uFOH #flamebaitNov 14 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Operating systems: The Difference Engine: Linux's Achilles heel | The Economist .::. Size~: 99.66 KBNov 14 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @webmink: not denying I am a spokesperson, just not an appointed spokesperson, I understand I am seen as a public face for UbuntuNov 14 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon How exactly can one be the community manager without being an appointed spokesperson?Nov 14 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Running much needed custom made boxee box! :)Nov 14 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Really digging Ubuntu Gamer - http://www.ubuntugamer.com/ - good work, folks! #ubuntuNov 14 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Gamer | Gaming. Ubuntu style. .::. Size~: 63.21 KBNov 14 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh (1/2) my job is to build a rocking community, not be a spokesperson for all Ubuntu/Canonical decisions, but I do have a public role..Nov 14 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh (2/2) so I understand how some people assume I am *the* spokesperson - personally, I don't mind replying to public discussionNov 14 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: MariaDB 5.2 now faster and with alternative authentication http://ur.ly/uKeF long live the forks. #mysql #oracleNov 14 19:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MariaDB 5.2 now faster and with alternative authentication - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 36.55 KBNov 14 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I never said you were the *only* spokesperson.Nov 14 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Keeping Red Hat in Raleigh a constant fight – Szulik http://ur.ly/uo82 #redhat - great news this week!Nov 14 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon But I think you need to be *an* official spokesperson to talk with authority as you must do in your job.Nov 14 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/11/2010: Scientific Linux 6.0 Alpha, Fedora and Wayland http://ur.ly/ui8WNov 14 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Keeping Red Hat in Raleigh a constant fight – Szulik :: The Skinny  at Local Tech Wire .::. Size~: 21.95 KBNov 14 19:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 14/11/2010: Scientific Linux 6.0 Alpha, Fedora and Wayland | Techrights .::. Size~: 138.29 KBNov 14 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Alright, Sunday's are for spending time with my wife, heading out - speak to you lovely people later :-)Nov 14 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I am official when it comes to my team, and can often speak on behalf of others where appropriate (e.g. the platform team)Nov 14 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I wish I had more time to do stuff like that these days..... Enjoy!Nov 14 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] @fabsh I know what you mean, pal! in any case, get your arse over to California and come and visit - Outlaws America edition? :-)Nov 14 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] "If you can't fix it, you don't own it..." http://www.ifixit.com/ManifestoNov 14 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Windows is (apparently) good for businesses http://bit.ly/cPFxlt More bullshitNov 14 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @jonobacon Good that they are including Wine and Commercial games. Bit of a change for a Linux gaming site :)Nov 14 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Self-Repair Manifesto - iFixit .::. Size~: 10.44 KBNov 14 19:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Windows Is Good for Business - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 78.61 KBNov 14 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @dandart He's a spammer. Just been silenced and reported.Nov 14 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Lately !identica 's spammers are getting a little smarter, denting some related things first their usernames are still sooo obvious...Nov 14 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @jankusanagi Yes, we need to be vigilant !srNov 14 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @richslxh okay? I see one "spam" message, the others are friendly! You're too hard on them! :PNov 14 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Rapper Never Yet Contested Goes “Retro” | GeekDad | Wired.com http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/11/never-yet-contested/Nov 14 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @dandart If you've got a spammer, and you know where to find us, maybe you can hire, the spam team :) !spamreportNov 14 19:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rapper Never Yet Contested Goes Retro | GeekDad | Wired.com .::. Size~: 73.92 KBNov 14 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be an !Arch spin off called NemisisNov 14 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @arnebab,cross-copyleft compatibility is area of active research by best minds in #copyleft thought;Answer's unknown,but clearly non-trivialNov 14 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana @brettcsmith,as 2 great minds in #copyleft thought, I'm curious if you agree w/ what I wrote regarding cross-copyleft compatibilityNov 14 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Beware, new spammers getting clever. Posting relevant messages, check for profile links to spam sites. !sr They can't fool us :)Nov 14 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @drew: !Mageia supports !LibreOffice http://dlvr.it/8Wxj8 via @mageia_orgNov 14 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @richslxh "CONSTANT VIGILANCE" - Mad Eye Moody from Harry PotterNov 14 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] In the great words of MC Supper "Supper Time!" *does hip hop sideways crab dance*Nov 14 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @thistleweb Hmmm. Wonder if he'd like to join !sr :)Nov 14 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good !mageia supports #libreoffice and so the #docufoundation as well. Nice one #mageia! http://blog.mageia.org/?p=19Nov 14 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 14 19:33
sebsebsebCome on bot show with the correct URL as wellNov 14 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good !mageia supports #libreoffice and so the #docufoundation as well. Nice one #mageia! http://blog.mageia.org/?p=190Nov 14 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @arnebab, IMO you're asking for a pony. #CC-By-SA is designed for non-software works; !GPL is for software. Compatibility probably hopeless.Nov 14 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia supports LibreOffice | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 11.56 KBNov 14 19:40
sebsebseband thats good that the tag still works even though I got a ! at the end of itNov 14 19:40
schestowitz_Goblin: editing... should be quick this oneNov 14 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #ACMilan vs #Inter about to begin. #SerieANov 14 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @terryf: “Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder”!!Nov 14 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Have some free art to share - http://www.lessiseasier.net/Nov 14 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #ACMilan already on the board #Ibramovich scores a penalty #SerieANov 14 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Less is easier - Bobig is in the details .::. Size~: 19.5 KBNov 14 19:55
schestowitzAlmost there now...Nov 14 19:58
schestowitzgive it another 20-30 mins... short enough for fast encoding/decoding+uploadNov 14 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 94 dents!Nov 14 19:59
MinceRgeekingsNov 14 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon I'd love to. Will definitely take you up on that when I'm down there. :)Nov 14 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Man.... Totally worn out and tired. Only thing I can do is slouch on the couch and watch Jeeves & Wooster. I say!Nov 14 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] It's a Van Halen kind of afternoon. (Running With the Devil -- Van Halen I)Nov 14 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] cranking out the wordcount at my local !NaNoWriMo Write-In (*hint: it REALLY helps!*)Nov 14 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @arnebab, I can't really imagine when a #CC-By-SA datafile would be derivative of !GPL code, except in really pathological examples.Nov 14 20:10
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schestowitz_Goblin: 20 minutes and it's published, files not done being uploaded yetNov 14 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Figures... now I have an MP3 player loaded I'm !listening to the awesome jazz playing at the Write-In venue (Whole Lotta Gelatta) !nanowrimoNov 14 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @Pandersonpllc #Acacia Getting Sleepy? Or Just Getting Warmed Up?: http://wp.me/p1aRzi-2Z #patent #litigation #swpat #redhat #fossNov 14 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wow! Britain built 57,000 km of canals in India.Nov 14 20:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acacia Getting Sleepy? Or Just Getting Warmed Up? « Gametime IP .::. Size~: 35.98 KBNov 14 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @bkuhn: Yes people make far too much of BY-SA/GPL (in-)compatibility.Nov 14 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good #mageia! works as well for tagging in the mageia tag :)Nov 14 20:26
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Ziomatrixjust when MS. backs away from messing with one standard (Silverlight v HTML5) they start up on another that they haven't even gotten around to releasing yet: http://engt.co/b6rNl3Nov 14 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AT&T tells Samsung Focus customers not to buy microSD cards yet, wait for 'certified' ones (update: random access speed is key) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 65.51 KBNov 14 20:29
schestowitzOh yeahNov 14 20:32
schestowitzHmmm...Nov 14 20:33
schestowitzI thought it would be about exFATNov 14 20:33
schestowitzThe patent tax on devices, with Tuxera's 'helpNov 14 20:33
Ziomatrixschestowitz: MS. & AT&T claim the only requirement is Class 6 but apparently WP7 also formats it with a proprietary swap space and demand cards with better random access.Nov 14 20:36
Ziomatrixschestowitz: thats part of exFAT correct?Nov 14 20:38
Ziomatrixschestowitz: apparently AT&T and MS. didn't make it clear at first and some folks ended up frying their lower spec SDs: http://engt.co/9LokPMNov 14 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung Focus having microSD issues, AT&T not installing cards in-store (updated) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 64.06 KBNov 14 20:42
Ziomatrixschestowitz: seems to me MS. is bringing the bulk of pagefile swapping to the mobile realm.Nov 14 20:42
