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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ATPC el linux de los cojones, que me tiene harto. Hora de volver por fin a Windows a disfrutar de la informatica! So long, suckers!!Dec 28 00:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "...their Russian and Chinese alternatives—that’s all the data gov's need to pick the right target." ~ @evgenymorozov http://ur1.ca/2or8vDec 28 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Millions of people already disclose intimate social data on Facebook, LinkedIn, Delicious, and ... "Dec 28 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why the Internet Is a Great Tool for Totalitarians | Magazine .::. Size~: 64.49 KBDec 28 00:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Wired: Why the Internet Is a Great Tool for Totalitarians" by @evgenymorozov http://ur1.ca/2or8v !privacyDec 28 00:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why the Internet Is a Great Tool for Totalitarians | Magazine .::. Size~: 64.49 KBDec 28 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @guardiantech More than 3m UK children have no internet access at home, warns charity http://ur1.ca/2orbz << ALL children need ACCESSDec 28 00:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  More than 3m UK children have no internet access at home, warns charity | Technology | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 89.35 KBDec 28 00:20
schestowitz_Goblin: http://techrights.org/2010/12/27/techbytes-episode-22/Dec 28 00:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 22: Freedom Debate and Picks of the Year | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.5 KBDec 28 00:21
schestowitzGot show notes to link this with?Dec 28 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Voice of Treason http://bit.ly/fvlJUh Florian & Microsoft joined by the hip. #swpatsDec 28 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Voice of Treason | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.45 KBDec 28 00:25
*amarsh04 just had a flashback to when he used elm for mail and tin for newsgroupsDec 28 00:26
*DaemonFC hands pine to amarsh04 Dec 28 00:27
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ex-CEO of Red Hat sues family's financial advisers, alleging misuse of $60 million, kickbacks http://bit.ly/gM4lBb fascinatingDec 28 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ex-CEO of Red Hat sues family's financial advisers, alleging misuse of $60 million, kickbacks - WTKR .::. Size~: 119.83 KBDec 28 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Episode 22: Freedom Debate and Picks of the Year http://bit.ly/fbtAjc http://bit.ly/eAqFja show notes from @openbytes out soonDec 28 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Episode 22: Freedom Debate and Picks of the Year | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.5 KBDec 28 00:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Closing of a First Year for TechBytes .::. Size~: 33.71 KBDec 28 00:30
schestowitzgnDec 28 00:30
schestowitzI think _Goblin is downstairs, I'll link to it later when he puts the url hereDec 28 00:30
amarsh04no elm in Debian but they have a console-based mail reader called elmoDec 28 00:31
*DaemonFC goes to pick up his LithiumDec 28 00:33
DaemonFCwonder when my hair falls out and I go into renal failure due to this crapDec 28 00:33
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 00:33
DaemonFCI'm going to put my foot down and get him to take me off thisDec 28 00:34
amarsh04tin is still in Debian, no pine but they have alpineDec 28 00:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[timbl/@timbl] @evan, got a pointer to those proposed acct: uris?Dec 28 00:40
DaemonFChmmm, Trinity KDE has made more progress than I thoughtDec 28 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2011-Jan-03: Eyal Sela, W3C Israel Office, gives a talk entitled: "Mobile Web Application Best Practices" http://ow.ly/1aCWDuDec 28 00:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Talks by W3C Speakers   .::. Size~: 14.93 KBDec 28 00:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !MeeGo chose #btrfs. #Android chooses #ext4 http://ur1.ca/2orjyDec 28 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ext4 filesystem hits Android, no need to fear data loss .::. Size~: 31.89 KBDec 28 00:53
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sebsebsebHiDec 28 01:17
MinceRgnDec 28 01:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] SUMO 2.4 – The end of the tunnel http://bit.ly/e5MifuDec 28 01:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » SUMO 2.4 – The end of the tunnel .::. Size~: 21.93 KBDec 28 01:21
*dooglus_ is now known as dooglusDec 28 01:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @thistleweb OK. so what's the porn definition of ATM?Dec 28 01:41
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DaemonFCback with lithium for allDec 28 01:44
DaemonFCMinceR, Do you watch that Conspiracy Theory show?Dec 28 01:45
DaemonFCone of my favorites was the government conspiracy to put lithium in the drinking water to make people docileDec 28 01:45
DaemonFCthe first thought I had was how would they control the dose, because the therapeutic and toxic levels are so closeDec 28 01:47
DaemonFCand if they got the dose too high, not only would it injure or kill a lot of people, but it would cause even more to go psychotic from the buildupDec 28 01:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm About 18 hours ago I thought, about telling you about the !identiverse group, because I saw that you had used the name/term.Dec 28 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @lmacken: #TurboGears joins the #Pylons Project! http://j.mp/eyNqE6 /cc: !pythonDec 28 02:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    TurboGears joins the PylonsProject -   TurboGears Trunk |   Google Groups    .::. Size~: 48.78 KBDec 28 02:45
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Will__@schestowitz: http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/12/putin-orders-russian-move-to-gnulinux.htmlDec 28 02:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux .::. Size~: 99.59 KBDec 28 02:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb :D I stole !identiverse from @realityDec 28 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I read great news the other night/day, that I will be able to use !Virtualbox 4.0 to run !Canonical 's !Ubuntu !Unity interface!Dec 28 03:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @therealjanisian Quote of the day: "Too many have dispensed with generosity in order to practice charity." - Albert CamusDec 28 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra Gwibber doesn't do proxy http://ur1.ca/2oshf. Also has no configurable API string. Which I need to connect using HTTPS.Dec 28 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] Wired magazine withheld chat logs that could have proven that Assange and Bradley Manning did not conspire. http://is.gd/jBIJ0Dec 28 03:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.26 KBDec 28 03:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wired Magazine Slammed for Withholding Chat Logs That Could Prove Assange and Bradley Manning Did Not Conspire | World | AlterNet .::. Size~: 97.14 KBDec 28 03:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] I'm angry that having to eat dinner is cutting into my book reading time.Dec 28 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Carolyn_Bennett #cdnpoli #demreform worrying G&M: Tory-created watchdogs appear unable to uncover wrongdoing http://ur1.ca/2osu4Dec 28 04:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♻ @Tekneek: Why would Apple yank a WikiLeaks app based on threat to an individual, but leave Foursquare and Gowalla?Dec 28 04:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tory-created watchdogs appear unable to uncover wrongdoing - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 91.95 KBDec 28 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] “If they don’t bite, it doesn’t matter if they have teeth or not.” http://ur1.ca/2osu4 None guilty breaking Lobby rules in 1½ years #cdnpoliDec 28 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tory-created watchdogs appear unable to uncover wrongdoing - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 91.71 KBDec 28 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Ok and I got @kevie to subscribe to !identiverse soon after it had started. :)Dec 28 05:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Just How Big Is OpenBenchmarking.org?: With Iveland Alpha 5 arriving earlier today and more information beginnin... http://bit.ly/hQ4xVSDec 28 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @StopActaNow NBC Universal & MPAA Get NYC To Run Propaganda 'Anti-Piracy' Ad Campaign |http://ur1.ca/2oswr Techdirt #ACTA !copyrightDec 28 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @laurelrusswurm hey, I've been reading @kevie's !identiverse as a mere identiverse so i must be totally unobservant :) <uh... yeah>Dec 28 05:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Just How Big Is OpenBenchmarking.org? .::. Size~: 20.23 KBDec 28 05:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NBC Universal & MPAA Get NYC To Run Propaganda 'Anti-Piracy' Ad Campaign | Techdirt .::. Size~: 59.66 KBDec 28 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm I meant soon after the !identiverse group got started. Anyway were you meant to send that to yourself and the group?Dec 28 05:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb huh? i didn't notice the ! until today. I would assume that anytime I say good morning !identiverse it should go to the ! groupDec 28 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Were you meant to send that to yourself and the group? I guess it was meant to have been sent to me and !identiverse group.Dec 28 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Sure, Jimmy's face is hilarious, but the Wikimedia foundation is doing seriously awesome work and deserve our support http://redd.it/eseckDec 28 05:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Look in your replies, you just sent one of these dents as a reply to yourself, thats what I am on about. !identiverseDec 28 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Being a poor unemployed student, i'll match Wikimedia donations to a limit of $25, and i challenge you to up the ante! http://redd.it/eseckDec 28 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb ah... apparently i was talking to myself without noticing when actually i was attempting to answer you. *sigh*Dec 28 05:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Yes exactly, and I was pointing it out, so that you would be aware.Dec 28 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Ok nice you have subscribed to me! How come?Dec 28 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf Open letter to those inciting murder on Julian #Assange and/or members of his family http://ur1.ca/2ot5n !Wikileaks #cdnpoliDec 28 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb i subscribe to people i converse with.Dec 28 05:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OPEN LETTER | WL Central .::. Size~: 20.53 KBDec 28 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Ok I thought that us chatting on here, was the reason.Dec 28 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @Carolyn_Bennett Shouldn't that be 'Tory appointed watchdogs need glasses' #cdnpoli #demreformDec 28 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb absolutely :)Dec 28 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm As you can see, I now have an avatar, and its been about 9 days. Like it?Dec 28 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @JFHilborne Madness and Murder by Jenny Hilborne http://ur1.ca/2otapDec 28 06:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon.com: Madness and Murder eBook: Jenny Hilborne: Kindle Store .::. Size~: 378.09 KBDec 28 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: Can't believe there are still climate change deniers out there. Flat Earth Society eat your heart out! #cdnpoliDec 28 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb It's distinctive, which is good for an avatar. I don't like it when people change avatars because i don't recognize them.Dec 28 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi Someone made my current avatar about 9/10 days ago, was going to be tempory, but now will be used for quite awhile. Like it?Dec 28 06:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Indeed when avatars get changed it can be difficult to recognise who people are. Can hover over on #identica to find out!Dec 28 06:25
DaemonFCsebsebseb, I gave up on Virtualbox, the OSE version is crippledDec 28 06:27
DaemonFCif I had to pay for something, might as well get ParallelsDec 28 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Ok !identiverse thats enough dents from me for now!Dec 28 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: La Voz de Traición http://bit.ly/i24fGV #swpats #micrsoft #cptn #novell #gartnerDec 28 06:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: La Voz de Traición | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.04 KBDec 28 06:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple y Bill Gates Servicio del poder, Servirse A Sí Mismos, Perjudicar a la Población http://bit.ly/gSUPw8 #pr #censorship !wikileaksDec 28 06:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ES: Apple y Bill Gates Servicio del poder, Servirse A Sí Mismos, Perjudicar a la Población | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.96 KBDec 28 06:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] Completed my first year at cognizant!Dec 28 06:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Was trying to figure out if I needed a visa to go to Sri Lanka for http://www.sanog.org/ & Singaporeans enter free http://ur1.ca/2otla #fbDec 28 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: South Asian Network Operators Group .::. Size~: 9.15 KBDec 28 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Visa requirements for Singaporean citizens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 192.38 KBDec 28 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Son @micahj117 says 2010-12-28 is the 25th anniversary of "Back to the Future". www.bttf.com/Dec 28 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] Wired magazine refusing to publish the key evidence of the Manning-Lamo chat logs. for the past 6 months now. http://is.gd/jCel9 !wikileaksDec 28 06:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The worsening journalistic disgrace at Wired - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 99.34 KBDec 28 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @harishpillay just a question; any plans for you to visit China?Dec 28 07:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @gbraad I will be in Beijing Jan 9-15 for Red Hat stuff. Would love to meet the Fedora CN on 14th evening or 15th morning.Dec 28 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] addons.mozilla.org disclosure http://bit.ly/g4JyJPDec 28 07:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   addons.mozilla.org disclosure  at  Mozilla Security Blog .::. Size~: 11.15 KBDec 28 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Vryka: EC 404 Renting space www.eclipsecourt.blogspot .com #weblit #webficDec 28 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @harishpillay I'll try to see what I can do. Just get in touch before you arrive.Dec 28 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @gbraad arriving into Beijing on Sunday Jan 9th at 3pm.Dec 28 07:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A apărut VirtualBox 4.0 http://www.virtualbox.org #virtualbox #gnu #linuxDec 28 07:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VirtualBox .::. Size~: 8.2 KBDec 28 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] from March 2009: !Wikileaks writers killed in Kenya http://ur1.ca/2otwlDec 28 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @easyeddy: The ABA Bank Routing Number validation is a "Check Digit" - like credit cards. My JavaScript code for it- http://goo.gl/lP9jHDec 28 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @LucianSavluc: Some bits of My 2010 / with images ;) - http://is.gd/jBfNcDec 28 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Thumbs Up to Linux Phones for Rejecting Apple-esque Censorship http://bit.ly/eoAVD9 #Apple #CensorshipDec 28 07:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Wikileaks writers killed in Kenya > Hawaii Free Press > Articles Main  .::. Size~: 113.97 KBDec 28 07:38
