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| schestowitz | "It's strange how God blesses us at times." -Mac Asay http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/12/when-it-rains.html | Jan 11 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: hi back | Jan 11 05:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Jan 11 05:50 |
| schestowitz | how's the project? Jan release? | Jan 11 06:13 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: end of Jan it seems | Jan 11 06:25 |
| sebsebseb | for alpha 1 | Jan 11 06:25 |
| schestowitz | The Mono booster try comparing me to beck http://i.imgur.com/e0PES.jpg | Jan 11 07:20 |
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| schestowitz | Or this.. http://i.imgur.com/frFt4.jpg | Jan 11 07:21 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you saw this of course? http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=11/01/11/0615258 | Jan 11 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Record Labels To Pay For Copyright Infringement - Slashdot .::. Size~: 126.02 KB | Jan 11 14:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: emulating the 'breaking the law is just a balance sheet item' Microsoft model | Jan 11 14:44 |
| schestowitz | I know the case, not this latest story. Been at work till now | Jan 11 14:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | "US is having difficulties in fulfilling Obama's promise to close the Guantánamo Bay detention camp and is now considering incentives in return for other countries accepting detainees, including a one-on-one meeting with Obama or assistance with the IMF" | Jan 11 14:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | Jan 11 14:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | how f***ig pathetic | Jan 11 14:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | now, how many of those countries are already enduring occupation and/or bases? | Jan 11 14:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | yet can't get a "1 on 1" with obama | Jan 11 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Obama is no Kennedy | Jan 11 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Notice that obama visits to australia keep on not happening. | Jan 11 14:52 |
| schestowitz | The dude's obeying GOP re tax | Jan 11 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he doesn't want to be on Palin's "take down" list and end up almost without a head, like Kennedy | Jan 11 14:52 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: "Australia is part of the American empire" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ | Jan 11 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://enews.fergananews.com/news.php?id=1970 | Jan 11 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | "An Uzbek human rights group concerned about the World Bank's failure to concede state control of agriculture and the extent of child labor in Uzbekistan's cotton industry has received an acknowledgement from the Bank about its concerns. " | Jan 11 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Strange people say that. schestowitz | Jan 11 14:57 |
| oiaohm | Australia has a very bad habit of saying no to the USA a lot. | Jan 11 14:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: like on Iraq. | Jan 11 14:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: one YES can make all NOs meaningless. | Jan 11 14:58 |
| oiaohm | East timor. USA and others told Australia not to go in there. | Jan 11 14:58 |
| oiaohm | What does Australia get out of Iraq | Jan 11 14:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: ask Johnny | Jan 11 14:59 |
| oiaohm | USA really need to learn to protect the supply lines. | Jan 11 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Strange that australian ships and aircraft have a habit of returning from iraq more heavily loaded then when they left. | Jan 11 15:00 |
| oiaohm | USA also has strict limits on how many Australia mil personal are allowed on USA vessals at one time. | Jan 11 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Past history has been expesive for the USA when they have forgot that when doing war games in australian waters. | Jan 11 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Iraq war has given australian a lot of free mil hardware also above board. qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:05 |
| oiaohm | These include new free heavy lift aircraft for Australian Airforce. | Jan 11 15:06 |
| oiaohm | You could say iraq war Australia was kind bought off. | Jan 11 15:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, that's okay then | Jan 11 15:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | anyway we've had this conversation before... i don't find Australia's participation personally acceptable | Jan 11 15:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | and nor did a majority of the public | Jan 11 15:08 |
| oiaohm | What choice do we have. | Jan 11 15:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | nice attitude | Jan 11 15:08 |
| oiaohm | USA has left us out to dry in our region. | Jan 11 15:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | it was a frakin WAR. they matter. | Jan 11 15:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | invasion* | Jan 11 15:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: right, any minute now Indonesia is going to invade, because US left AUst unprotected. | Jan 11 15:09 |
| oiaohm | We have had many battles in the last 8 years that risked spilling into our boarders. | Jan 11 15:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | if saying NO is the price, then so be it. | Jan 11 15:10 |
