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| FurnaceBoy | it's not fun to speculate why | Dec 12 00:06 |
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| FurnaceBoy | well, except for the part that blowback is proportional to the change possible :) | Dec 12 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | hm | Dec 12 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 12 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's still not fun. | Dec 12 00:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | :/ | Dec 12 00:06 |
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| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: new bot will be running here soon | Dec 12 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: forwarded src to schestowitz | Dec 12 00:08 |
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| schestowitz | Wikileaks reduces changes of Blair for Nobel peace prize | Dec 12 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can also withdraw's Kissinger's | Dec 12 00:14 |
| schestowitz | *withdraw | Dec 12 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | if that ever happened... i'd be forced to throw a party. | Dec 12 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | i don't think it will happen in my lifetime. | Dec 12 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | more likely to see a PP for Blair | Dec 12 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | (than that) | Dec 12 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Shaped like hand grenade, the replacement trophy will represent a warcrime award | Dec 12 00:15 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: how about a Piece price for Blair | Dec 12 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Piece of flesh | Dec 12 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Piece of a kid fragmented by a cluster bomb | Dec 12 00:16 |
| schestowitz | The Piece Prize... or Piece of * PRIZE | Dec 12 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Awarded to the one who yielded most "pieces" whilst wearing 3-part suit | Dec 12 00:17 |
| oiaohm_ | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/new-us-cybersecurity-bill-could-threaten-free-software I hope this bill is not a responce to wikileaks. | Dec 12 00:18 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: New US cybersecurity bill could threaten free software — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 28.51 KB | Dec 12 00:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: it partially is. | Dec 12 00:18 |
| oiaohm_ | Yes there needs to be quality control on software. | Dec 12 00:18 |
| oiaohm_ | Closed or open when it comes to servers. | Dec 12 00:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: it's partly pre-emptive against sites like wikileaks. | Dec 12 00:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | but we see they have many many other weapons | Dec 12 00:19 |
| oiaohm_ | Critical servers. | Dec 12 00:19 |
| oiaohm_ | Problem here this could be mandated back doors into servers. | Dec 12 00:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | they don't need the law for that. | Dec 12 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Like CHina | Dec 12 00:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | the US govt operates outside the law, even within the US | Dec 12 00:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | for example, the recent Free6 case. the server wasn't even located in US. | Dec 12 00:20 |
| oiaohm_ | Currently you are not mandated to have the back door. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | we forget that blackmail is a tool (-> Lamo) | Dec 12 00:20 |
| oiaohm_ | Ie is not illegal not to have the backdoor. | Dec 12 00:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: doesn't matter. they ask: they get. | Dec 12 00:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: they just threaten | Dec 12 00:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: see the free6 case written up on / | Dec 12 00:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | /. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| oiaohm_ | Threaten did not work against wikileaks. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | it worked against all their partners. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| oiaohm_ | It lived on. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh, sort of. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| oiaohm_ | Now if they could have damaged there data. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: they did, more or less. some of those mirrors are honeypots. | Dec 12 00:21 |
| oiaohm_ | Note Wikileaks partners were threated but in the process the partners returned data. | Dec 12 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: we can't know which ones | Dec 12 00:22 |
| oiaohm_ | Of course that is to be suspected. | Dec 12 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: no, all the partners capitulated; everydns, amazon, paypal, visa, mastercard, and presumably dozens of others that didn't make headlines. | Dec 12 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: it's a certainty. if you were US govt or foreign govt, the first thin gis you use their mirror form. | Dec 12 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | a few dozen times, most likely. | Dec 12 00:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | everybody seems to be vastly underestimating the risks and the enemy here. | Dec 12 00:23 |
| oiaohm_ | I don't. | Dec 12 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | and not modelling threats properly. | Dec 12 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | except JA ; that's what he does... | Dec 12 00:23 |
| oiaohm_ | I have gone head to head with them in the past. | Dec 12 00:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: so maybe you have some advice. | Dec 12 00:23 |
| oiaohm_ | Number 1 let the mirror it. | Dec 12 00:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: for example, explain the risks involved in setting up a mirror. how can you do it without personal risk? | Dec 12 00:24 |
| oiaohm_ | Do you homework where out where they are mirroring it. | Dec 12 00:24 |
| oiaohm_ | Then leak that. | Dec 12 00:24 |
| oiaohm_ | How can you information be bad if they are providing the mirror. | Dec 12 00:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | hm? | Dec 12 00:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | what do you mean? | Dec 12 00:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | there are several purposes to the govt setting up a mirror | Dec 12 00:24 |
| oiaohm_ | You can bet the USA guys have created wiki mirrors as a honeypot. | Dec 12 00:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | 1 is to collect information. russia would like to know, e.g., WHO is accessing the data. all govts do. | Dec 12 00:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: that's what I said | Dec 12 00:25 |
| oiaohm_ | But there is a problem. | Dec 12 00:25 |
| oiaohm_ | They say the information should not be released. | Dec 12 00:25 |
| oiaohm_ | So they have a conflit if interestest here. That the USA legal system does not support. | Dec 12 00:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 12 00:25 |
| oiaohm_ | That is big enough to get the case against wikileaks dumped. | Dec 12 00:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | they don't operate within any law, oiaohm_ | Dec 12 00:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's the problem | Dec 12 00:26 |
| oiaohm_ | They think they don't. | Dec 12 00:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | this has been proven time and time again | Dec 12 00:26 |
| oiaohm_ | And time and time again ever time its proven someones head rolls. | Dec 12 00:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | nobody has been held accountable in the past 10 years | Dec 12 00:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | for anything | Dec 12 00:26 |