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: A few days and the year is gone… farewell, 2010, welcome 2011! | CianBlog .::. Size~: 60.13 KBDec 28 07:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thumbs Up to Linux Phones for Rejecting Apple-esque Censorship | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.5 KBDec 28 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @fraterneo: La #FSF desaprueba que #TIME haya puesto a Mark Zuckerberg como persona del año http://is.gd/jBckMDec 28 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] beong put to sleep by the cat on my lap means the end of the broadcast day for me... goodnight !identiverseDec 28 07:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: fraterneo GNU/Linux: La FSF desaprueba que TIME haya puesto a Mark Zuckerberg como persona del año .::. Size~: 108.06 KBDec 28 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozilla: SUMO 2.4 – The end of the tunnel http://bit.ly/e5MifuDec 28 07:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SUMO Blog » SUMO 2.4 – The end of the tunnel .::. Size~: 21.88 KBDec 28 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: Online anonymity will come as standard on a Tor router http://bit.ly/gmz9g7 #tor #privacy #netDec 28 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Online anonymity will come as standard on a Tor router | Geek.com .::. Size~: 59.24 KBDec 28 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #KDE's Bouncy Ball widget finally has a purpose; http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/lemmlingDec 28 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: lemmling On OpenClipArt - OpenClipArt .::. Size~: 19.92 KBDec 28 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wow! 'Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux" - http://ur1.ca/2opce and http://ur1.ca/2ou4p #fbDec 28 08:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: open...: Putin Orders Russian Move to GNU/Linux .::. Size~: 99.59 KBDec 28 08:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The NSA will have a fit when they see this: Tor Routers - and if your current router can be flashed... http://bit.ly/i362MHDec 28 08:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Online anonymity will come as standard on a Tor router | Geek.com .::. Size~: 59.24 KBDec 28 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan Satisfying day of work, although we had the day off at StatusNet. Glad I got so much done on our social bookmarking plugin.Dec 28 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad: Yeah gwibber is shiteDec 28 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @ruiseabra @gbraad: Yeah gwibber is shiteDec 28 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra In some way it is; feature-creep we had., no custom API path, but it is still more usable than other apps.Dec 28 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Via @calixte - #mustread if you want to understand the evilness that is the conspiracy suspicion against Assange http://ur1.ca/2oui3Dec 28 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Director's blog | Rosenberg Fund for Children .::. Size~: 48.44 KBDec 28 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @gbraad: cpu and memory hog too, never forget that about Gwibber !Dec 28 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Via @calixte - #mustread if you want to understand the evilness that is the conspiracy suspicion against Assange http://u ...Dec 28 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 50, 51 - 2010) http://bit.ly/f9rYNkDec 28 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] YaRock 0.0.41 Released With New Toolbar And IceCast / ShoutCast Radio Browser http://bit.ly/fXbYyVDec 28 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 22 – 27/12/10 http://tinyurl.com/34ztu7sDec 28 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This could become the template for #Assange case. It's the same espionage act of 1917. http://www.rfc.org/caseoverviewDec 28 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Weeks 50, 51 - 2010) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 63.87 KBDec 28 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YaRock 0.0.41 Released With New Toolbar And IceCast / ShoutCast Radio Browser ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 68.75 KBDec 28 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 22 – 27/12/10 « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 34.55 KBDec 28 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Case Overview | Rosenberg Fund for Children .::. Size~: 28.59 KBDec 28 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @ruiseabra completely forgot about that... it never showed above the Flasg pluginDec 28 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer This could become the template for #Assange case. It's the same espionage act of 1917. http://www.rfc.org/caseoverviewDec 28 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Case Overview | Rosenberg Fund for Children .::. Size~: 28.59 KBDec 28 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @sebsebseb It's nice and very self-explanatory :DDec 28 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] More State Dept. Cables Show Swedish Copyright Enforcement At The Behest Of US - http://bit.ly/i75B7P who cares about Special 301 Report?Dec 28 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Once Again, More State Dept. Cables Show Swedish Copyright Enforcement At The Behest Of US | Techdirt .::. Size~: 35.5 KBDec 28 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Six crimes a day' solved by CCTV, Met says - http://bbc.in/i7soI2 utterly meaningless: may have been solved without it... #fud #cctvDec 28 09:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - 'Six crimes a day' solved by CCTV, Met says .::. Size~: 58.03 KBDec 28 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "#Copyright expired, everybody free. 2011 will be the year of Gatsby and Margarita" - http://bit.ly/giJo1e more books printed as a resultDec 28 09:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Copyright expired, everybody free. 2011 will be the year of Gatsby and Margarita" | COMMUNIA - The European Thematic Network on the Digital Public Domain .::. Size~: 15.25 KBDec 28 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Off to ubin for the hash run. #fb http://ur1.ca/2out0Dec 28 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Its about time! ♻ @didiermisson Chip and PIN is broken : http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2010/02/11/chip-and-pin-is-broken/ #fbDec 28 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @didiermisson Cambridge refuse de censurer une thèse sur l'insécurité des cartes bancaires : http://ur1.ca/2okknDec 28 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anonymous Twitter Account Named Music Critic of Year by Village Voice - http://rww.to/f79HKS how very 2011 #twitter #musicDec 28 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Off to ubin for the hash run. #fb http://ur1.ca/2out2Dec 28 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cambridge refuse de censurer une thèse sur l'insécurité des cartes bancaires .::. Size~: 119.79 KBDec 28 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Anonymous Twitter Account Named Music Critic of Year by Village Voice  .::. Size~: 49.6 KBDec 28 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] I just matched a $5 donation to #Wikipedia. Help keep it free! #keepitfree http://redd.it/eseiuDec 28 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Firefox is most popular browser in #Armenia - http://bit.ly/eR76Ek FF: 41%, Chrome: 27%, IE: 19% #browsersDec 28 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox is most popular browser in Armenia - PanARMENIAN.Net .::. Size~: 38.37 KBDec 28 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #Tiger Summit and the "Tiger State" - http://bit.ly/h7E7t1 depressing info from #IndiaDec 28 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Dradio Wissen Interview mit @grote !fsfe über #CloudComputing und Freie Software !fs http://ur1.ca/2ouuh !gnuDec 28 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] #Dradio Wissen interview with @grote !fsfe about #CloudComputing and !freesoftware http://ur1.ca/2ouuh (in German) !gnuDec 28 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dradio Wissen Interview: Cloud Computing und Freie Software «  I love it here .::. Size~: 10.41 KBDec 28 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dradio Wissen Interview: Cloud Computing und Freie Software «  I love it here .::. Size~: 10.41 KBDec 28 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I showed up at @ Reggia Di Venaria #4sqDec 28 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] @ruiseabra can you please send a report to web@fsfeurope.org about the blogs layout? Thanks!Dec 28 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @wildcard: ♺ @hook: How #swpat will Ruin the World: http://is.gd/jAfJn !fsfe !fs Help improving http://ur1.ca/2ouwqDec 28 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   How Software Patents Will Ruin the World .::. Size~: 28.55 KBDec 28 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FSFE - Software Patents in Europe .::. Size~: 15.08 KBDec 28 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Looks like some Chinese company is registering all linuxoutlaws.*.cn domains. Weird.... !loDec 28 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Today’s war on #climate scientists is worse than under the Bush Administration - http://bit.ly/g2CEqk what a disgrace #denialistsDec 28 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Today’s war on climate scientists is worse than under the Bush Administration | Climate Science Watch .::. Size~: 31.46 KBDec 28 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Permission Culture And The Automated Diminishment Of Fair Use - http://bit.ly/dHRxx3 subtle but important point #fairuse #copyrightDec 28 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Permission Culture And The Automated Diminishment Of Fair Use | Techdirt .::. Size~: 107.3 KBDec 28 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Libel Reform Part 1: the purpose of defamation law - http://bit.ly/gKLjn5 great post; 2011 year we must get this sorted in UKDec 28 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Light Peak Explained: New Connection Standard Promises 10 Gbps Or More - http://bit.ly/eH68DS looks exciting #opticsDec 28 10:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jack of Kent: Libel Reform Part 1: the purpose of defamation law .::. Size~: 78.98 KBDec 28 10:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Light Peak Explained: New Connection Standard Promises 10 Gbps Or More .::. Size~: 70.56 KBDec 28 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] I just matched two more donations of $5 each to !Wikipedia. Help keep it free! #keepitfree http://redd.it/eseiuDec 28 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Report: Spanish Minister Vows to Pass Site Blocking Anyway - http://bit.ly/fI0e8l democracy? who needs it...? #spain #censorshipDec 28 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] #desire pushed another update pre-gingerbread, curious.Dec 28 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems #cablegate releases are slowing down? No news in Guardian, Spiegel for the last few days ...Dec 28 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 'Jewish WikiLeaks' goes live in Jerusalem - http://bit.ly/i5OB0W hardly a #wikileaks, but still welcome (via @evgenymorozov) #israelDec 28 11:48
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MinceRgeekingsDec 28 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @guido !free software in #education. My collected news of the last 3 months: http://www.ur1.ca/2oppk !ofset !fsfeDec 28 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software in education: October – December 2010 « Being Fellow #952 of FSFE .::. Size~: 94.74 KBDec 28 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] In Scotland this has been a prescription through the District Nurses after an appointment to prove you're still trying http://bbc.in/dXoAs1Dec 28 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Report: Spanish Minister Vows to Pass Site Blocking Anyway - http://bit.ly/fI0e8l democracy? who needs it...? #spain #censorshDec 28 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Nicotine patches to be offered to England smokers .::. Size~: 58.59 KBDec 28 12:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Note the story switches from "counterfeit" to "stolen" to bring in some "law" deterrent http://bbc.in/dV3Ngh peeps KNOW they're fake #priceDec 28 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] A very good point indeed http://twitpic.com/3kgjygDec 28 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Berkshire shoppers targeted in crackdown on fake goods .::. Size~: 56.47 KBDec 28 12:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  My point exactly! on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 11.45 KBDec 28 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @rahulsundaram #MySQL 5.5 is now in Rawhide http://ur1.ca/2ovi8 Will be part of !Fedora 15 along with #PostgreSQL 9 http://ur1.ca/2ovi9Dec 28 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @arnebab ♻ @glynmoody: Report: Spanish Minister Vows to Pass Site Blocking Anyway - http://bit.ly/fI0e8l democracy? who needs it...? ...Dec 28 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  [HEADS-UP] MySQL 5.5 coming soon to rawhide     .::. Size~: 3.96 KBDec 28 12:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Any plans for PostgreSQL 9, MySQL 5.5 in F15?      .::. Size~: 2.33 KBDec 28 12:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @kirschner: Sent with a screenshot attached!Dec 28 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Protect Whistleblowers at the Big Banks http://bit.ly/eP8cy3 "Crimes committed by the big banks helped crash our economy -- and WikiLeaks.."Dec 28 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] If !spurs do tha Geordies taneet pet, we's ganin 4th, wayeh ahk'n seeyit noo! :DDec 28 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The increased accumulation and consolidation of corporate power is a threat to our democracy." http://bit.ly/giAJBX history's lessonDec 28 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Protect Whistleblowers at the Big Banks! | Demand Progress .::. Size~: 9.48 KBDec 28 12:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Tell the FCC:  Block the merger of Comcast and NBC Universal  .::. Size~: 16.93 KBDec 28 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @hook How Software Patents Will Ruin the World: http://is.gd/jAfJn #swpat → !FSFEDec 28 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Ext4 filesystem hits !Android, no need to fear data loss http://goo.gl/O778xDec 28 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NYT pseudo- #paywall does not even work. I just access articles via lynx and see like half a dozen cookies! #malware #spyware #newyorktimesDec 28 12:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ext4 filesystem hits Android, no need to fear data loss .::. Size~: 31.95 KBDec 28 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] was at the bank today, explained to staff that asking people to sign forms re money laundering is like asking terrorists, "r u a terrorist?"Dec 28 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] Just hit my $25 limit with another matching donation of $10 to !Wikipedia. Who'll pick up to help #keepitfree? http://redd.it/eseckDec 28 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Permission Culture And The Automated Diminishment Of Fair Use - http://bit.ly/dHRxx3 subtle but important point #fairuseDec 28 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: #Libel Reform Part 1: the purpose of defamation law - http://bit.ly/gKLjn5 great post; 2011 year we must get this sorted in UKDec 28 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education: 2010 in review | http://bit.ly/fZh9c5 #opensource #moodle #ipad #textbooks #highschoolDec 28 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Permission Culture And The Automated Diminishment Of Fair Use | Techdirt .::. Size~: 110.57 KBDec 28 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jack of Kent: Libel Reform Part I: the purpose of defamation law .::. Size~: 80.55 KBDec 28 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Open*Education: 2010 in review  | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.36 KBDec 28 12:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @GdnCables Two !ACTA !WikiLeaks cables released http://ur1.ca/2n827 http://ur1.ca/2n822 !cablegate #youaskwesearch #Italy, #EU & #SwedenDec 28 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: More State Dept. Cables Show Swedish Copyright Enforcement At The Behest Of US - http://bit.ly/i75B7PDec 28 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US embassy cables: Italy, the EU and the Anti-Counterfeit Trading Agreement | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 99.9 KBDec 28 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US embassy cables: Sweden's concerns about Anti-Counterfeit Trading Agreement negotiations | World news | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 101.01 KBDec 28 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Once Again, More State Dept. Cables Show Swedish Copyright Enforcement At The Behest Of US | Techdirt .::. Size~: 49.19 KBDec 28 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2010-12-28: Operation Payback DDoS attacks on Bank of America http://wlcentral.org/node/728 Hmm... not productive protestDec 28 12:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2010-12-28: Operation Payback DDoS attacks on Bank of America  | WL Central .::. Size~: 20.02 KBDec 28 12:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !football streamed online !spurs vs newcastle http://footystream.net/live-streaming/Dec 28 12:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Live Streaming  : Live Football Streaming .::. Size~: 16.37 KBDec 28 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @laurelrusswurm: rt @StopActaNow NBC Universal & MPAA Get NYC To Run Propaganda 'Anti-Piracy' Ad Campaign |http://ur1.ca/2oswrDec 28 12:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NBC Universal & MPAA Get NYC To Run Propaganda 'Anti-Piracy' Ad Campaign | Techdirt .::. Size~: 76.34 KBDec 28 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @q4td: Debt, n. An ingenious substitute for the chain and whip of the slave driver. — Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary #qDec 28 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "It looks like Wikileaks is making people think for once"Dec 28 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Copyrights vs Human Rights - http://bit.ly/hR4qCd [by me, on CWUK]Dec 28 12:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyrights vs Human Rights - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 64.68 KBDec 28 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-12-28: The first truly honest privacy policy Whenever you see any claim to be respecting your pr... http://wmk.me/hhnwEaDec 28 13:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: links for 2010-12-28 « Wild Webmink .::. Size~: 54.43 KBDec 28 13:06
