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| schestowitz | Just got my first birthday 'card': http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/V9O1HG9g8wxMSLDI | Dec 17 00:55 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: eCards by JibJab Sendables - Birthdays - Video shared by Harvey .::. Size~: 32.44 KB | Dec 17 00:55 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: thanks, patched the program | Dec 17 01:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | np | Dec 17 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | FurnaceBoy | http://identi.ca/notice/60545262 | Dec 17 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a dent? | Dec 17 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | TechrightsBot-sc | Not a dent? | Dec 17 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | no? | Dec 17 02:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | not restarted | Dec 17 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: not restarted yet cause I wanted to sleep | Dec 17 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Last time it led to issues and kept me up to debug | Dec 17 07:32 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/ibnfirnas/statuses/15643709487976448 | Dec 17 07:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @IbnFirnas: @schestowitz certainly not SELinux, if it is government you're worried about... | Dec 17 07:40 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 17 07:41 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: heh | Dec 17 07:42 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure what to test the fix with | Dec 17 07:43 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna start denting Linux news.... been looking forward to it. THen I'll do some blog posts | Dec 17 07:44 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: test the fix with the same one that broke it. | Dec 17 07:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://identi.ca/notice/60545262 | Dec 17 07:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ØاÙØ© lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) ÙÙ ÙÙÙ Thursday, 16-Dec-10 16:44:37 UTC - 280: @schestowitz Other annoying thing about Choqok is having to click it to mark notices read. Ctrl-R only works if textbox not focused. | Dec 17 07:45 |
| FurnaceBoy | i don't know what the fuck is up with that encoding. | Dec 17 07:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'll worry about it another time. | Dec 17 07:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | but the basic bug is fixed. | Dec 17 07:46 |
| schestowitz | Neat | Dec 17 07:47 |
| schestowitz | This reminds me.... | Dec 17 07:47 |
| schestowitz | I need to download the latest Choqok build | Dec 17 07:47 |
| schestowitz | The lead dev dented me privately about it | Dec 17 07:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Gimp/xcf converter almost done. | Dec 17 07:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I have a nightmare with my VPS hosting. Crashed 4 times today. Decided to migrate immediately, crashed again permanently during migration. | Dec 17 07:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so while i was waiting for news , been coding. | Dec 17 07:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | not in a good mood. i can't begin to tell you what a bad decision it was to move off colo. | Dec 17 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Toronto-based? | Dec 17 07:51 |
| schestowitz | tessier has hosting spacwe | Dec 17 07:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you can share h/w resources, I think he has spares | Dec 17 07:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | no, i should just never have changed my old arrangement., | Dec 17 07:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | this always happens at a bad time. | Dec 17 07:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm going overseas soon | Dec 17 07:52 |
| schestowitz | Europe? :-D | Dec 17 07:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 17 07:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'll let you know if i do, tho | Dec 17 07:58 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: https://identi.ca/notice/60571471 | Dec 17 08:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Brandon Lozza (ender2070)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 02:31:27 UTC - Identi.ca: I formally apologize to @schestowitz for being a dick, not smoking is making me argue with everyone | Dec 17 08:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you saw that | Dec 17 08:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | well it's a big man who can apologise. Ender2070 | Dec 17 08:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I told you, eh. | Dec 17 08:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | must be a nightmare. my dad tried and failed many times. till he was 60-odd when he finally kicked it. | Dec 17 08:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | (the habit, not the bucket) | Dec 17 08:09 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: you have seen who is in that patent group with Microsoft. schestowitz | Dec 17 08:13 |
| oiaohm | Its basically the list of companies who currently look to be the worse effected long term by open source. | Dec 17 08:14 |
| schestowitz | Assuming it's all true | Dec 17 08:18 |
| schestowitz | It's from an anti-FOSS lad | Dec 17 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they were added as afterthought | Dec 17 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Apple et al | Dec 17 08:26 |
| *schestowitz listens to music... hears phrase "Waking up dead" | Dec 17 08:42 | |
| schestowitz | The phrase makes no sense | Dec 17 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Nobody wakes up dead | Dec 17 08:43 |
| schestowitz | Some people just never wake up | Dec 17 08:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/15683968313589760 | Dec 17 08:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @razvansandu: @MihaiStanescu Recomand @timberners_lee și @schestowitz :) | Dec 17 08:44 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Dec 17 09:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/15717367355019264 | Dec 17 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz: ♻ @MMFlint My open letter to the #Swedish government http://mmflint.me/eQpF0e Michael Moore weighs in | Hypocritical tactics | Dec 17 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Dear Government of Sweden ... | MichaelMoore.com .::. Size~: 70.92 KB | Dec 17 11:34 |
