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| schestowitz | Twitter going mainstream ruins it.. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=78779 | Dec 22 00:06 |
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| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter's new celebrity users : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 64.91 KB | Dec 22 00:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?entry_id=79084 | Dec 22 00:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Twitter ranks its most powerful tweets : The Technology Chronicles .::. Size~: 67.28 KB | Dec 22 00:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/17368117659303936 | Dec 22 00:08 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @schestowitz I like the tax, o | Dec 22 00:08 |
| schestowitz | re ]"@mgeist calling it iTax or "iPod tax" only serves as an advertisement to a company which promotes #DRM and excessive copyrights' | Dec 22 00:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I'm not aware of a path element 'statuses' | Dec 22 00:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it can easily be supported | Dec 22 00:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: lemme see | Dec 22 00:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12041234 | Dec 22 00:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Hackers steal English Defence League membership list .::. Size~: 55.29 KB | Dec 22 00:09 |
| schestowitz | I heard about this from a cop | Dec 22 00:09 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: no need for patch | Dec 22 00:10 |
| schestowitz | I can rewrite the URL | Dec 22 00:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i need to fix it anyway | Dec 22 00:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | but now for the first time in months, twitter is fail-whaling | Dec 22 00:11 |
| schestowitz | Not that I've seen it today | Dec 22 00:12 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it looks like 'statuses' works the same as 'status' | Dec 22 00:13 |
| *FurnaceBoy wonders idly if any of this is documented | Dec 22 00:14 | |
| FurnaceBoy | http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129296046123471&w=2 | Dec 22 00:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: 'Re: Allegations regarding OpenBSD IPSEC' - MARC .::. Size~: 7.98 KB | Dec 22 00:14 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11980125 | Dec 22 00:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BBC News - Amazon knocked offline by 'hardware failure' .::. Size~: 63.45 KB | Dec 22 00:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | lulz | Dec 22 00:17 |
| abeNd-org | is there some way to get to the actual server console/screen via vnc? not just a 5901 virtual window, but the actual one? | Dec 22 00:43 |
| FurnaceBoy | abeNd-org: which server? | Dec 22 00:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | abeNd-org: a physical server? or a virtual server? | Dec 22 00:47 |
| abeNd-org | sles10, the physical server | Dec 22 00:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | you'd need additional hardware | Dec 22 00:48 |
| abeNd-org | someone left something running on the server console itself & i need to get at it, i dont want to try to kill it since it wont preserve state | Dec 22 00:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | unless i'm misunderstanding you | Dec 22 00:48 |
| abeNd-org | eh? gotta be kidding me, linux doesnt allow remote control of the actual server console? its gotta :P | Dec 22 00:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | only via screen or similar | Dec 22 00:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | or, as i say, hardware | Dec 22 00:49 |
| FurnaceBoy | serial console or kvm | Dec 22 00:49 |
| abeNd-org | no ipkvm, no ILO card | Dec 22 00:49 |
| abeNd-org | otherwise id just use that | Dec 22 00:49 |
| abeNd-org | vnc allows you to view the physical screen on windows, or heck, even netware boxes, why not linux? | Dec 22 00:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | you'd need to have preconfigured it, same as on windows | Dec 22 00:50 |
| abeNd-org | it is a running service at the moment, and i can get to 5901 all i want | Dec 22 00:51 |
| abeNd-org | im seeing lots of 5901 faqs, nothing about actual physical console | Dec 22 00:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/17370629724438528 | Dec 22 00:59 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @rcweir @webmink @schestowitz but that's a #CONSPIRACY THEORY | Dec 22 00:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | what is? | Dec 22 01:01 |
| FurnaceBoy | Evolution? lolz | Dec 22 01:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=1195 | Dec 22 01:04 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Low Orbit Ion Cannon - Pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 28.79 KB | Dec 22 01:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/homembit/status/17382177712898049 | Dec 22 01:07 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @homembit: @schestowitz have you read the latest Groklaw news (Novell and OOXML) ??? | Dec 22 01:07 |
| schestowitz | ok, it's late here and meeting tomorrow... gn | Dec 22 01:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | nite | Dec 22 01:22 |
| Ender2070 | :D | Dec 22 02:21 |
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| schestowitz | Just got another translation... | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Dr. Roy, | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > #Man I have such a trouble trying to send you this since the morning. | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > Finally I did it at 5:00 but at 20:50 I learned that it didn't go | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > through. Maybe AOL sniffing my account 'cause the attachement name? | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > #There was a storm that subsided a little while ago. I hope you receive | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > this one. Please let me know, I think I'm going to use my | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > elwanka@gmail.com account. Please do not block it thinking I'm one of | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > the #mercenaries. I'm your friend. | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > #I have my niece on Sao Paolo ready to go to University. That's why this | Dec 22 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > news pissed me off not only for her but for all the brazilian kids. | Dec 22 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > My message for the Brazilian people: | Dec 22 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 22 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > #I'm still working on the formatting of the Comes exhibit. Please let me | Dec 22 06:29 |
| schestowitz | > know if you get this one otherwise I'll send it again | Dec 22 06:29 |
| schestowitz | I can't say how grateful I am. | Dec 22 06:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ilyaissue/status/17386503311200257 | Dec 22 06:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ilyaissue: “@schestowitz: ♻ @laurelrusswurm I would have bought Time Magazine for the cool #Assange cover, but I'll not (cont) http://tl.gd/7kl9gq | Dec 22 06:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: TwitLonger: “@schestowitz: ♻ @laurelrusswurm I would have bought Time Magazine for the cool #Assange cover, .::. Size~: 9.47 KB | Dec 22 06:43 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: https://twitter.com/FakeFantino/status/17434426984112128 | Dec 22 06:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FakeFantino: @schestowitz @mpjulianfantino @fantinocampaign @julianfantino it's go time. | Dec 22 06:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/17459947906269184 | Dec 22 06:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FOSSpatents: @FFII cc: @schestowitz Open standards lawyer Updegrove on #EIF: EC takes 1 step forward, 2 steps back in openness http://bit.ly/fcORID Spin? | Dec 22 06:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: EC Takes One Step Forward, Two Steps Back in Openness - ConsortiumInfo.org .::. Size~: 48.15 KB | Dec 22 06:44 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Hungarian parliament passes controversial law to oversee media | Dec 22 07:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,6362238,00.html?maca=en-TWITTER-EN-2004-xml-mrss | Dec 22 07:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Hungarian parliament passes controversial law to oversee media | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 21.12.2010 .::. Size~: 36.7 KB | Dec 22 07:37 |