| oiaohm_ | Not true. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | extraordinary rendition? torture? war? spying? | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | nobody's head has rolled. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | not one. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | all illegal. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| oiaohm_ | Heads have rolled. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | name one? | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | for example, over extraordinary rendition (an incredible crime) | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | who's been accountable? | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | Howard? Blair? | Dec 12 00:27 |
| oiaohm_ | Ones who have done the operations incompetent and had it leak to the public of there double standards. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| oiaohm_ | And I really do mean roll in the normal sence of dead. | Dec 12 00:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | awesome | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: LAW | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: you said the LAW has been applied. | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: where? | Dec 12 00:28 |
| oiaohm_ | LAW of jungle FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | FurnaceBoy | they don't operate within any law, oiaohm_ | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | well, yes, but that's not the LAW you referred to above: | Dec 12 00:28 |
| oiaohm_ | That LAW does not go away. | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_ | So they have a conflit if interestest here. That the USA legal system does not support. | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ contradicts | Dec 12 00:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | who cares about the US legal system? they don't. | Dec 12 00:28 |
| oiaohm_ | Problem is that is proven they are operating out side there laws. | Dec 12 00:28 |
| oiaohm_ | When that leaks someone dies. | Dec 12 00:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | sure. | Dec 12 00:29 |
| oiaohm_ | Because they screwed up. | Dec 12 00:29 |
| FurnaceBoy | so nobody's been held accountable. | Dec 12 00:29 |
| oiaohm_ | Do that enough times no one wants to follow anymore. | Dec 12 00:29 |
| oiaohm_ | Basically there job is to create double standard stuff without being detected. Detected bad things happen. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:30 |
| oiaohm_ | So proving where they break laws over and over again gets them off your back. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:30 |
| oiaohm_ | Particually if its coming from them attempting to follow you. | Dec 12 00:30 |
| oiaohm_ | You seam to have the idea a person has to be sent to jail for accountablity to happen. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:31 |
| oiaohm_ | The law of the intelance world where problems just disappear. Wikileaks threatens to make that happen lot more often. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:32 |
| oiaohm_ | So bringing accountablity threw there own system of LAW. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:32 |
| oiaohm_ | Reason why I say they only think they are above the LAW. FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | They write the law | Dec 12 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Even as we speak | Dec 12 00:35 |
| schestowitz | "anti-Wikileaks" law | Dec 12 00:35 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, we don't like it, let's make it illegal" | Dec 12 00:35 |
| oiaohm_ | Funny part here we can bet they do equal when it to there advantage. | Dec 12 00:42 |
| schestowitz | OK, there it goes in identica... | Dec 12 00:43 |
| oiaohm_ | A direct anti wikileaks law risks hitting media agancies. They need media agences. | Dec 12 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Let me load up the IRC scripts from FurnaceBoy | Dec 12 00:43 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: ping | Dec 12 00:43 |
| schestowitz | should I just use the latest one? | Dec 12 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Can I disregard safely the former ones? | Dec 12 00:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: destroy them | Dec 12 00:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: use latest only :) | Dec 12 00:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: right, but 'to date,' they've got away with it. naturally i dream of a future where they shall not. | Dec 12 00:45 |
| schestowitz | > See attached. Please contact me if any issues. | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | > Ultimately I plan to push these fixes/enhancements to the bitbucket repo | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | > with trmanco's assent. | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | You got his phone #? | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | I never see him on VOIP | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Used to speak to him for hours... | Dec 12 00:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i'm assuming he'll log into irc at some point. I've left a memo there. | Dec 12 00:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | here* | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | When he was in .pt | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: excellent | Dec 12 00:47 |
| schestowitz | OK, 0.33 then | Dec 12 00:47 |
| oiaohm_ | FurnaceBoy: Basically the only option for them at moment is try to legally create a requirement for a back door. That they could exploit. So The attacker against somewhere in future would be some random attacker destorying data. | Dec 12 00:48 |
| schestowitz | You encrypt files in encrypted mail? | Dec 12 00:49 |
| oiaohm_ | FurnaceBoy: remember as part of the laws they have to operate by. Is operate without being noticed. | Dec 12 00:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you can use gpg to decrypt the attachment | Dec 12 00:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: gpg -d | Dec 12 00:49 |
| oiaohm_ | Yes you can send encrypted email but very few people do. | Dec 12 00:49 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I know | Dec 12 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I did | Dec 12 00:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there may be a future update if i find the bugs that oiaohm_ has mentioned | Dec 12 00:50 |
| schestowitz | I just thought double enc is excessive | Dec 12 00:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's not deliberate | Dec 12 00:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's probably a consequence of mime | Dec 12 00:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i may be able to change a setting to simplify that | Dec 12 00:51 |
| oiaohm_ | For all we know FurnaceBoy might have fixed the bugs I had been seeing by luck. Only time will tell. | Dec 12 00:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but nobody has complained yet :) | Dec 12 00:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: right, i saw some things and fixed them in passing | Dec 12 00:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm_: but i know there's a few more, i just have to hit the rfcs | Dec 12 00:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | my main purpose was to get better treatment of dents and tweets, as in , get the whole text inline chat | Dec 12 00:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | but turned out there was a bunch of other stuff that could be improved/fixed | Dec 12 00:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | for example, if you enable archiving, ALL URLs are archived, not just HTML | Dec 12 00:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: do you use the archiving feature of phirce? | Dec 12 00:53 |
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| schestowitz | PHP Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required 'config.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear:/usr/share/php') in /root/phirce/bot.php on line 26 | Dec 12 00:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you should have that already | Dec 12 00:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: or are you running a REALLY old version?? | Dec 12 00:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | if so, you need a config.php set up | Dec 12 00:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'll mail you that too? | Dec 12 00:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | well you can use the one right out of his repo as a basis | Dec 12 00:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | also, i suggest you dont run the bot as root | Dec 12 00:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | i set up a phirce user for it | Dec 12 00:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | & put this at top of config.php : | Dec 12 00:58 |
