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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: tell these people;Dec 16 00:00
schestowitz"GIMP does the right thing"Dec 16 00:00
schestowitzExpected and rational behaviour (wontimport)Dec 16 00:00
FurnaceBoyi'd fix Gimp but that would be more investment than i can afford; i'm not being paid for thisDec 16 00:00
schestowitzDoes PS not export in some format that's less proprietary?Dec 16 00:01
schestowitzJust layersDec 16 00:01
FurnaceBoynot layersDec 16 00:01
FurnaceBoyeven layered TIFF uses blobsDec 16 00:01
schestowitzMehDec 16 00:01
FurnaceBoyit seems gimp's importer is deficient.Dec 16 00:01
FurnaceBoybut i don't have time to fix that.Dec 16 00:01
FurnaceBoytoo complicated.Dec 16 00:01
schestowitzSVG supoorted in PS?Dec 16 00:01
FurnaceBoysvg is vector. no help for layered images.Dec 16 00:01
schestowitzI knowDec 16 00:01
schestowitzBut GIMP impots svgDec 16 00:01
schestowitz*importsDec 16 00:01
schestowitzCan PS do that?Dec 16 00:02
FurnaceBoyi believe so. illustrator certainly reads and writes svg.Dec 16 00:02
schestowitzRemember you need one GPL'd exporterDec 16 00:02
FurnaceBoywell, i wrote the leading gpl psd parserDec 16 00:02
schestowitzAnd it's then done for all the rest, like PDF interpreter/rendering engineDec 16 00:02
FurnaceBoythis is just one more face of it, to xcf nativeDec 16 00:02
schestowitzOr HTML rendererDec 16 00:02
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15189757621444609Dec 16 00:05
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @schestowitz that's awesomeDec 16 00:05
FurnaceBoyright, well, i'm adding to the gpl toolchain to escape from psd.Dec 16 00:05
schestowitzre "Operation Payback’s next DDoS target: Fax machines http://is.gd/iOoEi http://is.gd/iOoGZ digital mob, good or bad?"Dec 16 00:05
FurnaceBoyin a very direct way.Dec 16 00:05
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Operation Payback’s next DDoS target: Fax machines | Netcraft .::. Size~: 30.83 KBDec 16 00:05
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Anonymous Now Attacking Corporate Fax Machines - Slashdot .::. Size~: 172.92 KBDec 16 00:05
schestowitzprovocation maybe, I don't like DDOSDec 16 00:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: just ignore himDec 16 00:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: there must be something else going on in his lifeDec 16 00:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that's usually tne explanation for meltdowns like thisDec 16 00:06
schestowitzHe's fronting for Fedora, which won't be good for them nowDec 16 00:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/15196469795487744Dec 16 00:08
TechrightsBot-scCould not fetch Twitter pageDec 16 00:09
schestowitzI see now why this happensDec 16 00:09
schestowitzIt takes time to be postedDec 16 00:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/15196469795487744Dec 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: ♺ @glynmoody Apache Project Extras - http://bit.ly/e07pr3 "#OSS projects related to #Apache Software Foundation projects..."Dec 16 00:09
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Apache Extras FAQ .::. Size~: 6.13 KBDec 16 00:09
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FurnaceBoysebsebseb: heyheyheyDec 16 01:20
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: Hi about to dent some good Ubuntu newsDec 16 01:21
sebsebsebwhich is yeah a change, since uhmmm I guess 9.04Dec 16 01:21
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: so yeah see what I just dented  I guessDec 16 01:33
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schestowitzTHe troll moves to other targets... LOLDec 16 06:20
schestowitze.g. https://identi.ca/notice/60507950Dec 16 06:21
TechrightsBot-sc@rclayton's status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 03:55:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @ender2070 @schestowitz claims these same people try to harm/destroy Linux. Total bullshit. They all do more to promote Linux than he does.Dec 16 06:21
qu1j0t3...Dec 16 06:49
schestowitzHelloDec 16 06:51
schestowitzMany like the above... Brandon become a burden. Oughtn't reply....Dec 16 06:52
schestowitzBut anyway, I start with lots of denting todayDec 16 06:52
schestowitzWikileaks has too much momentum t stop now, I thinkDec 16 06:52
schestowitz"@laurelrusswurm] @richslxh adding his name publicly to the list of people willing to stand bail adds weight to defense argument FOR bail"Dec 16 06:55
schestowitzHeartwarming how they get so much supportDec 16 06:55
schestowitzStreet protests tooDec 16 06:55
schestowitz"Guardian: Swedish prosecutors plan to launch an appeal against the decision to grant #Assange bail"Dec 16 06:57
qu1j0t3^^ that may be out of date.Dec 16 07:15
qu1j0t3didn't you see the report that Swedes denied blocking bail, and blamed UK prosecutor for that?Dec 16 07:16
qu1j0t3sighDec 16 07:16
qu1j0t3this is a farceDec 16 07:16
schestowitzThis is SwedenDec 16 07:17
schestowitzTHIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dec 16 07:18
