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| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 10 00:06 |
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| schestowitz | But too political for me | Dec 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | And tough photo | Dec 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | @azuthian I wouldn't bother that much with Reddit because it's filled with Novell staff, who defames me to incite others http://is.gd/isSzV | Dec 10 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Reddit Accommodated by Mono Boosters, Including Novell Employees | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.19 KB | Dec 10 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Bastards from Novell roam reddit and attack opposition to Mono | Dec 10 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, only forwarding for you. | Dec 10 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you remember that guy who video'd the army office | Dec 10 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and that pink thug came out with a photocopy | Dec 10 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: saying "This is why we are there" | Dec 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | A company with 4000 people outnumbers Techrights | Dec 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | The funniest thing is this: | Dec 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | FUD pattern goes like "Roy is possessed with <company>" | Dec 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Usually Microsoft | Dec 10 00:08 |
| schestowitz | And then playing in reverse | Dec 10 00:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | obsessed? | Dec 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | Comparing it to trolls who are obssessed with me | Dec 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | As if one person can be equated to a company worth hundreds of billion | Dec 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | It's a propaganda line nontheless | Dec 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | And some people are foolish enough to fall for it | Dec 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | OK, wel... | Dec 10 00:09 |
| schestowitz | I'll go with an example | Dec 10 00:10 |
| schestowitz | "Toby is obsessed with BP... what a loser. Look at BP not obsessing over Toby" | Dec 10 00:10 |
| schestowitz | OR: | Dec 10 00:10 |
| schestowitz | "We can harass Toby cause he aggravates BP" | Dec 10 00:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | ha | Dec 10 00:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Dec 10 00:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | well nonconformity is always a crime to some people | Dec 10 00:15 |
| schestowitz | [00:03] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [lxoliva/@lxoliva] @laurelrusswurm DDoS *are* peaceful. | Dec 10 00:16 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 10 00:16 |
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| FurnaceBoy | relatively speaking, it's true. | Dec 10 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 10 00:16 |
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| FurnaceBoy | sebsebseb: hi | Dec 10 00:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: looking at bot src | Dec 10 00:41 |
| sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: hi | Dec 10 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | uh | Dec 10 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | some sillyness in techrights just now | Dec 10 00:49 |
| sebsebseb | :( | Dec 10 00:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | orly | Dec 10 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: yeah | Dec 10 00:57 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: my source is modified | Dec 10 00:58 |
| schestowitz | So to fix the issue I need just a patch to merg | Dec 10 00:58 |
| schestowitz | *merge | Dec 10 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: maybe I should unsubscribe to a few people on identica | Dec 10 00:59 |
| schestowitz | It's up to you | Dec 10 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I know | Dec 10 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | not you :), but ThisleWeb for example possibily | Dec 10 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | and some others | Dec 10 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | subscribed to to many people and groups, and yeah like I was saying, the personal section on there, can only do about one day | Dec 10 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | instead of 3 or whatever | Dec 10 01:00 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and I think i am one of these people who would want really, most of the people I am subscribed to, to also be subscribed to me :) | Dec 10 01:01 |
| schestowitz | That can happen over time | Dec 10 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: to be honest I even subscribed to a few people who I don't really have much of an idea, who they are even | Dec 10 01:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | well that's usual | Dec 10 01:13 |
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| FurnaceBoy | you listen for a while, if you don't like em, un-follow | Dec 10 01:57 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/12/08/2010-12-08_seemona_sumasar_spent_months_behind_bars_after_ex_orchestrated_elaborate_frameup.html | Dec 10 04:00 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Seemona Sumasar spent months behind bars after ex orchestrated elaborate frame-up to silence her .::. Size~: 48.99 KB | Dec 10 04:00 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: okay first phase of bot cleanup is done... | Dec 10 05:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i found several bugs | Dec 10 05:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and i can see a few more unimportant ones | Dec 10 05:04 |
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| oiaohm | FurnaceBoy: Nice have you by chance found the bug that causes to to quote a line said at random. | Dec 10 06:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | possibly | Dec 10 06:45 |
| oiaohm | I hope by luck you have. | Dec 10 06:45 |
| oiaohm | Its it most annoying bug. | Dec 10 06:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, there are some cases where it sees false positives in some conditions | Dec 10 06:45 |
| oiaohm | I will cross my fingers. | Dec 10 06:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | can you say exactly what happens | Dec 10 06:46 |
| oiaohm | Its very random. It solves a link if you happen to type a line quick after the bot goes and prints that as well. | Dec 10 06:47 |
| oiaohm | Most likely a state not clear. FurnaceBoy | Dec 10 06:48 |
| oiaohm | or false postive of some form. | Dec 10 06:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | hm i saw something similar. | Dec 10 06:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | not sure if i have fixed this specific one | Dec 10 06:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | anyway i'm still looking at it | Dec 10 06:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | i don't know if trmanco will accept a patch that special-cases twitter :) | Dec 10 06:49 |
| oiaohm | I can live in hope. | Dec 10 06:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 10 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: thanks. Just remember I had already hacked on it | Dec 10 07:56 |
