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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] an email on kde-promo: "I'd like to say that making this video and working with kde community was one of the best experiences in my life." | Dec 27 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "I found people which are happy, helpful, inspirating and make me feel like I've been working here since I was born." | Dec 27 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @jankusanagi: I try not to act brainwashed myself, but "minimum sense of reality" seems to equal "free software user" | Dec 27 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] that's what it's all about. seeing one person get touched like that makes up for all the other silly things we go through to get there. | Dec 27 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rysiek yes, compiling _everything_ is a massive undertaking in terms of disk and CPU time. it's a prolific community. | Dec 27 00:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] @rysiek then add in the best KDE apps from e.g. extra gear and it gets even bigger :) i keep ~40GB of disk space for my source+builds. | Dec 27 00:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] I'm okay with NBC-Comcast as long as the Kardashians will not be harmed ♺ @rms: Urgent: stop the Comcast/NBC merger http://ur1.ca/2ofk3 | Dec 27 00:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] which is 2x the amount of disk i had on in total on my laptop and desktop systems when i first started on KDE :) | Dec 27 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @aseigo hah... well, I just moved my KDE builds folder to a 1.5TiB hd. should handle that, methinks. ;) | Dec 27 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Now listening to Dr. Kiki's Science Hour: "Let's Go Retro" http://twit.tv/dksh70 | Dec 27 00:43 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Dec 27 01:04 |
| Ziomatrix | night | Dec 27 01:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Tell @FCC: Block the merger of Comcast and NBC Universal. http://bit.ly/gEd3po | Dec 27 01:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Corporations trying to muzzle whistle-blowers. Fight back: http://t.co/yFoderf via @demandprogress | Dec 27 01:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Protect Whistleblowers at the Big Banks! | Demand Progress .::. Size~: 9.48 KB | Dec 27 01:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Arguing with my trunk build, may be time to rebuild !kde from scratch... meh. | Dec 27 01:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Also seems like I'm copletely locked out of my server. Stupid IO loads :| | Dec 27 02:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Business top posts of 2010: No.2 - Darwin meets Dilbert: Applying the Law of Two Feet to your next meeting | http://bit.ly/cy5gpS | Dec 27 02:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Darwin meets Dilbert: Applying the Law of Two Feet to your next meeting | opensource.com .::. Size~: 69.26 KB | Dec 27 02:06 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 27 02:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's taken a while to get used to the new clock shadow in the panel. it's not as SHARP! and at first that bugged me. now, i like it. | Dec 27 02:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it can be frustrating that even when you know about human foibles (e.g. we are instinctively resistant to change), they still afflict us. | Dec 27 02:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] more good tidings by email, but this time: a bug report! was a quick fix in a krunner plugin, turns out the reporter is a gcc hacker ... | Dec 27 02:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] "Awesome! Many thanks! Let me know if there is any g++ diagnostic issue that annoys you and I will do my best to fix it." | Dec 27 02:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's like rubbing a lamp and a genie popping out. only this genie does compilers. whee. ;) | Dec 27 02:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice and cogent commentary of the banking system vs wikileaks. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26sun3.html #fb | Dec 27 02:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Switched my last project to !Git. No more #Subversion for me http://ur1.ca/2oi9y | Dec 27 02:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Is it just me, or does "superior usability" sound as vacuous as "superior drinkability?" http://ur1.ca/2oiaf | Dec 27 02:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Network neutrality is the idea that your internet connection should treat all websites & services the same. Find out more theopeninter.net | Dec 27 03:01 | |
| DaemonFC | I tend to think of it as a thinly veiled codeword for the FCC to get their hands on the internet and do what they did for television | Dec 27 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | There's no way that the two ISPs that control 90% of the internet access in the US and bribe both parties to do their bidding are ever going to play nice | Dec 27 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | if the FCC gets their way, they'll use ICANN as their club the same way the FBI is shutting down "pirate" websites by having them delisted | Dec 27 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | and the reason other countries want a stake in ICANN is not to curtail the abuse, it's to have their fingers in the pie too | Dec 27 03:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovruni/@ovruni] !Wikileaks: EEUU protegió a famacéutica que experimentaba con niños de Nigeria como si fueran cobayas: http://ur1.ca/2oiu3 | Dec 27 03:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] It's from 2009, but well worth a re-read - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/opinion/14trillin.html #fb | Dec 27 03:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad There already is one (see windows.kde.org), and I think it does solve a very real problem (creating shorter jumping points to FOSS) | Dec 27 04:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix /me knows. just promise you stay in #linux userland ;-) | Dec 27 04:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad yup | Dec 27 04:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad Qt apps look good anywhere, even on that ugly desktop that starts with a G :P | Dec 27 04:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix ok, there you have it... @reality is; Qt looks good... regardless of desktop or display technology used! ;-) | Dec 27 04:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad or formfactor! qt on mobile is damn fine | Dec 27 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | Hello DaemonFC | Dec 27 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Where were you? | Dec 27 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Jono kept asking about you | Dec 27 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's good to be loved | Dec 27 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | bed mostly, my psychiatrist is determined to figure out the LD50 of Lithium using me as his subject | Dec 27 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | community mental health means they hire the D-list of mental health professionals | Dec 27 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | anyone working for that is either ready to retire or speaking english as a second language | Dec 27 05:12 |
| schestowitz | People who need mental 'health' go to mental 'health' school | Dec 27 05:14 |
| schestowitz | Pretending minds can be 'ill' | Dec 27 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | they have this nice revolving door here in the US wherein those who can't pay $100 an hour end up patched up and released to go kill someone or hurt themselves when their 30 day supply runs out | Dec 27 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | it sucks | Dec 27 05:14 |
| schestowitz | Unless they are dementia/ Alzheimer, there's noatrphy | Dec 27 05:15 |
| schestowitz | atrophy | Dec 27 05:15 |
| schestowitz | BTW, my mom's aunt died this month from Alzheimer disease | Dec 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen one psychiatrist yet that seemed "alright" to me, of course my viewpoint may be off | Dec 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | but they all seem eccentric at the least | Dec 27 05:16 |
| schestowitz | They go to mental 'health' school to learn about themselves | Dec 27 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | yes, Alzheimer's is awful, the most the medication can do is maybe slow it down a bit or mask the symptoms | Dec 27 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | maybe if they researched that instead of erectile dysfunction and hair loss... | Dec 27 05:17 |
| schestowitz | "So what's *YOUR* problem, Doc?" | Dec 27 05:18 |
| schestowitz | OK, time to resume posts | Dec 27 05:18 |
| schestowitz | I have about 20, it's after xmas | Dec 27 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | people can complain about government spending gone out of control if they want, but Medicare spends $300 a bottle to give old farts that are living off the system anyway an erection | Dec 27 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | tell me that's appropriate :) | Dec 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... IRC server had issues | Dec 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | Let me fetch from another acct. | Dec 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> I haven't seen one psychiatrist yet that seemed "alright" to me, of course my viewpoint may be off | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> but they all seem eccentric at the least | Dec 27 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | I finally beat together a KDE setup I'm happy with | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz> They go to mental 'health' school to learn about themselves | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> yes, Alzheimer's is awful, the most the medication can do is maybe slow it down a bit or mask the symptoms | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> maybe if they researched that instead of erectile dysfunction and hair loss... | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz> "So what's *YOUR* problem, Doc?" | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz> OK, time to resume posts | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz> I have about 20, it's after xmas | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> people can complain about government spending gone out of control if they want, but Medicare spends $300 a bottle to give old farts that are living off the system anyway an erection | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> tell me that's appropriate :) | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz> Hmm... IRC server had issues | Dec 27 05:20 |
| schestowitz | <schestowitz> Let me fetch from another acct. | Dec 27 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | the biggest problem I had with Kubuntu 10.10 is the several places you have to specify your default web browser and the fact that any application can respect one of those settings arbitrarily :D | Dec 27 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | other than that it's been pretty simple | Dec 27 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | one day someone is going to get it in their head that you can toggle a setting once and everything respects it | Dec 27 05:22 |
| *DaemonFC has faith | Dec 27 05:22 | |
| schestowitz | belief w/o evidence | Dec 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | brb | Dec 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | SL is dead | Dec 27 05:24 |
| schestowitz | Worth posting about | Dec 27 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | well, I haven't seen any evidence that this is going on, but I want to believe it | Dec 27 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 27 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | that is faith | Dec 27 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | optimism, pie in the sky, sometimes dangerous, sometimes benign, sometimes hilarious | Dec 27 05:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just created this new page: #Silverlight Reality Log - http://bit.ly/edxN0S | Dec 27 05:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | Silverlight has been dead for a while | Dec 27 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | the only sites that ever used it were paid to | Dec 27 06:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Netflix Considers Dumping #Silverlight http://bit.ly/eKs5z4 true enough to say #Microsoft failed on the Web | Dec 27 06:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | off the top of my mind, Netflix is the only substantial Silverlight site out there | Dec 27 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix will go to Flash if they dump Silverlight, they're not going to use anything that doesn't support DRM | Dec 27 06:04 |
| sebsebseb | awesoem DaemonFC is back | Dec 27 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 27 06:05 |
| *DaemonFC is eating some taco bell junk food | Dec 27 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC | nom nom nom | Dec 27 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What do you think Attachmate has in mind for Mono, Banshee, Moonlight, Go-OO, and so on? | Dec 27 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | they don't have the patent licenses to carry on with them do they? | Dec 27 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | I know Ubuntu is wanting to go to Banshee on the desktop edition 11.04 but there may not be an upstream for that by then | Dec 27 06:08 |
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| sebsebseb | knocked my ethernet cable | Dec 27 06:12 |
| sebsebseb | so lost Intenret | Dec 27 06:12 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I think a few people thought it was good that you left, but I missed you | Dec 27 06:13 |
| sebsebseb | then I got used to you not being here | Dec 27 06:13 |
| sebsebseb | nice to have you back though :) | Dec 27 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | glad someone thinks so :) | Dec 27 06:14 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: things not quite as good, as they were with you here | Dec 27 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | I spent the day stapling ethernet cable to the ceiling to make a home network that doesn't need my wifi on | Dec 27 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | not paranoid, just annoyed when the signal drops :) | Dec 27 06:15 |
| sebsebseb | in a way it was your fault I knocked my cable, since I was excited to see you back :D | Dec 27 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Dec 27 06:16 |
| *DaemonFC has had way too much coffee | Dec 27 06:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I feel like my eyes are going to bug out or something | Dec 27 06:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] AMD 2010 Catalyst Driver Year In Review: Earlier this month we delivered our annual performance look at NVIDIA's... http://bit.ly/erDxaT | Dec 27 06:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | Catalyst is a lot better than it was at the beginning of the year | Dec 27 06:16 |
| sebsebseb | as for Netflix dumping Silverlight soon or whatever uhmm yeah thats good | Dec 27 06:16 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Dec 27 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's went from garbage to usable | Dec 27 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | well Netflix is USA only | Dec 27 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | so doesn't mean much to me | Dec 27 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah like you were saying they may go Flash for DRM | Dec 27 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix isn't really that great anyway | Dec 27 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | at least as far as the streaming goes | Dec 27 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's mainly 10+ year old movies or indie films | Dec 27 06:17 |
| sebsebseb | indie means? low budget? | Dec 27 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | I only saw a handful of good movies when I had an account there | Dec 27 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | independently produced | Dec 27 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | usually low budget, some were pretty good though | Dec 27 06:18 |
| sebsebseb | yeah Humble Bundle | Dec 27 06:18 |
| sebsebseb | anyone buy that? | Dec 27 06:18 |
| sebsebseb | the games | Dec 27 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | I did | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | I did as well | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and can actsaully buy a game where you get a virtual girl friend | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | from one of the | Dec 27 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | I paid more than the average to get both bundles | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | people who had a Humble Bundle game | Dec 27 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | World of Goo alone costs more than that and I was playing a pirate copy | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I paid $15 | Dec 27 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | so at least I have a license for it now | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | and then I got the other bundle as well, but they had open sourced the first bundles games anyway | Dec 27 06:19 |
| sebsebseb | from what I read | Dec 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | the humble bundle world of goo has the library update patch applied already | Dec 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | so you won't have to get that to make the sound not choppy | Dec 27 06:20 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Dec 27 06:20 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't downloaded any of the games yet, but something I want to do | Dec 27 06:20 |
| sebsebseb | also not much time left, but can get the 2008 version of a commerical office suite | Dec 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | they have a bittorrent option | Dec 27 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | before end of the year | Dec 27 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | still not done that just yet | Dec 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still seeding them | Dec 27 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | yeah giving away the old version for free untill then | Dec 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | Softmaker? | Dec 27 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | and then there are some other games that can be bought, I mean look at this link | Dec 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | that one is pretty good | Dec 27 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | http://linuxgamingnews.org/2010/12/24/all-winter-wolves-and-tycoon-games-are-50-off-until-end-of-the-year/ | Dec 27 06:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: All Winter Wolves and Tycoon Games are 50% Off Until End Of The Year ! « Linux Gaming News .::. Size~: 35.83 KB | Dec 27 06:21 |
| sebsebseb | I think schestowitz linked to that on identica | Dec 27 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Softmaker likes to give out old versions for free sometimes as a promo | Dec 27 06:22 |
| sebsebseb | http://linuxgamingnews.org/2010/12/24/all-winter-wolves-and-tycoon-games-are-50-off-until-end-of-the-year/ | Dec 27 06:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: All Winter Wolves and Tycoon Games are 50% Off Until End Of The Year ! « Linux Gaming News .::. Size~: 35.83 KB | Dec 27 06:22 |
| sebsebseb | and then from that you can go onto the winter wolves games site, and Tycoon games | Dec 27 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | I switched over to Koffice though | Dec 27 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | I like it better than OOo | Dec 27 06:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Just texted Digidesert to have my system rebooted next time it can. Until then, I'm unreachable via email and irc | Dec 27 06:23 | |
| DaemonFC | OOo is just really big and bloated and slow, Koffice is lightning compared to that | Dec 27 06:23 |
| sebsebseb | yeah KOffice I have had it installed a few times or whatever | Dec 27 06:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but never used it properly | Dec 27 06:23 |
| sebsebseb | ,but seems nice | Dec 27 06:23 |
| sebsebseb | also its called something else now, or a fork of it | Dec 27 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah of course we also got LibreOffice now | Dec 27 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | and then this commerical office suite i'll get before to late | Dec 27 06:24 |
| sebsebseb | and uhmm | Dec 27 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | Softmaker is probably the best proprietary office suite out there | Dec 27 06:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix move to a linode. having a physical node in a datacenter means you also need to have the time and opportunities to maintain it. | Dec 27 06:24 | |
| DaemonFC | but I wasn't impressed enough to register it when the trial times out | Dec 27 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to shell out cash when what I have is doing what I want well enough most of the time | Dec 27 06:25 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: Yeah, what's funny is how cheap the Windows users are | Dec 27 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | if you look on the humble bundle stats | Dec 27 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | I read something about that | Dec 27 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | basicalely said that they pay less, because they got more games | Dec 27 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | probably a lot of them pitching in a penny or something to get the download links | Dec 27 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | pay less, because more games for Windows | Dec 27 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the value in a Windows game has gone down sharply in my opinion | Dec 27 06:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad That wouldn't solve this, and would probably be worse. And more expensive. I have 1.5TB of data hosted | Dec 27 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @GdnCables Two !ACTA !WikiLeaks cables released http://ur1.ca/2n827 http://ur1.ca/2n822 !cablegate #youaskwesearch #Italy, #EU & #Sweden | Dec 27 06:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US embassy cables: Italy, the EU and the Anti-Counterfeit Trading Agreement | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 100.87 KB | Dec 27 06:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US embassy cables: Sweden's concerns about Anti-Counterfeit Trading Agreement negotiations | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 101.92 KB | Dec 27 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | ever since this DRM crap like limited installs and have to be on the internet to play the single player mode | Dec 27 06:28 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: remember to come to #boycottnovell-social as well | Dec 27 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | I could live with having to put my CD in | Dec 27 06:28 |
