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| bruce89 | if Assange was the editor of the Telegraph, he wouldn't be facing this | Dec 09 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | I worry about Bradley more. Unless Assange is extradited. | Dec 09 00:00 |
| bruce89 | of course | Dec 09 00:00 |
| schestowitz | bruce89: unless they framed Telegraph editor | Dec 09 00:00 |
| schestowitz | Fake rape allegations | Dec 09 00:00 |
| schestowitz | bruce89: about rape in Sweden, it's a touchy subject | Dec 09 00:01 |
| bruce89 | didn't seem to cross their minds to do that over the expenses | Dec 09 00:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtc2ma2GEQ | Dec 09 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Goodbye Sweden .::. Size~: 140.2 KB | Dec 09 00:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: also, re unequal application of the law, look at Tom Flanagan here in Canada, who made a death threat live on air. | Dec 09 00:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: if any "little person" did that, they'd already be remanded | Dec 09 00:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | but he'll get off scot-free | Dec 09 00:02 |
| bruce89 | indeed, that is utterly ridiculous | Dec 09 00:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | i don't understand how people can accept this double standard | Dec 09 00:04 |
| bruce89 | you can only shake your head so many times, eventually it falls off | Dec 09 00:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | could they be any more transparent? | Dec 09 00:04 |
| oiaohm | bruce89: I am sorry Editor of major newspapers in the past have been done for sex releated things. | Dec 09 00:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | there is absolutely one rule for the anointed and one for everyone else | Dec 09 00:04 |
| oiaohm | That have magically disappeared | Dec 09 00:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: why sorry? doesn't change the double standard. | Dec 09 00:04 |
| oiaohm | Its not really a double standard. | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes it is. | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | don't be ridiculous. | Dec 09 00:05 |
| bruce89 | I just say stuff, usually it makes no sense | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | do you think Sweden pursues every foreigner on this charge, oiaohm ? | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | self-evidently no. | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | or interpol would be flooded with 'red notices' | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | and they're not. | Dec 09 00:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | plus, they're unevenly acted upon. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| oiaohm | When ever a reporter gets close to something goverments don't want printed they get picked on. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: EXACTLY. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | DOUBLE STANDARDS all over this. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: don't be thick | Dec 09 00:06 |
| oiaohm | I was refering to bruce89 example of double standard. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| bruce89 | of course, when China do it, they moan | Dec 09 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: now do you see ? uneven application of the law. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | we could start talking about David Kelly...... | Dec 09 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Ie if it was a another newsagency it would not happen. FurnaceBoy There is no double standard there. | Dec 09 00:07 |
| oiaohm | General public vs being a reporter there is a double standard. | Dec 09 00:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | huh | Dec 09 00:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | what's being a reporter got to do with anything? | Dec 09 00:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | we are talking about selective and unequal application of the law, of force | Dec 09 00:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | pretty hard to deny | Dec 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | That happens over and over again to reporters who get there hands on stuff the goverments don't want published. | Dec 09 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | of course it does. | Dec 09 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | and non-reporters. | Dec 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | They try to attack there crediblity. | Dec 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough sex charge is common. | Dec 09 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, yes, we know this. | Dec 09 00:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | we didn't wake up under a rock this morning. | Dec 09 00:09 |
| oiaohm | I am trying to remember what USA news paper editor got charged with the same thing. He had not even met the lady. | Dec 09 00:09 |
| oiaohm | FurnaceBoy: non-reporters who get there hands on stuff they should not have the magical problem if just disappearing. | Dec 09 00:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | assange isn't a reporter | Dec 09 00:11 |
| bruce89 | at least there's one thing that is good news | Dec 09 00:11 |
| oiaohm | In the lose sense he is FurnaceBoy | Dec 09 00:11 |
| bruce89 | the Tories aren't anywhere near as bad as the republicans | Dec 09 00:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: ours almost are. | Dec 09 00:11 |
| oiaohm | The public knows he is providing and seeking more information. FurnaceBoy | Dec 09 00:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: things are pretty fracked up here | Dec 09 00:12 |
| bruce89 | FurnaceBoy: ours? | Dec 09 00:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: CA | Dec 09 00:12 |
| oiaohm | So if he just disappears without explaination there will be questions. FurnaceBoy | Dec 09 00:12 |
| bruce89 | ah, I see | Dec 09 00:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: I'm wondering how long i can stay here | Dec 09 00:12 |
| oiaohm | Just like if any other reporter just disappears. | Dec 09 00:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: it turns out that half the population are Palinesque ignorant morons who are finally seizing their chance to take charge | Dec 09 00:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: verrrrrrrrry disturbing | Dec 09 00:12 |
| bruce89 | sounds frightening, I didn't think Canada was like that | Dec 09 00:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: like the Teapartistas they want to throw everything back to the 17th Century | Dec 09 00:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: it's not supposed to be. | Dec 09 00:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: in past decades a liberal society emerged, which is what it's known for. | Dec 09 00:13 |
| bruce89 | unfortunately that sort of neo-$somethingnastyism is all over the place now | Dec 09 00:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: but in past 5 yrs there's been a gradual backlash and it's looking very ugly | Dec 09 00:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: yes. | Dec 09 00:14 |
| bruce89 | I'm looking at UKIP and BNP here | Dec 09 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: it's freaking me out. i didn't come here for this; I fled Howard | Dec 09 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: yeah i keep an eye on UK | Dec 09 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: I follow @NickGriffinMP | Dec 09 00:14 |
