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| sebsebseb | who are you gnubie ? | Nov 22 00:00 |
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| gnubie | (referring to Goblin's link) | Nov 22 00:01 |
| gnubie | sebsebseb: just a follower | Nov 22 00:01 |
| gnubie | of techrights/bytes | Nov 22 00:01 |
| gnubie | and occasional contributor | Nov 22 00:02 |
| _Goblin | ooh.....don't like the term "follower".....you are your own person with views and opinions just as valid as anyone elses.... | Nov 22 00:02 |
| _Goblin | how about...... | Nov 22 00:02 |
| _Goblin | "Observer" | Nov 22 00:02 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: it's up now | Nov 22 00:02 |
| gnubie | Goblin: heh, sounds good :) | Nov 22 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | no no all our opinions don't matter, since we don't love and worship Microsoft or Apple :D | Nov 22 00:03 |
| gnubie | sebsebseb: sure seems that way sometimes | Nov 22 00:03 |
| gnubie | I don't understand how icaza can still have so much influence | Nov 22 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | gnubie: sadly that is very much the case, for most of the developed world | Nov 22 00:03 |
| _Goblin | I don't worship anything.....the only opinion I agree with 100% is my own. | Nov 22 00:03 |
| gnubie | and how people can still listen to him | Nov 22 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | gnubie: majorly locked into propritary software in education and work places | Nov 22 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | _Goblin: I was joking | Nov 22 00:04 |
| _Goblin | i know | Nov 22 00:04 |
| ThistleWeb | <_Goblin> I don't worship anything.....the only opinion I agree with 100% is my own. << I even disagree with myself from time to time | Nov 22 00:04 |
| ThistleWeb | keeps life interesting | Nov 22 00:04 |
| _Goblin | thats worrying.... | Nov 22 00:04 |
| *sebsebseb when looking back, can think of a few stupid things, he did | Nov 22 00:04 | |
| gnubie | sebsebseb: I quit school, didn't want to use ms or crapple computers anymore | Nov 22 00:04 |
| schestowitz | gnubie: the mobbyists are harassing PJ now | Nov 22 00:04 |
| _Goblin | I don't think Ive argued with myself before... ;) | Nov 22 00:04 |
| gnubie | schestowitz: I know | Nov 22 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Miguel de Ballmer joins them | Nov 22 00:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @j1mc: The gedit team stays classy - someone offers to send them money, and the team encourages them to contribute to Gnome. goo.gl/KW6Ae | Nov 22 00:06 | |
| gnubie | too bad people can't really be kicked out of the community | Nov 22 00:06 |
| gnubie | I would so like to see him and his mono friends kicked out | Nov 22 00:06 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/87973177ae88229b# | Nov 22 00:06 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: you've just been RTed by a zombie marketing account | Nov 22 00:08 |
| schestowitz | "kinectgame" | Nov 22 00:08 |
| _Goblin | :) | Nov 22 00:08 |
| schestowitz | me: say hello to Twitter account "kinectgame", an AstroTurfing account surely, auto-RTing people's messages. #fraud #pr #microsoft | Nov 22 00:08 |
| gnubie | report it for spam ;) | Nov 22 00:09 |
| _Goblin | quite coincidental after tonights show | Nov 22 00:09 |
| _Goblin | I said we were up to date... | Nov 22 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | anything else about Mageia in the latest show? | Nov 22 00:10 |
| _Goblin | no....thats for another one.. | Nov 22 00:10 |
| sebsebseb | well Monday here as of a little while ago | Nov 22 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | and so maybe, I chat on there this week | Nov 22 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Thing to notice volume of MS PR junk is down. | Nov 22 00:11 |
| ThistleWeb | advertising budgie is being cut back | Nov 22 00:12 |
| ThistleWeb | budget* | Nov 22 00:12 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: maybe since they are starting to reolise, that most compuer users will still be usign them in the next few years | Nov 22 00:12 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: yeah, I wrote that | Nov 22 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We've only just talked about Microsoft's Twitter AstroTurfers in a show we published minutes before the "kinectgame" Turfer hit us @ twitter | Nov 22 00:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tell Microsoft that Twitter/identica are networks for people, not for marketing bots.Tell the FTC to "man up" and crack down on AstroTurfing | Nov 22 00:12 | |
| ThistleWeb | most of the MS promotion is paid, when they stop getting paid, they don't do it for nothing | Nov 22 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm the first notice there ^ | Nov 22 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: you got a space before twitter | Nov 22 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | so maybe that didn't send properly | Nov 22 00:13 |
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| oiaohm | Yep recent years has been one of the first times there promotion buggets got cut. | Nov 22 00:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/parlousuk/status/6489807320514561 "... and nothing wrong with as long as we don't abuse them. We all need to 'switch off'' and get away from the harsh realities!" | Nov 22 00:14 |
| oiaohm | I like with the kinnet thing of MS. We designed it to be used open. Ok why in hell did you threaten the code who made the Linux driver. | Nov 22 00:14 |
| oiaohm | code/coder | Nov 22 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | / sucker :d | Nov 22 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | if someone makes open source drivers for Microsoft hardware, then they help Microsoft, its as simple as that | Nov 22 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Really not. | Nov 22 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | and so they may be called suckers by some :D | Nov 22 00:16 |
| oiaohm | This case the device is sold for less than production cost. sebsebseb | Nov 22 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I don't really care about Xbox 360 | Nov 22 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Because ms had ideas of making the difference back from games using it. | Nov 22 00:16 |
| schestowitz | maybe publicity stunt, imho | Nov 22 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | and it doesn't really efffect me much personalley :) | Nov 22 00:16 |
| schestowitz | They also paid someone to write zune drivers for linux iirc | Nov 22 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Really there is some interesting tech in the that one device. | Nov 22 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Res crap but. | Nov 22 00:17 |
| oiaohm | Still interesting tech. | Nov 22 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | Res ??? | Nov 22 00:17 |
| schestowitz | resolution | Nov 22 00:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Examples of #twitter #astroturfing by #Microsoft http://is.gd/hyAle http://is.gd/hyAlm http://is.gd/hyAnx http://is.gd/hyAnN | Nov 22 00:17 | |
| sebsebseb | thoguht he probably meant that | Nov 22 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | anyway thats a bit like saying: oh there are some interesting mobile phone operating systems such as Android, but mobile phones are still very propritary | Nov 22 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Yes schestowitz got it. | Nov 22 00:18 |
| sebsebseb | I have a bit of an interesti in mobile phones from a technical point of view, but thats it, I see them as a very popular device for the ignorant consumer, and business people | Nov 22 00:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dedoimedo.com/physics/zombies.html Zombies, pocketbook, survival, Dedoimedo style | Nov 22 00:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's a certain fact, this world couldn't support many "environmental activists" like Bono, a million, at the very most. Talk is cheap Mr Vox | Nov 22 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !listening to ATB vs. ATC - Summer Around the World by DJ Kazun | Nov 22 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @schestowitz: Tell Microsoft that Twitter/identica are networks for people. Tell the FTC to "man up" and crack down on AstroTurfing | Nov 22 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Examples of #twitter #astroturfing by #Microsoft http://is.gd/hyAle http://is.gd/hyAlm http://is.gd/hyAnx http://is.gd/hyAnN | Nov 22 00:19 | |
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| oiaohm | Android is just a first wave sebsebseb | Nov 22 00:19 |
| sebsebseb | first wave? | Nov 22 00:19 |
| schestowitz | badda | Nov 22 00:20 |
| oiaohm | Mobile phones for a long term have been highly closed. | Nov 22 00:20 |
| schestowitz | meaning ocean? | Nov 22 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: yep closed and propritary/commerical | Nov 22 00:20 |
| oiaohm | Even getting Android onto phones was unthinkable 10 years ago. | Nov 22 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | even these more open phoens such as Android phones, will be yep rathe commerical/propritary, they are sold for money at the end of the day | Nov 22 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah | Nov 22 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | plus the service they run | Nov 22 00:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: We've only just talked about M$'s Twitter AstroTurfers in a show we published minutes before the "kinectgame" Turfer hit us | Nov 22 00:21 | |
| oiaohm | Android uses a highly permissive license for most of its code base. | Nov 22 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | Android onto phones 10 years ago unthinkable, you meant to put Linux? | Nov 22 00:21 |
| oiaohm | So really is not designed to force the platforms open. | Nov 22 00:21 |
| oiaohm | 10 years ago Linux phones were rare to non existant. sebsebseb | Nov 22 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Think of android as freebsd against Unix. | Nov 22 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | 10 years ago, Desktop Linux was mainly/only for computer geeks | Nov 22 00:22 |
| sebsebseb | or not since that was 2000 | Nov 22 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Opps Bsd against Unix. | Nov 22 00:22 |
| oiaohm | BSD opened the Unix world up so much by its presence. | Nov 22 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | well anyway first few years or so, what I just said, I guess | Nov 22 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Ie first wave softing them up to the idea of being more open. | Nov 22 00:23 |
| oiaohm | We need the second wave at this stage that would be meego | Nov 22 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Where more of the code base is protected by tighter licences so forcing more open treatment. | Nov 22 00:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] more awesomeness (modulo poor performance in portrait) of Plasma Mobile + MeeGo + Lenovo laptop w/touch: http://ur1.ca/2edjv | Nov 22 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] given that it's just a few days since the hardware actually landed in their laps, this is very good imho :) | Nov 22 00:24 | |
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| sebsebseb | oiaohm: ok come on Meego I guess then | Nov 22 00:25 |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: android growth alone is a huge step forward. | Nov 22 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | well yes and no to that | Nov 22 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | most users of Android as far as I know, don't even know they are running Linux | Nov 22 00:25 |
| oiaohm | At least now we stand a chance of talking with makers on opening it up. | Nov 22 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | and if they do know they are running something inside the phone called Linux, I guess many still won't know what it is | Nov 22 00:25 |
| oiaohm | I never expected Linux to be sold to the end users as linux. | Nov 22 00:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] TSA resembles crime syndicate http://ur1.ca/2edka | Nov 22 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Someone whom I converted from Windows to Linux (KDE) told me that he found out #Vista7 is just a !kde 4 ripoff :-) | Nov 22 00:26 | |
| oiaohm | Android Meego Ubuntu ie some tag will be used instead. | Nov 22 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | also Ubuntu drop the term Linux more | Nov 22 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | now days | Nov 22 00:26 |
| oiaohm | Long term creating the appearence of competition. | Nov 22 00:26 |
| oiaohm | When really there is none. | Nov 22 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | even the term Gnome in 10.10, when it comes to the sessions | Nov 22 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | instead they call it Ubuntu Desktop | Nov 22 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | on the log in scren | Nov 22 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | well Android and Meego will compete against each other here and there, but both are Linux sure | Nov 22 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu vs other distros, as well, but all Linux | Nov 22 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Really the worst thing that could happen is Linux sold as Linux. | Nov 22 00:27 |
| oiaohm | and competition dry up. | Nov 22 00:28 |
| oiaohm | We need competition as one of the reasons for people to develop stuff. | Nov 22 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm well yeah | Nov 22 00:28 |
| oiaohm | gcc vs llvm | Nov 22 00:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz Someone whom I converted from Windows to Linux (KDE) told me that he found out #Vista7 is just a !kde 4 ripoff :-) | Nov 22 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz KDE 4.5 is most comfortable DE I've ever used. Nice, polished, easy, intuitive, etc, . It took some time, but KDE got it right | Nov 22 00:32 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: maybe use <audio>? In the blog.... | Nov 22 00:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @rms: TSA resembles crime syndicate http://ur1.ca/2edka | Nov 22 00:34 | |
| _Goblin | it won't let me. | Nov 22 00:34 |
| _Goblin | I can't embed audio from a source.....video is allowed via use tube but html code is deleted everytime I try to enter it. | Nov 22 00:35 |
| _Goblin | I had the same prob when I tried having a shoutbox | Nov 22 00:35 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59036871 "I have said the same myself a few times. In fact some Aussie guys went out and showed people KDE 4 and told them it was vista7." | Nov 22 00:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @agentsmith !KDE 4.5 is most comfortable DE I've ever used. Nice, polished, easy, intuitive, etc. It took some time, but KDE got it right | Nov 22 00:36 | |
| schestowitz | In this case the user was new to Linux and there was no suggestion that there was a ripoff except when he said it | Nov 22 00:36 |
| _Goblin | it will allow me to link it.....but not embedd. | Nov 22 00:36 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: are you using a WYSiWyg UI? | Nov 22 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Cause i do plain HTML | Nov 22 00:37 |
| _Goblin | I am using the HTML UI tab.... | Nov 22 00:38 |
| _Goblin | you can switch between wysiwyg and HTML via a tab on the web UI | Nov 22 00:39 |
| _Goblin | it just keeps deleting my code. | Nov 22 00:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @engadget: Palm webOS 'Enyo' framework paves the way for tablets and larger phones (video) http://engt.co/aweVEd | Nov 22 00:39 | |
| _Goblin | (like it did when tried to insert shoutbox code) | Nov 22 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Palm webOS 'Enyo' framework paves the way for tablets and larger phones (video) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 63.66 KB | Nov 22 00:39 |
| schestowitz | so before posting final change to HTML view | Nov 22 00:39 |
| _Goblin | Ive tried. I have a feeling I can only do it if I upgrade my account. | Nov 22 00:39 |
| _Goblin | or maybe Im just being thick.... | Nov 22 00:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @ruiseabra was it good? I liked BSG, but was told it was not quite like it | Nov 22 00:44 | |
| cubezzz | two hours... geez, you guys talk a lot :) | Nov 22 00:45 |
| cubezzz | gordon = thistleweb I guess? | Nov 22 00:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Class-Action Lawsuit In the Making: No Windows 7 Refund http://is.gd/hyEvm I hear more such cases are coming. #vista7 !gnu !linux #lockin | Nov 22 00:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dyfet: @schestowitz 1984 was intended as a warning, it was never meant to be a "how-to" for western governments | Nov 22 00:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Class-Action Lawsuit In the Making: No Windows 7 Refund | Acrossad.org .::. Size~: 23.44 KB | Nov 22 00:47 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59037225 "Such a sensible person is likely to be a permanent Linux convert." "@ddevine he is.One week later #Vista7 wiped his entire dual-boot setup that I did for him(MBR). He then installed #Fedora 14 himself, easily" | Nov 22 00:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Daniel Devine (ddevine)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-10 00:40:17 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.42 KB | Nov 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes | Nov 22 00:48 |
| cubezzz | vocal quality is pretty good | Nov 22 00:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: A Class-Action Lawsuit In the Making: No Windows 7 Refund http://is.gd/hyEvm I hear more such cases are coming. #vista7 | Nov 22 00:51 | |
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| _Goblin | cubezzz: It was a long one this time! | Nov 22 00:52 |
| cubezzz | yes, listening to it now | Nov 22 00:52 |
| cubezzz | anyways, I can use pause if necessary | Nov 22 00:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE 4 Look Part 3: A Week of KDE 4.5 http://is.gd/hyFgL !kde 4.3 is fantastic, many nice themes too | Nov 22 00:52 | |
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| cubezzz | regarding older computer users... some of them predate windows by quite a lot of years | Nov 22 00:54 |
| cubezzz | 1977 to 1984 is windows free | Nov 22 00:55 |
| cubezzz | I admit, it's not a large time period | Nov 22 00:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA [video] http://is.gd/hyFPb !playogg | Nov 22 00:56 | |
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| cubezzz | I can go farther... in the 80's I almost never used doze | Nov 22 00:57 |
| cubezzz | just windows 2.0 briefly | Nov 22 00:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @agentsmith @schestowitz KDE 4.5 is most comfortable DE I've ever used. Nice, polished, easy, intuitive, etc, . It took some time, bu ... | Nov 22 00:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Note to self: looks like chromium does not support options ndots from resolv.conf ... | Nov 22 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @aaronmhill: bit.ly/Ok6rN "Do I have the right to refuse this search" - assessment of #TSA security failures by a former police officer. | Nov 22 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz @ufa just got a MS Windows reimbursement in .br http://www.technotroll.org/blablabla/2010/11/19/fim/ (in pt_BR) | Nov 22 01:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: TSA airpor[n] screeners gone wild in San Diego- again http://is.gd/hyrxB via @jdp23 | Nov 22 01:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @foulbastard: Absolute proof that TSA practices are a pedophile's wet-dream come true. ur1.ca/2eduk | Nov 22 01:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @Tatty: Most kids won't mind the TSA touching their genitalia They grew up with it. What will the next gen put up with? | Nov 22 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | "Dammit I thought the little x ray photos on the left were doing YMCA." https://identi.ca/notice/59037953 | Nov 22 01:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/11/2010: #KDE 4.5 and KDE SC 4.7 Plans, #Fedora Elections http://is.gd/hyI1r | Nov 22 01:12 | |
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| schestowitz | gn | Nov 22 01:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok gn | Nov 22 01:20 |
| oiaohm | KDE SC 4.7 should line up with when meego is getting its footings. | Nov 22 01:26 |
| sebsebseb | oiaohm: uhmm? | Nov 22 01:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Cholera secrecy http://ur1.ca/2edz0 | Nov 22 01:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !NanoWriMo wordcount at 39,070 ... I'm on a push to try and make it to 45,000 before bed... I may be crazed but I'm giving it a shot. | Nov 22 01:31 | |
| oiaohm | sebsebseb: partly forcast stuff. sebsebseb | Nov 22 01:44 |