| *schestowitz back | Dec 17 11:34 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: next year claims for Linux on desktop is most likely about a year too soon. | Dec 17 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Ie 2012 is when most of the Linux desktop tech is appearing it will be ready. | Dec 17 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough 2012 for everything to be readly would be 2 years ahead of what I was forcasting. 2007 samba got docs' Normal pattern is 7 years to get everything nailed down so my first expected forcast was 2014 | Dec 17 11:53 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: but it's already on the desktop | Dec 17 12:03 |
| schestowitz | In developing nations for the most part | Dec 17 12:03 |
| schestowitz | Meaning poorer nations | Dec 17 12:03 |
| schestowitz | That's OK | Dec 17 12:03 |
| oiaohm | I was meaning for the existing not the new markets. schestowitz | Dec 17 12:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie MS existing blood stream. | Dec 17 12:05 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: have you noticed Orcale is now treating open office like solaris | Dec 17 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Ie release there own closed version first. | Dec 17 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Then maybe get around to releasing the opensource one latter. | Dec 17 12:08 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Dec 17 12:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe attachMSFT will do the same w/ openSUSE | Dec 17 12:46 |
| oiaohm | It will be funny if they try that. schestowitz | Dec 17 12:50 |
| oiaohm | Most likely it will trigger another libreoffice event. | Dec 17 12:50 |
| oiaohm | Nice to see orcale is following MS into the cloud with openoffice anyhow. schestowitz | Dec 17 12:51 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes,good for ODF too | Dec 17 13:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/15734996455137280 | Dec 17 13:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #OpenBSD backdoor claims denied http://is.gd/iTu45 if [all] is a lie, is there a perpetrator?|A proprietary OS vendor shill? | Dec 17 13:01 |
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| oiaohm | Koffice split is also partly for setting up for a self hosting cloud. schestowitz | Dec 17 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 17 13:04 |
| oiaohm | libreoffice is mostly focused on code cleaning at the moment. | Dec 17 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes its been a majorally over due job. I think a lot of people are going to be supprised by libreoffice performance. | Dec 17 13:05 |
| schestowitz | branding too? | Dec 17 13:05 |
| oiaohm | branding stripping is done. | Dec 17 13:05 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: no Java, right? | Dec 17 13:05 |
| oiaohm | Java is still in. | Dec 17 13:05 |
| oiaohm | Lack of grammar checker without it. | Dec 17 13:05 |
| oiaohm | At this stage. | Dec 17 13:05 |
| oiaohm | but they are working on reducing it requirement. | Dec 17 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Ha! “The lawyer said the only correspondence his client had received was a note telling him that a copy of Time magazine sent to him had been destroyed because the cover bore his photograph.” | Dec 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216 | Dec 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/12/14/its-good-to-be-needed/ | Dec 17 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Wikileaks founder Assange bailed, but release delayed .::. Size~: 70.74 KB | Dec 17 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: It’s Good to be Needed at Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 29.12 KB | Dec 17 13:13 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/60598372 | Dec 17 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @John Carlyle-Clarke (johncc)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 13:43:48 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @schestowitz World's first dual-core smartphone debuts in Korea http://is.gd/iTNB8 | Dec 17 13:51 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ^ | Dec 17 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: World's first dual-core smartphone debuts in Korea - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 54.3 KB | Dec 17 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Now this could go wrong. | Dec 17 13:54 |
| oiaohm | There are existing tri and 8 core arm chips. schestowitz | Dec 17 13:54 |
| oiaohm | If we have one up man ship it could go insane. | Dec 17 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Susan spreads FUD again: | Dec 17 13:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sbanwart/status/15756565495685120 | Dec 17 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @sbanwart: @schestowitz No decision was made during that meeting. Please stop spreading FUD. | Dec 17 13:56 |
| schestowitz | replyto://15756565495685120 | Dec 17 13:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/15766968095211520 | Dec 17 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @schestowitz: @sbanwart I don't spread FUD. It seems like Susan does it again in OStatic, as she did ~2 weeks ago and @jwildeboer corrected her in comment | Dec 17 13:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15761029472460800 | Dec 17 13:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @sbanwart @schestowitz the article seems to spread FUD, roy just read it like everyone else | Dec 17 13:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/15767447646769152 | Dec 17 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @schestowitz: @ender2070 yeah, it's a good thing that @sbanwart warned me the article is not correct though, they should inform the author | Dec 17 13:58 |
| schestowitz | test: http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/14344229228646401 | Dec 17 14:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / FFII e.V.: @DanaBlankenhorn #EIFv2 in ... .::. Size~: 15.65 KB | Dec 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: ^^ | Dec 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | bug? | Dec 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Same in other channel | Dec 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | test: https://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/14344229228646401 | Dec 17 14:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter / FFII e.V.: @DanaBlankenhorn #EIFv2 in ... .::. Size~: 16.09 KB | Dec 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | same for https | Dec 17 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Sigh... | Dec 17 14:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sbanwart/status/15767895585857536 | Dec 17 14:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/15771388010831872 | Dec 17 14:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sbanwart/status/15768018277638144 | Dec 17 14:14 |