| schestowitz | So getting the diffs would be best. | Dec 10 07:56 |
| schestowitz | Like a twitter patch | Dec 10 07:56 |
| schestowitz | THis reminds me to post about my latest coding......... | Dec 10 07:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/10/contour-cardiac/ | Dec 10 08:00 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Heart Image Contouring .::. Size~: 32.19 KB | Dec 10 08:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/09/gnu-octave-and-gimp/comment-page-1/#comment-30329 | Dec 10 08:09 |
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| schestowitz | RT @timbray There are over 300,000 Android phones activated each day. (via @Arubin) < that's a lot of !linux ☛ | Dec 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | schestowitz - 8 mins ago - Choqok | Dec 10 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Canonical Hiring More Kernel Developers http://is.gd/iu9Ny "Canonical has 400 employees right now." !ubuntu ☛ #canonical ☛ | Dec 10 09:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Canonical Hiring More Kernel Developers | Ubuntu Forecast .::. Size~: 28.65 KB | Dec 10 09:39 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Dec 10 09:39 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/2010/12/06/10-cg-shorts-you-must-see/ These are nice | Dec 10 09:48 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 10 CG Shorts You Must See | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 48.88 KB | Dec 10 09:48 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Dec 10 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | Mono trolls are angry again | Dec 10 11:52 |
| schestowitz | ANd they start throwing false accusations over someone whom I don't know at all | Dec 10 11:52 |
| oiaohm | They cannot except the fact the mono haters are generated inside there own camp. | Dec 10 11:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/09/rundle-r-pe-case-complainant-has-left-sweden-may-have-ceased-co-operating/ | Dec 10 11:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Julian Assange rape case: complainant Anna Ardin might not co-operate with police. | Crikey .::. Size~: 115.56 KB | Dec 10 11:59 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they come from c# background | Dec 10 11:59 |
| schestowitz | some are | Dec 10 11:59 |
| schestowitz | Some decide to study it as they go along | Dec 10 11:59 |
| schestowitz | WHich gives Microsoft control over coding | Dec 10 11:59 |
| oiaohm | And the haters come out of those who have issues with C# and .net | Dec 10 12:06 |
| schestowitz | It's techniclaly problematic too | Dec 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Not that Java is great | Dec 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | And people do point this out | Dec 10 12:12 |
| schestowitz | You know why? I think cause of mobile devices | Dec 10 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Phones and small smartbooks | Dec 10 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Suddenly we need to go very light again | Dec 10 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Not the race to the top, but to the bottom | Dec 10 12:12 |
| oiaohm | Mobile devices are the new growth zone. | Dec 10 12:24 |
| MinceR | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16070765/full_I_am_your_Father.png | Dec 10 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 10 12:26 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: not new | Dec 10 12:37 |
| schestowitz | But some devices are | Dec 10 12:37 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: heh. dented. | Dec 10 12:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I should have been more explaining. Mobile devices is the new growth zone in types of devices. | Dec 10 12:39 |
| schestowitz | :-) Yes! | Dec 10 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Good for Linux | Dec 10 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Great even | Dec 10 12:40 |
| schestowitz | LF contribs reflect on that | Dec 10 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Android has released the hardware markers from the OS cost and design limitations. | Dec 10 12:41 |
| MinceR | giving them new design limitations instead | Dec 10 12:41 |
| MinceR | due to a shortsighted java-only design | Dec 10 12:41 |
| oiaohm | many people are not aware to have windows mobile on a phone require having particular buttons at particular places on the case. | Dec 10 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Meego will open up what hardware makers can do more as well MinceR | Dec 10 12:42 |
| MinceR | it also requires a certain lack of clue, especially since kin7 came out. | Dec 10 12:42 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: if MeeGo succeeds, that is. | Dec 10 12:42 |
| MinceR | afaik only one manufacturer is pushing MeeGo on ARM. | Dec 10 12:42 |
| MinceR | (maybe two, but the other's not a big player) | Dec 10 12:43 |
| oiaohm | Reason why all kin phones were impractal to use was MS screwed up locations of buttons so you almost could not handle one without pushing a button doing something. | Dec 10 12:43 |
| MinceR | i thought it was because they combined winmob's brokenness and unreliability with a newly invented scarcity of features | Dec 10 12:43 |
| oiaohm | When you cannot handle the thing without bumping something. | Dec 10 12:44 |
| oiaohm | You increase the odds that you will set off windows brokenness more often. | Dec 10 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Meego is alreadly in some in car naivagion systems. MinceR | Dec 10 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Yes the real over sized moblie phone. | Dec 10 12:45 |
| MinceR | that won't guarantee success on phones | Dec 10 12:45 |
| oiaohm | It will help. | Dec 10 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Ie same os as in car only 1 OS to learn. | Dec 10 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Human nature for simpler. | Dec 10 12:46 |
| oiaohm | https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/12/10/38 Now this appears only to have a practical usage to debug with. | Dec 10 12:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60167559 "TSA subjects India's US ambassador to public grope b/c of her sari http://is.gd/iuItX and #wikileaks ☛ harms diplomacy? via @schestowitz" | Dec 10 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Daniel Schweighöfer (acid)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-10 13:08:49 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.38 KB | Dec 10 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TSA subjects India's US ambassador to public grope because of her sari - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 82.85 KB | Dec 10 13:15 |