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| sebsebseb | hi malacoda | Nov 22 01:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] XvMC With iDCT Now Working On Gallium3D: A month ago there was the surprising work done by Christian König to br... http://bit.ly/9u6B9R | Nov 22 01:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Blogging is futile — Useful but Unknown Unix Tools: netselect http://noone.org/blog/English/Computer/Debian/CoolTools/netselect.html | Nov 22 01:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Berlusconi and the mafia http://ur1.ca/2eec8 | Nov 22 02:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @threethirty: ♻ @Jason: rad YouTube - Real time lightsaber on the Kinect on PC jc.is/bNIEFM <- this looks promising and on Linux too! | Nov 22 02:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101122 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 22 03:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Republicans drove out green jobs http://ur1.ca/2eera | Nov 22 03:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Linux 2.6.37-rc3 Kernel Comes Around: One week after the relatively painless Linux 2.6.37-rc2 release came about... http://bit.ly/asgT8H | Nov 22 03:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening to #TheLinuxActionShow #podcast | Nov 22 03:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] FWS on GM salmon http://ur1.ca/2ef5p | Nov 22 04:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @xenijardin: Gropethink, n.: The lack of individual willingness to revolt against the TSA's invasive "enhanced" screenings | Nov 22 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @chriswaterguy Cool new !StatusNet & !Identica feature. "Remote Profile Options" to subscribe/flag users from other sites. Hover for ... | Nov 22 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The State of The Music Industry and the Delegitimization of Artists. https://eff.org/r.u6y | Nov 22 04:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: The State of The Music Industry and the Delegitimization of Artists. https://eff.org/r.u6y | Nov 22 04:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Managed a big 2832 words today before midnight. Not terrible, but not great. Since I'm *not* falling asleep on the keyboard, i'll push on | Nov 22 05:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jezra that's pretty cool. My Canadian !NaNoWriMo group's all nighter will be next weekend. | Nov 22 05:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I have to tell you, it is MUCH easier to write with a plot. Just think what your wordcount would be if you had one. | Nov 22 05:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @reality: Man, it's the Canadexodus around here. | Nov 22 05:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Another great interview from Joe Barker, this time with Zach Kriesse - http://is.gd/hzjvK #ubuntu | Nov 22 05:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] No KMS? No Mesa? Run Wayland Off A Linux Framebuffer!: Besides needing to get the various tool-kits and other li... http://bit.ly/8XqA5J | Nov 22 05:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] We now have a Ubuntu LoCo Teams page on Facebook - go and join it at http://is.gd/hzlpk #ubuntu #locoteams | Nov 22 05:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 8: Relaxation ... http://ur1.ca/2eflz | Nov 22 05:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @TheDudeDean: TSA Enhanced Screening Procedures Explained. When TSA gropes me, I will fake orgasm. #TSA http://fb.me/wf5JP6I3 | Nov 22 05:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh my: the TSA is frightened by slinky underwear: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/21/my-tsa-stripdown-vid.html (via @boingboing) | Nov 22 06:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva: I liked it a lot, and they were setting up a pretty good long term plot but it didn't have enough action for big audiences. | Nov 22 06:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: Oh my: the TSA is frightened by slinky underwear: ur1.ca/2efo5 | Nov 22 06:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to BennyGoodman Live at Carnegie Hall "One O'Clock Jump" 1938 shouldn't it be public domain? back to my !NaNoWriMo MS !copyright | Nov 22 06:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @foulbastard: Reporter gets messed up after saying "nipple ring" at the end. http://bit.ly/bwI2ZY More TSA horror stories. :( | Nov 22 06:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @dpic RT @thornet National patriotism is outdated. Teach me instead how to be a citizen of the world. | Nov 22 06:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] In case you haven't noticed yet, #ConanOBrien is back in his new #Conan show. | Nov 22 06:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #TSA national anthem: Justin Timberlake's "Rock Your Body" ... gotta have you naked by the end of this song | Nov 22 06:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @nhi ♻ @foulbastard: Reporter gets messed up after saying "nipple ring" at the end. http://bit.ly/bwI2ZY More TSA horror stories. :( | Nov 22 06:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rahulsundaram Just finished voting in the #Fedora Elections. Pick your choice of candidates at http://ur1.ca/02gzy | Nov 22 06:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @nhi ♻ @TSAagent: Damn well better believe we'll strip search a kid in the middle of the airport! http://goo.gl/Gh8D2 #TSA #badtouch | Nov 22 06:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @nhi ♻ @xenijardin: TSA security molestation leaves 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor crying, soaked in own urine. http://is.gd/hvBla | Nov 22 06:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Did the security level rise the "red" or is the TSA just trying to have lots more fun, making it feel like military state? | Nov 22 06:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] watermelon candy should be called watermelon rind candy: it always reminds me of biting into the green rind rather than the juicy flesh. :( | Nov 22 06:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost only parts of the coast are rain forest. b.c. has tundra, desert, alpine, marshlands ... | Nov 22 06:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost the dirty/industrialized comment is very funny from someone in the UK. or did you only hang out in Prince Rupert or sth? ;) | Nov 22 06:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rrix you do realize that we're only in soft freeze, right? :) | Nov 22 06:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @schestowitz US govment's national threat level is Elevated. For all domestic & int flights, the U.S. threat level is High. Neither Red | Nov 22 06:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Erasing A "Friend": An Examination of "Friends" On the Internet http://is.gd/hzsOh flipping "friends" booleans on other people's databases | Nov 22 06:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lxoliva “corporations tamed humans, who now serve as their workhorses, watchdogs, etc”--Roberto Verzola http://bit.ly/cX7nrj | Nov 22 06:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nhi thanks, I didn't know. Do they give a reason? | Nov 22 06:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nhi I mean, U.S. threat level for car accidents should always be "High" (many deaths), but I don't see them doing much to reduce it | Nov 22 06:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @schestowitz They rarely give reasons, just "It's based on Intell". | Nov 22 06:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost the Okanagan is an inland fruit growing region with one major lake. safe to say it isn't a rain forest. ;) | Nov 22 06:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] @schestowitz lol true but car accidents aren't consodered terrorist attacks (yet) | Nov 22 06:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nhi OK then. It's not like they ever made mistakes about Iraq's threat. | Nov 22 07:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nhi unless the car has explosives in it | Nov 22 07:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @kernellogauthor #linux #stable review: 2.6.27.56 (5 Patches) http://bit.ly/coPWGR 2.6.32.26 (45) http://bit.ly/cGTpSi 2.6.36.1 (66).. | Nov 22 07:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost and yes, Abbotsford is not pretty. sorry you didn't get to experience the beauty of B.C. :/ | Nov 22 07:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Constructive Cambodian http://is.gd/hzuYy about software freedom, via @satipera | Nov 22 07:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sdaffer I really liked the review of !kde. Encouraged me to try it again. Lovin it so far. // version 4.5 is fantastic! 4.3 was good too. | Nov 22 07:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TSA Investigating ‘Don’t Touch My Junk’ Passenger http://is.gd/hzvEc | Nov 22 07:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rysiek "land of the free" my ass (sic!) ur1.ca/2e96b ur1.ca/2e97c | Nov 22 07:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rysiek holy sh**! 'The TSA supervisor told him, “By buying your ticket you gave up a lot of rights.”' | Nov 22 07:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: #TSA Investigating ‘Don’t Touch My Junk’ Passenger http://is.gd/hzvEc | Nov 22 07:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: RT @rysiek holy sh**! 'The TSA supervisor told him, “By buying your ticket you gave up a lot of rights.”' | Nov 22 07:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost if you want a mind blowing experience, go up to haida gwai and do some camping. | Nov 22 07:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[graziano/@graziano] #Mozilla Plans A (libre?) “Mobile Device Independent” App Store: http://digitizor.com/2010/11/22/mozilla-app-store/ !icecat | Nov 22 07:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOOOOOOL! http://www.nichtlustig.de/toondb/101118.html #angereichertesuran #german #joke | Nov 22 07:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @seeds Help! Linux ate my RAM! http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | Nov 22 07:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] learn about Chinese Internet at the Sinica Podcast http://bit.ly/cMstbg | Nov 22 07:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra Another #monumental #fail from Windows Phone 7 with #drm #antiuser #feature s http://is.gd/hzAzj !dbd | Nov 22 07:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana This made me chuckle: http://bit.ly/9FXFoB #wikipedia | Nov 22 07:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak ... you know it's only been for a few days. :) Those are coming http://ur1.ca/2eaff http://ur1.ca/2eafg http://ur1.ca/2eafh | Nov 22 07:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @seeds ♺ @ellipsis: Canonical boosting #Linux kernel contributions. http://bit.ly/9cUnDj #ubuntu | Nov 22 07:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @fontana Trying out !KDE desktop on #fedora 14 > /me loves it | Nov 22 07:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @nhi ♻ @xenijardin: TSA security molestation leaves 61-year-old bladder cancer survivor crying, soaked in own urine. h ... | Nov 22 07:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @satipera Nokia's former MeeGo chief confirms new role as Senior VP of webOS at HP - http://ur1.ca/2eb5r | Nov 22 07:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo well, fuck me with an oversized spiky trout. *goes to mail kdepim@lko* | Nov 22 07:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @ruiseabra Finally risking the preupgrade to !fedora 14... here's to hoping it'll all be alright when it's finished! | Nov 22 07:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Get gorgeous transparent blurred app windows in Kubuntu http://is.gd/hzE3M !kde feature in general, @omgubuntu should point this out | Nov 22 07:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @seeds ♺ @popey: NHS sending tracking data to Facebook, Google, others.. http://is.gd/hxVEN | Nov 22 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] had a good day. | Nov 22 07:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @trashbird1240 I'm currently debating supporting open access; lots of library people seem to support it; opinions? | Nov 22 07:56 | |
| schestowitz | Heh. http://whoacanada.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/bill-c-32-and-the-environment/ :-) Bill C-32 and the Environment | Nov 22 08:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bill C-32 and the Environment « Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 44.06 KB | Nov 22 08:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Hahahaha http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Free-ClamWin-virus-scanner-moves-most-of-Windows-into-quarantine-1139430.html Best AV ever! | Nov 22 08:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free ClamWin virus scanner moves most of Windows into quarantine - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.58 KB | Nov 22 08:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @laurelrusswurm "Bill C-32 and the Environment" the new Oh! Canada blog post: http://ur1.ca/2ecir // thanks for the kind mention | Nov 22 08:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59051745 "Do you also feel that there has been a bit much of Jimbo on #wikipedia lately? :-) http://i.imgur.com/GHWO3.png / via @schestowitz @fontana" | Nov 22 08:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @gnufreex Hahahaha http://is.gd/hzHlo Best AV ever! | Nov 22 08:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free ClamWin virus scanner moves most of Windows into quarantine - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 35.61 KB | Nov 22 08:06 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: many people will blame ClamAV, but maybe it's trying to say something | Nov 22 08:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink: FDA grants pharma company monopoly on ancient gout drug Colchicine, price jumps from 9¢ to $4.85: http://bit.ly/bjethE | Nov 22 08:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reporting bugs in #Fedora 14 http://is.gd/hzJkK it has good tools to tell/inform Red Hat | Nov 22 08:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail - http://bit.ly/cu9jaw shameful, cowardly, stupid #israel | Nov 22 08:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Evolutionary Relationships of Wild Hominids Recapitulated by Gut Microbial Communities - http://bit.ly/9Psaw6 clever stuff #genomics | Nov 22 08:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shouldn't some Linux company sue Microsoft for wiping MBRs and making it hard to dual-boot? http://is.gd/hzJTj http://is.gd/hzJV2 | Nov 22 08:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it." --Be's CEO http://is.gd/hzK3X | Nov 22 08:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MEPs to twitter their way into new communication - http://bit.ly/9ssJHB hmm, we shall see #meps #twitter | Nov 22 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost harder, harder! | Nov 22 08:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BBC's Panorama claims Islamic schools teach antisemitism and homophobia - http://bit.ly/d66f3Q outrageous, if true #uk #schools | Nov 22 08:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In The Era Of The Connected Camera, The Point & Shoot Commits Seppuku - http://tcrn.ch/cvc06j and the smartphone adds a role #cameras | Nov 22 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Welcome to the Casino http://is.gd/hzLo8 this one located outside Nevada | Nov 22 08:34 | |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: I am not blaming ClamAV | Nov 22 08:45 |
| gnufreex | It does it's job. | Nov 22 08:45 |
| schestowitz | Too well | Nov 22 08:46 |
| schestowitz | http://timothyblee.com/2010/11/16/4227/ | Nov 22 08:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rrix werf; seems we are i hard freeze :/ i misread the schedule last week. sorry. | Nov 22 08:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo fuuuuuuuuuu, already sent maiiiiiil~~~~ | Nov 22 08:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/CajunTechie/status/6627093181890560 "I'd think that might just qualify as "anticompetitive" which is kind of what got them in trouble the first time." = > exactly. | Nov 22 08:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] It's monday... :( | Nov 22 08:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://whatwillweuse.com/2010/11/11/intro-post-for-for-fedora-planet/ | Nov 22 09:00 |
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| schestowitz | Predictions not met there yet | Nov 22 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Less than 50% for Microsoft | Nov 22 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] When I write " LibreOffice won't have the MS Ribbon", Slashdot says the opposite: http://ur1.ca/2egqw WTF? #libreoffice #docufoundation | Nov 22 09:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Harald Sitter: #ARM for !Kubuntu and #KDE http://goo.gl/qC9Rm | Nov 22 09:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wow. Joseph Tartakoff has written nothing about Microsoft for weeks. This is one who used to run the Microsoft blog. | Nov 22 09:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2010/11/11/whats-former-nbc-chief-jeff-zucker-doing-at-aol/ | Nov 22 09:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is the next #Novell -- a company that dies inside the pool of its own stagnating legacy products it could never evolve from. | Nov 22 09:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NHS.uk allowing Google, Facebook, and others to track you - http://bit.ly/b77rbR doesn't look good (via @auxbuss) #nhs #privacy | Nov 22 09:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wilted buttercup, grey skies, and geek» Blog Archive » NHS.uk allowing Google, Facebook, and others to track you .::. Size~: 29.53 KB | Nov 22 09:09 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: I'm thinking we should do a swpatents special | Nov 22 09:10 |
| ThistleWeb | since last night we only touched on it again | Nov 22 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Running The Native ZFS Linux Kernel Module, Plus Benchmarks: In August we delivered the news that Linux was soon... http://bit.ly/cWiTvY | Nov 22 09:11 | |
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| ThistleWeb | we can bring in not just MS but apple, ibm, oracle etc too | Nov 22 09:11 |
| ThistleWeb | and bilski | Nov 22 09:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #freedentity can now start! This weekend we set up shop and are preparing the celebrations. | Nov 22 09:12 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yes! | Nov 22 09:13 |
| schestowitz | software patents we didn't touch, I noticed that | Nov 22 09:13 |
| schestowitz | We could do a part 3 about patents only | Nov 22 09:13 |
| ThistleWeb | yep | Nov 22 09:13 |
| schestowitz | other companies too | Nov 22 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Sun, Oracle, Red Hat... | Nov 22 09:13 |
| schestowitz | I know their policies very well | Nov 22 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bringing Up Hardware First In Linux, Then Windows http://is.gd/hzR5E easy chores first, makes sense :-) | Nov 22 09:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MP3Tunes safe harbor challenge a legal test for cloud storage - http://bit.ly/9ZJU4k potentially big #cloudstorage #mp3 | Nov 22 09:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Bringing Up Hardware First In Linux, Then Windows .::. Size~: 18.24 KB | Nov 22 09:14 |
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| ThistleWeb | it's a huge subject, which was kinda why I didn't elaborate much in either ep about it, it would suit more time and would have easily taken over the rest of the ep | Nov 22 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @jonaso: Today we welcome @blondinrikard who will be helping us for a while, working with #fscons #ffkp #cloudberry and other things. | Nov 22 09:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Girl studies a law book. Underwrites e/tyhing. Result: unreadable mess and useless u/writing. 1or2 words per paragraph is the golden rule | Nov 22 09:16 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yeah | Nov 22 09:16 |
| schestowitz | We'll see if tim is free tonight | Nov 22 09:16 |
| ThistleWeb | maybe start with MS, then broaden it out to smartphones / buisness models / genes etc | Nov 22 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People at work are very impressed by !KDE 4.5 desktop, especially KWin effects. They just call it "Linux". | Nov 22 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vaizey insists he favours net neutrality – and agrees with Berners-Lee - http://bit.ly/b6TAnF good to see timbl acting here (via @Coadec) | Nov 22 09:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] People misses the point in reading to study: you should make your reading (and re-reading) EASIER. What a mess she's doing. | Nov 22 09:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vaizey insists he favours net neutrality – and agrees with Berners-Lee | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 93.54 KB | Nov 22 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What is GNU? [IMG] http://is.gd/hzSe5 !gnu | Nov 22 09:21 | |
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| ThistleWeb | did you get any response grom glyn? | Nov 22 09:22 |
| ThistleWeb | from* | Nov 22 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Strictly Come Surfing: Pupils teach pensioners about web http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11804850 | Nov 22 09:23 |
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| schestowitz | kids should teach MSBBC about computers :-) | Nov 22 09:23 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: he never does podcasts | Nov 22 09:23 |
| *ThistleWeb was thinking it'd be interesting to have a glyn themed news section and interview, where he picks the news subjects we cover | Nov 22 09:23 | |
| ThistleWeb | ahh | Nov 22 09:23 |
| ThistleWeb | fair enough | Nov 22 09:24 |
| schestowitz | I can't recall him ever being interviewed, either | Nov 22 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Like, in text | Nov 22 09:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "If the jury system is to survive as the system for a fair trial... the misuse of the internet by jurors must stop." http://is.gd/hzSFE | Nov 22 09:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Ooh, a new software licence and a copyright assignment requirement. Way to go, Canonical! - http://is.gd/hzSxC #fonts | Nov 22 09:26 | |
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| schestowitz | 'when I tell people here that its Linux, they're like O_O really?" - https://identi.ca/notice/59055088 | Nov 22 09:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Ushahidi developer meet up - http://bit.ly/cw3NYw if you're in Nairobi... (via @ushahidi @Lkamau) | Nov 22 09:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If I Were a Billionaire... - http://bit.ly/9NQLw7 great piece exploring what #wealth and #status might mean in the future | Nov 22 09:36 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Nov 22 09:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sold Out http://is.gd/hzUZe http://is.gd/hzUZe "Remember the heady days when ASUS eee-PC with !GNU !Linux [...] They are back." | Nov 22 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Seeks - http://bit.ly/d88jsn "free and open P2P design and application for enabling social websearch" #search #p2p | Nov 22 09:41 | |
