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| gnufreex | Deal looks damn stupid if there is no such clause. | Nov 21 00:00 |
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| gnufreex | I don't know why NOvell is pushing Mono then. | Nov 21 00:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Watching CNN makes me think maybe somebody should actually nuke Washington. The Capital Wasteland seems more appealing... | Nov 21 00:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: Ante Juiz de Direito, Carrefour e Lenovo colocam o rabo entre as pernas e vão ressarcir o valor do rWindows: http://ur1.ca/2dsqk | Nov 21 00:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Maulwurfn schlafn! | Nov 21 00:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: blablabla » Blog Archive » Fim .::. Size~: 12.06 KB | Nov 21 00:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @psquid: @fabsh Three Dog > CNN | Nov 21 00:04 | |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: Does Novell use C# in their products? | Nov 21 00:04 |
| gnufreex | I can't find that info. | Nov 21 00:04 |
| gnufreex | (I mean proprietary products, not banshee and such) | Nov 21 00:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mannö! Maulwurfn jetzt wirklich schlafn!! | Nov 21 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @evan: “Why iambik doesn’t use DRM” — http://iambik.com/blog/2010/11/19/why-iambik-doesnt-use-drm/ | Nov 21 00:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why iambik doesnt use DRM | the iamb .::. Size~: 12.85 KB | Nov 21 00:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I have just finnished listening to !techbytes Episode 10, which means I have listended to all of them so far including the pillot. :) | Nov 21 00:12 | |
| *dwasifar (46831104@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.131.17.4) has joined #techrights | Nov 21 00:14 | |
| dwasifar | Anyone here? | Nov 21 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | away schestowitz: probably away _Goblin maybe here cubezzz probably here just about oiaohm and away MinceR and maybe still here just about gnufreex Feels good to be up to date with techbytes :) | Nov 21 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: I am | Nov 21 00:15 |
| dwasifar | Hey there | Nov 21 00:15 |
| dwasifar | Popped in to have a word with schestowitz | Nov 21 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: well hes gone to bed | Nov 21 00:16 |
| dwasifar | k. | Nov 21 00:16 |
| dwasifar | Know how I can contact him a bit more directly? I kind of object to being characterized as "hostile to GNU/Linux" in the latest piece. I'm not, at all. I use Linux exclusively. | Nov 21 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: oh who are you | Nov 21 00:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: RT @BobJonkman: @nsisodiya sez: We srsly need to blacklist proprietary driver & hardware from market ... http://bit.ly/dteg3G | Nov 21 00:17 | |
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| sebsebseb | and I just listended to Episode 10 | Nov 21 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: this is a great way to chat to him, when he is here, which is most of the time, it seems | Nov 21 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: oh peice you blog entry? | Nov 21 00:18 |
| dwasifar | yeah | Nov 21 00:18 |
| sebsebseb | you mean blog entry? not the techbytes audio cast? | Nov 21 00:18 |
| dwasifar | yes | Nov 21 00:18 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: ok i'lll have a look uhmm so the one about | Nov 21 00:19 |
| dwasifar | "OpenSUSE Left Behind While GNU/Linux Still Flies Ahead" | Nov 21 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | ah yes that one | Nov 21 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | read that a little while ago, to be honest I don't read most of his blog enteries | Nov 21 00:19 |
| dwasifar | I won't tell him you said so :) | Nov 21 00:20 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: Yes that is the thing I cannot find Novell using C# and .net in house. Very much like they don't trusted it either. | Nov 21 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: I have already told him that before, plus hes in here, but away, and this channel also gets publically logged | Nov 21 00:20 |
| dwasifar | I'm sure. :) was j/k | Nov 21 00:20 |
| dwasifar | anyway | Nov 21 00:21 |
| dwasifar | I'll try him later | Nov 21 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: wait | Nov 21 00:21 |
| dwasifar | k | Nov 21 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | whats the name for you in the article? | Nov 21 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | and I want to say something on the subject to you, but let me just read the bit again first | Nov 21 00:22 |
| dwasifar | he links to my blog at www.dwasifar.com and describes it as "and a person who is usually quite hostile towards GNU/Linux intends to give OpenSUSE a go" | Nov 21 00:22 |
| _Goblin | Evening..... | Nov 21 00:23 |
| dwasifar | sebsebseb: I think it's an oversight | Nov 21 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: ok found the bit | Nov 21 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | so you use Kubuntu? | Nov 21 00:24 |
| dwasifar | I was testing it. I typically use Ubuntu proper. Right at the moment I'm on a Mint machine | Nov 21 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: hmm if you had done Episode 11 this evening, then I may have still been behind on the audio cast by an episode hmm | Nov 21 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: well stuff like this happens, a blog or article, and junk talk about someone else, that may not be true | Nov 21 00:25 |
| _Goblin | Yeah ive been really busy with "real life"..! | Nov 21 00:25 |
| dwasifar | sebsebseb: I'm concerned about where Gnome is headed, and about Ubuntu switching to Unity with the next release, so I'm trying out KDE in case I need it in the future | Nov 21 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: happens about techrights/boycottnovell quite a bit | Nov 21 00:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @fabsh teachin da furrin talk? Dat's Un'merican! | Nov 21 00:25 | |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: yeah you | Nov 21 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | I read your | Nov 21 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | blog entr the other day | Nov 21 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | throwing in the towel | Nov 21 00:26 |
| dwasifar | sebsebseb: Thanks, that's good to hear | Nov 21 00:26 |
| dwasifar | sometimes I feel like I'm writing to nobody | Nov 21 00:26 |
| dwasifar | but that one got a lot of comments | Nov 21 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: yeah I got onto it from an identica link or Linux Today or whatever, but yeah it was good read | Nov 21 00:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] anybody know how to import svgs into blender 2.55? it seems to be gone from the import menu :( | Nov 21 00:27 | |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: to be honest though, if I was you, I woudn't bother with, Ubuntu, or anything based on it such as Kubuntu, but also not to bother with OpenSuse | Nov 21 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva :) | Nov 21 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | and when its made the Mageia fork as well :) | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | sebsebseb: I did actually try openSUSE, and it was fine until suddenly it wasn't any more :) Just haven't written that up yet | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | I downloaded Mandriva | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | haven't burned it yet | Nov 21 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | plus there are good distros such as PC Linux OS, which was based on Mandriva | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | real life intervenes | Nov 21 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: and your new to blogging about Linux yes? | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | no | Nov 21 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | I've been writing about Linux since I started that blog | Nov 21 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | ok which was when? | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | I think it's been three years now | Nov 21 00:28 |
| dwasifar | April 2008 | Nov 21 00:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] More fake elections http://ur1.ca/2e4rj | Nov 21 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] oh nevermind, apparently it isn't possible. yay, i'm not dumb. | Nov 21 00:29 | |
| sebsebseb | sometimes people say stuff about someone else on a blog, that isn't really true | Nov 21 00:29 |
| dwasifar | so 2.5 years | Nov 21 00:29 |
| dwasifar | Yeah, I think it was just a mistake. Schestowitz has picked up my stuff before | Nov 21 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | I have seen it about techrights/boycottnovell basically calling everyone Mono haters, from Steven J. Vaghen Nicholas before, or something like that | Nov 21 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | which is so far from the truth | Nov 21 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | not everyone who comes here hates Mono | Nov 21 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah that for example | Nov 21 00:30 |
| dwasifar | I hate mono. I had it when I was in 4th grade and was sick for three weeks. :) | Nov 21 00:30 |
| dwasifar | Sorry | Nov 21 00:30 |
| dwasifar | couldn't resist | Nov 21 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Nov 21 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | anyway yeah I think schestwoitz didn't mean to offend by it really | Nov 21 00:30 |
| dwasifar | yeah, Bad wordplay, I can't help it | Nov 21 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | he just typed it for whatever reason/s | Nov 21 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | in the Suse article | Nov 21 00:31 |
| dwasifar | yeah, I think you're right | Nov 21 00:31 |
| dwasifar | I'll check back later and see if I can catch him | Nov 21 00:31 |
| sebsebseb | it was a good blog entry, but think about it, how many people are going to take it really seriously anyway? | Nov 21 00:31 |
| sebsebseb | since who it was written by | Nov 21 00:31 |
| dwasifar | Gotta fly, wife wants to go to dinner | Nov 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: maybe he'll edit if you ask or somethign, but its not really a big deal | Nov 21 00:32 |
| dwasifar | back later, I'll see you if you're on then. Nice to meet ya | Nov 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | dwasifar: also if you want to stick around in this channel or something, well we have quite a nice channel here :) | Nov 21 00:32 |
| dwasifar | looks that way | Nov 21 00:32 |
| dwasifar | gotta head out now tho | Nov 21 00:32 |
| dwasifar | see ya | Nov 21 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | ok bye | Nov 21 00:32 |
| *dwasifar has quit (Quit: Page closed) | Nov 21 00:32 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yes saw I saw from idnetica notice that went here | Nov 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | being a husband and a wife | Nov 21 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | so I saw, above | Nov 21 00:33 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Nov 21 00:34 |
| _Goblin | Im not a wife! | Nov 21 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | also uh | Nov 21 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh | Nov 21 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | I was meant to type | Nov 21 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | being a husband and a Dad | Nov 21 00:34 |
| _Goblin | it was a take on the Robocop slogan "Part Husband Part Dad, all foss"....Robocop had "Part Man, Part Machine, All cop" | Nov 21 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 21 00:35 |
| _Goblin | and the other quote.... | Nov 21 00:35 |
| _Goblin | "Windows is a disease, Linux is the cure" is taken from the film Cobra, which has "Crime is a disease, he is the cure" | Nov 21 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] new uses for Plasma::KPart are appearing: this time for a dynamic (and reusable!) app "welcome widget" with recent doc/project listings, etc | Nov 21 00:35 | |
| sebsebseb | oh right ok | Nov 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I started listening to the audio cast on the 17th I think it was | Nov 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | with the pillot and yep done all so far hmm | Nov 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | that was quite a lot | Nov 21 00:36 |
| _Goblin | ah...yes... | Nov 21 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | in the last few days, I mean to do that | Nov 21 00:37 |
| _Goblin | its practice if nothing else... | Nov 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | no I meant listening to it, was quite a lot | Nov 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | quite a lot of listening | Nov 21 00:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i need to blog about how Plasma::KPart works as 4.6 approaches. it's a rather different design to how most app devs are used to thinking. | Nov 21 00:37 | |
| _Goblin | yeah....I can imagine....I think the idea is that people just get the most current one......we try to keep up to date. | Nov 21 00:37 |
| sebsebseb | and doing all so far including the pilllot in the last few or so days, like I just done, is a lot of listening in those | Nov 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | yes I think many won't bother with the previous episodes | Nov 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | or a lot of them, when starting now, but yeah | Nov 21 00:38 |
| _Goblin | thats the idea....if you miss some it doesn't matter, theres always a more recent one. | Nov 21 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | altough there was a guy here earlier, who had listended to Episode 1, but would listen to others as well | Nov 21 00:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] also: i just bought a 1000 CHF tailor made suit for 400 CHF. deindeal.ch ftw! now i just have to get myself over there for the consult. :) | Nov 21 00:39 | |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: Episode 9 Mageia stuff :D mentioned that to Thisleweb here earlier, you my have missed that, as far as I know its an Anicent Greek word that means Magic | Nov 21 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | and if that gets mentioned on audio cast before I chat on there, I want mentioning :D | Nov 21 00:40 |
| _Goblin | oh right. | Nov 21 00:40 |
| _Goblin | I missed that conversation....Ive been quite busy.... | Nov 21 00:40 |
| _Goblin | yep, I'll remember to mention you! | Nov 21 00:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ooh, new QML KDE Mobile stuff lands! QtComponent widgets in pure QML in KDE's playground, thx to marco and morepheuz @ KDE mobile sprint. | Nov 21 00:40 | |
| sebsebseb | also maybe at some stage or whatever, can get an actsaul Mageia founder to chat on it, he has done some other audio cast, that i'll listen to soon :) | Nov 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | not tonight | Nov 21 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | and maybe i'll talk on there next week, depending what happens regarding Skype and such | Nov 21 00:41 |
| _Goblin | Skype was a bit problematic this last ep....I think though there were connection problems at Roys end. | Nov 21 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | I don't have it set up personally on this computer, but others here have it or one or whatever, and yeah | Nov 21 00:42 |
| sebsebseb | can sort Skype out if I have a reason to use it really | Nov 21 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | not sure when I am going PC Linux OS, maybe Monday | Nov 21 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | for a bit | Nov 21 00:43 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah not much point trying to install much software in this Fedora install | Nov 21 00:43 |
| _Goblin | not keen with Fedora? | Nov 21 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | had issues | Nov 21 00:44 |
| _Goblin | ah | Nov 21 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | that I still have, since I haven't like really tried to get fixed | Nov 21 00:44 |
| _Goblin | Im publishing a review of Fusion shortly..... | Nov 21 00:44 |
| _Goblin | first time Ive really spent time with Fedora. | Nov 21 00:45 |
| gnufreex | I am messing with Rakudo perl in fedora. | Nov 21 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | plus it lacks nice features like control centre and so on, the kind of features Mandriva and I guess Mint and OpenSuse have as well | Nov 21 00:45 |
| gnufreex | Crazy stuff. | Nov 21 00:45 |
| _Goblin | Ive been playing with Devpac2 in E-UAE | Nov 21 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | and of cousre PC Linux OS has the Mandriva Control Centre, since it was a fork, and that Unity Linux a PCLOS fork | Nov 21 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I don't really follow much of whats going on with Fedora | Nov 21 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | I don't really care that much about it | Nov 21 00:46 |
| sebsebseb | I mean yeah its ok for people that know how to use a Linux distro, and don't mind installing a 3rd party program for codecs or whatever, or develloeprs or whatever, but its not realy for the average consumer really | Nov 21 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | neither is Ubuntu anymore though really, if they want a properly good distro, which yep most of their new users seem to want | Nov 21 00:47 |
