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twittergood morningDec 20 11:28
twitterthe news about Issa's Federal Judge Patent training course was disturbing enough for me to look into Issa.Dec 20 11:29
twitterA slew of decisions by "trained" neophyte judges will not make the broken US patent system any better, it will just speed up the damage it does.Dec 20 11:30
twitterNeedless to say, I found some Microsoft taint to Mr. Issa.  His Directed Electronics company is famous for a car alarm with his menacing voice telling people to, "please step away from the car."  This is the much advertized "Viper" also one of the first systems that could be programed with a PC.Dec 20 11:34
twitterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_IssaDec 20 11:34
TechrightsBotTitle: Darrell Issa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 105.63 KBDec 20 11:34
twitterhttp://www.directed.com/Company/History.aspxDec 20 11:35
TechrightsBotTitle:  Directed Electronics - Corporate History  .::. Size~: 66.76 KBDec 20 11:35
twitterThe interaction with Microsoft back in early 1990s seems natural but the taint of the association lingers.  We can assume that Issa's views on patents were formed by that early association and from being a software owner in a very dirty and menacing business.  The company still serves it's web site with Microsoft ASP, ick, and as late as 2007 the company was a Zune partner.  Dec 20 11:39
twitterhttp://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2007/oct07/10-30NewZuneAccessoriesPR.mspxDec 20 11:39
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Announces Availability of New Zune Accessories at Retail: Zune unveils an expanded list of accessory partners to offer existing and new Zune users a wider selection. .::. Size~: 64.45 KBDec 20 11:39
twitterWikipeia notes some early misbehavior by Issa which include a crazy incident on his taking over car alarm company A.C. CustomDec 20 11:42
twitterWhile it is claimed that Issa is a great hunter of Goldman fraud and helped expose the backdoor bailout of AIG, Techrights has some links showing Issa profited personally from Goldman association.  Dec 20 11:44
schestowitzEveryone benefits from themDec 20 11:44
schestowitzExcept clientsDec 20 11:44
twitterhttp://washingtonindependent.com/91081/mudslinging-comes-full-circle-for-house-oversights-darrell-issaDec 20 11:44
schestowitzThey just stick closer to GS to co-loorDec 20 11:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Mudslinging Comes Full Circle for House Oversight’s Darrell Issa | The Washington Independent .::. Size~: 57.97 KBDec 20 11:44
schestowitzThey just stick closer to GS to co-lootDec 20 11:44
schestowitzGates makes money from GSDec 20 11:44
twitterWell, that is a funny thing for someone who's supposed to be a fraud crusader to do.Dec 20 11:45
schestowitzDuring Xmas everyone wants to be near to Gold Man's SacksDec 20 11:45
twitterbut we can expect a lot of mud to be thrown at a would be regulatorDec 20 11:46
schestowitzhttp://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2010/12/goldman-sachs-pay-out-111million-in.htmlDec 20 11:46
TechrightsBotTitle: poorrichard's blog: Goldman Sachs pay out $111million in bonuses despite taking billions in bailout money .::. Size~: 105.76 KBDec 20 11:46
schestowitzTechrightsBot: GS says "Thank you"Dec 20 11:46
schestowitzAnd to your kids and spouse tooDec 20 11:46
schestowitzYour donation to them make it a lovely xmas to themDec 20 11:46
twitterhttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44850.htmlDec 20 11:46
TechrightsBotTitle: Darrell Issa plans hundreds of hearings - Jake Sherman and Richard E. Cohen - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 108.11 KBDec 20 11:46
twitteraccording to wikipedia, Issa was also once targeted by a  Jewish Defense League bomb plot in 2001Dec 20 11:48
twitterI'd rather not concentrate on Issa's personality, but there's a lot of menace, blusher and violence in his history.Dec 20 11:50
twitterHe's also called "the richest man in Congress" with a net worth of $250 million.Dec 20 11:51
schestowitzWhat's Jewish Defense League? anything like the bullies from ADL?Dec 20 11:51
schestowitzNever trust orgs with "league" in them, like "Arab league"Dec 20 11:52
twitterI don't know, but a couple of their members were convicted for a plot to bomb his office.Dec 20 11:52
schestowitzOr FIFADec 20 11:52
schestowitzCorruptDec 20 11:52
schestowitzMore like legion :-)Dec 20 11:52
twitterIf you consider making your point with bombs to be corrupt, they are corrupt.Dec 20 11:53
twitterThe JDL folks probably did not like Issa's work with Syria and Lebanon. Dec 20 11:54
twitterbut I'm more interested in the neophyte patent judge plot.Dec 20 11:54