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| schestowitz | #Microsoft ☛ Needs !GNU ☛ !Linux ☛ http://is.gd/hzUzT "Don’t re-install that other OS. Pave it over with GNU/Linux and be free of malware." | Nov 22 09:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Venezuelan Government Begins Distribution of 350,000 Laptop Computers to School Children http://is.gd/hzVoe "on [..] operating system Linux" | Nov 22 09:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Venezuelan Government Begins Distribution of 350,000 Laptop Computers to School Children | venezuelanalysis.com .::. Size~: 65.94 KB | Nov 22 09:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Sarcasm Filter Engage... Wow, thanks for assuming I'm an idiot, tom, I really fucking appreciate it. Disengage. | Nov 22 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The !gnu !linux revolution starts in places like south America, China, Russia, &Poland. Don't look at American (US) so-called 'stats' firms. | Nov 22 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Campaign Seeks to Stop Flash Ads from Breaking the Web - http://on.mash.to/9fYDHO #HTML5 is our friend #flash | Nov 22 09:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wegman exposed: Experts find “shocking” plagiarism in 2006 climate report - http://bit.ly/bY116K tiresome this needs doing #climate | Nov 22 10:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] ♻ @glynmoody New Campaign Seeks to Stop Flash Ads from Breaking the Web - http://on.mash.to/9fYDHO #HTML5 is our friend #flash | Nov 22 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Open Science unjournal - http://bit.ly/apxEag "a facilitated, participant-driven journal centered on a theme or purpose" #openscience | Nov 22 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] glad to see !5live have world renowned financial experts to discuss the Ireland bailout; Westlife | Nov 22 10:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/11/15/tensions-between-ubuntu-fedora-mount-over-new-website/ | Nov 22 10:07 |
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| schestowitz | Just Fedora? | Nov 22 10:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59056646 "I use Compiz and everyone that see's it are very impressed too. I use KDE 4.53" https://identi.ca/notice/59056718 "Thats' a good way to get their first impression of Linux" | Nov 22 10:09 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59056236 "!Poland ?" | Nov 22 10:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Robert Sajdok (ris)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-10 09:52:26 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.11 KB | Nov 22 10:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what will lembit opik be most identified with? An MP? Hubby to a Cheeky Girl? or Realty TV attention whore? | Nov 22 10:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Remember: The LO live show will take place today at 14:00 GMT/UTC 15:00 CET (new time, only this Monday!) | Nov 22 10:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Remember: The LO live show will take place today at 14:00 GMT/UTC 15:00 CET (new time, only this Monday!) !lo | Nov 22 10:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @thistleweb @schestowitz A show tonight seems unlikely due to work. Tuesdays good though (if thats ok with you guys) | Nov 22 10:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff TDF Steering Committee starts blog: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00018.html !tdf !libo | Nov 22 10:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Pidgin 2.7.6 released: http://pidgin.im/ | Nov 22 10:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I have a US DMCA on my desk to be sent to Apple. I hope for their own sake they respond promply, or I would STCA :-P | Nov 22 10:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Made the mistake of reading http://ur1.ca/2ehd3 - apparently we need to depopulate the planet so the author can eat meat! | Nov 22 10:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Vegan No More | Voracious .::. Size~: 588.92 KB | Nov 22 10:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] so what's this new spam hashtag #MM that I'm getting today? Monday Mugs? | Nov 22 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] You hear that @AnneSmedley ? Your cheesecake is famous :) -- RT @ VeganMichelleUK @RichardSmedley How cool is grandma! | Nov 22 10:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] ♺ @thb: RT @floeff TDF Steering Committee starts blog: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00018.html !tdf !libo | Nov 22 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPs' Expenses: They're At It Again - http://bit.ly/a6pl9h paging @newsbrooke #mps #expenses #transparency | Nov 22 11:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Estic jugant amb Eucalyptus núvol en el meu treball :) !debiancat http://ur1.ca/2ehiq | Nov 22 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Finnish scientific study into migration proves value of open source - http://bit.ly/bMFaaI "results in considerable savings" #fi #OOo | Nov 22 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: MPs' Expenses: They're At It Again - http://bit.ly/a6pl9h paging @newsbrooke #mps #expenses #transparency | Nov 22 11:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805704575594343622319312.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20022018-261.html http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/11/04/what-really-happened-between-hp-ex-ceo-mark-hurd-and-jodie-fisher/ | Nov 22 11:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oxford Academics: Web Not To Blame For Newspapers' Slide - http://bit.ly/bpLM2R so there #newspapers | Nov 22 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fight the Predator and more in Russian children’s books http://ur1.ca/2efln | Nov 22 11:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] "This familiar process is subverted by the production of a small goddamned fucking mamillian egg a short time later" http://ur1.ca/2ehk1 | Nov 22 11:07 | |
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| schestowitz | "Oracle Corp has hired private investigators to track down Hewlett-Packard CEO Leo Apotheker, believing testimony by the former SAP chief will help its efforts to claim about $4 billion in damages for software theft, a source with knowledge of the situation told Reuters. " http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A749Z20101108 | Nov 22 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exclusive: Oracle enlists private eyes to find HP CEO| Reuters .::. Size~: 74.61 KB | Nov 22 11:10 |
| schestowitz | @ris yes, very high adoption of !gnu ☛ !linux ☛ is often shown in Poland, by several sources | Nov 22 11:11 |
| schestowitz | "as regards Poland, hm, I don't think so. Gov is addicted to Windows. Maybe @rysiek could say more about this. but where do you take stats from? I'm curious :)" http://identi.ca/conversation/58495230#notice-59057092 | Nov 22 11:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @reality: @richslxh I dreamt I was punching Peter Mandelson once and I woke up and I was disappointed. #iamspartacus | Nov 22 11:12 | |
| schestowitz | some so-called analysts and surveys put Poland high in the charts | Nov 22 11:12 |
| schestowitz | "I am living in Poland and do not see this :) " https://identi.ca/notice/59057239 | Nov 22 11:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Robert Sajdok (ris)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-10 10:18:09 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.18 KB | Nov 22 11:14 |
| schestowitz | Odd... | Nov 22 11:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Open core isn't about FOSS. It's proprietary software's evil twin in a mask." -- Pamela Jones, #Groklaw http://is.gd/hA9yb #opencore #pr | Nov 22 11:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] LUCERO : The Open University + JISC Open Data; mouthwatering - http://bit.ly/90EPns er, quite #opendata #ou | Nov 22 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Oracle's strong intellectual property was also a draw. "It is the IP that truly attracted me," he said.' -Hurd, #SCOracle | Nov 22 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] More trouble on the #LXC front on !Gentoo :| http://is.gd/hAckg | Nov 22 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK E-petitions website shelved - http://bit.ly/d3QAKP symbolic or what? (via @PoliceStateUK) #openness | Nov 22 11:36 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/58498812#notice-59059833 | Nov 22 11:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikileaks Announces Release 7x the Size of the Iraq War Logs - http://on.mash.to/9vlXoo something for the Pentagon's Xmas stocking | Nov 22 11:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] new to me, but very neat http://movecommons.org/ declarative terms for NGO & Org., similar to #CC licences. | Nov 22 11:41 | |
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| schestowitz | http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-November/145273.html | Nov 22 11:49 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59060489 "Polish NGOs also seem to start migrating. >50% of internet users here use Mozilla Firefox alone. so not bad for a start ;)" https://identi.ca/notice/59060403 "well, I *do* think so. 90% of local self-gov'ts use FLOSS one way or the other (servers mainly, a lot of OOo, too)" | Nov 22 11:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek Polish NGOs also seem to start migrating. >50% of internet users here use Mozilla Firefox alone. so not bad for a start ;) | Nov 22 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek well, I *do* think so. 90% of local self-gov'ts use FLOSS one way or the other (servers mainly, a lot of OOo, too) | Nov 22 11:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A typical US Mortgage analysed. The simple reality. Note: every edge generates money for someone, I guess. http://is.gd/hAeJ4 | Nov 22 11:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Firefox 4.0 For Linux Finally Gets A Unified Menu http://bit.ly/9GARWy | Nov 22 11:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I've always been an hyper-efficient learner, because I'm lazy and get bored easily. So I've learned efficient learning strategy | Nov 22 11:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @robmyers @clacke Plus, read the license closely: does not grant any right to make private modifications #fail | Nov 22 12:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer A typical US Mortgage analysed. The simple reality. Note: every edge generates money for someone, I guess. http://is.gd/hAeJ4 | Nov 22 12:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm Hah! Every year I *mean* to have one but every year I *procrastinate* in making one until too late... | Nov 22 12:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jauchzet: Bach's Organ Music Free Online - http://bit.ly/9ri4po all of it #bach #organ #free | Nov 22 12:16 | |
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| schestowitz | About Ubuntu Font Licence | Nov 22 12:24 |
| schestowitz | "[PJ: Huh? I see several issues. First, you may or may not want to hand over your work to Canonical to be used for "highly commercial work in new directions", depending on how they define all that the phrase could mean; second, you must give over trademark rights which may or may not work for you, depending on what you are contributing; and this interim license says the fonts can't be released under any other license but this one. | Nov 22 12:24 |
| schestowitz | There may be other issues in that I only quickly glanced at it. The primary problem is that it's so complex, I can't even understand what it's saying. If anyone else can, do tell.] - Ubuntu Font License FAQ" | Nov 22 12:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @glynmoody: Jauchzet: Bach's Organ Music Free Online - http://bit.ly/9ri4po all of it #bach #organ #free <pity only on mp3 and AAC | Nov 22 12:31 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2010/11/12/prominent-attorney-comisky-dies.html | Nov 22 12:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @caostheory: Brian Proffitt notes that community and crowdsourcing are not the same thing. http://bit.ly/ak3FJ8 | Sayin that for years too | Nov 22 12:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] All-Seeing Airport Scanners Sparking Litigation and Protests http://is.gd/hAl0o #tsa | Nov 22 12:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jmcesteves RT @ifikra: UK libel campaign groups publish new guide for bloggers "Bloggers and Libel Law" http://is.gd/hAfB8 (pdf) | Nov 22 12:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Groklaw has spent a *lot* of time/space this month looking at Oracle/SAP. Isn't that just another dispute between proprietary problems? | Nov 22 12:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @fontana @robmyers @clacke Plus, read the license closely: does not grant any right to make private modifications #fail | Nov 22 12:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #iceweasel acting up. gonna install #firefox. #debian testing | Nov 22 12:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lubuntu/@lubuntu] Lubuntu Screencast: MtPaint create wallpaper http://tinyurl.com/385vmm2 | Nov 22 12:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to The Pogues & Kirsty McColl - Fairytale of New York. Always reminds me of Xmas sing-songs in England :'( *sniff* | Nov 22 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[debian/@debian] Brief Updates: Firebird 3, Iceweasel 4.0 beta, google code-in and DPL interview - #ndn - http://bit.ly/9FAwuo | Nov 22 12:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] might as well run #chromium. | Nov 22 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #Firefox 4 Beta 7 – how it should look on Linux http://goo.gl/vkCrO | Nov 22 12:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @techmeerkat: "Putting paid to bribery": interesting piece on how lawyers should look at their own prac... http://ur1.ca/2eiaw | Nov 22 12:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a parody of "bring out your dead" from Monty Python, about the MS statement that Linux is dead "ere, he says he's not dead" | Nov 22 12:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Liebe #Hansenet bzw #Alice - 10 Tage und noch immer kein funktionierendes UMTS mit Quickstart ist #fail | Nov 22 12:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: Rethinking video editing with #Novacut http://goo.gl/zpZH4 | Nov 22 12:59 | |
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| schestowitz | Ouch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_5MY0BZn3Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neiR7uZAXD4 | Nov 22 13:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links: Venezuelan Government Distributes Another 350,000 GNU/Linux Laptop, Firefox 4.0 For GNU/Linux Gets Unified Menu http://is.gd/hApfM | Nov 22 13:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening !20lbsounds on Youtube - Jimmy Carter by !rr's @methoddan http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=2kmeR5SdyHU&gl=US | Nov 22 13:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Worst gadget ever?a $99 Android tablet, The Maylong M150 tablet, available at Walgreens (Ars): http://bit.ly/aoxumH | Nov 22 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Note: Intel classmates, not OLPC unfortunately. | Nov 22 13:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The rights and wrongs of digital books http://bbc.in/ctBDiG Interesting as ever from Bill Thompson | Nov 22 13:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from refinishing and upgrading my guitar, now doing prep for !LinuxOutlaws later! | Nov 22 13:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe MS should re-release the !KIN as a limited edition to flog off the rest of the gear, since nobody else wants them #msboosters | Nov 22 13:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer yeah :-( at least MeeGo gets some AMD ATM | Nov 22 13:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ed Miliband wanting to rebuild Labour? lemmie guess, another PR coat of paint = Newer Labour, same shit, new name | Nov 22 13:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @thornet Yay, British Library datasets under CC0 in pretty RDF/XML: http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/datafree.html | Nov 22 13:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @glynmoody UK E-petitions website shelved - http://bit.ly/d3QAKP symbolic or what? (via @PoliceStateUK) #openness | Nov 22 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] RT @glynmoody LUCERO : The Open University + JISC Open Data; mouthwatering - http://bit.ly/90EPns er, quite #opendata #ou | Nov 22 13:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: strtok: http://bit.ly/9ZUxI4 | Nov 22 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz i wouldn't have seen video but for you & it's priceless connecting !BillC32 and Environmental issues http://ur1.ca/2ecir | Nov 22 13:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz this is only my second !NaNoWriMo but i quite understand the #procrastination defense | Nov 22 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd love to try this procrastination malarkey but I'm not sure I can be bothered | Nov 22 13:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Copyright owners better off in a regime that allows downloading from illegal sources" - http://bit.ly/aVAJ68 o'reilly? #copyright #nl | Nov 22 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: note, in Portugal those classmates are being bought with unlawful procurement that demands Windows 7 and MS Office. | Nov 22 13:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Pulitzer Prize-Winning Novelist Tells the Tale of the World’s First Computer | Magazine http://ur1.ca/2eirl | Nov 22 13:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz in Portugal those classmates are being bought with unlawful procurement that demands Windows 7 and MS Office. via @ruiseabra | Nov 22 13:59 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Nov 22 14:07 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | Nov 22 14:07 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | Nov 22 14:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oops. Novell sold? | Nov 22 14:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems MSFT spinoff buys Novell "IPR", rest goes to attachmate. | Nov 22 14:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody "Copyright owners better off in a regime that allows downloading from illegal sources" - http://bit.ly/aVAJ68 o'reilly? #c ... | Nov 22 14:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Link? | Nov 22 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz - check CPTN holdings - they will buy certain IP assets acc to http://is.gd/hAyy6 | Nov 22 14:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Seems MSFT spinoff buys Novell "IPR", rest goes to attachmate. | Nov 22 14:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why ACTA is a Doomed - http://bit.ly/dsL5Rp because the more it strengthens copyright, the more it weakens it #acta | Nov 22 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin What would happen if thousands of citizens shed clothes at TSA checkpoint, simultaneously, different airports>*great* Opt Out | Nov 22 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Attachmate Corporation to Acquire Novell - http://bit.ly/9GGjLB hmm, could be interesting (via @caostheory) #novell #linux | Nov 22 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: #freedentity sounds interesting! Let us know more! | Nov 22 14:12 | |
| schestowitz | :TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: There is a complaint in EU Commission but apparently nothing is going on. Have published analysis months ago. | Nov 22 14:14 |
| schestowitz | PING :card.freenode.net | Nov 22 14:14 |
| schestowitz | :TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[carlopiana/@carlopiana] People are still confused about "GPL compatibility", don't get it's an inboud compatibility. Outbound, there is quasi no #GPL #compatibility | Nov 22 14:14 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Telling the open source story http://bit.ly/aJiKSL #wikipedia #participation #community | Nov 22 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sixgun/@sixgun] Linux Outlaws is live with the recording of another episode now! Join us: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live (Icecast only today) | Nov 22 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell is over | Nov 22 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] My dear accountant, next time, I'd like to know beforehand if I have to pay another €1500, not 8 DAYS BEFORE EXPIRATION… | Nov 22 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @tuxdotking The difference between iPhone and !Android : http://www.techmagnews.com/wp-content/uploads/images/iPhone_vs_Android_web_c ... | Nov 22 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @caostheory: Attachmate to acquire Novell for $2.2bn. http://bit.ly/cUW4lD < not sure it's good news. | Nov 22 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Linux Outlaws is live with the recording of another episode now! Join us: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live (Icecast only today) | Nov 22 14:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Seems MSFT spinoff buys Novell "IPR", rest goes to attachmate. >I'll do special coverage today of NOVL | Nov 22 14:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Linux Outlaws is live with the recording of another episode now! Join us: http://linuxoutlaws.com/live (Icecast only today) | Nov 22 14:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Novell sold to Attachmate http://lwn.net/Articles/416567/rss | Nov 22 14:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Novell: "sale of certain intellectual property assets to consortium of technology cos organized by Microsoft" - not good (via @jdub) | Nov 22 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/109868319.html | Nov 22 14:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So now MSFT own the copyright of UNIX? Interesting ... http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/109868319.html | Nov 22 14:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @jwildeboer: So now MSFT own the copyright of UNIX? Interesting ... http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/109868319.html | Nov 22 14:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @richslxh please don’t send such things to html5 group, it is not relevant. | Nov 22 14:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer So now MSFT own the copyright of UNIX? Interesting ... http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/109868319.html | Nov 22 14:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung Sells 600,000 Galaxy Tab Devices At Launch - http://bit.ly/b8n5Lx sign of things to come? #android #tablets | Nov 22 14:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @jwildeboer Just got home and now this awkward news? Have to read up what this actually means... | Nov 22 14:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer So now MSFT own the copyright of UNIX? Interesting ... http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/109868319.html | Nov 22 14:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Ok, so I broke down and turned the heater on! | Nov 22 14:31 | |
| cubezzz | ok, I know Microsoft has done a lot of bad things but "Hiring Munchkins to discredit competing products"? | Nov 22 14:31 |
| oiaohm | There is two parts of that deal. | Nov 22 14:31 |
