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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Anyone in !Belgium want to test #BeTrains for !n900? .deb file: http://goo.gl/60TVS http://goo.gl/60TVS.qr - #iRailNov 30 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz So the United States Government is unilaterally staking claim to ownership/control of the Internet? !Bad http://ur1.ca/2gpv3Nov 30 00:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] #TheImpressionsShow impressions are very good (usually), but the writing is pretty bad mostlyNov 30 00:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @schwarzprod LOL: http://www.linux.fm/ broadcasting the linux kernel !lo /via @nilsgeylenNov 30 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I suspect they did it on purpose as a test case. It isn't the kind of thing you could do accidentally.Nov 30 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] That's interesting, #google have a special logo for St Andrews dayNov 30 00:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: @koolhead17 But I am going to install Debian permanently, I cannot ship Ubuntu on my ELPA laptops, so... http://bit.ly/gETok3Nov 30 00:15
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ThistleWeb_Goblin: http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-launched-my-kind-of-phone-website/Nov 30 00:16
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_Goblinthistleweb:You've just reminded me...Ive missed a link on my shownotesNov 30 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc3-git7 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernelNov 30 00:20
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_GoblinThistleWeb: Quote (from your link) "Windows phone 7 world" - Ive just soiled my trousers....a Windows Phone 7 world....what a horrible thought.Nov 30 00:20
ThistleWeblolNov 30 00:20
ThistleWebI note the "windows 7 phone uk users group"Nov 30 00:20
ThistleWebeven that link is for a site about "wp7 power users" exactly how much "power user" tasks could you do with a phone that's missing so many basic featuresNov 30 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Is it me or is Tusk by Fleetwood Mac heavily inspired by the Ewok song from Star Wars?Nov 30 00:31
_Goblinschestowitz: ThistleWeb  we should cover this in the next ep....I'd love to make a comeback at this chap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-wF16JbR3o&feature=youtu.beNov 30 00:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] I'm not a big fan of #wikileaks, but, as the #TSA tells us, if you're not doing something wrong, you shouldn't fear exposure. #cablegateNov 30 00:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stevenrosenberg/@stevenrosenberg] Ina Fried goes from CNET to WSJ's All Things Digital http://ht.ly/1adLRqNov 30 00:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Want to test Natty with Unity safely on a USB stick? Here's how: http://is.gd/hY2FP #ubuntu #unity #locoteamsNov 30 00:43
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ThistleWebcould doNov 30 00:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] now we finally get to #existentialism. my fav topic in #philosophyNov 30 00:51
oiaohm_Goblin: Its funny watching lot of people speek on package management who don't understand the difference.Nov 30 00:53
_Goblinits great stuffNov 30 00:53
_Goblintheres so much materialNov 30 00:53
_Goblinmy favorite bit:Nov 30 00:53
oiaohmRPM and DEBIAN packages have techically advantages over it.Nov 30 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] O quê aconteceu com o BT Junkie ???Nov 30 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] What happened to BT Junkie ???Nov 30 00:53
oiaohmover each other.Nov 30 00:53
_Goblin"...I have helped convert hundreds of people to Linux, I could easily make them go back to Windows.....So Linux community that hates me, you better drop it and start loving me and realise the error of your own ways."Nov 30 00:53
_GoblinlolNov 30 00:53
oiaohmInfact RPM5 include both support for Deb and Rpm packages.Nov 30 00:53
_Goblinoiaohm: I hope youre not hating on him....he'll convert all those people back to Windows!!!! ;)Nov 30 00:54
oiaohmAny ideas what the major difference between RPM and DebNov 30 00:54
oiaohmRPM suits kickstart style installing with config profiles dumped on the end.Nov 30 00:54
oiaohmDEB is design to lead you to configuration tools.Nov 30 00:55
oiaohmBasically both suxs.Nov 30 00:55
oiaohmAnd neither is nice for building from source.Nov 30 00:56
ThistleWebdid you get to the part about him being gay?Nov 30 00:58
ThistleWebhomophobia happens in all groups sadlyNov 30 00:59
_Goblinyep that was the most insulting bit....Nov 30 00:59
ThistleWebbut yeah it does sound like he's tried the LAS flamebait approach some times and doesn't like the blowbackNov 30 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Thanks for who voted in the !fedora elections. I am very pleased with the representatives for FAmSCo.Nov 30 01:00
oiaohmHe also proves he is a Gnome/Ubuntu user.  _GoblinNov 30 01:00
_GoblinIve challenged the homophobic behaviour of WIndows advocates/users for years but I would never say that a vast majority of Windows users were homophobic...because they are not.Nov 30 01:00
oiaohmI have had speach support working under KDE for ages without hickups.Nov 30 01:00
ThistleWebhe has a few points, but mostly it comes across as a disgruntled blokeNov 30 01:00
_Goblinhas anyone actually heard of OSGUI before?Nov 30 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @jonobacon well, I guess I know what I'll be doing when I get home from work.Nov 30 01:01
oiaohmHeard of him before.  _GoblinNov 30 01:02
oiaohmBut the simple fact here.  Most of the people he says hate him are not really the Linux community.Nov 30 01:02
ThistleWebI'm guessing his site has one article spread over like 5 pages, with adverts everywhere and peeps complainedNov 30 01:03
oiaohmLarge percentage of the Linux world in comerical.Nov 30 01:03
oiaohmI find OSGUI guy is double standard.Nov 30 01:03
ThistleWeb"ossgui - copyright Microsoft Corp 2008"Nov 30 01:03
ThistleWebroflNov 30 01:04
oiaohmNumber one he complains about redhat going comerical with Linux.Nov 30 01:04
_Goblinlol...Nov 30 01:04
ThistleWebjus' kiddin'Nov 30 01:04
_Goblinwe have to get this guy on TechbytesNov 30 01:04
oiaohmYet then later starts that is exactly what he wants todo.Nov 30 01:04
ThistleWebI'm guessing by hi accent and a background of summer by the water, he's in AusNov 30 01:04
oiaohmI have never seen OSGUI do a truely netural report.Nov 30 01:05
_GoblinI have never seen OSGUINov 30 01:05
ThistleWebhe does seem verey amatuer in the way the cuts are madeNov 30 01:05
ThistleWebwith his notes tooNov 30 01:05
_GoblinI think immature is more accurate!Nov 30 01:05
ThistleWebif he at least did 1 point in one takeNov 30 01:06
_Goblinand why is he dancing around the screen...was he on fire?Nov 30 01:06
oiaohmEverything he talked about the Linux world is trying to deal with.Nov 30 01:07
ThistleWeba MS AUS employee was offscreen with his free Kin dangling on a fishing pole, the more digs he slips in the closer the Kin gets to him to be able to grabNov 30 01:07
_GoblinIve no issue with his problems with Linux....Im sure there is a list of complaints everyone has with any OS...Nov 30 01:07
oiaohmThis is the thing is bad reporting _GoblinNov 30 01:07
_GoblinOnly a Kin?  What will they catch with that? You can't give em away!Nov 30 01:07
oiaohmYes you find 6 things that are defects.   Balanced reporting goes to see if there are any attempts to fix it.Nov 30 01:08
oiaohmAnd report on the progress of those attempts.Nov 30 01:08
oiaohmOr lack there off.Nov 30 01:08
oiaohmThe QA issue there is a real lack there of.Nov 30 01:08
_GoblinI might ask him to go back to Windows.....at least his next rant won't be associated with Linux.Nov 30 01:08
oiaohmIt is something the spot light on where maintainers don't do there job.Nov 30 01:09
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oiaohmThe video issue is truly targeted to be fixed by dri2 and wayland.Nov 30 01:09
oiaohmBut the major issue here is that closed source video drivers have not come on board.Nov 30 01:09
oiaohmYes blanced reporting.Nov 30 01:10
oiaohmsound issue funny enough mostly has nothing todo with sound servers.Nov 30 01:10
oiaohmBut Linux's current weak real-time support.Nov 30 01:10
oiaohmFor audio streams.Nov 30 01:11
oiaohmBasically he could have made quite a well balance report showing the road blocks applying presure to go forwardsNov 30 01:11
oiaohmBut instead he trolled.Nov 30 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Looking for a social bookmarking service without unfair terms of use -- is del.icio.us still the closest we can get?Nov 30 01:11
_GoblinIs there any truth in what he alleges about TWIL?Nov 30 01:12
oiaohmTWIL?  Long form pleaseNov 30 01:12
_GoblinThis week in LinuxNov 30 01:12
ThistleWebheard of it but nothing moreNov 30 01:12
_Goblinhe claims someone from there attacked him for being gay.Nov 30 01:13
_GoblinPersonally I can't believe that so Im trying to find the piece he is referring to,,Nov 30 01:13
ThistleWebthat is likely in any community, nothing more or less in linuxNov 30 01:13
ThistleWebany responsible community should be trying to deal with that type of behaviourNov 30 01:14
_Goblinyep....Nov 30 01:14
ThistleWebsame with the old school trolls who expect you to be an expert of a windows userNov 30 01:14
ThistleWebor*Nov 30 01:14
oiaohmYou don't deal with trolls by becoming one yourself and making more.Nov 30 01:14
oiaohmThis is one of the problems in the open source world.Nov 30 01:14
_Goblinjust because I use Linux, doesn't mean I hate Windows users...on the contrary, with a little piri piri sauce and slow roasted, they are delicious!Nov 30 01:14
oiaohmWe are too excepting on personal bias complaints.Nov 30 01:15
oiaohmWe see it both ways.Nov 30 01:15
ThistleWebthe screencasting part is kinda valid, unless you do some homeworkNov 30 01:15
ThistleWebif you do, it invalidates itNov 30 01:16
ThistleWebhaving said that, you shouldn't have to jump through thoseNov 30 01:16
oiaohmReports Ubuntu is perfect or Windows is perfect.  Any true review of a OS should find defects.Nov 30 01:16
oiaohmNow also the reverse is true.Nov 30 01:16
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oiaohmA report should not be just defects.Nov 30 01:16
oiaohmThere should be something postive.Nov 30 01:16
*ThistleWeb is gonna do a "how I record my screencasts" screencast......how meta lolNov 30 01:17
oiaohmYes I hate Windows 7 mobile but even I can see that the large icon layout they did has some pratical sence for people with poor vision.Nov 30 01:17
ThistleWebI tell ya, there's an unserved market with monet to spend, and WP7 may just hit it by accidentNov 30 01:18
_Goblinstandby....update.....Nov 30 01:18
ThistleWebolder people who want a visual phoneNov 30 01:18
_Goblinit appears hes happy again in the latest videoNov 30 01:18
_Goblinall is forgivenNov 30 01:18
oiaohmExactly ThistleWebNov 30 01:18
ThistleWebeveryone else aims for the young tredny marketNov 30 01:18
ThistleWebtrendy*Nov 30 01:18
ThistleWebwith lots of features, smaller icons etcNov 30 01:18
oiaohmNow of course Linux world could release a version to cover the that zone.Nov 30 01:19
oiaohmSee the difference of a true review.Nov 30 01:19
ThistleWebsurely an android skin would workNov 30 01:19
ThistleWebbut that's kinda on the carrier levelNov 30 01:19
oiaohmIf someone cannot find a positive they really have not looked far.Nov 30 01:19
ThistleWebor turned the battery on it's assNov 30 01:20
oiaohmEven the media card lock in of windows 7 is a possitve and a negitive.Nov 30 01:20
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ThistleWebyeah I can see the point of it, even using microSD is a cheap manufacturing thingNov 30 01:20
oiaohmIe your a company that does not want you company data simple to remove from phones.  What windows 7 did might be a selling point.Nov 30 01:20
ThistleWebunfortunatly people associate sd cards as "removable"Nov 30 01:21
ThistleWebwell, unfortunatly for MSNov 30 01:21
oiaohmNow if you are a company who wanted to recover data from crashed phones what Windows 7 moble did is a complete pain in ass.Nov 30 01:21
ThistleWebmaybe if it was under a screwed in partNov 30 01:21
oiaohmYes 2 different markets.Nov 30 01:21
oiaohmAndroid might take from this hmm lets provide a company encrypted microSD option.Nov 30 01:22
oiaohmWith the company having the master key.Nov 30 01:22
oiaohmSo they get the best of both worlds.Nov 30 01:22
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oiaohmYes even MS short cuts can sometime expose ideas.  ThistleWebNov 30 01:23
oiaohmThe problem is when you place the 100 percent negitive or the 100 percent postive you miss important things.Nov 30 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] feds consider disabling cell phones in cars, apparently. meanwhile, in MA it's perfectly legal to jibber jabber and drive. (just no txt)Nov 30 01:23
ThistleWebthe part I think they did screw up on, is making it unreadable, and unformatable afterwardsNov 30 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] s/go/got/Nov 30 01:25
ThistleWebdid you hear endgadget on it?Nov 30 01:25
ThistleWebone of those guys went off on a whole rant about the fact that it couldn't be formatted or even seen on any other deviceNov 30 01:26
oiaohmTo be correct that is not tree.Nov 30 01:26
oiaohmtrueNov 30 01:26
oiaohmLinux systems can see its existance but cannot read it.Nov 30 01:27
ThistleWebkNov 30 01:27
oiaohmWindows mobile 7 is using CPPM of the memory card spec.Nov 30 01:31
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oiaohmYes a from of DRM.Nov 30 01:31
oiaohmThat does not stop the device from being detected.Nov 30 01:32
oiaohmIf an SD card is inserted into a Windows Phone 7, it "locks the card to the phone with an automatically generated key" so that "the SD card cannot be read by another phone, device, or PC"  << Notice this.Nov 30 01:32
oiaohmYes the SD card in a windows phone 7 card cannot be inserted into another Windows phone 7 and work either.Nov 30 01:33
ThistleWebit should be able to be reformatted at the very leastNov 30 01:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[hazzy/@hazzy] Tell Congress: Don't extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy! Sign the petition here http://is.gd/hY8dUNov 30 01:33
oiaohmYes it can be but not by windows.Nov 30 01:33
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oiaohmor mac osNov 30 01:33
oiaohmor normal Linux commands.Nov 30 01:33
oiaohmYou have to treat it like a Corrupted SD card.  ThistleWebNov 30 01:35
oiaohmThat leads to destruction of all data on it.Nov 30 01:36
ThistleWebahhNov 30 01:36
Ender2070so what are you going to do with a corrupted SD card, when you're starving to deathNov 30 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: 60% of businesses could dump Windows for Chrome OS http://tinyurl.com/2elxleb !google !windows !microsoft !mvp !mvpbuzzNov 30 01:36
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oiaohmSo the claim that you cannot format is false.  ThistleWebNov 30 01:37
oiaohmBut the important claim that you cannot recover your data if your phone dies is true.Nov 30 01:38
oiaohmAt this stageNov 30 01:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Search strategies: Ticketmaster Unfazed By Odd Band Names (CIO): http://bit.ly/fW2vIANov 30 01:38
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oiaohmMaybe it will come like ATA passwords ThistleWebNov 30 01:38
oiaohmComplete point lessNov 30 01:38
Ender2070UN in Cancun - Food rationing for the west, forced relocation of people into working zonesNov 30 01:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] RT @openbytes LINK: 60% of businesses could dump Windows for Chrome OS http://tinyurl.com/2elxleb !google !windows !microsoft !mvp !mvpbuzzNov 30 01:40
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oiaohmI have a interesting item to try.  ThistleWeb not all SD card support CPPM.  Wonder what windows phone 7 does when given one.Nov 30 01:48
oiaohmThat does not support CPPMNov 30 01:48
oiaohmWonder if it locks up dead?Nov 30 01:49
ThistleWebmay just not work at allNov 30 01:49
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oiaohmThis is microsoftNov 30 01:49
oiaohmMust use MS approved parts.Nov 30 01:49
oiaohmNormally equals scary bug hidden.Nov 30 01:49
oiaohmQuestion is how bad.Nov 30 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: ELPA to launch its first Linux Laptop http://blog.elpacorp.com/2010/11/elpa-to-launch-its-first-linu... http://bit.ly/fdDkxDNov 30 02:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] day 29 so far... wordcount 57094 !nanowrimoNov 30 02:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel next-20101130 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernelNov 30 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] US says leaks are a crime, threatens prosecution http://yhoo.it/fFYfBVNov 30 02:28
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cubezzzdefeated by plan 9Nov 30 02:31
cubezzzlooks interesting thoughNov 30 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Amusingly #mutter is a lot smoother now since #Unity decided to dump it for #compizNov 30 02:31
cubezzzdefeated by Haiku too, on this other boxNov 30 02:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Can't believe how restrictive 140 chars is. I am certain the sweet spot is 280-300 chars. #280charsNov 30 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140: yeah I know what you mean, but SMS is also 140 as well, so I think the teens are used to itNov 30 02:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @mohanpram On a smart phone they can ignore the limit. Phone will auto-break into however many messages are necessary.Nov 30 02:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm possibly but I know some people think the licenses work like that.Nov 30 02:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva you sure about that? I had seen some discussion re 2 teams one studies and writes spec, second implements from spec. thoughts?Nov 30 02:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So who looks out for the Customer who gets shafted? Bad closed code, high prices and terrible support! http://ur1.ca/2gr6o #fbNov 30 02:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @lxoliva I guess the spec can't be derived in a copyright sense from the work, sure. but it can be written from study of the work right?Nov 30 02:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Okay updated #feng class diagram, still incomplete though: http://is.gd/hXKpdNov 30 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nsisodiya/@nsisodiya] nsisodiya: You If know any good financial model to continue 'Non-Profit RnD work in FOSS' then let me know #foss... http://bit.ly/gJO0LwNov 30 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @lnxwalt140: that is true, my Pre does itNov 30 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz yeah, I meant derived in a copyright senseNov 30 03:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<dinner break over !Listening to the awesome Ella Fitzgerald "You Leave Me Breathless"Nov 30 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << !amwriting !NaNoWriMoNov 30 04:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The State Of Unity In Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 1: The first alpha release of Ubuntu 11.04 is set to arrive this Thursd... http://bit.ly/eoSru4Nov 30 04:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] waiting for gates to show up so that him kat and I can go out mappin' the tunnelsNov 30 04:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxkernel/@linuxkernel] Linux kernel 2.6.37-rc4 has been released - http://is.gd/haCJL #linux #kernelNov 30 05:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] !xxxredundantgroup this group is redundant and being shut down. please join http://identi.ca/group/fsfstatus :)Nov 30 05:18