| schestowitz | I think the bot went nuts | Dec 17 14:15 |
| schestowitz | test: https://twitter.com/sbanwart/status/15768018277638144 | Dec 17 14:15 |
| schestowitz | test http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216 | Dec 17 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | test http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216 | Dec 17 14:17 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Hello World! | Dec 17 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 38.2 KB | Dec 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | test http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216 | Dec 17 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Wikileaks founder Assange bailed, but release delayed .::. Size~: 70.73 KB | Dec 17 14:17 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: IMPORTANT. See log above. In two channels the bot got confused | Dec 17 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe network issue... | Dec 17 14:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yep i'm aware of this | Dec 17 14:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGmDOqJxKqA | Dec 17 14:36 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 17 14:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sbanwart/status/15767895585857536 | Dec 17 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @sbanwart: @schestowitz You linked to an article that is obviously FUD without identifying it as such. | Dec 17 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/15771388010831872 | Dec 17 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @schestowitz: @sbanwart no, I thought it was true | Dec 17 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sbanwart/status/15768018277638144 | Dec 17 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @sbanwart: @schestowitz Regardless of intent, it looks like you're propagating the FUD too. | Dec 17 14:45 |
| schestowitz | How rude of him | Dec 17 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Telling me off for just linking to what I thought was correct and wasn't on the face of it | Dec 17 14:45 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60599910 | Dec 17 14:46 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @azuthian (azuthian)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 14:17:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @jonobacon you excuse @migueldeicaza and trolls for lying and bullying. see how @migueldeicaza tries to smear @schestowitz in this thread | Dec 17 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Who's this person? | Dec 17 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Came out of nowhere... | Dec 17 14:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's not me :) | Dec 17 14:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | but it proves people notice MdI making a fool of himself. | Dec 17 14:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: PSD -> Gimp converter runs well | Dec 17 14:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: tried it on 700-layer files that the person who asked for it couldn't open in Gimp | Dec 17 14:56 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: you do more than Canonical | Dec 17 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Which complains about GIMP and uses PS to develop Ubuntu | Dec 17 14:57 |
| schestowitz | I reckon you saw those long threads about it in identica right about now | Dec 17 14:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 2 nights of hacking only. which makes me feel good about the underlying code. | Dec 17 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Photoshop still has some advantages over gimp. | Dec 17 14:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: of course it does. | Dec 17 14:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: i used photoshop professionally from 0.8 beta until 2004. | Dec 17 14:57 |
| oiaohm | But if you don't just limit to gimp there are a lot of other opensource graphics programs that cover the holes quite nicely. | Dec 17 14:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | oiaohm: nobody is saying that gimp replaces it everywhere | Dec 17 14:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: follow @telegraphics | Dec 17 14:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | but in fact, having run gimp 2.6 in the past couple of days, i'm amazed at how slick it is, and how familiar to a photoshop user. | Dec 17 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Have you tried out 2.7 gimp yet. FurnaceBoy | Dec 17 15:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | no | Dec 17 15:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | i just used whatever i could download today, for some testing | Dec 17 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Really I want 2.8 gimp after playing with 2.7 the development branch. | Dec 17 15:00 |
| schestowitz | what for? | Dec 17 15:01 |
| schestowitz | What's 2.5+ missing? | Dec 17 15:01 |
| schestowitz | For me, gimp has been fine since the 1.x releases | Dec 17 15:02 |
| schestowitz | I used some proprietary junk (yes, junk, not even PS) before that | Dec 17 15:02 |
| oiaohm | More color depths is useful at times. schestowitz | Dec 17 15:03 |
| oiaohm | And a better undo system. | Dec 17 15:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://twitter.com/#!/schestowitz/status/15784399807184897 | Dec 17 15:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @schestowitz: "Guards at a privately run prison in Arizona stripped, beat and kicked inmates and threatened to kill them" http://is.gd/iU3AD #civility | Dec 17 15:10 |
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| FurnaceBoy | ^^ wonder where they learned that. | Dec 17 15:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: can you IMAGINE how damaged the US psyche is from the past 10 years. | Dec 17 15:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's like 250 million children watching parents fight to the death | Dec 17 15:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: may need therapy | Dec 17 15:10 |
