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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/15921220750942208Dec 18 00:35
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @_the_mad_hatter @schestowitz guess who claims I'm #sexist #racist and  #homophobic ?Dec 18 00:35
schestowitzme: "@ender2070 let me guess it's the psychotic megalomaniac lunatic who sells sex toys for a living."Dec 18 00:35
FurnaceBoy.........?Dec 18 00:42
schestowitzYou need to see the contextDec 18 00:43
schestowitzI don't name the trollsDec 18 00:43
FurnaceBoykDec 18 00:43
schestowitzThey read IRC logsDec 18 00:43
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: http://satwcomic.com/leakingDec 18 00:44
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Leaking - Scandinavia and the World .::. Size~: 28.51 KBDec 18 00:44
schestowitzjust dented it, gotta see it yourself :-)Dec 18 00:44
schestowitzThe US passes many new laws now..Dec 18 00:51
schestowitzDangerousDec 18 00:51
schestowitzOverriding the constitution....Dec 18 00:51
schestowitz"Under a law passed in 1933, the Nazi regime carried out the compulsory sterilization of over 400,000 individuals labeled as having hereditary defects" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_reichDec 18 00:51
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schestowitzOn 17 December 2010 21:30, Michael Dorrington <michael.dorrington@gmail.com> wrote:Dec 18 00:56
schestowitz    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=long-live-the-webDec 18 00:56
schestowitz    "Long Live the Web: A Call for Continued Open Standards and NeutralityDec 18 00:56
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Long Live the Web: A Call for Continued Open Standards and Neutrality: Scientific American .::. Size~: 100.83 KBDec 18 00:56
schestowitz    The Web is critical not merely to the digital revolution but to ourDec 18 00:56
schestowitz    continued prosperity—and even our liberty. Like democracy itself, itDec 18 00:56
schestowitz    needs defendingDec 18 00:56
schestowitz    By Tim Berners-Lee"Dec 18 00:56
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sebsebseb Dec 18 00:58
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: hiDec 18 00:59
FurnaceBoyhiDec 18 00:59
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: no email from that guy yet, so maybe I should point out that I emailed him on identica soon,  or you could just make the avater of course :DDec 18 01:02
FurnaceBoyi willDec 18 01:02
FurnaceBoyjust gotta do some emergency work on my vps then i'm goodDec 18 01:02
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: oh right you mean, you would start work on it soon?Dec 18 01:02
sebsebsebsoon as in  some time in the next few hours?Dec 18 01:03
FurnaceBoyyesDec 18 01:03
sebsebsebok nice :)Dec 18 01:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/15934244375240704Dec 18 01:04
TechrightsBot-sc@laurelrusswurm: @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz excellent point.  Imposed democracy is worse ... kind of like mandatory volunteerismDec 18 01:04
schestowitzoh, for context to others: https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/15933624029286400Dec 18 01:05
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm "success of democracy depends on..parties involved bn well-informed." // helps 2 if all parties want #democracyDec 18 01:05
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: its cold here tonight,  and I slept well most of the day basicalley, so uhmm  I might not bother sleeping tonight and have a rather long day instead, not sure yetDec 18 01:05
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: hehe, well. obviously i actually meant that ... there are those who prefer plutocracy. but you know me well enough :)Dec 18 01:06
FurnaceBoyaka kleptocracyDec 18 01:06
sebsebsebanyway the guy who I contacted about avater, has I guess a load of other things to do on the weekend and so on anyway, so probably won't be much of a priority for himDec 18 01:06
sebsebsebhmm if its made in the next few hours, I can upload in a bit or whenever I do it :)Dec 18 01:07
sebsebsebemergency work with your VPS?Dec 18 01:07
FurnaceBoyyeahDec 18 01:07
FurnaceBoyi decided to move from (reliable) colo to vpsDec 18 01:07
FurnaceBoyto save moneyDec 18 01:07
sebsebsebwhats colo?Dec 18 01:08
FurnaceBoyunfortunately.... the vps instance has been incredibly unreliable.Dec 18 01:08
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60628756Dec 18 01:08