| oiaohm | Worst part is in the UN USA has in a lot of cases lead groups blocking what is required. | Jan 11 15:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh, bad grammar. but anyway. no point in discussing it, we have different ositions. | Jan 11 15:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | p* | Jan 11 15:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think you leave unexamined the cynicism of the Howard government in overruling public sentiment. | Jan 11 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Like to forget Australian reporters were killed in east timor at the time Australia had to cover that up becuase again we did not have support from other countries. | Jan 11 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Yes we have been left to hang in our region a lot. | Jan 11 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Lot of things have been covered up to hide the fact Australia has repeatedly been left without support. | Jan 11 15:12 |
| oiaohm | Also its not like the blood letting in iraq was not spreeding into our boarders. | Jan 11 15:13 |
| oiaohm | Don't invaid iraq and people feeing it would have still been coming to Australia. qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | who cares? | Jan 11 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Not like the USA had that problem of people from iraq crossing there boarders and keep on there internal disputes. | Jan 11 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | the invasion was wrong. | Jan 11 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: Bali. | Jan 11 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: aust does not have an illegal immigration problem | Jan 11 15:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: it's the luxury of its geography | Jan 11 15:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: *Italy*, *US* do | Jan 11 15:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | (for example) | Jan 11 15:15 |
| oiaohm | Really you think we are fine here. | Jan 11 15:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep | Jan 11 15:15 |
| oiaohm | We do have illegal immigration but they get in other ways. | Jan 11 15:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | italy has influx of 200,000 illegals per year | Jan 11 15:16 |
| oiaohm | Like shipping containers on boats. | Jan 11 15:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: how many? | Jan 11 15:16 |
| oiaohm | We are lucky in a lot of ways. Lot of them are stupid. | Jan 11 15:16 |
| oiaohm | 200,000 would be the same if they did not kill themselves getting there. | Jan 11 15:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | i certainly see the geographic situation as an ambiguous benefit. cuts down on border problems but produces a psychological illness. | Jan 11 15:17 |
| oiaohm | Ie CO2 poisioning from being in the shipping container due to poor air circulation. | Jan 11 15:17 |
| oiaohm | Yes geographic makes it harder to get in. | Jan 11 15:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: i bet the stat on dead bodies hauled out of containers aren't easy to come by | Jan 11 15:18 |
| oiaohm | Yep since you can bet a few go over the side of the boat to hide the fact all in there died. | Jan 11 15:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | but perhaps there aren't so many, just as there aren't so many stowaways in airliner wheel wells | Jan 11 15:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: can you access containersin general on the boat? | Jan 11 15:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: just use 'special' containers with air holes | Jan 11 15:20 |
| oiaohm | Note I said stupid. | Jan 11 15:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: very lucrative trade, and AHA, now we have a real business opportunity | Jan 11 15:20 |
| oiaohm | You might have containers with air holes | Jan 11 15:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | China | Jan 11 15:20 |
| oiaohm | But the problem is lot of these end up over filled. | Jan 11 15:20 |
| MinceR | they're tightly packed anyway, aren't they? | Jan 11 15:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | hmmmm | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | i see | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's capitalism for you | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | never know when to stop | Jan 11 15:21 |
| MinceR | unless they can arrange for a container at an edge or corner or at the top | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: right | Jan 11 15:21 |
| MinceR | or side | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: i was wondering about the ends of containers actually | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: since many ends can be exposed | Jan 11 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Problem is when the boat is being loaded you don't know where container will end up. | Jan 11 15:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: surely that's easy to fix | Jan 11 15:22 |
| oiaohm | No its not a easy fix. | Jan 11 15:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: just pay to find out the shippinh schedule and a bit extra to make sure it's followed | Jan 11 15:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | loading schedule* | Jan 11 15:22 |
| MinceR | bribes can go a long way, can they not? | Jan 11 15:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: lot of money involved in this, esp since china would be the main soruce | Jan 11 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Due to the fact to blance of ship is dependant on the placement of the containers and how much they contain. | Jan 11 15:22 |
| *qu1j0t3 agrees with MinceR | Jan 11 15:23 | |
| oiaohm | Bribing will not help you. | Jan 11 15:23 |
| oiaohm | You cannot load a ship miss blanced. | Jan 11 15:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: only if the bribe is too small :) | Jan 11 15:23 |
| oiaohm | Miss blanced ship may not get out port. qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: right, but that's why it's easy. becaus rthe schedule is planed in advance. | Jan 11 15:23 |
| MinceR | will one container mess up balance that much? | Jan 11 15:24 |
| oiaohm | If its on the top it can. MinceR | Jan 11 15:24 |