MinceRhttp://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2848Dec 28 13:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ASCII by Jason Scott  / Yahoo!locaust .::. Size~: 54.51 KBDec 28 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @ark74: Love it! - http://www.fsf.org/facebook http://ur1.ca/2op4sDec 28 13:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Zuckerberg is TIME Magazine's Person of the Year? Where's the "dislike" button? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 33.19 KBDec 28 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Very cool: "Howto build a fake google streetview car" http://bit.ly/e7jqX3Dec 28 13:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to build a fake Google Street View car | F.A.T. Lab - Free Art & Technology .::. Size~: 65.78 KBDec 28 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Another reason for not being on #Twitter "Who to follow Suggestions for you: #Microsoft * Promoted" #fail http://is.gd/jDmfCDec 28 13:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: Open*Education 2010 best images | http://bit.ly/fswf2QDec 28 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RapidShare Shows MPAA/RIAA: We Can Lobby Lawmakers Too - http://bit.ly/fQkCFi important, if sad, development #lobbyingDec 28 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Poll: Open*Education 2010 best images | opensource.com .::. Size~: 44.01 KBDec 28 13:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    RapidShare Shows MPAA/RIAA: We Can Lobby Lawmakers Too | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 40.12 KBDec 28 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows http://bit.ly/h4bM5K "a) S$887.15 for the N-series; b) S$1045.79 for the same machine with ‘doze." !linuxDec 28 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyrights vs Human Rights - http://bit.ly/iewNU2 excellent summary of what is at stake: "Our #rights are worth more than their #copyrights"Dec 28 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @richslxh @harishpillay That's a great post! :) So buying a Dell with Windows costs an extra S$158.64. I wonder what that is in €'s.Dec 28 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 181.26 KBDec 28 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyrights vs Human Rights - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 64.68 KBDec 28 13:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shouldn't We Fix The Check Clearing Loophole That So Many Scammers Abuse? - http://bit.ly/f9Wsmw but why would #banks help customers?Dec 28 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shouldn't We Fix The Check Clearing Loophole That So Many Scammers Abuse? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.95 KBDec 28 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: Copyrights vs Human Rights - http://bit.ly/iewNU2 excellent summary of what is at stakeDec 28 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: RapidShare Shows MPAA/RIAA: We Can Lobby Lawmakers Too - http://bit.ly/fQkCFi important, if sad, development #lobbyingDec 28 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyrights vs Human Rights - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 64.79 KBDec 28 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    RapidShare Shows MPAA/RIAA: We Can Lobby Lawmakers Too | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 40.15 KBDec 28 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Beware Counterfeit Goods http://bit.ly/eb4wcdDec 28 13:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Beware Counterfeit Goods | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 25.76 KBDec 28 13:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @richslxh I wonder how many get sold with OS installed. I know here in Spain it's quite easy to get computers with no OS.Dec 28 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #Facebook searching for ego's "Compete for fame, fortune, glory" That is why they don't do Open Source #fail http://is.gd/jDpD7Dec 28 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @trashbird1240 Another treatise on object-oriented programming, from someone who seems to know way more than I do http://ur1.ca/2omx1Dec 28 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody it is also a matter of habits and legacy. See Linus' famous rants about C++.Dec 28 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @trashbird1240 it is also a matter of habits and legacy. See Linus' famous rants about C++.Dec 28 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody oops. drop-down fail. last message intended for someone else.Dec 28 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] /me will certainly get some feedback on that "they do Open Source", "they contributed"... that is not being the point. Get rid of the ego!Dec 28 13:45
MinceRsounds like someone who failed to learn OOP and can only whine about itDec 28 13:45
MinceRand wants his hand to be held through the whole thingDec 28 13:46
MinceRand hasn't heard about prototype-based object modelsDec 28 13:46
*abeNd-org (~KKlenke@tx-76-0-83-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrightsDec 28 13:49
MinceRalso a sloppy coder who can't be bothered to do things rightDec 28 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] argh... typosDec 28 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cablegate Wiki - http://bit.ly/fuX4S5 "To ensure every cable released by #Wikileaks is documented, summarised and analysed" (v @flanagankev)Dec 28 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !linux fun bash script, call it "memeater" #!/bin/bash then next line down $0. Make executable and run it. It'll use all your swap+ram :)Dec 28 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @maha #freemanning !27c3 !wikileaks http://twitpic.com/3k6zrh /via @faselDec 28 14:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  #freemanning #27c3 #wikileaks on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 11.58 KBDec 28 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @glynmoody CableGateWiki? Too descriptive. I propose calling it TwitterLeaks instead so people don't realise they are actually using a wiki.Dec 28 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @harishpillay Something almost every two-tap basin needs - http://bit.ly/g31ksK #fbDec 28 14:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @harishpillay No surprise that MS paid Novell to attend the OOXML meetings - http://bit.ly/gDsaiW //boycott the 'new Novell' (Attach*) tooDec 28 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - So. What Now? .::. Size~: 265.64 KBDec 28 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @ !linux #bit-of-fun What are your favourite Bash Aliases?Dec 28 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] De Gucht: "#ACTA addresses issues that are unquestionably exclusive competences of the European Union" - http://bit.ly/igEId3 (v @FFII)Dec 28 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @richslxh Futurama Quotes (needs curl): function futurama() { curl -Is slashdot.org | egrep '^X-(F|B|L)' | cut -d \- -f 2; }Dec 28 14:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 October Priority Questions - Act-on-ACTA .::. Size~: 53.34 KBDec 28 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink CableGateWiki? Too descriptive.I propose calling it TwitterLeaks instead so people don't realise they are actually using a wiki.Dec 28 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody De Gucht: "#ACTA addresses issues that are unquestionably exclusive competences of the European Union" http://bit.ly/igEId3Dec 28 14:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 20 October Priority Questions - Act-on-ACTA .::. Size~: 53.34 KBDec 28 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Pátria do liberalismo? :-D http://economico.sapo.pt/noticias/accoes-da-aig-disparam-9-em-wall-street_107577.htmlDec 28 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gonna have to polish my latest code this week before I upload it to repositories. All GPLv3.Dec 28 14:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acções da AIG disparam 9% em Wall Street |  Económico .::. Size~: 51.97 KBDec 28 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2011 preview: The #internet peak comes into view - http://bit.ly/e5kJcr peak *annual increase*, not peak user base...Dec 28 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011 preview: The internet peak comes into view - tech - 28 December 2010 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 54.45 KBDec 28 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "someone in the audience asked how new #publishing models could pay for 'all this'" - http://oreil.ly/f8gaWY answer: wrong questionDec 28 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What lies ahead: Publishing - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 49.3 KBDec 28 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Intelligent Theft - http://bit.ly/efUwKm "Beatles songs started out with them trying to “do” another artist" #copyrightDec 28 14:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intelligent Theft | zenbullets.com .::. Size~: 26 KBDec 28 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Cisco Systems Inc. estimates that there are 200 billion spam messages circulating a day" http://yhoo.it/gXLQbE #windows #botnets #spamDec 28 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Giving money to charity this holiday season? How to give without getting got? | http://bit.ly/iceprbDec 28 14:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Man quits job, makes living suing e-mail spammers - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 161.83 KBDec 28 14:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter ... BREAKING! Maritimes pounded by weather, http://bit.ly/fUICTyDec 28 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @canadiancynic: P.S. I think a Cdn remake of "Red Dawn" would be awesome. I see Don Cherry, leading the crack 101st Fighting KeyboardistsDec 28 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @themadhatter @glynmoody Groklaw is a fantastic resource, and it gets more valuable every day. /indeedDec 28 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] is it Opposite Day, or what: http://ur1.ca/2ox21Dec 28 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] White House Terms Permanent Detention Without Trial ‘Regrettable’ http://bit.ly/fEW05b Carlin: we like war http://bit.ly/gVSQrnDec 28 14:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4chan Has Been DDOSed - Slashdot .::. Size~: 110.43 KBDec 28 14:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   White House Terms Permanent Detention Without Trial ‘Regrettable’  --   News from Antiwar.com   .::. Size~: 37.6 KBDec 28 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2010 Trend Watch Update: Three Strikes: Truth and Consequences https://eff.org/r.w8aDec 28 14:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2010 Trend Watch Update: Three Strikes: Truth and Consequences | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.58 KBDec 28 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ENDitorial: Net neutrality - wait and see the end of the open Internet http://bit.ly/hp4KJL bad December for the NetDec 28 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm Christian Engström, Pirate MEP: Foil Hats off to Sweden's puppet government http://ur1.ca/2oohz !wikiLeaks !cablegateDec 28 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @pla1 My gadget of the year 2010. !NexusOne http://is.gd/jA36YDec 28 14:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How come everyone forgot about about the #TSA fiasco? That's how unacceptable disruptions become normalised. http://bit.ly/gx2fUKDec 28 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One Time Only: Scientist-on-Scientist TSA Smackdown - James Fallows - Technology - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 119.97 KBDec 28 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @kondziu: @rysiek Live by DDOS, die by DDOS. http://ur1.ca/2ox21 #oppositedayDec 28 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Cavaco aparece em primeiro no boletim de voto das eleições" http://ur1.ca/2oxa4Dec 28 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 4chan Has Been DDOSed - Slashdot .::. Size~: 131.79 KBDec 28 15:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Público - Cavaco aparece em primeiro no boletim de voto das eleições  .::. Size~: 40.97 KBDec 28 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Televisão é o cancro da democracia! http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/lazer/tv--media/julia-vai-receber-um-milhao-na-sicDec 28 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Holiday Statement from Bradley Manning http://wlcentral.org/node/708 probably did more for his country than all the current SoS' combinedDec 28 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Júlia vai receber um milhão na SIC  - TV & Media - Correio da Manhã  .::. Size~: 198.71 KBDec 28 15:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Holiday Statement from Bradley Manning | WL Central .::. Size~: 21.32 KBDec 28 15:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A carneirada faz tudo o que lhe mandam! http://ur1.ca/2oxccDec 28 15:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Uma centena de pessoas foi para o centro comercial despida - Economia - Correio da Manhã  .::. Size~: 205.81 KBDec 28 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm I continue to be angry that Tom Flanagan is uncharged while Byron Sonne is punitively denied bail http://ur1.ca/2n1n7Dec 28 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm Flanagan's crime has been witnessed by the world; the myopic University of Calgary can't see it http://ur1.ca/2n1n7 !wlDec 28 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm How insane is it for the U of Calgary to allow a monster like #Flanagan to teach Canadian Students? http://ur1.ca/2n1n7Dec 28 15:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: #Flanagan again «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 59.59 KBDec 28 15:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: #Flanagan again «  Oh! Canada .::. Size~: 59.59 KBDec 28 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Vid] #Flanagan advocates assassination of Australia lad who did nothing wrong,but it's OK because Flanagan wears suit http://bit.ly/dRuOrsDec 28 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm How crazy is the Government of Canada to allow the world to believe it condones assassination? #Flanagan #cdnpoliDec 28 15:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Wikileaks - Tom Flanagan Assasination of Assange comments possible charges    .::. Size~: 129.8 KBDec 28 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @theMindjuggler Flanagan proposed assasinating Assange- still allowed to teach? PETITION http://bit.ly/ejT3pq Keep him away from the Uni!Dec 28 15:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Dr. Tom Flanagon’s immediate expulsion from University of Calgary Petition  .::. Size~: 9.82 KBDec 28 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm "Under no circumstances should corporations EVER be allowed to dictate morality or ethics to human beings."~me !qDec 28 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz @laurelrusswurm Harper conservatives admire US, lust 4 same Presidential power 2order actual assassinations #Flanagan #cdnpoliDec 28 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz ♻ @theMindjuggler Flanagan proposed assasinating Assange- still allowed to teach? PETITION http://bit.ly/ejT3pq Keep him ...Dec 28 15:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Dr. Tom Flanagon’s immediate expulsion from University of Calgary Petition  .::. Size~: 9.82 KBDec 28 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] i am using #Pidgin for xmpp/google talk + #identica + #twitter + m$n... FFeed support would be nice ;)Dec 28 15:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ggreenwald So we'll scorn #Assange 4 writing a book to pay legal fees when politicians become multi-millionaires via book contracts? !wlDec 28 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @CDemerjian Moral, buy less combustion-prone laptops than Sonys. http://twurl.nl/tvh6kb #Sony #fire #hazardDec 28 15:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SemiAccurate :: My Sony Vaio just caught fire  .::. Size~: 39.91 KBDec 28 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This explains why Google hired Ted: http://bit.ly/g5OC5v (Ext4 filesystem hits Android, no need to fear data loss)Dec 28 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 8 A brief history of commercial gaming on Linux (and how it's all about to change) http://bit.ly/aaE13dDec 28 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @nightrose time for 4.6 release parties everywhere http://ur1.ca/2oxdi http://ur1.ca/2oxdj - help organize one! !KDEDec 28 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A brief history of commercial gaming on Linux (and how it's all about to change) | opensource.com .::. Size~: 69.03 KBDec 28 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: life at the end of the universe » call for 4.6 release parties .::. Size~: 31.08 KBDec 28 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Promo/ReleaseParties/4.6 - KDE Community Wiki .::. Size~: 14.86 KBDec 28 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] !Wikileaks revela operación de paladar hendido de Alvaro Colom http://rod.gs/SFe #escandalogtDec 28 15:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: demultiplexing data...: Wikileaks revela operacion de paladar hendido de Alvaro Colom .::. Size~: 154.3 KBDec 28 15:41