| oiaohm | CPTN Holdings that is basically microsoft is taking particular assets from novell. | Nov 22 14:32 |
| oiaohm | And Attachmate taking the rest. | Nov 22 14:32 |
| oiaohm | Wonder if MS is aquiring Mono. | Nov 22 14:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Check out UltraEdit! apt:uex | Nov 22 14:32 | |
| MinceR | why would they do that? | Nov 22 14:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | because its, sadly, better than their own .net | Nov 22 14:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | its kind of depressing really | Nov 22 14:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @carlopiana not sure whether I agree or disagree because I'm not sure what you mean (except I agree many are confused) :) | Nov 22 14:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Wow UltraEdit is available on Ubuntu Software Center, I haven't used that since my early Win XP days! | Nov 22 14:36 | |
| oiaohm | attachmate.com is kinda dosed out of existance at moment. | Nov 22 14:36 |
| MinceR | since when did m$ care about what's better? | Nov 22 14:36 |
| oiaohm | So I cannot read the products they make to see how the merge helps them. | Nov 22 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Or if attachmate would be likely to just discontune mono | Nov 22 14:36 |
| oiaohm | No mono no hope for ms of .net being a golden egg long term. | Nov 22 14:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I do note the "consortium led by MS" part, aka the PR chaff they can use to deflect any criticism in legal cases | Nov 22 14:37 | |
| MinceR | well, if they're really, really desperate, they might want to kill mono right now to get the mono-addicted developers as winblows-only developers | Nov 22 14:38 |
| oiaohm | Dangous move. | Nov 22 14:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 22 14:39 |
| oiaohm | Might force a lot of developers to vala and make that stronger. | Nov 22 14:39 |
| MinceR | it would also waste their carefully set-up trap | Nov 22 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Dimineață, la ȘtirilePROTV: computerele sunt amenințate grav de viruși! Trimis un protest oficial: computerele WINDOWS sunt amenințate #fail | Nov 22 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Samsung Sells 600,000 Galaxy Tab Devices At Launch - http://bit.ly/b8n5Lx sign of things to come? #android #tablets | Nov 22 14:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Today's ProTV morning news: computers are threatened by viruses! I've sent an official protest: WINDOWS computers are threatened #fail #ms | Nov 22 14:41 | |
| abeNd-org | last i knew attachmate made terminal emulator programs | Nov 22 14:42 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachmate Thank god for wikipedia. | Nov 22 14:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Samsung Sells 600,000 Galaxy Tab Devices At Launch - http://bit.ly/b8n5Lx sign of things to come? #android #tablets | Nov 22 14:42 | |
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| oiaohm | Ok so attachmate wants SUSE. | Nov 22 14:43 |
| oiaohm | They don't say what the second department made up of all of Novell will be. | Nov 22 14:43 |
| oiaohm | So there is a high chance they might have shown .net the door. | Nov 22 14:43 |
| abeNd-org | do you know what this CPTN Holdings LLC is picking up? | Nov 22 14:43 |
| oiaohm | So forcing MS to step in and aquire it. | Nov 22 14:43 |
| oiaohm | CPTN Holdings is another name for Microsoft. abeNd-org | Nov 22 14:44 |
| abeNd-org | heh | Nov 22 14:45 |
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| oiaohm | CPTN Holdings, a Microsoft (MSFT) led consortium | Nov 22 14:45 |
| abeNd-org | yea, im seeing that on some of the stock sites | Nov 22 14:45 |
| MinceR | so it's a puppet set up to pretend that the entity distributing mono doesn't own the .net patents. | Nov 22 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Yes CPTN Holding is a consortium that is basically 100 percent at the control of Microsoft | Nov 22 14:46 |
| abeNd-org | what would CPTN, err, MS want with anything per novell, other than its customer base | Nov 22 14:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @fontana I'm just reminding in #140chars what the GPL FAQ say about combining wks u/ different licenses & GPL. Nothing creative or specific | Nov 22 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @glynmoody rather like "the more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems slip though your fingers" | Nov 22 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: How #Ubuntu builds up on #Debian http://bit.ly/9qoo5h | Nov 22 14:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !opensuse | Novell ‘Agrees to be Acquired by Attachmate’, sells intellectual property to Microsoft-backed group http://ping.fm/uHtsS | Nov 22 14:46 | |
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| MinceR | m$ does what m$ always does: they destroy. | Nov 22 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Most of Novell current paying customer base is SUSE. abeNd-org | Nov 22 14:46 |
| oiaohm | And that is what attachmate is taking. | Nov 22 14:46 |
| ThistleWeb | I'd imagine if MS went in direct, they, may have to spend money having anti-competition questions disappear | Nov 22 14:47 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: Not sure, I read somewhere that Novel | Nov 22 14:47 |
| gnufreex | is making more money | Nov 22 14:47 |
| abeNd-org | oia yea, i know, i deal with a great deal of novell customers still | Nov 22 14:47 |
| gnufreex | from RHEL | Nov 22 14:47 |
| gnufreex | cloning | Nov 22 14:47 |
| abeNd-org | that, groupwise & zenworks | Nov 22 14:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You can say what you like about OMG Ubuntu, but they are really fast off the mark with news. They must have a lot of eyes :) | Nov 22 14:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Venezuelan Government Begins Distribution of 350,000 Laptop Computers to School Children http://is.gd/hzVoe "on [..] operating system Linux" | Nov 22 14:47 | |
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| ThistleWeb | by doing it as part of a group they can still say "hey look we don't own it, no anti trust issues to see, move along" | Nov 22 14:48 |
| gnufreex | I meant more than from SuSE. | Nov 22 14:48 |
| oiaohm | Really I would be worried if I am Novell staff. | Nov 22 14:48 |
| oiaohm | attachmate has basically stated by the time they are done pruing there will only be 2 departments of Novell left | Nov 22 14:48 |
| oiaohm | 1 being SUSE | Nov 22 14:49 |
| oiaohm | They have not said what the other will be. | Nov 22 14:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Your friendly Monday morning-ish voting reminder" by dagny87 http://ping.fm/PNgNK | Nov 22 14:49 | |
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| abeNd-org | oiahm im guessing groupwise or zenworks, unless thats what ms is buying to end the products | Nov 22 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Same here. | Nov 22 14:51 |
| oiaohm | Cut off all novell not profitable lines. | Nov 22 14:51 |
| oiaohm | And that would explain MS steping up with a holding company. | Nov 22 14:51 |
| abeNd-org | netware is gone for sure, but novell themselves dropped that years ago | Nov 22 14:51 |
| oiaohm | netware is in suse | Nov 22 14:51 |
| oiaohm | These days. | Nov 22 14:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[copiesofcopies/@copiesofcopies] Asian pears don't bruise, they hemorrhage. | Nov 22 14:52 | |
| abeNd-org | zenworks & groupwise are still profitable & relevant in this day & age, not everyone is completely outlook obsessed, i know plenty of companies running zenworks with AD instead of sccm, and groupwise9 (if it will be around any longer) will run directory agnostic as well | Nov 22 14:53 |
| gnufreex | It is good that it wasn't VMware (who acquired Novell) | Nov 22 14:53 |
| abeNd-org | it will be a bummer to see it go, i know a bunch of my customers will probably scramble to want to migrate to microsoft asap | Nov 22 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol brilliant, the famous "ease of use" Microsoft keep bleating on about http://bit.ly/c7cKlV | Nov 22 14:54 | |
| oiaohm | The transaction is currently expected to close in the first quarter of 2011 and is subject to customary closing conditions including antitrust clearance, Novell stockholder approval and certain other regulatory approvals and closing conditions. The transaction is also conditioned upon the concurrent closing of Novell's planned sale of certain intellectual property assets to CPTN Holdings LLC. | Nov 22 14:54 |
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| oiaohm | That is interesting. | Nov 22 14:54 |
| abeNd-org | since none of them will see anything else as a viable alternative | Nov 22 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Basically if CPTN Holdings deal falls threw so does the full sale. | Nov 22 14:54 |
| abeNd-org | yea, i read that earlier in the press release, which was why i was wondering just what is on cptn's plate | Nov 22 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Basically what does not Attachmate not want. | Nov 22 14:56 |
| abeNd-org | yes, i figured that, but just what is it? | Nov 22 14:56 |
| oiaohm | $450M cash In a 2.2 billion dollar deal is not much. | Nov 22 14:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 45, 46 - 2010) http://bit.ly/cw77BR | Nov 22 14:57 | |
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| gnufreex | Hmm press release says it is definitive deal, but here it says bidding war http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iU93fv5a9F2zIjJpc53-Q5fLtMUA?docId=317a1f4f1f384aaf9553fc6209f56cf2 | Nov 22 14:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] Schestowitz: | Nov 22 14:59 | |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: that guy is a day behind | Nov 22 15:00 |
| gnufreex | So they are selling Novell patents to Microsoft led consortium. Nothing good from Novell. | Nov 22 15:01 |
| oiaohm | It says interlect property | Nov 22 15:01 |
| oiaohm | That can be patents or software | Nov 22 15:01 |
| abeNd-org | too bad no one says just what though | Nov 22 15:01 |
| MinceR | or both | Nov 22 15:01 |
| oiaohm | We will find out soon enough. | Nov 22 15:02 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: It can be copyrights, trademarks or patents. | Nov 22 15:02 |
| gnufreex | But they blur it even more | Nov 22 15:02 |
| gnufreex | so it can be entire product too. | Nov 22 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Even staff if they want to push the limit. gnufreex | Nov 22 15:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harvalah/@harvalah] Schestowitz: Where are you? I get no replies on identi.ca or the Wiki and you forbid e-mails. So what's up? | Nov 22 15:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @tilladam First experimental version of Kontact Touch for MeeGo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsWnfny61oI !kde !kolab !kontact !qml ... | Nov 22 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Now I'm in #paranoid mode WRT Novell sale. Going to read what the well informed @maryjofoley can tell us http://ur1.ca/2ej9h | Nov 22 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] An "open app store" is actually a "broken package manager". Technically *and* economically. | Nov 22 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FFII expression of concerns with ACTA - http://bit.ly/b49LUX I can just hear the reply: "blah-blah-blah not listening...." #acta #eu | Nov 22 15:06 | |
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| abeNd-org | who is going to be taking the OES (open enterprise server, edirectory, ifolder, iprint, etc) side of the product i wonder | Nov 22 15:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @bengoldacre RT @Preiskel: BREAKING - @pauljchambers to challenge #TwitterJokeTrial conviction at the High Court http://bit.ly/d3Vxa4 | Nov 22 15:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webupd8: Firefox 4.0 For Linux Finally Gets A Unified Menu http://bit.ly/9GARWy | Nov 22 15:11 | |
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| schestowitz | many people want to check stuff in "boycott novell" at the moment | Nov 22 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Novell Agrees to be Acquired by Attachmate Corporation http://goo.gl/my56n | Nov 22 15:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Novell's Finally Sold: Going To Attachmate & Microsoft: While for a while it looked like Novell was going to be ... http://bit.ly/bq1PFB | Nov 22 15:14 | |
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| abeNd-org | ok, enough "tech drama", back to work | Nov 22 15:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: @xenijardin: What if thousands of citizens shed clothes at TSA checkpoint, simultaneously, different airports|cheekpoint? | Nov 22 15:17 | |
| abeNd-org | heh, mass nekkid people, that would be scary | Nov 22 15:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | mass naked child eve-- oh wait | Nov 22 15:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | this isnt bad anime sub day | Nov 22 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #Novell ‘agrees to be Acquired by Attachmate’ for $2.2 Billion http://goo.gl/SpOk5 | Nov 22 15:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Coalition shelves plans to protect public sector whistleblowers - http://bit.ly/a6JIbq add it to the list #whistleblowers | Nov 22 15:19 | |
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| abeNd-org | yea, you know its not going to be "fit & hot" people, its going to be "lives in mom's basement & watches starwars every day" | Nov 22 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @johndrinkwater Of course it's relevant! People can use http://youtube.com/html5 beta instead of flash. !html5 will hopefully replace flash. | Nov 22 15:21 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/whats-microsofts-role-in-the-novell-attachmate-deal/8041 | Nov 22 15:23 |
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| Diablo-D3 | holy fucking shit | Nov 22 15:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] !watching Fairy Tail 55 !anime | Nov 22 15:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Holy fucking shit, #Microsoft bought Mono, doesn't even hide they hate FOSS and wish to destroy it http://ur1.ca/2ej9h | Nov 22 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @glynmoody so, MSFT wanted NOVL's assets but wouldn't buy them because of GPLv2 trick and GPLv3 fix, so it formed CPTN to buy them | Nov 22 15:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @glynmoody Galaxy Tab on sale in Spain for only 199€ http://www.vodafone.es/particulares/servicios/internet/tabletpc/?did=232588667-56458690 | Nov 22 15:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Samsung Galaxy !android tab available in Spain for €199, that's $272 http://ur1.ca/2ejfr | Nov 22 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @lxoliva yes, certainly looking that way | Nov 22 15:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz let's use #AttachMSFT as Hashtag for the Novell/Attachmate/CPTN/MSFT deal ;-) | Nov 22 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @lxoliva MSFT can't buy Novell because it will never pass a merger regulation proc. See the mess Oracle was in with Sun, multiply by 10 | Nov 22 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz Mission Accomplished - Novell Decommissioned http://is.gd/hALiz #unix #sco #swpats #novell #microsoft !linux | Nov 22 15:36 | |
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| cubezzz | umm | Nov 22 15:36 |
| cubezzz | that's incredibly bad news | Nov 22 15:36 |
| cubezzz | but we'll always have GNU | Nov 22 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lxoliva @glynmoody so, MSFT wanted NOVL's assets but wouldn't buy them because of GPLv2 trick and GPLv3 fix, so it formed CPTN to bu ... | Nov 22 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] President Obama, After Traveling With Naked Scanner CEO, Defends Naked Scans - http://bit.ly/d7xVW4 bare-faced cheek, no? | Nov 22 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Mondays are an eevil eevil thing. | Nov 22 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @lxoliva but yes, speculation about CPTN being proxy is justified, esp. because of the silence curtain put over its constituency | Nov 22 15:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer @schestowitz let's use #AttachMSFT as Hashtag for the Novell/Attachmate/CPTN/MSFT deal ;-) | Nov 22 15:39 | |
| MinceR | i bet obama didn't have to subject himself to scanning | Nov 22 15:39 |
| abeNd-org | mincer that would be racist if he had to submit to it | Nov 22 15:39 |
| MinceR | right | Nov 22 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Boycott Novell Becomes Similar to Boycott Microsoft http://is.gd/hAOuy #novell #microsoft #swpats #redhat !techrights | Nov 22 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Funny note: Current price for NOVL is only .35$ per share more as what Elliott offered. That ofer was inadequate to NOVL. #AttachMSFT | Nov 22 15:41 | |
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| MinceR | actually the article says he didn't have to be scanned, of course | Nov 22 15:41 |
| MinceR | what a fucking hypocrite | Nov 22 15:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Or if attachmate would be likely to just discontune mono.No mono no hope for ms of .net being a golden egg long term." oiaohm@ #techrights | Nov 22 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] More strangeness in #AttachMSFT "But as part of the deal [...], Elliott is to become an equity shareholder in Attachmate" http://is.gd/hAOV2 | Nov 22 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer @schestowitz let's use #AttachMSFT as Hashtag for the Novell/Attachmate/CPTN/MSFT deal ;-) | Nov 22 15:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz "Or if attachmate would be likely to just discontune mono.No mono no hope for ms of .net being a golden egg long term." ... | Nov 22 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer More strangeness in #AttachMSFT "But as part of the deal [...], Elliott is to become an equity shareholder in Attachmate" ... | Nov 22 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @jwildeboer : WTF? Now that's becoming very, er, interesting. | Nov 22 15:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♺ @techmeerkat: Data Security And Privacy Laws Missing In India http://bit.ly/9giuhP #privacy #law #databreach | Nov 22 15:46 | |
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| abeNd-org | im checking with my novl developer partners to see if they have any additional info, some were dealing with novl VPs as late as friday | Nov 22 15:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Announcing Ushahidi 2.0 (Luanda) - http://bit.ly/bcA1D5 lots of interesting new features, including plugins #ushahidi | Nov 22 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] @jwildeboer Q: Does #AttachMSFT count as acquisition or corporate restructuring? After all, MSFT did call shots at Novell before... ;) | Nov 22 15:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Announcing Ushahidi 2.0 (Luanda) - http://bit.ly/bcA1D5 lots of interesting new features, including plugins #ushahidi | Nov 22 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "CPTN Holdings is another name for Microsoft. [...] CPTN Holdings, a Microsoft (MSFT) led consortium" -oiaohm #AttachMSFT #proxy #antitrust | Nov 22 15:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @schestowitz my sarcasm detectors may be broken, but how's that good at all? | Nov 22 15:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @greve @jwildeboer Q: Does #AttachMSFT count as acquisition or corporate restructuring? After all, MSFT did call shots at Novell befo ... | Nov 22 15:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59071787 "my sarcasm detectors may be broken, but how's that good at all?" | Nov 22 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | It's not good at all, it just shows that I was right all along. | Nov 22 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Another !LO in the can. Now on to other things... | Nov 22 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Goodbye, sick man of #opensource. | Nov 22 15:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rrix It's not good at all, it just shows that I was right all along. | Nov 22 15:52 | |
| abeNd-org | so whats the worst that could happen, microsoft owns unix? | Nov 22 15:52 |
| abeNd-org | forces everyone to pay to use linux or migrate to microsoft products? | Nov 22 15:54 |
| MinceR | afaik they can't do that anymore | Nov 22 15:54 |
| abeNd-org | just by the mere fact of novell being sold off, that im sure will cause a good chunk of people on novell products to migrate to ms | Nov 22 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] what's the TSA screening proc. for pets? can I fly with one? do they have to make an "enhanced pat-down" to my dog? :D #wontfly | Nov 22 15:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In 2006 Microsoft paid Novell over $300M to put it in a sack. Now it pays $450M to take everything Novell has which Microsoft wants. #swpats | Nov 22 15:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does #antitrust scrutiny have the ability to take proxies into account? #AttachMSFT | Nov 22 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah I sent you many E-mails, received none from you, and I updated the wiki too | Nov 22 16:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harvalah dump your ISP for deleting E-mails that are supposed to be delivered. The ISP deserves to go bankrupt. | Nov 22 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz evidently another successful hack of the legal system. #antitrust #microsoft #novell #attachmsft | Nov 22 16:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz evidently another successful hack of the legal system. #antitrust #microsoft #novell #attachmsft | Nov 22 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] "Open source theory-that many eyes see all bugs-is coming to pass in unexpected places." Incl. the Cooks Source madness. http://ow.ly/3dFvj | Nov 22 16:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Novell acquired by a company no-one has heard of - http://is.gd/hASKM #novell | Nov 22 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] How open access to research benefits us all http://bit.ly/bNPXID #openDOAR | Nov 22 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is like another SCO zombie, resorting to another plot/crime every time it dies. #swpats | Nov 22 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] President Obama, After Traveling With Naked Scanner CEO, Defends Naked Scans http://is.gd/hATsM #tsa #cronyism | Nov 22 16:09 | |
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| schestowitz | wb, dyfet | Nov 22 16:12 |
