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abeNd-orgoh nice, i just got one of those sprint evdo airraves, its nice to have full coverage around the house (mind you verizon & at&t suck ass where i live too, not sure about tmobile, never met someone with it)Dec 02 02:16
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/lamapper/statuses/10128560173875200 "lmao re-read your last tweet to me, makes me seem like a Windows Zealot and #Linux hater, actually the opposite...too funny :-)"Dec 02 04:56
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schestowitz<b>Related posts</b>:Dec 02 05:41
schestowitz<ul>Dec 02 05:41
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schestowitz<li>[cref 1009]</li>Dec 02 05:41
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schestowitz</ul>Dec 02 05:41
schestowitzOops.Dec 02 05:41
schestowitzhttp://www.sxc.hu/photo/706636Dec 02 05:41
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eet5g/tsas_recommend_that_children_be_told_the_patdown/Dec 02 06:40
TechrightsBot-scTitle: TSA's recommend that children be told the pat-down is a "game": That is "one of the most common ways" that sexual predators use to convince children to engage in inappropriate contact, says expert in fight against child abuse : WTF .::. Size~: 379.35 KBDec 02 06:40
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/eekg4/look_at_whos_complaining_the_most_about_wikileaks/Dec 02 06:48
TechrightsBot-scTitle: "Look at who's complaining the most about Wikileaks and you realize that it's the people who benefit from not being held accountable for their actions." -TechDirt : reddit.com .::. Size~: 519.24 KBDec 02 06:48
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/10197905637908481 "@schestowitz - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6729904244308031068&amp;hl=en# - kind of like the 'everything is alright' guys"Dec 02 07:01
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eeoi1/wtf_amazon_according_to_a_statement_from_senator/Dec 02 07:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: WTF, Amazon?! "According to a statement from Senator Joe Lieberman, Homeland Security Committee Chairman, Amazon.com has agreed to stop hosting WikiLeaks" [x-post] : WTF .::. Size~: 466.41 KBDec 02 07:04
MinceRit's amazon againDec 02 07:04
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/eeikv/noam_chomsky_on_declaring_wikileaks_a_terrorist/Dec 02 07:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Noam Chomsky on declaring Wikileaks a 'terrorist organization': "Outlandish. ... One of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population." : worldnews .::. Size~: 459.52 KBDec 02 07:16
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MinceRhttp://wartard.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-and-death-of-american.htmlDec 02 07:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: War Tard: Wikileaks and the death of American badassery. .::. Size~: 162.11 KBDec 02 07:36
schestowitzMinceR: strong language, I can't link to it ;pDec 02 07:38
MinceR:>Dec 02 07:38
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/BPGlobalPR/statuses/9761043387514880 "This holiday season, we're giving away the rest of our free t-shirts for only $10-$15. You're welcome! http://ow.ly/3hcoT"Dec 02 11:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/10322135931162624 "I'm waiting for an email back from the #rcmp for him advocationg murder"Dec 02 13:27
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schestowitz[15:01] <dougm> gtg, check you email tomorrow ..Dec 02 15:02
schestowitzMore PR spam:Dec 02 15:57
schestowitzMelody CallawayDec 02 15:57
schestowitz720-939-0476Dec 02 15:57
schestowitzmelody@callawaypr.comDec 02 15:57
schestowitzTwitter: melodycallawayDec 02 15:57
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Dec 02 15:58
schestowitz>Dec 02 15:58
schestowitz> Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. Please find below today's news fromDec 02 15:58
schestowitz> GWOS. Please let me know if you have any questions.Dec 02 15:58