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/davecolvin/statuses/9373994197188608 "What colour elephant? @burzikak @scott_thewspot http://techrights.org/2010/11/29/win-phone-7-in-margins/ Windows Phone 7 2% of sales -unoffi"Nov 30 05:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] We're writing up the details about the Savannah compromise to publish tomorrow - after dealing with unrelated disk failures. !fsfstatusNov 30 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] For more information about the Savannah recovery process, stay tuned to !fsfstatus and http://savannah.gnu.org.Nov 30 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @agentsmith Top 10 mistakes from Bill Gates http://bit.ly/opunQ > "That’s the dumbest fucking idea I’ve heard" -Bill Gates (real quote)Nov 30 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @linuxfiend: I'm shocked! ♻ @dangillmor: Fortune: Apple control freaks ban magazine app that gives news about Android: bit.ly/dZcuqANov 30 05:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Nice to see that Fox News is taking the high road on the Wikileaks story. - http://ur1.ca/2gs2l #shareNov 30 05:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nice to see that Fox News is taking the high road on the Wikileaks story. : politics .::. Size~: 356.46 KBNov 30 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nhi ♺ @eff: Ally ASL is back! EFF intercedes on behalf of interpreter bringing music to the deaf community... https://eff.org/r.3u6Nov 30 05:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube Reinstates Ally ASL's Account - Houston Music - Rocks Off .::. Size~: 130.87 KBNov 30 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Philosoraptor on Creativity - http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ecnxb/philosoraptor_on_creativity/ #shareNov 30 05:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] re "WikiLeaks is what happens when the entire US government is forced to go through a full-body scanner." > what if we give govts. pat-down?Nov 30 05:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jezra If Meego apps are supposed to be developed with QT and C++, why are so many of the apps that ship with Meego using GTK?Nov 30 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nsisodiya Spanish woman claims ownership of the Sun and she given ownership ! http://bit.ly/fLrfGu > we have enough suns for everyoneNov 30 05:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AFP: Spanish woman claims ownership of the Sun .::. Size~: 9.23 KBNov 30 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on estimations, there are enough suns to allocate more than 10 to each human on Earth. Our solar system's is not so unique.Nov 30 05:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I think #timewarner may throttle speeds at night. Things always load slower for me late night/very early morningNov 30 05:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nhi Body Scanner Operator Caught Masturbating at Colorado Airport - http://is.gd/hYBoZ // also see new joke: http://is.gd/hYBrq #tsaNov 30 05:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "Clearly, there is no longer such a thing as a safe electronic archive.." http://ur1.ca/2ggwgNov 30 05:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US embassy cables: The job of the media is not to protect the powerful from embarrassment | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 200.34 KBNov 30 05:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz was there ever?Nov 30 05:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm "No organisation can treat digitised communication as confidential."~ Guardian http://ur1.ca/2ggwgNov 30 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk just the illusionNov 30 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @freemjd People always talk about being "rushed to hospital". I think that implies the patient got there sooner they should have.Nov 30 06:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US embassy cables: The job of the media is not to protect the powerful from embarrassment | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 200.25 KBNov 30 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb @openbytes I'll be back from work in the afternoon, any time after that is good for recording.Nov 30 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #walkingdead was wicked as usualNov 30 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm re "...WikiLeaks should be up for a Nobel Peace Prize"~ gpeffer >> well, the leakers themselves do the noble thingNov 30 06:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Wordpress.com doubles sign-up rate as #WindowsLive bloggers stream in. http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/signups-doubled/Nov 30 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: ♺ @linuxfiend: ♻ @dangillmor: Fortune: Apple control freaks ban magazine app that gives news about Android: bit.ly/dZcuqANov 30 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @richslxh ICANN - All your server am pwned - http://torrent-finder.comNov 30 06:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !watching #theeventNov 30 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] RD @ark74: http://ur1.ca/2gs55 /RD thanks, I didn't know HPLIP was Free Bait for non-Free plugins for some HP printersNov 30 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Bibliographic Data: How Should the Ecosystem Work? http://is.gd/hYDwY sharing is goodNov 30 06:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HPLIP, harto de las letras pequeñas  | Ark's Thoughts .::. Size~: 37.16 KBNov 30 06:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Knowledge Foundation Blog  » Blog Archive   » Open Bibliographic Data: How Should the Ecosystem Work? .::. Size~: 40.59 KBNov 30 06:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Summary theses on the emergence of the peer to peer civilization http://is.gd/hYDNC "false concept of scarcity in the infinite immaterial"Nov 30 06:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: P2P Foundation  » Blog Archive   »  Summary theses on the emergence of the peer to peer civilization and a new political economy .::. Size~: 78.28 KBNov 30 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @robmyers Blasphemy law returns to the UK as the mere possibility of offence - http://is.gd/hWCL5 #freespeech #notanymore #censorshipNov 30 06:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A man has been fined for making offensive comments about Allah during the English Defence League protest in Leicester. .::. Size~: 61.87 KBNov 30 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @royhugo ♺ @FelixTreguer: #ACTA criminal sanctions + extra-judicial cooperation for IPR infringements go beyond current #EU legislationNov 30 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody RT @whiteafrican "African societies are book poor and mobile rich. The cell phone is the Kindle of #Africa." @Stevevosloo #OIASNov 30 06:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @@webmink Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist org: http://bit.ly/dZ27FI // #hypocrisy #WikiLeaks #warcrimeNov 30 06:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 193.24 KBNov 30 06:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wikileaks removed from ACMA blacklist http://is.gd/hYF7h truth is the new objectionable content? Dangerous precedence.Nov 30 06:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks removed from ACMA blacklist - Communications - News .::. Size~: 117.2 KBNov 30 06:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Did not realize that Guiyu in China is the world capital for e-waste (and abuse there of) - http://ur1.ca/2gsaqNov 30 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 490 - Map of the World's Countries Rearranged by Population http://is.gd/hYFnd via @glynmoodyNov 30 06:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Electronic waste in Guiyu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 50.85 KBNov 30 06:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 490 - Map of the World's Countries Rearranged by Population | Strange Maps | Big Think .::. Size~: 40.98 KBNov 30 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @kirschner What's wrong with proprietary IM (ICQ, AIM, YIM, MSN/WLM) http://ur1.ca/2gjp3 #fs #fsfeNov 30 06:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's wrong with proprietary IM (ICQ, AIM, YIM, MSN/WLM) | Hook's Humble Homepage .::. Size~: 28.04 KBNov 30 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @webmink Glassfish community lead quits Oracle: http://bit.ly/h7cMi6Nov 30 06:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Time to Move On « Castellers v2 .::. Size~: 38.44 KBNov 30 06:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rsandu Romanian State's Authority for Communications buys #proprietary #software for 1,8 mil. € http://tinyurl.com/3xensla #ancomNov 30 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: ACTA - o silêncio continua - Na recém-lançada @revistaespiritolivre no. 20, pag 35-40: http://www.ur1.ca/2gs84Nov 30 06:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Revista Espírito Livre  » Blog Archive   » Lançada edição n.20 da Revista Espírito Livre! .::. Size~: 35.13 KBNov 30 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU I promised to blog about my trip to #CERN. here it is. [...] http://is.gd/hT4oUNov 30 06:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CERN & fascinating insight into scientific collaboration  «  Digital Agenda Commissioner  Neelie Kroes .::. Size~: 33.08 KBNov 30 06:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anti-Piracy Lawyers Sued For Fraud, Abuse and Extortion http://is.gd/hYH3m #copyright #copyfightNov 30 06:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Anti-Piracy Lawyers Sued For Fraud, Abuse and Extortion | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 109.15 KBNov 30 06:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] #linux #kernel 2.6.37-rc4 http://bit.ly/h55syl "[..] rc4 has about twice the commits that rc3 [..] things have been reasonably calm [..]"Nov 30 06:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @osamak More than ever, people are doubting what !Wikileaks is, where it gets its documents from and whose interest is being served.Nov 30 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3 @schestowitz See #wikileaks on the Trending Topics? Yeah, me neither. @webminkNov 30 06:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "For those interested in benchmarks of Red Hat's flagship Linux operating system" http://is.gd/hYJc6 #redhat !gnu !linuxNov 30 06:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.0 Benchmarks .::. Size~: 19.42 KBNov 30 06:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/janstedehouder/status/9501350878519296 "Are you doubting the sincerity of #Wikileaks ?"Nov 30 07:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@janstedehouder no, just pointing out there are theories out there which I disagree with (some say #wikileaks is a CIA operation)Nov 30 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Theories which are based on opposites are *weak*. If people crash planes into buildings, it's not the opposite. And Wikileaks is *not* CIA.Nov 30 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People are strangely attracted to theories that the opposite of what they are told is true. Moon landing theories are good example.Nov 30 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #wikileaks smear plot: find one item in a million, explain why it serves CIA, then say the other million are just #cia 'dressing'. *LOL*Nov 30 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lwnnet Fedora board election results http://is.gd/hYLSTNov 30 07:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora board election results [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.84 KBNov 30 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When people say #wikileaks is a #CIA operation, whose interests are best served? CIA's (coz Wikieaks is then rubbished). Does. Not. Compute.Nov 30 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Nothing in the world is quite as satisfying as eating a cold turkey sandwich and making rude slurping noises with your diet coke.Nov 30 07:23
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/59495745 "What moonlanding. They never landed on the moon. The marsians won't let them."Nov 30 07:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Nov-10 07:19:34 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.53 KBNov 30 07:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@sandersch don't get me started on alien theories :-) Here's a good debunking of some http://is.gd/hYMjHNov 30 07:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Just hoping nothing in the #wikileaks #cablegate release leads to yet another war.Nov 30 07:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Add-ons Manager Test Day http://bit.ly/gKPisgNov 30 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wikileaks: US sought DNA, passwords of world leaders http://is.gd/hYMPE #wikileaksNov 30 07:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/29/nab_mainframe_cockup/Nov 30 07:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oz bank meltdown due to file corruption cock-up • The Register .::. Size~: 21.15 KBNov 30 07:32
schestowitzThe German mobbying might get a kick out of itNov 30 07:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] 5-0 !!! !fcbarca !football Absolute killer of a hangover. No denting today. What-A-Game!Nov 30 07:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @fabsh Congrats to Matthew Garrett for his election to FESCo and @rahulsundaram and @gbraad for their election to FAmSCo!Nov 30 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @seeds How to find the right Debian packages: high-level search interface | apt-get install debian-wizard http://ur1.ca/2gmenNov 30 07:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How to find the right Debian packages: high-level search interface | apt-get install debian-wizard .::. Size~: 44.27 KBNov 30 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Create Presentations with Ease http://bit.ly/e6UstR #gnu #linuxNov 30 07:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Create Presentations with Ease - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 36.15 KBNov 30 07:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ovidiusoft: Bryan Quigley: Scribus, How close is it to replacing Adobe Acrobat Pro? http://bit.ly/hzgtwS #scribus #adobe #acrobatNov 30 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Wikileaks: US sought DNA, passwords of world leaders http://is.gd/hYMPE #wikileaksNov 30 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@janstedehouder re "I heard an Iranian president mention that. Lot's of damage control." > saying #wikileaks is #CIA is poor damage controlNov 30 07:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gQuigs' View: Scribus, How close is it to replacing Adobe Acrobat Pro? .::. Size~: 25.78 KBNov 30 07:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks: US sought DNA, passwords of world leaders .::. Size~: 33.36 KBNov 30 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody A history of viruses on Linux - http://bit.ly/h6puqp few and far between, but they do exist #virus #linuxNov 30 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: ♻ @lwnnet Fedora board election results http://is.gd/hYLST #gnu #linux #fedora #redhatNov 30 07:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @WebUpd8: 5 of the Best Free and Open Source Data Mining Software http://bit.ly/eyxgle #linux #gnu #dataNov 30 07:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neowin.net - A history of viruses on Linux .::. Size~: 69.98 KBNov 30 07:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora board election results [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.02 KBNov 30 07:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - 5 of the Best Free and Open Source Data Mining Software .::. Size~: 80.28 KBNov 30 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @zeropath: Chilling #Photos Show #London After #Climate #Disaster Hits http://bit.ly/ibKZw1Nov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Wikileaks: US sought DNA, passwords of world leaders http://is.gd/hYMPE #wikileaksNov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: "For those interested in benchmarks of Red Hat's flagship Linux operating system" http://is.gd/hYJc6 #redhat #gnu #linuxNov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @didiermisson: RT @android_france: #Android Nexus S - Le passage au FCC dévoile une double antenne http://is.gd/hX3xyNov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz ♻ @fabsh Congrats to Matthew Garrett for his election to FESCo and @rahulsundaram and @gbraad for their election to FAmSCo!Nov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Anti-Piracy Lawyers Sued For Fraud, Abuse and Extortion http://is.gd/hYH3m #copyright #copyfightNov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple, Microsoft and Google attacked for "evil" plugins http://is.gd/hYPk7 bold statementsNov 30 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chilling Photos Show London After Global Warming : TreeHugger .::. Size~: 62.15 KBNov 30 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks: US sought DNA, passwords of world leaders .::. Size~: 33.24 KBNov 30 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.0 Benchmarks .::. Size~: 19.39 KBNov 30 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nexus S - Le passage au FCC dévoile une double antenne | Android-France .::. Size~: 50.85 KBNov 30 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    Anti-Piracy Lawyers Sued For Fraud, Abuse and Extortion | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 109.1 KBNov 30 07:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple, Microsoft and Google attacked for "evil" plugins | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 46.79 KBNov 30 07:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @webmink Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist org: http://bit.ly/dZ27FI // #hypocrisy #WikiLeaks #warcrimeNov 30 07:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist group | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 193.22 KBNov 30 07:50