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61190131Dec 28 15:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Luke Slater (reality)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Dec-10 15:20:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz s/politicians/psychotic murdering politicians/Dec 28 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Installing Mythdora on the mythbox....Dec 28 15:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia Opa, tais conseguindo conversas com voz pelo Gtalk no Pdigin ???Dec 28 15:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RegulusdeLeo/status/19777904053325824Dec 28 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr@RegulusdeLeo: @schestowitz I hate 2 disturb the fantasy word of Cnd Leftwingers w actual facts but Tom Flanagan is not a spokesman 4 the Cdn govt #cdnpoliDec 28 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Liberty is an absence -- the absence of coercion. Liberty is threatened by presence -- the presence of tyrants. Patriotism is ops'ng tyrantsDec 28 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] conf.KDE.in: First KDE Conference in India - http://bit.ly/e4FhVC v. sensible move #india #kdeDec 28 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: conf.KDE.in: First KDE Conference in India | KDE.news .::. Size~: 12.89 KBDec 28 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lightweight Linux Choices For Older Computers http://bit.ly/dRTOd3 "The Linux winner for my desktop was arrived at in an unlikely manner."Dec 28 15:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lightweight Linux Choices For Older Computers | Welcome, Ven a gozar! .::. Size~: 30.92 KBDec 28 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A bountiful year for open source http://bit.ly/eWU67m "Open source content management systems like web.py, phpBB, CakePHP, Lift, Drupal..."Dec 28 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FCC, CBS Continue To Battle Over Janet Jackson Reveal - http://bit.ly/epz7lA do they really have nothing better to do in life? #trivialityDec 28 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] last post via @jeffjarvisDec 28 16:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A bountiful year for open source | Open Source - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 103.09 KBDec 28 16:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FCC, CBS Continue To Battle Over Janet Jackson Reveal - 2010-12-27 14:22:46 | Broadcasting & Cable .::. Size~: 71.16 KBDec 28 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux in education: a genuine alternative http://bit.ly/fXsvbY for a change, something positive from Graham MorrisonDec 28 16:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux in education: a genuine alternative | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 88.62 KBDec 28 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Linux Game Xonotic (Nexuiz Fork) Preview Released http://bit.ly/gZVjRs lots of gaming news this monthDec 28 16:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Game Xonotic (Nexuiz Fork) Preview Released ~ Ubuntu Vibes .::. Size~: 101.31 KBDec 28 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Golden Tux awards for 2010: Linux and open source winners http://bit.ly/gWwCpT accolades for !kde - agreedDec 28 16:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  The Golden Tux awards for 2010: Linux and open source winners | Linux and Open Source  | TechRepublic.com  .::. Size~: 64.6 KBDec 28 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox is most popular browser in #Armenia http://bit.ly/gmhh49 support Mozilla, we don't want Apple/Google/Microsoft oligarchyDec 28 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox is most popular browser in Armenia - PanARMENIAN.Net .::. Size~: 38.42 KBDec 28 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My new Audible books won’t load on my Android phone http://bit.ly/g5qAtm "AudibleActivation.sys" sounds like #DRMDec 28 16:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My new Audible books won’t load on my Android phone «  Stormy's Corner .::. Size~: 13.34 KBDec 28 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 did you read the log I sent you? We're thinking about starting a company.Dec 28 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz Thanks, I did read log, quite interesting. Of course I endorse both your and @quadricode's goals. Let's talk more in New Year!Dec 28 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good Morning !identica ! :D (it is technically morning here for nearly another hour)Dec 28 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AlwaysOnPC - Office & Firefox http://bit.ly/e2m2F9 "running Fedora Linux with 2GB of storage, the OpenOffice Suite, Firefox..."Dec 28 16:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AlwaysOnPC - Office & Firefox Review | Android Arcade and Action App - PCWorld .::. Size~: 92.55 KBDec 28 16:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Video:] Kubuntu 11.04 alpha1 (dailybuild) with Kde 4.6rc Overview http://bit.ly/gJo8cd !kde !kubuntuDec 28 16:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Kubuntu 11.04 alpha1 (dailybuild) with Kde 4.6rc Overview    .::. Size~: 150.91 KBDec 28 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm Sounds like the Quislings have taken over Sweden's government.Dec 28 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz [Video:] Kubuntu 11.04 alpha1 (dailybuild) with Kde 4.6rc Overview http://bit.ly/gJo8cd !kde !kubuntuDec 28 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - Kubuntu 11.04 alpha1 (dailybuild) with Kde 4.6rc Overview    .::. Size~: 149.36 KBDec 28 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 You may have something there. Just it always seemed to me that assassination practiced by governments is a bad precedent. #copycatDec 28 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @canadiancynic: Cdn economy to slow in 2011, http://bit.ly/gnaOc0; Harper blames coalition; Tom Flanagan offers 2 whack the responsible.Dec 28 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CBC News - Money - Economic growth expected to slow in 2011 .::. Size~: 33.29 KBDec 28 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TorontoPolice: RT @toptweets: RT @twitter: PSA: Don't Tweet & Drive. @ATT documentary is a powerful reminder. http://t.co/enAROaK #twiveDec 28 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 I agree government assassination is totally unacceptable. But governments can't even be seen to condone assassination. #cdnpoliDec 28 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: RT @theDivaLea: RT @GeneHa Stan Lee was born 88 years ago today! To my dad's regret, he inspired me never to get a real job.Dec 28 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 A government that even appears to condone assassination adds a veneer of legitimacy to those wishing to assassinate them #FlanaganDec 28 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @canadiancynic: Aung San Suu Kyi chides @pmharper 4 undemocratic acts; T Flanagan warns Suu Kyi - knows where she lives. Silence follows.Dec 28 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @laurelrusswurm Of course-because it is outside any rule of law. But where was outrage when US Admin openly ordered killing of own citizen?!Dec 28 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 As to our government's motivations... well, frankly the decree of sycophancy expressed by our government is rather appalling.Dec 28 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Mimi and Eunice: Anonymity http://j.mp/dTGqZxDec 28 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] Outrageous #Slashdot summary cheats @rms of rightful credit for opening modern F/OSS era http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/12/28/1548226Dec 28 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 The sad truth is that all the governments are behaving so badly on so many fronts that there is so much to be outraged about.Dec 28 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Re Nipplegate, was watching 1st year of Sweeney on DVD, saw nipples there. What was that, 1972?Dec 28 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymity « Mimi and Eunice .::. Size~: 62.77 KBDec 28 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source After 12 Years - Slashdot .::. Size~: 102.28 KBDec 28 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@laurelrusswurm It's not just sycophancy; worse, Harperism calls 4,&does,abandon rule of law in lieu of arbitrary authoritarianism #cdnpoliDec 28 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @webmink: Copyrights vs Human Rights - http://bit.ly/hR4qCd [by me, on CWUK]Dec 28 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 You might argue that James Bond movies popularized the idea of a government license to kill. After Sean Connery did it, it was OKDec 28 16:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyrights vs Human Rights - Simon Says... .::. Size~: 65.25 KBDec 28 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @qu1j0t3 Outrageous #Slashdot summary cheats @rms of rightful credit for opening modern F/OSS era http://bit.ly/eW6FVIDec 28 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@laurelrusswurm Proof of authoritarian intent does not come plainer than #g20, or shameful treatment of Cdn detainees. #Harperstan #cdnpoliDec 28 16:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source After 12 Years - Slashdot .::. Size~: 108.88 KBDec 28 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Try more than 15 years since the movement began. When the history ain't right I don't bother to RTFA." http://bit.ly/i0mY0CDec 28 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 These are all reasons why we so badly need reform.Dec 28 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink could have mentioned punishment of entire family. plus, I don't agree that © infringement is wrongDec 28 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@laurelrusswurm Hollywood enlisted to sell all these ideas. Surveillance,torture,endless war,totalitarianism. Few films lack these subtextsDec 28 16:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source After 12 Years - Slashdot .::. Size~: 110.8 KBDec 28 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dothidden/@dothidden] hey, !Wikileaks 4 those who don't like Mark Zuckerberg being the TIME's Person of the Year, there's a 'dislike button': http://ur1.ca/2mrtyDec 28 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz F/OSS movement began in 1950s; @RMS gave it legal force to start a revolution. Revisionist summary on Slashdot is despicable.Dec 28 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Zuckerberg is TIME Magazine's Person of the Year? Where's the "dislike" button? — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 30.66 KBDec 28 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Day annoyance... Intelligent and critical people when using a PC/m$-windowze become...stupid and acritical!Dec 28 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @ovigia Day annoyance... Intelligent and critical people when using a PC/m$-windowze become...stupid and acritical!Dec 28 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1927376&cid=34687784Dec 28 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody I think Americans are still in the eighteenth century myself.Dec 28 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source After 12 Years - Slashdot .::. Size~: 38.37 KBDec 28 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 When government abdicates its basic duty of citizen protection there is no equity; without which there's no #democracy. #cdnpoliDec 28 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wow! CNN delivers as much false propaganda as #Fox ; no wonder the Chinese DDOSed them. See http://bit.ly/hJmZRx !wikileaks #cnn #failDec 28 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 yupDec 28 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: GLENN GREENWALD vs FRAN TOWNSEND WIKILEAKS DEBATE .::. Size~: 5.44 KBDec 28 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US public is being greased up for viewing !wikileaks as anarchy and crime. It's like Pentagon papers all over again. #propaganda #cnnDec 28 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Sweden isn't the only government acting like a US sock puppet... look to Ottawa The only support for !BillC32 is from the #USADec 28 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz The US public is being greased up for viewing !wikileaks as anarchy and crime. It's like Pentagon papers all over again. ...Dec 28 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Entire family: I agree, and it's implied at the end of the last para of "Cultural Conduit"Dec 28 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz The US public is being greased up for viewing !wikileaks as anarchy and crime. It's like Pentagon papers all over again. ...Dec 28 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Copyright infringement remains a civil offence in every country I know until we get it reformed.Dec 28 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @agentsmith com voz nunca tentei....Dec 28 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@laurelrusswurm Which makes this label, or fig leaf, of "democracy" all the more offensive when applied to our "Western" plutocracies. :-|Dec 28 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz this is one of the most shitty overviews I've seen in months. the guy sounds like he's on KDE for the first time in his lifeDec 28 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @schestowitz he's constantly *wondering* what to do. come on, if somebody does a *review* they should already *know* what they want to showDec 28 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☝ Your Rights Or Their Copyrights?: What crime do you have to commit where you live to be forbidden to walk on t... http://wmk.me/fFwuiGDec 28 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva I've made "family" more obvious in para 1 of "Disproportionate Punishment" though.Dec 28 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] back to tidying up some code, will post some experiment results (videos) soon...Dec 28 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @qu1j0t3: Outrageous Slashdot summary cheats @rms of rightful credit for opening modern F/OSS era http://ur1.ca/2oy8d /RD invisible GNUDec 28 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source After 12 Years - Slashdot .::. Size~: 127.55 KBDec 28 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink still, great article!Dec 28 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @rysiek indeed, but it shows you a little bit of cutting-edge kde4 in action, so not all badDec 28 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva Thanks, appreciated. Will be republished on my own site next week as usual.Dec 28 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink ah, good, I didn't catch thatDec 28 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @qu1j0t3 Really it doesn't. It's just referring to a different anniversary. Deep breaths. /cc @lxolivaDec 28 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink illicit doesn't mean wrong, or that shouldn't be done. complying with an unjust law is often worse that breaking itDec 28 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] tv3 news little boy airport http://bit.ly/dSCNEp funny collision. #xmasDec 28 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva I simply avoid copyrighted material where the owner doesn't want me to enjoy it.Dec 28 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education top 10 posts of 2010: No. 6 - Open source goes to high school | opensource.com http://bit.ly/e2ny5NDec 28 17:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open source goes to high school | opensource.com .::. Size~: 59.59 KBDec 28 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink owner?!? copyright is not ownership, nor is it property. why should we care what s/he (or, more often, an intermediary) wants?Dec 28 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia Bah, estou tendo problemas. Ora funciona, ora tranca. Tá complicado. Skype é o único que funciona 100%.Dec 28 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia Pensei q podias me dar alguma dica, mas, se não usas, de nada adianta. Gracias.Dec 28 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @webmink linked article mentioned @rms in opening paragraph, so, not quite. still failed to mention GNUDec 28 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Will Intel's Sandy Bridge & P67 Play Well With Linux?: Next week Intel is set to roll out their much-anticipated... http://bit.ly/eEy3g4Dec 28 17:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Will Intel's Sandy Bridge & P67 Play Well With Linux? .::. Size~: 19.52 KBDec 28 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @agentsmith oki sorry...Dec 28 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How 'Piracy' Helped Establish The Dominance Of Nigerian Films - http://bit.ly/glXJKM maybe this is the future of #cinema #nigeriaDec 28 17:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How 'Piracy' Helped Establish The Dominance Of Nigerian Films | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.77 KBDec 28 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@webmink I know there is a "different anniversary". But the way summary is written is *deliberately* counterfactual!! @schestowitzDec 28 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] anybody here tried using PhpLdapAdmin 1.2.x on Debian Lenny? I get bunch of strange errors, "blowfish.php line 445" relatedDec 28 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] @lxoliva If anyone wanted to make a Spanish or Portuguese translation I'd post it simultaneously next week ;-)Dec 28 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Top comment on YouTube: "With media like this, you don't need state propaganda" @ggreenwald on CNN http://ur1.ca/2oyn1 #Assange !wikiLeaksDec 28 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Maybe CNN doesn't do this but good investigative journalists work w/their sources all the time 2 give them classified info"~ @ggreenwald !qDec 28 18:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:      YouTube         - GLENN GREENWALD vs FRAN TOWNSEND WIKILEAKS DEBATE    .::. Size~: 134.47 KBDec 28 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] & the winner is Glenn Greenwald "That's what journalists do."~ @ggreenwald !q http://tinyogg.com/watch/2zYkb/ !WikiLeaks #cablegate #AssangeDec 28 18:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: GLENN GREENWALD vs FRAN TOWNSEND WIKILEAKS DEBATE .::. Size~: 5.44 KBDec 28 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Browsing Sessions II: Extensions, Time of Day, Number of Sessions, and Session Length http://bit.ly/gExQdmDec 28 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @qu1j0t3 Which is why our western "democracies" have a lot of explaining to do... GO !WikiLeaks !cablegate RAH RAH!Dec 28 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Governo Russo vai adoptar software livre" http://tek.sapo.pt/noticias/computadores/governo_russo_vai_adoptar_software_livre_1116759.htmlDec 28 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Yes, but our problems were already documented, the Swedish ones weren't. See here: http://bit.ly/ezSqdCDec 28 18:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TeK > Notícias > Computadores > Governo Russo vai adoptar software livre .::. Size~: 42.05 KBDec 28 18:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Explanation Of My Views On Copyright Part Three | Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 41.02 KBDec 28 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Copyright Board grants interim tariff, but since so many schools have opted out, what will Access Copyright collect? http://bit.ly/a9tiT0Dec 28 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Ours may be "documented" but lack of media coverage means maybe 1% of Canadians are aware of it.Dec 28 18:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyright Board of Canada - Home (What's New) .::. Size~: 22.05 KBDec 28 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Government 2010 - Law.Gov -- opening up primary legal materials | http://bit.ly/937R9dDec 28 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back from looking at TVs again...Dec 28 18:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @fabsh to look at a TV no doubt, or does GT5 get a break tonight?Dec 28 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @schestowitz How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows http://bit.ly/h4bM5K "a) S$887.15 for the N-series; b) S$1045.79 for the same machine ...Dec 28 18:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 183.52 KBDec 28 18:48