| sebsebseb | DRM is annoying | Dec 27 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | can be | Dec 27 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm not going to have them tell me once I install it 3 times I need to buy a new license | Dec 27 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | since can brake WIndows apps from working in Wine | Dec 27 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | I got something that is like that | Dec 27 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | yes it was legally bought, but when I tried to run in Wine | Dec 27 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | it was like you are running a pirate or a virtual copy | Dec 27 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | there was a linux game publishing that I believe went under | Dec 27 06:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] This is why we don't hack together scripts to limit httpd's memory usage and hope they work, rather than properly adminning our systems | Dec 27 06:29 | |
| DaemonFC | was trying to push DRM like that on their games | Dec 27 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | check its legal, heres why things should be legal, if not go return it, blah de blah | Dec 27 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | thing is its the latest DVD I got for learning the rules lf the road and that, so I can drive and have a car | Dec 27 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | 2009 to 2010 edition so I should start using that pretty soon really | Dec 27 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | I say DRM is just a lock on a door, if someone wants in bad enough they'll bash the lock in anyway | Dec 27 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | my old ones from 2006 work in Wine, but I am not sure how out dated those would be | Dec 27 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | but how many legitimate customers should you rip off to enforce something that doesn't work? none | Dec 27 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah if I really wanted to mess around with Wine I could try and get round their DRM protection, so I can use the legal copy, but I don't want to mess around with Wine like that | Dec 27 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | so hopefuly it will work in a Windows virtual machine from the DVD, but I haven't tried that, just yet | Dec 27 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of games see Wine as a debugger and freak out, even if you do have the disc in the drive | Dec 27 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also its annoying that have to buy stuff like that, for Windows and only Windows | Dec 27 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I mean if going to buy it | Dec 27 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | so you have to go get a no-cd crack anyway | Dec 27 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | I mean if going to use it, its annoying that its only for Windows | Dec 27 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | I finally figured if they're going to treat me like a thief, they don't need my money | Dec 27 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | yes not the best sofware from a technical point of view by a long way, but I am sure it woudn't take much to make that kind of thing, I am on about the driving thorey stuff, I am sure it woudn't take much to make for Linux and Mac as well | Dec 27 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | piracy isn't going down, but customers are giving up and going away | Dec 27 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | so these game companies only hurt themselves | Dec 27 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | right, but if software annoys, because it can't just be run on Linux or whatever | Dec 27 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | shoudn't go and pirate it as a result | Dec 27 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | if pirate, and then use, well still a user | Dec 27 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | I used to buy dozens of PC games a year, and now I think I bought one this year | Dec 27 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | and it's only cause I knew it works in Wine | Dec 27 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | I will avoide most Windows software now :) completly avoide, not use :) | Dec 27 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | it's not worth having Windows around to run games if you're not comfortable buying games | Dec 27 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | so they're poisoning the well for Windows too | Dec 27 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | yeah many people want to get rid of Windows | Dec 27 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Dec 27 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | keep playing their Windows games and using other Windows programs, so hmm | Dec 27 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | everything I was still using my PC for can be done in Linux | Dec 27 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | hmm I had a similar convo with gnufreex this morning, well the kind of thing I am about to say | Dec 27 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | this morning, well I mean yesterday, since time here now, since now its morning again really | Dec 27 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Linux has gotten better, but Windows has also gotten worse | Dec 27 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | ah yes now I remember what I was going to say | Dec 27 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | I think they met in the middle | Dec 27 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | Linux distros are really meant to replace Unix not Windows | Dec 27 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | its just in recent years, for many computer tasks, they are good enough to replace Windows | Dec 27 06:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix why so much?!?!??? I had several physical servers part of my company, but it was always a PITA to get a reboot scheduled. | Dec 27 06:36 | |
| sebsebseb | and some people go to a Linux distro for the wrong reasons really completly | Dec 27 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | for example I read not that long ago some comment to something, and basically some guy who had a company | Dec 27 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | was able to move to Linux, because of Mono | Dec 27 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | he had .NET stuff or whatever, and yeah was able to run it in Mono, so was able to nearly competly replace Windows | Dec 27 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | basicalely | Dec 27 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | uh surely someone like that, should just stay and use Windows really? | Dec 27 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | in other words, they already had a bunch of C# code they didn't want to scrap | Dec 27 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | and Mono gave them an excuse to be lazy | Dec 27 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I guess so | Dec 27 06:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Cannot Offer #Security on the Web, Either http://bit.ly/gJX1GN | Dec 27 06:38 | |
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| sebsebseb | and also distros who have tried to compete agasint WIndows more properly and gain quite a lot of users going by history have failed so far, Linspire, Freespire, and Xandros, for exampe | Dec 27 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | example | Dec 27 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | Linspire wasn't trying to compete | Dec 27 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | and now yeah we got Ubuntu trying to do this, and things keep on getting worse now really, but most users have no idea, and they think the changes are good | Dec 27 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | it was a flame bait to get money out of Microsoft | Dec 27 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | also people think Mac OS X is so cool or whatever, or at least the interface, so yeah Ubuntu going more Mac OS X like | Dec 27 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | they made so many false promises from the beginning | Dec 27 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | it was going to run all Windows software, right? | Dec 27 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | I mean yeah its ok to be more like Mac OS X, but if they started going more like Windows, people woudn't be happy many of them, hmm | Dec 27 06:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] CIA launches #WTF task force to assess impact of U.S. cables' exposure by !WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/2n4d2 !cablegate | Dec 27 06:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @leaklinks unofficial #WikiLeaks information resource http://wlcentral.org @wl_central | Dec 27 06:39 | |
| DaemonFC | remember Wine 10 years ago? that was their Windows compatibility | Dec 27 06:39 |
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| sebsebseb | honestly yes, Micrsoft didn't become number one faily and all that, and there bad security and all that, but Windows can be ok at times, or kind of | Dec 27 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | no I don't remember Wine 10 years ago, since I started with Fedora Core 2 in 2004, and also coudn't use it online since that stupid wireless device, because... | Dec 27 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's stupid design, and every big product has some | Dec 27 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | just a couple months ago, Mozilla decided to stop exposing XUL to web sites, after patching 100 vulnerabilities in it | Dec 27 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | oh? | Dec 27 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 27 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's in the realease nots for Seamonkey 2.1 beta 1 | Dec 27 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | *notes | Dec 27 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | every version of Firefox and Seamonkey before they stopped that lets you embed XUL in a web page | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm Seamonkey is the fork of Mozilla Suite | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | Mozilla support it? | Dec 27 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, for years | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | well they stopped making Mozilla Suite | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,because of Seamonkey | Dec 27 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | they had back and forth arguments in Bugzilla about stopping the support of it | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | well no they stopped making Mozilla Suite | Dec 27 06:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,because Firefox became really popular | Dec 27 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | because a few intranet sites used XUL | Dec 27 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think Firefox is hype | Dec 27 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | well yes Firefox has been hyped up | Dec 27 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | it really offers nothing over Mozilla other than the appearance of being smaller and faster | Dec 27 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Dec 27 06:43 |
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| sebsebseb | ,but Firefox is a very nice browser :) | Dec 27 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | also Firefox is proper open source | Dec 27 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | where as Chrome and Chromium well no | Dec 27 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | Chromium helps to make closed source Chrome, and is from Google who, aren't a proper opensource/freesoftware company, so hmm | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | and its part of the Google hype | Dec 27 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla has always supported extensions | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | and they have ways to try and get people using Chrome | Dec 27 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | from the very first milestones, in the late 90s | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | in fact two days ago | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | I guess it was two days ago or something like that | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | I installed | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | Avast | Dec 27 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox add-ons are nothing but a pretty installer for the same XPI files | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | on my brothers lap top, that needs sorting out properly on the software side | Dec 27 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | and the installer asked if I wanted Chrome | Dec 27 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Google pays for the advertisement | Dec 27 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | also there was something about, how open tabs in Chrome with some add on, and money will go to chariety, hmm at that | Dec 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | and the box is probably checked already so you'll get it by mistake | Dec 27 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | no it wasn't :) | Dec 27 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | and his lap top uhmm needs sorting out | Dec 27 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | it recently came back with a new screen, because the old broke | Dec 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's one way Windows systems typically fill up with all kinds of crap | Dec 27 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but uhmmm his touchpad and keyboard won't work properly in XP anymore | Dec 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | foistware piggybacking on something else | Dec 27 06:45 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox even did it for a while | Dec 27 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | a PC LInux OS Gnome Live CD though and no problem with that, wireless would need setting up, and I am thinking Mandriva or PC LInux SO | Dec 27 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | Daemon Tools installer used to offer Firefox | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | I want something that will automatically do security updates, and I have tried some program for this in PCLOS and it sucks | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | Firefox has been hyped up sure | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | it was the first | Dec 27 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | I prefer Seamonkey | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | browser, that went properly main straeme | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | that was actsaully good as well :) | Dec 27 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah I like Seamonkey a lot myself, I liked that old Mozilla Suite as well, and now days, I am using both Firefox and Seamonkey for now | Dec 27 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I also like Konqueror at times and browsers like that | Dec 27 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah Firefox got all hyped and all that, and Thunderbird is behind | Dec 27 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | however out of the two a good browser is more important than a good email client, anyway | Dec 27 06:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "People OK with murdering Assange" http://ur1.ca/2ojmt includes !Canada's #Flanagan "Assange should be assassinated" http://ur1.ca/2ojmo | Dec 27 06:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: People OK with murdering Assange .::. Size~: 12.19 KB | Dec 27 06:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 27 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | I think Chrome is going to poach Firefox users | Dec 27 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | at one stage I would really try and promote Firefox, including on a computer game, with people in chat and such | Dec 27 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's already stopped Firefox from growing | Dec 27 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | and a brwosers team and yeah | Dec 27 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | converted some people like this actsauly, and got thanked :) | Dec 27 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,bu then I started using Desktop Linux, and a bit later on Ubuntu | Dec 27 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | no Ubuntu when I started | Dec 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu offers Chromium, but then they also give out mpeg codecs for it with a wink and a nod | Dec 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | Chrome supports MPEG | Dec 27 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu still does Firefox by default :) | Dec 27 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | ,but 10.10 netbook was going to maybe have chromium | Dec 27 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox can't because it's not only unethical, it's expensive | Dec 27 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | Chrome can do certain things, because its closed source | Dec 27 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | and | Dec 27 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | yeah has Google behind it, so proper money | Dec 27 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | I set up Seamonkey myself from the tarball | Dec 27 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | anyway uhmmm so yeah I used to promote Firefox a lot | Dec 27 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then that changed to Ubuntu | Dec 27 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | I went to the big thing | Dec 27 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | I thought, if people go get Ubuntu, its the big win, good brwoser by default, good office suite, and so on | Dec 27 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | if I'm really dicky about a program, I'll download it myself and shove it in /opt | Dec 27 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | especially if there's no PPA for it | Dec 27 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yeah converting people who use Windows to a good browser, is much more easier, than getting them useing a Linux distro useauly | Dec 27 06:51 |
| sebsebseb | a browser is like the shallow end of the swimming pool if you like, and a Linux distro is the deep end of the swimming pool if you like | Dec 27 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | you get what I mean | Dec 27 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | every computer I work on gets IE hidden or disabled | Dec 27 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | I had to educate my mom and step-dad over how IE was the most dangerous browser they could use | Dec 27 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | that's how their system got taken over with malware | Dec 27 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | they were still browsing with IE 6 on Windows XP :) | Dec 27 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | well its been a few years or so now my family not using Internet Explorer | Dec 27 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | Mozilla Suite for a bit, and then Firefox | Dec 27 06:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Russia's Federal Agency for Technical Regulation and Metrology Approves #ODF as National Standard http://bit.ly/eC4JF7 #Russia | Dec 27 06:53 | |
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| sebsebseb | sadly a lot of computers that are out there, in a school or work place, with Windows and IE though :) | Dec 27 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat used to ship with Netscape Navigator as the bundled browser :) | Dec 27 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | uh that was meant to be :( | Dec 27 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | there were no viable open source ones then | Dec 27 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | computer stuff | Dec 27 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | the main streame | Dec 27 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | what is mainstreame | Dec 27 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | takes a long time to change, since most people don't really care that use them | Dec 27 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | shame really | Dec 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | I remembered firing up Red Hat 6 and seeing how butt ugly Netscape was on Linux | Dec 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Dec 27 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | I read this article about | Dec 27 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | this kind of thing | Dec 27 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | how people have like no problem going through diffenret mobile phones and operating systems on them and stuff like that that | Dec 27 06:54 |