TechrightsBot-sc@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-10 01:03:25 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz perhaps we should drop the faux democracy crap and see if there is a real participatory political index.Dec 18 01:08
FurnaceBoyit's lately crashing 5 times a day. so i have to move to a new instance immediately.Dec 18 01:08
sebsebsebohDec 18 01:08
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: colocation. where you put your hardware in a data centre and pay rent.Dec 18 01:08
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: VPS = virtual private server. somebody else's hardware, you rent space and CPU.Dec 18 01:08
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: cheaperDec 18 01:08
sebsebsebdoesn't decent graphics design, even for small stuff like avatars,take quiet a while or?Dec 18 01:09
FurnaceBoyit's basically a whole day's work to migrate.Dec 18 01:09
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: i plan to do something simple.Dec 18 01:09
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: let's hope u like itDec 18 01:09
sebsebsebok sure something simple, but hopefuly also reasonable looking :)Dec 18 01:09
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: i don't know your taste. what's an avatar you really like? can u show meDec 18 01:10
sebsebsebno not reallyDec 18 01:10
sebsebseb,butDec 18 01:10
sebsebsebwhen it comes to coloursDec 18 01:10
sebsebsebI tend to like blue and greenDec 18 01:11
sebsebsebdark blue and green for exampleDec 18 01:11
FurnaceBoykDec 18 01:11
sebsebseband yeah other colours are alright as well really, depending on how they are used and suchDec 18 01:12
FurnaceBoyit would be nice to see something you like a lot.Dec 18 01:14
sebsebsebto be honest I like nearly any computer graphics design I guessDec 18 01:15
sebsebsebput some kind of effect in it,  of some sort with lines maybe, or I don't know, just something,  or graphics program effect or something, I don't knowDec 18 01:16
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: anyway it will probably be good enough whatever is madeDec 18 01:16
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 18 01:16
FurnaceBoyno problemDec 18 01:17
sebsebseblines  maybe not, but I mean like some sort of effect yeah,  so its not just looking really boringDec 18 01:17
FurnaceBoyrightDec 18 01:18
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60629184Dec 18 01:23
TechrightsBot-sc@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-10 01:14:27 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz It seems that however weak the implementation, call it "democracy" and it cures all ills.Dec 18 01:23
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/conscioususer/statuses/15891326662873088Dec 18 01:23
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schestowitzWho is that?Dec 18 01:24
schestowitzJason Smith?Dec 18 01:24
FurnaceBoyit's not even an implementation.Dec 18 01:26
FurnaceBoyit's just "the status quo", and if you tell enough Fox viewers they live in a free, democratic society, they will kill you for disagreeing.Dec 18 01:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/15935840953831424Dec 18 01:31
TechrightsBot-sc@qu1j0t3: .@laurelrusswurm imposed plutocracy/kleptocracy isn't a picnic either. ;-) @schestowitzDec 18 01:31
schestowitzI'd missed thatDec 18 01:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/15936890637127680Dec 18 01:31
TechrightsBot-sc@laurelrusswurm: @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz True enough.  Personally, I'm rooting for real democracy.  & I wish there was some.Dec 18 01:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nachoua/status/15939810120179712Dec 18 01:31
TechrightsBot-sc@nachoua: @Nilechatter @schestowitz حلوةةةDec 18 01:31
schestowitzWHat does that say?Dec 18 01:31
schestowitzThere's this Egyptian journalists who quotes me dailyDec 18 01:32
schestowitzts/t/Dec 18 01:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wwwMadRantzNet/status/15939933776646144Dec 18 01:33
TechrightsBot-sc@wwwMadRantzNet: @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm TruthProject #9 Lies_Lies_Lies http://madrantz.net/BlogRantz/?p=607  The Video the World needs to see. RTDec 18 01:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhameia/status/15941969037500416Dec 18 01:33
TechrightsBot-sc@jhameia: @schestowitz I know nothing of her to be able to judge that. Let her have her trial. #mooreandmeDec 18 01:33
schestowitzArdin...Dec 18 01:33
schestowitzJust revenging a playboy...Dec 18 01:33
Ender2070hey heyDec 18 01:35
schestowitzHelloDec 18 01:36