| schestowitz | re RMS: "visionary, as ever..." https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/13219893482627072 | Dec 10 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Glyn Moody: @schestowitz visionary, as ... .::. Size~: 12.84 KB | Dec 10 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60168731 " oh, I'm glad to know I misunderstood what @psi36 said. #freespeech ☛ !ftw ☛" | Dec 10 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Daniel Aguayo Catalán (danto)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-10 13:20:00 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.07 KB | Dec 10 13:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Kazarelth/status/13212641912688640 "Wasn't that the starting point of the Fidel "Castrato" jokes? @angadc" | Dec 10 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Kaushik Narasimhan: @schestowitz Wasn't that t ... .::. Size~: 13 KB | Dec 10 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/madcap_loon/status/13213264737476608 "How many people know that IPs from the US military/intelligence defaced WIkipedia to imply that Fidel Casto was transsexual?" | Dec 10 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Atanu Datta: RT @schestowitz How many p ... .::. Size~: 9.82 KB | Dec 10 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/13211759892496385 " I'd be afraid of space aliens too" | Dec 10 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Brandon Lozza: @schestowitz I'd be afraid ... .::. Size~: 12.94 KB | Dec 10 13:32 |
| schestowitz | LOL brando... | Dec 10 13:32 |
| schestowitz | LOL brandon... | Dec 10 13:32 |
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| MinceR | lol, .net doesn't even support http DELETE | Dec 10 13:56 |
| schestowitz | ASP DELETE | Dec 10 13:56 |
| schestowitz | -> | Dec 10 13:56 |
| schestowitz | DELETE ASAP1 | Dec 10 13:56 |
| schestowitz | !! | Dec 10 13:56 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 10 13:56 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60170281 "@schestowitz have you seen this? http://is.gd/iuOoS /cc @jonobacon" | Dec 10 14:00 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-10 13:35:51 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.8 KB | Dec 10 14:00 |
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| schestowitz | Mono bullies incite Canonical against me | Dec 10 14:01 |
| schestowitz | As usual | Dec 10 14:01 |
| MinceR | well, canonical is their ally after all | Dec 10 14:01 |
| schestowitz | I won't even respond to it | Dec 10 14:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: well, it employs some of them now | Dec 10 14:01 |
| MinceR | and it's been pushing mono into the base system for a while now | Dec 10 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Kernel Log: An analysis of Linux kernel development http://is.gd/iuRkx !linux ☛ #freesoftware ☛ !fs ☛ | Dec 10 14:03 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: in way | Dec 10 14:03 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: in a way | Dec 10 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I noticed that Lins*** troll do this too | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | One of them bragged about it | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Days ago | Dec 10 14:04 |
| MinceR | in a slower, more cautious, more insidious way than novell did | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | It's like a bunch trying to rubbish the system | Dec 10 14:04 |
| MinceR | what do the trolls do? | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | nm | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Long story | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Someone thanking me | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | But also being malicious | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | was fewt here some time ago? | Dec 10 14:04 |
| schestowitz | I confuse him with someone else | Dec 10 14:05 |
| schestowitz | I think | Dec 10 14:05 |
| schestowitz | All sorts of nicks | Dec 10 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Or Linux-hostile folks | Dec 10 14:05 |
| MinceR | i don't remember that nick | Dec 10 14:05 |
| MinceR | except that you've mentioned it before | Dec 10 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 10 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, they ruin the forums | Dec 10 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Inc. Reddit | Dec 10 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Novell staff and trolls | Dec 10 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Pollution | Dec 10 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Playing 'diplomatic' to take their rivals down | Dec 10 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Problem is, people like jono fall for it | Dec 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft UK pulls those tricks on hm too | Dec 10 14:08 |
| schestowitz | They keep in touch w/ him | Dec 10 14:08 |
| MinceR | jono is playing 'diplomatic' -- and in the end manages to say absolutely nothing about anything to anyone. | Dec 10 14:09 |
| MinceR | just a distraction | Dec 10 14:09 |
| schestowitz | No | Dec 10 14:13 |
| schestowitz | He dodges backlash | Dec 10 14:13 |
| schestowitz | I understand why | Dec 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | THink about what he got (flak) for open-respect | Dec 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Which was well intended from his POV | Dec 10 14:14 |
| MinceR | yes, he dodges everything | Dec 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | I'd not put the blame on jono | Dec 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | For him, inaction is the main trouble | Dec 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | DOn't target him | Dec 10 14:14 |
| MinceR | i'm not blaming him, i'm saying that talking to him seems to have little effect or point, if any | Dec 10 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Some people have, and even cursed him in IRC | Dec 10 14:15 |
| MinceR | i'm not targetting him, but i'm targetting his employer | Dec 10 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 10 14:15 |
| schestowitz | But he's smaller fish there | Dec 10 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Speak to MarkS | Dec 10 14:15 |
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| schestowitz | "mono ☛ apologists on OMG!Ubuntu attempt to boost mono: http://is.gd/iuXLq !ubuntu ☛ !techrights ☛" https://identi.ca/notice/60175447 | Dec 10 14:46 |
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| gnufreex | That OMGbuntu is Microsoft booster site, much like Ubuntu Forums. | Dec 10 15:31 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60180394 "@jeffcutsinger yes, #mono ☛ is like a religion to mono zealots. as @schestowitz says, it is like scientology." | Dec 10 15:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-10 15:31:05 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.6 KB | Dec 10 15:33 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: Microsoft? | Dec 10 15:34 |
| schestowitz | I don't think so | Dec 10 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Stretch | Dec 10 15:34 |
| schestowitz | It makes Linux look sexy a lot of the time | Dec 10 15:34 |
| schestowitz | GUI screenshots and all | Dec 10 15:34 |
| schestowitz | You could say it increases OS X allure | Dec 10 15:34 |
| schestowitz | The Mono issue withstanding | Dec 10 15:34 |
| MinceR | mono is m$ | Dec 10 15:35 |
| MinceR | they pimp mono all the time | Dec 10 15:35 |
| MinceR | and omgubuntu has smeared free software advocates at least once, iirc | Dec 10 15:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: does it smear the FSF | Dec 10 15:38 |
| schestowitz | I don't think it ever has | Dec 10 15:38 |
| schestowitz | It just ignores FSF and freedom | Dec 10 15:38 |
| schestowitz | But it's not as bad as bashing them | Dec 10 15:38 |