| sebsebseb | point is Fedora isn't really one that is about gaining a more proper market share against WIndows or Mac OS X | Nov 21 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | and it doesn't really have any of the proper like user friendlyness of distros such as Mandriva, that are set up for those kind of users, and very much so | Nov 21 00:48 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: also it seems to me that, Fedora is being hyped up a little bit to much at the moment, like Ubuntu | Nov 21 00:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @thornet National patriotism is outdated. Teach me instead how to be a citizen of the world. | Nov 21 00:49 | |
| _Goblin | The Gnome bug fix release has been giving me issues.....on closing VLC I loose my Windows borders....have to keep reloading my Windows manager... | Nov 21 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | like Fedora is so great or something, uhmm trying out Fedora 13 and then upgrading 14, and getting those issues I had and so on, and starting off with Fedora Core 2 and 4, but offline, well its changed quite a lot since then, from how I remmeber 2 and 4, Redhat logo and such, and well it seems there isn't really anything special in Fedora for those average consumer new users | Nov 21 00:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @johnsu01 Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of !fsf !lp. Fortunately we already have a fix for th ... | Nov 21 00:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Facebook Messaging Continues to Block Some Links | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 81.78 KB | Nov 21 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: even Sabayon would probably be better, for a lot of people really, than Fedora | Nov 21 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | and definetly later versiosn of Ubuntu starting with 9.10 | Nov 21 00:51 |
| _Goblin | Ive just deployed Sabayon to a new user.... | Nov 21 00:51 |
| _Goblin | its rather good all round distro | Nov 21 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | however for a new user, the only distros I can recommend at the moment, are Mandriva and PC Linux OS | Nov 21 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | and yes it would be Mandriva mainly | Nov 21 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva wins though, because of defaults | Nov 21 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | themes I like, uhmm software it comes with, and so on | Nov 21 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: also personally I think that maybe you shoudl stop recommending Ubuntu to new users, because as you know, distros such as Sabayon, and Mandriva, are going to be better for most/loads of them really :D and that Ubuntu is going hmm now, because of how it will use Unity by default for Ubuntu 11.04 desktop, and its copy right assignments on that | Nov 21 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | and that Ubuntu is all hype | Nov 21 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and Mint is only slightly better to recommend if its the Ubuntu version, if its LMDE though :D I guess | Nov 21 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | in my eyes | Nov 21 00:54 |
| _Goblin | I personally don't think the Unity move is a bad one....theres plenty of choice should users not want it and I think the brand name of Ubuntu helps tackle the monopoly of MS on the desktop | Nov 21 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and I think it was basically even mentioned on the show, how people can get locked into Ubuntu | Nov 21 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | and thats what is happening now and has been happening well since 2004/5 really | Nov 21 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: many don't know about the choice of other distros properly that use Ubuntu, and many won't just find out either | Nov 21 00:56 |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: but what lockin can Canonical realistically enforce? Ubuntu One? .....I personally would use dropbox anyway so I don't see where the Canonical lockin would occur | Nov 21 00:56 |
| sebsebseb | well the Unity interface is lock in really if thats what users are used to, and other distros refuse to at least provide it in their repos as an option | Nov 21 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | and apparently it uses quite a lot of non upstream stuff as well, so thats not so easy to do | Nov 21 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: however it seems Gnome Shell is going a bit more Unity like | Nov 21 00:58 |
| _Goblin | but then (for example) I chose Sabayon Gnome....I don't want any other DE.....if you take the packages that the average Ubuntu user will use, you will find that in any repo and I don't think it would lock anyone into it..... | Nov 21 00:58 |
| _Goblin | Linux Mint is a good choice for those not wanting to go with Canonical to Unity | Nov 21 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | except Mint will probably end up supporting Unity or Gnome Shell, or both, eventualley | Nov 21 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | and have one as its default | Nov 21 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | look | Nov 21 00:59 |
| _Goblin | I thought Mint was no longer deriving itself from Ubuntu anyway..... | Nov 21 01:00 |
| _Goblin | I thought as of the next ver (or maybe this one) it was dropping its Ubuntu roots | Nov 21 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | as ThistelWeb said in the audio cast I belive, and if so yep he is correct, the main version will be based on Ubuntu for now, and that will be quite a long time | Nov 21 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | and yes LMDE as an option as well for those that want it | Nov 21 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | LMDE is just a like side project still | Nov 21 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | and its been out a while now, but still quite new really | Nov 21 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | maybe one day it will become the main version, but that could be a few years yet | Nov 21 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | the Ubuntu based version is staying for quite a while yet | Nov 21 01:01 |
| sebsebseb | it seems | Nov 21 01:02 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: anyway next year, i'll have another distro, that I can recommend to new users :) yep Mageia | Nov 21 01:03 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: also the thing with getting people using Gnome 2 now, is that look is on the verge of becoming the old look, oh sure there will be a way to use a similar look with Gnome 3, but things will be about Gnome Shell, but with Ubuntu mainly Unity | Nov 21 01:04 |
| _Goblin | Im happy with 2.32.1 (or whatever) at the moment....like I say though I could shift to Xfce in an instant.... | Nov 21 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | so if I was going to recommend a new user, Gnome at the moment, I would tell them, also to not get to used to the look, because of how Gnome Shell is coming and such | Nov 21 01:05 |
| _Goblin | or even Enlightenment....Im seeing some great things.... | Nov 21 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe KDE | Nov 21 01:06 |
| _Goblin | nah.... | Nov 21 01:06 |
| _Goblin | never liked KDE | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | oh Mandriva does KDE 4.3 so good, so good | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | I didn't like KDE 4 | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | as a desktop environment at all | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | untill | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | I tried Mandriva with KDE 4.3 :) | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | Kubuntu was like no! | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva was like yes! | Nov 21 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | and Mandriva was like even more yes, once I enabled that background changer slide show, with those nice pictures it has and yeah :) | Nov 21 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | KDE 3 was alright, but I would still mainly use Gnome, when things were about KDE 3 | Nov 21 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | when KDE 3 was the latest no 4 yet | Nov 21 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: also I hope you actsually tell people that you get using a Linux distro, what they are about, as in the software freedoms | Nov 21 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | maybe even show them or give them the link to | Nov 21 01:10 |
| sebsebseb | gnu.org and then philsophey section even | Nov 21 01:10 |
| _Goblin | its an interesting question though "software freedom" | Nov 21 01:10 |
| _Goblin | let me put this to you..... | Nov 21 01:10 |
| _Goblin | say you developed a package that was the best of its kind. It was your own code and there was nothing to match it on the market.....don't you, as a developer have a right or freedom to release it as closed source? | Nov 21 01:11 |
| _Goblin | for me software freedom is about freedom for developers too. | Nov 21 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: maybe even explain to them, that they are meant to replace something called Unix, they were never realy mean to replace Windows, except for more modern ones such as Mandrake/Mandrake and Ubuntu, its just they can do a lot Windows can in these past few years, because of how they are made | Nov 21 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and theres a good article as well on the web, Linux is not Windows | Nov 21 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | its long, but does a comparision, like between a car and a moter cycle and such | Nov 21 01:12 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah its a good read :) | Nov 21 01:13 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yes the developer has the right to release it under whatever lisense they want basicalley | Nov 21 01:13 |
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| _Goblin | so then really, software freedom is a matter not only of concern to the end-user but also the developer and pressure should not be put on either to choose one path or another.... | Nov 21 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | however ideally most programs should be released as opensource/freesoftware so that other developers can contribute, but I have an example where, someone made a program only them, Mercurey Messenger, and it seems the only reason its closed source is, because they didn't want anyone else to help them make it as well | Nov 21 01:14 |
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| _Goblin | now conversely, it happens that FOSS ethos and FOSS packages are far better (for me) than their proprietary alternatives, however that may change in the future.... | Nov 21 01:15 |
| sebsebseb | my actusal computer useage, what I tend to do on the computer, I can do just fine on a Linux distro, I don't need Windows | Nov 21 01:15 |
| _Goblin | I personally don't support FOSS because its FOSS, I support it because its better software. | Nov 21 01:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] hm, mo + blender + x61 = egg fry surface. | Nov 21 01:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody The natural consequence of true democracy is for the uneducated bigotry of the majority to eventually dominate. | Nov 21 01:15 | |
| sebsebseb | well meant to support it, because its FLOSS really, not just that :D | Nov 21 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't really used Banshee in a while, but uhmm I was using it, because I found it better than Rythombox and didn't really like Amarok | Nov 21 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | the fact that something called Mono runs it, that is like a Microsoft technology, doesn't put me off using such programs, it really doesn't | Nov 21 01:17 |
| sebsebseb | I'l use F-Spot sometimes even, why, because its a nice program really, altough from what I seen of Shotwell thats a good replecment anyway | Nov 21 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and i'll use Flash and MP3 as well, no problem | Nov 21 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | I don't have some kind of issue using Flash and MP3, but now then | Nov 21 01:18 |
| _Goblin | me too.... | Nov 21 01:18 |
| _Goblin | although Flash I can probably do without now. | Nov 21 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah the audio casts were offered in OGG and MP3, to begin with I just listended on site, but then started downloading, but which format did I download in? | Nov 21 01:19 |
| _Goblin | my gfx drivers are proprietary | Nov 21 01:19 |
| sebsebseb | I could probably replace Flash with Gnash or Swfdec mabye now for my useage, but something about using the original product | Nov 21 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | Adobe Flash | Nov 21 01:20 |
| _Goblin | Right....Im off to bed I think | Nov 21 01:20 |
| _Goblin | been a busy day.# | Nov 21 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | and to be honest I think instead of them making Gnash or Swfdec it would have been better for them to make an alternative | Nov 21 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: and yeah I was downlloading in OGG, because open format | Nov 21 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | and also Totem plays them with the animation thing, like Windows media player :D | Nov 21 01:21 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ok night | Nov 21 01:21 |
| _Goblin | I'll speak with you later sebsebseb , nice talking to you! | Nov 21 01:21 |
| _Goblin | gn | Nov 21 01:21 |
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| Guest89189 | VCSY filed lawsuits claiming that Android infringes two VCSY patents. | Nov 21 01:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Predictable surrender http://ur1.ca/2e51u | Nov 21 01:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] many hours later. i reverted to vista for the #fam. xp driver problems was driving me batty | Nov 21 01:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Amusingly, I put the BBC News channel right at the bit when they were talking about the rugby | Nov 21 01:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Waking up suddently, and finding out that Yamato just froze, means I'm _very_ much screwed. | Nov 21 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ufa: Na Justiça, varejista ressarce licença indesejada do Windows http://tinyurl.com/2g8yru9 | Nov 21 01:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @joaofernando: a Revista @EspiritoLivre está precisando de revisores e diagramadores (Scribus). Quem quiser contribuir entre em contato! | Nov 21 02:01 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: Part of the problem as a KDE use I had used digikam for a long time so find F-Spot barly functional. | Nov 21 02:05 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: oh ok | Nov 21 02:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] ♻ @rahulsundaram Just finished voting in the #Fedora Elections. Pick your choice of candidates at http://ur1.ca/02gzy | Nov 21 02:05 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.digikam.org/drupal/about?q=about/features | Nov 21 02:07 |
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| oiaohm | And when you think digiKam is not offically a image editor. sebsebseb | Nov 21 02:08 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: I didn't say it wasn't | Nov 21 02:08 |
| oiaohm | F-Spot that suposed is losing to it is just down right sad. | Nov 21 02:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: TSA careers: grope for a living, inquire inside | Nov 21 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Who becomes filthy rich from pornographic x-ray scatterers? Michael Chertoff http://tinyurl.com/39u8twe | Nov 21 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: If people offer that you do something humiliating and insist you should not worry about it, do worry. Learn from history. | Nov 21 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: TSA is just a "US problem" as much as #Microsoft is just a "US problem" and #Monsanto is just a "US problem". #cattleeffect | Nov 21 02:09 | |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yeah its Mononess might come and infect you :D | Nov 21 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | if you were to use it | Nov 21 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | to try it | Nov 21 02:10 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: anyway I never said that F-Spot was better than Digikam | Nov 21 02:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @TSAagent: Damn well better believe we'll strip search a kid in the middle of the airport! http://goo.gl/Gh8D2 #TSA #badtouch #TSApedo | Nov 21 02:10 | |
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| oiaohm | At least http://yorba.org/shotwell/ labels what it truly is. | Nov 21 02:12 |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: Without just going on that link, uh what? | Nov 21 02:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink wouldn't that be more accurate after s/true/uneducated/ ? | Nov 21 02:12 | |
| oiaohm | shotwall something like F-Spot written in vala that translates to C. | Nov 21 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | vala is similar to Mono, but the alternative | Nov 21 02:13 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | it most certainly is not | Nov 21 02:13 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | it is a precompiler for C | Nov 21 02:13 |
| oiaohm | vala is a preprocessor to make C code from a C# like syntax input. | Nov 21 02:13 |