Ziomatrixthey're looking to inflate the minimum specs and price of hardware like they initially did with PCs a little over a decade ago.Nov 14 20:43
schestowitzZiomatrix: haaa...Nov 14 20:44
schestowitzThey fried them... Microsoft is good at thatNov 14 20:44
schestowitzAdded for posting laterNov 14 20:44
schestowitzAll those "UPDATE"s possibly means that Microsoft PR leans on engadgetNov 14 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] thanks to *lots* of time @tarek_ziade found to help me, Mozilla Sync with LDAP and PostgreSQL backends now runs on #Brama server! :D #winNov 14 20:46
Ziomatrixschestowitz: why wouldn't they it's becoming the most popular tech blog on the net. Or at least popular enough for companies and advertisers to boost their revenue considerabley. They throw their own conventions now for crying out loud.Nov 14 20:47
Ziomatrixschestowitz: it would have been worse for them if they didn't and if MS. had to spend some to have those breaking updates then they deserve it for not making their SD problem obvious to anyone not digging into the anals of their support website soon enougNov 14 20:49
Ziomatrixh.Nov 14 20:49
Ziomatrixschestowitz: MS. is like how autocompanies operating in the US, covering up defects disclosed until the aftermath.Nov 14 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Volunteers Report: #OLPC Samoa School Deployments http://ur.ly/uKeN more !gnu and !linux for next generationNov 14 20:51
Ziomatrixschestowitz: however, this was not even a defect.Nov 14 20:51
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schestowitz_Goblin: !TechBytes ☛ Episode 7: FUD From The Economist, New Releases, and !Linux ☛ Eureka Moment at #Netflix ☛ http://ur.ly/uzjZ http://ur.ly/uASONov 14 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 7: FUD From The Economist, New Releases, and Linux Eureka Moment at Netflix | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.49 KBNov 14 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » TechBytes Episode 7: Fighting GNU/Linux FUD, Checking Out Ballmers Latest Failures .::. Size~: 33.27 KBNov 14 20:52
schestowitzZiomatrix: like with battery in Vista 7Nov 14 20:52
schestowitzLet me find the linkNov 14 20:52
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/04/03/windows-7-battery-issues-confirmed/Nov 14 20:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vista 7 Does Have Battery Issues (Microsoft Lied) and Microsoft Gives “MVP” to Man Who Loves to Argue Against Linux Fanatics | Techrights .::. Size~: 129.24 KBNov 14 20:53
amarsh04schestowitz, are you now including links to previous episodes of TechBytes in new audiocast postings? I think that would be a good ideaNov 14 20:59
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I like that CDE that enables applications to be installed along with their depending libraries remotely.Nov 14 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: Volunteers Report: #OLPC Samoa School Deployments http://ur.ly/uKeN more !gnu and !linux for next generationNov 14 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Still at it with !fedora + Ati. Googling "[glesx] __glESXExtensionInit: No GL ES2.0 capable screen found!" That's where it segfaulted.Nov 14 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 10 Download Links http://ur.ly/umzb "Linux Mint 10 has brought more traffic than we’ve ever seen before" !linux !gnuNov 14 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @bkuhn It's not going to happen automatically but it would be a smart way for javadoc-generated texts to be licensed, for exampleNov 14 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Getting hungry, In-N-Out sounds good right now!Nov 14 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] I'm guessing the rpmfusuion owners are Nvidia users :( http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/14/Everything/i386/os/Nov 14 21:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes from memory the Economist hardly ever puts the writers name to the article, part of reason I stopped reading it.Nov 14 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, i'm bailing on !fedora 14. If Mr Fedora Fglrx Ati Howto Guide can't do it, then what chance have I got? :( http://ur1.ca/2cjjrNov 14 21:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Howto  for fglrx / catalyst (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion - FedoraForum.org .::. Size~: 124.72 KBNov 14 21:11
_Goblinschestowitz: thanks just returned to PC...putting up now!Nov 14 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Kevin Love has NBA's first 30-30 game in 28 years - Ball Don't Lie - NBA  - Yahoo! Sports http://ur1.ca/2cjkcNov 14 21:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kevin Love has NBA's first 30-30 game in 28 years - Ball Don't Lie  - NBA  - Yahoo! Sports .::. Size~: 170.29 KBNov 14 21:13
schestowitzNiceNov 14 21:13
schestowitzamarsh04: right. I'll do thatNov 14 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hypatiadotca Good visit with Byron this afternoon. He's safe and in good spirits, and requests more books :) http://ping.fm/SiHUx ...Nov 14 21:14
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schestowitz"http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/11/13/how-to-install-linux-mint-10-on-a-btrfs-file-system/"Nov 14 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to install Linux Mint 10 on a btrfs file system   LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 66.86 KBNov 14 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Early reviews of new Linux Mint: http://ur.ly/ujYd http://ur.ly/upaH instructions: http://ur.ly/uJZbNov 14 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Linux Mint 10: A beautiful rescue distro .::. Size~: 83.39 KBNov 14 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint 10 Reviewed | Linux Critic - Linux News, Reviews, Articles and More. .::. Size~: 64.94 KBNov 14 21:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to install Linux Mint 10 on a btrfs file system   LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 66.86 KBNov 14 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've managed to use just #Konqueror at work for one week (KDE 4.5), twice as long as I could do it in !KDE 4.3 before bailing. It improved.Nov 14 21:24
schestowitz_Goblin: remember what I told you about why it's hard to not read COLA?Nov 14 21:28
_GoblinyepNov 14 21:28
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/98ce2244ee51da0c/180f1ab469453daaNov 14 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Where or where is Ron Schestowitz gone? -  comp.os.linux.advocacy |  Google Groups   .::. Size~: 260.67 KBNov 14 21:28
schestowitzI think it's GaryNov 14 21:28
_Goblinyeah I saw that one!Nov 14 21:28
schestowitz"Nov 14 21:28
schestowitzDon't get me wrong, I'm not a Schestowitz hater.  But so much of theNov 14 21:28
schestowitzstuff he posted in this group was... meh.Nov 14 21:28
schestowitz"Nov 14 21:28
schestowitzdeconstruct this...Nov 14 21:29
schestowitzI like Linux, but...Nov 14 21:29
_Goblinlol...Nov 14 21:29
schestowitzDarwin was a brilliant man, but...Nov 14 21:29
_Goblinyou would think they could learn a new way of doing thingsNov 14 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] «You can freely distribute this package as I do not believe in imaginary property.» !q Hanno ReinNov 14 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 7 – 14/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/2blufbjNov 14 21:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 7 – 14/11/10 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 34.41 KBNov 14 21:30
schestowitzLins****: we use Linux and....Nov 14 21:30
schestowitzhttp://blog.rockmelt.com/Nov 14 21:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RockMelt blog .::. Size~: 52.18 KBNov 14 21:31
schestowitz"Whoof! It’s been a crazy 72 hours for us here at RockMelt. Since launching our limited beta last Sunday afternoon we’ve been bowled over by the positive response, the number of beta signups, and the great show of support we’ve received from everyone. Thanks!"Nov 14 21:31
schestowitzProprietaryNov 14 21:31
schestowitzSheep clothingNov 14 21:31
schestowitz_Goblin: check trackbacks nowNov 14 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @openbytes TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 7 – 14/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/2blufbjNov 14 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 7 – 14/11/10 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 34.41 KBNov 14 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Kevin Love has NBA's first 30-30 game in 28 years - Ball Don't Lie - NBA  - Yahoo! Sports http://ur1.ca/2cjkcNov 14 21:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kevin Love has NBA's first 30-30 game in 28 years - Ball Don't Lie  - NBA  - Yahoo! Sports .::. Size~: 168.53 KBNov 14 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @richslxh Awesomeness.Nov 14 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Wearing myself too thing - ur1.ca/2cjrbNov 14 21:41
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Researchers Take Down Koobface Servers http://bit.ly/cd8gjoNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] #Cuba objects 2 the obvious political agendas of violent American video games: http://canada.com/technology/story.html?id=3812385 #aboutTimeNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @AnalizeThis #Angle spent $97 per #vote - and lost http://wapo.st/9kAnRw // now *that's* stimulus right thereNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] "Perhaps decades of #Berlusconi-owned television...have brainwashed the whole country." - Ya Think? #duh http://t.co/ulC9nww #italyNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] What PHP framework should I learn ? Any suggestions?Nov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] The Monopolies That Dominate the Internet http://bit.ly/bJSQn4Nov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] .@nitrofurano #gdb might :-X #galeonNov 14 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Researchers Take Down Koobface Servers .::. Size~: 97.73 KBNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] "All sorts of people work here, this is a #pizza parlor," ... She's funnier than the Cooks Source woman, anyway. #HouseOfPizza #AndFruitcakeNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Edward Tufte's Library Up For Auction http://bit.ly/a3MiwrNov 14 21:43
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] hey @urbanoutfitters i think your logo has been hacked. cc @GapLogoNov 14 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Angle, McMahon led way spending $97 per vote - and lost .::. Size~: 93.01 KBNov 14 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La dolce vita, Berlusconi style, may finally be just too much - thestar.com .::. Size~: 103.93 KBNov 14 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | The Monopolies That Dominate the Internet .::. Size~: 152.25 KBNov 14 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Edward Tufte's Library Up For Auction .::. Size~: 101.44 KBNov 14 21:43
schestowitzamarsh04: doneNov 14 21:44
schestowitzapplied to latest post as exampleNov 14 21:45
