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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Miguel de Icaza is in my state's capital city, for the holidays. I wish I could meet him in person.Dec 24 00:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Attorneys: help fight copyright trolls! https://eff.org/r.3vNDec 24 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bobjonkman/@bobjonkman] @webmink sez: government largely ignores citizens instead of representing them http://ur1.ca/2nmp2 !wikileaksDec 24 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: Al-Jazeera inside story abt #wikileaks → http://ur1.ca/2nmvz /oh my, they say "hacker" and "!anarchism" like they're bad...Dec 24 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] btw, people who can draw things on their own face while looking into a mirror have my respect. i've tried it. it's hard. :PDec 24 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] listening to the Doors :-) "Riders on the Storm"Dec 24 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Backscatter scanner saftey dubious http://ur1.ca/2nn06Dec 24 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @jmcesteves: RT @EFF: What is Traitorware? https://eff.org/r.4vU #privacyDec 24 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @telecomix http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/WikiLeaks-Mirror-Sites-Lose-Web-Hosting-Services-836497/Dec 24 01:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Messing around with WordPress, any comments on the new theme? http://madhatter.caDec 24 01:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @haris@status.net Free Speech ... Les Important Than US Attorney & Courts Silencing 'Annoying' Woman http://ur1.ca/2nn4qDec 24 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Best way forward: wireline / fiber owners cannot share ownership with providers of services on those lines. Simple. Effective. Legal.Dec 24 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to voting for the opposition in west coast grc. And kicking out the incumbents. #fb http://ur1.ca/2nnn4Dec 24 02:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Wife wants to watch a Christmas movie. I'm about to suggest "Die Hard"...Dec 24 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: PUBLIC policing POLICE, else NO CHARGES would be laid. BLAIR said taped doctored: http://bit.ly/fPcDZk #cdnpoli #G20Dec 24 02:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] is at 21st Amendment with a few linux users, waiting for some !lo peopleDec 24 03:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] fifth time already: 'Aspect creation failed' on !diaspora :-sDec 24 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: if you believe that FLOSS is "first and foremost" a development model, you've missed all the good parts that are #FaiF & LibreDec 24 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @bkuhn: I'm troubled at how many don't think FLOSS is a movement to improve the rights & freedoms of computer users. Quite disturbing!Dec 24 03:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn my favorite analogy is still with freedom of the press. you don't have to write on newspapers to benefit from itDec 24 03:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @bkuhn yup, it's an industrial consumer mindset. fixing that culture is of the utmost importanceDec 24 03:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink I kind of agree, but I dissent on “delivery”, for it assumes users don't start out with it. respect is more fittingDec 24 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink the license is a tool to cancel out the harm imposed by law by defaultDec 24 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @glynmoody I don't get it. did they want to exchange the possibility of DDoS for the certainty of it?Dec 24 03:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Now Random Webhosts Are Demanding Wikileaks Mirrors Be Taken Down Over Possibility Of DDoS? - http://bit.ly/eFZcegDec 24 03:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: rt @Crosbie granting patents on medicines we get expensive palliatives. If we offered rewards for cures, we'd get curesDec 24 03:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Monsaton (sic) patents http://bit.ly/eyUUhN 1st they contaminate you, then they sue you, then they laugh at you, then you see we lostDec 24 03:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana when we refuse to offer a Free distro, even as an option, claiming it would cost more or sell less, conflict is clearDec 24 04:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana speaking of software or licenses, it mostly is, but there are exceptions both ways; + FS and OSS are more than sw and licsDec 24 04:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] revamping my website...Dec 24 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @ProPublica White House Drafts Executive Order for Indefinite Detention http://bit.ly/hACBzQDec 24 04:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://lwn.net/Articles/420979/rssDec 24 05:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] In other news, I got a call from Alaska's Directory Assistance number. Not sure why... lolDec 24 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] would be nice if there is a way to host #openvpn behind an regular apache instance via port-share or by a path on http(s)Dec 24 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter Sure it is - when you consider they'll only sell a few copies to each library instead of thousands of copies to welfarersDec 24 05:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] #Bell #Canada is #Terribad - Part One - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=1218 #extortion #fraud #falsebillingDec 24 05:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "CONNECT does not work over existing SSL connection" http://is.gd/jlPag will be in #Apache 2.4 ? finally #since2004Dec 24 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter That $50 million will come out of your pension, look at #ireland and what the #imf did because it had so much #debtDec 24 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter You can get books for 1-2 year olds at the library for free, without raising taxesDec 24 05:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Ireland was a case of an inside bank theft. totally different situation. If Ireland had Canadian laws, it wouldn't have happened.Dec 24 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Who's talking about raising taxes? I'm talking about keeping the same level. The UK government is lowering taxes.Dec 24 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 They say they can't afford 50 million, while spending 1 billion per destroyer (which don't work).Dec 24 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Meanwhile, the country is in debt, and they are lowering taxes, so it will be in worse debt. Stupid is as stupid does.Dec 24 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter The #UK government doesn't have ANY money to spend. Every dollar spent is a dollar borrowed from the #worldbank.Dec 24 05:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @ender2070 server is downDec 24 05:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Incorrect. They have money, or would if it wasn't for the tax cuts.Dec 24 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @rrix its back upDec 24 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Anyone who's ever lived on their own could do a better job of budgeting than the UK government.Dec 24 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] @themadhatter Almost all of the western countries owe a large amount of #debt to the #worldbank because of costly #socialist programs.Dec 24 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I need thisDec 24 05:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I need this ur1.ca/2nop7Dec 24 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @quaid RD @jwildeboer #mustread El Pais editor Javier Moreno explains #cablegate from his perspective. Very #insightful http://j.mp/gww6isDec 24 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] just built phonon from its new home: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phononDec 24 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Who has two thumbs and left his computer charger at dad's house? *thumbs point at self* this guyDec 24 07:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] taking the evening off, alone in the house, going to watch a bad movie and laugh a bit (Sharktopus!)Dec 24 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] from next year I open my own company in China "specializing in F/OSS and IT services."Dec 24 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 40: Some New Toys! http://rix.si/index.php/365_Project_Day_40:_Some_New_Toys!Dec 24 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @aseigo bad movies are always so wonderful. :)Dec 24 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Winter of Code http://bit.ly/i67bYv best time of the year to do it ;-)Dec 24 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gbraad from next year I open my own company in China "specializing in F/OSS and IT services." < good luck!Dec 24 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @gbraad from next year I open my own company in China "specializing in F/OSS and IT services."Dec 24 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] who is the more dangerous personality cult? Jesus or Jobs? Can the followers of either have more than one lord? #humourDec 24 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Re Jesus, with thousands of gods available to worship; Monotheists are close to atheists. They just have to kick that last one.Dec 24 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera Monotheists? as in #Mono roflDec 24 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Ha ha, I was thinking of that while I typed it.Dec 24 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow. White Christmas. It really happened. Snowing like mad here in Duisburg.Dec 24 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] EU's Main #ACTA Supporter Caught Lying About ACTA http://ur1.ca/2npqtDec 24 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] schönes Weihnachtsgeschenk der #bpb http://ur1.ca/2n0a6 Freie Software !fs #pdfreaders gelistetDec 24 04:11
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedomDec 24 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley #Manning and the Convenient Memories of Adrian Lamo - http://bit.ly/hg5xHH questions that need answering (v @Asher_Wolf)Dec 24 09:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Guide to the Open Internet - http://bit.ly/eU60Ep nice graphical representation for passing around (via @auxbuss) #netneutralityDec 24 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh Oh Oh, Merry Xmas to all my fellow identers!!!Dec 24 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh Oh Oh, Merry Xmas to all my tweeteres!Dec 24 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Deutsche See - Fischmanufaktur" Wir machen die jetzt schon von Hand? #armesdeutschland ^^Dec 24 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lh Excellent article on "Why T-Shirts Matter" in tech culture. http://ping.fm/pcFWO (via @vaurora)Dec 24 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @akari Viva los ¿artistas? españoles! http://freesoftwareando.com/2010/12/22/hipocritas/Dec 24 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Suicide bombers: fanatics, or suicidally depressed? - http://bit.ly/hxhoz9 intriguing idea #suicideDec 24 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz ♺ @FFII Groklaw on why they were right about Novell is.gd/j9oT1 #OOXMLDec 24 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz ♺ @rcweir Anyone remember Microsoft, OOXML and Sweden? 1st time was a mistake. 