| schestowitz | OrBan | Dec 22 07:37 |
| schestowitz | Block OrBan those sites | Dec 22 07:37 |
| MinceR | like i said, it's good to finally see some international news coverage of what the nazis are doing here | Dec 22 07:38 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60859598 | Dec 22 07:41 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Dec-10 07:37:39 UTC - Identi.ca: Kick OrBan. #hungary #fascism | Dec 22 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks still has like 98% to release | Dec 22 07:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dk9iOxL4C0u8&session_token=ohJv6Y2CU0e-XXT94GCmyf_M8Vl8MTI5MzA5MTkzOA%3D%3D | Dec 22 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. .::. Size~: 16.8 KB | Dec 22 08:18 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60863695 | Dec 22 10:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Aurel Winkelmann (geisterhund)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Dec-10 09:33:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @gbraad read on #getsatisfaction that it should be already possible 2 connct !diaspora w/ #statusnet -but didnt figure out how. | Dec 22 10:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FFII/status/17528538756284416 | Dec 22 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FFII: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz You don't see anyone who dissents with Updegrove's #EIF analysis | Dec 22 13:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FFII/status/17528862346838016 | Dec 22 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FFII: @fosspatents @schestowitz "appears that the EC has decided to abandon the leadership position... for setting the bar on standards" #EIF | Dec 22 13:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FFII/status/17529560983666689 | Dec 22 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FFII: @fosspatents @schestowitz Our message "Meanwhile India steals the show from Commissioner Maroš Šefčovič" http://bit.ly/eKSJsR | Dec 22 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: EU interoperability enforcement attempts to catch up with Asia - Press releases .::. Size~: 15.94 KB | Dec 22 13:45 |
| schestowitz | "@ruiseabra] @jwildeboer: So they will thin out resources between symbian, meego an winPhail7? Or will one of them die? Civil war already exists in symb" | Dec 22 14:02 |
| MinceR | if nokia goes kin7 then elop will really kill nokia after all | Dec 22 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 22 14:06 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: that would be betraying Qt unless in the process Qt is allowed onto windows phone 7 | Dec 22 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it'll become a subsidiary :0/ | Dec 22 14:06 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: vista phony 7 is dead | Dec 22 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Numbers are out | Dec 22 14:06 |
| schestowitz | It's in the toilet | Dec 22 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Channel-stuffed just 1.5m | Dec 22 14:07 |
| MinceR | i doubt Qt would be able to ensure compatibility between kin7 and the other nokia platforms | Dec 22 14:07 |
| MinceR | since .NET/silverlie can't run native code and doesn't support real C++ | Dec 22 14:07 |
| MinceR | only fake C++ | Dec 22 14:08 |
| oiaohm | Really if you look close windows phone 7 does not contain silverlight. | Dec 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | and kin7 crApps wouldn't use Qt as a GUI toolkit either | Dec 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | afaik officially it's based on silverlie | Dec 22 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Instead just contains XNA with codec extentions. | Dec 22 14:10 |
| MinceR | then again it could be just an attempt to plaster the brand in yet another place | Dec 22 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Really the silverlight web based stuff is missing. | Dec 22 14:11 |
| oiaohm | All of it. | Dec 22 14:11 |
| oiaohm | It XNA being rebanded as silverlight | Dec 22 14:11 |
| MinceR | did they do that rebranding elsewhere too? (like on suxbox) | Dec 22 14:12 |
| MinceR | hm, this makes silverlie deader than it seemed | Dec 22 14:12 |
| oiaohm | On windows silverlight is still a webbased interface. | Dec 22 14:13 |
| oiaohm | That basically no body users. | Dec 22 14:13 |
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| MinceR | isn't it just that on winblows the silverlie applet is embedded in a web page like Trash, while on a kin7 phone it runs on full screen? | Dec 22 14:15 |
| MinceR | (excepting whatever always visible elements they have) | Dec 22 14:15 |
| MinceR | (so more like maximized, i guess) | Dec 22 14:15 |
| MinceR | iirc Trash Lite was something like that too | Dec 22 14:16 |
| MinceR | (standalone apps instead of embedded in web) | Dec 22 14:16 |
| schestowitz | "#quotes: "What Justice means...JUST US!!!"--Gerald Celente" | Dec 22 14:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 22 14:17 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: Read the examples. | Dec 22 14:25 |
| oiaohm | of how to code for Windows Phone 7 | Dec 22 14:25 |
| oiaohm | the silverlight example is nothing like a normal silverlight web app. | Dec 22 14:25 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 22 14:25 |
| oiaohm | Basically brand washing. | Dec 22 14:26 |
| oiaohm | Bit like Seven washing | Dec 22 14:26 |
| oiaohm | But even more confusing. | Dec 22 14:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/14/milwaukee-woman-received-unwanted-delivery-naked-mailman/ | Dec 22 14:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Naked Mailman Reportedly Made Unwanted Delivery to Milwaukee Woman - FoxNews.com .::. Size~: 79.43 KB | Dec 22 14:31 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.unhosted.org/ interesting idea. | Dec 22 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: UNHOSTED - Freedom from web 2.0's monopoly platforms .::. Size~: 7.13 KB | Dec 22 14:40 |
| schestowitz | "@richslxh] @rms "One reason you should not use web applications to do your computing is that you lose control" Ok using Paypal to sign up to FSF though" | Dec 22 14:51 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: seen it | Dec 22 14:51 |
| MinceR | usually it would hurt the user, not FSF | Dec 22 15:06 |
| MinceR | until paypal decides to keep the money | Dec 22 15:06 |
| MinceR | (which seems to be the core of their business model) | Dec 22 15:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: when unhosted gets more stable I will mess with it. | Dec 22 15:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it'll bwe trouble when RMS is labeled "raping terrorist" | Dec 22 15:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 22 15:36 |
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| FurnaceBoy | well, it's a bogus analogy anyway | Dec 22 15:50 |
| MinceR | well, yes | Dec 22 15:51 |
| MinceR | using a web interface to access a non-computing service is not "using a web application to do your computing" | Dec 22 15:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | right. | Dec 22 15:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | he might as well say "but it's okay to use online banking, eh, rms" | Dec 22 15:52 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Dec 22 15:52 | |
| FurnaceBoy | or view a news site | Dec 22 15:52 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs x 2 | Dec 22 15:52 | |
| MinceR | funny, sometimes online banking isn't even web-based :> | Dec 22 15:52 |
| schestowitz | he does not | Dec 22 15:52 |
| schestowitz | He sometimes uses epiphany iirc | Dec 22 15:52 |
| MinceR | my bank used to have a java-based interface | Dec 22 15:52 |
| MinceR | it was a lot faster than the current web-based one, too | Dec 22 15:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: right, they vary from good to woeful | Dec 22 15:52 |
| schestowitz | But he mostly uses a remote server for browsing | Dec 22 15:52 |