| bruce89 | I read an article from the main channel 4 newsreader, he said that ignorance is the weapon of the 21st C | Dec 09 00:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: who tweets like a caricature of himself, sometimes he is just self-parodic. maybe all the time. | Dec 09 00:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: it certainly is. that's what we see here. | Dec 09 00:15 |
| bruce89 | he's unspeakably evil | Dec 09 00:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: that's the dreadful horror of it | Dec 09 00:15 |
| bruce89 | not Jon Snow | Dec 09 00:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | Griffin typifies the problem | Dec 09 00:15 |
| bruce89 | "When I was a child, the great threat to world peace was believed to be Communism. Before that it had been Fascism. Today it is ignorance in an age when theoretically there is more information available at the tap of a button than at any time in history" | Dec 09 00:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Dec 09 00:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | in reality it is ignorance | Dec 09 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | as you say it's so draining to deal with | Dec 09 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | there's no obvious antidote because it's self reinforcing | Dec 09 00:22 |
| bruce89 | not really worth trying | Dec 09 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | "I'm ignorant therefore you have nothing to tell me." | Dec 09 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: I've concluded the same. | Dec 09 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: Palin, Griffin, etc, etc, ad infinitum | Dec 09 00:23 |
| bruce89 | I just vaguely hope it is self-destructive | Dec 09 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | +1 | Dec 09 00:26 |
| bruce89 | probably take the rest of us with them though | Dec 09 00:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes.. because these idiots keep getting into positions of power | Dec 09 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | just happened recently inToronto | Dec 09 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | we got the equivalent of Sarah Palin as mayor | Dec 09 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | plus, most famously, our neo-con Prime Minister | Dec 09 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | who's a pernicious shithead | Dec 09 00:27 |
| bruce89 | yikes | Dec 09 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | if he'd been in power here in 2003, Canada would have joined in Iraq. | Dec 09 00:28 |
| schestowitz | ANd his advisor is violent | Dec 09 00:29 |
| bruce89 | oh dear, that's all I need to hear to decide he's a prat | Dec 09 00:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there is a coterie of neo-con opinion here which knows how to buy votes. | Dec 09 00:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so as the USA goes down the shitter, so Canada (and Australia) eventually follow. | Dec 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Let's see how Paul Chambers from twitter uses the "joke" defence | Dec 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Difference is, Paul was joking | Dec 09 00:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: nothing will happen to Flanagan. | Dec 09 00:29 |
| schestowitz | That Flanagan dude was not | Dec 09 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Just spoke to my cousin in FL and it seems like it's not improving there just yet | Dec 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: did you look into leaving CA? | Dec 09 00:36 |
| schestowitz | You flew to Zurich | Dec 09 00:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes i'm considering all options :/ | Dec 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Did you want to be admin for some Swiss bank? | Dec 09 00:37 |
| schestowitz | I wonder, what if Anonymous picked on banks and not the payment mediators | Dec 09 00:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | @GGMMX osiodhachan | Dec 09 00:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | RT @anhsfoodblog: “@mutemonkey: Sarah Palin attacks Julian Assange's actions as "un-American". How un-Australian of her. | Dec 09 00:38 |
| bruce89 | hah | Dec 09 00:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | the's right though. | Dec 09 00:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | she's* | Dec 09 00:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | American actions are illegal war, torture, rendition, blackmail, corruption, and so on. | Dec 09 00:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | so yes, "exposing the truth with courage" is un-American, in Palin's world. | Dec 09 00:38 |
| bruce89 | it is American truth, that's not allowed | Dec 09 00:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | that bitch has no princples and doesn't even recognise the concept. | Dec 09 00:39 |
| bruce89 | that goes without saying | Dec 09 00:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | imagine her risking her life for something. | Dec 09 00:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'd like to see it. | Dec 09 00:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | then we might find what she's made of. | Dec 09 00:40 |
| bruce89 | if she carries on saying North Korea are their friends, that may happen | Dec 09 00:40 |
| bruce89 | Bush was only a entree | Dec 09 00:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm sure she can see North Korea from her manicurist's rooftop jacuzzi, if she squints. | Dec 09 00:41 |
| bruce89 | I liked "universal healthcare is socialism" | Dec 09 00:41 |
| bruce89 | I think it's more a case of humanity | Dec 09 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, you would, because you're an un-American commie like Assange | Dec 09 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | and me | Dec 09 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | who have actually seen something of the world | Dec 09 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | and read a book | Dec 09 00:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | and pay tax | Dec 09 00:42 |
| bruce89 | well, maybe not | Dec 09 00:42 |
| bruce89 | how very un-Scottish of me | Dec 09 00:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 09 00:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | i hope Scotland hasn't slid as far as Canada | Dec 09 00:43 |
| bruce89 | we don't like tories | Dec 09 00:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | my forebears are Scottish | Dec 09 00:44 |
| bruce89 | I suspect that we'd be more likely to be communist rather than nazi | Dec 09 00:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | I would have said the same of Canada, but fascism is simply entrenching itself. | Dec 09 00:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | Murdoch has to shoulder most of the blame, i think. | Dec 09 00:45 |
| bruce89 | we're more concerned with the snow atm | Dec 09 00:45 |
| bruce89 | ah yes, Murdoch | Dec 09 00:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | his activities over the past 5-odd decades have deliberately helped create these conditions. | Dec 09 00:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's so clear | Dec 09 00:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | has been clear for a long time, but of course, if you're ignorant as a rock you don't know that. | Dec 09 00:46 |
| bruce89 | it is amazing the sorts of lies these papers publish | Dec 09 00:47 |