DaemonFCI don't want a Dell period :)Dec 28 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram Mozilla inadvertently publishes thousands of user IDs http://is.gd/jEpIM #ahahaBAGADec 28 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows http://bit.ly/h4bM5K "a) S$887.15 for the N-series; b) S$1045.79 for the same machine ...Dec 28 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @mohanpram Ancient human remains found in Israel http://yhoo.it/hPdgOBDec 28 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla inadvertently publishes thousands of user IDs | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 73.86 KBDec 28 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to buy a Dell WITHOUT windows « life one degree north, one-o-three degrees east .::. Size~: 183.52 KBDec 28 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Researchers: Ancient human remains found in Israel - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 173.21 KBDec 28 18:51
DaemonFCespecially since I noticed their latest trick, take an XPS, halve the RAM, Windows 7 Home instead of Pro, and sell it for about the same price at Walmart under a "Rollback" bannerDec 28 18:52
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] AriOS: Light Interface And Heavy Application Base In A Ready To Use Ubuntu Remaster http://bit.ly/gJ7gDDDec 28 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decided to go ahead and build the sister project to the Gatekeepers to launch at the same timeDec 28 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] YouTube is being mean -- doesn't correctly display ogg files that I put on there. Maybe @thistleweb will know why.Dec 28 19:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/trashbird1240/status/19819497779105792Dec 28 19:02
TechrightsBot-tr@trashbird1240: @schestowitz: I merely thought it was funny, especially from Stroustrup: I know *nothing* about #c++Dec 28 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz never tried uploading to youtube, they say they accept ogv but I'm not so sureDec 28 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I do know there's a 15min limit per videoDec 28 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @robintcox: @schestowitz Do the US public realise they are being set up for an even worse train wreck than Vietnam or the Pentagon Papers?Dec 28 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb I find this to be a very frustrating experience, since like... forever.Dec 28 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #France Wants To Extend Private Copying Levy To Tablets... But Not If They Run MS Windows - http://bit.ly/gk5buE how witless can they go?Dec 28 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz I dunno, that's why I use vimeo and blipDec 28 19:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: France Wants To Extend Private Copying Levy To Tablets... But Not If They Run Microsoft Windows | Techdirt .::. Size~: 34.29 KBDec 28 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter "ass to mouth" the dirtier the act, the more money they get paid for itDec 28 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @jonobacon hey do you know the ppa for unity off the top of your head? the old une ppa doesn't have it anymoreDec 28 19:08
DaemonFCjono, Just install GNOME-Shell and take out about everything that worksDec 28 19:09
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 19:09
DaemonFCsame effectDec 28 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb thanks, I'll look aroundDec 28 19:10
DaemonFCUnity even manages to screw up even worse when you're using FGLRX than GNOME ShellDec 28 19:11
DaemonFCI don't know how they managed that, but the screen is so garbled I had to drop down to the FOSS driver to even play around with it for a few momentsDec 28 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @medriscoll @calixte Linus was born 42 years ago today, 3 days b4 the Unix epoch. When the machines take over, they'll call him Jesus.Dec 28 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tinyogg I'm attempting to convert this to ogg but it tells me there's something wrong : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4QoDec 28 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @marcusharrison 3 Things That !Ubuntu One Should Sync, That It Doesn't: http://wp.me/pXsQI-2DDec 28 19:11
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3 Things That Ubuntu One Should Sync, That It Doesn’t « Between Software and Unicycles .::. Size~: 27.47 KBDec 28 19:11
DaemonFCjono, I don't get why GNOME and Ubuntu are sending these mixed messagesDec 28 19:14
DaemonFCfirst they say they want to promote free software, so they put out desktop environments that only work right with Nvidia's proprietary driver and fail to work at all with ATI'sDec 28 19:14
DaemonFCI see a lot of people having to revert to gnome2 just because they don't have the magic setupDec 28 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] For some odd reason !Chromium seems to have lost the ability to playback !html5 audio and video. Does not work even after down/up grading :(Dec 28 19:25
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schestowitzGeezDec 28 19:27
schestowitzVideo is a PITADec 28 19:27
schestowitzEsp. trying to process/upload big lumps of itDec 28 19:27
schestowitzYouTube doesn't like 2000 pixel wide videos, eitherDec 28 19:28
schestowitzVery few video editors cope with it, except Firefox for OggDec 28 19:28
schestowitzSo it needs post-processingDec 28 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @tinyogg Use Miro converter - works great #miroDec 28 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Not witless. Microsoft spent a good bit of money lobbying for the exception. Monopoly, remember?Dec 28 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spam email sees sharp decline, but don’t celebrate just yet - http://bit.ly/elUfcF me too: seeing 25% less #spam than a few months agoDec 28 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Ensure a bright 2011 for the open web. Donate to #CC today http://bit.ly/9BUJjnDec 28 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] BBC's pseudo-journalism....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12080487 ; http://ur1.ca/2ozb1Dec 28 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - 'Six crimes a day' solved by CCTV, Met says .::. Size~: 57.27 KBDec 28 19:36
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ThistleWebschestowitz: thats why I use transmageddon and encode to mp4 with 264 and mp3Dec 28 19:39
ThistleWebit's also why I set my fps to 30 to record, transmageddon presets are hardcoded to 30Dec 28 19:39
DaemonFCsoftware licenses that are longer than the declaration of independenceDec 28 19:41
DaemonFCjust what the world needs more of :)Dec 28 19:41
MinceRyet another thing to be measured by its length: software licensesDec 28 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] One of @jhibbets Open*Life favorites of 2010: Acceleration for open source cars? | http://bit.ly/995LfTDec 28 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Printing Musical Instruments - http://bit.ly/gM3a1L what? you mean you don't do it this way? #3dprinters #fabbersDec 28 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Acceleration for open source cars? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 61.3 KBDec 28 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fabbaloo - Fabbaloo Blog - Printing Musical Instruments .::. Size~: 47.66 KBDec 28 19:41
DaemonFCMinceR, At a certain point of length, it's obvious that they don't want you to even know what it means or if you can comply with itDec 28 19:41
MinceRoversimplification as an alternative to thinking?Dec 28 19:42
DaemonFCit shouldn't take 20 pages to explain all the particularsDec 28 19:43
DaemonFCunless you're trying to confuse peopleDec 28 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter is that online or do i have to download miro?Dec 28 19:45
schestowitzThistleWeb: thanksDec 28 19:46
schestowitzI think I found a wayDec 28 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @laurelrusswurm I have no context here but miro is great to have anywayDec 28 19:46
schestowitzBasically, I'll use a frame that follows mouseDec 28 19:46
schestowitzI think video players hate to play very wide videosDec 28 19:47
schestowitzI'm trying to make some screencasts about octave, like you did with Mint ;-)Dec 28 19:47
schestowitzit's something I sort of promises in OctoberDec 28 19:47
gnufreexPJ warns people not to trust new "OpenSUSE Foundation" (if ti ever get founded) http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101228003140376Dec 28 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - I Figured Out What to Explain to You Next: Bylaws -- And a Word to the OpenSUSE Guys .::. Size~: 52.82 KBDec 28 19:47
ThistleWebI wonder if it's more about the resizing, it can do the width, but maybe it doesn't know the height, hence it freaks outDec 28 19:48
schestowitzBut now I'll have to start from scratchDec 28 19:49
schestowitzgnufreex: yeah, well... OpenSUSE has troubleDec 28 19:50
schestowitzI wrote so many times about this, the guys need to forkDec 28 19:50
gnufreexI think OpenSUSE became troubleDec 28 19:50
schestowitzThistleWeb: video players cope with smaller sizeDec 28 19:50
schestowitzgnufreex: I heard they can be used by Microsoft nowDec 28 19:50
schestowitzSomeone from India told me todayDec 28 19:51
schestowitzNo basis though]Dec 28 19:51
DaemonFCMageia sounds interesting, but what I want to know is if they'll actually diverge from Mandriva or just end up being a mirror of Cooker with an occasional release cut from thatDec 28 19:51
gnufreexWhy fork? Just move to Fedora.Dec 28 19:51
schestowitzThistleWeb: in YouTube the Oggs become all greenDec 28 19:51
schestowitzJust green framesDec 28 19:51
schestowitzNo idea as to whyDec 28 19:51
gnufreexschestowitz: Used by Microsfot ? How?Dec 28 19:51
ThistleWebschestowitz: yes if it has a way to work out the ratio, maybe it doesn't have the ratio marked right, so it doesn't know how high to make it, when the witdth changesDec 28 19:51
gnufreexI think they are already used upDec 28 19:51
DaemonFCtheir roadmap only goes as far as cutting a release from Cooker, which basically just gives you Mandriva with different artworkDec 28 19:51
ThistleWebI'm just guessing of courseDec 28 19:51
schestowitzMaybe I'll just host ogg in my own site and that's itDec 28 19:52
ThistleWebI do know I had no end of probs trying to figure out how to do my own screencasts, until I eventually found the magic sauce, set to 30 fps and use transmageddon to transcodeDec 28 19:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, Does OpenSuse actually possess anything important, unique, irreplaceable, desirable, or specific, that other distributions do not provide?Dec 28 19:52
schestowitzcan gtk-reordmydesktop output other formats, without ffmpeg?Dec 28 19:52
DaemonFCI doubt the world will be any worse off when they disappearDec 28 19:52
gnufreexDaemonFC: Yeah, MS intrusion vectorDec 28 19:53
ThistleWebdon't think so, it's hardcoded for ogv with ogg vorbisDec 28 19:53
DaemonFCI still want to know if AttachMate actually gets the right to continue Mono and friendsDec 28 19:54
schestowitzSod it, YouTube is being a waste of timeDec 28 19:54
DaemonFCthey haven't commented on that, maybe it doesn't transfer from Novell and MS scampers over to ink a new patent deal with AttachMate along the same lines?Dec 28 19:54
schestowitzIt just makes the videos all green, with sound OKDec 28 19:54
ThistleWebthe 15min limit was a deal breaker for meDec 28 19:54
schestowitzThen I think, what do I need it on YouTUbe for really?Dec 28 19:55
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npiYESEmBHQDec 28 19:55
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schestowitzFor some things I guess it's OK, but for tutorial I can host it myselfDec 28 19:55
schestowitzIs there anything to be gained really by putting it among a zillion YouTUbe videos?Dec 28 19:55
DaemonFCMono really isn't that impressive it seems, you have to rewrite huge chunks of your existing .NET app so it can run half as fast, and it's always missing features of .NETDec 28 19:56
DaemonFCI really can't see why Canonical is the latest to fap over thatDec 28 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FDL #Manning-#WikiLeaks Key Articles Table - http://bit.ly/eqqava piecing together the lamentable Lamo saga (v @WLLegal @ggreenwald)Dec 28 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 73 dents!Dec 28 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FDL Manning-WikiLeaks Key Articles Table |  FDL Action .::. Size~: 97.1 KBDec 28 19:56
MinceRperhaps shuttlecock has a backroom deal with sweatyDec 28 19:57
DaemonFCthey compromised the design of Banshee to make it easy to port over to Windows and then never ported itDec 28 19:57
DaemonFCdoes anyone else find that amusing?Dec 28 19:57
gnufreex[21:55:27] <DaemonFC> I really can't see why Canonical is the latest to fap over thatDec 28 19:58
gnufreexI think they want it as diferentiatiorDec 28 19:58
gnufreexSomething That Red Hat doesnt haveDec 28 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "If Vince Cable isn't impartial to make decisions about the #BSkyB takeover, neither is Jeremy Hunt" - http://bit.ly/eeMp5F pl. sign if possDec 28 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] guys, is there a way to *delete* (yes, delete!) contacts and sms from the SIM in !n900? n900 didn't set them, I only need to delete themDec 28 19:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Avaaz.org - The Murdoch media menace: full investigation now! .::. Size~: 24.17 KBDec 28 19:58
gnufreexThey know RH will never put it in their distroDec 28 19:58
DaemonFCdance with the devil and get burnedDec 28 19:58
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 19:58
gnufreexThey probably don't care.Dec 28 19:58
gnufreexJust dump USDec 28 19:59
gnufreexThey don't make any money there.Dec 28 19:59
DaemonFCit's not quite that simpleDec 28 19:59
DaemonFCand yes, they do have customers here :)Dec 28 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: 7 torrent clients worth trying in 2011 http://tinyurl.com/2wyk8ow !bittorrentDec 28 20:00
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gnufreexHow much customers? free users are not customers.Dec 28 20:00
DaemonFCCanonical is a scavenger, they produce little or nothing, their products are just an amalgamation of work from other companies and peopleDec 28 20:01
MinceRDaemonFC: about as amusing as how google designed chromeDec 28 20:01
MinceR(they designed it for winblows, only to have to port it to gnu/linux so they could make chrome os...)Dec 28 20:01
gnufreexDaemonFC: Yeah. Pretty much.Dec 28 20:01
DaemonFCthe reason they ren't making money is the same reason Oracle can't make money from their RHEL cloneDec 28 20:01
MinceRcanonical has customers?Dec 28 20:02
DaemonFCyeah, here and thereDec 28 20:02
gnufreexYeah. Nobody will pay for support to someone who can't provide credible support.Dec 28 20:02
DaemonFCoutfits that see cheap support contracts waved aroundDec 28 20:02
gnufreexThey need to make stuff to have expertise.Dec 28 20:02
DaemonFCand can't afford betterDec 28 20:02
gnufreexBetter hire Debian hacker than pay CanonicalDec 28 20:02
DaemonFCif they were making tons of money on support contracts, they wouldn't be dumpster diving for click pennies from a co-branded MP3 storeDec 28 20:03
DaemonFCI think that Mark Shuttleworth is going to lengths not to show how frustrated he is that he's not making moneyDec 28 20:05
DaemonFCthat he's still funding everything down to the paperclipsDec 28 20:05
MinceRand they wouldn't be supporting m$'s plan to doom the platform they supposedly built their business onDec 28 20:05
DaemonFCHe made a blog post the other day about Ubuntu planning to move to Wayland instead of X.org at some pointDec 28 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Overstretched Jakarta's future as Indonesia's capital is in doubt - http://bit.ly/hGc321 another tale from the future #indonesia #citiesDec 28 20:06
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DaemonFCThe problem with that is that the free drivers would have to improve to the point that actual users could use them, or the proprietary ones would have to be ported over, and I see about the same chance of eitherDec 28 20:07
DaemonFCI think X.org is around for a long timeDec 28 20:07
MinceRperhaps they can force those drivers to be improvedDec 28 20:07
MinceRand wayland to be improvedDec 28 20:07
MinceRotherwise i don't really careDec 28 20:07
gnufreexShuttleworth is going to completely discredit FLOSS bussines. Whe he fails, they will point at Canonical like they point at Sun now. Nevermind that none of those were FLOSS companies and that they never understood how FLOSS works.Dec 28 20:07
jonoheya DaemonFCDec 28 20:07
jonolong time no speak!Dec 28 20:07
jonohows things?Dec 28 20:07
DaemonFCI threw up some bacon recentlyDec 28 20:08
jonololDec 28 20:08
DaemonFCstomach flu, eggs were involved too thoughDec 28 20:08
jonoughDec 28 20:08
MinceRheresyDec 28 20:08
MinceRbacon is too good to throw upDec 28 20:08
DaemonFCwell, my stomach was kicking back water last wednesdayDec 28 20:08
MinceRgnufreex: perhaps that's the whole point, besides pushing monoDec 28 20:08
DaemonFCIt was awful :)Dec 28 20:08
gnufreexMinceR: Probably.Dec 28 20:09
jonoDaemonFC, so how are things in your world?Dec 28 20:09
jonohave a nice Xmas?Dec 28 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm You can get #miro from: http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/Dec 28 20:10
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DaemonFCI made my own cocktail of baking soda, aspirin, immodium, and ondansetron that was prescribed to my momDec 28 20:10
DaemonFCthen I took some unisom to put me out :DDec 28 20:10
jonololDec 28 20:10
DaemonFCbut I was better in time for Christmas, hooray!Dec 28 20:11
jono:)Dec 28 20:11
schestowitzjono: mind me uploading FLOSS Weekly with you and me in it?Dec 28 20:11
schestowitz[To YouTube]Dec 28 20:11
jonoschestowitz  I saw you putting it on YouTubeDec 28 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Sure I saw evidence. The attempt to exempt Windows OS tablets is proof. #evilbastardsDec 28 20:11
schestowitzOK, cause it was already up in some other site...Dec 28 20:11
jonoschestowitz you can do if you want, although I think that things have changed a lotDec 28 20:12
schestowitzIt takes a long time slicing and reencoding itDec 28 20:12
jono(in a really good way)Dec 28 20:12
jono:-)Dec 28 20:12
DaemonFCjono, For some reason I got coffee and cash, and a new percolatorDec 28 20:12
jonobut schestowitz, totally up to you :-)Dec 28 20:12
jonoDaemonFC, nice :)Dec 28 20:12
DaemonFCall and all I think I did well :DDec 28 20:12
jonoI got a beer fridgeDec 28 20:12
jonofor my man caveDec 28 20:12
schestowitzjono: view it as historicalDec 28 20:12
schestowitzjono: see what Groklaw says about NovellDec 28 20:12
jonoschestowitz if you are happy, so am I :)Dec 28 20:12
schestowitzCalls it "community rat" nowDec 28 20:12
schestowitzEven *I* did not use such wordingDec 28 20:13
jonorightDec 28 20:13