schestowitzShould I add box to table?Nov 14 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Firefox 4.0 beta 8 is pretty fast...Nov 14 21:46
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amarsh04thanks, that was quick, just let me check schestowitzNov 14 21:48
schestowitzI could lay it out betterNov 14 21:49
amarsh04yes, a box might add to the clarity, otherwise you could have a permanent page for TechBytes and just link to it from each episode's pageNov 14 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds yeah man that is awesome!Nov 14 21:51
sebsebsebhmm  I lost my account on the spotchat Mint IRC network, I don't know whyNov 14 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] In-N-Out really hit the spot! Time to drive back home on one of the most beautiful street in my townNov 14 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Pushing #swpats in India. http://ur1.ca/2cju1Nov 14 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Curious today... heard from a colleague who uses scilab, now wanting to compare it to gnu octaveNov 14 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @deadsuperhero @schestowitz I just wish a good !qt or !kde browser could get as big of a dev community as Firefox, and get loads of f ...Nov 14 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yea definitely high flyingNov 14 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed! Now, where did I put that smoking jacket?Nov 14 22:01
schestowitzamarsh04: better now?Nov 14 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #philosophy paper halfway done.Nov 14 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] MS left on the bench by that pesky Linux. http://ur1.ca/2cjwoNov 14 22:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft, Google and cloud tech news: Microsoft breaks petaflop barrier, loses Top 500 spot to Linux | Network World .::. Size~: 77.64 KBNov 14 22:10
*benazoulay (4b50a950@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.80.169.80) has joined #techrightsNov 14 22:10
benazoulayhi everyoneNov 14 22:10
benazoulayjust browsing the patent api article, is anyone in hereNov 14 22:10
schestowitzyesNov 14 22:11
schestowitzHow's it going?Nov 14 22:11
benazoulayno shitNov 14 22:11
benazoulayhahaNov 14 22:11
benazoulaythis is acutally workingNov 14 22:11
schestowitzIs it Jose's article?Nov 14 22:11
benazoulayno its yours!Nov 14 22:11
schestowitzWhich URL?Nov 14 22:11
benazoulayi am so lucky to have found you buddyNov 14 22:11
benazoulayhold onNov 14 22:11
benazoulayhttp://techrights.org/2009/02/04/the-api-trap-part-1/Nov 14 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Guest Post: Watch Out for “Patented API” Traps, by Jose X | Techrights .::. Size~: 123.45 KBNov 14 22:12
schestowitz[22:11] <benazoulay> i am so lucky to have found you buddyNov 14 22:12
schestowitzSame to you, we could always use some help here...Nov 14 22:12
benazoulayDr. Schestowitz -- first, my name is Ben Azoulay, I am a student at San Diego StateNov 14 22:12
benazoulayin Entrepneurship and BusinessNov 14 22:13
schestowitzAny specific area?Nov 14 22:13
benazoulayI have a venture that I think is incredible -- obviously, otherwise I wouldn't get involvedNov 14 22:13
benazoulayhowever, its so trickyNov 14 22:13
schestowitzLike technology?Nov 14 22:13
benazoulaybecause it is uses facebook apiNov 14 22:13
benazoulayto gather dataNov 14 22:13
benazoulayand then reimpose it in a fresh wayNov 14 22:13
benazoulayby combining it with another apiNov 14 22:13
benazoulayin a new/cool/better revolutionizing wayNov 14 22:14
schestowitzSpyware bizNov 14 22:14
benazoulayabsolutely notNov 14 22:14
benazoulaynot spywareNov 14 22:14
schestowitzHow to drill into people's minds :-)Nov 14 22:14
benazoulayits in the entertainmentNov 14 22:14
schestowitzSort of..Nov 14 22:14
benazoulayno no noNov 14 22:14
benazoulaynot at all!Nov 14 22:14
benazoulayno drillingNov 14 22:14
schestowitzFacebook is the spywareNov 14 22:14
benazoulayhahahNov 14 22:14
benazoulayi dont care about the people infoNov 14 22:14
schestowitzNot those using the API to slurp it inNov 14 22:14
benazoulayall i care about is a certain feed that facebook hasNov 14 22:14
schestowitzbenazoulay: to them. people are number :-)Nov 14 22:14
benazoulayand a few other companies give API with their feedsNov 14 22:14
benazoulaylol...Nov 14 22:15
schestowitzIn Facebook - people go on Mark's DB, Mark makes $$$Nov 14 22:15
schestowitzHe makes money by giving away stuff they don't want to shareNov 14 22:15
benazoulaywell Ben over here likes Mark's db, but theres a million other industriesNov 14 22:15
benazoulaythat can benefit from mark's db in better waysNov 14 22:15
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/FacebookNov 14 22:15
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benazoulaytechinically - how do i take facebook api, and then another major company apiNov 14 22:15
benazoulaymashem togetherNov 14 22:15
hazzyHmm, I was not aware that Facebook had an APINov 14 22:16
benazoulayand call it my softwareNov 14 22:16
benazoulayyeahNov 14 22:16
hazzyThat's unsettlingNov 14 22:16
benazoulaydeveloper apiNov 14 22:16
benazoulayyou can access anything you wantNov 14 22:16
schestowitzhazzy: yes, they give data to third partiesNov 14 22:16
schestowitzInc. hidden stuffNov 14 22:16
benazoulayyou have to get the user token of approval before you can access more than hisNov 14 22:16
benazoulaybasic infoNov 14 22:16
oiaohmHave you read Facebook usage policy benazoulayNov 14 22:16
benazoulaynoNov 14 22:16
schestowitzFacebook -- which hole should we data catheter up today?Nov 14 22:16
oiaohmThey can basically do anything with your data and you cannot legally do a thing about it.Nov 14 22:17
benazoulayperfect for meNov 14 22:17
benazoulaylolNov 14 22:17
schestowitzbenazoulay: the Feds are after FBNov 14 22:17
oiaohmThis is the problem people are idiots and don't read the conditionsNov 14 22:17
schestowitzBecause of the APIsNov 14 22:17
benazoulayoh shit, are you serious about fedsNov 14 22:17
schestowitzSharing too much without permissionNov 14 22:17
benazoulaybecause friendster died to myspaceNov 14 22:17
schestowitzSo not long-term VC securityNov 14 22:17
benazoulayand myspace died to facebookNov 14 22:17
benazoulayif feds screw facebookNov 14 22:17
benazoulaythen that sucks for social networkingNov 14 22:18
benazoulaybig timeNov 14 22:18
benazoulayi think its a huge loss in human evolutionNov 14 22:18
oiaohmGoogle at least has the condition that they cannot give stuff to third parties without your permission unless court orders them in the country where the data is stored.Nov 14 22:18
schestowitz"Sucks for" makes it sound badNov 14 22:18
oiaohmYes that can be like playing wack a mole.Nov 14 22:18
benazoulayi hope not, but i doubt fb will get destroyedNov 14 22:18
benazoulaythe VC firm that funded it is sleeping with the CIANov 14 22:18
schestowitzEverything does at some pointNov 14 22:18
schestowitzExcept eARTHNov 14 22:19
oiaohmRemember when hotmail was top dog.  benazoulayNov 14 22:19
schestowitzEven if we destoryed outselves, Earth would still be in orbitNov 14 22:19
oiaohmThen MS took it over then ruined it.Nov 14 22:19
oiaohmI expect same kind of event to take down facebook.Nov 14 22:19
benazoulayyou guys are some pretty fucking smart peopleNov 14 22:19
benazoulayi like this chat a lotNov 14 22:19
benazoulayalright, so can i ask you some questions to see if you can help me with this?Nov 14 22:19
oiaohmI am a bit of a computer history buff.Nov 14 22:20
benazoulayif this is feasible, I have no prob. including anyone in the convo providing they are bad ass programmersNov 14 22:20
schestowitzRemember Digg?Nov 14 22:20
benazoulayDr! I need you help sir!Nov 14 22:20
hazzyWhat is it that you need help with?Nov 14 22:20
schestowitzIt was unstoppable, it jumped the shark thoughNov 14 22:20
benazoulayif i take Facebook API + Another Big API = Ben's ServiceNov 14 22:21
benazoulaywhat can i protect?Nov 14 22:21
hazzyOh, yes, I seeNov 14 22:21
benazoulayso im taking data from facebook and imposing it on another serviceNov 14 22:21
oiaohmAgain Microsoft and others like ruined digg spaming the results.Nov 14 22:21
benazoulayto make a mashup that will bring something really cool to civilizationNov 14 22:21
schestowitzPeople hardly participate in Digg anymore http://digg.com/schestowitzNov 14 22:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digg - Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) - Profile .::. Size~: 67.17 KBNov 14 22:22
benazoulayi swear this has no spam, or mal-intentions here, im intending to make something extremely usefulNov 14 22:22
benazoulayto the worldNov 14 22:22
schestowitzoiaohm: when it grows the SEM scum take overNov 14 22:22
hazzyWell, do you have access to the API?Nov 14 22:22
schestowitzWe lost prepeller (domain trahsed) after spammers took over the siteNov 14 22:22
oiaohmI would have to read the facebook licence conditions.  I think you could straight up raid.   benazoulayNov 14 22:22
schestowitzI had like 25000 submissions there!Nov 14 22:22
schestowitzAll wiped nowNov 14 22:22
oiaohmTransfering what ever you like out of there service.  benazoulayNov 14 22:22
schestowitzAlong with the whole sieNov 14 22:23
schestowitzAlong with the whole siteNov 14 22:23
benazoulayim confused as to how this chat worksNov 14 22:23
benazoulayis the dr. talking to meNov 14 22:23
benazoulayi know user OIAOHM is talking to meNov 14 22:23
benazoulaybut are you all talking about other stuffNov 14 22:23
schestowitzbenazoulay: we can aliasesNov 14 22:23
schestowitzbenazoulay: like, I could address messages at peopleNov 14 22:23
schestowitzhazzy: hiNov 14 22:23
benazoulaywhat? Im a newb with IRCNov 14 22:23
schestowitzoiaohm: helloNov 14 22:24
hazzyHi :)Nov 14 22:24
oiaohmIts nothing strange for 3 to for different chats going side by side in IRCNov 14 22:24
benazoulayoh i seeNov 14 22:24
oiaohmschestowitz: hiNov 14 22:24
schestowitzBut sometimes it's implicitly obviousNov 14 22:24
schestowitzUsing name just triggers alerts in people's IRC clients a lot of the timNov 14 22:24
schestowitz*(timeNov 14 22:24
oiaohmIn my IRC client any line for me turns red.Nov 14 22:24
benazoulayhow do you address to someones nameNov 14 22:24
benazoulayme tooNov 14 22:24
oiaohmI have tab complete.   So I type part of name and press tab untill I have the correct user name.Nov 14 22:25
oiaohmThen type message.Nov 14 22:25
oiaohmOf course not all clients have this.Nov 14 22:25
benazoulayi see i seeNov 14 22:26
benazoulayso back to my issueNov 14 22:26
oiaohmirc is a very basic protocal clients do the magic.Nov 14 22:26
schestowitzbenazoulay: okNov 14 22:26
benazoulaythere was camera and then video recorder = camcorderNov 14 22:26
benazoulaythis has a patentNov 14 22:26
benazoulaytook two existing technologies and then mashed them for a new one and patented itNov 14 22:27
benazoulayi am taking Facebook + Another Service = My ServiceNov 14 22:27
benazoulayin the software worldNov 14 22:27
schestowitzFacebook is a patent bullyNov 14 22:27
benazoulaywhat can I patent or how can I protec this?Nov 14 22:27
schestowitzDOn't patentNov 14 22:27
schestowitzYou'd be attackedNov 14 22:27
benazoulaythey just did Geo Locate Patent for their Check-InsNov 14 22:27