| sebsebseb | ,but give them a normal computer, and yeah :( | Dec 27 06:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm "People OK with murdering Assange" http://ur1.ca/2ojmt .. #Flanagan "Assange should be assassinated" http://ur1.ca/2ojmo | Dec 27 06:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | because the OS on a phone is never really all that pronounced | Dec 27 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 27 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | they're all just a touchpad and some apps | Dec 27 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | sure you can go one to another, they're all the same | Dec 27 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | most browsers are also similar | Dec 27 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | and office suites for that matter | Dec 27 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | millions of people use Linux on their cell phone and have no idea and no reason to care | Dec 27 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | and graphics software even | Dec 27 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | and music players | Dec 27 06:55 |
| sebsebseb | nd so on | Dec 27 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | you could give them a Windows phone or an iPhone or a Java phone | Dec 27 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | they go in the store and get whatever phone that store carries | Dec 27 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | same thing with a computer | Dec 27 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | hence why most computer users use Windows | Dec 27 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | if every store selling phones was like stores selling PCs, everyone would only have one kind of phone | Dec 27 06:56 |
| sebsebseb | one of the reasons why | Dec 27 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | no one company has monopolized phone software yet | Dec 27 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | I actually saw someone with a Windows CE phone a few years ago | Dec 27 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | the thing was ugly as sin and twice as big | Dec 27 06:58 |
| sebsebseb | music players people get locked into the brands | Dec 27 06:59 |
| sebsebseb | Ipod and such | Dec 27 06:59 |
| sebsebseb | formats people get locked into the closed format, MP3 and so on | Dec 27 06:59 |
| sebsebseb | social networking sites, the commercial sites tend to be most popular, Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace | Dec 27 06:59 |
| sebsebseb | Linux distros the commercial distros tend to be most popular | Dec 27 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | or distros that are sort of commercial as in OpenSuse | Dec 27 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart sells Facebook gift cards now | Dec 27 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | you can use them as credit for games and things on Facebook | Dec 27 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah Mandrake/Mandriva and then Ubuntu basicalley, altough someone said there was a stage where OpenSuse was most popular between that | Dec 27 07:00 |
| sebsebseb | this whole company and money system we have, makes me feel a bit sick at times | Dec 27 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | in a way | Dec 27 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | how people end up relying on companies a bit to much really | Dec 27 07:01 |
| sebsebseb | and sometimes they get trsuted a bit to much I guess, hence for example all that about Facebook security and privacy issues I Guess | Dec 27 07:02 |
| sebsebseb | and I think the Internet is great, for many reasons including, how great opensource/freesoftware can be made as a result, by people from all over the world working together to do that :) | Dec 27 07:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @treenbaileyr ♺ ebertchicago NYT editorial is the simple truth. It doesn't matter what you think of !WikiLeaks. http://ur1.ca/2ojro | Dec 27 07:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: | Dec 27 07:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] I think someone lost again | Dec 27 07:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] David Frost Interviews Julian Assange: http://anonops.blogspot.com/ !wikileaks !cablegate | Dec 27 07:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad generated data belonging to myself and a few friends, backups, etc. It's my #cloud. :P | Dec 27 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix clouds have also gathered above #Phoenix? wow... generated data only needs a tool to create again; seems redundant to store it ;-) | Dec 27 07:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @laurelrusswurm: David Frost Interviews Julian Assange: http://anonops.blogspot.com/ #wikileaks #cablegate | Dec 27 07:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad time is money, good friend. | Dec 27 07:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: #Russia's Federal Agency for Technical Regulation and Metrology Approves #ODF as National Standard http://bit.ly/eC4JF7 | Dec 27 07:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft BPOS configuration screw up causes data disclosure http://is.gd/jxFlO #microsoft #security | Dec 27 07:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: Distribution Release: MoLinux 6.2 http://bit.ly/eImLbt | Dec 27 07:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix so is storage | Dec 27 07:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/19282742806061056 | Dec 27 07:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz: #Netflix Considers Dumping #Silverlight http://bit.ly/eKs5z4 true enough to say #Microsoft failed on the Web | ☠,☠☠,☠☠☠,☠☠☠☠ | Dec 27 07:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Novell Being Bribed by #Microsoft to Support #OOXML is Not News http://bit.ly/gtePdo "Boycott Novell" was on the right target | Dec 27 07:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Novell Being Bribed by Microsoft to Support OOXML is Not News | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.56 KB | Dec 27 07:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft BPOS cloud service hit with data breach http://is.gd/jxGrf #microsoft #security | Dec 27 07:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Malware Posing as Fake Desktop Utilities Instead of Phony Antivirus http://is.gd/jxGC6 | Dec 27 07:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft BPOS cloud service hit with data breach - Computerworld .::. Size~: 88.94 KB | Dec 27 07:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Malware Posing as Fake Desktop Utilities Instead of Phony Antivirus - Security - News & Reviews - eWeek.com .::. Size~: 123.51 KB | Dec 27 07:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Bummed-out users give anti-virus bloatware the boot http://is.gd/jxGTl #avira #security | Dec 27 07:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bummed-out users give anti-virus bloatware the boot • The Register .::. Size~: 19.99 KB | Dec 27 07:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jargon for the next UK #snowpocalypse: http://is.gd/jtETk | Dec 27 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @vasudev So. What Now? - http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101225131233783 !gnu !linux !debian !ubuntu | Dec 27 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] any open source solution that works like !Juniper's Instant Virtual Extranet ? tried Adito, but doesn't do it for me... | Dec 27 07:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...goodnight identiverse | Dec 27 07:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Scott Henson: Cobbler 2.0.10: I am proud to announce that I've released the latest version of Cobbler http://bit.ly/gAIKGd | Dec 27 07:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My Foolish Pride: Cobbler 2.0.10 .::. Size~: 40.45 KB | Dec 27 07:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE is Imploding and #Novell Events May Die http://bit.ly/goM9U0 that's what usually happens when you partner with #Microsoft | Dec 27 08:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mesajul Majestății Sale Regele de Crăciun, 2010 http://is.gd/jxIMT #romania #monarchy | Dec 27 08:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenSUSE is Imploding and Novell Events May Die | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.71 KB | Dec 27 08:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @gbraad 100$ one time investment? I currently pay very little for that colo, so I really can't beat the pricing I have atm | Dec 27 08:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @rrix have to admit, nice price! how much bandwidth you get for that money? own server, or also a rental... | Dec 27 08:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Future of Embedded is Linux, Not #Windows http://bit.ly/ee773k !Linux is winning, there's no going back for #Microsoft | Dec 27 08:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Looks like Wikileaks did some good regarding Spain's image of being dictated to by the U.S Government http://ur1.ca/2ok71 | Dec 27 08:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | my printer just died :P at the ripe old age of 7 | Dec 27 08:28 |
| schestowitz | HP? | Dec 27 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | Lexmark | Dec 27 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling I'm probably going to have to buy an HP | Dec 27 08:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Picking up @opensourcegeek from the airport. | Dec 27 08:39 | |
| DaemonFC | the only other manufacturers I see either don't support Linux at all or have a closed source driver that only comes in x86 32-bit | Dec 27 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | and even if they do have an x86-64 driver, that just means they can stop updating it right after I buy the thing and as soon as I upgrade my OS, it doesn't work | Dec 27 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not doing binary printer drivers when the OS has a life expectancy of 6 months :D | Dec 27 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's bad enough having to deal with the catastrophe of binary video card drivers | Dec 27 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | "We're not supporting you anymore, but please feel free to buy another one" :) | Dec 27 08:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Very cool: "Howto build a fake google streetview car" http://bit.ly/e7jqX3 | Dec 27 08:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | I noticed the rub with hplip, they tend to only support their expensive models | Dec 27 08:45 |
| *DaemonFC thinks he'll have to choose between the $40 Canon model with the binary driver or the $150 HP that makes julian fries | Dec 27 08:46 | |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 27 08:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Nice result for Citeh !football http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/26/newcastle-united-manchester-city-premier-league | Dec 27 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Government 2010 - Open standards policy in India: A long, but successful journey | http://bit.ly/dcHit1 | Dec 27 08:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Newcastle United 1-3 Manchester City | Premier League match report | Football | The Guardian .::. Size~: 242.53 KB | Dec 27 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | There's no such thing as expensive printer, DaemonFC | Dec 27 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple and Bill Gates Serve Power, Serve Themselves, Harm the Population http://bit.ly/gt4ubm important events serve as reminders | Dec 27 08:53 | |
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| schestowitz | It's the ink that they use to make money | Dec 27 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Like pay as you go | Dec 27 08:53 |
| schestowitz | Ink 'installments' | Dec 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they all come with dinky little cartridges that run out in a week | Dec 27 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | so the first think you have to do is go back and buy $30 of ink | Dec 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | *thing | Dec 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | the first time you buy ink for a typical printer, you may have just spent more than the printer cost | Dec 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | it really is obscene | Dec 27 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | I know that Lexmark files patents on their cartridges so it's illegal to sell clones at affordable prices, then they make the things about impossible to refill | Dec 27 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm avoiding them no matter what else | Dec 27 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the pricing on printers is just a little too good to be true | Dec 27 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | then you find out it was the up front cost | Dec 27 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed they like to do other sneaky things like make the ink coagulate if you go a while without printing, so it gums up the cartridge and ruins it | Dec 27 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] John Peel Returns with Podcasts http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/26/john-peel-returns-bbc-6-music | Dec 27 08:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I saw an HP wireless printer/scanner/copier at Walmart, I wonder how much fun it would be trying to get HPLIP to do anything with that :) | Dec 27 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to sit on this as long as I can, because you know I'll drag one home and plug it in and either it won't work at all or just the printer will and either way I'll feel robbed | Dec 27 09:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @schestowitz The Future of Embedded is Linux, Not #Windows http://bit.ly/ee773k Linux is winning, there's no going back for #Microsoft | Dec 27 09:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think their plan is to never entirely put Windows XP under | Dec 27 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | figure out a way that you can't get it unless you're putting it on certain things | Dec 27 09:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Multi video search, great for !linux tutorials, humour, screenscasts etc http://www.buscatube.com/videos/linux | Dec 27 09:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Videos de LINUX - BUSCATUBE.COM - Video de LINUX, buscar y encontrar vídeos en línea, música, entretenimiento, noticias, gratis .::. Size~: 43.01 KB | Dec 27 09:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #featurerequest for !mustard: identi.ca groups autoremove in redents (optional, missed in Twitter clients for obv reason no grps in TWTR) | Dec 27 09:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @carlopiana: ♻ @schestowitz The Future of Embedded is #Linux, Not #Windows http://bit.ly/ee773k | Dec 27 09:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: Apple Removes Wikileaks iPhone App / "Remember, Uncle Steve is watching!" - http://is.gd/jxJcm | Dec 27 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] trying out choqok. finally a tool that supports a proxy! bad point; it looks like #crap and counter intuitive. | Dec 27 09:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith Me neither, they do seem to be immune from the consequences of their actions more than most. | Dec 27 09:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] massacres of Jenin http://is.gd/jxZcE and of Shabra & Shatilla http://is.gd/jy1kn,i'm looking forward to israeli cables from !wikileaks. | Dec 27 09:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Flip Time screenlet adds alarm, new features http://goo.gl/Wx8MA | Dec 27 09:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Impatient for Ubuntu #Natty? Add this countdown widget to your blog http://goo.gl/yvrOH | Dec 27 09:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Alarm clock screenlet anyone? .::. Size~: 36.06 KB | Dec 27 09:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Demolition of the Paris Metro - http://bit.ly/etoheS incredible photo-essay of the forgotten stations of #Paris #Metro - don't miss | Dec 27 09:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: sleepycity | photography urban exploration | Demolition of the Paris Metro .::. Size~: 81.22 KB | Dec 27 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’ - http://bit.ly/fEr6t4 interesting parallel ecosystem #apple | Dec 27 09:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian #Assange signs $1.5 million book deal “to keep #WikiLeaks afloat” - http://bit.ly/htadkk but when will he have time to write it? | Dec 27 09:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] So. What Now? - http://bit.ly/idHtUq #Groklaw stares into the abyss - the abyss stares back | Dec 27 09:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Linux rules the Clouds - http://zd.net/dTSCvy another area where open excels #cloudcomputing #linux | Dec 27 09:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The New #Sharing Economy - http://bit.ly/gMismk 2011's key trend? | Dec 27 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad: Don't gwibber and pino support the environment proxy support from gnome? | Dec 27 09:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music Is Better Off On BitTorrent, Than With Apple or Big Music - http://bit.ly/e33WNS big labels "delusional laughing stocks at this point" | Dec 27 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: @macno: it should be done by statusnet if It's done with 'new' style api | Dec 27 10:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Very cool: "Howto build a fake google streetview car" http://bit.ly/e7jqX3 | Dec 27 10:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz The Future of Embedded is Linux, Not #Windows http://bit.ly/ee773k !Linux is winning, there's no going back for #Micr ... | Dec 27 10:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Pirate Apple App Store Innovates With ‘Reverse BitTorrent’ - http://bit.ly/fEr6t4 interesting parallel ecosystem #apple | Dec 27 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Music Is Better Off On BitTorrent, Than With Apple or Big Music - http://bit.ly/e33WNS big labels "delusional laughing sto ... | Dec 27 10:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera True. Frightening true. | Dec 27 10:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikileaks Translated to #Arabic by Bloggers & Local Online Newspapers - http://bit.ly/fJxBUZ important move, I think | Dec 27 10:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The debate on the #Copyright Amendment Bill, 2010 to spill out on the streets of Delhi - http://bit.ly/i9PDDr inflamed passions #india | Dec 27 10:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SPICY IP: The debate on the Copyright Amendment Bill, 2010 to spill out on the streets of Delhi .::. Size~: 118.68 KB | Dec 27 10:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wikileaks #ACTA Cables Reveal Concern With U.S. Secrecy Demands - http://bit.ly/h2ElhZ not that "concern" made much difference | Dec 27 10:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What annoys me with Hypephone is that it is a lavish toy, and, by chance, one can even make phone calls with it. But that's secondary. | Dec 27 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O quê me irrita com o Hypephone é que ele é um brinquedo caro, que, por acaso, também consegue fazer ligações. Mas, isso é secundário. | Dec 27 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://bit.ly/gmDKJM | Dec 27 10:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Having caramel hot chocolate at the starbucks... | Dec 27 11:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Useful cheat sheet for !perl special variables !linux http://www.catonmat.net/blog/perls-special-variable-cheat-sheet | Dec 27 11:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Perl Special Variable Cheat Sheet - good coders code, great reuse .::. Size~: 49.11 KB | Dec 27 11:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] watching robocop what a reto feeling | Dec 27 11:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Coders Quote !perl !q "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." - H L Mencken | Dec 27 11:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nsisodiya Hacktivism? | Dec 27 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Simple Bash dated/compressed backup script to play with: http://richs-lxh.com/simple-bash-backup-script/ | Dec 27 11:31 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Dec 27 11:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NYT: "The fact of the matter is that banks are not like any other business." http://nyti.ms/ib7XIl same, except when they want bailout | Dec 27 11:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looking forward to recording the !LO year end special with "Der Brigadier" @opensourcegeek tonight. :) | Dec 27 11:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm RT @q4td “Then what are we fighting for?” — Winston Churchill in response to a suggestion of cutting arts funding... | Dec 27 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad !MeeGo tablet specializes in audio recording http://ur1.ca/2oc31 /via: @lwnnet #linuxdevices | Dec 27 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ml2mst I'm 100% MICROS~1-Free again. Found the solution to my Skype Video problems and installed OpenMPT on PlayOnLinux 8-) !techrights | Dec 27 11:43 | |