schestowitz"RT @jimsciuttoABC Swedish prosecutors will not appeal #Wikileaks >>here's hoping they've got the message"Dec 16 07:36
schestowitz"-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The drama unfolds. Assange back at court. Appeal in 48 hours. http://is.gd/iK3Ce"Dec 16 07:44
schestowitzSee?Dec 16 07:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Julian Assange granted bail: live updates | News | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 290.88 KBDec 16 07:44
schestowitzWhat a clusterfunkDec 16 07:44
qu1j0t3:/Dec 16 07:48
schestowitzhttp://www.azarask.in/blog/post/leaving-mozilla/ "Come January 1st, however, I’m leaving to found a new company. Massive Health."Dec 16 08:01
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Leaving Mozilla, Starting Massive Health « Aza on Design .::. Size~: 92.85 KBDec 16 08:01
schestowitzhttp://www.azarask.in/blog/post/leaving-mozilla/Dec 16 08:02
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Leaving Mozilla, Starting Massive Health « Aza on Design .::. Size~: 92.85 KBDec 16 08:02
schestowitz> http://massivehealth.com/Dec 16 08:02
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Massive Health .::. Size~: 4.9 KBDec 16 08:02
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/#!/massivehealthDec 16 08:03
TechrightsBot-scNot a tweet?Dec 16 08:03
schestowitzHe's there...Dec 16 08:03
schestowitzI think of starting something of this type, but competing with the likes of GE and Philips in equipment is nearly impossibleDec 16 08:03
qu1j0t3schestowitz: oh, right. i fixed that bot issue alreadyDec 16 08:21
qu1j0t3i can send you an updateDec 16 08:21
qu1j0t3didn't think it was important enoughDec 16 08:22
*qu1j0t3 waves niteDec 16 08:22
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schestowitzMiguel's drones still at it... https://twitter.com/spectrumgomas/status/15303917151719425Dec 16 08:36
TechrightsBot-sc@spectrumgomas: @picandocodigo  De momento @schestowitz de esa explicación de Icaza no dice nada, ni ha respondido a la pregunta que hago yo.Dec 16 08:36
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schestowitzNice film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69NSfF5qm3EDec 16 09:45
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  YouTube - WikiRebels -- The Documentary (original SVT.se) [subtítulos en Español]  .::. Size~: 125.22 KBDec 16 09:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15373706545074176Dec 16 11:58
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @schestowitz business as usualDec 16 11:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15373955619622912Dec 16 11:59
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @schestowitz I agree, both products can't be audited eitherDec 16 11:59
schestowitz"/@satipera] Does capitalism work even in the USA? 24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit http://ur1.ca/2lb9m #politics #economics"Dec 16 12:11
TechrightsBot-scTitle: 24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit – A Rotting, Post-Industrial, Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland .::. Size~: 138.12 KBDec 16 12:11
schestowitzOne stalker of mine is trolling again, creating sockpuppets... http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/63b759d738360c1b#Dec 16 12:25
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups  .::. Size~: 29.14 KBDec 16 12:25
schestowitzIdiotsDec 16 12:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15381828869300224Dec 16 12:39
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: "@schestowitz: Chrome OS can use "security" as excuse for extreme lockin. It's not good for hacker culture." #fsf #propaganda ubuntu worksDec 16 12:39
schestowitzcheap shot at FSF?Dec 16 12:39
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MinceRwhat has the fsf have to do with it?Dec 16 12:59
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MinceRhttp://www.codinghorror.com/blog/gawker-hack-release-notes.htmlDec 16 14:04
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Gawker Hack Release Notes - Coding Horror .::. Size~: 225.17 KBDec 16 14:04
schestowitzMicrosoft's dudeDec 16 14:10
MinceRwho?Dec 16 14:13
schestowitzcodinghorrorDec 16 14:31
schestowitzHmm... something is going on and my nick is highlighted spuriouslyDec 16 14:33
schestowitzI don't wanna be part of it..Dec 16 14:33
schestowitz"laurelrusswurm : @azuthian what, by going around and bullying them? No. I have a life that is increasingly behind.Dec 16 14:33
schestowitz"Dec 16 14:33
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60536557Dec 16 14:34
TechrightsBot-sc@Azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 14:13:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @laurelrusswurm that's why they go after @schestowitz, because he exposes themDec 16 14:34
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60536787Dec 16 14:34
TechrightsBot-sc@Laurel Russwurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 14:18:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @azuthian Because I consider @schestowitz an honourable & good man, who I have *never* seen lie, I challenged on personal behaviour.Dec 16 14:34