2nd time an inter-corporate ageement . ht ...Dec 24 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh, A-Ha is history. PityDec 24 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh, A-Ha já era. Que penaDec 24 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tree That Survived 9/11 Attack Is Replanted At Ground Zero http://ur1.ca/2nr3f !wlDec 24 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Leading social conservative: "Obama is selling us out to the Indians." He then clarified: "Teepee, not turban" http://ur1.ca/2nr3qDec 24 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The WikiLeaks strategy: Bank of America buys up abusive domain names http://ur1.ca/2nr3v !wlDec 24 10:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Revenge of the Titans will go open-source at 1.75M! - http://bit.ly/gaZzLZ kudos: v. interesting approach #opensourceDec 24 10:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ukranian Wikipedia Reaches 250,000 Article Milestone - http://bit.ly/gpZeoB impressive; #Wikipedia community v. strong in #Ukraine it seemsDec 24 10:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Elie Wiesel... holocaust winner. Fuck you, Fox News http://ur1.ca/2nr52 !wlDec 24 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 177 nations guarantee paid leave for new mothers, 74 for new fathers, 163 for sick leave; the US does not http://ur1.ca/2nr5s !wlDec 24 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mozilla Proposes New Icons to Clarify Websites' Privacy Policies - http://rww.to/dM3gKB nice idea, but will it catch on #privacy #mozillaDec 24 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senate decides we don't need a Nobel winning economist from MIT to be on the board that sets our monetary policy http://ur1.ca/2nr5z !wlDec 24 10:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] 'Harry Potter' Actress Beaten by Family for Dating Non-Muslim http://ur1.ca/2nr69Dec 24 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Revenge of the Titans will go open-source at 1.75M! - http://bit.ly/gaZzLZ kudos: v. interesting approach #opensourceDec 24 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reclaim The Cyber-Commons - http://bit.ly/eMOk5q Astroturf's creator caught #astroturfing... #commons #monsantoDec 24 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad: authenticated path on https could activate an iptables rule to let you reach an openvpn instance listening on 443 but on other IPDec 24 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Neo-Nazis go nuts over black Thor in Marvel movie http://ur1.ca/2nr9xDec 24 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Black swan eggs were the secret ingredient in Ovaltine http://ur1.ca/2nra2Dec 24 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] MegaUpload Dares RIAA To Sue Them http://ur1.ca/2nral !wlDec 24 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wikileaks Cable Shows US Involvement in Swedish Anti-Piracy Efforts - http://bit.ly/hVF2xW surprised? nor me (v @telecomix) #swedenDec 24 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Microsoft BPOS configuration screw up causes data disclosure http://ur1.ca/2nraoDec 24 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Interview with imprisoned Russian art group http://ur1.ca/2nrat !wlDec 24 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Wikileaks Cable Shows US Involvement in Swedish Anti-Piracy Efforts - http://bit.ly/hVF2xW surprised? nor me (v @telecomix)Dec 24 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff: The LibreOffice website is live! http://www.libreoffice.org and http://de.libreoffice.org #libo #tdfDec 24 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Some more virtual car porn uploaded: http://fabsh.smugmug.com/Video-Games/Gran-Turismo-5 #gt5 !ps3Dec 24 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love this one: http://ur1.ca/2nrdo -- wrecking the WRX at the Nürburgring #gt5 !ps3Dec 24 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sounds like @th3k4ty is enjoying the snow...Dec 24 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The next #playoff is a patent infringer http://j.mp/gX0t8b #patentMadnessDec 24 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @charlesschulz: Nice one, these pop up all around France in support of !Wikileaks: http://yfrog.com/h6lsizjDec 24 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brazil’s highway to China - http://bit.ly/igPFqm whoa: can you say "the future"... #brazil #chinaDec 24 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft: “Genuine! It’s Not The Same!” Anti-Piracy Campaign - http://bit.ly/f5ag9y rather ambiguous slogan, methinks #chinaDec 24 11:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Religious Right Attacks Environmentalism As 'Deadly' And 'Destructive' In New DVD Series - http://huff.to/hs04Wq science under attack againDec 24 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Entering #exammode - You can reach me for important things on pieter aŧ iRail beDec 24 11:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My gut feeling is that China is working on destabilising the dollar and euro. #WarOfCurrency #weltMachtGeldDec 24 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @nailuj: Happy Christmas to all the !linuxoutlaws who celebrate on the *right* day :DDec 24 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @glynmoody Brazil’s highway to China - http://bit.ly/igPFqm whoa: can you say "the future"... #brazil #chinaDec 24 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hungary's government should not be allowed to be EU president. It is disgusting how Orbán defends his censorship/1984 law.Dec 24 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jwildeboer: Why would they do that? Is an own goal. For China as many other countries it is about weaning world off USD, Euro is sideshowDec 24 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh hit diggity daffodil, GT is getting hella visually realistic these daysDec 24 11:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @thistleweb Yeah, it's pretty cool. Shows you what the PS3 can really do if developers let it and don't dumb down the games for the XBox.Dec 24 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh not been a gamer for ages, but I am increasingly tempted to break out the PS2 for some Colin MaCrae 4 or GT3 (I think)Dec 24 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @satipera China is sitting on giant amounts of Dollars and Euros. Now they start using it to "invest" in BRIC countries but also here.Dec 24 11:57
schestowitzIs there a handy command for adding trailing zeroes to a number?Dec 24 11:59
schestowitzSuch that 1 and 100 become 00001 and 00100?Dec 24 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra I have 4 IP addresses available to experiment, so explain in a little bit more detail by email ;-)Dec 24 12:01
gnufreexI computed that Windows ARM rumors are FUD. To freeze market and stop people from switching to ARM and GNU/LinuxDec 24 12:02
gnufreexSame as 128-bit Windows rumors last year.Dec 24 12:03
gnufreexand 128-bit Intel CPUsDec 24 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I went through "favourite car" phases in GT, which mostly came to "today I'll be mostly driving a Dodge Viper"Dec 24 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Using the opportunity of being over here to upgrade my mother's laptop from Ubuntu Karmic to Fedora 14.Dec 24 12:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jwildeboer: China has huge amounts of USD, true. Why would they want to destabalise? They would be left with papiermarks. #movingonfromusdDec 24 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh more of a mumdora than a mumbuntuDec 24 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Windows ARM rumors are FUD/vapor. To freeze market and stop people from switching to ARM and GNU/Linux. Similar to this: http://ur1.ca/2ns45Dec 24 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] Assange named Le Monde Man of the Year http://is.gd/jmQxY !wikileaksDec 24 12:17
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oiaohmgnufreex: Really the NT on arm will become a requirement.   Lot of server hardware is appear that is arm.Dec 24 12:34
gnufreexoiaohm, yes but Vista  7 can't even run on today's ARM hardwareDec 24 12:36
oiaohmI know gnufreexDec 24 12:36
oiaohmBut the clock is ticking.Dec 24 12:36
gnufreexArmadaXP by marvell might be only chip that could run it.Dec 24 12:36
oiaohmServer room 8 and 16 core arm chips.Dec 24 12:37
oiaohmrunning at 2 ghz +.  gnufreexDec 24 12:37
oiaohmThey do have the balls to handle Windows 7Dec 24 12:37
gnufreexAnd it is stupid to run Windows on ARM anyways, when you can run GNU/Linux  and save like buch of resourcesDec 24 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: Just released: Linux Outlaws 182 - Special: Gran Turismo 5 Review http://ur1.ca/2nscc -- Merry Christmas from the Outlaws!Dec 24 12:37
oiaohmEven that you normally would not.Dec 24 12:37
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gnufreexand moneyDec 24 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What's up with free multimedia production tools in 2010:http://t.co/lpATOBg Don't hesitate to retweet :)Dec 24 12:42
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oiaohmgnufreex: now the other thing.  NT on armDec 24 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What's up with free multimedia production tools in 2010: http://t.co/lpATOBg Don't hesitate to retweet :)Dec 24 12:44
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oiaohmWould allow MS to consider the fact that xbox 360 is party NT based.  And possible reduced down to only having 1 kernel development team.  gnufreexDec 24 12:44
oiaohmBasically NT on arm could be a nightmare for a few people at MicrosoftDec 24 12:44
gnufreexI am not saying it can't be ported, it just doesn't make sense. NT ran on Alpha, POWER, MIPS, even SPARC and Clipper ports were in pipeline.Dec 24 12:47
gnufreexIt is obviously portable... sort of.Dec 24 12:47
oiaohmNT it self very portableDec 24 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Evolution Of #Microsoft #Windows 1985 – 2009 - http://bit.ly/dYqNdV eek, I remember all but the first (via @jackschofield)Dec 24 12:47
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oiaohmApplications on top of it.Dec 24 12:47
oiaohmVerry not portable.Dec 24 12:47
oiaohmMS .net was an attempt to address this very issue.Dec 24 12:48
cubezzzNT was the only non-X86 windows yes?Dec 24 12:48
oiaohmSomething most people are not aware Reactos has a working arm port.Dec 24 12:48
gnufreexcubezzz: yes, but Vista is NT tooDec 24 12:48
oiaohmNT internal design works quite ok on arm.Dec 24 12:48
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gnufreexNT does have critical portions of kernel written in assembly.Dec 24 12:49
oiaohmNo gnufreexDec 24 12:49
cubezzzit's weird, Microsoft makes snarky comments re: intel, and yet they probably do more to prop intel up than anyoneDec 24 12:49
gnufreexoiaohm: Yes, there is 10 000 lines or soDec 24 12:50
gnufreexThose need to be rewrtiten for every portDec 24 12:50
oiaohmReally reactos puts that number down around 5000Dec 24 12:50
oiaohmBut that is normal OS porting numbers.Dec 24 12:51
cubezzzwhat would you say is the number one non-x86 OS?Dec 24 12:51
gnufreexProblem is that those are reallDec 24 12:51
gnufreexyDec 24 12:51
gnufreexcritical partsDec 24 12:51
cubezzzor distro ratherDec 24 12:51
oiaohmAnd most exist.Dec 24 12:51
gnufreexLinux has 0 assembly linesDec 24 12:51
oiaohmfalse gnufreexDec 24 12:51
oiaohmThe assemble in the Linux hides inside C files.Dec 24 12:52
gnufreexoiaohm: Inline assembly?Dec 24 12:52
oiaohmYepDec 24 12:52
gnufreexHow much?Dec 24 12:52
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oiaohmAbout 5000 lines per platform.Dec 24 12:52
oiaohmThat mostly releated to memory and cpu control.Dec 24 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT crosstalk mostly promotes heat and not light. Are they encouraged to browbeat each other? Some programmes ok . Sometimes it is awful.Dec 24 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Software said to match quantum computing speed - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/gdfdo1Dec 24 12:54
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oiaohmcubezzz: embeded lot of it that is Linux is custom distribution per device.Dec 24 12:54
cubezzzseabios has some assemblyDec 24 12:55
cubezzzwe use that with corebootDec 24 12:55
oiaohmIts basically not avoidable.Dec 24 12:55
oiaohmYou must have some.Dec 24 12:55
cubezzzof course :)Dec 24 12:55
gnufreexCan't get info of how many assembly there is in NTDec 24 12:55
gnufreexI mean exactlyDec 24 12:55
cubezzzsometimes assembly language is the way to goDec 24 12:56
gnufreexI read somewhere it is 10 000Dec 24 12:56
oiaohmVery rarely cubezzzDec 24 12:56
oiaohmThe issue with assembly is that it has to be updated with cpus.Dec 24 12:56
cubezzzoiaohm, bios replacement? :)Dec 24 12:56
cubezzzkind of need it thereDec 24 12:56
oiaohmIts simple to update the complier and fix everywhere than be trying to track down all blocks of code that need updating all the time.Dec 24 12:57
oiaohmWhen complier were dumber there was more advantage to using asm code.Dec 24 12:57
oiaohmEven in a bios most of the code these days is like forth or CDec 24 12:58
cubezzzwhat is the convention for assembly files?Dec 24 12:58