| schestowitz | I have settings in another file | Dec 12 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he renamed it | Dec 12 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | $uinfo = posix_getpwuid(posix_getuid()); | Dec 12 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | die_unless($uinfo['name'] == 'phirce', | Dec 12 00:59 |
| schestowitz | wait, maybe it's just as simple as renaming | Dec 12 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | "## Please run as 'phirce' user: sudo -u phirce php -q {$argv[0]}\r\n" | Dec 12 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | ."## or disable this check in config.php"); | Dec 12 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | hmmm | Dec 12 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it should resemble this http://bitbucket.org/trmanco/phirce/src/7a01fb808b6b/config.php | Dec 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz | He renamed it | Dec 12 01:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | odd. | Dec 12 01:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok so the standard name ref'd in bot.php is config.php | Dec 12 01:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | change either... | Dec 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: in latest version I don't see config file | Dec 12 01:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: correct | Dec 12 01:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: use your existing config | Dec 12 01:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | either rename it to config.php or change the filename in bot.php | Dec 12 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Class.phIRCe.php | Dec 12 01:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | no, reference is line 26 of bot.php | Dec 12 01:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'd suggest renaming to config.php then future upgrades will just work too | Dec 12 01:07 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: bot.php is just 1.5k | Dec 12 01:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Dec 12 01:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the guts of it are Class... | Dec 12 01:09 |
| schestowitz | where's the code added then? | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | $ wc -l *.php | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | 45 bot.php | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | 677 Class.phIRCe.php | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | 51 config.php | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | 773 total | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | the 2 files i sent you have changed, schestowitz | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | replace those. | Dec 12 01:09 |
| schestowitz | 2?? | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | and your old config should be renamed to 'config.php' | Dec 12 01:09 |
| schestowitz | oh | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, the 2 changed files are: bot.php & Class.phIRCe.php | Dec 12 01:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | you should have a config file of the same format as the repo link above. | Dec 12 01:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | i gotta grab laundry. | Dec 12 01:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | no luck | Dec 12 01:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | ? | Dec 12 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Same error | Dec 12 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Hold on.. | Dec 12 01:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | you need a config.php | Dec 12 01:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok brb | Dec 12 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Where from? | Dec 12 01:18 |
| schestowitz | config.php | Dec 12 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I'll get trmancio's | Dec 12 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I see what you did there | Dec 12 01:22 |
| schestowitz | What a mess for me | Dec 12 01:22 |
| schestowitz | You split files.... | Dec 12 01:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 01:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.89 KB | Dec 12 01:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | split? no | Dec 12 01:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Dec 12 01:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | i didn't touch the layout | Dec 12 01:30 |
| schestowitz | in vi | Dec 12 01:30 |
| schestowitz | manually | Dec 12 01:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | hm? | Dec 12 01:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 12 01:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | you must have been running a much older version. | Dec 12 01:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | my work was done based off the latest in repo | Dec 12 01:31 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/nsisodiya/statuses/13344266138947584 | Dec 12 01:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | anyway, the complication is probably that you run > 1 bot in >1 channel | Dec 12 01:31 |
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| schestowitz | Bah | Dec 12 01:31 |
| schestowitz | let me check the log | Dec 12 01:31 |
| schestowitz | I hope it doesn't need json | Dec 12 01:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: do me a favour, paste the same link in #symbo1ics | Dec 12 01:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it does | Dec 12 01:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but only for !google | Dec 12 01:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you need curl for everything else | Dec 12 01:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: do me a favour, paste the same link in #symbo1ics <-------- | Dec 12 01:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | i am running a copy of the bot in there | Dec 12 01:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | if there's a bug, i'll see it immediately here in log | Dec 12 01:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | nm i can do it :) | Dec 12 01:33 |
| schestowitz | Let's try this again here | Dec 12 01:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | if you run the bot from shell, you'll see error messages | Dec 12 01:33 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 01:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.89 KB | Dec 12 01:33 |
| schestowitz | then see error | Dec 12 01:33 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/nsisodiya/statuses/13344266138947584 | Dec 12 01:33 |
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| schestowitz | "PHP Fatal error: Class 'DOMXPath' not found in /home/boycottn/phirce-social/Class.phIRCe.php on line 423" | Dec 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | is that a PM? | Dec 12 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Oh, wait... | Dec 12 01:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | you need DOM... | Dec 12 01:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh boy... | Dec 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | indeed | Dec 12 01:35 |
| schestowitz | I'm tired | Dec 12 01:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | np | Dec 12 01:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok let me see about this | Dec 12 01:35 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org | Dec 12 01:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.89 KB | Dec 12 01:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.89 KB | Dec 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | we'll do it tomorrow | Dec 12 01:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | what v php are you running? | Dec 12 01:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | is there any chance you can add the extension? | Dec 12 01:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | libxml | Dec 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | json also crashes it | Dec 12 01:36 |
