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| sebsebseb | Hi | Dec 28 01:17 |
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| schestowitz | Hello | Dec 28 06:15 |
| oiaohm | Hi | Dec 28 06:16 |
| oiaohm | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/12/putin-orders-russian-move-to-gnulinux.html Nice event. | Dec 28 06:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: open...: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux .::. Size~: 99.6 KB | Dec 28 06:16 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 28 06:23 |
| schestowitz | I got retweeted on it over a dozen times :) | Dec 28 06:24 |
| oiaohm | Question do you have a country list anywhere with countries planing or doing this. | Dec 28 06:31 |
| oiaohm | Because this is kinda the fall of Microsoft in progress. | Dec 28 06:32 |
| oiaohm | Ie business have to deal with goverment so have to be compadible with what ever goverment is using. | Dec 28 06:32 |
| schestowitz | In south America there are several | Dec 28 06:39 |
| schestowitz | Vietnam keeps talking about it too | Dec 28 06:39 |
| schestowitz | It's like a coke machine | Dec 28 06:39 |
| schestowitz | Rock is back and forth a bit | Dec 28 06:39 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft can prevent it from falling over a few times, but eventually it'll happen | Dec 28 06:39 |
| schestowitz | I wonder hot Putin views this in the context of Wikileaks with the Chinese getting access to source and the govt. using Windows for control over other contries. | Dec 28 06:40 |
| schestowitz | *counries | Dec 28 06:40 |
| schestowitz | India speaks about making its own new OS | Dec 28 06:41 |
| oiaohm | Really sane person would work out with Linux you don't have to make a new OS | Dec 28 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Just run you own repo with the files you have audited in it. | Dec 28 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Same with Freebsd and others. | Dec 28 06:51 |
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| MinceR | http://phuzion.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/79/79db803c77084fee0abce33c36f3de475357a695.png | Dec 28 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Dec 28 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Tax increases here: | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > Hope you had a great Christmas and are busy making lots of new year’s | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > resolutions. We just wanted to let you know about two things that are | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > happening in 2011 at catalyst2. | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > 1 ) From January 4th 2011, VAT in the UK will increase from the current | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > 17.5% to 20%. Any invoices we generate from that date will therefore | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > reflect the new VAT rate. For more information, click here: | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/forms-rates/rates/rate-increase.htm | Dec 28 12:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: HM Revenue & Customs: Increase in the standard rate of VAT to 20 per cent .::. Size~: 22.01 KB | Dec 28 12:11 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, but India said Linux was "bugged" | Dec 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz | As in tempered wth | Dec 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Although they can inspect the source code | Dec 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but they like boys,not girls | Dec 28 12:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm consolidating all my domains today | Dec 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | 6 of them | Dec 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | > I currently have 3 account for 3 domains | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > iuroncom for iuron.com | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > othello for othellomaster.com | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > schestow for schestowitz.com | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > Each has a different corresponding mail account (2 under | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > @schestowitz.com and 1 under @isbe.man.ac.uk), so merging them would be | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | > great, all under the address s@schestowitz.com. | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | That ought to make life easier, at last | Dec 28 12:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Linux is not as bugged as Windows. | Dec 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz | My host is in Ireland, though. Bailout catastrophe | Dec 28 12:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they said both are "bugged" | Dec 28 12:18 |
| oiaohm | Really windows can be bugged threw the update system or even disabled. | Dec 28 12:18 |
| oiaohm | I would suspect MS started the myth that Linux is bugged. | Dec 28 12:18 |
| oiaohm | Security is part dependant on how much control you have. | Dec 28 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Part on how well audited everything is. | Dec 28 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Big thing Linux or freebsd or openbsd offers is source code that can be independant audited. | Dec 28 12:21 |
| MinceR | or netbsd | Dec 28 12:21 |
| schestowitz | just not openbsd :-) | Dec 28 12:22 |
| schestowitz | Open to the FBI | Dec 28 12:22 |
| schestowitz | Hope n' BSD | Dec 28 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Knock on w00d | Dec 28 12:23 |
| MinceR | wideopenbsd | Dec 28 12:23 |
| schestowitz | RapeMyCodeBSD | Dec 28 12:26 |
| schestowitz | [then gimme the bill for Mac OS X+Apple-branded PC to run my code] | Dec 28 12:29 |
| oiaohm | The audit so far as found nothing matching the size hole made out. | Dec 28 12:34 |
| oiaohm | Lets think carefully lets say for a second every country world wide did change over to software with low bug numbers. | Dec 28 12:35 |
| oiaohm | This does not only hurt malware writers. | Dec 28 12:35 |
| oiaohm | This hurts spys as well. | Dec 28 12:35 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: https://identi.ca/notice/61183509 | Dec 28 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 12:47:03 UTC - Identi.ca: #Russia approves ODF, days later Putin calls for move to !GNU !Linux . Russian officials should pay attention to #cablegate re Windows code. | Dec 28 12:49 |