| bruce89 | and the politicians just ingratiate themselves with them | Dec 09 00:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60033135 "PayPalin is still Palin'sPal, still accepts KKK account and refuses !Wikileaks ☛" | Dec 09 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | meme | Dec 09 00:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://youstayclassy.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/tom-flanagan-ezra-levant/ | Dec 09 00:57 |
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| FurnaceBoy | omg that animation is surreal | Dec 09 00:58 |
| schestowitz | dented | Dec 09 01:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://gawker.com/5709579/ | Dec 09 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | will dent | Dec 09 01:11 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you've read this, right? http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-%E2%80%9Cto-destroy-this-invisible-government%E2%80%9D/# | Dec 09 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Julian Assange and the Computer Conspiracy; “To destroy this invisible government†« zunguzungu .::. Size~: 863.94 KB | Dec 09 01:34 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: not yet] | Dec 09 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: worth reading. | Dec 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Added | Dec 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Not deneted | Dec 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Radicalises Julian | Dec 09 01:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh, yes, in some minds it would. | Dec 09 01:40 |
| schestowitz | I just keep joyfully dentng | Dec 09 02:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 09 02:07 |
| schestowitz | I did nearly 350 dents yesterday | Dec 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz | +same number in twitter | Dec 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz | ~200 responses | Dec 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz | And I also managed to make 6 Techrights posts, go to the gym, so some work coding | Dec 09 02:09 |
| schestowitz | u-blogging is fast | Dec 09 02:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 09 02:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | i find it takes mucho time | Dec 09 02:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | i have to stop | Dec 09 02:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | i was thinking of stopping at 20,000 | Dec 09 02:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | but it passed :/ | Dec 09 02:10 |
| schestowitz | I'm near 30k | Dec 09 02:12 |
| schestowitz | It takes less time than blogging | Dec 09 02:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | well yes. | Dec 09 02:12 |
| bruce89 | I wonder what picoblogging would be like | Dec 09 02:14 |
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| FurnaceBoy | bruce89: lt | Dec 09 02:15 |
| schestowitz | heh | Dec 09 02:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: w? | Dec 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz | t | Dec 09 02:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 09 02:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | f | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ w | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | 02:25:40 up 12 days, 18:00, 1 user, load average: 1.91, 1.62, 1.62 | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | roy pts/0 :0 26Nov10 12days 0.00s 0.01s /usr/bin/kwrited | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: HA! | Dec 09 02:33 |
| schestowitz | "@lutzhorn] Naomi Klein: "Rape is being used [...] in the same way that women's freedom was used to invade Afghanistan." http://ur1.ca/2j24l !wikileaks" | Dec 09 02:33 |
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| FurnaceBoy | yeah, saw that earlier | Dec 09 02:34 |
| schestowitz | That's like you saying it | Dec 09 02:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | i may have rt'd it, not sure | Dec 09 02:34 |
| schestowitz | I'll dent it now | Dec 09 02:34 |
| schestowitz | ok, later here. That's me done for today.. | Dec 09 02:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | nite! | Dec 09 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | that last on Ardin was explosive | Dec 09 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | i saw hints of it earlier | Dec 09 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | but didn't dig | Dec 09 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz definitely see a drop by looking at the trends: http://www.google.com/trends?q=solaris the oracle... http://ff.im/-uTWSP " https://twitter.com/StarSunFlower/status/12699323070423040 | Dec 09 07:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/12783224946167808 "@schestowitz why do you say proprietary? seems based around open source and HTML5" | Dec 09 08:35 |
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| schestowitz | That sounds like how Apple described itself. | Dec 09 08:36 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://identi.ca/conversation/59457115#notice-60053288 | Dec 09 08:45 |
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| schestowitz | "Damned failed Europeans." | Dec 09 08:45 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2010/12/09/zuckerberg-pledges-to-give-majority-of-wealth-to-charity/ | Dec 09 09:29 |
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| schestowitz | Ha | Dec 09 09:29 |
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| schestowitz | Glyn: "true, but it's a step in the right direction, and makes it easier to add to the pressure to follow through" https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/12805660735438849 | Dec 09 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | Well, better to support and serve the likes of Canonical | Dec 09 09:58 |
| schestowitz | Spinning in Asay's defence MHGO | Dec 09 09:58 |
| schestowitz | IMHO | Dec 09 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Speeding Up The !Linux Kernel With Transparent Hugepage Support http://is.gd/iqSej | Dec 09 10:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/12808269122772992 | Dec 09 10:04 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/savejulian/status/12820201028452352 " Lieberman really is a moron. He looks like he's getting old though, so at least we have that. #stupidpoliticians" | Dec 09 11:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adambanksdotcom/status/12819551649533952 ""power" has a positive connotation only as long as it's you who has it <-- even then, only if not socially deprecated?" | Dec 09 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | Indeed. | Dec 09 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Lieberman might need just a history lesson. A lot of them truly believe to be the "good guys", unquestionably. | Dec 09 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | Remember fewt? | Dec 09 12:03 |
| schestowitz | He's in lins**** | Dec 09 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Ha! | Dec 09 12:03 |
| schestowitz | It figures | Dec 09 12:03 |
| schestowitz | the anti-Linux smell | Dec 09 12:03 |
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| schestowitz | Puff Daddy... | Dec 09 13:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/monomanbr/status/12873157903908864 "Sorry for you. Exceedingly happy for #Ubuntu. Go #Mono, Go !!!" | Dec 09 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | Mono Man BR | Dec 09 14:23 |