| gnufreex | Look at comments, all same mono boosters like on UF. Also attacking people and pretending to be nice. Calling people uneducated trolls(tm) because they don't like Mono or Microsoft. | Dec 10 15:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/dude-youre-a-35-year-old-with-a-neck-beard/ | Dec 10 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Dude, youre a 35 year old with a neck beard .::. Size~: 37.49 KB | Dec 10 15:39 |
| gnufreex | When some give them some of their own medicine, it gets moderated. | Dec 10 15:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oh, right... | Dec 10 15:41 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: deleted you mean? | Dec 10 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Don't say moderated | Dec 10 15:42 |
| gnufreex | Deleted and put on moderation, so every post is revewed. Loot of people complained bout such treatment on UF and on OMGbuntu. | Dec 10 15:42 |
| schestowitz | Blech | Dec 10 15:45 |
| schestowitz | No wonder I'm sceptical about them | Dec 10 15:45 |
| schestowitz | But I didn't know they deleted comments | Dec 10 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Hiding them is safe effect | Dec 10 15:45 |
| schestowitz | The other words euphmise it | Dec 10 15:45 |
| schestowitz | *emise | Dec 10 15:45 |
| gnufreex | That's what is jono's OpenRespect about. The Zealots(tm) need to be respectful to trolls, while pro-Mono trolls can throw any kind of insults. And if you stay calm even to that, and show undisputable arguments, then you get called extremist and insulted even more. It is just a way to say that Free Software people are unvelcome to Ubuntu, they need sheep that accepts (and pays for) any propriatary crap as long it is blessed | Dec 10 15:50 |
| MinceR | certainly seems so | Dec 10 15:50 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... good point | Dec 10 15:50 |
| schestowitz | I hate entryism is general | Dec 10 15:54 |
| schestowitz | People "schmoozing" (the word Microsoft uses) the opposition, then trying to divide it | Dec 10 15:55 |
| schestowitz | "Don't listen to him, he's a zealot" | Dec 10 15:55 |
| schestowitz | And "she's too pragmatic, toss her out" | Dec 10 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Remember Gates' letter to hobbyists | Dec 10 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Kicking them out of clubs and all | Dec 10 15:55 |
| schestowitz | One heck of a bully in a sweater | Dec 10 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Taught by the PR industry how to talk and behave to hide the thug he is | Dec 10 15:56 |
| gnufreex | Team Apologista have already infiltrated in Ubuntu community, both on advocacy and development level. And I mean hard core Microsoft trolls, posibly paid or work for MS shops. Also, Canonical is hiring some of those. Time for boycottbuntu is coming. | Dec 10 15:58 |
| MinceR | boycottcanonical is a better analogy | Dec 10 15:58 |
| gnufreex | That is a problem... Canonical might compete for Microsoft against Red Hat becuase they are in that "Microsoft is not an enemy" mindset. Same as de Icaza. So Microsoft will not sue them for Mono, until the screw Free Software ecosystem badly. | Dec 10 16:05 |
| gnufreex | Like C# kerenel modules or Mono desktop enviorment... or something. | Dec 10 16:06 |
| MinceR | same thing as novell | Dec 10 16:06 |
| MinceR | the community needs to boycott novell2.0 just like we boycotted novell | Dec 10 16:06 |
| gnufreex | canonical is more dangerous because they have fanboys. And it is easy to manipulate by army of fanboys. | Dec 10 16:07 |
| gnufreex | Everybody hated novell | Dec 10 16:07 |
| MinceR | not sure about that | Dec 10 16:07 |
| MinceR | iirc we had mono trolls before canonical started pushing mono | Dec 10 16:08 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, but they were not making any progres. | Dec 10 16:08 |
| MinceR | hopefully neither will canonical | Dec 10 16:08 |
| MinceR | they must be exposed for what they do | Dec 10 16:08 |
| gnufreex | If shutleworth starts praising Mono, it will be iffy. | Dec 10 16:09 |
| gnufreex | Treason never succeds, what's the reason? Because when it suceds, nobody dares call it treason. | Dec 10 16:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 10 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Dec 09 15:51 | Dec 10 16:14 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] is impeding (DDoS) !wikileaks co-censors' businesses like standing before tanks at Tian'anmen Sq? latter was illegal. discuss | Dec 10 16:14 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: treason means nothing | Dec 10 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Adversity to norm, i.e. another opinion | Dec 10 16:14 |
| gnufreex | You could put it that way... if oversimplified | Dec 10 16:16 |
| schestowitz | True | Dec 10 16:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: pm | Dec 10 16:46 |
| schestowitz | hey | Dec 10 16:46 |
| schestowitz | what's up? | Dec 10 16:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't PM | Dec 10 16:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: do you have ANY encrypted means of chat. | Dec 10 16:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: skype or gpg key. | Dec 10 16:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm sick of being unable to reach you encrypted. | Dec 10 16:47 |
| schestowitz | I have pgp | Dec 10 16:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok can you email me your public key | Dec 10 16:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | or, is it on your site? | Dec 10 16:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | you need to set up encrypted channels | Dec 10 16:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schestowitz.com/PGP/ | Dec 10 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm... | Dec 10 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I just fell for typosquatter on my own domain | Dec 10 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I first noticed them in 2005 | Dec 10 16:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | .com? | Dec 10 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Can't recall | Dec 10 16:48 |
| schestowitz | It redirected | Dec 10 16:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i don't think what you have under Copy & Paste is a public key. | Dec 10 16:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but, i imported from the keyserver | Dec 10 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Cool | Dec 10 16:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ghabuntu/status/13268442064879616 "@schestowitz Thanks a lot sir for the #FF props. Very much humbled " | Dec 10 16:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Ghabuntu: @schestowitz Thanks a lot ... .::. Size~: 9.82 KB | Dec 10 16:55 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/13268787868467200 "Indeed, we have files on the war of Paraguay that can't be made public until 2050. What has Brazil done there ?" | Dec 10 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Agent Smith: @schestowitz Indeed, we ha ... .::. Size~: 13.09 KB | Dec 10 16:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yep | Dec 10 16:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's not clear to me why they don't just destroy the files. | Dec 10 16:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: look into that though. | Dec 10 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the key thing | Dec 10 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you should be able to: $ gpg --import | Dec 10 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: then paste, ^D | Dec 10 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it would be labelled PUBLIC KEY BLOCK | Dec 10 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but it's labelled MESSAGE | Dec 10 16:59 |