| oiaohm | The higher it up the bigger effect it has on blance. | Jan 11 15:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: containers of same weight can be exchanged. there seem to be trivial solutions ot this. | Jan 11 15:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: remember... lots of money involved | Jan 11 15:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: not just ppl smuggling either. | Jan 11 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Also higher the container is up the more locked down it load has to be. | Jan 11 15:25 |
| MinceR | if they need to balance along 2 axes, all they need to do is put people in 4 containers and make sure they're at the 4 top corners | Jan 11 15:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not even that hard | Jan 11 15:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: humans in containers are very much like containers with liquied. | Jan 11 15:25 |
| oiaohm | That are no proper filled. | Jan 11 15:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | a central container has practically zero effect on balance. e.g. central, bottom. | Jan 11 15:25 |
| oiaohm | central bottom takes the unstable containers. | Jan 11 15:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | this just doesn't seem like a hard problem at all. | Jan 11 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Exactly where you don't want to be if you want to get out. | Jan 11 15:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | pay me 50,000 and it gets even easier ;-) | Jan 11 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Also centrel bottom has the highest co2 in air to start off with. | Jan 11 15:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | clealry you need air holes. also cheap to add. | Jan 11 15:27 |
| oiaohm | air around the container high in CO2 | Jan 11 15:27 |
| oiaohm | So air holes are not going to help you much | Jan 11 15:27 |
| *qu1j0t3 has to do some work | Jan 11 15:28 | |
| oiaohm | This is the problem container ships are not that imergration friendly. | Jan 11 15:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, i'm glad i'm not so desperate as to spend my life savings and risk my life like that. | Jan 11 15:28 |
| MinceR | they could go for the centers of sides at a lower level as long as it still has 1 face exposed | Jan 11 15:28 |
| *qu1j0t3 counts blessings | Jan 11 15:28 | |
| oiaohm | lower level is under the water line inside the hull. MinceR | Jan 11 15:29 |
| oiaohm | If lucky top face exposed. | Jan 11 15:29 |
| oiaohm | Without an container on top. | Jan 11 15:29 |
| MinceR | then the highest level that's exposed on the side. | Jan 11 15:29 |
| MinceR | i mean lowest | Jan 11 15:30 |
| MinceR | or they could go for top center | Jan 11 15:30 |
| MinceR | and access air through the top | Jan 11 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Also remember any contain exposed also has to be dropable over the side in case of storm. | Jan 11 15:30 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 11 15:30 |
| MinceR | it's a small risk to take ;) | Jan 11 15:31 |
| oiaohm | Really? | Jan 11 15:31 |
| oiaohm | top center would be the safest. | Jan 11 15:32 |
| oiaohm | Ie less likely to be looked at as balast to send over the side. | Jan 11 15:32 |
| oiaohm | But even that has problems. | Jan 11 15:33 |
| oiaohm | Express orders placed on containers. Causing last min loading onto boat. So sealing top center in a normal load off. | Jan 11 15:33 |
| schestowitz | [15:28] <qu1j0t3> well, i'm glad i'm not so desperate as to spend my life savings and risk my life like that. | Jan 11 15:34 |
| oiaohm | Problem with Express olders is normally the container of the express order has sat in yard for 4 to 6 months. | Jan 11 15:34 |
| *schestowitz hands microfinance plan to qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:34 | |
| oiaohm | At the bottom of stacks. MinceR | Jan 11 15:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 11 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Yes Australia defence against most is the path is simply killing. | Jan 11 15:35 |
| oiaohm | Remember the recent one up at chrismas island. | Jan 11 15:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: re: sealing, there is a lot of access to container ends | Jan 11 15:36 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the ship loaded onto. qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:36 |
| oiaohm | That is the big problem with container shipping you never know what ship it will be on. | Jan 11 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Until its loaded on there. | Jan 11 15:37 |
| oiaohm | It venterlation around the container. Ie 20 to 50 people in a container produces a lot of CO2 over many weeks in shipping. | Jan 11 15:38 |
| oiaohm | Lot more than what general cargo will produce. | Jan 11 15:39 |
| oiaohm | You must have a few over there who die in trucks. qu1j0t3 due to equal problems. | Jan 11 15:39 |
| oiaohm | Any ideas why container ships don't have particularly strong venterlation. Its fire suppression. qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:41 |
| oiaohm | Yes a container packed with humans makes a very good impression of a fire. | Jan 11 15:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | oiaohm: yep, ppl die in trucks | Jan 11 15:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | desperate illegals die in all kinds of nasty ways :( | Jan 11 15:45 |
| *qu1j0t3 rly has to get motivated to work now | Jan 11 15:46 | |
| schestowitz | Or in the desert | Jan 11 15:46 |
| oiaohm | Basically we get the same number but there paths are limited to ways that have nasty ends more often then not. qu1j0t3 | Jan 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Leftists help them | Jan 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Drink, food, transport | Jan 11 15:46 |