| schestowitz | He's not much of a hypocrite actually | Dec 22 15:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | I use two good ones and one terrible one | Dec 22 15:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | the biggest bank by far has the worst one | Dec 22 15:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | there are even spelling errors in the messages | Dec 22 15:53 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 22 15:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's one of the largest banks in the world, if not the largest | Dec 22 15:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | makes you wonder what other parts of the olb were outsourced and not tested | Dec 22 15:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 22 15:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | but yeah, good example of a cheap shot against rms | Dec 22 15:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | there are quite a few | Dec 22 15:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's neat because it purports to attack his principles | Dec 22 15:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | "oh, look, we can't take you seriously because you're a hypocrite" | Dec 22 15:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | same thing ppl are doing with JA right now | Dec 22 15:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | for example, | Dec 22 15:57 |
| FurnaceBoy | "why do they want every government secret exposed when we aren't supposed to know everything about JA" etc | Dec 22 15:58 |
| MinceR | even if it was true, it would be an argumentum ad hominem tu quoque :> | Dec 22 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Assange!=govt. | Dec 22 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Cable!=love life of officials | Dec 22 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Likewise some trolls say techrights deserves flame for criticising Microsoft | Dec 22 16:07 |
| schestowitz | One-VM site != MSFT (NYSE) | Dec 22 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Spinmeisters to shut up small critics | Dec 22 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Like the "pirate" on the small ship whining about 1000 boats attacking his country and saying that's not "piracy" | Dec 22 16:08 |
| schestowitz | http://cryptome.org/0003/ddb-denial.htm *LOL* | Dec 22 16:09 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Daniel Domscheit-Berg Denies Rumor of Assange-Israeli Deals .::. Size~: 3.2 KB | Dec 22 16:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: unlawful combatants | Dec 22 16:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Hey, you're not ALLOWED to shoot at us. All we did was invade your country and kill a few 100,000" | Dec 22 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Daniel Eran Dilger still anti-Linux... http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/12/20/motorolas-history-of-tablets-shows-remarkable-ignorance/ | Dec 22 16:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Motorola’s history of tablets shows remarkable ignorance — RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 36.68 KB | Dec 22 16:10 |
| schestowitz | "Oh, nmy precious Apple" | Dec 22 16:10 |
| schestowitz | "Leave Apple alllone, Android" | Dec 22 16:11 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: enemy combatant even at age 15 | Dec 22 16:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | khadr, yes. | Dec 22 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Whose family gets slaughtered from high above | Dec 22 16:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but "unlawful" | Dec 22 16:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's illegal to kill an occupying soldier, did you kow? | Dec 22 16:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | know* | Dec 22 16:11 |
| schestowitz | "Only *we* we use guns" | Dec 22 16:11 |
| schestowitz | And F16s | Dec 22 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Dec 22 16:12 |
| schestowitz | "We're the good guys" | Dec 22 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | "you're a bad guy by definition, because you're not us" | Dec 22 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 22 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | "no need for a trial" | Dec 22 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Shows impact of media control | Dec 22 16:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | "we can start the punishment right away" | Dec 22 16:12 |
| schestowitz | Darn | Dec 22 16:13 |
| schestowitz | I should do more to promote wend of wars... | Dec 22 16:13 |
| schestowitz | But political blogging gets you into trollzone | Dec 22 16:13 |
| schestowitz | s/wend/end/ | Dec 22 16:13 |
| schestowitz | I blame *you* for daring me into it | Dec 22 16:14 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Dec 22 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Exclusive: How BP Drafted Brussels' Climate Legislation | Dec 22 16:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.spinwatch.org.uk/-articles-by-category-mainmenu-8/63-european-politics/5415-exclusive-how-bp-drafted-brussels-climate-legislation- | Dec 22 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: .::. Size~: 0.16 KB | Dec 22 16:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: lol. | Dec 22 16:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thestar.com/article/910306--police-officer-charged-in-g20-beating?bn=1 | Dec 22 16:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Police officer charged in G20 beating - thestar.com .::. Size~: 83.98 KB | Dec 22 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Also see my dent about Mr. Nobody (3 links) | Dec 22 16:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/TLW3/status/17614170618859520 | Dec 22 16:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @TLW3: Fox News Chyron Identifies Elie Wiesel As “Holocaust Winner” http://goo.gl/K29DA #p2 #p21 #dems #tcot #wc #tlot #tpp #tpp #ocra #sgp | Dec 22 16:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Fox News Chyron Identifies Elie Wiesel As “Holocaust Winner” .::. Size~: 37.99 KB | Dec 22 16:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | bizarre | Dec 22 16:21 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 22 16:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://twitter.com/#!/Poet_Carl_Watts/status/17615064269852673 | Dec 22 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Poet_Carl_Watts: WikiLeaks exposes Pope as supporter of GMOs http://t.co/JM2h6oA via @HealthRanger #KnowledgeIsPower! (population control?) | Dec 22 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: WikiLeaks exposes Pope as supporter of GMOs .::. Size~: 43.61 KB | Dec 22 16:22 |
| MinceR | Holocaust, The Game Show | Dec 22 16:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | your host, Famous HIstorian Sarah Palin | Dec 22 16:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 22 16:22 |
| MinceR | hm, "food security" | Dec 22 16:24 |
| *MinceR wonders where he put his private keys for his food | Dec 22 16:24 | |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the footnotes here are interesting. http://www.thecornerhouse.org.uk/resource/bae-pleads-guilty-minor-accounting-offence-tanzania-radar-scandal | Dec 22 16:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: BAE pleads guilty to minor accounting offence in Tanzania radar scandal | The Corner House .::. Size~: 38.65 KB | Dec 22 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Oh, a month old already... | Dec 22 16:32 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I lack the time to, but one thing I wanted to do a book about Novell | Dec 22 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Now that it's dead a book about the Downfall of Novell might be worthwhile.... | Dec 22 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Maybe if I find the time or something, to summarise the past 4+ years | Dec 22 16:33 |
| MinceR | for a moment i was thinking "Downfall with Novell subtitles" | Dec 22 16:33 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: that too | Dec 22 16:33 |
| schestowitz | "Mein Führer, the guys with Red Hat are taking our biz" | Dec 22 16:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "NEIN NEIN NEIN" | Dec 22 16:34 |
| schestowitz | "@fabsh: Or GNU/Linux, before I get the Flaming Beards shout at me again.... ;)" | Dec 22 16:48 |
| FurnaceBoy | anyone here know how to add tags to slashdot stories? | Dec 22 16:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | i used to do it all the time, | Dec 22 16:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | but since they changed it with some JS shit, i've never been able to (several years now) | Dec 22 16:50 |
| FurnaceBoy | or is it just not possible any more? | Dec 22 16:50 |