twitterI think that will be a real mess.  Just imagine half a dozen courts like East Texas.Dec 20 11:55
schestowitzI think Novell's new boss was tied to it. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/us/politics/28singer.htmlDec 20 11:55
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schestowitzBut I can't find it nowDec 20 11:55
schestowitzWikipedia may have had it wipedDec 20 11:55
twittertied to what?Dec 20 11:56
schestowitzSome of those Zionist orgsaDec 20 11:58
schestowitzBut also the financial sectorDec 20 11:58
schestowitz*orgsDec 20 11:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60749713Dec 20 11:59
TechrightsBot@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 20-Dec-10 11:30:53 UTC - Identi.ca: #Munich ’s Migration to !GNU !Linux Grinds Onward http://is.gd/j3ZMz "in the business of large migrations to GNU/Linux since before Limux."Dec 20 11:59
TechrightsBot-> Title:  Munich’s Migration to GNU/Linux Grinds Onward at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 30.65 KBDec 20 11:59
twitterBy the way, my impression of the Viper car alarm was that it was an over active nasty that menaced people walking by cars.  I used to live across the street from a huge parking lot and there was always one of those damn things going off.Dec 20 11:59
twitterDirected Electronics was in the aggressive insecurity market long ago.Dec 20 12:00
twitterThe attitude is to fortify and isolate yourself from your zombie neighbors. Dec 20 12:00
schestowitzwhat's that car alarm?Dec 20 12:01
twitteryes, those nasty car alarmsDec 20 12:01
schestowitzI don't see what this related to. /mebaffledDec 20 12:02
schestowitzBTW, we have a channel at #boyottnovell-socialDec 20 12:02
schestowitzThe political stuff usually goes there to sanitise the other channelsDec 20 12:02
twitterDirected Electronics was Issa's company.  He's the one setting up the patent boot camp for Federal judges.Dec 20 12:03
twitterIssa's background and attitude can be used as a predictor of what kind of training the judges receive.  Dec 20 12:04
twitterThe most relevant thing is what you caught - that there will be six new district courts hearing patent cases in the US.  My fear is that they will all be like East Texas.Dec 20 12:08
twitterYou found Issa here http://techrights.org/2010/12/20/kodak-and-microsoft-strategy/Dec 20 12:10
TechrightsBotTitle: CPTN Shows Microsoft Becoming a Patent Agitator Like Kodak, Whose Time is Long Gone | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.79 KBDec 20 12:10
twitterI decided to look up who was going to be teaching Federal Judges "the applicable law" and "the technology involved".  Low and behold, it was a former Microsoft partner who made oodles of money selling people hyperactive car alarms.Dec 20 12:12
schestowitzOh, I see...Dec 20 12:12
twitterIt's good to get Rep. Darrell Issa into logs where the information can be found again.Dec 20 12:14
twitterHis Microsoft associations are not readily apparent because the seem to have happened before the www was around.Dec 20 12:16
twitterI've researched how Microsoft wrapped their tentacles around all sorts of automotive stuff in the past.Dec 20 12:20
twitterIt's one area where they are hiding and ready to assert incompatibility with others.Dec 20 12:21
twitterCar electronics, ick.Dec 20 12:21
twitterSo, let's look at the nasty http://www.viper.com/C-104/Security-with-Remote-StartDec 20 12:23
TechrightsBotTitle:  Viper - Security with Remote Start  .::. Size~: 53.63 KBDec 20 12:23
twitter" mini-USB charging port and patented menu wheel"Dec 20 12:24
twittermenu wheel?  Is that what the guy will teach judges?Dec 20 12:24
twitterLOL, they want between five and eight hundred bucks for their alarms.  My car might not be worth that much.Dec 20 12:26
twitter" Viper Responder HD, winner of the coveted CES 2009 Innovations Award" http://www.viper.com/P-5902V/Viper-5902-Responder-Hd-Color-Supercode-Sst-2-way-Security-And-Remote-Start-SystemDec 20 12:30
TechrightsBotTitle:  Viper - Viper 5902 Responder HD Color SuperCode SST 2-Way Security and Remote Start System  .::. Size~: 89.49 KBDec 20 12:30
twitterhttp://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.viper.comDec 20 12:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Netcraft What's That Site Running Results .::. Size~: 12.77 KBDec 20 12:32
twitterWindows Server 2003    Microsoft-IIS/6.0, of courseDec 20 12:33
twitterI've read about all sorts of security problems that automotive systems have.  Playback attacks, poor or no use of encryption, etc.  Dec 20 12:36
twitterCar alarms are a symptom of a society that has neglects and fears it's neighbors, as are the need for commuting and cars in the first place. Dec 20 12:38
twitterIt is not good to see the very voice of such things telling Federal judges how to rule in patent cases.Dec 20 12:39