| MinceR | go mono, go ...to hell | Dec 09 14:23 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.macgasm.net/2010/12/08/smartphone-lawsuits-explained-visually/ | Dec 09 14:45 |
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| schestowitz | Advert for mobbyist | Dec 09 14:45 |
| MinceR | m$ florian? | Dec 09 14:46 |
| schestowitz | anti-foss patents | Dec 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Stlll pushing journos | Dec 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | To pimp his blob [sic] | Dec 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | on Google | Dec 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Very few things in identica are tagged !fsf these days | Dec 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | FSF is kind of low-profile now, like FSFE | Dec 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | A shame... | Dec 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I bet Mac (Asay) would love it | Dec 09 14:49 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: re that Zuckerberg thing, i see /. taggers have discovered 'fuckerberg' and have tagged the article with it. | Dec 09 15:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I SHOULDA PATENTED IT (j/k) | Dec 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 09 15:45 |
| schestowitz | heh | Dec 09 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Yooz jus' jeles | Dec 09 15:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 09 15:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | re: Lieberman, don't bother giving him the benefit of the doubt. | Dec 09 15:47 |
| MinceR | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11954499 | Dec 09 15:47 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ... | Dec 09 15:49 |
| MinceR | i lol'd | Dec 09 15:50 |
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| schestowitz | Heh: | Dec 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | >>> help line | Dec 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | `line' is a function from the file /usr/share/octave/3.2.3/m/plot/line.m | Dec 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: the old people I speak to all hate WIkileaks | Dec 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure if it's cause they read just corporate media | Dec 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I notice a pattern though | Dec 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | They oppose reforming the system and... | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah i know there is a demographic that feels it's somehow offensive | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | centrists | Dec 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | When you ask them why it turns out they don't care about fixing the world cause they are almost deceased | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's part of it | Dec 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | When I say old I mean pension age | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's also a world view that all change must come from within the system | Dec 09 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Not old as in older than me | Dec 09 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | for example, | Dec 09 16:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | i recently had a disagreement with an intelligent progressive on twitter | Dec 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | I was under the impression these people care about their children and grand children, so this baffled me | Dec 09 16:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | who couldn't accept mentally that the 2 party system was a problem | Dec 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | I based this on 3 people I speak to | Dec 09 16:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | his line was, "IN THE REAL WORLD, you have Obama or a Republican. Deal with it." | Dec 09 16:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | They treat anyone who looks for justice as a threat to their status quo | Dec 09 16:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Dec 09 16:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | a system they BELIEVE IN. | Dec 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | And afraid oft he assange type | Dec 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | He's seen as disruptive force... | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | because they believe in the status quo, they also believe the status quo will protect their children, etc. | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | i know | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | i've seen it a million times out there | Dec 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | And anyone else who seems to reform gets this from this age group | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | "I'm conflicted about Wikileaks." | Dec 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Teenagers are the very opposite | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | this is what Clay Shirky wrote. | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | "I'm conflicted." | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | then you a) don't get it b) may be part of the problem. | Dec 09 16:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's the Jon Stewart/Huffington problem. | Dec 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | "IN THE REAL WORLD" | Dec 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | ^dangerous phrase | Dec 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Docile | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's what he wrote, schestowitz | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | In the real world. | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | Jon Stewart: "Stop making all this noise." | Dec 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Real world=slavery, females as objects | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | [ or you might CHANGE something ] | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: YES! | Dec 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Real world=whatever state we're in | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | satisfaction with the status quo; millions being killed | Dec 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Even cannibalism | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | innocent people gunned down, blown up -- "IT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE." | Dec 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Moe the caveman: "in the real world, we must (head)hunt ladies | Dec 09 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | wikileaks is the only actual threat to this system that has arisen | Dec 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | [16:15] <FurnaceBoy> satisfaction with the status quo; millions being killed | Dec 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | But they are on the benefiting side | Dec 09 16:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | it is therefore, as somebody on 4chan wrote, "more important than jesus christ" :) | Dec 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | China leaks=good | Dec 09 16:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | US leaks="triaitor!" | Dec 09 16:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes well it's this kind of self interest at the cost of everyone else that is the hallmark of the US state | Dec 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | It just shows how effective indoctrination has been | Dec 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | This type of indoctrination is clannish/racist | Dec 09 16:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | but it's not even working for them. their state has fallen apart. | Dec 09 16:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | one day the illusion will cease to be | Dec 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | "I apply to myself the same standards I only apply to my group" | Dec 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60076054 "@schestowitz help upvote these reddits: http://is.gd/irFTi don't let the pro-#mono trolls win !ubuntu ☛ !techrights ☛ /cc @bkuhn @rms" | Dec 09 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | Why does he ping people? | Dec 09 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Wait for Mono trolls to claim I have something to do with it........... | Dec 09 16:19 |
