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| ml2mst | Wow, Tim and Roy invited me for an interview, yet whe had technical problems | Nov 20 00:00 |
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| sebsebseb | ml2mst: yes I can do an interview as well, but Skype is the thing at the moment, and not asked someone here about that yet | Nov 20 00:00 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: I mean he uses it sometimes, so maybe I can borrow his lap top, and do it, for example | Nov 20 00:00 |
| ml2mst | Don't worry, we will do the interview some day. | Nov 20 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | I would talk about Mandriva and Mageia, and why I am intersted in those, and what I will be doing for Mageia, and such | Nov 20 00:01 |
| ml2mst | Obviously TechBytes is just doing fine. | Nov 20 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | altough Mageia is stlil quite well wait and see, no ISO just yet | Nov 20 00:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @alpvonkri ¿Y qué usé para recuperar el !Windows Server 2000? Obviamente... !Linux... TE AMO !LINUX | Nov 20 00:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] flag and block ftw, just needed to notice that "Remote profile options" popup on rollover to find it. i am "safe" from spam again. :) | Nov 20 00:05 | |
| ml2mst | It's not Roy's problem. I have quite a lot of computers in my livingroom, that produce a lot of background noise. I have to shut them down next time | Nov 20 00:06 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: oh whats the tech problem you got? | Nov 20 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Hi, ml2mst | Nov 20 00:07 |
| sebsebseb | as to why you can't just do the interview? | Nov 20 00:07 |
| ml2mst | Like I already wrote, the sound my computers produce. | Nov 20 00:08 |
| sebsebseb | Which is what kind of sound? | Nov 20 00:08 |
| ml2mst | @Shestowitz: Hi Roy. I figured out, why there was such a lot of background noise. | Nov 20 00:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Scotland A 25 - 0 USA Eagles !rugby | Nov 20 00:09 | |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: can we use your track? | Nov 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | Like RMS on the 4 freedoms? | Nov 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | The mix | Nov 20 00:09 |
| schestowitz | We can play your tracks to promote them sometimes | Nov 20 00:09 |
| ml2mst | All my music is Creative Commons - share alike attrition - licensed. | Nov 20 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Fascinating story of Thomas trying to build a CD-ripping robot out of Lego - http://is.gd/hrJh1 | Nov 20 00:10 | |
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| schestowitz | [22:24] <Ender2070> Is it a daily thing? | Nov 20 00:10 |
| ml2mst | CC-BY-SA is compatible with GPL ;-) | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | At the current pace we can do like 365 hours per year :-) | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: you're the sound expert | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you can do us an opening sound effect that says techbytes | Nov 20 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Before we play the theme song | Nov 20 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Just some sort of audio sig/branding | Nov 20 00:12 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 20 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Going to start moving away from this identi.ca account in favour of @ry@n.rix.si ... Just have to figure out how to export !identica posts.. | Nov 20 00:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] #CreativeCommons means the "potential beginning of an infinite number of wonderful futures." Have you supported CC yet? http://bit.ly/9BUJjn | Nov 20 00:12 | |
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| schestowitz | "Muito obrigado a @laurelrusswurm e @schestowitz por compartilharem "The story of electronics". Um vídeo obrigatório: http://ur1.ca/2duue "http://identi.ca/notice/58944150 | Nov 20 00:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bpglobalpr/@bpglobalpr] BPGlobalPR: BP has pledged 75 million dollars towards the 40 billion dollar cleanup cost. #makingitright http://bi... http://ping.fm/3qFkM | Nov 20 00:14 | |
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| ml2mst | Schestowtiz: that shouldn't be a problem, what do you want? | Nov 20 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/19/caption-contest-steve-ballmer-goes-on-kill-crazy-rampage-at-mic/ !!! | Nov 20 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | Censored | Nov 20 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Picture gone | Nov 20 00:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | aww | Nov 20 00:14 |
| ml2mst | Rock, pop. hardrock, new-age trance? | Nov 20 00:14 |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: maybe some Hollywood announcer type naming the show with some nice effect | Nov 20 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | NORWEIGEN DEATH METAL | Nov 20 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH | Nov 20 00:15 |
| schestowitz | To kick off the thing on a strong note | Nov 20 00:15 |
| *Diablo-D3 SMASHES SHIT WITH A GUITAR | Nov 20 00:15 | |
| schestowitz | You can smash it with your show | Nov 20 00:15 |
| schestowitz | *shoe even | Nov 20 00:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hmm when it comes to the #identica website for repeating messages, why is the only option RT? I haven't sent any of my RT's to #twitter. | Nov 20 00:15 | |
| ml2mst | I don't have the technology for that (I'm afraid) I use text-to-speech most of the time | Nov 20 00:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not death metal if shit isnt smashed with a guitar | Nov 20 00:15 |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: ask ThistleWeb and _Goblin | Nov 20 00:16 |
| schestowitz | which genre | Nov 20 00:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I hope that #Toshiba stopped providing only pre-install recovery disks… they seem to be utter crap. | Nov 20 00:17 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh talking about trolls in episode 5 :d | Nov 20 00:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb only option where? | Nov 20 00:19 | |
| ml2mst | <Diablo-D3>: LOL :-) | Nov 20 00:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc2-git6 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 20 00:22 | |
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| ml2mst | The solution is very simple: I simply make a couple of tunes and then the TechBytes team simply chooses their prefered theme. | Nov 20 00:22 |
| schestowitz | ok, sounds good | Nov 20 00:25 |
| schestowitz | We mostly need the name of the show called out | Nov 20 00:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ready to break some necks in Modesto with my bros in Severed Fifth - be there! http://is.gd/hrLpS #severedfifth | Nov 20 00:25 | |
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| ml2mst | That shouldn't be a problem ;-) | Nov 20 00:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Both options, weird character or RT for #pino, or only RT for #identica website, unless put weird symbol in myself. | Nov 20 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] @sebsebseb I still don't understand what you're trying to say | Nov 20 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Seattle Times, which is the main Microsoft boosting 'publication', uses copyright for censorship, to save #Ballmer PR http://is.gd/hra5W | Nov 20 00:30 | |
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| ml2mst | OK I'm out of here for tonight. Got work to do :-) | Nov 20 00:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII Astroturf your domestic gov... RT @actonline: ..Mike Sax testifies at... hearing on trade in digital marketplace / #corruption #act | Nov 20 00:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] S$639 for the Toshiba AS100 (adroid 2.2) at harvey norman. Worth it? #fb | Nov 20 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @FFII De Gucht: ACTA won't harm free software #freesoftware #acta http://bit.ly/d8RdMH > really? #swpats #itc | Nov 20 00:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @bruce89 Two ways to RT on #identica website that only has a button for one of the ways, but can also type in the repeate character/symbol. | Nov 20 00:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @osamak Not one I care about. Do you think I need to add that to the (already rather long) boilerplate? | Nov 20 00:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @NeelieKroesEU @timberners_lee Web critical not merely to digital revolution but to continued prosperity—and even our liberty | Nov 20 00:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Enough work.... Off to bed..... | Nov 20 00:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz NeelieKroes hot cougar, uh ? ;-D | Nov 20 00:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Note to self: setting Firefox for shared NSS database means #Chrome now accepts #CACert… good! | Nov 20 00:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] And the #Motorola earphones I'm using on the iPod, great as they are for podcasts, are shitty for music… | Nov 20 00:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] New !StopUBB post: "The FCC, the CRTC and NetFlix" http://ur1.ca/2dvr8 !Canada #cdnpoli #CRTC #UBB #Net_Neutrality | Nov 20 00:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I have just finnished listening to !techbytes episode 5 which I quite enjoyed, the chat and the music at the end. | Nov 20 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | gn | Nov 20 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok night | Nov 20 01:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 10: #Microsoft FUD and Dirty Tactics Against !GNU !Linux http://is.gd/hrUBz http://is.gd/hrUDW | Nov 20 01:30 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok so it wasn't quite gn for you then :D ^ | Nov 20 01:31 |
| ThistleWeb | eeGods that was quick in getting the ep out | Nov 20 01:32 |
| ThistleWeb | I expected to see it in the morning | Nov 20 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: eeGods? | Nov 20 01:33 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a Discworld thing | Nov 20 01:33 |
| ThistleWeb | discworld humour | Nov 20 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | Whats discworld? | Nov 20 01:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @ender2070 how about a lemote !yeeloong? even the “BIOS” is Free Software! | Nov 20 01:34 | |
| ThistleWeb | eegods is just a kinda "OMG" | Nov 20 01:34 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a series of novels by terry pratchett | Nov 20 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 20 01:34 |
| ThistleWeb | very funny, very english style of humour | Nov 20 01:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Awaiting Dave Matthews & co. in Charlottesville w/Max. Opening act Trombone Shorty from NOLAwas awesome. | Nov 20 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] OK, I am done for the day - have a great weekend, folks! | Nov 20 01:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] GtkStatusIcon is to be deprecated in GNOME, so it looks like there is going to be a hell of a fight between AppIndicator and libnotify | Nov 20 01:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] No time to get back to anyone tonight...sorry! Been very busy recording et al.... | Nov 20 01:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fresh off the presses, ep 10 of !TechBytes is available now; we had fun recording it, enjoy http://bit.ly/dnqqOS | Nov 20 01:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] And to my friends in #techrights (and everywhere else)! Good night! | Nov 20 01:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn I think it's a bit of a stretch, for binaries are pretty much useless when they fall in the public domain. why grant © then? | Nov 20 01:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @schestowitz: Respect Freedom, Not Pragmatism http://is.gd/hnpyF I never thought of it like this. /RD brilliant! | Nov 20 02:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz copyrights are also monopolies. unfair, unnecessary and harmful too | Nov 20 02:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @nileshgr Thanks a lot, :) http://bit.ly/9dNkpN | Nov 20 02:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn yep, we have to push for laws for software similar to customer protection laws that establish a right for service portability | Nov 20 02:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @laurelrusswurm /me adds “Professional procrastinator” to resumé ;-) | Nov 20 02:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @aurele: @nomalab you can free your archlinux with the !parabola migration page in the wiki. You just to pacman -U our repo | Nov 20 02:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The whole GNOME-Ubuntu API confusion thing risks pissing off 3rd party developers | Nov 20 02:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: LOL: "This page is best viewed with your monitor switched on. " | Nov 20 02:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I won't say anything more on the subject in case @speeddefrost unsubscribes again | Nov 20 02:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Anyway, best not use my stroppiness up just now, I'll need it at about 16:00 tomorrow | Nov 20 02:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] LibreOffice Is Taking Shape With Third Beta http://ur1.ca/2dwjj | Nov 20 02:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @pedroarthurjedi: O M$ Windows está fazendo hoje 25 anos. O auge da comemoração será show do Restart (via @aperteoalt) | Nov 20 02:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Incidentally, I don't mean to be rude at any point. Unless you're a Tory of course | Nov 20 02:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @osamak are you conflating descriptive and perscriptive ethics? http://philosophy.lander.edu/ethics/types.html | Nov 20 03:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "[...] the peaceful road to change in countries where governments ignored the inalienable rights of the people." http://velvetrevolution.us/ | Nov 20 03:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #csi | Nov 20 03:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @pookito Looks good! :) | Nov 20 04:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] firing up clisp... | Nov 20 04:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] multiple windows in emacs, identica erc eshell and a .lisp file, I'm obviously nearly in tears :P | Nov 20 05:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] hacking some C code to add a bit of needed functionality to an app. Thank you Open Source! | Nov 20 05:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @lxoliva the link isn't accessible, but wp has a nice description. http://ur1.ca/2dxuc | Nov 20 06:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fabsh oh, right! tbh, I don't usually read full names. :-) I know you as 'fab' and him as 'methoddan'. | Nov 20 06:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Pilots to be exempted #TSA http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101120/ap_on_bi_ge/us_airport_security_pilots | Nov 20 07:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] It isn't going to work, #TSA. You're going to have to back off on this. No one wants the #nudescan. | Nov 20 07:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @pensadorlouco Muito obrigado a @laurelrusswurm e @schestowitz por compartilharem "The story of electronics". Um vídeo obrigatório: h ... | Nov 20 07:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @lxoliva Yeah, “Professional Procrastinator” could be a whole subsection of my resumé | Nov 20 07:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] My_Arch_screenshots.0 by ~andarinyo http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/screenshots/nix/#/d336xeb | Nov 20 07:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Have the Pearl in hand. I'll let you know how it goes. | Nov 20 07:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Waitukubuli National Trail, Dominica « besthike.com blog http://besthike.