| *FurnaceBoy smh | Dec 22 16:50 | |
| MinceR | not sure if it ever worked | Dec 22 16:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes, it did work. | Dec 22 16:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | i used to use it a lot. | Dec 22 16:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | but that was years ago. then they changed it | Dec 22 16:52 |
| MinceR | i used to use it, but never knew what effect it had | Dec 22 16:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | i literally have not been able to tag for like 3+ years. | Dec 22 16:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm presuming somebody is able to | Dec 22 16:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | but i have no idea how | Dec 22 16:52 |
| MinceR | probably the rulers of /. can, under the commands of their corporate overlords | Dec 22 16:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | ohhh well | Dec 22 16:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | i am not currently a subscriber | Dec 22 16:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | maybe that's it | Dec 22 16:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | but | Dec 22 16:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 22 16:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | even when I *was* I couldn't do it. | Dec 22 16:53 |
| *MinceR never was | Dec 22 16:53 | |
| schestowitz | "@richslxh: @fabsh Gnu + Linux + neckbeard :P" | Dec 22 16:57 |
| schestowitz | [IMG] http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/no-facebook-me.png | Dec 22 17:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 22 17:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 22 17:03 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/22/mark-zuckerburg-facebook-newark | Dec 22 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Mark Zuckerberg's philanthropy is reason enough to applaud him | Arianna Huffington | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 234.15 KB | Dec 22 17:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: one hand washes the other | Dec 22 18:04 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/20/uk-snow-global-warming | Dec 22 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: That snow outside is what global warming looks like | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 239.11 KB | Dec 22 18:13 |
| *sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Dec 22 18:37 | |
| sebsebseb | Hi | Dec 22 18:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | hi | Dec 22 18:38 |
| sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy: hi | Dec 22 18:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://scripting.com/stories/2010/12/22/assangeRapeCharges.html | Dec 22 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Scripting News: Assange's rape charges (grabbing the third rail) .::. Size~: 24.35 KB | Dec 22 18:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://groups.google.com/group/tiraniaorg-blog-comments/msg/57a3560ebfed98a4 | Dec 22 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: I tell you how does this look - tirania.org blog comments. | Google Groups .::. Size~: 38.17 KB | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | "I do not blame them. OOXML is a superb standard and yet, it has been | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | FUDed so badly by its competitors that serious people believe that | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | there is something fundamentally wrong with it. This is at a time when | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | OOXML as a spec is in much better shape than any other spec on that | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | space. | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | * What about microsoft patents? If I create my own linux distro or I | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | > use a distro that is not mainstream or just doesn't have a deal with | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | > the daemon.. err Microsoft.. like Novell has.. Will I have to suffer | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | > the shadow of Microsoft patents over Silverlight when using or | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | > developing Moonlight? | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | Not as long as you get/download Moonlight from Novell which will include | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | patent | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | coverage. | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | Miguel | Dec 22 18:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://ur1.ca/2na5i | Dec 22 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wikileaks: All 250,000 cables reported leaked in Norway - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 30.45 KB | Dec 22 19:03 |
| schestowitz | [17:47] <TechrightsBot-sc> Title: Mark Zuckerberg's philanthropy is reason enough to applaud him | Arianna Huffington | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 234.15 | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Argh.... | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | They steal and give back [a ... little] | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | So that they can carry on stealing more | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | In general BTW | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily MarkZ | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | He 'pulls a Rockefeller' | Dec 22 19:27 |
| schestowitz | But teenagers are too dumb to learn from history, the Gates-run schools won't help them learn history, either | Dec 22 19:28 |
| FurnaceBoy | what scares me though is how predictable it is | Dec 22 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | even the headline is a careful trick | Dec 22 19:30 |
| schestowitz | [18:51] <FurnaceBoy> "I do not blame them. OOXML is a superb standard and yet, it has been | Dec 22 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | see the subtext? | Dec 22 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I'm tempted to start writing a book about it | Dec 22 19:30 |
| FurnaceBoy | "Don't look at anything ELSE Fuckerberg does." | Dec 22 19:31 |
| FurnaceBoy | is the subtext of the headline. | Dec 22 19:31 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't seem like many people will generally read books in the future, so I always avoid the medium | Dec 22 19:31 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yes, I gathered it | Dec 22 19:33 |
| schestowitz | "Forget my hunsband pollutes the Earth,helps flood islands whatever..." | Dec 22 19:33 |
| schestowitz | It works in reverse too | Dec 22 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ForgetAssange's work on Kenya | Dec 22 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Julian's 'rape' is reason enough to ostracise him | Dec 22 19:34 |
| schestowitz | ^twist | Dec 22 19:34 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: what *else* has this whitewasher been up to? | Dec 22 19:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeTheInternet/status/17640600090181632 | Dec 22 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FreeTheInternet: RT @schestowitz European Blog Action against Censorship in #Hungary http://is.gd/jePXF Will it be time ... http://bit.ly/hVHWO1 #FreeWeb | Dec 22 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: bloggingportal.eu Blog & Support » Blog Archive » European Blog Action against Censorship in Hungary .::. Size~: 26.42 KB | Dec 22 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Twitter / Dr. Roy Schestowitz: European Blog Action again ... .::. Size~: 13.05 KB | Dec 22 19:34 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: u shd follow http://twitter.com/#!/codepinkalert/status/17664423065812992 | Dec 22 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @codepinkalert: "WikiLeaks perhaps the only group putting fear into the hearts of world’s most powerful and corrupt people..." http://bit.ly/gAOpqT | Dec 22 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: We Open Governments: WikiLeaks for Beginners (Part 1 of 3) .::. Size~: 51.88 KB | Dec 22 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Added, redented | Dec 22 19:39 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/codepinkalert/status/17661394023350272 | Dec 22 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @codepinkalert: 'Israeli War Crimes, Your Tax Dollars at Work' signs to go on Seattle buses on Dec 27th http://bit.ly/ffUIGB Thoughts? Tag RTs #warcrimes | Dec 22 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: YouTube - 'Israeli War Crimes' signs to go on Metro buses DEC 27 2010 AD .::. Size~: 143.5 KB | Dec 22 19:40 |