schestowitz"I didn't say it was 'good' damage control ;) " https://twitter.com/#!/janstedehouder/status/9513613404409856Nov 30 07:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @trashbird1240 Another gem from spammers: "I’m Amy and I like this blog. Ok I’m also doing porn and I love it" #spamNov 30 07:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @mohanpram I am like impressed more and more as the days go by with !ubuntu stock themesNov 30 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody A history of viruses on Linux - http://bit.ly/h6puqp few and far between, but they do exist #virus #linuxNov 30 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @forteller This is interesting: Julian Assange's old blog. http://dlvr.it/9PPRHNov 30 08:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Neowin.net - A history of viruses on Linux .::. Size~: 70.11 KBNov 30 08:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This is interesting: Julian Assange's old blog. : politics .::. Size~: 536.06 KBNov 30 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @tekk thank you !Xerox for launching the free software movement.......// [sarcasm] !gnu !fsfNov 30 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BP sued in Ecuador for violating the "rights of Nature" - http://bit.ly/gVIiqx nice precedent #bp #ecuador #environmentNov 30 08:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BP sued in Ecuador for violating the "rights of Nature" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.44 KBNov 30 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google May Acquire Groupon for $6 Billion, & It Would Be Worth Every Penny - http://on.mash.to/hyClVw interesting analysis #google #grouponNov 30 08:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google May Acquire Groupon for $6 Billion, and It Would Be Worth Every Penny .::. Size~: 80.54 KBNov 30 08:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @joabj What I don't get is why the DHS is doing copyright infringement: http://torrent-finder.com > indeed. p2p is the new TERROR~1Nov 30 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody BP sued in Ecuador for violating the "rights of Nature" - http://bit.ly/gVIiqx nice precedent #bp #ecuador #environmentNov 30 08:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: This domain name has been seized by ICE - Homeland Security Investigations .::. Size~: 0.77 KBNov 30 08:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BP sued in Ecuador for violating the "rights of Nature" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.44 KBNov 30 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @thistleweb site simply change domain names and carry on #whackamole http://bbc.in/hcWRr2 the DHS will never stop sharingNov 30 08:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - US shuts down file-sharing sites .::. Size~: 49.26 KBNov 30 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @osamak No results for #wikileaks in English. Try all languages? #twitterfailNov 30 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @nhi ♺ @aaronmhill: RT @RichBecker: #TSA Terrorize A Disabled 4 Year Old Boy By Removing His Leg Braces… http://t.co/6ziHPqQNov 30 08:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - TSA Terrorize A Disabled 4 Year Old Boy By Removing His Leg Braces, Then Forcing Him To Walk   .::. Size~: 128.78 KBNov 30 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zeitgeist coming to !KDE http://is.gd/hYSN4 hopefully without the mono extensionNov 30 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Tandberg illustrates stupidity of software patent policy http://is.gd/hYSVn #tandberg #swpatsNov 30 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seilo @ Geeky Ogre  » Blog Archive   » Zeitgeist coming to KDE  .::. Size~: 22.46 KBNov 30 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tandberg illustrates stupidity of software patent policy | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 123.45 KBNov 30 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat to Present Technology Announcement via Webcast on November 30 http://is.gd/hYT7z #redhat - via @satiperaNov 30 08:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: North Carolina Technology News from NCTechNews -- Biotech, Pharmaceutical, Software, Green Tech, Health Care, Medical Devices, Product Design -- North Carolina's Technology News Source .::. Size~: 39.18 KBNov 30 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Olympians threaten ICANN with lawsuit - http://bit.ly/gsdQI5 time to end this #trademark madnessNov 30 08:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Olympians threaten ICANN with lawsuit • The Register .::. Size~: 22.23 KBNov 30 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Privatizing water in Africa http://ur1.ca/2getvNov 30 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PC Mag Responds To Legacy Recording Industry's 'Complaint' Letter - http://bit.ly/enr7vO industry's action "reeks of desperation": yupNov 30 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PC Mag Responds To Legacy Recording Industry's 'Complaint' Letter | Techdirt .::. Size~: 63.49 KBNov 30 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] "Public administrations and open source software" conference, December 1st - 2nd, Spain http://is.gd/hYUpc #egovtNov 30 08:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Peter Sunde Seconds The Idea Of An Alternative Root DNS - http://tcrn.ch/ieYYw5 this is going to happen one way or another #dnsNov 30 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Luc de Louw: Usability Fedora vs Windows: I’m writing this post sitting in a train [...] http://bit.ly/elF7WgNov 30 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] ars technica: Attachmate says #openSUSE lives, UNIX copyrights not sold to #Microsoft http://goo.gl/0B3efNov 30 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Help gather AVI video files for #Shotwell testing http://goo.gl/pCu9lNov 30 08:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Attachmate says openSUSE lives, UNIX copyrights not sold to MS .::. Size~: 33.54 KBNov 30 08:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marching up and down the square: Help gather AVI video files for Shotwell testing .::. Size~: 44.84 KBNov 30 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Paul Tagliamonte on #OpenRespect http://goo.gl/6TgStNov 30 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Jono Bacon: Testing #Natty and !Unity Safely With a USB Stick http://goo.gl/yF5dQ !uNov 30 09:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Word On Wordy - http://bit.ly/e3gxhE "human copy-editing of any English document at a small price and high speed": analogue+digitalNov 30 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Read this. ♻ @schestowitz Review of the TSA X-ray backscatter body scanner safety report: hide your kids, & wife http://is.gd/hWmIp #fbNov 30 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Word On Wordy - ArcticStartup .::. Size~: 19.19 KBNov 30 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My Helical Tryst: Review of the TSA X-ray backscatter body scanner safety report: hide your kids, hide your wife .::. Size~: 212.88 KBNov 30 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google, Groupon and calling Technology Bubbles - http://bit.ly/fRQL7V a less sanguine view #groupon #google #bubblesNov 30 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China: “Hang the Slaves of the West” - http://bit.ly/eOpNYO Cultural Revolution 2.0? #chinaNov 30 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] U.S. Government Seizes 82 Websites: A Glimpse at the Draconian Future of Copyright Enforcement? - http://bit.ly/hVEgAJ good commentaryNov 30 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Israel on European PR campaign http://ur1.ca/2gtjsNov 30 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] "elitists who must play at being populists" - http://is.gd/hZ1wSNov 30 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China’s Social Network Personalities - http://bit.ly/eDdM6n can't tell Kaixin from Douban? Try this guide #china #socialnwsNov 30 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks stages 'diplomatic 9/11' - http://bit.ly/g3wPpq hey, nice bit of trivialisation there, Signor Frattini #wikileaks #cablegate #itNov 30 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @iosefward: shock news! #wikileaks leak reveals prince andrew is a tit...Nov 30 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Rights Groups needs a Copyright Campaigner - http://bit.ly/hgBbgW £30K (via @technollama) #org #copyrightNov 30 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Lol! ♻ @climagic Chuck Norris doesn't need to be root, he just stares at the permission bits until they do what he wants. #fbNov 30 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese activist held over Tiananmen picture - http://bit.ly/eDUPN3 hardening line? #china #tiananmenNov 30 09:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WikiLeaks cables: US spurned Gary McKinnon plea from Gordon Brown - http://bit.ly/e6hZNH kudos to Brown; clearly must be no extradition nowNov 30 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] On the way to Rüschlikon http://post.ly/1Gk77Nov 30 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] A few questions about the WikiLeaks release - http://is.gd/hZ8iyNov 30 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] Moved to !Trisquel !gnulinux & all my hardware works with !linux-libre. I had no idea it will be this easy. No tinkering at all...Nov 30 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] @gnufreex ...just works. Which is kinda boring.Nov 30 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] #lol "Can't tweet...eating..." https://twitter.com/ConanOBrien/status/7914841847103489Nov 30 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Worst thing is: When you read Barbarians, you get the impression all the evil empire was a mere case of lucky bastards.Nov 30 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I wonder if one of the Gods was facing a customs search for coke and decided to flush it on us #blizzardsNov 30 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] While reading the #cablegate documents, imagine the authors are Ari from Entourage. It helps!Nov 30 11:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] Greg Bear vs. Project Gutenberg - http://is.gd/hZeKANov 30 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Nothing left to express http://ur1.ca/2gv2jNov 30 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @thp The Git master branch of #PySide finally allows for some #Python and #QML interaction: http://youtu.be/JuA0qRRpwHI !PyUGATNov 30 11:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @schestowitz : any pointers to these themes?Nov 30 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Shanzhai- hand over new technology for a piece of action in #China & have it used competitively against you. ht... http://pin ...Nov 30 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon http://dld.bz/4hUt Shanzhai phones and Indian phone brands, cutting Nokia's share in the market to 36% since 20... http://ur1 ...Nov 30 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon iOS hacked to run on a Shanzhai tablet (video) http://bit.ly/e3I8x7 #ePub http://ping.fm/Fpdi8Nov 30 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @rejon Copycat design as an open platform for innovation ~ http://bit.ly/9P5jeL http://ping.fm/TrYHtNov 30 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[richardsmedley/@richardsmedley] Interesting conversation with Peter Bradley of #RNLI at #BCS10 - now looking forward to 3rd Sector panel this afternoonNov 30 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Gnome Shell Overview-Relayout Branch, Merged Into The Master Branch [Screenshots] http://bit.ly/etjX5qNov 30 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] EU launches antitrust probe into Google http://bbc.in/hwIrk5Nov 30 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why I'm Rooting for Microsoft - http://bit.ly/e1b0QO one court case I really want them to win #microsoft #swpats #priorartNov 30 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Majid Shahriari and Fereidoun Abbasi http://ur1.ca/2gvouNov 30 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Public LibreOffice Marketing Conference Call tomorrow 1700 UTC: http://libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg01452.html !libo !tdfNov 30 12:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Love the connections of Fallout New Vegas with Fallout 1 & 2. Very cool! :)Nov 30 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] Updated table of threat mitigation features in RHEL - http://is.gd/hZrAgNov 30 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sendezeiten für Webseiten? Wer sich das ausgedacht hat, gehört erschossen. Echt jetzt....Nov 30 12:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The GNOME 3.0 Shell Is Advancing Too: Last night an update was published as to the state of Unity in Ubuntu 11.0... http://bit.ly/f0xfc0Nov 30 12:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] You use a kettle to raise the temperature of something to boiling point...Nov 30 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @zotz Yes I agree. It seems that the worst offenders are the ones who want 2 exact every last drop of blood. !copyrightNov 30 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Read my @corporatecopyrightscofflaws series #copyrightNov 30 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Resending @laurelrusswurm: @x11r5 come on little guy, repeat after me: #wikileaks #cablegate came not a moment too soon!Nov 30 12:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Resending @rsandu: ♺ @webmink Congressman wants WikiLeaks listed as terrorist org: http://bit.ly/dZ27FI // #hypocrisy #WikiLeaks #warcrimeNov 30 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] RT @floeff Public draft of Document Foundation Bylaws for comments until weekend: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws !td ...Nov 30 13:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #cablegate por cá http://ur1.ca/2gw5j ; no DN e Público no CM temos algo 'muito importante' a esclarecer "loira de Khadafi em Lisboa"....Nov 30 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] X Server 1.10 Merge Window Closing; Ubuntu 11.04 To Use: The X.Org Server 1.10 merge window closes tomorrow for ... http://bit.ly/gFjVYrNov 30 13:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Install Google Earth 6 In Ubuntu / Linux [With Fixes] http://bit.ly/hVBoxNNov 30 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Install Google Earth 6 In Ubuntu / Linux [With Fixes] ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 67.13 KBNov 30 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Power to the brownshirts! http://ur1.ca/2gw7rNov 30 13:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] One World / Wide as in Infinite / One Web #bbd4Nov 30 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #cablegate CM http://ur1.ca/2gw9uNov 30 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] reading up on earlier decisions made by #famscoNov 30 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] "Level 3 proposes to send traffic to Comcast at a 5:1 ratio over what Comcast sends to Level 3" (Comcast): http://bit.ly/igC0WwNov 30 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Comcast demands fees for Web movie viewing, Level 3 says - Computerworld http://bit.ly/h8HoFwNov 30 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comcast Comments on Level 3 : Comcast Voices | The Official Comcast Blog .::. Size~: 38.94 KBNov 30 13:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comcast demands fees for Web movie viewing, Level 3 says - Computerworld .::. Size~: 83.24 KBNov 30 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #cablegate Should the UN ask for the resignation of mrs CFR Clinton?Nov 30 13:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] The Vega State Tracker Gets Cleaned, OpenVG 1.1: Chia-I Wu, the developer who previously worked on the EGL state... http://bit.ly/ex4ooONov 30 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The "father" of British computing, Sir Maurice Wilkes, has died at the age of 97 http://goo.gl/86GwNNov 30 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] The Vega State Tracker Gets Cleaned, OpenVG 1.1 .::. Size~: 18.75 KBNov 30 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - 'Father' of British computing dies .::. Size~: 49.86 KBNov 30 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 2.6.37-rc4 http://lwn.net/Articles/417705/rssNov 30 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] RT @floeff Public draft of Document Foundation Bylaws for comments until weekend: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws !td ...Nov 30 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @webmink links for 2010-11-30: Intellectual Property Appears to Figure Prominently In Wikileaks Cablegate Michael Geist ... http://b ...Nov 30 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Theft! A History of Music—Part 2: #Copyright jams, from ancient #Greeks to the Holy Roman Empire to #NWA & #Funkadelic http://ow.ly/3hqsLNov 30 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] Aliens! Aliens! the NASA has discovered aliens! (probably just fungus though) http://is.gd/hZEds #nasa #ufo #extraterrestriallife #scienceNov 30 14:01
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: NASA - NASA Sets News Conference on Astrobiology Discovery;  Science Journal Has Embargoed Details Until 2 p.m. EST On Dec. 2     .::. Size~: 18.55 KBNov 30 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] the need to recognize the absurdity of lifeNov 30 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Nice summary by Michel Jaccard on the recent Swiss decision rejecting an appeal against a no-bid procurement of MS sw. #EOLENov 30 14:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/ivan_cukic/status/9538113445564416 "Mono what? Zeitgeist is clean glib/gobject."Nov 30 14:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @charlesschulz @ch_s re "any pointers to these themes?" ask @mohanpramNov 30 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@ivan_cukic !GNOME Zeitgeist does not depend on #Mono but as I clearly said, it's the extensions that can bring itNov 30 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Penalty logic [IMG] http://is.gd/hZFwrNov 30 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @charlesschulz Aliens! Aliens! the NASA has discovered aliens! (probably just fungus though) http://is.gd/hZEds #nasa #ufo #extraterr ...Nov 30 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Level 3 Shaken Down By Comcast Over Video Streaming - Slashdot http://ur1.ca/2gwnyNov 30 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Aussie Gov't Decides ISPs Aren't Responsible For Infected Computers - Slashdot http://ur1.ca/2gwo7Nov 30 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Haas: MySQL vs. PostgreSQL, Part 1: Table Organization http://lwn.net/Articles/417707/rssNov 30 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Octave for Windows is harder to install than on GNU/Linux, by _far_. Windows is for 'hackers'.Nov 30 14:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Aussie Gov't Decides ISPs Aren't Responsible For Infected Computers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 139.96 KBNov 30 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Peter Sunde Wants To Create Alternative To ICANN - Slashdot http://ur1.ca/2gwonNov 30 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ☝ Crowdsource is not open source: I’ve heard a few conversations in the last week treating open source interchan... http://bit.ly/fCd1qANov 30 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @nomalab: Congressman wants #WikiLeaks officially designated as a foreign terrorist organization [CNET] http://bit.ly/fcT72UNov 30 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Beyond the Check-In, the Era of Persistent Location Beckons: Tech News « http://ur1.ca/2gwqnNov 30 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] David Cameron yet again attempts to talk about footballNov 30 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] does not bode well at all. Forget Net Neutrality, Comcast Might Break the Web: Tech News « http://ur1.ca/2gwreNov 30 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Savannah.gnu.org compromised http://lwn.net/Articles/417709/rssNov 30 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bricking in the wall http://ur1.ca/2gwrgNov 30 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @StopActaNow Anyone remember a time when #copyright was fair? If so,let us know.New generations keep wondering.. #ACTANov 30 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @charlesschulz I think they are polished and are easy on the eyes. I have used themes where at times certain colours don't blend togetherNov 30 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir Scratching my head, trying to think of what crime Wikileaks has committed that wasn't also committed by the New York Times.Nov 30 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @mohanpram : but where can I find them?Nov 30 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Gnome Shell Overview-Relayout Branch, Merged Into The Master Branch http://ur1.ca/2gwscNov 30 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] Who Would Use The Google Chrome Operating System? http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/information/google-chrome-operating-system/Nov 30 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @satipera Woman using the Twitter name @theashes has been beseiged by cricket fans looking for updates from Australia http://ur1.ca/2goeiNov 30 14:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Tweet after me: The Ashes is not a freaking cricket match | Technology | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 77.11 KBNov 30 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I am sorry, but I still don't get the case for EUPL. #EOLENov 30 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj Why I'm dropping Diaspora (Avery's Diaspora News): http://is.gd/hZJUgNov 30 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody ISPs must play their part in stamping out piracy - http://bit.ly/hwywZE ..why is the Guardian running propaganda for the mediaNov 30 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody do you still write for #TheGuardian ? I lost trust when they took Gates money and started worshipping him.Nov 30 14:40
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Will_@schestowitz:  you may already know about this, but have you heard about the Nvidia Optimus fiasco?Nov 30 14:41
schestowitzNopeNov 30 14:41
schestowitzVery new, eh?Nov 30 14:41
schestowitzI've just got back from workNov 30 14:42
schestowitzAnd I still need to do some coding tonightNov 30 14:42
schestowitzWill_: if there's something to cover you can post here text for me to publishNov 30 14:42
Will_@schestowitz:  I'm not sure this is a "story" per se, but it is something that people should probably be aware of.Nov 30 14:43
Will_The optimus cards basically use an Intel chip and an Nvidia chip, and it switches from one to the other to maximize battery life depending on demandNov 30 14:43
Will_That is if you are using WindowsNov 30 14:43
Will_If you try to use an Optimus card with Linux, you get locked into the Intel graphics performance, while both the Intel and Nvidia cards are constantly onNov 30 14:44