| dyfet | thanks | Nov 22 16:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] am I missing something or do these links actually not have a story? http://bit.ly/a6SMVi | Nov 22 16:14 | |
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| cubezzz | "if Microsoft fists came out of monitors and started punching people, they would not leave" | Nov 22 16:15 |
| cubezzz | lol | Nov 22 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Between the obama news http://is.gd/hATsM and Novell , it's time to take a quick break | Nov 22 16:15 |
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| cubezzz | people are stubborn though | Nov 22 16:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon don't miss the main news, Microsoft gets the #swpats - and people chided us for warning about Novell, eh? Novell applied for them | Nov 22 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF Discusses the Future of Internet #Privacy at UN Internet Governance Forum https://eff.org/r.u9x #IGF10 | Nov 22 16:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] New Benchmarks Of OpenSolaris, BSD & Linux: Earlier today we put out benchmarks of ZFS on Linux via a native ker... http://bit.ly/cGZ1mq | Nov 22 16:16 | |
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| cubezzz | but yeah, people like myself with older machines will never use windows 7 | Nov 22 16:17 |
| cubezzz | so indeed, there's a kind of 'beachhead' of older GNU/Linux people using older hardware | Nov 22 16:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | windows 7 is surprisingly not nearly as shitty as you'd think it should be | Nov 22 16:18 |
| dyfet | Just reading about novell...say what??! not truly surprised though... | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wish microsoft would, say, port the desktop to linux | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | because it looks great | Nov 22 16:19 |
| cubezzz | there is reactos | Nov 22 16:19 |
| MinceR | vista7 is unsurprisingly a lot shittier than many people claim it to be | Nov 22 16:19 |
| MinceR | i've seen it | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: the actual OS you mean? | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | sure | Nov 22 16:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The British National Bibliography – wow! Try it out - http://bit.ly/9Frrm5 @petermurrayrust gets excited, again, justifiably #opendata | Nov 22 16:19 | |
| Diablo-D3 | but the UI experience is actually quite nice | Nov 22 16:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz President Obama, After Traveling With Naked Scanner CEO, Defends Naked Scans http://is.gd/hATsM #tsa #cronyism | Nov 22 16:19 | |
| MinceR | yes, the actual "OS" | Nov 22 16:19 |
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| cubezzz | oh people did hate vista, no question | Nov 22 16:19 |
| MinceR | for one thing, it was slow as fuck | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have a fast computer | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | it even makes 7 fast | Nov 22 16:19 |
| cubezzz | but I'm not going to start running win7 on my P3's | Nov 22 16:19 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen an OS run that slow before | Nov 22 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: what, seriously? | Nov 22 16:20 |
| abeNd-org | yea, none of my customers went to vista | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | 7 is faster than vista | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Nov 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | seriously | Nov 22 16:20 |
| abeNd-org | but they are pushing to move to 7 | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | vista IS a pile of shit | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a total fucking pile of shit | Nov 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | and the guy who uses it daily said that sometimes the GUI hangs for a few seconds | Nov 22 16:20 |
| abeNd-org | vista/winme, same thing, different year :) | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | abeNd-org: EXACTLY | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I was about to say that | Nov 22 16:20 |
| gnufreex | Vista 7 is a memory hog | Nov 22 16:20 |
| gnufreex | It uses 2GB on idle | Nov 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | strangely, even the vista i used for a few minutes wasn't that slow | Nov 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | then again, that one had minimal load | Nov 22 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have 8 gigs of memory | Nov 22 16:20 |
| MinceR | and perhaps no aero | Nov 22 16:20 |
| gnufreex | I have 8GB too | Nov 22 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Carbon emissions set to be highest in history - http://ind.pn/bx21Sr no need to panic - oh, well, come to think of it... #climatechange | Nov 22 16:21 | |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't run a closed source OS | Nov 22 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carbon emissions set to be highest in history - Climate Change, Environment - The Independent .::. Size~: 141 KB | Nov 22 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Nov 22 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | the real problem is | Nov 22 16:21 |
| abeNd-org | yea, with aero turned off, & interface looking like windows2000, win7 is pretty peppy | Nov 22 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | 7 looks great | Nov 22 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | abeNd-org: no, you can turn the win2k theme back on | Nov 22 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats seperate from aero being on/off | Nov 22 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | you have aero theme, non-aero theme, win2k theme, and... thank God, no XP theme. | Nov 22 16:22 |
| gnufreex | Windows fanboys say that it hogs memory because it have some supper feature... supestrech or something | Nov 22 16:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | durfa hurf fischer price | Nov 22 16:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: supper you say? | Nov 22 16:22 |
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| cubezzz | can you run windows 7 in text mode, ho ho ho | Nov 22 16:22 |
| MinceR | yum | Nov 22 16:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | I may marry it | Nov 22 16:22 |
| gnufreex | Me thinks superstrech is just a funny name for memory leak. | Nov 22 16:22 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: sure. if the installer BSoDs, for example. | Nov 22 16:22 |
| MinceR | that BSoD is in text mode, isn't it? :> | Nov 22 16:22 |
| gnufreex | They don't know how to fix memory leak, so they call it a feature. | Nov 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | or just have it hang while booting | Nov 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | before it gets to switch to graphics mode | Nov 22 16:23 |
| cubezzz | so I suppose windows 7 can still BSOD? | Nov 22 16:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | gnufreex: "if it does it once, its a bug.... if it does it twice, its a feature... if it does it three times its a design philosophy" | Nov 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | of course it can | Nov 22 16:23 |
| cubezzz | haven't really tried it much | Nov 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | though it probably tries to hide it with a reboot | Nov 22 16:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | I havent seen a bsod on windows in years | Nov 22 16:23 |
| MinceR | like xp does by default | Nov 22 16:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | then again | Nov 22 16:24 |
| cubezzz | my customers tell me about BSOD still | Nov 22 16:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | I havent used windows for more than a few minutes at a time for years | Nov 22 16:24 |
| gnufreex | I have seen Vista 7 bsods. | Nov 22 16:24 |
| cubezzz | but they mostly run XP | Nov 22 16:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What will happen with #Mono after #AttachMSFT? | Nov 22 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @jonobacon #AttachMSFT has Elliott (that hedgefund that bidded for NOVL in february) as investor. Makes sense now? ;-) | Nov 22 16:24 | |
| cubezzz | but they get the dual boot option on every laptop I sell | Nov 22 16:24 |
| gnufreex | Diablo-D3: it does it all the time... so it is broken by design. | Nov 22 16:25 |
| cubezzz | when I show them AROS or Haiku they just nod and smile | Nov 22 16:25 |
| gnufreex | :-/ | Nov 22 16:25 |
| cubezzz | it's like it's from another planet | Nov 22 16:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Nov 22 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New Benchmarks Of OpenSolaris, BSD & Linux at Phoronix http://ping.fm/uqerW | Nov 22 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @lxoliva Interesting as in "OMG Ubuntu!" ;-) | Nov 22 16:26 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | Ive ran linux for over a decade | Nov 22 16:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im rather doomed | Nov 22 16:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | even if I wanted to go back to windows, Im not sure if I even know how to use it anymore | Nov 22 16:26 |
| cubezzz | I enjoy trying new OSes | Nov 22 16:27 |
| cubezzz | but there's no need to go back to doze | Nov 22 16:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | I find new OSes annoying | Nov 22 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | even OSX pissed me off | Nov 22 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I tried it for a whole year on my powerbook | Nov 22 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I forced myself to do it | Nov 22 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I ended up just turning it into linux | Nov 22 16:29 |
| cubezzz | so is it better than windows? | Nov 22 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: yes | Nov 22 16:29 |
| MinceR | i find non-unix OSes annoying | Nov 22 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can install apt-get on it. | Nov 22 16:29 |
| cubezzz | AROS is worth a look if you liked Amiga | Nov 22 16:30 |
| MinceR | osx isn't better than winblows, but really, it's just a race of limbless retards between those two | Nov 22 16:30 |
| cubezzz | I'll try any open source OS | Nov 22 16:30 |
| cubezzz | minix, haiku, aros, bsd, etc etc | Nov 22 16:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] TSA has met the enemy — and they are us http://yhoo.it/dsm6gv | Nov 22 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] We had a good idea with LibreOffice: Getting rid of the domination of one vendor. Let's see what Novell's future is going to be! #tdf | Nov 22 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell is not the next SCO. It just competed with SCO to see who holds the assets of SCO 2.0 (Microsoft) | Nov 22 16:31 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: I thought the amiga hardware was nice | Nov 22 16:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | the OS was shit | Nov 22 16:31 |
| MinceR | hm | Nov 22 16:31 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, you might like AROS in the future | Nov 22 16:31 |
| cubezzz | for now it's a bit rough around the edges | Nov 22 16:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] @jonobacon: And certain "intellectual property" goes to a Microsoft consortium... | Nov 22 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Windows Azure VM role and why you might not want to use it (Tim Anderson blog): http://bit.ly/aPAHIF | Nov 22 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Novell is accused of repeatedly stalking a female photographer" http://is.gd/hAXAi | Nov 22 16:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ahmed needs your help with Ubuntu Cloud screencasts - http://is.gd/hAXIX - can you help? #ubuntu #cloud #locoteams | Nov 22 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips get familiar with the overall landscape first, then explore in depth. Reading becomes tenfold faster if you actively seek info | Nov 22 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Those who insulted me for foreseeing Microsoft's pickup of Novell patents can now apologise :-) Chocolates too would be nice. #swpats #msft | Nov 22 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ::brain explode:: | Nov 22 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz Those who insulted me for foreseeing Microsoft's pickup of Novell patents can now apologise :-) Chocolates too would be ... | Nov 22 16:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @robmyers Mr. @jonobacon already knows it, but he's careful not to say something negative about anyone. #selfcensorship ;-) | Nov 22 16:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Am I dreaming ? M$ to get the Unix brand and copyrights/patents ? | Nov 22 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] It is days like today that I realize why it is so very important that we have gnu | Nov 22 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft has future potential as a consulting firm specialising in how to distort markets | Nov 22 16:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz something doesn't add up with that stalking case. she's a photog. if she took pic every time she saw him, she cd prove her case | Nov 22 16:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith predictable | Nov 22 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 yeah :-) | Nov 22 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dyfet the gpl did not help in this case | Nov 22 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Now, lawsuits will rain... | Nov 22 16:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @OhMeadhbh: @schestowitz so i should probably take "get CNE certification" off my to-do list? | Nov 22 16:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin Gropethink, n. Lack of individual willingness to revolt against TSA's invasive "enhanced" screenings; see also: conformity. | Nov 22 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] in twitter, AstroTurfering account @MSTechPages distorted what I wrote, RTing it with "Apple" where it said "Microsoft". Misquoting. #msft | Nov 22 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @RyanMcGreal: @schestowitz @qu1j0t3 There's seriously a naked scanner company called "Rapiscan"? You can't make this stuff up! | Nov 22 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips don't cut, increase your reading burden. If you've 1 mandatory textbook, read 3. Chances are you will make more sense out. | Nov 22 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] boingboing: Furrygirl's sexy stripdown protest in Seattle airport mocking TSA security theater http://ur1.ca/2efo5 !privacy #humanrights | Nov 22 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @RyanMcGreal: @schestowitz @qu1j0t3 There's seriously a naked scanner company called "Rapiscan"? You can't make this s ... | Nov 22 16:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk that would surprise the heck outta me. EVERYBODY ought to subscribe to @schestowitz | Nov 22 16:47 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/58512985#notice-59074566 :-) | Nov 22 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | In response to http://identi.ca/notice/59073840 | Nov 22 16:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @p2pnet States subsidising Hollywood: bad idea -- new report http://www.p2pnet.net/story/46039 << excellent report Jon | Nov 22 16:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: p2pnet news » Blog Archive » States subsidising Hollywood: bad idea .::. Size~: 59.49 KB | Nov 22 16:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oops. Last RT was from @etenil to @rysiek | Nov 22 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips read for goals, don't be passive, ask yourself questions, try and anticipate what's next. And set your goals very very high | Nov 22 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm thanks! ;-) | Nov 22 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I'm preparing a series where I go product by product (at NOVL) and explain why Novell being bought means to each | Nov 22 16:52 | |
| schestowitz | RT @rysiek Holy cow, part of #Novell ☛'s IP will go to a #Microsoft ☛-controlled holding, will they remake #SCO ☛? !linux ☛ !gnu ☛ > #antitrust ☛ bypass | Nov 22 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: in twitter, AstroTurfering account @MSTechPages distorted what I wrote, RTing it with "Apple" where it said "Microsoft". | Nov 22 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Can't the FTC block this Novell/M$ deal ? | Nov 22 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #learningtips read fast, faster. This requires printed material as clean as possible, w/o distracting stuff. | Nov 22 16:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: "Novell is accused of repeatedly stalking a female photographer" http://is.gd/hAXAi | Nov 22 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Novell is not the next SCO. It just competed with SCO to see who holds the assets of SCO 2.0 (Microsoft) | Nov 22 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @eff: EFF Discusses the Future of Internet #Privacy at UN Internet Governance Forum https://eff.org/r.u9x #IGF10 | Nov 22 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: President Obama, After Traveling With Naked Scanner CEO, Defends Naked Scans http://is.gd/hATsM #tsa #cronyism | Nov 22 16:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith they set up a loophole. Elliot the criminal (Mr. Singer, disgusting person who attacks poor people) helps fund the transaction | Nov 22 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: All-Seeing Airport Scanners Sparking Litigation and Protests http://is.gd/hAl0o #tsa | Nov 22 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: "Open core isn't about FOSS. It's proprietary software's evil twin in a mask." -- Pamela Jones, #Groklaw http://is.gd/hA9yb | Nov 22 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith the whole #AttachMSFT deal (with a shell and with Singer, previously Maritz) smells like something arranged in the boiler room | Nov 22 16:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Let's wait for @fosspatents spin on this :-) | Nov 22 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] CiviSync - Outlook Synchronization with #CiviCRM - Want to add your outlook email / contacts to #civicrm? comment on: http://bit.ly/9MQUcL | Nov 22 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] RT @TechSoup: Webinar: Manage Data, Donations, & More w/ #CiviCRM, Tues11/23, 11 a.m. Pacific, #opensource http://bit.ly/cBNOo1 ^LR #fb | Nov 22 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There will be a lot of champange on Ballmer's table tonight when he comes home. Will RonH be invited? | Nov 22 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Venezuelan Government Begins Distribution of 350,000 Laptop to School Children http://is.gd/hzVoe ... running Linux! | Nov 22 16:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz No anti trust here then... | Nov 22 17:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can Novell's CEO RonH be /seriously/ paid $6 million/year in *bonuses* for liquifying #NOVL or is this part of the plan? | Nov 22 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer he probably waits for instructions :-) | Nov 22 17:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith "If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good." -Bill Gates (but he wasn't talking about buying Novell's assets) | Nov 22 17:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva That's reading further than the data permits. Best guess I have seen so far is WordPerfect and PlateSpin are the targets. | Nov 22 17:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Make it look legal, you mean... ;-) | Nov 22 17:06 | |
| abeNd-org | wordperfect? | Nov 22 17:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft cannot make marketable products anymore. Now it's just looking at an anti- @fosspatents plan, uses proxies | Nov 22 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft: if it can't be done, change the law (e.g. legalise #swpats ). Failing that, recruit proxies, try suing (SLAPP) /cc @agentsmith | Nov 22 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz besides "Blame Boycottboy and Evangelists"? ;-) | Nov 22 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Will Mr.Fosspatents speak against this atrocious deal ? I doubt... | Nov 22 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The image of the IT industry is sometimes geeks in white collar shirts. Reality is, this industry is dominated by gangastrs, workers abused | Nov 22 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer there's no Boycottboy, there is someone who dislikes patents includes NOVE^H^H^HRSOFT's | Nov 22 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Mr. Fauxpatents has just copy and paste skills. He mass-mails journalists and mass-comments (carbon copies) comments. #spammer | Nov 22 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: "I once preached peaceful coexistence with Windows. You may laugh at my expense -- I deserve it." --Be's CEO is.gd/hzK3X | Nov 22 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | Heh. About Novell's CEO: "Sure he can. Big Novell stock owners has been screaming 4 the company to be turned into into cash for years. RonH delivered." https://twitter.com/#!/sjvn/status/6755734779858944 | Nov 22 17:13 |
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| schestowitz | SJVN still defends Novell, as always | Nov 22 17:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] today, for mysterious reasons involving the dutch and relationship mechanics which elude me in full, HP Sauce is to be today's scape goat. | Nov 22 17:14 | |
| cubezzz | I wonder what Ken Thompson thinks of all this | Nov 22 17:14 |
| schestowitz | "Depends what they've actually got. If there's champagne, they may need some asprin too for the future headaches." https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6753483331997696 | Nov 22 17:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope of what type? | Nov 22 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz "Difficult times lie ahead, Harry Potter" Couldn't be truer now... | Nov 22 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jonobacon none that I know of yet. it's early. | Nov 22 17:16 | |
| schestowitz | "More of a satire reply. :) Kind of like your posts of late. ;)" https://twitter.com/MSTechPages/status/6754424387010560 | Nov 22 17:16 |
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| schestowitz | "@MSTechPages It's not satire, it's misquoting and potential daemonisation with lies" | Nov 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | I;ve just told sjvn: "@MSTechPages It's not satire, it's misquoting and potential daemonisation with lies" | Nov 22 17:17 |