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/waitukubuli-national-trail-dominica/ | Nov 20 07:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Attention Localizers, big changes ahead for SUMO http://bit.ly/aVA6zt | Nov 20 07:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Analyze Your Search Behavior http://mzl.la/bvZ6A9 | Nov 20 07:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] GNU !social was also mentioned in @timbl's paper, "Long Live the Web" http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=long-live-the-web | Nov 20 07:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Can't get rid of "The long and winding road" playing in my head since yesterday night. Don't know why (at least it's a good one) | Nov 20 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Geek's Handbook - Chapter 1: How to Deal with Users: http://goo.gl/i01s8 | Nov 20 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Zeitgeist adds more data providers, speeds up, will appear in !GNOME Shell and gets a dedicated #MeeGo dev http://goo.gl/Hqv2X | Nov 20 08:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: !Unity Place People – Day 2 http://goo.gl/Ck1OS | Nov 20 08:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Samsung zice http://j.mp/cCdftU că nu e bine să bagi card-ul MicroSD în telefoane Windows, că nu-l mai poți folosi apoi în alte device-uri! | Nov 20 09:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Wow, I just found out about !newsbeuter's 'o','1','2',etc. shortcuts. I used to highlight the link & open it in Firefox manually. #stupidme | Nov 20 09:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pla1: Archos 101 Internet tablet http://is.gd/hrxsm http://is.gd/hrxrT #android #gnu #linux | Nov 20 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 key featurs intro video - http://www.redhat.com/promo/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux6/rhel6_video1.html #fb | Nov 20 09:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wordofcomputer: Routers are not perfect http://word-of-computer.blogspot.com/2010/11/router-denial-of-service-attacks.html | Nov 20 09:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jonobacon: New Ubuntu Patch Pilot scheme will make reviewing new patch contributions quicker - http://is.gd/hrCP3 #ubuntu #locoteams | Nov 20 09:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @debian: Following #Debian via microblogging - #ndn - http://news.debian.net/2010/11/20/following-debian-via-microblogging/ | Nov 20 09:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @jonobacon: Fascinating story of Thomas trying to build a CD-ripping robot out of Lego - http://is.gd/hrJh1 | Nov 20 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @trela: #Fedora contributors please take the time to vote in the running elections: http://bit.ly/97T1mF - it's important ! | Nov 20 09:10 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sandro Mathys » Fedora elections vote! .::. Size~: 11.4 KB | Nov 20 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @harishpillay Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 key featurs intro video - http://www.redhat.com/promo/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux6/rhel6_video1 ... | Nov 20 09:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @rsandu ♺ @trela: #Fedora contributors please take the time to vote in the running elections: http://bit.ly/97T1mF - it's important ! | Nov 20 09:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @nizarus Guide vidéos d’ubuntu pour les débutants http://is.gd/ht0Ar !ubuntu !ubuntutn | Nov 20 09:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Guide vidéos d’ubuntu pour les débutants | Tutoriels-Video .::. Size~: 49.46 KB | Nov 20 09:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Meego, #AMD, #SlashDot http://is.gd/ht3Rl | Nov 20 09:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | AMD Joins Intel's MeeGo OS Effort .::. Size~: 146.69 KB | Nov 20 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright Expansion Through Misinformation Has Gone On A Long Time... And It Involved Pimps & Ferrets - http://bit.ly/bJ88jF ah, #ferrets | Nov 20 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Copyright Expansion Through Misinformation Has Gone On A Long Time... And It Involved Pimps & Ferrets | Techdirt .::. Size~: 23.26 KB | Nov 20 09:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Congress Isn't So Concerned With TSA Nude Scans & Gropes: They Get To Skip Them - http://bit.ly/96Dtqt them & us #democracy | Nov 20 09:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Congress Isn't So Concerned With TSA Nude Scans & Gropes: They Get To Skip Them | Techdirt .::. Size~: 66.33 KB | Nov 20 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows Phone blochează cartelele #MicroSD http://is.gd/ht5lA #windows #microsoft #wp7 #mobile | Nov 20 09:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Escribiendo a los EstadoUnidenses http://is.gd/ht6Il #es #uspto #swpats #america #microsoft | Nov 20 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva yes, harder to abolish | Nov 20 09:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Why Congress Isn't So Concerned With TSA Nude Scans & Gropes: They Get To Skip Them - http://bit.ly/96Dtqt them & us #demo ... | Nov 20 09:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #Copyright Expansion Through Misinformation Has Gone On A Long Time... And It Involved Pimps & Ferrets - http://bit.ly/bJ8 ... | Nov 20 09:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: UE trebuie sa garanteze neutralitatea internetului http://bit.ly/cq8Z8Z #eu #net | Nov 20 09:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Spent fair time without opening a gettext file. Just updated #update-manager's Arabic translation to be included in Debian 6.0 | Nov 20 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] More vendor lock-in! "Windows Phone Locks-in MicroSD Cards" http://www.ghacks.net/2010/11/13/windows-phone-locks-in-microsd-cards/ #fb | Nov 20 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] [AUDIO] Marketing agresiv Microsoft împotriva GNU/Linux http://is.gd/ht9ki #microsoft #gnu #linux #fud | Nov 20 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Doublecheck: fcrontab's “5m” is not “5 minutes” =_= | Nov 20 10:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Brand Dilution: “Seattle Creates Their Own ODF” http://is.gd/htamQ #odf #opendocument | Nov 20 10:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 3,000-Year-Old Conch Trumpets Play Again - http://bit.ly/a7Y9Mu I do like a bit of conch trumpet in the morning #music #archaeology #peru | Nov 20 10:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unpacking the Oracle and AWS Rumor - http://bit.ly/cZvf9V let's hope this one isn't true #oracle #aws #amazon | Nov 20 10:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @MeeGoConference: Miss a talk? Not able to attend #MeeGoConf? Videos are being posted now & rest of week: http://bit.ly/bbm4b8 !MeeGo | Nov 20 10:17 | |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: can you find that censored ballmer image? | Nov 20 10:19 |
| schestowitz | With the big scissors? | Nov 20 10:19 |
| schestowitz | I want to post that | Nov 20 10:20 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4196/brisk.jpg | Nov 20 10:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Allegation: “W3C (Microsoft) Kills Web SQL” http://is.gd/htdTR #W3C #Microsoft #db | Nov 20 10:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2010/11/18/2013468057.jpg | Nov 20 10:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @novitro: Guvernul renunţă la forfetar, iar microîntreprinderile ar putea plăti 3% impozit pe venit http://bit.ly/avBc8I | Nov 20 10:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Guvernul renunţă la forfetar, iar microîntreprinderile ar putea plăti 3% impozit pe venit | Ziarul Financiar .::. Size~: 20.45 KB | Nov 20 10:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Brand Dilution: “Seattle Creates Their Own ODF” http://is.gd/htamQ #odf #opendocument @rcweir | Nov 20 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @aprilorg: Le 20 nov est une journée importante pour l'April, car c'est l'anniversaire de sa création http://www.bonjourapril.fr !april | Nov 20 10:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: Argos getting in on Android tablets - now selling Dell Streak and Galaxy Tab - http://bit.ly/bofdQk #android #argos #dell | Nov 20 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Seattle Times Uses Copyright Law for Censorship, to Defend Steve Ballmer http://is.gd/hth95 #SeattleTimes #propaganda #microsoft | Nov 20 10:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Allegation: “W3C (Microsoft) Kills Web SQL” http://is.gd/htdTR #W3C #Microsoft #db #gnu #linux #sql #free #standard | Nov 20 10:54 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Seattle Times Uses Copyright Law for Censorship, to Defend Steve Ballmer | Techrights .::. Size~: 89.42 KB | Nov 20 10:54 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Nov 20 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Hi MinceR | Nov 20 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @motters: French police choose Ubuntu http://is.gd/hthI1 | Nov 20 11:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: French Gendarmerie switch 85,000 PCs to Ubuntu and save €€€ | WiredVC | Venture Capital and Funding News .::. Size~: 32.48 KB | Nov 20 11:00 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Mozilla also had worries over WebSQL Opera was the biggest pusher for it. Mozilla is working along the lines that javascript it self sould be able todo the SQL queries instead. | Nov 20 11:03 |
| MinceR | i think sql should just hurry up and die already | Nov 20 11:05 |
| oiaohm | I don't mind postgresql. MinceR | Nov 20 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Stored procedures on databases do have there place. | Nov 20 11:06 |
| MinceR | i don't mind rdbms-es except for m$ sql and perhaps oracle | Nov 20 11:07 |
| MinceR | but the language is pretty stupid | Nov 20 11:07 |
| MinceR | and there were more usable languages, they just never took off | Nov 20 11:07 |
| oiaohm | I don't find orcales mysql or postgresql sql languages bad. | Nov 20 11:12 |
| oiaohm | mssql seams to be designed to drive you nuts. MinceR | Nov 20 11:12 |
| oiaohm | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/external-pl.html | Nov 20 11:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PostgreSQL: Documentation: Manuals: PostgreSQL 8.4: Procedural Languages .::. Size~: 6.02 KB | Nov 20 11:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Generates Massive Patent Troll Which Strikes Again http://is.gd/htkn7 #swpat #extortion #patents | Nov 20 11:14 | |
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| oiaohm | Even with all the langueges Postgresql support I still end up using there sql a lot. MinceR | Nov 20 11:14 |
| MinceR | to me m$sql seems to be designed to gobble up all available resources | Nov 20 11:20 |
| MinceR | same for oracle | Nov 20 11:20 |
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| *Balzac is now known as squarepeg | Nov 20 11:20 | |
| oiaohm | oracle one has a few options that stop it from gobbling up all resources. | Nov 20 11:22 |
| oiaohm | oracle over aggressively caches by default. MinceR | Nov 20 11:23 |
| oiaohm | Fairly simple to fix when you know the options to tweek. | Nov 20 11:23 |
| oiaohm | mssql there is nothing I can do it help it. Its language has many weakness that force toxic code to be used. | Nov 20 11:23 |
| oiaohm | And the C# optional replacement on mssql is more a secuirty risk. | Nov 20 11:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tim BL: Open Standards Must be Royalty-Free - http://bit.ly/av3URd important defence of key idea #openstandards #rf #web | Nov 20 11:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Parties Use Influence To Halt Anonymous’ Operation Payback - http://bit.ly/anfCgW smart move #operationpayback #piracy | Nov 20 11:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pirate Parties Use Influence To Halt Anonymous Operation Payback | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 43.21 KB | Nov 20 11:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vikings brought first native American to Europe - http://bit.ly/d3bUWA amazing mitochondria #vikings #america #dna | Nov 20 11:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Short Sharp Science: Vikings brought first native American to Europe .::. Size~: 59.39 KB | Nov 20 11:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "..let's take a moment to focus on the sheer breadth of Bill Gates' achievement.." http://ur1.ca/2dzfn #ms #propaganda #maintainingillusion | Nov 20 11:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows at 25: A tech king with growing competition | Microsoft - CNET News .::. Size~: 225.72 KB | Nov 20 11:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] India's policy orders software patent holders to give up any royalty rights. http://ur1.ca/2dzgw #swpats | Nov 20 11:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: India mandates open IT standards as fears grow over EU policy - 11/19/2010 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 72.04 KB | Nov 20 11:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] LibreOffice Is Taking Shape With Third Beta. http://ur1.ca/2dwjj !floss !fs | Nov 20 11:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice Is Taking Shape With Third Beta - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 68.44 KB | Nov 20 11:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Global Village Construction Set is an open hardware initiative. http://ur1.ca/2dzhr | Nov 20 11:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] EU Worst Lobbying Award. http://ur1.ca/2dzi6 #lobbyocracy | Nov 20 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] so, since I installed !statusnet on my server, my load has been insane. I can't even ssh into it now. wtf? | Nov 20 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why is it that in the 21st century people still try to fit a parental model to the universe, e.g. sky daddy, mother nature, star compassion? | Nov 20 11:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/5939820752797696 "Small point, fair use protects parody, not humour, and afaict, engadget ran the picture without credit to Seattle Times." | Nov 20 11:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Work of Cuban Medical Brigade Acknowledged in Chile. http://ur1.ca/2dzie !cubanews | Nov 20 11:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope yes, parody is a subset of humour (I was being broad). As for attrib. - they could add it. | Nov 20 11:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] The ebook revolution has begun! Just bought two Oyos for my parents... | Nov 20 11:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @satipera: India's policy orders software patent holders to give up any royalty rights. http://ur1.ca/2dzgw #swpats | Nov 20 11:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: India mandates open IT standards as fears grow over EU policy - 11/19/2010 - Computer Weekly .::. Size~: 72.04 KB | Nov 20 11:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh my folks would never have looked at a reader, yet we're sold within seconds when seeing mine "in the flesh" | Nov 20 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Billions in Marketing Can't Help #Microsoft Sell Hardware http://is.gd/httFY #kin #kinect #wp7 | Nov 20 12:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Billions in Marketing Cant Help Microsoft Sell Hardware | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.87 KB | Nov 20 12:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Underwire film festival, London - http://is.gd/htu2n | Nov 20 12:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] playing around with !navit on #maemo, #n810 and #n900 and #meego, would be nice to have a canola/carman-like navit dashboard | Nov 20 12:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc2-git7 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 20 12:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mein Gott, diese Thalia online Verwaltung ist die totale Kacke! Bin froh, dass ich einen Kindle hab!! | Nov 20 12:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wayne Crookes is Trying to Destroy the Internet by Bullying http://is.gd/htw5X #censorship #crook #p2pnet | Nov 20 12:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] TaxPayersAlliance the parent group of Big Brother Watch seeks advice from Tea Party movement leaders http://ur1.ca/2dzpt #frontgroups | Nov 20 12:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wayne Crookes is Trying to Destroy the Internet by Bullying | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.67 KB | Nov 20 12:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wasting a good crisis - http://bit.ly/96TEyO useful background to Irish situation from @jjn1 | Nov 20 12:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Memex 1.1 » Blog Archive » Wasting a good crisis .::. Size~: 24.34 KB | Nov 20 12:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Damn, I have some problems with text-to-speech, will try on Gnome again (installed Mbrola, Festival and Espeek) nothing works ATM :-( | Nov 20 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Need it for the TechBytes tunes I prommised last night to make. Oh well, don't worry I will get it to work one way or the other ;-) | Nov 20 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I've voted. How about you? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting #fb | Nov 20 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ahh dammit wokeup early on a Saturday! #bummer | Nov 20 13:22 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Nov 20 13:23 |
| schestowitz | Hello | Nov 20 13:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Guten Tag | Nov 20 13:26 |
| oiaohm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD9T03qsFuo Interesting video schestowitz | Nov 20 13:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Munich Open-Source-Treffen next Friday features talk by !tdf founding member @floeff - http://www.opensourcetreffen.de !libo !osstreffen | Nov 20 13:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Start - Open-Source-Treffen .::. Size~: 3.91 KB | Nov 20 13:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Short Video Tour Of The Wayland Display Server: There's been a lot of talk lately about the Wayland Display Se... http://bit.ly/9E4pLZ | Nov 20 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My !HTC #Hero likes running out of memory | Nov 20 13:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] A Short Video Tour Of The Wayland Display Server .::. Size~: 17.86 KB | Nov 20 13:32 |
| oiaohm | http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/ubuntu.html Notice Nvidia does not support DRI2 schestowitz so wayland under X11 does not work either. | Nov 20 13:33 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] Andrew dropped off his xbox 360 as i’m selling it ‐ power brick is *insanely* huge, heavy too. Photos on the Internet don’t do it justice | Nov 20 13:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @carlopiana Peter #Frampton version? :-) | Nov 20 13:42 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I see... | Nov 20 13:48 |
| schestowitz | So boycott nvidia in a way | Nov 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz | ? | Nov 20 13:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA turns out to be a damp squib - http://bit.ly/cBH4Im an optimistic view from @technollama I'm not so sanguine #acta | Nov 20 13:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] David Kappos (USPTO Head) Declines to be Part of the ACTA Treaty Fiasco, Won’t Respond http://is.gd/htHXz #USPTO #acta #KareldeGucht | Nov 20 13:49 | |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: schestowitz Uh what's this, I just joined a little while ago | Nov 20 13:49 |
| oiaohm | Its more nvidia trying to claim to be linux supporting when really the are just doing the bar min. schestowitz | Nov 20 13:49 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Codepope/statuses/5951842592755712 "Post facto attribution was probably not considered sufficent remedy for commercially using a Seattle Times picture" | Nov 20 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / Dj Walker-Morgan: @schestowitz Post facto at ... .::. Size~: 12.63 KB | Nov 20 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Meh. | Nov 20 13:50 |
| oiaohm | http://www.chaosreigns.com/wayland/ubuntu.html Wayland in X cannot work on closed source Nvidia drivers due to no DRI2 support sebsebseb | Nov 20 13:50 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: have they not *always* done that? | Nov 20 13:50 |
| sebsebseb | Wulf|away: wayland in X? I thought wayland was meant to replace x? | Nov 20 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I think the BBC are confused http://ur1.ca/2e06z | Nov 20 13:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I think the BBC are confused http://ur1.ca/2e076 | Nov 20 13:50 | |