| sebsebseb | SuborbitalPigeon: oh your in here | Nov 21 02:13 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | sorry, post processor I mean | Nov 21 02:13 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | damn it, pre | Nov 21 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | well I was going to put or something like that | Nov 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | So vala ends up producing native binaries | Nov 21 02:14 |
| sebsebseb | I don't really follow Mono or Vala stuff :) | Nov 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | That don't depend on a runtime. | Nov 21 02:14 |
| oiaohm | Also vala has a bad habit of showing Mono as the memory hog it is. | Nov 21 02:14 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | it's the same as writing in C, but nicer | Nov 21 02:14 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | allegedly | Nov 21 02:15 |
| oiaohm | Final binaries are no different to if you wrote them in C | Nov 21 02:15 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | unfortunately it suffers from language bloat, which C certainly doesn't | Nov 21 02:15 |
| oiaohm | Writing for a glib interfaces in C also has bloat. SuborbitalPigeon | Nov 21 02:17 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | that's code for "I don't know how to use it" | Nov 21 02:17 |
| sebsebseb | SuborbitalPigeon: hi Bruce89 | Nov 21 02:17 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | hello lowerearthorbitsebsebseb | Nov 21 02:18 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | sorry for the rugby spam here, it'll finish next saturday | Nov 21 02:19 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | oiaohm: indeed, it's certainly verbose, but makes a degree of sense | Nov 21 02:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Off for a family day out on Ubin! #fb | Nov 21 02:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Now Playing: Castlevania, Harmony of Dissonance - On Virtual Boy Advance (Linux) | Nov 21 02:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Peace prize will go uncollected http://ur1.ca/2e5bc | Nov 21 02:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Munich CIO welcomes step towards an independent foundation: http://ur1.ca/2e5bt (German) !libo !tdf | Nov 21 02:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Even #BBCHIGNFY manages to go on about the tedious wedding #MediaObsessedWithSubsidisedGits | Nov 21 02:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @xenijardin: TSA security molestation leaves 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor crying, soaked in own urine. http://is.gd/hvBla #WTFH | Nov 21 02:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @fabsh Fallout 3 in real life | Nov 21 02:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Looks like the Velocity Cruz Tablet is an DOA http://j.mp/cRIEcF !android | Nov 21 02:47 | |
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| ml2mst | Ow, now I have to search for the correct email adress to upload the ogg-vorbis file | Nov 21 02:51 |
| ml2mst | This obviously doesn't work with Xchat | Nov 21 02:51 |
| ml2mst | Oh well, we'll figure this out tomorow. Tomorow is another day ;-) | Nov 21 02:52 |
| ml2mst | Good night! | Nov 21 02:52 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: ok night | Nov 21 02:52 |
| ml2mst | sebsebseb, thought nobody was on IRC, thought I was all on my own ;-) | Nov 21 02:53 |
| ml2mst | hope I didn't scare you | Nov 21 02:54 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | argghhhhh! | Nov 21 02:54 |
| ml2mst | Never intented to. My main reason to be on Techrights IRC is because I love Free Software and GNU/Linux | Nov 21 02:54 |
| ml2mst | No offend intendet | Nov 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: yes yes | Nov 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: welcome to channel then | Nov 21 02:55 |
| ml2mst | and no spellchecker :-( | Nov 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: altough yeah that SuborbitalPigeon gets scared realy easilly | Nov 21 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: he nearly fell off his chair, when he saw you type just now :D | Nov 21 02:55 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | I'm sitting on the floor though | Nov 21 02:55 |
| ml2mst | I don't know SuborbitalPigeon, is he a troll? | Nov 21 02:57 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | if that's your attitude, yes | Nov 21 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: no he is bruce89 | Nov 21 02:57 |
| ml2mst | Oh, OK ;-) | Nov 21 02:58 |
| SuborbitalPigeon | nice to see the welcoming attitude though | Nov 21 02:58 |
| *SuborbitalPigeon is now known as bruce89 | Nov 21 02:58 | |
| ml2mst | burce89: don't bother pall. I've been in COLA for ages and thus a bit protective ;-) | Nov 21 02:59 |
| bruce89 | och, no worries | Nov 21 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | What is this COLA anyway, an identica group or something? | Nov 21 03:00 |
| ml2mst | COLA is a usenet group comp.os.linux.advocacy many participants of Techrighst have been in there for years | Nov 21 03:01 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Nov 21 03:01 |
| sebsebseb | and if I remember correctly usenet is before world wide web, but also needs paying for whatever it is? | Nov 21 03:02 |
| ml2mst | shestowtiz posted GNU/Linux and Free Software "good news" for ages and had been visiously attacked by the groups trolls | Nov 21 03:02 |
| ml2mst | I know schestwotiz, _Goblin and a couple of other Techrights participants from there. | Nov 21 03:03 |
| sebsebseb | right, but usenet itself needs paying for? | Nov 21 03:03 |
| oiaohm | COLA started off as a good idea. | Nov 21 03:03 |
| oiaohm | Since then it been lot of people who have no interesting in Linux use it as a soapbox | Nov 21 03:04 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and usenet is where Linus did his kernel annoucement | Nov 21 03:04 |
| oiaohm | Some of the people in there highly insulting to me as well. Just due to my odd english. | Nov 21 03:05 |
| ml2mst | oiaohm: indeed a soapbox to attack those who actually dare to write positive about Linux | Nov 21 03:05 |
| oiaohm | Not correct. | Nov 21 03:05 |
| oiaohm | Linus kernel announcement was published on a BBS server first. | Nov 21 03:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Why Samsung’s Bada Could Win Big http://ur1.ca/2e5is | Nov 21 03:05 | |
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| oiaohm | Got transfered to usernet. | Nov 21 03:06 |
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| ml2mst | oiaohm: A little missunderstanding or are you actually claiming that I'm making this stuff up about COLA | Nov 21 03:08 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: comment before yours. | Nov 21 03:09 |
| oiaohm | Timing bad. | Nov 21 03:09 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: what? | Nov 21 03:09 |
| ml2mst | All GNU/Linux and Free Software advocates in COLA are visiously attacked by the groups trolls time and again. | Nov 21 03:09 |
| oiaohm | yeah and usenet is where Linus did his kernel annoucement << Linus did a BBS announcement then it end up in usenet sebsebseb | Nov 21 03:10 |
| oiaohm | One of the finer points of history but still I am picky. | Nov 21 03:11 |
| oiaohm | ml2mst: you would be noticing the trolls are running out of good arguements. | Nov 21 03:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Tough to say really. | Nov 21 03:12 | |
| ml2mst | aiohm: indeed, the majority have left. I guess the Vole quit financially supporting them | Nov 21 03:12 |
| oiaohm | Its also like the fact that Linus did not name linux. Linux name comes from the fact the first storage server was a dos based bbs and Linus name for it would not fit. | Nov 21 03:13 |
| ml2mst | They started a "Boycott COLA" yet never returned. | Nov 21 03:14 |
| ml2mst | That's true Linus originally called his kernel "Freax" | Nov 21 03:14 |
| oiaohm | Nop. | Nov 21 03:14 |
| oiaohm | The true first name is hidding in TUX full name. | Nov 21 03:15 |
| ml2mst | Read his autobiography "Just For Fun", yet you obviously think you know better then Linus Torvalds himself :-) | Nov 21 03:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Did an Apple Engineer Invent FB Messages In 2003? http://ur1.ca/2e5kb | Nov 21 03:17 | |
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| oiaohm | I had read the admin of where Linux was first uploaded. | Nov 21 03:17 |
| oiaohm | Maybe Freax was the working name. ml2mst | Nov 21 03:18 |
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| ml2mst | oiaohm: indeed it was, it's all very well documented in Linus Torvalds's autobiography "Just For Fun". | Nov 21 03:20 |
| oiaohm | The requested directory was Linus (T)orvalds (U)ni(X) . ml2mst BBS maintainer gave linux and it stuck. And TUX name comes out of the missing bit. | Nov 21 03:21 |
| oiaohm | Yes if server had long filename support the word would have be way different. | Nov 21 03:21 |
| ml2mst | oiaohm: thanks that's intresting never knew what TUX bas based on. Wasn't the BBS maintainer Ari Lemke? | Nov 21 03:22 |
| oiaohm | Ok so Freax is another thing it could ended up named. ml2mst | Nov 21 03:22 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Nov 21 03:23 |
| ml2mst | oiaohm: Yes, acording to "Just for fun" "Freax" was the working name. | Nov 21 03:23 |
| oiaohm | I was refering to production name how it came into existance. | Nov 21 03:24 |
| oiaohm | Everything about Linux early history gets warped and confusing. | Nov 21 03:24 |
| oiaohm | But Linux without confusion would not be Linux. | Nov 21 03:26 |
| ml2mst | Oh well, I'm off to bed now. Didn't realize it was that late. Good night all ;-) | Nov 21 03:28 |
| sebsebseb | ml2mst: night | Nov 21 03:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] back from #queens. back to my #Linux lair #brooklyn | Nov 21 03:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Draconian insanity http://ur1.ca/2e5n4 | Nov 21 03:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Nouveau Now Supports Overclocking Your GPU: While the Nouveau driver may not yet have a stable Gallium3D or DDX ... http://bit.ly/cTY9mS | Nov 21 03:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Skating, birthday shopping, recital shuttling, parental guidance... full day after getting home at 1:30am last night. Time to hit the hay. | Nov 21 03:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] gf rocking #pinguyOS. says it's wicked | Nov 21 04:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: protest fraudulent foresclosure http://ur1.ca/2e5w2 | Nov 21 04:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @snarf: "Young Boy Strip Searched By TSA" http://is.gd/hvPBh #videos #kcc #privacy #tsa | Nov 21 04:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo yes, as do i ... :) Still kinda miffed that I missed 4.6 freeze for PlasmaSummary or we'd have a nice usecase documented right there | Nov 21 04:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Politics Story | Estonian Economist Suggests Abandoning Cash http://ur1.ca/2e63g | Nov 21 05:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] long I haven't used #choqok. #salix made me do it | Nov 21 05:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Tocophobia on the rise in Britian http://ur1.ca/2e65c | Nov 21 05:34 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight. | Nov 21 05:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | - Bill Gates | Nov 21 05:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | wow | Nov 21 05:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | if only I knew Bill well enough to tell him this quote. | Nov 21 05:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @johnsu01 Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of !fsf !lp. Fortunately we already have a fix for th ... | Nov 21 06:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @snarf "Young Boy Strip Searched By TSA" http://is.gd/hvPBh !videos !kcc !privacy #tsa << THAT is pornography | Nov 21 06:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ZDNet hypocrisy for the #mobbyists http://is.gd/hw2g3 "Mr. Microsofty, is the worst offender of heavy-handed, arbitrary censorship." | Nov 21 06:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It is both funny and sad that Blankenhorn became a vehicle for #mobbyists to legitimise their agenda by provoking. He is being exploited. | Nov 21 06:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] By any means necessary http://ur1.ca/2e6hi | Nov 21 06:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] let me try #pinguyOS live usb on this netbook | Nov 21 06:34 | |
| dwasifar | hey folks. Schestowitz here? | Nov 21 06:34 |
| schestowitz | Hi | Nov 21 06:34 |
| dwasifar | Schestowitz: hey there, how are you | Nov 21 06:35 |
| schestowitz | OK, and you? | Nov 21 06:35 |
| oiaohm | Ok I have never seen dwasifar before | Nov 21 06:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PCLinuxOS to Get a 64-bit Version http://is.gd/hw3Gr it's an excellent distro for XP converts | Nov 21 06:36 | |
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| oiaohm | Hi dwasifar | Nov 21 06:36 |
| dwasifar | Schestowitz: good, thanks. :) First: thanks for picking up links to my blog. Periodically I see linkbacks to here | Nov 21 06:36 |
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| dwasifar | Today though I saw myself described in the "OpenSUSE left behind" piece as "hostile to GNU/Linux" and I came here to cordially ask how I gave you that impression. :) | Nov 21 06:37 |
| dwasifar | I run nothing BUT Linux :) | Nov 21 06:38 |
| dwasifar | hi oiaohm | Nov 21 06:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: Jolicloud's Jolibook Netbook Hitting Stores http://is.gd/hw1X8 !gnu !linux | Nov 21 06:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jolicloud's Jolibook Netbook Hitting Stores | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 60.08 KB | Nov 21 06:39 |
| schestowitz | dwasifar: I'm used to seeing Linux rants there sometimes | Nov 21 06:41 |
| schestowitz | I read load of it and you're a Linux critic, which is giving the impression you still rethink the platform, unless I have you mixed up with something else | Nov 21 06:42 |
| dwasifar | schestowitz: wow, I didn't think I was coming across that negative. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| oiaohm | My desktop has been Linux for over 10 years. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| schestowitz | It looks that way | Nov 21 06:42 |
| schestowitz | SOmetimes. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| oiaohm | I can still pick faults in it. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| dwasifar | I should make that clearer then. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Nov 21 06:42 |
| oiaohm | But I am worse when I pick faults in windows. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| oiaohm | There are more in windows. | Nov 21 06:42 |
| dwasifar | oiaohm: +1 on that | Nov 21 06:42 |
| schestowitz | I can't remember another blogger which does i | Nov 21 06:43 |
| schestowitz | Can't remember his nick... | Nov 21 06:43 |
| oiaohm | Next 12 months we will see big changes. | Nov 21 06:43 |
| oiaohm | systemd making the start up system proper and secure. | Nov 21 06:43 |
| oiaohm | The death of the BKL | Nov 21 06:43 |
| oiaohm | And I hope the merge of the real-time tree into mainline. | Nov 21 06:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Power outage taken down my #Linode server, and #Coffs #StatusNet with it. | Nov 21 06:44 | |
| dwasifar | I tend to nitpick when things don't work as they should, but I've been a staunch Linux advocate for years. I would rather cut off a finger than go back to Windows. | Nov 21 06:45 |
| oiaohm | I hope wayland takes off. | Nov 21 06:46 |
| dwasifar | I'm worried right now because Ubuntu is about to fork the Gnome desktop by moving to Unity and, what is it, Weyland? | Nov 21 06:46 |
| schestowitz | It's not dwasifar's fault that there are many imposters out there | Nov 21 06:46 |
| schestowitz | "I like Linux, but..." | Nov 21 06:46 |
| oiaohm | http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ | Nov 21 06:46 |
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| oiaohm | wayland is a project started by one of the x.org back end designers. | Nov 21 06:47 |
| schestowitz | Many become suspects of it and critics become "troll" suspects | Nov 21 06:47 |
| schestowitz | Like Dana Blankenhorn | Nov 21 06:47 |
| oiaohm | http://wayland.freedesktop.org/architecture.html Basically an attempt to clean up the video stack dwasifar | Nov 21 06:48 |
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| oiaohm | We had directfb and other before it dwasifar | Nov 21 06:48 |
| dwasifar | I see what they're doing. They're shifting their sights to the mobile world. This is probably good strategy for Ubuntu and Canonical, but it may mean the traditional desktop environment is not going to be their focus. | Nov 21 06:48 |
| dwasifar | I'm not worried about wayland so much as I am about Unity and Gnome Shell | Nov 21 06:48 |
| oiaohm | wayland is something that should have happened to Linux years ago. | Nov 21 06:48 |
| oiaohm | directfb attempted | Nov 21 06:49 |
| oiaohm | And failed because video card makers would not support them. | Nov 21 06:49 |
| dwasifar | The only concern I have about wayland is backward compatibility. | Nov 21 06:49 |
| oiaohm | Ie you want drivers we will only provide drivers for X11 | Nov 21 06:49 |
| oiaohm | wayland can run inside X11 with dri2 | Nov 21 06:49 |
| oiaohm | And X11 can run inside wayland. | Nov 21 06:49 |
| dwasifar | But Unity and Gnome Shell both seem more like mobile device interfaces than traditional DEs | Nov 21 06:50 |
| dwasifar | X can run inside wayland? Is it efficient? | Nov 21 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Due to the way dri2 is with direct rendering yes its efficient | Nov 21 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Over head can be almost zero | Nov 21 06:50 |
