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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Standalone !Linux on PS3 Slim (27c3 demo update) http://is.gd/kkAc6Jan 08 00:06
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tessierWhat I want to know is why Broadcom took so long to open up their driversJan 08 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] getting real tired of Josh's CONSTANT interruptions on the #Engadget podcast, refuses to let ANYONE speak, and EVERYTHING is a "gamechanger"Jan 08 00:08
tessierOops...that was convo from many hours ago.Jan 08 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 2.6.36.3 and 2.6.32.28 http://lwn.net/Articles/422145/rssJan 08 00:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the GOP: Practice what you preach! Give up your own health care! http://bit.ly/ed1anZJan 08 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Government finally admits it has put too much flouride in our drinking water http://ur1.ca/2rz0mJan 08 00:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Christopher Hitchens vs Tony Blair Debate http://is.gd/kkEbB nice of B'liar to lie about Einstein's views http://is.gd/kkEuSJan 08 00:21
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61732292Jan 08 00:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Karsten Wade (quaid)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-11 00:15:21 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Argh, so annoying! Byfield's "most FOSS advocates blah blah"-nonsense. Making sweeping generalities? Show me the evidence!Jan 08 00:27
schestowitztessier: maybe Android...Jan 08 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/1/2011: Linux Foundation Expands, GTK+ 3.0 is Near http://is.gd/kkFPQ !techrightsJan 08 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 55: Spires and Bridges http://ur1.ca/2rz4qJan 08 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "VF reports that Assange threatened to sue The Guardian" http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/05/vanity-fair-profiles.htmlJan 08 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vanity Fair profiles Julian Assange: Wikileaks threatened to sue Guardian over leaked cables - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 163.32 KBJan 08 00:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Just got home and I am setting up my new HP Mini 110-1033ca with Fedora 32-bit KDE. I'm going to try Plasma Netbook!Jan 08 01:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to awesome Aló Django "After You've Gone" ( !cc download via @jamendo ) http://ur1.ca/2d3fo <i *love* these guys> while I !editJan 08 01:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @maymaym Friends, here's why you should not trust #Twitter for !privacy. ♺ @ioerror: Do not send me DMs. …my account information has ...Jan 08 01:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @maymaym Friends, here's why you should not trust #Twitter for !privacy. ♺ @ioerror: Do not send me DMs. …my account information has ...Jan 08 01:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #Guardian "US tells Twitter to hand over #WikiLeaks supporter's messages" - http://ur1.ca/2rzma @birgittajJan 08 01:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US tells Twitter to hand over WikiLeaks supporter's messages | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 92.71 KBJan 08 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @BoingBoing US subpoenas #Twitter for accounts of two Wikileaks volunteers @BirgittaJ !wikileaks !cablegate http://ur1.ca/2rzlpJan 08 01:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US subpoenas Twitter for accounts of two Wikileaks volunteers - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 21.71 KBJan 08 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher Wolf ♺ @jamesrbuk: @twitter should notify all users who've had information requests in relation to US State !wikileaks subpeonasJan 08 01:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf ♺ @dictvm: Twitter seems legally bound to hand over information. We s/b thankful they're informing the affected persons. !wlJan 08 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jimmorgan @laurelrusswurm holy pool! Time to drop Twitter again I guessJan 08 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Asher_Wolf RT @IDMclean: "Ask not for whom the web Tweets; the web Tweets to keep you FREE. http://ur1.ca/2rznt !wikileaksJan 08 01:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @calixte ♺ @xenijardin Anyone who uses Twitter for anything they don't want in a subpoena later is a fool. Don't trust anything free. !wlJan 08 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The best of #Cablegate: instances where public discourse benefited from the leaks. https://eff.org/r.w9x #Wikileaks #netfreedomJan 08 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin Not that Birgitta or Jake are fools, far from it. Just -- a word to all of you out there.... << nice recovery MadameBJan 08 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Best of Cablegate: Instances Where Public Discourse Benefited from the Leaks | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.69 KBJan 08 01:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] When Bad Patents Hurt Good People: Patent Threat Shuts Down Flight Planning Site https://eff.org/r.1wyJan 08 01:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @EFF: The best of #Cablegate: instances where public discourse benefited from the leaks. https://eff.org/r.w9x #Wikileaks #netfreedomJan 08 02:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Best of Cablegate: Instances Where Public Discourse Benefited from the Leaks | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.69 KBJan 08 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf RT @privet_bank: Think your Twitter DM is private? Think again: API access by third-parties to DMs! http://ur1.ca/2rzqbJan 08 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @eff: When Bad Patents Hurt Good People: Patent Threat Shuts Down Flight Planning Site https://eff.org/r.1wyJan 08 02:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Think your Twitter DM is private? Think again | Social Media | Macworld « VanishingPoint .::. Size~: 37.95 KBJan 08 02:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When Bad Patents Hurt Good People: Patent Threat Shuts Down Flight Planning Site  | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.37 KBJan 08 02:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Very busy week this week.....looking to Sunday for my first day off.....so much to post....Jan 08 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @birgittaj http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/08/us-twitter-hand-icelandic-wikileaks-messages !wikiLeaksJan 08 02:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US tells Twitter to hand over WikiLeaks supporter's messages | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 92.76 KBJan 08 02:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @birgittaj Birgitta Twitter not to blame - put the focus on US DoJ - will get clearer picture how to tackle this in the next few days !wlJan 08 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US demands Twitter handover private user data on WikiLeaks | Guardian http://is.gd/kkXL6 !wlJan 08 02:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  US tells Twitter to hand over WikiLeaks supporter's messages | Media | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 92.73 KBJan 08 02:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A Walled Wide Web for Nervous Autocrats http://is.gd/kkZMi #net #www #egovtJan 08 02:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer @eff: When Bad Patents Hurt Good People: Patent Threat Shuts Down Flight Planning Site https://eff.org/r.1wyJan 08 02:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @wikileaks: US demands Twitter handover private user data on WikiLeaks | Guardian http://is.gd/kkXL6 #wikileaksJan 08 02:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] US DOJ subpoenaed Twitter for !WikiLeaks volunteer Birgitta Jónsdóttir ( @birgittaj ) also Member of the Icelandic Parliament #freebradleyJan 08 02:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS: Looks like @Blekko is running off #CentOS! ( http://rww.to/haRyjp ) awesome!Jan 08 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: "VF reports that Assange threatened to sue The Guardian" http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/05/vanity-fair-profiles.htmlJan 08 02:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 US demands Twitter handover private user data on WikiLeaks | Guardian http://is.gd/kkXL6 !wlJan 08 02:23
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vanity Fair profiles Julian Assange: Wikileaks threatened to sue Guardian over leaked cables - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 163.32 KBJan 08 02:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @schestowitz: Standalone #Linux on PS3 Slim (27c3 demo update) http://is.gd/kkAc6Jan 08 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @CentOS: CentOS-6? not yet, were still looking at a couple of weeks for when its done. #centos #gnu #linuxJan 08 02:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @laurelrusswurm influenced by human pressure? sounds like a bowel movement lolJan 08 02:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @thistleweb eeeew :(Jan 08 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Picking up @opensourcegeek and driving to DUS.Jan 08 02:43
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GoForbes28have we all retired for tonight?Jan 08 02:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] Finding out if your VGA port has outs for S-video, tv, or component video is harder than expected :SJan 08 02:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] I'm not "pro-doze" btwJan 08 02:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We love volunteers who write an entire library to solve a problem without telling us, http://code.google.com/p/jtorctl2/. woo! #torJan 08 02:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Rally in Spain tomorrow: http://freewikileaks.eu/ !wlJan 08 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Rally in Spain tomorrow: http://freewikileaks.eu/ !wlJan 08 03:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ioerror If anyone from @twitter legal is reading - I confirm that I am contesting any subpoenas - I do not consent. My lawyer will call.Jan 08 03:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @evgenymorozov If the Iranian govt asked for DMs of Iranian activists, State Dept would be all over violation of "Internet freedom" !wlJan 08 03:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Jacob Appelbaum ( @ioerror ) is the other !WikiLeaks volunteer who is subject to US DOJ subpoena fir DMs !WikiLeaks !CablegateJan 08 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "I just enjoy telling people who are wrong that they're wrong. I don't make a difference, so I might as well have fun."~@reverendgreg !qJan 08 03:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] There are many WikiLeaks supporters listed in the US Twitter subpoena. !wlJan 08 03:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ioerror It appears Twitter's legal depart. is fighting a good fight- they had sealed subpoena unsealed; they disclosed it to @birgittajJan 08 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 There are many WikiLeaks supporters listed in the US Twitter subpoena. !wlJan 08 03:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @lensassaman The "don't send @ioerror &c DMs" advice is not what I'd give. 2 late 2 do anything about material covered by subpoena...Jan 08 03:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @lensassaman Better advice:"Assume whatever you send unencrypted may end up before a judge, esp. if it's stored comms." !privacy !wlJan 08 03:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @lensassaman There's still an expectation of privacy, of course. Just no guarantee. So think about what you write before you send it. !wlJan 08 03:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @birgittaj ♺ @EditorAMPM = i think it would be newsworthy if the icelandic DoJ would request similar information from usa representativesJan 08 04:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ioerror Lots of respect for @amac & rest of Twitter's legal team for getting word out; we end institutional secrecy together w/action.Jan 08 04:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New official Julian Assange defense fund ; let us see Paypal try to close this one down too! http://www.fsilaw.com/ !wlJan 08 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 New official Julian Assange defense fund ; let us see Paypal try to close this one down too! http://www.fsilaw.com/ !wlJan 08 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Düsseldorf International Airport (DUS) http://ur1.ca/2s0oo #4sqJan 08 04:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[point/@point] Es mi impresión o http://www.fsilaw.com/ está siendo victima de un #DDOS? !wlJan 08 04:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: New official Julian Assange defense fund ; let us see Paypal try to close this one down too! ht... http://tinyurl.com/2b8nht5Jan 08 04:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: There are many WikiLeaks supporters listed in the US Twitter subpoena. http://tinyurl.com/2emtbgyJan 08 04:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Jezabeldiablo ...the only entity that can guarantee confidentiality in the face of a subpoena is a lawyer. Diaries can be subpoenaed !wlJan 08 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Got an arduino yesterday, anyone have any cool ideas for stuff to do with it, without any other shields?Jan 08 04:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @laurelrusswurm my brothers and I went as the french knights in 09, it was fun =PJan 08 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I can imagine. :DJan 08 04:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald Have copy of the court-ordered DOJ subpoena served on Twitter - up in a minute - names several WikiLeaks-related individuals.Jan 08 04:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @DanielEllsberg No US law could criminalize !wikileaks/Assange that wouldn’t apply exactly to publisher of @nytimes or to Bob WoodwardJan 08 04:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Birgittaj USA gov't wants to know abt all my tweets & more since Nov. 1st 2009. do they realize i am a member of Parliament in Iceland?Jan 08 04:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald On the DOJ subpoena served on Twitter 4 WikiLeaks users, w/links to Subpoena and court's unsealing order http://ur1.ca/2s0w8Jan 08 04:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DOJ subpoeans Twitter records of numerous WikiLeaks volunteers - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 71.15 KBJan 08 04:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US govt secret subpoena for Julian Assange, WikiLeaks & supporters, full text http://is.gd/klq3r !wlJan 08 05:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Glenn Greenwald's Salon piece: "DOJ subpoeans Twitter records of numerous WikiLeaks volunteers" http://ur1.ca/2s0w8 < excellent as alwaysJan 08 05:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DOJ subpoeans Twitter records of numerous WikiLeaks volunteers - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 71.15 KBJan 08 05:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] DOJ target Birgitta Jónsdóttir "a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee [Iceland's Parliament] & NATO parliamentary assembly," !WikiLeaksJan 08 05:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Sitting alone in a dark house at 6:00 with the gf fast asleep. Time for some Dragon Age with headphones on, I think.Jan 08 05:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What does is US Gov't & DOJ trying to accomplish re: !WikiLeaks ... to punish people who exposed bad behaviour and CRIME. #freeBradleyJan 08 05:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Have the soldiers who gunned down those civilians and those reporters been punished? Served a day in the brig? #freeBradleyJan 08 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !wikiLeaks Only the guy ALLEGED to have leaked evidence of crime has served time. And not just any "time" but torturous time. #freebradleyJan 08 05:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] GameTree Linux Is Trying To Be Its Own Steam-Like Platform: This morning we reported on the soft announcement th... http://bit.ly/fXb7yAJan 08 05:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ioerror It appears that the subpoena has leaked: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/07/twitter/index.html !wlJan 08 05:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @pirateparty NZ PIRATE PARTY MEMBERS FACING POLITICAL REPRESSION IN TUNISIA: http://ur1.ca/2s114 #free 3 PartiPirate #Tunisie membersJan 08 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Parti Pirate Tunisie members POLICE warrantless Kidnapping: Slah Eddin Kchouk, Azyz Ammami & Slim Ammamou, #CivilRights http://ur1.ca/2s114Jan 08 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Note that we can assume Google & Facebook also have secret US government subpeonas. They make no comment. Did they fold? !wlJan 08 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Note that we can assume Google & Facebook also have secret US government subpeonas. They make no comment. Did they fold? !wlJan 08 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @cwebber #CCLabs License short name/identifier now on !CC deeds: http://ur1.ca/2s135Jan 08 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Hey !fedora developers! Got an idea for students to work on this summer? add it to our GSoC 2011 ideas page! http://ur1.ca/2s157Jan 08 05:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] A pair of new blag posts: ur1.ca/2s14g and http://rix.si/index.php/$dayjob_2011_resolutions:_Ryan_Rix_editionJan 08 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @PstTnse "They Don't Show the Tourists This" Vancouver News-Herald, 7 November 1941. #Vancouver #history http://twitpic.com/3o0xv0Jan 08 05:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $dayjob 2011 resolutions: Ryan Rix edition - rrix@TheStaff .::. Size~: 11.04 KBJan 08 05:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @CopyrightLaw “TechDirt: Son Of !ACTA (But Worse): Meet TPP, The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement” http://ur1.ca/2s156 !copyrightJan 08 05:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin • What other online services hv been subpoenaed? Have turned over data? Twitter didn't have to notify acct holders, but did.Jan 08 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] CNET on Twitter subpeona http://alturl.com/a6sen !wlJan 08 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin• Have similar demands been made of financial service providers such as Mastercard, Visa, and Paypal? What about Amazon? !wlJan 08 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @EditorAMPM @laurelrusswurm @birgittaj They'd get more truth from !WL than from any USA formal releases. The fudge bar would be maxed outJan 08 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Isn't it interesting that this all came down on Friday Night after the DOJ was closed for the weekend? !wikiLeaks !Cablegate #abuseofpowerJan 08 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Guardian on DOJ subpoena story: "The justice department did not returns calls seeking comment last night." http://ur1.ca/2rzmaJan 08 06:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @TheJusticeDept : January is National Stalking Awareness Month. http://www.usdoj.gov/ovw >> so why are you stalking !WikiLeaks? Bad DOJJan 08 06:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf RT @_x4o: The US DOJ is on twitter ---->> @TheJusticeDept -->> is a verified accountJan 08 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻@laurelrusswurm:rt@CopyrightLaw “TechDirt: Son Of ACTA (But Worse): Meet TPP, The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement” http://ur1.ca/2s156Jan 08 06:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @jwildeboer yes it is does not say gpl or bsd but is freedom enabled for all ends and purposes. imho.Jan 08 06:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald @ioerror Just so you know: the Order doesn't incl. #Twitter content (i.e. tweets or DMs) "only" all other records !wikiLeaksJan 08 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @by Asher_Wolf ♺ @WLLegal Stored Communications Act (1986) as outdated as Espionage Act (when email still almost non-existent.) !wlJan 08 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Asher_Wolf ♺ @rop_g: blogged: US DOJ subpoenas my #Twitter account info http://rop.gonggri.jp/?p=442 !wikiLeaks !CablegateJan 08 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "Heaven knows how many places have rec'ved similar subpoenas and just quietly submitted all they had on me."~ @rop_g http://ur1.ca/2s1gv !wlJan 08 06:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @calixte Let's use DoJ #subpoena of Twitter re: @birgittaj 2 lobby 4 a strong data protection agreement http://bit.ly/dTSZZs !wikileaksJan 08 06:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @WiderScreenings John Holmes - porn legend! new bio & filmography - "A Life Measured in Inches"http://tinyurl.com/32ysude (book review)Jan 08 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @crime_minister @laurelrusswurm @calixte @xenijardin Want Twitter + privacy? Run local instance of #StatusNet 4 U & UR peeps <viaTwitterJan 08 06:56
amarsh04hi, oiaohm... just been having fun with git-bisect on a radeon problem - it had a local minima (false positive on a commit that later was reverted)Jan 08 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some time in ~4 days I will have submitted 8,000 articles to Digg... :-D http://digg.com/schestowitzJan 08 07:00
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oiaohmamarsh04: the super fun of bugs.Jan 08 07:03
amarsh04it shows that what I learned in applied mathematics optimisation (binary searches and the like) still comes in handyJan 08 07:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @s_nunn ♺ @bahaiway IPW: Three Baha’is, jailed for humanitarian work, begin fourth year in detention http://ur1.ca/2s1p5 #bahaiJan 08 07:08
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amarsh04this motherboard is "fun" also... it has a 40 GB drive that can be recognised by the BIOS as 32 GiB, but the 320 GB drive can only be recognised by the BIOS as 8.3 GB, so I have a /boot partition in the first 8.3 GB of that diskJan 08 07:08
amarsh04I could have used GRUB's ata.mod but it's slower than BIOS readsJan 08 07:09
amarsh04there was an ex-Iranian Baha'i at uni when I was studying in the early 1980's... understandable that many/most tried to leaveJan 08 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin The PR firm that now reportedly represents Julian #Assange also reps the #Chippendales and the #SpiceGirls > breaking news :DJan 08 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Inkscape? moar liek pinkscape, amirite?Jan 08 07:11