| schestowitz | oops. "I'm surprised you still support Novell after this." | Nov 22 17:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] more KDE "Sex on the Beach"! by "beach" i mean meego, and by "sex" i mean demos: http://ur1.ca/2ebbs Kontact Touch is looking really nice | Nov 22 17:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] How Ubuntu builds up on Debian | apt-get install debian-wizard http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/11/22/how-ubuntu-builds-up-on-debian/ | Nov 22 17:17 | |
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| schestowitz | There's two of them who defend Novell | Nov 22 17:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/sjvn/status/6757865981214721 "I don't support Novell. I'm just explaining how Novell stockholders see it. For them, this is a big win. To me, it's a mess." | Nov 22 17:19 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Malaysian Indicted After Hacking Federal Reserve http://ur1.ca/2ek8q | Nov 22 17:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @sjvn I don't support Novell. I'm just explaining how Novell stockholders see it. For them, this is a big win. To me, it's a mess. | Nov 22 17:21 | |
| abeNd-org | i will miss the products though, no more gw or zenworks or idm :/ | Nov 22 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I'm writing about them now | Nov 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Many links to your site | Nov 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Didn't find time to post, but today I'll just do Novell posts | Nov 22 17:22 |
| abeNd-org | np | Nov 22 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Special day today, at least we do know what Novell ends up as | Nov 22 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 more in http://is.gd/hB5nA | Nov 22 17:22 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: uhmm when I search for sjvn on identica or even status.net I can't find | Nov 22 17:22 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: identi.ca/sjvn nope, status.net/sjvn nope | Nov 22 17:23 |
| abeNd-org | i cant imagine they will all disappear, heck, you still stumble across OS/2 after all these years here & there | Nov 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | I don't hate Novell, I'm just scared of what it can do to software freedom | Nov 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | And today we see why... | Nov 22 17:23 |
| abeNd-org | schestowitz np, i take no offense | Nov 22 17:23 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: he's not in idnetica | Nov 22 17:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @erikjfisher: TSA: Big Brother is touching you... | Nov 22 17:24 | |
| cubezzz | Linux is impervious to microsoft's machinations | Nov 22 17:24 |
| abeNd-org | not the FUD though | Nov 22 17:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: where is he then? | Nov 22 17:25 |
| cubezzz | the contracts with OEMs, that hurts Linux | Nov 22 17:26 |
| cubezzz | although anyone with a bit of brains can assemble a PC | Nov 22 17:26 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: just twitter, he's a "pragmatist" | Nov 22 17:26 |
| cubezzz | I have talked to some brain washed people though | Nov 22 17:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: a what? also it was the identica bot where the message came from | Nov 22 17:27 |
| cubezzz | one guy said to me - get this - "Only Microsoft listens to it's customers" | Nov 22 17:27 |
| schestowitz | "I feel your tweets are comical in themselves, although you may not think so. I figured you'd use facts to back up an argument." https://twitter.com/#!/MSTechPages/status/6757950538383360 | Nov 22 17:27 |
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| cubezzz | and I'm thinking.... | Nov 22 17:27 |
| schestowitz | What a prick | Nov 22 17:27 |
| cubezzz | who? | Nov 22 17:28 |
| schestowitz | He's promoting Microsoft by heckling me now and misquoting on purpose, changing company names | Nov 22 17:28 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: MSTechPages | Nov 22 17:28 |
| schestowitz | People whose name is a brand name | Nov 22 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Never trust em | Nov 22 17:28 |
| cubezzz | ha | Nov 22 17:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/Codepope/status/6758058646568961 "Not specifically Unix related, a lot appear to be from security/identity/directory side some networking." | Nov 22 17:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] TSA is the DRM of travel. They inconvenience all non-terrorists (paying customers) and seem ineffective at stopping terrorists (pirates). | Nov 22 17:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Today was the first day of the Ubuntu Patch Pilot scheme - http://is.gd/hB6ns - great to already to see some great progress made! #ubuntu | Nov 22 17:29 | |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, I don't even do the twitter thing | Nov 22 17:29 |
| cubezzz | just as well it seems | Nov 22 17:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @openbytes Thanks, that works! Check out the new theme, too http://trashbird1240.wordpress.com | Nov 22 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @Codepope unless it's profitable, Singer^H^H^Hlliot will shut it down | Nov 22 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @nhi TSA is the DRM of travel. They inconvenience all non-terrorists (paying customers) and seem ineffective at stopping terrorists... | Nov 22 17:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @richslxh !HTML5 still supports Flash via <object>, it cannot *replace* it. You miss the point of this group - it’s about the html standard | Nov 22 17:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] St. Louis tops list of most dangerous US cities - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101122/ap_on_re_us/us_dangerous_cities | Nov 22 17:37 | |
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| schestowitz | http://searchcio.techtarget.com/news/2240024676/How-to-select-an-enterprise-collaboration-platform-hold-on-tight "Requires Membership to View" | Nov 22 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Who would pay to read some article among so many? | Nov 22 17:38 |
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| abeNd-org | yea, expertsexchange & techtarget are both pay sites for info found elsewhere | Nov 22 17:40 |
| abeNd-org | not sure if this one was posted already http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/novell-sale-shows-its-control-by-microsoft/7843?tag=nl.e589 | Nov 22 17:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Twitter having problems today. Second 500 error I've seen. | Nov 22 17:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] I'll just tell you the answer right now: there's *nothing* "so special about me", so you don't need to buy this book: http://ur1.ca/2ekht ☺ | Nov 22 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @xenijardin: The Xeni Jardin guide to internet protest, 5 step edition: 1) HAS SOME OUTRAGE 2) TWEETS 3) TITS 4) ????? 5) PROFIT | Nov 22 17:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What's So Special About Me? By Bradley Kuhn - NEW (eBay item 270665898032 end time 29-Nov-10 01:30:33 AEDST) : Books, Magazines .::. Size~: 104.4 KB | Nov 22 17:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Train Your Mind: Don't Be So Predictable | Tricycle http://www.tricycle.com/web-exclusive/train-your-mind-dont-be-so-predictable | Nov 22 17:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @carlopiana besides, buying just patents and copyrights works around the anti-trust issues, sadly. or does it? | Nov 22 17:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] More info about this Bradley Kühn that writes self-help books for Christian teenagers: http://ur1.ca/2ekje Personal #Name_Space_Collision | Nov 22 17:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What's So Special About Me?, Dr. Bradley Kuhn, publisher Xulon Press the Christian book, self-publishing company. .::. Size~: 47.51 KB | Nov 22 17:54 |
| abeNd-org | as a novl reseller/partner I'm waiting for this "Our partner executive team will be contacting you to discuss our ongoing relationship and future plans.." | Nov 22 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Nov 22 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Stacked polls too | Nov 22 17:55 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59076627 "this is worth watching to see how it pans out. unspecified IP rights are to go to Microsoft consortium" | Nov 22 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Roy (linuxcanuck)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-10 17:33:54 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.08 KB | Nov 22 17:58 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/58514974#notice-59076549 "Yeah I missed that on proofread, but re-posted correctly. Sorry :)" | Nov 22 17:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @lxoliva I am looking into it, but don't hold much hope. | Nov 22 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz so M$ put the two roosters who might have what it wanted to fight, to then buy what it wanted from the hurt winner | Nov 22 17:59 | |
| schestowitz | ".@schestowitz This will knock your socks off. All service staff can easily skip screenings to get [stuff] on to planes. http://shar.es/XaPDu" | Nov 22 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/6761939355041792 | Nov 22 18:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dyfet: It is days like today that I realize why it is so very important that we have gnu | Nov 22 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft got everything it needed from Novell and its buddy Singer ("Elliot"), a Vulture Fund, will get the rest disposed of, as expected. | Nov 22 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz this market distortion consulting firm should have the “Thank You for Smoking” lead role as CEO | Nov 22 18:01 | |
| abeNd-org | I guess Brainshare will be renamed to MS-Teched | Nov 22 18:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Got the guitar refinished today. Hope the colour turns out to be as gorgeous as it promised to be today.... | Nov 22 18:02 | |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: stop sayin' that, you're getting Miguel EXCITED! | Nov 22 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 This will knock your socks off. All service staff can easily skip screenings to get [stuff] on to planes. http://shar.es/XaPDu | Nov 22 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz Rapiscan is a typo. not sure about the right spelling: Rapescan or Rapin'scan | Nov 22 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Also refinished and refretted the neck. Got new tuners as well. And replaced the MIM decal with a classic 50s Tele one.... :D | Nov 22 18:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TSA's double standard - Ask the Pilot - Salon.com .::. Size~: 66.16 KB | Nov 22 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Might also hack the wiring with a S1 switch tomorrow.... Lots of change but why not while I'm at it.... | Nov 22 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva but rape is what happens when you *refuse* to be scanned by Chetroff & minions | Nov 22 18:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who in the world has the most extensive pr0n collection? The #TSA of course, they also legally possess lots of pedo stuff. | Nov 22 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | "Novell will be out of the Linux biz as SuSe is to be spun off" https://identi.ca/notice/59077788 | Nov 22 18:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #opensuse needs to start planning its escape from Novell http://is.gd/hBcOi | Nov 22 18:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @linuxcanuck @schestowitz Novell will be out of the Linux biz as SuSe is to be spun off | Nov 22 18:11 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: So Microsoft well kind of own OpenSuse now? | Nov 22 18:12 |
| schestowitz | No | Nov 22 18:12 |
| schestowitz | AttachMSFT does | Nov 22 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @schestowitz: Who in the world has the most extensive pr0n collection? The #TSA of course, they also legally possess lots of pedo stuff. | Nov 22 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | With Singer the gangster | Nov 22 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes, but they are linked to Microsoft or whatever | Nov 22 18:13 |
| sebsebseb | just started reading some of this stuff by the way | Nov 22 18:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Days ago: Novell (NASDAQ: NOVL) Takeover Speculation Rallies Stock, Q4 Looks Bleak http://is.gd/hBd2Y | Nov 22 18:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: Coalition shelves plans to protect public sector whistleblowers - http://bit.ly/a6JIbq add it to the list #whistleblowers | Nov 22 18:16 | |
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| schestowitz | Can you open http://www.itworldcanada.com/blogs/webb/2010/11/18/sc-congress-cyber-attack-demo-as-it-happened/55922/ ? | Nov 22 18:16 |
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| schestowitz | This site breaks a lot for me | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Same error | Nov 22 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Different months.... | Nov 22 18:17 |
| schestowitz | IDG should get its act togther | Nov 22 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @schestowitz Now what about the Unix rights that at issue in SCOX vs NOVL? Who gets those now? | Nov 22 18:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] YouTube - Popp'in That Magical Power Yo! - Film Riot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-GTtSdt1Y | Nov 22 18:19 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: anyway Open Suse can be forked I guess | Nov 22 18:20 |
| sebsebseb | if they feel the need | Nov 22 18:21 |
| Ziomatrix | sevsebseb: perhaps they can join the Mandriva fork | Nov 22 18:21 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: well the Mandriva fork will want to use the Mandriva tolls like urpmi and so on, and Suse people will want to use Yast I guess | Nov 22 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | so hmm | Nov 22 18:22 |
| sebsebseb | however in quite a few ways I guess Mandriva and Open Suse are similar really | Nov 22 18:22 |
| Ziomatrix | sevsebseb: it just seems to me the distro landscape consists of the titans of Red Hat/Fedora, Ubuntu and then everyone else. | Nov 22 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: anyway 2011 should be an interesting year, and now the Novell thing, goes onto my list as well | Nov 22 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | so far its got, Gnome 3, Mageia, and Canonica's Unity | Nov 22 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | in head list or whatever | Nov 22 18:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah maybe OpenSuse should die, and their developers help Mageia instead :) | Nov 22 18:24 |
| sebsebseb | distros deaths can be a good thing | Nov 22 18:24 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: what about XFCE? | Nov 22 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: exactly though most of the hype is about Ubuntu and Fedora | Nov 22 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | even though, these distros are great, Mandriva, PC Linux OS, UnityLinux I guess ( not tried that one in a vm yet ) and I suppouse OpenSuse as well | Nov 22 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | plus there are others really I guess, such as Sabayon for example | Nov 22 18:25 |
| sebsebseb | well yes plenty of good alternative distros out there, for beginners as well, that aren't Ubuntu or based on it | Nov 22 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | for beginners and other people that want to use it | Nov 22 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: uh what about XFCE? | Nov 22 18:26 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: nice Sebayon has KDE | Nov 22 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | XFCE and LXDE are similar, I don't care that much about them | Nov 22 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: uhmm most of the popular distros if not all of them have KDE | Nov 22 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | so yes in this context Ubuntu and Kubuntu would be the same distro | Nov 22 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | Ziomatrix: look at the site for PC Linux OS | Nov 22 18:27 |
| Ziomatrix | sebsebseb: how come many don't look at KDE as a good desktop? | Nov 22 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | they support six desktops offically :D | Nov 22 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | probably since KDE 4 is not that much like KDE 3 | Nov 22 18:27 |
| sebsebseb | and its more Windows like, and all geek to customise uh | Nov 22 18:28 |
| sebsebseb | and bloated and such | Nov 22 18:28 |
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| sebsebseb | anyway I am going to eat so back in a bit or later or wahtever | Nov 22 18:28 |
| Ziomatrix | I g2g. I would like to hear more on what patents MS. indirectly got from Novell. | Nov 22 18:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: boingboing: Furrygirl's sexy stripdown protest in Seattle airport mocking TSA security theater http://ur1.ca/2efo5 | Nov 22 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Design Jam London #1: 50 design enthusiasts. 9 hours. 1 challenge. http://mzl.la/a67dg5 | Nov 22 18:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @lincoln: inacreditável: http://bobolhando.com.br/tim-conectando-voce-a-mulas/ /RD rua Sapo Queijo Nada em BSB? incrível que chegou! | Nov 22 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/416615/rss | Nov 22 18:34 | |
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| schestowitz | The AstoTuefer has just set up a new account, @techpigs | Nov 22 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Clearly he's obsessed | Nov 22 18:35 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/techpigs | Nov 22 18:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @bkuhn sorry, it's the idealistic ones like me you need to watch out for, god knows how many gpl violations rmsgnulinux has right now :/ | Nov 22 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz bah, details ;-) I say inducing me to virtuall strip without even realizing it was rape ;-) | Nov 22 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz in Brazil, TSA workers would be all in jail. behind the bars, not scanning visitors | Nov 22 18:49 | |
| cubezzz | oink oink | Nov 22 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn /me imagines Elmo singing, to the tune of Jingle Bells: GPL, GPL, love the GPL! | Nov 22 18:54 | |
| schestowitz | "♻ @schestowitz: ♻ @qu1j0t3 service staff can easily skip screenings, get [stuff] onto planes. shar.es/XaPDu | leave TERROR~1 to the pros" | Nov 22 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @lxoliva @schestowitz in Brazil, TSA workers would be all in jail. behind the bars, not scanning visitors | Nov 22 18:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@lxoliva @schestowitz & airline safety in brazil is very good. & they don't need paranoia. Because their state doesn't engage in terror. | Nov 22 18:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @bkuhn I resent that ;) | Nov 22 19:01 | |
| rpgdude | does anyone know exactly which IP is being sold to M$? | Nov 22 19:01 |
| abeNd-org | not yet | Nov 22 19:02 |
| dyfet | All 882 Novell patents according to the sec filing, or so I have heard... | Nov 22 19:02 |
| rpgdude | damn so M$ will own the copyright on UNIX | Nov 22 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | tinfoilhat guessing they go for some groupwise & incorporate it into exchange, changing the product name to ExchangeWise | Nov 22 19:02 |
| dyfet | not copyrights, patents | Nov 22 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | patents & fud, good enough for them to establish their hold over the marketplace | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | AttachMSFT gets the copyrights | Nov 22 19:03 |
| rpgdude | right, but who will hold the copyright on UNIX once Novell is gone? | Nov 22 19:03 |
| dyfet | I am guessing AttachMSFT... | Nov 22 19:03 |
| MinceR | probably some m$ slave | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Maybe AttachMSFT will sell them | Nov 22 19:03 |
| MinceR | just like before | Nov 22 19:03 |
| rpgdude | yeah | Nov 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Not to IBM.... | Nov 22 19:04 |
| cubezzz | what happens to AIX and the other Unixes? | Nov 22 19:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] oh, @leorockway I did the math today, I spent 8.5 hours pretty near straight working on the server yesterday XD | Nov 22 19:04 | |
| dyfet | http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/758004/000119312510265964/d8k.htm is the source of the 882 number... | Nov 22 19:04 |
| rpgdude | why doesn't some company outbid M$? | Nov 22 19:04 |
| schestowitz | VMB_ware? | Nov 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Maritz? | Nov 22 19:05 |
| rpgdude | or maybe OIN | Nov 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Novell is useful for one thing now | Nov 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | For attacking things with patents | Nov 22 19:05 |
| rpgdude | OIN should buy the patents | Nov 22 19:05 |
| dyfet | Also on November 21, 2010, Novell entered into a Patent Purchase Agreement (the “Patent Purchase Agreement”) with CPTN Holdings LLC, a Delaware limited liability company and consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft Corporation (“CPTN”). The Patent Purchase Agreement provides that, upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth in the Patent Purchase Agreement, Novell will sell to CPTN all of Novell’s right, title and int | Nov 22 19:05 |
| dyfet | erest in 882 patents (the “Assigned Patents”) for $450 million in cash (the “Patent Sale”). - this is the relevent part... | Nov 22 19:05 |
| schestowitz | So the highest bidder might be some military state | Nov 22 19:05 |
| cubezzz | Novell continues to grant IBM's license of Unix | Nov 22 19:05 |
| cubezzz | so now...? | Nov 22 19:05 |
| cubezzz | it's AYBABU | Nov 22 19:06 |
| MinceR | i think they're too scared of IBM not to continue doing so | Nov 22 19:06 |
| cubezzz | it would be better if IBM owned Unix | Nov 22 19:06 |
| rpgdude | $450 million is peanuts to some of these software giants | Nov 22 19:07 |
| rpgdude | IBM could outbid MSFT | Nov 22 19:07 |