Will_Worst of both worlds.  Poor graphics from Intel, power drain from an Nvidia card that you can't use and can't turn offNov 30 14:44
Will_Nvidia knows about this, but they have "No plans to support Optimus on Linux at this time"Nov 30 14:44
Will_You can't even at least have it lock you into the Nvidia mode for better performance, so for a Linux user, there is no reason to buy an Optimus card at this time.  You'd get the same thing for cheaper by getting Intel integrated graphics.Nov 30 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exclusive: #WikiLeaks Will Unveil Major Bank Scandal http://is.gd/hZLvl go go go!Nov 30 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @charlesschulz: oh it comes with ubuntu, http://ur1.ca/2gwwi that is link for ambiance, I need to find the radiance oneNov 30 14:47
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Will_Problem is, pretty much all of Nvidia's recent line of cards (Fermi cards for laptops) are optimus enabled.  Optimus is becoming common enough in the newest laptops that it isn't always advertised as a feature.Nov 30 14:47
Will_It's probably a good thing for people to know, since up until now Nvidia has been known to have good support for Linux in their binary drivers.Nov 30 14:47
Will_But any Linux user that purchases an Optimus Nvidia card unaware is in for a bad surpriseNov 30 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] goody gumdrops, this month's issue of ACM's interactions has an article on angst.Nov 30 14:48
schestowitzThanksNov 30 14:48
schestowitzDo you reckon we should post this now? To discourage Nvidia sales?Nov 30 14:49
Will_http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/473915-no-support-nvidia-optimus-linux.htmlNov 30 14:49
schestowitzI dislike them for their binary insistence anywayNov 30 14:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No support for NVIDIA Optimus on Linux .::. Size~: 110.23 KBNov 30 14:49
schestowitzOK, but you've just summarised this uniquelyNov 30 14:49
schestowitzAnd I don't have much time right now to write and research it on my ownNov 30 14:50
schestowitzWe also record a show later onNov 30 14:50
schestowitzWill_: any articles about it yet?Nov 30 14:50
schestowitzlxer/linuxtoday/something?Nov 30 14:50
Will_@schestowitz:  I'm not sure what the best course of action is.  Ideally, it would be nice to make people aware so that they don't make misinformed purchases, and so maybe enough pressure can be put on Nvidia to get proper support.Nov 30 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The good and bad news about Dell and !Ubuntu http://is.gd/hZLPo !gnu !linuxNov 30 14:51
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MinceRspread the wordNov 30 14:52
MinceRso that users are less likely to get scammed and so that there's pressure on nvidia to fix thisNov 30 14:52
Will_@schestowitz:  I haven't found any articles about it yet.  I think it's because the Optimus cards are only on the latest laptops out there, and a lot of people probably don't own them yet.  I only came across it because I was looking at laptops, and wanted to make sure the Optimus technology would be ok on Linux.  I heard a while back that the switching wouldn't be supported on Linux, but I had naively assumed that just meant LinuxNov 30 14:53
Will_It's much worse than that.Nov 30 14:53
MinceR...as long as you're sure that this is the case, of courseNov 30 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @openbytes Theres quite alot to talk about already on the next !techbytes audiocast! Ive compiled quite a list!Nov 30 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] What The Comcast/Level 3 Fracas Is Really About: Money (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/f68VXUNov 30 14:55
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Will_@MinceR: That appears to be the jist of it from what I've seen on a forum or two.  Apparently, some laptops actually will lock an Optimus chip into Nvidia mode on Linux, but it appears to be BIOS dependent and somewhat random from laptop to laptop.Nov 30 14:55
Will_http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24368Nov 30 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] I am sorry, but I still don't get the case for EUPL. #EOLENov 30 14:58
Will_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1586292Nov 30 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jfm: #q That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. ~ P. C. Hodgell #wikileaksNov 30 15:00
schestowitzWill_: brb, let me know if you think I should post abt it quicklyNov 30 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Free Software is NOT about the freedom to choose the license under which software made by others can be redistributed.Nonsense at #EoleNov 30 15:01
gnufreexhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101124/14052912015/apple-forces-removal-steve-jobs-action-figure.shtmlNov 30 15:04
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gnufreexI didn't know that Apple owns Steve JobsNov 30 15:05
gnufreexThought it is other way aroundNov 30 15:05
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Will_@schestowitz:  A post eventually might be good, but don't rush one out in haste.  This is good podcast fodder though.  It's still early enough that the best course of action is probably to try to pressure Nvidia into doing something about it rather than trying to "shame" them about it, if that makes any sense.  And for that, this issue needs exposure since most people don't yet own Optimus.  But since that is a standard feature on Nov 30 15:05
Will_@schestowitz:  and if Nvidia won't listen to people, the next course of action is to make them listen to money (that they aren't getting)Nov 30 15:06
gnufreexWill_ but there is no other GPU to buy. ATI is even worse. And Intel sucks. We are screwed.Nov 30 15:07
Will_@gnufreex:  That's my point exactlyNov 30 15:07
MinceRperhaps ATI is no longer worse than nvidia nowNov 30 15:07
MinceRand intel at least worksNov 30 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] #Ecuador offers #WikiLeaks save haven http://is.gd/hY73U #tpn #piracy #whistleblowerNov 30 15:08
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Will_@Mince: I bought and returned an ATI laptop (5xxx) recently.  Not completely terrible, but not very good at dual monitor (i.e. laptop/projector) support.Nov 30 15:08
gnufreexThat is what happens when binary modules are allowed.Nov 30 15:09
Will_It's enough to make me seriously consider getting a Mac, and waiting out a few years to see if the current situation gets any betterNov 30 15:09
gnufreexATI had open source drivers at firstNov 30 15:09
gnufreexBut they droped itNov 30 15:09
gnufreexWhen NVIDIA got a free pass with binary moduleNov 30 15:10
Will_This is why I often wish Linux had at least one good performance graphics card maker that was absolutely loyal to it.Nov 30 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Our greatest tool in advancing democracy is our own example." — Barack Obama ; http://ur1.ca/2gx2a ; http://ur1.ca/2gx2bNov 30 15:10
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gnufreexIt would be nice if AMD completely opensource their driver.Nov 30 15:11
gnufreexAnd then we sue NVIDIA.Nov 30 15:11
gnufreexFor binary moduleNov 30 15:11
gnufreexFLOSSe it or lose itNov 30 15:11
gnufreexThey are violating GPL after all.Nov 30 15:11
Will_See, here's the thing.  I don't see any foul play here other than Nvidia's characteristic disregard for openness.  But think about it.  Linux still has an achilles heel in the hardware makers.  If hardware makers ever did more stuff like this Optimus mess (or were payed to....), that could cause a real nightmare for Linux.Nov 30 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Psychological intervention affects gender gap in science achievement http://ur1.ca/2gx2p at !CU #BoulderNov 30 15:13
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gnufreexNo other hardware maker can get away with it. Only graphics market is bipollyNov 30 15:14
gnufreexAnd both parties are closedNov 30 15:14
gnufreexIn other markets, you can vote with your feetNov 30 15:14
gnufreexNot so for GPUNov 30 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[piracy/@piracy] US lawyers ratrace to prosecute WikiLeaks http://is.gd/hZQ5G #tpn #ppi #piracy #cablegateNov 30 15:15
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gnufreexSo we need to get one of them to opensource.Nov 30 15:15
gnufreexAnd then we start a campaign against otherNov 30 15:15
schestowitz[15:07] <MinceR> and intel at least worksNov 30 15:15
gnufreex"Don't buy from ***, the enemy of your Freedom"Nov 30 15:16
schestowitzTwo machines with Intel chipsets that I put Fedora 14 on have kwin effects enabled with FOSS out of the boxNov 30 15:16
Will_I don't know how, but somehow Linux needs to gain the kind of presence that makes it impossible to ignore.  So that any company that pulls this stuff is effectively writing it's own suicide note.Nov 30 15:16
Will_@schestowitz:  I found one article about optimus:Nov 30 15:16
schestowitznvidia binaries get used by clusters for physicsNov 30 15:17
Will_http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/09/nvidia-there-is-no-optimus-support-for.htmlNov 30 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts on Technology: nVidia - There is No Optimus Support for Linux .::. Size~: 86.48 KBNov 30 15:17
schestowitzthese DC idiot won't care about source codeNov 30 15:17
gnufreexWill_ It is already like that in servers. But you can run server without GPU soNov 30 15:17
schestowitzWill_: so it's old news?Nov 30 15:17
gnufreex..Nov 30 15:17
schestowitzSeptNov 30 15:17
schestowitzwell, it's in IRC logs nowNov 30 15:17
gnufreexI got interesting thought?Nov 30 15:17
schestowitzI can bring it up in tonight's show tooNov 30 15:17
schestowitzI don't want to be too negative with a post against a companyNov 30 15:18
MinceRthen don't be :>Nov 30 15:18
schestowitzNot with one that does have Linux driversNov 30 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] !listening #linuxbasement #podcastNov 30 15:18
schestowitzAnd won't do the patent spiel vs FOSSNov 30 15:18
gnufreexDoes NVIDIA Tesla work with RHEL?Nov 30 15:19
gnufreex(CUDA and such)Nov 30 15:19
schestowitzRHEL needs it?Nov 30 15:19
schestowitzSOme studios use RHEL on desktopsNov 30 15:19
schestowitzBut the polygon heavy lifting is done in the back roomNov 30 15:19
Will_@schestowitz:  it's a bit old, but I'm not sure how many are actually aware of it.  If you aren't actively looking for a new laptop, how much would you really check into Optimus at this time?  No need to be too negative.  That's what I meant about not shaming them.  But this is an issue going forward if all new Nvidia laptops will be like this, and it needs to be discussed and hopefully addressed.Nov 30 15:19
schestowitzgnufreex: someone told me CUDA is now supportedNov 30 15:20
schestowitzA couple of years ago and last year it was notNov 30 15:20
gnufreexI know, but I thought about supercomputing and such. It is supported by proprietary drivers I guess.Nov 30 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Xbox birthday signals death of 5-year console cycle http://ur1.ca/2gx58Nov 30 15:22
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gnufreexBut it will be a pain to debug NVIDIA Tesla supercomputers with proprietary drivers. That is why Microsoft is pushing in supercomputers now. They think NVIDIA will support them better.Nov 30 15:22
Will_Yeah, good luck with that, MS.  In high performance computing, Linux users get to spout the "1%" line, and in that case, it's actually true!Nov 30 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] wow my country doing good things :) UN rates Dominica #1 in Caribbean healthcare | Dominica News Online http://ur1.ca/2gx64Nov 30 15:25
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gnufreexYeah but NVIDIA loves proprietary. They would love to beat down GNU/Linux because Microsoft don't ask them to opensource drivers.Nov 30 15:25
gnufreexSo they won't care about 1% since they remove a threat of being forced (by competition) to open source driversNov 30 15:26
gnufreexNVIDIA is terrible companyNov 30 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Head for high ground http://ur1.ca/2gx6eNov 30 15:26
gnufreexI hopped they would go under recently, when they got blasted by Radeon HD 5000 series.Nov 30 15:27
gnufreexAnd Fermi is overheating.Nov 30 15:27
gnufreexBut it looks they are profitable again.Nov 30 15:27
gnufreexAnd Tesla supercomputers is what is saving them.Nov 30 15:29
gnufreexThey would be deep in red if you subtract tesla.Nov 30 15:29
MinceRit's not 1%, thoughNov 30 15:29
MinceRask ballmerNov 30 15:29
MinceRuse truth serumNov 30 15:29
MinceRor check his internal slidesNov 30 15:29
gnufreexI was talking about Microsoft supercomputer market.Nov 30 15:30
gnufreexIt is less than 1%Nov 30 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Almost 60% of Wellcome-funded papers in PMC are fully open access http://is.gd/hZSJy as they should beNov 30 15:30
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MinceRoh.Nov 30 15:30
Will_gnufreex:  I really don't see Microsoft making any inroads into supercomputing.  No one takes them seriously there, and these aren't people that can be razzled and dazzled by marketing and spin.Nov 30 15:31
schestowitzMicrosoft tried for many yearsNov 30 15:31
schestowitzIt's not newNov 30 15:31
schestowitzIt's not an underdog risingNov 30 15:31
schestowitzit's a major epic failNov 30 15:31
schestowitzI saw this in action or rather heard from a colleagueNov 30 15:32
schestowitzit's a buggy cluster***Nov 30 15:32
schestowitzNo users->no development/bugfixesNov 30 15:32
schestowitzNot even a hype-BudgetNov 30 15:32
Will_And on top of that, you'd be hard pressed to find many people in the supercomputing field that would give Microsoft the time of day.  These guys don't exactly appreciate MS's efforts to set the computing field back by decades.Nov 30 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #GRUB2 gfxmenu theming guide http://goo.gl/VYWPSNov 30 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @seeds: that's pretty cool news!Nov 30 15:33
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gnufreexI hope you are right. But I am scared that proprietary hardware (Tesla, CUDA, etc) might help them.Nov 30 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 世界中 みんなでウェブを 作るのだ #bbd4Nov 30 15:35
gnufreexOnly competitive practices can help them (ie bribing NVIDIA to screw up GNU/Linux drivers).Nov 30 15:36
gnufreex*anti-competitiveNov 30 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hgfernan Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal"Profound Hatred 4 Democracy on the Part of Our Political Leadership" http://bit.ly/ifl3ayNov 30 15:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @mohanpram yea :)Nov 30 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Free Ryzom client released http://lwn.net/Articles/417724/rssNov 30 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft-funded libel (Ken Brown) sneaks into the news: "Linux was based on Minix." - FALSE http://is.gd/hZUtONov 30 15:42
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Will_gnufreex:  look at the chinese supercomputer Tianhe-1A.  It's based off a GPU-focused architecture using Nvidia Teslas and running Linux.  Currently the world's fastest supercomputer (at least for things where GPUs exceed CPUs, like the benchmark used).  There are other GPU based supercomputers out there in the world, and more to be built in the coming years.  They all run Linux.  These are governments with a lot of purchasing poweNov 30 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to find the right !Debian packages: high-level search interface http://is.gd/hZV5q !gnu !linuxNov 30 15:47
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Will_Hi jono :)Nov 30 15:47
jonohey Will_Nov 30 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source software more suitable for Oxford http://is.gd/hZVBT "the IT head of Oxford University has said." Not just Oxford BTW.Nov 30 15:48
schestowitzjono was the star of episode 11Nov 30 15:48
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schestowitzjono: did you hear it? We featured a song of yours.Nov 30 15:48
Will_jomo, do you mind if I ask a question about what's going on with the Nvidia Optimus GPUs?  Seems like that could become a bit of an issue for Ubuntu in the long run.Nov 30 15:49
Will_s/jomo/jonoNov 30 15:49
schestowitzsumoNov 30 15:49
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jonoschestowitz what episode?Nov 30 15:50
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schestowitzI think 11 or 12Nov 30 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The bad guys are worried - did we win? http://is.gd/hZVKD via @openbytesNov 30 15:50
jonoWill_, which issues?Nov 30 15:50
jonoschestowitz of what show/Nov 30 15:50
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Will_jono: basically, the part when Optimus cards lock Linux users into the Intel performance while keeping the Nvidia side on but unusable.  Bad graphics + bad battery life and no way to access the Nvidia part that you paid for.Nov 30 15:51
jonoWill_, hmmm I don't really know anything about thisNov 30 15:51
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/11/28/techbytes-episode-13-copyfight-wikileaks-and-other-chat/Nov 30 15:51
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jonoWill_, maybe raise it on the ubuntu-desktop mailing list?Nov 30 15:51
Will_jono: kNov 30 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] White, male startup companies get funding for being white and male. | Geek Feminism Blog http://ur1.ca/2gludNov 30 15:51
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jonoschestowitz cool :)Nov 30 15:52
Will_jono:  ok, but from the sound of things, this is a problem that Nvidia created, and they don't seem to have any intention at this time of fixing it in their binary drivers.Nov 30 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] "The crazy IP violation world of Android" Wow. @thurrott is a deluding idiot sometimes... OoNov 30 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat webinar to start at 1600 GMT (in about 8 minutes) - http://bit.ly/hySgAY #fbNov 30 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Thunderbird 1, Evolution 0!Nov 30 15:53
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schestowitzwe should make beter FS driversNov 30 15:54
schestowitz*betterNov 30 15:54
schestowitzBut no use for cutting-edge drivers/cardsNov 30 15:54
schestowitzA friend of mine buys latest GPUs and they prevent him from moving to LinuxNov 30 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity - What is it good for? An in-depth review. http://is.gd/hZWAt "if it meets several important requirements: beauty and functionality."Nov 30 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat webinar to start at 1600 GMT (in about 5 minutes) - http://bit.ly/hySgAY #fb #rhcloudNov 30 15:57
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Will_I'm treating Unity the way I treat all of Ubuntu's surprise decisions:  wait and see what the final result looks like, often be pleasantly surprised.Nov 30 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How a “Welded-to KDE 3.5 User” Began a Move to !KDE 4.4 - Part 2 http://is.gd/hZXhw 4.5 even betterNov 30 15:58
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schestowitzWill_: news was slowNov 30 16:00
schestowitzSo people attacked Canonical (wrong "villian")Nov 30 16:00
schestowitz*villainNov 30 16:00
schestowitzjono: in yesterday's episode we covered swpats, maybe you can listenNov 30 16:00
Aondoquite interesting to see the irc chat on that p2p dns stuff, many people wanting to help outNov 30 16:01
schestowitzYou -showed me yours- published yours, I publish mine :-/Nov 30 16:01
schestowitzAondo: the TPB guy helps outNov 30 16:01
schestowitzSee his twitter accountNov 30 16:01
schestowitzOverriding ICANN, at least with good reasonNov 30 16:01
jonoschestowitz will do if I get timeNov 30 16:02
MinceRcanonical does much worse things than unity anywayNov 30 16:02
Will_schestowitz:  what I don't get is people trying out Unity in it's present (netbook) form and saying it sucks.  If Mark wants Unity as the desktop of the next Ubuntu release, then obviously I expect a lot of dev effort on Unity between now and then, and the Unity in 11.04 desktop will probably be much different than it is now.Nov 30 16:02
MinceRat the point unity was introduced i just didn't care anywayNov 30 16:02
schestowitzjono: Mark moves to New York?Nov 30 16:03