| schestowitz | "Vote this article up! The pro-Mono trolls are trying to censor the truth (like they always do on reddit)" | Dec 09 16:20 |
| schestowitz | I did notice this | Dec 09 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Lots of pro-Mono trolls in reddit | Dec 09 16:20 |
| schestowitz | THat's why I never would bother with the site | Dec 09 16:20 |
| schestowitz | Also Novell employees there... | Dec 09 16:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | what you will never hear: "Julian Assange has been radicalised by the actions of the US/global hegemony." | Dec 09 16:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | no, he's a dangerous lunatic | Dec 09 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | unstable | Dec 09 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | irrational | Dec 09 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | _dangerous_ | Dec 09 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | he could rape your daughter | Dec 09 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | do you want that? | Dec 09 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | people like him at large? | Dec 09 16:21 |
| schestowitz | That's what people think | Dec 09 16:22 |
| schestowitz | People who probably go by newspaper | Dec 09 16:22 |
| schestowitz | It's appalling how the opinion in places like WSJ and FT can vary from that of people without the fortune and power | Dec 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | I reckon this is the type of thing I should never mention at work, as though it's something tainted, which it's not | Dec 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | You know how they say wikileaks gives bad name to wikis? | Dec 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | WHat about leaks? | Dec 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | People who 'leak' stuff (bad word) are described as criminal | Dec 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | You can leak corruption evidence about a boss | Dec 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And still, it's you who's bad based on the terminology | Dec 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Cause you're not a truth teller with revalation | Dec 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | You're a whistle BLOWER with a LEAK | Dec 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | SOund like pipe bomb or something | Dec 09 16:24 |
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| FurnaceBoy | leek soup? | Dec 09 16:27 |
| MinceR | nope | Dec 09 16:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: on Julian? | Dec 09 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Or TO Julian? | Dec 09 16:53 |
| MinceR | unrelated to Julian | Dec 09 16:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | take it to the Julian! | Dec 09 16:53 |
| MinceR | on the toilet. | Dec 09 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Man to cut: Stop LEAKING me!!!! | Dec 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | *cat | Dec 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | #theJulian | Dec 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Would be a nice tag | Dec 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | to test twitter trends with | Dec 09 16:54 |
| schestowitz | I reckon we have till the weekend for Assange decoy to be in the news | Dec 09 16:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | decoy? | Dec 09 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Theirs | Dec 09 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Talk about rape | Dec 09 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Not about Texan companies selling kids as sex slaves to Afgan cops | Dec 09 17:03 |
| schestowitz | But about a fake allegation | Dec 09 17:03 |
| schestowitz | Against #theJulian | Dec 09 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | Jane Silber keeps a very low visibility for a CEO. http://is.gd/irYve | Dec 09 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60085577 "schestowitz the Silicon Valley egomaniac CEO phenomenon is not really too representative" | Dec 09 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Richard Fontana (fontana)'s status on Thursday, 09-Dec-10 17:43:18 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.42 KB | Dec 09 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat's fontana | Dec 09 17:58 |
| schestowitz | At Red Hat, the same is true for James, but he does make publicised talk (there's one this week in a press release) | Dec 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/12915672547852289 "#FreeJulian ? Who knows...?" | Dec 09 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://is.gd/irdTL https://twitter.com/quadricode/status/12924168173527040 "@schestowitz the planes symbolize the war, which kills every day. So it's irony." | Dec 09 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | Exactly | Dec 09 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | Brazil plans large GNU/Linux deployment http://is.gd/is7MW #brazil ☛ !gnu ☛ !linux ☛ #freedom ☛ #autonomy ☛ | Dec 09 18:45 |
| schestowitz | YAY! | Dec 09 18:45 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60092665 "I am guessing it is easier for them when the Latin American #FaiF ☛ distributions are so polished." | Dec 09 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | ♻ @everton137 "Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government." US SuprCrt | Dec 09 19:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 09 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah | Dec 09 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | almost self evident, isn't it? | Dec 09 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 09 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't dent much today | Dec 09 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday I dented 337 items! | Dec 09 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I'll never break this record | Dec 09 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | you might. | Dec 09 19:48 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: would be hard | Dec 09 19:52 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: and mercy on the followers :- | Dec 09 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i can imagine if certain events occur you would easily break it :) | Dec 09 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Surprisingly it didn't drive away more than it brought | Dec 09 19:53 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: like flotilla? | Dec 09 19:53 |