| schestowitz | /war crimes/reactive terrorism/ | Dec 22 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Good feed | Dec 22 19:40 |
| FurnaceBoy | ya | Dec 22 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I'll do some Linux news, then posts | Dec 22 19:51 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/910678--mallick-remembering-a-very-good-iraqi-girl | Dec 22 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Mallick: Remembering a ‘very good’ Iraqi girl - thestar.com .::. Size~: 93.14 KB | Dec 22 20:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not an easy read. | Dec 22 20:02 |
| schestowitz | "(Editor's Note: It has passed 3 - 2, with the two Republicans being opposed to Internet regulation. Critics of the regulation predict the new incoming Republican majority Congress will try and fight this as well.)" | Dec 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Stupid GOP | Dec 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Killing -9 the internet | Dec 22 20:06 |
| MinceR | if the "democrats" leave something for them to kill -9, that is | Dec 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | See my lastest dent | Dec 22 20:10 |
| schestowitz | *latest | Dec 22 20:11 |
| MinceR | that's wrong too | Dec 22 20:16 |
| schestowitz | It's simplistic | Dec 22 20:16 |
| MinceR | both the "democrats" and the "republicans" are the voice of the megacorps | Dec 22 20:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes | Dec 22 20:16 |
| schestowitz | GOP is more pro-irregulation [sic] | Dec 22 20:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | and worse | Dec 22 20:17 |
| schestowitz | deregulation | Dec 22 20:17 |
| schestowitz | Irregular makes them sound like klutzes | Dec 22 20:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/12/22/lind_wikileaks | Dec 22 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Yes, Julian Assange actually is a criminal - WikiLeaks - Salon.com .::. Size~: 148.8 KB | Dec 22 20:17 |
| schestowitz | The corporats and the repugnicants don't serve people | Dec 22 20:18 |
| schestowitz | But people like Kucinich can't attract corporate investment] | Dec 22 20:18 |
| schestowitz | The election is a PR contest | Dec 22 20:18 |
| MinceR | if they weren't klutzes, they'd be leading the megacorps, not the puppet parties | Dec 22 20:18 |
| schestowitz | Waged between two camps with budget which usually comes from the same companies | Dec 22 20:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's where the money is | Dec 22 20:18 |
| MinceR | religion? | Dec 22 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Or Ban | Dec 22 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | http://www.salon.com/news/pakistan/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/12/21/nyt | Dec 22 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: The NYT spills key military secrets on its front page - Pakistan - Salon.com .::. Size~: 136.91 KB | Dec 22 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | birth | Dec 22 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | the best way to have influence, power and money in the USA is accidental birth. | Dec 22 20:19 |
| FurnaceBoy | exactly the same way the systems they are supposed to despise work -- monarchies, feudalism | Dec 22 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | or, dynastic marriage of course... | Dec 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | marring bank accounts works for women | Dec 22 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | the Bush family is de facto royalty, for example. | Dec 22 20:20 |
| FurnaceBoy | they even have the traditional retarded members | Dec 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Men with wealth may marry poor women who are younger and sexy | Dec 22 20:20 |
| schestowitz | But rich women look for matching funds | Dec 22 20:20 |
| MinceR | here gyurcsany (the PM before the previous one) married into a powerful commie family, for example | Dec 22 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | i tend to look more closely at the rich women in the US. Esther Dyson, Whitman, Huffington. Their positions tell you a great deal. | Dec 22 20:21 |
| FurnaceBoy | Fiorina | Dec 22 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Oprah | Dec 22 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. it's the automatic succession | Dec 22 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: YES! | Dec 22 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: watch the powerful + rich women closely and you see a pattern | Dec 22 20:22 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i've been watching them for a while | Dec 22 20:22 |
| schestowitz | There are more women than men | Dec 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | And they are consumers of some products more than men are | Dec 22 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | and it fits with that principle of PR we identify | Dec 22 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | "use the woman to deliver the message" -- Clinton, Palin, yadda yadda | Dec 22 20:23 |
| FurnaceBoy | Melinda | Dec 22 20:23 |
| schestowitz | Of course | Dec 22 20:24 |
| schestowitz | No backlash | Dec 22 20:24 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: read that last Salon link. | Dec 22 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Backlash is sexism | Dec 22 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Barbarism | Dec 22 20:24 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I did... | Dec 22 20:24 |
| schestowitz | But not closely | Dec 22 20:24 |
| schestowitz | I added the headline onlu | Dec 22 20:25 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I'm in a hurry today | Dec 22 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Had many meetings, now catching up w/ Linux news | Dec 22 20:26 |
| schestowitz | then I want to do some posts, did not thus far | Dec 22 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks has been exhiasting | Dec 22 20:27 |
| schestowitz | But useful | Dec 22 20:27 |
| schestowitz | For me to explain the value of what TR does | Dec 22 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Like Wikipedia helps us all explain Free software | Dec 22 20:27 |
| schestowitz | As collaboration/ sharing mindset/quality | Dec 22 20:28 |
| schestowitz | just got "Have a wonderful Christmas !  http://is.gd/jfqLF " | Dec 22 20:31 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - My Blackberry Is Not Working! - The One Ronnie, Preview - BBC One .::. Size~: 132.09 KB | Dec 22 20:31 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60892265 | Dec 22 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Stéphane Marguet (stemp)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Dec-10 20:15:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Why ? Is Apple going to sell OSX to other manufacturers ? | Dec 22 20:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i took a point out of the Salon article and just tweeted it. | Dec 22 20:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: as in, the NYT printed CURRENT, classified info, but IT'S OKAY because it serves PRO-WAR agenda. | Dec 22 20:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | u see why i don't ever take the nyt seriously? | Dec 22 20:35 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: https://twitter.com/ghostdansing/status/17673936808443904 | Dec 22 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ghostdansing: .@schestowitz: If #GOP sweeps half of the popular vote || Means Half the Electorate Actually Buys #GOP Bullshit despite corporatist agenda | Dec 22 20:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | and why WL won't use them as a partner | Dec 22 20:35 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: they didn't? | Dec 22 20:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but that already happened. | Dec 22 20:35 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: THEY DIDN'T. | Dec 22 20:35 |