schestowitzHe has just bought an expensive apartment thereNov 30 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] So far, Rice and the Republicans pushed back attempts to take control of the Internet, which was US centred. Censorship changes this. #icannNov 30 16:03
schestowitzhttp://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/unity-in-natty.htmlNov 30 16:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Raving Rick: Unity in Natty Evaluation 1 .::. Size~: 45.1 KBNov 30 16:04
schestowitzhttp://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/29/natty-off-to-a-great-start/Nov 30 16:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                   Natty: Off To a Great Start! | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 32 KBNov 30 16:04
schestowitzUbunut NuttyNov 30 16:04
jonoschestowitz not that I am aware ofNov 30 16:05
schestowitzbeen busy bloggin' I see... naughty naughty ;-) http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/30/testing-natty-and-unity-safely-with-a-usb-stick/Nov 30 16:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                   Testing Natty and Unity Safely With a USB Stick | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 38.2 KBNov 30 16:05
schestowitzjono: maybe he bought it as an investmentNov 30 16:06
schestowitzOr way or fleeing from angry student :-)Nov 30 16:06
jonoheheNov 30 16:06
jonobrb phoneNov 30 16:06
schestowitzkNov 30 16:06
Aondoschestowitz, yea they are doing a lot of planning, really hope this will be kept alive, many people before this has had the same idea, but now it seems like more people are gatheringNov 30 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Red Hat acquired Makara - PaaS service provider. Offers solid path for cloud movement! No vendor lock-in! #rhcloudNov 30 16:07
schestowitzAondo: seen it in /, yet?Nov 30 16:08
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schestowitzIt links to Peter IIRCNov 30 16:08
schestowitzHere's the manNov 30 16:08
schestowitzMinceR:Nov 30 16:08
schestowitzOops. MadRobot tooNov 30 16:08
MadRobot??Nov 30 16:08
Aondohmm kNov 30 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @seeds: White, male startup companies get funding for being white and male. | Geek Feminism Blog http://ur1.ca/2gludNov 30 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @bma: Clearly the next student protest in London should end with the police being kettled.Nov 30 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   White, male startup companies get funding for being white and male. | Geek Feminism Blog .::. Size~: 37.51 KBNov 30 16:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/#!/janstedehouder/status/9636350764523520 "He wouldn't be the only one mixing that up."Nov 30 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 41.78 KBNov 30 16:10
MadRobotschestowitz, me too what?Nov 30 16:11
schestowitzThe man :-pNov 30 16:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@janstedehouder I was once fooled by it too, even repeatedly. It shows how hard it is to undo a big lie.Nov 30 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @kenami In defence of WikiLeaks -- The Economist http://is.gd/hZYpyNov 30 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Overseeing state secrecy: In defence of WikiLeaks | The Economist .::. Size~: 87.23 KBNov 30 16:12
schestowitzJust banter, long time no seeNov 30 16:12
MadRobotokNov 30 16:12
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schestowitzWikileaks FTWNov 30 16:12
schestowitzSome people don't know what wiki isNov 30 16:12
schestowitzThey think it's all the sameNov 30 16:12
MadRobotschestowitz, yeah man.Nov 30 16:12
schestowitzLike my site's wiki having something to do with wikipedia (I run 3 wikis)Nov 30 16:12
MadRobotWikileaks is awesome.Nov 30 16:13
schestowitzHere's one you'll like: http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_61719.shtmlNov 30 16:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Israeli Government Documents Show Deliberate Policy To Keep Gazans At Near-starvation Levels | World News |Axisoflogic.com .::. Size~: 30.37 KBNov 30 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] @schestowitz: I love dedoimedo, very good and informative site.Nov 30 16:13
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MadRobotAmazing how a group of self-righteous hackers can drive a who government crazy.Nov 30 16:14
MadRobotwhole*Nov 30 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @mohanpram yes, and underrated, hardly any subsNov 30 16:15
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updatesNov 30 16:15
schestowitz"Hillary Clinton and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up one morning and find an entire repository of classified foreign policy is available, in searchable format, to the public ... Everywhere there's a US post, there's a diplomatic scandal that will be revealed ... It's beautiful, and horrifying."Nov 30 16:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks US embassy cables: as it happened | News | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 275.19 KBNov 30 16:15
schestowitz--the leakerNov 30 16:15
schestowitzThe /REAL/ hero in thisNov 30 16:15
schestowitzNot Asange IMHONov 30 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kubuntu 10.10 Review http://is.gd/hZZZM !Kubuntu is excellent for !gnu !linux !kde desktops with big reposNov 30 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The hero to hail for #wikileaks fame is Bradley Manning, not Assange. Guess who's in jail now? The leaker, not the publisher. Sagner relatesNov 30 16:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Experience: Kubuntu 10.10 Review .::. Size~: 80.02 KBNov 30 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Larry Sanger has complained quite strongly about #wikileaks and one can't help thinking of what Wales did compared to the other wiki #SangerNov 30 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #wikileaks is a leaks site (one among many), not a wiki. Its strength is centalisation of very valuable leaks cause people recognise it.Nov 30 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] @mohanpram : thanks, let's see if they land on Arch soon :-)Nov 30 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Hillary Clinton and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up" - #cablegate leakerNov 30 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Patriotism to foreign policy is what faith is to #scienceNov 30 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The economic impact of consumer copyright exceptions: A literature review - http://bit.ly/iguUaa fairly mild, but welcome (via @raycorrigan)Nov 30 16:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The economic impact of consumer copyright exceptions: A literature review   Consumer Focus .::. Size~: 13.04 KBNov 30 16:25
schestowitz"I wouldn't call it a lie, just a misunderstanding due to lack of sufficient background knowledge" https://twitter.com/#!/janstedehouder/status/9640724735729664Nov 30 16:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 41.92 KBNov 30 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] @schestowitz well they should.Nov 30 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Controlling the economy http://ur1.ca/2gxnhNov 30 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Becta agrees £400m ICT framework - http://bit.ly/hYhpLH will anything much change? #becta #ukNov 30 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[charlesschulz/@charlesschulz] You can nominate your own bugs for blockers & showstoppers today: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31865 #libo #tdfNov 30 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Becta agrees £400m ICT framework • Channel Register .::. Size~: 26.38 KBNov 30 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@janstedehouder In Ken Brown's case, the MINIX-Linux lie is said to have been deliberate and Microsoft paid for it.Nov 30 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prince Andrew Not Solely Despicable - http://bit.ly/gXQTdb Craig Murray on where the real bribes are coming from #cablegateNov 30 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] waiting forever for #paypal to resolve my problem. got me on hold forever #failNov 30 16:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Craig Murray - Prince Andrew Not Solely Despicable .::. Size~: 35.88 KBNov 30 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@janstedehouder It still says it in SEC filings. IIRC, Microsoft tried to phrase it so that Linux is "derived from UNIX" #SCO (in 2009/10)Nov 30 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "the tyranny of transparency with no limits" - http://bit.ly/hbgoSI lots of worrying pushback from French politicians #cablegateNov 30 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China wants Korean reunification, officials confirm - http://bit.ly/gY5qeH wow: could #cablegate redraw the map? #koreaNov 30 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz Re Manning, I think we won't see it confirmed, because it undermines the narrative of harsher measures& continued witchhuntingNov 30 16:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks US embassy cables: live updates | News | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 264.9 KBNov 30 16:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks row: China wants Korean reunification, officials confirm | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 94.67 KBNov 30 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: XML Processor Profiles http://ow.ly/1aesbtNov 30 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] On the set of "What's good, DC?" again. #pubcorpsNov 30 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: XML Encryption, Signature 1.1 http://ow.ly/1aesbsNov 30 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 yes, then they would have to glue "rapist"/"pedo" label on a guy who's detained alreadyNov 30 16:35
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sebsebsebHiNov 30 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @FFII: #Wikilegal is better RT @schestowitz #wikileaks is a leaks site (one among many), not a wiki.Nov 30 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] self-referential "Project" project - http://bit.ly/ibGmVo "1st truly digital magazine about creative people by creative people": GNU to youNov 30 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz Right, notion that "leakers are at large" is the only way they can justify what they want to do next. See: inflated AQ threat.Nov 30 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody mind if I ask if you do consulting?Nov 30 16:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Official Launch: Richard Bransons Project iPad Magazine .::. Size~: 95 KBNov 30 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody China wants Korean reunification, officials confirm - http://bit.ly/gY5qeH wow: could #cablegate redraw the map? #koreaNov 30 16:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks row: China wants Korean reunification, officials confirm | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 94.88 KBNov 30 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] .@schestowitz You can see how useful closed "trials" &hidden evidence are to totalitarians of all stripes incl US administration. #wikileaksNov 30 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Environment to Test Linux and OpenOffice? What about an Academic Dissertation? http://is.gd/i04hh #lyx and #kile are bestNov 30 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I've heard of people who had to graft their entire thesis away from Microsoft Office and onto #LaTeX in order to get it done properlyNov 30 16:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: La Esquina de un Migrante a Linux: An Environment to Test Linux and OpenOffice?  What about an Academic Dissertation? .::. Size~: 72.46 KBNov 30 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[debian/@debian] Training Session on Python Packaging - #ndn - http://news.debian.net/2010/11/30/training-session-on-python-packaging/Nov 30 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @qu1j0t3 I don't think there will be trial for these people, just as bankers for big firms like #Goldman don't get the #Madoff treatmentNov 30 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @patcito During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. !q #wikileaks #GeorgeOrwellNov 30 16:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Training Session on Python Packaging | Debian News .::. Size~: 12.65 KBNov 30 16:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: I have a  plan!Nov 30 16:45
sebsebsebyeah a plan MinceR, a plan, that may annoy me for a bit, but yeah still a plan!Nov 30 16:46
MinceR?Nov 30 16:46
schestowitzwha? :-oNov 30 16:46
sebsebsebindeed a plan gnufreex one that may annoy me quuite a bit like I told MinceRNov 30 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alternative DNS Root Servers - http://bit.ly/f7vmy0 handy list in case we need it (via @friendika) #dnsNov 30 16:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alternative Roots - ICANNWiki .::. Size~: 47.14 KBNov 30 16:47
schestowitzwhat plan?Nov 30 16:47
schestowitzPlot?Nov 30 16:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: well I am still on Fedora on here at the moment, which wasn't really planned, I was going to put PC Linux OS on a while agoNov 30 16:47
schestowitzsebsebseb the 'ringleader'Nov 30 16:47
sebsebsebhowever now a bit of a change of planNov 30 16:47
sebsebsebschestowitz: the ring leader?Nov 30 16:47
schestowitzJokeNov 30 16:47
sebsebsebanyway Ubuntu 11.04  alpha 1 this Thursday!Nov 30 16:47
gnufreexsebsebseb: I annoy you? Great :-)Nov 30 16:47
sebsebseband wellNov 30 16:48
sebsebsebyes I am not that keen on Ubuntu anymore, but I  still want to try development versionsNov 30 16:48
sebsebseba bit like how I don't particuarly like Windows anymore, but at some stage I want to try Internet Explorer 9Nov 30 16:48
sebsebsebyes IE9 hmmNov 30 16:48
schestowitzbrbNov 30 16:48
sebsebsebso I was thinking yeah put it on,  can always virtual machine better distros for certain stuff anyway :dNov 30 16:48
sebsebsebor  just put a better distro pshyically on the computer, when I have had enough of alpha 1Nov 30 16:49
sebsebsebso yeah :)Nov 30 16:49
sebsebsebgnufreex: MinceR however of course, putting Ubuntu back on this computer for a bit like last time, will get at me a bitNov 30 16:49
sebsebseb,but Unity is worth tryingNov 30 16:49
sebsebsebhowever Unity shoudn't really exist in the first place of course, because of Gnome Shell :)Nov 30 16:50
sebsebsebor at least only be for net books, for Unity still, but noNov 30 16:50
schestowitzGNOME smellNov 30 16:50
sebsebsebschestowitz: also I was thinking well I could put on PCLOS soon,  but then I would maybe find that Unity Compiz doesn't work so well in vm, and then want to put on a pshyical install to try more properly, and yeah.  So makes sense to do alpha 1 first now,  and then whatever after thatNov 30 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [video] !KDE 4.5.8 Base - Brief Preview http://is.gd/i05Ep now the best demo but newNov 30 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gary McKinnon needs coalition to stand up to US bullying - http://bit.ly/hPZ6Tu a critical test for UK government #mckinnon #cablegateNov 30 16:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TinyOgg - Watch: KDE 4.5.8 Base - Brief Preview .::. Size~: 5.23 KBNov 30 16:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Gary McKinnon needs coalition to stand up to US bullying | Duncan Campbell | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 212.72 KBNov 30 16:52
ThistleWebis the ring leader any relation to the ring bearer? Frodo could maybe have had a day off on his travels to MordorNov 30 16:52
sebsebsebschestowitz: and as for Mageia alpha 1,  uhmm don't know yet, if I will just vm it, or install on pshyical hardware after trying in vm,  plus first it has to be made of courseNov 30 16:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU to launch Google search investigation - http://bit.ly/fRczbk Google: "always going to be room for improvement"; hmm #google #euNov 30 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  EU to launch Google search investigation  | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 168.07 KBNov 30 16:53
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh that reminds meNov 30 16:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: since I bought up Gnome Shell,  reminds me of what I read last nightNov 30 16:54
sebsebseba mixture of Omgubuntu fan boy ignorance, and people who actsualley know about Gnome, in the commentsNov 30 16:55
sebsebsebit was a good read though :)Nov 30 16:55
sebsebsebeven one person basically says they go on that site to read about Ubuntu, not Gnome Shell,  Ubuntu won't use by default blah de blah.Nov 30 16:56
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sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/the-new-look-gnome-shell-relayout-branch-lands/Nov 30 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The new look Gnome-Shell Relayout branch lands .::. Size~: 77.32 KBNov 30 16:58
sebsebsebin other news Zeitgest is coming to KDE http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/zeitgeist-coming-to-kde/Nov 30 17:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zeitgeist coming to KDE .::. Size~: 47.16 KBNov 30 17:00
sebsebseboh and I don't want to link to loads of stuff on OMGUbuntu or Ubuntu news in general on identica, but IRC is okNov 30 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Never thought of the web comic gadget of KDE as a killer feature, but apparently it is one...Nov 30 17:00
sebsebseb,but even then,  I am not so likely to do it anymore :)Nov 30 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon charges Kindle users for free Project Gutenberg e-books - http://wapo.st/eO5Ziv classy (via @nickbilton @asteris) #pd #pgNov 30 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] There's a certain open source spirit to microloans. And today they're even cheaper with a Groupon for Kiva lending. http://ow.ly/3hq3VNov 30 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: San Diego Deal of the Day | Local Daily Deals from Groupon .::. Size~: 78.11 KBNov 30 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 16: Art, or something http://ur1.ca/2gxwnNov 30 17:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 365 Project Day 16: Art, or something - rrix@TheStaff .::. Size~: 20.02 KBNov 30 17:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Comedy: http://is.gd/i0889Nov 30 17:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anarchy - In web we trust .::. Size~: 21.22 KBNov 30 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Red Hat acquires PaaS software vendor Makara (Network World): http://bit.ly/eDvZAaNov 30 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 30/11/2010: Zeitgeist in KDE, New Gnome Shell Coverage, RHEL 6.0 Benchmarks http://is.gd/i08ztNov 30 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat acquires Makara .::. Size~: 102.34 KBNov 30 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 30/11/2010: Zeitgeist in KDE, New Gnome Shell Coverage, RHEL 6.0 Benchmarks | Techrights .::. Size~: 169.23 KBNov 30 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Homeland Security's Domain Name Seizure May Stretch The Law Past The Breaking Point - http://bit.ly/f6LTP6 testing, testingNov 30 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia I've watched what you gave me. The gentleman presents a scanario but not any bit of testable evidence.Nov 30 17:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Homeland Security's Domain Name Seizure May Stretch The Law Past The Breaking Point | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.28 KBNov 30 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @seeds wow my country doing good things :) UN rates Dominica #1 in Caribbean healthcare | Dominica News Online http://ur1.ca/2gx64Nov 30 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Brother Watch Report - The Cost of CCTV: £314 million - http://bit.ly/hmowHJ want to save loadsa money? well... #cctv #surveillanceNov 30 17:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   UN rates Dominica #1 in Caribbean healthcare | Dominica News Online .::. Size~: 94.58 KBNov 30 17:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Big Brother Watch Report - The Cost of CCTV: £314 million - Big Brother Watch .::. Size~: 43.33 KBNov 30 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gary McKinnon needs coalition to stand up to US bullying http://is.gd/i09qg " #WikiLeaks cable shows the US rebuffed a sensible solution"Nov 30 17:15