| cubezzz | that's true | Nov 22 19:07 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 22 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.27.56 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 22 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.32.26 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 22 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] TSA in 2012 [IMG] http://i.imgur.com/stsab.jpg | Nov 22 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | If they knew | Nov 22 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Khey kept iy very quiet | Nov 22 19:08 |
| schestowitz | They | Nov 22 19:08 |
| schestowitz | And Novell is close to ballmer | Nov 22 19:08 |
| rpgdude | yeah, this patent sale worries me, but ill be glad to see novell disappear | Nov 22 19:09 |
| cubezzz | thank Stallman it's not the Dark Ages of Computing again | Nov 22 19:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lnxwalt140 I'll so a post soon | Nov 22 19:09 | |
| rpgdude | next step for MSFT is suing RMS | Nov 22 19:09 |
| rpgdude | for violating UNIX patent | Nov 22 19:10 |
| cubezzz | uh about that... | Nov 22 19:11 |
| cubezzz | patens do expire | Nov 22 19:11 |
| cubezzz | patents | Nov 22 19:11 |
| MinceR | subject to lobbying | Nov 22 19:12 |
| MinceR | see how copyrights expire in yankeestan | Nov 22 19:12 |
| cubezzz | not sure if anyone can just renew the Unix patent(s) indefinitely | Nov 22 19:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's the week of videos and KDE! this time Sebas, Rafael and Augstin talking about the commuity mechanics of KDE: http://ur1.ca/2el57 | Nov 22 19:12 | |
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| cubezzz | but Linux doesn't infringe on Unix IP | Nov 22 19:13 |
| cubezzz | right? | Nov 22 19:13 |
| cubezzz | no code shared | Nov 22 19:13 |
| MinceR | it was alleged that ibm (or someone else?) copied sysv unix code into linux but had the rights to do so | Nov 22 19:14 |
| dyfet | that is a copyright question, not a patent question, the two are rather different | Nov 22 19:14 |
| MinceR | but i'm not really sure | Nov 22 19:14 |
| cubezzz | again, then patents expire... I'd love to know the dates | Nov 22 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.35.9 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 22 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.36.1 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernel | Nov 22 19:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Monster / Careerbuilder need serious competition. Interstitial ads? Is this 1999? | Nov 22 19:24 | |
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| cubezzz | it's a sad end | Nov 22 19:31 |
| cubezzz | I see Noorda died in 2006 | Nov 22 19:31 |
| abeNd-org | Ray? yeah | Nov 22 19:33 |
| abeNd-org | its a good thing hes not around to see this mess | Nov 22 19:33 |
| abeNd-org | but ms "won" when techs no longer had the power to decide what goes on in the network, & the C level folks on the golf course decided it was cooler to have windows | Nov 22 19:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It’s Not #SCO Versus Novell, It’s SCO and #Novell http://is.gd/hBp6S #unix #swpats #AttachMSFT | Nov 22 19:36 | |
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| abeNd-org | funny /. coment - In court testimony Mr. Hawn is reported to have said 'I was told we had to kill GNU as part of this deal. I didn't really understand the reference, but I looked up a picture of a Gnu. When I saw them wandering onto my ranch I knew what had to be done." | Nov 22 19:36 |
| cubezzz | lol | Nov 22 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Just released: #linux #stable #kernel 2.6.27.56 http://bit.ly/cppdhc 2.6.32.26 http://bit.ly/9dipAK and 2.6.36.1 http://bit.ly/duIIY1 | Nov 22 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Also just released: #linux #stable #kernel 2.6.35.9 http://bit.ly/avrqIa 'Please note, the 2.6.35 kernel is now "End Of Life" and will [..]' | Nov 22 19:37 | |
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| cubezzz | well I don't think Linux is in any danger | Nov 22 19:42 |
| cubezzz | GNU is not Unix after all | Nov 22 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @mtux Join the !KDE translation team http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2010/11/join-kde-translation-team.html | Nov 22 19:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] “No person ... shall be deprived of ability to connect to others without due process of law & presumption of innocence” http://bit.ly/9xPMhP | Nov 22 19:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Tories sold off most of the council houses. Now tenancy to be means tested, earn too much? pack your bags and leave. #ideologicalmadness | Nov 22 19:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Seven Weeks Later, LGP & Its DRM Is Still Down: Last week we reported on the situation where LGP has been withou... http://bit.ly/a4mndK | Nov 22 19:49 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: but Novell gives patents to Microsoft | Nov 22 19:49 |
| schestowitz | SOFTWARE patents | Nov 22 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL! ;D ♺ @cdibona: Goodness: Angry Birds Peace Treaty http://t.co/Hi0wStE | Nov 22 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @hexmode best argument against TSA patdowns from TSA itself http://bit.ly/apwEVT | Nov 22 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Son of a peach, the #archos70 is back ordered till the 17th of December !android | Nov 22 19:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Brrr: http://journal.wjsullivan.net/272486.html | Nov 22 19:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @colivre: Comunidade Software Livre.Org não para de crescer! Usuário 10 mil será premiado! http://2tu.us/2tm3 !softwarelivre | Nov 22 20:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Novell's Sales Director for Australia and New Zealand Quits http://is.gd/hBsMk #Novell #Microsoft #revisionism | Nov 22 20:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @johndrinkwater No, not missing the point at all, in fact I promote it where I can and test html5 websites. | Nov 22 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @johndrinkwater When anybody complains about flash, ie Youtube, i'll suggest html5, and that includes tagging this group. | Nov 22 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 86 dents! | Nov 22 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] More patent nonsense. http://ur1.ca/2elji #swpats | Nov 22 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A set of stable kernel updates http://lwn.net/Articles/416653/rss | Nov 22 20:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] I have just been cutting !Fedora Stickers out for decorating my Laptop, Have anybody made som Intel i7 !Fedora art stickers? | Nov 22 20:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Headed to Microsoft? http://journal.wjsullivan.net/272851.html | Nov 22 20:09 | |
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| cubezzz | that reminds me when Homer drank Fud :) | Nov 22 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. Just layed the kibosh on some idiot spamming the !LO address claiming we just bashed Ubuntu, now discovering his site is redirecting... | Nov 22 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ...to malware. Good "advertisement" for the Ubuntu community, that. !LO | Nov 22 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft purchasing 882 Novell patents (Network World): http://bit.ly/gyeBsT | Nov 22 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Pidgin 2.7.6 in Ubuntu (With MSN Certificate Fix And Multiple MSN Logins) http://bit.ly/hbGvt4 | Nov 22 20:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @johnsu01, reporting from Seattle: Headed to Microsoft? http://journal.wjsullivan.net/272851.html | Nov 22 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Google's $6 Million Feminist Bonus to Lady Engineer http://gawker.com/5696434/ | Nov 22 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: What $200,000 in Student Debt Looks Like http://gawker.com/5696300/ | Nov 22 20:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @richslxh HTML5 video, canvas support doesn’t overlap Flash fully, nor rewrites existing sites. Not blanket solution to current problem. | Nov 22 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Paula Rooney: Microsoft refuses to specify what it bought from Novell. #swpats | Nov 22 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johndrinkwater/@johndrinkwater] @richslxh ‘adios Adobe’ is not productive commentary in the group | Nov 22 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Benchmarks Of AMD's Newest Gallium3D Driver: While we have already published two exciting articles today looking... http://bit.ly/hD198x | Nov 22 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat had "no comment" about the Microsoft purchase of the Novell patents, btw.... | Nov 22 20:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Change of plan, if anybody has problems with flash video, i'll suggest youtube html5 beta, and be done with it. Just left the html5 group. | Nov 22 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: Two click to poweroff a android tablet sucks... I always forget to make a second click.. #android http://bit.ly/h3MH9I | Nov 22 20:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Wow I'm glad I had that phone call. So I'm now working on the right design rather than the wrong one... | Nov 22 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turkey: Opening ports and airports to Greek Cyprus out of the question until a permanent settlement is found. http://ur1.ca/2elrj #EU | Nov 22 20:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] ALBA trade office opens in Havana. http://ur1.ca/2elsl !Cubanews | Nov 22 20:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Nope, I won't be getting to GLAM-Wiki. :-( | Nov 22 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Blocked a debian project leader and left the debian group. Even though i work with debian and use it personally. Os=cool Community=fickle | Nov 22 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] I hate cellphone companies | Nov 22 20:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: The British Library releases 3 million bibliographic records into the public domain using CC0: http://bit.ly/h8wiYR | Nov 22 20:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost you'z trollin' | Nov 22 20:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @2600: Part 2 of today's announcement - DRM-free PDF versions of Volume 26 now available at store.2600.com/hadivo26.html w/ new features! | Nov 22 20:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Valleywag: Steve Jobs Action Figure Is Insanely Coveted http://gawker.com/5696517/ | Nov 22 20:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: LOL we all do, we all do. | Nov 22 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] آر تي @johnsu01 Headed to Microsoft? http://journal.wjsullivan.net/272851.html | Nov 22 20:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Want to see a video of Politicold live from the show in Modesto? You got it: http://is.gd/hBASp #severedfifth | Nov 22 20:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Europe's new cosmonauts graduate. http://ur1.ca/2em04 #EU | Nov 22 21:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Keep Your Desktop Clean With Directory Cleaner And Files Organizer http://bit.ly/h8CgcA | Nov 22 21:01 | |
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| toros | hi | Nov 22 21:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Frauenfelder: Scientist: X-ray scanners deliver “20 times the average dose that is typically quoted by TSA.” http://is.gd/hBBDU | Nov 22 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink Commons is best translated as Rossio, but I'm not sure Brazilians would grasp that; Commons is a preferred "translation" | Nov 22 21:06 | |
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| abeNd-org | easy, dont travel by plane... | Nov 22 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Jeez.... Two hours of Jeeves & Wooster changes how I talk.... Oo | Nov 22 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Care to explain why? | Nov 22 21:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jonobacon: Liked it. #keepitlive | Nov 22 21:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] http://www.adatabase.org/ <-- Claims to be "Open Source" but really, really, really isn't (see the Ts&Cs) #fail | Nov 22 21:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink same meaning, but Rossio is not a commonly used word | Nov 22 21:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink late prof Imre Simon was the one who AFAIK-first suggested using this translation within the .br FS community | Nov 22 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink he starts his paper “O Rossio não-Rival” citing the Houaiss dictionary: Rossio: terreno roçado e usufruído em comum | Nov 22 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva OK, thanks. What's your view of "bem comunitario" (which has a less PT-pt slant I am told) | Nov 22 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink that's precisely what the English Commons amounted to IIUC | Nov 22 21:22 | |
| schestowitz | hi, toros | Nov 22 21:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink that said, he promptly admits the term may sound obscure. it was new to me when I first read his paper, years ago | Nov 22 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva In English history it was actually shared property of a privileged few, so lacks the populist notion now associated with it. | Nov 22 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SUSE, OpenSUSE, and Why AttachMSFT Won’t Care http://is.gd/hBF5B #SUSE #OpenSUSE #Novell #Microsoft | Nov 22 21:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Disappearing Israeli left http://ur1.ca/2em7z | Nov 22 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Oooh, Planet Ubuntu now looks all purdy - http://planet.ubuntu.com/ #ubuntu #locoteams | Nov 22 21:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva We're thinking we may use "rossio" with a translator's footnote explaining it | Nov 22 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @osamak @johnsu01 Headed to Microsoft? http://is.gd/hBFs0 | Nov 22 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] We're looking for good examples of cultural heritage institutions using truly free licencing, can you help? - http://is.gd/hBFun | Nov 22 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink you might want to link to http://ur1.ca/2em87 that appeared in http://ur1.ca/2em8q | Nov 22 21:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I think Rossio (once one knows about it) reflects the concept better | Nov 22 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva We were also going to link http://rn.softwarelivre.org/alemdasredes/2007/10/15/imre-simon-rossio-nao-rival/ | Nov 22 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I wouldn't worry about the colonist/colonized slant. US is fine with Commons, and BR should learn about Rossio | Nov 22 21:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink sounds good to me! | Nov 22 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Heard a !poker phrase on an oggcast I haven't heard in a while: "all-in coup". V. old British term for some types of all-in squeeze plays. | Nov 22 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Turns out my translator studied with Imre Simon... | Nov 22 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] DRM-free ebooks: http://www.ebooksjustpublished.com/ !dbd | Nov 22 21:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink funny that the summary of the speech ended up using the term “comuns não rivais” (comuns for commons :-) | Nov 22 21:36 | |
| abeNd-org | what a wild day | Nov 22 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Reading @filofax_uk website - amazed & delighted by how many fellow luddites there are out there :-) #filofax | Nov 22 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @johnsu01: DRM-free ebooks: ur1.ca/2emcj #dbd | Nov 22 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Novell acquired by Attachmate, sells some patents to Microsoft http://ur1.ca/2emcq | Nov 22 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Will Suse Linux become MicroSux (Micro$oft Linux) ??? | Nov 22 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Let's get this straight, the senior civilian representative of NATO says children in Kabul are safer than those in London, NY #bridgetoofar | Nov 22 21:44 | |
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| schestowitz | abeNd-org: yeah | Nov 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | FOr me it's a mess | Nov 22 21:45 |
| schestowitz | And I raised my voice because of it earlier (which I rarely do) | Nov 22 21:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AttachMSFT Could Attach #Baracus to the Ground http://is.gd/hBIaG #novell | Nov 22 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith Is it not already? | Nov 22 21:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] This week our weekly Ubuntu Cloud Meetings and Q+A sessions begin! Be sure to join us on IRC! http://is.gd/hBIlj #ubuntu #cloud | Nov 22 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I see Suse dying slowly. And, it won't recover. RIP Suse Linux. | Nov 22 21:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: It has been dying for years. This is the last rights. | Nov 22 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Remember you can see the full plethora of Ubuntu community events and meetings at http://is.gd/hBITv #ubuntu #locoteams :-) | Nov 22 21:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Wayland License Changing To LGPLv2: Wayland has experienced a surge in development activities from new developer... http://bit.ly/gJT2g4 | Nov 22 21:51 | |
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| cubezzz | interesting, google books has a lot of the old magazines | Nov 22 21:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @agentsmith Poor Novell! SUSE was great stuff! Oh well, it'll be forked... | Nov 22 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Man, this ain't right. Suse WAS a gr8 Linux distro. M$ taints everything it touches. | Nov 22 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dandart/@dandart] @agentsmith No, because they ain't being bought by m$! | Nov 22 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @dandart The patents that could HALT the whole Linux ecosystem, or hinder it in a very bad way will belong to M$. | Nov 22 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Running !heybuddy on MeeGo on my Toshiba laptop. | Nov 22 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: Yes it was popular especially in EU. MS do not taint they choke to death. | Nov 22 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Looks like the Linux group will be full of links to blogs/sites leaching off the Novell/Suse thing. Great Adsense material :) #left #group | Nov 22 22:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] Finished Upgrade to !Ubuntu Studio 10.10, so far it works, though I'm a bit disappointed with how up-to-date (or not) many packages are. | Nov 22 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Now, with those patents, they'll sue the arses out of any Linux vendor(or even a community project) goodbye fair competition | Nov 22 22:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Sweet, TaskView gets an App Indicator - http://is.gd/hBL8x :-) | Nov 22 22:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost g_sane_namespace | Nov 22 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: You know this better than I do. I am still hoping that the Usonian regulators will do the right thing. | Nov 22 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera I'm afraid they are already in M$'s pockets. Let's hope there's decency somewhere. | Nov 22 22:11 | |
| ThistleWeb | any word from the various monoboosters on the novel / MS news of the day? | Nov 22 22:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] im thinking about asking folks to donate to my favorite open source apps/orgs in lieu of xmas presents this year... | Nov 22 22:12 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I could be wrong but jono seems conspicuous by his absence in comments about it, I'd imagine he's waiting to get the official canonical stance first, not that canonical or jono are boosting it as such | Nov 22 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] dear lazyweb, #archlinux #clyde doesn't seem to respect ignorepkg/noupgrade directives, what is correct syntax for /etc/clyde.conf? halp plz | Nov 22 22:14 | |
| ThistleWeb | I'm guessing it's gonna be a "until we know the specifics, nothing has changed" | Nov 22 22:15 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Attachmate aquiring Novell is not that bad. They have worked along HP IBM Orcale for a long time. | Nov 22 22:17 |
| oiaohm | I can see Attachmate wanting the Unix IP. | Nov 22 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Since it would put them on a better footing. | Nov 22 22:17 |
| oiaohm | Really it what is MS getting threw the holding company. schestowitz | Nov 22 22:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, back down to 16 identica groups now after an unsubscribing spree. Far too much rubbish cluttering up my screen. | Nov 22 22:17 | |
| dyfet__ | thistleweb: As for Ubuntu, Banshee is the package that did not yet wail in the night...the dangers it poses seem only even greater now | Nov 22 22:18 |
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| ThistleWeb | I reckon there's plenty of mono supporters who genuinely believe in it, while there's others who know it's a patent trap and are working to get it further accepted | Nov 22 22:19 |
| dyfet__ | (as does the dangers of mono in general) | Nov 22 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: They are, but there is always hope. Hope eh? someone should build a politoreligion around it. Oh I see they have. | Nov 22 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Phoronix: Wayland License Changing To LGPLv2 http://ping.fm/c0CjJ | Nov 22 22:19 | |
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| ThistleWeb | the first lot must be rethinking their decisions now | Nov 22 22:19 |
| oiaohm | dyfet__: Banshee risk is higher than what you just said. | Nov 22 22:19 |
| oiaohm | Banshee Lead developers are from Novell. dyfet__ | Nov 22 22:19 |
| ThistleWeb | while the second lot are just put further out on a limb to continue pushing it | Nov 22 22:19 |
| dyfet__ | Yes, that is my point, the risks are even worse now than before | Nov 22 22:20 |
| oiaohm | So even of nothing happens Mono the brain drain of the merger could crimple it | Nov 22 22:20 |
| oiaohm | In the same way rythombox got crimpled | Nov 22 22:20 |