schestowitzAnd you'd be outnumberedNov 14 22:27
benazoulaybut they own nothing in my domainNov 14 22:27
schestowitzI have a video for youNov 14 22:28
hazzyIt's pretty trivial to scrape info from Facebook, tbhNov 14 22:28
oiaohm# You will not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.  << This is not somethign I particular like about facebookNov 14 22:28
schestowitzTo explain to you why only big companies like IBM win with patentsNov 14 22:28
oiaohmYou will not create more than one personal profile.  << Also another issue on facebook.Nov 14 22:28
benazoulaywell why not patent it?Nov 14 22:28
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/09/23/richard-stallman-software-patents-au/Nov 14 22:28
benazoulayis that possibleNov 14 22:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Richard Stallman Interview About Software Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.6 KBNov 14 22:28
oiaohmFacebook makes it simple for bullies.Nov 14 22:28
benazoulayto take someones software + another service = my own?Nov 14 22:28
benazoulayany thoughts on thisNov 14 22:29
schestowitzOlder: http://techrights.org/2008/03/10/rms-software-patents/Nov 14 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard Stallman Explains Software Patents (Video) | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.03 KBNov 14 22:29
oiaohmbenazoulay: really there is a place for a idenity protecting version of facebook.Nov 14 22:29
benazoulayok i got the vidNov 14 22:29
benazoulayi will watch it in a few after this convo thank you Dr!Nov 14 22:29
schestowitzoiaohm: What's it called BeckBack?Nov 14 22:29
benazoulayi dont understand OIAOHMNov 14 22:30
schestowitzbenazoulay: it's execution that counts, not monopoly granted by government (e.g. patent).Nov 14 22:30
benazoulayI see, I have heard that twice alreadyNov 14 22:31
benazoulaybut its risky having a software that works upon another softwareNov 14 22:31
benazoulaylike Mozilla is a feature of Windows which is built upon motherboardsNov 14 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Create 3D holographic images with Kinect: YouTube http://bit.ly/chmY4MNov 14 22:31
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benazoulaykeeps goingNov 14 22:31
benazoulaymine is upon facebookNov 14 22:31
benazoulaylike an appNov 14 22:31
benazoulaybut I wish to keep it secure and sustainableNov 14 22:32
benazoulaynot thwarted, raped, and copied by othersNov 14 22:32
benazoulayso how must I achieve?Nov 14 22:32
benazoulayI can access funds with no issueNov 14 22:32
oiaohmhttp://www.facebook.com/terms.php  Have you read the developer section particular point 14 in there.Nov 14 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Statement of Rights and Responsibilities | Facebook .::. Size~: 41.65 KBNov 14 22:32
benazoulayI am seeking your knowledgeNov 14 22:32
oiaohmbenazoulay:Nov 14 22:32
benazoulayand if it proves valuable, I mostl willingly would love you on boardNov 14 22:32
oiaohmbenazoulay: name with nothing after refer to the line 1 before by that user.   They missed typing you name before typing message.Nov 14 22:33
amarsh04yes, that's good schestowitzNov 14 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @speeddefrost welcome back to upper net. pydentica went nuts on me :)Nov 14 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] After years in !NYC, finally turned on Law&Order to see my own neighborhood (& portrayed as such, not pretending to be a diff one).Nov 14 22:34
oiaohmbenazoulay: nothing says that you have to store the data facebook servers gives you on facebook servers.  Basically facebook is set up bad.Nov 14 22:35
schestowitz[22:31] <benazoulay> like Mozilla is a feature of Windows which is built upon motherboardsNov 14 22:36
schestowitzbenazoulay: Mozilla runs on many platformsNov 14 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is bringing peace to the Middle East beyond the abilities of the USA? http://ur1.ca/2ck33 #politicsNov 14 22:36
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schestowitzThere are also many motherboard with completely different types of memory and processorNov 14 22:36
schestowitzWindows is built for x96 only (almost)Nov 14 22:36
schestowitzSo yes, Windows burns itself, excluding itself from mobile devices by having this reliance on Intel & co (patents0Nov 14 22:37
benazoulayDr. Roy where are you locatedNov 14 22:37
oiaohmReally Windows has tried releasing for other cpu types over the years.Nov 14 22:37
benazoulayand what is your job?Nov 14 22:37
benazoulaysame with you OIAOHMNov 14 22:38
oiaohm.net was intended to allow MS to get out of the CPU trap with allications.Nov 14 22:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: Wine 1.3.7 Released with improved system tray support, fixes http://bit.ly/b5ReuQNov 14 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wine 1.3.7 Released with improved system tray support, fixes .::. Size~: 28.84 KBNov 14 22:38
oiaohmPlease don't cap my handle.Nov 14 22:38
schestowitzI don't talk about it in public, benazoulay, because trolls then try to harrass me via my employerNov 14 22:38
oiaohmI know its a acromim.Nov 14 22:38
schestowitzThey just need to know I'm in researchNov 14 22:38
oiaohmoiaohm=ok I am over here mateNov 14 22:38
oiaohmDoes the last word give you a hint.   benazoulayNov 14 22:39
benazoulayenglandNov 14 22:39
oiaohmI am in AustraliaNov 14 22:39
schestowitzoiaohm never says  'gdayNov 14 22:39
schestowitzoiaohm never says  g'dayNov 14 22:39
hazzyAustralia?Nov 14 22:39
benazoulayhahaNov 14 22:39
hazzyI never knew that eitherNov 14 22:39
benazoulayok my friend is there now just attended 'schoolies'Nov 14 22:40
schestowitzNov 14 22:40
schestowitz[22:35] <Quadrescence> schestowitz: http://i.imgur.com/Db3Az.pngNov 14 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 14 22:40
oiaohmMy stuffed up english hides my country well.Nov 14 22:40
schestowitzbenazoulay: school lies?Nov 14 22:40
benazoulayi suppose, its some big australian partyNov 14 22:40
benazoulaylike a school vacationNov 14 22:40
oiaohmI normally suspected by language of non native english speaker.Nov 14 22:40
oiaohmWhat is incorrect.Nov 14 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @apachelogger: #kubuntu #mobile 11.04 is most likely going to work on the !n900 - we have a great team working to make that happen \o/Nov 14 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 28686 !Nanowrimo Wordcount ... time to pack it in & head home, hoping to catch my #StoryCraft chat!Nov 14 22:41
oiaohmProblem I have I had bad dyslexia to attempt to cure it I kinda over studied english.Nov 14 22:41
benazoulayhahaNov 14 22:41
benazoulayrichard branson also had dyslexiaNov 14 22:42
benazoulayhe is a billionaire so maybe your brain is just engineered to be smarter at somethingsNov 14 22:42
benazoulaythan othersNov 14 22:42
benazoulaythats what i believeNov 14 22:42
oiaohmResults is I use rare and exotic rules of english in general typing.Nov 14 22:42
hazzyLike I said man, it's quite trivial to scrape Facebook dataNov 14 22:42
benazoulayhazzy whats trivial about it?Nov 14 22:42
benazoulayexplain?Nov 14 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I wish there was a XUL/Gecko-based QT4/KDE browser, something which could use most of the Firefox extensions but fit into my desktop.Nov 14 22:43
hazzyIf they don't give access to the API, just set up a Python script that can follow links on peoples' wallNov 14 22:43
oiaohmI even from type to time write what are waky poems to test people wanting DR in language.Nov 14 22:43
_Goblinschestowitz: meant to say...it was appreciated you yet again did the encoding....Ive checked the trackbacks, they are all in place.Nov 14 22:44
benazoulayLook I have someones e-mail in here this stuff is useful you are smart as hellNov 14 22:44
benazoulayin this fieldNov 14 22:44
benazoulaymay we stay in touch by some meansNov 14 22:44
benazoulaymy facebook.com/ben.azoulayNov 14 22:44
benazoulayyou may check me out -- i am transparent and realNov 14 22:44
oiaohmI don't use facebookNov 14 22:44
benazoulayyou can check my link sirNov 14 22:44
oiaohmMost likely never will.Nov 14 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @evan Wishing good health to friends and family with Diabetes on World Diabetes Day.Nov 14 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] That would be a lot of work reimplementing XULRunner to use QT instead of Gtk, but it'd be worth it to have menus, etc look/feel right.Nov 14 22:45
_Goblinwhats facebook? ;)Nov 14 22:45
benazoulaylolNov 14 22:45
oiaohmThat is the other thing.  Lot of the open source world runs blogsNov 14 22:45
hazzyAh, so you're a DJ?Nov 14 22:45
benazoulaycould you generate any kind of script to get all the event data from facebook?Nov 14 22:45
hazzyI aspire to be oneNov 14 22:45
oiaohmI don't think I have seen one open source project with a facebook site.Nov 14 22:45
oiaohmSeams not to happen.Nov 14 22:45
benazoulayyes in san diegoNov 14 22:45
hazzyOh, waitNov 14 22:46
_Goblinmmm.....I think youre right oiaohm .....just thinking about any exceptions.Nov 14 22:46
hazzyAll the event data?Nov 14 22:46
benazoulayhazzy - if you help me with this project by emailNov 14 22:46
benazoulayi will teach you everythingNov 14 22:46
benazoulayim quite connected in la, san diego,Nov 14 22:46
benazoulayin the dj scene out hereNov 14 22:46
oiaohmAlso facebook takes approx 180 days to delete a file.  benazoulayNov 14 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rysiek ♻ @apachelogger: kubuntu mobile 11.04 is most likely going to work on the !n900 -we have a great team working to make that happenNov 14 22:46
oiaohmAfter user requested it deleted.Nov 14 22:46
benazoulaydid you get my question beforeNov 14 22:47
benazoulayabout getting all event data without using api?Nov 14 22:47
schestowitz_Goblin: :-)Nov 14 22:47
hazzyI didn't see that oneNov 14 22:47
benazoulayi'm thinking using my own spider to get in thereNov 14 22:47
oiaohmSure lot of data can be extracted from face book using spiders and google.Nov 14 22:47
benazoulaywhy google?Nov 14 22:47
benazoulaywhat access do i have to their algosNov 14 22:47
hazzyYes, I've been experimenting programming spiders in Python latelyNov 14 22:47
oiaohmgoogle cache can allow you to extract data already deleted.  benazoulayNov 14 22:47
oiaohmYou are talking to a guy who does forensics here.  benazoulayNov 14 22:48
benazoulaybut of what use is already deleted google or facebook dataaNov 14 22:48
schestowitz[22:45] <_Goblin> whats facebook? ;)    < it's when you facepalm with a bookNov 14 22:48
schestowitzhttp://isharedwhat.com/Nov 14 22:48
oiaohmgoogle cache will hold data that facebook has already deleted.Nov 14 22:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I Shared What?!? Login .::. Size~: 4.69 KBNov 14 22:48
oiaohmgoogle cache normally clears about 30 days after facebook does.Nov 14 22:48
oiaohmSo a nice 210 days to go to server and get evidence on a bully.Nov 14 22:49
oiaohmOr other illegal users on facebook.Nov 14 22:49
benazoulayquestion is; have you ever known anyone making an app on facebookNov 14 22:49
benazoulaythats integrates with another big serviceNov 14 22:49
benazoulayto create a new serviceNov 14 22:49