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| oiaohm | sebsebseb: in the process of leading up to replacing X you want to have a smooth transition. | Nov 20 13:51 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: So wayland allows itself to be placed inside X and X placed inside wayland. | Nov 20 13:52 |
| oiaohm | So as you migrate applications to wayland users don't lose access to applications. | Nov 20 13:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] John Does Win Big In Far Cry Case - http://bit.ly/bjpNUH interesting: more this goes through courts, the less dangerous it gets #copyright | Nov 20 13:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slyck News - John Does Win Big In Far Cry Case .::. Size~: 11.54 KB | Nov 20 13:52 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: but as per normal Nvidia is being a road block. | Nov 20 13:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] French Advocacy groups campaing against discriminatory IT procurements - http://bit.ly/b3tsvn shrewd move #fr #opensource | Nov 20 13:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FR: Advocacy groups campaing against discriminatory IT procurements — .::. Size~: 28.41 KB | Nov 20 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Installing !F14 on my old !Lenovo !T61p !Laptop to test !Spice anf to see if the !nvidia works !Linux !Fedora | Nov 20 13:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Reading #Ubuntu Font Family Licensing FAQ http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/FAQ.html #Baffling | Nov 20 13:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Aparentemente resolveu o problema de log in no MSN | Nov 20 14:00 | |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yes I read something about this, how x can be used inside wayland, and then can support the closed source Nivida drivers | Nov 20 14:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Warning: cellos, paintbrushes, sketchpads & cameras on UK Borders Agency’s list of suspicious items - http://bit.ly/9qqp4U philistine jerks | Nov 20 14:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warning: cellos, paintbrushes, sketchpads and cameras on UK Borders Agency’s list of suspicious items | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 48.42 KB | Nov 20 14:05 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: currently it don't work. | Nov 20 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Warning: cellos, paintbrushes, sketchpads & cameras on UK Borders Agency’s list of suspicious items - http://bit.ly/9qqp4U ... | Nov 20 14:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warning: cellos, paintbrushes, sketchpads and cameras on UK Borders Agency’s list of suspicious items | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 48.42 KB | Nov 20 14:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Tim BL: Open Standards Must be Royalty-Free - http://bit.ly/av3URd important defence of key idea #openstandards #rf #web | Nov 20 14:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: open...: Tim BL: Open Standards Must be Royalty-Free .::. Size~: 69.56 KB | Nov 20 14:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gijs The Ubuntu case study on #Gendarmerie (France) using their desktop system (pdf) http://ur1.ca/2du1a | Nov 20 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] would the !TSA be out of work if the world was one large nudist colony? | Nov 20 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @ruiseabra : exactly, & we mean royalty-free as in RF, not as in FRAND or RAND-Z... | Nov 20 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Arm readies processing cores for 64-bit computing http://ur1.ca/2e0cz | Nov 20 14:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arm readies processing cores for 64-bit computing | Hardware - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 97.37 KB | Nov 20 14:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Twitter gaffe: US embassy announces 'crazy bad' Beijing air pollution - http://bit.ly/ddmzmK you can breathe, but don't inhale #china #smog | Nov 20 14:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] LibreOffice package for Slackware available: ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/install/sys/ Now we're talking. #libreoffice #slackware | Nov 20 14:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter gaffe: US embassy announces 'crazy bad' Beijing air pollution | Jonathan Watts | Environment | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 166.06 KB | Nov 20 14:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Re-tweeting the revolution - http://bit.ly/9PGBVr "The war on terror is over. We lost." #twitter | Nov 20 14:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Re-tweeting the revolution - http://bit.ly/9PGBVr "The war on terror is over. We lost." #twitter | Nov 20 14:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] just donated to Groklaw | Nov 20 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kalahari Bushman appeals to African Commission - http://bit.ly/9b891s more injustice #kalahari #water #africa | Nov 20 14:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kalahari Bushman appeals to African Commission | GroundReport .::. Size~: 29.3 KB | Nov 20 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] OpenGL ES For KWin In KDE SC 4.7 Is Taking Shape: There's just about two months left until the release of KDE SC... http://bit.ly/dBB6Eu | Nov 20 14:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] NVIDIA CUDA 3.2 Toolkit Released: While NVIDIA should soon be releasing a new Linux graphics driver beta, for th... http://bit.ly/aKrE3a | Nov 20 14:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] OpenGL ES For KWin In KDE SC 4.7 Is Taking Shape .::. Size~: 17.48 KB | Nov 20 14:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] NVIDIA CUDA 3.2 Toolkit Released .::. Size~: 17.09 KB | Nov 20 14:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: right good news, one of the Mageia founders will probably talk on techbytes, but need to chat to the actsaul person first | Nov 20 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz David Kappos (USPTO Head) Declines to be Part of the ACTA Treaty Fiasco, Won’t Respond http://is.gd/htHXz #USPTO #acta # ... | Nov 20 14:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @agentsmith yes, truly sad that they can even think of sinking this low | Nov 20 14:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Kappos (USPTO Head) Declines to be Part of the ACTA Treaty Fiasco, Wont Respond | Techrights .::. Size~: 92.43 KB | Nov 20 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Happy 25th birthday, Windows! http://ur1.ca/2e0i4 And here we though only Mario Bros. turned 25 years! | Nov 20 14:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Happy 25th birthday, Windows! .::. Size~: 69.31 KB | Nov 20 14:39 |
| cubezzz | blah :-P | Nov 20 14:42 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: at me or? | Nov 20 14:42 |
| cubezzz | no windows | Nov 20 14:42 |
| sebsebseb | oh why you using that? | Nov 20 14:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm not using it... I'm scoffing at 'happy birthday windows' | Nov 20 14:46 |
| cubezzz | just yesterday I deleted XP off this box so I could put AROS on it | Nov 20 14:47 |
| cubezzz | not this box I'm using now, but another one | Nov 20 14:47 |
| sebsebseb | Happy Birthday Windows? | Nov 20 14:47 |
| cubezzz | from the bot | Nov 20 14:48 |
| cubezzz | yeah it's 25 years old | Nov 20 14:48 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: right, but uhmm | Nov 20 14:48 |
| sebsebseb | I mean realy the first proper version was Windows 3.1? | Nov 20 14:48 |
| sebsebseb | and hardly anyone used Windows 2.0 and what not? | Nov 20 14:48 |
| cubezzz | I did | Nov 20 14:49 |
| cubezzz | I evaluated it back in the 80's | Nov 20 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Nov 20 14:49 |
| cubezzz | and lots of people used 3.0 | Nov 20 14:49 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 20 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | well | Nov 20 14:50 |
| cubezzz | and the fire department around here used windows 1.0 believe it or not | Nov 20 14:50 |
| sebsebseb | most people in the developed word or at least people under say 60, didn't have a computer untill late 90's I guess | Nov 20 14:51 |
| cubezzz | personal computers were in stores starting in 1978 | Nov 20 14:52 |
| cubezzz | before that, you had to pretty much build one from a kit | Nov 20 14:52 |
| sebsebseb | right, but they were also rather expensive | Nov 20 14:53 |
| sebsebseb | so only some people had | Nov 20 14:53 |
| cubezzz | well high schools started to see PCs in the late 1970s so yeah i suppose young people got into it sooner, generally speaking | Nov 20 14:55 |
| cubezzz | we had access to Commodore PETs | Nov 20 14:56 |
| cubezzz | before that the students had to use punched cards | Nov 20 14:56 |
| cubezzz | and wait a day or two to see if their program worked | Nov 20 14:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Fear has overwhelmed justice, justice has overwhelmed mercy and the war on terror is over. We lost. http://icio.us/4vhq1b | Nov 20 14:57 | |
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| cubezzz | you could get a bare bones TRS-80 model 1 for about $799 in 1978 | Nov 20 14:58 |
| cubezzz | c64 was introducted at $595 | Nov 20 14:58 |
| cubezzz | introduced | Nov 20 14:59 |
| cubezzz | oh and there was that famous issue of Popular Science, Oct 1977 | Nov 20 15:00 |
| cubezzz | right on the cover it had the very first Commodore PET listed for $595 US dollars | Nov 20 15:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I need something cheap to smash to pieces… maybe I just found an use for the box of floppy disk drives I have… | Nov 20 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #HTC Sued Over Patents by Company Already in Court With #Microsoft http://is.gd/htUMN #swpats !linux | Nov 20 15:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay so I have ebuilds for c-icap and squidclamav… now I just need to set up a testing environment to make sure they work as intended… | Nov 20 15:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fail... http://ur1.ca/2e0tb | Nov 20 15:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] interesting. facebook says that there are 2,424,780 in singapore, indonesia 30,108,220, malaysia 8,893,160 aged >=13 on #fb. hmm. | Nov 20 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink Fear has overwhelmed justice, justice has overwhelmed mercy and the war on terror is over. We lost. http://icio.us/4vhq1b | Nov 20 15:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Venture Capitalists Want to Get Rid of #swpats , Pro-Patents Guy Commends “Smart Red Hat Employees” for Stance http://is.gd/htY12 #redhat | Nov 20 15:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Venture Capitalists Want to Get Rid of Software Patents, Pro-Patents Guy Commends “Smart Red Hat Employees” for Patent Stance | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.59 KB | Nov 20 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gijs Jean-Pascal Chateau, Commandant at Gendarmerie (FR): "Windows would cost us 2 million more than Ubuntu every year" http://ur1.c ... | Nov 20 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Oh how true. Thanks Tim! http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=long-live-the-web&print=true #fb | Nov 20 15:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Long Live the Web: Scientific American .::. Size~: 54.7 KB | Nov 20 15:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] New Facebook Messaging Continues to Block Some Links | Epicenter | Wired.com http://ur1.ca/2e0xe | Nov 20 15:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Facebook Messaging Continues to Block Some Links | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 78.82 KB | Nov 20 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast http://on.msnbc.com/bkwjYw | Nov 20 15:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthesis - News- msnbc.com .::. Size~: 115.43 KB | Nov 20 15:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @mohanpram: TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast http://on.msnbc.com/bkwjYw | Nov 20 15:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthesis - News- msnbc.com .::. Size~: 115.43 KB | Nov 20 15:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The Brain: The "Router" in Your Head—a Bottleneck of Processing | Learning | DISCOVER Magazine http://ur1.ca/2do02 | Nov 20 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: so how exactly is it going to replace email if it blocks links like that? It won't if you ask me. | Nov 20 15:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Brain: The "Router" in Your Head—a Bottleneck of Processing | Learning | DISCOVER Magazine .::. Size~: 59.62 KB | Nov 20 15:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Whitehat hacker's laptop, cellphones seized and searched http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10187 | Nov 20 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram exactly. it's as if FB is a watchdog for big brother | Nov 20 15:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Hard-Coding Bias in Google "Algorithmic" Search Results http://www.benedelman.org/hardcoding/ | Nov 20 15:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds yeah that's not good at all | Nov 20 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Like Democracy, the Web Needs To Be Defended http://ur1.ca/2e11i | Nov 20 16:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Like Democracy, the Web Needs To Be Defended .::. Size~: 149.89 KB | Nov 20 16:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I have just started listening to !techbytes episode 8 :) | Nov 20 16:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/Metztli_IT/status/5952974417305600 "Abstractions aren't “natural” for humans & reduction of the irrational phenomena to familiar terms helps in their apprehension?" | Nov 20 16:04 |
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| sebsebseb | oh thats what ThistleWeb sounds like :D | Nov 20 16:05 |
| sebsebseb | ok very Scottish | Nov 20 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] The Brain: The "Router" in Your Head—a Bottleneck of Processing | Learning | DISCOVER Magazine http://ur1.ca/2do02 (via @seeds) | Nov 20 16:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Brain: The "Router" in Your Head—a Bottleneck of Processing | Learning | DISCOVER Magazine .::. Size~: 59.62 KB | Nov 20 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram Frosted Leaf Orion http://is.gd/hu4SI | Nov 20 16:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: that has been one of my favorite one thus far. | Nov 20 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/11/19/0014218/Woz-Misquoted-About-Android-Dominating-IOS | Nov 20 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Apple Story | Woz Misquoted About Android Dominating IOS .::. Size~: 161.3 KB | Nov 20 16:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram yeah, same here | Nov 20 16:19 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Wine runs on Mac OS X as well by the way, you mention Wine in episode 8 and OS X | Nov 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 20 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Does pure wine for unix run on mac os x? | Nov 20 16:20 |
| schestowitz | I know that the proprietary versions do | Nov 20 16:20 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm whats on winehq.org they got a Mac version | Nov 20 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jonobacon I never realized just how awesome HTML5 is until I saw this: http://is.gd/holoE #html5 | Nov 20 16:20 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I was thinking about repeating that as well or whatever, but had to see it first | Nov 20 16:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Valleywag: Facebook Stalking Can Actually Kill You If You're Not Careful http://gawker.com/5694011/ // also see http://ur1.ca/2dok4 | Nov 20 16:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook Stalking Can Actually Kill You If You're Not Careful .::. Size~: 81.85 KB | Nov 20 16:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Scotland 21 - 17 South Africa !rugby | Nov 20 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tech investors call for patent reform - http://politi.co/bIcSfZ interesting straw in the wind (via @schestowitz) #swpats #vc | Nov 20 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Geek Gen X http://is.gd/hu8D5 / funny cause that's what I did too | Nov 20 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time Warner Balks At Subpoenas In Mass Copyright Suits - http://bit.ly/aJjriW now try scaling up to millions of sharers #copyright | Nov 20 16:34 | |
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| schestowitz | "TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] MSFT exec: "We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is at the end of its life cycle." http://is.gd/hp9TD #ROTFL" | Nov 20 16:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] load average: 5.95, 5.58, 5.36 → I wonder if I should set up the laptop to do some parallel compression as well… | Nov 20 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer MSFT exec: "We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS..." > it's not? Read the GPL, Microsoft. #fud | Nov 20 16:40 | |
| cubezzz | and microsoft windows is? | Nov 20 16:41 |
| cubezzz | pretty sillly argument | Nov 20 16:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Did you read the story? Are you familiar with the case? It does not need explaining if you have. And if you haven't, I'll not. | Nov 20 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Excerpt from Jay-Z's New Book 'Decoded': Cristal's Diss of Hip-Hop - TIME http://ur1.ca/2e1bw | Nov 20 16:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Excerpt from Jay-Z's New Book 'Decoded': Cristal's Diss of Hip-Hop - TIME .::. Size~: 51.78 KB | Nov 20 16:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The #Argos website is using #Flash for product pictures #CrapFlash | Nov 20 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: Are you going to do a video review if you do get one? | Nov 20 16:49 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yeah | Nov 20 16:50 |
| schestowitz | self-ownage | Nov 20 16:51 |
| cubezzz | I thought the Russians had a Linux distro of their own | Nov 20 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Good or bad news for #statusnet? Salesforce to offer free version of chatter - http://is.gd/hpH1P | Nov 20 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Every British soldier who gets killed is so amazing according to the press release I wonder why they were in the army. #unpopularpov | Nov 20 16:52 |