jonoschestowitz did you have a nice Christmas?Dec 28 20:13
DaemonFCfor some reason after using a percolator, I can't go back to drip, but the one I had was old and didn't have a keep warm, just burn your coffee after 10 minutes :DDec 28 20:13
schestowitzSo I think the show will be well received in a wayDec 28 20:13
schestowitzIn the sense that Novell is unpopular now anywayDec 28 20:13
*DaemonFC is enjoying warm coffee throughout the dayDec 28 20:13
jonoDaemonFC, have you seen those Keurig machinesDec 28 20:13
jonothey are pretty awesome tooDec 28 20:13
DaemonFCyeah, $150 for a one cup at a time thingDec 28 20:13
DaemonFCfrom coffee pods that make Starbucks look cheapDec 28 20:14
jonoyeah they are pretty expensive unfortunatelyDec 28 20:14
DaemonFC:DDec 28 20:14
jonololDec 28 20:14
DaemonFCI looked at them, and kept lookingDec 28 20:14
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 20:14
jonoman, when I first moved here we bought a $20 coffee makerDec 28 20:14
jonoit was awesomeDec 28 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Rather than Vince Cable or Jeremy Hunt, they should hire you to make the #BSkyB decision.Dec 28 20:15
DaemonFC"Oh, gee, a WHOLE 8 ounces? That ought to fill like HALF my mug! NEXT!"Dec 28 20:15
DaemonFCthe gist of that line of thoughtDec 28 20:15
schestowitzjono: one day you can look back at how you tried to defend Novell from proactive criticism ;-)Dec 28 20:15
DaemonFCjono is trying to get a job at Novell so he can have his 1 month tenure when they lay him offDec 28 20:16
DaemonFC;)Dec 28 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Blast Shack - http://bit.ly/gLIgVW I finally read it: full of wonderful bons mots, but ultimately defeated by its own verbal brillianceDec 28 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Not a circular argument. I've read a lot of the Comes documents on #Groklaw and this is how #Microsoft operates.Dec 28 20:16
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jonoschestowitz hehDec 28 20:18
DaemonFCjono really can't wait for Novell to get bumped offDec 28 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Now that #Novell is helping #Microsoft and #Groklaw calls Novell "community rat" defence of Novell is harder to justify http://bit.ly/h47lycDec 28 20:18
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DaemonFCThey still won't be #2, but they'll sure still feel like it :)Dec 28 20:18
jonololDec 28 20:18
gnufreexDaemonFC: lol. Canonical won't be #2 when Novell is no more?Dec 28 20:19
DaemonFCno, I'm sure there's other companies ahead of them that actually make a profitDec 28 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Poisoned Chalice. Good idea, I'll write one in #amwritingDec 28 20:20
gnufreexI meant in GNU/Linux.... oh wait, then don't make that. They make Ubutu.Dec 28 20:20
DaemonFClots of users doesn't mean anything when you're not even making a dollar off most of themDec 28 20:20
DaemonFCyou can have millions of users and go flat brokeDec 28 20:20
DaemonFCit's happened to Mandriva several timesDec 28 20:21
DaemonFCthe distros that survive are the ones that focus on corporate customers or the ones that only need to keep the lights onDec 28 20:21
DaemonFCso the Red Hat and Debian typesDec 28 20:21
gnufreexlol. Mandriva sure waits Canonical to go under.Dec 28 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody If there's one thing I've learned about #Microsoft it's that assuming the worst is your best case scenario.Dec 28 20:21
DaemonFCMandriva has been floating a hairs width over insolvency for nearly a decadeDec 28 20:22
DaemonFCthey squandered the profit they did have on ridiculous acquisitionsDec 28 20:23
sebsebsebCome on Mageia :)Dec 28 20:23
DaemonFCbad managementDec 28 20:23
gnufreexThey were getting a grip until SpaceBoy showed upDec 28 20:23
gnufreexThey were profitable in 2005Dec 28 20:23
sebsebsebanyway Mageia has a chance at maybe becoming number 2 next year, or number 3 after FedoraDec 28 20:23
DaemonFCyeah, I bought their PowerPack editions every year from 1998 to 2004Dec 28 20:24
DaemonFCthe last one ran me like $70Dec 28 20:24
DaemonFClots of reasons, one big one being stuck on dial up and two DVDs with the entire repo on them meant a lotDec 28 20:24
sebsebsebMandriva company certain issuesDec 28 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] New article on #Groklaw: I Figured Out What to Explain to You Next: Bylaws -- And a Word to the OpenSUSE Guys -Dec 28 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] New article on #Groklaw: I Figured Out What to Explain to You Next: Bylaws -- And a Word to the OpenSUSE Guys -http://bit.ly/h7GrsfDec 28 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. The only way to handle #microsoftDec 28 20:25
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sebsebseband Mageia is meant to solve a lot of that, and it will be yep 100% community distro :)Dec 28 20:25
sebsebsebhowever Mandriva will still be around as wellDec 28 20:25
sebsebsebas for them ever becoming the number one most used Desktop Linux distro, or number 2 or even number 3, quite unlikely I thinkDec 28 20:25
sebsebsebfor MandrivaDec 28 20:25
sebsebsebespesailly now that the release that just came out, was really just a bug fix on 2010.1 and how next year they will start to do only one release per yearDec 28 20:26
DaemonFCwell, the 2010.2 one wasn't really a new release, it was a remastered installation discDec 28 20:26
sebsebsebuhmm going to need at least two releases a year, or be a good stable user friendly rolling release, if going to have any proper chance at being able to give Ubuntu and Fedora, some nice competition :)Dec 28 20:26
DaemonFCyou could get the same thing with backports and updatesDec 28 20:26
sebsebsebexactly thats, basically what I saidDec 28 20:27
sebsebsebalso something odd about that one, I didn't just get the new backgrounds, and I instaled the package I was meant to, but then got other backgrounds, hmmDec 28 20:27
DaemonFCMandriva now says they're going back to 1 a yearDec 28 20:27
sebsebsebyesDec 28 20:27
DaemonFCso they're going to be badly outdated when you compare to the 6 month onesDec 28 20:27
sebsebseband they have said that for quite a whileDec 28 20:27
sebsebsebindeed and 2010.1 was quite out dated really when it came outDec 28 20:27
sebsebseband really for a lot of packages it would have been if they had released in April, and so yeah even more out dated in July when it came outDec 28 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @royhugo: and I'm sure you've got plenty of other problems to tackle too...Dec 28 20:28
DaemonFCwell, lots of things happen in 6 months, between Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10, the free ati driver decided to work with the DVI out on my cardDec 28 20:28
sebsebsebno it was meant to come out in May to begin with I think, then delayed to JUne or whatever, and then JulyDec 28 20:28
DaemonFCso I don't have to fish for the VGA cord to set the system up now :PDec 28 20:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: old doesn't neassirely mean bad, it can mean quite stable and good really, Debian Stable would be a kind of example of thisDec 28 20:29
sebsebsebhoweverDec 28 20:29
sebsebsebyeahDec 28 20:29
sebsebsebmost users want,  later packagesDec 28 20:29
sebsebsebnot stuff that is about a year old or moreDec 28 20:29
sebsebsebthat use Desktop LinuxDec 28 20:29
DaemonFCwell, if I have the latest drivers and the latest versions of the apps I use, I'm happyDec 28 20:29
DaemonFCI don't really care what version of what specifically, just as long as my stuff worksDec 28 20:29
sebsebsebI think come on other distros, I am sick of reading mainly only about Ubuntu, when it comes to Desktop LInuxDec 28 20:29
DaemonFCKubuntu is a lot betterDec 28 20:30
DaemonFCthey haven't sliced and diced KDE and thrown it in a blenderDec 28 20:30
DaemonFCthat's what their GNOME is nowDec 28 20:30
sebsebsebjono: uh I read an aritlce of yours not that long ago, a bit about,  the history of Gnome and KDE and such, and how like Desktop Linux wasn't really ready in 1998 for the mainstreame or whatever,  and then yeah a load about Ubuntu and Ayatana and so on,  shame you didn't mention other distros a bit in that one as well :)  after all many other distros were doing things with Gnome and KDE way before Ubuntu even existedDec 28 20:31
DaemonFCGNOME is really unheard of in the BSDs I noticed, it's out there but nobody wants to touch it, and if they do, they don't like admitting itDec 28 20:32
DaemonFCall you see over there is KDE reallyDec 28 20:32
sebsebsebDaemonFC: Kubuntu sucks really, so many other distros, that do KDE better, Mandriva,  OpenSuse, PC Linux OS, and sure Mageia when its made, for exampleDec 28 20:32
sebsebsebok so yeah when using offical stuff, Mandriva's KDE is old, but old and still good :DDec 28 20:33
DaemonFCMandriva is old, I hate OpenSuse, and PC Linux OS is x86-32 onlyDec 28 20:33
DaemonFCand Mageia doesn't really have something yetDec 28 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] mobile 802.11 - parole bracelet for the man in the street - http://bit.ly/hrTQgE fine & frightening post about your trackability (v @mpesce)Dec 28 20:33
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: also Mark doesn't really care about KUbuntu,  and they only get like two Canonical devsDec 28 20:33
DaemonFCyeah, the less the betterDec 28 20:33
sebsebsebDaemonFC: and loads of people complain about KUbuntu on the web and so onDec 28 20:33
DaemonFClook what they did to GNOMEDec 28 20:33
sebsebsebright, but KDE is differnet to GNomeDec 28 20:34
sebsebsebKDE is meant to be customised moreDec 28 20:34
sebsebsebthemes and so onDec 28 20:34
sebsebsebGnome 2 is meant to be left alone really,  but yeah Ubuntu started to mess it up insteadDec 28 20:34
sebsebsebtrying to go more main streameDec 28 20:34
DaemonFCyeah, everything Canonical did to GNOME was hacked on after the fact, by them, and it feels that way tooDec 28 20:34
sebsebsebyeah those changes are horribly implemented, most users have no ideaDec 28 20:34
gnufreex[22:28:56] <sebsebseb> I think come on other distros, I am sick of reading mainly only about Ubuntu, when it comes to Desktop LInuxDec 28 20:35
gnufreexOther distros don't even have marketing department, much less corporate blogers on news sites *cough Mac* cough iSay*Dec 28 20:35
sebsebsebplus the whole removing features that are meant to be there thing,  auto shut down after a minute, and shut down and log out in the system menu for exampleDec 28 20:35
DaemonFCAsay is historyDec 28 20:35
gnufreexYeah I knowDec 28 20:35
gnufreexBut he did damageDec 28 20:35
DaemonFCI bet they shoved him outDec 28 20:35
DaemonFCbut we'll never get that storyDec 28 20:35
sebsebsebDaemonFC: oh and the new 10.04 and then changed slightly for 10.10 suck really,  but most users like them,  I would rather have the old brown theme before 9.10 :)Dec 28 20:35
DaemonFChe did damage, but at least he's goneDec 28 20:36
DaemonFCit's like saying thank god they put out the fire before it killed anyoneDec 28 20:36
sebsebsebUnity is sort of interesting thoughDec 28 20:36
sebsebseb,becauseDec 28 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Law 2010 - iPhone jailbreaking decision is temporary relief | http://bit.ly/bLajUPDec 28 20:36
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DaemonFCall the damage he managed to do can be reversed if they want toDec 28 20:36
sebsebsebit makes some of those horribly implemented Gnome patchesDec 28 20:36
sebsebsebsort of okDec 28 20:37
gnufreexBut I think they don't wantDec 28 20:37
DaemonFCyeah, if they do it to their own desktop software I feel better about thatDec 28 20:37
sebsebsebgnufreex: money and hype yeah, and thats UbuntuDec 28 20:37
DaemonFCI don't like how they mutilated the standard GNOME desktopDec 28 20:37
sebsebsebgnufreex: people are used to using commerical stuff, so yeah its popularDec 28 20:37
sebsebsebsame thing for Facebook and so on, yep commerical, so popularDec 28 20:37
gnufreexNothing wrong with commetcial.Dec 28 20:38
gnufreexIdiotic is wrongDec 28 20:38
sebsebsebgnufreex: I would rather use open stuff :)Dec 28 20:38
sebsebsebidentica rather than TwitterDec 28 20:38
sebsebsebI mean in general :)Dec 28 20:38
gnufreexFree software is commercialDec 28 20:38
sebsebsebI would probably rather listen to open msuic really as well, but at the moment, I am mainly used to listening to propritaryDec 28 20:38
sebsebsebgnufreex: uh well I mean people are used to getting stuff from companies, that are about making moneyDec 28 20:39
sebsebsebnot from non profit organisations that are about making great software for exampleDec 28 20:39
sebsebsebor providing open softwareDec 28 20:39
DaemonFCeven non-profits need moneyDec 28 20:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yes, butDec 28 20:39
sebsebsebhasn't anyone else noticedDec 28 20:39
DaemonFCpaying the bills, feeding their families, etc.Dec 28 20:39
amarsh04irony can be how much more difficult it can be to track down local music recordings rather than what the companies try to sellDec 28 20:39
sebsebsebwhen something rys to go main strame more properly, it starts to suck?Dec 28 20:39
sebsebsebUbuntu 8.10 the last proper good releaseDec 28 20:40
gnufreexsebsebseb I think you are conflating commercial and propriatary.Dec 28 20:40
sebsebseb9.04 wasn't that bad, but thats where the Gnome patching began, and Ubuntu started going down hill reallyDec 28 20:40
gnufreexTwo different wordsDec 28 20:40
DaemonFCI liked 6.10Dec 28 20:40
DaemonFCafter that, the deterioration beganDec 28 20:40
sebsebsebas for 9.10, yeah there was xsplash which I found a bit lame and such, and certain people had issues with 9.10, and it was a sort of Vista release of Ubuntu at the time, but then yeah 10.04 came out, and suddenly 9.10 was better :DDec 28 20:41
DaemonFCI booted up an old hard disk the other day that had 6.10 on itDec 28 20:41
sebsebsebwell actsualely when 10.04 was in development, 9.10 became better reallyDec 28 20:41
DaemonFCit's actually more usable than 10.10Dec 28 20:41
sebsebsebanyone noticed that? how when it comes to the more recent releases, the latest version may not be as great as a previous?  ,but then then the next latest version comes out, and the previous version may be better?Dec 28 20:41
DaemonFCthey deleted all the repositories a while back though so I couldn't install anythingDec 28 20:41
DaemonFCotherwise I may have kept it and just updated things here and there to suit meDec 28 20:42
sebsebsebgnufreex: Ubuntu is a product, not a project, it is really about making money, but they will say its being used to spread free software to the massesDec 28 20:42
DaemonFCI had a Red Hat 9 system around forever, mostly cause of Fedora LegacyDec 28 20:42
DaemonFCmiss themDec 28 20:42
gnufreexsebsebseb: They should stop lying that it is about community then.Dec 28 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Alguém consegue descobrir quem é o filho da puta com o número 210 305 420? Recebi SPAM de voz da ZON no meu telemóvel deste número.Dec 28 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Mas a Zon está a alegar que não foram eles...Dec 28 20:43
gnufreexThey should stop branding their coroproate decisions as community ones.Dec 28 20:43
sebsebsebgnufreex: yeah the community uhmm, people who help in the community, end up helping a for profit company, I have done my fair share of thatDec 28 20:43
DaemonFCthe community decided that they wanted an expensive MP3 storeDec 28 20:44
sebsebsebI also see it as a product, hence why if I mention  Unity on identica, I make sure to put the Canonical name in it (plus of the group :D )Dec 28 20:44
gnufreexFirst thing that *community* does is remove Mono affter installing BuntuDec 28 20:44
DaemonFCand that they wanted a bloated nautilus plug-in that crashes all the time advertising a for-fee online storageDec 28 20:44
DaemonFCI voted YES ;?Dec 28 20:44
sebsebsebUnity is a product from CanonicalDec 28 20:44
sebsebseband people have to even accept their Copyright Assignments if contributing code to that, so yeah that confirms itDec 28 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @gusteru: Development Releases: FreeBSD 8.2-RC1, 7.4-RC1 http://bit.ly/gg9WjXDec 28 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Russia Moves to Linux In 2011 http://is.gd/jENOJ #gnu #linuxDec 28 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Xenode Blogger: Descargar Música de Grooveshark Gratis http://bit.ly/fSn95VDec 28 20:45
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sebsebsebplus that guy or two or so that is working on providing it for Fedora, have some difficult work to do, to be able to do that, since how Unity is doneDec 28 20:45
gnufreexBut they still iclude Mono. Because some Novell and MSFT evangelists wormed into "community" and attack everyone.Dec 28 20:45
sebsebsebits not just take the code from Ubuntu, and make a RPM for Fedora or somethingDec 28 20:45
gnufreexAnd probably because they need stick to beat other distros.Dec 28 20:45
gnufreexThat are trully free.Dec 28 20:46
sebsebsebalso as Stallman would basically say,  whats wrong with Ubuntu is they provide propritary software to usersDec 28 20:46
sebsebsebwell if its just a driver for Nivida and stuff like that, uhmm okDec 28 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @firefox: Firefox is the most popular browser in #Armenia! Way to go and thanks for spreading #Firefox http://mzl.la/hiOK6t #marketshareDec 28 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Isto seria uma violação do meu contracto e ainda por cima ilegal. Ao afirmar-lhes isto, alegam que não foram eles. Será sabotagem? Mentira?Dec 28 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: Daca inca n-ati descarcat playerul audio al Android 3.0 Honeycomb, o puteti face acum: http://mbls.ro/dUztN2Dec 28 20:46
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sebsebsebto be honest the providing propritary software for sale thing, doesn't bother me that much, but yeah its a bit hmmDec 28 20:46
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sebsebsebhowever got to do something like that really, if going to go main streame, since how people areDec 28 20:47
DaemonFCyeah, but every Linux distro that you can use is on their shitlistDec 28 20:47
DaemonFCbecause ytou can use your GPU and wifi\Dec 28 20:47
sebsebsebthe average users, doesn't mind buying propritary software, if its something they want,  or ok having it bought for them evenDec 28 20:47
DaemonFCit's good that there's a FOSS driver for ATI cards, it makes me less dependent on ATI in case they drop support on mine laterDec 28 20:48
DaemonFCother than that, I don't have a strong preferenceDec 28 20:48
gnufreex[22:45:38] <sebsebseb> well if its just a driver for Nivida and stuff like that, uhmm okDec 28 20:48