MinceRthe gawker network seems to be allied with crAppleDec 16 14:34
MinceRso let them kill each otherDec 16 14:34
schestowitzWhoaDec 16 14:34
schestowitzI didn't realise there was a whole THREAD there http://identi.ca/conversation/59860808#notice-60536557Dec 16 14:35
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 174.87 KBDec 16 14:35
schestowitzNow I need to readDec 16 14:35
schestowitzMinceR: yeahDec 16 14:35
MinceR:>Dec 16 14:35
schestowitzBUT....Dec 16 14:35
schestowitzBut Gizmodo is no mate of AppleDec 16 14:35
MinceRit's not?Dec 16 14:35
schestowitzHahaDec 16 14:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/60483321Dec 16 14:36
TechrightsBot-sc@Daniel Aguayo Catalán (danto)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Dec-10 18:46:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @migueldeicaza can you really prove he is wrong or are you just trolling in revenge?Dec 16 14:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/60483321Dec 16 14:36
TechrightsBot-sc@Daniel Aguayo Catalán (danto)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Dec-10 18:46:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @migueldeicaza can you really prove he is wrong or are you just trolling in revenge?Dec 16 14:36
schestowitzSee?Dec 16 14:36
schestowitzEven a former Novell dev defends me in the face of those liesDec 16 14:37
MinceRperhaps it has something to do with him being "former" :>Dec 16 14:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/60493111Dec 16 14:37
TechrightsBot-sc@Hubert Figuiere (hub)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Dec-10 22:16:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @rclayton I never claimed I was bullied by schestowitz. I just said that *IF* I had been bullied, it was likely by schestowitz.Dec 16 14:38
MinceRalso, remember the gizmodo rant about their readers/commenters, that was particularly nastyDec 16 14:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/60493534Dec 16 14:39
TechrightsBot-sc@satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Dec-10 22:26:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @laurelrusswurm lefty, clayton and miguel are like the anti techrights 3 amigosDec 16 14:39
schestowitzNice of her...Dec 16 14:39
MinceR:)Dec 16 14:39
schestowitzMinceR: which gizmodo rant?Dec 16 14:39
schestowitzI remember Ars doing itDec 16 14:39
MinceRhttp://gizmodo.com/5687692/you-write-bias-journalism-and-i-read-derpDec 16 14:39
TechrightsBot-scTitle: You Write 'Bias Journalism' and I Read 'Derp' .::. Size~: 104.91 KBDec 16 14:40
schestowitzBrandon again with the "Marxist" thing... http://identi.ca/notice/60507071Dec 16 14:40
TechrightsBot-sc@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 03:34:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @rclayton She has some sense, but what you say conflicts with the #GNU #Socialist #Religion - Watch the politics they output, not so #freeDec 16 14:40
schestowitzMinceR: why are gizmodo and engadget so popular at all?Dec 16 14:40
MinceRdunnoDec 16 14:40
schestowitzThey just write short scoop on products from afarDec 16 14:40
schestowitzI never got the deal w/ themDec 16 14:41
schestowitzTHey hardly make articlesDec 16 14:41
schestowitzRare reviews--yesDec 16 14:41
MinceRprobably because they have the means to gather info on future productsDec 16 14:41
schestowitzI guess soDec 16 14:52
schestowitzTHey also have run for many yearsDec 16 14:52
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338599/Bupa-staff-tormented-dementia-victims-recorded-mobile-phones.htmlDec 16 14:54
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Bupa staff tormented dementia victims and recorded it on mobile phones | Mail Online .::. Size~: 78.64 KBDec 16 14:54
schestowitz*LOL* https://identi.ca/notice/60539590Dec 16 15:14
TechrightsBot-sc@Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 15:09:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @azuthian @laurelrusswurm @schestowitz Actually all three of you are nuts, especially Laurel. #mono isn't the danger, #Microsoft is.Dec 16 15:14
schestowitzOk, he's just trolling, I thinkDec 16 15:14
schestowitzANd Mono is partly written by Microsoft..Dec 16 15:14
MinceR"just"? :>Dec 16 15:14
schestowitzOh no: http://thenextweb.com/uk/2010/12/15/transport-for-london-moves-tube-data-to-microsofts-cloud-platform/Dec 16 15:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Transport For London moves Tube data to Microsoft’s Cloud platform  .::. Size~: 98.04 KBDec 16 15:16
schestowitzNow it's going underDec 16 15:16
MinceRlol, nice punDec 16 15:18
schestowitzMaybe use this to Kick OrBan? http://www.balkanleaks.eu/Dec 16 15:25
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  .::. Size~: 0.16 KBDec 16 15:25
MinceRrevealing info won't work in this caseDec 16 15:27
MinceReven the commies were so unscrupulous that revealing the PM's admission that they lied in the election campaign didn't change muchDec 16 15:27