FurnaceBoyEnder2070: hiDec 18 01:37
Ender2070just got home from workDec 18 01:37
FurnaceBoyhappy it's friday ehDec 18 01:48
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60630405Dec 18 01:51
TechrightsBot-sc@Danny (tekk)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-10 01:48:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that'd be a brilliant conspiracy, have bad stuff come rapid succession so that it gets forgotten soonerDec 18 01:51
schestowitzExactly.Dec 18 01:51
oiaohmhttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/12/17/2226230/Carrier-Trick-To-Save-IPv4-Could-Help-Spammers   really all the talk about running out of IPv4Dec 18 01:57
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Carrier Trick To Save IPv4 Could Help Spammers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 138.9 KBDec 18 01:57
oiaohmThere are enough carrirer tricks that we never need to.Dec 18 01:58
oiaohmBut the headache is filtering becomes harder.Dec 18 01:58
oiaohmAlso that trick starts stuffing up p2p as well.Dec 18 01:59
Ender2070yeahDec 18 02:07
Ender2070TGIFDec 18 02:07
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODkzMgDec 18 02:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: [Phoronix] Humble Bundle #2 Breaches $900k, On Way To $1M USD .::. Size~: 17.77 KBDec 18 02:16
sebsebsebhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODkzMgDec 18 02:16
TechrightsBot-scTitle: [Phoronix] Humble Bundle #2 Breaches $900k, On Way To $1M USD .::. Size~: 17.77 KBDec 18 02:16
FurnaceBoy"I would love an invitation to the White House today. But at 17, it wasn't cool. It was so bourgeois. My sister and I were placard-carrying antiwar demonstrators, and my waist-length hair, long skirts and beads were an expression of my distaste for everything my parents stood for. That their daughters were part of a counterculture opposing the policies of the U.S. government didn't seemDec 18 02:32
FurnaceBoyto register on my parents. So when the invitation came for the annual White House Christmas party, my mother issued the order: You're going to the White House, you're going to look good, and you're going to behave. My mother was a former Marine sergeant. You didn't argue.Dec 18 02:32
FurnaceBoyhttp://salon.com/a/snCAfAADec 18 02:32
TechrightsBot-scTitle: When I was stoned at the Nixon White House party - Life stories - Salon.com .::. Size~: 70.9 KBDec 18 02:32
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: working on the avater yet?Dec 18 03:30
FurnaceBoynoDec 18 03:30
FurnaceBoylemme fire up PS nowDec 18 03:31
FurnaceBoysebsebseb: i have a boring oneDec 18 04:38
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: okDec 18 04:41
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 18 04:42
FurnaceBoyjust gotta deal with remaining server crapDec 18 04:42
sebsebsebokDec 18 04:44
Ender2070damn private schoolsDec 18 05:11
Ender2070once they have your money they ignore youDec 18 05:11
Ender2070i've been waiting over a month for my diplomaDec 18 05:11
Ender2070plus, those who paid to go to graduation already have theirsDec 18 05:11
Ender2070GAHHHHH!!!!Dec 18 05:12
Ender2070GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dec 18 05:13
Ender2070I shouldn't be surprised, they run MicrosoftDec 18 05:13
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 18 05:15
Ender2070even my teacher was a ms zealotDec 18 05:17
Ender2070lied about linuxDec 18 05:17
Ender2070"poor man's OS"Dec 18 05:17
Ender2070"No ACLs"Dec 18 05:17
FurnaceBoylulz!Dec 18 05:17
Ender2070im like "What about SELinux?"Dec 18 05:17
FurnaceBoydid he USE ACLs?Dec 18 05:17
Ender2070"Oh Brandon likes to argue"Dec 18 05:17
FurnaceBoyit's like that canard about "someone to sue".Dec 18 05:17
FurnaceBoywho ever sued 'em?Dec 18 05:17
Ender2070the schools biggest sponsors were Microsoft and RimDec 18 05:18
Ender2070just a coincidenceDec 18 05:18
Ender2070oh yeahDec 18 05:19
Ender2070and he tried saying linux was less secure because it was open sourceDec 18 05:19
Ender2070everyone could see the source code and find the exploitsDec 18 05:19
Ender2070told that to my friend at University of Toronto, and he laughedDec 18 05:20
Ender2070his infosec teacher says the oppositeDec 18 05:20
Ender2070U of T isn't microsoft sponsored, and they are one of the top universities in CanadaDec 18 05:20
Ender2070i wish i went there insteadDec 18 05:23
Ender2070lolDec 18 05:23
Ender2070heh, my teacher probably didnt like linux because rebooting it didnt fix his problems (ROFL)Dec 18 05:24
Ender2070he'd have to actually look up stuff, too hardDec 18 05:24