cubezzzI see *.S filesDec 24 12:58
oiaohm.S is gasDec 24 12:58
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oiaohmie the assmeble from binutils.Dec 24 12:59
cubezzzin the old days I recall *.asmDec 24 12:59
oiaohm.asm that is masm tasm nasm... All with slightly different processing.Dec 24 12:59
oiaohmLinux kernel has gone inline where it can for very good reasons.Dec 24 13:00
cubezzzon c64 we had a really kudgey systemDec 24 13:00
oiaohmC has a defined way to do inline asm.Dec 24 13:00
oiaohmThat is common accross compliers.Dec 24 13:00
cubezzzassembly with line numbers, entered like a basic programDec 24 13:00
cubezzzoiaohm, can you remember what people did with CP/M for assembly?Dec 24 13:01
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oiaohmI am not quite that old. CP/M is just before my time in coding.Dec 24 13:01
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cubezzzI've totally got away from assembly, but...Dec 24 13:03
cubezzzif you ever have a chance to see some commercial game code, sometimes there is some assembler in there for speedDec 24 13:03
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oiaohmI have also ripped that code out.  cubezzzDec 24 13:04
oiaohmFor the simple fact all it was doing was slowing the game down on particular processes.Dec 24 13:04
cubezzzoddDec 24 13:04
oiaohmNot odd.Dec 24 13:04
gnufreexI have been playing with MIPS64emu yesterday.Dec 24 13:04
oiaohmMost compliers can proper memory block align C code they build.Dec 24 13:05
oiaohmFor cpu'sDec 24 13:05
gnufreexIt is a thingie for MIPS assemblyDec 24 13:05
oiaohmBut they don't proper memory align asm stuff in the final binaries proper.  cubezzzDec 24 13:05
oiaohmSo yes asm more often than not shoots feed off for speed if complier is working.Dec 24 13:06
cubezzzmaybe Microsoft copied CP/M conventions on the assembly filesDec 24 13:06
oiaohmMS base asm instructions are intelsDec 24 13:06
oiaohmWhat they did in the preprocessor of there asmebler is kinda unique.Dec 24 13:06
cubezzzoiaohm, if the alignment was off, wouldn't the program just crash?Dec 24 13:06
oiaohmNo alignment off program does not crash.Dec 24 13:07
oiaohmYou know cpu have so much cache inside them.Dec 24 13:07
oiaohmAlignment is so the cpu loads releated blocks of code into there caches.Dec 24 13:07
cubezzzhmmm, maybe that is CPU specificDec 24 13:07
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cubezzzok, found the earliest CP/M code :)Dec 24 13:08
oiaohmYes very cpu specific. cubezzzDec 24 13:08
cubezzzthis should be interestingDec 24 13:08
oiaohmAnd cpu change over time how there caches have worked.Dec 24 13:08
oiaohmThis is part of the difference when you tell gcc to build i386 i486 i586 i686 ..... code.Dec 24 13:08
cubezzzoiaohm, plm filesDec 24 13:08
cubezzzfor early CP/MDec 24 13:09
oiaohmSame with other compliers.Dec 24 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zuargo/@zuargo] !Wikileaks revela que #Microsoft facilitó el código fuente de #Windows a #China http://bit.ly/dRCu52Dec 24 13:09
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cubezzzjune 1975Dec 24 13:09
oiaohmPent 3 and Pent 4 have completely different block sizes.Dec 24 13:09
oiaohmYes just inside x86 you have different optimisation requiredDec 24 13:10
cubezzzwe are so isolated from the cpu nowadaysDec 24 13:10
oiaohmReally we are not.Dec 24 13:10
oiaohmWe just want to think we are.Dec 24 13:10
cubezzzoiaohm, oops, I think this is Pascal I'm looking atDec 24 13:10
cubezzzhmmmDec 24 13:10
oiaohmcompliers do the heavy lifting.Dec 24 13:10
cubezzzwas Pascal around in 1975?Dec 24 13:11
cubezzzPL/M language hmmmDec 24 13:11
cubezzznot pascalDec 24 13:11
cubezzzearly language Kildall made in 1972 for intel cpuDec 24 13:12
oiaohmPascal is a lot older than you think.  Birthed  1970Dec 24 13:12
cubezzzyes, but it wasn't Pascal, I was wrongDec 24 13:12
cubezzzguess I'm too young for PL/M :)Dec 24 13:13
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/MDec 24 13:13
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oiaohm1972 yes its a young language than pascalDec 24 13:13
cubezzzPascal must have run on minis thenDec 24 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] There is no logical reason for the fact that the default Fedora install doesn't install system-config-language, is there? #crapDec 24 13:14
oiaohmPL/M had about a 8 year life span/Dec 24 13:14
oiaohmie it basically died out in 1980Dec 24 13:14
cubezzzhow come?Dec 24 13:14
oiaohmCDec 24 13:14
oiaohmpl/m to c coverter appearedDec 24 13:15
oiaohmAnd C was on more platforms.Dec 24 13:15
cubezzzmost of the early PC stuff wasn't even using CDec 24 13:15
gnufreexC runs on everythingsDec 24 13:15
gnufreexzDec 24 13:15
cubezzzAPL & BASIC as I recallDec 24 13:15
gnufreexYeah, PC was always crap.Dec 24 13:16
cubezzzI didn't start seeing C pop up until the Amiga 500 around 1987Dec 24 13:16
gnufreexMost Windows programs are not C.Dec 24 13:16
cubezzzAztec and Manx... if I'm spelling that rightDec 24 13:16
oiaohmMost windows programs are C++Dec 24 13:16
cubezzznow of course there's tons and tons of CDec 24 13:17
gnufreexMost Doze programs are VBDec 24 13:17
gnufreexlolDec 24 13:17
cubezzzgnufreex, not the few I wrote :)Dec 24 13:17
oiaohmThe programs that are worth a darm on windows are C++.  gnufreexDec 24 13:17
gnufreexyeah, but most are not worthDec 24 13:17
cubezzzalso all my MS DOS stuff was C, at least the stuff I still haveDec 24 13:17
cubezzznow I feel trapped in x86-landDec 24 13:18
cubezzzbefore we had Motorola 680x0 at leastDec 24 13:18
cubezzzeven my arm cpu is Intel StrongARMDec 24 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] White Christmas http://ur1.ca/2nsviDec 24 13:19
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oiaohm1972 is when C appearDec 24 13:19
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gnufreexYep, 1972 UNIX got rewrited from B to CDec 24 13:20
cubezzzoiaohm, if one wanted a non-x86 desktop, what could they get?Dec 24 13:20
cubezzz6502 assembly seemed so straight-forwardDec 24 13:21
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_programming_languagesDec 24 13:21
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oiaohmBasic is a very old language.Dec 24 13:21
oiaohmBut here is the shocking thing MS had nothing todo with its creation.Dec 24 13:21
cubezzzeven the Altair had BASIC, so yeah :)Dec 24 13:22
oiaohmNo that is not the firstDec 24 13:22
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cubezzzyeah I know, 60'sDec 24 13:22
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_BASIC  The first.Dec 24 13:23
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cubezzzbefore our timeDec 24 13:23
gnufreexOnly language that was ever competitive to C for system programing was BLISS. System Software Implementation Language, Backwards.Dec 24 13:23
cubezzzok, never heard of thatDec 24 13:24
gnufreexVMS has bunch of parts writen in BLISS.Dec 24 13:24
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cubezzzI could buy a 64dtv I supposeDec 24 13:25
cubezzzsome guys even added a keyboard to itDec 24 13:25
cubezzzor that C-one thingDec 24 13:25
cubezzzif I _really_ wanted non x86 :)Dec 24 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Socialist program=Corporate Welfare BumsDec 24 13:26
cubezzzno MMU thoughDec 24 13:27
oiaohmWhen you see the history of langauges you can be sure at best 1 out of 10 new langauges will stand a chance.Dec 24 13:28
gnufreexIf you want non-x86, but Lemote.Dec 24 13:28
gnufreex*buyDec 24 13:28
oiaohmAnd out of that 1Dec 24 13:28
gnufreexRMS has thatDec 24 13:28
oiaohmthat still only have a 1 in 10 change of still be important after 10 years.Dec 24 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex: Windows ARM rumors - you mean attempt - evreyone knows that you don't use Windows on tablets or phones...Dec 24 13:29
oiaohmThe timeline of computer languages is missing a lot where that just not important enough to report.Dec 24 13:29
cubezzzoiaohm, those really early languages look interestingDec 24 13:30
cubezzzprobably totally different from what we are accustomed toDec 24 13:30
oiaohmMost not that different.Dec 24 13:31
oiaohmMost have flaws in there designs that make them limited.Dec 24 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @themadhatter I think rumours are about Windows Server for ARM. But it is unclear.Dec 24 13:32
cubezzzI can't find anything non x86 motherboard wiseDec 24 13:33
cubezzzexcept NOS Amiga that isDec 24 13:34
cubezzzwhich is old old oldDec 24 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Re evolution of Windows, me too, plus GEOS, GEM, OS2, CP/M, Concurrent DOS, and a bunch of others.Dec 24 13:34
Ender2070AMD FUSIONDec 24 13:34
gnufreexcubezzz: I you want to asemble your own non-x86, its hard to find partsDec 24 13:35
gnufreexBetter buy wholeDec 24 13:35
gnufreexI mean, laready set upDec 24 13:36
*cubezzz nodsDec 24 13:36
cubezzzhmm, so they are fusing ATI and AMDDec 24 13:36
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gnufreexI hate that Fusion bussines.Dec 24 13:37
gnufreexI want separate graphics card.Dec 24 13:37
cubezzzsame hereDec 24 13:37
cubezzzthat's why I run old stuffDec 24 13:37
gnufreexWell, not all new stuf is going to fuseDec 24 13:38
cubezzzI at least want something with an MMU thoughDec 24 13:38
oiaohmhttp://www.arm.com/products/tools/development-boards/versatile-express.php  Part of the problem.  cubezzzDec 24 13:38
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oiaohmLot of arm ATX formfactor are highly warped.Dec 24 13:38
oiaohmAnd are designed as prototyping platforms for embeded devices.Dec 24 13:38
cubezzzbasically I want a computer that is easy to fixDec 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex Server versions of Linux for ARM already exist. If ARM does become popular, the two year delay will hurt Microsoft. #ARMDec 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: Top 10 Ombudsman 2010 stories coming soon! Have your say. Let me know what you think should make the list.Dec 24 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex Just think, they also have to port IIS, Exchange, SQL, and god knows what else... #ARMDec 24 13:39
cubezzzso the old ISA/PCI p3 era is good, there's tons of partsDec 24 13:39
cubezzzI still have some ISA sound cardsDec 24 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: Will be on @metromorning next Wednesday at 8:15AM to review top 2010 Ombudsman stories.Dec 24 13:41
cubezzzcan you still find motherboards without nic, video, sound on them?Dec 24 13:41
cubezzzlike new ones?Dec 24 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @themadhatter I think porting all that is not really hard. What is hard is making other vendors port their stuff.Dec 24 13:42
cubezzzgigabyte GA-6BXC is like thatDec 24 13:43
cubezzzbut again, oldDec 24 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @themadhatter also, VistaNT is to bloated. ARM is for low end servers, which are cheap. Why would those people buy Windows?Dec 24 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex Porting isn't that simple, unless everything is the same, which requires a lot of work to setup.Dec 24 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] !WikiLeaks to release Israel documents in six months http://is.gd/jn5YkDec 24 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex The ARM port is supposed to be modular. Making monolithic X86/AMD64 Windows modular will be hard.Dec 24 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex Especially after Microsoft put all of those years into making it monolithic so everything was integrated. Two years? Try four.Dec 24 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And now my mother is set up on Fedora 14. Gives me a good feeling. Just copying all the backups back... :)Dec 24 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @themadhatter To be fair, NT did run on lot of non-x86 stuff. DEC Alpha, POWER, MIPS, and also had beta on SPARC and Clipper.Dec 24 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @themadhatter But it ran like dog, and nobody knows what they did with the code after cancelling all those.Dec 24 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @themadhatter Oh, yes, Itanic too. They still have that one.Dec 24 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] #android since minor update a short while ago the voice recognition has been much better. Still surprised it gets it right, more often.Dec 24 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink links for 2010-12-24: What is Traitorware? Useful, clear explanation of the threat we all face from the trust w... http://w ...Dec 24 13:59
Ender2070[08:37] <gnufreex> I hate that Fusion bussines.Dec 24 14:02