MinceRthe nazis are even worseDec 16 15:27
schestowitzwho are these?Dec 16 15:28
schestowitz.hu BNP?Dec 16 15:28
MinceRcommies: mszp (also szdsz)Dec 16 15:28
MinceRnazis: fidesz and kdnp (which exists only technically)Dec 16 15:28
MinceRalso, jobbik is allied with fideszDec 16 15:28
MinceRszdsz and mdf are practically deadDec 16 15:28
MinceRunsure about lmp, they seemed to have links to scientologyDec 16 15:29
MinceRpractically we have a two-party system with mszp and fidesz getting power alternatelyDec 16 15:29
schestowitz"@ruiseabra] ♺ @robmyers: "Why is WikiLeaks employing a well-known Holocaust denier and his disgraced son?" - http://is.gd/iMHPT"Dec 16 15:29
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Assange's Extremist Employees - Reason Magazine .::. Size~: 143.83 KBDec 16 15:29
schestowitzWikipedia has no "employees"Dec 16 15:29
MinceRjobbik is more extremist than fidesz/kdnpDec 16 15:30
schestowitzjobbik made that Linux distro?Dec 16 15:30
MinceRwhat distro?Dec 16 15:30
schestowitzImp from DOOM.EXE?Dec 16 15:30
MinceRnopeDec 16 15:31
schestowitzMinceR: old news...Dec 16 15:31
schestowitzhttp://www.hungarianambiance.com/2010/10/hungarian-national-guard-jobbik-and.htmlDec 16 15:31
schestowitzHereDec 16 15:31
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Hungarian Ambiance: The Hungarian National Guard, Jobbik and several patriotic organizations paid tribute to the heroes of the 1956 revolution at “Újtemető” .::. Size~: 97.32 KBDec 16 15:31
schestowitzYou told me they were extreme at the timeDec 16 15:31
schestowitzJobbik: "We make jobs"Dec 16 15:31
schestowitzOrBan; "we imitate Jobs"Dec 16 15:32
MinceRcan't watch videos nowDec 16 15:32
schestowitz"[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] (2/2) The real bad thing is that father & son contributed to spreading fake leaks using !wikileaks name. Not their personal beliefs."Dec 16 15:33
schestowitzNow, *that* would be terrible tooDec 16 15:33
schestowitzFake mateial in wikileaks can collapseDec 16 15:33
schestowitzImpersonal message..... personalistion fail:Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz*sationDec 16 15:34
schestowitz> DearDec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz> I'm contacting you to ask you for a Matlab program. I would like toDec 16 15:34
schestowitz> trasfer some data to html.Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz> If it is possible, please send me a program and tell me how to use it. IDec 16 15:34
schestowitz> send you an attach file with some numbers which are changed every month.Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz>Dec 16 15:34
schestowitz> How can I transfer data to html?Dec 16 15:34
schestowitzFrom Jurij Rici, finančni sektorDec 16 15:34
MinceRhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/15/wikileaked.jpgDec 16 15:50
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeDec 16 15:50
schestowitz]DentedDec 16 15:52
FurnaceBoyschestowitz | Even a former Novell dev defends me in the face of those lies      <-- exactly. this is what happens when you leave Miguel twisting in the wind, people start to wonder why he's obsessed with you.Dec 16 16:45
FurnaceBoyif YOU respond, ppl conclude, "oh look, he's just trying to hassle Miguel"Dec 16 16:46
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: see http://identi.ca/conversation/59860808Dec 16 16:50
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 180.85 KBDec 16 16:50
schestowitzLast nighyt you vanished after muttering something about bug being fixedDec 16 16:50
schestowitzANd I was eager to replyDec 16 16:50
schestowitzThough you had already leftDec 16 16:50
FurnaceBoyyes,  i fixed that bug w/ twitter urlsDec 16 16:51
schestowitzDid twitter fix *their* big too? :-)Dec 16 16:51
FurnaceBoywhich?Dec 16 16:51
schestowitzBTW, I'm done coding for todayDec 16 16:51
schestowitzSo now I'll dent at good pace, until the evening, maybe blog items coming too...Dec 16 16:51
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: scroll up/open log to end of last night(GMT)Dec 16 16:52
schestowitzI can't find it nowDec 16 16:52
schestowitzOr maybe it was some time differentDec 16 16:53
FurnaceBoyi don't have it.Dec 16 16:53
schestowitzI'm getting some off messages today from strangers... like this one:Dec 16 16:54
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Dec 16 16:54
schestowitz>Dec 16 16:54
schestowitz> I would like to ask you if you can recommend me a program for forecastingDec 16 16:54
schestowitz> the behavior of trends (options, stocks, commodities, currencies, futures)Dec 16 16:54
schestowitz> that really workDec 16 16:54
schestowitz> with very excellent accuracy.Dec 16 16:54
schestowitz>Dec 16 16:55
schestowitz> Would be nice to hear your honest proposal.Dec 16 16:55
schestowitz>Dec 16 16:55
schestowitz> Warmest regards from Stockholm,Dec 16 16:55
FurnaceBoywtfDec 16 16:55
FurnaceBoywell, if you want to give him a helpful cite,Dec 16 16:55
FurnaceBoythere was a /. thread. let me find the linkDec 16 16:55
