Join us now at the IRC channel.
*sebsebseb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | Dec 02 01:01 | |
*FurnaceBoy has quit (Quit: later) | Dec 02 01:32 | |
*abeNd-org (~KKlenke@tx-76-0-83-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 01:39 | |
abeNd-org | oh nice, i just got one of those sprint evdo airraves, its nice to have full coverage around the house (mind you verizon & at&t suck ass where i live too, not sure about tmobile, never met someone with it) | Dec 02 02:16 |
---|---|---|
*malacoda (~malacoda@cpe-68-206-255-156.satx.res.rr.com) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 04:39 | |
*FurnaceBoy (~FurnaceBo@bas2-toronto10-2925235595.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 04:44 | |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/lamapper/statuses/10128560173875200 "lmao re-read your last tweet to me, makes me seem like a Windows Zealot and #Linux hater, actually the opposite...too funny :-)" | Dec 02 04:56 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / lamapper: @schestowitz lmao re-read ... .::. Size~: 12.55 KB | Dec 02 04:56 |
*abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Dec 02 05:23 | |
*FurnaceBoy has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3) | Dec 02 05:24 | |
schestowitz | <b>Related posts</b>: | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | <ul> | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | <li>[cref 5335]</li> | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | <li>[cref 1009]</li> | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | <li>[cref 20892]</li> | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | <li>[cref 10962]</li> | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | </ul> | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | Oops. | Dec 02 05:41 |
schestowitz | http://www.sxc.hu/photo/706636 | Dec 02 05:41 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: stock.xchng - Me at 29 and at 89 years old (stock photo by gonharo) .::. Size~: 30.76 KB | Dec 02 05:41 |
MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eet5g/tsas_recommend_that_children_be_told_the_patdown/ | Dec 02 06:40 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TSA's recommend that children be told the pat-down is a "game": That is "one of the most common ways" that sexual predators use to convince children to engage in inappropriate contact, says expert in fight against child abuse : WTF .::. Size~: 379.35 KB | Dec 02 06:40 |
MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/eekg4/look_at_whos_complaining_the_most_about_wikileaks/ | Dec 02 06:48 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: "Look at who's complaining the most about Wikileaks and you realize that it's the people who benefit from not being held accountable for their actions." -TechDirt : reddit.com .::. Size~: 519.24 KB | Dec 02 06:48 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/Ender2070/statuses/10197905637908481 "@schestowitz - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6729904244308031068&hl=en# - kind of like the 'everything is alright' guys" | Dec 02 07:01 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Brandon Lozza: @schestowitz - http://vide ... .::. Size~: 12.64 KB | Dec 02 07:01 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: ThinkFree Presents : The Magnificent Deception .::. Size~: 36.78 KB | Dec 02 07:01 |
MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eeoi1/wtf_amazon_according_to_a_statement_from_senator/ | Dec 02 07:04 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WTF, Amazon?! "According to a statement from Senator Joe Lieberman, Homeland Security Committee Chairman, Amazon.com has agreed to stop hosting WikiLeaks" [x-post] : WTF .::. Size~: 466.41 KB | Dec 02 07:04 |
MinceR | it's amazon again | Dec 02 07:04 |
MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/eeikv/noam_chomsky_on_declaring_wikileaks_a_terrorist/ | Dec 02 07:16 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Noam Chomsky on declaring Wikileaks a 'terrorist organization': "Outlandish. ... One of the major reasons for government secrecy is to protect the government from its own population." : worldnews .::. Size~: 459.52 KB | Dec 02 07:16 |
*gnufreex (~gnufreex@178-223-105-146.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 07:33 | |
MinceR | http://wartard.blogspot.com/2010/11/wikileaks-and-death-of-american.html | Dec 02 07:36 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: War Tard: Wikileaks and the death of American badassery. .::. Size~: 162.11 KB | Dec 02 07:36 |
schestowitz | MinceR: strong language, I can't link to it ;p | Dec 02 07:38 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 02 07:38 |
*malacoda has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Dec 02 09:01 | |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/BPGlobalPR/statuses/9761043387514880 "This holiday season, we're giving away the rest of our free t-shirts for only $10-$15. You're welcome! http://ow.ly/3hcoT" | Dec 02 11:35 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter .::. Size~: 41.69 KB | Dec 02 11:35 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Street Giant » $10-$15 T-Shirt Blowout .::. Size~: 31.67 KB | Dec 02 11:35 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/10322135931162624 "I'm waiting for an email back from the #rcmp for him advocationg murder" | Dec 02 13:27 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Brandon Lozza: @schestowitz I'm waiting f ... .::. Size~: 13.09 KB | Dec 02 13:27 |