| dwasifar | Cool. You learn something new every day :) | Nov 21 06:50 |
| oiaohm | wayland is basically taking full advantage of dri2 design. | Nov 21 06:51 |
| oiaohm | Where the X11 protocal cannot. | Nov 21 06:51 |
| dwasifar | So anyway I've been fooling around with KDE in case Natty turns out to be not something I want to use. | Nov 21 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Also wayland requires KMS if it is the host. KMS brings Linux the equal to blue screen of death for kernel panics. | Nov 21 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Something Nvidia really does not want either. | Nov 21 06:52 |
| oiaohm | Ie there kernel crashes being publically displayed. | Nov 21 06:52 |
| dwasifar | Although I see the Mint devs promising to figure out a way to continue to offer a traditional Gnome desktop | Nov 21 06:52 |
| oiaohm | meego is lining up to target Ubuntu market spaces. | Nov 21 06:53 |
| oiaohm | And that is what I believe the Unity move is about. | Nov 21 06:53 |
| oiaohm | List of supporters behind Meego is getting longer than the list of supporters behind Ubuntu. | Nov 21 06:53 |
| dwasifar | IOW Shuttleworth is playing "me-too" with meego | Nov 21 06:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity !Linux 2010_02 Is Powered by Linux kernel 2.6.35.7 http://is.gd/hw5Tc "Unity Linux 2010_02 is dubbed Unite17." | Nov 21 06:54 | |
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| oiaohm | meego core interfaces are QT dwasifar | Nov 21 06:55 |
| oiaohm | Yes meego is techically anti Gnome. | Nov 21 06:55 |
| dwasifar | I wonder how Canonical suddenly veering into that market for the consumer version of the product will affect their success in the server space | Nov 21 06:56 |
| dwasifar | Server admins are used to installing something like CentOS and getting X11 and Gnome as part of the deal. Nobody runs the server at runlevel 5, but it's part of the standard set of stuff that comes with it and doesn't make anyone scratch their head. | Nov 21 06:57 |
| oiaohm | All server space wins are shorted lived. | Nov 21 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Really for servers I want to see the end of X11 | Nov 21 06:58 |
| dwasifar | If Ubuntu becomes known as a mobile Linux, a meego or android competitor, it'll have a tougher row to hoe to be taken seriously in the server market | Nov 21 06:58 |
| oiaohm | meego targets are broad. | Nov 21 06:58 |
| oiaohm | meego targets almost everywhere. | Nov 21 06:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How We Choose Political Candidates and Software. http://is.gd/hw6yY " "I actually re-themed their Linux boxes on the fly." | Nov 21 06:59 | |
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| oiaohm | Also you will see KDE and meego working with each other more over the next 12. | Nov 21 07:00 |
| dwasifar | Anyway, before I get too far afield: schestowitz: if I give you the impression again that I'm anti Linux, whack me upside the head in my comments section or something :) | Nov 21 07:00 |
| dwasifar | KDE and meego | Nov 21 07:01 |
| dwasifar | hmm | Nov 21 07:01 |
| dwasifar | sounds like the current banner-carriers for the traditional desktop paradigm are moving on | Nov 21 07:01 |
| dwasifar | If I want the traditional desktop GUI by 2013 I might be stuck with OpenBox | Nov 21 07:02 |
| dwasifar | or OS X | Nov 21 07:02 |
| schestowitz | dwasifar: :-) ok | Nov 21 07:02 |
| schestowitz | I said "hostile" | Nov 21 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a better word is "critic" | Nov 21 07:03 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm is the same | Nov 21 07:03 |
| schestowitz | He admits that | Nov 21 07:03 |
| dwasifar | "Critic" I can live with :) | Nov 21 07:03 |
| schestowitz | dwasifar: MarkS is not just playing MeToo | Nov 21 07:03 |
| schestowitz | He competes with MeeGo | Nov 21 07:03 |
| dwasifar | holy shit it's one in the morning | Nov 21 07:03 |
| schestowitz | Linaro and all | Nov 21 07:04 |
| oiaohm | dwasifar: you have to remember Nokia took over QT. QT is the backend to KDE. | Nov 21 07:04 |
| schestowitz | And he wants to make money from mobile devices. #SteveofLinux | Nov 21 07:04 |
| oiaohm | dwasifar: so KDE developers and Nokia developers are talking to each other a lot. | Nov 21 07:04 |
| dwasifar | yeah, you're not the first to compare Mark and Steve recently | Nov 21 07:04 |
| dwasifar | You guys are a fountain of interesting information | Nov 21 07:04 |
| dwasifar | I hate to sign off | Nov 21 07:04 |
| schestowitz | ok, sorry for that characterisaion | Nov 21 07:05 |
| schestowitz | I'll be careful next time and use the words better | Nov 21 07:05 |
| dwasifar | but if I don't get to sleep soon I will be oversleeping when the weekend's over | Nov 21 07:05 |
| schestowitz | point was, even someone who complains a lot will try opensuse | Nov 21 07:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some funky fresh news on #Mandriva Linux http://is.gd/hw7us yes, mandriva is alive | Nov 21 07:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Some funky fresh news on Mandriva Linux | proyvinds ra(n)thole .::. Size~: 26.27 KB | Nov 21 07:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am more likely to try crux than opensuse. | Nov 21 07:06 |
| oiaohm | I guess you have never heard of crux as a distribution. | Nov 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz | It's like Simon Cowell, dwasifar | Nov 21 07:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I wrote about it many times | Nov 21 07:06 |
| dwasifar | schestowitz: no harm done, in fact, I think it was a valuable reality check for me. :) Blogging one's criticism can turn out to be like a shadow boxing flame war. You don't know how you're coming across, but unlike a flame war there's not always someone on the other end to tell you. | Nov 21 07:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=schestowitz+crux | Nov 21 07:07 |
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| oiaohm | opensuse looks like a path to a heavy system than my debians. | Nov 21 07:07 |
| oiaohm | So if I am after improvements I would not look in that direction. | Nov 21 07:08 |
| dwasifar | I'd use debian in a heartbeat if the subpixel font rendering didn't suck so bad. It gives me a headache. At least there are freetype patches for openSUSE. I haven't found them yet for Debian. Though they're probably out there. | Nov 21 07:08 |
| oiaohm | Use newer freetype from testing. dwasifar | Nov 21 07:09 |
| dwasifar | how long has that been available? | Nov 21 07:09 |
| oiaohm | Ever since the patent on hinting disappeared. | Nov 21 07:10 |
| oiaohm | Over a year basically. | Nov 21 07:10 |
| dwasifar | and it's been just about that long since I tried debian last for desktop use | Nov 21 07:10 |
| oiaohm | openSUSE was backporting freetype development patches. | Nov 21 07:11 |
| oiaohm | Yes debian normal tail of hunt. | Nov 21 07:11 |
| oiaohm | Dependable tail of hunt | Nov 21 07:11 |
| dwasifar | Yeah, I installed openSUSE last week and got the patches and it looked fantastic | Nov 21 07:11 |
| dwasifar | then two boots later it started hanging with some NFS related error | Nov 21 07:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Freedom and the !GNU !GPL http://is.gd/hw8ex "due to corporate astroturfing campaigns [...] software freedom [...] misunderstood." | Nov 21 07:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Documenting and challenging community misogyny http://is.gd/hw8ir where I hang out in FOSS, women are treated better than men | Nov 21 07:12 | |
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| dwasifar | didn't have time to noodle out what was wrong, switched drives and went back to my regular install until I have more time to play with it | Nov 21 07:12 |
| oiaohm | As as per normal the next Debian release is running late. dwasifar | Nov 21 07:13 |
| dwasifar | okay guys I have to snooze. Nice meeting you | Nov 21 07:13 |
| dwasifar | I plan to be back | Nov 21 07:13 |
| dwasifar | and thanks | Nov 21 07:14 |
| schestowitz | cya lkater | Nov 21 07:14 |
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| oiaohm | Ok what blog is his schestowitz | Nov 21 07:15 |
| schestowitz | his name .com IIRC | Nov 21 07:15 |
| oiaohm | I really have to drop in on one of the crux maintainers over here. He is only 200 kms down the road. | Nov 21 07:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @schestowitz: Some funky fresh news on #Mandriva Linux http://is.gd/hw7us yes, mandriva is alive | Nov 21 07:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] David Sugar on Software Freedom, GNU GPL, and corporate astroturfing and disinformation campaigns http://is.gd/hw8ex (via @schestowitz) | Nov 21 07:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] The practice of thalaikoothal http://ur1.ca/2e6tb | Nov 21 07:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/11/2010: systemd and Mandriva Status Updates http://is.gd/hwbdC | Nov 21 07:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Lookout, Knockhead! http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/5194413366/ !China !OnlyInChina #Fun #Ingless #Chinlish | Nov 21 07:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @mindspillage My contract ends the 30th--info on job openings for a tech/©/etc. policy geek (or otherwise up my alley) much apprec ... | Nov 21 08:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Back from an awesome night in Modesto, thanks to everyone who came out to support Severed Fifth! You rock! \m/ #severedfifth | Nov 21 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz The biggest hurdle in FOSS/GNU/Linux adaptation http://is.gd/hunTq surprising answer. !gnu !linux | Nov 21 08:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome! Dose OF Metal feature the Severed Fifth Recording Campaign - http://is.gd/hwgSS #severedfifth | Nov 21 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Erasing A “Friend”: An Examination of “Friends” On the Internet | Techi.com http://www.techi.com/2010/11/how-to-define-a-friend/ | Nov 21 09:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Bikera, a simple public transportation concept - http://bit.ly/9E1KLx germ of an idea from the man behind Fonera #bikes #sharing | Nov 21 09:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] iPad 'newspaper' created by Steve Jobs and Rupert Murdoch - http://bit.ly/dle5kN a marriage made in, er, well you can guess #apple #murdoch | Nov 21 09:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] iPad 'newspaper' created by Steve Jobs and Rupert Murdoch | Technology | guardian.co.uk http://ur1.ca/2e7at | Nov 21 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Girl Talk and Intellectual Property - http://bit.ly/9NKo8B some libertarians begin to get it about intellectual monopolies | Nov 21 09:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @glynmoody Jobs is a fan of Murdoch? Figures... | Nov 21 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Ed Vaizey on net neutrality http://ur1.ca/2e7bj | Nov 21 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] pic of the week: The Old Royal Naval College - http://bit.ly/bNKayc ooh, positively contrapuntal #london #architecture #pix | Nov 21 09:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] *yawn* I'd be so lost without coffee! | Nov 21 09:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Abundance and the Generative Logic of the Commons - http://bit.ly/cX7nrj fab speech by Roberto Verzola #commons #abundance | Nov 21 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Girl Talk and Intellectual Property - http://bit.ly/9NKo8B some libertarians begin to get it about intellectual monopolies | Nov 21 09:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Rewired my telephone lines, new router in office, building new !debian !linux server. Old one was wireless, notice the speed difference. | Nov 21 09:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “corporations tamed humans, who now serve as their workhorses, watchdogs, etc”--Roberto Verzola http://bit.ly/cX7nrj via @glynmoody | Nov 21 10:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] “we must reestablish control over corporations. This involves reprogramming them to obey Asimov's three laws for automata”--R.Verzola | Nov 21 10:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Schestowitz has there been a response to this latest Dana/Florian effort, any truth? http://ur1.ca/2e7st | Nov 21 10:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Israeli troops receive only a 3 month suspended sentence for making a boy search for boobytraps. http://ur1.ca/2e7u2 #occupation !Palestine | Nov 21 10:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] MS: No Kinekt drivers! No wait... yes, do it.. that's why we didn't protect it in the first place, honest. !fs | Nov 21 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA and Israel plan to deal with their opponents in the Middle East "..as if Cheney had never left office" http://ur1.ca/2e7xp #diplomacy? | Nov 21 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ben's Prison Blog "The Turning Of The Screw" http://ur1.ca/2e7y4 #crime #rehabilitation #punishment | Nov 21 11:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just set up Reiser4 on my laptop. It's killer. | Nov 21 11:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] At my grandma's place having coffee. | Nov 21 11:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Private Agreements Harm Communities http://ur1.ca/2e8iq !fs #rand | Nov 21 11:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Lack of support for Cambodia to emulate Vietnamese model for free software adoption. http://ur1.ca/2e8lh !fs !linux #seasia | Nov 21 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Why having web activation services if they are disabled between 1-5am? It's not human-handled because otherwise it wouldn't work on Sunday… | Nov 21 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Lovely: Phoenix BIOS insists on telling you to use +/- to change boot order… instead it should use F6/F7… | Nov 21 12:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Vince Cable is says that election promises they make do not count if they join a coalition. We can safely ignore anything they promise then. | Nov 21 12:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] I'm coming to the conclusion that there are very few markets in which we *aren't* the product. | Nov 21 12:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "land of the free" my ass (sic!) ur1.ca/2e96b ur1.ca/2e97c | Nov 21 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] holy shit! 'The TSA supervisor told him, “By buying your ticket you gave up a lot of rights.”' | Nov 21 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I can haz returned with diluting juice, started feeling a cold last night and ran outa juice, twas the key goal for today to get some | Nov 21 12:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] *cough* Deepcut is a work of fiction, it's not even a real place *cough* http://bbc.in/9QIAws They do need to recruit body bags after all | Nov 21 12:54 | |
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| _Goblin | Hi all | Nov 21 12:57 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: will be up for a recording tonight if you are wanting to do one. | Nov 21 12:58 |
| ThistleWeb | o/ | Nov 21 12:58 |
| _Goblin | :) | Nov 21 12:59 |
| _Goblin | hi!.... | Nov 21 12:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "land of the free" my ass (sic!) ur1.ca/2e96b ur1.ca/2e97c #wontfly | Nov 21 12:59 | |
| _Goblin | Sort of off and on the PC until about 5pm...then Im free... | Nov 21 12:59 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd rather do an earlier recording than the "start at 9 or 10" times today if that's agreeable to all of us | Nov 21 13:00 |
| ThistleWeb | MOTD starts at 10 | Nov 21 13:00 |
| _Goblin | yeah thats fine with me.... | Nov 21 13:00 |
| _Goblin | Message of the day? ;) | Nov 21 13:01 |
| ThistleWeb | lol | Nov 21 13:01 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd rather be finished before 10 | Nov 21 13:01 |
| _Goblin | we could aim for a 5:30 - 6pm start? | Nov 21 13:01 |
| ThistleWeb | cool | Nov 21 13:01 |
| ThistleWeb | I prepared a few bullet points of ideas | Nov 21 13:01 |
| _Goblin | hopefully if Roy is available... | Nov 21 13:01 |
| _Goblin | cool... | Nov 21 13:02 |
| _Goblin | Ive got some stories... | Nov 21 13:02 |
| ThistleWeb | I felt we rushed the FUD thing, we could do a part 2, just to round off the subject | Nov 21 13:02 |
| ThistleWeb | without giving spoilers in here, move next door | Nov 21 13:03 |