| schestowitz | how many on food stamps? | Dec 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz | IIRC 25% or 40 million? | Dec 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Third-world Arrianna [sic] | Dec 17 15:16 |
| schestowitz | "Only the Rich Can Save Us" | Dec 17 15:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | 50 million don't have food security ... nice euphemism | Dec 17 15:19 |
| schestowitz | how so? | Dec 17 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Negation | Dec 17 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Make that "have food insecurity" | Dec 17 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Or deprivation | Dec 17 15:33 |
| MinceR | the confidentiality, integrity and availability of their food is not ensured? | Dec 17 15:33 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: converts a 42MB PSD in < 2 seconds on this old PC... | Dec 17 15:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: 'aren't sure where their next meal is coming from' | Dec 17 15:34 |
| schestowitz | "I mean there's enormous pressures to harmonize freedom of speech legislation and transparency legislation around the world - within the E.U., between China and the United States. Which way is it going to go? It's hard to see. " Julian Assange | Dec 17 15:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 17 15:37 |
| MinceR | doesn't seem so hard to see at all | Dec 17 15:38 |
| MinceR | they're all in love with the chinese model | Dec 17 15:39 |
| MinceR | australia and france have adopted it already | Dec 17 15:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | why call it the chinese model? it's just a continuation of historical totalitarianism, which has infested every continent at various times | Dec 17 15:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | including many states in Western Europe. | Dec 17 15:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | Spain, Greece, Italy, Germany, to begin with | Dec 17 15:44 |
| MinceR | afaik they implemented this infrastructure for Internet censorship first | Dec 17 15:46 |
| MinceR | at least on the state level | Dec 17 15:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | right, but it's a natural outgrowth of totalitarianism. | Dec 17 15:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | we may never know exactly which states do it. Iran has clamped down since 2004 | Dec 17 15:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | they started aggressively blocking in 2006 | Dec 17 15:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | -ish | Dec 17 15:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | Australia, obviously... haha. | Dec 17 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Irsralia | Dec 17 15:48 |
| MinceR | australistan | Dec 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Commonwealth | Dec 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Euphemism for colony | Dec 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Common... | Dec 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Wealth.. | Dec 17 15:49 |
| MinceR | yeah | Dec 17 15:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: English Texas is one of the best descriptions i've seen | Dec 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Sharing... | Dec 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Rich.. | Dec 17 15:49 |
| MinceR | the reason i don't call it "people's republic" anymore is that they've actually managed to be something even less than that | Dec 17 15:49 |
| MinceR | monarchy | Dec 17 15:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | but it's kind of neat though, we can use internet censorship of a barometer to brokenness | Dec 17 15:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | as a* | Dec 17 15:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | a bit like book-banning | Dec 17 15:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | which is common in the USA | Dec 17 15:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/ttcupdates/status/15797755012190208 | Dec 17 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ttcupdates: For those interested: @ttcupdates source code is up at http://bglink.me/6t Free to take as long as TTCupdates name/brand is not used. | Dec 17 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: bgilham/TTCupdates - GitHub .::. Size~: 28.95 KB | Dec 17 15:58 |
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| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: when you say 'monarchy' i think you mean more like 'oligarchy' right? | Dec 17 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | moneyarchy :-) | Dec 17 16:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 17 16:53 |
| schestowitz | The author of this has just mailed me this: WIKILEAKS JULIAN ASSANGE LATEST INTERVIEW 17 December 2010 1.14pm | Dec 17 16:56 |
| schestowitz | I think he was recently evidcted from his house | Dec 17 16:57 |
| schestowitz | It's the one who asked me (a stranger) for help escaping the US for refuge elsewhere | Dec 17 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Scary... like USSR | Dec 17 16:57 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPMnddMEqn8 | Dec 17 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - WIKILEAKS JULIAN ASSANGE LATEST INTERVIEW 17 December 2010 1.14pm .::. Size~: 121.02 KB | Dec 17 16:57 |
| schestowitz | He says govt. don't attack them | Dec 17 16:57 |
| schestowitz | BANKS do | Dec 17 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Banks, banks, banks | Dec 17 16:58 |
| schestowitz | When I did a film this year in London the filming crew said they were harassed in Switzerland if they filmed near a bank | Dec 17 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/17/julian-assange-wikileaks-us-investigation | Dec 17 16:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Julian Assange: WikiLeaks faces 'very aggressive' investigation by US | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 227.15 KB | Dec 17 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | WikiLeaks under 'very aggressive' investigation by 'superpower that does not appear to be following rule of law', says founder | Dec 17 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | no shit | Dec 17 16:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | they haven't followed any rule of law in my lifetime. | Dec 17 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Widow of Madoff investor believed to have reached settlement to return up to $7.2bn of fraud money " | Dec 17 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | so where's the settlement for victims of derivatives fraud? | Dec 17 16:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | the rich looking after themselves | Dec 17 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Biggest criminals on this planet | Dec 17 17:00 |