| MinceR | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/26/AR2010122601791.html | Dec 27 11:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera !wikileaks to release USA Tel Aviv embassy top secret files in 6 months !Palestine via !techrights | Dec 27 11:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why does the government spend so much money on 'defence' and so little on education (which is what helps prevent wars)? Hawks in charge. | Dec 27 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In.. War that followed World War II, Mao Tse Tung's Army ran away from every battle, until they won the war." -MSFT http://bit.ly/e4yqoI | Dec 27 11:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] The new 西二旗 (xi'erqi) station in !Beijing with two additional squeeze and push moments http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbraad/5296543996/ | Dec 27 11:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm @zotz Corporations exist to make profit and protect themselves. they only "do good" if they profit. http://ur1.ca/2krws | Dec 27 11:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !q "And I hope that you die / And your death’ll come soon / I will follow your casket / In the pale afternoon" ~ !Dylan, Masters of War | Dec 27 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Any ETA for YouTube with WebM option for all videos? In Nov. they said they had already converted 80% of all videos. | Dec 27 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Anon plans Civil Rights Denial of Service protest on Bank of America at 1705 GMT on Monday 27th December !Wikileaks | Dec 27 12:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Downloading Mythdora in preparation to kill the last Ubuntu installation on my network. | Dec 27 12:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm As more corporations tighten their grip, Darth, the more human beings will slip through their fingers | Dec 27 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] @schestowitz Instead of "Life without walls" I would say that Microsoft is a "life behind barbed wires"... | Dec 27 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "Science flourishes where art and free speech flourish""~Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon | Dec 27 12:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @sabwanda "Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one." - Abbott Joseph Liebling !wikileaks | Dec 27 12:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jargon: "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." -Dijkstra // same for viruses | Dec 27 12:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @nsisodiya If it's > just prog'ing in scope,then u can go w/ "freedom fighter",which is what I would call @qu1j0t3 & @laurelrusswurm 4 ex | Dec 27 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra no idea yet about #Gwibber. pino at least does not. choqok does, although it has it's own settings for this :-s | Dec 27 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @schestowitz ♺ @trashbird1240 Does #microsoft using the slogan "Life without walls" seem ironic to anyone else? | Dec 27 12:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft tried to buy Yahoo! but eventually didn't. Let's hope Yahoo! buys Microsoft soon, as that would ensure Microsoft dies. #yahooligan | Dec 27 12:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] is the i5-460 any good? I need a small netbook like system, but it needs to be able to do virtualization | Dec 27 13:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @orphen: http://sebastianlab.com/photo/1280/2472505122/1/tumblr_le1ysy7Sxh1qz6vqb #emacs #deseo #humor | Dec 27 13:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-12-27: Unboxing Cory Doctorow’s “With A Little Help” Back when he was my boss, Hal Stern express... http://wmk.me/hmVN4p | Dec 27 13:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "When it started, TV was free." --Groklaw. And guess what Land of the Free does with #spectrum and #NetNeutrality now? Communication tax. | Dec 27 13:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thomaszander/@thomaszander] Have been fixing usability issues and possible crashes in #kword in the morning, now heading to town for the after xmas sales. !koffice !kde | Dec 27 13:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "To the media, a suggestion: ask Mueller who pays him currently. See if you get a straight answer." #mobbyists | Dec 27 13:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "...If not, ask him if he [Florian] works for Microsoft. I have. Others have. He wouldn't say." --Groklaw #mobbyists //cc @ffii @glynmoody | Dec 27 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Holy Mother of God! I just won a Veyron. Oo #GT5 | Dec 27 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] How to buy a Dell without windows - http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/how-to-buy-a-dell-without-windows/ | Dec 27 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh What a "Toy" one? | Dec 27 13:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @fabsh if only Playstation could be more real life... ;-) | Dec 27 13:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Business: 2010 in review http://bit.ly/emzTzx | Dec 27 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism. I fell into a hornets’ nest of revolutionary feminism" --Assange http://bit.ly/eFGqmW !wikileaks | Dec 27 14:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @agentsmith And Howard Jones @reality | Dec 27 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @harishpillay How to buy a Dell without windows - http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/how-to-buy-a-dell-without-windows/ | Dec 27 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] If the FCC had regulated the Internet: A counterfactual history of cyberspace (Slate/ Jack Shafer): http://slate.me/gnQkwc | Dec 27 14:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @timbl @karlpro So how do I point Adium at identi.ca? > set identi.ca up such that it sends copies to Twitter, then post to identica only | Dec 27 14:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: If the FCC had regulated the Internet: A counterfactual history of cyberspace. - By Jack Shafer - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 55.99 KB | Dec 27 14:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sabwanda/@sabwanda] !wikileaks !piratenpartei !piratenberlin ... die Zeiten werden zensierter! http://ur1.ca/2omlc | Dec 27 14:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Freesoftware campaigners put pressure on Brussels http://bit.ly/eIARLt thanks to the good folks from !fsfe | Dec 27 14:08 | |
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| oiaohm | That one buy a dell without windows if you are a company schestowitz you can have dell ship a pack of 5 or more with OS of your selection preinstalled. | Dec 27 14:08 |
| oiaohm | But still it spend ages on the phone. | Dec 27 14:09 |
| oiaohm | or in the chat box. | Dec 27 14:10 |
| oiaohm | They are determined to believe you will want windows. | Dec 27 14:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Florian and Microsoft joined by the hip: http://twitpic.com/3jvlwb Nice sheep clothing you got there, Florian. | Dec 27 14:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @harishpillay That's a great post! :) So buying a Dell with Windows costs an extra S$158.64. I wonder what that is in €'s. | Dec 27 14:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] RT @harishpillay How to buy a Dell without windows - http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/how-to-buy-a-dell-without-windows/ | Dec 27 14:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 170.19 KB | Dec 27 14:15 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: or you can't | Dec 27 14:16 |
| MinceR | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Why-is-Dell-UK-making-it-so-difficult-1095568.html | Dec 27 14:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why is Dell UK making it so difficult? - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.11 KB | Dec 27 14:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Control halt DELL it | Dec 27 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gbraad Indeed.... ;) | Dec 27 14:18 | |
| schestowitz | TWICE> | Dec 27 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Next month I might move on to another project where we deal with the face database of NIST. Sounds like fun. Algo research. | Dec 27 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A lot of work prevented me from posting much this month. I'll try to catch up next weekend. | Dec 27 14:18 | |
| oiaohm | Note what I said they are determined to sell windows MinceR. | Dec 27 14:19 |
| oiaohm | Yes ages in the sence of days with the legal jackhammer. | Dec 27 14:20 |
| schestowitz | Maybe support reasons too | Dec 27 14:20 |
| schestowitz | Diversity makes staffing harder | Dec 27 14:20 |
| oiaohm | But funny thing is once I had done it once even that I was doing it as a individulal I got a business login. | Dec 27 14:21 |
| oiaohm | so the next time it was dead simple. | Dec 27 14:21 |
| oiaohm | Yes it seams like you need a business login taged Linux user to get the stuff simply. | Dec 27 14:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] So, will Harry get Ashley Young when the transfer window opens? !spurs !football | Dec 27 14:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A couple of days ago #Groklaw pondered aloud shutting itself down and fortunately didn't. There's no risk of shutdown at !techrights at all. | Dec 27 14:21 | |
| oiaohm | The thing that topped it off is the laptop turned up with dead ram so it had to go back. Stupid enough it came back from having new ram put in it with windows installed even that it did not have a windows sticker. | Dec 27 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Samsung Galaxy S Close to 10 Million Sold Units http://lxnews.org/2010/12/27/galaxy-s-close-to-10-million-sold/ | Dec 27 14:23 | |
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| oiaohm | Yes Dell does have hardware support problems when they have diversity. schestowitz | Dec 27 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Identi.ca = great because as long as I'm allowed 2 work from home some of the time there's always something 2 permit keeping abreast of news | Dec 27 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @timbl: @karlpro Ok, thanks - this sent from Adium. — but I can't connect it to twitter now. > in indenti.ca, set option for twitter cc | Dec 27 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] The only 416 words you need to read to get how #capitalism has been entirely rotted: http://nyti.ms/fS7nRE #FinancialDeregulation !wikileaks | Dec 27 14:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: Open*Business 2010 best images http://bit.ly/eVjoEO | Dec 27 14:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New project for #WikiLeaks - http://bit.ly/i7NRjY just in case it was running out of ideas #riaa #mpaa | Dec 27 14:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The #N900 is "mostly bought by hobbyists" http://ur1.ca/2omrr Who are these hobbyists? When will I meet one? !meego !lo | Dec 27 14:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: New project for #WikiLeaks - http://bit.ly/i7NRjY just in case it was running out of ideas #riaa #mpaa | Dec 27 14:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Simple rebuttals to denier talking points, with links to the full climate science - http://bit.ly/e0KlSq from Aug, but worth noting for 2011 | Dec 27 14:40 | |
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| oiaohm | Intersting seeing how many are trying to kill meego before it gets under way proper. | Dec 27 14:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Testing the latest Kubuntu daily build | Dec 27 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @richslxh according to http://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/, it's EUR 93.1020 as the windows tax. | Dec 27 14:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @beabusaniche: Rechaçamos uma ALCA com a Europa! O Tratado de Livre Comércio UE-Mercosul é lesivo para nossos povos http://ur1.ca/2olvh | Dec 27 14:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @harishpillay €93. Hmm, I wonder how many get sold with OS installed. I know here in Spain it's quite easy to get computers with no OS. | Dec 27 14:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Another treatise on object-oriented programming, from someone who seems to know way more than I do http://ur1.ca/2omx1 | Dec 27 14:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] “C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg.” --Bjarne Stroustrup | Dec 27 14:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Iveland Alpha 5 Works To Prepare OpenBenchmarking.org: Phoronix Test Suite 3.0 "Iveland" Alpha 5 has been releas... http://bit.ly/g0KhGi | Dec 27 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maha/@maha] #freemanning !27c3 !wikileaks http://twitpic.com/3k6zrh /via @fasel | Dec 27 15:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @binayaksen: 3000+ Signatures in 2 Days. Sign Petition 2 President of India. Indian Justice Has Failed Dr Binayak Sen http... | Dec 27 15:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Fashion copyrights? @artseavey predicts the start of the open fashion movement | http://bit.ly/foTVJ5 | Dec 27 15:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Ars Staff picks: our 10 favorite !Android apps of 2010 http://goo.gl/Oy6D3 | Dec 27 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Something almost every two-tap basin needs - http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/e772a2d3-13fc-4a92-94c4-bc519dd08d7d.jpg #fb | Dec 27 15:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 10 - Developing films the open source way | http://bit.ly/aS4XA9 | Dec 27 15:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Obtuse Java error messages: "Incompatible magic value 1008813135 in the thread 'main'" | Dec 27 15:33 | |
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| MadRobot | Salam all | Dec 27 15:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] /me thinks status.net twitter etc accounts should be defined by a single URI | Dec 27 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Ok, first day of work over, 3 more to go before my 10-day break. Now off home for a nice #cupoftea :) | Dec 27 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !rr !lo I really like Ben Walker - listening to ep #180 | Dec 27 15:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] No surprise that MS paid Novell to attend the OOXML meetings - http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101225131233783 #fb | Dec 27 15:46 | |
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| MinceR | i don't even see the point in buying dHell | Dec 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | anyway | Dec 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | it's just garbage | Dec 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | also, more damage done by winblows >> http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=200843 | Dec 27 15:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Jakob Nielsen's interesting analysis of usability of Kinect - http://www.useit.com/alertbox/kinect-gesture-ux.html #fb | Dec 27 15:53 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi, MinceR | Dec 27 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Hi, MadRobot I meant... | Dec 27 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Jeremy Hunt impartial? Demand a Competition Commission investigation into Murdoch's BSkyB power grab. http://bit.ly/fk0upV | Dec 27 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Mandriva 2010.2 Screenshots Tour http://bit.ly/fyTWt7 similar to older versions | Dec 27 15:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 38 Degrees | Jeremy Hunt is not impartial .::. Size~: 13.52 KB | Dec 27 15:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @timbl /me thinks status.net twitter etc accounts should be defined by a single URI | Dec 27 16:00 | |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I wanted to ask you. | Dec 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | "♻ @maymaym: The only 416 words you need to read to get how #capitalism has been entirely rotted: http://nyti.ms/fS7nRE" | Dec 27 16:00 |
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| MadRobot | schestowitz, do you know anything about MLM? | Dec 27 16:00 |
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| schestowitz | "What would happen if a clutch of big banks decided that a particularly irksome blogger or other organization was “too risky”? What if they decided — one by one — to shut down financial access to a newspaper that was about to reveal irksome truths about their operations? This decision should not be left solely up to business-as-usual among the banks." Corrupt system | Dec 27 16:00 |
| schestowitz | MadRobot: Multi-level marketing?! | Dec 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Mail List Manager? | Dec 27 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] QQ coin for netizens who hunt suspects - http://bit.ly/fDlJc2 story from the future: paying the human flesh search engine with virtual money | Dec 27 16:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: QQ coin for netizens who hunt suspects - People's Daily Online .::. Size~: 30.51 KB | Dec 27 16:01 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, Multi-Level Marking | Dec 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz | It | Dec 27 16:01 |
| MadRobot | Marketing* | Dec 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz | 's fraud | Dec 27 16:01 |
| MinceR | the new name for "ponzi scheme" | Dec 27 16:01 |
| schestowitz | But legal in some places | Dec 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Cause hey! Who needs egulation? | Dec 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Let the mar^H^H^H^Hcrooks decide | Dec 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz | MadRobot: it's what the banks everywhere do | Dec 27 16:02 |
| MinceR | > 'cause hey! who needs to stop crime perpetrated by rich people? | Dec 27 16:02 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Dec 27 16:02 |
| schestowitz | They take your money and lend it to someone else | Dec 27 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Multi-level.. | Dec 27 16:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: Microsoft tried 2 buy Yahoo! but didn't. Let's hope Yahoo! buys Microsoft, as that would ensure Microsoft dies. #yahooligan | Dec 27 16:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gift A Stranger gives unwanted presents a new life in a far off land - http://bit.ly/fMOFDl acts of #altruism to random strangers | Dec 27 16:03 | |
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| schestowitz | And create those bubbles they can juggle, then cry to their 'government' (puppets) to loot the people via tax | Dec 27 16:03 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I'm not sure. | Dec 27 16:04 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I know a group of my college friends who are involved in one of them famous MLM companies, and they're doing pretty good. I'm not sure. | Dec 27 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A mom from Minnesota uses Facebook to find her daughter a kidney - http://bit.ly/hiZYhE likely to become common, no? #facebook | Dec 27 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @neilhimself: Good news for @booktrust.. at least, I hope it is: http://bbc.in/ed6iAG | Dec 27 16:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] And the best distro of 2010 is ... http://bit.ly/eTzUvG Mint wins | Dec 27 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@timbl I'm curious, do you have a critique of @twitter's /#!/... pseudo-URL scheme? | Dec 27 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Ogg Theora a free and open standard? http://bit.ly/gUHM9Z with #ISO being corruptible, it doesn't mean so much anyway. Ogg is #Freesw | Dec 27 16:08 | |
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| MadRobot | schestowitz, Namely, QNET. | Dec 27 16:08 |
| schestowitz | [16:05] <MadRobot> schestowitz, I know a group of my college friends who are involved in one of them famous MLM companies, and they're doing pretty good. I'm not sure. | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Making money doesn't make it good | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | I could sell someone';s blood | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | And make money | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't make it's good | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | The question is, what is their contribution to society? | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | MLM is fraud | Dec 27 16:09 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I agree. But then again, I saw the merchandise they're selling. | Dec 27 16:09 |
| MinceR | fraud often "makes" money, that's what it's for | Dec 27 16:09 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I touched it with my bare hands. | Dec 27 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Biggest money is made by being unethical | Dec 27 16:10 |
| schestowitz | People don't happily give money | Dec 27 16:10 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, It wasn't so bad. :\ | Dec 27 16:10 |
| schestowitz | So those who are being exploited can shed off most | Dec 27 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Watch how Microsoft forces people to pay for something they never asked for | Dec 27 16:10 |
| MadRobot | MinceR, Agreed. | Dec 27 16:10 |
| schestowitz | good news BTW | Dec 27 16:11 |
| MadRobot | <schestowitz> Watch how Microsoft forces people to pay for something they never asked for | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | TimBL is moving closer to identica | Dec 27 16:11 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, Good point. | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | And he gives it publicity this afternoon | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Also: | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Joi Ito leaves CC position | Dec 27 16:11 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, oh God. Really? | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | I think he's in Bhutan | Dec 27 16:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Heavy Facebook users may have weighty amygdalas (Ars): http://bit.ly/e05P70 | Dec 27 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @timbl /me thinks status.net twitter etc accounts should be defined by a single URI | Dec 27 16:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Heavy Facebook users may have weighty amygdalas .::. Size~: 29.62 KB | Dec 27 16:11 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, he quits CC? Why? | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Not quit | Dec 27 16:11 |
| schestowitz | http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/25751 | Dec 27 16:12 |
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| MadRobot | schestowitz, thanks. | Dec 27 16:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Infographic: New Lenses of Wealth - http://bit.ly/h9Xjze "compliment" or "complement"? nice idea, anyway #wealth | Dec 27 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Q&A with @work_matters - How to detect an asshole boss when interviewing for a job? Replay: http://bit.ly/fmlAUi #oywf #hackmanagement | Dec 27 16:16 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/install-enlightment-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/ new blog? | Dec 27 16:19 |
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| schestowitz | see banner | Dec 27 16:19 |
| schestowitz | So GIMPy | Dec 27 16:19 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, regarding the money aspect, I'm not sure how QNET becoming a get-rich scheme would be a good thing. | Dec 27 16:20 |
| MinceR | consistently misspells "enlightenment" | Dec 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | MadRobot: MLM is always a get-rich scheme for its founders | Dec 27 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @timbl dare I ask your opinion on proposed acct: uris? | Dec 27 16:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think it's potentially a great blog comment system. | Dec 27 16:21 | |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I'm not sure what else isn't. | Dec 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | for people lower in the pyramid, getting rich is a lot less assured | Dec 27 16:22 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, the idea of establishing a business to make money isn't a bad thing, ya know. : / | Dec 27 16:22 |