| schestowitz | !g ff | Dec 12 01:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's used by !google | Dec 12 01:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | !google foo | Dec 12 01:37 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ok | Dec 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | I'll need those set up... manana | Dec 12 01:37 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 01:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 37.89 KB | Dec 12 01:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | dev-lang/phpcgi ctype force-cgi-redirect iconv memlimit pcre posix unicode session xml xsl gd json mysql mysqli calendar suhosin curl sockets | Dec 12 01:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ this is my config, basically. | Dec 12 01:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | so has curl, xml, json, sockets | Dec 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | centos doesn't make installing them easy | Dec 12 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | i bet :) | Dec 12 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | well i can give you some help tomorrow | Dec 12 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | i can set up a matching virtual machine here if needed | Dec 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | thanks! | Dec 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | that'll be worth it | Dec 12 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I also want to have the google function | Dec 12 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | i mean with your exact release | Dec 12 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | what release of centos? i'll get a head start | Dec 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Which previously omitted by hand (a year ago) | Dec 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | It works ok from my desktop though | Dec 12 01:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | you can try it in #symbo1ic | Dec 12 01:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | you can try it in #symbo1ics | Dec 12 01:39 |
| schestowitz | But I sometimes restart KDE | Dec 12 01:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | what release should i install? | Dec 12 01:40 |
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| FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: hi | Dec 12 04:37 |
| Ender2070 | hi | Dec 12 04:40 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: are you around? | Dec 12 08:52 |
| schestowitz | Need to get that script all sort out | Dec 12 08:52 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 12 08:53 |
| schestowitz | We got a major troll in identica. http://identi.ca/sobchak | Dec 12 08:53 |
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| schestowitz | How long before he's banned by the admins? He's cursing everyone | Dec 12 08:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/11/stockholm-bombings-kill-1_n_795437.html | Dec 12 15:48 |
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| schestowitz | "According to the news agency, the e-mail referred to Sweden's silence surrounding artist Lars Vilk's drawing of Muhammad as a dog and its soldiers in Afghanistan." | Dec 12 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Sigh. Religions | Dec 12 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | Is this spam? https://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232 | Dec 12 18:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz OK, What's the best known Linux distribution that doesn't ship Mono applications?... http://bit.ly/gdPIVj" | Dec 12 18:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: OK, What's the best known Linux distribution that doesn't ship Mono applications? .::. Size~: 19.04 KB | Dec 12 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep | Dec 12 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | spam | Dec 12 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | block & report | Dec 12 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's the huffington post, but: words by Naomi Wolf, who is one of the greats. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/post_1394_b_795001.html | Dec 12 18:26 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: very good read | Dec 12 18:26 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I'll try to install those PMs | Dec 12 18:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok | Dec 12 18:26 |
| schestowitz | JSON too | Dec 12 18:26 |
| schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 | Dec 12 18:29 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 18:30 |
| schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 | Dec 12 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 | Dec 12 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | Call to undefined function json_decode() | Dec 12 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Odd, I've installed it http://www.reviewsaurus.com/tips-tricks/how-to-install-json-support-for-php-in-centos/ | Dec 12 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Skipping package "pear/json", already installed as version 1.2.1 | Dec 12 18:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | did you restart apache? | Dec 12 18:34 |
| schestowitz | no, cause it's not part of the server side I assumed | Dec 12 18:35 |
| schestowitz | I'll do this now | Dec 12 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | !google qu1j0t3 | Dec 12 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | Same error | Dec 12 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232 | Dec 12 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | "PHP Fatal error: Class 'DOMXPath' not found " | Dec 12 18:37 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232 | Dec 12 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | Damn. And I've installed that | Dec 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz | http://packages.sw.be/perl-XML-DOM-XPath/ | Dec 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I knew this whole thing was gonna be time consuming | Dec 12 18:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Dec 12 18:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's one of the things binary distros make tough | Dec 12 18:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: DOm apparently depends on libxml | Dec 12 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | extension | Dec 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz | I hate installing perl modules on centos | Dec 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | It has always been trouble | Dec 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I'm installing libxml2 | Dec 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Don't know if the stuff is being linked right | Dec 12 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | !google 333 | Dec 12 18:48 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 12 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ErinBird/status/13977649500127232 | Dec 12 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | PHP Fatal error: Class 'DOMXPath' not found | Dec 12 18:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: none of this is related to Perl. | Dec 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Oops, yeah, I was thinking of cpan for the other bot | Dec 12 18:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the php manual says that DOM depends on libxml extension (AND libxml library somewhere no doubt, but your system probably already has that) | Dec 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz | The one for twitter | Dec 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz | that too was a PITA | Dec 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Cause it depended on PMs | Dec 12 18:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | unless they're all packaged perfectly, it's a nightmare. | Dec 12 18:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | gentoo avoids this issue | Dec 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz | that's not helping me right now | Dec 12 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | you need to find where all the modules are packaged. | Dec 12 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | presumably