gnufreexit is not just driver. And if Canonical is really about Free Software, why not hire a Noveau hacker or two?Dec 28 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: Oracle extends open source VirtualBox 4.0 http://bit.ly/ic525S #linux #oracleDec 28 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: Allview dezvăluie printre altele existența unui nou tablet și a unui telefon dual SIM Android (img) http://mbls.ro/gwVZ6WDec 28 20:48
amarsh04I happily remove Acrobat and install Sumatra on ms-win machinesDec 28 20:48
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sebsebsebgnufreex: they aren't about free software properlyDec 28 20:48
DaemonFCAcrobat is bloated and full of seurity holesDec 28 20:48
DaemonFCthey have to patch the stupid thing every dayDec 28 20:48
sebsebsebgnufreex: they don't mind providing propritary software to peopleDec 28 20:49
sebsebsebbe that Nivida drivers and that kind of thing, or software for sale in the Ubuntu Software CentreDec 28 20:49
sebsebsebplus the backend of Ubuntu One isn't openDec 28 20:49
sebsebsebalso they don't mind selling propritary music to peopleDec 28 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @darkhole: I didn't know that my #Motorola #Milestone can do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLl32iNz-3o #AndroidDec 28 20:50
sebsebsebyep Ubuntu One Music StoreDec 28 20:50
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sebsebsebok technically their provider does that, but you know what I meanDec 28 20:50
sebsebsebgnufreex: there will be more commercilisation in the Ubuntu product itself, as time goes on I guessDec 28 20:51
sebsebsebgnufreex: they want money making services as part of itDec 28 20:51
sebsebseband they may even try to get people to use them more as well, as times goes onDec 28 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK..... Mythdora installation bombs out. Fail. Now installing stock F14...Dec 28 20:51
sebsebsebMoney and companies yeah, so many problems, in this world, as a result,  shame there aren't enough people that try and ch ange this though,  I mean changing stuff, so not having to rely on money so much and for profit companiesDec 28 20:53
gnufreexAgain, they (or you) conflate stuf. "Service" is not software, and it should not have anything to do with propriatary software. Comercicalization doesn't mean propriatarization.Dec 28 20:53
sebsebsebI mean take house prices or flat prices, the average person can't just afford one of those even, quite pathetic reallyDec 28 20:53
gnufreexWhat they do is propriataryization.Dec 28 20:53
sebsebseband food could be more cheap, and so onDec 28 20:53
sebsebsebgnufreex: propritaryisation ?Dec 28 20:54
gnufreexMaking propriatary stuff.... soft ofDec 28 20:54
sebsebsebgnufreex: what they do, is provide some stuff, that will make them money, and in the Ubuntu product itselfDec 28 20:54
gnufreex*sortDec 28 20:54
sebsebsebin the actsual Ubuntu product itself, and then try and get people to use itDec 28 20:55
sebsebsebrather than optionally, but for UbuntuDec 28 20:55
sebsebsebwith the user having to install the programs them selves, if wantingDec 28 20:55
sebsebsebor ok have someone install for them,  depending on the computer and all thatDec 28 20:55
gnufreexThat would be ok if that software is not advertised by the OS.Dec 28 20:56
sebsebsebgnufreex: DaemonFC anyway I think only a fool would trust Canonical or any commercial Linux distributor 100%, companies are kown after all to put money first really, and then mess things up at times as a resultDec 28 20:56
gnufreexFree OS should advertise Free Software, and never mention non-free one.Dec 28 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Following http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_Fedora now...Dec 28 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: #HTC #Desire Getting #Software #Update http://phandroid.com/2010/12/28/htc-desire-getting-software-update/Dec 28 20:56
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sebsebsebalso really opensource/freesoftware is meant to be about shari code, and users sharing the programs with each other and such :)Dec 28 20:57
sebsebsebfreedom :)Dec 28 20:57
DaemonFCright, the Ubuntu community is a shamDec 28 20:57
sebsebseband well thats exactly what happens with 100% community distros :)Dec 28 20:57
DaemonFCit gets pulled out as a sockpuppet when Canonical makes a unilateral decisionDec 28 20:57
sebsebsebDaemonFC: what do you mean by that?Dec 28 20:57
DaemonFCthe decision comes from Canonical, and then they make the community input go along with itDec 28 20:58
sebsebsebwhen it comes to software freedom, uhmm going from Windows or Mac OS X, to later versions of Ubuntu so i'll say since 10.04,  isn't really that good at allDec 28 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #France Wants To Extend Private Copying Levy To #Tablets... But Not If They Run MS #Windows - http://bit.ly/gk5buE how witless can they go?Dec 28 20:58
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DaemonFCbefore long it looks like everyone participated in the ideaDec 28 20:58
DaemonFCit's like inciting a riotDec 28 20:58
DaemonFCmaybe each individual would have made a difference choice, but they were coachedDec 28 20:59
sebsebsebUbuntu try and get people to buy propritary/closedsource/nonfree  stuff as well since 10.04 and in the product like I was saying, and propritary music as well,  and  so on.  so yeah if wanting freedom,  then 10.04 and 10.10 and so on won't be that greatDec 28 20:59
sebsebsebplus they target people who, will never give back, so hmmDec 28 20:59
sebsebseband people who, won't really understand what opensource/freesoftware and Desktop Linux is really about, so yeah software freedom, and being an alternative to Unix not Windows or Mac OS XDec 28 21:00
DaemonFCthey hire people to work on their own stuff, remember that things like Launchpad and Bazaar were proprietaryDec 28 21:00
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah and they got their design team and such, doing Unity and yeahDec 28 21:00
DaemonFCwhen they were shamed into open sourcing them, they still required copyright assignmentDec 28 21:00
DaemonFCso they're still hovering a chilling effect on contributorsDec 28 21:00
DaemonFCso it's still proprietary in that senseDec 28 21:01
sebsebsebif they want to be seen as more of a opensource/freesoftware companyDec 28 21:01
sebsebsebthen yeah, they need to sort this copyright assignments thing out, get rid of it evenDec 28 21:01
DaemonFCthe FSF projects all stall out and die for the same reasonDec 28 21:01
DaemonFCit's hard to attract contributors when it's "What's ours is ours and what's yours is ours"Dec 28 21:02
sebsebsebFSF has copyright assignments, but unlike Canonical we woudn't be a fool to basically trust them 100%Dec 28 21:02
sebsebseband heres whyDec 28 21:02
DaemonFCunless they're all your employeesDec 28 21:02
sebsebsebFSF started most of this kind of software really :)Dec 28 21:02
sebsebsebplusDec 28 21:02
sebsebsebyeah its The Free Software FOundationDec 28 21:02
gnufreexFSF copyright assingment is nothing like Canonical's sebsebsebDec 28 21:02
sebsebsebwho is more important than Canonical by a long way, when it comes to opensource/freesoftware :)Dec 28 21:02
sebsebseband they are a non profit organisation so don't have the issues that Canonical have, by using copyright assignmentsDec 28 21:02
gnufreexFSF promises never to make pripriatary versions. Canonical can sell out to anyone, like Sun did. sebsebsebDec 28 21:03
sebsebsebgnufreex: yeahDec 28 21:03
sebsebseband Mark sold a former companyDec 28 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Heh. F14 is installing. Of course.Dec 28 21:03
sebsebsebmaybe he'll sell Canonical eventually as wellDec 28 21:03
gnufreexeven if someone buys FSF (one way or another), the promise is still binding.Dec 28 21:03
DaemonFCjono, You know where I can get Koffice 2.3 beta without pulling in KDE 4.6?Dec 28 21:04
sebsebsebDaemonFC: gnufreex Thats also the goal of MageiaDec 28 21:04
sebsebsebtoDec 28 21:04
sebsebsebget away from these company type issuesDec 28 21:04
sebsebsebMandriva company had quite a few issues, and Mageia won't have, since they aren't commericalDec 28 21:04
DaemonFCa Mandriva based distro govered and ran like Debian would be greatDec 28 21:05
sebsebsebwell it will have a rolling release yes like Mandriva doesDec 28 21:05
sebsebseband it will do versionsDec 28 21:05
sebsebseband it has many of the former Mandriva employees who lost their job not that long ago, behind itDec 28 21:05
DaemonFCwhat would be nice is if they did a rolling release made out of known stable packages out of CookerDec 28 21:05
sebsebsebsince the new investoros or whateverDec 28 21:05
DaemonFCinstead of cutting stable releases now and thenDec 28 21:05
sebsebsebDaemonFC: as for a Mandriva based rolling release wellDec 28 21:06
sebsebsebthey say PC Linux OS is no longer a fork of Mandriva, something about its own base now, butDec 28 21:06
sebsebsebits very Mandriva like to meDec 28 21:06
DaemonFCusing Apt for RPM is retardedDec 28 21:06
gnufreex[23:00:40] <DaemonFC> the FSF projects all stall out and die for the same reasonDec 28 21:06
gnufreexFSF started shotload of projects, they dumped ones that someone else did better.  Nothing to do with CADec 28 21:06
sebsebsebhowever yep its a rolling release, has Synaptic with apt-rpm evenDec 28 21:06
DaemonFCit's probably the worst thing they could useDec 28 21:06
sebsebsebwhy do you think that?Dec 28 21:06
DaemonFCit's barely maintained, yum and urpmi have more featuresDec 28 21:07
DaemonFCamong othersDec 28 21:07
sebsebsebsomething that annoys me about PC Linux OSDec 28 21:07
sebsebsebno Gnome Shell in the repoDec 28 21:07
sebsebsebapprnatly its since they would have to update a load of stuff,  that then could brake other packages, or somethingDec 28 21:07
sebsebsebDaemonFC: also the other night in their channel, I mentioned Unity Linux,  which was started by some of the ex PC Linux OS developers,  and I nearly got kicked for itDec 28 21:08
DaemonFCif you're going to use Apt and Synaptic, why are you going to have an RPM distro behind it?Dec 28 21:08
DaemonFCThat makes no senseDec 28 21:08
sebsebsebSmart Packager Manager sucksDec 28 21:08
sebsebsebin my expereinceDec 28 21:08
DaemonFCyeah, PC Linux OS is perfectDec 28 21:08
DaemonFChow dare those bastards fork usDec 28 21:08
sebsebsebSynaptic on the other hand, is very niceDec 28 21:08
DaemonFChow dare you mention it!Dec 28 21:08
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 21:08
sebsebsebDaemonFC: apparnatly Unity Linux is a fork of Mandriva,  plus its not a real distro, its more like a distro builderDec 28 21:09
sebsebsebDaemonFC: quite a few distros based/ that use itDec 28 21:09
sebsebsebbased on it, or that use itDec 28 21:09
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: to me I see these distros as all part of the same family really, Mandriva, PC LInux OS,  Unity Linux, and Mageia when its madeDec 28 21:10
sebsebseb,but yeah this PCLOS dev that I ended up talking to disagreed or whateverDec 28 21:10
DaemonFCyeah, but they won't all be directly compatibleDec 28 21:10
DaemonFCit's a destructive splitDec 28 21:10
DaemonFCit's unfortunate when a fork is doneDec 28 21:10
sebsebsebdependsDec 28 21:11
sebsebsebforks can be very good, or bad, dependsDec 28 21:11
sebsebsebMageia fork should be a good fork :)Dec 28 21:11
sebsebsebPC Linux OS, well  they even were number one in 2007 when new instead of Ubuntu for a bitDec 28 21:11
gnufreexFork is good if everyone dumps old version and use forkDec 28 21:11
sebsebsebor something like that, but then things messed up,  developer died or whateverDec 28 21:11
gnufreexOTherwise, it is shades of badDec 28 21:11
sebsebsebno fork means choiceDec 28 21:11
sebsebsebcan use the old version or the forkDec 28 21:12
sebsebsebchoice is good :)Dec 28 21:12
gnufreexThere is tribal knowlage among projects.Dec 28 21:12
gnufreexOriginal developers knows more about tne codeDec 28 21:12
sebsebsebgnufreex: right, butDec 28 21:12
sebsebsebMageiaDec 28 21:12
sebsebsebis started byDec 28 21:12
gnufreexYou want original developers to work on forkDec 28 21:12
sebsebsebformer orignal Mandriva developersDec 28 21:12
gnufreexStill, it is a spit.Dec 28 21:12
sebsebsebquite a few of them, so oh yes, they will know about the codeDec 28 21:12
gnufreexIt didn't take all developers.Dec 28 21:12
sebsebsebMandriva has no chance at gaining a lot of users again I thinkDec 28 21:13
sebsebsebMageia will get a chance, so come on Mageia :)Dec 28 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Motorola EX115 http://is.gd/jETjKDec 28 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Motorola EX128 dual SIM http://is.gd/jETqU #motorolaDec 28 21:13
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*gnufreex goes outside. brbDec 28 21:13
sebsebsebexcept their first version is going to be re branded Mandriva 2010.1 with Libre Office, by the sounds of it, so hmm that would mean old KDE and Gnome, or maybe they will update Gnome and KDE a bit hmmDec 28 21:13
sebsebseband PC Linux OS had its chance at having a lot of users, but messed up I guess, and may not get a lot again, well whatever, choice is good :)Dec 28 21:14
DaemonFCby that time the packages will basically all be a year oldDec 28 21:14
sebsebsebmore Linux distros the better really,  or at least for those of us that know thatDec 28 21:14
DaemonFCthat wouldn't be good for a new distributionDec 28 21:14
sebsebsebyes for new people to Desktop Linux  its confusisng, which distro  to go for?Dec 28 21:14
sebsebsebaltough Ubuntu has sort of helped with that issue, by all its hypeDec 28 21:14
DaemonFCwell, the one with the new stuff is more likely to work on new hardwareDec 28 21:15
DaemonFCso booting up a year old distro on a new PC is going to be a disasterDec 28 21:15
sebsebsebsince then many go to Ubuntu,  not the distro I would like people to start with anymore, but still,  it has helped to solve the which distro, to go for, issueDec 28 21:15
sebsebsebthat newbies getDec 28 21:15
sebsebsebDaemonFC: well I got my brothers lap top to sort outDec 28 21:15
sebsebsebits oldDec 28 21:16
sebsebsebWindows needs re installing since an issue,  it seemsDec 28 21:16
sebsebseband yeah it will run a LInux distro, but it seems I will have to configure wireless :(Dec 28 21:16
sebsebsebso I was thinking PC LInux OS or Mandriva, but now I think Mandriva yeahDec 28 21:16
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sebsebsebat least with Mandriva I can turn auto updates on easilly, without having to use some stupid program for a startDec 28 21:17
sebsebseband there won't be as many of them as PCLinuOS, you know downloads being slow on wireless for exampleDec 28 21:17
DaemonFCthe new broadcom firmware as of late is niceDec 28 21:17
DaemonFCthe old binary blob cut in and outDec 28 21:17
DaemonFCand the signal meter was never rightDec 28 21:17
sebsebseblast time I tried to get a stupid wireless device working was in 2004 with Fedora Core 2Dec 28 21:18
sebsebsebwhen I was new to Desktop LinuxDec 28 21:18
DaemonFCnice to be able to step outside and have wifiDec 28 21:18
sebsebseband yeah I didn't get far with thatDec 28 21:18
schestowitz_Goblin: helloDec 28 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Updates....Dec 28 21:18
_Goblinschestowitz: hi!Dec 28 21:18
schestowitzI need to link your show notesDec 28 21:18
sebsebsebso hopefuly not that big of a problem to get it working on his lap top,  maybe i'll have to use Ndiswrapper for it thoughDec 28 21:18
_Goblintwo secs...I'll get it nowDec 28 21:18
DaemonFCthere hasn't been a Netgear device I've had that didn't have some problemDec 28 21:18
_Goblinhttp://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/techbytes-audiocast-%E2%80%93-episode-22-%E2%80%93-271210/Dec 28 21:18
sebsebseb,but well I got to re install Windows on there first, and then put Linux distro onDec 28 21:19
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sebsebseband I am thinking tonightDec 28 21:19
schestowitz_Goblin: also, I start doing some videos with mostly tutorials in themDec 28 21:19
DaemonFCthe USB stick I had laying around since 2004 still won't work with Linux, and the modem/router I have gives me DNS lookup failures, but only in WindowsDec 28 21:19
sebsebsebsince he will nag me at times untill its sorted, since he wants it sorted soonDec 28 21:19
schestowitzToday I test some waresDec 28 21:19
_Goblinschestowitz: ? Videocasts?Dec 28 21:19
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schestowitz_Goblin: I post these in Digg tooDec 28 21:21
schestowitzWe get good download numbers nowDec 28 21:21
_Goblinschestowitz: cool! I'll look forward to seeing them.Dec 28 21:21
schestowitzAnd it goes up over time - not pageviews to be counted, just downloadsDec 28 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !TechBytes Audiocast – Episode 22 – 27/12/10 http://bit.ly/gQzXHxDec 28 21:21
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schestowitzSince Sunday the ogg format (non-cached) was downloaded 2741 timesDec 28 21:22
schestowitzAnd it's holidayDec 28 21:22
schestowitz_Goblin: it takes practice, you too should make some, in ogg formatDec 28 21:22
schestowitzGoogle pisses me off, it doesn't absorb them wellDec 28 21:22
_GoblinIm looking at doing a HPR on 68k asm......its not suitable for TB since its a little off-topicDec 28 21:23
_Goblinsort of going back to the cracktro and warez eraDec 28 21:23
schestowitzWe can extend the show with videosDec 28 21:23
schestowitzBut no point in doing video for just a talk showDec 28 21:24
schestowitzMaybe for demosDec 28 21:24
schestowitzPeripheralDec 28 21:24
schestowitzWe have hosting/bandwidth spaceDec 28 21:24
schestowitzLink to OpenBytes added... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/28/first-year-for-techbytes/Dec 28 21:24
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schestowitzI've got to do so much work this weekDec 28 21:25
DaemonFChttp://it.slashdot.org/story/10/12/28/0610222/Mozilla-Posts-File-Containing-Registered-User-DataDec 28 21:25
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DaemonFChehDec 28 21:25
schestowitzVideos are something I need to do at the moment because I need to make tutorials for people who will use the program that I develop. Some whilst I upload the bn videos from FLOSS weekly (with Jono) to get experience with kdenlive I also start making some octave tutorials, I can now trace my mouse pointer for zooming, which is handy.Dec 28 21:26
schestowitzDaemonFC: of courseDec 28 21:26
schestowitzDaemonFC: please be polite to people here, including jonoDec 28 21:27
schestowitzI was pressured to ban you again, I try not toDec 28 21:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: what web browser are you using?Dec 28 21:27
DaemonFCFirefoxDec 28 21:28
schestowitzI've got to do 2 tasks in octave today, then do a report and blog post about it. I have some nice code to package soon... and it generated videos automatically... wish there was an irc channel discussing these topics, everyone here just uses E-mail.Dec 28 21:28