| schestowitz | hm,... | Nov 20 16:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Salesforce.com: Free stripped down Chatter on deck | ZDNet .::. Size~: 111.11 KB | Nov 20 16:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hm,... | Nov 20 16:52 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: they have severakl | Nov 20 16:52 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera they also like to portray them as "kids" when it suits the story #manipulation | Nov 20 16:53 |
| cubezzz | yes, ALT Linux for one | Nov 20 16:53 |
| cubezzz | trying Icaros 1.2.4 today | Nov 20 16:54 |
| cubezzz | should be interesting | Nov 20 16:55 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Am I the only person in Britain who thinks Fresh Prince is as racist as Love Thy Neighbour? | Nov 20 16:56 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: there are some older ones | Nov 20 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Not maintained as much | Nov 20 16:56 |
| Ender2070 | whoever is spreading the russian os myth is dumb | Nov 20 16:56 |
| Ender2070 | its a poorly done google translation from russian | Nov 20 16:56 |
| cubezzz | I see Fedora remix for Russians | Nov 20 16:56 |
| cubezzz | so there's two at least | Nov 20 16:56 |
| Ender2070 | i mean the microsoft statements | Nov 20 16:57 |
| Ender2070 | 'linux is a russion os' or whatever | Nov 20 16:57 |
| Ender2070 | bad translation | Nov 20 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram i never thought about that but i think i should consider that. thks | Nov 20 16:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods what a day Arsenal lost 2-3, Chelsea lost 1-0 and Man Utd win 2-0 \o/ - I'm unexpectedly thrilled #football | Nov 20 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: Nokia research lab builds touchscreen made of ice http://bit.ly/960YO0 | Nov 20 17:00 | |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, the main AROS blog is available in english and russian | Nov 20 17:02 |
| cubezzz | so you have to figure Russians are into alternative OSes | Nov 20 17:02 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, state runs OS | Nov 20 17:03 |
| cubezzz | Iceland and Finland seem to be two Linux strongholds | Nov 20 17:08 |
| cubezzz | at least more so than other countries | Nov 20 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds :D don't forget to send me a link | Nov 20 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/58421887#notice-58979974 "The words "stripped down" stand out enough to not make me worry about #statusnet" | Nov 20 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: not sure | Nov 20 17:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] India boosts IT companies with Open Standards - Europe to be left behind? http://blogs.fsfe.org/gerloff/?p=420 | Nov 20 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gbraad Great to see this! #Fedora popularity is gaining http://is.gd/huf8b Time to work more on our ambassadors! | Nov 20 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] Ron Wyden, you are my hero. Finally, someone who looks out for the people, instead of business interests! http://is.gd/hufix | Nov 20 17:14 | |
| schestowitz | in terms of market share | Nov 20 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | What's at Iceland that's Linux? | Nov 20 17:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram cool | Nov 20 17:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon now offers the ability to gift eBooks for other people's Kindles : http://amzn.to/9o9fyd | Nov 20 17:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Intel: 1,000-core processor possible (ITworld): http://bit.ly/9WFT8X | Nov 20 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] Could someone point me to an article that would explain why #emacs over other editors | Nov 20 17:29 | |
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| cubearos | ok, got latest and greatest Icaros working on this box now | Nov 20 17:30 |
| cubearos | finally | Nov 20 17:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemor/@freemor] Wedging #Feather linux on a machine with just 32mb of ram | Nov 20 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm Mine too... If I ever get around to writing it... should be working on Baldy now but am denting instead !nanowrimo | Nov 20 17:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @freemor yup #linux fits everywhere :) | Nov 20 17:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pope says condoms acceptable 'in certain cases' - http://bit.ly/a1o3Fo big shift from absolutism: beginning of sanity? (via @asteris) | Nov 20 17:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why Microsoft is Acorn and Symbian is the new CP/M • The Register http://bit.ly/aqiOXB | Nov 20 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux, FreeBSD: Little-Endian; Mac, Solaris: Big-Endian..... | Nov 20 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #Bluebloods is a real self righteous babylon show | Nov 20 17:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva would carry more weight with me if it was #BYSA and not #BYNCSA .... Freedom being so important and all.... | Nov 20 17:42 | |
| Ender2070 | hey cube | Nov 20 17:43 |
| Ender2070 | cubearos cubezzz | Nov 20 17:43 |
| Ender2070 | still around? i want your opinion on a netbook | Nov 20 17:44 |
| Ender2070 | you live in the same province too, so you'll know whats easy to obtain | Nov 20 17:45 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: uh I thought cubearos lived in USA? | Nov 20 17:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj Most smart people simply refuse 2 read documentation & will just mash on the keyboard until it appears 2 work http://bit.ly/aDVYJ1 | Nov 20 17:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ed Vaizey: 'My overriding priority is an open internet' - http://bit.ly/a3C4Bc "supports Net neutrality" - huh? really? (via @tom_watson) | Nov 20 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This missile defence shield nonsense just will not lay down. Corporate welfare for defence companies. Cheap and easy to overcome. | Nov 20 17:52 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Canada | Nov 20 17:53 |
| sebsebseb | not cubearos | Nov 20 17:53 |
| sebsebseb | cubearos: | Nov 20 17:53 |
| sebsebseb | uh cubezzz | Nov 20 17:53 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I guess cubearos is cubezzz as well | Nov 20 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://is.gd/hulN5 "Youtube video on TSA, as seen by the Japanese" --Quadrescence @ #techrights | Nov 20 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The biggest hurdle in FOSS/GNU/Linux adaptation http://is.gd/hunTq surprising answer. !gnu !linux | Nov 20 18:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana Paul Mc Cartney's, actually. :) | Nov 20 18:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz Can you repost that? I got a 404 | Nov 20 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | cubearos: Ender2070 ‘Misleading’ wireless ads put Rogers in hot water http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/rogers-ordered-to-pay-10-million-over-wireless-claims/article1806112/ | Nov 20 18:15 |
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| cubearos | hmmm? | Nov 20 18:16 |
| cubearos | oh used well Panasonic Toughbook off ebay | Nov 20 18:16 |
| cubearos | works perfectly on fedora | Nov 20 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @schestowitz: The biggest hurdle in FOSS/GNU/Linux adaptation surprising answer. !gnu !linux http://goo.gl/5HFvh | Nov 20 18:17 | |
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| cubearos | also Acer Aspire One | Nov 20 18:18 |
| cubearos | since tougbook isn't really a netbook | Nov 20 18:18 |
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| cubearos | bah, still getting used to airc | Nov 20 18:20 |
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| cubearos | :-P | Nov 20 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The biggest hurdle in FOSS/GNU/Linux adaptation http://is.gd/hupnB surprising answer. !gnu !linux //link corrected | Nov 20 18:22 | |
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| cubearos | locally the stores are hopeless but maybe Toronto is better | Nov 20 18:23 |
| cubearos | Acer Aspire One 150 is well understood by programmers | Nov 20 18:24 |
| cubearos | so good for alternative OSes | Nov 20 18:24 |
| cubezzz | also look at coreboot.org | Nov 20 18:26 |
| cubezzz | there's a few laptops that coreboot supports | Nov 20 18:26 |
| cubezzz | and imica is worth considering | Nov 20 18:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] "ICE's Partnership with Local Police Departments Leads to Migrants Quietly Disappearing" http://is.gd/hurxK | Nov 20 18:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] gonna head to queens to rip out ubuntu from family machine and revert to windoze. #fail | Nov 20 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT glynmoody Cancer surviving flight attendant forced to remove prosthetic breast during pat-down - http://bit.ly/cJxf8S we want this? | Nov 20 18:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !GNU !Linux is ready for mass adoption on desktops, but are vendors/ISVs/users ready? Gates & Microsoft indoctrinate them since 'school' | Nov 20 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Have a look at my current KDE4 desktop, using the IceCream QTCurve add-on theme." http://twitpic.com/38a68b // Shuttleworth and !KDE ? | Nov 20 18:37 | |
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| cubezzz | the | Nov 20 18:38 |
| cubezzz | reboot time on aros is amazing | Nov 20 18:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The Irish showing their sportsmanship by booing when the referee awards a penalty to NZ | Nov 20 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Ireland's tries from a foward pass and a knock on | Nov 20 18:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | The Linux Attribution Show http://bit.ly/9EnwSt | Nov 20 18:52 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: how many seconds? | Nov 20 18:56 |
| cubezzz | less than ten | Nov 20 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Years of unreviewed SPAM caught up w/ me. My email disk has been full for 36 hrs. Working now; resend if you got a bounce. !Conservancy !FSF | Nov 20 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Yeah, but no lipstick can hide bad designs. So far, it's the apps that attaches people to winblow$, not the OS. | Nov 20 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Poll: 25% of BetaNews Readers Are Desktop !GNU !Linux Users http://is.gd/huwlb | Nov 20 18:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Wow ! apparently !ManUtd has had 18 different scorers this season already (including "own goal") #mufc http://ur1.ca/2e2a0 | Nov 20 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz I probably won't be able to do a show tonight...got loads on and am on and off PC....Sunday is good though. | Nov 20 19:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #Facebook Messaging Continues to Block Some Links - http://bit.ly/a94wPU wow, how much clearer does it have to be? #censorship | Nov 20 19:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA: damp squid or mutant octopus? - http://bit.ly/dklmvG good points why it's still bad news for developing countries #acta | Nov 20 19:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Apple’s Closed Ways Could Land It Into Antitrust Trouble - http://tcrn.ch/aW2ay5 more pertinent by the day #apple #antitrust | Nov 20 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Off to the studio and then to Modesto to deliver a solid dose of Severed Fifth - tonight @ Fat Cat - http://is.gd/hrLpS #severedfifth | Nov 20 19:14 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi _Goblin | Nov 20 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Countries vote to accept execution of gays - http://bit.ly/byGh0V what on earth is the UN doing? (via @JosieLong @chrisblizzard) #un | Nov 20 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Not a bad weekend, Ireland and Wales beaten, Scotland win | Nov 20 19:19 | |
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| schestowitz | "@nsisodiya sez: We srsly need to blacklist proprietary driver & hardware from market & stop their sell (via @schestowitz http://is.gd/hupnB" https://identi.ca/notice/58984470 | Nov 20 19:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] If I'm correct, this puts Scotland into 6th place | Nov 20 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All 'Bout Children and DNA databases - http://bit.ly/d7cW3E sensible stuff #uk #dnadatabase | Nov 20 19:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 10 – 19/11/10 http://tinyurl.com/2d9n8dp | Nov 20 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: ..25% of Betanews readers are Linux PC users http://tinyurl.com/23c3ede | Nov 20 19:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] COICA and the War on Sharing http://ur1.ca/2e2fd | Nov 20 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @schestowitz wow, didn't think that some saw him as a background kind of hero! | Nov 20 19:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] There is a damn good chance that the laptop that Fedora doesn't like will get retired today. | Nov 20 19:29 | |
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| Ender2070 | [22:19] <schestowitz> cubearos: Ender2070 ‘Misleading’ wireless ads put Rogers in hot water http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/rogers-ordered-to-pay-10-million-over-wireless-claims/article1806112/ | Nov 20 19:31 |
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| Ender2070 | read it already :) | Nov 20 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | cubezzz im not looking for a laptop, I want something smaller but usable for reading and writing | Nov 20 19:32 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok, just checking | Nov 20 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @glynmoody world getting more psycho man | Nov 20 19:32 | |
| Ender2070 | and cheap as hell | Nov 20 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Latest openssl update breaks Tor: http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Nov-2010/msg00132.html. | Nov 20 19:34 | |
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| Ender2070 | ill probably end up just using my old palm for reading and a pen & paper for writing | Nov 20 19:35 |
| Ender2070 | 1.5 hr bus rides to and from work everyday next week | Nov 20 19:35 |
| Ender2070 | new job | Nov 20 19:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'll say the same of Twickenham, they're really bad with the booing !rugby | Nov 20 19:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] "Salix OS Linux Wallpapers Through The Long Night" from http://ur1.ca/2e2ke | Nov 20 19:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yup mad scary | Nov 20 19:47 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh you mention special guest for covering Mageia in episode 9, who me? | Nov 20 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Have we found the universe that existed before the Big Bang? http://on.io9.com/afAtEy | Nov 20 19:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Apple Not Amused by Pranksters' Fake iPhone Site http://gawker.com/5694967/ | Nov 20 19:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 141 dents! | Nov 20 19:57 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah the audiocast when will I do that hmm | Nov 20 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Firefox 4 UI update brings snazzy, new alert pop-ups http://ur1.ca/2e2o0 | Nov 20 20:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @agentsmith ff?? | Nov 20 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @dandart Follow Friday | Nov 20 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @agentsmith ah, thank you very much! | Nov 20 20:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz and here I sit at a !NaNoWriMo Write-In at the Queen Street Commons Cafe ... denting :D | Nov 20 20:20 | |
| *sebsebseb is back had to turn computer off | Nov 20 20:21 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: heh @ Mageia name stuff in Episode 9, I am not sure how to pronounce it, but I know which language it is and what it means :D | Nov 20 20:24 |
| ThistleWeb | portugese? | Nov 20 20:24 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: no | Nov 20 20:24 |
| sebsebseb | Ancient Greek or something and it means Magic | Nov 20 20:25 |
| ThistleWeb | k | Nov 20 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | and uhmm if thats mentioned in the audiocast before I speak on there, well I want credit or something :D heh heh | Nov 20 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | also theres another audio cast now | Nov 20 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | where one of the Mageia founders has spoke on it, but not listened to it yet | Nov 20 20:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Four years later http://ur1.ca/2e2th | Nov 20 20:25 | |
| sebsebseb | so I will listen to that :) should hopefuly a bit for when I chat on techbytes about Mageia and Mandriva and such :) | Nov 20 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | above, should hopefuly help a bit | Nov 20 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | also maybe at some stage, he would chat on it even | Nov 20 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: when is episode 11? | Nov 20 20:30 |
| ThistleWeb | dont know | Nov 20 20:30 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe this weekend sometime | Nov 20 20:30 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and maybe next week I chat on there | Nov 20 20:33 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe | Nov 20 20:33 |
| ThistleWeb | in the meantime I'm outa here, these alerts are pissing me off | Nov 20 20:33 |
| sebsebseb | just got to decide what computer going to do it on, and be set up, if its this one | Nov 20 20:33 |
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| sebsebseb | alerts he meant the identica messages or? | Nov 20 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | or me high ilghting :D | Nov 20 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | I wasn't doing that much | Nov 20 20:34 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi Ender2070 | Nov 20 20:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Dang the #Archos70 is out of stock...should have ordered it yesterday when it was in stock! | Nov 20 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Apparently 6th is the highest Scotland have ever been in the rankings !rugby | Nov 20 20:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] <sarcasm> | Nov 20 20:47 | |