FurnaceBoyit's their world, we only live in itDec 18 05:24
Ender2070on windows, if anything goes wrong, just rebootDec 18 05:25
Ender2070thats why they made a tv show called "reboot", to train kids at an early age to be prepared for WindowsNT+Dec 18 05:25
FurnaceBoy:-XDec 18 05:27
Ender2070oh myDec 18 05:27
Ender2070you know what else they trained kids for in that show?Dec 18 05:27
Ender2070Megabyte and Hexidecimal were viruses that hung around in every episode. Teaching kids its normal for viruses to hang around in your computer.Dec 18 05:28
Ender2070LOLDec 18 05:28
FurnaceBoyughDec 18 05:28
FurnaceBoythere's a blog post in it. :)Dec 18 05:29
FurnaceBoymeanwhile, /me goes to cryDec 18 05:29
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2-GTrfhBywDec 18 05:29
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  YouTube - Reboot Cartoon Theme  .::. Size~: 114.67 KBDec 18 05:29
Ender2070if you wanted to participate in a game you had to reboot first tooDec 18 05:29
Ender2070remember win98?Dec 18 05:30
Ender2070hahahaDec 18 05:30
Ender2070i could keep going with thisDec 18 05:30
FurnaceBoyctl-alt-delDec 18 05:30
Ender2070anyways im going to bedDec 18 05:35
FurnaceBoynite!Dec 18 05:35
Ender2070nightDec 18 05:35
oiaohmI still remember my course.Dec 18 05:37
oiaohmMy background was heavy Linux.  And the teacher tried to set me up by saying I could only use the software that was in the storesDec 18 05:38
oiaohmProblem was every MS disk I found was had no legal description of source.Dec 18 05:39
oiaohmLinux disks in there were NT 4.0 age in 2006.  And they were using those to say that Linux was worse than Windows.Dec 18 05:39
oiaohmYet they had legal copies of NT 4.0.Dec 18 05:39
oiaohmResult was not pritty but I passed without question.Dec 18 05:40
oiaohmWhen the windows users could not make nt 4.0 work on modern hardware yet I could make the old linux's kinda of work.Dec 18 05:41
oiaohmReason I back ported the drivers myself was the reason the Linux's kinda worked.Dec 18 05:44
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/60643470Dec 18 08:17
TechrightsBot-sc@Dayo (jargon)'s status on Saturday, 18-Dec-10 08:13:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz lol "latte" is a fairly naughty slang word in german,referencing an erection. Rep. Goodlatte == Rep. Goodwood. :PDec 18 08:17
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIoG4PlEPtYDec 18 09:06
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  YouTube - BACKIN UP SONG!!  .::. Size~: 167.53 KBDec 18 09:06
schestowitz>  Dear Doctor Roy,Dec 18 09:46
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:46
schestowitz> #Here it goes the Spanish version. Be of good courage & keep up the goodDec 18 09:46
schestowitz> fight. The truth is on your side & that' is all what matters.Dec 18 09:46
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> #These trolls & paid mercenaries always gonna use the same #tactics,Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> remember the "Halloween Memos" it's part of their strategy. That's whyDec 18 09:47
schestowitz> as you said it, do not waste time replying them 'cause #they just wannaDec 18 09:47
schestowitz> derail you & fall on their side.Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> "Lie, lie, lie, something will remain" HimmlerDec 18 09:47
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> "Miente, miente, miente que algo queda" HimmlerDec 18 09:47
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> #forgive me & been busy studying & have four kids to support, theDec 18 09:47
schestowitz> situation is getting hard, so I'm getting into Perl to move ahead.Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> #But as soon as I see something regarding the European & World wideDec 18 09:47
schestowitz> fight against swapts I will catch up.Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> #This time I saw they trying  to mess with my doctor Roy & nobody messesDec 18 09:47
schestowitz> with you, that's why I have to get it in Spanish.Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz>Dec 18 09:47
schestowitz> My regards to you, Shane && all the fellows who make Techrights possibleDec 18 09:47
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FurnaceBoy:)Dec 18 12:00
FurnaceBoyobviously not americanDec 18 12:00
FurnaceBoyremembers history and tacticsDec 18 12:00
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/enodvDec 18 13:11
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schestowitzFurnaceBoy: AmericanDec 18 13:34
schestowitzBut not USianDec 18 13:34