they're in one place. | Dec 12 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | extensions* | Dec 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz | it still lacks (access to) the class needed | Dec 12 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | most likely you haven't installed the right set of php extensions, | Dec 12 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | or they're not matching to your php package | Dec 12 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | plus, after installing them, you will probably need to restart apache | Dec 12 18:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | loh wait | Dec 12 18:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | nm | Dec 12 18:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | i forget that you're running outside of apache | Dec 12 18:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | so ignore that :) | Dec 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Tried http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=DESC&topic_id=528&forum=31 | Dec 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yeah | Dec 12 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Not apache | Dec 12 18:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=php+extensions+centos | Dec 12 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Can you give me package list? | Dec 12 18:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | the first question is, "are they packaged" | Dec 12 18:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | then... "where" | Dec 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | So I can install them? | Dec 12 18:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | when i've mucked with centos i've had to use 3rd party repos, like EPEL and RPMForge | Dec 12 18:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok checking your link | Dec 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: some are on the Belgian sever... I assume the lead dev | Dec 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz | We have 2 issues | Dec 12 18:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | so you are using release 4? | Dec 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Solved neither... JSON and 'DOMXPath' | Dec 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: 5 | Dec 12 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | i can install a vm here and work it out | Dec 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Linux boycottnovell.com 2.6.18-194.8.1.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 1 19:41:05 EDT 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | Dec 12 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: ( btw, make sure you read that Wolf article. It's important ) | Dec 12 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok well put it aside, i'll try it in a VM | Dec 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Huff and Puff... | Dec 12 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Wolf wrote the words. | Dec 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Added to daily news picks | Dec 12 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: she's awesome. "End of America" -- you've seen that? | Dec 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Much more | Dec 12 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: she was at the solidarity march i attended here the Monday after G20 | Dec 12 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: she was very angry | Dec 12 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: she doesn't usually attend marches. | Dec 12 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | but she said she was too angry not to | Dec 12 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | i got to within 60 feet or so but couldn't hear very well | Dec 12 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | they didn't have proper sound gear | Dec 12 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | :( | Dec 12 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think it's time for dissenters to organise like an army | Dec 12 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | we need funding | Dec 12 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | i noticed that the barricades around Parliament were useless | Dec 12 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | i hope they were breached? | Dec 12 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | very easy to breach | Dec 12 19:00 |
| schestowitz | "Skipping package "pear/json", already installed as version 1.2.1" | Dec 12 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Grrrrr... | Dec 12 19:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah but. | Dec 12 19:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | that may not be the extension. | Dec 12 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | !google ddddd | Dec 12 19:01 |
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| qu1j0t3 | you may not be installing the right packages. | Dec 12 19:01 |
| schestowitz | I tried it last year to | Dec 12 19:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | put it aside | Dec 12 19:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'll have a look at it. | Dec 12 19:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | i already had to futz with Centos for a friend | Dec 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | ok, thanks | Dec 12 19:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | and ended up discovering EPEL and RPMForge | Dec 12 19:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'll try and find the *right* packages for you | Dec 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | we have .5-1 mb of logs per day | Dec 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | So your code would be great! | Dec 12 19:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | np | Dec 12 19:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | you use the archive feature? | Dec 12 19:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's much better now | Dec 12 19:02 |
| schestowitz | yes. | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Now, let's dent it :-) | Dec 12 19:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | dent? | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | I've hardly posted today | Dec 12 19:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | ah ok | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Work around the house | Dec 12 19:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes go nuts | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | dent~=tweet | Dec 12 19:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | i did 5 loads of laundry yesterday | Dec 12 19:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | today i should do some paid work haha | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | I used to do 5-6 at once | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | I have loads of clothes | Dec 12 19:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | haha | Dec 12 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Efficiency 101 | Dec 12 19:04 |
| schestowitz | I usually grab coffee in pairs too | Dec 12 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Old page: http://schestowitz.com/Misc_Pages/Efficiency/ | Dec 12 19:04 |
| schestowitz | [was like 20 when I wrote it] | Dec 12 19:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm | Dec 12 19:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah | Dec 12 19:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm too old for efficiency | Dec 12 19:08 |
| schestowitz | You're not old | Dec 12 19:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | haha | Dec 12 19:09 |
| schestowitz | For all I know you're aroudn 40 | Dec 12 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I'm still in my 20s... not yet with the responsibilities of having kids and stuff | Dec 12 19:10 |
| schestowitz | I know people who only had kids at 50 or later | Dec 12 19:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Dec 12 19:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah | Dec 12 19:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | either too young or too old are bad. | Dec 12 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Yuppism | Dec 12 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Or dead | Dec 12 19:11 |