schestowitz[17:00] <sebsebseb> in other news Zeitgest is coming to KDENov 30 17:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Gary McKinnon needs coalition to stand up to US bullying | Duncan Campbell | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 226.66 KBNov 30 17:15
schestowitzYes, I argues with them over itNov 30 17:15
schestowitz*ArguedNov 30 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Disney head thought Jack Sparrow ruined Pirates of the Caribbean, says Johnny Depp - http://bit.ly/hMyO7m clueless about pirates againNov 30 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] gnome-shell seems to not like pino's StatusIcon todayNov 30 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz: you're right but what he tell us at least makes me think that we shouldn't blindly trust wikileaks or any other info source.Nov 30 17:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Disney bosses thought Jack Sparrow drunk or gay, says Johnny Depp | Film | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 92.95 KBNov 30 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Someone found my blog with "i don't need sex graduate school"Nov 30 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] loving the "pro-England" WC bid bias, England are OBVIOUSLY the best bid in ALL areas #bullshit #arroganceNov 30 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Navona Records on Spotify - http://bit.ly/fPldL1 interesting, unusual stuff #spotify #navonaNov 30 17:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spotify Classical Playlists: Navona Records on Spotify .::. Size~: 79.9 KBNov 30 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "the goal is to make the world England" - Last Of The Mohicans, replace "England" and it's VERY modernNov 30 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @glynmoody: Spotify has suddenly become worth thinking about for me. They were too mainstream for a very long timeNov 30 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @silner there are still many gaps, but also many surprisesNov 30 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Apple Mac Mini w/ Snow Leopard Server could make a fine low-cost Web or workgroup server (reg): http://bit.ly/hXamJINov 30 17:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Mac Mini with Snow Leopard Server • reghardware .::. Size~: 21.21 KBNov 30 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I'd not describe HD as "sparkling", more "slightly better, but only if you're close to the TV"Nov 30 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] ♺ @techglance: The Gaming Alphabet, From Atari To Zelda http://bit.ly/f9UzHXNov 30 17:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Gaming Alphabet, From Atari To Zelda - Geekologie .::. Size~: 53.63 KBNov 30 17:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @openbytes The private/public views are only one aspect of latest #wikileaks. You should familiarise yourself and not dismiss so easily.Nov 30 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody probably the special shiny versions with the anti-bitrot features.Nov 30 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] might as well ditch that #paypal account. not worth the #absurdityNov 30 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Some !gentoo specific notes to protect yourself from r-u-dead-yet with #Apache (thanks @ModSecurity for the heads' up) http://is.gd/i0dszNov 30 17:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flameeyes's Weblog : Protecting yourself from R-U-Dead-Yet attacks on Apache .::. Size~: 19.33 KBNov 30 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] ♺ @mccun934: RH will hit $1B: 'Only a handful of companies [...] have ever hit this milestone' http://bit.ly/hZOTF3Nov 30 17:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Red Hat At $1 Billion - CIO Central - CIO Network - Forbes .::. Size~: 104.52 KBNov 30 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to rehearsals....Nov 30 17:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] My gnome-shell history gallery - http://picasaweb.google.com/bruce889/GNOMEShell?feat=directlinkNov 30 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Crowdsourcing Project: Brainstorming, Research and Proposals for Student Outreach channel ERROR:1Nov 30 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] #PayPal sucks! The web services search API returns only 100 transactions & provides no mechanism AFAICT to get the next 100!Nov 30 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia unless the raw material is shown to be forged, I just go by what I see in it. It's funny seeing German treason re #SWIFT for exampleNov 30 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I wondered if there was a download chart for #cc #musicNov 30 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] just found out that a blogger artist I used to read died back in July. bummer man. hadn't read his stuff in a long time. http://ur1.ca/2gya8Nov 30 17:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Christopher R. Al-Aswad  A Tribute «  Escape Into Life .::. Size~: 43.19 KBNov 30 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "Cathedral City Cheese" is apparently "the nations favourite cheese" #truthinadvertising WTF are Cathedral City?Nov 30 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz: for something like this be credible there is always good/true info in it. Iran is the best place to find disinfo signals.Nov 30 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] managing software packages on lots of systems? wish it were easier? it can be! get juiced with pulp! http://pulpproject.org/Nov 30 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] ♺ @forteller: #Amazon removes license info from Project Gutenberg books, then charges for them! #Kindle http://pnt.me/GrV0TUNov 30 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Red Hat Accelerates PaaS Strategy with Acquisition of Makara http://ur1.ca/2gydhNov 30 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @cdibona: Oracle continues it reign of terror on open source. This week, Hudson: http://bit.ly/gaVxrFNov 30 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @cdibona: Oracle continues it reign of terror on open source. This week, Hudson: http://bit.ly/gaVxrF #scoracleNov 30 18:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who's driving this thing? | Hudson Labs .::. Size~: 30.49 KBNov 30 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @mairin: managing software packages on lots of systems? wish it were easier? it can be! get juiced with pulp! http://pulpproject.org/Nov 30 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The fun thing about prototyping new algorithms is that you can get lazy and not mind efficiency, just throw more hardware at the testNov 30 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia I don't look into this area. Too political for me, I look more into the rights aspect (privacy, digital security, etc.)Nov 30 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@MSTechPages I also try to watch how computers are used as tools of power against their users, as proprietary software permitsNov 30 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz I've noticed that it's essentially those who still trust BO who are insisting or mistrusting WL. Strong correlation.Nov 30 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] @schestowitz (rephrased) I've noticed tends to be those who still trust BO who insist or suggest WL is misinformation or GOP/Soros/etc plot.Nov 30 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz: yes i understand that. i try to get a bigger picture, but it's really difficult, too many shadows, mirrors :(Nov 30 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[civicrm/@civicrm] #CiviCRM Blog: Spreading the Word - Growing the Community : http://bit.ly/fohDx3 Recap of techsoup webinar - lets build a stronger communityNov 30 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Korean maritime sea border was unilaterally drawn by USA, international law favours N.Korea. http://ur1.ca/2gyip #whatyouwon'thearonthenewsNov 30 18:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : News / International : Koreas' sea border area seen as a recipe for war  .::. Size~: 45.57 KBNov 30 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Woo, Auchterarder was pronounced correctly #GreatNewsNov 30 18:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia let's gather evidence & see what can refute it and what cannot. I've seen some theories over the years,then checked the refutationsNov 30 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia the worst thing is choosing to ignore the refutations, at which point the opinion becomes just a "faith" - fear of admitting errorNov 30 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[debian/@debian] DebConf 11 to take place July 24-30, 2011 - #ndn - http://news.debian.net/2010/11/30/debconf-11-to-take-place-july-24-30-2011/Nov 30 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://lwn.net/Articles/417745/rssNov 30 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] @schestowitz: you're talking about Iran or wikileaks?Nov 30 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] the meat isn't well done, it's hell done ;) #halvåttahosmigNov 30 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Every time I see news like this, I'm thankful for coworkers I'll never meet in sales and support: http://ur1.ca/2gyvy #Red_HatNov 30 19:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Red Hat At $1 Billion - CIO Central - CIO Network - Forbes .::. Size~: 106.96 KBNov 30 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] With ALM 11, HP fuses dev management and testing tools (Network World): http://bit.ly/e1k0B1Nov 30 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ouch. http://is.gd/i0pIN "We're reinstalling the system and restoring the data from a safe backup, November 23th circa 12:00 GMT."Nov 30 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I was just about to submit some bug reports to !gnu #Octave . Can this be done via #identica while gnu's bug tracker is down?Nov 30 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ovigia things in general - politics, religion, programming too. Some people reject facts if it's not convenient to accept one's own error.Nov 30 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @blanford: Red Hat At $1 Billion http://t.co/OtI8UzN via @forbes #redhat #financeNov 30 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @novitro: Nou pe blog: Studiu de caz: Virtualizare cu LXC http://bit.ly/dQ3oZtNov 30 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Kinect's open-source ambitions | Microsoft - CNET News http://bit.ly/eSxY1kNov 30 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why Gawker is moving beyond the blog http://gizmo.do/dSgjH1Nov 30 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @schestowitz The definition of a genius is someone who isn't afraid of being corrected, but is overjoyed by itNov 30 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] I wonder if there is any !emacs code (maybe available in !gentoo already?) to send a buffer to pastebin…Nov 30 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @migueldeicaza: RT @ioerror: The ACLU has come out with a strong statement of support for WikiLeaks: http://bit.ly/gdxfejNov 30 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I could probably sell that to be put on fortune cookies....Nov 30 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Hrm, potlatch 2 won't let me save after I did a lot of editingNov 30 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: China wants Korean reunification, officials confirm - http://bit.ly/gY5qeH wow: could #cablegate redraw the map? #koreaNov 30 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @debian: Training Session on Python Packaging - #ndn - http://news.debian.net/2010/11/30/training-session-on-python-packaging/Nov 30 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: Alternative DNS Root Servers - http://bit.ly/f7vmy0 handy list in case we need it (via @friendika) #dnsNov 30 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @glynmoody: #Amazon charges Kindle users for free Project #Gutenberg e-books - http://wapo.st/eO5ZivNov 30 19:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Alternative Roots - ICANNWiki .::. Size~: 47.14 KBNov 30 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @firusvg: Why #Apple can’t beat #Android http://is.gd/i0apzNov 30 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Omega (Dalmation) #Fedora #Remix is now available at http://ur1.ca/2gy67 #Multimedia #codecs, #RPM Fusion , #Livna repos by defaultNov 30 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RedHatNews: Great Minds Think Alike: How Makara and Red Hat will Open Up the #Cloud: http://bit.ly/dXUCKT #RHCloud #PaaSNov 30 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @BarbaraKrasnoff: Is Amazon profiting from the work of Project Gutenberg volunteers by charging for its free e-books? http://ow.ly/3hBvPNov 30 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @bvlad: #Winamp for #Android beta with SHOUTcast integration and improved UI released http://b.vlad.im/e0qxNrNov 30 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @SeaNmWhite: Red Hat at $1 billion: the power of open source: http://blogs.forbes.com/ciocentral/?p=194Nov 30 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @planetfedora: Alex Hudson: Potential Gna! issues http://bit.ly/gHhgDT #securityNov 30 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Google search goes under EU antitrust microscope (ars technica) http://lwn.net/Articles/417784/rssNov 30 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @Valleywag: MySpace Is for Sale; Could Google Buy? http://gawker.com/5702457/Nov 30 19:47
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: MySpace Is for Sale; Could Google Buy? .::. Size~: 78.63 KBNov 30 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Dell’s new Vostro V130 – Ultra-Thin Ubuntu Laptop http://ur1.ca/2gz7cNov 30 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] there are some advantages to scary government and censorship. Every time I try freenet it's twice as fastNov 30 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[spreadthunderbird/@spreadthunderbird] New post: Thunderbird Quality Workshop - finding duplicates http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/node/878Nov 30 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mohanpram Dell’s new Vostro V130 – Ultra-Thin Ubuntu Laptop http://ur1.ca/2gz7cNov 30 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: Daniel Ellsberg speaks to the BBC about Cablegate http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11879951Nov 30 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @NeelieKroesEU: RT @mteu: Interested in open government data in Europe? http://bit.ly/gF3BJ7 #opendata #euNov 30 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] exploring BuddyPress for a project, looks very interesting http://bit.ly/eWcqY5Nov 30 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: #Archos releases #Android 2.2 update for its Archos 101 #Internet #Tablet - http://bit.ly/es2qJpNov 30 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] .@Startlteam offering $25,000 prize for best business plan that leverages #OER; deadline Dec 10 http://su.pr/2EHMbtNov 30 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Linux 2.6.37-rc4 Kernel Released On Schedule: While Linus Torvalds spent most of last week in Japan meeting with... http://bit.ly/hlmRj6Nov 30 19:57
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Linux 2.6.37-rc4 Kernel Released On Schedule .::. Size~: 17.13 KBNov 30 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 111 dents!Nov 30 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @trashbird1240: Clare Austin Book signing reminder: http://t.co/RrRXhSBNov 30 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NASA presser on Thurs: "astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life." (/.) http://bit.ly/fO5mt9Nov 30 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] ♺ @creativecommons: .@Startlteam offering $25,000 prize for best business plan that leverages #OER; deadline Dec 10 http://su.pr/2EHMbtNov 30 19:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Book signing reminder « Clare Austin's Blog .::. Size~: 21.08 KBNov 30 19:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Curious NASA Pre-Announcement - Slashdot .::. Size~: 127.98 KBNov 30 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[debian/@debian] Interview with Jeremiah Foster, discussing Maemo and debian derivatives.  #podcast #twid - http://bit.ly/gs197wNov 30 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] What would make "make" build every file from scratch again even though there are no/little source changes?Nov 30 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I had no idea which dent you were talking about, which confused meNov 30 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] In between helping with the fires, working most of today on the new wiki-powered version of http://directory.fsf.org. !fsf !gnuNov 30 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] The November issue of the Free Software Supporter will go out later today -- subscribe at http://www.fsf.org/fss. !fsf !gnu !lpNov 30 20:08
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schestowitzThistleWeb: have you huuuurd from Tim?Nov 30 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] GNU/Linux client for the Ryzom MMORPG is here: http://ur1.ca/2gzcx and http://dev.ryzom.com/news/19 !fsf !gnu !lpNov 30 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Scary Times (#TSA, #Wikileaks, DNS) http://bit.ly/dXnYS2Nov 30 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @tekk if this a famous quote or can I attribute it to you?Nov 30 20:12
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ThistleWebschestowitz: nopeNov 30 20:12
schestowitzI hope work is not getting his hands tied (metaphorically)Nov 30 20:12
schestowitzhe hasn't responded yet to anyone and it's 8Nov 30 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] I made it up myself.Nov 30 20:13
ThistleWebmaybe it's not a good idea to focus on trying to pump out a lot of stuff quickly, as some total / record. It just adds pressure which makes it a chore and saps some of the funNov 30 20:13
gizmodohttp://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-based-dns-to-counter-us-domain-seizures-101130/Nov 30 20:13
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gizmodoso yeahNov 30 20:13
gizmodothey found a workaround alreadyNov 30 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The kernel and the C library as a single project http://lwn.net/Articles/417647/rssNov 30 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If PR agencies keep sending you mail you never asked for and try to push stories this way, is that not spam? This should be made illegal.Nov 30 20:17
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ThistleWebwe're already doing a lot of output without having to explain a 5 day gap, or discussing the next ep on the recordingNov 30 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Should !techrights name and shame PR agencies that try to push stories by mass-mailing people with sites?Nov 30 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The assumption is, if PR agencies were denied unlawful access to sites by brute force (spam), reputation will drive buying power, not PRNov 30 20:20
schestowitzThistleWeb: but it doesn't take long to recordNov 30 20:20
schestowitzno post-processing almostNov 30 20:20
ThistleWeba couple of hours per showNov 30 20:21
schestowitzIt's like a phone chat catching up and learningNov 30 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @mairin Sorry for being incommunicado again. I'll have more time for !fedoradesign work after the 15th when this Shakespeare stuff is over.Nov 30 20:22
ThistleWebfrom my perspective, when it's ad-hoc, no pressure, it's funNov 30 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google has a problem retaining great engineers? Bullcrap (Theodore Tso) http://bit.ly/gEPKhSNov 30 20:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google has a problem retaining great engineers?  Bullcrap. | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 37.72 KBNov 30 20:25
ThistleWebwhen it becomes about the numbers, total time of output, targets etc that fun starts to fadeNov 30 20:25