| schestowitz | Ruining and starving families | Dec 17 17:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/15813742138757121 | Dec 17 17:01 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: I am sure news of $7bln just recovered to return 2 Madoff's wealthy victims cheers up those still uncompensated 4 massively larger CDO scam. | Dec 17 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Argh | Dec 17 17:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/mosharrafzaidi/status/15821651249733632 | Dec 17 17:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @mosharrafzaidi: BBC: "22 people have been killed in a series of attacks by US drones". Express Tribune: "15 militants were killed when a drone fired" | Dec 17 17:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | Orwell: "Told you fucking so." | Dec 17 17:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/sivavaid/status/15816259262222336 | Dec 17 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @sivavaid: A cloud computer is just like a regular computer, except have to ask permission from phone company every time you use it (via @doctorow) | Dec 17 18:23 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: i mean the official form of state | Dec 17 18:26 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: I don't see a monarchy in china. i think you used the wrong word | Dec 17 18:27 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: oligarchy applies pretty much everywhere, unofficially | Dec 17 18:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: yes | Dec 17 18:27 |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: i was talking about australia when i said monarchy | Dec 17 18:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | oh! | Dec 17 18:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | sorry | Dec 17 18:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | well,there's a republican movement in Australia. | Dec 17 18:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's pretty 50-50 | Dec 17 18:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 17 18:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | they attempted a referendum | Dec 17 18:28 |
| MinceR | funny how "republican" can also mean a good thing | Dec 17 18:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | all these words are twisted :/ | Dec 17 18:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 17 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Repulican't | Dec 17 18:38 |
| schestowitz | OK, LET'S GO! :-) | Dec 17 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | ok? | Dec 17 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Political denting ;-) | Dec 17 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | who? | Dec 17 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | me? | Dec 17 19:52 |
| schestowitz | You too | Dec 17 19:52 |
| schestowitz | BTW... | Dec 17 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | LOL | Dec 17 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | i already started | Dec 17 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/15838233187323904 | Dec 17 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: Not too distant future, a King Arthur shall appear in former USA, to unify chaotic&warring tribes, in vacuum left by failed Imperial regime. | Dec 17 19:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ in honour of Chalmers Johnson. | Dec 17 19:52 |
| schestowitz | I've convinced my father that this is a worthy cause | Dec 17 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Most people shy away from it | Dec 17 19:52 |
| schestowitz | But when he hears about bankers being exposed he gets very supportive | Dec 17 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I think Wikileaks will make people hate banks with a passion very soon | Dec 17 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Anonymous will eye other sites | Dec 17 19:53 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: how do you know about Chalmers Johnson? | Dec 17 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I can't remember where I found him for the first time, but he's one of my favourites because of his calmness | Dec 17 19:54 |
| schestowitz | "Buy an apartment in Vancouver..." | Dec 17 19:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: from you. | Dec 17 19:56 |
| schestowitz | [19:56] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 228 dents! | Dec 17 19:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html broken | Dec 17 19:57 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Dec 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I like the new avatar BTW | Dec 17 19:57 |
| schestowitz | "lock up the REAL criminals" | Dec 17 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | thanks. | Dec 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz | People know the Assange game is silly | Dec 17 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | i made some for friends too, did you see? | Dec 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz | My dad who hasn't followed this whole thing at all said immediately, "why do they focus on a person"? | Dec 17 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | canadian pinko references, which relate to local municipal politics. there's a war going on here. | Dec 17 19:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ha! | Dec 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz | But he also criticised them for not releasing the pile all at once to have the censors give up | Dec 17 19:59 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: ah, g20 | Dec 17 19:59 |
| schestowitz | That's another one | Dec 17 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I wrote a lot about it for 4 days, Laurel ad Wayne leading with material | Dec 17 19:59 |
| schestowitz | *and | Dec 17 19:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not just g20. | Dec 17 20:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: we have a municipal catastrophe in Rob Ford | Dec 17 20:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this is a crisis that's only about 1 month old but shall dog us for years | Dec 17 20:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: canada is a bloody mess | Dec 17 20:04 |
| schestowitz | London is a mess too | Dec 17 20:09 |