| schestowitz | See, that's the confusing bit to me | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I've told you that before! | Dec 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | I know they didn't | Dec 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | You told me | Dec 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | But some of the press gave a different impression | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | YES! | Dec 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | And it got parotted | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | they are constantly giving the other impression | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | YES! | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | that's exactly what happened. | Dec 22 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Giving credence to nyt | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | but to me, it's an important detail. | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | making them 'appear' as credible as the guardian, der spiegel, etc. | Dec 22 20:36 |
| FurnaceBoy | they'll print a few harmless cables | Dec 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | IIRC in WW2 the NYT avoided showing convoys to death camps | Dec 22 20:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | and ppl will believe | Dec 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Now they do the same to Palestinians | Dec 22 20:37 |
| FurnaceBoy | and iraqis. | Dec 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | For opposite reasons, though | Dec 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Ahslee Vancy is quitting NYC | Dec 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Ashlee goes to Bl00mb0rg | Dec 22 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Michael | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | " philanthropy is reason enough to applaud him" | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | "Pledge" | Dec 22 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | LOL | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | "I promise" | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | [later] | Dec 22 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | A broken society breeds philanthropy | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Dec 22 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | it's an american tradition, all the plutocrats did it. | Dec 22 20:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | STEAL THEN GIVE A LITTLE AWAY | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | I just had an argument about it ehre | Dec 22 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Some people view phila' not as a fix | Dec 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Or a hoax | Dec 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Like people who beg for scholarship to get permit to go to work | Dec 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | aka grant | Dec 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | This is designed to make people grateful and slaves to those who abuse them | Dec 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | A lot of cowardly politicians are the same | Dec 22 20:39 |
| schestowitz | They won't tell off particular people who can offer them money and power | Dec 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | The dependence in this system suffocates t | Dec 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | *it | Dec 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stempfr/status/17674529719451648 | Dec 22 20:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @stempfr: @schestowitz Why ? Is Apple going to sell OSX to other manufacturers ? | Dec 22 20:40 |
| schestowitz | brb | Dec 22 20:41 |
| MinceR | whale fail | Dec 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | brb coffee | Dec 22 20:41 |
| schestowitz | night boost :-) | Dec 22 20:41 |
| MinceR | actually openwindows does exist :> | Dec 22 20:42 |
| MinceR | it was a DE by sun | Dec 22 20:42 |
| schestowitz | oh yeah.. | Dec 22 20:45 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/#!/codepinkalert/status/17661394023350272 | Dec 22 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @codepinkalert: 'Israeli War Crimes, Your Tax Dollars at Work' signs to go on Seattle buses on Dec 27th http://bit.ly/ffUIGB Thoughts? Tag RTs #warcrimes | Dec 22 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: YouTube - 'Israeli War Crimes' signs to go on Metro buses DEC 27 2010 AD .::. Size~: 139.53 KB | Dec 22 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Ah :-) | Dec 22 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Wait for people to get all confused and *choose* to be offended | Dec 22 20:52 |
| schestowitz | codepink is a good feed it would seem | Dec 22 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Imagine a bug in London (like atheist bus) bearing words about Bush's war crime | Dec 22 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Would it be controversial? | Dec 22 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Would English-speaking Brits be offended? | Dec 22 20:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Dec 22 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: probably not so much. | Dec 22 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i'm amazed they can get anti-zionist messages out in public in US. | Dec 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause they are not taught that way | Dec 22 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | right, we're talking at least 3 generations of full on hard core indoctrination, in US. | Dec 22 20:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | i've met the products. | Dec 22 20:55 |
| schestowitz | But the thing is, people of Semitic decent confuse many things like state of Israel, a government, people of Israel, Judaism, Semitism, Hebrew, etc. | Dec 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Many are wrongly implied | Dec 22 20:56 |
| FurnaceBoy | yes. | Dec 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | In Islam too | Dec 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Arab and Mulsin for example | Dec 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Many Arabs are CHristian | Dec 22 20:56 |
| schestowitz | And some choose to be offended for wrong reasons and use that for censorship | Dec 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't like that | Dec 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | I see news about people getting gagged and having free speech withdrawn, then agitated until an excuse is found to jail/fine them | Dec 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Free speech with traps is not free speech | Dec 22 20:57 |
| schestowitz | And it can only lead to more violence through repression and assumption of privilege of respect | Dec 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | If you act improperly, expect tough words. Simple. | Dec 22 20:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | the right is always trying to change the rules | Dec 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | /s/decent/descent/ | Dec 22 20:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | you can find this rhetoric in most of their statements. | Dec 22 20:58 |
| schestowitz | It's all like this in politics | Dec 22 20:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | their line of attack is "You shouldn't be *allowed* to say that." instead of attacking substance. | Dec 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Depending where you are | Dec 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | I think the class and religion aspects lose here | Dec 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | More people say 'blasphemous' things openly on the Web | Dec 22 20:59 |
| schestowitz | And to yell online at oppressors is fashionable, as it probably ought to be | Dec 22 21:00 |
| MinceR | just like the commies banning holocaust denial here in absurdistan | Dec 22 21:00 |
| MinceR | (but of course not the denial of the crimes the commies have committed) | Dec 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Why not correct them? | Dec 22 21:00 |
| MinceR | dunno | Dec 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | The evidence is not on their side, dont' gag them | Dec 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | It's like banning drugs | Dec 22 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Won't stop it, drives it undeground | Dec 22 21:00 |
| MinceR | i guess all the foaming at their mouth prevents them from disproving the holocaust deniers' claims | Dec 22 21:01 |