_Goblinschestowitz: Ah!!!! Done that a few times before!Nov 14 22:49
benazoulaywhat is mine ? thats the question?Nov 14 22:49
benazoulayafter i get API data fom facebook, is it MY dataNov 14 22:50
benazoulayor is in THEIR data, and if i make ad money, do THEY sue meNov 14 22:50
oiaohmOther than about 4 convited bot mastera and about another 8 not caught.  benazoulayNov 14 22:50
schestowitz_Goblin: 1200+ _non-cached_ downloads in the past ~12 hoursNov 14 22:50
schestowitzNot including cached ones and your copies of them, so the pace goes upNov 14 22:50
oiaohmYes infecting client machines and join them to a bot network by cloning games on facebook with fakes.Nov 14 22:50
benazoulayi dont want to clone anyything or make gamesNov 14 22:51
oiaohmCurrent rules if you use there data for adveristement is not permitted.Nov 14 22:51
benazoulayi just intent to grab some information from themNov 14 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @seeds: ♺ @schestowitz: Volunteers Report: #OLPC Samoa School Deployments http://ur.ly/uKeN more !gnu and !linux for next generationNov 14 22:51
oiaohmBut there rules are that lax.Nov 14 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Volunteers Report: OLPC Samoa School Deployments - OLPC News .::. Size~: 69.11 KBNov 14 22:51
benazoulayonce i retreive it from their apiNov 14 22:51
benazoulayis it mine?Nov 14 22:51
oiaohmNo benazoulayNov 14 22:51
_Goblinschestowitz: :) Great news!....Nov 14 22:51
oiaohmYou need todo the basics of copyright.  benazoulayNov 14 22:51
oiaohmBefore you get yourself into trouble benazoulayNov 14 22:52
oiaohmGoogle could have themselfs into trouble over using javadoc wrong.Nov 14 22:52
schestowitzcopyright on log data?Nov 14 22:52
benazoulayno noNov 14 22:52
*schestowitz needs beer!!Nov 14 22:52
benazoulayi want API dataNov 14 22:52
schestowitz(to sober up)Nov 14 22:52
oiaohmThere data is there copyright.  Unless you have a doc that transfer it to you.Nov 14 22:53
schestowitzI should copyright my shoeprintNov 14 22:53
benazoulayi intend to grab their API data and put it on my serversNov 14 22:53
benazoulaywith application license they say in developer tutorial that this is okNov 14 22:53
oiaohmNothing in facebook terms of service forbids that.  benazoulayNov 14 22:53
benazoulayi give them https request with callback urlNov 14 22:53
oiaohmIe placing the data on your own servers.Nov 14 22:54
benazoulayand then bang bang everytime the subscribed info is tracked, i get notifiedNov 14 22:54
benazoulaywith a batch data over to my serverNov 14 22:54
oiaohmBut there are conditions of use of that data.Nov 14 22:54
benazoulaythey approve this in order to allow applications liek games and utilities to functionNov 14 22:54
oiaohmReally again no.  They approve it because they are lazy.Nov 14 22:54
oiaohmAnd don't provide like a openid shared interface.Nov 14 22:55
oiaohmIe transfering private data off server to anyone other than end user who put it up there should never be required.Nov 14 22:55
benazoulaywhat does it matter they are making their money off adsNov 14 22:55
benazoulayif they have great apps on their product, it incrases their trafficNov 14 22:55
benazoulay= bigger revenuesNov 14 22:55
benazoulayit works for themNov 14 22:56
benazoulaythey are smart peopleNov 14 22:56
oiaohmGoogle model.Nov 14 22:56
benazoulaygoogle doesnt have 3rd party apps on itNov 14 22:56
oiaohmFacebook basically is following the google model.Nov 14 22:56
oiaohmYou are kidding right.Nov 14 22:56
benazoulaylolNov 14 22:56
benazoulayenlighten my newbishnessNov 14 22:56
benazoulaypor favor" as we say in souther californiaNov 14 22:56
benazoulaycan you show me some popular google apps?Nov 14 22:57
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_GoblinI think the "smart thing" about Facebook, is their ability to make people who don't have an account feel in someway socially excluded.....thats why I wouldn't give Facebook the time of day...Nov 14 22:57
_Goblina fad....Nov 14 22:57
benazoulaysocial media is no fadNov 14 22:58
benazoulaysocial networksNov 14 22:58
benazoulaymaybe they change providersNov 14 22:58
_Goblinit'll be gone when people tire of it and find the latest "craze"....the mainstream tend to follow in packs, but their attention span is limited....no social networking is not a fad, facebook is thoughNov 14 22:58
benazoulaybut it is very useful to talk to friends and see people from around the countryNov 14 22:58
benazoulayor worldNov 14 22:58
MinceRgnNov 14 22:58
benazoulayit spikes collective knowledgeNov 14 22:58
oiaohmhttp://www.google.com/webmasters/gadgets/Nov 14 22:58
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_Goblingn mincerNov 14 22:59
oiaohmSo you don't know about Google Gadgets?Nov 14 22:59
oiaohmGoogle has not been like facebook.  Google has not done it stuff in exculsive ways.Nov 14 22:59
_Goblinbenazoulay:  whats wrong with IRC? thats social (as you are finding out at the moment)Nov 14 22:59
oiaohmYou can choose to host on google or there stuff will work on your own server.Nov 14 22:59
oiaohmhttp://code.google.com/webtoolkit/   This one of googles is kinda sneak.Nov 14 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Web Toolkit - Google Code .::. Size~: 10.17 KBNov 14 23:00
oiaohmYou use it you can place it on own site but it will link back to a google server so tracing.Nov 14 23:00
benazoulaywhy does google want to trace?Nov 14 23:01
_Goblin" it spikes collective knowledge" - I hope you are not talking about Facebook there.Nov 14 23:01
benazoulayi am goblinNov 14 23:01
benazoulaydont be a facebook hater lolNov 14 23:01
benazoulayits a good thingNov 14 23:01
_GoblinWhere do I say hate?Nov 14 23:01
_GoblinI don't get emotional over technology.Nov 14 23:02
sebsebsebFacebook sucks!Nov 14 23:02
_Goblinthats why not having a facebook account doesnt bother me at allNov 14 23:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: ...dataNov 14 23:02
benazoulayok true trueNov 14 23:02
benazoulayyou winNov 14 23:02
benazoulayi didnt see you said hate anywhere i got the vibe that your not a fan thoughNov 14 23:02
_Goblinnobody "wins"......I just have an opinion....Nov 14 23:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm? privacy issues you mean with Facebook or?Nov 14 23:03
benazoulaysebsebseb why does facebook suck?Nov 14 23:03
oiaohmbenazoulay: I take pride in only supporting companies that look after users and there data.Nov 14 23:03
schestowitz_Goblin: you don't have an account in over 1,000,000 sitesNov 14 23:03
schestowitzYOU ARE EXCLUDEDNov 14 23:03
_Goblinyeah...Nov 14 23:03
schestowitzFrom MySpace...Nov 14 23:03
_Goblinsorry about thatNov 14 23:03
schestowitzFrom FriendsterNov 14 23:03
schestowitz...Nov 14 23:03
_GoblinIm living on the fringes of society....Nov 14 23:03
oiaohmbenazoulay: facebook does not look after users.Nov 14 23:03
sebsebsebbenazoulay: since people that suck at computers, tend to majorly obbsessed  with Facebook for a startNov 14 23:03
schestowitzYou didn't join and flag some binaries to indicate you're "friends" with user #192329362Nov 14 23:03
_GoblinI think I'll go and have a smoke.....and a cry.Nov 14 23:03
oiaohmbenazoulay: My history with facebook is not great.  Finding infected sections of facebook can take over 400 days to get it removed.Nov 14 23:04
benazoulayhaha goblin'Nov 14 23:04
sebsebsebbenazoulay: and most of these users, won't keep their computer secure enough either, and so  SPAM and so onNov 14 23:04
schestowitzI like Identica (and  Twitter) thoughNov 14 23:04
oiaohmbenazoulay: are bad on responding on emails.Nov 14 23:04
schestowitzThat's not just flagging and booleansNov 14 23:04
benazoulayso is facebook weak in anyway?Nov 14 23:04
schestowitzThese are people who follow what you write, like subscribersNov 14 23:04
sebsebsebbenazoulay: and they are websites aimed at the ignorant  average consumer, big timeNov 14 23:04
oiaohmbenazoulay: google you have 4 hours.  If something on a google site is infected and you report it will be gone.Nov 14 23:04
sebsebsebbenazoulay: most of the computer people, don't like Facebook much it seemsNov 14 23:04
schestowitzThe sites which do just profile are like decorative profilesNov 14 23:04
schestowitzWith some symbolic status numbersNov 14 23:05
oiaohmbenazoulay: basically facebook does not spend the money on having enough system admins to maintain there site.Nov 14 23:05
schestowitzToiling away at adding as "friends" people whom they never meNov 14 23:05
schestowitzToiling away at adding as "friends" people whom they never mtNov 14 23:05
schestowitz*metNov 14 23:05
benazoulaybut it works the deliver their adsNov 14 23:05
benazoulayand make their cashNov 14 23:05
benazoulayso they have shitty customer serviceNov 14 23:06
benazoulayi hearNov 14 23:06
oiaohmmyspace was bad at 92 days max to get infections removed.Nov 14 23:06
benazoulayhmmNov 14 23:06
oiaohmfacebook is a new level of dispicable.Nov 14 23:06
sebsebsebhmm I have missed most of this chat so far, and it seems interesting, and there is a lot to catch up on as well hmmNov 14 23:06
benazoulaydoes anyone know how facebook is protected?Nov 14 23:06
sebsebsebso maybe someone want to summary it for me? so I can take part more properly in it already?Nov 14 23:06
benazoulayi did a patent search but it doesnt seem they patented the facebook model reallyNov 14 23:07
oiaohmIt really not.  benazoulayNov 14 23:07
benazoulayi dont think its patentableNov 14 23:07
oiaohmLot of what facebook is is clones of older products.Nov 14 23:07
benazoulaythen how are they so successful without someone else taking their throneNov 14 23:07
oiaohmThey took other companies thronesNov 14 23:07
hazzysebsebseb: benazoulay wants to access facebook apis to set up his own serviceNov 14 23:07
sebsebsebbenazoulay: Facebook sucks technically, but isn't as bad as say hotmail  by a long way,  and yes two completly differnet sitesNov 14 23:07
oiaohmSo sooner or latter the chair will move out from under facebook.Nov 14 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] CIA created 'safe haven' for Nazis following WWII, report finds. http://ur1.ca/2ck6bNov 14 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Cellphone's Missing Dot Kills Two People http://www.pop.is/1uldlNov 14 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Watching #TWiT live...usually I don't have time to do that. :)Nov 14 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I intend to do what little one man can do to awaken the public conscience,& in the meantime I am not frightened by your menaces."-Sinclair.Nov 14 23:08
oiaohmThe one thing that makes facebook unique is the idea of wanting photos of people to be shared openly.Nov 14 23:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CIA created 'safe haven' for Nazis following WWII, report finds - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News .::. Size~: 62.93 KBNov 14 23:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cellphone's Missing Dot Kills Two People .::. Size~: 0.72 KBNov 14 23:08
sebsebsebbenazoulay: Facebook is one of these sites, that take advantage of the ignoranance of the majority of people,  I mean those who think having loads of friends, is the best thing to do in lifeNov 14 23:08
oiaohmThe priors did not do that benazoulayNov 14 23:08