| schestowitz | That was purely not a matter of digital speech at stake | Dec 09 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Except the twitter allegations | Dec 09 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Then there's the "bieber effect" in twitter | Dec 09 19:54 |
| schestowitz | blech | Dec 09 19:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | what if assange is extradited/shot/convicted in US | Dec 09 19:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | what's your poison pill plan? :) | Dec 09 19:55 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60095996 | Dec 09 19:55 |
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| FurnaceBoy | yay bot | Dec 09 19:55 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: maybe they can export him to Iraq | Dec 09 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Where people are easier to 'suicide' [verb] | Dec 09 19:55 |
| schestowitz | user://iraqigovernment | Dec 09 19:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/iraqigovernment/status/12952040514781184 | Dec 09 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.iraqigovernment.net/ | Dec 09 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | [20:01] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 266 dents! | Dec 09 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Still leading :-) | Dec 09 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 09 20:12 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: did you see this http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/12/09/1927201 | Dec 09 20:12 |
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| FurnaceBoy | i think ppl are underestimating the power of blackmail | Dec 09 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | -> Lamo, Poulsen | Dec 09 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's very easy for state to threaten such people | Dec 09 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | can make them do anything | Dec 09 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | or, Ardin (not that I am sure this occurred here) | Dec 09 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | though we can be very sure that Lamo is entirely a Fed creature | Dec 09 20:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | whether he wants to be or not | Dec 09 20:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | they could have reached Ardin post-facto | Dec 09 20:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2010/08/26/the-smearing-of-an-innocent-man/ | Dec 09 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | dented | Dec 09 20:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | ...nor stirred! | Dec 09 20:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | not* | Dec 09 20:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/community/windows-dropped-feature-linux-gains | Dec 09 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | "The Smearing of an Innocent man http://is.gd/isnGr old but relevant. #theJulian ☛" | Dec 09 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | And: "Android Users Are More Active Than iPhone 4 Users ? http://is.gd/islFX Apparently, yes. Well, it figures. #Android ☛ !linux ☛ #hypephone ☛" | Dec 09 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Android Users Are More Active Than iPhone 4 Users ? | Muktware .::. Size~: 30.7 KB | Dec 09 20:30 |
| schestowitz | "@richardsmedley: Hope interesting #Wikileaks activities of Anonymous group don't mistakenly lead to problems for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_4 :-) " | Dec 09 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | AH | Dec 09 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Aziza Sami from Egypt, a former journalist, cited me a lot this week | Dec 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | "@lightweight It *has* to represent a turning point, cuz where we were going [status quo] is pure #fail" https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/12968507159355392 | Dec 09 20:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / SrinivasaKettenbruch: @schestowitz @lightweight ... .::. Size~: 13.17 KB | Dec 09 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I lacks some context | Dec 09 20:44 |
| schestowitz | But... | Dec 09 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes think replies too are read by other people | Dec 09 20:44 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes tags add context | Dec 09 20:45 |
| schestowitz | but nm | Dec 09 20:45 |
| schestowitz | I lost context there... | Dec 09 20:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/02/schneiers-modest-pro.html Schneier's modest proposal: Close the Washington monument! | Dec 09 21:04 |
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| schestowitz | Just got this by mail: | Dec 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.infowars.com/anonymous-running-attacks-on-anti-wikileaks-sites-with-low-orbit-ion-cannon/ | Dec 09 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | > http://cryptogon.com/?p=19204 | Dec 09 21:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: cryptogon.com » Anonymous Running Attacks on Anti-Wikileaks Sites with Low Orbit Ion Cannon .::. Size~: 13.84 KB | Dec 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | > Anonymous is using a C# program to ddos people. Worth using in the | Dec 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | > crusade against Mono/C# | Dec 09 21:33 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/60102884 "obvious dent it obvious. when was the last time he said "Ya know, I guess the government suppressing free press is GOOD here."" | Dec 09 21:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Danny (tekk)'s status on Thursday, 09-Dec-10 21:31:02 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.28 KB | Dec 09 21:34 |
| schestowitz | What a FAKE slap: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/12/apple-piles-more-patents-on-motodroid-infringement-suit.ars | Dec 09 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | lousy job | Dec 09 21:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/richslxh/status/12985071887712256 "How exactly? Girl scout cookie give-aways? Maybe a neck beard trimming protest? The EFF is anti-DDOS therefor anti-action" | Dec 09 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / rich scadding: @schestowitz How exactly? ... .::. Size~: 13.02 KB | Dec 09 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Radical methods... | Dec 09 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Some people advocate DDOS | Dec 09 21:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | "in the real world," getting up and marching in the street is the only option, but you might get arrested. | Dec 09 22:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | or beaten up. | Dec 09 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Ha | Dec 09 22:12 |
| schestowitz | I think online protest is OK | Dec 09 22:13 |
| schestowitz | No DDOS needed | Dec 09 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Just info | Dec 09 22:13 |
| schestowitz | The Pen is Mighty | Dec 09 22:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | most ppl get this ddos thing all wrong. | Dec 09 22:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's the real problem, is that they are getting false messages | Dec 09 22:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | as I tweeted | Dec 09 22:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | Anonymous will forget about WL very quickly and move on to something else. | Dec 09 22:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | they're not really political | Dec 09 22:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | most of them are just bored American kids who just like attention | Dec 09 22:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | and to feel powerful | Dec 09 22:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | (which is the psychosis their culture breeds) | Dec 09 22:15 |