| schestowitz | See, almost all the world's richest people will die before me | Dec 12 19:11 |
| schestowitz | Poor them | Dec 12 19:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok i'm going to get breakfast then on to your problem | Dec 12 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: thanks! | Dec 12 19:15 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: hey! | Dec 12 19:15 |
| Ender2070 | hi | Dec 12 19:18 |
| schestowitz | I'm denting about Canada suppression ATM | Dec 12 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: NOBODY was hurt in g20 | Dec 12 19:19 |
| Ender2070 | i'm not surprised | Dec 12 19:20 |
| Ender2070 | except mentally | Dec 12 19:20 |
| Ender2070 | I'm trying out the tweetdeck app for chromium | Dec 12 19:22 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you still don't believe me do you :) | Dec 12 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Hehe: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6106964/conspiracy_theory_with_jesse_ventura.html | Dec 12 19:38 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: about the program something? | Dec 12 19:38 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: broad uestion w/o the context.. :-) | Dec 12 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: irc servers | Dec 12 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: think like the enemy for a moment... | Dec 12 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: look at all the network hubs they have | Dec 12 19:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: central points where they can start to roll up a network | Dec 12 19:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: for ex | Dec 12 19:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: paypal | Dec 12 19:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | instant list of supporters. | Dec 12 19:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | make it a crime? hand list to police. | Dec 12 19:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | same applies to all mirror operators | Dec 12 19:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | gets better. use logs of fake mirror to round up your citizens. | Dec 12 19:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | you can be sure Russia and China do this.. why not US? | Dec 12 19:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | why not UK? | Dec 12 19:40 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Dec 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | So a bit like police filiming protests with $5000 cams | Dec 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | They also seized some 77 domains | Dec 12 19:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | very much so. happened at g20 as well. | Dec 12 19:41 |
| schestowitz | For them to log whoever visits these | Dec 12 19:41 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Dec 12 19:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | data collection. | Dec 12 19:42 |
| schestowitz | It can be matched to arrested person later | Dec 12 19:42 |
| schestowitz | "Protesting is not a crime, young men, but we see you visited <abc>" | Dec 12 19:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | exactly, we "see". | Dec 12 19:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | "You can protest at g20. But be aware, you will be filmed." | Dec 12 19:42 |
| FurnaceBoy | middle class kids will be dissuaded | Dec 12 19:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | can be rounded up later | Dec 12 19:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | e.g. as border checkpoint | Dec 12 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | where facial recognition is in use | Dec 12 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | at* | Dec 12 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | or, mall -- same deal. | Dec 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Alien Arena 2011 Is Coming Next Week http://is.gd/iCTYk great news for !linux ☛ gamers | Dec 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes | Dec 12 19:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you mentioned fingerprinting at US border control. They both fingerprint and take picture since at least 2005 | Dec 12 19:44 |
| schestowitz | The Nazis did similar things | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | everybody did similar things. | Dec 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | But it turned out they didn't keep records on as many people as was belived | Dec 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | believed | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | stasi | Dec 12 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Maybe 20% | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | ogpu | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | fsb | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | stasi supposedly had files on 20,30%? | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's ENORMOUS, schestowitz | Dec 12 19:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's way more than the politically active % of any society | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | They didn't have browsing habits | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe readings | Dec 12 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | And people can now read confidntial cables | Dec 12 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | look at what Bush did in US libraries. | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | The Nazis burned 40 million books IIRC | Dec 12 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | examined borrowing records, schestowitz | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Not just the Soviets | Dec 12 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | and arrested based on them. | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | This is undereported | Dec 12 19:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: under Bush, libraries received secret letters. | Dec 12 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Book burning often attributed to others | Dec 12 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they weren't allowed to talk about any contact with FBI | Dec 12 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: people were arrested in libraries and based on their borrowing records | Dec 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | AT&T... | Dec 12 19:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and under obama, probably still are | Dec 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Klein is now low profile | Dec 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Probably thrown out of the system for 15 minutes of fame | Dec 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | That's how they want it | Dec 12 19:47 |
| schestowitz | With Assange, they put him on a pedestal by accident | Dec 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | [19:47] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: people were arrested in libraries and based on their borrowing records | Dec 12 19:48 |
| schestowitz | At least not electrocuted | Dec 12 19:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | maybe they were? | Dec 12 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | how would we know? | Dec 12 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | the same system does that | Dec 12 19:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and i notice you're on 64 bit system | Dec 12 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: CEntos 5 | Dec 12 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so i'll have to use Macbook for VM | Dec 12 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | (not this 32 bit PC) | Dec 12 19:51 |
| schestowitz | I'm quite sure it centos 5 | Dec 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Unless it was upgraded in-place | Dec 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | THe kernel # says it can't be 6 | Dec 12 19:54 |