sebsebsebbenazoulay: the kind of people who,  will also  well just go along with the system, and not try and change stuffNov 14 23:08
sebsebsebfor example opensource/freesoftware is a way to try and change the system :)Nov 14 23:08
oiaohmBasically facebook is tech trash.Nov 14 23:08
sebsebsebthe system currently being well very propritaryNov 14 23:08
sebsebsebindeed @ oiaohmNov 14 23:09
oiaohmI guess you don't know geocities  benazoulayNov 14 23:09
benazoulayi heard of themNov 14 23:09
benazoulayits extinct as far as i knowNov 14 23:09
benazoulaygeocities the sites online?Nov 14 23:09
sebsebsebbenazoulay: there has been quite  a lot this year on the web  and such about Facebook's privacy issues as well this yearNov 14 23:09
oiaohmgeocities is dead.  benazoulayNov 14 23:10
sebsebseboiaohm: geocities was ok at the time I guess, but yep suckyNov 14 23:10
oiaohmgeocities is basically the one who started the idea.Nov 14 23:10
oiaohmOf what facebook is.Nov 14 23:10
sebsebseboh what?Nov 14 23:10
sebsebsebgeocities was a free website providerNov 14 23:10
schestowitzIt's still a torrentNov 14 23:10
oiaohmWith online site editor.Nov 14 23:10
schestowitz[geocities]Nov 14 23:10
benazoulaycan anyone program something to hook up to facebookNov 14 23:11
oiaohmSo people could make there own home sebsebsebNov 14 23:11
benazoulayand use their APINov 14 23:11
benazoulayto gather certain dataNov 14 23:11
benazoulayit shouldnt be that hardNov 14 23:11
oiaohmDue to the bugs in the API you can almost extract everything form facebookNov 14 23:11
sebsebsebbenazoulay: Facebook is also propritary, and now they even make a profit since they have so many users, and so if I was a developer, a volunter developer, I so woudn't make for Facebook :)Nov 14 23:11
benazoulayany idea of what kind of computers / costNov 14 23:11
benazoulayservers we need to spider it?Nov 14 23:11
oiaohmEven if it marked private.  benazoulayNov 14 23:11
benazoulayi sure you im not using this for malware or anythingNov 14 23:11
sebsebsebbenazoulay: I can't remember what its called, but there is a open source alternative to Facebook now as well :)Nov 14 23:11
benazoulayim looking to use the data provide a better service to usersNov 14 23:11
oiaohmI hunt malware.  benazoulayNov 14 23:12
*sebsebseb doesn't even trust Firefox add ons 100% to be honestNov 14 23:12
oiaohmSo yes I know where the flaws are in facebookNov 14 23:12
sebsebsebhence why if I am going to log into accounts,  I would do it on a browser without add ons, just in caseNov 14 23:12
oiaohmThey are big enough to drive a 12 lane highway threw and still have a forest of space on ech side.Nov 14 23:13
sebsebsebeven though the Firefox add ons I sometimes use,  have been around for quite a long time, and so are probably fine reallyNov 14 23:13
sebsebseb,but anyway  that and also Firefox having issues sometimes,  and yeah I tend to have two browsers open nowNov 14 23:13
sebsebsebFirefox and something else, the something else being Seamonkey at the momentNov 14 23:13
oiaohmAnyone in secuirty knows a basic rule.Nov 14 23:14
oiaohmEverything is flawed.Nov 14 23:14
benazoulaywell i dont need anymore information from facebookNov 14 23:14
oiaohmThe question is not if something contains a flaw or not.   The question is how many.Nov 14 23:14
benazoulaythan wwhat hey openly offer in their APINov 14 23:14
oiaohmAnd how bad.Nov 14 23:14
benazoulayi mean, they offer a lotNov 14 23:14
sebsebseboiaohm: flawed as in any program can have securuity issues? well surely there are exceptions to that I mean if  they are really basic programs for exampleNov 14 23:14
oiaohmsebsebseb: even a simple program can be used wrong to create a flaw.Nov 14 23:15
sebsebsebalso Facebook add ons, can steal data off  people and such yesNov 14 23:15
*sebsebseb would rather have a clean Facebook without add onsNov 14 23:15
sebsebsebanywayNov 14 23:15
sebsebsebadd ons for Facebook tend to suckNov 14 23:15
oiaohmNote I said everything was flawed.  Not every program has secuirty issues.Nov 14 23:15
sebsebsebaltough I have a fewNov 14 23:15
benazoulayhow would you approach extracting and spidering the dataNov 14 23:15
benazoulayonto my own serversNov 14 23:15
benazoulayvia the facebook APINov 14 23:16
sebsebsebbenazoulay: uh this channel isn't here, to help you steal, other peoples dataNov 14 23:16
oiaohmRemember humans are flawed and they are using the program.  sebsebsebNov 14 23:16
benazoulayhahahNov 14 23:16
benazoulaylolNov 14 23:16
benazoulaymaybe i should be more transparentNov 14 23:16
benazoulayi intend to access facebooks event dataNov 14 23:16
sebsebsebbenazoulay: also most of us here, don't like FacebookNov 14 23:17
sebsebsebif not all of us, regular onesNov 14 23:17
benazoulayand then use their event data in a new way that will make more events accesible to people that like those kind of eventsNov 14 23:17
benazoulaythat is a truly believe -- a very noble thingNov 14 23:17
sebsebsebbenazoulay: anyway I think there is a Facebook channel on the networkNov 14 23:17
benazoulayi am not interested at all in "stealing" data that is even close to being privateNov 14 23:17
oiaohmReally you have to be very careful collecting and maping event data benazoulayNov 14 23:17
benazoulaypeople make events and post them on facebook because they desire to make them as public as possibleNov 14 23:17
benazoulayall is well in this causeNov 14 23:18
oiaohmYou can become a stalkers best friend.  benazoulayNov 14 23:18
benazoulaybut do any of you here like music?Nov 14 23:18
sebsebsebbenazoulay: yep there is, and I have known about it for a  while or whatever, but I think this is the first or second time I join itNov 14 23:18
benazoulayor going out to concerts, bars, restaurants?Nov 14 23:18
sebsebsebbenazoulay: #facebookNov 14 23:18
oiaohmOr a debt collectors.  benazoulayNov 14 23:18
benazoulaywoudl you like to better know what organizations on computer science is happenign in your area?Nov 14 23:18
benazoulayor if there are other people like you living in your area, so you can enjoy each other on a day to day basisNov 14 23:19
oiaohmYes I have used facebook api for a debt collector to track events particular people who owe money are going to.Nov 14 23:19
benazoulayotherwise you would have only met by mistakeNov 14 23:19
ziggyfishI hate morningsNov 14 23:19
oiaohmNothing more fun then recliaming a car while they are in a event.  benazoulayNov 14 23:19
oiaohmAnd being standing there with a repoed note then they get out.Nov 14 23:19
sebsebsebok it was fun at first and all when I saw it, but is benazoulay sort of trolling now?Nov 14 23:19
schestowitznoNov 14 23:19
benazoulayOIAHM that is much more sensitive that my causeNov 14 23:20
benazoulaylolNov 14 23:20
benazoulaystalking people to pay their money back hahaNov 14 23:20
sebsebseboh Facebook oh FacebookNov 14 23:20
sebsebsebthe lame Facebook the lame FacebookNov 14 23:20
benazoulayhahahahNov 14 23:20
benazoulayhahah mate your hilariousNov 14 23:21
benazoulaythats so fucked up and funnyNov 14 23:21
benazoulayone of those bad humor thingsNov 14 23:21
benazoulaylol...they post "im going shopping"Nov 14 23:21
benazoulayand the debt collector claims the carNov 14 23:21
_Goblinright back....Nov 14 23:21
sebsebseboh how lame and popular you are, but most stuff that is lame and popular, is well lame and popularNov 14 23:21
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/14/ireland-economic-crisisNov 14 23:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Ireland's young flee abroad as economic meltdown looms | World news | The Observer  .::. Size~: 84.11 KBNov 14 23:21
sebsebseboh Facebook you and all your consumer sheeps, how fun you must be having it, oh FacebookNov 14 23:22
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schestowitzIssue is sometimes not people giving away dataNov 14 23:22
sebsebseboh Facebook how  most of them love you soNov 14 23:22
sebsebseboh FacebookNov 14 23:22
schestowitzBut theiir friends doing soNov 14 23:22
schestowitzSo they can impose lack of privacy upon peersNov 14 23:22
schestowitzGoogle StreetView is another issueNov 14 23:23
benazoulayhow do their friends expose them?Nov 14 23:23
benazoulayexplain?Nov 14 23:23
schestowitzThink laterallyNov 14 23:23
schestowitzPeople mention peopleNov 14 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Nikkular Almost caught up on my wordcount! huzzah! <go Nik! !NaNoWriMoNov 14 23:23
schestowitzAnd put photos of more than themselves upNov 14 23:23
sebsebsebbenazoulay: personally  I don't like Facebook much at all, for various reasonsNov 14 23:23
benazoulayif you were to make social network betterNov 14 23:23
benazoulaywhat would you do different SEBNov 14 23:23
sebsebsebI would get rid of them :DNov 14 23:23
benazoulayoh come onNov 14 23:24
benazoulaydont be anti-evolutionNov 14 23:24
sebsebsebFacebook and Twitter are consumer sitesNov 14 23:24
sebsebsebreally popularNov 14 23:24
sebsebsebsites like that, that are really popular tend to suck, because  well  the average computer user sucksNov 14 23:24
oiaohmSocial networking the way I use it is not exactly great.Nov 14 23:24
_GoblinIts actually a good question.....I don't though see Facebook as an evolution of "social networking"....I was doing it in the 80's with BBS's.Nov 14 23:24
oiaohmI do secuirty auditing of businesses.Nov 14 23:24
sebsebsebone reason I like identica :) plenty of proper true computer people on it, who know what they are on about when it comes to  computers :)Nov 14 23:25
oiaohmLot of peoples passwords can be guessed from the data they place on facebook.Nov 14 23:25
oiaohmOr at least work out the ones with the password passwordNov 14 23:25
sebsebsebbenazoulay: plus I can't just sign up on Twitter, since some one else has been usign this name on there for over a year, so I am not sure what I will sign up with insteadNov 14 23:25
sebsebsebbenazoulay: stuff that is main strame when it comes to tech tends to suck in some way or the other,  but also stuff that is tryign to go main strame, I mean look at Ubuntu since 9.04Nov 14 23:25
benazoulaywhre is this identicaNov 14 23:25
oiaohmbasically I do social engineering.   benazoulayNov 14 23:26
sebsebsebbenazoulay: identica is like Twitter, but for open source people and such :)Nov 14 23:26
oiaohmThis is where you use social data to control outcomes.Nov 14 23:26
oiaohmPeople are very reckless on the information they give up.Nov 14 23:26
_Goblinand I think if you look past hype and peer group pressure of being involved in things like Facebook, you have to ask yourself, who really would be interested in family shots and personal details of me..?  Its merely posturing, showing off with photo's and "proving" yourself as having more worth because you have lots of "friends"Nov 14 23:26
sebsebsebhmm maybe I should email click about identica :DNov 14 23:26
oiaohmTwitter is about directing people to stuffNov 14 23:26
sebsebsebso they can mention identica on BBC Click as wellNov 14 23:27
_GoblinahhhNov 14 23:27
oiaohmtwitter is almost usless to me for social engineeringNov 14 23:27
_GoblinclickNov 14 23:27
sebsebsebhowever it would only be breif in that case on webscapeNov 14 23:27
sebsebsebthey love going on about Facebook and Twitter on that showNov 14 23:27