oiaohmamarsh04: Ok what is wrong with Grub ata mode since if it was working right should run rings round the  BIOS reads?  Is it init time?Jan 08 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Now out: #Linux #longterm #kernel 2.6.32.28 http://bit.ly/gPWCHI and #stable #kernel 2.6.36.3 http://bit.ly/eI9NZoJan 08 07:16
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amarsh04oiaohm, it was slow last time tried it (reading /boot). I could re-enable it and try again.Jan 08 07:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla Open Data Competition – Winners To Be Announced on Jan. 11 http://is.gd/klLrHJan 08 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia seems to be having an https certificate problem. Firefox denies access to it, which is a shame cause there's news http://is.gd/klM8jJan 08 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Oh, Rio Grande do Sul sem nenhuma nuvem... Continua o tempo seco... http://ur1.ca/2s1teJan 08 07:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Quem consegue conversas com voz no Gtalk/Linux ??? Eu ainda não consegui... :-(Jan 08 07:31
twitterAfter a week of KDE 4 use at work, I'm frustrated.Jan 08 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Feicebuqui só tem alguma utilidade com a atualização de status, que foi um recurso chupado do Tuíter...Jan 08 07:35
twitterI can forgive much of the reduced functionality based on promises of better things to come, but there are some things that I just don't like and have read that they are deliberate.Jan 08 07:35
twitterlike the removal of the media slave.Jan 08 07:36
twitteror the move away from stand alone applications like the kickerJan 08 07:36
amarsh04my hope is that Trinity (which can be installed at the same time as KDE 4.X) will gain support and be included in distrosJan 08 07:36
twitterI've replaced kicker with gnome-panel, but the functionality is still lostJan 08 07:37
twitterKDE3 can be installed along side of KDE4 in theory, but I'm not sure how to do it practically with Debian.Jan 08 07:37
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twitterThe move to DBus was pushed by ACPI, I think, and that's part of a broader attack on the simplicity of Unix.Jan 08 07:38
twitterI simply hate "places"  it's so Windows like.Jan 08 07:39
twitterI've got "places" in my computer that are hard drives with ill defined mount points. ... hmph.Jan 08 07:40
amarsh04I like to know where everything *is*Jan 08 07:40
twitterto mount things, I have to be running plasma, start dolphin, run gnome or run nautilus --no-desktop, of do it by hand, ick.Jan 08 07:42
twitterwhat a complicated messJan 08 07:42
twitterKonq 3's media slave was easier and I knew that everything would go to /mediaJan 08 07:42
twitterI could do everything from Konqueror - browse, mount and manage files.Jan 08 07:43
twitternow I have to pull open a special application to mount.  I might as well use on of the several terminal emulators and forget about it.Jan 08 07:43
twitterThe loss of tree view in konqueror and dolphin also sucksJan 08 07:44
twitterit's like a step back in time to Windows 95 or KrusaderJan 08 07:45
twitterTree views made a lot of things easier to seeJan 08 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @toros How to write good code: http://goo.gl/26vsy < how trueJan 08 07:46
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twitterthe column view is idiotic when users had split screens and tree viewsJan 08 07:46
twitterSqueeze's move to unique identifiers for mounted media is also a pain.Jan 08 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Prakash Advani: #ARM processors have a lead over x86Jan 08 07:48
twitterIt was very nice to be able to copy a working gnu/linux system to a thumb drive or another disk and know that it would just work..  Now grub looks to see that it is on one and only media in the world it was installed on.Jan 08 07:48
twitterMy favorite image viewer in the world, gqview, was broken too.Jan 08 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer] Let's see if S&P, Moodys etc now change the ratings on the USofA after Geithners talk.. they are focused on bringing EUR downJan 08 07:50
twitterSqueeze moves to geequi which is ok except it removed the easy to edit right click menu in favor of .desktop filesJan 08 07:50
twitterI quickly downgraded that one back to Lenny, but that will make apt-get update, apt-get upgrade painfulJan 08 07:51
twitterFinally, KOffice is no longer snappy and responsive.Jan 08 07:51
twitterThe new version of KWord, for example, is slower than Open Office.  Open Office is a lot faster on my new computer but that might be because my new computer is four times faster than my old one.  KWord should be faster still.Jan 08 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @hypatiadotca RT @rop_g: For all these people that were asking: this kind of thing is why people run their own mail servers. Get it now?Jan 08 07:53
twitterI'm going to bang my head against these problems for a few more weeks but I'm leaning towards a Lenny install with Squeeze in a VM.Jan 08 07:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Bradley Manning is fighting for his sanity http://is.gd/klQfs he is also UK citizen.British prime minister Cameron,Clegg, _do something_Jan 08 07:55
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amarsh04I've just held back KDE at 3.5.9/10 and run unstable/experimental otherwiseJan 08 07:55
amarsh04kpdf is quicker to use than Okular, for instanceJan 08 07:55
twitteryes, kpdf is much nicer than OkularJan 08 07:56
twitterokular wastes a lot of screen space on the side too.Jan 08 07:56
amarsh04search for text in kpdf is greatJan 08 07:56
amarsh04still using the PII-266 with 384 MiB of RAM hereJan 08 07:57
twitteryes, kpdf rocked like thatJan 08 07:57
amarsh04a slow computer is helpful in finding inefficiencies in codeJan 08 07:57
twitterperhaps I'll get used to things but right now KDE 4 seems like a lot more work for a little gain in eye candy.Jan 08 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer "IP-Terrorism" would further cheapen the word terrorism //cc @glynmoodyJan 08 08:00
twitterheh, ESR predicted that M$ would try to associate GNU/Linux with terrorism and crime.Jan 08 08:00
schestowitzisn't plasma-netbook a lot lighter?Jan 08 08:00
amarsh04I'd like the KDE folk to actually run their new fangled stuff on a machine with completely free graphics - I think some of the "works fine here" is due to using proprietary graphics driversJan 08 08:01
twitterI don't know.  Plasma works OK on netbooks.  that's not where the problem really is.Jan 08 08:01
twitterI use completely free graphics and it is OK.Jan 08 08:02
twitterbut that limits you to Intel as far as I know.Jan 08 08:02
schestowitzyes, hardly any reason anymore to use blobs, except gamesJan 08 08:02
DaemonFCor not wanting the fan to run at 100% at all timesJan 08 08:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @fabsh Totally love how easy it is to install WordPress plugins. // used to be done by hand when I started using it (2004)Jan 08 08:03
DaemonFCthere's no fan control at all for RadeonHD 5xxx and 6xxx series cards, so they just default to running at 100%Jan 08 08:04
DaemonFCit sounds like a airplane taking off until you install CatalystJan 08 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Synaptic and PackageKit shoud be renamed to Linux AppStore ASAP :-) //did you forget what Canonical/Ubuntu does?Jan 08 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz @glynmoody hey, how about Extreme Intellectual Protectionism?Jan 08 08:05
DaemonFCI have an idea that Synaptic will be disappeared very soon from UbuntuJan 08 08:06
DaemonFCthey're becoming more like Linspire and less like Debian in every releaseJan 08 08:06
amarsh04I still have hope for the free radeon drivers... Dave Airlie gave me a hand with a git bisectJan 08 08:06
*amarsh04 likes the fine-grained control of aptitude anywayJan 08 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer In a similar situation, Greece, Irland, Portugal get downratings.US ofcourse stays at AAA #strangeNewWorld http://ur1.ca/2rqceJan 08 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When a country ranks itself triple-A everything I can't help thinking about teachers who help kids cheat or make exams easier, for illusionsJan 08 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @lxoliva i like it. EIF vs EIP /cc @glynmoodyJan 08 08:06
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twitternetwork manager seems to work but it is yet more hidden complexityJan 08 08:07
DaemonFCaptitude is gone, they've hidden the link that takes you right to software sourcesJan 08 08:07
twitterso is "configurationless" xorgJan 08 08:07
DaemonFCnext on their hitlist will be Synaptic as soon as Synaptic Retarded Edition has a few more tweaksJan 08 08:07
DaemonFC(Software Center)Jan 08 08:07
amarsh04that's what I like about Debian "want to access the source and the plumbing for how it all works, go right ahead"Jan 08 08:08
twitteryes but they have imported a lot of complex plumbing recentlyJan 08 08:08
DaemonFCI still prefer to tweak my software sources by editing the text file(s) directlyJan 08 08:08
twittersurely ubuntu has apt stillJan 08 08:08
DaemonFCsuch as the .repo files in Fedora or sources.list in Debian/UbuntuJan 08 08:08
twittersimple text file configuration, imagine that!Jan 08 08:09
DaemonFCthe graphical frontends tend to be flaky, especially with KPackageKitJan 08 08:09
DaemonFCit likes to get itself jammed up when you enable or disable reposJan 08 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wunderkind Geithner appears to have become some sort of PR rep for the US economy. What's the use? If he also helps his former colleagues...Jan 08 08:10
amarsh04to give another example, I could register quickly (just an automated email confirmation) and update an entry on a Debian wiki, and no javascript was neededJan 08 08:10
DaemonFCwell, I think the reason for Software Center is to help them blur the lines between what's free and nonfreeJan 08 08:11
twitterMigration was mostly painless, to give KDE 4 some credit.Jan 08 08:11
DaemonFCand also to help them trick you into clicking on stuff that happens to be for sale once you bring up the descriptionJan 08 08:11
Diablo-D3dudeJan 08 08:11
Diablo-D3hes not wunderkindJan 08 08:11
Diablo-D3he was NOT born on the moonJan 08 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jezra she said `I would have married you 8 years ago, but you always said "Hello Clarice" is such a creepy way.` hell of a thursday nightJan 08 08:11
Diablo-D3[03:05:39] <amarsh04> I still have hope for the free radeon drivers... Dave Airlie gave me a hand with a git bisectJan 08 08:12
Diablo-D3I still have hopeJan 08 08:12
Diablo-D3AMD IS FUCKING CODING THEMJan 08 08:12
DaemonFCI'm not holding out a lot of hopeJan 08 08:12
twitterit would be niceJan 08 08:13
DaemonFCCatalyst not only smokes the free drivers, even on old hardware, it fully supports the latest OpenGL standards, which the free drivers don'tJan 08 08:13
twitterI've always preferred AMD for number crunching and performance per wattJan 08 08:13
DaemonFCif you want to be stuck at 1/4th the speed with nothing beyond OpenGL 2.1, the free drivers may workJan 08 08:13
DaemonFCif you have old cardsJan 08 08:13
DaemonFCnow they're saying they can't implement OpenGL 3 because parts of it are patent-encumberedJan 08 08:14
Diablo-D3hehJan 08 08:14
Diablo-D3AMD GPUs have mad integer performanceJan 08 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yearning for when things were simple [IMG] http://is.gd/klTp6Jan 08 08:15
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twittergood multi processor, 64 bits, etc.Jan 08 08:15
twitterAMD has rocked for a long timeJan 08 08:15
twitterbut ... no free accelerated graphics?  sad state.Jan 08 08:15
Diablo-D3its not a sad state at allJan 08 08:16
Diablo-D3AMD has paid about $2m thus far to make free radeon driversJan 08 08:16
twitterdo they work?Jan 08 08:16
Diablo-D3the hardest part was clearing the specifications for IP through laywersJan 08 08:16
Diablo-D3since ATI were dumbfucksJan 08 08:16
Diablo-D3they are in the process of working, imoJan 08 08:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Split Single Lossless Audio Files To Flac Or mp3 Using A Nautilus Script http://bit.ly/hOmW3NJan 08 08:16
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Diablo-D3the biggest power behind gallium is AMDJan 08 08:16
twitteragree, ATI were dumbfucksJan 08 08:16
Diablo-D3it wouldnt exist without AMD imoJan 08 08:17
Diablo-D3and its funnyJan 08 08:17
Diablo-D3gallium is actually pretty simpleJan 08 08:17
Diablo-D3it connects the state tracker inside your stuff (mesa gl, mesa cl, X exa, etc etc) to the state tracker in the hardware (assuming it has one)Jan 08 08:18
Diablo-D3the hard part is making a fully generic everything that works on a wide range of hardwareJan 08 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody ODF plugfest UK - http://bit.ly/i7vrsB "goal is to achieve maximum interoperability by running scenario-based tests" #odfJan 08 08:20
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oiaohmReally what AMD did to release open source drivers they would have todo to know where there patent risks were and to keep on developing.  Diablo-D3Jan 08 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] !Fedora Ambassador meeting in !Beijing: http://is.gd/klUwe If you are interested, join us.Jan 08 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer "Evening news is where they begin with 'good evening' and then proceed to tell you why it isn't." http://9gag.com/gag/62884/Jan 08 08:21
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oiaohmSo you could call it part self interest.Jan 08 08:22
Diablo-D3oiaohm: jesus christ manJan 08 08:23
Diablo-D3your english is failJan 08 08:23
Diablo-D3oiaohm: and its not about "patent risks"Jan 08 08:23
Diablo-D3its about patent risks from technology they would have never licensed to begin withJan 08 08:23
Diablo-D3and ATI had sloppy IP accountingJan 08 08:24
twitterit's time for me to nap.  gnJan 08 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz having the word "gag" in the URL is poetic :DJan 08 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] But I think I've come to the end of play for the day. Good night !IdentiVerseJan 08 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay FOSS needs branding help for sure! ♻ @jwildeboer Synaptic and PackageKit shoud be renamed to Linux AppStore ASAP :-) #fbJan 08 08:26
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61749952Jan 08 08:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Bruce Lee (brucelee)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-11 08:19:23 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I saw many countries do that one.. and many people response I got (positive and negative)Jan 08 08:27
schestowitzThere's a fake bruce lee in identica now...Jan 08 08:27
Diablo-D3yeah I thought he was deadJan 08 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @harishpillay @jwildeboer branding without advertising (like Apple's selling of "be better than everyone" delusion) won't workJan 08 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz ♺ @harishpillay FOSS needs branding help for sure! ♻ @jwildeboer Synaptic and PackageKit shoud be renamed to Linux AppSt ...Jan 08 08:28
schestowitzhe was recarnatedJan 08 08:28
oiaohmDo you know how many cross licensing agreements is in Video card development.   Diablo-D3  Stacks.   Due to cross licensing between ATI NVIDIA S3 and others.  They were licensed. Diablo-D3Jan 08 08:28
Diablo-D3oiaohm: a lot.Jan 08 08:28
Diablo-D3but the problem is ATI failed at properly notating thisJan 08 08:29
Diablo-D3so AMD had to spend a lot of fucking money to make sure handing this specification document to the X/Mesa/Gallium guys wouldnt fuck themJan 08 08:29
amarsh04schestowitz, I found that pino as an identi.ca client had about 15 MiB non-share RAM and so didn't meet my definition of "lightweight". Unfortunately identicurses isn't in Debian so I'll probably build it myself from sourceJan 08 08:29
oiaohmYes ATI was sloppy.  Diablo-D3.    This also means ATI was most likely not making advantage of the IP they had.  Also not knowing what sections depending on IP from others to talk dollers.Jan 08 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @schestowitz needs a different approach; Open Marketing. Kinda what Amway does, but in a more transparent way ;-)Jan 08 08:30
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, and AMD is very fucking strict about this shitJan 08 08:30
oiaohmSo AMD had to do the Audit any how.Jan 08 08:30
Diablo-D3oiaohm: ergo, about of year in lawyer timeJan 08 08:30
Diablo-D3and thats expensiveJan 08 08:30
Diablo-D3and no, they didnt HAVE to do itJan 08 08:30
Diablo-D3they're slowly getting rid of any part of radeons that arent AMD originatedJan 08 08:30
Diablo-D3everything was under NDAs and thick licensing agreements, they didnt HAVE to audit itJan 08 08:31
Diablo-D3they're simply not interested in outside technology if they can get away with itJan 08 08:31
oiaohmWhat happens when Radeons don't need the tech from the others.  Diablo-D3Jan 08 08:32
Diablo-D3when AMD no longer needs outside tech for Radeons... this is IP bliss.Jan 08 08:32
oiaohmAnd means AMD can now uses its IP against the other makers.Jan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3yes, and AMD is pro-open sourceJan 08 08:33
oiaohmSo all the legal time might pay off in the end.Jan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3they're possibly the most pro open source company atmJan 08 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺@jwildeboer Journalists using google mail have a long way t go b4 they can offer protection to their anonymous sources. Just sayin' // +1Jan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3oiaohm: the big thing is, they dont want to maintain linux driversJan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3they're not a software companyJan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3and they cant just get rid of fglrxJan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3soJan 08 08:33
Diablo-D3they're spending a shitload of money just to make linux do itJan 08 08:34
oiaohmAnd having open source drivers with open docs out there.  Also means IP holders can not claim they could not see it because it was hidden.Jan 08 08:34
oiaohmSo try to go for multipided damages either.Jan 08 08:34
oiaohmIs killed as well.Jan 08 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The other day I spoke to a full-time Java programmer who didn't know Oracle owned Java. Living under a rock?Jan 08 08:35
oiaohmBasically AMD is doing a patent defence.Jan 08 08:35
Diablo-D3oiaohm: dudeJan 08 08:35
Diablo-D3cant you just accept AMD is not being a dick here by giving us the best drivers possible?Jan 08 08:35
oiaohmI do except that.  But it will be long term gain to AMD.Jan 08 08:36
oiaohmon many fronts.Jan 08 08:36
Diablo-D3yes, not being dicks and getting sales because they're not dicks IS a long term gainJan 08 08:36
Diablo-D3nvidia on linux is now deadJan 08 08:36
oiaohmYou don't do stuff in business that is expesnive such as a legal audit.  Unless there is payback.Jan 08 08:37
oiaohmAnd for AMD with Raedons there is many many ways it pays back.Jan 08 08:38
oiaohmWhat makes you wonder why companies are so determined to be closed source for.Jan 08 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @gbraad preparing a presentation for the monthly #MeeGo meeting in #Beijing. about running MeeGo (and #Fedora) on !ARM-based hardware.Jan 08 08:38
Diablo-D3oiaohm: not having to deal with linux issues is worth itJan 08 08:39
oiaohmHaving something to bash patent attackers over the head with is also worth it.  Also knowing when you can stop paying other companies patent fees is also worth it.Jan 08 08:40
oiaohmSo AMD short time cost longterm gains should be greater.Jan 08 08:41
*Diablo-D3 just lights oiaohm on fireJan 08 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dibert nails it on #FogComputing hype http://dilbert.com/2011-01-07Jan 08 08:41
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oiaohmDiablo-D3: really some of the stupid things here.  Take S3 when was the last time you when to get a S3 card.  Yet Via gets payed for S3 patents by Nvidia ATI and Intel.Jan 08 08:43
oiaohmAnd that is only 1 example of a basically dead video card in market getting quite a decent income because they hold patents others are using.Jan 08 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @schestowitz Dibert nails it on #FogComputing hype http://dilbert.com/2011-01-07Jan 08 08:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Victims of real pirates out to shame those who misuse the word (MPAA/BSA/RIAA/BPI/etc) along the lines ofJan 08 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Republicans attempt to stifle action on climate change http://is.gd/klYFK Big oil gives GOP powerJan 08 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FogComputing is when you decide it's better to install software on your mate's machine cause he has SSH access and external HDD for backupJan 08 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @schestowitz Dibert nails it on #FogComputing hype http://dilbert.com/2011-01-07Jan 08 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @harishpillay RT @jwildeboer IMHO Apple MacOS App store = (Linux package managers - freedom - openness) * DRMJan 08 08:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vanbroup/status/23661372902473728  https://twitter.com/rdalverny/status/23661346755186688Jan 08 08:57
TechrightsBot-tr@vanbroup: @schestowitz @mageia_org Check this to solve your https ssl certificate problem: http://j.mp/h7JYts #mageiaJan 08 08:57
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TechrightsBot-tr@rdalverny: @schestowitz it's just a self-signed certificate for the time being; we'll put a paid-for one this month.Jan 08 08:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rdalverny/status/23662410627809280Jan 08 08:58