FurnaceBoyhttp://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1905766&cid=34519308Dec 16 16:56
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Ex-Goldman Sachs Programmer Found Guilty - Slashdot .::. Size~: 48.01 KBDec 16 16:56
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: last night i stayed up till 3am , got half the psd->xcf (gimp) converter done, thoughDec 16 16:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60545262Dec 16 16:57
TechrightsBot-scNot a dent?Dec 16 16:57
schestowitzBug?Dec 16 16:57
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: much more interesting than $DAYJOBDec 16 16:57
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: nice!Dec 16 16:57
*FurnaceBoy checksDec 16 16:57
schestowitzAlso contributes to millions of peopleDec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: not sure about that one.Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: it redirects to a statusnet siteDec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyhttp://identi.ca/notice/60545262Dec 16 16:58
TechrightsBot-scNot a dent?Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyhm!Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyinteresting.Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyi'll have to look into this.Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoythanks!Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoy(this is not the bug i was referrring to having fixed, btw)Dec 16 16:58
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/annacbsantosDec 16 16:59
TechrightsBot-scNot a tweet?Dec 16 16:59
FurnaceBoy^^ this is the one i fixed.Dec 16 16:59
schestowitzOh, I see...Dec 16 17:01
schestowitzBTWDec 16 17:01
schestowitzPush those changes to the Web somehowDec 16 17:01
schestowitzIf !tony, then branch/forkDec 16 17:01
schestowitzThis is modern stuffDec 16 17:01
schestowitzCause microblogging is something not many IRC bot were made to handleDec 16 17:02
schestowitzSame with the bots in the other channel, orphaned (dev stepped aside)Dec 16 17:02
schestowitzIf you want some perl program to take over, there's that chance for youDec 16 17:02
schestowitzYou could mashup your twitter+ircDec 16 17:03
FurnaceBoyi won't forkDec 16 17:04
FurnaceBoyhe can't be THAT hard to find.Dec 16 17:04
FurnaceBoyhis text invites contributions, it's not fair to fork it.Dec 16 17:04
schestowitzI know...Dec 16 17:04
schestowitzBut also, if he has not been active in 14 months he could put yours in placeDec 16 17:05
schestowitzIt's when both sides go separate ways that it's a fork and not a successorDec 16 17:05
schestowitzWordPress is successor of b2Dec 16 17:05
schestowitzCause Michel stopped hacking on b2Dec 16 17:06
FurnaceBoyhe may not agree with µ-blogging enhancementsDec 16 17:06
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: https://identi.ca/notice/60546990Dec 16 17:13
TechrightsBot-sc@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 17:12:39 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @sleepynate "Time magazine chose some guy named Zuckerberg as Person of the Year.."- Jonas !q TIME POLL named #ASSANGE ; TIME MAG=WIMPSDec 16 17:13
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: you're insane for not liking Mr. Z... he's MAN OF THE YEAR!Dec 16 17:13
schestowitzHe's famous, so he's goodDec 16 17:14
schestowitz:)Dec 16 17:14
schestowitz /sarcasmDec 16 17:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60547223Dec 16 17:26
TechrightsBot-sc@David "Lefty" Schlesinger (lefty)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 17:17:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I pointed out _numerous_ lies and misstatements in the commentary I left on your site. So you banned me.Dec 16 17:26
schestowitzLiarDec 16 17:26
schestowitzHe was banned for repeatedly threatening me and othersDec 16 17:26
FurnaceBoyiiiiiiiiiiignoreDec 16 17:26
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 16 17:26
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: community is invaluable; i just received corrections to a Polish translation of my page.Dec 16 17:27
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: for my most popular program, i have web pages in 18-odd languagesDec 16 17:27
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: and I am looking for moreDec 16 17:27
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: translations done by communityDec 16 17:28
schestowitzSame hereDec 16 17:28
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2009/03/17/cbc-budget-moore.htmlDec 16 17:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle: CBC News - Media - CBC approves budget; cuts expected .::. Size~: 41.28 KBDec 16 17:36
schestowitzforced propagandaDec 16 17:36
FurnaceBoythere's worseDec 16 17:37
FurnaceBoythere's a plan to start a right wing propaganda station funded by mandatory cable feesDec 16 17:37
schestowitzcable fee?Dec 16 17:39
schestowitzNot aerial?Dec 16 17:39
schestowitzCause with cable you can just tell them you don't use it and tell em to shove itDec 16 17:40