schestowitz>Dec 02 15:58
schestowitz> Best,Dec 02 15:58
schestowitz> MelodyDec 02 15:58
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sebsebsebHiDec 02 17:01
FurnaceBoyhiDec 02 17:01
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: HeyDec 02 17:02
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: get this.Dec 02 17:48
schestowitzSomeone wants to separate politics from FOSS.Dec 02 17:49
schestowitzAnd sends me mail which I disagree with.... the typical discouragementDec 02 17:49
schestowitz"I don't know if you are just being obtuse or ignorant but, for the last time I will say this:Dec 02 17:50
schestowitz""01. The IRC channel is a waste of time and merely functions for your enemies to gather material in order to trash your reputation. Nothing said on that channel is of the slightest use to anyone. You also don't seem to have any sense of appropriateness or who your intended audience is. Company CEOs and leaders of educational establishments."Dec 02 17:50
schestowitzI don't run a PR agency :-)Dec 02 17:50
schestowitz"What impression do you think they would come away with? Oh, but wait, you either don't care or are unable to ascertain the effects of your utterances on the intended audiences."Dec 02 17:50
schestowitz"A case in point, as in you mentioning Wikileaks on IRC. Just this once, I'm going to explain it to you. Currently Wikileaks is a target of the US establishment and its founders reputation is beingDec 02 17:50
schestowitzdiscredited in the press through false accusations of rape. Lets say some journalist, in search of tech stories were to chance upon the IRC log, what would he see, just some stoner/radical activist, nothing to see here, moving on."Dec 02 17:50
schestowitzIOW:Dec 02 17:50
schestowitzI should just obey the smear campaignDec 02 17:51
schestowitzAnd move along ignoring wikileaksDec 02 17:51
schestowitz"Now, before you say it don't matter. IT DOES MATTER TO OTHER PEOPLE. People whos' opinions count, people in the "Free software movement" and people who might want to find out about it. This would not be a good time to mention Wikileaks in an IRC chat that is being monitored by your opponents. Do you not have any fucking common sense !!!"Dec 02 17:51
schestowitz"...Do you not get it yet. For the umpteened time your postings are not doing you or the cause any good. In fact they are doing the exact opposite. The techrights site is only marginally useful as a source of links, but is too confusing for the average layman to make sense of. Your mixing of personal opinions and facts also tends to dilute the msg."Dec 02 17:51
schestowitz"Finally, and for the last time, your time would be better served in writing short/concise reports on tech issues of the day and providing them to the tech press. If you are unable to change, then might I respectfully suggest that you stop supporting the cause."Dec 02 17:51
schestowitzThanks, but no thanks. But there's another example right here of attempts to convince people to avoid important issuesDec 02 17:52
FurnaceBoyI disagree with it as well.Dec 02 17:58
FurnaceBoyi dislike the veiled attacks in that mailDec 02 17:59
FurnaceBoyyou could go through with a highligher marking the assertions they are putting forward as agreed conclusionsDec 02 17:59
schestowitzNot the first from this personDec 02 17:59
schestowitzGoes back like a yearDec 02 17:59
FurnaceBoysomebody with a bee in their bonnetDec 02 17:59
schestowitzAnd I don't hear anything like this from anyone elseDec 02 17:59
FurnaceBoyrightDec 02 17:59
schestowitzhad that been a pattern, I'd considerDec 02 18:00
schestowitzThis person said this for agesDec 02 18:00
FurnaceBoysounds like somebody who hates irc and/or doesn't understand itDec 02 18:00
schestowitzirc is important to usDec 02 18:00
schestowitzCOmments get trollsDec 02 18:00
FurnaceBoyalso, gets off on personal attacks disguised as 'helpful criticism'Dec 02 18:00
schestowitzIRC easier to keep in controlDec 02 18:00
FurnaceBoydo you know who they are on irc ?Dec 02 18:01
schestowitznoDec 02 18:02