schestowitzDaemonFC: same hereDec 28 21:29
schestowitz4.0 will be a lot better, I hearDec 28 21:29
schestowitzDaemonFC: be polite to jonoDec 28 21:29
schestowitzOtherwise you give people fuel to characterise me badly...Dec 28 21:29
schestowitzLike jono did... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlXg-6_w-KoDec 28 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 7 - Are there really open source iPad alternatives? A follow-up. | http://bit.ly/bLKPSUDec 28 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Need a good audiobook(s) about !Qabalah Please give me some titles?Dec 28 21:33
DaemonFCI have Firefox 4 Beta 8Dec 28 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] «Let me make it clear, he's a shoe-fitter for republican presidency candidacy while I, OTOH, am a magnificent tipper» Nocky JohnsonDec 28 21:41
amarsh04Japan admits to 'scientific' whale meat being given to othersDec 28 21:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @glynmoody: mobile 802.11 - parole bracelet for the man in the street - http://bit.ly/hrTQgE fine & frightening post about your trackabiliDec 28 21:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Integrate Thunderbird In The Ubuntu Messaging Menu [PPA] http://bit.ly/g39SBADec 28 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] CloudSN (Cloud Services Notifications) Update Finally Brings Twitter OAuth Support http://bit.ly/hlyK00Dec 28 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Integrate Thunderbird In The Ubuntu Messaging Menu [PPA] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.57 KBDec 28 21:50
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DaemonFCI think something may be wrong with this weather plasmoidDec 28 21:53
*DaemonFC doubts it is -460 degrees F outDec 28 21:53
DaemonFCthe other one disagrees, says it's 28 :)Dec 28 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Watching korean music videos on my android mobile phone with youtube player.Dec 28 21:55
DaemonFCseeing as how the molecular activity in my body is continuing on, I think I'll go with 28Dec 28 21:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7603/snapshot1z.pngDec 28 22:05
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeDec 28 22:05
DaemonFCyes, it is a lot faster thanks to the opengl compositingDec 28 22:05
DaemonFCthat much is noticeable right offDec 28 22:05
DaemonFCSeamonkey nightlies have that tooDec 28 22:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "El Pais only news outlet still publishing daily WikiLeaks stories based on cables. Question for others: Why?" - http://bit.ly/hwGJfGDec 28 22:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Mozilla site exposed encrypted passwords (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/fIkCFQDec 28 22:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] BBC | From Chris "Apart from fouling Rio, assisting with his hand and giving it to an offside player, that goal was perfectly legit." !mufcDec 28 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BREAKING: Groupon Raising Up to $950 Million in Funding - http://on.mash.to/gghIcz insane; surely lots of fingers will get burnt hereDec 28 22:16
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schestowitzDaemonFC: lancelot!Dec 28 22:18
schestowitzI'm posting an improved video atmDec 28 22:18
schestowitz*improvisedDec 28 22:18
MinceRWell, now, uh, Launcelot, Galahad, and I, wait until nightfall, and then leap out of the rabbit, taking the French by surprise -- not only by surprise, but totally unarmed!Dec 28 22:19
amarsh04that reminds me, I have a dvd of monty python and the holy grail that I have yet to watchDec 28 22:20
MinceR:>Dec 28 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Education top 10 posts of 2010: No. 5 - Free Texts: Sources | http://bit.ly/eh97FfDec 28 22:21
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schestowitzDaemonFC: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/Dec 28 22:24
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schestowitzI'm trying to make some tutorialDec 28 22:24
schestowitzI suck at it so far and I refuse to practiseDec 28 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to afford a big sloppy genome - http://bit.ly/i7tVCm "mitochondria ... essential precursor to the evolution of multicellular complexity"Dec 28 22:25
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DaemonFCI'm more of a Don Quixote type myselfDec 28 22:25
DaemonFCtilting at windmills even :DDec 28 22:25
DaemonFCno, they're giantsDec 28 22:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, Kubuntu doesn't include Lancelot by default anymore, ou have to add itDec 28 22:27
*amarsh04 passes around the coconut shellsDec 28 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ubuntu tablet rumored for early 2011 launch - http://bit.ly/ez5gd5 quite tempting... #ubuntu #tabletsDec 28 22:28
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DaemonFCLancelot is much easier to use than the default menuDec 28 22:28
DaemonFCit should be the default menuDec 28 22:28
MinceRthey have a strange fixation on clickless interfaces, thoughDec 28 22:30
DaemonFCyou can click or not click, and still get resultsDec 28 22:31
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 22:31
schestowitzlancelot was never in kubuntu, was it?Dec 28 22:36
schestowitzIIRC though, it did have it on the CDDec 28 22:36
schestowitzand pre-included, so to speakDec 28 22:36
schestowitzHaven't checked if it's still inDec 28 22:37
DaemonFCyou have to install it nowDec 28 22:37
schestowitzI'm making tutorials very fast right nowDec 28 22:37
schestowitzNo notes, it's funDec 28 22:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: you closed your usteam acct.Dec 28 22:37
schestowitzAnd Twitter tooDec 28 22:37
schestowitzDeleted or disabled?Dec 28 22:37
DaemonFCdeletedDec 28 22:38
schestowitzI managed to make video more comrpessible at about 2 mb per minutes for audio+video in oggDec 28 22:39
schestowitz*per minuteDec 28 22:39
schestowitzIt's good enough for framerate that can serve a tutorialDec 28 22:40
DaemonFCwhy not just use VP8?Dec 28 22:40
DaemonFCChrome/Firefox/Opera support thatDec 28 22:40
DaemonFCmmmm, percolated french roastDec 28 22:42
*DaemonFC is getting a second windDec 28 22:42
schestowitzchrome also supports oggDec 28 22:47
schestowitzand webm is kind of google-ownedDec 28 22:47
MinceRit's free software, thoughDec 28 22:47
DaemonFCit's just as free as theoraDec 28 22:48
DaemonFCpermissive BSD licenseDec 28 22:48
MinceRand a patent licenseDec 28 22:48
DaemonFCyeah, that tooDec 28 22:48
DaemonFCso it's perfectly fineDec 28 22:48
schestowitzDoing tutorials is so easy and fun. I could spend hours on that...Dec 28 22:48
schestowitzMinceR: gtkecordmydesktop doesn't do webmDec 28 22:49
schestowitzand my version of ffmpeg doesn't have it supported, eitherDec 28 22:49
DaemonFCVLC has a desktop recording modeDec 28 22:49
schestowitzSo it's quick to just record, upload, linkDec 28 22:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: is it any good?Dec 28 22:49
schestowitzThistleWeb likes gtkrecordmydesktopDec 28 22:49
schestowitzWhich I first used last yearDec 28 22:49
DaemonFCI've only ever used it on Windows, but it dumps to WebM just fineDec 28 22:49
DaemonFCVLC also make a good webcam capture app and rips DVDs nicely :DDec 28 22:50
MinceRdoes it do uncompressed video/audio or MJPEG?Dec 28 22:51
MinceRif so, it could be transcoded after recordingDec 28 22:51
DaemonFCyou can do uncompressed, I've done that and dumped it to an avi container beforeDec 28 22:51
DaemonFCthere's some Ubuntu-sponsored project to dumb down VLC and port it to GTK+, it's really a sad sightDec 28 22:52
DaemonFCalmost everything unrelated to playback is goneDec 28 22:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jorge Castro: #Shotwell 0.8 is out. http://goo.gl/dR2DtDec 28 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shotwell .8 is out. .::. Size~: 7.19 KBDec 28 22:53
DaemonFCbecause why on Earth would you ever want to record your webcam, desktop, rip a disc, or transcode or stream?Dec 28 22:54
DaemonFCright? :DDec 28 22:54
MinceRindeedDec 28 22:54
DaemonFCI thought Xchat-GNOME was bad until I saw that thingDec 28 22:54
MinceRwhat happened, is there no mono-based video player?Dec 28 22:54
DaemonFCBanshee, complete with DVD support nowDec 28 22:54
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @ovidius Finally got an Android phone, too. First dent from it. <!mustardDec 28 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ♻ @ovidius Finally got an Android phone, too. First dent from it. mustardDec 28 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A security advisory http://lwn.net/Articles/421166/rssDec 28 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Government to Switch to Free Software by 2015 (Mashable) http://lwn.net/Articles/421168/rssDec 28 22:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A security advisory [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.71 KBDec 28 22:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Government to Switch to Free Software by 2015 (Mashable) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.6 KBDec 28 22:55
MinceRthen i don't know what the purpose of it is supposed to beDec 28 22:55
DaemonFCexpect that Rhythmbox and Totem will be MIA in 11.04Dec 28 22:55
DaemonFCI believe Pinta and Banshee are going to be in the spotlight next Ubuntu releaseDec 28 22:56
DaemonFCthey've been working behind the scenes to sponsor Pinta developmentDec 28 22:56
DaemonFCfor some time nowDec 28 22:56
MinceRif it's named after an STD, it must be greatDec 28 22:58
DaemonFCwell, as an image editor, it's not all that badDec 28 22:58
DaemonFCGimp still has more stuff and it's not based on MonoDec 28 22:58
DaemonFCbut it's obvious that they're not worried about marketing Ubuntu to rocket scientistsDec 28 22:59
DaemonFCso Pinta will be "good enough"Dec 28 22:59
MinceR:>Dec 28 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] MythTV is now scanning for channels. #dvbsbeingslowDec 28 23:00
DaemonFCit has a few more options in it than MS PaintDec 28 23:00
DaemonFC:DDec 28 23:00
MinceRthat might confuse the userDec 28 23:01
DaemonFCtrue, they'll have to pare it down to open and save with no options to edit it and only one supported format to save toDec 28 23:01
DaemonFCthen it'll be perfectDec 28 23:01
DaemonFCMark tested, jono approvedDec 28 23:02
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald NPR finally issues a correction for a repeatedly-made error by its reporters & guests about !WikiLeaks http://ur1.ca/2p0j3Dec 28 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Many Documents Has WikiLeaks Published? : NPR .::. Size~: 41.29 KBDec 28 23:03
DaemonFCMinceR, but you can still download themes for itDec 28 23:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ggreenwald NPR finally issues a correction for a repeatedly-made error by its reporters & guests about WikiLeaks: http://is.gd/jFcQXDec 28 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Many Documents Has WikiLeaks Published? : NPR .::. Size~: 41.29 KBDec 28 23:05
schestowitzAnother new one: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/28/qtoctave-video/Dec 28 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Overview of QtOctave in GNU/Linux .::. Size~: 33.18 KBDec 28 23:09
schestowitzUploding the nex oneDec 28 23:09
schestowitz*oaDec 28 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @ruiseabra I don't think the most critical loss of freedom comes from licensing, but rather from technical measuresDec 28 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @ruiseabra like, if you don't have sources, or get tivoized software, you lose without due process, appeal, etcDec 28 23:10
DaemonFCI need to grind that coffee a bit more coarsely next timeDec 28 23:14
DaemonFCI just got a mouth full of grounds :PDec 28 23:14
DaemonFCwhich I for some reason decided to swallow :/Dec 28 23:14
schestowitzDaemonFC: how do you make you window decros tarnslucent?Dec 28 23:21
schestowitz4.5 option?Dec 28 23:21
DaemonFCit's a workspace themeDec 28 23:21
schestowitz*decors *trans*Dec 28 23:21
DaemonFCoh, decorations themeDec 28 23:22
DaemonFCyeahDec 28 23:22
schestowitzthere's one to make windows also translucentDec 28 23:22
schestowitzBut it's imperimental in 4.5Dec 28 23:22
DaemonFCclick get new themes and there's a bunch of themDec 28 23:22
schestowitzI have  4.4 on this PCDec 28 23:22
schestowitz4.5 I only have at the officeDec 28 23:22
DaemonFCI just think it looks futuristic or something :)Dec 28 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glaad: Anti-LGBT Ugandan Pastor Martin Ssempa Charged With Blackmail http://bit.ly/fKYWcy #LGBTDec 28 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anti-LGBT Ugandan Pastor Martin Ssempa Charged With Blackmail  |  GLAADBlog.org .::. Size~: 28.45 KBDec 28 23:23
DaemonFCthat's one of my biggest gripes about Windows, the customization ends at what color you wantDec 28 23:23
DaemonFCfor some reason or another they make you crack the theming engine if you want more than thatDec 28 23:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, I tried 4.6 RC brieflyDec 28 23:25
DaemonFCit performs better but too many things were broken due to Kubuntu's customizationsDec 28 23:25
DaemonFCthey'll probably get that worked out though, if not it'll be easy to ppa-purge it againDec 28 23:26
DaemonFCso I decided to jsut enable backports and go to 4.5.4 instead until 4.6 is officialDec 28 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] The title if this movie sounds promising... ;-) Source Code (2011) http://imdb.com/title/tt0945513Dec 28 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @neilhimself: Off 2 photograph a former ballerina who wants 2 pose by my lamppost. Who knew "I have a lamppost" was a way 2 meet girls?Dec 28 23:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Source Code (2011) - IMDb .::. Size~: 85.99 KBDec 28 23:26
schestowitzI saw a youtube vid from kubuntu 11.04 with 4.6Dec 28 23:27
DaemonFCKWin is quite a bit smootherDec 28 23:28
DaemonFCI can't use 11.04, Catalyst doesn't support that kernel or that X.org version yetDec 28 23:29
DaemonFCCatalyst doesn't tend to catch up with Ubuntu until the 3rd or 4th alphaDec 28 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva I try to give as much of my time and attention as possible to those doing Free. And to promote them.Dec 28 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osvaldo/@osvaldo] !Wikileaks Mirror Taken Down: Host Buckles Under Demands from Upstream Provider #eff http://goo.gl/7IpHJDec 28 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Mirror Taken Down: Host Buckles Under Demands from Upstream Provider | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.18 KBDec 28 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @pmoharper: RT @dougdela: @pmoharper Admire your balance...deporting a Mexican Lesbian 2 face life threats at home 2 make room for Aung.Dec 28 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jayrosen_nyu Sometimes people ask me to define "citizen journalism." But it might be better 2 point to it in action: http://ur1.ca/2p12aDec 28 23:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks-Lamo-Manning Transcription Roundup: What We Still Need |  FDL Action .::. Size~: 45.96 KBDec 28 23:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kinect Hacked to Play Full-Body World of #Warcraft - http://rww.to/h8sHKy there's no stopping this stuffDec 28 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Kinect Hacked to Play Full-Body World of Warcraft  .::. Size~: 49.29 KBDec 28 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Video: Scrap the law on #Sedition http://bit.ly/fXhs7v # Binayak SenDec 28 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Video: Scrap the law on Sedition http://bit.ly/fXhs7v # Binayak SenDec 28 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody #Ubuntu #Tablet could be a game changer. Open is attractive.Dec 28 23:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video: Scrap the law on Sedition | Free Binayak Sen Campaign .::. Size~: 52.35 KBDec 28 23:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Video: Scrap the law on Sedition | Free Binayak Sen Campaign .::. Size~: 52.35 KBDec 28 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz ideally everyone should do that. but that doesn't preclude say reading/watching/listening to non-Free news reports, does it?Dec 28 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Playstation Move is Outselling Kinect http://tinyurl.com/33sk9m2 !ps3 !move !kinect !microsoft !sony !mvp !mvpbuzz !playstationDec 28 23:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Playstation Move is Outselling Kinect | PS3 Informer .::. Size~: 27.17 KBDec 28 23:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @lxoliva yes, that too.Dec 28 23:50
schestowitzMinceR: http://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/18112724764467201Dec 28 23:50
TechrightsBot-tr@FFII: Who has a copy of the planned Hungarian media law? Don't believe, check the source.Dec 28 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter That is what I am waiting for to complete the device lineup.Dec 28 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Did you hear about #Kinect #Sex? Bet that will sell like hotcakes, as long as players are allowed to use sexy bodies...Dec 28 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @themadhatter or meego tablet, decisions decisions.Dec 28 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody #Ubuntu if they do it right. #Android is another attempt at lockin to max profits. If both equal IPad for interface Ubuntu wins.Dec 28 23:55
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/18110126581874688Dec 28 23:56
TechrightsBot-tr@FFII: @homembit Code it the justification of de IcazaDec 28 23:56
schestowitzLMAODec 28 23:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/18413112034074624Dec 28 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @Enderle Thanks for the tweet! Yes, 'tis the litigation season...Dec 28 23:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/statuses/18414117098360832Dec 28 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr@FOSSpatents: @Enderle Thanks once more -- and have a Happy Holiday Season!Dec 28 23:57
schestowitzNow he collaborates with EnderleDec 28 23:57
schestowitzamarsh04: let PJ knowDec 28 23:57
schestowitzEnderle+Florian= <3Dec 28 23:57
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/FFII/statuses/18623709401055232Dec 28 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr@FFII: Ask colleagues who followed the process from the beginning, guess it was the "info days" RT @fosspatents You just say "stakeholder day".Dec 28 23:59

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