TechrightsBot-tr@rdalverny: @vanbroup Thx for the link. Cc @schestowitzJan 08 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You know whose interests are served by corporate media when #ARM computing and 'app store' get highlighted w/o any mention of !GNU !LinuxJan 08 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @shiny XO-1.75 Laptop Innovation: !OLPC Goes !ARM and Touchscreen! - http://ur1.ca/2s2azJan 08 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @BernardKeane: Between torture of Gulet Mohamed and WL Twitter subpoena, Obama admin appears entirely indistinguishable from Bush'sJan 08 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android Users Now Outnumber #iPhone Users In U.S http://is.gd/km0tA practicality beats hype. #hypePhone !linuxJan 08 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seeing ACTA, twitter subpoena, wikileaks, Manning treatment by US - Is that the change Obama promised? #FAILJan 08 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer BTW - you cannot buy widgets in MacOS App store. How strange is that? And design - ummm http://is.gd/km0PpJan 08 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm @wildcard :D I think @yokoono is simply awesome ... that she hasn't burnt out & remains so upbeat is an inspirationJan 08 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer ...evernote loses notes. The cloud is full of surprises. http://status.evernote.com/ /but Jan, RHT hypes it too. #FogComputingJan 08 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Not every service on the internet is Cloud IMHO. Evernote, Hotmail claim cloud but are normal hosting services.Jan 08 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz BTW - biggest news on OLPC-XO1.75 is IMHO that is has a touchscreen! Linux powered iPad for Kids at 165 USD so to say!Jan 08 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Only Apple can sell you power adaptors. MagSafe patents not up for licensing. FRAND at its best :-) http://ur1.ca/2s2i8Jan 08 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer why do you insult the #OLPC by comparing it to a toy (hypePad)?Jan 08 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz OLPC thought about tablet, touchscreen long before Apple thought about iPad. And now OLPC can deliver. MeLikes.Jan 08 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Right to free use of sound recordings in student bars removed. http://is.gd/km2Fg they should play CC music. Some EU-based clubs do this.Jan 08 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer the idea goes back to very old syfy filmsJan 08 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz I think 2001 - a space odyssey from 1968 was the first time I saw that idea. But I guess there are older movies.Jan 08 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody re "Decoding Nick Clegg" > exceptionalism becomes popular in the UK, kind of like in the USJan 08 09:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, Banshee as default landed in the latest Ubuntu daily CDJan 08 09:28
DaemonFCRhythmbox is not thereJan 08 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz http://www.imdb.com/media/rm110467072/tt0062622 two pads on the table here. #2001Jan 08 09:30
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DaemonFCit offers you a free MP3 plugin, but the first time you try to load an AAC or WMA it asks you to buy a patent license (Fluendo)Jan 08 09:30
DaemonFCand opens up the Ubuntu storeJan 08 09:30
DaemonFCit's awfully clear that since libimobiledevice is there by default, they're trying to lure in hypedevice usersJan 08 09:31
DaemonFCbut the funny thing is it can't even play AAC until you buy the plug-inJan 08 09:31
DaemonFC:DJan 08 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz WTF! Clarke even called it Newspad in his book! http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/02/arthur-c-clarks-2001.htmlJan 08 09:31
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DaemonFCI think the media players in KDE got it pretty much right, they tend to show your portable device as a mounted file system and let you drag and dropJan 08 09:33
DaemonFCI didn't like how Banshee represented my Sansa at allJan 08 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody since you brought up #microfinance in the context of robber barons,see http://is.gd/km3o4 microfinance to money=Microsoft to lifeJan 08 09:33
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DaemonFCit didn't tell me how much space I had on the device or card, it blurred them into the total amount of storage between them and then tried representing the space as a color coded bar representing file typesJan 08 09:34
DaemonFCif you use Banshee you have no control whatsoever where your files end upJan 08 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer so Space Odyssey *DID* participate in the OLPC pilot!Jan 08 09:35
DaemonFCas soon as you plug a Sansa in and try to use Banshee to put files on it, it forces the device into Microsoft's Media Transfer Protocol mode instead of Mass Storage ClassJan 08 09:37
DaemonFCso there's no way you can ever view those files in most other file managers or media playersJan 08 09:38
DaemonFCI'm going to laugh when people actually start getting taken by surprise and find out that Banshee has essentially corrupted their storage and they need to format itJan 08 09:39
schestowitzhttp://www.techeye.net/hardware/the-holy-book-of-nintendo-and-the-beesJan 08 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] #WebUpd8: !Ubuntu 11.04 Updates: #Banshee Default, New Grub Background, AppMenu Changes [Screenshots & Video] http://goo.gl/MWbIjJan 08 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG !Ubuntu: Magic scheduler patch coming to your #Natty desktop? http://goo.gl/zDUwVJan 08 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The subpoena v @birgittaj, @ioerror, Assange and Gongrijp - read and get it here http://ur1.ca/2s2nl via @ggreenwaldJan 08 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Short timeline: Subpoena issued 2009-12-14 as sealed, 2010-01-05 unsealed at twitters request. So thanks to twitter, shame on DoJ #wlJan 08 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Here is @ggreenwald on the subpoena stuff. Best and most detailed description AFAICS. http://ur1.ca/2s0w8Jan 08 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: CNET on Twitter subpeona http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20027893-281.html http://tinyurl.com/2fm3mjcJan 08 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Note that we can assume Google & Facebook also have secret US government subpeonas. They make ... http://tinyurl.com/2a36kk2Jan 08 09:51
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DaemonFCI wonder if Catalyst actually works in 11.04 or if they're just blindly packaging itJan 08 09:52
DaemonFCUbuntu has been known to get unreleased drivers from ATIJan 08 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] ♺ @owni: [#ownilive] #Wikileaks : la justice américaine enquête sur une députée islandaise http://bit.ly/gyVlkp !wl !wikileaksJan 08 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Twitter Informs Users Of DOJ WikiLeaks Court Order, Didn’t Have To - http://tcrn.ch/hWFnRq kudos to #twitter for doing so #wikileaksJan 08 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @wikileaks: Note that we can assume Google & Facebook also have secret US government subpeonas. They make ... http://tinyurl.com/2a36kk2Jan 08 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US DOJ subpoenas my twitter account info - http://bit.ly/eHSwle someone else with the same problemJan 08 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Julian Assange hires PR team - http://bit.ly/hfsF6l shrewd move #assange #wikileaks #prJan 08 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] @schestowitz way to remind me of my failings. Actually, she told me twice, and alcohol was involved so it wasn't too much of a heartstabJan 08 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Wow! Silencing is a new illusion that shows it's hard to notice when moving objects change. http://visionlab.harvard.edu/silencing/ #fbJan 08 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biggest Ever BitTorrent Piracy Settlement is Intriguing - http://bit.ly/iij0zw interesting details #bittorrent #copyrightJan 08 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Soundcities Lets You Remix the World - http://rww.to/hj4yvv "open-source, crowdsourced database of found city-sounds and maps": coolJan 08 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Kudos to twitter for getting the subpoena unsealed. Raises Q how many other corps obliged in secret? #wlJan 08 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And you still think all these privacy invading law changes are solely used for anti-terrorism? Think again. #wlJan 08 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Should Dolphins Be Treated As Non-Human Persons? - http://bit.ly/gu7HTQ course #dolphins #ethicsJan 08 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If you open source an old market, are you doomed to fail? - http://bit.ly/erpPtJ no, just doomed to make less money than you thoughtJan 08 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Whatever.Jan 08 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody Also Bradley Manning and Julian Assange - but no twitter account names for them in subpoena.Jan 08 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] early draft open source hardware package specification - http://bit.ly/fhEocp good start (v @kanzure @harkopen) #openhardwareJan 08 10:23
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DaemonFCthe new Audacious interface has grown on meJan 08 10:26
*DaemonFC thought he'd hate it at firstJan 08 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Politics of #Fear - http://bit.ly/fjBPXa Tony Blair's most enduring legacy #terror #authoritarianism #surveillanceJan 08 10:28
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DaemonFCNorsefire anyone?Jan 08 10:32
DaemonFC:)Jan 08 10:32
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NorsefireJan 08 10:32
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DaemonFCschestowitz, More IE 8 goodnessJan 08 10:34
DaemonFChttp://www.in.gov/legislative/senate_republicans/5680.htmJan 08 10:34
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DaemonFCheheJan 08 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Intel Insider #DRM Risks Monopoly Investigations http://ur1.ca/2s2z3Jan 08 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Arm Release 1.4.1: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/arm-release-141Jan 08 10:38
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DaemonFCWould you support or oppose a state budget that prioritizes education, but due to the recession, may have to flat-line school funding at current levels?Jan 08 10:40
DaemonFCI would support a plan that rescinds corporate welfare/legal tax evasion for the rich and redirects the funding to education.Jan 08 10:40
DaemonFCI would also like to know how many cutbacks have been made to the education of children of upper management of companies receiving said corporate welfare.Jan 08 10:40
DaemonFC---Jan 08 10:40
DaemonFCActually I'd prefer the Republicans quit pissing on the working class and telling us it's raining, is that possible? -RyanJan 08 10:40
DaemonFC:PJan 08 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What Is Happening to Technology Reporting these Days? http://ur1.ca/2s30b #journalismJan 08 10:41
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DaemonFCthere's all kinds of deductions that most people qualify for but never take because the forms are intentionally complicatedJan 08 10:44
DaemonFCso the state puts out ones that are comprehensible called EZ forms which omit all the really juicy things you can itemizeJan 08 10:44
DaemonFCthat's what they bet on people who can't pay to have their taxes done professionally usingJan 08 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Rewe - Heerstraße http://ur1.ca/2s312 #4sqJan 08 10:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] You have to give some respect points to twitter for their handling of the subpoena. http://ur1.ca/2s2cvJan 08 10:46
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DaemonFCso every year when my taxes come due I end up in the old Chinese Hell of Paperwork trying to itemize everything I can so the government doesn't just get to keep an extra $50 or so and not tell me it's mineJan 08 10:46
DaemonFC:PJan 08 10:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, Tax time is the worst thing to go through all year and if it's not postmarked in time, you start getting penalties attachedJan 08 10:47
*DaemonFC is probably on some kind of watch list because every year he mails his returns to the Infernal Revenue Service with an upside down flag stamp on the envelope :PJan 08 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @binayaksen: New Poster: Two Victims of A Draconian State http://bit.ly/fGD3DY #Gandhi & #Binayak SenJan 08 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @binayaksen: FAQ on Free Binayak Sen Campaign http://bit.ly/hjjsiJJan 08 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: Free Binayak Sen Campaign Appeal for food materials to feed the Homeless http://bit.ly/eGgXKwJan 08 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reconfiguring my apache, postfix, dovecot servers to simply not log at all. No logs = nothing to hand over to authorities when asked.Jan 08 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] GameTree Linux Is Trying To Be Its Own Steam-Like Platform, doubts about value of service. http://ur1.ca/2s32cJan 08 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @fabsh The !Lx logo don't reflect in the RSS feed from you new siteJan 08 11:01
DaemonFCso no more standalone Cedega for your distro of choice, big dealJan 08 11:01
DaemonFCCedega is all marketing anywayJan 08 11:02
DaemonFCthey have trouble retaining subscribers because they find out what a piece of crap it isJan 08 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Microsoft reviewing prize media account: source http://ur1.ca/2s34n #advertisingJan 08 11:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear EU commission/parliament/council - don't talk about protecting our privacy when you are the ones that sold it first to the US.Jan 08 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Can I haz cheap router with embedded mail server please?Jan 08 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] @jwildeboer install #openwrt on a router with USB connector. would be nice if it would also do encryption of the external disk.Jan 08 11:08
oiaohmDaemonFC: Cedega did get ahead of wine and codeweavers at one point.  But times change.  License change of wine has slowly eaten there differences.Jan 08 11:18
DaemonFCthey got ahead as far as DirectX goes only while Wine wasn't that interested in itJan 08 11:19
DaemonFCbut Cedega hasn't been worth the money since at least 2006Jan 08 11:19
DaemonFCaround mid 2006, Cedega announced they supported Oblivion, and it kind of sort of didJan 08 11:20
DaemonFCit was slow, it crashed a lot, they had to disable certain texturing features and run it low resJan 08 11:20
DaemonFCthey do this halfass "support" of a game just so they can issue a press release to bait subscribers withJan 08 11:21
DaemonFCalso, for what they charged for a subscription, by the time you had Cedega for a year you could have just bought WindowsJan 08 11:22
DaemonFCI gave up on it after running a few games that had already been out for several years and getting better results from WINEJan 08 11:23
DaemonFCI didn't feel like it was worth having after the 7 day free trial was upJan 08 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @linuxtoy !Fedora 大使北京聚会通知 http://is.gd/kmlh0 about our !Beijing meeting with @harishpillayJan 08 11:23
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DaemonFCthe only area where Wine fails and Cedega doesn't is copy protection, but a no disc patch gets you around thatJan 08 11:24
DaemonFCand Wine's support for Securom and Safedisc is actually decent lately anywayJan 08 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Imagine @brigittaj was a chinese dissident and it was the chines gov, not DoJ asking for all twitter. You get the idea.Jan 08 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Ben's Prison Blog: The Unanswerable Letter http://ur1.ca/2s39pJan 08 11:25
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DaemonFCI think it's unreasonable to sell someone defective goods (program with DRM) and then complain that they try to remove the DRM to make it workJan 08 11:26
oiaohmDaemonFC: Cedega forked off there DirectX source base from wine when wine was MIT license and added extra features and did not give back.   That is how they got a head temp.Jan 08 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Imagine @birgittaj was a chinese dissident and it was the chines gov, not DoJ asking for all twitter. You get the idea.Jan 08 11:26
oiaohmAlso they were prepared to break wine basic ideal as well.  Either code proper or not at all.  At the code of mainline wine.Jan 08 11:27
DaemonFCyeah, Cedega has been failing too badly to cover up latelyJan 08 11:27
DaemonFCso they've had to merge more and more stuff from WINE, meaning relicensing parts of Cedega to do thatJan 08 11:27
oiaohmBasically it was not that wine was not interested in Direct XJan 08 11:28
oiaohmWine was not prepared to take short cuts that back fire in end.Jan 08 11:29
oiaohmWine played the long term game and has kicked there ass.Jan 08 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jwildeboer: I agree, you can say that for many of the actions of western governments. I believe in switching around to see how it looks.Jan 08 11:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @appelond Ahhh... What exactly do you mean by that?Jan 08 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Während SPIEGEL mit der Twitter Subpoena aufmacht, brüllt Heise lauter CES Meldungen auf den Ticker. #FAILJan 08 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @glynmoody I would love to hire his hair stylist, if I had hair. Cool hair do.Jan 08 11:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://bit.ly/i9OLq2Jan 08 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @fabsh I just subscribed to the RSS Feed, from google reader, and the Icon/logo from the site is not showed. I think it is called faviconJan 08 11:48
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DaemonFC:)Jan 08 11:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @fabsh Take a look here http://imagebin.org/131610Jan 08 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @appelond No idea why that would be...Jan 08 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@mroemmelt - will blog requirements and goals. Let's see how to do it.Jan 08 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Haha, Dogbert looks like a clone of Stevie B. LOLJan 08 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RIAA Admits P2P Not Solely to Blame for Decreased Music Sales - http://bit.ly/gXK3mj "2010 saw enormous growth in online streaming musiC"Jan 08 12:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Multiple Activists and Members of the Pirate Party Arrested in Tunisia - http://bit.ly/hshpH5 more bad stuff #tunisia #piratepartyJan 08 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Classifying The Unclassifiable: R18+ & The Bigger Picture in #Australia - http://bit.ly/hVQxYe "the entire system is out of date”Jan 08 12:05
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DaemonFCheh, there's an Opera skin that makes it look like the Internet Channel on the Wii :)Jan 08 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @rlancefield culture of fear around copyright perfectly illustrated. Look at ridiculous disclaimers under screenshot http://bit.ly/gGbWy3Jan 08 12:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] U.S. teenager tortured in Kuwait and barred re-entry into the U.S. http://ur1.ca/2s3mi !wlJan 08 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PLoS ONE: now the world's largest journal? - http://bit.ly/hftNk5 another great thing about #openaccess: it scalesJan 08 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Roy Hodgeson and Robbie Keane have something in common, neither stood a chance at #LFCJan 08 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: PRR - Privacy Respecting Router a #freedentity idea http://ur1.ca/2s3qeJan 08 12:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[m3tti/@m3tti] http://is.gd/kmve3 US-Justizministerium verlangt Zugriff auf Twitter-Daten !politik !wlJan 08 12:26
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61754434Jan 08 12:53
DaemonFCblah blah blah, cloud, blah blah blah, platform...Jan 08 12:58
schestowitziBlah -- $199 (discounted)Jan 08 13:00
schestowitzserver fell again :-oJan 08 13:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/23678110486495234Jan 08 13:03
DaemonFCI'm rather impressed with the work Fedora has done on SELinux latelyJan 08 13:05
DaemonFClast time I tried using Fedora day to day SELinux got in my way so much I had to turn it offJan 08 13:05
DaemonFCIt's not breaking anything I use and when it complains I just silence the warning without enabling dangerous operationsJan 08 13:06
DaemonFCwaiting for it to unlabel an entire filesystem is aggravating :DJan 08 13:08
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN2bPy4NQAQJan 08 13:13
schestowitzhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110106/15562612562/columbus-dispatch-issues-takedown-famous-youtube-video-homeless-guy-with-great-radio-voice.shtmlJan 08 13:13
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedomJan 08 13:33
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010Jan 08 13:33
schestowitzDId I miss anything?Jan 08 13:33
DaemonFCnopeJan 08 13:34
*DaemonFC picked a hell of a day to have to do laundryJan 08 13:34
DaemonFCfreezing out and I'll probably be done just in time for a snow stormJan 08 13:35
*DaemonFC needs to move somewhere where he can do laundry on premises Jan 08 13:35
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DaemonFCpreferably cheaper than $5 a load tooJan 08 13:35
schestowitzIt seems the server's down while the admin is asleepJan 08 13:36
schestowitzBad luckJan 08 13:36
DaemonFCno, bad luck is having to cram all your clothes and bed linens in and then sitting on the machine to get the lid to shut so you don't have to do another one :)Jan 08 13:37
schestowitzYou could do that the next timeJan 08 13:38
schestowitzOr hand-washJan 08 13:38
DaemonFClaundry mountain, by handJan 08 13:38
DaemonFCnot happeningJan 08 13:38
schestowitzhttp://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/01/07/1553241/Intel-Insider-DRM-Risks-Monopoly-InvestigationsJan 08 13:40
schestowitzThe internet changes everything/nothing http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2011/01/the_internet_ch.phpJan 08 13:42
schestowitzSuch a trol^Jan 08 13:42
DaemonFC" if you don’t want to use the Insider feature, there is no need to, just avoid the services that use it. It does not affect your own personal content in any way."Jan 08 13:44
DaemonFCthat's not an answerJan 08 13:44
DaemonFCit's like saying if you don't want $3 a gallon gas, get rid of your carJan 08 13:44
DaemonFCnot that extreme I guess, since you don't technically NEED moviesJan 08 13:45
DaemonFCbut it's saying you either use their DRM or just go without everything from everyone that chooses to use itJan 08 13:45
DaemonFCI've avoided a lot of things I'd like to buy because I refuse the terms of the DRMJan 08 13:46
DaemonFCthat's the original reason I never bought anything from iTunesJan 08 13:46
DaemonFCI got some "free" iTunes songs from codes on Pepsi bottlecaps back in 2004 and when I went to play the songs in Winamp they wouldn't playJan 08 13:48
DaemonFCuntil then I had no idea what DRM was or why I should care, and I had to read up to see what else I couldn't do with something I "bought"Jan 08 13:48
DaemonFCyou have to go out of your way to buy an Intel CPU that supports this particular DRM so you can go out of your way to rent content that won't work without itJan 08 13:49
DaemonFCI just don't see that taking off since it's an even less attractive offer than other DRM schemesJan 08 13:49
oiaohmDaemonFC: They did DRM you car in a way.Jan 08 13:50
oiaohmPeople forget the Model-T ford would basically run on anything you can get you hands on.Jan 08 13:50