schestowitzIn the UK, having transmitter/receiver on a PC is enough to encumber owner with TV tax ("you're guilty fine")Dec 16 17:41
schestowitzOh, here goes the disgusting troll again:Dec 16 17:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60547725Dec 16 17:42
TechrightsBot-sc@David "Lefty" Schlesinger (lefty)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 17:26:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter A clear, flat-out lie, and yet—even with @schestowitz's non-"correction"—it's still right up there at the top of the list. =/Dec 16 17:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60547864Dec 16 17:42
TechrightsBot-sc@David "Lefty" Schlesinger (lefty)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 17:28:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter You asked to be shown a lie. @schestowitz, rather than remove it, has left his libels to be crawled for Google in perpetuity.Dec 16 17:42
schestowitzMore BSDec 16 17:42
schestowitzAnd importantly:Dec 16 17:42
schestowitzNo example of liesDec 16 17:42
schestowitzhttp://www.friends.ca/ILoveCBC/Dec 16 17:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Support the CBC :: Sign the Petition! .::. Size~: 8.09 KBDec 16 17:44
FurnaceBoyMono is a wedge issue, like WL. to split the 'centrists' (don't rock the boat! I trust Micro^H^H^H the government!) from the 'extremists'Dec 16 17:46
FurnaceBoyonce a mono-sceptical view becomes consensus/mainstream, they've lostDec 16 17:47
FurnaceBoythe strategy is deadDec 16 17:47
FurnaceBoyso they fight to paint u as an extremistDec 16 17:48
FurnaceBoya rogue elementDec 16 17:48
FurnaceBoys/fight/scramble/Dec 16 17:51
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: yes, exactlyDec 16 17:53
schestowitzYou have two sideDec 16 17:53
schestowitz*sidesDec 16 17:53
schestowitzThen you slice the sliceDec 16 17:53
schestowitzLike in Life of BryanDec 16 17:54
schestowitzOr religious sect infightingDec 16 17:54
schestowitzProtestant vs CatholicDec 16 17:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60548966Dec 16 17:54
TechrightsBot-sc@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 17:51:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @ender2070 @rclayton Let me see - @rms tries to protect your rights to have access to the source.Dec 16 17:54
schestowitzThey feed trollsDec 16 17:54
schestowitzI think this is spam: https://twitter.com/TheAndyKaufman/status/15462555044548609Dec 16 17:55
TechrightsBot-sc@TheAndyKaufman: @schestowitz  NEWS: Andy Kaufman Bigger Than Houdini & Jesus. Kaufman Breaks 26yr Silence, video http://t.co/5k3OrlY via @youtubeDec 16 17:55
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title:  YouTube - Life After Death For Andy Kaufman? Kaufman's Own Words  .::. Size~: 119.1 KBDec 16 17:55
schestowitzThat's what I hate about twitterDec 16 17:55
schestowitzYou can't tell anymore if a stranger is being kindDec 16 17:55
schestowitzOr if it's spamDec 16 17:55
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: did u see, the rape accuser apparently fled to Middle EastDec 16 17:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: "not cooperating with police"Dec 16 17:58
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i saw this yesterdayDec 16 17:59
schestowitzgot link?Dec 16 18:00
schestowitzI wanna dent itDec 16 18:00
schestowitzIs this Ardin?Dec 16 18:00
schestowitzThe crook wants to be a politicianDec 16 18:00
schestowitzThought she'd sleep with a famous hacker to promote her careerDec 16 18:00
schestowitzPerhaps then realise deleting tweets not enoughDec 16 18:01
schestowitzJust route to becoming Lewinski-like infamousDec 16 18:01
schestowitz"famous whore"Dec 16 18:01
FurnaceBoyi assumed it was ardinDec 16 18:01
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i don't think these were her motives.Dec 16 18:01
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i also don't think it was premeditatedDec 16 18:02
FurnaceBoyreality is simplerDec 16 18:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_the_mad_hatter/status/15464691555893249Dec 16 18:04
TechrightsBot-sc@_the_mad_hatter: @schestowitz Bradley Manning holds dual citizenship. I suspect that the UK will ignore this.Dec 16 18:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/edwardvirtually/status/15465968172007424Dec 16 18:05
TechrightsBot-sc@edwardvirtually: @schestowitz it's been mentioned once or twice, i tweeted the prior mentions. rather telling isn't it?Dec 16 18:05
schestowitzIndeed.Dec 16 18:05
FurnaceBoyI had no idea he was dual citizen.Dec 16 18:05
FurnaceBoysighDec 16 18:05
FurnaceBoyone MORE example of governments ignoring their citizens in favour of US interestsDec 16 18:06
FurnaceBoyCanada does this ALL THE FUCKING TIMEDec 16 18:06
FurnaceBoyin factDec 16 18:06
FurnaceBoyCanada's examples are outrageous!Dec 16 18:06
schestowitzAre Canadian citizens also European a lot of the time or USian?Dec 16 18:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/60549771Dec 16 18:08