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ThistleWebthen it starts to feel like an unpaid jobNov 30 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: If PR agencies are spamming then yes name them. Is there a legal/formal route to address the problem?Nov 30 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Manitoba, I thought they lived in the sea :)Nov 30 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] ♺ @johnsu01: GNU/Linux client for the Ryzom MMORPG is here: http://ur1.ca/2gzcx and http://dev.ryzom.com/news/19 !fsf !gnu !lpNov 30 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera that's the thing, they legalised this unethical practice. Shaming them is the least one can do.Nov 30 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] ♺ @SkydiveMike: @flameeyes like this ? http://bit.ly/i7IjWD [re emacs pastebin]Nov 30 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Another new-to-me app: DVD Ripping tool ‘ezdvd rip’ hits beta http://ping.fm/K6zQdNov 30 20:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After discussion with some people, I decided to deal with 3 spam messages from this afternoon (they don't break the law) by shaming.Nov 30 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #spammer of the day: Vuki Vujasinovic from clickpr.com.au, shilling for kogan.com.au by sending unsolicited mail to many Webmasters #clickprNov 30 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: If that is the case then publicising their practices seems like a good shout.Nov 30 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #spammer of the day: Anna Hughes from #Ogilvy Public Relations Worldwide, shilling for Dun & Bradstreet by sending unsolicited mailNov 30 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Damn, the translucent Unity launcher in Natty, with auto-hide is schweeeeet :-) #ubuntu #unityNov 30 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #spammer of the day: Christie Denniston from catapultpr-ir.com, shilling for #Datapipe by sending unsolicited mail #catapultprNov 30 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] That's just from this afternoon's mailbox, I don't think I'll do it again, but we shall see. Don't let PR (new "propaganda") run the world.Nov 30 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "In the United States, for example [...] over a trillion dollars per year, is devoted to marketing." http://is.gd/i0z8CNov 30 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some PR companies are at least polite enough to adopt an "opt-IN" policy, wherein they only mail after you send an OK. Others are PUSHERS.Nov 30 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lobbyists too are like aggressive PR agencies. They are PUSHERS. Microsoft Florian (Fauxpatents) for example is a big pusher, for coverage.Nov 30 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ryan Cartwright: The bad guys are worried - did we win? http://ping.fm/ILPHaNov 30 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We need to encourage people to spill the beans on bad PR practices (if not PR altogether) so that money will stop *buying* coverage.Nov 30 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When people say stuff like, "Linux needs more marketing" what they probably mean is, bribe and push more journalists ("incentivise")Nov 30 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: Perhaps raising awareness of the practice rather than individual agencies, unless it is a very good example.Nov 30 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera deterrence needs to reach journalists and the PR agencies that "incentivise" (euphemism for bribe) themNov 30 20:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz When people say stuff like, "Linux needs more marketing" what they probably mean is, bribe and push more journalists ("i ...Nov 30 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @johnsu01 The November issue of the Free Software Supporter will go out later today -- subscribe at http://www.fsf.org/fss. !fsf !gnu !lpNov 30 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @miguelsvieira: ♺ @iavelar quase 1.000 já assinam petição pela permanência de @JucaFerreira no MinC. Assine: http://bit.ly/djpXg9Nov 30 20:50
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Abaixo-assinado Juca Ferreira e a Cultura Brasileira .::. Size~: 17.22 KBNov 30 20:50
Diablo-D3http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/29/two-kinects-join-forces-to-create-better-3d-video-blow-our-mind/Nov 30 20:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Two Kinects join forces to create better 3D video, blow our minds (video) -- Engadget .::. Size~: 63.2 KBNov 30 20:51
Diablo-D3lolNov 30 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @schestowitz: When people say "Linux needs more marketing" what they probably mean is, bribe and push more journalists ("incentivise")Nov 30 20:52
Diablo-D3microsoft is probably going to sue these peopleNov 30 20:52
Diablo-D3they're that dumbNov 30 20:52
schestowitzfree publicity?Nov 30 20:52
schestowitz503 KINect soldNov 30 20:52
Diablo-D3schestowitz: exactlyNov 30 20:52
Diablo-D3you dont sue people doing neat shit with your shitNov 30 20:52
Diablo-D3EVERNov 30 20:52
Diablo-D3NEVER EVERNov 30 20:53
Diablo-D3thats free publicity you cant pay forNov 30 20:53
Diablo-D3you _thank them_Nov 30 20:53
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/26/russian-parliament-guilt-katyn-massacre Russian parliament admits guilt over Polish massacreNov 30 20:53
Diablo-D3you proverbially suck their dickNov 30 20:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Russian parliament admits guilt over Polish massacre | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 72.83 KBNov 30 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Notebook makers pessimistic about rush orders in December http://is.gd/i0AUc trends change. People go portable?Nov 30 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] got an idea for Fedora 15's wallpaper? talk to #fedoradesign! http://ur1.ca/2gzmzNov 30 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: You will have to be selective then or else it will be a confusing avalanche of journalists and agencies.Nov 30 20:53
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Diablo-D3thats some pretty amazing shit thoughNov 30 20:54
sebsebsebschestowitz: you argued with them about Zeitgest coming to KDE?Nov 30 20:55
Diablo-D3I wonder if this could be used to make better photographsNov 30 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] got some great photos you'd like to submit as supplemental wallpapers in Fedora 15? submit here! http://ur1.ca/2gzn9Nov 30 20:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: F15 Artwork Supplemental Wallpapers Submissions - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 14.95 KBNov 30 20:55
schestowitzsebsebseb: over mono just being in extensionsNov 30 20:56
schestowitznot argued, just mentioned to lancelot dev cause he brought it upNov 30 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ireland bailout: From €1,100 a week to living on the streets of Dublin http://is.gd/i0Brn sad storiesNov 30 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Ireland bailout: From €1,100 a week to living on the streets of Dublin | Business | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 85.91 KBNov 30 20:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah exactly Zeitgest uses Mono?Nov 30 20:57
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/nov/26/usa-washington-dcNov 30 20:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Reasonable doubt in the Chandra Levy case | Stewart J Lawrence | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 217.32 KBNov 30 20:57
schestowitzsebsebseb: noNov 30 20:57
sebsebsebschestowitz: argued with KDE about Mono as an extension?Nov 30 20:58
schestowitzDiablo-D3: dent this: What Good Is Wall Street?Nov 30 20:58
schestowitzhttp://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/11/29/101129fa_fact_cassidy?currentPage=allNov 30 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wall Street, investment bankers, and social good : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 123.84 KBNov 30 20:59
sebsebsebschestowitz: argued about what?Nov 30 20:59
schestowitzsee identica timelineNov 30 20:59
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I cant see a post from you with that textNov 30 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] T-Mobile G2 #security walls come tumbling down, now completely hackable http://is.gd/i0BOQNov 30 21:00
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Diablo-D3schestowitz: oh wait, you want me to dent that url?Nov 30 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @f4bs: "Quem dera houvesse, como nas favelas, só 1% de criminosos nos parlamentos e no Judiciário" -- Marcelo Freixo http://ur1.ca/2gwroNov 30 21:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IHU - Instituto Humanitas Unisinos .::. Size~: 55.4 KBNov 30 21:02
Diablo-D3schestowitz: I dented that 6 days ago: http://identi.ca/notice/59167312Nov 30 21:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patrick McFarland (diablod3)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Nov-10 09:26:05 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.63 KBNov 30 21:02
schestowitzDiablo-D3: oh, you didNov 30 21:04
schestowitzI could vaguely recallNov 30 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pmctechblog/@pmctechblog] ♺ @schestowitz: Dual Booting Means Something Else in #Uruguay http://is.gd/i0AM7 "its XO-Sugar and GNOME dual booting." !gnu !linuxNov 30 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Holiday Cheers and Credit Card Fears http://bit.ly/i5edYj #linux #pcicomplianceNov 30 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: Walking Down Madison, isn't it the truth.Nov 30 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hgfernan: Noam Chomsky: Major reason for govt secrecy is to protect govt from its population. http://ur1.ca/2gxsl via @democracynowNov 30 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Dual Booting Means Something Else in Uruguay at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 29.82 KBNov 30 21:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal "Profound Hatred for Democracy on the Part of Our Political Leadership" .::. Size~: 66.44 KBNov 30 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Iranian nuclear scientist killed and another wounded in separate bomb attacks http://ur1.ca/2gzpu #wtf #cia #douchebagsNov 30 21:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iranian nuclear scientist killed and another wounded in separate bomb attacks | Mail Online .::. Size~: 72.43 KBNov 30 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TSA act like a bunch of boobs and harasses mother about breast milk http://ur1.ca/2gzq1Nov 30 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Register: Cryptographers crack system for verifying digital images http://ping.fm/Z0814Nov 30 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva ♻ @hgfernan Noam Chomsky: Major reason for govt secrecy is to protect govt from its population. http://ur1.ca/2gxslNov 30 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @p2pnet: Indoctrinated by copyright. A world without it? http://www.p2pnet.net/story/46236Nov 30 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA harasses mother about breast milk - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 169.3 KBNov 30 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cryptographers crack system for verifying digital images • The Register .::. Size~: 19.83 KBNov 30 21:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal "Profound Hatred for Democracy on the Part of Our Political Leadership" .::. Size~: 66.44 KBNov 30 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Climate change will cost a billion people their homes, says report http://is.gd/i0D9x maybe #BP can put them on a floating platform?Nov 30 21:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Climate change will cost a billion people their homes, says report | Environment | The Observer  .::. Size~: 77.9 KBNov 30 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera yeah, I probably made a point based on this afternoon's spam. Doing more would just be dent noise. #pr #deceptionNov 30 21:12
schestowitzWIthout Dana Blankenhorn, who would Microsoft Florian use as his front man?Nov 30 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Some clever people working at ElcomSoft are "able to extract the original signing key from the Canon Original Data Security Kit"Nov 30 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is Dana Blankenhorn quitting? Watch the new banner. http://is.gd/i0DIm /me loves @sjvn coverageNov 30 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz ♻ @lxoliva ♻ @hgfernan Noam Chomsky: Major reason for govt secrecy is to protect govt from its population. http://ur1.ca ...Nov 30 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hgfernan: Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal "Profound Hatred for Democracy on the Part of Our Political Leadership"Nov 30 21:15
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schestowitzThistleWeb: do you want to record just the two of us if Tim does not show up?Nov 30 21:16
ThistleWebit'd be better with 3Nov 30 21:16
schestowitzokNov 30 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TSA scans uniformed pilots, but airside caterers bypass all screening http://ur1.ca/2gzsq #douchebagsNov 30 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #BP sued in Ecuador for violating the "rights of Nature" http://ur1.ca/2gzsyNov 30 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Frankie Boyle programme was going to be called "Deal With This, Retards"Nov 30 21:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA scans uniformed pilots, but airside caterers bypass all screening - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 48.48 KBNov 30 21:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BP sued in Ecuador for violating the "rights of Nature" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 23.2 KBNov 30 21:17
Diablo-D3瑨灴⼺是敥獤愮獲整档楮慣挮浯縯⽲牡瑳捥湨捩⽡湩敤⽸㍾眯穔朰祃潍㐸港睥祬搭獩潣敶敲ⵤ楷摮睯⵳敫湲汥昭慬⵷祢慰獳獥甭捡愮獲瑨灴⼺是敥獤愮獲整档楮慣挮浯縯⽲牡瑳捥湨捩⽡湩敤⽸㍾眯穔朰祃潍㐸港睥祬搭獩潣敶敲ⵤ楷摮睯⵳敫湲汥昭慬⵷祢慰獳獥甭捡愮獲Nov 30 21:19
Diablo-D3erNov 30 21:19
Diablo-D3http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/11/newly-discovered-windows-kernel-flaw-bypasses-uac.arsNov 30 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Newly discovered Windows kernel flaw bypasses UAC .::. Size~: 29.78 KBNov 30 21:20
Diablo-D3bwhahahahahaNov 30 21:20
Diablo-D3FAILNov 30 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Meet #Synapse – the super fast new GNOME Do replacement http://goo.gl/VvxZVNov 30 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Putting Windows users on some UNIXy apps allows them to become familiar with and thus less scared of a later migration to !GNU !LinuxNov 30 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] News Corp waited too long to sell Myspace. They should have done it while it was still worth buyingNov 30 21:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Synapse Launcher for Ubuntu is fast, sexy, intelligent .::. Size~: 55.15 KBNov 30 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !UbuntuOne Blog: Small but mighty improvements to managing files from the web http://goo.gl/gbUaSNov 30 21:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu One Blog  » Blog Archive   » Small but mighty improvements to managing files from the web .::. Size~: 13.6 KBNov 30 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh: no worries! I hope your play is going well :Nov 30 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Dell’s new Vostro V130 – Ultra-Thin Ubuntu Laptop http://goo.gl/vN1inNov 30 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: #Syanpse Is Here: A New Semantic Launcher That Makes Use Of The #Zeitgeist Engine http://goo.gl/S3jxwNov 30 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Took me 20 minutes and lot of lives, I finally beat level 4-3 Bombs Away #DKC_ReturnsNov 30 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A fridge that runs !Linux http://ur1.ca/2gzv1 !fsf !gnuNov 30 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] iPad alternatives: the ultimate Android tablet round-up http://is.gd/i0Fqo #hypePad is about branding, status symbol. !Linux does more.Nov 30 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dells new Vostro V130  Ultra-Thin Ubuntu Laptop .::. Size~: 57.12 KBNov 30 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Syanpse Is Here: A New Semantic Launcher That Makes Use Of The Zeitgeist Engine ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 71.84 KBNov 30 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Infinity I-Kitchen sports Linux-based touch screen computer, kitchen sink still not included -- Engadget .::. Size~: 65.13 KBNov 30 21:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: iPad alternatives: the ultimate Android tablet round-up .::. Size~: 65.53 KBNov 30 21:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gustavojordan: IBGE lança dados do Censo 2010 em formato privativo http://ur1.ca/2gxt7 #fail algum script xls2ods?Nov 30 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Live and learn, Shrapnel was named after a bloke in an army who invented it. I mostly hear shrapnel used as slang for loose pocket change.Nov 30 21:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBGE :: Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística .::. Size~: 13.09 KBNov 30 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Kid Sees Dark Side Of Internet For The First Time (Break/video) http://bit.ly/hoDhTWNov 30 21:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kid Sees Dark Side Of Internet For The First Time Video .::. Size~: 80.46 KBNov 30 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Eye on Security: Vista 7 is ‘Secure’, They Promised http://is.gd/i0GD9 #windows #Security #uac #hype #Vista7Nov 30 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I appear to be drinking wineNov 30 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] BitTorrent Based DNS To Counter Illegal US Domain Seizures http://ur1.ca/2gyp2Nov 30 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eye on Security: Vista 7 is Secure, They Promised | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.84 KBNov 30 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle:    BitTorrent Based DNS To Counter US Domain Seizures  | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 95.39 KBNov 30 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[robmyers/@robmyers] New blog post: archive.org Art History 2 - http://is.gd/i0H3C (Lots more historical art catalogue and auction goodness)Nov 30 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] P2P settlement lawyers lied, committed fraud says new lawsuit http://ur1.ca/2gzzm Lawyers are the new (old?) terroristsNov 30 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Windows has security problems, users are forced to reboot.Nov 30 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: archive.org Art History 2 - robmyers .::. Size~: 29.22 KBNov 30 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: P2P settlement lawyers lied, committed fraud says new lawsuit .::. Size~: 32.15 KBNov 30 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG: !Ubuntu Light .iso available to download from Dell support site http://goo.gl/7JnvfNov 30 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When !Linux (kernel) has severe security problems, users see it's time for next distro version (rebooting required for that anyway). \0/Nov 30 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Introducing #Synapse: Acetylcholine http://goo.gl/CKcUGNov 30 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Uncyclopedia wins an internet ur1.ca/2h00fNov 30 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Light .iso available to download from Dell support site .::. Size~: 35.13 KBNov 30 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ~mhr3: Introducing Synapse: Acetylcholine .::. Size~: 47.95 KBNov 30 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For the Holidays, an Atheism Billboard http://is.gd/i0HxX the thing is, they are alert enough not to over-reproduce, thus religion spreadsNov 30 21:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Atheism Billboard for the Holidays in New Jersey - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 115.74 KBNov 30 21:43
sebsebsebUbuntu Light ISO availalbe to download from Dell hmmNov 30 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] !DbD joint anti-DRM protest with @fcnyu from years ago mentioned in Wired yesterday: http://ur1.ca/2h02iNov 30 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Age of Music Piracy Is Officially Over | Magazine .::. Size~: 109.07 KBNov 30 21:48