DaemonFCincluding moonshine (which was illegal to make, but it worked)Jan 08 13:51
oiaohmWhere modern day cars due to fuel lines and tanks and other things will not.  So locking you to oil based fuels.Jan 08 13:51
oiaohmYep moonshine if it strong.Jan 08 13:51
DaemonFCyeah, you have to have your fuel lines and tank replaced to run your car on E-85Jan 08 13:52
DaemonFCand your oxygen sensor too :)Jan 08 13:52
DaemonFCit costs about $700 including laborJan 08 13:52
DaemonFCin the winter I mix E-85 to gasoline 50/50Jan 08 13:53
DaemonFCit keeps my gas line from freezing and it doesn't piss the O2 sensor off :)Jan 08 13:53
DaemonFCI wouldn't go past about 40% ethanol in the mix thoughJan 08 13:54
DaemonFCor you risk corrosionJan 08 13:54
DaemonFCin the winter they still call it E-85, but the winter mix is actually 70% ethanolJan 08 13:54
amarsh04oiaohm on grub and using biosdisk verses ata... it appears that grub can only use one disk module at a time, so using disk-module=ata would remove access to scsi disks and sata disks accessed using ahci... will ask the developers about itJan 08 13:56
DaemonFCE-85 has the advantage of being a good 50-60 cents a gallon cheaper than gas, I filled a rental car up last summer on it before returning it :)Jan 08 13:56
oiaohmLot of cars made here drop 70% ethanol in the gas tank say by by to fuel lines and gas tank liner.Jan 08 13:58
oiaohmYep car is not getting far at all.Jan 08 13:59
DaemonFCif you do it by mistake one time you'll be alrightJan 08 14:00
DaemonFCbut if you keep filling up on it, eventually you're looking at some repairsJan 08 14:00
oiaohmNopJan 08 14:00
oiaohmOne of the issues is some of the fuel filters.Jan 08 14:00
oiaohmMaterial used they will melt out.Jan 08 14:00
oiaohmTo be correct some of them starts dieing once you are to 10 percent ethanol.Jan 08 14:01
oiaohmdieing at a few weeks pace.Jan 08 14:01
DaemonFCwell, that HEET stuff they sell is just ethanolJan 08 14:01
DaemonFCripoff, they give you this little 16 ounce bottle for $3Jan 08 14:01
DaemonFCI just get a few gallons of E-85 and mix it with gasJan 08 14:01
oiaohmMost of our fuel is max locked at 10 percent ethanol.Jan 08 14:02
oiaohmAnd some cars manuals include instructions not to put any higher in.Jan 08 14:02
oiaohmYep do and you are stuffed.Jan 08 14:02
DaemonFCyeah, there's a big warning on the E-85 pumps that say it isn't gas and they are not liable if you put it in a car that can't handle itJan 08 14:03
DaemonFC:)Jan 08 14:03
DaemonFCit gets subsidized big time because Indiana has a lot of corn growersJan 08 14:04
DaemonFCthat means lobbyistsJan 08 14:04
DaemonFCthat means, E-85 has no gasoline taxJan 08 14:04
DaemonFCso the stuff ends up cheap as hell compared to gasJan 08 14:04
DaemonFCpeople ruin their cars on it trying to save a few bucksJan 08 14:05
oiaohmReally if you want scary skip E-85 and use expired aircraft fuel.Jan 08 14:06
oiaohmYes aircraft fuel has a expirey date for many good reasons.Jan 08 14:07
DaemonFCbblJan 08 14:08
DaemonFChave to go shove this laundry in before I put it off againJan 08 14:08
DaemonFC:)Jan 08 14:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I don't understand why Mancini is still trusted, with all those resources, all he knows is defending, which is very odd for an ex-attackerJan 08 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Editing podcasts. As usual...Jan 08 14:10
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tessierInteresting. The problem moved when I moved techrights to a new machine...so maybe it isn't the hardware.Jan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'd imagine news that Fergie was immortal would sent an avalanche of groans around the non-MUFC #football worldJan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] We so have to win tomorrow, now that Dalglish is in charge of Liverpool !mufcJan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @gotunandan with Kenny, I wouldn't count out a bounce, where #lfc have a decent cup run to get something out of a terrible seasonJan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osvaldo/@osvaldo] US tells #Twitter to hand over !WikiLeaks supporter's (Birgitta Jonsdottir is member of parliament in Iceland) messages http://goo.gl/XQh6QJan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden @rpcutts I really hope Liverpool get relegated playing the most boring !football ever under the defensively-minded and ...Jan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith :-)Jan 08 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Browse here to play for free http://blurst.com/blush/ or pay money to play on your Mac. App Store reality.Jan 08 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] ♺ @Kletskous: ♺ @AnnieMachon: RT @rop_g: blogged: US DOJ subpoenas my twitter account info http://bit.ly/edzxwf #wikileaksJan 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @sankarshan What a farce the IPL auctions !Jan 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] First #FAmSCo meeting of #2011 will start in #fedora-meeting /cc: !FedoraJan 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] LOL. http://outl.ws/hIAxrM !minecraft !loJan 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] a reminder to @rahulsundaram and @lcafieroJan 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] via @erkanyilmaz: "Pardus" Google translates as "bug" ? http://bit.ly/fSF65S - #pardus is a #Linux distro made in !turkeyJan 08 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A closer look at reports about the growth of Islam in the UK | Stephen Tomkins http://ow.ly/3ApyUJan 08 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I need more coffee...Jan 08 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm Purged mono from 11.04 installed mononono and can't activate Broadcom drivers any ideas !linux gurus?Jan 08 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] @gbraad thanks for organizing this.Jan 08 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @cami13: In 1week Microblogging in education at http://formare.erickson.itJan 08 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @cami13: With @ggrosseck Cirip.eu: microblogging around objects http://url.ie/8s2fJan 08 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @SorinRusi: Android 3.0 Honeycomb – preview video http://t.co/TSYYwg2 - Si incepe nebunia update-urilor:DJan 08 14:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @ct27stf: Nou pe blog: chestiutze http://www.euareblog.ro/catalin-nicolescu/chestiutze/Jan 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: RT @spuse http://twileshare.com - Upload and share files on Twitter (1GB Storage Space) - deocamdata e pe baza de invitatii.Jan 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mobilissimo: Apple pulls VLC from App Store over open-source DRM dispute http://mbls.ro/ghrARm (slashgear.com)Jan 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @maymaym Friends, here's why you should not trust #Twitter for !privacy. ♺ @ioerror: Do not send me DMs. …my account information has ...Jan 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm Purged mono from 11.04 installed mononono and can't activate Broadcom drivers any ideas linux gurus !ubuntuJan 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #annoying #googlereader: why doesn't google reader have a BCC field? Any RFC reason?Jan 08 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Gnome Shell Notifications Explained http://lxnews.org/2011/01/08/gnome-shell-notifications-explained/Jan 08 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @lxnews Gnome Shell Notifications Explained http://lxnews.org/2011/01/08/gnome-shell-notifications-explained/Jan 08 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jargon as a senator,obama said whistleblowers are a part of healthy democracy. http://is.gd/kjhae CHANGE u better believe in! !wikileaksJan 08 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[acid/@acid] RT @huxi RT @ggreenwald For those who haven't seen it, a copy of the !WikiLeaks Order served on Twitter is here: http://is.gd/klpkoJan 08 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@spyblog Which subpoena demands data of all followers? The one at http://ur1.ca/2s2nl doesn't IMHO. Please explain.Jan 08 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Switching back to Pidgin as Empathy is very broken with Google Talk in F14 ATM...Jan 08 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember Life of Brian? Dear #DoJ - I am Julian Assange. And my wife is also Julian Assange. And my best freind is also Julian Assange :-)Jan 08 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz Last couple of days I have been having on and off trouble reaching TR site, having problems?Jan 08 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] HTC Android #musthave Volume Locker : prevents accidentally lowering ringer w/ side buttons, resets it unless confirm in 30 secs. :-)Jan 08 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ♺ @jargon as a senator, #obama said whistleblowers are part of healthy democracy. http://is.gd/kjhae CHANGE u better believe in! #WikileaksJan 08 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] ♺ @partipirate: Le DptoJustice US a exigé de @Twitter toutes les infos liées à !WikiLeaks y compris les 600.000+ abonnés ! http://ppfr.it/drJan 08 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Reading about GameTree Linux, described as Steam-Like Platform http://ow.ly/3AqoI Seems to be descended from Cedega codeJan 08 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Yay! I love @th3k4ty! :D http://ur1.ca/2s4kpJan 08 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Tech Comics: "Meeting a Facebook Friend" — Datamation.com http://ow.ly/3AqvmJan 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Never thought I'd see the day Broadcom Joined the Linux Foundation http://ping.fm/hhw9BJan 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm personal blog: "a wee update" http://ur1.ca/2ruzx ... now going offline to get Inconstant Moon done... unplugging :DJan 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Weekend Project: Add Vim Features to #Firefox with #Vimperator | Linux.com http://ow.ly/3AqxDJan 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Where in Beijing can I buy Arduino boards etc? #fbJan 08 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @silner Never thought I'd see the day Broadcom Joined the Linux Foundation http://ping.fm/hhw9BJan 08 14:21
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tessierAnd always early in the morning my time...every time so far.Jan 08 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera yes, someJan 08 14:23
MinceRGood [Time of Day Here]!Jan 08 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Social-network !opensource project !Diaspora named 'rookie of the year' - SD Times http://ow.ly/3AqAsJan 08 14:25
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schestowitztessier: do the logs give any signs? I wasn't doing anything when it happened.Jan 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ovigia #debian #CB statler bad move :( going Chrome instead of Iceweasel/Icecat/Firefox...doesn't make any sense!!! http://ur1.ca/2rvjzJan 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] When trouble strikes, who speaks for !opensource? | ITworld http://ow.ly/3AqCvJan 08 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Assange vs. Zuckerberg http://is.gd/kmRnQ serving those in power is commendableJan 08 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Feds relax export curbs on open-source crypto http://is.gd/kmRIs what does that say about surveillance habits?Jan 08 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good stuff - "Arduino The Documentary (2010) " - http://vimeo.com/18539129 #fbJan 08 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] So ebooks really are taking off and I'm resigned being marginalised by refusing to join the bandwagonJan 08 14:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 2 days late I finally read: The Web Is a Customer Service Medium (Ftrain.com) http://ow.ly/3AqK9Jan 08 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Missed this one too: Apache to steward NASA-built middleware http://ping.fm/7WrRYJan 08 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Better link to: Apache to steward NASA-built middleware - Computerworld http://ping.fm/W4RkDJan 08 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rrix Cartoon For Jan 06, 2011 - http://is.gd/kmTel #share !unix !linux #picoJan 08 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I like this font http://ow.ly/3AqP5 maybe best for titles though?Jan 08 14:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cambridge firm puts #MeeGo into set-top boxes http://is.gd/kmTUnJan 08 14:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer If companies add to FOSS - should that be tax deductibla as they add to the commons and good of all?Jan 08 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] MacOS App Store Piracy Begins on Day One http://lxnews.org/2011/01/08/macos-app-store-piracy-day-one/Jan 08 14:45
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schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20101225131233783&title=this+affirms+why+groklaw+*should*+remain&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=892485#c892626Jan 08 14:47
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schestowitzAMEN to that. Thankyou PJ. I honestly can not think of FLOSS with out Groklaw.Jan 08 14:47
schestowitzIt goes 1. Free Software Foundation 2. European Free Software Foundation 3.Jan 08 14:47
schestowitzSoftware Freedom Law Center 4. GROKLAW 5. Techrights/ Techbyts and then everyoneJan 08 14:47
schestowitzelse.Jan 08 14:47
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schestowitzThe OSI is still important but does little to help my understanding as a user.Jan 08 14:47
schestowitzTheir whole message has always been to help the understanding of the SUITSJan 08 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Walled Wide Web for Nervous Autocrats - http://on.wsj.com/gGvKfj good summary of key shift in global digital technologyJan 08 14:47
schestowitzanyway.Jan 08 14:47
schestowitzBrotherredJan 08 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody RT @rlancefield culture of fear around copyright perfectly illustrated. Look at ridiculous disclaimers under screenshot ht ...Jan 08 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nice to see !techrights acknowledged as site one "can not think of FLOSS with out" http://is.gd/kmVvnJan 08 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer re "Can someone show me where the .@ syntax on twitter is explained? What does it do?" > reply visible to allJan 08 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @glynmoody US DoJ requesting Twitter to give tweets and info of Icelandic MP @birgittaj - http://bit.ly/g4YyEt stupid bullying tacticJan 08 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People of #Iceland are not terrorists http://is.gd/iH3LF @birgittaj helps expose real #terrorism (Collateral Murder) http://is.gd/kfMR0Jan 08 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Iceland provided haven to Fischer after he had accused his homeland the US of all sorts of things and got retaliated against in Japan. !wlJan 08 15:02
gnufreexschestowtiz: Techrights is down again. I wanted to do some translating... but down... :(Jan 08 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Julian Assange just ousted J. Edgar Hoover as mayor at the biggest archive of embarassing information #4sq ;-)Jan 08 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #FAmSCo meeting finished. Meeting log: http://is.gd/kmYmZ /cc: !FedoraJan 08 15:03
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gnufreexoh, it is up again.Jan 08 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When protesting against terrorism is defined as "terrorism", is protesting against rape defined as "rape"? Does. Not. Compute. !wlJan 08 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interfering with one's agenda is not a crime, to suggest otherwise is to advocate exceptionalismJan 08 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Plutocrats & Wartocrats face a real issue when it's blond people like Assange and people in Iceland who stand in the way. Wrong stereotypes.Jan 08 15:10
schestowitzgnufreex: was it down just an hour ago?Jan 08 15:11
schestowitzOr down more recently than that?Jan 08 15:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In some sense, the war on !wikileaks is also a war on sharing and war on transparency. New laws are being put in place, using new pretexts.Jan 08 15:12
schestowitzhttp://www.linux.org.ru/news/russia/5710709?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+org%2FLOR+%28Linux.org.ru:+%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%29&utm_content=Google+ReaderJan 08 15:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/12/wikileaks-exposes-internets-dissent-tax-not-nerd-supremacy/68397/Jan 08 15:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks Exposes Internet's Dissent Tax, not Nerd Supremacy - Zeynep Tufekci - Technology - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 92.73 KBJan 08 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@schestowitz A black president, albino-white whistleblower, strange elves from iceland and sweden. I smell an epic book.Jan 08 15:18
schestowitzOh, only now I see Groklaw put TR in News PicksJan 08 15:18
gnufreexYeah, it was down 10 minutes ago, or soJan 08 15:19
schestowitz load average: 13.60, 13.99, 12.40Jan 08 15:19
schestowitzYikesJan 08 15:19
schestowitz!Jan 08 15:19
schestowitzLet's see what's causing itJan 08 15:19
gnufreexI don't see where is in News picksJan 08 15:20
schestowitzpage 4Jan 08 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @q4td “The number of those who undergo the fatigue of judging for themselves is very small indeed.” — Richard Brinsley Sheridan, The ...Jan 08 15:20
schestowitz'.NET and Windows Presentation Foundation Abandoned by Evernote, “Multi-platform” Means Microsoft'Jan 08 15:20
gnufreexYeah but that was a weak agoJan 08 15:21
schestowitzI don't see anmything suspiciousJan 08 15:21
schestowitzgnufreex: I know, I'm catching upJan 08 15:21
schestowitzThen i'll do daily linksJan 08 15:21
schestowitzSeveral posts...Jan 08 15:21
schestowitzTomorrow I need to program a lot...Jan 08 15:22
gnufreexok :-)Jan 08 15:22
schestowitzSo i try to do as much as I canJan 08 15:22
schestowitzI still have like 20 post draftsJan 08 15:22
schestowitzI can't push them out fast enoughJan 08 15:22
schestowitzAnd they ageJan 08 15:22
schestowitzSome are about old news by nowJan 08 15:22
schestowitzThat's why I need you guys to help out where possible, e.g. wikiJan 08 15:22
gnufreexI have 5 posts in drafts for my blog, but I can't seem to find time to do it. I am coding some stuff for work, and now I am going to translate front page of Techrights.Jan 08 15:23
gnufreexTo serbianJan 08 15:24
schestowitzI really wish we knew what causes server issuesJan 08 15:24
schestowitzgnufreex: thanksJan 08 15:24
schestowitzI've not done a good job keeping up recentlyJan 08 15:24
schestowitzThe thing is, we lost some good Linux sites...Jan 08 15:24
schestowitzTectonic, the SOURCE...Jan 08 15:25
schestowitzThey are barely activeJan 08 15:25
schestowitzSo we lose eyesJan 08 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm rt @ioerror Lots of respect for @amac & rest of Twitter's legal team for getting word out; we end institutional secre ...Jan 08 15:25
schestowitz"Facebook, the popular social networking site, has raised $500 million from Goldman Sachs and a Russian investor in a deal that values the company at $50 billion, according to people involved in the transaction. [PJ: Two more good reasons to avoid Facebook like the plague.] "Jan 08 15:26
gnufreexschestowtiz: Do I need to link stuff? I thought to use OpenOffice and only translate with corect placement, and then I can send it to you. Or thre is a better way. How people done other thanslates ?Jan 08 15:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm rt @lensassaman Better advice:"Assume whatever you send unencrypted may end up before a judge, esp. if it's stored c ...Jan 08 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] " - I want peace on earth and goodwill towards men | - we are the US gov't, we don't do such things!" !q #SneakersJan 08 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Your #socialgraph belongs to you, why not host it yourself instead of google, facebook,twitter? http://ur1.ca/2s3qe #freedentity #privacyJan 08 15:30
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gnufreexschestowitz: I think I am goint to copy Wiki source and then translate all words. :-)Jan 08 15:30
schestowitzI think text is enoughJan 08 15:30
schestowitzThe Boycott Novell partJan 08 15:31
schestowitzAs that explains why Novell and Microsoft are a no-no, like SCOJan 08 15:31
schestowitz"[PJ: That would only work if the community were made up of lawyers and paralegals. Seriously. And that's the bottleneck. That knowledge is what makes Groklaw Groklaw. If there's a hidden crew of such lawyers and paralegals who want to do Groklaw for free, and get the death threats and be the victims of smear attacks every day for the rest of their lives, have them contact me. Kidding. We tried to find such folks years ago. It isn'tJan 08 15:32
schestowitzout there. Lots of people don't understand what Groklaw does, because they don't have any legal background. The lawyers get it, but they are used to getting paid. Anyway, I already wrote that I have no intention of shutting things down. I was describing feelings. But the decision was to keep going. PS If you think SCO is over, you are mistaken.] "Jan 08 15:32
schestowitzDIdn't see this reply...Jan 08 15:32
schestowitzYet she often says it's overJan 08 15:32
schestowitzOver and over againJan 08 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @rysiek " - I want peace on earth and goodwill towards men | - we are the US gov't, we don't do such things!" !q #SneakersJan 08 15:33
gnufreexHow you mean she says it is over?Jan 08 15:35
schestowitzthat SCO is toastJan 08 15:37
schestowitzAnd people have become scepticalJan 08 15:37
schestowitzCause she implied it so many timesJan 08 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Broadcom Joins the Linux Foundation http://lxnews.org/2011/01/08/broadcom-joins-linux-foundation/Jan 08 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hedge Funds Bet Heavily on Republicans at End of Election http://is.gd/kn6xA those who use the word "freedom" for deregulation (of banks)Jan 08 15:45
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twitterha ha.  DRM automobile.  A friend has a 2003 BMW 7 series, one of the first that Microsoft mucked up with iDrive.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDrive  it is a total mess because of that.Jan 08 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] ♺ @partipirate: #twittergate: "1 preuve de plus que lorsque !WikiLeaks est attaqué, ce sont nos libertés fondamentales qui le sont" @jerezimJan 08 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sehe ich das richtig? nds Landwirtschaftsministerium beschwert sich nicht genug mitverdient zu haben am Dioxinskandal? Steuerhinterziehung?Jan 08 15:47