| schestowitz | For almost a month now | Dec 17 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Ask the cops... | Dec 17 20:09 |
| MinceR | what do the cops know? | Dec 17 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll have cuts when the rich people need MORE cops | Dec 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they work overtime | Dec 17 20:10 |
| MinceR | "work"? | Dec 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | I have a friend who works there... more than one | Dec 17 20:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: interesting development, outlawing protest. i'm not convinced it will work :) | Dec 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Well, 'work' | Dec 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Scare quotes | Dec 17 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Pushing back the people, defending those who run the country | Dec 17 20:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: g20 was all about overtime. which is absurd if you brought 19,000 police in. | Dec 17 20:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: even in the USA, 5,000 cops handled g20 in Pittsburgh. | Dec 17 20:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: how many cops did g20 in london? | Dec 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Not sure, I know how many citizens attended | Dec 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | Outnumbering the cops by a ratio of like 1:100 | Dec 17 20:11 |
| schestowitz | But cops too are people | Dec 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | But they wear uniform | Dec 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | After work they too can join the protesters | Dec 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | They are imposters | Dec 17 20:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/15861759369809920 | Dec 17 20:12 |
| schestowitz | But that's what some amount of GBP on a paper can do to to a person for him (rarely her) to defect and defend the wrong team | Dec 17 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Could not fetch Twitter page | Dec 17 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/15861759369809920 | Dec 17 20:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: Q.How many cops does it take to smash a lightbulb? A. One, but it takes a whole chain of command to block the enquiry #g20 #toronto #cdnpoli | Dec 17 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Haha | Dec 17 20:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i think you mean 'ceded' | Dec 17 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Recently heard a kid (15 yo) in London protesting | Dec 17 20:15 |
| schestowitz | He said they need to get to college | Dec 17 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise they end up in uniform :-) | Dec 17 20:15 |
| schestowitz | police uniform | Dec 17 20:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. | Dec 17 20:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | instant slave class... | Dec 17 20:16 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes, I get that confused also with superseded/superceded | Dec 17 20:16 |
| schestowitz | One person I know tries to escape the police career | Dec 17 20:17 |
| schestowitz | For ages | Dec 17 20:17 |
| schestowitz | It's hard | Dec 17 20:17 |
| schestowitz | The other quit the force | Dec 17 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Manchester police | Dec 17 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Told me about things he had to go through | Dec 17 20:17 |
| schestowitz | He came back to working at the gym I'm at | Dec 17 20:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | :| | Dec 17 20:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | book in it? | Dec 17 20:18 |
| schestowitz | lost you there... | Dec 17 20:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | write a book | Dec 17 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Who me? | Dec 17 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | i was thinking of them. | Dec 17 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | ex-establishment memoirs | Dec 17 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | i follow an ex-Gitmo guy on twitter. | Dec 17 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | reformed. | Dec 17 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | now realises everything was fucked up | Dec 17 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Books are irrelevant as future medium | Dec 17 20:21 |
| schestowitz | They'll need to adapt to change | Dec 17 20:22 |
| schestowitz | People like you who dent to ~1000 people 20,000 messages get more signal out over a wider time span | Dec 17 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Others read a book, don't put it down, then get aggravated for a day and the next day watch football or some love story, then forget about it | Dec 17 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | the old books are important. | Dec 17 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | Solzhenitsyn, Hersh | Dec 17 20:23 |
| schestowitz | In u/blogs you can pace output | Dec 17 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Who reads em? | Dec 17 20:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Manufac_Consent_Prop_Model.html | Dec 17 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Manufacturing Consent by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky .::. Size~: 82.25 KB | Dec 17 20:23 |
| schestowitz | @themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @CBCPolitics: Parliament will adjourn at the end of Thursday, until Jan. 31, 2011. #canpoli | Dec 17 20:27 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: RT @laura_payton: RT @tony_tracy: The Canadian Penny issues release calling for abolition of the Senate http://j.mp/fmTMFe | Dec 17 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 17 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60617451 | Dec 17 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 20:27:20 UTC - Identi.ca: RD @schestowitz: it's easier to lose freedom than to gain any. power is never conceded without reason /RD I'd say never conceded | Dec 17 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Right... | Dec 17 20:33 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60617500 | Dec 17 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @fauno (fauno)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 20:28:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz i've seen a petition on #demandprogress against #manning being tortured. !wikileaks | Dec 17 20:35 |