schestowitzsebsebseb: sounds like Debian on a dietNov 30 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] ♻ @jonobacon: Wow, big NASA announcement coming - http://is.gd/i0Hog #nasaNov 30 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 16 Music Players for !gnu !Linux http://is.gd/i0Ime I mostly use #minirok (no Dutch pun intended). What do /you/ use?Nov 30 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NASA - NASA Sets News Conference on Astrobiology Discovery;  Science Journal Has Embargoed Details Until 2 p.m. EST On Dec. 2     .::. Size~: 18.55 KBNov 30 21:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 16 Music Players for Linux | TuxArena .::. Size~: 75.03 KBNov 30 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Project Gutenberg Free&gratis e-books sold for Kindle with DRM at Amazon - http://wapo.st/eO5Ziv (via @glynmoody @nickbilton @asteris)Nov 30 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five reasons to be grumpy about 2010 http://is.gd/i0IIL sad -- however quite correct -- assessment.Nov 30 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Spinning cube? the 10s are going to all be about the overlayNov 30 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @toros: #Ubuntu Light iso available to download from Dell support site http://goo.gl/7JnvfNov 30 21:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Light available to download from Dell .::. Size~: 36.45 KBNov 30 21:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I like how some of the imagery in Scientology is sillier than Subgenius imageryNov 30 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @lxoliva Proj Gutenberg Free&gratis e-books sold for Kindle with DRM at Amazon http://wapo.st/eO5Ziv (via @glynmoody @nickbilton @asteris)Nov 30 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secure NFC platform supports Android, Linux http://is.gd/i0Jfo notice how increasingly the two platforms are treated as separateNov 30 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secure NFC platform supports Android, Linux - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.91 KBNov 30 21:57
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/59533767 "I like Rhythmbox for browsing !Jamendo and magnatune,but nothing has been done on it in ages.Gnome mplayer is my default"Nov 30 21:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kevin Macphail (kevie)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Nov-10 21:54:18 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.88 KBNov 30 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The reason fewer people search for "Linux" is a dilution of brands, wherein "Android" or "Ubuntu" become incognito synonyms that hide !LinuxNov 30 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @glynmoody @nickbilton @asteris @harishpillay @lxoliva: Gutenberg Free ebooks sold 4 Kindle with DRM at Amazon http://wapo.st/eO5ZivNov 30 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@kevie !Jamendo was really good when I ran out of music, then I discovered SXSW (legal) Torrents http://is.gd/i0JLz worth a download.Nov 30 22:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Home of the (UNOFFICIAL) SXSW Torrents .::. Size~: 19.91 KBNov 30 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: The active ingredient in religion is peer pressureNov 30 22:02
schestowitz"I've downloaded these before thanks, I think the link came from a dent of yours" https://identi.ca/notice/59534036Nov 30 22:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kevin Macphail (kevie)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Nov-10 22:01:22 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.55 KBNov 30 22:03
schestowitz\\0/Nov 30 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera I prescibe/recommend peer review then :-DNov 30 22:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz: lol you scientist you :)Nov 30 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] I replaced GNOME Do with #Synapse on my primary machine, and I will do the same on all of my computers.Nov 30 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera scientists are usually portrayed as unpopular and dangerous in Hollywood (e.g. Jurassic Park) and atheists the least popular groupNov 30 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] I wonder when the leak saying Scots are fat compassion monkeys will appearNov 30 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz It's one of those slippery concepts. The more you ponder, the harder it is to justify that level of hysteriaNov 30 22:10
schestowitz"It's odd. Some American politicos sound really hysterical. If a UK MP talked like Palin, they'd be laughed out of the house"Nov 30 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ASUS elects !Linux for electronic books because "it'sBetterWithLinux"! http://is.gd/i0LpK (Linux e-reader ships with 2450-dpi pen input)Nov 30 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] !Wikileaks might be the most important organization in the world. They will prove that the truth shall set us free.Nov 30 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner In some places stupidity is seen as a qualityNov 30 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @satipera I agree there is much more to it....I've observed apethy...ill respond better on !techbytes cheers 4 comment!Nov 30 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner as in, "this person is just like me." Some say that redbrick grad GW Bush was faking idiocy and faking Texan accent. #PR sells.Nov 30 22:12
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/59534276Nov 30 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux e-reader ships with 2450-dpi pen input - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 53.95 KBNov 30 22:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Nov-10 22:07:41 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.51 KBNov 30 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I have 5 new !Fedora updates. I'm sure I only had the last few this morning, but there's so many it's a blur :)Nov 30 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @silner I found this video 3 hours ago. http://is.gd/i0LYc Watch this citizen getting high on the thought of looming war & collapseNov 30 22:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle:     YouTube        - George4Title Black Friday North Korea Europe   .::. Size~: 154.18 KBNov 30 22:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/silner/status/9730417863172096Nov 30 22:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / Silner: @schestowitz It's odd. Som ... .::. Size~: 10.2 KBNov 30 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes are you coming?Nov 30 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz still at work on way home soon.Nov 30 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When analysts say they "revise" projections|numbers|outlook they just use fancy words to say "we do guesswork, we haven't much of a clue"Nov 30 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mohanpram/@mohanpram] Wikileaks moves to Amazon's cloud to evade massive DDoS http://ur1.ca/2h0c6Nov 30 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] Americans didn't go to the Iraq inquiry, but they ask Scottish ministers to in their inquiry over #Megrahi http://ur1.ca/2h0buNov 30 22:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks moves to Amazon's cloud to evade massive DDoS .::. Size~: 28.88 KBNov 30 22:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  WikiLeaks cable reveals secret pledge to protect US at Iraq inquiry | World news | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 100 KBNov 30 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes no worries, I can stay up till 2 and @thistleweb is here too. We can dive right into it, lots to cover. !tbNov 30 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @mohanpram Wikileaks moves to Amazon's cloud to evade massive DDoS http://ur1.ca/2h0c6Nov 30 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @schestowitz no worriesNov 30 22:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks moves to Amazon's cloud to evade massive DDoS .::. Size~: 28.74 KBNov 30 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @schestowitz ok. Looks like we will hit our 15 target for November.Nov 30 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz That's strange stuffNov 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz: Where they could be killed by U SAP AT RIOT? I doubt that...Nov 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @bkuhn Sorry for letting you down on that front.... OoNov 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to bed. Toodle pip!Nov 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @mlinksva: RT @zooko Fascinating essay on what #Wikileaks is actually attempting to accomplish: http://v.gd/7HP0ywNov 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sat today's on colleague's XP machine for some minutes. Windows is hard. GUI not acting as expected, many missing functionalities, like #wp7Nov 30 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: v.gd - shortened URL .::. Size~: 2.25 KBNov 30 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @openbytes yeah :-)Nov 30 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @ruiseabra they probably have fallbacks, but not as long as #ICANN lives. #icant #aggression #censorship #wikileaks #ddosNov 30 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] juice your systems' software updates with pulp! http://ur1.ca/2h0fzNov 30 22:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Get juiced with Pulp! «  Máirín Duffy .::. Size~: 37.13 KBNov 30 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] @fabsh, the only part I'm annoyed about is you asked me to put it into #BZR & later had to import it back into #git. :) But it's all done.Nov 30 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @schestowitz @ruiseabra This all proves websites can never bee as resilient as p2p. I tracked the latest leaks on DHT, was seeding all dayNov 30 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Vote for Julian Assange to be Time Magazine;s Person of the year http://ur1.ca/2h0he <Imagine it could be Palin or Obama instead!Nov 30 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian Assange: Is the WikiLeaks Whistle-blower 20102s Person of the Year?   - TIME NewsFeed .::. Size~: 57.8 KBNov 30 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner This all proves websites can never bee as resilient as p2p. I tracked the latest leaks on DHT, was seeding all day #wikileaksNov 30 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Walking my dog in the woods today, a frozen branch broke and fell on me. The dog was unharmed, but my shoulder hurtsNov 30 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #wikileaks shares its data (well, not *its* data) as CSV and SQL, which are standard ways of passing information platform-agnosticallyNov 30 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺ @mlinksva: RT @glynmoody Why I'm Rooting for Microsoft - http://bit.ly/e1b0QO one court case I really want them to win #microsoft #swpatsNov 30 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bush must be shouting at his CRT saying to "the Google/WL" to give him his messages "back". Those "Internets" things have their ways....Nov 30 22:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I'm Rooting for Microsoft - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 62.9 KBNov 30 22:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] » @salahgo: is now & finally a #Ubuntu only user, no more dualboot! Farewell #Windows!Nov 30 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mairin/@mairin] @fabsh: hehe nice :)Nov 30 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] This must be really exciting news! http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html #fbNov 30 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NASA - NASA Sets News Conference on Astrobiology Discovery;  Science Journal Has Embargoed Details Until 2 p.m. EST On Dec. 2     .::. Size~: 18.55 KBNov 30 22:47
schestowitzBelated news: http://linuxcrunch.com/node/122Nov 30 22:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Launchs a new open source programming Language | We love Linux ! .::. Size~: 22.69 KBNov 30 22:47
schestowitzVewwwy much belatedNov 30 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The American Bar Association has a poll on best legal blogs: http://www.abajournal.com/blawg100/2010/iplawNov 30 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: He has my registered support.Nov 30 22:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 2010 ABA Journal Blawg 100 - ABA Journal .::. Size~: 34.68 KBNov 30 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was Windows Free for ages, but now I'm forced to use it for part of the day again. Ah well...Nov 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Synapse is awesome!Nov 30 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: For what it is worth!Nov 30 22:50
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/symbian-foundation-to-close-up-shopNov 30 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Symbian Foundation to Close Up Shop  .::. Size~: 36.9 KBNov 30 22:50
*_Goblin (~sabayonus@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #techrightsNov 30 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OStatic co-written by proprietary software company with roots in Microsoft. http://is.gd/i0Rf7 #BlackDuck http://is.gd/i0RvtNov 30 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Guest Post: How the Cloud is Changing the Way Developers Work  .::. Size~: 51.93 KBNov 30 22:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Black Duck - Techrights .::. Size~: 15.11 KBNov 30 22:53
schestowitzThistleWeb: come to voip :-0Nov 30 22:58
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schestowitz:-)Nov 30 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ken Clarke on Newsnight Secretary of State for Justice caught between what he wants to do and what the Daily Mail wants him to do.Nov 30 22:58
ThistleWebkNov 30 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Great WaPo column from law prof Jeffrey Rosen on why #TSA's body scanning machines violate the Fourth Amendment https://eff.org/r.2uANov 30 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The TSA is invasive, annoying - and unconstitutional .::. Size~: 83.11 KBNov 30 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ken Clarke says there is a case for retribution, Ken Clarke #muteNov 30 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] While #TSA Looks At You Naked, Child Finds Loaded Gun Magazine Left On Southwest Plane http://is.gd/i0TRsNov 30 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺@eff: Great WaPo column from law prof Jeffrey Rosen on why #TSA's body scanning machines violate the Fourth Amendment https://eff.org/r.2uANov 30 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: While TSA Looks At You Naked, Child Finds Loaded Gun Magazine Left On Southwest Plane | Techdirt .::. Size~: 93.47 KBNov 30 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The TSA is invasive, annoying - and unconstitutional .::. Size~: 83.11 KBNov 30 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #awesome #win ur1.ca/2feru #tsaNov 30 23:13
_Goblinschestowitz: we're in the channelNov 30 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz #spammer hey I usually get Viagara spam, guess they know how old I am :)Nov 30 23:15
MinceRgnNov 30 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stickster/@stickster] Great phone call to close out the day. Now time to hit the road for rehearsal.Nov 30 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Have I already mentioned that I love the YouTube integration in Totem? It makes taking nice desktop screenshots so easy... :)Nov 30 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bruce89/@bruce89] The Iraq War Inquiry is going to report next year, don't let anything else make you forget about the disaster of IrawNov 30 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Can you believe it? 2010, Ken Clarke is talking about the criminal classes. Not banking crime though as that is obviously a profession.Nov 30 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ♺ @schestowitz: While #TSA Looks At You Naked, Child Finds Loaded Gun Magazine Left On Southwest Plane http://is.gd/i0TRsNov 30 23:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: While TSA Looks At You Naked, Child Finds Loaded Gun Magazine Left On Southwest Plane | Techdirt .::. Size~: 93.47 KBNov 30 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[qu1j0t3/@qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz While #TSA Looks At You Naked, Child Finds Loaded Gun Magazine Left On Southwest Plane http://is.gd/i0TRsNov 30 23:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: While TSA Looks At You Naked, Child Finds Loaded Gun Magazine Left On Southwest Plane | Techdirt .::. Size~: 93.47 KBNov 30 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] just taught my dad about tv remotes (IR) and digital cameras (and their lack of IR filtering), and how you can thus check if remote worksNov 30 23:33
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/58955247#notice-59536912 "isn't it grand we have so many choices?"Nov 30 23:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 13.06 KBNov 30 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Guh… I close an @sourceforge page by mistake, re-open with C-S-t and a new interface appear? :)Nov 30 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF runs down the latest legal developments when it comes to locational #privacy and cell phone and GPS tracking https://eff.org/r.2u9Nov 30 23:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Location, Location, Location: Three Recent Court Controversies on Cell Phone & GPS Tracking (and a Congressional Hearing, Too) | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.89 KBNov 30 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Using the Canon Hack Development Kit (Spectrum) http://lwn.net/Articles/417850/rssNov 30 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] ♺@eff:EFF runs down the latest legal developments when it comes to locational #privacy and cell phone and GPS tracking https://eff.org/r.2u9Nov 30 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Using the Canon Hack Development Kit (Spectrum) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.2 KBNov 30 23:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Location, Location, Location: Three Recent Court Controversies on Cell Phone & GPS Tracking (and a Congressional Hearing, Too) | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.89 KBNov 30 23:43
*gbi (185ba9f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.91.169.246) has joined #techrightsNov 30 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] November's Free Software Supporter is out; should be landing in your inbox shortly. !fsf !gnu !lpNov 30 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[flameeyes/@flameeyes] Why is Genesys Logic still producing SATA-to-USB bridges? This is the _fourth_ external HDD using that crap I have here…Nov 30 23:50
cubezzzguess what you see after you log into plan 9 for the first time?Nov 30 23:51
cubezzza solid grey screenNov 30 23:51
cubezzzoh and a pointer, up in the top left of the screenNov 30 23:51
cubezzzit makes twm look goodNov 30 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] #whiskey-induced drunken-coding session.start();Nov 30 23:52
gbiyou probably don't have a wm runningNov 30 23:52
cubezzzwrongNov 30 23:52
cubezzzthat's what rio looks likeNov 30 23:52
cubezzzfinally I have a terminalNov 30 23:53
cubezzzit's got to be the least friendly OS everNov 30 23:54
gbiso it looks like miguel icaza finally realized moono is going nowhereNov 30 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[seeds/@seeds] #netbook died. It fell in the #bronx on the weekend. but it didn't #fail. now it fails.Nov 30 23:55
gbihttp://twitter.com/#!/migueldeicaza/status/9631116499615744Nov 30 23:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 42.16 KBNov 30 23:55
gbihiring people for C/asm nowNov 30 23:55
gbiin Tokyo (why Tokyo?)Nov 30 23:55
gbioh, woopsNov 30 23:56
gbin/mNov 30 23:56
gbihiring them to work on monoNov 30 23:56
gbimissed that when I first read it earlier todayNov 30 23:56
gbinow I feel like an idiotNov 30 23:59

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