twitterit came with a 100,000 mile warranty but it cost him an arm and a leg anyway.Jan 08 15:47
twitterit was famous for software induced transmission problems that caused lurching, engine stalling on the highway and other stupid problemsJan 08 15:47
twitterthe software needed numerous "patches" and other fixes.Jan 08 15:48
twitterand it is locked tighter than an iphoneJan 08 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What They Know - Mobile http://is.gd/kn7cq more on phone #spyware attributesJan 08 15:48
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MinceRi don't trust a car manufacturer that's stupid enough to put winblows in their carsJan 08 15:49
twitterMicrosoft took a perfectly good automobile and ruined it with an idiot computer.Jan 08 15:49
twitterBMW dealers, from what my friend describes, took advantage of it the way PC dealers screw Windows users.Jan 08 15:49
twitterexcept the costs are all orders of magnitude greater.Jan 08 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cross-sex strip searches ruled unconstitutional http://is.gd/kn7D8 will the #TSA pay attention?Jan 08 15:50
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twitterMicrosoft has similar software for Ford, but Ford is smart enough to hide the Microsoft brand for the most part.Jan 08 15:50
twitterI hate living in a place where I need a car to do anything.Jan 08 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Inflation is to currencies what "freedom2.0" is to us people - you loose value and trust. #wlJan 08 15:52
amarsh04a friend used to work for Motorola doing emedded software for automotive computers for FordJan 08 15:52
twitterdoes your friend have a free software clue, amarsh04?Jan 08 15:52
MinceRi have living in a place where there's no usable transportation, not even via carJan 08 15:52
twitterit would be good to understand what has been going on there.Jan 08 15:53
amarsh04he is the one who obtained a windows refund cheque from Toshiba's Australian subsiduray and used to write the Linux column in Australian Personal Computer magazineJan 08 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @jolieodell: Twitter Subpoenaed by U.S. Government for Wikileaks Accounts http://t.co/tqviE3G #big_brotherJan 08 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @jwildeboer If politicians did not like some inflation we would still be on the gold standard.Jan 08 15:53
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amarsh04subsiduary evenJan 08 15:54
twitterI tend to avoid American cars for quality issues and poor customer service.  Microsoft corruption is just more of the same.Jan 08 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] @schestowitz: I hear on radio "thousands of free apps:" I think you mean like a package repository?Jan 08 15:55
twitterThe computers in my 1970 VW will never give me problems.Jan 08 15:55
twitterI dream of replacing the engine with electric.Jan 08 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It looks like MSBBC Click is going to be fawning all over Balmer in an interview next Saturday.Jan 08 15:58
twitterThe Honorable Issa shows up again, this time asking for a list of regulations that industry would like to be rid of http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2011/000339.htmlJan 08 16:01
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twitterSo, just a few months after the Gulf Drilling Disaster proved to the world that US regulators are hopelessly captured by industry, Issa proves that legislators are hopelessly captured and hope to be worse.Jan 08 16:02
gnufreexschestowitz: Hmm.... after translating some stuff... I discovered some things don't parse too well in serbian. By that I mean that it sounds to plain.Jan 08 16:03
twitterDid you catch the DRAM price crash, Roy?http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/010411-oversupply-sends-dram-prices-to.htmlJan 08 16:03
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twitterit's like Vista all over again.Jan 08 16:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @reutersaero: EU inspectors posing as pax find 30% of arms pass airports undetected, down from 70% http://ow.ly/3ArU1 #SecurityTheatreJan 08 16:03
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gnufreexAnd some changes would help english version too schestowtizJan 08 16:03
twitterThe Windows 7 sales spurt had to be channel stuffing for RAM prices to crash like that.Jan 08 16:04
gnufreexfor example "Boycott Novell is an initiative that was conceived (see history) after Novell had signed a patent deal with"Jan 08 16:04
gnufreexIt would sound better:Jan 08 16:04
Diablo-D3yeah that sounds crappyJan 08 16:04
gnufreexfor example "Boycott Novell is an initiative that was conceived (see history) after Novell had signed a *harmful, exclusive* patent deal with"Jan 08 16:05
gnufreexIt sounds plain in originalJan 08 16:05
Diablo-D3drop the see history tooJan 08 16:05
gnufreexPeople would just say "boho, patent deal"Jan 08 16:05
gnufreexThat happens every dayJan 08 16:05
Diablo-D3and reallyJan 08 16:05
Diablo-D3it should be phrasedJan 08 16:05
Diablo-D3"Boycott Novell is an initative that was conceived when it was realized Novell is a bag of dildos."Jan 08 16:06
gnufreexserisously...Jan 08 16:06
Diablo-D3wait, thats too plainJan 08 16:06
twitterMore on Issa from Facing South http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/01/house-leader-invites-corporate-criminals-to-submit-regulatory-wish-lists.htmlJan 08 16:06
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Diablo-D3"Boycott Novell is an initative that was conceived when it was realized Novell is a bag of _used_ dildos, and the previous owner was particularly foul."Jan 08 16:06
gnufreexDiablo-D3: #$#@#%$%^#$^$#^&$%&%$&#$@%#$%$#%#$T#$^$%&$*$@#$%@I&^&^%&*%^*(^&(*&)*&#$@#%$@#$$%@#Jan 08 16:07
Diablo-D3\o/Jan 08 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel is lying right now, denying that its DRM-in-chip is in fact DRM. Typical for company that shreds evidence of its crimes (AMD case).Jan 08 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DOJ sends order to Twitter for Wikileaks-related account info http://is.gd/knb8b so who's the world's boss? !wikileaksJan 08 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DOJ subpoenas Twitter records of several WikiLeaks volunteers http://is.gd/knblY it's called being "above the law"Jan 08 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jargon as a senator,obama said whistleblowers are a part of healthy democracy. http://is.gd/kjhae CHANGE u better believe in! !wikileaksJan 08 16:10
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twitterhttp://www.southernstudies.org/2011/01/emergency-human-rights-petition-seeks-to-halt-deportations-to-haiti.htmlJan 08 16:10
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gnufreexI'll just translate it the way it is, we will disscuss this some other time :-)Jan 08 16:11
twitterDeepwater Horizon keeps giving http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/protective-boom-gobbled-oil-100-foot-wide-areas-heavily-saturatedJan 08 16:11
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twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/submerged-oil-surfaces-florida-videoJan 08 16:12
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twittermassive bird and fish kills are reported on the gulf and inland as far as Arkansas and Tennessee http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/arkansas-eagle-count-down-birds-be-eating-massive-fish-killJan 08 16:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Arkansas: Eagle count way down — Birds may be eating from massive fish kill | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 85.73 KBJan 08 16:14
twitteroil may have reached the UK.  http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/britain-mysterious-deposits-black-sand-thousands-dead-crabs-wash-ashore  Merry Christmas!Jan 08 16:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Britain: “Mysterious deposits of black sand” and thousands of dead crabs wash ashore | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 93.05 KBJan 08 16:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Meet the MacBook Air by Samsung - kinda, sorta. http://ur1.ca/2s5i2Jan 08 16:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online - Tablet-Netbook-Hybrid mit Schiebetastatur und Edel-Subnotebook (Bild) .::. Size~: 11.75 KBJan 08 16:15
gnufreexI can't beleive... Techrights down againJan 08 16:15
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/physician-criminal-government-people-eat-contaminated-seafood-alright-swim-contaminated-waterJan 08 16:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Physician says it’s “criminal” for government to tell people to eat contaminated seafood and that it’s alright to swim in contaminated water | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 88.76 KBJan 08 16:16
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/whooping-cranes-found-dead-floridaalabama-border-unusual-suspiciousJan 08 16:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Whooping cranes found dead near Florida/Alabama border — “Unusual and suspicious” | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 86.53 KBJan 08 16:16
gnufreexThis seems to look like mobbyist are DDoSing techrightsJan 08 16:16
gnufreex:-(Jan 08 16:16
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/overwhelming-thousands-dead-fish-found-florida-videoJan 08 16:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “Overwhelming”: Thousands of dead fish found in Florida (VIDEO) | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 91 KBJan 08 16:16
twitterA majority of human rights sites have been under DDoS and mobbiest/astroturf attack.Jan 08 16:17
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/biggest-cover-history-america-official-like-coast-guard-noaa-bed-bpJan 08 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Spring Project – An Open Source Strategy #Game Engine With An Impressive Selection of Free Games http://is.gd/kncXv !linuxJan 08 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @magicfab Got a few minutes ? Help with unanswered !LibreOffice questions: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/questions/unanswered #OOoJan 08 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] useradd -s /bin/null -d /dev/null pooruser (hahahahaha)Jan 08 16:19
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/nsfw-official-tells-coast-guard-to-kiss-my-ass-this-is-bullsht-videoJan 08 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “This is the biggest cover-up in the history of America” says official — It’s like Coast Guard and NOAA are “in bed with BP” | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 96.03 KBJan 08 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Spring Project – An Open Source Strategy Game Engine With An Impressive Selection of Free Games .::. Size~: 38.02 KBJan 08 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Unanswered questions - LibreOffice - Shapado -    .::. Size~: 10.01 KBJan 08 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NSFW: Official tells Coast Guard to “Kiss my ass” — “This Is Bullsh!t” (VIDEO) | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 94.93 KBJan 08 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Social-network open-source project #Diaspora named 'rookie of the year' http://is.gd/kndhU good effortJan 08 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @satipera It looks like MSBBC Click is going to be fawning all over Balmer in an interview next Saturday.Jan 08 16:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Social-network open-source project Diaspora named 'rookie of the year' - SD Times: Software Development News  .::. Size~: 134.88 KBJan 08 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @threethirty Tell the GOP: Practice what you preach! Give up your own health care! http://bit.ly/eYhXRBJan 08 16:22
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gnufreex[17:15:41] <twitter> A majority of human rights sites have been under DDoS and mobbiest/astroturf attack.Jan 08 16:23
gnufreexyeahJan 08 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Changed my avatar again since everyone has dildos on their brain, apparently...Jan 08 16:23
twitterWow, even the Techrights RSS is not responding.Jan 08 16:23
MinceRhttp://redd.it/eydlcJan 08 16:26
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schestowitztessier: pingJan 08 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why #Toyota Hybrid cars rock. http://ur1.ca/2s5lc /me is proud #prius driver, BTW.Jan 08 16:28
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twittersomeone at Slashdot wants to admin his servers through iPhone.  "SSH is a must".  LOL http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1344223/Smartphones-For-Text-SSH-Use-Re-Revisited?from=rssJan 08 16:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Smartphones For Text SSH Use Re-Revisited - Slashdot .::. Size~: 152.3 KBJan 08 16:29
twitteryou might as well publish your private keys as put them on a "smart phone"Jan 08 16:30
twitterGoogle forbade Windows for security reasons.  I wonder if they have their own carefully controlled Android phones.Jan 08 16:31
twitterBy carefully controlled, I mean unmolested by telco.Jan 08 16:31
schestowitzShould work again now...Jan 08 16:31
schestowitz[16:29] <twitter> someone at Slashdot wants to admin his servers through iPhone.  "SSH is a must".  LOL http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1344223/Smartphones-For-Text-SSH-Use-Re-Revisited?from=rssJan 08 16:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Smartphones For Text SSH Use Re-Revisited - Slashdot .::. Size~: 152.78 KBJan 08 16:32
schestowitzOur admin does that tooJan 08 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !Ubuntu Adds Sparkle to Nufront Laptops at CES http://is.gd/knfpXJan 08 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Still saying driving that Prius of yours was a terrible experience. I want a proper gearshift like a man.... #grumblJan 08 16:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Adds Sparkle to Nufront Laptops at CES - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 78.3 KBJan 08 16:32
twitter.... ahhhh!Jan 08 16:33
twitterTechrights server has all the security of Angry Birds and iPhone?Jan 08 16:34
twitterBill Gates owns your logs.Jan 08 16:34
twitterChristmas brought on a whole new rash of botnets, supposedly.  http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1624221/Kneber-Botnet-Strikes-Targets-Govt-Agencies?from=rssJan 08 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kneber Botnet Strikes, Targets Gov't Agencies - Slashdot .::. Size~: 145.48 KBJan 08 16:35
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/07/open_source_crypto_curbs/Jan 08 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Feds relax export curbs on open-source crypto • The Register .::. Size~: 22.48 KBJan 08 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @fabsh geht nur auf deutsch ;-) Bin halt Opa mit Hut ;-)Jan 08 16:37
twitterSlashdot blames massive bird deaths on shifting magnetic pole.  Yeah right.  http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/196230/Magnetic-Pole-Shift-Affects-Tampa-Airport?from=rssJan 08 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Hahaha.... Stimmt. :DJan 08 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good morning !identiverse! (for a few minutes yet, anyway)Jan 08 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ludost Like me: "History is when you grow up first in one country and then in another, and you didn't even move" !q via http://is.gd ...Jan 08 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @jwildeboer @fabsh geht nur auf deutsch ;-) Bin halt Opa mit Hut ;-)Jan 08 16:38
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schestowitz /s/slashdot/bp/Jan 08 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zorin OS 4 reviewed http://is.gd/kngYq "Aside from those quibbles, I quite like Zorin OS 4." !gnu !linusxJan 08 16:40
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61772147Jan 08 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr@U Avalos (ikaruga2099)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-11 16:27:34 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz awesome I remember TA. Shame the updated version won't run on my systemJan 08 16:41
schestowitzSomething keeps hammering on the techrights serverJan 08 16:42
schestowitzThat's why it fell a while agoJan 08 16:43
schestowitzI had to rerun apacheJan 08 16:43
schestowitzload average: 13.05, 8.31, 4.85Jan 08 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Hey folks, please, a good sound card that works with kernel 2.6.32.11, PCI, can anyone suggest me ???Jan 08 16:43
schestowitzDamn it.. not load 15Jan 08 16:44
schestowitz8nowJan 08 16:44
schestowitz*nowJan 08 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[demuxer/@demuxer] RT @S2RD2 Los gobiernos si que se pasan de abusivos http://on.mash.to/h3U8SO !WikiLeaksJan 08 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kundra Encourages Open Source...& Proprietary http://is.gd/knizM how about freedom software? States need that for real control.Jan 08 16:48
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twitterbiology students fail to understand carbon cycle?  http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/01/07/1833206/College-Students-Lack-Scientific-Literacy?from=rssJan 08 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !GNOME Shell Theme Pack- A nice collecion of themes for Gnome shell http://is.gd/knjeB looks very nice, all of themJan 08 16:50
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twitter"smart meters" challenged in CA  http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/01/05/05greenwire-calif-county-criminalizes-smart-meter-installa-66649.htmlJan 08 16:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Calif. County Criminalizes Smart-Meter Installations - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 44.45 KBJan 08 16:53
twitterI agree, non free software electric meters are a terrible idea.Jan 08 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] US Relaxing Export Restrictions for Open Source Crypto http://lxnews.org/2011/01/08/us-relaxing-export-restrictions-for-crypto/Jan 08 16:54
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twitterPGE is a terrible company that helped Enron create rolling blackouts.Jan 08 16:54
twitterI would not trust their meter to do anything but cost users more for less.Jan 08 16:54
twitterthe power it gives utility companies over users is also unethicalJan 08 16:54
schestowitzhttp://tinyogg.com/watch/i5t7c/Jan 08 16:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I just knew @dexyit !opensource documentation project http://dexy.it was gonna have a Midnight Runners connection. Inevitable :)Jan 08 16:58
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twitterdoes Techrights run versions 5.2 or 5.3 of PHP?  http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1820208/PHP-Floating-Point-Bug-Crashes-Servers?from=rssJan 08 16:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PHP Floating Point Bug Crashes Servers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 155.98 KBJan 08 16:59
twittermobbiest will use that bugJan 08 16:59
twitterI'm going to see if the bug is PHP or Windows.  Slashdot often misses that detail.Jan 08 17:00
twitterOften as in every time.Jan 08 17:00
twitterReported on Ubuntu by someone who tried it out on Windows first. http://www.exploringbinary.com/php-hangs-on-numeric-value-2-2250738585072011e-308/Jan 08 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @fabsh Stern actually sounds like he could be my role model... :)Jan 08 17:03
twitterI hold anyone using Windows for PHP highly suspect.Jan 08 17:03
MinceRi prefer to avoid both.Jan 08 17:04
twitterThe reporter also advertises Visual Studio.  Report is worthless, perhaps FUD, but Slashdot reported that patches were out the next day.Jan 08 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Looking for a CF to SD adaptor where the SD is put in on the top, not the side. They seem to be nonexistent. Hints welcome.Jan 08 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bobjonkman @CBCTechSci: Why do you describe Jacob Applebaum @ioerror as a "programmer" but Rop Gonggrijp @rop_g as a "hacker"? http: ...Jan 08 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How long have you been using IdentiCurse @fabsh? Is it still just for Identica?Jan 08 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 @x11r5 Congratulations on winning your Oscar. Do you also sing?Jan 08 17:05
twitterI have not used PHP, what is wrong with it?Jan 08 17:05
MinceRit's a horrible pile of hacks upon hacksJan 08 17:06
MinceRand it encourages bad practicesJan 08 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @silner I hope it is! For about half a week now. Tried it for a short time very early on too...Jan 08 17:08
schestowitzInteresting, re phpJan 08 17:10
schestowitzI'll ask tessierJan 08 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm book cover looks good and a nice photo.Jan 08 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gene Smith - http://bit.ly/gnSU85 "almost single-handedly ensured the survival of Tibetan literature after the Chinese invasion"; incredibleJan 08 17:23
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schestowitztessier: could a PHP bug have been targetted maybe... to crash the VM?Jan 08 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Thanks. I like it because it's an awkward angle but then i tend to be a tad weird. Will be a wuss & use more normal photo thoJan 08 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Hungary's new media law shows contempt for democracy, the separation of powers and core European ideals - http://bit.ly/fvZyJP not goodJan 08 17:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hungary's new media law shows contempt for democracy, the separation of powers and core European ideals | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 42.66 KBJan 08 17:28
twitterhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/junk-science-methane-researchers-manipulating-data-gain-media-attention-top-attorneyJan 08 17:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “Junk Science”: Methane researchers are “manipulating data to gain media attention” says top attorney | Florida Oil Spill Law .::. Size~: 87.94 KBJan 08 17:29
schestowitzthis site is only pointersJan 08 17:30
schestowitzand snippetsJan 08 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gamerchick02 I still say that Judy Garland is the only one who can sing "Over the Rainbow".Jan 08 17:30
twitterrightJan 08 17:30
gnufreex[17:41:23] <schestowitz> I had to rerun apacheJan 08 17:30
gnufreextry cheerokee sometimes. It works wonders. It is faster and more scalable, I couldn't beleive how good it is. http://www.cherokee-project.com/downloads.htmlJan 08 17:30
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schestowitznot as handy as direct linksJan 08 17:30
twitterthe site is an indexJan 08 17:30
twitterlike a pile of index cardsJan 08 17:31
schestowitzthere's still too much load on the server, some spidersJan 08 17:31
twitterhmmmJan 08 17:31
gnufreexI can bet tha mobbyists are attacking.Jan 08 17:31