| dyfet__ | oic, yes, the idea it can become dead end abandonware is also a very real possibility | Nov 22 22:20 |
| ThistleWeb | so it might turn out to be a good thing as it pushes mono over the edge as far as people being willing to trustit | Nov 22 22:20 |
| ThistleWeb | it may turn out to get it rejected in places that were ambivelent yesterday | Nov 22 22:21 |
| oiaohm | Best Mono dies. | Nov 22 22:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft-organized consortium pays $450 million for Novell IP - NetworkWorld.com http://ping.fm/4ZEMV | Nov 22 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Microsoft Acquiring Novell? Conspiracy Theory - Muktware http://ping.fm/UivGJ | Nov 22 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Perhaps it halts in an European regulatory council. Europeans R not as corrupts as americans. | Nov 22 22:21 | |
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| oiaohm | Next Best it ends up directly supplied by Microsoft. | Nov 22 22:21 |
| dyfet__ | oiaohm: agreed, best it does die | Nov 22 22:21 |
| schestowitz | #ZENworks ☛ 11 Announced Quickly Before Being Attached to #AttachMSFT ☛ http://is.gd/hBLlx #novell ☛ | Nov 22 22:21 |
| oiaohm | Ie MS cannot patent attack something they directly supply. | Nov 22 22:21 |
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| oiaohm | Really AttachMSFT I see as insulting to Attachemate schestowitz | Nov 22 22:22 |
| oiaohm | Over Attachemate history they have tried to remain fairly vendor netural. | Nov 22 22:22 |
| dyfet__ | oiaohm: why not? | Nov 22 22:22 |
| oiaohm | Now attacking the MS Holding company go for it. | Nov 22 22:23 |
| oiaohm | dyfet__: If you supply software attacking it is very much like attacking you own limbs. | Nov 22 22:24 |
| oiaohm | dyfet__: and it has been tested in the court of law by of all people orcale | Nov 22 22:24 |
| dyfet__ | if they supply software they neither wish to nor serves their real interest, they can certainly selectively target those who use it, such as a distro like ubuntu | Nov 22 22:24 |
| dyfet__ | patents can be used very selectively | Nov 22 22:25 |
| oiaohm | dyfet__: by targeting who can use it openly will damage Mono take up. | Nov 22 22:25 |
| oiaohm | Also being a MS holding company people will ask more questions. | Nov 22 22:25 |
| dyfet__ | they have abandoned siliverlight, who is to say they may decide a cross-platform .net no longer serves their interest... | Nov 22 22:25 |
| oiaohm | At this stage they need cross platform .net | Nov 22 22:26 |
| dyfet__ | do they? why? other than to contaminate others with patent encumbered api's? | Nov 22 22:26 |
| oiaohm | They have lost traction on mobile phones. | Nov 22 22:26 |
| oiaohm | Moblie phones is becoming the biggest market. | Nov 22 22:26 |
| oiaohm | Bigger than PC's. | Nov 22 22:26 |
| oiaohm | So that could effectively drain developers of MS windows. | Nov 22 22:27 |
| dyfet__ | But if android and apple continue to stay away from mono the contagenon, there is little more it can spread.... | Nov 22 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] UK heroin shortage http://ur1.ca/2emqj | Nov 22 22:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: EU just a different form of corruption, but you never know perhaps it will, what body in the Union would address this problem? | Nov 22 22:27 | |
| oiaohm | Yes this is why Mngle is out there pushing mono for iphones and android | Nov 22 22:27 |
| dyfet__ | at that point it has no value other than to bite those already contaminated | Nov 22 22:28 |
| oiaohm | To try to stop the developer bleed. | Nov 22 22:28 |
| oiaohm | If .net developers see the platform as only for windows. | Nov 22 22:28 |
| oiaohm | The odds of them leaving will rise. | Nov 22 22:28 |
| oiaohm | MS needs the smoke and mirrors dyfet__ | Nov 22 22:28 |
| dyfet__ | if? Is it truly viable anywhere else? A second class runtime with a third class license does not sound that appealing.... | Nov 22 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost yeah well, your mom does strange things with vegetables #sowhat #justmessin | Nov 22 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @creativecommons: Show your love for CC: donate today and have your gift doubled by Miraverse! http://bit.ly/9BUJjn | Nov 22 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Ubuntu Jedi http://t.co/BNshEhO | Nov 22 22:29 | |
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| oiaohm | .net developers use the aguement that there language is cross platform to be allowed to deploy it to CEO's. | Nov 22 22:29 |
| oiaohm | Without the myth they are dead in water. dyfet__ | Nov 22 22:29 |
| dyfet__ | .net remains a windows only platform, a subset exists for now for other platforms...that myth I think is already dead | Nov 22 22:30 |
| oiaohm | The myth is not dead. | Nov 22 22:30 |
| oiaohm | I have seen .net developers argue that there application will work on mono as mono improves. | Nov 22 22:30 |
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| oiaohm | No mono no arguement. | Nov 22 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Dead in water. | Nov 22 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Well, the same that scrutinized Oracle & Sun (my guess) | Nov 22 22:31 | |
| jono | ThistleWeb, conspicious in the comments? what has it got to do with Ubuntu or Canonical? | Nov 22 22:31 |
| dyfet__ | Some as a child were willing to believe in the tooth fairy too.... | Nov 22 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Really the best thing that can happen is mono die. Then QT with QML comes up. | Nov 22 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Note I did not say I believed it was true. dyfet__ | Nov 22 22:32 |
| dyfet__ | QT/QML can be interesting...especially also when adding the possible corpse of client-side java as well...if they survive Nokia's new CEO... | Nov 22 22:32 |
| ThistleWeb | jono: I'd just have expected some thoughts on it, considering ubuntu use some mono apps, it surely affects them | Nov 22 22:32 |
| oiaohm | Myth is a myth and they cause a lot of problems. | Nov 22 22:32 |
| ThistleWeb | everyone and their auntie has been talking about it since it was announced, it was just odd that nothing from you or canonical was forthcoming | Nov 22 22:33 |
| dyfet__ | Since I have no idea whatsoever what windoze or other proprietary developers think, I can accept this idea maybe they do believe in that myth | Nov 22 22:33 |
| jono | ThistleWeb, I haven't commented because I am not really interested in it, and it hasn't got anything to do with us really | Nov 22 22:33 |
| dyfet__ | Though to do so says to me much about the power of ignorance... | Nov 22 22:34 |
| oiaohm | jono: its how the chips of the Novell by out land we wonder how that will effect mono so effect banhee and other .net programs Ubuntu and other distributions. | Nov 22 22:34 |
| jono | sure patents affect everyone, but there is no comment on the scope of the issues | Nov 22 22:34 |
| ThistleWeb | jono: k | Nov 22 22:34 |
| oiaohm | jono: I guess it wait and see from you side. If mono ends up a dead product you will go from there right? | Nov 22 22:35 |
| oiaohm | At this stage only thing the buyer has put interest in is SUSE. | Nov 22 22:35 |
| jono | we will evaluate things as they develop | Nov 22 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AttachMSFT Takes Over #Microsoft Rival #GroupWise . What Now? http://is.gd/hBPDv #novell #email | Nov 22 22:36 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I'd have thought any distro who installs any mono app by default would be watching this story to see how it affects them and whether it's a good idea to remove those apps or not | Nov 22 22:36 |
| schestowitz | [22:33] <jono> ThistleWeb, I haven't commented because I am not really interested in it, and it hasn't got anything to do with us really | Nov 22 22:37 |
| schestowitz | "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." -RMS | Nov 22 22:37 |
| schestowitz | jono: patents have a lot to do with Canonical | Nov 22 22:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @speeddefrost :P | Nov 22 22:37 | |
| jono | schestowitz I agree, but I am not commenting until I have a firm idea what is going on | Nov 22 22:38 |
| jono | so I am not speculating | Nov 22 22:38 |
| jono | there is *enough* speculation on this topic imho | Nov 22 22:38 |
| schestowitz | true | Nov 22 22:38 |
| schestowitz | That's what I said here earlier | Nov 22 22:38 |
| schestowitz | That you don't want (nor need) part in this | Nov 22 22:38 |
| ThistleWeb | therein lies the reason for the silence, not the "it doesn't really interest or concern us" line | Nov 22 22:38 |
| jono | schestowitz :-) | Nov 22 22:39 |
| oiaohm | I know that Fedora is not going to be bothered no matter what happens. | Nov 22 22:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Ars Technica: #Novell acquired by Attachmate, sells some patents to #Microsoft http://goo.gl/4R2i8 | Nov 22 22:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Al jazeera speculate that private companies will take over at Usonian airports and that TSA is living on borrowed time. | Nov 22 22:41 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I just got a flash of Yes Minister "you may say that, I couldn’t possibly comment" | Nov 22 22:41 |
| oiaohm | Hang on could those patents to MS be a forced sale | Nov 22 22:42 |
| oiaohm | Due to the out standing IP agreement. | Nov 22 22:42 |
| dyfet__ | oiaohm: does that mean that suse, under attachmate, does not have the patent covenent at all? | Nov 22 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: yes you have the answer. I can't remember name though. | Nov 22 22:44 | |
| oiaohm | The patent covernent is dead. | Nov 22 22:45 |
| oiaohm | It was not written to live threw a transfer. | Nov 22 22:45 |
| dyfet__ | well, that kinda also kills mono right there then, doesn't it? | Nov 22 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost the term is "namespacing" and it's pretty much a requirement. (today we'd use an actual C++ namespace instead; Qt has history) | Nov 22 22:46 | |
| oiaohm | Most likely. | Nov 22 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Even worse those 800 patents could have been Novell complete defence shield. | Nov 22 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Use to force MS to pay Novell for the agreement. | Nov 22 22:47 |
| dyfet__ | that was going to be my other question, whether any of the patent agreements survive change of control | Nov 22 22:47 |
| oiaohm | In that case 450 million is a very cheep deal to get those of the table against them for ever. | Nov 22 22:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @speeddefrost except that c++ supports function overloading. so it's either that or artificially limit (and beg for bugs) slots and signals | Nov 22 22:47 | |
| oiaohm | If it has a clause that allows transfer yes. dyfet__ | Nov 22 22:48 |
| oiaohm | If not it dies when company dies and covers clauses covering that event. | Nov 22 22:48 |
| dyfet__ | maybe attachmate may think microsoft was doing them a favor only to find they were stabbed in the back.... | Nov 22 22:48 |
| dyfet__ | and left holding a defective husk | Nov 22 22:49 |
| oiaohm | I can see attachmate wanting SUSE even without MS Stuff | Nov 22 22:49 |
| oiaohm | I can even see attachmate trying to help OpenSUSE | Nov 22 22:49 |
| ThistleWeb | what does it mean for opensuse? | Nov 22 22:49 |
| ThistleWeb | werent they getting more disillusioned with novell before? | Nov 22 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Recent years it been getting harder for attachment to sell there products with System builders normally just aquiring a distribution and put it on there hardware. | Nov 22 22:50 |
| oiaohm | So SUSE is a good deal no matter what for attachment | Nov 22 22:50 |
| dyfet__ | though it would be ironic if attachmate also finds it needs to de-mono suse :) | Nov 22 22:51 |
| ThistleWeb | so this could be the "if you want linux, buy from the official sanctioned one, who have paid for our IP, or face the threat of a lawsuit" | Nov 22 22:51 |
| oiaohm | Would not matter novell still held a lot of core old school SUSE developers. Removing mono would not be hard for them. dyfet__ | Nov 22 22:52 |
| dyfet__ | I did not say it would be hard, just ironic :) | Nov 22 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Kinect + Ubuntu = Jedi. Obviously. http://goo.gl/ColI5 | Nov 22 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Hello | Nov 22 22:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Which tall buildings near Saint Mary Axe could be sacrificed to build something nice instead. #architecture | Nov 22 22:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 10.55 GMT today Jeremy Paxman criticised capitalism, devils advocate I am sure, but a big start for the beeb. | Nov 22 23:01 | |
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| Viper550 | we should all migrate to the ark linux project | Nov 22 23:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @macno Supported Irish economy with a couple of #guinness | Nov 22 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 22.55 GMT, I have been further out. | Nov 22 23:02 | |
| MinceR | wut | Nov 22 23:02 |
| dyfet__ | I remember arklinux | Nov 22 23:03 |
| dyfet__ | It was the only distro that had a required dependency on packages I wrote | Nov 22 23:03 |
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| Viper550 | lol | Nov 22 23:05 |
| schestowitz | ark scared me and makes me think of arch | Nov 22 23:05 |
| Viper550 | anyway, Ark hasn't had a release in awhile due to some underlying changes and limited dev staff | Nov 22 23:05 |
| Viper550 | we have an uninstallable 64-bit ISO d; | Nov 22 23:05 |
| dyfet__ | I am not sure if it's true currently though :). But they used gnu common c++ for building some of their early distro-specific admin tools | Nov 22 23:05 |
| Viper550 | Zypp isn't filled to the brim with M% patents, right | Nov 22 23:06 |
| Viper550 | ? | Nov 22 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Has #Pulse Arrived to be Buried? Now Renamed #Vibe http://is.gd/hBU7m #novell #AttachMSFT | Nov 22 23:06 | |
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| Viper550 | we had no other choice, lead dev wasn't want system tools using scripting languages | Nov 22 23:07 |
| dyfet__ | vioper550: I simply enjoyed the fact I had a required package :)... | Nov 22 23:08 |
| Viper550 | and apt-rpm is unmaintained | Nov 22 23:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo but plasma was teh suck in kde 4.0?!?!?!?!eleventyslash?!?1 | Nov 22 23:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Alan Pope: Planet !Ubuntu Facelift http://goo.gl/2cc4U | Nov 22 23:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rrix was it even that good? ;) | Nov 22 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo I don't know ;) I didn't jump ship until 4.2. I was in a no-laptop period between 3.5.9 and 4.2.3 :P | Nov 22 23:16 | |
| *hazzy (44293b14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.41.59.20) has joined #techrights | Nov 22 23:20 | |
| hazzy | So, Microsoft continues the patent attacks | Nov 22 23:22 |
| hazzy | Or, they will at least | Nov 22 23:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Open-Source AMD Fusion Driver For Ontario Released: While we are still waiting on open-source support for the AM... http://bit.ly/ifQbz3 | Nov 22 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Open-Source AMD Fusion Driver For Ontario Released .::. Size~: 22.64 KB | Nov 22 23:22 |
| schestowitz | it's all they have left | Nov 22 23:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] class for the next 2hrs. #fail | Nov 22 23:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @toros: Alan Pope: Planet #Ubuntu Facelift http://goo.gl/2cc4U | Nov 22 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] them cellphone companies fscked up my day | Nov 22 23:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Planet Ubuntu Facelift | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 28.66 KB | Nov 22 23:29 |
| MinceR | gn | Nov 22 23:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Tiled View: New Gnome Shell Mockup http://bit.ly/i5ZKJZ | Nov 22 23:31 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Its not all they have left. Its the easiest of what they have left. | Nov 22 23:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tiled View: New Gnome Shell Mockup ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 64.14 KB | Nov 22 23:31 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah | Nov 22 23:35 |
| schestowitz | I didn't mean it so lierally | Nov 22 23:35 |
| schestowitz | *literally | Nov 22 23:35 |
| oiaohm | A restructor of MS operations is not going to be simple. | Nov 22 23:36 |
| oiaohm | MS is highly dependent on vendor lockin and a world breaking free of that will keep on causing MS problems. | Nov 22 23:36 |
| oiaohm | Patents are the last cards of vendor lockin attempts MS can play. | Nov 22 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Products to Lose Identity Under #AttachMSFT http://is.gd/hBYPq #IdentityManagement | Nov 22 23:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell Products to Lose Identity Under AttachMSFT | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.38 KB | Nov 22 23:37 |
| oiaohm | Product releases before the sale would be developers attempting to keep there jobs at least in a maintainership role. schestowitz | Nov 22 23:39 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I think you missed somethign Samsung Galaxy that has bad ish reviews sold 600 mil on first day. So MS 40 million sales of Windows Mobile 7 in compare is a pure laugh. | Nov 22 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes 1 android device outsold all of Windows Mobile 7 in the market. | Nov 22 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Just listening to !lo opinions on the name !libreoffice I must admit I don't like that name either, but then I can't think of any better | Nov 22 23:42 | |
| *toros has quit (Quit: leaving) | Nov 22 23:43 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Nov 22 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I saw that | Nov 22 23:43 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft makes money from Bada | Nov 22 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Android | Nov 22 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Samsung.. | Nov 22 23:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RMS and the Guardian, I have known for a long while he reads it regularly. Stupid Guardian technology section cooperate stop being twats | Nov 22 23:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @csmart: #ChromeOS netbooks delayed by several months http://bit.ly/dLWd0g #Linux | Nov 22 23:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome OS netbooks postponed until 2011 - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.81 KB | Nov 22 23:44 |
| oiaohm | I know they do. schestowitz But I was thinking a bit of a cheaky line. Maybe MS should give up on there mobile OS and invenst in Bada instead since it most likely more profitable. | Nov 22 23:45 |
| dyfet__ | Today's stories make me think of Novell bringing out it's dead... | Nov 22 23:45 |
| oiaohm | dyfet__: Novell bring out it dead and putting them in a grave has been more than over due. | Nov 22 23:46 |
| oiaohm | SUSE has been one of Novell biggest growth departments. | Nov 22 23:46 |
| oiaohm | Yet its been weight down buy a whole stack of products of Novells that don't sell and infact cost novell huge ammounts of money. | Nov 22 23:47 |
| oiaohm | Basically let the axe man lose and Novell is a good aquire. | Nov 22 23:47 |
| oiaohm | vmware wanted to just take SUSE since it was a profitable department. dyfet__ | Nov 22 23:48 |
| dyfet__ | yeah, who would really "want" the rest of that stuff...you would have to pay someone to buy it...oh, well, Microsoft kinda did pay attachmate to do so ;) | Nov 22 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Elliot Ass. did | Nov 22 23:50 |
| schestowitz | ASS-OCIATES | Nov 22 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Singer... | Nov 22 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Who starves people to become dirty rich and fund some Republicans and Zionis suff | Nov 22 23:51 |
| oiaohm | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/11/android-wallet Hmm | Nov 22 23:51 |
| schestowitz | *stuff | Nov 22 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Next Android Version Includes E-Wallet for Real World Purchases | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 90.21 KB | Nov 22 23:51 |
| oiaohm | Google is going all out. | Nov 22 23:51 |
| schestowitz | See the activities of Elliot Associated in the south | Nov 22 23:51 |
| schestowitz | *Associates | Nov 22 23:51 |
| dyfet__ | sschestowitz: well, between the $450 mil. patent deal, the 1 billion plus in existing Novell liquid assets, and that, it was a pretty low cost deal too.... | Nov 22 23:51 |
| schestowitz | This reminded me of the Goldman Sachs gambling that starved people by raising food prices. They just don't care. | Nov 22 23:52 |
| schestowitz | dyfet__: yes, very cheap | Nov 22 23:52 |
| schestowitz | I was surprised cause Red hat is worth 4 times that | Nov 22 23:52 |
| dyfet__ | The need of the many is so very often sacrificed for the greed of the few... | Nov 22 23:52 |
| schestowitz | And Red Hat hardly has the size of Novell's portfolio or even the brand | Nov 22 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Redhat has better contracts | Nov 22 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Long term support contracts | Nov 22 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Also redhat does not keep dogs of products around. | Nov 22 23:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 9: Just another monday http://ur1.ca/2enku | Nov 22 23:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 365 Project Day 9: Just Another Monday - rrix@TheStaff .::. Size~: 44.56 KB | Nov 22 23:54 |
| oiaohm | So redhat portfolio is small due to internal slaying. | Nov 22 23:54 |
| schestowitz | But still.. | Nov 22 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Look at company histories | Nov 22 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Quickly Unveils Operations Center, Before It Gets Attached to #AttachMSFT http://is.gd/hC1gy #microsoft | Nov 22 23:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell Quickly Unveils Operations Center, Before It Gets Attached to AttachMSFT | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.26 KB | Nov 22 23:56 |
| oiaohm | Really attachment I expect to be savage. | Nov 22 23:57 |
| oiaohm | All the show boating will not mean anything to them. | Nov 22 23:57 |
| schestowitz | gn | Nov 22 23:59 |
| schestowitz | I have 4 more Novell posts, will do em in the morn | Nov 22 23:59 |
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