| ml2mst | To the TechBytes team: how long (min:sec) do you prefer the TB tune to be? What Genre do you prefer and what file format (Oga/MP3)? | Nov 20 20:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] #iRail is looking for additional helping hands (mainly javascript), check http://yeri.be/dx or DM @Tuinslak or me. RT = good karma! | Nov 20 20:50 | |
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| ml2mst | Anything is possible, using GNU/Linux after all :-D | Nov 20 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: ok I am not really on the team, but I will be a guest speaker in a future episode :D | Nov 20 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | however | Nov 20 20:51 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm at first I didn't like the full theme tune | Nov 20 20:52 |
| sebsebseb | the song and uh, but then after hearing in a audio cast that it was about IRC trolls or whatever, then I basically thought it was more ok or whatever | Nov 20 20:52 |
| ml2mst | sebsebseb: I have only listened to Epesode 1 yet. Today episode 10 got out. So I have some listening to do ;-) | Nov 20 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I do like how its short at the begining, and the intro in background, but for some episodes maybe the whole thing should be played at the begining or at least the end, but I like having another song at the end :D | Nov 20 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: I started listening to them on the 17th | Nov 20 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | well I think it was the 17th I guess so, going by the tech rights log, anyway uhmm I am ready for 10 now :) | Nov 20 20:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb I've 'dented Roy, I won't be free for a ep tonight...but Sunday is fine (if you are available)..Regards...Tim. | Nov 20 20:54 | |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: untill episode five the play the whole song, then starting with episode five they don't anymore at the begining | Nov 20 20:54 |
| ml2mst | I want to hear all of them, liked the first show a lot. | Nov 20 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: yeah its quite good, some stuff I didn't really like listening to much, or didn't pay that much attention, but yeah | Nov 20 20:56 |
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| sebsebseb | ml2mst: best episodes so far are I guess 8 and 9 | Nov 20 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | altough I haven't heard 10 just yet | Nov 20 20:57 |
| ml2mst | Sorry for the late respond, my Lover just got online MSN :-) blah, blah, blah | Nov 20 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: well some parts maybe she should even listen to :D you'll know what I mean, when you hear I guess | Nov 20 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | assuming she isn't that technical | Nov 20 20:58 |
| ml2mst | Yeah, geeks do it over the Net (long digital relationship) LOL :-) | Nov 20 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Truly multi-tasking tonight. Part Husband, Part Dad, all FOSS. - "Windows is a disease, Linux is the cure" | Nov 20 20:59 | |
| Ender2071 | LOL | Nov 20 20:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @openbytes no worries | Nov 20 21:00 | |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: ok no episode tonight, so you got some more time to catch up :D or not quite, but I guess you know what I mean, and no I don't expect you to listen to like 9 episodes in a row or something | Nov 20 21:02 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: oh yeah the pillot is good, thats worth listening to as well really | Nov 20 21:03 |
| Ender2071 | that would be like 9 hrs | Nov 20 21:03 |
| ml2mst | sebsebseb, No that's too much. | Nov 20 21:03 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2071: yep that would make people go insane :D | Nov 20 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | even though for part of it, they would get to hear the beautiful Ender2071 :) | Nov 20 21:04 |
| Ender2071 | thats episode 1 though | Nov 20 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 20 21:04 |
| ml2mst | sebsebseb my lover is a Windroid but needs to know commandline stuf and HAS to use Fedora. | Nov 20 21:04 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm can get by in most of these distros without commands | Nov 20 21:05 |
| ml2mst | He begged me to install Fedora myself. Explained that Bash is just Bash, doesn't get it. | Nov 20 21:05 |
| sebsebseb | He? | Nov 20 21:05 |
| ml2mst | Oh, well downloaded Fedora 14 KDE Live CD, will do the poor chap te favour. | Nov 20 21:06 |
| sebsebseb | was that the girl friend jus speaking? | Nov 20 21:06 |
| ml2mst | Yes He :-p | Nov 20 21:06 |
| Ender2071 | the channel goes silent LOL | Nov 20 21:06 |
| ml2mst | Oh well my "Girllfriend" has a GNUtee too LOL :-) | Nov 20 21:07 |
| ml2mst | OK, It's a guy, nothing girlish at all. He is two years younger than me (46) and still in the coloset. | Nov 20 21:08 |
| ml2mst | His choise I don't give a flying fsck, it's called RESPECT. | Nov 20 21:09 |
| MinceR | why is he called a "Girllfriend"? | Nov 20 21:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of !fsf !lp. Fortunately we already have a fix for this -- email. | Nov 20 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] taking advantage of a lull in the rain to pedal two laptops over to the electronic recycler. Bye bye low-end machines. | Nov 20 21:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Facebook Messaging Continues to Block Some Links | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 82.01 KB | Nov 20 21:09 |
| Ender2071 | you guys know ml2mst is gay right? | Nov 20 21:09 |
| ml2mst | MinceR: because people asumed it was a woman. | Nov 20 21:09 |
| Ender2071 | surprise! | Nov 20 21:09 |
| Ender2071 | lol | Nov 20 21:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Nov 20 21:09 |
| ml2mst | Ender2071: indeed that's why I get attacked my Mr. Dildo Shop and other M$ Astroturfers all the time. | Nov 20 21:10 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: right so you don't really have a girl friend? | Nov 20 21:11 |
| Ender2071 | you get attacked by him too? | Nov 20 21:11 |
| Ender2071 | for that reason? | Nov 20 21:11 |
| ml2mst | No, I had a 23 year during relationship with a guy, he passed away in 2002. Now I'm single | Nov 20 21:12 |
| ml2mst | But found this guy (nick) Julian online | Nov 20 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @johnsu01 Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of !fsf !lp. Fortunately we already have a fix for ... | Nov 20 21:12 | |
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| ml2mst | Ender2071: Yes all Microsoft Astroturfers and Mono minions are homophobic. | Nov 20 21:13 |
| Ender2071 | mr dildo shop and deadsuperhero often call me homophobic | Nov 20 21:13 |
| Ender2071 | i dont like the word homophobic | Nov 20 21:14 |
| ml2mst | Ender2071: I know, yet you NEVER made a single homphobic word | Nov 20 21:15 |
| ml2mst | made = said | Nov 20 21:15 |
| Ender2071 | actually, I did refer to deadsuperhero's interest in trannys as 'twisted' | Nov 20 21:15 |
| Ender2071 | but thats because its trannys | Nov 20 21:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @johnsu01: Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of Fortunately we already have a fix for this -- email. | Nov 20 21:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Facebook Messaging Continues to Block Some Links | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 82.01 KB | Nov 20 21:15 |
| ml2mst | I am openly gay, yet I don't like trannys ether. The one has not much in common with the other | Nov 20 21:16 |
| Ender2071 | I see the two differently too | Nov 20 21:17 |
| Ender2071 | I told lefty to eat a bag of dicks, he spun that as homophobic | Nov 20 21:17 |
| Ender2071 | its slang insult | Nov 20 21:17 |
| Ender2071 | nothing to do with gay bashing | Nov 20 21:18 |
| ml2mst | Well I never took part in these pathatic Gay parades. Dont like that stuff | Nov 20 21:18 |
| Ender2071 | i dont hate gay people, i hate the politics | Nov 20 21:18 |
| MinceR | i don't hate gay people, i hate people | Nov 20 21:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 20 21:18 |
| Ender2071 | i have gay friends i hang out with all the time | Nov 20 21:18 |
| ml2mst | I am very well aware of that Ender2071 and we all know that Mr. Dildo shop is a habitual liar. | Nov 20 21:19 |
| Ender2071 | they hate the politics too | Nov 20 21:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @osamak Marti loves him. Anyway, I don't think of Mark as a rival. | Nov 20 21:19 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: sure, when you feel ready | Nov 20 21:19 |
| Ender2071 | yeah he is | Nov 20 21:19 |
| gnufreex | Ender2071: Hmm.. did you say deadsuperhero? That is one of ***sux.org trolls, avoid him. | Nov 20 21:19 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: we could record now | Nov 20 21:19 |
| Ender2071 | yes i did | Nov 20 21:19 |
| Ender2071 | i tried to friend him but he went back to his troll ways | Nov 20 21:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: not yet | Nov 20 21:19 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe next week | Nov 20 21:20 |
| Ender2071 | best way to kill a troll is to try friending them | Nov 20 21:20 |
| gnufreex | Hows that? | Nov 20 21:20 |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: first of all thanks | Nov 20 21:20 |
| gnufreex | You mean "best way to get him to attack you" ? | Nov 20 21:20 |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: I think we need some show identity for the first 5 or so seconds | Nov 20 21:20 |
| Ender2071 | nah | Nov 20 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Before the "troll song". We are planning to redo the whole intro anyway. | Nov 20 21:21 |
| Ender2071 | if your friends with someone they aren't going to harass the shit out of you | Nov 20 21:22 |
| schestowitz | [20:57] <sebsebseb> ml2mst: best episodes so far are I guess 8 and 9 | Nov 20 21:22 |
| schestowitz | We improve over time in terms of order and sound quality, it's good practice for us too | Nov 20 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] It's as if they decided that improving GNOME for everyone would have made Ubuntu difficult to market or something | Nov 20 21:22 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I haven't listended to 10 just yet | Nov 20 21:22 |
| ml2mst | schestowitz: thanks and what file format do you prefer? | Nov 20 21:23 |
| schestowitz | [21:09] <Ender2071> you guys know ml2mst is gay right? | Nov 20 21:24 |
| schestowitz | He also likes music! :-o :-o | Nov 20 21:24 |
| Ender2071 | who doesnt? :P | Nov 20 21:24 |
| ml2mst | schestowitz: and most important of all he likes Free Software and GNU/Linux | Nov 20 21:25 |
| Ender2071 | its not GNU/Linux! | Nov 20 21:25 |
| Ender2071 | its GNU PLUS Linux!!! | Nov 20 21:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] ♺ @bruce89: It's as if they decided that improving GNOME for everyone would have made Ubuntu difficult to market or something | Nov 20 21:25 | |
| gnufreex | It's just GNU... with linux as a kernel. | Nov 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | ml2mst: ogg | Nov 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | It's GNU GNU GNU (g3) | Nov 20 21:26 |
| schestowitz | To signify the greatest of thy beard | Nov 20 21:26 |
| ml2mst | In fact I do call it GNU + Linux (working on a new song, called go GO Gnu+Linux | Nov 20 21:27 |
| Ender2071 | the fsf needs to make its own OS | Nov 20 21:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Juan Ernesto Mendez takes a stand http://ur1.ca/2e394 | Nov 20 21:27 | |
| ml2mst | schestowitz: thanks, this is all the information I need for now. Had a problem with TTS frontend | Nov 20 21:28 |
| gnufreex | lol, Ender2071, RMS replied to you. | Nov 20 21:28 |
| Ender2071 | ?? | Nov 20 21:28 |
| ml2mst | schestowitz: fortunately someone on twitter reminded me what the best tts frontend was named | Nov 20 21:28 |
| gnufreex | TRIdentica after you comment, ender | Nov 20 21:29 |
| Ender2071 | what comment | Nov 20 21:29 |
| Ender2071 | when | Nov 20 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "That's not what Bill Nye said......" [IMG] http://is.gd/huRgv | Nov 20 21:29 | |
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| gnufreex | You said FSF needs to make an OS | Nov 20 21:29 |
| gnufreex | And then TRIdentica boot ... | Nov 20 21:29 |
| gnufreex | forget it | Nov 20 21:29 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Nov 20 21:29 |
| Ender2071 | if he did i dont remember | Nov 20 21:29 |
| Ender2071 | he always makes excuses for not doing it | Nov 20 21:30 |
| gnufreex | I think he did it. | Nov 20 21:30 |
| Ender2071 | so where is the gnu operating system | Nov 20 21:30 |
| gnufreex | It's Debian. | Nov 20 21:31 |
| MinceR | it's everywhere | Nov 20 21:31 |
| gnufreex | GNU don't do packaging. | Nov 20 21:31 |
| Ender2071 | so the gnu operating system is full of non freeness | Nov 20 21:31 |
| MinceR | not all versions of it are | Nov 20 21:31 |
| Ender2071 | what i mean | Nov 20 21:31 |
| Ender2071 | is a FSF OS | Nov 20 21:31 |
| Ender2071 | one they make | Nov 20 21:31 |
| MinceR | they make many parts of it | Nov 20 21:32 |
| Ender2071 | that way they can stop telling other distros how to run things | Nov 20 21:32 |
| Ender2071 | or what to name it | Nov 20 21:32 |
| MinceR | and they aren't particularly insistent on reinventing the wheel :> | Nov 20 21:32 |
| MinceR | some distros do things their way, actually | Nov 20 21:32 |
| gnufreex | There was GNU OS alpha versions. | Nov 20 21:32 |
| gnufreex | GNU-0.2 | Nov 20 21:32 |
| Ender2071 | yeah but it doesnt stop rms from running his mouth about gnu plus linux | Nov 20 21:32 |
| gnufreex | with Hurd | Nov 20 21:32 |
| Ender2071 | hes damaging free software | Nov 20 21:33 |
| Ender2071 | by doing that | Nov 20 21:33 |
| MinceR | no, he's not | Nov 20 21:33 |
| gnufreex | But they decided to fund Debian instead | Nov 20 21:33 |
| schestowitz | GNu has versions? | Nov 20 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Left Behind While !GNU !Linux Still Flies Ahead http://is.gd/huRgv | Nov 20 21:34 | |
| schestowitz | It doesn't quite get released as whole oS | Nov 20 21:34 |
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| Ender2071 | trust me he does | Nov 20 21:34 |
| MinceR | i don't trust you | Nov 20 21:34 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: not anymore. But there was GNU-0.2 release | Nov 20 21:34 |
| gnufreex | And 0.1 | Nov 20 21:34 |
| Ender2071 | its almost impossible to meet his expectations | Nov 20 21:34 |
| MinceR | especially when you're making assertions like that, without evidence. :> | Nov 20 21:34 |
| Ender2071 | ask journalists how often he freaks on them for calling something Linux | Nov 20 21:35 |
| MinceR | journalists often use incorrect terminology | Nov 20 21:35 |
| Ender2071 | email him about "linux" | Nov 20 21:35 |
| MinceR | how many times have you seen them call crackers "hackers"? | Nov 20 21:35 |
| gnufreex | Ender2071: Journalists are overblowing things. | Nov 20 21:35 |
| MinceR | Linux is a kernel | Nov 20 21:35 |
| Ender2071 | if i make something, i get to call it whatever i want | Nov 20 21:35 |
| gnufreex | Those who say RMS is hurting something are not your friends. | Nov 20 21:35 |
| Ender2071 | i dont care what you have to say about that | Nov 20 21:35 |
| MinceR | and there's at least one popular non-GNU OS that uses it | Nov 20 21:36 |
| MinceR | Ender2071: guess what, they made GNU | Nov 20 21:36 |
| Ender2071 | guess what | Nov 20 21:36 |
| Ender2071 | theres plenty of other software in a distro besides GNU | Nov 20 21:36 |
| MinceR | and there's at least one distro that has "GNU/Linux" in its official name | Nov 20 21:36 |
| gnufreex | Ender2071: That is the point. You make someting and you call it whatever you want. FSF made GNU and people are calling it Linux. | Nov 20 21:37 |
| Ender2071 | why dont we call it X/GNU/Linux | Nov 20 21:37 |
| MinceR | why don't you call it that | Nov 20 21:37 |
| Ender2071 | because its stupid | Nov 20 21:37 |
| MinceR | (there was a distro that called it GNU/Linux/X, though) | Nov 20 21:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Are there any estimates as to the value of the security industry trying to keep the Windows show on the road? !security | Nov 20 21:37 | |
| MinceR | sure, servers often lack X | Nov 20 21:37 |
| Ender2071 | exactly | Nov 20 21:37 |
| Ender2071 | if I make something I get to name it | Nov 20 21:37 |
| MinceR | exactly | Nov 20 21:37 |
| MinceR | so since FSF made GNU, they get to name it | Nov 20 21:38 |
| Ender2071 | then RMS will come and say im wrong | Nov 20 21:38 |
| MinceR | you can make something, name it and be wrong about it, btw | Nov 20 21:38 |
| Ender2071 | if i made Pwnage Linux, rms would freak out until I renamed it Pwnage GNU/Linux | Nov 20 21:38 |
| Ender2071 | wrong about what | Nov 20 21:38 |
| MinceR | the name | Nov 20 21:38 |
| Ender2071 | its just a god damned name | Nov 20 21:38 |
| Ender2071 | the name does not have to be a description of its contents | Nov 20 21:39 |
| MinceR | if i made a calculator app and called it FileManager, it would be a wrong name, would it not? | Nov 20 21:39 |
| gnufreex | Call it jus t Pwnage | Nov 20 21:39 |
| gnufreex | you can go wrong with that | Nov 20 21:39 |
| gnufreex | Also, Linux is trademarked. | Nov 20 21:39 |
| Ender2071 | yeah i would just call it Pwnage | Nov 20 21:39 |
| gnufreex | You have to pay Torvalds to make compercials about pwnage Linux | Nov 20 21:39 |
| Ender2071 | or PwnageOS | Nov 20 21:39 |
| Ender2071 | its a name | Nov 20 21:40 |
| gnufreex | *commercials | Nov 20 21:40 |
| Ender2071 | im not advertising for the gnu in my products name, sorry | Nov 20 21:40 |
| MinceR | android is a good example of why GNU is important :> | Nov 20 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz #OpenSUSE Left Behind While !GNU !Linux Still Flies Ahead http://is.gd/huRgv | Nov 20 21:40 | |
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| Ender2071 | free software is important | Nov 20 21:41 |
| gnufreex | Ender2071: I am not messing, see Linux mark institute. | Nov 20 21:41 |
| Ender2071 | openbsd is free software too and it doesnt use a gnu compiler | Nov 20 21:41 |
| gnufreex | That is owned by Torvalds. | Nov 20 21:41 |
| Ender2071 | i know about the trademark | Nov 20 21:41 |
| Ender2071 | i doubt he registered it in canada | Nov 20 21:42 |
| gnufreex | Ender2071: So? What about OpenBSD? | Nov 20 21:42 |
| MinceR | that doesn't mean you get to use it all over the world | Nov 20 21:42 |
| MinceR | and who cares about openbsd? | Nov 20 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That's not what Bill Nye said......" [IMG] (correct link now, sorry) http://i.imgur.com/4NSjj.png | Nov 20 21:42 | |