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: ignore the mail then.Dec 02 18:06
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i've had crackpot mail from microsoft fans occasionally.Dec 02 18:06
schestowitzthis one is not a Microsoft fanDec 02 18:07
schestowitzBut he objects to some thingsDec 02 18:07
FurnaceBoyi wouldn;t waste time on itDec 02 18:17
FurnaceBoysure, we could spend an hour deconstructing and responding to each 'point' and insinuation in the mail...Dec 02 18:18
FurnaceBoyprobably his objective, even if subconscious: to force you to give it attention.Dec 02 18:18
FurnaceBoyyou could respond, inviting them to identify themselves on irc for a real time discussion. :)Dec 02 18:19
FurnaceBoyin publicDec 02 18:19
schestowitzDon't worry about it...Dec 02 18:30
schestowitzANyway, if I was to hear this from a second person (which I never did), that would matter moreDec 02 18:31
schestowitzTHe person should slag off Groklaw instead:Dec 02 18:33
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101201101822786Dec 02 18:33
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schestowitzStill defending AppleDec 02 18:33
schestowitzNow, IMHO *that's* a waste of timeDec 02 18:33
MinceRdon't tell me that surprises you :>Dec 02 18:36
schestowitzOur leaks become hot too: "It looks like the link is broken: !Linux presentation: http://is.gd/i5WIM "http://identi.ca/conversation/59060259#notice-59654077Dec 02 18:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 26.32 KBDec 02 18:37
MinceRlol, that idiot m$ slave doesn't even understand how urls workDec 02 19:06
MinceRor what ximian wasDec 02 19:08
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: quick QDec 02 19:31
schestowitzWhat's the new twitter avatar?Dec 02 19:31
schestowitzLike communist kidDec 02 19:31
schestowitzFor me - using my baby photo to deliver strong content seems like a smart decision in retrospectDec 02 19:32
FurnaceBoyit's from a Soviet poster.Dec 02 19:33
FurnaceBoy(my av)Dec 02 19:33
schestowitzwhy choose it?Dec 02 19:33
FurnaceBoybecause i'm a Commie-lover and a Taliban-lover, in the view of many :)Dec 02 19:34
FurnaceBoyi'm tired of the accusations, so let them think it up front.Dec 02 19:35
FurnaceBoyanyone who can't see past the avatar i'm not interested in speaking with.,Dec 02 19:35
FurnaceBoyalso note subtitle:Dec 02 19:35
FurnaceBoy"Whatever scares you most."Dec 02 19:35
schestowitzahhh :-)Dec 02 19:37
schestowitzShock approachDec 02 19:37
FurnaceBoyit seems to be working.Dec 02 19:37
FurnaceBoypeople who are afear'd of communism/socialism will immediately conclude that's what I am. and people who think, don't notice it.Dec 02 19:38
FurnaceBoyyes, shock approach, if you will. because a rational approach doesn't work either. :)Dec 02 19:39
FurnaceBoyi have noticed trolls on twitter have dropped to zeroDec 02 19:39
FurnaceBoyor almost zeroDec 02 19:39
FurnaceBoysince changing it.Dec 02 19:39
FurnaceBoythey still follow and watch, but they don't bother speaking; perhaps because they conclude I am unchangeably communist or something.Dec 02 19:39
MinceRFurnaceBoy: what's your username on twitter?Dec 02 19:40
MinceRlol @ avatarDec 02 19:40
MinceRbut what's taliban about it?Dec 02 19:40
FurnaceBoynothing ... just referring to another past trollDec 02 19:41
MinceRicDec 02 19:41
FurnaceBoyu ain't tweeted till u been called a Taliban-lover :)Dec 02 19:41
MinceRi haven't tweetedDec 02 19:42
MinceR:>Dec 02 19:42
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: hard to reach you on m-blogsDec 02 19:43
FurnaceBoym-blogs?Dec 02 19:43
schestowitzcause of your impossible-to-memorise nymDec 02 19:43
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: microblogsDec 02 19:44
schestowitzstatusnet+twitter are the only ones I know/can accessDec 02 19:44
schestowitzare there more decent-sized ones?Dec 02 19:44
FurnaceBoyμ-blogs !Dec 02 19:45
schestowitz"Like junk food that doesn't even taste good >_>"  http://identi.ca/conversation/59074134#notice-59657289Dec 02 19:45
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: yesDec 02 19:45