oiaohmGreat they are interested in all these topics.Nov 14 23:27
oiaohmmost people pick there passwords from there history.Nov 14 23:27
sebsebsebno wonder I don't like Twitter that much at the moment, other than the name issue, even though I have never used it, aye?Nov 14 23:27
_GoblinBBC Click - what a worthless piece of garbage.Nov 14 23:28
oiaohmPeople on facebook have a bad habit of talking about there history.Nov 14 23:28
schestowitzMicrosoft bbc CliqueNov 14 23:28
sebsebsebwell going on the twitter site, for whatever reasons before, doesn't really count as using Twitter, unless logged in and actsaully using itNov 14 23:28
_GoblinBBC Click is like IT news through a BBC information firewallNov 14 23:28
schestowitzbbc DROOLNov 14 23:28
schestowitzbbc gruntNov 14 23:28
sebsebseb_Goblin: well last week was good, they were mentioning botnets again :)Nov 14 23:28
schestowitzclick, drool, and gruntNov 14 23:28
sebsebseband I haven't seen the latest one yet, but its about smart phone security and what notNov 14 23:29
sebsebsebor whateverNov 14 23:29
benazoulayhow often is oiaohm and sbe seb and goblin and dr. s   on this irc?Nov 14 23:29
sebsebsebbenazoulay: why?Nov 14 23:29
_Goblinsebsebseb: Im surprised if they knew what one was.Nov 14 23:29
sebsebsebbenazoulay: also if I am going to take an age guess your about 17 years old?Nov 14 23:29
benazoulayi really like this conversationNov 14 23:29
_Goblinwe mostly come at night.......mostly ;)Nov 14 23:30
benazoulayits fun and very resourceful to talk to people so knowledgeable and intouch with the technologies we have todayNov 14 23:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: well last year, they had the botnets experiment/showNov 14 23:30
_Goblinand if you can name that movie you get a prize.Nov 14 23:30
benazoulayits a very special place i just lande donNov 14 23:30
oiaohmMine is mixed.Nov 14 23:30
sebsebseb_Goblin: and it was questionable about if what they had done was legal or not, since they had bought access to a botnet, to then show people what can happenNov 14 23:30
benazoulayand i would like to be able to recreate this intellectual converstaionNov 14 23:30
benazoulaysometime againNov 14 23:30
benazoulayis there anyway you will agree to stay in touch?Nov 14 23:30
benazoulaylike skype group or e-mailsNov 14 23:30
_Goblinwe are all usually here.Nov 14 23:30
benazoulayive ruled out facbeook since you all hate itNov 14 23:30
_Goblintim.openbytesNov 14 23:30
benazoulayand twitter lolNov 14 23:30
sebsebsebbenazoulay: this channel is publically logged as wellNov 14 23:30
_Goblinooh..."hate" don't like that wordNov 14 23:31
sebsebsebbenazoulay: so many old logs of these kind  of chats and so on as well :D and well much more to come yetNov 14 23:31
oiaohmQuestion is cheating allowed?  Ie making the movie?   _GoblinNov 14 23:31
benazoulaydon't support*Nov 14 23:31
benazoulaysorrry gobNov 14 23:31
benazoulaylinNov 14 23:31
sebsebsebbenazoulay: how did you find us anyway?Nov 14 23:31
benazoulayi searchedNov 14 23:31
schestowitzbenazoulay: does anyone here hate twitter?Nov 14 23:31
oiaohmThe virus war is evolving.Nov 14 23:31
benazoulayfor how to protect software api patentNov 14 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay, !gentoo universe was missing my posts for quite a while, but they appeared on planet !gentoo…Nov 14 23:31
schestowitzQuite a few of us have active twitter accountsaNov 14 23:31
sebsebsebbenazoulay: searched for what?Nov 14 23:31
benazoulayor somethign close to thatNov 14 23:31
benazoulayand then read Dr. S's articleNov 14 23:31
oiaohmBot these days are starting to run honeypots to collect how they are being counteredNov 14 23:31
_Goblinit was for the quote "mostly come at night" - If you name that correctly you win a prize...Nov 14 23:31
benazoulayand then wanted to talk to him about this tuffNov 14 23:31
sebsebsebbenazoulay: see that notice above?  thats from identicaNov 14 23:32
benazoulaythen i landed on this chatNov 14 23:32
oiaohmhoneypot tech use to be a white/grey only tech.Nov 14 23:32
oiaohmNow the black side is using it as well.Nov 14 23:32
sebsebsebschestowitz: I get the impresson that benazoulay is quite youngNov 14 23:32
schestowitzdoesn't matterNov 14 23:32
benazoulay21Nov 14 23:32
benazoulayto be exact sirNov 14 23:32
sebsebseboh 21Nov 14 23:32
sebsebsebfrom where?Nov 14 23:32
_Goblinoh to be 21 again....Nov 14 23:32
benazoulaySan Diego State University sirNov 14 23:32
oiaohmYes young.Nov 14 23:33
schestowitz_Goblin: "when I was a lad.."Nov 14 23:33
sebsebseb_Goblin: oh I was not that long ago,  and  well it wasn't a good year at allNov 14 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Tutorials | How to Configure Wireless on Any Linux Desktop | Linux.com http://ping.fm/06mMiNov 14 23:33
_Goblin:)Nov 14 23:33
hazzyHasn't happened yet for me :PNov 14 23:33
sebsebsebhazzy: how old are you?Nov 14 23:33
hazzy19Nov 14 23:33
benazoulayhazzy whre are you located?Nov 14 23:33
oiaohmWhen was 21 I still thought it would be possible to make a good computer virus.Nov 14 23:33
benazoulayim in San Diego, CANov 14 23:33
hazzyMichiganNov 14 23:34
sebsebsebok good no 14 year olds or something like that, here yet :)Nov 14 23:34
_GoblinI look 16....Nov 14 23:34
benazoulayyou in college ou there haz?Nov 14 23:34
_Goblinbeen told so by my mother. ;)Nov 14 23:34
oiaohmbenazoulay: as you get older you get wiser.Nov 14 23:34
hazzyNah, I probably will when I get more moneyNov 14 23:34
oiaohmYou know the old saying sebsebseb 14 year old on line suspect police.Nov 14 23:34
_Goblinoiaohm: I think Im the exception that proves the rule then.Nov 14 23:34
benazoulayas you get older you know more to use intuitively in lifeNov 14 23:34
sebsebsebalso as people get older, they make more stupid misakes, especially for some if depressed at the timeNov 14 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @edythemighty: James Blunt stopped World War 3 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11753050Nov 14 23:34
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benazoulaytherefore you make more informed decisionsNov 14 23:35
benazoulayif you are depressed go buy SAM-E from your local storeNov 14 23:35
oiaohmbenazoulay: have you ever done any secuirty auditing?Nov 14 23:35
benazoulayits a seratonin boosterNov 14 23:35
benazoulayhelps quite wellNov 14 23:35
benazoulayI was for a short timeNov 14 23:35
hazzyNot meNov 14 23:35
sebsebsebhazzy: not you what?Nov 14 23:35
hazzyDepressedNov 14 23:35
oiaohmBasically what is legal hacking into systems with permission to find out if they are flawed.Nov 14 23:35
benazoulayNo, I don't do security auditian oiNov 14 23:36
*sebsebseb was quite depressed between July 2008 and Januarary 2009Nov 14 23:36
benazoulaywell sebseb, get SAM-ENov 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to @quadricode for editing http://ur.ly/ut4E http://ur.ly/ufOu (new pages)Nov 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @quadricode #Knuth talks about free software and draws a good analogy between software and mathematical proofs http://is.gd/h50ZKNov 14 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] At #CiviCRM Session in #BADCamp. Dave Greenberg is leading the first session which is a broad introduction to CiviCRMNov 14 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mathematica - Techrights .::. Size~: 13.92 KBNov 14 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wolfram Research - Techrights .::. Size~: 11.9 KBNov 14 23:36
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sebsebsebbenazoulay: get what?Nov 14 23:36
benazoulaymy mothers a great doctor, you will be happy afterNov 14 23:36
oiaohmbenazoulay: it would pay before building a site that is near facebook to at least do web level.Nov 14 23:36
_Goblinsebsebseb: I was quite depressed when I saw the last episode of series one of V this morning....it wasn't very good.Nov 14 23:36
benazoulaySAM-E its a mood supplement it helps i swear to godNov 14 23:36
benazoulay25$ at the store no anti depressant medical bullshitNov 14 23:37
benazoulaythat US Drug companies push for profitsNov 14 23:37
sebsebseb_Goblin: series what?Nov 14 23:37
_GoblinVNov 14 23:37
hazzybenazoulay, what DJ software do you use? Ableton?Nov 14 23:37
benazoulayits a natural supplement for despresionNov 14 23:37
_Goblinthe scifi series.Nov 14 23:37
benazoulayDr. S probably knows ofitNov 14 23:37
oiaohmbenazoulay: because you can 100 percent bet one of the bot masters will check you site for flaws to try to infect more.Nov 14 23:37
benazoulayI use SeratoNov 14 23:37
benazoulayWell I have been trying to get your emailNov 14 23:37
benazoulayfor your helpNov 14 23:37
benazoulaybut you choose to stay invisibleNov 14 23:38
benazoulaylolNov 14 23:38
hazzyOh, you wanted a spider?Nov 14 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Watch a 7-hour train ride through Norway set entirely to electronic music (io 9): http://on.io9.com/dusG1bNov 14 23:38
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oiaohmThere are a lot of natural supplements for despresionNov 14 23:38
*sebsebseb benazoulay reminds me of myself in certain ways, when I was a bit younger, and not that long ago in fact, hmmNov 14 23:38
oiaohmbenazoulay: you know about cocoNov 14 23:38
benazoulaythey worked for me thats all i am sayingNov 14 23:38
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benazoulaywhat do you do seb seb?Nov 14 23:39
sebsebsebnot much at the momentNov 14 23:39
benazoulaygood life you winNov 14 23:39
benazoulaylolNov 14 23:39
oiaohmI use coco.  These days chocolate was too weight gaining.Nov 14 23:39
benazoulayhahahNov 14 23:39
benazoulayisnt COCO a programming languageNov 14 23:39
*sebsebseb actsaully what am I on about, I wasn't as bad as benazoulay when I was younger :DNov 14 23:40
schestowitzCoco is a name for Apple's CEONov 14 23:40
benazoulayhahahahahahahaNov 14 23:40
benazoulayahahahahahNov 14 23:40
schestowitzAnd Microsoft's is cocko the monkeyNov 14 23:40
benazoulaythats fucking hilariousNov 14 23:40
oiaohmReally coming here I use to keep my dyslexia in check.Nov 14 23:40
benazoulayHow old are you OI?Nov 14 23:41
sebsebsebbenazoulay: hes 95Nov 14 23:41
sebsebsebdude oiaohm you might be dead soon, stop wasting the last part of your life on IRC :DNov 14 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz RT @quadricode #Knuth talks about free software and draws a good analogy between software and mathematical proofs http:/ ...Nov 14 23:41
oiaohm1974  sebsebsebNov 14 23:41
sebsebseboiaohm: yeah well you know I was joking :)Nov 14 23:42
schestowitzLike the song...Nov 14 23:42
benazoulayis identica a freindfieed account?Nov 14 23:42
oiaohmIf I was 90 I most likely would be still here for some part of the day.Nov 14 23:42
benazoulayim looking to find mroe smart computer peopleNov 14 23:42
oiaohmIf I don't want to lose my mind to dyslexiaNov 14 23:42
sebsebsebbenazoulay: uhmm your on FreenodeNov 14 23:42
benazoulaywhere shall I find some that will share their contact info with me!Nov 14 23:42
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIK5F4zRN0YNov 14 23:42
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oiaohmOr have not lost my mind other ways.Nov 14 23:42
sebsebsebbenazoulay: many smart computer people on hereNov 14 23:42