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| gnufreex | He registered trademark all over the world. | Nov 20 21:43 |
| gnufreex | In fact, William De la Croce did. | Nov 20 21:43 |
| gnufreex | Torvalds paid him to hand it over. | Nov 20 21:43 |
| Ender2071 | LOL | Nov 20 21:43 |
| Ender2071 | bullshit | Nov 20 21:43 |
| gnufreex | You don't know that? | Nov 20 21:43 |
| Ender2071 | im looking at it right now, a swedish company owns it in Canada | Nov 20 21:43 |
| gnufreex | Those are facts | Nov 20 21:43 |
| Ender2071 | haha idiot | Nov 20 21:43 |
| Ender2071 | look it up | Nov 20 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Switch To The New Phoronix.com Server: If you're seeing this message here, you have reached our new server f... http://bit.ly/93ZCRQ | Nov 20 21:44 | |
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| Ender2071 | GOWLING LAFLEUR HENDERSON | Nov 20 21:44 |
| Ender2071 | Laundry detergents and fabric softener | Nov 20 21:44 |
| gnufreex | There was litigation between de la Croce and bunch of companies over Linux name | Nov 20 21:44 |
| Ender2071 | again | Nov 20 21:44 |
| Ender2071 | NOT IN CANADA | Nov 20 21:44 |
| Ender2071 | we're not living in a one world government YET | Nov 20 21:45 |
| MinceR | i thought the same trademark could still be used by different entities if their areas of business had nothing to do with each other | Nov 20 21:45 |
| MinceR | then again, i'm not sure about that | Nov 20 21:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Wow it's really is raining hard out there! Loving it. | Nov 20 21:45 | |
| Ender2071 | true but it hasnt been registered for that reason here | Nov 20 21:46 |
| schestowitz | [21:43] <Ender2071> haha idiot | Nov 20 21:46 |
| schestowitz | be polite, pls | Nov 20 21:46 |
| Ender2071 | its been registered under the company i mentioned | Nov 20 21:46 |
| gnufreex | Ender2071: So he maybe missed canada. | Nov 20 21:46 |
| Ender2071 | they often miss canada | Nov 20 21:46 |
| Ender2071 | firefox, fedora don't exist in Canada as trademarks either | Nov 20 21:46 |
| Ender2071 | i suggested hosting the firefox rpms here if they wanted to change the code without MoFo's permission | Nov 20 21:46 |
| Ender2071 | the trademarks that do exist aren't related | Nov 20 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla hires MoFo? | Nov 20 21:47 |
| MinceR | it might still be troublesome if someone outside canada downloads them | Nov 20 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mlinksva Can anyone pinpoint years anti #swpats inflected in #fs community and in venture capital/business community? > 2006 for FS IMHO | Nov 20 21:47 | |
| Ender2071 | true | Nov 20 21:48 |
| Ender2071 | i think thats why they wouldnt do it | Nov 20 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla is not an aggressor | Nov 20 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] About to RT the HTML 5 link from Jono since I thought about doing that before more than once, and it's good. | Nov 20 21:49 | |
| Ender2071 | yes it is | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Over anything AFAIK | Nov 20 21:49 |
| Ender2071 | yeah they are | Nov 20 21:49 |
| Ender2071 | they are a trademark agressor | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: when? | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | I must have missed it | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Like Ubuntu/Canonical? | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | They don't take legal action | Nov 20 21:49 |
| Ender2071 | look up Debian/Iceweasel | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | or c&d | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: no | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Debian didn't get threatened | Nov 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | They did it out of principles as I recall it, and I looked very closely | Nov 20 21:50 |
| Ender2071 | Fedora was threatened | Nov 20 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla was not happen with the rebrand | Nov 20 21:50 |
| MinceR | imo mozilla goes too far in that trademark issue | Nov 20 21:50 |
| Ender2071 | Fedora was told that if they use system libs they can't use the trademark | Nov 20 21:50 |
| schestowitz | And Debian was chided for being too proactive and proud (self pride) | Nov 20 21:50 |
| Ender2071 | thats aggression | Nov 20 21:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] so am doing the dirty deed. getting windows back on slow machine for them viruses to eat it :) | Nov 20 21:50 | |
| MinceR | debian might have been too proactive | Nov 20 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Need to check | Nov 20 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071 may be right | Nov 20 21:51 |
| schestowitz | I just asked him, not doubted him | Nov 20 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla hates lawsuits | Nov 20 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Canonical too | Nov 20 21:51 |
| Ender2071 | im sure they had no intetion | Nov 20 21:51 |
| schestowitz | With all their perceived flaws withstanding | Nov 20 21:51 |
| Ender2071 | intention | Nov 20 21:51 |
| Ender2071 | they just wanted to keep control | Nov 20 21:52 |
| schestowitz | They could get ignored | Nov 20 21:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] LOL RT @schestowitz "That's not what Bill Nye said......" [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/4NSjj.png #evolution | Nov 20 21:52 | |
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| Ender2071 | Fedora itself seemed worried | Nov 20 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Some *buntus didn't rename | Nov 20 21:52 |
| Ender2071 | many suggested iceweasel but fesco didnt like that | Nov 20 21:52 |
| schestowitz | See the jono versus Satanic Edition saga | Nov 20 21:52 |
| schestowitz | jono ain't here now | Nov 20 21:53 |
| MinceR | who's fesco? | Nov 20 21:53 |
| Ender2071 | fesco is the fedora government | Nov 20 21:53 |
| schestowitz | tesco for fedora | Nov 20 21:53 |
| MinceR | yeah, among other shady things, canonical supports some cults but persecutes satanism | Nov 20 21:53 |
| schestowitz | You go buy packages (cigs) there | Nov 20 21:53 |
| Ender2071 | they thought branding was good enough to take orders from mozilla | Nov 20 21:54 |
| Ender2071 | firefox is very popular | Nov 20 21:54 |
| *schestowitz looking at some *NUX nooooz | Nov 20 21:54 | |
| Ender2071 | google doesn't require name changes if you modify chromium | Nov 20 21:54 |
| gnufreex | Well, they could | Nov 20 21:55 |
| gnufreex | But they don't now | Nov 20 21:55 |
| MinceR | they don't need to | Nov 20 21:55 |
| gnufreex | I think | Nov 20 21:55 |
| Ender2071 | in extreme cases, free software is limited by trademarks | Nov 20 21:55 |
| MinceR | they already reserve the real brand (chrome) to their own partially-free blob | Nov 20 21:55 |
| gnufreex | chrome is 100% non free | Nov 20 21:56 |
| gnufreex | It doesn't matter where code comes from | Nov 20 21:56 |
| gnufreex | It has gian EULA | Nov 20 21:56 |
| gnufreex | *giant | Nov 20 21:56 |
| Ender2071 | chromium is free software though | Nov 20 21:56 |
| gnufreex | Yep | Nov 20 21:56 |
| MinceR | some of it is probably identical to chromium, though | Nov 20 21:56 |
| MinceR | (but i'm not sure if you can really tell) | Nov 20 21:56 |
| Ender2071 | part of being a chromium user made me drop my worries over the firefox trademark crap | Nov 20 21:57 |
| gnufreex | Chrome uses few libraries that Chromium don't use | Nov 20 21:57 |
| Ender2071 | because i stoppped caring | Nov 20 21:57 |
| gnufreex | They could spy on you or such. | Nov 20 21:57 |
| gnufreex | If you use Chrome, that is. | Nov 20 21:57 |
| Ender2071 | they spy on you anyways | Nov 20 21:57 |
| MinceR | you can reduce their spying, though | Nov 20 21:57 |
| Ender2071 | firefox or chrome or chromium | Nov 20 21:58 |
| Ender2071 | google search | Nov 20 21:58 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, but this way is more efficient. | Nov 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | by reducing your use of their services and products | Nov 20 21:58 |
| gnufreex | You can't escape | Nov 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | or by using them through anonymizing services | Nov 20 21:58 |
| Ender2071 | whats better than google search? | Nov 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | usually i prefer DuckDuckGo | Nov 20 21:58 |
| schestowitz | having the file offhand | Nov 20 21:58 |
| MinceR | but you could also use Scroogle, even through Tor | Nov 20 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just Another Ubuntu-based Distro or Something More http://is.gd/huWXQ don't like it, then fork it! That's true freedom. | Nov 20 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] RT @jonobacon I never realized just how awesome HTML5 is until I saw this: http://is.gd/holoE #html5 | Nov 20 21:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Just Another Ubuntu-based Distro or Something More .::. Size~: 43.35 KB | Nov 20 21:59 |
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| Ender2071 | you think that keeps you safe? | Nov 20 21:59 |
| Ender2071 | somehow | Nov 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Scroogleis GOogle | Nov 20 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Like Yahoo! is a pipe for smoking Microsoft gases | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | sure, but scroogle puts its array of proxies between you and google | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | Tor can provide another layer | Nov 20 22:00 |
| Ender2071 | those aren't secure | Nov 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz | You'd think... | Nov 20 22:00 |
| Ender2071 | if your a suspect it won't matter | Nov 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | they're more secure than using google directly | Nov 20 22:00 |
| MinceR | anyway, do you have proof? :> | Nov 20 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Mischievous kids could use them to harvest data and sell | Nov 20 22:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today I lost 2 weeks of data on my Palm because I ignored warnings about low battery. Aw well... my fault. | Nov 20 22:00 | |
| Ender2071 | the fact that quantum encryption exists, and was broken | Nov 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz | quantum=hype | Nov 20 22:01 |
| MinceR | what has that have to do with this? | Nov 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz | They say G*d is also quantum | Nov 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Cause it sounds cryptic | Nov 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | they also say quantum mechanics don't exist | Nov 20 22:02 |
| Ender2071 | how hard is it to find what nodes your jumping around | Nov 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | they say that over devices that rely on its workings | Nov 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz | And people cannot explain it in normal terms we see in the macro-world | Nov 20 22:02 |
| MinceR | Ender2071: depends on how much of the network they can directly sniff | Nov 20 22:02 |
| Ender2071 | except that quantum computing exists and works | Nov 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Einstein died trying to prove such stuff | Nov 20 22:02 |
| schestowitz | he was wrong for like 20 years | Nov 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: does it? | Nov 20 22:03 |
| Ender2071 | yes there was a public article about one over a year ago I read | Nov 20 22:03 |
| MinceR | afaik lots of modern electronics rely on quantum-mechanical effects | Nov 20 22:03 |
| Ender2071 | it was in the testing phase | Nov 20 22:03 |
| Ender2071 | i linked it here im pretty sure too | Nov 20 22:03 |
| schestowitz | afaik it's more of theoretical proposal | Nov 20 22:03 |
| Ender2071 | militarily they'll have far more advanced stuff | Nov 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz | cool | Nov 20 22:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft Now “Excited” by Kinect Hacks - http://on.mash.to/8Z6Xiy wisely bowing to the inevitable #kinect #microsoft | Nov 20 22:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Now "Excited" by Kinect Hacks .::. Size~: 83.46 KB | Nov 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz | 10 years ago it was in its diapers, IIRC | Nov 20 22:04 |
| gnufreex | Lol, now they like KINect hack. | Nov 20 22:04 |
| schestowitz | [22:03] <MinceR> afaik lots of modern electronics rely on quantum-mechanical effects | Nov 20 22:05 |
| Ender2071 | right now the only security is in your head | Nov 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Sure | Nov 20 22:05 |
| Ender2071 | everything on a computer is breakable | Nov 20 22:05 |
| Ender2071 | even your head won't be secure very long | Nov 20 22:05 |
| schestowitz | But that's like saying quantum theory is valid | Nov 20 22:05 |
| Ender2071 | scientists made a machine that can read dreams | Nov 20 22:05 |
| gnufreex | They relized they they might like sales. | Nov 20 22:05 |
| MinceR | Ender2071: that's a tabloizied interpretation :> | Nov 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing " | Nov 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | * | Nov 20 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Quantum computer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 127.39 KB | Nov 20 22:06 |
| MinceR | s/izied/idized/ | Nov 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | The large number of candidates demonstrates that the topic, in spite of rapid progress, is still in its infancy. But at the same time there is also a vast amount of flexibility. | Nov 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | They have not even prototypes | Nov 20 22:06 |
| schestowitz | candidates | Nov 20 22:06 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about quantum computers though | Nov 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | They used to hype optic computing 10 years ago | Nov 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | That's when I studied that in CS classes | Nov 20 22:07 |
| MinceR | one example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_magnetoresistance | Nov 20 22:07 |
| schestowitz | We still use just silicon and current | Nov 20 22:07 |
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| *Ziomatrix (~who@ool-44c468e3.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #techrights | Nov 20 22:09 | |
| MinceR | another: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling | Nov 20 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] PAC code arrived - number changes over on Wednesday, will be juggling SIMs until then | Nov 20 22:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Quantum tunnelling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 107.87 KB | Nov 20 22:09 |
| Ender2071 | look up tunnel vision | Nov 20 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Do I need tunnel vision to loook that up? :-= | Nov 20 22:10 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: you certainly need to understand Quantum Mechanics and Wave-Particle Duality | Nov 20 22:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody KINect does not sell well, they need to empty the stocks to give illusion of demand now | Nov 20 22:10 | |
| *schestowitz reckons human civilisation will destroy itself (or peak oil) before we advance past silicon wafers | Nov 20 22:11 | |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: to implement it? | Nov 20 22:11 |
| schestowitz | I know some bits of Quantum Mechanics | Nov 20 22:11 |
| schestowitz | But nobody understands Quantum Mechanics :-) | Nov 20 22:11 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well yes, also why can't humanity just descend into a dark age oh wair | Nov 20 22:11 |
| Ziomatrix | wait | Nov 20 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Feynmann says, if you think you understand Quantum Mechanics, then you don't understand Quantum Mechanics | Nov 20 22:12 |
| MinceR | dark age is relative :> | Nov 20 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Well, said | Nov 20 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Caused he died | Nov 20 22:12 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: Quantum Mechanics is pretty definitive, its just its definitive nature creates many contradictions that can only be solved through other scientific theories :-P | Nov 20 22:12 |
| schestowitz | dark age is good for ozone | Nov 20 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Not so dark atually | Nov 20 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Dark ages is when we get smart | Nov 20 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Nuclear winter | Nov 20 22:12 |
| MinceR | not necessarily on either counts | Nov 20 22:13 |
| schestowitz | And pollution from industrial revolution (dimming) | Nov 20 22:13 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: not really, a Dark Age is when technology stagnants while societies involved become more ideologically rooted and harder to embrace change | Nov 20 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Makes me wanna dent something... | Nov 20 22:13 |
| Ziomatrix | I think a portion of the world is heading into a Dark Age already | Nov 20 22:14 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: maybe | Nov 20 22:15 |
| MinceR | it seem to me too | Nov 20 22:15 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: actually now that I think about it a Dark Age also means a time in when history wasn't so widely recorded. | Nov 20 22:15 |
| MinceR | s/em/ems/ | Nov 20 22:15 |
| schestowitz | But even gravity in atoms is bizarre to us | Nov 20 22:15 |
| MinceR | for example the constitutional state is dying in hungary now | Nov 20 22:15 |
| schestowitz | What keeps the electrons in 'orbit' so to speak | Nov 20 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It's very confusing when you enter the real of the small | Nov 20 22:15 |
| schestowitz | I lose track of videos that explain it all | Nov 20 22:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The more science advances, the closer we get to another Dark Age of global dimming, nuclear winter, and pollution (dark). #climate #peakoil | Nov 20 22:15 | |
| MinceR | i think that's an electric field, not gravity | Nov 20 22:15 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: Constitutionality is dieing in its birthplace dude! | Nov 20 22:16 |
| schestowitz | And we just give stuff funny man-made names | Nov 20 22:16 |
| MinceR | Ziomatrix: where's that? | Nov 20 22:16 |
| schestowitz | It's the concepts that count, not names | Nov 20 22:16 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: the United States of America | Nov 20 22:16 |