TechrightsBot-sc@drew Roberts (zotz)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 18:06:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz isn't everyone a stakeholder in all laws and etc that apply to them? #failDec 16 18:08
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60549814Dec 16 18:09
TechrightsBot-sc@Wayne Borean (themadhatter)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 18:08:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Roy, there's a lot of weird shit going on in the background. Should be interesting seeing how it falls out.Dec 16 18:09
schestowitzCareful, FurnaceBoyDec 16 18:12
schestowitzThe troll tries to draw you in:Dec 16 18:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/stonemirror/status/15468393108869120Dec 16 18:12
TechrightsBot-scCould not fetch Twitter pageDec 16 18:12
schestowitzhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101215/00104712279/us-response-to-massive-decline-foreign-travelers-keep-crazy-policies-set-up-ad-campaign.shtmlDec 16 18:18
TechrightsBot-scTitle: US Response To Massive Decline In Foreign Travelers: Keep Crazy Policies, But Set Up Ad Campaign | Techdirt .::. Size~: 115.28 KBDec 16 18:18
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: well some are dual. but most are not.Dec 16 18:28
schestowitzThe troll is hyper.. https://identi.ca/notice/60550237Dec 16 18:28
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: i guess a lot of immigrants are dualDec 16 18:28
TechrightsBot-sc@David "Lefty" Schlesinger (lefty)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 18:15:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @themadhatter You don't get to do wrong because someone else does, Wayne. What @schestowitz has there is clearly libelous, in my view.Dec 16 18:28
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: maybeDec 16 18:28
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: well they're the ones who always have a first citizenship. canada doesn't require renunciation.Dec 16 18:28
schestowitzAll Canadians and US citizens have immigrant ancenstorsDec 16 18:28
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: nor does USA, actually, though I used to think it did.Dec 16 18:28
schestowitzIn CA they are civil enough to call early inhabitants First PeopleDec 16 18:29
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Japan requires renunciation of other citizenships, but some ppl don't botherDec 16 18:29
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60550909Dec 16 18:31
TechrightsBot-sc@J&eacute;r&eacute;mie Tarot (silopolis)'s status on Thursday, 16-Dec-10 18:29:29 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @schestowitz: Eucalyptus Systems Partners with Red Hat to Deliver Open Cloud Solutions http://is.gd/iR298 #fogcomputing !gnu !linuxDec 16 18:31
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Press Release - December 15, 2010 | Eucalyptus .::. Size~: 18.88 KBDec 16 18:31
schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2010/12/15/chinas-communist-twitter/Dec 16 18:33
TechrightsBot-scTitle: China Launches Communist Version of Twitter .::. Size~: 81.89 KBDec 16 18:33
schestowitzLook who's talkingDec 16 18:33
schestowitz"communist"Dec 16 18:33
schestowitzDaemonisingDec 16 18:33
schestowitzTheir slavesDec 16 18:33
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: interesting. if you search 'ardin middle east' you get only a flood of identical denialsDec 16 18:34
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: let's see... who could benefit from having people believe she's still in Sweden...Dec 16 18:35
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/Tymlee/status/15253882867286016Dec 16 18:35
TechrightsBot-sc@Tymlee: Report: Assange Accuser Flees to Middle East, May Not Be Cooperating with Police http://bit.ly/ikAFcf #wikileaksDec 16 18:35
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Report: Assange Accuser Flees to Middle East, May Not Be Cooperating with Police -- UK & Euro-Asian News -- Sott.net .::. Size~: 51.55 KBDec 16 18:35
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: you have to search for 'accuser middle east'Dec 16 18:35
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: oh, i do have last night's log here.Dec 16 18:36
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: oh, right, yeah codinghorror is a pain in the ass.Dec 16 18:37
MinceRthe pope is gay, but apparently isn't only interested in children >> (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/16/topless-striptease-a.htmlDec 16 18:37
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Topless striptease acrobats perform for Pope - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 36.35 KBDec 16 18:37
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sebsebsebhiDec 16 18:54
schestowitzMinceR: LOLDec 16 18:54
schestowitzsebsebseb: what's with the silly accusation of spam? I caught some laurel reply to you...Dec 16 18:55
sebsebsebschestowitz: she was whineing at me not having an avaterDec 16 18:56
sebsebsebthen later I am like, well even the spam accounts have them at timesDec 16 18:56
FurnaceBoythey usually doDec 16 18:56