Ender2070[08:37] <gnufreex> I want separate graphics card.Dec 24 14:02
Ender2070ever heard of crossfire ?Dec 24 14:03
gnufreexYeah. I played with that.Dec 24 14:03
Ender2070well you can crossfire with the built in gpuDec 24 14:03
Ender2070and have a seperate graphics card tooDec 24 14:03
gnufreexThat sucksDec 24 14:03
gnufreexThey are differentDec 24 14:03
gnufreexYou need to have 2 same to have good performanceDec 24 14:04
gnufreexOtherwise you depend on driver hacksDec 24 14:04
gnufreexAnd stability is lame too.Dec 24 14:04
gnufreexAlso, 2 weak cards always lose against one strong.Dec 24 14:04
gnufreexIntegrated cards are weak.Dec 24 14:05
Ender2070what chip is integrated in AMD FUSION?Dec 24 14:05
gnufreexIt is not released yet (AFAIK)Dec 24 14:05
gnufreexBut it will probably be lowest one.Dec 24 14:05
Ender2070LOLDec 24 14:05
Ender2070so you're talking out of your assDec 24 14:06
gnufreexWhat am I talking from my ass?Dec 24 14:06
gnufreexI am talking about Hybrid crossfireDec 24 14:06
gnufreexThat is old newsDec 24 14:06
gnufreexThere are IGP chipsets, you know.Dec 24 14:07
gnufreexOnly new thing here is that GPU moves from northbridge to CPUDec 24 14:07
Ender2070you seem to think its going to be shittyDec 24 14:07
Ender2070based on shitty IGP's you've dealt withDec 24 14:07
Ender2070when I first heard of fusion they were playing with radeon 4850'sDec 24 14:08
Ender2070on the cpuDec 24 14:08
Ender2070not a shitty cardDec 24 14:08
gnufreexRadeon 4850 on the card?Dec 24 14:08
Ender2070a 4850 on the cpuDec 24 14:08
Ender2070part of fusionDec 24 14:08
gnufreexDo you have an idea how much power that would suck?Dec 24 14:08
Ender2070that was two years agoDec 24 14:08
Ender2070why do you think its not out yetDec 24 14:08
gnufreexWhere did you see that?Dec 24 14:09
Ender2070a 4850 today is less than 100 and if its designed using the new process they have it wouldnt drain that muchDec 24 14:09
gnufreexI want to seeDec 24 14:09
Ender2070they have something better nowDec 24 14:09
Ender2070im looking for itDec 24 14:09
gnufreexWhat I was saying above is about hybrid crossfireDec 24 14:09
gnufreexIt has little to do with FusionDec 24 14:09
Ender2070you were bashing integrated gpu on the cpuDec 24 14:09
gnufreexIt is same if you use a HD4550 and 5870Dec 24 14:10
gnufreexIt will suckDec 24 14:10
gnufreexThose are both separate cardsDec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3[09:02:52] <Ender2070> [08:37] <gnufreex> I hate that Fusion bussines.Dec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3[09:02:53] <Ender2070> [08:37] <gnufreex> I want separate graphics card.Dec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3its officialDec 24 14:10
Ender2070it wont be a low end cardDec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3gnufreex is retardedDec 24 14:10
Ender2070it will be a mid level gpuDec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3that _isnt_ a graphics card in thereDec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3the graphics card is still on the north bridgeDec 24 14:10
Diablo-D3whats on the fusion chips is a radeon-like core that _only_ does gpgpu workDec 24 14:11
Ender2070yay diabloDec 24 14:11
Ender2070you know way more about this than I doDec 24 14:11
Diablo-D3its no different than the stand alone mmx/sse cores in old intel chipsDec 24 14:11
Diablo-D3it _can_ be used as part of a crossfire setup, just like IGP video cores on existing northbridges canDec 24 14:11
Diablo-D3having the central brains and ALUs of the radeon inside the cpu as a native hypertransport member is extremely usefulDec 24 14:12
Diablo-D3but it doesnt make it a full video card.Dec 24 14:12
Diablo-D3but it makes it really fucking fastDec 24 14:12
Diablo-D3the server versions of this (8 or 16 or whatever cpu cores + a shitload of radeon CU+ALUs) is obviously for large scale parallel gpgpu work, not involved in straight out graphics at allDec 24 14:13
Diablo-D3the micro-Fusions that compete with Atoms, its not so obviousDec 24 14:13
gnufreex[16:02:56] <Ender2070> well you can crossfire with the built in gpuDec 24 14:13
gnufreex[16:11:23] <Diablo-D3> it _can_ be used as part of a crossfire setup, just like IGP video cores on existing northbridges canDec 24 14:13
gnufreexIt can be use but it will suckDec 24 14:13
Diablo-D3it wont suckDec 24 14:14
gnufreexThat is what I was talking aboutDec 24 14:14
Diablo-D3gnufreex: but its also not being sold to youDec 24 14:14
Diablo-D3fusion probably wont see itself in desktops for awhileDec 24 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New avatar! It's scary Tele Fab! :DDec 24 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Medvedev not worried about #wikileaks [ru] - http://bit.ly/dOyG3j showing the US how to play it: coolDec 24 14:14
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Diablo-D3they'll stick with IGP in northbridge setupsDec 24 14:14
Diablo-D3its atom killers and xeon killers that this is being pushed forDec 24 14:14
Diablo-D3(well, xeon+cuda)Dec 24 14:14
Ender2070it will make awesome netbooksDec 24 14:15
gnufreexNo, you don't understand me.Dec 24 14:15
Diablo-D3Ender2070: its even better than awesomeDec 24 14:15
Diablo-D3lets take the newest Atom, onboard GMA and shitDec 24 14:15
Diablo-D3and then the new micro FusionsDec 24 14:15
Ender2070while certain people are tinkering around with ARM shitDec 24 14:15
Diablo-D3both use same wattage cpu+northbrigeDec 24 14:15
gnufreexI was saying that hybrid crosfire sucks, you know, when you use one weak and one strong card.Dec 24 14:15
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gnufreexFusion is thatDec 24 14:15
gnufreexIn factDec 24 14:15
gnufreexIf you use Fusion GPUDec 24 14:16
Diablo-D3atom does single channel ddr2-800, fusion uses dual channel ddr3-1333Dec 24 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Talking about Socialism, did you see the McCarthy bot response?Dec 24 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @agentsmith: What's up with free multimedia production tools in 2010: http://t.co/lpATOBg Don't hesitate to retweet :)Dec 24 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Here's a good article about corporate efficiency -Dec 24 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @rms: Obama sentences Guantanamo detainees to indefinite detention http://ur1.ca/2ns7vDec 24 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education top 10 posts of 2010: No. 10 - Jaron Lanier: open textbooks "appalling and preposterous" | http://bit.ly/gOfVbFDec 24 14:16
gnufreexAnd separate oneDec 24 14:16
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gnufreexFusion alone might be fineDec 24 14:16
Diablo-D3atom does dx9 and no video acceleration, fusion does dx11 and can do 1080p h264 at bluray bitratesDec 24 14:16
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Diablo-D3atom cant do usb3 or sata3, fusion canDec 24 14:16
Diablo-D3atom cant do gigabit, fusion canDec 24 14:16
Diablo-D3(and with those last two, yes, the manuf can include a chip to make atom do it, but they cant get rid of the shit they already have in the southbridge)Dec 24 14:17
gnufreexAgain, Fusion will probably be fine for mobileDec 24 14:17
gnufreexno crossfire in mobileDec 24 14:17
Diablo-D3the micro fusions are perfect for netbooks and light laptopsDec 24 14:17
gnufreexI was replying to EnderDec 24 14:17
Diablo-D3gnufreex: but look what I said aboveDec 24 14:17
gnufreexYou riped that from contextDec 24 14:17
Diablo-D3they will have massive enterprise chipsDec 24 14:17
Diablo-D38 or 16 cores + a 69xx worth of ALUsDec 24 14:18
Diablo-D3gnufreex: oh, and btw, re taking different sized cards... that shit works fineDec 24 14:18
Diablo-D3on games that use tile rendering crossfire, it dynamically assigns tilesDec 24 14:18
Diablo-D3so an IGP Radeon would get, say, 15% of the tilesDec 24 14:18
gnufreexI was talking about idea to run Fusion GPU IGP CPU + Graphics CardDec 24 14:19
Diablo-D3fusions dont use igpDec 24 14:19
gnufreexThat defeats the purpose of CrossfireDec 24 14:19
Diablo-D3it defeats a purpose that.... was already designed?Dec 24 14:19
Diablo-D3it already works, dude.Dec 24 14:19
gnufreexI call it IGP just to distingishDec 24 14:19
Diablo-D3gnufreex: noDec 24 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Continuing the Traditions of #Kyrgyzstan – in #Cornwall - http://bit.ly/gIqKu3 "creating a #yurt camp where visitors live with nature"Dec 24 14:19
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gnufreexcall it whatever you wantDec 24 14:19
Diablo-D3IGP is _only_ the minature full radeons inside the northbrigeDec 24 14:19
Diablo-D3Fusions split it in half, the CU+ALU on the CPU die, and the video card parts on the northbridgeDec 24 14:19
gnufreexFusion is not designed to run Crossfire.Dec 24 14:20
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Diablo-D3not at all, gnufreexDec 24 14:20
gnufreexIt is desinged for low power, and to not have separate CPUDec 24 14:20
Diablo-D3crossfire is a feature of the driver.Dec 24 14:20
Diablo-D3I could make a laptop that has a fusion + a stand alone high end mobile radeon, and dynamically switch the high end on and off, connecting and disconnecting it from the crossfire chainDec 24 14:21
Diablo-D3and yes, it will work exactly as it shouldDec 24 14:21
gnufreexYeah, that would be fine. but that is not crossfireDec 24 14:22
gnufreexCrossfire is to run both at onceDec 24 14:22
Diablo-D3it WILL run both at onceDec 24 14:22
Diablo-D3its not that faggoty intel/nvidia shit that just switches the twoDec 24 14:22
Diablo-D3I could plug a full sized 6990 in an external pci-e enclosure, plug that enclosure into the express slot in the Fusion laptop, and then crossfire that.Dec 24 14:23
Diablo-D3the APU will do about 5% of the work, yet, still work.Dec 24 14:23
gnufreexI think APU will slow it downDec 24 14:23
gnufreexIt has been like that, alwaysDec 24 14:23
Diablo-D3nope, it wont.Dec 24 14:23
Diablo-D3it dynamically assigns tiles.Dec 24 14:24
gnufreexYes, intel tried to solve that problem with HydraDec 24 14:24
gnufreexGoogle Lucid HydraDec 24 14:24
Diablo-D3yes, Im aware of what hydra is.Dec 24 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @jwildeboer if you have the time, take a look at this video http://ur1.ca/2ntj5 and this article... http://ur1.ca/d39fDec 24 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free Fonts Forever - http://zd.net/els2gK the #Ubuntu #Font family "free to be shared, sold, bundled and built upon"Dec 24 14:24
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Diablo-D3AMD's implementation does infact work.Dec 24 14:24
gnufreexassinging tiles cost resourcesDec 24 14:24
gnufreexAnd it ends up better to switch off smaller gpuDec 24 14:24
Diablo-D3it doesnt cost resources on 6xxx hardware.Dec 24 14:24
Diablo-D3the ONLY use case where shit will go wrong is where you do alternate frames instead of split tilesDec 24 14:25
Diablo-D3and games that require that do NOT optimally function even on matched GPUsDec 24 14:26
Diablo-D3(your game is broken if you require that)Dec 24 14:26
Diablo-D3nvidia also goes apeshit on thatDec 24 14:26
Diablo-D3even worse than radeonsDec 24 14:26
gnufreexMotion blur don't work with alternate framesDec 24 14:26
Diablo-D3I said requires alternate frames, not requires it off.Dec 24 14:27
MinceRgeekingsDec 24 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @glynmoody I rather suspect it's there to make Ubuntu's brand ubiquitous.... ;)Dec 24 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @gnufreex Itanic is only other chip they still cover, but Linux holds most of that market. Only reason to run Windows server is Exchange.Dec 24 14:27
MinceRwhy run exchange?Dec 24 14:28
Ender2070businessDec 24 14:28
Ender2070calander, contactsDec 24 14:28
MinceRthere are saner sw to do thatDec 24 14:29
Ender2070the exchange clone isn't quite as good yetDec 24 14:29
gnufreexZimbra can do itDec 24 14:29
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gnufreexOr OXDec 24 14:29
Ender2070Zimbra is going to kick assDec 24 14:29
Ender2070but its not quite there yetDec 24 14:29
MinceRor kolab, iircDec 24 14:29
gnufreexThere is like 10 FLOSS alternativesDec 24 14:29
Ender2070they don't all plug into LDAPDec 24 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb busy creating !TechBytes torrentsDec 24 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb I forgot to give you op for !tr - should be ok nowDec 24 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mariosk8s/@mariosk8s] Used 2 have respect 4 Sweden 2. ♻ @jwildeboer, @charlesschulz: Poppin' up all around France in support'o !Wikileaks http://yfrog.com/h6lsizjDec 24 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @satipera Even I have never listened to that show and scouting other podcasts is my job. ;) @methoddanDec 24 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ImageMagick has some fantastic stuff in "animate", which outputs videos in *so* many formats. Gotta love Free/libre software!Dec 24 14:32