| schestowitz | another such bannerhttp://www.khattam.info/howto-python-plasmoids-part-1-write-hello-world-plasma-applet-in-python-2010-12-25.html | Dec 27 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [HOWTO] (Python Plasmoids - Part 1) Write Hello World Plasma Applet in Python | The _khAttAm_ blog .::. Size~: 51.56 KB | Dec 27 16:22 |
| MinceR | and of course these systems pretty much guarantee that there will be a lot more people who get screwed by it than people who win | Dec 27 16:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: like the church ;-) | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | >>[[16:21] <MinceR> MadRobot: MLM is always a get-rich scheme for its founders] | Dec 27 16:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 27 16:23 |
| MinceR | churches tend to do more | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | [16:22] <MinceR> for people lower in the pyramid, getting rich is a lot less assured | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | There's hope | Dec 27 16:23 |
| MinceR | they do not only collect money, they also collect influence | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | THat's what MLM is about | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Like the lottery | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | It exploits people's ignorance | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Looting the vulnerable | Dec 27 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Who don't understand probability and think in terms of 'luck' | Dec 27 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Not sure if MLM should be banned | Dec 27 16:24 |
| schestowitz | casinos are banned in some place, but there are loopholes | Dec 27 16:24 |
| schestowitz | [16:22] <MadRobot> schestowitz, the idea of establishing a business to make money isn't a bad thing, ya know. : / | Dec 27 16:24 |
| schestowitz | True | Dec 27 16:24 |
| schestowitz | But you need to check its effect and values | Dec 27 16:25 |
| schestowitz | RMS has an opinion about s/w writing for example | Dec 27 16:25 |
| schestowitz | If someone makes a helmet that helps a pilot shoot houses better or a bomb part, is that good? | Dec 27 16:25 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, I'm not sure. But, is there something wrong for giving people commissions if they bring me more buyers? | Dec 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | depends on whose houses get shot | Dec 27 16:25 |
| MadRobot | with* | Dec 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | i know some people who deserve "Life without Walls" | Dec 27 16:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the ALIE^HZ | Dec 27 16:26 |
| MadRobot | <schestowitz> If someone makes a helmet that helps a pilot shoot houses better or a bomb part, is that good? | Dec 27 16:26 |
| MadRobot | No, it's not. But again, that's not what QNET sells, ya know. : \ | Dec 27 16:26 |
| schestowitz | "I'm only trying to make money" | Dec 27 16:26 |
| schestowitz | "I have a wife and kids to feed" | Dec 27 16:26 |
| schestowitz | "I have a mortgage" | Dec 27 16:26 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_Orders | Dec 27 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Superior Orders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 93.87 KB | Dec 27 16:27 |
| schestowitz | "In the Christopher Buckley novel Thank You for Smoking and its film adaptation, the main character Nick Naylor justifies his career to a reporter by telling her that "Everybody has a mortgage to pay," and referring to his response as the "Yuppie Nuremberg Defense."" | Dec 27 16:27 |
| schestowitz | MadRobot: but ask the friends how people in the bottom of their MLM pyramid feel | Dec 27 16:28 |
| schestowitz | They are equal people after all | Dec 27 16:28 |
| schestowitz | I know many people who don't; mind chasing lottery prizes their entire life | Dec 27 16:28 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, not really. My friends are actually working as a team. | Dec 27 16:28 |
| schestowitz | Even if they never win they might enjoy the fantasies | Dec 27 16:28 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, lottery is completely stupid. I agree. | Dec 27 16:28 |
| schestowitz | THat's why lottery with limit in bidding can be acceptable | Dec 27 16:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @timbl Currently, there is servername/api and servername/username. Are you suggesting something like servername/username/api ? | Dec 27 16:30 | |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, my friends tell me that they never let any of their mates fail. They work together so that each and everyone of them can succeed. | Dec 27 16:32 |
| MinceR | good for them | Dec 27 16:32 |
| MinceR | not so good for those who happen to be under them :> | Dec 27 16:33 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, btw, I'm not with or against the idea, but I'm just trying to be a little bit balanced between the two sides. | Dec 27 16:33 |
| schestowitz | [16:32] <MadRobot> schestowitz, my friends tell me that they never let any of their mates fail. They work together so that each and everyone of them can succeed. | Dec 27 16:36 |
| MadRobot | MinceR, I have seen how they present the business to ppl. While they try hard to win a new member, they also make it very clear that this business isn't a get-rich-fast scheme, and that it does require a fair amount of effort. | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | At whose expense? | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | MLM is not a value out-of-nothing thing | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Unless...................... THEY GET BAILOUT!! :-) | Dec 27 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @glynmoody "Denier" is an offensive perjorative. Using that term is equivalent to using America's n-word. "AGW skeptic" is far better term. | Dec 27 16:36 | |
| MinceR | a fair amount of effort to find new marks | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Bonuses, bonuses, bonuses... but | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | The externality is then the taxpayer | Dec 27 16:36 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: bailout is not a value-out-of-nothing thing either | Dec 27 16:36 |
| MadRobot | <schestowitz> MLM is not a value out-of-nothing thing | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I.e. EVERYBODY :-) | Dec 27 16:36 |
| MadRobot | What is? | Dec 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather volunteer in African than defraud people for a living | Dec 27 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Some people I spoke to were insulted when I explained to them their inpact on society when they make money. Some do real work.. farmers, builders... | Dec 27 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Import is hardly a real job | Dec 27 16:38 |
| MadRobot | Is there anything at all that is a value-out-of-nothing? | Dec 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | It only helps exterminate the local production | Dec 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Salespeople are often middlemen | Dec 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Like bankers and lawyers | Dec 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Marketers are paid to lie to people | Dec 27 16:38 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, does the grocery store next door use a philosopher's stone to turn sand into gold? | Dec 27 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Or to create desires that harm them rather than help them | Dec 27 16:38 |
| MadRobot | <schestowitz> Marketers are paid to lie to people | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Peer pressure, as in "you're ugly, buy some beauty products, get surgery" or "you miss something your friends have, buy it to get new friends" | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | That's PR | Dec 27 16:39 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, That's what I keep telling people. | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | [16:38] <MadRobot> Is there anything at all that is a value-out-of-nothing? | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Extraction | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Proessing | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Refinement | Dec 27 16:39 |
| schestowitz | Jobs move things or instruct people to move things | Dec 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | The "things" are the items on Earth | Dec 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Which we have a finite amount of unless a comet hits | Dec 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | And the Sun's energy can be made into mass+energy | Dec 27 16:40 |
| MinceR | not all creation of value is centered around moving matter | Dec 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | Or energy and then to mass | Dec 27 16:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: combining it is moving it | Dec 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | We move atoms around | Dec 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Some are responsible for instructing others how to move them around | Dec 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | [to simplify it radically] | Dec 27 16:41 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61137057 | Dec 27 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Norbert Evenich (evenorbert)'s status on Monday, 27-Dec-10 16:28:14 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Sadly, very one sided. Maybe best Debian/Ubuntu based distro of 2010... For me 1. Mandriva, 2. Fedora. | Dec 27 16:42 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: my job is to create information | Dec 27 16:42 |
| MinceR | not to move atoms around, which is merely a method | Dec 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | So you move bits around and that in turn mobilises people who do physical work | Dec 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | "Information worker"/"Knowledge worker" | Dec 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | =bureaucracy | Dec 27 16:43 |
| MinceR | no, it turn tells a machine what to do :> | Dec 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | With exploration of new ways of arrange mass | Dec 27 16:43 |
| MinceR | s/it/it in/ | Dec 27 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Like making space shuttles | Dec 27 16:43 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: you talk as if you haven't heard of software engineering :> | Dec 27 16:44 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what does the machine do? | Dec 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | depends | Dec 27 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Scan a patient/ | Dec 27 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Picking up signal like eletrons and counting them | Dec 27 16:44 |
| schestowitz | ? | Dec 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | nope | Dec 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | at least not yet | Dec 27 16:44 |
| MadRobot | schestowitz, unfortunately, a machine can also gate-rape people. :( | Dec 27 16:45 |
| MinceR | kinky | Dec 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Dec 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | KinkOS | Dec 27 16:45 |
| MinceR | introducing the RapeBot 9000! | Dec 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | aka Windows 7.1 | Dec 27 16:45 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | It has 2 ARMs | Dec 27 16:45 |
| schestowitz | And a boot sector | Dec 27 16:46 |
| MinceR | vista7 can't run on ARM, though | Dec 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you can emulate it | Dec 27 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Can you build wine for arm? | Dec 27 16:46 |
| MinceR | doubtful | Dec 27 16:47 |
| MinceR | afaik wine loads winblows code for x86 | Dec 27 16:47 |
| MinceR | and interfaces with it | Dec 27 16:47 |
| MinceR | running it on ARM would require cpu emulation | Dec 27 16:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @charlesschulz Which is good. I'd still like an example of a FOSS Stiftung though. | Dec 27 16:48 | |
| MinceR | you could run wine on qemu on arm, though | Dec 27 16:48 |
| MinceR | or just winblows in qemu on arm | Dec 27 16:48 |
| MinceR | but those are cheating | Dec 27 16:48 |
| schestowitz | why go that route anyway? | Dec 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Has Windows had a killer app recently? | Dec 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Seriouly. | Dec 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | A lot of killer apps are web based | Dec 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Google search for example | Dec 27 16:49 |
| schestowitz | Wikipedia | Dec 27 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Killer app from Microsoft: "RapeBot 9000!" | Dec 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | yes, winblows itself is the killer app | Dec 27 16:50 |
| schestowitz | It helps the user rape bots | Dec 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | performance killer | Dec 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | productivity killer | Dec 27 16:50 |
| MinceR | security killer | Dec 27 16:50 |
| schestowitz | How much disk space does the GOogle requir? | Dec 27 16:51 |
| MinceR | terabytes? | Dec 27 16:51 |
| MinceR | ask google | Dec 27 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I was saying that as a n00b user | Dec 27 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Thinking it's an app | Dec 27 16:51 |
| MinceR | it is | Dec 27 16:51 |
| MinceR | it's a web app :> | Dec 27 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Blank stare with the people who click on "the Internet" [blue E] | Dec 27 16:51 |
| MinceR | sucks to be them | Dec 27 16:52 |
| schestowitz | The same people whom you ask, "what is the purpose of planet Earth" and then get a blank stare | Dec 27 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Or those to whom scale of Web is hard to grasp | Dec 27 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Let alone the notion we have all the knowledge the body needs compressed in egg+sperm | Dec 27 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @folksonomy: Chaos Computer Club live conference from Berlin: http://27c3.fem-net.de/ | Dec 27 16:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Official Streams – 27C3 .::. Size~: 2.45 KB | Dec 27 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Or that ourselves, let alone the whole planet, is hardly a bit of dust in the universe, maybe among several | Dec 27 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Google is big | Dec 27 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Scary big | Dec 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | not all the knowledge | Dec 27 16:53 |
| MinceR | some knowledge is memetic | Dec 27 16:53 |
| schestowitz | And they crawl IIRC taking up to like 10% of the 'pipes'' bandwidth | Dec 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Then you have YouTUbe... | Dec 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | But cable and Net infrstructure converge | Dec 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Google Trends tells you something... | Dec 27 16:54 |
| schestowitz | It tells you how long they have been retaining all the logs for their very smart researchers to play with at macro-scale | Dec 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | This data is usage and output from people, with their IP address/location | Dec 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | They can justify this as "added value" to products | Dec 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | But it's also an antifeature from the other side | Dec 27 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Next month I might do something at grand scale too | Dec 27 16:57 |
| schestowitz | If all goes well I'll get back to analysing face images again for a whole | Dec 27 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Millions of them | Dec 27 16:58 |
| MinceR | not all memes spread on the tubes | Dec 27 16:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Could !MeeGo Linux breathe new life into older tablets? http://bit.ly/gKtriu very modern operating system | Dec 27 17:01 | |
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| schestowitz | I decided to return to faces in January despite receiving offers in the other areas - because I had heard that computer vision strives to absorb scientists/investigators. It's a hot field that attracts research funding. | Dec 27 17:05 |
| schestowitz | I must admit that I am discouraged to find it so hard to receive | Dec 27 17:06 |
| schestowitz | financial aid from federal sources though, just industry or academic. | Dec 27 17:06 |
| MinceR | faces? | Dec 27 17:06 |
| schestowitz | It's still fun and it's good to receive this paid batch of projects after huge monetary investment in 10 years of education with world-renowned professors. It's just seems misguided for govt. not to pump more money into it, with recessions and all. | Dec 27 17:07 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: like face tracking/recognition | Dec 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Sadly helps the bad guys | Dec 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Surveillance sometimes | Dec 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | I'm lucky to have finished it all before the insane tories tax education | Dec 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | How moronic | Dec 27 17:08 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | They need to realise education is what makes industry rather than soldiers | Dec 27 17:08 |
| schestowitz | And now they decrease incentive for young people to go to college | Dec 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | And help the banksters | Dec 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Who will give more student loans | Dec 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Insane! | Dec 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Actually not | Dec 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Sane | Dec 27 17:09 |
| schestowitz | That's how broken system is supposed to work | Dec 27 17:09 |
| *MadRobot has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Dec 27 17:10 | |
| schestowitz | It's insane if people are suddenly treated like they run their government | Dec 27 17:10 |
| MinceR | they've realized that they don't want people to be educated | Dec 27 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Exactly | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Make them turn 18 | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Broke | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | No money to go to university | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | So... | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Join army | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Or | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Join police force (to repress educated people who rebel) | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Or | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Become a wage slave | Dec 27 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Or | Dec 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Take a loan | Dec 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Spend the next 30 years paying a tax to people who constructed this set of conditions | Dec 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Or | Dec 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz | Find refuge somewhere else, if there are places that have not yet been tainted | Dec 27 17:13 |
| schestowitz | How's Or Ban doing with the economy? | Dec 27 17:13 |
| MinceR | wrecking it | Dec 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz | I remember them staging 'pulling a Greece' | Dec 27 17:14 |
| MinceR | scaring investors away with randomly imposed taxes | Dec 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz | "Pay us money. We broke [sic]." | Dec 27 17:14 |
| MinceR | he doesn't tax his friends, though | Dec 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz | They offer him protection | Dec 27 17:14 |
| MinceR | also destroying the value of HUF | Dec 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz | You'll know he went rogue when he grows a moustache | Dec 27 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Like MLM | Dec 27 17:15 |
| MinceR | like when they got power and shorted it immediately (claiming that the state is going bankrupt) | Dec 27 17:15 |
| MinceR | they'll eventually make the state go bankrupt | Dec 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Mao-Lenin (Marxism-Leninism-Maoism) | Dec 27 17:15 |
| MinceR | putinism | Dec 27 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Says the NYT | Dec 27 17:15 |
| MinceR | pretty accurate | Dec 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Was he amy general? | Dec 27 17:16 |
| MinceR | nope | Dec 27 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Or Mercedes slaesman? | Dec 27 17:16 |
| MinceR | just some small fry in the commie party (which was called mszmp back then) | Dec 27 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intelligent Theft - http://bit.ly/efUwKm "Beatles songs started out with them trying to “do” another artist" #copyright | Dec 27 17:16 | |
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| MinceR | when he saw the russian empire crumbling, he took up teh great freedom fighter act | Dec 27 17:16 |
| MinceR | he denounced the party-state dictatorship then, now he's building his own | Dec 27 17:18 |
| schestowitz | BTW, the deamonFreac is back | Dec 27 17:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oh, I seee... | Dec 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz | So it's the critic=anarchist method | Dec 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz | I saw this labeling | Dec 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz | If {criticises system} then {wants no government} fallacy | Dec 27 17:20 |
| MinceR | nah, the current labeling is a nationalist one | Dec 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz | False dichonomy | Dec 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz | If {you're not with us} then {you're with the terrorists" | Dec 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Nothing in betwen | Dec 27 17:21 |