| MinceR | ic | Nov 20 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Like grasping the distance between the nucleus and electrons | Nov 20 22:16 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: full body scanners are going into full affect that violate the 4th Amendment in Broad daylight and all the pundits can say is well if we don't let those agents keep naked pictures of 13 year old girls the terrorists win. | Nov 20 22:17 |
| schestowitz | [22:14] <Ziomatrix> I think a portion of the world is heading into a Dark Age already | Nov 20 22:17 |
| MinceR | Ziomatrix: this tuesday the nazis have accepted a law that removes the jurisdiction of the constitutional court here in hungary | Nov 20 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Smart people don't reproduce much | Nov 20 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that's because they are smart | Nov 20 22:17 |
| Ender2071 | peak oil, rofl | Nov 20 22:17 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting to see if the constitutional court will destroy that law | Nov 20 22:17 |
| MinceR | and if so, what will happen | Nov 20 22:17 |
| schestowitz | So we have hindrancesa | Nov 20 22:17 |
| MinceR | whose word will the authorities follow | Nov 20 22:18 |
| Ender2071 | society will destroy itself, yes, but if it does, the elite will be underground with the seed vaults | Nov 20 22:18 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its not about smart people reproducing, its about people being selfish and self-centered to their own comfortable standard of living beyond the verge of stupidity. No director of the TSA or any politician would risk their budget to question what is actually right for society. | Nov 20 22:18 |
| schestowitz | THat too | Nov 20 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Linux stole the show from M$'s Kinect. The wonders M$ promised, Linux delivered. Minority report way. | Nov 20 22:19 | |
| MinceR | the nazis have also created a law that's retroactive to 5 years ago | Nov 20 22:19 |
| MinceR | and there's hardly any public outrage about all this either | Nov 20 22:20 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: politicians are too accustomed to pandering to extremists who are easy to give lip service to for votes rather then run elections on the platform of an issue thats actually dire and at hand | Nov 20 22:20 |
| MinceR | when the commies' prime minister said they lied in their election program, there were riots | Nov 20 22:20 |
| MinceR | now there's nothing | Nov 20 22:20 |
| ml2mst | My apologies, having a serious discussion with my lover ATM on MSN. Was a Windroid, educating him right now | Nov 20 22:20 |
| MinceR | ml2mst: good luck | Nov 20 22:20 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: Fascists got the majority of electoral seats in Hungary? | Nov 20 22:21 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 20 22:21 |
| MinceR | enough to change the constitution | Nov 20 22:21 |
| MinceR | well, they don't call themselves fascists officially | Nov 20 22:21 |
| ml2mst | MinceR: I have high hopes, he's a geek too, just missguided by the Slog ;-) | Nov 20 22:21 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: in the US folks just simply ignore it and if a Constitutional issue is raised they rely on courts they are certain they appointed for their interests to go ars-backwards in interpretting how it doesn't violate personal freedom if its for public safety. | Nov 20 22:22 |
| Ender2071 | [02:22] <Ziomatrix> schestowitz: its not about smart people reproducing, its about people being selfish and self-centered to their own comfortable standard of living beyond the verge of stupidity. No director of the TSA or any politician would risk their budget to question what is actually right for society. | Nov 20 22:22 |
| Ender2071 | socialism is dangerous | Nov 20 22:22 |
| Ziomatrix | Ender2071: with Banks and large insurance companies such as AIG its the same dangerous group think. | Nov 20 22:23 |
| gnufreex | Capitalism is dangerous too. | Nov 20 22:23 |
| MinceR | Ziomatrix: at least in yankeestan the regular switch between the two gangs of politicians doesn't seem to have so far-reaching effects as this | Nov 20 22:23 |
| Ender2071 | the banks are funding the green movement | Nov 20 22:23 |
| MinceR | Ender2071: at least something good might come out of their funding then | Nov 20 22:24 |
| schestowitz | [22:23] <gnufreex> Capitalism is dangerous too. | Nov 20 22:24 |
| gnufreex | If there was a real capitalist country on the world, it would break up like soviet union. | Nov 20 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith now we just need a smart Chinese company to make a similar product for 50 quid RRP ;-) | Nov 20 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] RT @schestowitz #OpenSUSE Left Behind While !GNU !Linux Still Flies Ahead http://is.gd/huRgv | Nov 20 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] A great blog post by @pretemoiparis on cultural shock, Paris, and how to overcome it: http://ur1.ca/2e3mj #paris #culture #getoveryourself | Nov 20 22:24 | |
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| schestowitz | POWER is dangerous | Nov 20 22:24 |
| gnufreex | Every extreme makes same results. | Nov 20 22:24 |
| Ender2071 | ugh | Nov 20 22:24 |
| MinceR | the human species is dangerous | Nov 20 22:24 |
| Ziomatrix | MS has it cronically too, which is why their business model is faultering now thanks to loggerheads pushing to extend and extinguish while increasingly forgetting the embrace priciple that made them a monopoly in the first place. | Nov 20 22:24 |
| schestowitz | We need to ensure people keep power over their lives | Nov 20 22:24 |
| Ender2071 | the banks are funding it to kill us off | Nov 20 22:25 |
| Ziomatrix | gnufreex: there is a difference between an actual free market and a crony one that verges on fascism | Nov 20 22:25 |
| MinceR | Ziomatrix: if this law is left in place, there will be no authority left that can enforce our constitution | Nov 20 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: not just the banks | Nov 20 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Wealth holders | Nov 20 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Many roam in banks | Nov 20 22:25 |
| MinceR | and the nazis are already in the process of replacing our constitution with some christian fundamentalist raving bullshit | Nov 20 22:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz And compatible with Xbox, to nail the coffin of M$... | Nov 20 22:25 | |
| schestowitz | As bosses or clients (investors) | Nov 20 22:25 |
| Ender2071 | marxism is a religion too | Nov 20 22:26 |
| Ender2071 | just as intolerant too | Nov 20 22:26 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: You think they'll push for Greater Hungary next? | Nov 20 22:26 |
| MinceR | Ziomatrix: not sure | Nov 20 22:26 |
| schestowitz | It's not | Nov 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Religion has deism I think | Nov 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz | It's like Creationist PROPAG~1 that says "Darwinism" is 'another religion' | Nov 20 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @schestowitz me neither. | Nov 20 22:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I say nail the chair to the floor :-) | Nov 20 22:27 | |
| MinceR | it's a risky move but the Great Leader is reckless enough that he might do it | Nov 20 22:27 |
| gnufreex | Ziomatrix: Yes. But capitalims zealots don't see the difference. When they see rich fucking poor, they say: "Yeah babe, capitalism". Never mind it is also fascism. | Nov 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Or that Obama is a Nazi/commie/socialist... | Nov 20 22:27 |
| Ender2071 | nah | Nov 20 22:27 |
| Ender2071 | roy, stop it | Nov 20 22:27 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: In Yankeestan the 2 parties argue on ideologically and philisophical issues while all of a sudden being by partisan on things that increase captial for them and their conglomerate supporters while hurting everyone. | Nov 20 22:28 |
| MinceR | the officially more extreme nazis would certainly push for it but they're officially part of the oppositionm | Nov 20 22:28 |
| Ender2071 | why defend marxism | Nov 20 22:28 |
| MinceR | sometimes they go against the populist nazis, sometimes they support them | Nov 20 22:28 |
| Ender2071 | its the bloodiest way to go from capitalism to capitalism | Nov 20 22:28 |
| Ender2071 | obama is a socialist | Nov 20 22:28 |
| MinceR | actually "the rich fucking the poor" is every single political system ever | Nov 20 22:28 |
| MinceR | the rich have the power and humans in general are selfish | Nov 20 22:29 |
| Ender2071 | yes | Nov 20 22:29 |
| Ender2071 | i | Nov 20 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How countries voted on resolution to accept execution of gays - http://bit.ly/9w4PAN the usual suspects (via @mlinksva) | Nov 20 22:29 | |
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| Ender2071 | i'd rather have anarchy | Nov 20 22:29 |
| MinceR | so would i | Nov 20 22:29 |
| Ender2071 | no person telling me what to do | Nov 20 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: Socialist has many interpretations | Nov 20 22:29 |
| MinceR | obama is yet another corporate puppet, with slightly different flavor and ornamentation | Nov 20 22:29 |
| schestowitz | When FAUX says it, it's a sub for "marxist" | Nov 20 22:29 |
| Ender2071 | roy, marx's teacher was Mosses Hess | Nov 20 22:29 |
| Ender2071 | Moses Hess was a student of Adam Weishapt | Nov 20 22:29 |
| schestowitz | I don't know them | Nov 20 22:30 |
| ml2mst | Oops, I think I've gone to far with Julian this time. Facts (about the Vole) are scared. | Nov 20 22:30 |
| schestowitz | And I reckon Marx had more than one teacher | Nov 20 22:30 |
| Ender2071 | Adam was the founder of the illuminati | Nov 20 22:30 |
| schestowitz | So selecting just one or... | Nov 20 22:30 |
| schestowitz | One of one.. | Nov 20 22:30 |
| ml2mst | scared = scary | Nov 20 22:30 |
| Ender2071 | he drafted up something pretty close to the communist manifesto | Nov 20 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Teacher of teacher... | Nov 20 22:30 |
| Ziomatrix | MinceR: for example the Republicans keep on talking about how outsourcing jobs hurts the country and we should cut down on immigration. Yet their party was first in line to fillibuster a bill that would remove the tax breaks that corporations get if they outsourced a higher percentage of their jobs. http://tinyurl.com/25ohrsm | Nov 20 22:30 |
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| MinceR | Ender2071: interesting | Nov 20 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Thaqt's trying to find route of convenience | Nov 20 22:31 |
| Ender2071 | bertrand russell brought communism to china | Nov 20 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: you and I share ancestors | Nov 20 22:31 |
| Ender2071 | HE even said marxism compares to christianity | Nov 20 22:31 |
| MinceR | well, both are religions | Nov 20 22:31 |
| Ziomatrix | Where's the Tea Party uproar when you need it? Oh wait, they're just an extension of the GOP to appeal to senior and intolerant rural voters | Nov 20 22:31 |
| Ender2071 | marxism IS a religion | Nov 20 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: he was not for religion | Nov 20 22:31 |
| Ender2071 | marx was against all OTHER religions | Nov 20 22:31 |
| schestowitz | So that sounds like him mocking communism as delusion | Nov 20 22:31 |
| Ender2071 | christianity is against OTHER religions too | Nov 20 22:32 |
| schestowitz | marxism is not a religion though | Nov 20 22:32 |
| Ender2071 | its like one | Nov 20 22:32 |
| Ziomatrix | In Communism everyone is equal, its just some are more equal then others. ;-) | Nov 20 22:32 |
| schestowitz | And the claims Stalin was an atheist is not so simple to debunk | Nov 20 22:32 |
| Ender2071 | intolerant, and murders its critics | Nov 20 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Hitler on the other hand was clearly religious http://is.gd/hoYJs | Nov 20 22:33 |
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| Ender2071 | hitler wasnt a marxist, he liked the doctrine but made changes | Nov 20 22:33 |
| schestowitz | not fascist? | Nov 20 22:34 |
| Ender2071 | socialist | Nov 20 22:34 |
| schestowitz | natinal | Nov 20 22:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CAPTCHA-busting botnet busted http://bit.ly/drogPp | Nov 20 22:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wiseguy scalpers bought tickets with CAPTCHA-busting botnet .::. Size~: 109.88 KB | Nov 20 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: he was more social towards people like him than towards Gypsies or Jews | Nov 20 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Socialist as in "societist" | Nov 20 22:35 |
| schestowitz | And no gays allowed in his club, either | Nov 20 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | Hmm bot show the ♺ @schestowitz | Nov 20 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Cause Sky Daddy and church sez s | Nov 20 22:35 |
| schestowitz | *so | Nov 20 22:35 |
| Ender2071 | hitler was alleged to be gay himself though | Nov 20 22:35 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it shows replies to people the bot knows only | Nov 20 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Intel little-End-ian; PowerPC, SPARC big endian | Nov 20 22:35 | |
| schestowitz | and all RTs | Nov 20 22:35 |
| Ender2071 | pink swastika | Nov 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: it's not a binary thing | Nov 20 22:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: well I just RT'd you with ♺ @schestowitz: | Nov 20 22:36 |
| sebsebseb | and it should be called RD really | Nov 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | ask the bot | Nov 20 22:36 |
| sebsebseb | since htey aren't Twitter | Nov 20 22:36 |
| MinceR | or just ♺ | Nov 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: pink is not gay | Nov 20 22:36 |
| MinceR | since that doesn't say T or D :> | Nov 20 22:36 |
| schestowitz | It's a light/wave frequency | Nov 20 22:36 |
| Ender2071 | pink swastika is a book | Nov 20 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Gay is something else | Nov 20 22:37 |
| MinceR | actually it's a mix of frequencies | Nov 20 22:37 |
| MinceR | or rather, a set of such spectra | Nov 20 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yep I am starting to use ♺ however for older dents/messages it seems I have to use the site, or at least when using pino, since it won't show those | Nov 20 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Not really, I think | Nov 20 22:37 |
| Ender2071 | anyways I've done enough research to know socialism isn't good | Nov 20 22:37 |
| schestowitz | It's along the way between two | Nov 20 22:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Intel Mac little-endian | Nov 20 22:37 | |
| Ender2071 | the more research I do the more I confirm this in my own mind | Nov 20 22:37 |
| Ziomatrix | I think we have proved Godwin's law here folks: http://tinyurl.com/6cnjm | Nov 20 22:37 |
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| MinceR | Ender2071: i'm living in one of the failed experiments. | Nov 20 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: in fact that one to schestowitz disappeared from pino, just before I do a ♺ message to him | Nov 20 22:37 |
| MinceR | and some of the people here didn't learn the lesson | Nov 20 22:37 |
| MinceR | (in hungary) | Nov 20 22:38 |
| Ender2071 | mincer, im in Canada | Nov 20 22:38 |
| ml2mst | The Pink treangle was used in Nazi disctruction camps to mark homosexuals, like the yellow star to mark Jews | Nov 20 22:38 |
| Ender2071 | its just as bad here | Nov 20 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | eh well for that message, main thing is that it shows on the site, on my profile, but also schestowitz replies :D | Nov 20 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: not really | Nov 20 22:38 |
| MinceR | i don't know the status of canada | Nov 20 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Nobody was compared to a Nazi | Nov 20 22:38 |
| Ender2071 | canada is non free | Nov 20 22:38 |
| MinceR | oh, that i know | Nov 20 22:38 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: but it did end up being about Hitler | Nov 20 22:38 |
| MinceR | commonwealth and monarchy and all | Nov 20 22:38 |
| Ender2071 | trudeau was a marxist | Nov 20 22:38 |
| ml2mst | Homosexualls have adopted the pink treangle, which was replaced by the Rainbow Flag in the 1980's during the first AIDS epedemic | Nov 20 22:39 |
| Ender2071 | he never gave us land rights | Nov 20 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: Ender2071 ml2mst uhmm shoudn't that chat be moved to #boycottnovell-social really? | Nov 20 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: in konversation right now... | Nov 20 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Your assigned colour is pink | Nov 20 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ^ | Nov 20 22:39 |
| schestowitz | I kid you not | Nov 20 22:39 |
| Ender2071 | lol | Nov 20 22:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR is yellow | Nov 20 22:40 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: maybe it should, but moving chats to another channel is very difficult | Nov 20 22:40 |
| schestowitz | like sebsebseb | Nov 20 22:40 |
| Ender2071 | sebsebseb - good example | Nov 20 22:40 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i prefer bluish violet :> | Nov 20 22:40 |
| sebsebseb | what has being gay, got to do with techrights? | Nov 20 22:40 |
| Ender2071 | great example of how socialists deal with critics | Nov 20 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't mean they're Semites and that you're gay | Nov 20 22:40 |
| schestowitz | it's just an algo | Nov 20 22:40 |
| Ender2071 | they get rid of them | Nov 20 22:40 |
| schestowitz | They paint them pink in freenode | Nov 20 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Difficult Times Lie Ahead, Harry Potter | Nov 20 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Tempos difíceis estão por vir, Harry Potter | Nov 20 22:40 | |
| Ender2071 | :) | Nov 20 22:41 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: we talked about what we call colour (wave) being associated with genetics | Nov 20 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Like we say there are "man colours" and "woman colours" | Nov 20 22:41 |
| schestowitz | Or that woman have long hairs, guy don't | Nov 20 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Totally arbitrary to a degree | Nov 20 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Peacocks don't think of each other as gay | Nov 20 22:42 |
| Ender2071 | on mine your blue | Nov 20 22:42 |
| Ender2071 | techrightsbot is purple tho | Nov 20 22:42 |