Ender2070the place where I work is all active directory, windows xp, server 2003, exchangeDec 24 14:32
oiaohmEnder2070: So what you are waiting on is openchange + sogoDec 24 14:33
oiaohmAnd that is waiting on Samba 4 to completeDec 24 14:33
MinceREnder2070: the place where i work sucks tooDec 24 14:33
MinceR:>Dec 24 14:33
Ender2070yeah pretty muchDec 24 14:33
oiaohmIe samba 4 does the active directoryDec 24 14:33
Ender2070i don't think my work sucs thoughDec 24 14:33
oiaohmopenchange does the mapi interface outlook usesDec 24 14:34
Ender2070its easyDec 24 14:34
oiaohmSo outlook thinks sogo is exchangeDec 24 14:34
Ender2070ahhhDec 24 14:34
Ender2070yeah i'll be interested in that stuffDec 24 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @mariosk8s: Used 2 have ... ♻ @jwildeboer, @charlesschulz: Poppin' up all around France in support'o !Wikileaks http://yfrog.com/h6lsizjDec 24 14:34
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Ender2070save us licensing costsDec 24 14:34
Ender2070if we buy outlook, microsoft usually tries to sell exchange licenses with itDec 24 14:34
oiaohmhttp://www.openchange.org/  Nice video.  Ender2070Dec 24 14:35
Diablo-D3backDec 24 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr@:Dec 24 14:35
Ender2070'we noticed you have x exchange licenses and want x copies of outlook'Dec 24 14:35
Ender2070'you'll need x more exchange licenses before we'll sell you outlook'Dec 24 14:35
Diablo-D3Ender2070: see thats the funny partDec 24 14:35
Diablo-D3no one uses outlook with exchangeDec 24 14:36
oiaohmAnd with openchange would be like hand them over.Dec 24 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @fabsh @methoddan to be pedantic, Boycott Novell is still around, it's just a sub-component of !techrights (scope expanded)Dec 24 14:36
oiaohmReally not true.  Diablo-D3Dec 24 14:36
Ender2070we do use outlookDec 24 14:36
Diablo-D3everyone I know thats using exchange is using a blackberry or an android with itDec 24 14:36
Diablo-D3ir an iphoneDec 24 14:36
Diablo-D3*orDec 24 14:36
Ender2070we're using outlook and blackberrysDec 24 14:36
Ender2070not everyone gets a blackberryDec 24 14:37
Diablo-D3no one does their email from their desktopDec 24 14:37
oiaohmblackberrys directly intergrate with sogo without openchange.Dec 24 14:37
Ender2070we do use email on our desktopsDec 24 14:37
Diablo-D3the few that do use some sort of bridgeDec 24 14:38
Ender2070ah yes, we have our exchange linked to a seperate pop3 serverDec 24 14:38
Ender2070lolDec 24 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @schestowitz I knew I was being sloppy there.... ;) @methoddanDec 24 14:39
Ender2070I'm sure the company would love to save money on licensingDec 24 14:39
Ender2070they aren't ms zealots or anythingDec 24 14:40
Ender2070they've just been using something that works for them for a decadeDec 24 14:40
oiaohmhttp://www.zarafa.com/content/editions competition to exchange but to get functionally you still have to pay.  Ender2070Dec 24 14:41
Ender2070what I do find funny is the solution to fixing most of the problemsDec 24 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Editions | www.zarafa.com .::. Size~: 28.99 KBDec 24 14:41
Ender2070rebootingDec 24 14:41
Ender2070or logging off and logging back inDec 24 14:42
oiaohmReally openchange is the grave stone to exchange.Dec 24 14:42
schestowitzEnder2070: mem-leaks?Dec 24 14:42
schestowitzI restarted KDE todayDec 24 14:43
schestowitzUsually once in 2 weeks...Dec 24 14:43
Ender2070probably mem leaksDec 24 14:44
schestowitzkde?Dec 24 14:47
schestowitzThere are ways to vacate occupied memory without restarting the sessionDec 24 14:47
schestowitzKDE restores sessions, but even with how advanced this became and kwallet holding all passwords some things still need to be done manually to return to previous point, esp. if you work with 10 open appsDec 24 14:48
schestowitzA lot of productivity goes down the drain if people power down their PCsDec 24 14:49
schestowitzBetter to switch off all monitors and use CPU scaling whilst awayDec 24 14:49
cubezzzthere's hiberateDec 24 14:49
cubezzzhibernateDec 24 14:50
Ender2070don't need hibernate to do thatDec 24 14:50
cubezzzI just turn off most of my computers when I'm doneDec 24 14:52
cubezzzonly a couple run 24/7Dec 24 14:53
oiaohmHopefully long term my 24/7 will be arm or other low poweredDec 24 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Puppy Games will Open Source the Revenge of the Titans source code, and have asked for license suggestions: http://bit.ly/gZlpHMDec 24 14:54
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cubezzzmakes sense, if energy costs continue to rise...Dec 24 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Where on earth did I put the telly remote? I actually had to use the buttons on the telly to avoid the adverts. #stillcleanDec 24 14:56
oiaohmOk if I could get this cheepish I might be tempted one of these instead of a arm.  http://www.tilera.com/products/platforms/TILEmpower_platformDec 24 14:56
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cubezzzwhen they don't tell you the price on the web, you know it's $$$$Dec 24 14:57
gnufreexoiaohm: Tilera don't have FPUDec 24 14:58
oiaohmgnufreex: what do you think will go into the 8-lane PCI Express 2.0 slotDec 24 14:59
gnufreexHm... no idea :-)Dec 24 14:59
oiaohmLot of GPU do FPU faster than a lot of cpu's.Dec 24 15:00
schestowitz[14:49] <cubezzz> there's hiberateDec 24 15:00
gnufreexI know, but GPUs use 16 lane slotDec 24 15:00
schestowitzBut I need to log IRCDec 24 15:00
cubezzzschestowitz, sure not for your server :)Dec 24 15:01
oiaohmFunny enough all of them will work in 8.  gnufreexDec 24 15:01
schestowitzcubezzz: the server gets it too and yours of courseDec 24 15:01
gnufreexOnly if top edge of slot is cut out oiaohmDec 24 15:01
gnufreexOtherwise won't fitDec 24 15:01
cubezzzthere's wake up on LAN but I never used itDec 24 15:01
schestowitzI also need the RSS feeds to be refreshed/refetched once in  a few hoursDec 24 15:01
oiaohmDo you think I am worried about that.  gnufreexDec 24 15:01
schestowitzSome get new items too quicklyDec 24 15:02
oiaohmAlso the tilera slot is not ended.Dec 24 15:02
oiaohmSo 16 into 8 is not a issue.Dec 24 15:02
MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/838/Dec 24 15:03
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oiaohmgnufreex: tilera was one of the rare ones who worked out that some accelerators people will want to use will be 16 form factor but work on 8Dec 24 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Prezzies!!!! :DDec 24 15:06
gnufreexoiaohm: I think I saw some Tilera CPU on a x16 PCI-E cardDec 24 15:06
gnufreexor x4Dec 24 15:06
gnufreexDon't knowDec 24 15:06
gnufreex But I think they make that now tooDec 24 15:06
gnufreexas cooprocesor for x86 boxDec 24 15:07
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cubezzzI wonder how hot the new video cards getDec 24 15:09
cubezzzthey have temp sensors on the video card yes?Dec 24 15:09
gnufreexyepDec 24 15:09
schestowitzFor a while nowDec 24 15:12
schestowitz!google nvidia linux temperature sensorDec 24 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - NVClock - Nvidia overclocking on Linux! | http://www.linuxhardware.org/nvclock/Dec 24 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - nVidia GF7600GS temperature sensor via i²C? - nV News Forums | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php%3Ft%3D77700Dec 24 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - How to enable temperature monitoring - NVIDIA Forums | http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D2379Dec 24 15:13
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Linux For Tegra (L4T) | Tegra Developer Zone - NVIDIA Developer ... | http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/taxonomy/term/36/0Dec 24 15:13
oiaohmhttp://www.tilera.com/products/platforms/TILEncore_cards  gnufreex  Yes it is possible to double stack.  A Tile Encore in a TilempowerDec 24 15:14
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oiaohmReally wish the next set of Tile platforms with the 100 core in them would be released.Dec 24 15:15
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Ender2070[09:54] <cubezzz> makes sense, if energy costs continue to rise...Dec 24 15:16
Ender2070thanks to the greeningDec 24 15:16
cubezzzyesDec 24 15:16
cubezzzplus a fortune to upgrade those nuclear reactorsDec 24 15:17
gnufreexoiaohm: I tihnk 128-core 64-bit Tile comes out in 2012Dec 24 15:17
gnufreexmetcalf said so on LKMLDec 24 15:17
gnufreexwhen he submited 64-bit Tile patchesDec 24 15:18
gnufreexbut no word on FPU yetDec 24 15:18
gnufreexI just can't stand CPU without FPU.Dec 24 15:18
gnufreexGPU can't replace that.Dec 24 15:18
gnufreexGPU programing model is differentDec 24 15:19
cubezzzI guess you didn't like the XT days then :)Dec 24 15:19
cubezzzand I can remember running 80286Dec 24 15:19
cubezzzeven 386SXDec 24 15:19
gnufreexI was not messing with computers back thenDec 24 15:20
gnufreexI was a kid.Dec 24 15:20
cubezzzI don't even think the first 386's had fpu eitherDec 24 15:21
abeNd-orgDX did, not SXDec 24 15:23
gnufreexI started progaming much later... I think around 2002 or so. And I had first computer in 1998 or so.Dec 24 15:23
abeNd-orgsame with 486sDec 24 15:23
abeNd-organd the early pentiums just had faulty ones built in :)Dec 24 15:23
gnufreexYeah, one with bug.Dec 24 15:24
gnufreex:-)Dec 24 15:24
cubezzzthe older computers just seemed easier to programDec 24 15:25
cubezzznot x86 thoughDec 24 15:26
cubezzzstuff like 6502/6510Dec 24 15:26
gnufreexMIPS assembly is fun. I starting to get it affter playing with emulator for half an hour.Dec 24 15:28
cubezzzwell yeah, I have vice installedDec 24 15:28
cubezzzif I really wanted to hack around on PET/c64 eraDec 24 15:28
gnufreexCompared with x86 asm...Dec 24 15:29
cubezzzsureDec 24 15:29
gnufreexI can't even remember names of half instructions in x86Dec 24 15:29
gnufreexHeck, I forgot them all.Dec 24 15:29
gnufreexit is hopelessDec 24 15:29
cubezzzyou can use warp mode on viceDec 24 15:30
cubezzzrun the cpu 2x or whateverDec 24 15:30
gnufreexI'm downloading SPIM right nowDec 24 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Business top posts of 2010: No.4 The Facebook Generation vs. the Fortune 500 | http://bit.ly/cSqzDYDec 24 15:31
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cubezzzI have some huge BASIC programs I wroteDec 24 15:31
cubezzzbut the disks are lost now, I only have printoutsDec 24 15:31
cubezzzBASIC + assembly actuallyDec 24 15:32
gnufreexBut I think the EduMIPS64 is best one.Dec 24 15:32
gnufreexSPIM only emulates R3000Dec 24 15:32
cubezzzwhy not just buy a R3000? or are they rare?Dec 24 15:33
MinceRx86 assembly didn't seem so difficultDec 24 15:33
gnufreexhmm... I think I had CPU... without moboDec 24 15:33
MinceRsure, PDP assembly seemed friendlier :>Dec 24 15:34
cubezzzan IBM 4381 emu would be interestingDec 24 15:34
cubezzznot sure if that exists thoughDec 24 15:34
MinceRi prefer having a compiler generate code for RISC or EPIC :>Dec 24 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Got money for our new TV, !Dylan's Christmas album and a MX Anywhere mouse! Ace! I so needed a new mouse. My old one died a slow death...Dec 24 15:36
gnufreexI don't know much about EPIC, but it seems to me that it is anoter overdesigned crap.Dec 24 15:36
gnufreexItanium that is.Dec 24 15:36
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gnufreexI don't know any other EPIC.Dec 24 15:37
gnufreexExcept FAILDec 24 15:37
gnufreex:-)Dec 24 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] This mouse seriously works on a glass table! Amazing! OoDec 24 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] And I gotta say, this !Dylan Xmas album is cool. Xmas songs are usually way too kitschy for me, but Dylan can pull that off... :)Dec 24 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @HDInstitute: Dec 24, 1814 - Treaty of Ghent ends the War of 1812. Coming in March-a Map & Timeline of the War! http://ow.ly/3tjUiDec 24 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TorontoPolice: RT @CBCToronto: Toronto RIDE project nabs 51 drunk drivers http://bit.ly/grlQ7yDec 24 15:44
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MinceRit seems to me that EPIC enables offloading the design of which instructions to run parallel to each other to the compilerDec 24 15:47
MinceRwhich would be a lot more efficient than working it out in runtime in the CPUDec 24 15:47