| _Goblin | yep the chan is up | Nov 21 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Listening to TechBytes - Episode 10: Gordon Sinclair talks /w Tim and Roy about MS FUD. Very educational and entertaining http://is.gd/hwTL5 | Nov 21 13:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Damn. I'm sick of !newsbeuter's "Error while loading feeds from [db]: [db] disk image is malformed" when the system crashes. | Nov 21 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-11-21: Government suppliers may be ordered to open up data I'll believe it when I see it. The wh... http://bit.ly/a9wrjH | Nov 21 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @lxoliva “corporations tamed humans, who now serve as their workhorses, watchdogs, etc”--Roberto Verzola http://bit.ly/cX7nrj via @gl ... | Nov 21 13:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “America By Heart” (original title: “America Written On The Back Of My Hand”) - http://tcrn.ch/9VFFs9 nicely done #copyright | Nov 21 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] ♻ @lxoliva David Sugar on Software Freedom, GNU GPL, and corporate astroturfing and disinformation campaigns http://is.gd/hw8ex | Nov 21 13:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NSFW: Sarah Palin Hows That Promotey, Embargoey Stuff Workin Out for Ya? .::. Size~: 65.09 KB | Nov 21 13:36 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bailout alternatives in Ireland http://ur1.ca/2e9i6 | Nov 21 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Image rights: England v Germany and Philip Woolas's mug - http://bit.ly/bXMqKR interesting stuff #rights #copyright | Nov 21 13:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Francis Davey: Image rights: England v Germany and Philip Woolas's mug .::. Size~: 49.27 KB | Nov 21 13:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @graziano @jacobwb not this again. see, this is *not* about silencing criticis; it's *all* about having a meaningful and civil discussion | Nov 21 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @graziano @jacobwb criticism comes in two flavous: the "being a prick" kind, and the "let's try to solve the issue" kind. I prefer latter ;) | Nov 21 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Breathing with liquids. http://ur1.ca/2e9nc | Nov 21 13:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Into the abyss: The diving suit that turns men into fish - Science, News - The Independent .::. Size~: 167.19 KB | Nov 21 13:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital Society vs. Digital Economy Act - http://bit.ly/auf4vU you can't have both #deact #uk #government | Nov 21 14:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Rehearsals... | Nov 21 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Use MintMenu In Avant Window Navigator [AWN Applet] http://bit.ly/96e4lr | Nov 21 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching One Piece 476 some good action !anime | Nov 21 14:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Use MintMenu In Avant Window Navigator [AWN Applet] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.82 KB | Nov 21 14:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @dyfet,blog post at http://is.gd/hw8ex has error. When !GPL terminates due to violation, violator cannot modify either. You're right re: use | Nov 21 14:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Wicoh'an: Software Freedom and the GNU GPL .::. Size~: 53.41 KB | Nov 21 14:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Give money http://ur1.ca/2e9vk | Nov 21 14:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♻ @bkuhn: on netbook, AFAIK, #MeeGo is !FaiF. Phone platform is more proprietary than !Android;can't charge battery w/out proprietary! | Nov 21 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] mining is getting mad dangerous even with new technology | Nov 21 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No Art Please, You're Not British - http://bit.ly/cSyD9T more UK Borders Agency barminess #uk #art #money | Nov 21 14:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #parma vs #lazio #serieA | Nov 21 14:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @glynmoody: No Art Please, You're Not British - http://bit.ly/cSyD9T more UK Borders Agency barminess #uk #art #money | Nov 21 14:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #lazio equalizes on the cusp of half time #serieA | Nov 21 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @eightyeight: if the opposite of "pro" is "con", is the opposite of "progress", "congress"? | Nov 21 15:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] To Whom It May Concern: if you expect me to write a check for tens of thousands of dollars, you'd better tell me w/ *much* advance notice. | Nov 21 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Man Fined For Publishing Links To Legal Sports Broadcast | TorrentFreak http://ur1.ca/2ea51 Torrentfreak (Torrentfreak) | Nov 21 15:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Suspend an ssh session. | commandlinefu.com http://ur1.ca/2ea5a | Nov 21 15:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Suspend an ssh session. | commandlinefu.com .::. Size~: 116.61 KB | Nov 21 15:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @bkuhn: To Whom It May Concern:if you expect me to write a check for 10s of thousands dollars you'd better tell me w/ much advance notice | Nov 21 15:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn indeed I think that observation is true of most #FLOSS licenses | Nov 21 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] This Video Will Blow Your Mind (Probably) | The Creators Project http://ur1.ca/2ea64 | Nov 21 15:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This Video Will Blow Your Mind (Probably) | The Creators Project .::. Size~: 23.41 KB | Nov 21 15:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, you're probably right. Even those w/out termination clauses would degrade into normal "no copyright permission" scenarios. | Nov 21 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @bkuhn I meant can modify for themselves (use), just not redist said mods, but I welcome clarification. I never had to deal with violators. | Nov 21 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @dyfet, they *don't* have permission to modify after violation,even privately. Whether !GPL enforcer'd try to stop them is another question. | Nov 21 15:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Window Applets 0.2.9 Finally Gets Emerald Support, Comes With 4 New Themes http://bit.ly/aT2K8f | Nov 21 15:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Digg - Whoa, Google, That’s A Pretty Big Security Hole http://ur1.ca/2ea6w | Nov 21 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @dyfet, e.g., I generally don't demand !GPL violators stop exercising any ©-controlled activities while they actively work toward compliance | Nov 21 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Help! Linux ate my RAM! http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | Nov 21 15:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Digg - Whoa, Google, That’s A Pretty Big Security Hole .::. Size~: 31.36 KB | Nov 21 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Help! Linux ate my RAM! .::. Size~: 4.03 KB | Nov 21 15:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @dyfet, only in extreme cases, when violator is clearly not serious about complying, do !GPL enforcers typical ask for injunctive relief. | Nov 21 15:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @bkuhn ahh...I better understand now :). I will have to do a slightly corrective edit then... | Nov 21 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this #GNOME_bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635440 #totem_bug | Nov 21 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @howardknopf EFF alert: Is www.eff.org down? Has it been cracked? | Nov 21 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @dyfet, if you are editing anyway, you may wanna raise point that community !GPL enforcers only use full weight of © in extreme cases. | Nov 21 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @bkuhn I looked into that issue recently; case law struck me as #disturbing ly unclear | Nov 21 15:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @opensourceway #opensource.com very hard to read on F14 desktop w/ default Firefox 3.6.12 settings; fonts too small & text colors too light | Nov 21 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Tocophobia on the rise in Britain http://ur1.ca/2e65c | Nov 21 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Just reported this #KDE_Bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257525 #gwenview_bug | Nov 21 15:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 257525 - Meta Information should be copyable .::. Size~: 24.29 KB | Nov 21 15:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @bkuhn there is also installing from the delivered media to your hard disk. you could of course let a friend do it for you.. | Nov 21 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] This made me chuckle: http://bit.ly/9FXFoB #wikipedia | Nov 21 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @rms: Tocophobia on the rise in Britain http://ur1.ca/2e65c | Nov 21 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] The Basement Coders Developer Podcast » Episode 23 – Interview with Shay Banon of Elastic Search http://ur1.ca/2eae9 | Nov 21 15:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] If nationalism is dead, so is local culture | Nov 21 15:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Another #monumental #fail from Windows Phone 7 with #drm #antiuser #feature s http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831 | Nov 21 15:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] drawn game #lazio 1 #parma 1 #serieA | Nov 21 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] @fontana #lol, you know it's only been for a few days. :) Those are coming http://ur1.ca/2eaff http://ur1.ca/2eafg http://ur1.ca/2eafh | Nov 21 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Having said that, closed-minded narrow nationalism is evil | Nov 21 16:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Had forgotten the name of the boat (a river barge) on the Thames I lived on in '94, near Kew Bridge - just found it: "Ambulant" | Nov 21 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] If countries didn't exist, and there is only one language, the world would be a very dull place to live | Nov 21 16:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @robmyers What are they planning to do about the professional singers? | Nov 21 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Lest we forget what we're missing: http://ur1.ca/2eagz #Brown | Nov 21 16:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Warning: incoming Brown ideas. Likely impact: zero | Matthew Parris - Times Online .::. Size~: 25.47 KB | Nov 21 16:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] In Unix, "everything can have a file descriptor" (LWN): http://bit.ly/cmYq3A | Nov 21 16:12 | |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: hi | Nov 21 16:14 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: hi | Nov 21 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Can we record? I just got back | Nov 21 16:14 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59008481 "#Ron_Paul Unleashes On #TSA: “Enough Is Enough” http://ur1.ca/2e78b #Michael_Chertoff #Special_Interest" | Nov 21 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: gnusay's status on Sunday, 21-Nov-10 09:19:14 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.96 KB | Nov 21 16:16 |
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| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: about 5.30 / 6 maybe if you can | Nov 21 16:17 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 21 16:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm catching up ATM | Nov 21 16:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #lille vs #monaco #ligue1 | Nov 21 16:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fontana, mind sending me a few references to the case law you reviewed? I'd love to read over the cases that you found #disturbing. | Nov 21 16:17 | |
| schestowitz | "#Ron_Paul ☛ speaks out against the #TSA ☛ - enough is enough - we're fed up #Michael_Chertoff ☛" https://identi.ca/notice/59008392 | Nov 21 16:20 |
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| schestowitz | Who's this user who replies to me with this ROn Paul stuff? | Nov 21 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We Don’t Need #Flash Anymore http://is.gd/hxpdf #adobeTrash | Nov 21 16:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora Wishlist Feature: Old Versions http://is.gd/hxpmY reason in http://is.gd/hxppN and context in http://is.gd/hxpuB | Nov 21 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Does anyone know what happened to those Ars Electronica datasets that were available online? And what their licence was? | Nov 21 16:26 | |
| schestowitz | [13:02] <ThistleWeb> I felt we rushed the FUD thing, we could do a part 2, just to round off the subject | Nov 21 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Nov 21 16:29 |
| schestowitz | We barely touched patent FUD | Nov 21 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @robmyers: There's a couple on ManyEyes, but.......... | Nov 21 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera yes, but also spin | Nov 21 16:29 | |
| schestowitz | It wasn't a good summary, just a discussion to start with cause we didn't outline the show | Nov 21 16:29 |
| schestowitz | We could do a part II and cover other areas | Nov 21 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] You have book covers to finish. They are nearly finished. Finish them. #finish | Nov 21 16:31 | |
| zoobab | hi | Nov 21 16:32 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I got a new theme song | Nov 21 16:33 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: hey, what's new? | Nov 21 16:33 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: the mobbyists choose Groklaw to pick on now | Nov 21 16:33 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you do an intro? | Nov 21 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Cause we have a techbytes soundbite | Nov 21 16:35 |
| schestowitz | And it can be made to precede the talking part | Nov 21 16:35 |
| zoobab | I saw De Icasa bashing Groklaw on Twitter | Nov 21 16:35 |
| schestowitz | Of course | Nov 21 16:35 |
| schestowitz | They work as a group | Nov 21 16:35 |
| schestowitz | mobbyists, with some anonymous doing the cursing | Nov 21 16:36 |
| schestowitz | > Here is a first TechBytes tune. If it's not what you preferred, please | Nov 21 16:37 |
| schestowitz | > let me know. | Nov 21 16:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 21 16:37 |
| schestowitz | > Everything is possible. | Nov 21 16:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ML2MST thanks, that's excellent, we'll use it | Nov 21 16:37 | |
| zoobab | reading the groklaw article about SGI patent lawsuit | Nov 21 16:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ML2MST maybe lower the volume to avoid audio distortion at peak levels (higher sound quality)? It's really good. | Nov 21 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #lille scores vs #monaco #frau with a bullet | Nov 21 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @russellmcormond Actors reading Copyright fiction from a script + a fact based alternative position http://BillC32.ca/5250 #cdnpoli @ ... | Nov 21 16:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] India dice No a la RAND y Europa Deben Prestar Atención http://is.gd/hxudL #swpats #patents #india #rand | Nov 21 16:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: India dice No a la RAND y Europa Deben Prestar Atención | Techrights .::. Size~: 102.2 KB | Nov 21 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting some translations at a high pace :-) | Nov 21 16:55 |
| schestowitz | >>> Anyway, here it goes David Kappos....Doesn't Respond | Nov 21 16:55 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Right, Im back.... | Nov 21 16:56 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Ready to record - No I didn't manage to get around to recording an intro.......its still on my to-do list | Nov 21 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @ellipsis: Canonical boosting #Linux kernel contributions. http://bit.ly/9cUnDj #ubuntu | Nov 21 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] OK, I may not have factored in how long it's going to take sk1 to open this document... | Nov 21 16:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical Boosting Linux Kernel Contribution | Ubuntu Forecast .::. Size~: 27.7 KB | Nov 21 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #uvtv #podcast while I wait for the second half to start | Nov 21 17:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Or indeed whether it will at all. #uhoh | Nov 21 17:02 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Im going to have a bite to eat then I'll be available at around 5:30 | Nov 21 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [ES] David Kappos (Jefe USPTO) Se Niega a Ser Parte del Fiasco Tratado ACTA, No Responde http://is.gd/hxw0W #swpats #es #acta #uspto | Nov 21 17:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Cooking tagliatelle with shrimps in curry and cream sauce. :) | Nov 21 17:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/c3iq/statuses/6131185604362241 | Nov 21 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Nov 21 17:07 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I'll go east something as well, I compete on a diet since last night (not that I gained weight, I'm actually slimmer now) | Nov 21 17:08 |
| _Goblin | I think Thistleweb is ready too...he's keen to record early I think | Nov 21 17:08 |
| schestowitz | [16:57] <_Goblin> schestowitz: Ready to record - No I didn't manage to get around to recording an intro.......its still on my to-do list | Nov 21 17:08 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: marti prepared an opening sound | Nov 21 17:08 |
| schestowitz | With synthetic voice calling the name of the show | Nov 21 17:09 |
| schestowitz | So wait with the new intro | Nov 21 17:09 |
| _Goblin | :) | Nov 21 17:09 |
| schestowitz | I asked marti for some adjustments | Nov 21 17:09 |
| ThistleWeb | will be ready in about 5mins | Nov 21 17:09 |
| schestowitz | I'm read in 5 too | Nov 21 17:09 |
| _Goblin | Ill be back at 530 (after dinner) | Nov 21 17:09 |