| schestowitz | PGP still scares me | Dec 10 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Even after 7 years using it this sometimes gets a little complicated | Dec 10 17:01 |
| MinceR | http://www.ding.net/wikileaks/234867.txt | Dec 10 17:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 10 17:05 |
| gnufreex | AttachMSFT CEO has been sentenced to jail time for killing bisons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachmate#CEO_animal_cruelty_case Nice company for De Icaza, managed by ex-con. | Dec 10 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Attachmate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 59.21 KB | Dec 10 17:10 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: I know | Dec 10 17:12 |
| schestowitz | I did a post about it and Singer | Dec 10 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Singer owns the stake in AttachMSFT | Dec 10 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Singer is even more of a criminal | Dec 10 17:12 |
| schestowitz | I think he should e sentenced to life in prison | Dec 10 17:13 |
| gnufreex | How I missed that... | Dec 10 17:13 |
| schestowitz | But he's the bankster type, i.e. above the law | Dec 10 17:13 |
| gnufreex | It was probably in flury of posts when news broke out. | Dec 10 17:13 |
| schestowitz | It's all a circle jerk... rather a circle of jerks and crooks, just like SCO+McBride | Dec 10 17:13 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: no, in March | Dec 10 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Or April | Dec 10 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Search TR for "singer" | Dec 10 17:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sure it can, but you need to be familiar with the basic use cases. | Dec 10 17:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: to get your public kay | Dec 10 17:14 |
| gnufreex | Singer is from Eliot? | Dec 10 17:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: gpg -a --export <key-id> | Dec 10 17:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: gpg --list-keys to see your keychain | Dec 10 17:14 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: yes | Dec 10 17:17 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: when things go wrong, it's not simple to learn the whole conceptset | Dec 10 17:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sure | Dec 10 17:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but you either use it or you don't. | Dec 10 17:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if nobody's noticed that problem, then perhaps nobody except me wants to communicate with you this way... | Dec 10 17:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: gpg is ideal for protecting leaks :) | Dec 10 17:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: who is 'sch@danielsorogon.com' ? | Dec 10 17:22 |
| schestowitz | That's my very old address | Dec 10 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I created my key in 2003 | Dec 10 17:27 |
| schestowitz | in SUSE (NOT Novell just yet) | Dec 10 17:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | hm, i wonder if it's expired. | Dec 10 17:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm going to try emailing you | Dec 10 17:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | if that address no longer works, you should probably create a new key. | Dec 10 17:28 |
| schestowitz | would people use that address? | Dec 10 17:32 |
| schestowitz | I mean, if they know my current address... | Dec 10 17:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: why is there no email on your contact page | Dec 10 17:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you should make a new key that matches your actual address | Dec 10 17:38 |
| schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20080402092346/www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks | Dec 10 17:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wikileaks - Wikileaks .::. Size~: 56.34 KB | Dec 10 17:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: is your email address secret in some way? | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: people did not mail that old address | Dec 10 17:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: is it on your site? | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | i checked for eyars | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | It was deprecated | Dec 10 17:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: then you should make a new key. | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I don't use E-mail | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | I work in the open | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | And I insist on it | Dec 10 17:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if ppl import the key, it does indicate that's your address. plus many mail clients do use that address for matching. | Dec 10 17:47 |
| schestowitz | I think transparency breeds trust, despite the drawbacks | Dec 10 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: okay then please advise how you and i can have an encrypted chat., | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | My friend is here near me right now | Dec 10 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if you want to discuss wikileaks it's time to move out of the open. | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | And I've just talked to him about it 5 minutes ago | Dec 10 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if you don't realise that, then you need to think harder. | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Basically, people make up flase conpiracy theoeries | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Saying that I sent trolls or something | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | or hire *LOL* | Dec 10 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: tech rights is one thing. | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | They think there's work behind the scenes | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | But there ain't | Dec 10 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: WL is something else. THere are things i won't discuss in plaintext. | Dec 10 17:48 |
| schestowitz | And I keep it clean by keeping it open | Dec 10 17:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: techrights is one thing. | Dec 10 17:49 |
| schestowitz | The idea that I am watched keeps us all well behaved | Dec 10 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: WL is a different ballpark. | Dec 10 17:49 |
| schestowitz | So no mailgate possible | Dec 10 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so why publish the gpg key? it's useless. | Dec 10 17:49 |
| schestowitz | [17:48] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: okay then please advise how you and i can have an encrypted chat., | Dec 10 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Why serets? | Dec 10 17:49 |