gnufreexYeah, I am (re)reading that now.Dec 24 15:48
MinceRthen again, putting a lot of cores in a CPU might supersede superscalar architecturesDec 24 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OMFG only 366 days till ChristmasDec 24 15:49
gnufreexMost interesting thing now is AMD bulldozerDec 24 15:49
gnufreexIt has modules of two cores, and some stuff is sharedDec 24 15:50
gnufreexSome says it tries to make two cores work as one.Dec 24 15:50
gnufreexI want to se how that worksDec 24 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Just finished talking to my dad, who resides in Cyprus. My relatives are split on Gregorian vs Julian Calendar ChristmasDec 24 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jonny 5 is a proprietary lobbyist working for Google "No disassemble!" "More input!" #humour #shortcircuitDec 24 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #uk thinking of switvhing from GMT to CET - WTF???Dec 24 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Staat in de @tijd met artikel over @iRail en open-source appdevelopment (laatste bijlage vanachter)Dec 24 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if Santa had a geotracking smartphone he'd have a long night of being ambushed by older kids with snowballsDec 24 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ninapaley Mimi and Eunice: Please ignore this SPECIAL BONUS HOLIDAY CARTOON! http://ur1.ca/2nump >> thanks Nina, I get it *sigh*Dec 24 15:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] One thing I like about the Hellidays <yup, stole that from @ninapaley> is the idea that it's a time of year you can say "I appreciate you"Dec 24 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And I have to really say that I appreciate the people I've discovered on the Identiverse & the twitterverse a great deal ... so justincase..Dec 24 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...i don't see you over the next 3 days... *big*hugz* :DDec 24 16:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What If Linux ruled the world ? http://bit.ly/fPuf0Y Really, a dream that I long for the day it will happenDec 24 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] E se o Linux dominasse o mundo ? http://bit.ly/fPuf0Y Um sonho que eu espero um dia se torne realidadeDec 24 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Celebrate with sharing" ... here's my "Season's Greetngs" blog post & the closest to a card I've managed this year: http://ur1.ca/2nurxDec 24 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Byron Sonne & Bradley Manning are locked up for real "Hellidays" without having been convicted #G20 !wikileaks #freebyron #freebradleyDec 24 16:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: rt @ninapaley Mimi and Eunice: Please ignore this SPECIAL BONUS HOLIDAY CARTOON! http://ur1.ca/2numpDec 24 16:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Please ignore this SPECIAL BONUS HOLIDAY CARTOON! « Mimi and Eunice .::. Size~: 63.62 KBDec 24 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Didn't know Nina was on Twitter - thanks for retweeting her!Dec 24 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: Byron Sonne & Bradley Manning R locked up 4 "Hellidays" without being convicted #G20 !wikileaks #freebyron #freebradleyDec 24 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Hell, Byron Sonne & Bradley Manning haven't even been charged. #G20 !wikileaks #freebyronDec 24 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] My Christmas gift to Windows Users - Computer Security Suggestions For #Microsoft #Windows Users: https://bit.ly/g7DAHS #compsecDec 24 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Happy christmas to all of you - http://j.mp/fonUa0Dec 24 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] One of @jhibbets Open*Life editor's picks of 2010: So you think you can open source | http://bit.ly/9iCbkSDec 24 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I'm pretty sure Byron has been charged, punitivelt denied bail, but Bradley not under US Military lawDec 24 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: A Chhattisgarh court condemns the good doctor to life imprisonment. Let this brazen injustice not go unchallenged http://bit....Dec 24 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Campaign for Justice and Peace-TN’s Statement on conviction of Dr Binayak Sen http://bit.ly/grBnCjDec 24 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Sign Petition: Indian Justice Has Failed Dr Binayak Sen http://bit.ly/dZdyMpDec 24 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: AISA 2 Protest Calls for Protest Demonstration at Chhatisgarh Bhawan on 27th Dec at 2.30 pm!! http://bit.ly/haYbZf #Binayak_SenDec 24 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Nina Paley is one of my !copyfight heroesDec 24 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "We are Ka-tet. We are one from many." - Roland Deschain #comingsoon #DarkTowerDec 24 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If you haven't #HumbleBundled yet you SHOULD! ***Fight DRM*** rah rah rah ... now ta! :DDec 24 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Zalig kerstfeest! Ik heb mijzelf dit jaar op een heuse kerstboom getrakteerd. Het is hier weer heel erg knus, al zeg ik het zelf...Dec 24 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @laurelrusswurm If you haven't #HumbleBundled yet you SHOULD! ***Fight DRM*** rah rah rah ... now ta! :DDec 24 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "Screw you and the sleigh you flew in on" - Santa arrives in the Dark Tower and meets Zoltan #DarkTower #humourDec 24 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @rms Merry xmas Mr. Stallman!Dec 24 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[acid/@acid] RT @wikileaks: UN statement on !Wikileaks | http://is.gd/jgFHJDec 24 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A World-Beating Report on Global Open Source - http://bit.ly/ef39mb a fab, free resource - don't miss if you're interesting in this areaDec 24 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Lekker ontspannen kunnen doen wat ik zelf wil. Voel mij helemaal niet eenzaam en zielig, in tegendeel, houw van de rust en de stilte ;-)Dec 24 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (corrected typo in last psot courtesy of @DanOnymity)Dec 24 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Making Videos With Animate http://bit.ly/eHewnJ in case you ever want to automate video-makingDec 24 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FF @ubuntunews @lnxwalt280 @fsf @mairin @ml2mst @lxoliva & merry xmas allDec 24 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm My bad - I missed that part on the page. I'm thinking hauling my poor wrecked body down to the court.Dec 24 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happiness doesn't increase with growing wealth of nations, finds study http://bit.ly/grUcgv you only live once, so be happy, don't hoardDec 24 17:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Happiness doesn't increase with growing wealth of nations, finds study | Science | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 184.45 KBDec 24 17:04
schestowitzHeh: https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/18350428433424384Dec 24 17:04
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: #FF @schestowitz the pro-competition, anti-Microsoft caped crusader, and sometimes ninja.Dec 24 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Warning - @Eugenauef97 is a spammer. Visit it's Twitter page, and a script on the page will make you a follower.Dec 24 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Wikileaks already helps members of the military oppose the invasion and withdraw from unneeded wars http://bit.ly/dMBq33 #peace !wlDec 24 17:09
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schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/15/nigeria-dick-cheney-plea-halliburtonDec 24 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @climagic: xmlstarlet and xml-twig-tools are programs you can also use for doing xml aware operations from the command line.Dec 24 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Bing is a "decision engine" in that Microsoft decides for you what you are not permitted to findDec 24 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Now I know what to expect tomorrow ;-( http://xkcd.com/838/Dec 24 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bradley spends Christmas in a cell for helping to end unjust wars. He also spent his birthday there last week. Support: http://bit.ly/ehY68NDec 24 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz Bradley spends Christmas in a cell for helping to end unjust wars. He also spent his birthday there last week. Support: ...Dec 24 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @glynmoody: A World-Beating Report on Global Open Source - http://bit.ly/ef39mb a fab, free resource - don't miss if you're interesting...Dec 24 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #tips: ♺ @schestowitz: Making Videos With Animate http://bit.ly/eHewnJ in case you ever want to automate video-makingDec 24 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Christmas starts with cakes and kisses :D x0x0x0 all around!Dec 24 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice commentary by Richard Dawkins about joke notion of the "original sin" - http://ur1.ca/2nwko 3fbDec 24 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Richard Dawkins | A shameful Thought for the Day | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 223.6 KBDec 24 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Government 2010 - A new and better Open Source Initiative | http://bit.ly/aic3zEDec 24 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TanyaHuff: Seasonal dilema: Write now, stuff stocking later? Stuff stocking now, write later? There'll be rum later, best to write now.Dec 24 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Just found an interesting site - New Democratic Party Socialist Caucus - http://ndpsocialists.ca/ #cdnpoliDec 24 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Christmas Techeye Bible Reading - The Book of ARM: http://bit.ly/hLBsbx #ARM #Windows #Linux #MicrosoftDec 24 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @harishpillay Looking forward to Dawkins critique of Islam instead of his constant fixation with this soft target.Dec 24 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Hoping that the new Narnia movie is worth seeing in the theater.Dec 24 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I'm watching the making-of Madagascar with my son: they say "#proprietary" like they're really proud of it !fsf !fs !gnuDec 24 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Bing is a "decision engine" in that Microsoft decides for you what you are not permitted to find. I would call it a censorship engine.Dec 24 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Business top posts of 2010: No.3 - Does your organization need a "no policy" policy? | http://bit.ly/bw8fRSDec 24 18:16
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amarsh04Voyage of the Dawn Treader was quite a good watchDec 24 18:24
*amarsh04 remembers the AMD/Dreamworks "Over The Hedge" promotionsDec 24 18:25
gnufreexI just now saw two updates on Groklaw article. PJ finaly calls Novell what it is: Community Rat http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101219121621828Dec 24 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz Let me remind you that we don't know that Bradley Manning is the person behind the leak. See: https://bit.ly/ftiis1Dec 24 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 Regressive Conservatives would have been more like it. #cdnpoliDec 24 18:29
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amarsh04nearly done recompiling kernel 2.6.37-rc7-git2 for i386Dec 24 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 As to the rich getting welfare, prove it. Never seen that happen, unless someone was breaking the law #cdnpoliDec 24 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] RT @morpheuz ♻ @ralsina #kde 's plasmoids got name-dropped in a Yahoo NBA blog. Really! http://yhoo.it/gz8H3VDec 24 18:31