| _Goblin | maybe 20 mins | Nov 21 17:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to Ghost of Tom Joad while I'm cooking. This has always been a winter album to me, ever since I gave it to my dad for Xmas. | Nov 21 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Recording a new episode of techbytes shortly. Will have to do a part 2 on Microsoft's FUD at some stage !tb | Nov 21 17:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Math troll: π does not equal 4 (Axiomatic Doubt): http://bit.ly/9d7nZ3 | Nov 21 17:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] introducing my brother to Rathole Radio | Nov 21 17:34 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: all ready | Nov 21 17:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] another sweet #goal from #lille #ligue1 | Nov 21 17:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Some simple #Natty sound menu updates http://goo.gl/wfm4h | Nov 21 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Ubuntu Forecast: !Canonical Boosting Linux Kernel Contribution http://goo.gl/m5mKD | Nov 21 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8 Poll Results: Best Linux Twitter Client http://goo.gl/SQ48B | Nov 21 17:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @jonobacon: a view on the Renaissance project by LibreOffice: http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=271 #libreoffice #docufoundation | Nov 21 17:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Trying out #KDE desktop on !fedora 14 | Nov 21 17:57 | |
| Ziomatrix | I agree with your flash article thanks to efforts from the WebOS folks in creating Enyo which provides framework for programming apps by creating HTML/CSS themes that can interact with native functions just by adding JScript calls to device drivers. Then | Nov 21 18:00 |
| Ziomatrix | you can take those apps and run them through the open source Phonegap: http://bit.ly/9PSI3J Which then can port them to Android, Blackberry and even iPhone. It may make mobile platform issolating *erm Apple* and MS. a thing of the past for most mobile s | Nov 21 18:00 |
| Ziomatrix | oftware. | Nov 21 18:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Nokia's former MeeGo chief confirms new role as Senior VP of webOS at HP - http://ur1.ca/2eb5r | Nov 21 18:01 | |
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| Ziomatrix | Here is more on WebOS Enyo, neat stuff: http://bit.ly/9EfnHj | Nov 21 18:02 |
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| Ziomatrix | hopefully with the former head of Meego looking over WebOS development and Todd Bradely continuing to be the gatekeeper we can see more in what good an relatively open mobile platform can really do. | Nov 21 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Steve Jobs to launch iPad newspaper with Rupert Murdoch? - http://ur1.ca/2eb82 | Nov 21 18:07 | |
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| Ziomatrix | ahh the tech tyrant and media mogul together at last :-P | Nov 21 18:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #favre up against his former team maybe for the last time. he has overstayed his contract with the #nfl | Nov 21 18:19 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Nov 21 18:21 |
| cubezzz | got one of those wireless keyboards yesterday | Nov 21 18:21 |
| cubezzz | this thing is rather odd | Nov 21 18:21 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm I thought wireless mouses and keyboards suck | Nov 21 18:21 |
| sebsebseb | since they also need batteries? | Nov 21 18:22 |
| cubezzz | so does this one | Nov 21 18:22 |
| cubezzz | so far it works OK | Nov 21 18:22 |
| cubezzz | I didn't bother with the wireless mouse | Nov 21 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @bkuhn I believe enforcement is essential otherwise it may as well be a BSD license. And I should say something about that as you suggest | Nov 21 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Not surprised that the Scottish football referees are going on strike, they are abused a lot | Nov 21 18:22 | |
| cubezzz | I have a close window button which is new to me | Nov 21 18:23 |
| cubezzz | the idea I suppose is you don't have to take your hands off the keyboard as much | Nov 21 18:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @bkuhn anyway I may be out the rest of the afternoon, but I also want to write a short post on copyright assignment next week | Nov 21 18:24 | |
| cubezzz | it also has an extra row of function keys at the top | Nov 21 18:25 |
| cubezzz | I think there's an article online on how to use the extra buttons on Linux | Nov 21 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] feeding time. feeling like #stromboli | Nov 21 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If Twitter removed the 140 character limit from DM’s. Would we have an email killer? - http://bit.ly/b6kega interesting thought #dm #email | Nov 21 18:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[royhugo/@royhugo] May the force of typography be with you http://design-fetish.blogspot.com/2010/11/may-force-of-typography-be-with-you.html #awesome | Nov 21 18:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Finally risking the preupgrade to !fedora 14... here's to hoping it'll all be alright when it's finished! | Nov 21 18:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] British Civil Service takes to social networking like duck to water, new book proves - http://bit.ly/9CwKQd "Keep calm, and carry on." | Nov 21 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mmm...... I heart Merlot! :D | Nov 21 19:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] installing debian squeeze on my dad and my server... | Nov 21 19:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The crumbling of torture's legal facade. http://ur1.ca/2ebjn #law #figleaf | Nov 21 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @umairh infobesity. it's my word of the day. gorging on low-quality info, the equivalent of low-cost fatty calories. >>nice | Nov 21 19:06 | |
| Ziomatrix | a Gizmodo article actually has done a good job in summing up how ridiculous and ultimately redundant airport security has become: http://bit.ly/beuTzF | Nov 21 19:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Transport Scotland website redirects me to the mobile website for no reason | Nov 21 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Snow! | Nov 21 19:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Overall finding #KDE slightly less annoying than #GNOME on !fedora 14, but the issue is a close one | Nov 21 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Wow, I knew #emusic had become #FAIL but no idea how epicly | Nov 21 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Holy fuck.... I had forgotten how much *fun* Sunny Day on the Barca DVD was..... Oo | Nov 21 19:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] That reminds me of Hamburg when Kevin wasn't fast enough and the Takamine bounced once before he caught it. Bruce just LMAOed. Good times... | Nov 21 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Totally don't get spammers randomly fav-ing my dents.... LOL | Nov 21 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Jihad - http://bit.ly/dfhq0I it's already here #opensource | Nov 21 19:26 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: you here? | Nov 21 19:28 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: ThistleWeb ? | Nov 21 19:28 |
| Ziomatrix | It's just utilizing liberal politcies the British used to grant certain autonomy to carry out objectives within the chain of command. | Nov 21 19:29 |
| Ziomatrix | nothing open source about it, they're just trying to equate Linux to terrorism. | Nov 21 19:29 |
| Ziomatrix | at least in that article, I hope it doesn't catch on | Nov 21 19:30 |
| ThistleWeb | we're recording | Nov 21 19:31 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: right ok | Nov 21 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fabsh: They hope you'll visit their profiles and click on their links. Wonder what's the success ratio... specially here. | Nov 21 19:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @ruiseabra LOL.... Good luck with that..... Hahahaha..... | Nov 21 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] preupgrade reboot into upgrade mode towards !fedora 14. 1339 packages, 100 done already. | Nov 21 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @fontana: Yeah, terribly. And I just found out that most of the bands I liked and discovered through them, cancelled the contract. | Nov 21 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] “Nebulae in the Northern Cross”: http://bit.ly/aSNmYw #APOD | Nov 21 19:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Get gorgeous transparent blurred app windows in Kubuntu http://ur1.ca/2ebso !kubuntu | Nov 21 19:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Woohoo #elementary #genlist in !elmdentica really pays off. 100 statuses took about the same time to render on !freerunner as 50 did. | Nov 21 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Geek's Handbook - Chapter 2: How to be a good colleague http://goo.gl/rBVD4 | Nov 21 19:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] preupgrade still about half to go. | Nov 21 19:56 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes, we were just recording | Nov 21 19:59 |
| schestowitz | You had me distracted and lost track... you put a balloon on my taskbar | Nov 21 19:59 |
| schestowitz | [18:07] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Steve Jobs to launch iPad newspaper with Rupert Murdoch? | Technically Incorrect - CNET News .::. Size~: 81.38 KB | Nov 21 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 60 dents! | Nov 21 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @popey: NHS sending tracking data to Facebook, Google, others.. http://is.gd/hxVEN | Nov 21 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | Two masters of propaganda | Nov 21 20:01 |
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| schestowitz | Match made in Hell | Nov 21 20:01 |
| schestowitz | [20:01] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 60 dents! | Nov 21 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok uhmm if you want to dump Skype, something, I was just being told about | Nov 21 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Wow, identica doesn't get much activity these days, does it? | Nov 21 20:01 |
| schestowitz | 60 dents for top spot? | Nov 21 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: by one of the Mageia founders, who would chat on techbytes in the future ye | Nov 21 20:01 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: maybe asterisk | Nov 21 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | yes something to di wht sip and asterisk or whatever and some sort of website | Nov 21 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | a service that would do it host or whatever, as long as give credit in the audio cast, or whatever it was, I haven't gone on it yet | Nov 21 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | anyway he said this: Tell them to check out gradwell.net if they want an oursourced SIP solution and like I say you can ask if they'll sponsor it - e..g for a mention in all the pod casts etc. | Nov 21 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I am listening to the audio cast, with him talking about Mageia at the moment | Nov 21 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | maybe the three of you shoudl listen to it as well, so yep you schestowitz ,but also _Goblin and ThistleWeb | Nov 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: _Goblin I decided not to cut the ending | Nov 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Cause we never cut out any bit | Nov 21 20:04 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: thanks | Nov 21 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheLinuxLinkTechShowOgg-vorbisFeed Episode 373 | Nov 21 20:05 |
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| sebsebseb | http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheLinuxLinkTechShowOgg-vorbisFeed | Nov 21 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | We're noise clean now | Nov 21 20:05 |
| schestowitz | When I apply the filter | Nov 21 20:05 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb has a good mic | Nov 21 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I'm currently debating supporting open access; lots of library people seem to support it; opinions? | Nov 21 20:06 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: so yeah I would chat on techbytes first I suppouse :) and then we can ask this guy to chat on there as well :D | Nov 21 20:06 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you need more distance from the mic | Nov 21 20:06 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes | Nov 21 20:06 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah it is decent, specially considering it was a cheap 'un | Nov 21 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Compare noise lebel in ep0 and ep11 :-) | Nov 21 20:06 |
| schestowitz | So much difference | Nov 21 20:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I mean like have another episode with him, so I like I can talk about why I am doing Mageia UK and such, and he can talk about the actsual Mageia project, development and so on, you know | Nov 21 20:07 |
| ThistleWeb | it'd probs be better to have one show with both | Nov 21 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yes or maybe do that | Nov 21 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | except uhmm I hardly know anything about development and history, where as he does | Nov 21 20:08 |
| ThistleWeb | for me a guest interview is like maybe 30+mins talking about that subject | Nov 21 20:08 |
| ThistleWeb | witht he guest taking part in the general stuff and news too | Nov 21 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | I am thinking an interview for each, so can talk about different things, to do with it | Nov 21 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | So I can do one from a like a Linux user perspective ( I think the word is) and he can do one from a development and so on perspective, or whatever | Nov 21 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | yeah exactly got about 30 minutes to chat about stuff, for the guest interviews | Nov 21 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: hes Scottish by the way :D | Nov 21 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | we'll talk haggis taming ;P | Nov 21 20:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh Holy day? I always thought that was a reference to the hands, after the nails have been removed ;P | Nov 21 20:14 | |
| schestowitz | hehe | Nov 21 20:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: two hours the one I am listening to, and he is part of it all the way through | Nov 21 20:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: 2:08:29 to be exact | Nov 21 20:22 |
| sebsebseb | well he seems to be in it all the way through, I have nearly heard half of it now | Nov 21 20:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @openbytes: how did you get the identi.ca sidebar on your wordpress blog? I've been searching for quite a while | Nov 21 20:24 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok he isn't there untill the very end of the episode | Nov 21 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] https://github.com/iRail - We've made an organization github account to bundle all our projects. More coming up - #iRail | Nov 21 20:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] @schestowitz Just sended a second version of the Jingle, with volume lowered to -2.5 dB plus Fade-in and Fade-out effect, via email. | Nov 21 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "Maybe I've forgotten the name and the address of everyone I've ever known, it's nothing I regret..." | Nov 21 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @fabsh: Midwinter festivals do kinda predate xianity... | Nov 21 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @robmyers Yep. But Germanic tribes were religious too.... ;) | Nov 21 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody would you be willing to spend half an hour in our 3-men show via VoIP? http://is.gd/hy5fM /cc @thistleweb @openbytes | Nov 21 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @fabsh: Which religion though... ;-) | Nov 21 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst perfect. I'll pass it over to @openbytes who reworks the opening | Nov 21 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @seeds: ♺ @popey: NHS sending tracking data to Facebook, Google, others.. http://is.gd/hxVEN | Nov 21 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA gone wild [IMG] http://is.gd/hy69M | Nov 21 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] the 'finishing' part of preupgrade process is still as braindead as before, no progress bar, eta or whatever. Just a stupid bouncy slider. | Nov 21 20:51 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL what rubbish: https://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/25953/ | Nov 21 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | I'm being twitter-spammed by this chap: | Nov 21 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @robmyers What does that have to do with anything? I'm trying to prove they *are* religious. I never studied ancient Germanic tribal rites.. | Nov 21 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing LO show notes. Will be off for a while..... | Nov 21 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when you have a cold, you realise just how many handkerchiefs you blitz through :/ #pileup | Nov 21 20:52 | |