| MinceR | and now the nazis are getting their comeuppance by destroying what was left of freedom of speech and press | Dec 22 21:01 |
| MinceR | i guess it would all be fun to watch from abroad | Dec 22 21:01 |
| MinceR | how these millions of drooling idiots support these two fascist crime organizations attack each other and demolishing the country in the process | Dec 22 21:02 |
| schestowitz | They censor opposition to the government | Dec 22 21:02 |
| MinceR | s/ing// | Dec 22 21:02 |
| schestowitz | And to past events | Dec 22 21:02 |
| MinceR | i wonder what will come of orban getting to be president (or whatever) of the eu for half a year | Dec 22 21:03 |
| schestowitz | So the UK can get a taste of this hui | Dec 22 21:05 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the ubuntu font is interesting to typographers because it has been a test case for cooperation between old-school type foundries and a totally different open model | Dec 22 21:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: at first, there was a lot of tension between the two philosophies, one grounded in a 500-year-old tradition | Dec 22 21:07 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: so i think a lot of lessons have come out of it on both sides | Dec 22 21:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's not as simple as "design it, and we incorporate it"... it's been a cultural/social integration | Dec 22 21:08 |
| FurnaceBoy | i.e. Dalton Maag obviously had not had much exposure to free/open source digital culture at all. it was a shock. | Dec 22 21:09 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: fonts like codecs are a cultural thing | Dec 22 21:16 |
| schestowitz | You can capture arts with it, making it owned based on side elements | Dec 22 21:16 |
| schestowitz | Like book font or storage format for film/image/audio | Dec 22 21:16 |
| schestowitz | ARTISTS DON't think about such issues | Dec 22 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Bad CAPS... | Dec 22 21:17 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60894564 | Dec 22 21:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Chris (seraphyn)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Dec-10 21:06:06 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz: The Ubuntu font has been getting so much publicity. It's just another font, people. Red Hat has Liberty Fonts. #weirdHype | Dec 22 21:17 |
| MinceR | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL | Dec 22 21:18 |
| schestowitz | Mine is not all bd | Dec 22 21:18 |
| schestowitz | it has 'moods' | Dec 22 21:18 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, i was responding to that dent | Dec 22 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Ta | Dec 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I am coming back next month, I think permanently. Currently I consider | Dec 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | writing a book on a subject I've learned for the past 4 years. :-) | Dec 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I think I should come back to full-time IRC and TR | Dec 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I decided today | Dec 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Been one month exactly since Novell was sold | Dec 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | If I wait longer, 4+ years of tracking Novell will go down the drain as memory fades | Dec 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | So I think I should get back full time to the site | Dec 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Any thoughts? | Dec 22 21:58 |
| FurnaceBoy | well | Dec 22 22:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | yeah the novell thing is pretty important... | Dec 22 22:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6Ryf14nto | Dec 22 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - The Concept of God (is stupid) .::. Size~: 129.93 KB | Dec 22 22:11 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it's more than it to me cause I dedicated a lot of time to it | Dec 22 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Now I can write it better than most people can... but I'll think it through during xmas | Dec 22 22:12 |
| schestowitz | It'll be a sacrifice of time | Dec 22 22:12 |
| schestowitz | I want to stay in activism and the book can be part of it | Dec 22 22:12 |
| schestowitz | http://tinyogg.com/watch/wwsvF/ | Dec 22 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: My Blackberry Is Not Working! - The One Ronnie, Preview - BBC One .::. Size~: 5.47 KB | Dec 22 22:12 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/60897598 | Dec 22 22:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Sebastian (sebsebseb)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Dec-10 22:10:58 UTC - Identi.ca: I listened to !Techbytes Episode 17 last night, and now I have been !listening to Techbytes Episode 18 for awhile. :) | Dec 22 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 22 22:20 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: shame I got my can't play OGG or MP3 in a player issue again in PC Linux OS | Dec 22 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | its odd | Dec 22 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | installing lame fixed it last time | Dec 22 22:22 |
| sebsebseb | ,but thats still installed so odd, but playing the OGG from your site works :D | Dec 22 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Use Firefox | Dec 22 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It does playback within the Web browser | Dec 22 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Video too | Dec 22 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yep I am playing it in FIrefox at the moment | Dec 22 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | if I remember correctly if pauseing the thing like that, issue | Dec 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | No RESUME support on server | Dec 22 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Cache | Dec 22 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | yeah so playing from site is ok, as long as don't pause or lose it some how | Dec 22 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: why did it show my status in here? | Dec 22 22:29 |
| sebsebseb | also resume support for your server, could that be added? | Dec 22 22:30 |
| schestowitz | I think we tried | Dec 22 22:32 |
| schestowitz | The files come from proxy | Dec 22 22:32 |
| schestowitz | So I think that was tricky | Dec 22 22:32 |
| schestowitz | I really ought to just test some new mic | Dec 22 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Hard to test at shops... | Dec 22 22:32 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: huh? somebody's shocked that Assange accused US Of terrorism? | Dec 22 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: does it ever do anything ELSE? | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Dec 22 22:52 |
| *FurnaceBoy scratches head | Dec 22 22:52 | |
| schestowitz | He's not supposed to say it | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | It's shock treatment to mosty American | Dec 22 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | at this point it won't do much good | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | So he alienate some viewers | Dec 22 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's considered a tainted source anyway | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Gets labelled | Dec 22 22:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | exactly | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Not smart | Dec 22 22:52 |
| schestowitz | EVen if it's true | Dec 22 22:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | but anyway, it's obvious from the released material, starting with http://collateralmurder.com | Dec 22 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Collateral Murder .::. Size~: 6.76 KB | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes there are things you can pass innuendo | Dec 22 22:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | if people don't see that as terrorism, then they never will. | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | You don't say them | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | You dewscribe acts | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Let people draw their conclusions | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it's state-run terrorism | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Done in many countries though | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Not just the US | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | US is the big one, so easy target | Dec 22 22:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/17712318028709889 | Dec 22 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @schestowitz @maymaym LOL people have known this for years #Assange #terrorism | Dec 22 22:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: US has indulged in it since my father was born. | Dec 22 22:54 |