| schestowitz | But not sure 4, either | Dec 12 19:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: cat /etc/redhat-release | Dec 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | CentOS release 5.5 (Final) | Dec 12 19:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok kewl | Dec 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | latest 5 | Dec 12 19:55 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60297754 | Dec 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz @richslxh I don't get why the initiative of #openleaks ☛ should be despised. Let's see. The world needs different points of view" | Dec 12 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | [19:55] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 178 dents! | Dec 12 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Somehow I still lead, despite the housework | Dec 12 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | hahahaha | Dec 12 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | "the world needs different points of view" | Dec 12 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | HOW FUCKING STUPID | Dec 12 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | what a stupid comment!!!!! | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | the world needs different points of view" <---------- EXCEPT WIKILEAKS. | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | jesus | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | did nobody notice that wikileaks is a forbidden point of view??? | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | fucking hell | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | plus, | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's NOT A POINT OF VIEW. | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's an outlet of FACTS. | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | can people really be this stupid, schestowitz ? | Dec 12 20:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: keep slamming openleaks | Dec 12 20:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: what a joke | Dec 12 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I never trusted daniel | Dec 12 20:24 |
| schestowitz | And IIRC someone there had a Microsoft connection, let me check | Dec 12 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Dec 12 20:25 |
| schestowitz | It's Anke Domscheit-Berg | Dec 12 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Relation? | Dec 12 20:25 |
| schestowitz | ^Microoft lobbyist | Dec 12 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/08/27/fake-representation-of-foss/ | Dec 12 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | Oops | Dec 12 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Wrong URL | Dec 12 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/09/26/anke-domscheit-berg-et-al/ | Dec 12 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: What Everyone Needs to Know About Wikileaks and Microsoft Lobbyists Like Anke Domscheit-Berg, Zuck, and Maybe Florian Müller | Techrights .::. Size~: 115.08 KB | Dec 12 20:34 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I wouldn't ignore Daniel, either | Dec 12 20:46 |
| schestowitz | I put pieces up there with parts that show the intention that's good | Dec 12 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Remember he did help the core team | Dec 12 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Like IOError and others | Dec 12 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he looks for fame as leader of something else | Dec 12 20:47 |
| schestowitz | First he writes a book | Dec 12 20:47 |
| schestowitz | And gets some press | Dec 12 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks is very secretive except Daniel at the time in Europe and Julian | Dec 12 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Julian had gatherings and protests for him, Daniel did not | Dec 12 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Jacob only has around 5k followers in twitter and he's obscure to most | Dec 12 20:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm wokring on the vm here, had some difficulties (vps crashed again) | Dec 12 21:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | almost done downloading centos image | Dec 12 21:26 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 12 21:42 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: finally centos 5.5 installed | Dec 12 22:51 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz | twitter.com/ender2070/status/14075653137637376 "none of the people currently tracking you are offering a free netbook" | Dec 12 22:58 |
| schestowitz | twitter.com/ender2070/status/14076393222574080 "kind of like being like the most racist person in a kkk rally" | Dec 12 22:58 |
| schestowitz | re "I've managed to be most prolific poster in identi.ca for 10 days in a row  http://identi.ca/mrdenticator" | Dec 12 22:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Dec 12 22:58 |
| schestowitz | huh? | Dec 12 22:58 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20024807-265.html | Dec 12 23:00 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: th default php 5.1.6 on centos 5.5 has curl, libxml ... u should only need json and dom | Dec 12 23:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you can check this like so: | Dec 12 23:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | php -r 'phpinfo();' |grep -e ^CURL -e ^libXML | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | php -r 'phpinfo();' |grep -i -e ^CURL -e ^libXML | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | $ php -r 'phpinfo();' |grep -i -e ^CURL -e ^libXML | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | curl | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | cURL support => enabled | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | cURL Information => 7.20.0 | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | libxml Version => 2.7.3 | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | libxml | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | libXML support => active | Dec 12 23:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | libXML Compiled Version => 2.7.3 | Dec 12 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | libXML Loaded Version => 20703 | Dec 12 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | libXML streams => enabled | Dec 12 23:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | libxml2 Version => 2.7.3 | Dec 12 23:08 |
| schestowitz | CURL support => enabled | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | CURL Information => libcurl/7.15.5 OpenSSL/0.9.8b zlib/1.2.3 libidn/0.6.5 | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libXML support => active | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libXML Version => 2.6.26 | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libXML streams => enabled | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | php -r 'phpinfo();' |grep -i -e ^CURL -e ^libXML | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libxml | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libXML support => active | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libXML Version => 2.6.26 | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libXML streams => enabled | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | libxml2 Version => 2.6.26 | Dec 12 23:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok good. stand by, seeing how to get json and dom | Dec 12 23:10 |
| schestowitz | thanks! | Dec 12 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Almost there now | Dec 12 23:11 |
| schestowitz | The Google search function was used a lot before, in the main channel | Dec 12 23:11 |
| schestowitz | But it only worked when I ran the bots from my desktop, which I still can do | Dec 12 23:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | well the tweet/dent stuff needs dom. so we may as well figure this out. | Dec 12 23:12 |
| schestowitz | yeah, will last for years | Dec 12 23:21 |
| schestowitz | I told tony when he made this bot, it'll process thousands of URLs | Dec 12 23:21 |
| schestowitz | It also makes backups of these so if they vanish I get a quick grab | Dec 12 23:21 |
| schestowitz | He added that as a feaure | Dec 12 23:22 |
| schestowitz | *ture | Dec 12 23:22 |
| schestowitz | We have like 400MB of IRC archives | Dec 12 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Heh. We could make a CD-ROM... for torrent | Dec 12 23:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. like i said, i improved the archive feature so it doesn't only archive html | Dec 12 23:23 |