| schestowitz | excellent! | Dec 17 20:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/andrewbrett/status/15865972762091520 | Dec 17 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @andrewbrett: When you say you're post-ideology, you're saying your explanation for why some people are rich and some are poor is "shit happens." | Dec 17 20:38 |
| schestowitz | /s/happens/pays off/ | Dec 17 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Like when Larry Ellison made Oracle | Dec 17 20:39 |
| schestowitz | he told the co-founder they needed to lie to customers to "succeed" | Dec 17 20:39 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Anyway, since I once said I didn't like Mono, I went on the 'enemies list' and every so often they attack me. | Dec 17 20:43 |
| schestowitz | -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm It's rather funny. They are too stupid to realize if they just kept their mouths shut, I'd ignore them. | Dec 17 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Dec 17 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Mono bullying in action | Dec 17 20:43 |
| oiaohm | yep mono breeds there enemies | Dec 17 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Not always | Dec 17 21:04 |
| schestowitz | They just play with fire | Dec 17 21:04 |
| schestowitz | They scold the cop who comes by and asks what they are up to | Dec 17 21:04 |
| schestowitz | ANd they throw matches at the cop | Dec 17 21:04 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Don't worry, I won't. I just can't get over the behavour; how can people think bullying someone will make you believe them? | Dec 17 21:05 |
| oiaohm | Bully them and they ask questions and fairly quicky find out how flawed mono really is. schestowitz | Dec 17 21:17 |
| oiaohm | So making a true enemy out of someone would have been undecided. | Dec 17 21:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: then they attack the person/platform | Dec 17 21:19 |
| schestowitz | So outsider know who's winning the arguments | Dec 17 21:19 |
| schestowitz | "@thistleweb] didn't Obama stand on a platform of "change"? What has he actually changed? He's continued or accelerated most of Bush's disasters" | Dec 17 21:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/15807707172835328 | Dec 17 21:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: RT @Ziggy_Daddy | Dec 17 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | whoa, crap. | Dec 17 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | another bug | Dec 17 21:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | RT @Ziggy_Daddy You know people, 8 yrs of damage by the Bush admin. will take a long, long time to fix. // true! When do they start? | Dec 17 21:25 |
| schestowitz | a few bug are no big deal | Dec 17 21:27 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60618484 | Dec 17 21:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Rui Seabra (ruiseabra)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 20:51:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Today PT government tv channel only said Manning leaked secret US files. Nothing on the war crimes it proved. Shame on #RTP | Dec 17 21:27 |
| schestowitz | But if you're a perfectionist.. | Dec 17 21:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15871921711218688 | Dec 17 21:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @schestowitz they should if they havent | Dec 17 21:27 |
| schestowitz | re "https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15871921711218688" | Dec 17 21:27 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a tweet? | Dec 17 21:27 |
| schestowitz | @ender2070 yeah, it's a good thing that @sbanwart warned me the article is not correct though, they should inform the author | Dec 17 21:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i know what this bug is | Dec 17 21:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i didn't know twitter preserved newlines in tweets! | Dec 17 21:29 |
| oiaohm | FurnaceBoy: Obama did put the basic banking regulations back. | Dec 17 21:35 |
| oiaohm | That clinton removed and bush did not fix. | Dec 17 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Meh. He barely did enough | Dec 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Enough given one's expectations | Dec 17 21:40 |
| schestowitz | A better solution is locking up the many Madoffs | Dec 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Taking away their asets | Dec 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Which they earned by defrauding the public for bonuses | Dec 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Seize their Swiss bank accts | Dec 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Create new banks while shutting down the misbehaving ones | Dec 17 21:41 |
| oiaohm | Lot of them were stupid enought to believe there own trick. schestowitz | Dec 17 21:42 |
| oiaohm | And invested in it. | Dec 17 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Something 'radical' (just) like that | Dec 17 21:42 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's no excuse | Dec 17 21:42 |
| schestowitz | To them it's more like "everyone else was doing it" | Dec 17 21:42 |
| oiaohm | The maths guys who dreamed up the trick. | Dec 17 21:42 |
| oiaohm | That is another matter. | Dec 17 21:42 |
| oiaohm | They did it made profit and walked away. | Dec 17 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like Blair and bush [hl FurnaceBoy] | Dec 17 21:46 |
| FurnaceBoy | obama is involved in perpetuating the status quo. | Dec 17 22:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's his job to sell that. | Dec 17 22:00 |
| schestowitz | he does well | Dec 17 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Gets people passive while it goes on | Dec 17 22:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_724911&v=3PpYasA94sU | Dec 17 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Make Sure The Kiddies Are Sleeping Before ..... .::. Size~: 122.91 KB | Dec 17 22:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/dec/16/openleaks-brusselsleaks-tradeleaks-whistleblowing | Dec 17 22:05 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Openleaks? Brusselsleaks? Tradeleaks? The market's getting crowded | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 144.01 KB | Dec 17 22:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the race thing is important. | Dec 17 22:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: keeps certain groups worried about skin colour instead of < EVERYTHING ELSE > | Dec 17 22:08 |