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@53.82-26-211.dynamic.dsl.brs.iprimus.net.au) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 13:37 | |
*oiaohm has quit (Changing host) | Dec 02 13:37 | |
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 13:37 | |
*oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Dec 02 14:28 | |
*abeNd-org (~KKlenke@66.212.115.49) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 14:28 | |
schestowitz | [15:01] <dougm> gtg, check you email tomorrow .. | Dec 02 15:02 |
schestowitz | More PR spam: | Dec 02 15:57 |
schestowitz | Melody Callaway | Dec 02 15:57 |
schestowitz | 720-939-0476 | Dec 02 15:57 |
schestowitz | melody@callawaypr.com | Dec 02 15:57 |
schestowitz | Twitter: melodycallaway | Dec 02 15:57 |
schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Dec 02 15:58 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 02 15:58 |
schestowitz | > Hope you had a great Thanksgiving. Please find below today's news from | Dec 02 15:58 |
schestowitz | > GWOS. Please let me know if you have any questions. | Dec 02 15:58 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 02 15:58 |
schestowitz | > Best, | Dec 02 15:58 |
schestowitz | > Melody | Dec 02 15:58 |
*FurnaceBoy (~FurnaceBo@bas2-toronto10-2925235595.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 16:31 | |
*sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 02 17:01 | |
sebsebseb | Hi | Dec 02 17:01 |
FurnaceBoy | hi | Dec 02 17:01 |
sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: Hey | Dec 02 17:02 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: get this. | Dec 02 17:48 |
schestowitz | Someone wants to separate politics from FOSS. | Dec 02 17:49 |
schestowitz | And sends me mail which I disagree with.... the typical discouragement | Dec 02 17:49 |
schestowitz | "I don't know if you are just being obtuse or ignorant but, for the last time I will say this: | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | ""01. The IRC channel is a waste of time and merely functions for your enemies to gather material in order to trash your reputation. Nothing said on that channel is of the slightest use to anyone. You also don't seem to have any sense of appropriateness or who your intended audience is. Company CEOs and leaders of educational establishments." | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | I don't run a PR agency :-) | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | "What impression do you think they would come away with? Oh, but wait, you either don't care or are unable to ascertain the effects of your utterances on the intended audiences." | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | "A case in point, as in you mentioning Wikileaks on IRC. Just this once, I'm going to explain it to you. Currently Wikileaks is a target of the US establishment and its founders reputation is being | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | discredited in the press through false accusations of rape. Lets say some journalist, in search of tech stories were to chance upon the IRC log, what would he see, just some stoner/radical activist, nothing to see here, moving on." | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | IOW: | Dec 02 17:50 |
schestowitz | I should just obey the smear campaign | Dec 02 17:51 |
schestowitz | And move along ignoring wikileaks | Dec 02 17:51 |
schestowitz | "Now, before you say it don't matter. IT DOES MATTER TO OTHER PEOPLE. People whos' opinions count, people in the "Free software movement" and people who might want to find out about it. This would not be a good time to mention Wikileaks in an IRC chat that is being monitored by your opponents. Do you not have any fucking common sense !!!" | Dec 02 17:51 |
schestowitz | "...Do you not get it yet. For the umpteened time your postings are not doing you or the cause any good. In fact they are doing the exact opposite. The techrights site is only marginally useful as a source of links, but is too confusing for the average layman to make sense of. Your mixing of personal opinions and facts also tends to dilute the msg." | Dec 02 17:51 |
schestowitz | "Finally, and for the last time, your time would be better served in writing short/concise reports on tech issues of the day and providing them to the tech press. If you are unable to change, then might I respectfully suggest that you stop supporting the cause." | Dec 02 17:51 |
schestowitz | Thanks, but no thanks. But there's another example right here of attempts to convince people to avoid important issues | Dec 02 17:52 |
FurnaceBoy | I disagree with it as well. | Dec 02 17:58 |
FurnaceBoy | i dislike the veiled attacks in that mail | Dec 02 17:59 |