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| FurnaceBoy | it's all harmless in reality, neither helps WL nor harms the targets | Dec 09 22:16 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ppl will say blowback harms WL, well maybe, but only among centrists who never get WL anyway | Dec 09 22:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's not -for- them | Dec 09 22:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | the greatest users of WL will be journalists and authors | Dec 09 22:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | the Guardian has it exactly right | Dec 09 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Treue | Dec 09 22:23 |
| schestowitz | True | Dec 09 22:23 |
| schestowitz | see "so we should self-censor and sit back like good kids, otherwise censors and spinners will spin what we do against us?" https://identi.ca/notice/60105499 | Dec 09 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 09-Dec-10 22:17:43 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.44 KB | Dec 09 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Shocking seeing a rhat employee endorsing ddos on the record | Dec 09 22:24 |
| MinceR | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Indian-envoy-Meera-Shankar-patted-down-in-US/articleshow/7073606.cms | Dec 09 22:24 |
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| FurnaceBoy | i think ddos is beside the point entirely. | Dec 09 22:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | which means opinions on it are too, really. | Dec 09 22:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's like the 'rape' | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60105022 "how's that different from a demonstration that ends up impeding traffic on a busy street?" | Dec 09 22:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 09-Dec-10 22:09:57 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.38 KB | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | "let's talk about ddos instead of..." | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yeah | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | But we focus now | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Julian is detained | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | LOL @ IMPEDING TRAFFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | I think the leaks come out fast, processed | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | jesus H. C. | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | More volunteers | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | 5000 cables by now I heard | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: gotta get them out. | Dec 09 22:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | wow! | Dec 09 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Too fast | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Media can't digest | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | But...... | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | They got time :_) | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | And we have bloggers w/ access to it too | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | AND tagging | Dec 09 22:26 |
| MinceR | Jesus HardCore? | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | And search | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Jesus hardon | Dec 09 22:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | but IMPEDING TRAFFIC.................... | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I have seen a video joke about it... | Dec 09 22:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Poor people | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Late for work | Dec 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Less wage | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | i heard Charles was 'impeded' | Dec 09 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Disaster!!! | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | off with his head! | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | Charles should be out there protesting. | Dec 09 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | what a useless fuck. | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's a PR opportunity for him. | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | he could single-handedly make the monarchy relevant | Dec 09 22:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | mind you, i haven't checked his views on this, have you? | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Nope | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Shady ones | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Literally too | Dec 09 22:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah, if he's saying nothing, that's bad | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Obah!ma too | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Nothing abt WKL | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Nothing abt WL | Dec 09 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Joseph Mc..Go...Lieberman does that | Dec 09 22:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | Lieberman calculates that he has nothing to lose. | Dec 09 22:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | but there will be some who won't speak. | Dec 09 22:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's all math | Dec 09 22:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | the new politics | Dec 09 22:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | 0 principle, 100% math | Dec 09 22:29 |
| schestowitz | He's nearly retired | Dec 09 22:30 |
| schestowitz | So he's expandable to th Democrats | Dec 09 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Google Chrome OS: what you need to know http://is.gd/isCO1 #chromeos ☛ !linux ☛ | Dec 09 22:33 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 09 22:33 |
| schestowitz | schestowitz - 32 mins ago - Choqok | Dec 09 22:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Google Chrome OS: what you need to know | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 76.29 KB | Dec 09 22:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a temporary nightmare. need to keep it in perspective. | Dec 09 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i have a vps that crashes every day. | Dec 09 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: #FirstWorldProblems :) | Dec 09 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: won't affect your email if you're on gmail. | Dec 09 22:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if your site is down for a few hours... big deal... Anonymous will move on | Dec 09 22:40 |
| schestowitz | It's still a problem | Dec 09 22:47 |
| schestowitz | And thread from hoster | Dec 09 22:48 |
| schestowitz | *threat | Dec 09 22:48 |
| schestowitz | We had to moved off our previous host due to DDOS that lasted days | Dec 09 22:48 |