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twitterdirect links would be cites of actual publications, but those are all locked up if they exist at all for the subject.Jan 08 17:31
twitterFlorida Oil Spill Law is a good place to find names to guide further research.  The snippets also contain most of the meat and highlights published contradictions.Jan 08 17:33
twitterSadly, the popular media pointed to will not last as long as the site will.Jan 08 17:33
twitterso the snippets may be all that survives in the long term, that is a valuable serviceJan 08 17:34
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/146331/ "Jan 08 17:34
schestowitzPosted by Scott_Ruecker on Dec 27, 2010 11:53 PM ESTJan 08 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LXer: LXer Weekly Roundup for 26-Dec-2010  .::. Size~: 19.39 KBJan 08 17:34
schestowitzLXer Linux NewsMail this storyJan 08 17:34
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twitterman arrested for bagel of doom http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Florida-Professor-Arrested-for-Having-aSuspicious-Bagel-on-a-Plane-112825029.html  article works with netsrufJan 08 17:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                                         Florida Professor Arrested for Having a "Suspicious" Bagel on a Plane |                      NBC Miami        .::. Size~: 265.72 KBJan 08 17:40
twitterthe story is bad, but reality is probably worseJan 08 17:42
twitterI'd like to have been there to see the actual confrontation.  The story makes it look like the passenger did something wrong with a cell phone.Jan 08 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] My, how the script kiddies are busy these days: A list of failed SSH log-ins to my site over the past week: http://bit.ly/eB2Z3UJan 08 17:47
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schestowitzhttp://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_c6cf326d-c87a-51f1-9732-dfbb72176e97.htmlJan 08 17:52
schestowitz"BYU senior anthropology student Whitney Andersen attended Saturday's ceremony with two friends, Karthik Chandrasekaran and Vegin Abraham Varghese, both of India, here in the U.S. working as temporary consultants for Novell."Jan 08 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Krishnas welcome New Year by chanting names of God 1M times   .::. Size~: 64.04 KBJan 08 17:52
twitterfunny, this is juxtaposed with a failed ssh password guessing attackJan 08 17:53
twitterKrishnas fail to crack God, despite 1 M guessesJan 08 17:53
schestowitzYahoo and Bong hammer on the serverJan 08 17:54
schestowitzBut I don't have tools to do more than just tail what's going on. THis is frustratingJan 08 17:54
twitterYahoo and Bong are one.  I suppose both hammer the site to prove the probing is malicious.Jan 08 17:56
schestowitzBut that doesn't explain crashesJan 08 17:58
schestowitzMaybe correlated technical issuesJan 08 17:58
twitterVery nice of them to be so open.  I would have expected them to use their usual DDoS rather than a direct attack.Jan 08 17:58
twitterPerhaps the people at Bong have found a bug to exploit.Jan 08 17:58
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GoForbes28Good pre-afternoon!Jan 08 17:59
schestowitzI'm not sure the cache is being usedJan 08 17:59
twitterMicrosoft and big publisher java script are particularly nasty to free software browsers.Jan 08 17:59
twitterperhaps Microsoft spiders have learned how to trip up free software servers.Jan 08 17:59
twitterprobing material with predictable layout to cause disk thrashing, probing material in a way to overload caching, there are lots of things they might be up.Jan 08 18:00
twitterI look forward to what you might find.Jan 08 18:01
schestowitzMy guess is that their bots hammer the site cause it was down and they try to catch upJan 08 18:03
schestowitzBut the pace of requests is insane and constantJan 08 18:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @c0y0t3: Series de TV en Internet, por qué los usuarios se las descargan gratis http://tinyurl.com/36slkc5 < #amen a ver si se enteranJan 08 18:03
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GoForbes28What is this now?Jan 08 18:04
GoForbes28Was Techrights attacked?Jan 08 18:04
twitterI would not expect a Microsoft spider to be politeJan 08 18:04
gnufreex[18:52:48] <schestowitz> Yahoo and Bong hammer on the serverJan 08 18:04
gnufreex[18:53:06] <schestowitz> But I don't have tools to do more than just tail what's going on. THis is frustratingJan 08 18:04
gnufreexMicrosoft want shut Techrights down!!?Jan 08 18:04
twitterYou know they doJan 08 18:04
GoForbes28Do a Wikileaks; put mirrors everywhereJan 08 18:04
GoForbes28maybe use an OpenNIC domainJan 08 18:05
twitterthey would also like to prevent Google indexing.Jan 08 18:05
gnufreextwitter: No... Microsoft would never do something like that...Jan 08 18:05
gnufreexsJan 08 18:05
twitterI suppose you could ignore Microsoft IP addresses.Jan 08 18:05
GoForbes28That would workJan 08 18:05
GoForbes28Or maybe a decentralized P2P techrights?Jan 08 18:06
schestowitzUser-agent: Yahoo-slurpJan 08 18:06
GoForbes28Though I'm not sure what form that would takeJan 08 18:06
schestowitzDisallow:Jan 08 18:06
schestowitzUser-agent: MsnbotJan 08 18:06
schestowitzDisallow:Jan 08 18:06
GoForbes28That simple? :PJan 08 18:06
gnufreexMicrosoft cockroaches are not politeJan 08 18:06
GoForbes28IS this a recent thing?Jan 08 18:06
GoForbes28I mean, I don't recall this behaviour from Them beforeJan 08 18:08
twittershame though.  Now M$ can claim their Bong is honest.Jan 08 18:08
twitterThere goes less than 5% of all internet search traffic!Jan 08 18:08
GoForbes28They do immoral, unfair, and sneaky things of course, but this one is new for meJan 08 18:08
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/132226/groklaw-dont-go-home-go-bigJan 08 18:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw: Don't go home, go big | ITworld .::. Size~: 87.39 KBJan 08 18:08
schestowitzEmotional exhuasion...Jan 08 18:08
schestowitz*auJan 08 18:08
GoForbes28Roy, does techrights have an NIC domain?Jan 08 18:09
twitterand a set of readers that would never bother to read a site with Rights in the title will never know of Techrights through Bong.Jan 08 18:09
twitterI think Bong censored Techrights out anyway.Jan 08 18:09
schestowitzBrandon gave up his domainJan 08 18:09
twitterLet's Look!Jan 08 18:09
schestowitzMoved to wordpress.com after too much troubleJan 08 18:09
GoForbes28Brandon?Jan 08 18:09
GoForbes28ahJan 08 18:09
GoForbes28Maybe we should make a counterfeit BongJan 08 18:10
MinceRthey already haveJan 08 18:10
MinceRit's called "yahoo"Jan 08 18:10
gnufreexNo... Bong finds techrights nicelyJan 08 18:10
GoForbes28like those fake MSE scamsJan 08 18:10
GoForbes28No I meanJan 08 18:10
schestowitzYahoosoft does not obey robots.txt terJan 08 18:10
schestowitz*yetJan 08 18:10
GoForbes28A site that looks and sound like Bong, but is actually a better search engineJan 08 18:10
gnufreexand it must find it when they send their cockroaches and spiders all over it.Jan 08 18:10
GoForbes28A trojan horse to use a better product so to speakJan 08 18:10
MinceRGoForbes28: google with a background set? :>Jan 08 18:11
GoForbes28Yeah :PJan 08 18:11
schestowitzI would have had 5 more new posts by nowJan 08 18:11
schestowitzAnd daily linksJan 08 18:11
GoForbes28Get an OpenNIC domainJan 08 18:11
GoForbes28then at least, we the devoted can still get to your serverJan 08 18:11
MinceRclick bottom left on google.com :>Jan 08 18:11
MinceR(needs javascript)Jan 08 18:11
schestowitzload average: 14.90, 12.88, 13.23Jan 08 18:11
GoForbes28and it will encourage more people to use a decentralized system like openniceJan 08 18:12
schestowitzSame for like 3 hours now...Jan 08 18:12
twitterGoogle returns Techrights for three of the first four results for "Reality Log" Vista 7, XBox and Bing.Jan 08 18:12
schestowitzMostly Yahoo flood, with bongJan 08 18:12
gnufreexlets ddos BONGJan 08 18:12
schestowitzI hardly see googlebotJan 08 18:12
*Judas_PhD has quit (Quit: This is a quitting message)Jan 08 18:12
twitterBong returns a bunch of real estate with Techrights at spot 9 or so, Vista 8 reality logJan 08 18:12
GoForbes28Ask finds techrights no problemJan 08 18:12
GoForbes28#3 for vista reality logJan 08 18:13
MinceRbìng has always sucked at providing relevant resultsJan 08 18:13
MinceReven in fields that aren't about how m$ fucked up the worldJan 08 18:13
gnufreexThey provide what's relevant to Microsfot .Jan 08 18:13
gnufreexDecision engine.Jan 08 18:13
GoForbes28http://www.opennicproject.org/Jan 08 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr@:Jan 08 18:13
twitterreturns what pays M$Jan 08 18:13
MinceRis that m$ese for "crap search engine"?Jan 08 18:13
twitterexcludes all elseJan 08 18:13
twitterit works the way highway billboards work as road mapsJan 08 18:14
twitteryou are not going to find anything interestingJan 08 18:14
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/robots.txtJan 08 18:15
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting text/plain; charset=UTF-8 typeJan 08 18:15
schestowitzit doesn't take effect yetJan 08 18:15
GoForbes28It's an adware esearchJan 08 18:15
schestowitzI can't just ban them easilyJan 08 18:15
schestowitzToo many IPsJan 08 18:15
GoForbes28well, premptive strike is the bestJan 08 18:15
GoForbes28And as I said many times, you could try OpenNICJan 08 18:15
GoForbes28I also want to clarify something I said yesterdayJan 08 18:16
twitterM$ is shifty like thatJan 08 18:16
GoForbes28I made an Indenti regarding the registry issues I was having with Win 7Jan 08 18:17
GoForbes28and someone asked "Pro-Doze"?Jan 08 18:17
GoForbes28I though he meant the version of Windows I was usingJan 08 18:17
GoForbes28I know realize he meant he was asking if I were Pro-Windows in my views?Jan 08 18:17
GoForbes28I am most definitely notJan 08 18:18
GoForbes28So you can rest easyJan 08 18:18
GoForbes28:)Jan 08 18:18
GoForbes28Windows in general is a garbage dump that gets bigger and bigger with each new iterationJan 08 18:18
twitterLook what bong found for me http://www.manta.com/c/mt7w4bt/tech-rightJan 08 18:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tech Right - Livermore, California (CA) | Company Profile .::. Size~: 49.42 KBJan 08 18:19
GoForbes28You should see the useless crap they put in DLLsJan 08 18:19
twittera small documentation company, recently formed with the name Tech-Right.Jan 08 18:19
GoForbes28If it was Free software I bet Windows would be 80% smallerJan 08 18:19
GoForbes28twitter: figuresJan 08 18:19
twitterIf Windows were free software, it would look like free software.Jan 08 18:19
schestowitzYahoo and Bong still bang on itJan 08 18:20
MinceRyou should see the useless crap they do instead of loading DLLs properlyJan 08 18:20
schestowitzHow long before robots.txt checks typically?Jan 08 18:20
twitterThe same way BSD and GNU/Linux basically all offer the same desktop packages.Jan 08 18:20
MinceRm$ sucks so hard they couldn't implement shared librariesJan 08 18:20
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Shared_library#Shared_librariesJan 08 18:21
TechrightsBot-trError processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 ForbiddenJan 08 18:21
twitterMicrosoft does not share.  It is a non free software issue, non cooperation, that leads to these problems.Jan 08 18:21
MinceRthey can't code their way out of a wet paper bagJan 08 18:21
GoForbes28My dad actually gave an example of the way Microsoft approaches its productsJan 08 18:21
MinceRlet some people worship themJan 08 18:21
twitterMicrosoft is simply worse than others.Jan 08 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Time for me to shut up now, and grab another cup of Kicking Horse Fair Trade coffee (Hoodo Joe) and get back to !mynovel !editJan 08 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm How come ? Americans go to Canada to make their movies...Jan 08 18:22
gnufreex Get your facts straight! Windows has no bugs that any significant number of users want fixed!Jan 08 18:22
MinceRlol, rightJan 08 18:22
gnufreexlolJan 08 18:22
gnufreexIf you want something fixed, you are minority, and you are not important.Jan 08 18:22
MinceRit has no significant number of users that even realize that there are bugsJan 08 18:22
GoForbes28well not Microsoft in particular but American industry specifically vs. Japanese industry under the mindset of Dr. Demming, one of the smartest american business men ever existingJan 08 18:22
gnufreexEvery user wan some other bug fixed, so they are all minority.Jan 08 18:22
MinceRand that it's in fact possible to do software in a less shitty wayJan 08 18:23
twitterWindows has no bugs that any number of significant users want fixed!Jan 08 18:23
MinceRwinblows itself is the bug anywayJan 08 18:23
GoForbes28In America, a truck design is produced, and over time each generation of truck grows larger and larger because of part size problems, inefficiencies, bigger engines, etc.Jan 08 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FAIL #UK: "Royal Family granted new right of secrecy" http://www.infowars.com/royal-family-granted-new-right-of-secrecy/Jan 08 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith less choice = more profit (why they want ever tighter copyright laws and control)Jan 08 18:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Royal Family granted new right of secrecy .::. Size~: 49.91 KBJan 08 18:23
GoForbes28Eventually, the tunnels that the trucks go through are too small for them to fit inJan 08 18:24
GoForbes28The American approach is to build bigger tunnelsJan 08 18:24
GoForbes28The Japanese and others' approach is to build a more efficient truck that is smallerJan 08 18:24
twitterI have pdf prints of the search results above.  I can make screen shots of them if anyone wants them.Jan 08 18:25
GoForbes28Same with MicrosoftJan 08 18:25
gnufreexDo you guys know that MS stole NT from DEC?Jan 08 18:25
gnufreexIt was DEC's research projectJan 08 18:25
gnufreexAnd they canceledJan 08 18:25
gnufreexitJan 08 18:25
GoForbes28Build a bigger hard driver and increase system requirements, but don't make the easier part more efficientJan 08 18:25
gnufreexIt was called MicaJan 08 18:25
GoForbes28I thought it was just a ripoff of OS/2Jan 08 18:25
twitterM$ stole developers, and ruined their work.Jan 08 18:25
GoForbes28Nt that isJan 08 18:25
gnufreexGoForbes28: No, that is what it supposed to beJan 08 18:26
GoForbes28ah, but DEC Mica is what if becameJan 08 18:26
gnufreexBut MS decided to screw IBM, when they got their hands on MicaJan 08 18:26
GoForbes28*itJan 08 18:26
gnufreexhttp://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/30/readers-write-how-microsoft-got-windows-nt/Jan 08 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Readers Write: How Microsoft got Windows NT — RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 41.75 KBJan 08 18:26
GoForbes28Microsoft likes stealing developers developers developers developersJan 08 18:26
gnufreexMica was the reason why MS broke partnership with IBMJan 08 18:26
gnufreexThey simply didnt need IBM anymoreJan 08 18:27
gnufreexWhen they got Mica from Dave CutlerJan 08 18:27
GoForbes28Well, DOS was just another product they boughtJan 08 18:27
gnufreexWho quit DEC becausae Mica was canceledJan 08 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #UK #policestate: "UK Library: Cryptome Blocked for “Criminal Activity”"http://ur1.ca/2s6ikJan 08 18:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Library: Cryptome Blocked for “Criminal Activity” .::. Size~: 61.42 KBJan 08 18:28
GoForbes28Imagine if the partnership with IBM never happened and the Microsoft had been forced to play fairJan 08 18:28
MinceRthere would be no m$, thenJan 08 18:28
GoForbes28they would be developing Xenix I guessJan 08 18:28
twitterthe result of these efforts is still an ugly toy OS called Windows.Jan 08 18:28
MinceRthey would have been sued out of existence by DRIJan 08 18:28
MinceRor rather, there would have been nobody to sell the stolen CP/M-86 code toJan 08 18:28
gnufreexMica was Microkernel initialy. But bill gates decied to put everything into kernel spaceJan 08 18:28
GoForbes28And OS/2 7 would be a common OSJan 08 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <really> off to !edit :DJan 08 18:28
gnufreexEven window managerJan 08 18:28
MinceRi'm not sure if there would have been an OS/2Jan 08 18:29
gnufreexso they broke beatiful OS.Jan 08 18:29
GoForbes28OS/GNU? :PJan 08 18:29
MinceRi'm guessing they would have either got genuine CP/M or UnixJan 08 18:29
gnufreexMica wasn't designed for x86, it was intended to run on PRISM, which was desinged to have fast context switching. So microkernel deign didn't hamper performanceJan 08 18:30
gnufreexBut on x86 is suckedJan 08 18:30
gnufreexSo they put everyting in kernel spaceJan 08 18:30
gnufreexand made a mess.Jan 08 18:30
MinceRironically, even after putting everything in kernel space, it was still slowJan 08 18:30
MinceRbut now it was also unstableJan 08 18:30
MinceRwhat a bargain!Jan 08 18:31
gnufreexAnd to make things even more ironic, they ported it (back) to AlphaJan 08 18:31
gnufreex(which is offspring of PRISM)Jan 08 18:31
twitterBong search result for "software law" excludes Google's number 5 result, the software freedom law center.  I don't think that's an accident.Jan 08 18:31
gnufreexAnd it ran slower on Alpha than on x86Jan 08 18:32
gnufreexdespite Alpha being faster.Jan 08 18:32
gnufreexwith UNIX and other OSes, that is.Jan 08 18:32
twitterBong points to Berkeley law school instead.Jan 08 18:32
GoForbes28$$Jan 08 18:33
GoForbes28anywhoJan 08 18:33
GoForbes28in regards to Techrights site attacksJan 08 18:33
GoForbes28how about Torrents for the articles?Jan 08 18:34
GoForbes28So Roy writes an article with files, seeds it, and we all help seed?Jan 08 18:34
schestowitzHeyJan 08 18:34
twitterit would probably easier to republish the RSS feedJan 08 18:35
schestowitzGoForbes28: I reckon we'll solve this soonJan 08 18:35
twittercoolJan 08 18:35
schestowitzBut we could also make other distribution methodJan 08 18:35
MinceRor he could publish freenet and we could also join freenetJan 08 18:35
schestowitzToby offered to do hosting in canadia .ca mirrorJan 08 18:35
schestowitz*ianJan 08 18:35
GoForbes28Nice!Jan 08 18:36
GoForbes28Canadian techrights = winJan 08 18:36
schestowitzMicrosoft's malwarebots don't obey the robots fileJan 08 18:36
twitterthat figuresJan 08 18:36
MinceRblock them by useragent and/or ip range, thenJan 08 18:36
GoForbes28guess pure blocking is necessaryJan 08 18:36
GoForbes28or opennicJan 08 18:36
schestowitzMinceR: easier said than doneJan 08 18:36
GoForbes28I think the domains are available at no chargeJan 08 18:36
MinceRicJan 08 18:36
GoForbes28Tell AnonymousJan 08 18:37
schestowitzI can hardly get a response from the server nowJan 08 18:37
schestowitzBut it's not crashedJan 08 18:37
schestowitzI'll ask tessier for helpJan 08 18:37
GoForbes28When did this attacking start?Jan 08 18:38
tessiergrrrJan 08 18:39
tessierVery strangeJan 08 18:39
tessierEverything is ok with the server still this time.Jan 08 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] ok, postponing my work on the #tetra receiver for now, PHY and lower MAC work sufficiently well, we see LME and MM PDUsJan 08 18:40
tessierYou sure it's an attack?Jan 08 18:40
tessierI'll look for something to blockJan 08 18:40
schestowitzHey :-)Jan 08 18:41
schestowitzI tried blocking bong and yahooJan 08 18:41
schestowitzIn robots.txtJan 08 18:41
schestowitzIt has been like this since the server came backJan 08 18:41
schestowitztwitter also raised the possibility of the PHP flaw being used to cause crashesJan 08 18:41
gnufreexit is still down.Jan 08 18:41
schestowitzThough it would have been more widely reported by other sitesJan 08 18:41
gnufreexdamn MikeRoweSoftwaJan 08 18:42
gnufreexdamn MikeRoweSofttJan 08 18:42
schestowitztessier: it's hard to see a pattern other than lots from Yahoo and Bong [sic], it's always over load 10 and most pages just never come upJan 08 18:42
schestowitzIn December 2009 we had this problem before using varnishJan 08 18:43
GoForbes28Is there some way we could help with server load?Jan 08 18:43
gnufreexYahoo and bong are very curious.Jan 08 18:43
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gnufreexI am checking slashdot... it is not slashdot.Jan 08 18:43
tessierAh.Jan 08 18:43
tessierI see the problem. After the problem this morning the virtual machine came up with less RAM than it should have.Jan 08 18:43
tessierNo attack at allJan 08 18:43
*tessier checks the configJan 08 18:43
tessierYep, config on the new machine was different. Now they are the same. I need to set up automatic sync of these things.Jan 08 18:43
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tessierAll set now.Jan 08 18:44
tessierWas just swapping too much.Jan 08 18:44
GoForbes28wowJan 08 18:44
gnufreexWait... wasn't Yahoo!! Bonged? Why are their spiders on Techrights when they don't have search engine anymore?Jan 08 18:44
gnufreexIt should be Bong spiders onlyJan 08 18:45
gnufreexMaybe Bong spiders are in disguise.Jan 08 18:45
gnufreexlolJan 08 18:45
GoForbes28oh wellJan 08 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to a party. Wearing the shades inside... It's all @jonkulp's fault.Jan 08 18:45
twitterthanks tessier, let's see how it works.Jan 08 18:46
GoForbes28Hey, we just have a model of overinvestment!Jan 08 18:46
GoForbes28If we had implemented all of those ideas, we be doing the exact same thing pre-DOTCOM bustJan 08 18:46
twitterstill a little slow hereJan 08 18:46
gnufreexschestowitz: What does followfriday means? I mean identica tag?Jan 08 18:47
twitterflunkJan 08 18:48
schestowitzgnufreex: I'll see if the wiki can add adminsJan 08 18:48
twitter Guru Meditation:     XID: 39145055Jan 08 18:48
schestowitzgnufreex: on friday people recommend people to followJan 08 18:48
gnufreexAhaJan 08 18:49
gnufreexI will recomend myself on next friday :>Jan 08 18:49
twitterPJ had picked up a few Techrights stories recently.  That probably explains new M$ interest.Jan 08 18:49
GoForbes28So we can be admins so we can delete the spam articles?Jan 08 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @mlinksva RT @glynmoody Multiple Activists and Members of the Pirate Party Arrested in Tunisia - http://bit.ly/hshpH5 more bad stuff ...Jan 08 18:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking: Multiple Activists and Members of the Pirate Party Arrested » ZeroPaid.com .::. Size~: 35.5 KBJan 08 18:49
schestowitzGoForbes28: I'm not sure if it has that option, I'll checkJan 08 18:51
GoForbes28I think Wikis have that optinJan 08 18:51
GoForbes28At least my wikia did, and it was the same version as WikipediaJan 08 18:52
schestowitzI can't even access the site nowJan 08 18:52
GoForbes28down for me tooJan 08 18:52
GoForbes28tessier?Jan 08 18:52
gnufreexI dented about attacks.Jan 08 18:53
GoForbes28Error 503 Service UnavailableJan 08 18:55
GoForbes28Service UnavailableJan 08 18:55
GoForbes28Guru Meditation:Jan 08 18:55
GoForbes28XID: 39145616Jan 08 18:55
gnufreexWhen will Guru finish his meditation?Jan 08 18:55
schestowitzThat's the cacheJan 08 18:56
gnufreexI know. lolJan 08 18:56
gnufreexforgot to say lolJan 08 18:56
gnufreexlolJan 08 18:56
GoForbes28Post your articles on IRC!Jan 08 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] #Microsoft Bong [sic] and Yahoo! spiders are performing DDoS attacks against !Techrights. The site is down due to load. !fs !gnu !linuxJan 08 18:57