FurnaceBoy | you could go through with a highligher marking the assertions they are putting forward as agreed conclusions | Dec 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | Not the first from this person | Dec 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | Goes back like a year | Dec 02 17:59 |
FurnaceBoy | somebody with a bee in their bonnet | Dec 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | And I don't hear anything like this from anyone else | Dec 02 17:59 |
FurnaceBoy | right | Dec 02 17:59 |
schestowitz | had that been a pattern, I'd consider | Dec 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | This person said this for ages | Dec 02 18:00 |
FurnaceBoy | sounds like somebody who hates irc and/or doesn't understand it | Dec 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | irc is important to us | Dec 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | COmments get trolls | Dec 02 18:00 |
FurnaceBoy | also, gets off on personal attacks disguised as 'helpful criticism' | Dec 02 18:00 |
schestowitz | IRC easier to keep in control | Dec 02 18:00 |
FurnaceBoy | do you know who they are on irc ? | Dec 02 18:01 |
schestowitz | no | Dec 02 18:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ignore the mail then. | Dec 02 18:06 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i've had crackpot mail from microsoft fans occasionally. | Dec 02 18:06 |
schestowitz | this one is not a Microsoft fan | Dec 02 18:07 |
schestowitz | But he objects to some things | Dec 02 18:07 |
FurnaceBoy | i wouldn;t waste time on it | Dec 02 18:17 |
FurnaceBoy | sure, we could spend an hour deconstructing and responding to each 'point' and insinuation in the mail... | Dec 02 18:18 |
FurnaceBoy | probably his objective, even if subconscious: to force you to give it attention. | Dec 02 18:18 |
FurnaceBoy | you could respond, inviting them to identify themselves on irc for a real time discussion. :) | Dec 02 18:19 |
FurnaceBoy | in public | Dec 02 18:19 |
schestowitz | Don't worry about it... | Dec 02 18:30 |
schestowitz | ANyway, if I was to hear this from a second person (which I never did), that would matter more | Dec 02 18:31 |
schestowitz | THe person should slag off Groklaw instead: | Dec 02 18:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101201101822786 | Dec 02 18:33 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Groklaw - The Psystar Appeal - Hearing (audio) .::. Size~: 100.91 KB | Dec 02 18:33 |
schestowitz | Still defending Apple | Dec 02 18:33 |
schestowitz | Now, IMHO *that's* a waste of time | Dec 02 18:33 |
MinceR | don't tell me that surprises you :> | Dec 02 18:36 |
schestowitz | Our leaks become hot too: "It looks like the link is broken: !Linux presentation: http://is.gd/i5WIM "http://identi.ca/conversation/59060259#notice-59654077 | Dec 02 18:37 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 26.32 KB | Dec 02 18:37 |
MinceR | lol, that idiot m$ slave doesn't even understand how urls work | Dec 02 19:06 |
MinceR | or what ximian was | Dec 02 19:08 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: quick Q | Dec 02 19:31 |
schestowitz | What's the new twitter avatar? | Dec 02 19:31 |
schestowitz | Like communist kid | Dec 02 19:31 |
schestowitz | For me - using my baby photo to deliver strong content seems like a smart decision in retrospect | Dec 02 19:32 |
FurnaceBoy | it's from a Soviet poster. | Dec 02 19:33 |
FurnaceBoy | (my av) | Dec 02 19:33 |
schestowitz | why choose it? | Dec 02 19:33 |
FurnaceBoy | because i'm a Commie-lover and a Taliban-lover, in the view of many :) | Dec 02 19:34 |
FurnaceBoy | i'm tired of the accusations, so let them think it up front. | Dec 02 19:35 |
FurnaceBoy | anyone who can't see past the avatar i'm not interested in speaking with., | Dec 02 19:35 |
FurnaceBoy | also note subtitle: | Dec 02 19:35 |
FurnaceBoy | "Whatever scares you most." | Dec 02 19:35 |
schestowitz | ahhh :-) | Dec 02 19:37 |
schestowitz | Shock approach | Dec 02 19:37 |
FurnaceBoy | it seems to be working. | Dec 02 19:37 |
FurnaceBoy | people who are afear'd of communism/socialism will immediately conclude that's what I am. and people who think, don't notice it. | Dec 02 19:38 |
FurnaceBoy | yes, shock approach, if you will. because a rational approach doesn't work either. :) | Dec 02 19:39 |
FurnaceBoy | i have noticed trolls on twitter have dropped to zero | Dec 02 19:39 |
FurnaceBoy | or almost zero | Dec 02 19:39 |
FurnaceBoy | since changing it. | Dec 02 19:39 |
FurnaceBoy | they still follow and watch, but they don't bother speaking; perhaps because they conclude I am unchangeably communist or something. | Dec 02 19:39 |
MinceR | FurnaceBoy: what's your username on twitter? | Dec 02 19:40 |
MinceR | lol @ avatar | Dec 02 19:40 |
MinceR | but what's taliban about it? | Dec 02 19:40 |
FurnaceBoy | nothing ... just referring to another past troll | Dec 02 19:41 |
MinceR | ic | Dec 02 19:41 |
FurnaceBoy | u ain't tweeted till u been called a Taliban-lover :) | Dec 02 19:41 |
MinceR | i haven't tweeted | Dec 02 19:42 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 02 19:42 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: hard to reach you on m-blogs | Dec 02 19:43 |