| schestowitz | BTW.... | Dec 09 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Remember my headache the other month? | Dec 09 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Seems to have been related to caffeine | Dec 09 22:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah but how long did it last? | Dec 09 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Lasted half a day | Dec 09 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I got sleep | Dec 09 22:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | eh i thought u meant ddos headache. | Dec 09 22:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes caffeine will cause headaches | Dec 09 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Dec 09 22:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | either not enough or too much | Dec 09 22:51 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: lack of sleep did | Dec 09 22:51 |
| schestowitz | I sort of broke a record by going one week with 3-4 hours/night | Dec 09 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Usually I sleep 6 | Dec 09 22:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | ouch | Dec 09 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | even 6 isn't enough for me. | Dec 09 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Body was OK, unless the side effect (headache) kicked in. I tried it a few times this summer too | Dec 09 22:52 |
| schestowitz | My boss could sleep like 2 some nights | Dec 09 22:52 |
| schestowitz | But he's over 60 | Dec 09 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Supposed to be easy | Dec 09 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah i think i need slightly less now | Dec 09 23:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | maybe 1 hr less | Dec 09 23:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | middle age! | Dec 09 23:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/59508575#notice-60107304 "@schestowitz Not to mention that a DDOS can bump you over your allowed monthly bandwidth and result in hefty fees." | Dec 09 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.97 KB | Dec 09 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I got that too | Dec 09 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm having a look at trmanco's bot. | Dec 09 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | had to do a bunch of software installations/upgrades to get it checked out and runnable. | Dec 09 23:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | where would we be without open source and the net :) | Dec 09 23:08 |
| schestowitz | We can't tell | Dec 09 23:13 |
| schestowitz | THe Internet has only one deployment | Dec 09 23:13 |
| schestowitz | And this is the only planet that's known to have one ;-) | Dec 09 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | even my mom is on the net.. via dialup | Dec 09 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, but IS HE ON MARK'S DB?!?!?!! >: WHY SO ANGRY!! | Dec 09 23:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: haha, the wikileaks comment echoes mine. | Dec 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Dec 09 23:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | "neither applaud nor condemn" | Dec 09 23:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | (cuz it doesn't matter) | Dec 09 23:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hehe did u see the lady tell me to get a Facebook account "so I could read things"? | Dec 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | just got mail from a Manc mailing list: | Dec 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: typical | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Snoop on people | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | BlackmailPage first | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | "Give us your data" | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Get snoops in return | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | The pyramid scheme of one's privacy | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | ANyway: | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > Writing as a non hacker (in the proper sense of the word, I don't know | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > any markup lang - and I know the difference between a hacker, a cracker, | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > and a hacktivist): | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > I find the US governments response to this appalling, though expected. | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > It is concerning to me that most of the media (and the courts) are not | Dec 09 23:30 |
| schestowitz | > looking at what has been released, for instance, if Clinton knowingly | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > sent diplomats into the UN as spies to collect DNA, passwords, etc | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > (which looks like what happened, the only question is whether she knew | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > about it) then charges should be brought against her. Instead they are | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > focused on calling an Australian citizen 'un-american' and a terrorist | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > (instead of a journalist). Everything I have read so far from cablegate, | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > suggests a full investigation into US foreign policy, at the least | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > (along with the cheeky bits that are just kind of a laugh). | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > The withdrawal of services from companies claiming TOS violations seems | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > so transparently false (no charges have been made in this matter | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > therefore nothing illegal has happened on Wikileaks' part) that they | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > should liable to a lawsuit for not living up to their own TOS... seems a | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > violation of contract may be in order (though I am no lawyer so this is | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > more an armchair pundit response to be fair). | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > As for 4chan, Anonymous or Operation Payback, and others response of | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > what is, well, payback for the US government doing essentially the same | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > thing.... all I can 'say' is its exactly what should happen.. whether I | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > condone the actions or not, one can't expect to shut down information | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > exchange illegally without expecting others to do the same in turn. | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > I could probably go on and on.. though it seems like a better discussion | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | > in a pub rather than e-mail. | Dec 09 23:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWd-pgiU4Co | Dec 09 23:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal 'Profound Hatred for Democracy' by U.S. Govt Officials 1 of 3 .::. Size~: 128.06 KB | Dec 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/60109941 "@schestowitz is NOT a troll, you are!" | Dec 09 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Thursday, 09-Dec-10 23:39:43 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.44 KB | Dec 09 23:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and finally.... http://twitter.com/#!/marketmentat/status/13017944493654017 | Dec 09 23:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.01 KB | Dec 09 23:55 |
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