| schestowitz | "@searchasyoutype" | Nov 21 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "A flawed Patent system. Search-as-you-type is not the only victim! https://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/25953/ " https://twitter.com/#!/searchasyoutype/status/6436374295085056 | Nov 21 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | "First Search-as-you-type Was it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElubRNRIUg4 or http://videos.wittysparks.com/id/3618093251/" https://twitter.com/#!/searchasyoutype/status/6436670199046144 | Nov 21 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/searchasyoutype/status/6437416470581249 "Every great innovation usually starts with a question. Mine was "Why can't we seach as you type?" in 1989. See my blog!!" | Nov 21 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | "Everybody enjoys the recent 'real time' programs in its various forms but not many people know it was done 20 years ago by me!" https://twitter.com/#!/searchasyoutype/status/6438902265028608 | Nov 21 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. | Nov 21 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Like it takes though to consider search as you type | Nov 21 20:53 |
| schestowitz | It's implementation that counts | Nov 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Need results sent fast and lots of computer power | Nov 21 20:54 |
| schestowitz | What troll... | Nov 21 20:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @fabsh: Religion's the medium, sure. | Nov 21 20:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So far we've managed to post one !techbytes episode once in two days on average. Takes up time... at expense of !techrights blog posts. | Nov 21 21:01 | |
| cubezzz | ok, did another 16 min audio blog | Nov 21 21:05 |
| cubezzz | mostly talking about AROS | Nov 21 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Reading Form+Code to review it. | Nov 21 21:07 | |
| cubezzz | quality should be better this time around | Nov 21 21:08 |
| cubezzz | 320 kbps | Nov 21 21:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] 'Cause you gotta have FAIF-a-FAIF-a-FAIF, you gotta have FAIF... #imsorry #noreally | Nov 21 21:09 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: Love the Jingle.....should be a little bit longer though for an intro... | Nov 21 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @aseigo flag and block ftw, just needed to notice that "Remote profile options" popup on rollover to find it. i am "safe" from spam again | Nov 21 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @trashbird1240 Just add a RSS widget and do it with that. - Hope it helps... | Nov 21 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Just played with the Galaxy Tab @ BesyBuy and it's awesome! !android | Nov 21 21:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc2-git6 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 21 21:12 | |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: IMHO | Nov 21 21:12 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: but it comes before the troll song | Nov 21 21:15 |
| schestowitz | When you start talking | Nov 21 21:15 |
| schestowitz | imho | Nov 21 21:15 |
| cubezzz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/ | Nov 21 21:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz How about we use that (modified) to separate the sections, such as news, dicussion, interview etc? | Nov 21 21:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @ml2mst Great work! Loved the Jingle...I think it needs to be longer but its really pro! Thank you! | Nov 21 21:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lxoliva @osamak are you conflating descriptive and perscriptive ethics? http://is.gd/hy9ZW | Nov 21 21:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes _I thought about that | Nov 21 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes but it's editing work, I never touch the whole block of audio in the middle - uncensored, unedited (except noise reduction) | Nov 21 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I think it's good that #pclos are finally working on a 64bit version! http://is.gd/hw3Gr | Nov 21 21:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz but we could record each section separately, that way no editing and there can be one for each section to separate them. | Nov 21 21:26 | |
| schestowitz | "RT @lnxwalt140 Pilots to be exempted #TSA http://is.gd/hyatx > hmmm... people who crashed planed into buildings in 9/11 were trained pilots" | Nov 21 21:26 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: ah, I see... | Nov 21 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Hmm why didn't this show here? | Nov 21 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | ♺ @schestowitz Unity !Linux 2010_02 Is Powered by Linux kernel 2.6.35.7 http://is.gd/hw5Tc "Unity Linux 2010_02 is dubbed Unite17." | Nov 21 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: bug | Nov 21 21:26 |
| schestowitz | I think | Nov 21 21:26 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: how about one that says "news" and "releases" and "discussion" then finally "feedback" | Nov 21 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Nov 21 21:27 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: I think it would separate up the sections nicely... | Nov 21 21:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] i should do a youtube spoken thingy | Nov 21 21:27 | |
| ThistleWeb | sounds ok | Nov 21 21:28 |
| ThistleWeb | I thought releases were part of the news | Nov 21 21:28 |
| sebsebseb | shame about the audio cast I mentioned earlier, that the second half, is basicaly just a load of junk talk | Nov 21 21:29 |
| ThistleWeb | tllts? | Nov 21 21:29 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yep that | Nov 21 21:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes it increases amount of work. I don't want to spend more time post-processing+arranging than recording. | Nov 21 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @pmctechblog The two that didn't even light up were PCMCIA WLAN cards from EDUP. Both used Broadcom chips. Both worked with Fedora | Nov 21 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz Fair enough..although for a slightly delayed release, I'd be happy to take the job from you. | Nov 21 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @pmctechblog Those two didn't work with Mandriva or OpenSuse either so Fedora is clearly on to something with PCMCIA cards | Nov 21 21:29 | |
| ThistleWeb | tllts isn't a podcast | Nov 21 21:29 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, you might find my talk interesting | Nov 21 21:29 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: oh you got an audio cast? | Nov 21 21:30 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a live show, that they record and release later as a podcast to download | Nov 21 21:30 |
| cubezzz | yes, it's all at http://cubexyz.blogspot.com | Nov 21 21:30 |
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| sebsebseb | oh right, well anyway the second half of what I downloaded, is junk talk | Nov 21 21:30 |
| cubezzz | 4 episodes now | Nov 21 21:30 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a group of blokes talking | Nov 21 21:30 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: first half was the interview with the Mageia developer for that episode, that was good :) | Nov 21 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | there's also to preshow that they tag on the end, that can be like 45mins of getting levels, random chat etc | Nov 21 21:31 |
| ThistleWeb | we could tag the 30min pre show on too but it's not that interesting | Nov 21 21:31 |
| *schestowitz links to http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2010/11/linux-audio-blog-4.html | Nov 21 21:32 | |
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| sebsebseb | what you mean pre show? | Nov 21 21:32 |
| ThistleWeb | just getting the call sorted, make sure it;'s recording right, working out what stuff we wanna try and cover etc | Nov 21 21:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @sebsebseb Maybe. I think I have popped into that channel in the past actually | Nov 21 21:32 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: you mean for the end a pre show? | Nov 21 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | to talk abou the next one as part of it? | Nov 21 21:34 |
| ThistleWeb | no | Nov 21 21:34 |
| ThistleWeb | just the part before we start recording | Nov 21 21:34 |
| schestowitz | show is 2:03:17 (time) | Nov 21 21:36 |
| schestowitz | uploading now | Nov 21 21:36 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yeah a pre show or whatever at end, I think I understand now | Nov 21 21:36 |
| schestowitz | I go the workflow worked out so that it doesn't take much effort other than recording it :-D | Nov 21 21:37 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: since its nearly ended, but telling colin what will do | Nov 21 21:37 |
| ThistleWeb | tllts only did that to give the ogg version "extra value", then dann ended up doing it on both | Nov 21 21:37 |
| ThistleWeb | most of the time it is just inane chat, but some jokes do come out of it | Nov 21 21:38 |
| sebsebseb | ok well I haven't heard one of these before, untill this one | Nov 21 21:38 |
| schestowitz | mp3 ends up being so much bigger | Nov 21 21:38 |
| schestowitz | it wasn't happening before | Nov 21 21:38 |
| sebsebseb | anyway Steven J. Vaghen Nicholas before the colin episode, so i'll have to download and listen to that one as well :D | Nov 21 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Over 50 megs for mp3 today | Nov 21 21:38 |
| ThistleWeb | thats a long intro tune | Nov 21 21:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes we can always split the tasks, that's the great thing about it! | Nov 21 21:39 | |
| sebsebseb | ok t hats finnished | Nov 21 21:40 |
| schestowitz | The numbrs are staggering | Nov 21 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | the one I just listend to | Nov 21 21:40 |
| schestowitz | That's why I'm so eager to make more episodes | Nov 21 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Little work for a lot of reach | Nov 21 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: staggering as in getting less downloads? | Nov 21 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | or more? | Nov 21 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | oh more? | Nov 21 21:40 |
| schestowitz | More | Nov 21 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Crom laughs at your thanksgiving celebration. He laughs from his mountain. | Nov 21 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techbytes episodes were requested a lot last week. Non-cached ogg @ 11881 times, more of them cached, some on Goblin's site (not counted) | Nov 21 21:41 | |
| sebsebseb | and there will be even more, after a bit of advertising in the future I guess, I mean when I chat on it :D | Nov 21 21:41 |
| sebsebseb | and this colin | Nov 21 21:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dict.cc/english-german/staggering.html | Nov 21 21:41 |
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| schestowitz | For you it's Swedish, I think | Nov 21 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm? | Nov 21 21:42 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: no I just don't know certain words, because... | Nov 21 21:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] FDA grants pharma company monopoly on ancient gout drug Colchicine, price jumps from 9¢ to $4.85: http://bit.ly/bjethE [via IP list] | Nov 21 21:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] doing the creative bit | Nov 21 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] An Update On The OpenGL 3 Support In Mesa: While the Mesa software stack has made some steps towards supporting ... http://bit.ly/9Dl7br | Nov 21 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Watched a few more couple of episodes from the BBS Documentary this afternoon. Among Dutch Sysops there was no such thing as competition! | Nov 21 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] In-N-Out is taking forever! :-| | Nov 21 21:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Here in the Province of Limburg, we had a Provincial Echomail network called LimNet. Sysops where pretty loyal to eachother. | Nov 21 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Argos joins Android tablet rush –selling Dell Streak and Galaxy Tab http://is.gd/hyfbf Galaxy is taxed/extorted by Microsoft, Streak is not | Nov 21 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @webmink FDA grants pharma company monopoly on ancient gout drug Colchicine, price jumps from 9¢ to $4.85>>real innovation there | Nov 21 21:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @schestowitz ♺ Some funky fresh news on #Mandriva Linux http://is.gd/hw7us yes, mandriva is alive | Nov 21 21:57 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok that worked :) ,but I also typed that in myself and with the ♺ after the name, so when the ♺ is before the name, the bot doesn't seem to like it | Nov 21 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Poll Results: Best Linux Twitter Client http://bit.ly/aQR4yy | Nov 21 21:59 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: to be exact, I copied and pasted the ♺ or whatevever, since not sure how to get that on my keyboard | Nov 21 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Bill C-32 and the Environment" the new Oh! Canada blog post: http://ur1.ca/2ecir !BillC32 #environment #DRM #TPM #techr #cdnpoli | Nov 21 22:01 | |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I do the same | Nov 21 22:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Far from digital locks protecting copyright, they are the greatest threat to copyright and the interests of creators."~@russellmcormond | Nov 21 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn you sure MeeGo ships Linux-libre? | Nov 21 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @phoronix A Short Video Tour Of The Wayland Display Server: There's been a lot of talk lately about the Wayland... http://bit.ly/9E4pLZ | Nov 21 22:04 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: pino can do for us in the settings, but pino doesn't show loads of the messages :( | Nov 21 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and also your on another client anyway | Nov 21 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway I just got repiled to after doing the ♺ for your RT message | Nov 21 22:05 |
| sebsebseb | uh for your Unity message above | Nov 21 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Argos joins Android tablet rush –selling Dell Streak & Galaxy Tab is.gd/hyfbf Galaxy is taxed/extorted by M$, Streak is not | Nov 21 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope I wrote about it about a dozen times. We don't know for sure what the deal is about. | Nov 21 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Grub Customizer 2.0 Can Change The Default Grub2 Boot Entry, Menu Colors, Background Image And Lots More http://bit.ly/cKDKnR | Nov 21 22:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] The Continental covers for Jerry Cornelius books are posolutely better than the Anglosphere ones. | Nov 21 22:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana Reading #Ubuntu Font Family Licensing FAQ http://is.gd/hyist #Baffling | Nov 21 22:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn IIRC there's a German case that decided that copying to RAM to execute *is* controlled by ©. can anyone confirm? | Nov 21 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] We just released Linux Outlaws 177 - The Orgasmatron (Eyebrow Control Was My Idea) http://ur1.ca/2ecno | Nov 21 22:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] preupgrade to !fedora 14 didn't go well for me, it did upgrade, but has some kernel problems on boot. booting with f13 kernel, trying to fix | Nov 21 22:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6468779143864320 "Given Dell would be likely to pay up, one can assume that the existing deal covered Dell's Android devices." "It's not safe to declare the Streak free of patent deals with MS." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6468938841989121 | Nov 21 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] rebooting now to see if fix worked | Nov 21 22:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @charlesschulz LibreOffice package for Slackware available: http://is.gd/hyj6c Now we're talking. #libreoffice #slackware | Nov 21 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Are all gallops through 1900s doomed 2 resemble A Dance to the Music of Time? Searching amongst Mountstuart's friends 4 a Kenneth Widmerpool | Nov 21 22:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope we don't know if it's a #swpats deal though | Nov 21 22:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] It worked! Apparently kernel %posttrans didn't run, so... happy happy joy joy now... | Nov 21 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh I suppose they might be trying to lure you into following them, to share their junk with your many followers | Nov 21 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] ♺ @charlesschulz: @jonobacon: a view on the Renaissance project by LibreOffice: http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=271 #libreoffice | Nov 21 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK.... Another LO released and I'm off to bed. Gotta get up early tomorrow to tackle the guitar operation... Laterz... | Nov 21 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "MS [...] don't evaluate whether idea will move industry forward, they ask, 'how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?'" -Bill Gates | Nov 21 22:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] LibreOffice wants to innovate in design and has set up a design mailing list - http://is.gd/hyk9J - awesome! #libreoffice | Nov 21 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The beginning of the end of *fair* OS competition has turned 25 | Nov 21 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @silner Ok well some of your messages on identi.ca show in there as notices :) | Nov 21 22:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #tsa ever managed to deter TERROR~1 on planes (by stripping down for photos), I'd fear trains/buses. The TERROR~1 would just move *there* | Nov 21 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @silner Ok well some of your messages on #identica show in there as notices :) | Nov 21 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA: whacking a mole with lethal radiation... fighting a phenomenon (not a group) by taking away our dignity, rights, and freedom. | Nov 21 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] downloaded #audacity to record my rant #poetic | Nov 21 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast http://on.msnbc.com/bkwjYw > GO TSA! Surely it's a TERROR~1 suspect | Nov 21 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Listening to a genius: Paul McDermott (GNW) - Oops I Did it Again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGDplTJ_m0o | Nov 21 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many people with prosthetic breasts (who survived cancer) have hijacked a plane? Or many hijackings used a 3-year-old as weapon pouch? | Nov 21 22:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA is still waiting for what's known as "movie plot" threats to materialise. Funny how all the TERROR~1 used to just fit boring criteria. | Nov 21 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @webmink: FDA grants pharma company monopoly on ancient gout drug Colchicine, price jumps from 9¢ to $4.85: http://bit.ly/bjethE | Nov 21 22:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] oh, I did some recording last week http://www.jezra.net/blog/clawhammer_sudo_modprobe #shamelessselfpromotion | Nov 21 22:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] It can happen to the best of us: "Cheryl Cole Farts Aloud X Factor Finals 13.11.10" - http://tinyurl.com/2aaoqmv | Nov 21 22:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz so? shooting airporn pictures wouldn't have revealed their plans to crash planes | Nov 21 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | "Dell has form on software patent deals (e.g. 1999 Dell/IBM) and they aren't exactly the enemies of MS. :)" http://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6475045148819456 | Nov 21 22:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope but have we proper proof that it was a patent deal in 2007? I wrote a lot about it, no smoking gun yet | Nov 21 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Don't worry, the TSA are working on brain scans too I am sure. | Nov 21 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva it would if the TERROR~1 got a hardon just thinking about it :-/ | Nov 21 22:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] #WTF?!? ♻ @webmink: FDA grants pharma company monopoly on ancient gout drug Colchicine, price jumps from 9¢ to $4.85: http://bit.ly/bjethE | Nov 21 22:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many women in the history of aviation hijacked a plane? We could cut TSA queues by half. | Nov 21 22:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: How many women in the history of aviation hijacked a plane? We could cut TSA queues by half. | Nov 21 22:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @freemor Wedging #Feather linux on a machine with just 32mb of ram | Nov 21 22:47 | |
| schestowitz | "well then they would make women start doing it... " https://identi.ca/notice/59033429 | Nov 21 22:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@reality [sarcasm]yes, I'm sure many women can't wait to crash a plane, if only the TSA stopped watching them naked[/sarcasm] | Nov 21 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz would men then become transexuals to explode planes, hoping to get their stuff back in heaven for the 7*7 virgins? | Nov 21 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera This missile defence shield nonsense just will not lay down. Corporate welfare for defence companies. Cheap and easy 2 overcome | Nov 21 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva people who crash planes never mess with their junk | Nov 21 22:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/pope-says-condoms-acceptable-in-certain-cases-book-20101121-1824r.html | Nov 21 22:53 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe the pope is having an affair :-) | Nov 21 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If a person who approaches the TSA gate starts stripping, does that quality as indecent exposure? Would be funny to try. #airporn | Nov 21 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When the underwear bomber's 'successor' swallows something to get it on plane, will laxatives and enema become mandatory for all passengers? | Nov 21 22:59 | |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 21 23:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst you forgot the attachment | Nov 21 23:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @openbytes: OPENBYTES: REVIEW: Chromium BSU – A top down shooter for Linux! http://tinyurl.com/232rea3 #linux #gaming #foss COOL! | Nov 21 23:04 | |
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| schestowitz | " Novell/MSFT covenanted no patent aggression on Novell's customers, Dell became a customer of Novell. It ain't direct..." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6478208178327553 | Nov 21 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | "but it would severely limit MS's ability to come calling with the patent portifolio." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6478360515448833 | Nov 21 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | " It's not a direct cross licence, but MS needed Dell onside in 2007 and spent that IP capital getting them on board." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6478894844608512 | Nov 21 23:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @schestowitz that was tried. The police were called but no arrest was made. I don't have the link handy tho :( | Nov 21 23:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] New blog post plotting Arts Council England grants: "Exploring Art Data 3" - http://is.gd/hyqRV | Nov 21 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope I agree entirely. That's more or less how I read it. | Nov 21 23:11 | |
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| schestowitz | "alas it would probably be something like http://is.gd/hypcU " https://twitter.com/jdp23/status/6480865488019456 | Nov 21 23:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nhi I think I heard of that. People get very scared and phone the police when they see naked people, not naked animals. | Nov 21 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I listened to a very good !mageia interview earlier, from towards the end of October, with one of the #mageia founders: http://ur1.ca/2ed29 | Nov 21 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA airport screeners gone wild in San Diego- again http://is.gd/hyrxB via @jdp23 | Nov 21 23:14 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: oh lost the URL bot | Nov 21 23:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz When the underwear bomber's 'successor' swallows something to get it on plane, will laxatives and enema become mandatory ... | Nov 21 23:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To win, the TERROR~1 don't need to get past the TSA, they just need to use the TSA to have Westerners treated like cattle http://is.gd/hyrPW | Nov 21 23:16 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/larrysalibra/status/6481805272162305 "Through security at CLE in 30 seconds today including line. No pat down or scan. #TSA cc @schestowitz @natfriedman" | Nov 21 23:16 |
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| sebsebseb | http://ur1.ca/2ed29 | Nov 21 23:16 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm and again | Nov 21 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ml2mst excellent, passed to @openbytes | Nov 21 23:19 | |
| schestowitz | "nobody's "winning"." Through security at CLE in 30 seconds today including line. No pat down or scan. #TSA cc @schestowitz @natfriedman | Nov 21 23:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/6485473664958464 | Nov 21 23:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/ml2mst/status/6485138410053632 "Yeah. I guess @openbytes just wanted to give it some attention to debunk the "no games for Linux" myth ;-)" | Nov 21 23:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz To win, the TERROR~1 don't need to get past the TSA, they just need to use the TSA to have Westerners treated like cattl ... | Nov 21 23:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Off to SF for the !nanowrimo Night of Writing Dangerously | Nov 21 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA apologists miss the point about freedom or deliberately mislead with "if you have nothing yo hide" line. Old trick to boost #airporn | Nov 21 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #TSA would love to spread the perception that those who complain about degradation of civil liberties fear being seen naked. Not true. | Nov 21 23:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @johnsu01 Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of Fortunately we already have a fix for this -- email. | Nov 21 23:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] What a revolting development, #Caprica was cancelled. | Nov 21 23:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Show report from Severed Fifth live in Modesto last night - http://is.gd/hytCQ #severedfifth | Nov 21 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dissidence is the new "piracy". Activism if the new "terrorism". Liberty is the new "marxism". FOSS is the new "communism"? | Nov 21 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz RT @johnsu01 Facebook blocking private messages based on content: http://ur1.ca/2e2of Fortunately we already have a fix ... | Nov 21 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] About 100 years ago, alcohol was a banned drug in several countries and some of today's illegal drugs were widely used, legally. #flagging | Nov 21 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] http://tinyurl.com/23um7sy "Bernard Salt is a KPMG partner." No, Bernard, I'm not terribly special, but at least I'm not an accountant. | Nov 21 23:31 | |
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| gnubie | http://seilo.geekyogre.com/2010/11/unity-place-people-day-2/ | Nov 21 23:31 |
| gnubie | note the names that are in the friends list | Nov 21 23:31 |
| schestowitz | I saw that | Nov 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | But what names? | Nov 21 23:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to defeat terrorists? Assign a bunch of dudes to watch a 3-year-old girl naked in a scanner that x-rays the *** out of her body cells | Nov 21 23:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @f1nux ♻ @N1GHTFALL: Breaking News. Steve Jobs is to buy Ireland to solve the debt problem. It will be rebranded iLand #Bailout <LoL #fbs | Nov 21 23:32 | |
| gnubie | Hylke Bons (mono guy), David Schlesinger (mono guy), Alex Launi (mono guy), Sandy Armstrong (mono guy), Alex Gravely (mono guy) | Nov 21 23:33 |
| gnubie | and those are just ones I've *seen* promoting mono that are in his friends list | Nov 21 23:33 |
| gnubie | no wonder zeitgeist caters to mono | Nov 21 23:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODgwNg | Nov 21 23:34 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 21 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Perpetual wars are a very, very old tactics. Those in power gain more power when their people feel like they need to be protected. | Nov 21 23:34 | |
| schestowitz | But he's pro-Mono | Nov 21 23:34 |
| schestowitz | ANd he was in this channel a few times | Nov 21 23:34 |
| gnubie | I see | Nov 21 23:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz ... and over-centralization on the grounds that "we need people we can trust" is historic way to control the populace. | Nov 21 23:36 | |
| gnubie | how can anyone be friends with these mono trolls? | Nov 21 23:37 |
| gnubie | does | Nov 21 23:37 |
| gnubie | does. not. compute. | Nov 21 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz People don't seem to understand that terror~1 goals are to make authorities overreact and so change people's loyalties. | Nov 21 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The healthcare cartel is said to be causing 45,000 US unneeded deaths per year (due to insurance conspiracy)."War on healthcare cartel" yet? | Nov 21 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I have bought stuff that I wish now I hadn't | Nov 21 23:37 | |
| gnubie | btw, I told a few friends about the techbytes podcast | Nov 21 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Define friends. gnubie | Nov 21 23:38 |
| gnubie | audiocast | Nov 21 23:38 |
| gnubie | people I know | Nov 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | thanks! | Nov 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | I have another one coming in a few minutes | Nov 21 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 right. Terrorism is nothing new. The "War" on it was merely _re_announced in 2001. | Nov 21 23:39 | |
| oiaohm | My grounds I have to be annoyend with mono are based on issues in design and legal. | Nov 21 23:39 |
| gnubie | schestowitz: one friend said he googled for it and found a another podcast by the name of techbytes | Nov 21 23:40 |
| gnubie | just an fyi | Nov 21 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Like for iphone mono developers can produce a .net to native conversion that works but for linux no you have to use a memory sucking JIT. | Nov 21 23:40 |
| gnubie | oiaohm: because they hate linux | Nov 21 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @schestowitz those are the real death panels, for the marketplace is used to decide who will live and who is expendable to die | Nov 21 23:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Firefox 4.0 For Linux Finally Gets A Unified Menu http://goo.gl/ktfo9 | Nov 21 23:41 | |
| gnubie | and freedom | Nov 21 23:41 |
| oiaohm | I see it as land mining. gnubie | Nov 21 23:41 |
| gnubie | land mining? | Nov 21 23:41 |
| oiaohm | Native converted all uses cannot be attacked by the patents MS holds. | Nov 21 23:41 |
| gnubie | right | Nov 21 23:42 |
| oiaohm | If you have to use the runtime you can be. | Nov 21 23:42 |
| gnubie | that's why they refuse to do it for linux I bet | Nov 21 23:42 |
| gnubie | they want to push patent infringing software on unsuspecting users | Nov 21 23:42 |
| gnubie | so theyir friends can sue sue sue | Nov 21 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] @schestowitz 1984 was intended as a warning, it was never meant to be a "how-to" for western governments | Nov 21 23:42 | |
| oiaohm | Really when the IP agreement between novell and MS ends things could get interesting. | Nov 21 23:42 |
| gnubie | when does it end? | Nov 21 23:43 |
| oiaohm | It was only a 5 year deal. | Nov 21 23:43 |
| gnubie | I know, it must end soon | Nov 21 23:43 |
| oiaohm | End of next year | Nov 21 23:44 |
| gnubie | I bet M$ already has the court documents all lined up and ready to go | Nov 21 23:44 |
| oiaohm | Roughly 12 months from new. | Nov 21 23:44 |
| oiaohm | new/now | Nov 21 23:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The shape of airplanes is suggestive. It's trying to tell us what it wants of us before we board it. #tsa | Nov 21 23:46 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi dyfet | Nov 21 23:50 |
| dyfet | hi | Nov 21 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | dyfet: anyway schestowitz is here | Nov 21 23:50 |
| dyfet | cool! | Nov 21 23:50 |
| gnubie | oiaohm they seem to be pushing more proprietary mono stuff | Nov 21 23:50 |
| gnubie | like monotouch | Nov 21 23:51 |
| gnubie | and monodroid now | Nov 21 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | dyfet: If I remember correctly you wanted to chat to him | Nov 21 23:51 |
| gnubie | monodroid makes me lol | Nov 21 23:51 |
| gnubie | no one is going to use that shit | Nov 21 23:51 |
| dyfet | I did? I don't specifically recall | Nov 21 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | dyfet: ok maybe that was someone else then | Nov 21 23:51 |
| gnubie | just like no one uses monotouch I bet | Nov 21 23:51 |
| dyfet | ah... | Nov 21 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | someone wasn't happy about how schestowitz had wrorte/typed about them on his blog | Nov 21 23:52 |
| dyfet | oh, that I had not heard about | Nov 21 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KINect #fail (video) http://is.gd/hywU7 | Nov 21 23:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc3 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 21 23:52 | |
| sebsebseb | dyfet: oh it wasn't really a big deal anyway | Nov 21 23:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxkernel Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc3 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 21 23:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] troll in irc says they should call #fedora and #ubuntu gnu/windows because #linux is so unlike #unix these days #fail | Nov 21 23:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @schestowitz KINect #fail (video) http://is.gd/hywU7 | Nov 21 23:56 | |
| _Goblin | sebsebseb: I think you were meaning this user: http://www.dwasifar.com/?p=1424 | Nov 21 23:56 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: yep that's the one, and you were there at the time as well | Nov 21 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | anyway is Episode 11 up yet? | Nov 21 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | no? | Nov 21 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | new intro theme holiding the upload back or something? | Nov 21 23:57 |
| gnubie | looks like schestowitz still has some hecklers ;) | Nov 21 23:58 |
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