| schestowitz | "jargon: for the next UK #snowpocalypse: http://is.gd/jtETk" | Dec 28 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Buy a Fucking Shovel .::. Size~: 4.11 KB | Dec 28 12:52 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: something funny is going on this year. We have flooding as well. | Dec 28 12:53 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61184539 | Dec 28 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Claudio (claudiom)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 13:11:48 UTC - Identi.ca: Yup, frost in Miami. Taken by a friend of mine in Hialeah at 5:30 AM this morning. http://i.imgur.com/qv11F.jpg | Dec 28 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Dec 28 13:37 |
| schestowitz | That's VERY rare | Dec 28 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Keir Thomas on http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20101208/tc_pcworld/whynokiaisindeeptroublewithmeego | Dec 28 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Why Nokia Is in Deep Trouble With MeeGo - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 175.82 KB | Dec 28 13:39 |
| schestowitz | "@glynmoody: Simple rebuttals to denier talking points, with links to the full climate science - http://bit.ly/e0KlSq from Aug, but worth noting for 2011" | Dec 28 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Rebutting climate science disinformer talking points in a single line « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 194.04 KB | Dec 28 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | “C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg.” --Bjarne Stroustrup | Dec 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Dec 28 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/19751322584612865 | Dec 28 14:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @glynmoody: @schestowitz that's a relief, since I didn't understand it... | Dec 28 14:03 |
| oiaohm | Really nokia is not in as deep of trouble as it seams with meego. | Dec 28 14:06 |
| oiaohm | meego is already a selling product in many markets. | Dec 28 14:06 |
| MinceR | unless nokia drops it in favor of kin7 | Dec 28 14:06 |
| schestowitz | that won't happen | Dec 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz | They wish | Dec 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz | But it's like choosing to take the suicidal route to stay with family | Dec 28 14:08 |
| oiaohm | Android has many weaknesses. | Dec 28 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Can you be specific? | Dec 28 14:09 |
| oiaohm | Like iphone can be used as a audio special effects generator. | Dec 28 14:09 |
| oiaohm | meego can use the Linux existing stack of audio effects software. | Dec 28 14:10 |
| oiaohm | To provide those features. | Dec 28 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Now if Nokia really wants to push the limit. They could setup what the hardware truly allows. | Dec 28 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Damn. I need to document all my code this week | Dec 28 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Meego phone docking into a full sized screen and keyboard and other usb devices by its usb port. | Dec 28 14:12 |
| schestowitz | And write manuals for it | Dec 28 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Currnetly you can do that with android phones if you root them and add back a stack of drivers. schestowitz | Dec 28 14:13 |
| oiaohm | Yes Nokia could in theory put the phone head to head with the netbook. | Dec 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz | They have a netbook | Dec 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz | It runs XP!! | Dec 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz | 2009 news iirc | Dec 28 14:13 |
| schestowitz | appalling, never really seen in the markets I know of... | Dec 28 14:14 |
| MinceR | 150818 < schestowitz> But it's like choosing to take the suicidal route to stay with family | Dec 28 14:14 |
| MinceR | isn't that what m$'s entryism is all about? | Dec 28 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Suicicrosoft | Dec 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Today I did some scary work on the roof | Dec 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Bad weather harmed tiles... had to walk around tiles with silicon | Dec 28 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Usually my biggest risk of die laughing in front of screen :-) | Dec 28 14:20 |
| schestowitz | /of/is/ | Dec 28 14:20 |
| schestowitz | http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2010/12/27/a-mom-from-minnesota-uses-facebook-to-find-her-daughter-a-kidney/ | Dec 28 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: A mom from Minnesota uses Facebook to find her daughter a kidney .::. Size~: 97.62 KB | Dec 28 14:21 |
| schestowitz | "@qu1j0t3: .@timbl I'm curious, do you have a critique of @twitter's /#!/... pseudo-URL scheme?" | Dec 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz | H | Dec 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/yoonkit/status/19758434287099904 | Dec 28 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @yoonkit: 17% savings. RT @schestowitz Buy a Dell WITHOUT windows http://bit.ly/h4bM5K SG$887 without; SG$1045 same machine with ‘doze @harishpillay | Dec 28 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 181.75 KB | Dec 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/seraphine/status/19758628303015936 | Dec 28 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @seraphine: @yoonkit @schestowitz @harishpillay throw ubuntu on it! | Dec 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz | timbl: you don't tweet much. You Must Be New[b] Here(R) | Dec 28 14:24 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700095147/Networking-is-crucial-to-finding-a-new-job.html That was the birth of the Utah County Job Club, which meets on Wednesdays at 8 a.m. at the Novell cafeteria conference room - is that Novell trying to help it's people find jobs? | Dec 28 14:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Networking is crucial to finding a new job | Deseret News .::. Size~: 55.43 KB | Dec 28 14:25 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: "Utah County Job Club, which meets on Wednesdays at 8 a.m. at the Novell cafeteria conference room, 1800 S. Novell Place." | Dec 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: yeah, I'm reading it... | Dec 28 14:26 |