FurnaceBoybut, the point is still validDec 16 18:56
FurnaceBoyWITHOUT one you do look more like spamDec 16 18:56
sebsebsebschestowitz: plus that guy from Mageia channel whining at me about not having an avatar again today :(Dec 16 18:57
FurnaceBoyjust upload oneDec 16 18:57
FurnaceBoyi'll make one for youDec 16 18:57
sebsebsebanyway I have just sent an email about avatarDec 16 18:57
sebsebsebto someone who said he would make me oneDec 16 18:57
FurnaceBoyi'll make one :)Dec 16 18:57
sebsebsebok it got sent a bit later than planned, but anywayDec 16 18:57
sebsebsebalso I have thought about using the Mageia logo the one that is used on the Twitter group, but then I think nahDec 16 18:58
sebsebseb1. thats good for groupsDec 16 18:58
sebsebseband suchDec 16 18:58
sebsebseb2.  the proper offical Mageia stuff for me hasn't even began properly just yet, since still waiting for an ISODec 16 18:58
schestowitz"@themadhatter] @ender2070 I'd ignore @gnufreex. Rather you should consider my comment. GNU is not communism. It's communityism."Dec 16 18:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: on the subject of spam, ThisleWeb accussed me of spamming the !Debian group recentlyDec 16 18:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: ,because I sent a dent about the kernel their,  that also basically said, that I knew other people had already dented about thatDec 16 18:59
schestowitzsebsebseb: set up an avatarDec 16 19:00
schestowitzhey, maybe you can even use the TR oneDec 16 19:00
*sebsebseb doesn't tend to like people that much, who have a go at him, over stupid thingsDec 16 19:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm I am not part of Techrights enough, to want to use that avaterDec 16 19:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: so thanks for the offer, but no thanksDec 16 19:02
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: hmm what do you think I should have as an avatar?Dec 16 19:04
sebsebsebwhat kind of stuff would you make?Dec 16 19:04
FurnaceBoyjust a typographic oneDec 16 19:04
sebsebseboh and I should wait for an email from the guy I emailed about it reallyDec 16 19:04
FurnaceBoyi played just now for 5 minDec 16 19:05
FurnaceBoyi can do somethingDec 16 19:05
sebsebsebwhat with the name?Dec 16 19:05
FurnaceBoyyesDec 16 19:05
FurnaceBoyshould look goodDec 16 19:05
FurnaceBoyi'll have a look laterDec 16 19:05
sebsebsebyeah thats the kind of thing I suggested in the email I sent himDec 16 19:05
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: so ok, two guys then, that can make me an avatar, but I am not going to  just tell him that, now i'll wait for him to email me backDec 16 19:06
FurnaceBoynp!Dec 16 19:06
FurnaceBoy2 unreliable guys might = 1 reliable avatar hahaDec 16 19:06
sebsebsebwat would you make it in?  Adobe Photoshop? :DDec 16 19:06
sebsebsebyeah Photoshop, propritary software :DDec 16 19:07
FurnaceBoyi tried photoshop yesDec 16 19:07
sebsebsebuhmm making in Photoshop was the jokeDec 16 19:07
FurnaceBoyhahaDec 16 19:07
sebsebsebasuming you would use freesofwtare/opensource :)Dec 16 19:08
sebsebsebsoftwareDec 16 19:08
FurnaceBoyactually last night i did half of a PSD -> Gimp file converterDec 16 19:08
FurnaceBoyi do PSD tools, sebsebsebDec 16 19:08
FurnaceBoyGPLDec 16 19:08
sebsebseboh?Dec 16 19:08
FurnaceBoyhttp://telegraphics.com.au/sw/Dec 16 19:08
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Telegraphics - Free plugins for Photoshop & Illustrator...and other software .::. Size~: 52.15 KBDec 16 19:08
sebsebsebanyway it was two weeks ago basically when I got his email address so hmmDec 16 19:09
FurnaceBoyahDec 16 19:09
sebsebsebcan get some office suite for free at the momentDec 16 19:10
sebsebsebolder version from 2008Dec 16 19:10
sebsebseband when  people download  they give money to chariety or whateverDec 16 19:11
sebsebseb,but yeah I havent done it yetDec 16 19:11
sebsebsebalso  at  the moment, when people use the add on for Chrome, and they open up  a tab, they give money to chariety hmmDec 16 19:11
sebsebsebI think thats a bit hmm of GoogleDec 16 19:11
sebsebsebI mean Firefox can't just do that for example, or they could, but they need the money they got realy, since yeahDec 16 19:12
sebsebsebwell  thers both the Mozilla Organisation and the Mozilla CorporationDec 16 19:12
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15424134515265536Dec 16 20:20
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @rclayton At one point he had a post begging for donations  because he was going to do #techrights as a full time job, and that disappearedDec 16 20:20
schestowitzMore liesDec 16 20:20
schestowitzIt didn't disappear at allDec 16 20:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FFII/status/15501398040907776Dec 16 20:23
TechrightsBot-sc@FFII: @schestowitz  He's got the hero look http://www.iill.net/wp-content/uploads/images/bradley-manning.jpgDec 16 20:23
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeDec 16 20:23
schestowitzThat's the wrong guyDec 16 20:23
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