benazoulayI need some baller programmersNov 14 23:42
Ender2070chocolate won't be safe too much longerNov 14 23:42
Ender2070enjoy it while you canNov 14 23:43
benazoulayofcourse but I cannot reach you when you are not hereNov 14 23:43
_GoblinIm only 16 http://openbytes.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/2i6hy1f.jpgNov 14 23:43
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benazoulayI have a project I am working on veriy seriously and would really appreciate all the helpNov 14 23:43
sebsebsebbenazoulay: yes you can, but I am not just going to say how :DNov 14 23:43
benazoulayI can get, ofcourse, points on the project will be given to those soonNov 14 23:43
benazoulaystock pointsNov 14 23:43
benazoulaythat is if it is technically possible which so far seems greatNov 14 23:43
oiaohmIf you have not worked out my handle is highly uniqueNov 14 23:43
benazoulayBUT its easiily copyable so i am trying to figure outNov 14 23:43
oiaohmSo I am fairly simple to find.Nov 14 23:43
sebsebsebbenazoulay: oh you use Windows 7?Nov 14 23:44
oiaohmNow my real world name is a lot harder.Nov 14 23:44
sebsebsebbenazoulay: yay Firefox :)Nov 14 23:44
Ender2070he doesNov 14 23:44
Ender2070hes a windows userNov 14 23:44
Quadrescencewinders*Nov 14 23:44
*schestowitz opens a windowNov 14 23:44
sebsebsebbenazoulay: we mainly go on about something called  Linux here, and well stuff to do with it :DNov 14 23:44
oiaohmI just deleted my last NTFS partition last night.Nov 14 23:44
sebsebseboiaohm: :)Nov 14 23:45
benazoulayah i seeNov 14 23:45
Quadrescencealso it is Vista 7Nov 14 23:45
oiaohmIts only has not been used in 10 years.Nov 14 23:45
benazoulaywell you also know a hell of a lot about everything elseNov 14 23:45
benazoulayin computersNov 14 23:45
benazoulayin factNov 14 23:45
schestowitzoiaohm: NTFS... is that like 90s tech?Nov 14 23:45
schestowitzWe're past 2010 Virginia !!!Nov 14 23:45
oiaohmI forgot it was still on the harddriveNov 14 23:45
oiaohmand I kinda run out of space.Nov 14 23:45
sebsebsebbenazoulay: yes we are compuer geeks here, most/all of usNov 14 23:45
hazzyI should make an identi.caNov 14 23:46
schestowitzg33ksNov 14 23:46
sebsebsebbenazoulay: and schestowitz is a sort of famous computer geekNov 14 23:46
schestowitzhazzy: yeahNov 14 23:46
oiaohmMy current job is turning an android phone into a tracking device.Nov 14 23:46
schestowitzTell me which handle,. I'll add you to the botNov 14 23:46
benazoulaywhy is shestowitz a famousNov 14 23:46
benazoulaytahts got to be illegalNov 14 23:46
oiaohmbenazoulay:  I am not exactly lacking in the famous side.Nov 14 23:46
oiaohmLots of people know me.Nov 14 23:47
_Goblinneither am I.....Nov 14 23:47
_GoblinIm an internet sex symbolNov 14 23:47
benazoulayI sense something here that is specialNov 14 23:47
benazoulayits like hollywood for computer peopleNov 14 23:47
benazoulayonlineNov 14 23:47
oiaohmBut I did change my handle in the year 2000 to get away from somethings I had done.  benazoulayNov 14 23:47
benazoulayyour probably badass thenNov 14 23:47
benazoulaycool.Nov 14 23:47
oiaohmYes schestowitz is famous in a good way.Nov 14 23:47
benazoulaylolNov 14 23:47
oiaohmDefine bad ass.  I never have done anything illegal.Nov 14 23:48
benazoulayoh...Nov 14 23:48
benazoulayi thought thats why you changedNov 14 23:48
benazoulayyour handleNov 14 23:48
_Goblinoiaohm: " Define bad ass. " - Piles?Nov 14 23:48
schestowitz[23:47] <_Goblin> Im an internet sex symbol   < radio superstarNov 14 23:48
_GoblinlolNov 14 23:48
benazoulayhaha bad ass can mean very coolNov 14 23:48
oiaohmBut due to careful use of contracts I caused one of the largest computer system shutdowns without being illegal.Nov 14 23:48
benazoulayor very cool in an illegal wayNov 14 23:48
benazoulayeither way is bad assNov 14 23:48
schestowitzbenazoulay: Just don't tell this to a gurkNov 14 23:48
schestowitzbenazoulay: Just don't tell this to a girlNov 14 23:49
schestowitzBad typo there..Nov 14 23:49
benazoulayhahaNov 14 23:49
hazzyschestowitz: 'hazzy', it is!Nov 14 23:49
benazoulayi will not tell any girls that they are bad assNov 14 23:49
sebsebsebhazzy: I am on there as wellNov 14 23:49
schestowitz"Don't my ass look fat, honey?"Nov 14 23:49
benazoulayhazzy, you are from us, are you a programmer also?Nov 14 23:49
sebsebsebhazzy: under this nameNov 14 23:49
schestowitz"No sweetheart, it's BAD"Nov 14 23:49
oiaohmAlso the tech I used back before 2000 would still work today.  benazoulayNov 14 23:49
hazzyI dabbleNov 14 23:49
hazzyI know Python, C, and Javascript fairly fluentlyNov 14 23:50
oiaohmThe location was shutdown for 14 days.   benazoulayNov 14 23:50
benazoulayon a business standpoint OI, what can I do to protect my facebook api + other big api mashup?Nov 14 23:50
benazoulayhow can i protect it from being copiedNov 14 23:50
benazoulayand then after that, from being raped by hackersNov 14 23:51
benazoulayi need someone like you who knows securityNov 14 23:51
oiaohmProblem of designing highly destructive tech.  And giving it to a PHD in IT who beleived what I had designed was impossible.Nov 14 23:51
oiaohmSo they tried it on a open network.Nov 14 23:51
oiaohmThank god it did not get to the internet.Nov 14 23:51
benazoulaythats def. bad assNov 14 23:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: added him to the thing yet?Nov 14 23:52
benazoulaybut i bet you can masterfully keep hackers out of anywhereNov 14 23:52
sebsebsebhazzy: subscribe to me, and I subscribe to you, and once schestowitz adds you as well,  our messages to each other will appear here :)Nov 14 23:52
oiaohmReally auditing is the key to keeping hackers out.Nov 14 23:52
hazzyOk, coolNov 14 23:52
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benazoulayhazzy, you are from us, are you a programmer also?Nov 14 18:48
sebsebsebhazzy: under this nameNov 14 18:48
schestowitz"No sweetheart, it's BAD"Nov 14 18:48
oiaohmAlso the tech I used back before 2000 would still work today.  benazoulayNov 14 18:48
hazzyI dabbleNov 14 18:48
hazzyI know Python, C, and Javascript fairly fluentlyNov 14 18:48
oiaohmThe location was shutdown for 14 days.   benazoulayNov 14 18:48
benazoulayon a business standpoint OI, what can I do to protect my facebook api + other big api mashup?Nov 14 18:49
benazoulayhow can i protect it from being copiedNov 14 18:49
benazoulayand then after that, from being raped by hackersNov 14 18:49
benazoulayi need someone like you who knows securityNov 14 18:49
oiaohmProblem of designing highly destructive tech.  And giving it to a PHD in IT who beleived what I had designed was impossible.Nov 14 18:49
oiaohmSo they tried it on a open network.Nov 14 18:50
oiaohmThank god it did not get to the internet.Nov 14 18:50
benazoulaythats def. bad assNov 14 18:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: added him to the thing yet?Nov 14 18:50
benazoulaybut i bet you can masterfully keep hackers out of anywhereNov 14 18:50
sebsebsebhazzy: subscribe to me, and I subscribe to you, and once schestowitz adds you as well,  our messages to each other will appear here :)Nov 14 18:51
oiaohmReally auditing is the key to keeping hackers out.Nov 14 18:51
hazzyOk, coolNov 14 18:51
oiaohmbenazoulay: there are a lot of good fuzzing tools these days for websites.  benazoulayNov 14 18:51
benazoulaylook i want you on my teamNov 14 18:51
oiaohmThat stess the site design and make sure its not flawed.   benazoulayNov 14 18:51
benazoulaydo i have to go to england to find youNov 14 18:51
oiaohmI am in Australia.  benazoulayNov 14 18:52
hazzyHahaNov 14 18:52
benazoulaylmaoNov 14 18:52
oiaohmI like the place.Nov 14 18:52
benazoulayhahahhNov 14 18:52
benazoulayi forgotNov 14 18:52
benazoulaykeep thinking mate is UKNov 14 18:52
benazoulaynot australiaNov 14 18:52
oiaohmfirst time schestowitz really got to know each other was when a group of pricks tried to slam boycottnovell out of existance.Nov 14 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140 I think #firefox 4 is going to have better QT supportNov 14 18:53
oiaohmdinal of service attack.  benazoulayNov 14 18:53
oiaohmNo matter what you do attackers will come.Nov 14 18:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: add  hazzy to the thing, so I can message him already, and it appearing here :)Nov 14 18:53
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benazoulayOI, what do I need to do in order to make a server that will be setup with facebook apiNov 14 18:54
sebsebsebbenazoulay: uh ask in #facebookNov 14 18:54
benazoulayand get the infomration i want from api, no python or anythingNov 14 18:54
benazoulayjust standard callbackNov 14 18:54
benazoulayi am saying how would you handle itNov 14 18:54
sebsebsebbenazoulay: /join #facebokNov 14 18:54
benazoulayserver-load, structureNov 14 18:54
sebsebseb#facebookNov 14 18:54
benazoulaywhat is #facebook?Nov 14 18:55
hazzyYou need a programming language to be able to parse the dataNov 14 18:55
sebsebseba channel for FacebookNov 14 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @mohanpram I sure hope so. Right now, Firefox stinks for other-than-Gnome desktops.Nov 14 18:55
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hazzyEh, schestowitzNov 14 18:56
sebsebsebhazzy: yep we lost himNov 14 18:56
sebsebseband the logNov 14 18:56
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hazzyNoesNov 14 18:56
hazzyOh, wowNov 14 18:57
hazzy"Ubuntu Server changing from Bash to Canonical's newly-written Synergy shell."Nov 14 18:57
benazoulayok so what language would be appropriateNov 14 18:57
sebsebsebhazzy: bots are still here though, but I thought he hosted those as wellNov 14 18:57
benazoulayi know faceboook is in html5 which is basicNov 14 18:58
benazoulayor fhtmlNov 14 18:58
hazzyPythonNov 14 18:58
sebsebsebhazzy: oh whats this?Nov 14 18:58
sebsebsebhazzy: more Ubuntu only stuff?Nov 14 18:58
benazoulaybut the way they describe it in developerNov 14 18:58
hazzysebsebseb: News on identi.caNov 14 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Suing Blind and One Legged Pirates is Bad PR http://tinyurl.com/27jgdrp !tpb !bittorrent !piracy !copyright !ipNov 14 18:58
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sebsebsebhazzy: where ubuntu group orsomething?Nov 14 18:58
hazzysebsebseb: "Popular notices"Nov 14 18:58
hazzybenazoulay: Hold on, checking documentationNov 14 18:59
hazzybenazoulay: They give an example in PHPNov 14 19:00
hazzyPHP is tougher to learn than PythonNov 14 19:00
sebsebsebso maybe the current stuff won't go into the public logNov 14 19:00
benazoulaypython...hmmNov 14 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Death Rally - Death in the Fast Line // gets re-released for free! run it on Wine whatever distro you have! http://tinyurl.com/2w4f6c6Nov 14 19:01
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_Goblin2.7.1 RC1 got its release on saturdayNov 14 19:02
_Goblin(of Python)Nov 14 19:02
benazoulayso how would you do itNov 14 19:02
hazzyYou'll likely get the Facebook information in JSON formatNov 14 19:02
hazzySoNov 14 19:02
hazzyhttp://docs.python.org/library/json.htmlNov 14 19:02
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benazoulayso then i get it in json!Nov 14 19:03
benazoulaysorry for !Nov 14 19:03

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