GoForbes28Or through multiple Identi posts :PJan 08 18:57
twitter"Apple has removed VLC media player from the App Store, putting an end to the controversy on the license (in)compatibilities. Indeed, the iTunes page for VLC media player stopped working. VLC developer Rémi Denis-Courmont notes that he is 'not going to pity the owners of iDevices, and not even the MobileVLC developers who doubtless wasted a lot of their time. This end should not have come to a surprise to anyone.'"Jan 08 18:57
twitterhttp://planet.videolan.org/Jan 08 18:57
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GoForbes28gnurfreex, can you subscribe to me on Identi?Jan 08 18:58
GoForbes28so we can share postsJan 08 18:58
gnufreexAll praise Remi!!!Jan 08 18:58
GoForbes28Right now, all I have is Ron'sJan 08 18:58
GoForbes28identi.ca/goforbes28Jan 08 18:58
gnufreexiGroan and iBad users should buy more Free devices if they want Free Software awasomness.Jan 08 18:59
schestowitzgnufreex: it's not a DDOSJan 08 18:59
schestowitzThey just work heavilyJan 08 18:59
schestowitzIt's MSDOSJan 08 18:59
schestowitzMulti-Source Denial of DERVICEJan 08 18:59
schestowitzAnd I'm not sure what's going on. tessier is trying to figure out why we had the problems repeatedly.. he even moved it to another serverJan 08 19:00
schestowitzWe haven't had so much difficulty in a long timeJan 08 19:00
gnufreexHow much bandwith server has?Jan 08 19:01
schestowitzbrbJan 08 19:02
schestowitzgnufreex: no limit I know ofJan 08 19:02
GoForbes28kkJan 08 19:02
GoForbes28gnufreex, I'll add you too to IdentiJan 08 19:03
GoForbes28as a friendJan 08 19:04
gnufreexok, I will add you. How is you nick ther?Jan 08 19:04
gnufreexeJan 08 19:04
gnufreexIs it same?Jan 08 19:04
GoForbes28yeahJan 08 19:05
GoForbes28identi.ca/goforbes28Jan 08 19:05
gnufreexaddedJan 08 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @gnufreex This is a travesty.Jan 08 19:05
schestowitzThe server hardly responds but it's shown as though it has no heavy loadJan 08 19:08
schestowitzI'm not sure what's going onJan 08 19:08
GoForbes28what's techright's ip?Jan 08 19:08
gnufreexGoForbes28: I had to look up what travesty means :>Jan 08 19:09
cubezzzschestowitz, you might want to just try a rebootJan 08 19:09
schestowitzI can'tJan 08 19:12
GoForbes28out for lunch, may be back laterJan 08 19:12
GoForbes28see yaJan 08 19:12
twitterMicrosoft has tried to reboot Bong several times.  Each new name has brought the same result.Jan 08 19:12
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schestowitzFirst week of 2001 has been worst since 2009Jan 08 19:13
twitterSpace OdysseyJan 08 19:13
cubezzzjust downloaded SingularityJan 08 19:13
twitteroff to lunch myself bbl.Jan 08 19:14
cubezzzno, you mean 2011 I think :)Jan 08 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bradley Manning, Solitary Confinement and Selective Outrage http://is.gd/knMez !wikileaks #cablegateJan 08 19:15
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schestowitztessier: are you around?Jan 08 19:16
gnufreex[20:12:07] <cubezzz> just downloaded SingularityJan 08 19:16
gnufreexwhy do you need that crap? It is a doomsday device :>Jan 08 19:16
cubezzzcuriousityJan 08 19:17
cubezzzI haven't even run it yet :)Jan 08 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @birgittaj Today i talked with minister of Foreign Affairs, minister of Justice & President of Icelandic Parliament: more to come soonJan 08 19:17
gnufreexI ran it once, still have nightmares.Jan 08 19:18
cubezzzonce I saw it was written with C# I lost interestJan 08 19:18
gnufreexIt is worse than C#Jan 08 19:18
gnufreexIt is Sing#Jan 08 19:18
cubezzzahJan 08 19:18
cubezzzsounds ominousJan 08 19:18
gnufreexIt is like COBOL^2Jan 08 19:19
schestowitzOK, I think I got it sorted outJan 08 19:25
schestowitzRetarted apacheJan 08 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 8/1/2011: GIMP 2.8 Status Update, Ubuntu GNU/Linux Ported to Nook http://is.gd/knOpN !techrightsJan 08 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @xenijardin ♺ @BreakingNews ♺ @Reuters: FLASH: Congresswoman Gifford dies after being shot in the head at public appearance in Tucson, AZJan 08 19:27
gnufreexschestowitz: I just now saw that you have croatioan! That is same as serbian :-)Jan 08 19:28
schestowitzoh...Jan 08 19:29
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schestowitzload average: 11.03, 6.15, 4.15Jan 08 19:30
schestowitzOh, there it goes...Jan 08 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @threethirty ♺ @xenijardin: Palin website with a bullseye over Gabrielle Gifford's district is down now: http://www.takebackthe20.com/Jan 08 19:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @GoForbes28 I've upped you to wiki sysopJan 08 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We've been having many downtime issues so far this year, hopefully it will improve soon. !techrightsJan 08 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] BoingBoing: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot dead in Arizona, was on Palin's infamous "target" map http://ur1.ca/2s73y <<assassination?Jan 08 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm she may be alive under surgeryJan 08 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] THIS is why "joking" about assassination is NOT on, Tom #Flanagan .... http://ur1.ca/2s73y !wikiLeaks #assassinationpolitics?Jan 08 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Thanks. I hope she survives. Still makes my blood run cold.Jan 08 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona, was on Palin's infamous "target" map (Updated) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 47.45 KBJan 08 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Links 8/1/2011: GIMP 2.8 Status Update, Ubuntu GNU/Linux Ported to Nook http://is.gd/knOpN !techrightsJan 08 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] xf86-video-intel 2.14.0, Intel 2010Q4 Released: Not only was Mesa 7.9.1 / Mesa 7.10 released last night while I ... http://bit.ly/fr95I8Jan 08 19:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Mesa 7.10, Mesa 7.9.1 Released To The Wild: Mesa 7.10 has been released!.. http://bit.ly/dM165hJan 08 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in surgery (fingers crossed) http://ur1.ca/2s73y #BecketEffect?Jan 08 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "According to Matt Asay setting the world Free amounts to “losing”." http://is.gd/knRc6Jan 08 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @skhaen WikiLeaks demands Google and Facebook unseal US subpoenas http://ur1.ca/2s4ljJan 08 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Our server/service is still not stable, so I'll just perform maintenance and not post many new articles. What a crazy week... !techrightsJan 08 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin RT @Reuters: FLASH: Congresswoman Giffords still alive, in surgery, 9 other patients brought in from shootingJan 08 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @Frauenfelder: ♺ @stevesilberman: The little elves at @sarahpalinusa's websites must be busy this morning. Scrub, scru ...Jan 08 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Reuters: FLASH: Congresswoman Giffords still alive, in surgery, 9 other patients brought in from shootingJan 08 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin Palin has blood on her hands. >> Yes. It doesn't even matter whether by direct action, or by #BecketEffectJan 08 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Frauenfelder ♺ @dbostrom Giffords' opponent held target-shooting events to "target" her during election. http://tinyurl.com/27fbajvJan 08 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @BreakingNews: Update: Conflicting reports about Giffords - Reuters now reporting she's alive and in surgeryJan 08 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz with 127 dents!Jan 08 19:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] King Henry II: "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" inspiring supporters to murder Thomas à Becket in 1170 #BecketEffect #GiffordsJan 08 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm rt @xenijardin Palin has blood on her hands. >> Yes. It doesn't even matter whether by direct action, or by #BecketEffectJan 08 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @maloki @laurelrusswurm rly DISGUSTING .... the assasination thing.Jan 08 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] what's a splitpoint and why is its index out of range? !identicurseJan 08 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rcweir @lnxwalt Give the choice between transparency and trust, I'll take transparency. //orthogonal?!Jan 08 20:05
schestowitzMinceR: Orban seems radical... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/hungary/8220836/Hungarys-new-media-law-puts-EU-presidency-in-doubt.htmlJan 08 20:07
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schestowitzMinceR: http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/a-pharisee-on-the-hungarian-presidency/Jan 08 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm King Henry II: "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" inspiring supporters to murder Thomas à Becket in 1170 ...Jan 08 20:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @declanm: Twitter on Wikileaks subpoenas 1/2: "We're not going 2 comment on specific requests, but, to help users protect their rights.."Jan 08 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Icelandic MP fights US demand for her #Twitter account details http://is.gd/knX0i "Twitter would not comment on the case." So it gave in?Jan 08 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @declanm: 2/2: "it's our policy 2 notify users abt law enforcement..requests for their information, unless..prevented by law"Jan 08 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] My Prediction of 'Nix Based System Usage Share For January 2012 - http://bit.ly/gczJi6 #Linux #Windows #OSX #IOS #Android #ChromeJan 08 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Icelandic MP fights US demand for her #Twitter account details http://is.gd/knX0i "Twitter would not comment on the case ...Jan 08 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz RT @declanm: 2/2: "it's our policy 2 notify users abt law enforcement..requests for their information, unless..prevented ...Jan 08 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disagreeing with foreign policy now justifies subpoena _over_ people overseas? No boundaries? No shame? No introspection.Jan 08 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz If we are to anthropomorphise corporations they would have to be sociopaths. Of course Twitter must give in.Jan 08 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz not just people overseas, MEMBERS OF SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS overseas. @birgittaj is Member of Parliament AND involved w/UNJan 08 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Reuters Congresswoman #Giffords shot, badly wounded in Arizona http://reut.rs/hOIyxh #assassinationpolitics? #BecketEffect?Jan 08 20:25
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PreteMoiParis/status/23794748154191872Jan 08 20:26
TechrightsBot-tr@PreteMoiParis: Smells like Mcarthyism RT @ch_s @pretemoiparis : ♻ @schestowitz DOJ sends order to Twitter for Wikileaks-related info http://is.gd/knb8bJan 08 20:26
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GoForbes28backJan 08 20:26
schestowitzHiJan 08 20:26
GoForbes28I see the site is up again :)Jan 08 20:26
schestowitzI'm reluctant to write postsJan 08 20:26
schestowitzBut we can work on the wiki nowJan 08 20:27
schestowitzI gave you privsJan 08 20:27
GoForbes28privs?Jan 08 20:27
schestowitzjust don't edit front page cause it's problematic to editJan 08 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm but !Wikileaks showed us that #Clinton misuses her authority to spy on the UN, too. There's a bully inside the club...Jan 08 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Gotta love Satire - article about Ebooks destroying kid's research skills - http://bit.ly/hKBFOcJan 08 20:27
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schestowitzprivileged  to delete and stuffJan 08 20:27
schestowitzSo that you can purge spamJan 08 20:27
GoForbes28niceJan 08 20:27
schestowitzand add more sutff without restrictionsJan 08 20:27
schestowitzYou command the topics, so I put trust in youJan 08 20:28
GoForbes28I won't let you downJan 08 20:28
schestowitzTBH, right now I just try to keep the site up, serving pagesJan 08 20:28
schestowitzIt has been a crazy weekJan 08 20:28
GoForbes28There wasn't any other connection problem this week, at least from my perspectiveJan 08 20:29
schestowitzCertain times it was downJan 08 20:29
schestowitzI'll just post the urgent newsJan 08 20:29
schestowitzI have too much else... puts me down..Jan 08 20:30
GoForbes28Is it the server swap file as tessier suggested or is it actually an external attack?Jan 08 20:30
schestowitzJusg did a linecount... 6500 lines in draftsJan 08 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] USA, do you notice you are becoming more and more what you pretend to fight? http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/08/congresswoman-gabrie.htmlJan 08 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @schestowitz: ♺ @lnxwalt140 Link between vaccine and autism fraudulent: http://is.gd/kk1fiJan 08 20:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] When you word count a document with !Abiword !OpenOffice and MS Word you get three different figures. This is tricky. What gives anyway? !loJan 08 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear USA -is this the kind of democracy you want to bring to the world with your armed forces? Shame on you. #Angry http://ur1.ca/2s7p2Jan 08 20:37
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GoForbes28Why not post the articles in the wiki?Jan 08 20:40
GoForbes28Or heck, post the articles in the simplest way possibleJan 08 20:41
GoForbes28plain text, with no extraneous dataJan 08 20:41
GoForbes28so the server loads only the necessitiesJan 08 20:41
GoForbes28There's gotta be a wayJan 08 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] SIP Communicator now at build 3209!Jan 08 20:44
schestowitzGoForbes28: too much workJan 08 20:44
schestowitzAlso, load is too high againJan 08 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @DVNJr Witness: gunman approached Giffords "from behind, held a gun a foot from her head and began firing." http://nyti.ms/fyRCydJan 08 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm What happened there ??? Another crazy gunman, gunning down people??? US has lots of this...Jan 08 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] had 4 brownouts in the last hour or so, getting pissed off at the PC suddenly rebootingJan 08 20:45
TechrightsBot-trSSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details:Jan 08 20:45
GoForbes28Let's hope this blows over in the next couple of daysJan 08 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ThePMSaidSo: Hey remember when we used to paint the picture of the Liberals being too chummy with big business? Almost ironic now, eh?Jan 08 20:47
GoForbes28In the meantime, can you save any articles you have as a MHT or something?Jan 08 20:47
GoForbes28I then could set up a torrent file so we could share the new articles/podcasts without causing increased server loadJan 08 20:48
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GoForbes28And do you have an opinion on OpenNICJan 08 20:48
GoForbes28?Jan 08 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "The doctor described the gunman as a white male in his mid-20s with short hair and “dressed in a shabby manner.” - not Muslim, I guess.Jan 08 20:49
schestowitzHold on, dealing with server load...Jan 08 20:49
GoForbes28kkJan 08 20:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear victims and family members - it's a tragedy. Dear Tea Party, Palin #Nowords #FAILJan 08 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am to upset to stay calm. After the whole #wl story now this AZ terrorism by (seemingly) US citizen. USA people - STOP this.Jan 08 20:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer I am to upset to stay calm. After the whole #wl story now this AZ terrorism by (seemingly) US citizen. USA people - STOP ...Jan 08 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer Dear victims and family members - it's a tragedy. Dear Tea Party, Palin #Nowords #FAILJan 08 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer @cmdln Dear USA not all iranians are terrorists ;-)Jan 08 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And ofcourse they will claim it's "just a lunatic" and not the result of a strange atmosphere promoted by tea party etc.Jan 08 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer @cmdln Dear World: Not all Americans are AssassinsJan 08 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zuargo/@zuargo] Gobierno de Estados Unidos pide a #Twitter que entregue datos de !Wikileaks http://clic.bz/hXYL6jJan 08 21:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @laurelrusswurm @cmdln I know. But this not just collateral damage. US people should not accept this. Political warfare, not democracy IMHOJan 08 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] !OMG Ubuntu: #MusicMe media player forced to change name, goes Tolkien http://goo.gl/TfLYcJan 08 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @threethirty Surgeon says the patient that died was a ~9 year old child <-saddest part of this ordeal >> !!!Jan 08 21:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jwildeboer Dear USA -is this the kind of democracy you want to bring to the world with your armed forces? Shame on you. #Angry http: ...Jan 08 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] http://ur1.ca/2s808 - The Apple store, GPL's, VLC and iRail's BeTrains app. Explained in human words+solution?Jan 08 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm Just a random shooting ??? No reasons, no words, just bang bang ???Jan 08 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith I am sure he felt he had a reason, people normally do. Violence is too easy to justify.Jan 08 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith For the people that do it that is.Jan 08 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @woodo79: Political dumbass who whips up fellow dumbasses using gun rhetoric at every opportunity now acting sad/shocked. Fuck off Palin.Jan 08 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @GregMitch: Gunman, naturally, has YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/0/7uRjwPWaxiYJan 08 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith The shooter is a Tea Party member with a you tube channelJan 08 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer @laurelrusswurm @cmdln I know. But this not just collateral damage. US people should not accept this. Political warfare, ...Jan 08 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @laurelrusswurm: @jwildeboer @cmdln Dear World: Not all Americans are AssassinsJan 08 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Sarah Palin, taking your #disturbing "take back the 20" site down is a sign of knowing it was wrong from the start. You #FAIL.Jan 08 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RT @GregMitch: Video "last thoughts" of alleged gunman--nutty, claims to be military recruit, hits "illiterates" ... http://bit.ly/gMgK2NJan 08 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer Did you know it wasn't taken down at first, just Congresswoman Giffords was removed.Jan 08 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody #OpenSource & #Fashion - you mean they are bringing back the Adam and Eve original look?Jan 08 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Jesus Christ, every year, there are random shootings in USA. And, not Al Qaeda, not foreign, but domestic terrorists, reasonlessJan 08 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm Republican ??? WTF ??? An extremist, for sureJan 08 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: MaeModder - all your favourite N900 tweaks in one place: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=6948Jan 08 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: qTraductor - Catalan translator based on Softcatala: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=6949Jan 08 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: TVBGone - "brute force" TV shutdown desktop widget for the N900: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=6950Jan 08 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: Does anyone know if Elliot Madison used #reportG20 tag during Pittsburgh G20 in 2009? If so, any screen shots? Thanks!Jan 08 21:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear youtube, don't shut down http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/0/7uRjwPWaxiY for infringing music. This is important history.Jan 08 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @PreemptDissent: Does anyone know if Pennsylvania State Police followed and/or used #reportG20 tag as part of G20 surveillance in 2009?Jan 08 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @Texrat: For those who missed the #MeeGo Greeters lightning talk at #meegoconf: http://www.slideshare.net/Texrat/meego-greetersJan 08 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @khertan: #Khweeteur 0.1.12 has just been pushed to #Maemo autobuilder : I ll call it 'Waiting in car garage edition' :)Jan 08 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith Agreed, but if gunmen who belonged to both NRA and Tea Party killed half the Usonian cabinet unfortunately not much would changeJan 08 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @jwildeboer it's not simple, the right to bear arms is in our nation's constitution.Jan 08 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith some think mentally imbalanced, government disgruntled, or both. Right now I don't care. A 9 year old child is dead.Jan 08 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @amazingatheist: In 2009, another gun nut showed up where Rep Giffords was speaking (at another Safeway) ... http://mmflint.me/gPnApkJan 08 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @GregMitch: Screen grab from alleged gunman's My Space page: pistol over White House and "United States History" http://yfrog.com/h2vlzpJan 08 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @rrix It is wrong. Fix it. Still need more proof just how wrong it is? Compromise: make bullets illegal, they are not mentioned AFAICS.Jan 08 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @swardley: I have no objections to people owning guns, I do have objections to people owning bullets.Jan 08 21:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith: Even in our own community, this sort of thing is not going to make Eric S Raymond apologetic for his NRA ways.Jan 08 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Bank charges 200,000 customers twice - Scotsman.com http://ow.ly/3AxvT « Another old new story I missed. I have to catch upJan 08 21:37
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/61786776Jan 08 21:38