| MinceR | some interesting stuff about skype >> (pdf) http://www.secdev.org/conf/skype_BHEU06.handout.pdf | Dec 22 22:55 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | Dec 22 22:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: hm, testy fellow. don't think i 'll continue THAT dialogue.. | Dec 22 22:59 |
| FurnaceBoy | "precision in terminology is important" | Dec 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... | Dec 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, well... | Dec 22 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: depends on *which* people | Dec 22 23:02 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://rww.to/fMe116 | Dec 22 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found | Dec 22 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: http://rww.to/fMe1l6 | Dec 22 23:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Wikileaks' Leaks Leaked: Norwegian Paper Has All the Cables and None of the Restrictions .::. Size~: 49.81 KB | Dec 22 23:06 |
| FurnaceBoy | ^^ that's going to make life very interesting for them. | Dec 22 23:06 |
| schestowitz | As long as Clinton doesn't wet her diaper and and Flanagan (whatever) doesn't call for assassination | Dec 22 23:10 |
| sebsebseb | Anyone bought HumbleBundle? | Dec 22 23:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/17714188805738496 | Dec 22 23:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: .@schestowitz @maymaym That the US is constantly engaged in state #terror is already proven by http://collateralmurder.com via #wikileaks | Dec 22 23:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Collateral Murder .::. Size~: 6.76 KB | Dec 22 23:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/17714782090039296 | Dec 22 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @ender2070: @schestowitz good old #chromium did that when I was using #fedora 13 #Mozilla #Firefox is slllloooow | Dec 22 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: it's fast here | Dec 22 23:11 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: seen this yet? | Dec 22 23:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maymaym/status/17714897420812288 | Dec 22 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @maymaym: @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz No, that's a #war #crime. Precision in #terminology is crucial, especially now. Charges of ongoing #terrorism are new. | Dec 22 23:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/17714992077869056 | Dec 22 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @qu1j0t3: .@maymaym @schestowitz No, charges of state terror against US are not new, except to most Americans. | Dec 22 23:11 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yup | Dec 22 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Assange plays with fire | Dec 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Give ammo to Americans who are told Assange should be arrested or killed | Dec 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Now they can align him with Bin Laden | Dec 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | And the US public, as suggested by polls, is already well greased us vs Assange | Dec 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I see this when I speak to my cousins there | Dec 22 23:12 |
| schestowitz | They get brainwashed on the left and right | Dec 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Europe is a different story | Dec 22 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | right | Dec 22 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | however I understand why JA says it. even if it's bad politics. | Dec 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | He called them "terrorists" | Dec 22 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | he's right. | Dec 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Rmeember: | Dec 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | They can't tell apart people from govt | Dec 22 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | at a certain point one loses patience trying to dance around the limitations of American mentality. | Dec 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | So saying the US govt engages in terrorism insults the Texans with flags on thier cars | Dec 22 23:13 |
| schestowitz | *their | Dec 22 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | they had it coming. | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | But I don't care | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | That interveiw was irelevant | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I saw the first 5 minutes | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | It's about him | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Not the cables | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I want to just talk about cables | Dec 22 23:14 |
| schestowitz | They say what he did, by means of evidence | Dec 22 23:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | righ | Dec 22 23:15 |
| FurnaceBoy | t | Dec 22 23:15 |
| schestowitz | He should keep himself out of it | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | In techrights I don't put in my personal stories | Dec 22 23:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | well some people have said that | Dec 22 23:16 |
| FurnaceBoy | but it's not a fair criticism,, since he is being witch-hunted specifically. | Dec 22 23:16 |
| schestowitz | Keeping oneself out of it lets discussion focus on the body of work | Dec 22 23:17 |
| FurnaceBoy | how can he keep himself out of it when he's under individual persecution?? | Dec 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | And he defends himself by saying what's used as smears against him | Dec 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | He should focus on what's shown there | Dec 22 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Offensive, not defensive | Dec 22 23:17 |
| MinceR | http://redd.it/epro8 | Dec 22 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting type | Dec 22 23:25 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: my example from this week was somebody who said the CHilean mine rescue moved him because it shows the grace and mercy of God, or somesuch. | Dec 22 23:27 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 22 23:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | MinceR: easy to miss the 'human ingenuity' part thar... | Dec 22 23:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | and also they missed a few disasters here and there... | Dec 22 23:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | Haitian earthquake, Pakistan floods, etc ad infinitum | Dec 22 23:27 |
| FurnaceBoy | what do THESE tell us? | Dec 22 23:27 |
| *FurnaceBoy sighs | Dec 22 23:28 | |
| schestowitz | It's like those earthquake story where you look for surviving child | Dec 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | or plane crashes | Dec 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | For newspaper to preach their religious propaganda | Dec 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | "It's a miracle" | Dec 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Look at this child!!!! | Dec 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | [just ignore the rest of the kids, who all died] | Dec 22 23:30 |
| schestowitz | It's a MIRACLE | Dec 22 23:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FFII/status/17723184576991232 | Dec 22 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @FFII: @FOSSpatents @schestowitz No, http://www.digistan.org/open-standard:definition but we know for 3 years that the EC wants FOSS compatible | Dec 22 23:34 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Digital Standards Organization .::. Size~: 18.79 KB | Dec 22 23:34 |
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