| schestowitz | *Crets | Dec 10 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: WIKIFUCKINGLEAKS | Dec 10 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you don't get it yet? | Dec 10 17:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: techrights is kid's games. | Dec 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: for some things like patient dara | Dec 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | *data | Dec 10 17:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if you want to discuss WL with me, it goes encrypted. | Dec 10 17:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but i have some hints for you , if you refuse. you can think on them. | Dec 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: anything too sensitive? Anyway, you can use E-mail | Dec 10 17:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i can use gpg email. | Dec 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | There's an auto-responder on my public address | Dec 10 17:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: nothing i want to email can lead to Mailgate | Dec 10 17:50 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes, please do | Dec 10 17:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: what IS your public address. | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Esp. if it's not related to this site] | Dec 10 17:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's not TR related. | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: r @ schestowitz.com | Dec 10 17:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | k | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | OK | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Dec 10 17:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i could have figured that out, but what i was reacting to was "I don't do email" | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | I spent the past 10 days active for wikileaks' (Bradley's) cause | Dec 10 17:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: with WL you need to be much more careful. | Dec 10 17:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's not the point, tho. | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Cause it opens the guts of the rotten parts of the system | Dec 10 17:51 |
| schestowitz | And it now has 4chan doing some real nasty fightiing | Dec 10 17:52 |
| schestowitz | [17:51] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: i could have figured that out, but what i was reacting to was "I don't do email" | Dec 10 17:52 |
| schestowitz | In general I trey to steer away from E-mail | Dec 10 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Cause I used to get too much of it | Dec 10 17:52 |
| schestowitz | And it didn't let me make progress on items that drive some real change | Dec 10 17:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | 4chan is irrelevnat, they're not political | Dec 10 17:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | they will soon get bored | Dec 10 17:52 |
| schestowitz | heh | Dec 10 17:52 |
| schestowitz | I hope | Dec 10 17:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | trust me | Dec 10 17:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm amazed they're still even doing anything | Dec 10 17:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | they're useless | Dec 10 17:53 |
| schestowitz | kids :-) | Dec 10 17:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, privileged, bored, kids | Dec 10 17:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | ignorant, too | Dec 10 17:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/13284615217217536 "@schestowitz: It's a real danger..." | Dec 10 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / Răzvan Sandu: @schestowitz: It's a real ... .::. Size~: 9.7 KB | Dec 10 17:54 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: or vengeful and bitter | Dec 10 17:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 10 17:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | based on what? | Dec 10 17:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | if they're not educatedon the context of WL, what's the point | Dec 10 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Other things | Dec 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Like their officials | Dec 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | WHom they see embodied in US officials | Dec 10 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Most downloaded in US, then UK (the DDOS tool, over 40k d/ls now) | Dec 10 18:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | they're not political, just usual bored kids in a broken system | Dec 10 18:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | vandals, graffitists | Dec 10 18:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I ended up on a very sad US site yesterday | Dec 10 18:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ppl documenting crimes of cruelty, child abuse, etc | Dec 10 18:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: basically consequences of poverty | Dec 10 18:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the broken system is costing millions in the US any chance at a reasonable existence | Dec 10 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 50 mln families don't have enough food | Dec 10 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they've been screwed by the plutocracy | Dec 10 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the same one they're fighting for | Dec 10 18:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | if they'd ever read a book they'd know the drill | Dec 10 18:15 |
| schestowitz | See my new dent about WL | Dec 10 18:18 |
| schestowitz | BTW a friend's here | Dec 10 18:18 |
| schestowitz | So I'm slow to responds | Dec 10 18:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | np | Dec 10 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Can't listen, speak and type at the same time | Dec 10 18:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: correction, not 50 million families, but 50 million Americans don't have food security | Dec 10 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | what's the population of britain? :/ | Dec 10 20:00 |
| MinceR | what's the maximum airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? | Dec 10 20:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | I don't know that! | Dec 10 20:03 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: wkipedia has exact numbers, but it hovers around 60 million | Dec 10 20:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: load my public key, http://telegraphics.com.au/~toby/toby-g5-pubkey.txt | Dec 10 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Ok, loading | Dec 10 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Imported | Dec 10 20:13 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Dec 10 20:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | thx | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | almost 300 dents yesterday | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | 29x | Dec 10 20:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | I told you! | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe it | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | I could easily beat that | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | And I don't deter readers | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | It's like effortlessly passing a lot of info | Dec 10 20:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | you did over 20k | Dec 10 20:15 |
| schestowitz | think of 1k readers | Dec 10 20:16 |