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amarsh04having an AMD64 for cross-compiling the Linux kernel has helped stretched out how long I can keep using the old machineDec 24 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Unsigned letter holds the key to Binayak Sen case http://bit.ly/fmaqV9 Video 2 prove it is planted, got rejected, http://bit....Dec 24 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Unsigned letter holds the key to Binayak Sen case http://bit.ly/fmaqV9 Video 2 prove it is planted, got regected, http://bit....Dec 24 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @PathbholaPathik: @barkhadalal binayak sen was not a terrorirst! he was a genuine man who REALLY worked for tribal welfare!Dec 24 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @preeti86: Dont think it is a fair justice for Dr Binayak Sen. State oppression at its worst face again. Shameful Democrac...Dec 24 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @anjakovacs: Who is Dr #Binayak Sen? http://bit.ly/fnR9TJ Human rights defender given life sentence for sedition and trea...Dec 24 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer #uk thinking of switvhing from GMT to CET - WTF???Dec 24 18:41
gnufreextxdv:huh?Dec 24 18:41
txdvso many messages from TechrightsBot-tr, my entire 17" screen is full of textDec 24 18:42
*amarsh04 recommends a 1920*1080 monitorDec 24 18:42
MinceRmy 17" screen is 1920x1200Dec 24 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @theshade14 sudo is not for nice guys http://xkcd.com/838/ !linuxDec 24 18:42
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txdvits xmas, amarsh04 buy me oneDec 24 18:43
gnufreexI have 1920x1080Dec 24 18:43
amarsh04with dvi-d input, text is sharp, and monitor is lighter and lower power than the CRT it replacedDec 24 18:43
txdvwell, the 17" belongs to my mothers laptopDec 24 18:44
amarsh04txdv, mine's an LG flatron e2240v - what sold me was the good contrast and warranty, also has vga/dvi-d/hdmi inputDec 24 18:44
MinceRmine belongs to my laptop :)Dec 24 18:44
MinceR("mobile workstation")Dec 24 18:44
txdvyeah, that was the idea when my father bought this laptopDec 24 18:45
txdvi personally got a 12" which i hook up to a 19" monitorDec 24 18:45
MinceR:>Dec 24 18:47
amarsh04this monitor is shared between two desktops with dvi-d output and a blu-ray player with hdmi outputDec 24 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !es !wikileaks !castellano desde españa no se te olvida #bradley #manning espero que hoy no lo pases muy mal.Dec 24 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Indamixx 2, Music-Focused Tablet Powered by Linux, Unveils Beta Program (Create Digital Music) http://lwn.net/Articles/421032/rssDec 24 18:47
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amarsh04and the last blu-ray disk I bought was AUD$16Dec 24 18:48
MinceRi have a 22" monitor hooked up to my laptopDec 24 18:49
MinceRbut now i'm typing on a 10" netbook insteadDec 24 18:49
txdveverything < 12 is from my pov too smallDec 24 18:50
txdv"thats what she said"Dec 24 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xtarwars/@xtarwars] !es !wikileaks !castellano desde españa no se te olvida #bradley #manning espero que hoy no lo pases muy mal. #freebradleyDec 24 18:51
*amarsh04 is at the reading glasses stage and this monitor is far better on the eyes than the crt it replacedDec 24 18:51
amarsh04txdv, so you are in Lithuania?Dec 24 18:52
txdvyeahDec 24 18:52
txdvwhy do you ask?Dec 24 18:52
amarsh04just looked up the netblock you were on... good to have people from all around the worldDec 24 18:53
amarsh04most unusual I ever saw in irc was someone who was in chat from CubaDec 24 18:53
txdvyou mean from the rest of the world, since you live in the US :DDec 24 18:53
amarsh04I'm in AustraliaDec 24 18:54
txdvo okDec 24 18:54
txdvfar away and pretty warm nowDec 24 18:54
amarsh04don't know any people from Lithuania personally, but our city's orchestra conductor is from EstoniaDec 24 18:55
amarsh0419 C at the moment (5:25 am)Dec 24 18:55
txdvpretty cold for australia, right?Dec 24 18:56
txdvwe had -19 3 days agoDec 24 18:56
txdvhave you ever had snow in australia?Dec 24 18:58
cubezzzI wish it was 19C here :)Dec 24 18:58
txdvI like it when its colder then -10, the weatherDec 24 18:59
txdvgpDec 24 18:59
cubezzz-4C is cold enough for meDec 24 18:59
amarsh04well, maximum temperatures during the next week here in Adelaide range from 22 C to 37 C. Over the course of a year, maxima range from about 11 C to about 41 C and minima from 3 C to 30 CDec 24 18:59
txdvit depends, in aachen, germany, where i usually live, the humidity is always very highDec 24 19:00
txdv-1 with high humidity is freaking coldDec 24 19:00
amarsh04not humid here most of the timeDec 24 19:00
cubezzzRel Humidity 68.1% hereDec 24 19:00
amarsh04and even better, when it's colder, it's not windyDec 24 19:01
amarsh0448.9% here nowDec 24 19:01
txdvif you have -19 it just dries out the air, so the felt temperature is lower ^^Dec 24 19:02
cubezzzonce it gets down to -20C I don't go outDec 24 19:02
txdv:DDec 24 19:02
txdvin lithuania the schools close only at -20Dec 24 19:02
txdvand you have to go work even if you got -20Dec 24 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/421033/rssDec 24 19:04
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schestowitz[18:26] <gnufreex> I just now saw two updates on Groklaw article. PJ finaly calls Novell what it is: Community Rat http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101219121621828Dec 24 19:20
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schestowitzI don't see thatDec 24 19:20
gnufreex"And the problem is, not to put too fine a point on it, how to deal with Community Rats, corporate or otherwise, taking money from Microsoft and then subtly deflecting the community away from its goals."Dec 24 19:21
schestowitzOh, I see nowDec 24 19:21
schestowitz"how to deal with Community Rats, corporate or otherwise,"Dec 24 19:21
gnufreexYeah, de icaza fits there.Dec 24 19:22
amarsh04back in a few, kexec-ing into new kernelDec 24 19:22
gnufreexHe admited that Microosft is funding him Novell;s work on OOXMLDec 24 19:22
*amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)Dec 24 19:22
gnufreex". Microsoft is funding our OpenOffice team to develop open source code that will improve the OOXML..."Dec 24 19:24
gnufreexschestowitz: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Dec-21.htmlDec 24 19:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: For your OOXML Conspiracy Theories - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 20.64 KBDec 24 19:24
schestowitzMiguel de RaadtDec 24 19:25
schestowitzConspiracy Theories... Groklaw... 9/11... tinfaoilDec 24 19:25
schestowitz*tinfoilDec 24 19:25
ThistleWebschestowitz: any idea when _Goblin is next able or planning to record? I know he's off to the relies over christmas but he's taking the netbook with him, I wonder if he's planning on being able to record an ep on the road or notDec 24 19:26
txdvleave icaza aloneDec 24 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Rerports that tomorrow is Christmas in many countries seem well founded. So merry Christmas to all if that's your case.Dec 24 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] diegocalleja started to fill http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_37 #linux #kernel #2637 #newbiesDec 24 19:27
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schestowitzThistleWeb: I  hope he can, I haven't spoken to him in a whileDec 24 19:28
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txdvhave you evern spoken with icaza?Dec 24 19:29
txdvwithout holding a cross and shouting "demon, burn in hell!!" ?Dec 24 19:30
ThistleWebtxdv: lol you watch too much tvDec 24 19:30
txdv:DDec 24 19:31
txdvactually i dont watch tv at allDec 24 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education top 10 posts of 2010: No. 9 - Moodle driving jobs in education | http://bit.ly/iinLsODec 24 19:31
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ThistleWebthem was funniesDec 24 19:31
ThistleWebI almost laughedDec 24 19:31
txdvalol, almost lolDec 24 19:31
ThistleWebI say "almost" because it's not always easy to tell if you're having a laugh when you say them, or whether you're in "smear mode"Dec 24 19:32
ThistleWebI chose to treat it as a jokeDec 24 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSNBC is not a Democratic/liberal news organization. It is a pro-corporate organization. http://bit.ly/edpl0g It also daemonises !wikileaksDec 24 19:32
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ThistleWebpersonally, when I hold things and shout at people, I plan it out a bit more, like holding a flask of warm coffee if it's cold, so I can be there for the long haul, and I also think of more inventive insultsDec 24 19:33
ThistleWebit's just not geek cred to start a confrontation and having to nip off because you get thirstyDec 24 19:34
ThistleWebforward planning is the keyDec 24 19:35
ThistleWebalso start it near a bathroom, so you and your opponant can have an easy pee breakDec 24 19:35
*schestowitz never shoutsDec 24 19:36
ThistleWebI'd also prepare my insults in the dark speech too, it always sounds cooler if it sounds like it comes from Mordor itselfDec 24 19:36
schestowitz[19:35] <ThistleWeb> also start it near a bathroom, so you and your opponant can have an easy pee breakDec 24 19:36
schestowitzThat doesn't sound rightDec 24 19:36
ThistleWebthe only stuff I know in the dark speech is the "one ring to rule them all" lineDec 24 19:37
ThistleWebschestowitz: lol yeahDec 24 19:37
ThistleWebI'm talking about planning for enduranceDec 24 19:37
ThistleWebcan't just start something that ends quicklyDec 24 19:37
ThistleWebany endurance has to take account of the bladderDec 24 19:37
amarsh04only *nix people I have met were Dennis Ritchie and Jon "Maddog" HallDec 24 19:37
ThistleWebit's much more original that waving a couple of planks of wood nailed together at him and throwing some old cliche about the devil, and hell etcDec 24 19:38
*ThistleWeb wouldn't want to sound like a hackneyed tv characterDec 24 19:39
ThistleWebya have to be original, and humorous to be noticed these days, it could be your 15mins of fameDec 24 19:40
ThistleWebit also helps your credibility if you spell check your placard before going outDec 24 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jonobacon Merry Christmas, mate! :)Dec 24 19:41
amarsh04recently when I was speaking at a public hearing of the Australian Communications and Media Authority, I struck a chord with the moderators by use of true humour about where people like to claim they live in a city (everyone in the best suburb, no-one in the worst)Dec 24 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Having a lovely Ben Riach with dad... #singlemaltDec 24 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] tip of the day: it helps your credibility if you spell check your placard before turning up for the #protestDec 24 19:42
ThistleWebextra geek cred for having your placards in multi language, and if your audience is a hardcore geek, one of them should be binaryDec 24 19:43
amarsh04was amazing learning from the speakers representing the deaf, blind and deaf/blind peopleDec 24 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US offers Bradley Manning a plea bargain in return for testimony against Assange http://wlcentral.org/node/646 #torture tactics - a new lowDec 24 19:46
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amarsh04if you find it difficult dealing with your telephone company or internet service provider, imagine what it's like for the deaf and blindDec 24 19:46
ThistleWebpeople with all their senses do take a lot for grantedDec 24 19:47
MinceRwhy do deaf people deal with telcos? :>Dec 24 19:47
amarsh04teletypes, textingDec 24 19:47
schestowitzWhy do temco$ deal with deaf people?Dec 24 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Is it? Can you elaborate?Dec 24 19:47
amarsh04I realise now that I used to take reading fine print without reading glasses for grantedDec 24 19:48
schestowitzIn Russia, the fine prints read YOUDec 24 19:48
amarsh04in .au, it's very difficult to determine if a product contains palm oil by reading the label - you have to look for "vegetable oil" then the mix of saturated/mono/poly-unsaturated fatsDec 24 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 210 dents!Dec 24 19:52
schestowitzOh, the patents spammer is backDec 24 19:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/searchasyoutype/status/18389125312806912Dec 24 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr@searchasyoutype: @schestowitz @chriscoons The American dream, make $Billions and get praised by President Obama http://wwwery.com/?p=10694Dec 24 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Breaking News: !Wikileaks Investigation turns to Boston http://bit.ly/eh9no8 US Army offered Manning friend cash to "infiltrate Wikileaks".Dec 24 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Google Instant is a "Copyright Infringement" by itself, says Author  |  WWWery .::. Size~: 59.86 KBDec 24 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking News: Wikileaks Investigation turns to Boston | News & Perspectives on Homeland Security .::. Size~: 30.19 KBDec 24 19:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/searchasyoutype/status/18389990446731264Dec 24 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr@searchasyoutype: @schestowitz Easy as stealing candy from a child? http://wwwery.com/?p=10694Dec 24 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Google Instant is a "Copyright Infringement" by itself, says Author  |  WWWery .::. Size~: 59.86 KBDec 24 19:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ender2070/status/18394206124900353Dec 24 19:58