| MinceR | he claims that his critics are non-hungarian and that his critics serve the "oligarchs" (oligarchs like him) | Dec 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: elaborate | Dec 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | What nationalist one? | Dec 27 17:21 |
| MinceR | (and his biggest supporters, and the biggest supporters of the commies) | Dec 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Like if you criticise Hungary policies, then you're anti-Hungary | Dec 27 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Intelligent Theft - http://bit.ly/efUwKm "Beatles songs started out with them trying to “do” another artist" #copyright | Dec 27 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Man quits job, makes living suing e-mail spammers - http://yhoo.it/i1eqKC the biter bit (via @p2pnet) #spam | Dec 27 17:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody: #Groklaw will continue. A lot of us support PJ in her efforts. It all comes down to ethics. Something Bill Goat doesn't get. | Dec 27 17:21 | |
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| MinceR | yes | Dec 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Or people berate you? | Dec 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Inability to self-criticise? | Dec 27 17:21 |
| MinceR | claiming to represent all of "hungarian people" | Dec 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | I commend Americans (many of them anyway) for not taking offence when their system is criticised | Dec 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Other nations are not civilised likethat | Dec 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | They get indoctrinated to bedevil sceptics | Dec 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | EVEN FROM WITHIN | Dec 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Political religion of sorts | Dec 27 17:22 |
| MinceR | after losing the previous election, he said bullshit like "the mother country can not be in opposition" | Dec 27 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Mother country is Hitler talk | Dec 27 17:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Indicator-Virtualbox adds quick-click OS launching to your panel http://ping.fm/OSFVb | Dec 27 17:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indicator-Virtualbox adds quick-click OS launching to your panel .::. Size~: 33.76 KB | Dec 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Be careful there... | Dec 27 17:23 |
| MinceR | now there's the "declaration of national collaboration" | Dec 27 17:23 |
| MinceR | i'm careful, these nazis aren't | Dec 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | what's that? | Dec 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Single-party state | Dec 27 17:23 |
| schestowitz | As in, let's harmonise parties? | Dec 27 17:24 |
| MinceR | some bullshit writing that he mandated to be displayed in all government offices | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | So that "We can do all we want", no contest foreseen? | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Diversity is needed | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Opposites | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | To balance each other | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | And offer choice | Dec 27 17:24 |
| MinceR | single-party state, totalitarianism, dictatorship -> he calls that a "central field of force" | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Democrats and Republicans for example are both war parties | Dec 27 17:24 |
| schestowitz | So most important questions are off the agenda | Dec 27 17:24 |
| MinceR | (keep in mind that my translations might be somewhat flawed) | Dec 27 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @canadiancynic: BREAKING! Maritimes pounded by weather, http://bit.ly/fUICTy; capitalist, smaller govt wanks wonder where federal aid is. | Dec 27 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TorontoPolice: [video] Highway of Heroes Cpl Steve Martin @CDNREPAT #cdnrepat http://fb.me/R96XT0N8 /via @1800222TIPS | Dec 27 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @canadiancynic: P.S. I think a Cdn remake of "Red Dawn" would be awesome. I see Don Cherry, leading the crack 101st Fighting Keyboardists | Dec 27 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ThePMSaidSo: It's not that I *want* an election, but rather that I want to *win* an election. SNORKLE. | Dec 27 17:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: Ombudsman Top 10 of 2010 coming soon... | Dec 27 17:25 | |
| MinceR | he can't tolerate criticism or opposition | Dec 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | [17:24] <MinceR> (keep in mind that my translations might be somewhat flawed) | Dec 27 17:25 |
| MinceR | that manifests in the new censorship laws as well | Dec 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: mother country is Hitler talk | Dec 27 17:25 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: not the same word in hungarian | Dec 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Like you drink from your soil'd tit | Dec 27 17:25 |
| schestowitz | soil's | Dec 27 17:25 |
| MinceR | just what the dictionary brings up for "haza" | Dec 27 17:25 |
| MinceR | could also be translated as "home", "country" or "nation" | Dec 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | Or people as citizen of one bit of soil/asphalt | Dec 27 17:26 |
| MinceR | but in the end, it's a dictatorship supported by nationalist propaganda | Dec 27 17:26 |
| MinceR | so it's basically the same thing in the end | Dec 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | "Don't criticise my mother" | Dec 27 17:26 |
| MinceR | btw, it's "father country" in german :> | Dec 27 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: No 10: SYT IV Ombud course we offered to the world 4th. Sold out. We must be doing something right: http://bit.ly/a9dTTV | Dec 27 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @canadiancynic: Dear Canadian military: Don Cherry got to go home to his cushy job while you're still getting shot at. Happy hero worship | Dec 27 17:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ombudsman Ontario — Welcome to the Ombudsman of Ontario Website .::. Size~: 14.55 KB | Dec 27 17:26 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: brother country in 1984 | Dec 27 17:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 27 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: No 9: #MUSH momentum. Growing recognition that keeping the O away from areas like schools & hospitals makes no sense. | Dec 27 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Righthaven disputes fair use defense in copyright case - which some have called "troll" litigation" http://bit.ly/hmkpCD | Dec 27 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Mimi and Eunice: Bars http://j.mp/fbu8A2 | Dec 27 17:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Righthaven disputes fair use defense in copyright case - Monday, Dec. 27, 2010 | 2:05 a.m. - Las Vegas Sun .::. Size~: 88.46 KB | Dec 27 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bars « Mimi and Eunice .::. Size~: 62.51 KB | Dec 27 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Is Or Ban a computer idiot? I mean, I only know about censorship but not about copyright | Dec 27 17:29 |
| schestowitz | If he's messing up technology, then we should profile him on Techrights with indictments | Dec 27 17:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @canadiancynic: "Losers don't get to form coalitions," says @pmharper, http://bit.ly/gud31A. Quite so - they get appointed to the Senate | Dec 27 17:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Lessig: Demolish the FCC: advocates "benign neglect" - must read http://bit.ly/enqxtl | Dec 27 17:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nothing wrong with coalition governments: GG | Canada | News | Toronto Sun .::. Size~: 62.87 KB | Dec 27 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lessig: It's Time to Demolish the FCC - Newsweek .::. Size~: 40.51 KB | Dec 27 17:30 |
| MinceR | not sure about his aptitude | Dec 27 17:30 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Magyar http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Hungary | Dec 27 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Magyar - Techrights .::. Size~: 16.77 KB | Dec 27 17:30 |
| MinceR | but he is the one who introduced censorship of internet access -- currently only as part of the censorship law, there's no technical implementation of it yet, afaik | Dec 27 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hungary - Techrights .::. Size~: 13.55 KB | Dec 27 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Hungary page a day old, 100 pageviews... | Dec 27 17:30 |
| MinceR | then again, there were some instances of internet censorship in this joke of a country already | Dec 27 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Stalin/Putin on 4chan? | Dec 27 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Derogatorily? | Dec 27 17:31 |
| MinceR | closing down a particular far-right website, repeatedly | Dec 27 17:31 |
| MinceR | until they rehosted abroad | Dec 27 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Antiwar.com: White House Terms Permanent Detention Without Trial ‘Regrettable’ http://ur1.ca/2oo3v #democracy #FAIL | Dec 27 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] One of @jhibbets Open*Life favorites of 2010: From information overload to Dark Ages 2.0? | http://bit.ly/9NRC7i | Dec 27 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Groklaw is a fantastic resource, and it gets more valuable every day. | Dec 27 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @telecomix We also have i2p and La Quadrature du Net stickers. Limited free offer :D | Dec 27 17:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: White House Terms Permanent Detention Without Trial ‘Regrettable’ -- News from Antiwar.com .::. Size~: 35.45 KB | Dec 27 17:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: From information overload to Dark Ages 2.0? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 46.82 KB | Dec 27 17:31 |
| schestowitz | But Or Ban is also far *from) right | Dec 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | *(from) | Dec 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Was it competing with him? | Dec 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 27 17:32 |
| MinceR | orban is far right, but not so far as those | Dec 27 17:32 |
| schestowitz | I guess they could appeal to some of his strongest supporters | Dec 27 17:32 |
| MinceR | anyway, orban wasn't in power back then | Dec 27 17:32 |
| MinceR | it was the commies | Dec 27 17:32 |
| MinceR | the commies who made the law that makes it illegal to deny or lessen the holocaust, but not to do the same to the crimes of the commies | Dec 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | So OrBan is like UKIP in the UK? | Dec 27 17:33 |
| MinceR | orban is constantly making gestures to the further right, though | Dec 27 17:33 |
| MinceR | not sure | Dec 27 17:33 |
| MinceR | i'm not up-to-date on lesser parties in the UK | Dec 27 17:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5jUavMXQrs | Dec 27 17:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - UKIP Nigel Farage Insults EU President In Parliament FULL Clip Uncut - Funny Video! .::. Size~: 130.02 KB | Dec 27 17:34 |
| MinceR | afaik van rompy deserves a lot of insult | Dec 27 17:34 |
| MinceR | s/py/puy/ | Dec 27 17:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Gamers will Buy http://bit.ly/gihxeS freedom is not cheapness | Dec 27 17:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] well heck, I just >had< to join the !identiverse group since kevie and I do our "hello-goodbye" dance pretty much daily | Dec 27 17:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thoughts on Technology: Linux Gamers will Buy .::. Size~: 77.96 KB | Dec 27 17:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/22/bankster-robberies-b.html | Dec 27 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bankster robberies: Bank of America and friends wrongfully foreclose on customers, steal all their belongings - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 105.34 KB | Dec 27 17:40 |
| schestowitz | [17:33] <MinceR> i'm not up-to-date on lesser parties in the UK | Dec 27 17:40 |
| schestowitz | As long as UKIP and BNP can dilute each other's base, that's OK | Dec 27 17:40 |
| schestowitz | for those to whom Tories ain't right enough | Dec 27 17:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8209311/Japanese-woman-sues-Google-for-displaying-images-of-underwear.html | Dec 27 17:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Japanese woman sues Google for displaying images of underwear - Telegraph .::. Size~: 67.38 KB | Dec 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Did she worry about horny men coming 'round the house? | Dec 27 17:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] designing a game....really hope it works out =3 | Dec 27 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @isabela: Claro, Embratel, Net Virtua ainda estão bloqueando o Centro de Mídia Independente http://ur1.ca/2o0li | Dec 27 17:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CMI Brasil - 10 anos de CMI - Alerta para CENSURA! .::. Size~: 53.99 KB | Dec 27 17:45 |
| *amarsh04 was impressed how many more Comes vs Microsoft documents have been ocr'd and posted on groklaw.net in the last week | Dec 27 17:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @eLiberatica: Net neutrality - wait and see the end of the open Internet http://is.gd/jxJfw | Dec 27 17:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Hungary is becoming a one-party state with censorship under Orban's iron fist. Scary symptoms. http://wapo.st/hvC2xu history books, fast! | Dec 27 17:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Putinization of Hungary .::. Size~: 83.44 KB | Dec 27 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Julian #Assange a Journalist? http://bit.ly/fgKLi3 what's a journalist anyway? You needn't always be a shrink to analyse human behaviour | Dec 27 17:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Julian Assange a Journalist? - Reason Magazine .::. Size~: 237.96 KB | Dec 27 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is a journalist a blogger who spends more time per blog post and publishes in pages loaded with unwanted ads and never a hyperlink/biblio.? | Dec 27 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Android Update Latest – Edition 414: VLC Player Coming to Android in “Matter of Weeks” After debuting on iPhone ... http://bit.ly/hRJXLX | Dec 27 17:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz #Hungary is becoming a one-party state with censorship under Orban's iron fist. Scary symptoms. http://wapo.st/hvC2xu hi ... | Dec 27 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One law for them, another for us:is it illegal to record the police on the job? http://bit.ly/ejccvA something Superman-like abt the uniform | Dec 27 17:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What is a policeman? A member of the public with different clothes, elevated privileges (sudo make me an officer), operates on command | Dec 27 17:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Putinization of Hungary .::. Size~: 83.44 KB | Dec 27 17:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: One law for them, another for us: is it illegal to record the police on the job? - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 88.61 KB | Dec 27 17:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@evenorbert for me, Fedora 14 works well. I might try something like Mint soon. Burned the CD this month... | Dec 27 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Linux Mint Debian Edition Now Available - http://is.gd/jzrBY #debian #LMDE #Linux | Dec 27 18:00 | |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: I hope they make use of those I already did with wallclimber | Dec 27 18:00 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: how much is the EU being not democratically governed van rompuy's fault? | Dec 27 18:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Mint Debian Edition Now Available - Linux Magazine Online .::. Size~: 37.73 KB | Dec 27 18:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: not sure, I don"t follow eu PARTISANSHIP | Dec 27 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Dec 27 18:02 |
| schestowitz | CAPS gone opposite | Dec 27 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rsandu ♺ @linux_pro: Linux Mint Debian Edition Now Available - http://is.gd/jzrBY #debian #LMDE #Linux | Dec 27 18:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Bryan Adams Live MTV Unplugged !lastfm | Dec 27 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @opensourcegeek: At #lo hq, just started the show | Dec 27 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101220/23143712353/congress-brings-back-recently-removed-ip-subcommittee-now-that-copyright-reformer-wont-lead-it.shtml | Dec 27 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congress Brings Back Recently Removed 'IP Subcommittee' Now That Copyright Reformer Won't Lead It | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.18 KB | Dec 27 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Oh, look who's back | Dec 27 18:08 |
| schestowitz | !google daemontroll | Dec 27 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Hate crimes against LGBT community increase in 2009 | Minnesota ... | http://minnesotaindependent.com/61798/hate-crimes-against-lgbt-community-increase-in-2009 | Dec 27 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - And now for something completely different... *NSFW update* | http://www.chaos-dwarfs.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ftid%3D2918%26pid%3D128924 | Dec 27 18:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - PEP Web - Part II. in Honor of Melanie Klein: The Inner World in ... | http://www.pep-web.org/document.php%3Fid%3Dpaq.022.0602c | Dec 27 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | what is that exactly? | Dec 27 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Dec 27 18:08 |
| *DaemonFC goofed and ran out of meds, had to call some in | Dec 27 18:08 | |
| DaemonFC | stupid Christmas.... | Dec 27 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 27 18:09 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz I noticed that in one of sfconservancy.org's faif podcasts bkuhn compared the number of syllables in in-tell-ect-u-al prop-er-ty with cop-y-rights, pa-tents and trade-marks (8 versus 7) | Dec 27 18:09 |
| amarsh04 | or 8 each if you cound "and" | Dec 27 18:10 |
| amarsh04 | count "and" even | Dec 27 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | they've got me on so much Lithium now I'm having muscle spasms, and they try to tell me the stuff isn't toxic | Dec 27 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | I have no idea what to do really | Dec 27 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux - http://bit.ly/dTLOlT wow, this looks big #russia #linux #putin | Dec 27 18:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | nothing like a little unilateralism, good for the soul | Dec 27 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101222/17002012390/eus-main-acta-supporter-caught-lying-about-acta.shtml | Dec 27 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EU's Main ACTA Supporter Caught Lying About ACTA | Techdirt .::. Size~: 82.94 KB | Dec 27 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] A New Open-Source AMD OverDrive Utility For Linux: AMD has allowed their Radeon GPUs to be overclocked on Linux ... http://bit.ly/fLN5eN | Dec 27 18:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] A New Open-Source AMD OverDrive Utility For Linux .::. Size~: 18.53 KB | Dec 27 18:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no seizures yet? | Dec 27 18:13 |
| amarsh04 | I've seen far more interest in people wanting to clock down their radeon gpu's in #radeon | Dec 27 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | unless you count October, I fell and took out a glass coffee table | Dec 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | what's going on wha radeonhd/ | Dec 27 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't feel like going to the emergency room for a band-aid and an $8,000 bill again :) | Dec 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | With all of Novell in limbo and it being called dead | Dec 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | [the driver] | Dec 27 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I think Luc said so | Dec 27 18:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "@bkuhn compared the number of syllables in in-tell-ect-u-al prop-er-ty with cop-y-rights, pa-tents and trade-marks (8 versus 7)" -amarsh | Dec 27 18:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux - http://bit.ly/dTLOlT wow, this looks big #russia #linux #putin | Dec 27 18:15 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: use babababacae | Dec 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | radeonhd is dead and buried and has been for a while now | Dec 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | So AMD wasted money] | Dec 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | They should have gone w/ Red Hat | Dec 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | They almost did | Dec 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of money, and Red Hat has ended up doing the entire thing from scratch anyway | Dec 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | And they got angry at Novell | Dec 27 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | they are working with Red Hat now | Dec 27 18:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ok | Dec 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | adamw helps with some driver testing toio | Dec 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva is in Russia now | Dec 27 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | they spend a good couple years spinning their wheels with Novell and now not even OpenSuse uses that driver | Dec 27 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Government 2010 - Lawrence Lessig’s new journey (part one) | http://bit.ly/9DfDqn | Dec 27 18:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved | Dec 27 18:16 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, Mandriva releases Russi | Dec 27 18:16 |