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jan-11 21:29:24 UTC - Identi.ca: #Mono Boosters in !Ubuntu Have Conflicts of Interest, #LibreOffice Under Similar Threat http://is.gd/ko9kdJan 08 21:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @laurelrusswurm Mission accomplished? (I know my sarcasm is dangerous, forgive me)Jan 08 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] While gov wastes cycles on HOWTO accuse Assange, nutcracks shoot around. Today in one tweet/dent.Jan 08 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] "zomg guns kill people, let's outlaw guns" is the wrong answer.Jan 08 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @jaybaer: Hard for USA to claim moral high ground vs. radical Islam when our internal disagreements turn increasing violent & barbaric.Jan 08 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Weapons are instruments of evil - Lao TseJan 08 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Tao Teh Ching, verse 31Jan 08 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] 5 Satirists Attacked by People Who Totally Missed the Point - http://bit.ly/eJLsKJJan 08 21:44
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amarsh04http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/mobile-security-outrage-private-details-accessible-on-net-20110108-19j9j.htmlJan 08 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms 413 tser : Down going with dart-tubes are we. http://bit.ly/e0vxZB #amwriting #Chevenga #weblitJan 08 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith I agree; they are.Jan 08 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @LadyRockLaura: RT @Scott_Ian: Right now wherever George Carlin is he's so fucking pissed off about the "pussification" of Huck Finn. #fbJan 08 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Will gunman of AZ also get 7 mo in solitary confinement just as Bradley Manning? Or will s/o pull a Ruby on him tmrw?Jan 08 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Chevenga: Philosopher in Arms : The Haian rescue raid beginning. http://bit.ly/e0vxZB #weblit #Chevenga #reading #fantasyJan 08 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Federral judge dead. Confirmed by Obama in PR.Jan 08 21:49
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schestowitzamarsh04: taJan 08 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @neilhimself: Birgitta Jonsdottir (Icelandic MP), US Gov't, Wikileaks & Twitter Direct Messages: http://gu.com/p/2m9a9/tf (via @Glinner)Jan 08 21:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mobile security outrage: private details accessible on net http://is.gd/kodm2 "millions of Vodafone customers" Holy *!Jan 08 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith Ahh, Taoism and Budhism.Jan 08 21:52
amarsh04more news is trickling out about the vodafone problem... will check the news laterJan 08 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Does @skmliton speak the truth when he says: linux forum is hacked http://forum.linux.org.bd/ « I haven't read this elsewhere?Jan 08 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: RT @paulvieira Canada December data may signal stronger than expected #GDP growth, turning point http://bit.ly/fswlE5Jan 08 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Will gunman of AZ also get 7 mo in solitary confinement just as Bradley Manning? Or will s/o pull a Ruby on him tmrw?Jan 08 21:55
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amarsh04http://www.smh.com.au/world/habib-to-sue-us-and-egypt-over-torture-case-20110108-19j93.htmlJan 08 21:57
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schestowitzMaybe I made a mistake by posting, now people will get no pagesJan 08 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OMG! Ubuntu: Five ‘new’ screenlets for Ubuntu: Gmail, Clock and more http://ping.fm/5570VJan 08 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @Dahlialithwick judge Roll killed today was under protection after death threats assoc w civil rights trial http://huff.to/frzFLq #FAILJan 08 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith we have a difference of opinion between you and @thistleweb. I have a problem with deities myself prefer a philosophyJan 08 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb agentsmith is a practitioner, he says philosophyJan 08 22:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera But it serves both purposes, I face it more like a code of conduct and moral.Jan 08 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb let you off it is both.Jan 08 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera maybe not, I didn't read the context, just the questionJan 08 22:24
schestowitztessier: how can I help in finding out what causes the issue?Jan 08 22:27
schestowitzI wish I could do more to help and I appreciate what you do a lot... many of us do.Jan 08 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Instead of subpoenas on #wikileaks peeps, check the DMs if @sarahpalinusa for illegal stuff, dear DoJ.Jan 08 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer i know.... small problem: i don't like beer :(Jan 08 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer I have been watching what appears to be madness in countries I used to think sane (including my own)Jan 08 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer @Asher_Wolf: Iceland’s Minister of Foreign affairs Skarphédinsson will fight for Icelandic MP Birgitta Jónsdóttir #wl htt ...Jan 08 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Has Become an Embarrassment to Consumer Electronics Show (CES) http://is.gd/koli6Jan 08 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer Instead of subpoenas on #wikileaks peeps, check the DMs if @sarahpalinusa for illegal stuff, dear DoJ.Jan 08 22:37
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GoForbes28hiyaJan 08 22:39
GoForbes28did you get the server load normalized?Jan 08 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm @jwildeboer Was Sarah Palin inducing the murderer to commit the crimes ???Jan 08 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Pulseaudio is the worst pile of garbage to ever appear on Linux. Perhaps comes a second close to Mono...Jan 08 22:42
GoForbes28Sarah Palin is nuts, at the bare bare mininumJan 08 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jwildeboer Instead of subpoenas on #wikileaks peeps, check the DMs if @sarahpalinusa for illegal stuff, dear DoJ.Jan 08 22:45
GoForbes28http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulseaudio#AdoptionJan 08 22:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith Unknown; what is known is she says irresponsible things and her website "targetted" Congresswoman... assassin seems 2b/TeaPartyJan 08 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm Oh, dear God...Jan 08 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @laurelrusswurm Keep up the good fight! :)Jan 08 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zuargo/@zuargo] Steve Jobs se hace cargo de !Wikileaks http://bit.ly/e0FcT6 < antiguo pero interesante WTF?Jan 08 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Watching !DS9 there is just some of the episods there need some scrolling :-) and a 2nd beer but a nice show. But i miss the EnterpriseJan 08 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan VLC-on-iOS issue bubbling up. Sad for the team who developed it. Hope this begins a dialog on making iPhone-store rules GPL-com ...Jan 08 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @agentsmith The haircross site that was taken down and the RELOAD rhetoric for sure didn't create coziness IMHO.Jan 08 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @evan: It also shows to people that the gatekeeper exists and is not from a benevolent dictatorship regime #apple #store #ios #vlc #thesteveJan 08 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @appelond The writing in DS9 is great, much better than VOY/ENT and sometimes even TNG. Music not as good as TNG season 1-4 though.Jan 08 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @goforbes28 But 2x15 is a little of the tip for me...Jan 08 23:12
twitterI'm back.  Here is an interesting list of mono dependent applications in Ubuntu and how to replace them http://www.khattam.info/howto-make-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-mono-free-2010-08-14.html#more-973Jan 08 23:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @appelond Have you watched Move Along Home yet? :PJan 08 23:15
twitterI was making sure cairo dock did not have mono dependencies.  Cairo dock is nice but it is very gnomish.Jan 08 23:16
twitterI'll add Khattam's article to your mono boosters article as a comment.Jan 08 23:20
GoForbes28I suppose one way to avoid mono would be to use XFCE, which looks and feels a lot like GNOME anywaysJan 08 23:21
GoForbes28MONO+GNOME=NauseaJan 08 23:21
cubezzzno one likes project trinity?Jan 08 23:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Some catholics thinking of offering shrift on Facebook. Waiting for first subpoena on that ;-)Jan 08 23:22
twitterI use E16 but want things like docks and that puts me at risk of sucking down mono as a dependency of something like Docky.Jan 08 23:22
twitterI'm glad someone here told me about Cairo Dock.Jan 08 23:22
twitterI'll have to check out XFCE's dock.  That might work too.Jan 08 23:23
twitterThe thing that won't work for me now is Kicker because KDE 4 turned it into something that only works with Plasma.Jan 08 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Gack - my inbox has exploded again!Jan 08 23:24
twitterThat is a big disappointment for me with KDE 4, I can't take pieces out onto lighter desktops.Jan 08 23:24
twitterWith KDE 3.5, Konqueror and Kicker made any window manager rock.Jan 08 23:24
twitterYou could use them with Window Maker, E16, TVWM, anything.Jan 08 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] GIMP Plugin Registry • by polygon | Multi scale http://ping.fm/2WE6xJan 08 23:25
twitterNow I'm looking at Gnome replacements and those annoy.Jan 08 23:25
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oiaohmKicker does not exist in KDE 4.x lineJan 08 23:25
cubezzzwhy not just use Project Trinity? :)Jan 08 23:26
oiaohmTrinity still has a long way togo.Jan 08 23:26
twitterI'm running a VM of Trinity + Ubuntu.  works great.Jan 08 23:26
oiaohmReally Kicker is one of the applications that got left behind and not ported forwards to QT 4 to save time.Jan 08 23:26
twitterOf course, I could just keep running Lenny and add Trinity to it.Jan 08 23:26
cubezzzyeah, that's exactly what I didJan 08 23:27
twitterVMs are wonderful for figuring that kind of thing out.Jan 08 23:27
oiaohmUpdate QT4 has taken a ton load of resources.Jan 08 23:27
oiaohmtrinity is still depending in large places on qt3 and qt3 emulation in qt4Jan 08 23:27
twitterI'm going to see for myself how much more resources it takes.Jan 08 23:28
cubezzzor you could just run straight KDE 3.5.10Jan 08 23:28
oiaohmYes I know KDE 4.x deside to cut a few items has hurt.Jan 08 23:28
cubezzznot a big different anywayJan 08 23:28
cubezzzdifferenceJan 08 23:28
twitterI'm making a Lenny image to use on my new laptop to see if there is any real performance difference.Jan 08 23:28
twitterI listed my complaints earlier.Jan 08 23:29
oiaohmKDE 3.5.10 depends on QT3 and the are key reason why QT3 and QT4 are not binary compadible.Jan 08 23:29
twitterThere's a lot to like in KDE 4, but I'm not sure that I'm ready to move my work to it.Jan 08 23:29
oiaohmQT3 internal structs had defects causing performance hits.Jan 08 23:29
twitterI'll see.Jan 08 23:29
twitterFile indexing is a pig.Jan 08 23:29
oiaohmMy KDE 4 has file indexing off.Jan 08 23:30
oiaohmIts happy.Jan 08 23:30
cubezzzyes but what hardware are you running for KDE 4?Jan 08 23:30
twitterI turn it off when I need to but I expect it to stabilize.Jan 08 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] @goforbes28 What episode and season is that? I am watching DS9 for the first time, i 1st watch Enterprise 2nd TNG and... voyager and now DS9Jan 08 23:30
cubezzzI have all systems <30 watt with p3 coppermine cpusJan 08 23:30
twitterI'm using a Core Duo thingy, X60.Jan 08 23:31
twitterit's fast but not quite as fast as I thought it should be.Jan 08 23:31
twitterPIII is a good CPU.Jan 08 23:31
cubezzzit isJan 08 23:32
oiaohmOld Nvidia with a old duel core 2 ghz amd 64.Jan 08 23:32
cubezzzI have a ton of them :)Jan 08 23:32
oiaohmWith 4 G of ram.Jan 08 23:32
oiaohmOk I need the ram for other things.Jan 08 23:32
cubezzzI'm even thinking building another 486 boxJan 08 23:32
twitterMy X30 is snappy with Lenny and produces considerably less heat than the X60.Jan 08 23:33
oiaohmReally next 12 all KDE performance shape should be able to be improved.Jan 08 23:33
oiaohmThinking at long last g++ will learn how to optimise C++ codeJan 08 23:33
cubezzzok, what is your cpu temp?Jan 08 23:33
cubezzzmine is 26.2 CJan 08 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Lizardoid A right wing blog reacts to the shooting: "1 down, 434 to go" http://lgf.bz/fKXfLK #giffords >> US Politicians: "Just say No"Jan 08 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @laurelrusswurm Like the U.S. banking system.Jan 08 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @thistleweb I usually read it while the twirly is going round after I press send.... and that's when i spot >my< typos #whenitstoolateJan 08 23:34
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twitterIt also uses less power, has a smaller battery and other benefits.  I don't know the CPU temp, I just know that the hand rest never heats up and I can put it on my lap.Jan 08 23:34
oiaohmWhat is your room temp.  cubezzzJan 08 23:34
cubezzzoh probably about 22 CJan 08 23:34
oiaohmMy amd64 here runs a nice stable 4 degress above room.Jan 08 23:34
oiaohmEven under load.Jan 08 23:34
twitterI'm not running ACPI and that helps alot for power consumption.Jan 08 23:34
twitterPIII was probably the last chipset by intel that was not screwed with ACPI and Vista DRM support garbage.Jan 08 23:35
twitterP4 was a huge power hog.Jan 08 23:35
oiaohmBasically any chip that is great than 8 degress above room seams to have issues long term.Jan 08 23:35
GoForbes28That support garbage doesn't effect other systems rgith now?Jan 08 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 There's a lot of that going around.Jan 08 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @appelond first season, 10th episodeJan 08 23:35
cubezzzoiaohm, the older p3's weren't too greatJan 08 23:36
cubezzzsome ran 60+ CJan 08 23:36
twitterall of the encryption hardware burns power, use it or not.Jan 08 23:36
oiaohmtwitter: due to bad design.Jan 08 23:36
cubezzzI'm not really sure what CPU is the best for wattageJan 08 23:36
oiaohmArm  cubezzzJan 08 23:36
GoForbes28All I used to know was that AMDs ran hotter than IntelJan 08 23:37
GoForbes28but that was a while agoJan 08 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb You think that is bad do not watch Family Guy when Lois becomes Mayor.Jan 08 23:37
oiaohmGoForbes28: that was up to amd64 chips.Jan 08 23:37
cubezzzoiaohm, no desktop mobo'sJan 08 23:37
cubezzzbit of a problemJan 08 23:37
twitterI agree, Ohm, encrypted buses are bad design.Jan 08 23:37
GoForbes28Twitter: Does that processor DRM crap affect GNU+Linux?Jan 08 23:37
twittermy X60 is hot shit, and not in the good way.Jan 08 23:38
twitterit won't boot without ACPI.Jan 08 23:38
cubezzzwhich processor are you talking about?Jan 08 23:38
oiaohmcubezzz: you saw the one from motorial. Ie dockable phone.Jan 08 23:38
oiaohmcubezzz:  you don't built a phone without being power effective.Jan 08 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb The whole women politician business of this thread that is.Jan 08 23:39
twitterI'd say that Vista hardware support harms GNU/Linux the way that Petter Guttman said it would.Jan 08 23:39
cubezzzall my hardware is pre-VISTA, and quite a bit of it is pre-2000Jan 08 23:39
oiaohmGoForbes28: Particularly thinking that MS own ACPI tests that say a motherboard is fine to run windows is sus.Jan 08 23:39
twitterI can use most of the hardware but it burns up more power than it should.Jan 08 23:39
oiaohmGoForbes28: Ie windows cannot run on a motherboard that passes MS ACPI tests let alone anything else.Jan 08 23:40
twitterIt's not as bad as actually running Vista or Windows 7 but I'd expect scaled up PIII would be a lot more efficient.Jan 08 23:40
oiaohmIt been one of the saving graces.  Motherboard makers have working to this fact and have started also testing with Linux to make sure there ACPI is at least some what sane.Jan 08 23:40
cubezzzLenovo's ThinkCentre M57p looks interestingJan 08 23:41
cubezzzvery green computerJan 08 23:41
twitterdinner time, bblJan 08 23:41
GoForbes28byeJan 08 23:41
twitterI'll check out that geen computer later.Jan 08 23:41
GoForbes28I have an ASUS K42F-A1, with Core i3Jan 08 23:42
GoForbes28it seems to run GNU+Linux alright, but the DRM effect worries meJan 08 23:42
cubezzzbah, I have a totally FOSS computerJan 08 23:43
cubezzzeven the bios is FOSSJan 08 23:43
oiaohmThat board Linux kernel can use the DRM on there as well.  GoForbes28Jan 08 23:43
oiaohmTPM chip is a double sided sword.  GoForbes28Jan 08 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @satipera lol, no, people are people and should be judged as individuals, and their ability to do the jobJan 08 23:44
oiaohmTPM chip can be used to improve the security of a OS Or it can be used to protect media.Jan 08 23:44
GoForbes28yeahJan 08 23:44
GoForbes28what extent does GNU+Linux utilize it?Jan 08 23:44
cubezzznah, I don't want TPMJan 08 23:44
GoForbes28cubezzz: what computer do you use?Jan 08 23:44
oiaohmGNU+Linux can fully use the TPM with you having the key.Jan 08 23:44
cubezzzI have a lab of computers GoForbes28Jan 08 23:44
oiaohmSo you are the DRM holder.Jan 08 23:44
cubezzzbut my fav is the gigabyte GA-6BXC with the p3, with Debian Lenny and Project TrinityJan 08 23:45
cubezzzit's also can boot into FreeDosJan 08 23:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @thistleweb Of course, but keep your fingers in your ears when on FG news reporter is asking if women are fit to be politicians :-)Jan 08 23:45
oiaohmDigital Rights Management comes down to who holds it.Jan 08 23:45
cubezzzbios has a ZIF socket :)Jan 08 23:46
oiaohmIf you are the person holding the Digital Rights Management and using to to prevent stuff from being nicked from system.  Its ok.Jan 08 23:46
oiaohmNow if some other third party holds it and uses it against you it is bad.Jan 08 23:46
cubezzzone thing I lack, and that's a good keyboard :-/Jan 08 23:46
oiaohmThe problem of Information Tech  Nothing is 100 percent bad.Jan 08 23:47
oiaohmThere is a bad way to use it.Jan 08 23:47
cubezzzexcept windows? :)Jan 08 23:47
GoForbes28Microsoft keyboards are great, and with M$ financial situation will hopefully get a lot cheaperJan 08 23:47
cubezzzdude, I'm not buying a Microsoft anythingJan 08 23:47
GoForbes28But that' because they aren't really built by MicrosoftJan 08 23:47
GoForbes28I knowJan 08 23:47
oiaohmcubezzz: windows make a good extra to use long side darn vulanable Linux for train coders what not todo.Jan 08 23:47
oiaohmSo yes it does have a use.Jan 08 23:48
GoForbes28Your computer has a P3?Jan 08 23:48
cubezzzGoForbes28, I have five p3'sJan 08 23:48
cubezzzand a zaurus :)Jan 08 23:48
oiaohmGoForbes28: Microsoft don't make keyboard.Jan 08 23:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Nothing wrong with women being politicians. It only makes a difference if they're criminally irresponsible or dumb as a stump.Jan 08 23:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Nothing wrong with men being politicians. It only makes a difference if they're criminally irresponsible or dumb as a stump.Jan 08 23:49
oiaohmGoForbes28: logitech make MS branded keyboards.Jan 08 23:49
GoForbes28testJan 08 23:50
GoForbes28hmmJan 08 23:50
GoForbes28I appear to be missing some of the messagesJan 08 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm Do not misunderstand me. Of course women have every right, I was just laughing at what they get away with on Family Guy.Jan 08 23:50
oiaohmMy client pm goes into a independ window.Jan 08 23:50
GoForbes28ahJan 08 23:50
GoForbes28I'm using the web client right nowJan 08 23:51
cubezzzoiaohm, I want a tux key instead of a windows key, and freedom keys instead of control keys :)Jan 08 23:51
GoForbes28PM seems to work off an onJan 08 23:51
GoForbes28cubezzz: :)Jan 08 23:51
cubezzza nice aluminium tux case badge would be nice tooJan 08 23:51
GoForbes28you could paint over themJan 08 23:51
oiaohmI have a simpler solution.Jan 08 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera I know. The first rule should be that anyone who wants to be a politician should be immediately disqualified.Jan 08 23:52
GoForbes28So Oiaohm, from the way you say it, installing GNU+Linux on my laptop would give access to the TPM keys?Jan 08 23:52
GoForbes28Or do I always have access?Jan 08 23:52
oiaohmhttp://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-ultimate/  Pure black keyboard.Jan 08 23:52
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oiaohmGoForbes28: Sorry breaking TPM is not that simple.Jan 08 23:52
oiaohmLinux can clear the TPM.Jan 08 23:53
oiaohmBut keys stored in the TPM you don't extract ever.Jan 08 23:53
GoForbes28"Clear the TPM"?Jan 08 23:53
GoForbes28Like flashing a BIOS?Jan 08 23:53
oiaohmchange the stored TPM keys to new ones.Jan 08 23:54
oiaohmSo causing anythign depending on TPM to work now to be bust.Jan 08 23:54
GoForbes28CoolJan 08 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: If it is all about public service as they claim, let's see how many want to do it on the national average wage.Jan 08 23:55
GoForbes28That's a good thing anywayJan 08 23:55
cubezzzer,  I don't think I want an all blank keyboardJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28so the hardware manufacturer can't do anything with the TPM anymoreJan 08 23:56
cubezzzit looks nice thoughJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28It'ls like Star TrekJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28with unlabeled keysJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28maybe paint them jelly-bean coloursJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28;)Jan 08 23:56
cubezzzyeah the original series had that didn't itJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28yeahJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28and the movies tooJan 08 23:56
GoForbes28TNG+ had numbered keysJan 08 23:57
oiaohmhttp://trousers.sourceforge.net/man/tpm_clear.8.html  Yes the TPM management program under Linux is of all things called trousersJan 08 23:57
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GoForbes28A TPM is good only when it has the user only in mindJan 08 23:57
GoForbes28If the keys are wiped by the Linux kernel, then it is doing just thatJan 08 23:58
GoForbes28Does it do this automatically?Jan 08 23:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera You have to be careful with that; could end up with only the rich being able to afford it. Better to disallow political ads...Jan 08 23:59
oiaohmNot automatically GoForbes28Jan 08 23:59
oiaohmSince Linux maybe using TPM as one of the methods to prevent attackers altering the system.Jan 08 23:59

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