| schestowitz | And sometimes the females in animals have what we see as "male" colours | Nov 20 22:42 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: ml2mst and Ziomatrix are blue on mine | Nov 20 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Only one is pink | Nov 20 22:43 |
| Ender2071 | same | Nov 20 22:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't know how colours get allocated | Nov 20 22:43 |
| schestowitz | I could never figure it out | Nov 20 22:43 |
| schestowitz | But it's FOSS, I could look | Nov 20 22:43 |
| schestowitz | The HTML logging tool has another algo, xchat too | Nov 20 22:44 |
| MinceR | could be a truncated hash of the nick | Nov 20 22:44 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: blue? what does that mean? | Nov 20 22:44 |
| MinceR | for example | Nov 20 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody now I'm curious. Is this execution of gays meant to be anti-discriminatory thing? Are we insane? Abolition of death penalty NOW! | Nov 20 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] With Kinect, has Microsoft inadvertently created a bigger product that they expected? http://bit.ly/blf8ei | Nov 20 22:44 | |
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| Ender2071 | mincer - Adam Weishapt even had plans to take out any religion they couldn't bend | Nov 20 22:44 |
| MinceR | btw it's Weishaupt | Nov 20 22:45 |
| Ender2071 | yeah i know | Nov 20 22:45 |
| Ender2071 | sorry | Nov 20 22:45 |
| Ender2071 | keept forgetting the u | Nov 20 22:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] With Kinect, has Microsoft inadvertently created a potentially more pervasive technology than they expected? http://bit.ly/blf8ei | Nov 20 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Congress Isn't So Concerned With TSA Nude Scans & Gropes: They Get To Skip Them http://is.gd/hv3qa #TSA officers see naked kids. | Nov 20 22:45 | |
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| Ziomatrix | That was only after MS tried to shut down unofficial KINect drivers through legal means only to realize later it helped create some non astro-turf hype for their faultering product: http://tinyurl.com/244ewpc | Nov 20 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Microsoft Says Kinect Left Open By Design .::. Size~: 142.36 KB | Nov 20 22:46 |
| Ender2071 | we have this connection with marx and the illuminati/freemasonry | Nov 20 22:46 |
| Ender2071 | they recruited freemasons and subverted the organization | Nov 20 22:46 |
| Ender2071 | and | Nov 20 22:46 |
| Ender2071 | they helped plan the french revolution | Nov 20 22:47 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well its like the popular saying "Let them eat cake." | Nov 20 22:47 |
| Ender2071 | the french revolution funded the american south, who had racist Albert Pike | Nov 20 22:47 |
| Ender2071 | who founded the KKK | Nov 20 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: Let them eat caca | Nov 20 22:48 |
| Ender2071 | the funniest thing I think is this one hegelian dialectic | Nov 20 22:48 |
| Ender2071 | KKK vs Binai Birith | Nov 20 22:48 |
| Ender2071 | both are freemasonic, lolz | Nov 20 22:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Would Lotso (Toy Story 3) be the alter ego of Steve Jobs ??? | Nov 20 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Why Congress Isn't So Concerned With TSA Nude Scans & Gropes: They Get To Skip Them http://is.gd/hv3qa #TSA | Nov 20 22:49 | |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: of course they enjoy the cake | Nov 20 22:49 |
| ml2mst | Thanks everyone, I'm out of here for tonight. Not interested in the relegous/politics stuff | Nov 20 22:49 |
| ml2mst | CU tomorrow... Shalom! | Nov 20 22:49 |
| *ml2mst has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg) | Nov 20 22:49 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I would be interested if an open source programmer got hold of the code involved in those naked image scanning machines to see what the output format is for the image and if it is encrypted in anyway. | Nov 20 22:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @glynmoody ok, I should have read the article first. I still think we are insane, but this is the "ordinary" insanity. | Nov 20 22:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: Creating Pipes in C (LinuxHQ): http://bit.ly/9bxrr1 | Nov 20 22:50 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: perhaps through wardriving a bystandard at an airport can get ahold of some free pr0n | Nov 20 22:51 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: perhaps if someone leaked the sourcecode and it was widespread that these devices have majory zero day exploits pundits would be more concerned too. | Nov 20 22:52 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: I wouldn't be surprised considering the track record of DieBold electronic voting machines. | Nov 20 22:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @seccubus: DHS airport spooks stalk star hacker • The Register: http://bit.ly/dvq1pH -The trouble @moxie__ and @ioerror have at DHS/TSA. | Nov 20 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DHS airport spooks stalk star hacker • The Register .::. Size~: 23.09 KB | Nov 20 22:54 |
| Ziomatrix | Its like every company our government contracts for even the most basic things is some kind of Enron. That must say a lot about those involved in the budget sub-commitees: http://tinyurl.com/33pm34s | Nov 20 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legal Briefing: Electronic Voting Machine Maker Diebold Cooked Its Books - DailyFinance .::. Size~: 80.02 KB | Nov 20 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] multihead plasma desktop needs YOU! http://is.gd/hv59J !kde has the best desktop experience with #plasma | Nov 20 22:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: aseigo: multihead plasma desktop needs YOU! .::. Size~: 92.68 KB | Nov 20 22:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox vs. Explorer: Which is better? http://is.gd/hv5mZ back to 2005....? "finally won me over." | Nov 20 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I Love Thunderbird 3.x http://is.gd/hv5uV I love you too, Thunderbird. :-) My most used app, by far | Nov 20 22:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !KDE 4 Look Part 2: #Amarok 2.3.2 in KDE 4.5 and Fedora 14 http://is.gd/hv6Xj | Nov 20 23:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Maulwurfn müde....... | Nov 20 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] We need someone like Jesse Ventura for President. Jesse Ventura 2012! If you agree, sign the petition @ http://is.gd/hv7Fd | Nov 20 23:10 | |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: ideally, yeah | Nov 20 23:13 |
| schestowitz | But it's unlikely to happen | Nov 20 23:13 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall the name of the dude who makes a fortune selling those pornographic xray-scattering machines] | Nov 20 23:14 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: George Soros? | Nov 20 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Routing is not traffic ergo China did not hijack 15% of the Net (Computerworld); http://bit.ly/cKkQgE | Nov 20 23:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China did not hijack 15% of the Net, counters researcher - Computerworld .::. Size~: 81.35 KB | Nov 20 23:17 |
| schestowitz | No | Nov 20 23:18 |
| schestowitz | Not well known | Nov 20 23:18 |
| Ender2071 | Soros lol | Nov 20 23:18 |
| Ender2071 | the man who said the US needed a regime change | Nov 20 23:19 |
| Ender2071 | damn communist | Nov 20 23:19 |
| Ender2071 | he is making a killing off the porno scanners | Nov 20 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Wow. that is definitely bacon cider! | Nov 20 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith all that talk about politics... set a Cuban version of the Internationale as ring tone :) | Nov 20 23:22 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: its Michael Chertoff: http://tinyurl.com/39u8twe | Nov 20 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/11/19/canonical-works-to-clarify-the-ubuntu-brand/ | Nov 20 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical Works to Clarify the Ubuntu Brand | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 55.44 KB | Nov 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: yup! | Nov 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Ender2071: the us doesn't need a regime change | Nov 20 23:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Why Congress Isn't So Concerned With TSA Nude Scans & Gropes: They Get To Skip Them http://is.gd/hv3qa #TSA officers see ... | Nov 20 23:25 | |
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| schestowitz | It needs the regime overthrown and replaced with a real 'government' | Nov 20 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Elected by people, not PR people paid by corporation | Nov 20 23:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: extend US unemployment benefits http://ur1.ca/2e4d1 | Nov 20 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @sebasmagri Do you want a #libre compliant kernel in !gentoo !linux? just add deblob to its USE flags... | Nov 20 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA careers: grope for a living, inquire inside | Nov 20 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Ehehehe, I would prefer La Marseillaise. ;-) | Nov 20 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA is not a company, it's more like a policy. Criticising TSA is simply mocking public policy, asking for correction. | Nov 20 23:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Who funds OMGubuntu ??? | Nov 20 23:30 | |
| MinceR | is that not a "regime change"? | Nov 20 23:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA is not an American problem, and it does not affects just passenger who go to America. TSA can set standards for world, with #Chertoff | Nov 20 23:32 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: well people like Chertoff were never elected by popular or even electoral vote but rather appointed by higher executives. | Nov 20 23:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who becomes filthy rich from pornographic x-ray scatterers? Michael Chertoff http://tinyurl.com/39u8twe | Nov 20 23:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - TSA Revolt: Naked screening lobby pushes for profit, not privacy? .::. Size~: 149.46 KB | Nov 20 23:34 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: all that needs to be done is elect a President and enough members of congress that would cut the bodgets of and do a clean sweep of these agencies such as Homeland Security | Nov 20 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Yup | Nov 20 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If unauthorised people offer that you do something humiliating and insist you should no worry about it, do worry. Learn from history. | Nov 20 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: I already did it, it should cause a few strange looks :) | Nov 20 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Who becomes filthy rich from pornographic x-ray scatterers? Michael Chertoff http://tinyurl.com/39u8twe | Nov 20 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz #TSA is not a company, it's more like a policy. Criticising TSA is simply mocking public policy, asking for correction. | Nov 20 23:35 | |
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| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: unfortunately both major incumbent parties are filled with people that pander to these special interests in return for cushy jobs as consulting and spokespeople | Nov 20 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Yheah | Nov 20 23:37 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: if people start flying as often as how it was like the day after 9/11 then maybe they'll sing a different tune | Nov 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | But we need to expose this beter | Nov 20 23:37 |
| schestowitz | *better | Nov 20 23:37 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: but the problem is comfort and, a percieved need to fly to go places (ecspecially trans-oceanic) will keep enough profit for airports and airlines to condone these draconian measures. | Nov 20 23:38 |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: either that or perhaps the TSA will take their full-body scanning show to major train stations and bus terminals too | Nov 20 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz #TSA is just a "US problem" as much as #Microsoft is just a "US problem" and #Monsanto is just a "US problem". #cattleeffect | Nov 20 23:39 | |
| schestowitz | "Oh, then we've probably had this conversation before.. Sorry! " Oh, then we've probably had this conversation before.. Sorry! :-) | Nov 20 23:39 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/58430434#notice-58992147 | Nov 20 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | Ziomatrix: and office builings | Nov 20 23:40 |
| schestowitz | *buildings | Nov 20 23:40 |
| schestowitz | I can't type | Nov 20 23:40 |
| schestowitz | too tired, gn | Nov 20 23:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: gn | Nov 20 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: @TSA is just a "US problem" as much as #Microsoft is just a "US problem" and #Monsanto is just a "US problem". #cattleeffect | Nov 20 23:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: If unauthorised people offer that you do something humiliating and insist you should no worry about it, do worry. | Nov 20 23:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Who becomes filthy rich from pornographic x-ray scatterers? Michael Chertoff http://tinyurl.com/39u8twe | Nov 20 23:40 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: then | Nov 20 23:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: TSA is not an American problem, and it does not affects just passenger who go to America. TSA can set standards for world. | Nov 20 23:42 | |
| Ziomatrix | schestowitz: this is not the first time the US has flirted with the a rape of our Constitution courtesy of special interests, ie there was the Alien and Sedition Acts: http://tinyurl.com/lp3dp As well as the Jim Crow laws that were Supreme Court precedents that allowed southern segregation to flourish. Its like the popular peacenik saying from gospel, "We shall overcome." :-) | Nov 20 23:42 |
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| Ziomatrix | amyway I'll bbl, thanks | Nov 20 23:43 |
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| gnufreex | "OpenSUSE is far from dead, but still, overall, OpenSUSE will never be a top distribution unless it disconnects from Novell and does something amazing. Microsoft crushed Novell, which is now waiting for good buyers. More on that in a later post. █" schestowitz: Is that post coming, or should I go to sleep? :-) | Nov 20 23:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RD @hgfernan: Fear has overwhelmed justice, justice has overwhelmed mercy and the war on terror is over. We lost. Simon Phipps #q | Nov 20 23:49 | |
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| oiaohm | gnufreex: Or Novell returns to sanity when there deal with MS ends. | Nov 20 23:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] http://arc-international.net/press-releases/eje-vote-nov-2010.htm ‘deeply disappointed’? they should be fucking livid #IGLHRC #hr #execution | Nov 20 23:50 | |
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| gnufreex | oiaohm: No way, there is few reasons why that is impossible. | Nov 20 23:51 |
| gnufreex | First, they depend on M$ patents now. | Nov 20 23:52 |
| gnufreex | If they decide not to work for Microsoft, they need to kill Mono and lots of their products. | Nov 20 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: CS360 Lecture notes -- Dup: http://bit.ly/deFYXv | Nov 20 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @shwood: Risk of cancer from TSA scanners pegged at 1 in 30 mil. The same odds as your plane being blown up by terrorists: bit.ly/bOXKHy | Nov 20 23:52 | |
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| oiaohm | Has that stopped MS from backstabing there helpers before. | Nov 20 23:52 |
| oiaohm | I more see it as Microsoft refusing to renew for affordable value so forcing Novell to walk away. gnufreex | Nov 20 23:53 |
| gnufreex | Well, when deal gets for renewal, it will be funny. | Nov 20 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Ie not a willing Novell selection. | Nov 20 23:53 |
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| gnufreex | Microsoft will ask more money for renew | Nov 20 23:53 |
| gnufreex | They actually paid novell first time. | Nov 20 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Nov 20 23:54 |
| gnufreex | Now they are going to choke them with royalties. | Nov 20 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Novell problem is they have not been creating new patents. | Nov 20 23:54 |
| sebsebseb | gnufreex: ♺ @schestowitz: #OpenSUSE Left Behind While !GNU !Linux Still Flies Ahead http://is.gd/huRgv | Nov 20 23:54 |
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| sebsebseb | gnufreex: maybe your after that, and schestowitz went to bed | Nov 20 23:54 |
| oiaohm | So patents that forced MS to pay the first time lot of them will be expired. gnufreex | Nov 20 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Yes a hot foot is coming and the writing is on the wall. | Nov 20 23:55 |
| gnufreex | Problem is that Microsoft didn't tell Novell exact patents, there was probably no infringement (except for Mono). | Nov 20 23:55 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 20 23:56 |
| gnufreex | Now, Novell has some patents expired, and they recklessly infringed M$'s patents like there is no tomorow. | Nov 20 23:56 |
| gnufreex | Now M$ can ask for billions. | Nov 20 23:56 |
| oiaohm | And MS has taken more patents on .net since then. | Nov 20 23:56 |
| gnufreex | Yeah | Nov 20 23:56 |
| oiaohm | Exactly Novell has set themselves up for a nice hot foot. | Nov 20 23:57 |
| gnufreex | And Novell coded some products in C#. | Nov 20 23:57 |
| gnufreex | Or did they? | Nov 20 23:57 |
| gnufreex | With every program that uses mono, value of Microsoft patents rise. | Nov 20 23:57 |
| oiaohm | Nothing in the Novell deal says MS has to split profits from .net patents with them. | Nov 20 23:58 |
| gnufreex | I am not sure if Novell has proprietary products that use Mono. They maybe don't eat their dogfood. | Nov 20 23:58 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: I didn't say that. | Nov 20 23:58 |
| gnufreex | But there is secret part of deal. | Nov 20 23:59 |
| gnufreex | maybe there is some clause that makes money for novell to infect FLOSS with Microsoft patents. | Nov 20 23:59 |
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