FurnaceBoy | m-blogs? | Dec 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | cause of your impossible-to-memorise nym | Dec 02 19:43 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: microblogs | Dec 02 19:44 |
schestowitz | statusnet+twitter are the only ones I know/can access | Dec 02 19:44 |
schestowitz | are there more decent-sized ones? | Dec 02 19:44 |
FurnaceBoy | μ-blogs ! | Dec 02 19:45 |
schestowitz | "Like junk food that doesn't even taste good >_>" http://identi.ca/conversation/59074134#notice-59657289 | Dec 02 19:45 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.43 KB | Dec 02 19:45 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes | Dec 02 19:45 |
schestowitz | I don't have this on my keyboard] | Dec 02 19:46 |
FurnaceBoy | unicode | Dec 02 19:46 |
FurnaceBoy | u on linux? | Dec 02 19:46 |
schestowitz | I know | Dec 02 19:46 |
schestowitz | shorthand? | Dec 02 19:46 |
schestowitz | like ctrl+something? | Dec 02 19:46 |
FurnaceBoy | dead keys | Dec 02 19:47 |
FurnaceBoy | i use the Character Map | Dec 02 19:47 |
FurnaceBoy | i need to configure my keyboard to type accents | Dec 02 19:47 |
FurnaceBoy | do it too rarely to bother | Dec 02 19:47 |
*abeNd-org has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Dec 02 19:49 | |
schestowitz | Yeah,I'm too lazy on IRC | Dec 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | In typesetting I have maths panel | Dec 02 19:50 |
FurnaceBoy | character map is handy for gk/latin accents | Dec 02 19:50 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/10419332420993024 "@schestowitz are you referring to the #patent office? If so, congress actually takes money the PTO collects, not the other way around." | Dec 02 19:53 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Patrick Anderson: @schestowitz are you refer ... .::. Size~: 10.02 KB | Dec 02 19:53 |
schestowitz | That's not related to the point I was making. | Dec 02 19:53 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: google is faster sometimes | Dec 02 19:54 |
schestowitz | enter word without accents, get it /with/ them | Dec 02 19:54 |
FurnaceBoy | heh, yeah i've done that. | Dec 02 19:54 |
schestowitz | The usual FUD from the fauxopen source blog http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/69108 | Dec 02 19:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Open Source Exposed: The Linux Desktop Revolution is Dead | Network World .::. Size~: 84.78 KB | Dec 02 19:59 |
schestowitz | And the usual sources of FUD | Dec 02 19:59 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 02 19:59 |
schestowitz | Baiting | Dec 02 19:59 |
schestowitz | "dead"/"kill"/etc | Dec 02 20:00 |
MinceR | also, false dichotomy | Dec 02 20:07 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Pandersonpllc/status/10421632124329984 "in that case I missed your point" :/ | Dec 02 20:18 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Patrick Anderson: @schestowitz in that case ... .::. Size~: 9.76 KB | Dec 02 20:18 |
schestowitz | Lawyer... patent lawyer | Dec 02 20:18 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/us-general-services-administration-is.html | Dec 02 21:12 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Official Google Blog: U.S. General Services Administration is going Google .::. Size~: 54 KB | Dec 02 21:12 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: proprietary to proprietary | Dec 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Now they get no access to the binaries, either | Dec 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Unless Google is Govt. is Google | Dec 02 21:14 |
schestowitz | Is there room for an !Ubuntu ☛ powered smart-phone? http://is.gd/i6WBD why not rely on #meego ☛ for example? We already have !linux ☛ on phones. | Dec 02 21:57 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Blogger: Page not found .::. Size~: 3.67 KB | Dec 02 21:57 |
schestowitz | I wanna use meego on something.... | Dec 02 21:58 |
schestowitz | AMD | Dec 02 21:58 |
schestowitz | or ARM | Dec 02 21:58 |
*gnufreex has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Dec 02 22:18 | |
schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/files/2zkvM.ogv Harper advisor calls for assassination of Wikileaks director | Dec 02 22:33 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/ogg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 02 22:33 |
schestowitz | Gosh, I hate this host | Dec 02 22:33 |
schestowitz | I remember how this idiot attacked Chomsky | Dec 02 22:33 |
FurnaceBoy | "Why isn't Chomsky dead already!" | Dec 02 23:11 |
FurnaceBoy | "His ideas endanger countless lives!" | Dec 02 23:11 |
FurnaceBoy | "Support our troops!" | Dec 02 23:11 |
schestowitz | Hehe | Dec 02 23:21 |
schestowitz | "Raise tention" | Dec 02 23:21 |
schestowitz | "Raise tension" | Dec 02 23:21 |
schestowitz | So do the xray scanners ;-) | Dec 02 23:21 |
schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/59668276 "Ubuntu powered smart phone? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" | Dec 02 23:59 |
TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Daniel Devine (ddevine)'s status on Thursday, 02-Dec-10 23:56:31 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.38 KB | Dec 02 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!