| schestowitz | The Nazis shoot them as they try to cross, or target them with cameras | Jan 11 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Even so Australia has been trying to set up processing closer to source of the problems. | Jan 11 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Depending on one's level of xenophobi | Jan 11 15:47 |
| oiaohm | To true to reduce the deaths. | Jan 11 15:47 |
| oiaohm | true/try | Jan 11 15:47 |
| schestowitz | Same country, white people, such opposite approach towards their Mexican neighbours | Jan 11 15:47 |
| schestowitz | I once saw a good documentary that I can't find now from a group that saves lives in the border | Jan 11 15:48 |
| schestowitz | And the border control people (some of whom are openly neo-Nazi) obviously try to paint the helpers as enemies | Jan 11 15:49 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: You forget Australia was not aways good. | Jan 11 15:51 |
| oiaohm | At one point we did have the white Australia policy. | Jan 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* oiaohm - see the last comment here: http://www.linuxaria.com/article/mono-linux-good-bad?lang=en | Jan 11 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Linuxaria Mono it’s good or bad for Linux ? : Linuxaria .::. Size~: 64.16 KB | Jan 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks, personal attacks, personal attacks... | Jan 11 15:52 |
| schestowitz | "It’s run by a psycho who calls himself a doctor..." | Jan 11 15:53 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jan 11 15:53 |
| schestowitz | "quoting him or his site would crush your credibility, IMO." | Jan 11 15:53 |
| schestowitz | The same people who try to embargo the site, yet struggle to find a reason | Jan 11 15:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61979861 re "How come the press almost ignores the 6+ people killed when Congresswoman #Giffords was shot? Are they lesser people?" | Jan 11 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Lohan G (lohang)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jan-11 16:13:01 UTC - Lohan's stream of (un)consciousness: @schestowitz good question!!! | Jan 11 16:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/24853899680681984 | Jan 11 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @glynmoody: @schestowitz thanks - trying to keep it clear to help people appreciate key dangers | Jan 11 16:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lohang/status/24861168464039936 | Jan 11 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @lohang: RT @schestowitz Bankers calling for the arrest of #wikileaks folks are akin to thieves who cry foul over the policemen … http://ur1.ca/2t7o5 | Jan 11 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Lohan G (lohang)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jan-11 16:11:24 UTC - Lohan's stream of (un)consciousness .::. Size~: 8.24 KB | Jan 11 16:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/razvansandu/status/24888849062690816 | Jan 11 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @razvansandu: @schestowitz: Same model, same secret service mob. I suspect a social experiment in Eastern Europe... | Jan 11 18:19 |
| schestowitz | re: "♺ @rsandu It's a mixture of real, good anticommunism and autocracy. Ex-communist secret service officers are VERY powerfull.>sounds like ru" | Jan 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz | What about .hu, MinceR? | Jan 11 18:20 |
| MinceR | dunno | Jan 11 18:20 |
| schestowitz | Orban gets heat from oveseas now | Jan 11 18:25 |
| schestowitz | *overseas | Jan 11 18:26 |
| schestowitz | What's important is that people point the finger at him/his party and not the nation | Jan 11 18:26 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 11 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Assuming it's a multi-party state .... unlike the US | Jan 11 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Blues and Reds | Jan 11 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Like the flag | Jan 11 18:27 |
| MinceR | it's two-party, like the usa | Jan 11 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Can't have one without the other.. GOP and Dems | Jan 11 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Pinky and the Brain | Jan 11 18:28 |
| MinceR | though the "hold stake in both major parties" practice doesn't seem so common here | Jan 11 18:28 |
| MinceR | (the oligarchs aren't smart enough to do that) | Jan 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikileaks.png | Jan 11 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jan 11 18:28 |
| MinceR | the saddest of it is that the zombies will still vote on these two parties after all this, if they get another chance | Jan 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, parties fund corporations | Jan 11 18:28 |
| MinceR | people west of here at least realize that eliminating democracy and freedom of speech is bad | Jan 11 18:29 |
| MinceR | the zombies here don't realize anything | Jan 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | In Soviet Russia, orgy parties fund oligarchs | Jan 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but CNN told them Wikileaks is nasty | Jan 11 18:29 |
| MinceR | and so did faux news | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | This one says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81tIbvm4dps | Jan 11 18:30 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: YouTube - Glenn Greenwald debates WikiLeaks with Frances Townsend on CNN .::. Size~: 133.72 KB | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Yellin DRONE... | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Disgusing | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | *ting | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Two people against wikileaks in a panel of 3 | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | With one person who's a Bush advisor | Jan 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Just dented it, too... | Jan 11 18:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: depends how you define 'west' | Jan 11 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: most people are hypnotised by tv | Jan 11 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: everywhere | Jan 11 18:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: it's meant to replace political engagement | Jan 11 18:57 |