| amarsh04 | radeon has all the features that radeonhd had and more | Dec 27 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, for a while, you had to use one or the other depending on your card and what features were important to you, but radeon has a superset of radeonhd's features now | Dec 27 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not really a choice | Dec 27 18:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.myce.com/news/major-record-labels-recruit-mastercard-to-be-copyright-cops-37982/ | Dec 27 18:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RIAA, MPAA recruit MasterCard to help them police the Internet | MyCE – My Consumer Electronics .::. Size~: 42.77 KB | Dec 27 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | I can get away with using the FOSS drivers on my old system with the 4670, but I'm stuck with FGLRX on this system, the free driver only has very crude support for 5670 | Dec 27 18:18 |
| schestowitz | PayPal starves X | Dec 27 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Kwin compositing sort of works but it really unusable, KMS and 2d work nicely, no fan control | Dec 27 18:19 |
| MinceR | ...and keeps the money | Dec 27 18:19 |
| amarsh04 | a very recent kernel helps also - there are even patches for r600 and evergreen post 2.6.37-rc7 | Dec 27 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | Paypal really sucks, I don't use it at all if I have a choice | Dec 27 18:19 |
| schestowitz | Now they take from mandex' defence fund | Dec 27 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | ebay uses it as another layer to shake you down | Dec 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | mendax. | Dec 27 18:20 |
| amarsh04 | compiling 2.6.37-rc7-git4 now | Dec 27 18:20 |
| schestowitz | what does it mean anyway/ | Dec 27 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Men Durex? | Dec 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | deception, or something like that, iirc | Dec 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | look it up :> | Dec 27 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Mendoza? | Dec 27 18:20 |
| MinceR | Vasquez? | Dec 27 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably going to be a while before radeon works on this card, in the mean time I'm just glad that fglrx has improved enough that the really annoying crap it did is gone | Dec 27 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting definition of "lifetime" we have going on here# | Dec 27 18:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it'll be supported before AMD decides my card is obsolete and no more fglrx for me, so thats something I guess | Dec 27 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | that happened on my laptop and I was stuck on Ubuntu 8.04 for a while | Dec 27 18:23 |
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| *amarsh04 uses a local bank on the same ISP - and hasn't had trouble with using the visa debit for overseas purchases | Dec 27 18:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] or was it "permanent"? I can't remember the exact wording | Dec 27 18:23 | |
| DaemonFC | I switched over to an internet bank, the ones around here like to pick and choose which stores their debit card works at | Dec 27 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | if the store won't pay the fee, that bank's card won't work | Dec 27 18:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Web attacks target human rights sites http://bbc.in/dWScFm doing good is "going evil" in the eyes of those in power they enjoy | Dec 27 18:25 | |
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| MinceR | i should probably look into getting an austrian bank account | Dec 27 18:25 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: did you change the IRC policy? or was I right in thinking "permenant" actually meant" temporary"? | Dec 27 18:25 |
| MinceR | our local dictator seems to be very fond of stealing private property lately | Dec 27 18:26 |
| amarsh04 | worth checking http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature occasionally | Dec 27 18:26 |
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| DaemonFC | I think they call that eminent domain, MinceR | Dec 27 18:26 |
| MinceR | nope | Dec 27 18:26 |
| MinceR | they call that "removing power from the constitutional court" | Dec 27 18:26 |
| MinceR | and "ending the constitutional state" | Dec 27 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's no legal basis for doing that there? | Dec 27 18:27 |
| MinceR | sadly, the international news coverage only seems to consider the elimination of freedom of press | Dec 27 18:27 |
| MinceR | no, there's no legal basis for it | Dec 27 18:27 |
| MinceR | so ruled the constitutional court | Dec 27 18:27 |
| MinceR | so they removed its authority | Dec 27 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | here they just make up some joke figure, like half what your stuff is really worth, and force you to sell it for that, say it's the market value | Dec 27 18:27 |
| MinceR | but they'll replace the constitution with some religious bullshit anyway | Dec 27 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nothing manages to incite the crowd (e.g. with mobbyists) against the very same progressive people who help like the Murdoch rags manage | Dec 27 18:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tea Party people honestly believe that they fight for rights of the people when in fact they lobby for 'rights' of corporations, less regul. | Dec 27 18:28 | |
| MinceR | without any word of right to personal property in it, probably | Dec 27 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Connecticut did that back in 2005, bought up a bunch of houses and then sold the land for $1 to Pfizer which bulldozed the place then never actually opened the new facility there | Dec 27 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | so no development, no "jobs", just an emtpy field where a bunch of homeowners were evicted for nothing | Dec 27 18:28 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: he has not been inflammatory or abuse so far. http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/23/tsa-has-no-regular-t.html | Dec 27 18:29 |
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| schestowitz | *abusive | Dec 27 18:29 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: I notice that, I also remember asking you to define it as I knew this day would come, the response was something like "if he shows up I kick him", there was nothin in that about behaviour | Dec 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | When he left it was after he had been banned in another channel which is now secondary | Dec 27 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | the US Supreme Court ruled that the state can use its eminent domain power to seize property to give away to private business and this falls within a legitimate state/public interest | Dec 27 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | that's an outrage, sounds a lot like what you were talking about, MinceR | Dec 27 18:30 |
| MinceR | our dictator decided to steal money from our pension system to temporarily patch holes in the budget | Dec 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: he does no harm today, I hope he changed | Dec 27 18:30 |
| ThistleWeb | there was also nothing about "well, that was the other channel, it doesn't apply here" | Dec 27 18:31 |
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| ThistleWeb | maybe, but from what I see, I took you at your word, which uyou seem to be going back on now | Dec 27 18:31 |
| MinceR | ThistleWeb: it has happened a couple of times already | Dec 27 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's been going on with Social Security here for years, they call it borrowing, because by law they have to give it back sometime at an unspecified date, without interest | Dec 27 18:31 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: let's just drop it as I prefer not to kick when there's no need. I haven't kicked for like 4 months | Dec 27 18:31 |
| MinceR | here they won't give it back, ever | Dec 27 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I think since Ryan | Dec 27 18:32 |
| MinceR | they're destroying that branch of the pension system | Dec 27 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | they won't here either, they just change the retirement age from 65 to 70, and then they can go years more without paying it back | Dec 27 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Pension vs kids | Dec 27 18:32 |
| schestowitz | And grandkids] | Dec 27 18:32 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: alright, now I know not to take you at your word, it's seemingly flexable when it suits you | Dec 27 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | then when they get to where they can't fudge, they'll just change the law to pardon their debt | Dec 27 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Pension is like afterlife | Dec 27 18:32 |
| schestowitz | You think you'll soon have it | Dec 27 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Until it's almost there and then you get cancer or the company that assured the pension (e.g. Enron) collapses | Dec 27 18:32 |
| MinceR | here the system will simply go bankrupt | Dec 27 18:33 |
| MinceR | since the society is shifting toward an ever-growing majority of old people | Dec 27 18:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @birgittaj Stop the Inhumane Treatment for Bradley Manning: Take action and sign our Letter on his behalf http://ur1.ca/2ooaf #freebradley | Dec 27 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: action.firedoglake.com | Stop the Inhumane Treatment of Bradley Manning: Sign Our Letter .::. Size~: 25.17 KB | Dec 27 18:33 |
| MinceR | there will be nobody around to pay pensions | Dec 27 18:33 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: some other people have missed him, seb for example | Dec 27 18:33 |
| MinceR | the branch they're destroying could have solved this problem, but that was too good for orban | Dec 27 18:33 |
| schestowitz | LOL Or ban | Dec 27 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The US population is aging, the birth rate is actually lower than the death rate, and immigration is the only thing keeping it growing | Dec 27 18:34 |
| MinceR | but it's not like i plan on staying in this joke of a country for long | Dec 27 18:34 |
| schestowitz | /kick or ban DaemonFC /op STALIN | Dec 27 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | the problem comes from the fact that most of it is illegal, they don't pay Social Security, and lots of people are about to draw it | Dec 27 18:34 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: as you'd tell others, you're deflecting the point, but have it your way | Dec 27 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | the system would be only a matter of 10 years from collapsing if they didn't screw my generation over and say retirement is now 70 | Dec 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: it's vindictive | Dec 27 18:35 |
| ThistleWeb | I didn't come here for an argument | Dec 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz | me neither | Dec 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Neither did Ryan today | Dec 27 18:35 |
| ThistleWeb | yes, it's also about keeping your word | Dec 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz | He's posting input politely | Dec 27 18:35 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: I know | Dec 27 18:36 |
| ThistleWeb | no worries, I'll leave you to it | Dec 27 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | Heh | Dec 27 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | Social Security retirement is like running a marathon where the finish line keeps getting moved back another 100 feet every time you get close | Dec 27 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | I don't expect to ever get a pension | Dec 27 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Christian Engström, Pirate MEP: Foil Hats off to Sweden's puppet government http://ur1.ca/2oohz !wikiLeaks !cablegate #sovereignty #truth | Dec 27 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz & it's not a protest movement, or activism 4change, as u see from how they treat real activists. TP defends broken status quo. | Dec 27 18:36 | |
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| schestowitz | There will be other issues | Dec 27 18:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: hard to predict what happens 40 years from now | Dec 27 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Think of people who were your age in 1970 | Dec 27 18:37 |
| schestowitz | They had cold war | Dec 27 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Drugs... | Dec 27 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but LSD and pot are basically harmless compared to crack and meth | Dec 27 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | if anything that's gotten worse :) | Dec 27 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] In it self, the fact someone other than yourself can block your application is a strong argument against Apple store and Google market. | Dec 27 18:38 | |
| schestowitz | Alcohol is quite bad | Dec 27 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | the only good thing about meth is that it has a tendency to explode and kill the people making it | Dec 27 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I had a beer on Friday | Dec 27 18:38 |
| schestowitz | They limit what's legal | Dec 27 18:38 |
| schestowitz | To please their friends | Dec 27 18:38 |
| schestowitz | So I never had illegal drugs | Dec 27 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | legal or illegal has now bearing on how available it is, only how much it costs | Dec 27 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | *no | Dec 27 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | anything in demand and illegal has a black market, it's a fact | Dec 27 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | also, anything in demand and prohibitively expensive | Dec 27 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | you start seeing a black market full of counterfeits | Dec 27 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 I need you to read http://bit.ly/gKcWNy as you're mentioned there and we need input from you | Dec 27 18:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | I thought it was interesting that Microsoft dropped OGA with no explanation | Dec 27 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | encouraging counterfeits to stifle competition | Dec 27 18:42 |
| schestowitz | counterfeits is good for MSFT | Dec 27 18:42 |
| schestowitz | VOleware needs big userbase | Dec 27 18:42 |
| schestowitz | no matter the cost | Dec 27 18:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @birgittaj ♺ @JPBarlow The FCC has a nice name for its Trojan Horse: #NetNeutrality. @EFF knows it isn't http://ur1.ca/e4l2 << too true | Dec 27 18:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Virgin Passengers Not Named Madonna Wait 3 Hours To Get Off Plane http://bit.ly/ekiGOn singing the highest form of value? | Dec 27 18:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DDoS attacks threaten free speech, says report http://bit.ly/fKflbE !techrights too came under DDOS attacks ('protests') | Dec 27 18:46 | |
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| schestowitz | Stephen Fry security whoopsie leads to prank fart book order http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1210/Paper_Brown_letter_affront_to_the_First_Amendment.html?showall | Dec 27 18:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Law 2010 - Eben Moglen on what it takes to keep defending FOSS | http://bit.ly/azqXkE | Dec 27 18:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @laurelrusswurm Christian Engström, Pirate MEP: Foil Hats off to Sweden's puppet government http://ur1.ca/2oohz !wikiLeaks !cablegate ... | Dec 27 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux - http://bit.ly/dTLOlT wow, this looks big #russia #linux #putin | Dec 27 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2010 Trend Watch Update: Net Neutrality https://eff.org/r.2vZ | Dec 27 19:05 | |
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| *DaemonFC wonders if using bittorrent is making AT&T cranky :( | Dec 27 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox Slammed by L.A. Times --'Shouldn't Call Itself a News Organization' http://bit.ly/dJwGSl should channels be shut down for nonintegrity? | Dec 27 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Banana Republic Once Again? http://bit.ly/gFRvAR "Edward Bernays waged a propaganda war.. .that Arbenz was secretly a dangerous communist" | Dec 27 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @pla1 My gadget of the year 2010. !NexusOne http://is.gd/jA36Y | Dec 27 19:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @toros ars technica: Ars Staff picks: our 10 favorite !Android apps of 2010 http://goo.gl/Oy6D3 | Dec 27 19:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Don't let the current propaganda war paint wikileaks "sympathisers" as the smears goes be cast as "anarchists". Corporatist land is anarchy. | Dec 27 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !wikileaks #cablegate has been exceptionally good at showing how companies use their govt. as vehicle to bully other nations. 98% to go... | Dec 27 19:13 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My lithium results came in, wonderful news, it's finally toxic | Dec 27 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC was trying to tell them this :) | Dec 27 19:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @mvalente Now here's a good use of nationalist socialist dictatorship power http://goo.gl/Wyrs4 #oss #gnu #linux | Dec 27 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Good new example of propaganda against repressed, exploited China http://bit.ly/gb9LMf (What not to do about China's IP violations) #nyt #pr | Dec 27 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Big thumbs-up to J Bennett for dismantling #NYT #propaganda: "mourn the deep ignorance and sophistry that lies behind that [NTY] conclusion" | Dec 27 19:20 | |
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| amarsh04 | do you have recommended intakes of sodium and potassium also, DAemonFC? | Dec 27 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The main thing China 'steals' from the West is its thunder. Corporate press adds insult to injury (child labour, lousy wages, etc.). | Dec 27 19:21 | |
| schestowitz | "Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff) is now listening to your notices on Identi.ca." | Dec 27 19:22 |
| schestowitz | Neat. | Dec 27 19:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So-called 'red' China is criticised for same things West does,e.g. censorship.Is it called 'red' for bloodshed?For making all Xmas presents? | Dec 27 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | That's near, EFF only subscribed to 10 people | Dec 27 19:24 |
| schestowitz | TechDirt also subscribed to me and sometimes links to Techrights | Dec 27 19:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz red in China is seen as the colour of good fortune, luck, and providence, hence "red" everything | Dec 27 19:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Video: Frost over the World - #Julian Assange http://bit.ly/fLhLhX !playogg !wikileaks | Dec 27 19:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Wikileaks reveals U.S. Gov’t GMO secret dealings - http://bit.ly/g8gKyu important story of pressure applied only now emerging #gm | Dec 27 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education top 10 posts of 2010: No. 8 - Bill Gates talks "free education" | http://bit.ly/hG4Svl | Dec 27 19:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I wish I was a software company so I could give away intangible goods that cost me nothing to reproduce and declare it as a tax deduction at full retail price | Dec 27 19:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Not a typo in my last message. I just forgot to remove 'more' from it. :( | Dec 27 19:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Farm Animals Get 80 Percent of #Antibiotics Sold in US - http://bit.ly/gpRzAc what could possibly go wrong? | Dec 27 19:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kindle becomes #Amazon's best-selling item ever - http://bit.ly/gCJRMS running #Linux, let us remember... | Dec 27 19:36 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, my mom was asking about e-readers, I told her she's better off just buying from Audible | Dec 27 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | at least that reads to you and you don't need some fancy gadget to play them | Dec 27 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Merry Christmas to all Bankers - http://bit.ly/f60cVn do not miss this letter to that wunch [pdf] - http://bit.ly/eUiHzr #chip&pin | Dec 27 19:40 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: see 13:17 in http://tinyogg.com/watch/MXKTZ/ | Dec 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | The "a" worth is brought up around 12:00 | Dec 27 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Exposing corruption=anarchism??? :-D | Dec 27 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | now that my lithium is toxic, they go from "nothing open until Jan 19" to "We'll see you Wednesday" | Dec 27 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think they want to adjust my meds before they end up being sued | Dec 27 19:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] One Time Only: Scientist-on-Scientist #TSA Smackdown - http://bit.ly/h3SOZ8 do not miss if you enjoy serious #science seriously | Dec 27 19:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Fuck. This !LO episode is gonna be MASSIVE. Like 3hrs! All @opensourcegeek's fault. | Dec 27 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @homembit @schestowitz I'm very curious to see if wikileaks will tell us some good stories about OOXML at ISO :) | Dec 27 19:48 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: we ought to make an episode too | Dec 27 19:55 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb is here | Dec 27 19:55 |
| _Goblin | yep | Dec 27 19:56 |
| _Goblin | give me around 1/2 hour | Dec 27 19:56 |
| ThistleWeb | I gues | Dec 27 19:56 |
| _Goblin | just settling back in home.... | Dec 27 19:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Gee, I can tell everyone's awake, and talking having come out of their post-turkey stupor! | Dec 27 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is bugabundo@brainbird.net with 102 dents! | Dec 27 19:56 | |
| _Goblin | ok thats a lie.....Ive been exposing MS employee's and playing Oblivion on PS3. | Dec 27 19:56 |
| _Goblin | ....sort of settling in.... | Dec 27 19:57 |
| _Goblin | I'll be ready in about 1/2 hour....brb | Dec 27 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | few laps of Trial Mountain too I'll bet | Dec 27 19:57 |
| schestowitz | cool! | Dec 27 19:57 |
| schestowitz | has anyone played with hunble bundle btw? | Dec 27 19:57 |
| schestowitz | *hum | Dec 27 19:57 |