| schestowitz | not all of whom follow, some just read the words | Dec 10 20:16 |
| schestowitz | 20m impressions for your messages | Dec 10 20:16 |
| schestowitz | of course not accurate, just number to toss, depending on what the heck fi measured | Dec 10 20:16 |
| schestowitz | *is | Dec 10 20:16 |
| schestowitz | turns out a high proportion of US folks use twitter now | Dec 10 20:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | yus | Dec 10 20:17 |
| schestowitz | In other countries it's small | Dec 10 20:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | i've done 20k since i started using it. | Dec 10 20:17 |
| schestowitz | maybe cause it one community | Dec 10 20:17 |
| schestowitz | One instance | Dec 10 20:17 |
| schestowitz | And dominated by English as a deployment | Dec 10 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Let me just finish denting Linux news | Dec 10 20:18 |
| schestowitz | I see a message you sent in my box, unopened as yet | Dec 10 20:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | k | Dec 10 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I have a work routine | Dec 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | It always changes | Dec 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | I now keep a calendar in text form | Dec 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | And my routine changes over time | Dec 10 20:21 |
| schestowitz | So now I just do some Linux news, ensuring I know what's up | Dec 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | ANd I have a guess over | Dec 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | SO it has been distracting | Dec 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Couldn't dent much or well | Dec 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Speajing while reading and all | Dec 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | ANd then you talked PGP | Dec 10 20:22 |
| schestowitz | And he was around talking, I couldn't answer you politely | Dec 10 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 10 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | don't worry, this is irc | Dec 10 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | unlimited latency is the norm | Dec 10 20:23 |
| schestowitz | There's just this girl he knows and she's at work now | Dec 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | We might go out for drinks tonight, if _goblin doesn't show up to record techbyts | Dec 10 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Testing MEPIS 11 Alpha 4 http://is.gd/ivQKh "It certainly is faster compared to Mepis 8.5" !debian ☛ !gnu ☛ !linux ☛ #mepis ☛ | Dec 10 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: La Esquina de un Migrante a Linux: Testing MEPIS 11 Alpha 4! .::. Size~: 67.72 KB | Dec 10 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: well have fun. i'm sorry i can't be there :) | Dec 10 20:39 |
| schestowitz | What's happening with Pardus Linux? Long time since it last made an appearance in the English-speaking sites... | Dec 10 20:40 |
| schestowitz | I can't get answers from them | Dec 10 20:40 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: not going anywhere yet | Dec 10 20:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | right, it was an advance 'have fun'. | Dec 10 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Ah, OK. Lack of voice | Dec 10 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I found a pardus user: " I don't know but I tried it for a bit a while back and was one of the few distros that made me think ooh this is a bit special" https://identi.ca/notice/60196010 | Dec 10 20:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-10 20:41:26 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.26 KB | Dec 10 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Twitter spam rising | Dec 10 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Triggered by tags | Dec 10 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Automated junk incoming | Dec 10 20:55 |
| schestowitz | "Testing GPG only." | Dec 10 21:36 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it works | Dec 10 21:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Dec 10 21:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | thanks | Dec 10 21:38 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I don't view it as you do | Dec 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | I am saving this message | Dec 10 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes, it's a warning | Dec 10 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: wait and see | Dec 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | They'll struggle to police countries in some places | Dec 10 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i've taken that into account. | Dec 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Inc. top offiicials who host it | Dec 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | That would be asking for diplomatic wars | Dec 10 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: watch what happens to the little people. | Dec 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | They'll just scream each mporning | Dec 10 21:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: wait and see, i cannot see any other outcome | Dec 10 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Seeing another one of their crony funders like Pfeizer being stoned at Nigeria | Dec 10 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Not literally | Dec 10 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ppl are being careless. hence my warning. | Dec 10 21:42 |
| schestowitz | But driven out of there | Dec 10 21:42 |
| schestowitz | No | Dec 10 21:42 |
| schestowitz | They give more ammo | Dec 10 21:42 |
| *FurnaceBoy has to go get a late lunch | Dec 10 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | They can't attack this far | Dec 10 21:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I know. I've taken that into account as well. | Dec 10 21:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this conclusion comes from a look at the big picture and a bit of digestion. | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I don't think we're monitiored either | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | We're small fish | Dec 10 21:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's not the point. | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | the ones whom you named as top fish | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | One of their principal US organiser | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | And they knew what leaks were coming | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Unprepared, they failed to stop them | Dec 10 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Julian was smart to avoid the US as he deliberately did | Dec 10 21:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you are right, we see it differently. but do be careful. | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Also Sweden | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Gary is still here | Dec 10 21:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i've put a lot of thought into what i can/should do. and u see my conclusions. | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | The police here ain't a crony like in some countries | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Not puppet-police | Dec 10 21:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | encryption is like a condom; prevention, not cure. | Dec 10 21:45 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz History is being made right now. #Senate #Filibuster http://sn.im/1mdafc not since June 10, 1964!" https://twitter.com/lamapper/status/13346493385670656 | Dec 10 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | Just in | Dec 10 21:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: just be careful. more careful than you see people being. that's all i'm saying, because ppl have vastly underestimated what's happening here. | Dec 10 21:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | including, possibly, JA. | Dec 10 21:46 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I knew | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | But I watched out carfully | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I recognise people in IRC | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | But logs are public anyway | Dec 10 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's not enough | Dec 10 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sheesh, i'll have ot write you another mail :) | Dec 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Informants are better off with Evan+Identica | Dec 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Like log collection for concurrent raids | Dec 10 21:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | bbiab | Dec 10 21:49 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?src=cspan2&msg=You+are+watching+C-SPAN2+LIVE&start=107.808&end=-1 | Dec 10 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | major | Dec 10 21:54 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Yeah there has been quite a lot of buzz around Pardus lately. Looks like a pretty decent distro." http://identi.ca/conversation/59595685#notice-60199322 | Dec 10 22:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.21 KB | Dec 10 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Many strangers in IRC today... | Dec 10 22:04 |
| MinceR | "I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you... ...stranger." | Dec 10 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Bernie Sander cites the book of Arianna in his new speech. Oh Lordy! | Dec 10 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Talking to Obama | Dec 10 23:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | shit | Dec 10 23:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Dec 10 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm not surprised | Dec 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Third World Ameirca | Dec 10 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | everybody's fooled | Dec 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | From Billie's friend | Dec 10 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes i know | Dec 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Why doesn't he move to China? | Dec 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Lots mor eto loot there | Dec 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | He and Nathan Myhrvold emptied the US | Dec 10 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can loot Canada next | Dec 10 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | they're tryng , as you know | Dec 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Billionaires in the US combined worth $1.3 tr | Dec 10 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | globalisation means: "would is our cookie jar" | Dec 10 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | you know it. | Dec 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Just the billionaires | Dec 10 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | world* | Dec 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | 25% of kids on food stamps | Dec 10 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | 50 million americans without a secure food source | Dec 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Cake? | Dec 10 23:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | and THEY'RE the ones cheering ofr the system that's starving them and enslaving them. | Dec 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Let em | Dec 10 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | TEa Paaarty | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Lobbying for oil companies | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | And for less regulation | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | No tax for the rich | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | What a bunch of clowns | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | More vulnerable->more foolish Turfers | Dec 10 23:27 |
| schestowitz | "Stick with the GOP+rich people" | Dec 10 23:28 |
| schestowitz | ;'They're rich" | Dec 10 23:28 |
| schestowitz | "THey'll protect you" :-) | Dec 10 23:28 |
| schestowitz | *evilgrin* | Dec 10 23:28 |
| schestowitz | ARGH!!! | Dec 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | He gievs credit to Gates | Dec 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | "Charitable" | Dec 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | What a douchery | Dec 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | The biggest thief which give 0% tax | Dec 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | ARGH!! | Dec 10 23:47 |
| schestowitz | He says Gates doesn't want the money | Dec 10 23:48 |
| schestowitz | What a PR disaster | Dec 10 23:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?src=cspan2&msg=You+are+watching+C-SPAN2+LIVE&start=107.808&end=-1 | Dec 10 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | He fooled them | Dec 10 23:48 |
| schestowitz | THey want to be richest theives AND be called "patriotic" | Dec 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | In this case be described as though they gave away all their money | Dec 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | While they actually still GROW their wealth | Dec 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | PR ay work | Dec 10 23:49 |
| schestowitz | $1ml on PR per day! | Dec 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I stop listening to him after 2-3 houts | Dec 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | *hours | Dec 10 23:50 |
| schestowitz | The very same banks that he calls "Crooks" and compares to criminals are those who Gates invests in for profit | Dec 10 23:51 |
| schestowitz | And this is the type of disinfo he sends the public and the president.For shame. | Dec 10 23:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | :{ | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | the whole system has rotted out | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | our "saviors" are the biggest crooks | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | everything is the opposite of what it calls itself. | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | i had a friend who insisted "Monsanto will feed every starving African" | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | "without GMO the world will starve" | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | you hear the same shit about biofuels | Dec 10 23:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | ppl who still believe in 1) the state 2) just war 3) science saving the world 4) obama 5) ... | Dec 10 23:55 |
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