schestowitzDon't fall for the Monroe doctrineDec 18 13:35
schestowitzhttp://arstechnica.com/software/news/2010/12/oracle-butts-into-the-online-collaboration-space-with-cloud-office.arsDec 18 14:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Oracle butts into online collaboration space with Cloud Office .::. Size~: 30.89 KBDec 18 14:21
schestowitzhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/12/16/1953216/Debian-60-To-Feature-a-Completely-Free-Kernel?from=rssDec 18 14:21
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Debian 6.0 To Feature a Completely Free Kernel - Slashdot .::. Size~: 165.9 KBDec 18 14:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/16134163606282240Dec 18 14:22
TechrightsBot-sc@aveeksen: RT @schestowitz: I have some OLPC-related leaks that I've never been allowed 2 publish because the source is not protected.Defend the rightsDec 18 14:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/16134555605929985Dec 18 14:22
TechrightsBot-sc@aveeksen: @schestowitz Think out something to protect them and share it laterDec 18 14:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/16136251258183681Dec 18 14:23
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @aveeksen it's not so simple. Even if the name of the country is named, my source will be in danger of being identified.Dec 18 14:23
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRsDec 18 14:34
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schestowitzLooks fakeDec 18 14:34
schestowitzWith small CPU it cannot synthesise translation for text that's hard to scanDec 18 14:35
schestowitzhttp://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/amazing_instant_translation_app_looks_great_in_vid.phpDec 18 14:36
schestowitz"The video (above) looks great, but I tested it on some Spanish text on both my computer screen and printed out on paper with little satisfaction. The translations fly in and out, change constantly, don't make a lot of sense and are very hard to read."Dec 18 14:36
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Amazing Instant Translation App Looks Great in Video  .::. Size~: 53.86 KBDec 18 14:36
schestowitzHaDec 18 14:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/16141267800948737Dec 18 15:11
TechrightsBot-sc@aveeksen: @schestowitz that is true. But atleast you can put up a press release on how olpc is being misused. Don't name the countryDec 18 15:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/16148618746535936Dec 18 15:12
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @aveeksen people generally know corruption is used against #OLPC - without naming the corrupt ones we'll achieve nothingDec 18 15:12
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schestowitzhttp://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=linux%2C+bsd&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=0&smoothing=3Dec 18 15:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/16151411712598016Dec 18 15:38
TechrightsBot-sc@aveeksen: @schestowitz So what's your plan of action?Dec 18 15:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/16155218152521728Dec 18 15:39
TechrightsBot-sc@schestowitz: @aveeksen  I just kept it stored (probably never to be published) since 2009. Another leak took me 1 year to publish, threat to my source.Dec 18 15:39
schestowitzhttp://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/2010/12/17/new-html5-features-in-opera-11 "Internal Server Error"Dec 18 15:58
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FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that may be a distinction without a difference.Dec 18 18:37
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: looking at recent things surfacing in CanadaDec 18 18:38
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: although, of course, one would not want to indict South America :)Dec 18 18:38
schestowitzI love south America for its really good understanding of freedomDec 18 18:55
schestowitzThey are major victims of corporations, tooDec 18 18:55
FurnaceBoyyes there's a revolutionary spirit there that the North lacks.Dec 18 19:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/16172345714540544Dec 18 19:06
TechrightsBot-sc@ender2070: @sbanwart @schestowitz chill, people just don't want to see #Fedora lose it's identity. Correct the author of the article, not the messengerDec 18 19:06
FurnaceBoyalso, the South has long been a victim of the NorthDec 18 19:06
FurnaceBoypoliticallyDec 18 19:06
FurnaceBoyconstant secret warfareDec 18 19:06
schestowitzcoupsDec 18 19:06