| abeNd-org | that could just be a large freely available place to hold meetings | Dec 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz | It is | Dec 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz | They do a lot of this in Provo | Dec 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz | Almost every month in the news | Dec 28 14:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/19760505551851520 | Dec 28 14:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz I think #Microsoft is doing the same with openSUSE that #FBI did with BSD. They put backdoors and they are putting licensing.. | Dec 28 14:28 |
| abeNd-org | no biggie then | Dec 28 14:31 |
| abeNd-org | what is odd is my usually spam free gmail inbox is getting slammed today | Dec 28 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Google NEws? | Dec 28 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Alerts I mean | Dec 28 14:32 |
| schestowitz | "@themadhatter: @glynmoody: #Groklaw will continue. A lot of us support PJ in her efforts. It all comes down to ethics. Something Bill Goat doesn't get." | Dec 28 14:33 |
| schestowitz | abeNd-org: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101226/ap_on_hi_te/us_anti_spam_crusader | Dec 28 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Man quits job, makes living suing e-mail spammers - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 160.5 KB | Dec 28 14:33 |
| abeNd-org | yea, i saw that the other day, wonder if he just makes $ off payoffs, or if he actually gets them closed down | Dec 28 14:34 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: there are pay offs either way. | Dec 28 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Remember some spammers pay for there competition to be shut down. | Dec 28 14:36 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2010/12/24/nb-toews-federal-disaster-assistance-952.html | Dec 28 14:36 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: CBC News - Nova Scotia - Maritimes offered federal storm relief .::. Size~: 41.78 KB | Dec 28 14:36 |
| abeNd-org | i think the only time i heard a spammer really get shutdown is when the russian mafia got shutdown (they found the spammer offed mob execution style) | Dec 28 14:37 |
| abeNd-org | not that im endorsing mass spammer extermination in that way | Dec 28 14:38 |
| oiaohm | abeNd-org: Most likely because he did not pay the mafia. | Dec 28 14:42 |
| oiaohm | Crime is crime. | Dec 28 14:42 |
| MinceR | for the record, it doesn't seem all that likely that the fbi really backdoored the ipsec implementation of openbsd | Dec 28 14:46 |
| MinceR | (flash) (animated) (audio) http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/scientolulz | Dec 28 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: ScientLOLojyuuichi!! or Tom Cruise vs. The Internet | Flash Videos .::. Size~: 13.75 KB | Dec 28 14:47 |
| oiaohm | There were some intresting bugs found just the same. So it was not a complete waste of time. MinceR | Dec 28 14:47 |
| MinceR | auditing seems to be rarely a complete waste of time | Dec 28 14:48 |
| MinceR | also, that microhoo article is about as clueless as it gets | Dec 28 14:52 |
| MinceR | "derp derp derp proprietary software is the silver bullet that delivers perfect software immediately herp herp herp" | Dec 28 14:53 |
| schestowitz | It's AP | Dec 28 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo doesn't produce much news | Dec 28 15:00 |
| schestowitz | "fabsh: Fuck. This !LO episode is gonna be MASSIVE. Like 3hrs! All @opensourcegeek's fault.' | Dec 28 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I hate it when people add "fuck" to pretend they are cool | Dec 28 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Like shoving one's penis into a sentence | Dec 28 15:01 |
| MinceR | what if they add fuck because they are cool? | Dec 28 15:04 |
| schestowitz | fuck! I'm fucking tired of them! fahfahfah!! | Dec 28 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | replyto://61190085 | Dec 28 15:42 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61191620 | Dec 28 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 15:55:05 UTC - Identi.ca: 12 Commands Every !Linux Newbie Should Learn http://bit.ly/eKwBNT | Dec 28 16:25 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 28 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Hello | Dec 28 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Former Microsoft programmer has just mailed me.. | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Re: Draft of an email I plan to send to the LKML | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > Hi; | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > I'm thinking of sending this mail to the LKML. Do you have any feedback? | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=1691 | Dec 28 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Faster Linux world domination – GC Lingua Franca « keithcu.com .::. Size~: 65.53 KB | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks! | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | > -Keith | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | I reckon he doesn't want me to criticise him afterward | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | *wards | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | But I don't plan to reply, it's nothing to do with me.. | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/theMindjuggler/status/19855322990514177 | Dec 28 21:10 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @theMindjuggler: @laurelrusswurm @padowi @MsFrankieB @Arnie3000 @schestowitz Thank you for the RTs guys.Wish your holidays will ooze with smiling loved ones. | Dec 28 21:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/efa_oz/status/19860774717493249 | Dec 28 21:11 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @efa_oz: Electronic Frontiers Australia News is out! http://bit.ly/aJxFSZ ▸ Top stories today by @schestowitz @pumabydesign001 @ealz @noise36 | Dec 28 21:11 |
| MinceR | smiling jellified loved ones? | Dec 28 21:11 |
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