| schestowitz | ogg sometimes crashes the bot | Dec 12 23:23 |
| schestowitz | So if I'm on vacation it can be absent for days | Dec 12 23:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | i can make it more robust. | Dec 12 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's the kind of thing i've been cleaning up | Dec 12 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Does Tony already know? | Dec 12 23:29 |
| schestowitz | diff Class.phIRCe.php-old Class.phIRCe.php | wc | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | 454 1697 18005 | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | merging would be hard | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Mine was slightly hacked (as in tweaked) | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I'll keep it around | Dec 12 23:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i don't think you were using the same version i started with. | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | as memorabilia :-) | Dec 12 23:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i worked on latest in repo | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Likely | Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz | But PHP is not my lang | Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz | I only hack on it a bit | Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz | wordpress too | Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz | php-nuke | Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Gallery... | Dec 12 23:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | hm | Dec 12 23:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | that can't be good | Dec 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz | chanserv | Dec 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe incoming meltdown at freenode... | Dec 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: you'll love this: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703493504576007982500939482.html?mod=googlenews_wsj | Dec 12 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | "promise" | Dec 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Carl Icahn | Dec 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz | ROTFL | Dec 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Lock up this criminal in a cell | Dec 12 23:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | eugh | Dec 12 23:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | i suppose we should have predicted this | Dec 12 23:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | it is actually a distraction from social justice | Dec 12 23:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: watch BinaBecker RT my latest. : | Dec 12 23:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz | yes | Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Richest people - love them | Dec 12 23:44 |
| schestowitz | They are your friends | Dec 12 23:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | they're better than us! | Dec 12 23:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | money is the scorecard! | Dec 12 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | Fight the "arabs", the "middle class" (what's left of it), the "unamerican people" | Dec 12 23:44 |
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| qu1j0t3 | heh, well it was RT'd first by @louvice | Dec 12 23:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | Bina must be asleep @ the wheel. :) | Dec 12 23:44 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <schestowitz> "Don't attack MArk. You're attacking schools." | Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <schestowitz> "Whenever you express disdain for Bill, a black child dies from measles in African" | Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <schestowitz> Africa | Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <schestowitz> These people use moral extortion of sorts and then use the corporate press to normalise the press | Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:45] <-- jono has left this server (Quit: Ex-Chat). | Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:46] <schestowitz> Oops. | Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz | [23:46] <schestowitz> Wrong channel :-) | Dec 12 23:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly | Dec 12 23:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | wrong channel? haha, you just proved again that TR <> BN-soc | Dec 12 23:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | some things don't fly in there. | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | hahahahah and notice jono quit? | Dec 12 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's not a coincidence. | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's a perfect illustration of the "sorry, can't touch poli" type. | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | i bet he's not back for a while; | Dec 12 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he's shy | Dec 12 23:48 |
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| qu1j0t3 | he's SCARED ppl will connect him to your views. | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he quit because he's SCARED of the logs. | Dec 12 23:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not a coincidence. | Dec 12 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, what scares you most | Dec 12 23:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | Exactly. | Dec 12 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Like mentioning to people who made their merchandise | Dec 12 23:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's what he's most scared of: reputation | Dec 12 23:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | "jono bacon hangs out with radicals/activists/wikileaks supporters" | Dec 12 23:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | shit, i'm tempted to say that in the channel. what a joke. | Dec 12 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Go there | Dec 12 23:49 |
| schestowitz | jono came back | Dec 12 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Just a coincidence | Dec 12 23:53 |
| schestowitz | He's not that shy | Dec 12 23:53 |
| schestowitz | He used to do LUG Radio | Dec 12 23:53 |
| schestowitz | But he needs to be careful what he says now cause he has some foes quote-mining him | Dec 12 23:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | not that shy? | Dec 12 23:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | hiding behind GuestXXXX? | Dec 12 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I think connection issue | Dec 12 23:56 |
| schestowitz | dropping off default nick | Dec 12 23:56 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter | Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I think jono supports us quietly | Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to him on the phone a few times, he knows the drill. We're constantly being daemonised | Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Despite people combing the IRC logs looking for dirt, we do all right, transparently to the extreem | Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Some people value it, some try to exploit it | Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz | And some troll in identica is now doing the same cr** when fed trolls last year and in 2008 | Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz | *which | Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it's like those madmen who come to IRC to radicalise | Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Equivalent of anarchists with bats entering protests of 15 year old asking for scholarship assistence | Dec 12 23:59 |
| schestowitz | *tance | Dec 12 23:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, he deliberately quit | Dec 12 23:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | anyway -- these instructions do work for installing json, schestowitz | Dec 12 23:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.arckid.com/blog/amfphp/how-to-add-install-json-support-to-php-on-centos-in-10-steps/ | Dec 12 23:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: How to add / install JSON support to PHP on CentOS in 10 Steps .::. Size~: 28.58 KB | Dec 12 23:59 |
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