FurnaceBoyWL gonna help with that :)Dec 18 19:06
FurnaceBoycoups, clandestine ops, suppport.. never endingDec 18 19:06
FurnaceBoyoh, and exploitationDec 18 19:07
FurnaceBoythat's a huge ongoing problemDec 18 19:07
FurnaceBoyEcuador, Brazil, Peru.. oil companies, resources of all kindsDec 18 19:07
FurnaceBoyBrazil a major victimDec 18 19:07
FurnaceBoystill today, because it's profitableDec 18 19:07
FurnaceBoya lot of secret history hereDec 18 19:07
FurnaceBoySouth Am is one of the last frontlines in the war between ancient and modern peoplesDec 18 19:08
FurnaceBoyand it's getting bloodyDec 18 19:08
FurnaceBoypeople are dyingDec 18 19:08
FurnaceBoyin the fight against US corporationsDec 18 19:08
FurnaceBoysame as NigeriaDec 18 19:08
FurnaceBoyNiger DeltaDec 18 19:08
FurnaceBoysame concept as Afghanistan, i guess , just smaller scaleDec 18 19:09
FurnaceBoyand so far they haven't dared send in US troops ... or did they? and we just don't know?Dec 18 19:09
FurnaceBoyi am sure it's plannedDec 18 19:09
FurnaceBoy"pacify the region"Dec 18 19:09
FurnaceBoyneutralise insurgentsDec 18 19:09
schestowitzThey can support juntaDec 18 19:10
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_junta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorshipDec 18 19:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Military junta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 40.76 KBDec 18 19:10
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Military dictatorship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 76.85 KBDec 18 19:10
FurnaceBoywell, historically that's what they've done.Dec 18 19:10
FurnaceBoybut the war is ongoingDec 18 19:10
FurnaceBoythe US/CIA has always been behind fascism in south americaDec 18 19:11
FurnaceBoythey're still activeDec 18 19:11
FurnaceBoycentral america tooDec 18 19:11
FurnaceBoyHondurasDec 18 19:11
FurnaceBoyif WL helps expose this it will be fantasticDec 18 19:11
schestowitzHas it?Dec 18 19:14
schestowitzThat's the thing...Dec 18 19:15
schestowitzI hardly found any..Dec 18 19:15
schestowitzBearing in mind only  drop in the bucket as been released [..]Dec 18 19:15
schestowitz[..]Dec 18 19:15
schestowitz I was waiting to see some unsealed docs about support of people like Pinochet if it goes that far backDec 18 19:15
schestowitzSometimes merely by reference in more recent diplomatic cablesDec 18 19:16
FurnaceBoyit doesn't go far back.Dec 18 19:18
FurnaceBoyit's all recent.Dec 18 19:18
FurnaceBoyaiuiDec 18 19:18
FurnaceBoywe'll have to wait more decades to get all the dirtDec 18 19:19
FurnaceBoyas expectdDec 18 19:19
FurnaceBoythere's a pile of stuff on iraq we won't see till we're old, schestowitzDec 18 19:19
FurnaceBoybut it will indict all involvedDec 18 19:19
schestowitzI knowDec 18 19:21
schestowitzI had a chat about it in a restaurant today...Dec 18 19:21
schestowitzCause with the leaks I had..Dec 18 19:21
schestowitzthe trolls would rebut bu...Dec 18 19:21
schestowitzSaying "it's so old"Dec 18 19:21
schestowitzAs if newly-discovered crimes are 'expired'Dec 18 19:21
schestowitzLike there's shelf life or it's less severe if time passesDec 18 19:22
schestowitzSome people find leaks like the ones I go after manacinDec 18 19:22
schestowitzCause they too have skeletons in their wardrobeDec 18 19:22
FurnaceBoytoo old, haha.Dec 18 19:22
schestowitzAnd they'd hate to find many leakers out there going through their trash or whateverDec 18 19:22
FurnaceBoyyeah that's a good litmus test of attitudesDec 18 19:23
FurnaceBoy"Are you still angry about what Nixon and Kissinger did in South East Asia?"Dec 18 19:23
FurnaceBoyif not, they're either ignorant, or don't care about anything substantial.Dec 18 19:23
FurnaceBoythe Vietnam war was at least 5 x the scale of Iraq, in terms of lives and destructionDec 18 19:23
FurnaceBoythe South East asian war, i should say.Dec 18 19:24
schestowitzDid you see the new Kissinger article?Dec 18 19:24
schestowitzFrom HitchensDec 18 19:24
FurnaceBoyno.Dec 18 19:24
schestowitzhttp://www.slate.com/id/2277744/"Dec 18 19:24
TechrightsBot-scError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 400 Bad RequestDec 18 19:24
schestowitzhttp://www.slate.com/id/2277744/Dec 18 19:24
TechrightsBot-scTitle: The Nixon tapes remind us what a vile creature Henry Kissinger is. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine  .::. Size~: 55.2 KBDec 18 19:24
FurnaceBoySlate, huh.Dec 18 19:24