| schestowitz | where? | Dec 17 22:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: then keep throwing in buzzwords like MUSLIM, KENYAN, SOCIALIST, etc, etc. | Dec 17 22:08 |
| schestowitz | The Sudan story? | Dec 17 22:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | no. | Dec 17 22:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | sheesh | Dec 17 22:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | the fact that Obama is not lily white. is deliberate and very helpful. | Dec 17 22:08 |
| schestowitz | they also have the word "yellow" | Dec 17 22:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | keeps certain groups permanently distracted. | Dec 17 22:08 |
| schestowitz | It describes white people | Dec 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | so fake separation based on imaginary palette | Dec 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | First People are 'yellow' | Dec 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | And so-called 'yellow' built the US, as slaves | Dec 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | But people only think of black slaves | Dec 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Like victims of German death camps are rarely shown as gypsy or gay | Dec 17 22:10 |
| schestowitz | But I don't have an explanation for it | Dec 17 22:10 |
| schestowitz | How many slaves were from each ethnicity? | Dec 17 22:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | bulk african | Dec 17 22:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | used in both north and south america | Dec 17 22:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: as you probably know, the ships used to sail from UK with convicts, unload, scoop up slaves on the return | Dec 17 22:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: profitable both ways | Dec 17 22:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: equipped for either | Dec 17 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Ha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOVeDwFLd1Q | Dec 17 22:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Songify This - MOMMY & DADDY SONG! .::. Size~: 159.38 KB | Dec 17 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Remix | Dec 17 22:13 |
| *gnufreex has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | Dec 17 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | Catchy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44mqiBrB0zI | Dec 17 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Songify This - I'M NOT A WITCH - sung by Christine O'Donnell .::. Size~: 151.37 KB | Dec 17 22:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: heh, pushback to me mentioning Madoff's $7bln compensation not unequivocally celebrated news | Dec 17 22:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | as expected | Dec 17 22:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | what's $50bln compared to the fraud perpetuated daily on non-super-rich Americans? NOTHING. | Dec 17 22:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | but we are supposed to get excited that some wealthy get some recovered money? | Dec 17 22:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | the fraud is more than $50 bln DAILY | Dec 17 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Yup | Dec 17 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there was also a caste of Chinese 'slaves' in the new world | Dec 17 22:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I forget the exact circumstances; thousands of them lived where i grew up, they were big players in the gold rush | Dec 17 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60623690 | Dec 17 22:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 22:54:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @thevarguy great work on that latest Novell post | Dec 17 22:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | coincidentally i lived at various times in 3 of the first rush sites | Dec 17 22:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | :) | Dec 17 22:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/12/16/novells-sale-to-attachmate-the-untold-story-finally-revealed/ | Dec 17 22:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Novell's Sale to Attachmate: The Untold Story Finally Revealed | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 61.04 KB | Dec 17 22:55 |
| schestowitz | So much research needed for it | Dec 17 22:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 17 23:00 |
| FurnaceBoy | in each message, the pushback has contained overlaid presumptions | Dec 17 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | and insinuations. | Dec 17 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's hilarious. | Dec 17 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | first message implied that i was saying that the $7bln recovery was "not good news". | Dec 17 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | second message implied that i was saying that the widow should have put it somewhere else. | Dec 17 23:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | it was obvious I was being sarcastic. | Dec 17 23:01 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Dec 17 23:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101213/13543912257/her-morning-elegance | Dec 17 23:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 'Her Morning Elegance' Artists Create Elegant Reason To Buy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 101.21 KB | Dec 17 23:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/15903977770057731 | Dec 17 23:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: Curious how many of Madoff's investors made their money scamming in the first place. Financiers... at least somebody's looking out for them. | Dec 17 23:07 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60625462 | Dec 17 23:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 23:41:07 UTC - Identi.ca: "Advertising is far from impotent or harmless; it is not a mere mirror image. Its power is real, and on the brink of a great increase..." | Dec 17 23:42 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60625475 | Dec 17 23:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 17-Dec-10 23:41:35 UTC - Identi.ca: "..Not the power to brainwash overnight, but the power to create subtle and real change. The power to prevail." --Eric Clark #pr #spin #lie | Dec 17 23:42 |
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