| _Goblin | ;) how'd you guess gordon...I don't have a kinnect....how are you spying into my home?....ah yes the Webcam! ;) | Dec 27 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | apparently it's very good in it's own right | Dec 27 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 27/12/2010: The Humble Indie Bundle Ends, Mandriva 2010.2 Screenshots http://bit.ly/hyXW9j !techrights | Dec 27 19:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter sez you :\ | Dec 27 19:58 | |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: I've clocked up plenty of hours in various versions of GT | Dec 27 19:58 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I have both bundles | Dec 27 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | much of it could be best described as "today I'll be mostly driving one of my many Dodge Vipers" | Dec 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | can't really comment too much, all I've been playing so far is World of Goo and Revenge of the Titans | Dec 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | those aren't bad | Dec 27 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux - http://bit.ly/dTLOlT wow, this looks big #russia #linux #putin | Dec 27 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | .me does post on Apple | Dec 27 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @StateDept: Mikhail #Khodorkovsky, Platon #Lebedev conviction raises serious questions selective prosecution. http://go.usa.gov/rYI | Dec 27 20:01 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think the Humble Bundle is a good idea, look how much money they made on the name your price model | Dec 27 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's mostly just about promotion though | Dec 27 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | you've got some games in there that are beta, some that are just old and probably not selling well, and a couple in there that are gearing up for a sequel | Dec 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | but it's worth buying | Dec 27 20:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyrighting a Wrong and Infusing Fairness into #Bollywood - http://bit.ly/fsJgVh people getting passionate #copyright | Dec 27 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @hook: How Software Patents Will Ruin the World: http://is.gd/jAfJn #swpat → #FSFE | Dec 27 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @alphazo What is Traitorware? | Electronic Frontier Foundation - http://is.gd/jzWz4 !privacy | Dec 27 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Business top posts of 2010: No. 1 - The Apple exception: where open innovation theory breaks down | http://bit.ly/g1v8VN | Dec 27 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] WikiLeaks Central: A Holiday Statement from Bradley Manning http://wlcentral.org/node/708 #freeBradley #freebyron #freespeech | Dec 27 20:10 | |
| MinceR | 204407 < schestowitz> Exposing corruption=anarchism??? :-D | Dec 27 20:10 |
| MinceR | of course | Dec 27 20:10 |
| MinceR | the state is all about corruption, isn't it? :> | Dec 27 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I continue to be angry that Tom Flanagan is uncharged while Byron Sonne is punitively denied bail #freeByron http://ur1.ca/2n1n7 #cdnpoli | Dec 27 20:13 | |
| _Goblin | right im on skype | Dec 27 20:13 |
| _Goblin | can't connect to the test call service though | Dec 27 20:14 |
| _Goblin | :( | Dec 27 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | oh, that's another nice thing about Kubuntu's pulseaudio support | Dec 27 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | having skype open doesn't lock the sound card and prevent everything else from working | Dec 27 20:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Flanagan's crime has been witnessed by the world; the myopic University of Calgary can't see it http://ur1.ca/2n1n7 !wikileaks #cdnpoli | Dec 27 20:16 | |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: never had a problem with Sabayon | Dec 27 20:16 |
| _Goblin | and hi btw the way....its been a while. | Dec 27 20:17 |
| _Goblin | *btw | Dec 27 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 27 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've played with Sabayon a couple times, I wasn't impressed with Portage the first time | Dec 27 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | second time I tried the GNOME edition and the installer froze halfway in | Dec 27 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How insane is it for the University of Calgary to allow a monster like #Flanagan to teach Canadian Students? http://ur1.ca/2n1n7 #cdnpoli | Dec 27 20:18 | |
| DaemonFC | my opinion is that distros that are difficult to use for no other reason than to be difficult to use are pointless, but if people are happy with them, it's not my system so good for them | Dec 27 20:19 |
| _Goblin | DaemonFC: shame...its a damn fine distro..... | Dec 27 20:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] How crazy is the Government of Canada to allow the world to believe it condones assassination? #Flanagan #cdnpoli #DangerousPrecedent | Dec 27 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: connecting.. | Dec 27 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | another thing is how they have no Live CD, it's a DVD because they have to toss in the kitchen sink | Dec 27 20:20 |
| _Goblin | :) | Dec 27 20:20 |
| _Goblin | and a damn fine sink it is....all marble and gold! | Dec 27 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | and why do they have two DVD images that take up less than half the capacity of a single layer DVD when they could put KDE and GNOME on both and let you pick one? | Dec 27 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 27 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | you have to burn two DVD images to try both desktops | Dec 27 20:21 |
| _Goblin | maybe because DVD's work out at less than 20p each? ;) | Dec 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | skype had major issues recently | Dec 27 20:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe you didn't see the news | Dec 27 20:22 |
| _Goblin | yeah I saw.... | Dec 27 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | that's apparently mostly fixed | Dec 27 20:22 |
| schestowitz | supernode fail | Dec 27 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | well, KDE is only an option for me now because of some work Mandriva did | Dec 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | so it's a shame to see what's going on with them | Dec 27 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | I was stuck on GNOME because it worked well enough, but it's getting kind of dated and I don't like where they're going. I like where Ubuntu is going with it even less. | Dec 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | But Canonical hasn't molested KDE to that extent | Dec 27 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | frankly as long as they'll continue polluting GNOME and leave KDE alone, I'll happily use Kubuntu | Dec 27 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | thankfully there's some guy with a blog post that has some copy/paste commands for installing Kubuntu's desktop then purging all of the ubuntu desktop specifics | Dec 27 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | so I didn't have to wipe everything and start over | Dec 27 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | I did have a lot of dot folders to get rid of... :) | Dec 27 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | KDE is really pretty good lately | Dec 27 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't been this happy with it since they abandoned 3.5 | Dec 27 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://lwn.net/Articles/421104/rss | Dec 27 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @theMindjuggler Flanagan proposed assasinating Assange- still allowed to teach? PETITION http://bit.ly/ejT3pq Keep him away from the Uni! | Dec 27 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: I am angry that Tom Flanagan is uncharged while Byron Sonne is denied bail #freeByron http://ur1.ca/2n1n7 #cdnpoli | Dec 27 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: Hint to snippy people of the world: If you're going to slag me in a friend's DA account, maybe you shouldn't be identi... | Dec 27 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @seananmcguire: In other news, people are occasionally dumb, film at eleven. | Dec 27 20:41 | |
| MinceR | i've been increasingly unhappy with kde ever since they've left 3.5 behind | Dec 27 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I think there's still some people maintaining it | Dec 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | but it's basically dead | Dec 27 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | all they're doing is patching it here and there so it keeps working, there's not any new features | Dec 27 20:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] The Raving Rick: New Personal Goal: Photobomb for #Natty http://goo.gl/bv1Ea !u | Dec 27 20:48 | |
| tessier | Gnome has pretty much won? | Dec 27 20:48 |
| amarsh04 | I note that the trinity people have a kde3.5 that can co-exist with kde 4.x | Dec 27 20:48 |
| tessier | Funny. Gnome was created because of qt's proprietary license. | Dec 27 20:48 |
| tessier | Oh. KDE 3.5 is dead. | Dec 27 20:48 |
| MinceR | it still works | Dec 27 20:49 |
| MinceR | and it's reliable | Dec 27 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | life support | Dec 27 20:49 |
| tessier | But KDE itself is still going strong right? | Dec 27 20:49 |
| MinceR | unlike the "roll d4 to see which component crashes" DE | Dec 27 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, 4.5 is good | Dec 27 20:49 |
| MinceR | i have 4.3 | Dec 27 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | 4.x has been a disaster until recently | Dec 27 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's been less of one with each release, but 4.5 is good | Dec 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I remember Fedora was the first to jump into the KDE 4 mess | Dec 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | 4.0.1 I think, every other thing you clicked bombed out | Dec 27 20:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 27 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | half the stuff that was in KDE 3 was gone | Dec 27 20:50 |
| amarsh04 | I won't attempt upgrading until quanta for kde4 is ready | Dec 27 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Our leaders are...either quietly pocketing the silverware or discreetly making their way to the lifeboats."~@rop_g !q http://ur1.ca/2opeu | Dec 27 20:51 | |
| tessier | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/12/putin-orders-russian-move-to-gnulinux.html | Dec 27 20:53 |
| tessier | Yet another migration by fiat doomed to fail | Dec 27 20:53 |
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| DaemonFC | central planning, comrade | Dec 27 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 27 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | is good, no? | Dec 27 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's a fake out | Dec 27 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | they're baiting Microsoft for some free stuff | Dec 27 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] But seriously there are people who pay 280+ euro/yr to download ringtones? Morons... | Dec 27 21:00 | |
| DaemonFC | I like how it costs 99 cents for a 10 second clip of the song | Dec 27 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | when you could just use audacity to clip out the part you want and put it on the phone yourself | Dec 27 21:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bananabob "Solar Panels for Your Pants" !scitech Is that a power station in your pocket, or you just pleased to see me? http://is.gd ... | Dec 27 21:06 | |
| tessier | Yep, lots of places bait Microsoft this way. But at least it gets publicity for the possibility that one can switch. | Dec 27 21:08 |
| MinceR | also, if they get some free stuff out of m$, it might make m$ less profitable | Dec 27 21:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Under no circumstances should corporations EVER be allowed to dictate morality or ethics to human beings."~me !q http://ur1.ca/2mgse #CRDoS | Dec 27 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: "Under no circumstances should corporations EVER be allowed to dictate morality or ethics to human beings." ur1.ca/2mgse | Dec 27 21:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] "kill -9 doesn't kill processes. People kill processes." | Dec 27 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 9 - Facebook: Privacy, the exodus, and Diaspora | http://bit.ly/eZVSl2 | Dec 27 21:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Wow.... What a great !LO. Massive thanks to @opensourcegeek and @methoddan. Longest LO ever, but great fun! | Dec 27 21:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Makes me cry: @JesseBrown Search Engine: Audio Podcast #72: Byron Sonne is Still in Prison http://ur1.ca/2n9df #G20 #freebyron #cdnpoli | Dec 27 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @satyasagar: Dr Binayak Sen, jailed on trumped up charges, is spending the night in a cold Raipur prison. Difficult to say... | Dec 27 21:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Crown deployed massive resources against Byron Sonne, Canada's invisible #G20 political prisoner: 6 months http://ur1.ca/2nin1#freeByron | Dec 27 22:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @guido !free software in #education. My collected news of the last 3 months: http://www.ur1.ca/2oppk !ofset !fsfe | Dec 27 22:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tzk/@tzk] #tpb !compartiendo #wikirebels torrent http://is.gd/jAH0K y subtítulos castellano: http://is.gd/jAH0O (solo necesitas el .srt) !wl | Dec 27 22:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: rt @theMindjuggler Flanagan proposed assasinating Assange- still allowed to teach? PETITION http://bit.ly/ejT3pq | Dec 27 22:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @bkuhn: how are you guys doing in replicant WRT the binary drivers? sadly living with them ? | Dec 27 22:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #pidgin !identi.ca test!!! | Dec 27 22:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #centerim support for !status.net and twitter would be priceless :) | Dec 27 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Hey, !fsfe your blogs' layout is unusable with webkit at 480x640 :( | Dec 27 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ah ganda Putin ;) "Putin Orders Russian Move To GNU/Linux" http://ur1.ca/2opce | Dec 27 22:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CDemerjian: Moral, buy less combustion-prone laptops than Sonys. http://twurl.nl/tvh6kb #Sony | Dec 27 22:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald So we'll scorn #Assange 4 writing a book to pay legal fees when politicians become multi-millionaires via book contracts? !wl | Dec 27 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The Tor translation portal has moved to Transifex. Please read http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Dec-2010/msg00246.html for more info. | Dec 27 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Translations for all of our projects can be found here: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/torproject/. | Dec 27 22:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @inkorrupt The Top 20 DMCA Cease and Desist Senders of 2010 http://ur1.ca/2opox #tpn #tpb #piracy !copyfight<< some surprises | Dec 27 22:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Boardwalk Empire is a *very* good tv series passed during the beginning of the USA alcohol prohibition days early last century. | Dec 27 22:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] eeGods Arsenal won? | Dec 27 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thumbs Up to Linux Phones for Rejecting Apple-esque Censorship http://bit.ly/eoAVD9 #Apple #Censorship | Dec 27 22:48 | |
| schestowitz | [20:48] <tessier> Gnome has pretty much won? | Dec 27 22:51 |
| schestowitz | I think Android did :-> | Dec 27 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Now there's Unity coming to tablet with GNOME base | Dec 27 22:51 |
| schestowitz | And Qt/Nokia has MeeGo, KDE-desktop, kde-netbook.... | Dec 27 22:52 |
| schestowitz | They are all aiming at mobile | Dec 27 22:52 |
| schestowitz | That's where the growth opportunity lies | Dec 27 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft tries ARM and VIsta Phony 7 [sic], which bombs | Dec 27 22:52 |
| MinceR | elop may yet take nokia down | Dec 27 22:53 |
| schestowitz | It's down even without him | Dec 27 22:54 |
| schestowitz | leaders too idle | Dec 27 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Woke up when it was already too late | Dec 27 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft | Dec 27 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Elop knows the feeling | Dec 27 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Putin Orders Russian Move to !GNU !Linux http://bit.ly/hk72fj da, da! | Dec 27 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Murdoch, popular as ever lol http://bit.ly/hqJHFc | Dec 27 22:55 | |
| schestowitz | Asleep at the wheel, too vain | Dec 27 22:55 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! | Dec 27 22:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education top 10 posts of 2010: No. 7 - Flat World Knowledge: Open College Textbooks | http://bit.ly/byMB65 | Dec 27 22:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Flat World Knowledge: Open College Textbooks | opensource.com .::. Size~: 67.94 KB | Dec 27 22:56 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: _Goblin encoding now | Dec 27 23:06 |
| schestowitz | to take one hour, almost 2 hour total | Dec 27 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald Bush officials lavish Obama w/praise for continuing Bush Terrorism policies http://is.gd/jv5YO << #corporatocracy | Dec 27 23:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bush officials: Obama's terror policies echo Bush's - POLITICO Live - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 62.37 KB | Dec 27 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @renata A global fight against corruption needs free speech as this article describes http://gu.com/p/2ktem/tw cc .@georg_neu | Dec 27 23:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: rt @ggreenwald Bush officials lavish Obama w/praise for continuing Bush Terrorism policies http://is.gd/jv5YO | Dec 27 23:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Internationalising the public interest | Nizar Manek | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 165.34 KB | Dec 27 23:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Understanding the Open Invention Network (NetworkWorld) http://lwn.net/Articles/421116/rss | Dec 27 23:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] grumble | Dec 27 23:16 | |
| tessier | I wonder just how politically difficult it would be for Obama to change the Bush policies. | Dec 27 23:19 |
| tessier | Bush did a pretty good job of brainwashing a lot of people. | Dec 27 23:20 |
| tessier | He isn't king and can't just change things by edict. | Dec 27 23:20 |
| tessier | I think he has made an honest effort of shutting down Gitmo, for example. But there are lots of complicating factors. | Dec 27 23:20 |
| MinceR | his backers don't want him to | Dec 27 23:20 |
| tessier | Ditto getting out of Afghanistan. | Dec 27 23:20 |
| tessier | Even if they did want him to it isn't so easy to do. | Dec 27 23:20 |
| tessier | I think he bit off more than he could chew. I bet he wants to do those things. | Dec 27 23:21 |
| MinceR | the world that likes to make so much of a show of it being democratic shows how undemocratic they are | Dec 27 23:21 |
| tessier | Nobody's perfect. The US, UK, et al are still far more democratic than most. | Dec 27 23:22 |
| tessier | We had these troubles during WWII with the Japanese and during the McCarthy cold war era too. | Dec 27 23:22 |
| tessier | This isn't new. | Dec 27 23:22 |
| MinceR | they aren't even trying | Dec 27 23:23 |
| tessier | North Korea isn't even trying. The US and UK are. | Dec 27 23:23 |
| tessier | Let's have some perspective. :) | Dec 27 23:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Ext4 filesystem hits Android, no need to fear data loss (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/421117/rss | Dec 27 23:23 | |
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| MinceR | no, they merely make a different show | Dec 27 23:23 |
| MinceR | and different level of fascism | Dec 27 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | fascism ftw | Dec 27 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | there must be something to it or it wouldn't be so popular, right? | Dec 27 23:27 |
| MinceR | yes, it matches the herd mentality well | Dec 27 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | the way to keep the herd in line is to convince them they're in charge of their own individual destiny | Dec 27 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that's where communism went wrong | Dec 27 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | you're right that the more democratic systems are just a different kind of fascism in disguise | Dec 27 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | you can't be your own person when the government has this much control and micromanagement over everything from who pays what tax rate to what color skin gets you into college | Dec 27 23:32 |
| MinceR | especially if you don't have control over the government | Dec 27 23:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Reminds me of the games based on movies I used to (start) writing in Basic on a friend's Dick Smith Wizard. http://iotacons.blogspot.com | Dec 27 23:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Recall doing Superman, Gremlins, Ghostbusters, etc., sometimes not getting past creating an animated splash screen. | Dec 27 23:40 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: kick OrBan it | Dec 27 23:45 |
| schestowitz | /it// | Dec 27 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Can anyone find out if Peter Galli still works for Microsoft? | Dec 27 23:51 |
| schestowitz | I mean, does he blog at port25? | Dec 27 23:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How Much Did It Cost AOL To Send Us Those CDs through The 90s? (Tech Crunch): http://tcrn.ch/g71S7V | Dec 27 23:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: La Libertad No Es Gratis http://bit.ly/fBQwDF #swpats #freesoftware !gnu !fsf #es | Dec 27 23:56 | |
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