schestowitz"Here's what should now happen, and let's see if it does. Henry Kissinger should have the door shut in his face by every decent person and should be shamed, ostracized, and excluded. No more dinners in his honor; no more respectful audiences for his absurdly overpriced public appearances; no more smirking photographs with hostesses and celebrities; no more soliciting of his worthless opinions by sycophantic editors andDec 18 19:24
schestowitzproducers. One could have demanded this at almost any time during the years since his role as the only unindicted conspirator in the Nixon/Watergate gang, and since the exposure of his war crimes and crimes against humanity in Indochina, Chile, Argentina, Cyprus, East Timor, and several other places."Dec 18 19:24
schestowitzHe gives the turd another reason to shoot backDec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoyi don HUffPo won't touch anything historical..Dec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoydon't thnk HP will*Dec 18 19:25
schestowitzAssuming Hitchens dies from cancer soonDec 18 19:25
schestowitzIt's not fairDec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoy"Henry Kissinger should have the door shut in his     │Dec 18 19:25
schestowitzKissinger should have gone firstDec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoy                          | face by every decent person and should be shamed, ostracized, and excluded."Dec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoy^^ this is equally true of Blair and Bush.Dec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoyand everyone else involved in Iraq.Dec 18 19:25
FurnaceBoybut they get book tours, interviews, OprahDec 18 19:25
schestowitzOprah LOLDec 18 19:26
FurnaceBoyBush on Oprah.Dec 18 19:26
schestowitzTHe American "trisha"Dec 18 19:26
schestowitzBring the trash inDec 18 19:26
schestowitzAttract trash-diggersDec 18 19:26
schestowitzAliens, Zune....Dec 18 19:26
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/tomphilpott/status/16212671296708608Dec 18 19:29
TechrightsBot-sc@tomphilpott: And MS-Dos borrowed heavily from Digital Research’s CP/M. http://bit.ly/dEUOCr So y care about what Gates thinks on education and ag?Dec 18 19:29
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: Bill Gates, business genius? « LBO News from Doug Henwood .::. Size~: 79.27 KBDec 18 19:29
MinceR"borrowed heavily" -- quite the understatementDec 18 19:32
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 18 19:35
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sebsebsebhiDec 18 19:39
FurnaceBoyhiDec 18 19:39
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: ok made avatar yet?Dec 18 19:45
FurnaceBoylet me send you the boring oneDec 18 19:47
FurnaceBoyi couldn't send last night because of my server issuesDec 18 19:47
FurnaceBoythere are no effects in it. but I might do something else later. http://telegraphics.com.au/~toby/sebsebseb.pngDec 18 19:48
TechrightsBot-scError processing the URLDec 18 19:48
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: telegraphics.com.au ?  uh?Dec 18 19:53
FurnaceBoyis that a problem?Dec 18 19:54
sebsebsebI was just wondering what the domain isDec 18 19:54
sebsebsebalso that link didn't workDec 18 19:54
FurnaceBoyAustraliaDec 18 19:54
sebsebsebmaybe since the weird character in the urlDec 18 19:54
FurnaceBoyno, that's perfectly acceptable.Dec 18 19:54
FurnaceBoyit could be that dns hasn't propagated... odd.Dec 18 19:54
FurnaceBoytry adding www.Dec 18 19:54
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: ok very basicDec 18 19:56
sebsebseblooks quite big in browser as well, but I guess it becomes smaller when upload as avatarDec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoyyes.Dec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoytwitter/identi.ca will scale downDec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoyi'll try to do something more interesting laterDec 18 19:56
sebsebsebas a tempory avater I could use that, but yes please, I would want something more interestingDec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoyactually i have an ida...Dec 18 19:56
sebsebsebI mean betterDec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoyidea*Dec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoyyesDec 18 19:56
FurnaceBoyit's really only meant as temporaryDec 18 19:57
FurnaceBoyi have an ideaDec 18 19:57
sebsebsebso who is telegraphics?Dec 18 19:57
FurnaceBoymeDec 18 19:58
sebsebsebits .au though the domain?Dec 18 19:58
sebsebsebnot .caDec 18 19:58
FurnaceBoyrightDec 18 19:58
FurnaceBoythe domain is only a nameDec 18 19:58
sebsebsebHow come?Dec 18 19:58
FurnaceBoywhy not?Dec 18 19:58
FurnaceBoyyou can register a domain anywhereDec 18 19:58