twitterIssa's own voice was used for his alarm systems.  It is very menacing. Dec 20 12:39
schestowitzIssBOT :-)Dec 20 12:40
MinceRthere's a good reason not to trust one's neighborsDec 20 12:40
MinceRas for the need for commuting and cars, you're wrong.Dec 20 12:40
schestowitzI meant IzzaBOTDec 20 12:40
schestowitzcar: the use of dead animals to move around with combustionDec 20 12:41
schestowitzThe Net removed some of the needs to travelDec 20 12:41
MinceRnot all cars use combustionDec 20 12:42
schestowitzA lot of the rest can be motored with other means. We exhaust a supply of millions/billions of years of oxygen+sun+roDec 20 12:42
MinceRalso, it did remove some of the needs, but not all of themsDec 20 12:42
schestowitz*rotDec 20 12:42
MinceRs/.$//Dec 20 12:42
schestowitzThe Swiss work on a plane which uses solar powerDec 20 12:42
schestowitzThe snag is that they flew it only with nearly 0 weight onDec 20 12:42
MinceRwhat if the sky is cloudy? :>Dec 20 12:43
schestowitzAnd it takes energy to make these planesDec 20 12:43
schestowitzMinceR: read DaedalusDec 20 12:43
schestowitz;)Dec 20 12:43
schestowitzhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DaidalosDec 20 12:44
TechrightsBotTitle: Daidalos – Wikipedia .::. Size~: 43.58 KBDec 20 12:44
twitterIf people did not hate their neighbors, they would not move to "gated communities" with huge lots and then spend hours in their cars every day.Dec 20 12:50
twitterLow density cities suck.  Dec 20 12:51
twitterIn places that have reasonable density you can .... walk to work!  Wow.Dec 20 12:52
MinceRhigh density cities suckDec 20 12:52
MinceRhaving to live in a concrete box sucksDec 20 12:53
twitterMaybe even walk to the grocery store and other places.Dec 20 12:53
schestowitzunlike the lungsDec 20 12:53
twitterMedium density is nicer.Dec 20 12:53
schestowitzMinceR: caves are no betterDec 20 12:53
schestowitzEsp. in winterDec 20 12:53
MinceRas for "gated communities", at least those reduce the probability that some asshole will break or scratch one's car.Dec 20 12:53
MinceRschestowitz: i'd prefer a real houseDec 20 12:53
schestowitzmade of what basis?Dec 20 12:53
MinceRbrick or wood, i guessDec 20 12:54
schestowitzIt's usually girders+concreteDec 20 12:54
twitterSmall lots, two story buildings.  There's a lot of dignity in that and you don't have to drive forever to get anywhere.Dec 20 12:54
MinceRthe point is that sharing a house with strangers is badDec 20 12:54
schestowitzYeahDec 20 12:55
schestowitzI did that like 10 years agoDec 20 12:55
twitterApartments have their place. Dec 20 12:55
schestowitzFriends though, not strangersDec 20 12:55
MinceRyes, around people who say they enjoy living there.Dec 20 12:55
twitterIt's nice to have those around when you move to a new city.Dec 20 12:55
schestowitzSome people live in boatsDec 20 12:56
schestowitzDaemonTroll lives in his car for a whileDec 20 12:56
twitterbut you don't have to live in a rabbit hutch to achieve reasonable and livable population density.Dec 20 12:56
schestowitz*livedDec 20 12:56
MinceRliving in a boat sounds like an interesting ideaDec 20 12:56
MinceRthough i wonder what they do with the mosquitoes.Dec 20 12:57
schestowitzMinceR: omelette?Dec 20 12:58
MinceRwutDec 20 12:58
schestowitzJokeDec 20 13:00
MinceRomelette du fromage!Dec 20 13:01
schestowitzBon apetite Dec 20 13:02
*MinceR was expecting "that's all you can say!"Dec 20 13:02
schestowitzmosquito in brine with segull steakDec 20 13:02
schestowitzMinceR: that's all you can eatDec 20 13:02
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twitterammusingly, Issa is mentioned here for launching fake scandals  http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149043/10_phony_scandals_the_gop_may_waste_your_tax_dollars_investigating?page=entireDec 20 16:49
TechrightsBotTitle: 10 Phony Scandals the GOP May Waste Your Tax Dollars Investigating | Tea Party and the Right | AlterNet .::. Size~: 113.64 KBDec 20 16:49
twitterso the stuff about banks might just be spin controlDec 20 16:50
twitterdamage control spinDec 20 16:50
twitterthat article, from Dec 2 predates Wikileaks.  With all the momentum being built by fake outrage, I can imagine everyone of the fake scandals being investigated.  Dec 20 16:51
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schestowitzTorrent users sue US Copyright Group for fraud and extortion  http://www.techspot.com/news/41341-torrent-users-sue-us-copyright-group-for-fraud-and-extortion.htmlDec 20 22:47
TechrightsBotTitle: Torrent users sue US Copyright Group for fraud and extortion - TechSpot News .::. Size~: 80.66 KBDec 20 22:47
schestowitzOld, but...Dec 20 22:47

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