TechrightsBot-tr@ender2070: @_the_mad_hatter look at the bailouts, the execs got bonusesDec 24 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sabwanda/@sabwanda] wish u merry x-mas+ a leaksful 2011 !wikileaks !piratenpartei !piratenberlinDec 24 20:01
gnufreexThat guy is a patent troll.Dec 24 20:02
gnufreexOr idiot.Dec 24 20:02
gnufreexThat article says he invented that in 1989Dec 24 20:02
gnufreexPatents are 20 yearsDec 24 20:02
gnufreexGodbyeDec 24 20:02
gnufreex*goodbyeDec 24 20:03
gnufreexHe even got one year as bonus.Dec 24 20:03
gnufreexThat is maybe the reason why Google didn't make Instant search soonerDec 24 20:03
gnufreexThey might have waited his patent to expireDec 24 20:03
schestowitzI doubt itDec 24 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not supporting conquest is now a crime. On what basis? No worries, torture (physical/psychological) manufactures false testimonies.Dec 24 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rms Urgent: boycott Bank of America > !wikileaks prepares new leaks which show corruption at Bank of America. Money is not safe there.Dec 24 20:06
schestowitzDoes he have a patent at all?Dec 24 20:06
schestowitzHe messages me in twitter like 7 timesDec 24 20:06
schestowitzJust a form of protest to strangersDec 24 20:06
gnufreexOn re-reading, it seems he don't haveDec 24 20:06
schestowitzMr...... "searchasyoutype"Dec 24 20:06
gnufreexHe want to block Google with copyrightDec 24 20:07
schestowitzOne of the bozos who think "INNOVA~" is some welfare programDec 24 20:07
gnufreex"Here’s is his open letter, with proof, talking how Google not only infringed his copyrights (intellectual property), but has also patented it as its own technology."Dec 24 20:07
schestowitzI thought X, I don't know anyone else who wrote about it, therefore I 'own' XDec 24 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A Christmas Eve Wine Release (v1.3.10): There's the release of Wine 1.3.10 on this Christmas Eve for those with ... http://bit.ly/i2e7ikDec 24 20:07
gnufreexI don't know how this can infringe copyrightsDec 24 20:07
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gnufreexI bet Google didn't even write it in same languageDec 24 20:08
schestowitzgnufreex: neither does heDec 24 20:08
schestowitzHe decided it's unjustDec 24 20:08
schestowitzNow trying some use of some law to make it soDec 24 20:08
schestowitzWho does he think he is? Lieberman?Dec 24 20:08
schestowitzLaws are written by those in power, to serve those in powerDec 24 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @aseigo: ♻ @ralsina #kde 's plasmoids got name-dropped in a Yahoo NBA blog. Really! http://yhoo.it/gz8H3V < nice :P !elotroladoDec 24 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video: J.R. Smith joins Team 360-Degree Layup - Ball Don't Lie  - NBA  - Yahoo! Sports .::. Size~: 167.84 KBDec 24 20:09
gnufreexNow.... he might be able to make Google's patent to go awayDec 24 20:10
gnufreexThat would be niceDec 24 20:10
gnufreexBecause he might have prior artDec 24 20:10
gnufreexBut It seems he wants something.Dec 24 20:10
gnufreexmore than that.Dec 24 20:10
schestowitzhttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/58c5b723488c1187#Dec 24 20:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    comp.os.linux.advocacy |   Google Groups    .::. Size~: 29.14 KBDec 24 20:10
gnufreexWhat's that?Dec 24 20:11
schestowitzWants me to block himDec 24 20:11
schestowitzAnd others tooDec 24 20:11
schestowitzNo idea why he even keeps pounding on my accountDec 24 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "Amazon.com recommends 'Civil Disobedience'" ROFL. #bestemaileverDec 24 20:14
schestowitzSome stupid troll posted a 'video' of me.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/555ea3b705c58b67#Dec 24 20:15
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gnufreexIt wont play with gnashDec 24 20:20
gnufreexGnash seems to only run youtubeDec 24 20:21
gnufreexother sites won'tDec 24 20:21
gnufreexBut it plays youtube better than flashDec 24 20:21
Diablo-D3hahahahDec 24 20:21
Diablo-D3its elf yourselfDec 24 20:21
gnufreexhuh?Dec 24 20:22
Diablo-D3gnufreex: one of the stupidest things on the internetDec 24 20:22
amarsh04internationalisation of Debian: "The press/-publicity team has noticed the lack of a native English  speaker in the press team, which is most needed for embargoed press releases. Paul Wise has kindly volunteered to help and has now been added." http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/12/msg00004.htmlDec 24 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Upside about family: they know exactly what you want for gravmass eve #orval http://ur1.ca/2nz2uDec 24 20:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: http://file.status.net/i/identica/pietercolpaert-20101224T202140-aq2gwk6.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.51 KBDec 24 20:22
Diablo-D3gnufreex: basically, two professional dancers dressed up as elves, and you upload photos to replace their heads withDec 24 20:23
gnufreexohDec 24 20:23
gnufreexI think I saw that somewhereDec 24 20:23
Diablo-D3its the dumbest fucking thing everDec 24 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Last minute gift ideas | http://bit.ly/eoHpuZ #opensource #opengiving #holidaysDec 24 20:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last minute open giving ideas | opensource.com .::. Size~: 40.88 KBDec 24 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Crookes, RIAA, MPAA, ICE — 'Linking Is Publishing' http://ur1.ca/2nzap !wlDec 24 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crookes, RIAA, MPAA, ICE — 'Linking Is Publishing' - Slashdot .::. Size~: 130.22 KBDec 24 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "It's clear whose side the police and the state are on: the rich, against everyone else." -- @rms http://bit.ly/gK3ByXDec 24 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2010: September - December Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 639.45 KBDec 24 20:39
schestowitzhttp://www.badscience.net/2010/02/obvious-quacks-the-tip-of-a-scary-medical-iceberg/Dec 24 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Merry Grav-mass! ¡Feliz gravidad!Dec 24 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: @sudhanwa Hope you will unfollow all newspapers by tomorrowDec 24 20:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] want to install a second system (along !kubuntu) on my lappy. what's it gonna be - !debian testing or !mint Debian Edition? !kde user hereDec 24 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ”Child pornography is great” --Johan Schlüter (using child pornography to crack down on open society)Dec 24 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Twitter owes Bill Barol $62k for payment after deleting 4000 of his tweets http://ur1.ca/2nzfo Viva la Identica!Dec 24 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Twitter owes me $62,000 - Bill Barol - Buzz, Boom & Sizzle - Forbes .::. Size~: 94.87 KBDec 24 20:46
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/17/paedophile-priest-dublin-report-vaticanDec 24 20:48
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*_goblin (~goblin@genkt-051-065.t-mobile.co.uk) has joined #techrightsDec 24 20:49
_goblinHi allDec 24 20:49
_goblinmerry xmas.....happy holidays etc etc etcDec 24 20:49
amarsh04hi _goblin ... 20 C and the lightest possible rain here - better than excessive heatDec 24 20:51
_goblinit feels around -10 hereDec 24 20:53
ThistleWebo/Dec 24 20:54
_goblinhi!Dec 24 20:54
_goblinme and the whole family are over at parents now....so im netbooking for the next couple of daysDec 24 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @tekk this is rysiek of !gnu. resistance is futile. you will be liberated.Dec 24 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Merry Christmas! http://ubuntuone.com/p/VFU/Dec 24 21:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] What To Look Forward To In 2011: As a gift to Phoronix readers this Christmas, here's a sneak preview on what yo... http://bit.ly/hyDa2DDec 24 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] You are not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported to the Santa Claus: http://xkcd.com/838/Dec 24 21:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Incident .::. Size~: 8.09 KBDec 24 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Meus sinceros pêsames http://bit.ly/eqh3k9 Talvez não fosse um homem público 100%, mas, para seus familiares e amigos, devia ser bom homemDec 24 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "To have a government of the people, for the people, and by the people, well...you have to start with informing the people." !q masterwit /.Dec 24 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: #Mozilla improves sync setup and WebGL in #Firefox 4 beta 8 http://goo.gl/YxY3yDec 24 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Somebody found my blog with the terms "rms news mark suckerberg" MISSION ACCOMPLISHEDDec 24 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Orestes Quércia - Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre .::. Size~: 84.96 KBDec 24 21:16
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Ender2070Firefox 4, the same thing as Chrome 4Dec 24 21:16
Ender2070LOLDec 24 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: #Shotwell 0.8 adds #YouTube uploading, folder watching, wallpaper slideshows, more http://goo.gl/vt9HkDec 24 21:17
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Diablo-D3but isnt chrome up to like 7 now?Dec 24 21:18
Ender2070firefox is slow at stealing ideasDec 24 21:19
Ender2070and actually they are up to 8 nowDec 24 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Board 0.1.0 http://goo.gl/LAy3mDec 24 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !Kubuntu: KDE Platform, Workspaces and Applications 4.6 RC 1 Available http://goo.gl/kqVpvDec 24 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Listening to the great Samvel Yervinyan....Dec 24 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Cassini finds oxygen-carbon dioxide atmosphere on Saturn's moon Rhea http://ur1.ca/2o0ah !science !bioDec 24 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] RT @trashbird1240 Cassini finds oxygen-carbon dioxide atmosphere on Saturn's moon Rhea http://ur1.ca/2o0ah !science !bioDec 24 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cablegate is a 'smart' mirror of the !wl cablegate database that knows how to announce itself to other 'smart' mirrors http://ur1.ca/2o0e6Dec 24 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] Nice @eff article on "traitorware": http://ur1.ca/2nrd1 (via @mlinksva) -- should advocate free software tho.Dec 24 21:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What is Traitorware? | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.33 KBDec 24 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Oh by gosh by golly: finally bringing out Frank Sinatra's Jolly Christmas album ;)Dec 24 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] To everyone I know, chat with, read......Seasons greetings...happy holidays....Dec 24 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The best description of the government ever http://ur1.ca/2o1dvDec 24 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @charlesschulz Guessing that wasn't Plan A.Dec 24 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @evan Jeez. I need to research all those terms now... :)Dec 24 23:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] The first step to wisdom is to know what you do not know: "We are not yet able to translate from Maori into English." -- Google TranslateDec 24 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2010 Trend Watch Update: Social Networking #Privacy https://eff.org/r.v8VDec 24 23:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF 2010 victories made into 8-bit style animation. Level 1: EFF v. the Copyright Troll. https://w2.eff.org/victory/Dec 24 23:59
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