| MinceR | qu1j0t3: western europe and north america. though i'd also include northern europe. | Jan 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | West if Real World(R) | Jan 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | World is World | Jan 11 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: right, North and much of South America is fucked | Jan 11 18:58 |
| MinceR | i know | Jan 11 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: though yeah, ex-Soviets are a special brand of fucked... | Jan 11 18:58 |
| MinceR | but it seems to me that many usians still at least pay lip service to some aspects of freedom and democracy, even if they don't care whether they're really implemented | Jan 11 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: lip service is about right :) | Jan 11 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: the problem is that they have no point of comparison | Jan 11 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | echo chamber | Jan 11 18:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | they believed their own myths | Jan 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61979057 | Jan 11 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jan-11 16:00:52 UTC - Identi.ca: WebUpd8 Can Be Accessed From Turkey Again http://is.gd/kyWGR Turkey can censor !Linux blogs too. Is this an open Internet? !wikileaks #orban | Jan 11 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: WebUpd8 Can Be Accessed From Turkey Again ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 52.82 KB | Jan 11 19:24 |
| schestowitz | [19:23] <_Goblin> schestowitz: you here? | Jan 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:24] <_Goblin> schestowitz: for when you are......... Please, please be careful with forbes. I hope he's a very nice chap however Im getting one of my funny stomachs and thats not a good sign. He's working to fast for my liking. Like I say, I would hope he's just a nice guy....my gut instinct tells me otherwise..... | Jan 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:25] <_Goblin> I am very rarely wrong when I get one of my feelings in my stomach | Jan 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:31] <schestowitz> I know... | Jan 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:31] <schestowitz> You think it could be a fake? | Jan 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | twitterspam. https://twitter.com/407AbuseOfPower/status/24905497891053568 | Jan 11 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @407AbuseOfPower: @schestowitz please be sure to follow us and help make a difference! | Jan 11 19:37 |
| schestowitz | [19:47:43] freakazoid.gord: I think I'll need a wired network connection to make any sort of reliable connection | Jan 11 19:50 |
| schestowitz | [19:49:42] freakazoid.gord: I don't have access to one right now | Jan 11 19:50 |
| schestowitz | [19:49:55] freakazoid.gord: I guess we'll have to try again later | Jan 11 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I don't see the rush to do all this, I think goblin thinks it's an infiltrator or something | Jan 11 19:50 |
| *gnufreex (~quassel@178-223-125-81.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Jan 11 20:10 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/meedabyte/status/24931491926511616 | Jan 11 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @meedabyte: thanks @jmcesteves @piratepartynz @bongi_ben @schestowitz @mfoetsch for spreading the word! >> http://bit.ly/e4qVT4 #freedom #interviews | Jan 11 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | -> Title: Interviewing Glyn Moody: why we should worry about our own digital Freedom. « .::. Size~: 97.28 KB | Jan 11 20:58 |
| schestowitz | [20:36] <_Goblin> yeah...(btw sorry Im switching between machines | Jan 11 21:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <_Goblin> he's very keen and getting very involved very quickly.... | Jan 11 21:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <_Goblin> some things struck me as strange.... | Jan 11 21:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <_Goblin> 1. His eagerness to help out and support TechRights yet didn't even seem to know your name properly. | Jan 11 21:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:38] <_Goblin> 2. His movement into the site and eagerness to get on-board with techbytes | Jan 11 21:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:38] <_Goblin> 3. His "making ammends" so quickly with Gordon even though he did nothing wrong (seems to want to appeal to all people) | Jan 11 21:09 |
| schestowitz | [20:39] <_Goblin> 4. His university course which gives him the ideal opportunity to be away for protracted periods and have a reasonable excuse....a student afterall is seen as neutral and a good way to give reassurance in his devotion to helping out | Jan 11 21:09 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jan 11 21:51 |
| MinceR | hay | Jan 11 21:51 |
| schestowitz | 0/ | Jan 11 22:33 |
| schestowitz | How are you, sebsebseb? | Jan 11 22:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ok | Jan 11 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/24937845558874112 | Jan 11 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @jwildeboer: @schestowitz You did file Bugzillas or commented on existing ones? Come to #l33tm33t and we will fix it right there ;-) | Jan 11 23:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | sebsebseb: hi | Jan 11 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | qu1j0t3: hi | Jan 11 23:55 |
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