schestowitzI don't have this on my keyboard]Dec 02 19:46
FurnaceBoyunicodeDec 02 19:46
FurnaceBoyu on linux?Dec 02 19:46
schestowitzI knowDec 02 19:46
schestowitzshorthand?Dec 02 19:46
schestowitzlike ctrl+something?Dec 02 19:46
FurnaceBoydead keysDec 02 19:47
FurnaceBoyi use the Character MapDec 02 19:47
FurnaceBoyi need to configure my keyboard to type accentsDec 02 19:47
FurnaceBoydo it too rarely to botherDec 02 19:47
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schestowitzYeah,I'm too lazy on IRCDec 02 19:50
schestowitzIn typesetting I have maths panelDec 02 19:50
FurnaceBoycharacter map is handy for gk/latin accentsDec 02 19:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/10419332420993024 "@schestowitz are you referring to the #patent office? If so, congress actually takes money the PTO collects, not the other way around."Dec 02 19:53
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Patrick Anderson: @schestowitz are you refer ... .::. Size~: 10.02 KBDec 02 19:53
schestowitzThat's not related to the point I was making.Dec 02 19:53
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: google is faster sometimesDec 02 19:54
schestowitzenter word without accents, get it /with/ themDec 02 19:54
FurnaceBoyheh, yeah i've done that.Dec 02 19:54
schestowitzThe usual FUD from the fauxopen source blog http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/69108Dec 02 19:59
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Open Source Exposed: The Linux Desktop Revolution is Dead | Network World .::. Size~: 84.78 KBDec 02 19:59
schestowitzAnd the usual sources of FUDDec 02 19:59
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 02 19:59
schestowitzBaitingDec 02 19:59
schestowitz"dead"/"kill"/etcDec 02 20:00
MinceRalso, false dichotomyDec 02 20:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/10421632124329984 "in that case I missed your point" :/Dec 02 20:18
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Twitter / Patrick Anderson: @schestowitz in that case  ... .::. Size~: 9.76 KBDec 02 20:18
schestowitzLawyer... patent lawyerDec 02 20:18
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/us-general-services-administration-is.htmlDec 02 21:12
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Official Google Blog: U.S. General Services Administration is going Google .::. Size~: 54 KBDec 02 21:12
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: proprietary to proprietaryDec 02 21:14
schestowitzNow they get no access to the binaries, eitherDec 02 21:14
schestowitzUnless Google is Govt. is GoogleDec 02 21:14
schestowitzIs there room for an !Ubuntu ☛ powered smart-phone? http://is.gd/i6WBD why not rely on #meego ☛ for example? We already have !linux ☛ on phones.Dec 02 21:57
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Blogger: Page not found .::. Size~: 3.67 KBDec 02 21:57
schestowitzI wanna use meego on something....Dec 02 21:58
schestowitzAMDDec 02 21:58
schestowitzor ARMDec 02 21:58
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schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/files/2zkvM.ogv Harper advisor calls for assassination of Wikileaks directorDec 02 22:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/ogg type .::. Size~: 0 KBDec 02 22:33
schestowitzGosh, I hate this hostDec 02 22:33
schestowitzI remember how this idiot attacked ChomskyDec 02 22:33
FurnaceBoy"Why isn't Chomsky dead already!"Dec 02 23:11
FurnaceBoy"His ideas endanger countless lives!"Dec 02 23:11
FurnaceBoy"Support our troops!"Dec 02 23:11
schestowitzHeheDec 02 23:21
schestowitz"Raise tention"Dec 02 23:21
schestowitz"Raise tension"Dec 02 23:21
schestowitzSo do the xray scanners ;-)Dec 02 23:21
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/59668276 "Ubuntu powered smart phone? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"Dec 02 23:59
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Daniel Devine (ddevine)'s status on Thursday, 02-Dec-10 23:56:31 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.38 KBDec 02 23:59

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