sebsebsebyeah, butDec 18 19:59
sebsebsebpeople tend to go for .com or for a country domain of the one  they live inDec 18 19:59
FurnaceBoyi used to live there.Dec 18 19:59
sebsebsebok that explains itDec 18 19:59
sebsebsebso are you Australlian or Canadian?Dec 18 19:59
FurnaceBoyauDec 18 19:59
sebsebsebohDec 18 20:00
sebsebseband you moved to Canada why and when?Dec 18 20:00
FurnaceBoya few years ago. for a job.Dec 18 20:00
schestowitz"@JesseBrown: @mgeist, am I crazy or does this PC attack ad infringe multiple copyrights? Fair dealing?Can't see it. http://bit.ly/hVshVc "Dec 18 20:00
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  YouTube - McGuinty's Backtrack Boogie  .::. Size~: 81.54 KBDec 18 20:00
sebsebsebok whats your job?  and so you  lived in Australlia al your life untill moving to Canada?Dec 18 20:00
FurnaceBoypretty much.Dec 18 20:01
FurnaceBoyi write softwareDec 18 20:01
FurnaceBoyin fact if you go to that site, you can see some of my softwareDec 18 20:02
FurnaceBoythat i do for personal interestDec 18 20:02
FurnaceBoymy day job is more like web development at the moment.Dec 18 20:02
FurnaceBoybut c'est la vieDec 18 20:02
sebsebsebyeah I went to your homepage a little while agoDec 18 20:02
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: so some stuff on there from diffenret people, and your Toby?Dec 18 20:04
FurnaceBoythe software part is all mine.Dec 18 20:04
FurnaceBoythe galleries are not mineDec 18 20:04
schestowitzToby for government.Dec 18 20:12
schestowitzhttp://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=unix%2Clinux&year_start=1970&year_end=2008&corpus=0&smoothing=3Dec 18 20:13
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Google Labs - Books Ngram Viewer .::. Size~: 6.7 KBDec 18 20:13
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I'm your unelected Education minister! Phuck You!Dec 18 20:16
schestowitzmeh!Dec 18 20:17
FurnaceBoy:)Dec 18 20:19
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: you don't like it? VOTE ME OUT!Dec 18 20:22
FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/mike_barber/status/16206972151922689Dec 18 20:22
TechrightsBot-sc@mike_barber: RT @EmergentCulture: Steve Biko : "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed."Dec 18 20:22
schestowitzHaaa!Dec 18 20:26
FurnaceBoyu know who biko is?Dec 18 20:27
schestowitzI came across him beforeDec 18 20:32
schestowitzCan't remember contextDec 18 20:33
FurnaceBoySouth African apartheid protestor, was killed in prisonDec 18 20:34
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: Ok so today you wil make me a better avater? Thanks in advanceDec 18 20:46
FurnaceBoyi'll see if i can do it todayDec 18 20:48
schestowitzhttp://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=colour,color,humour,humor&year_start=1700&year_end=2008&corpus=0&smoothing=3Dec 18 20:57
TechrightsBot-scTitle: Google Labs - Books Ngram Viewer .::. Size~: 8.18 KBDec 18 20:57
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FurnaceBoyhttp://twitter.com/#!/buzzflash/status/16263040940908544Dec 18 22:51
TechrightsBot-sc@buzzflash: WikiLeaks Has the Goods on Bank of America, So Bank of America Helps to Try and Shut It Down http://bt.io/GTbJDec 18 22:51
TechrightsBot-sc-> Title: WikiLeaks Has the Goods on Bank of America, So Bank of America Helps to Try and Shut It Down | BuzzFlash.org .::. Size~: 25.21 KBDec 18 22:51
schestowitzdentedDec 18 23:05
schestowitzAnd I'll do another round shortly.. :-)Dec 18 23:05
Ender2070http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gilneas/burndown/simpleDec 18 23:13
TechrightsBot-scNot a web page! Aborting application/xhtml+xml;charset=UTF-8 typeDec 18 23:13
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: oh, yeah, i realised i'd need to deal with xhtml eventually.Dec 18 23:21
schestowitz_yeahDec 18 23:25
schestowitzhttp://www.technobuffalo.com/blog/social-networking/facebook-founder-mark-zuckerberg-doesnt-think-highly-of-his-users/Dec 18 23:25
TechrightsBot-scTitle:  Facebook Founder Mark Zuckerberg Doesn’t Think Highly Of His Users - TechnoBuffalo  .::. Size~: 29.05 KBDec 18 23:25
schestowitzI used the Assange story to draw attention to man of the yearDec 18 23:26
sebsebsebFurnaceBoy: doing anything more with avatar yet?Dec 18 23:33
Ender2070xhtml is standardDec 18 23:36
Ender2070hmm UTF-8 evenDec 18 23:36
Ender2070good stuffDec 18 23:36
Ender2070That`s my PaladinDec 18 23:37
schestowitzi played warcraft I&IIDec 18 23:58
schestowitzA lotDec 18 23:59
schestowitzFinished bothDec 18 23:59

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