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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] New SFDEBRIS REVIEW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqLF4tCeuXA ; VOY: Warlord | Jan 09 00:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: In Britain that would mean an MP would get about £25K plus legit expenses, I said average not minimum. | Jan 09 00:00 | |
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| oiaohm | http://trousers.sourceforge.net/man/tpm_setclearable.8.html TPM does have a weakpoint designed into it. GoForbes28 | Jan 09 00:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "tpm_setclearable"(8) manual page .::. Size~: 2.95 KB | Jan 09 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Disable use of Physical Presence for authorizating a clear operation until a reboot has occurred. | Jan 09 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Yes ever time TPM chip starts up Physical Presence clearing is possible. | Jan 09 00:02 |
| GoForbes28 | You would recommend doing this? | Jan 09 00:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] EFF Wins Landmark Ruling Freeing Promo CDs for Resale http://ping.fm/vEyz1 | Jan 09 00:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF Wins Landmark Ruling Freeing Promo CDs for Resale | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 12.88 KB | Jan 09 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Lot of with laptops and the like even with vista and the like install the TPM chip is not being used. | Jan 09 00:03 |
| oiaohm | But its a secuirty thing do you need the extra secuirty of a TPM? | Jan 09 00:03 |
| GoForbes28 | Not really | Jan 09 00:03 |
| GoForbes28 | I was thinking more from the extent that no one else would have *potential* keys to my laptop | Jan 09 00:04 |
| cubezzz | I'd rather run a foss bios | Jan 09 00:04 |
| GoForbes28 | Me too | Jan 09 00:04 |
| GoForbes28 | but this ASUS doesn't seem to be supported | Jan 09 00:04 |
| cubezzz | ah, but lots of asus boards are supported by coreboot | Jan 09 00:04 |
| GoForbes28 | Laptops too? | Jan 09 00:05 |
| cubezzz | unfortunately no | Jan 09 00:05 |
| GoForbes28 | even the latest core i3? | Jan 09 00:05 |
| GoForbes28 | oh | Jan 09 00:05 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: does coreboot have TPM support? | Jan 09 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie means to use TPM chip. | Jan 09 00:05 |
| oiaohm | To be a real prick. | Jan 09 00:05 |
| GoForbes28 | If Linux can use the TPM, would that give more control? | Jan 09 00:05 |
| GoForbes28 | Would that improve stablility? | Jan 09 00:05 |
| oiaohm | TPM is to prevent breaches. | Jan 09 00:06 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I doubt it | Jan 09 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Really does not help with stablity. | Jan 09 00:06 |
| cubezzz | but I'll ask them | Jan 09 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Ie if bootloader coreboot is loading is not TPM approved don't load it. | Jan 09 00:06 |
| oiaohm | And then the bootloader repeats the same process with the OS. | Jan 09 00:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: My point is that if it is about public service and they don't want to slum it on the average wage then better off without | Jan 09 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK, fair enough, that was an unbearable pun, but the point still stands :) | Jan 09 00:07 | |
| oiaohm | Nice thing now person cannot format machine unless they know how to break the TPM directly. | Jan 09 00:07 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, the word is coreboot doesn't support TPM | Jan 09 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Its a useful feature for laptops. cubezzz | Jan 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Let people boot into a like a guest account. | Jan 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Have the computer dial home. | Jan 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | But don't let them change the OS. | Jan 09 00:08 |
| oiaohm | For owners of machines this is a great feature of TPM. | Jan 09 00:08 |
| cubezzz | so they are locked out of all bootable devices I take it? | Jan 09 00:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: We only have the middle class and above representing us at the moment anyway, how much worse could it get? | Jan 09 00:09 | |
| oiaohm | Unless the bootable device contains something signed. | Jan 09 00:09 |
| oiaohm | And approved. | Jan 09 00:09 |
| oiaohm | This is when drm is in control of owner of hardware its good. | Jan 09 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Poor poor thief | Jan 09 00:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Toronto just elected a rich mayor (probably on the same page as Palin) Think he vowed to not draw a salary. http://ur1.ca/2sa5m | Jan 09 00:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rob Ford: Government is for the Wealthy « Spacing Toronto .::. Size~: 81.12 KB | Jan 09 00:10 |
| GoForbes28 | Ok OiaOhm | Jan 09 00:10 |
| GoForbes28 | let's say government or whatever decides to exploit TPMs sometime in the future | Jan 09 00:11 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem. | Jan 09 00:11 |
| GoForbes28 | in that case, would using GNU/Linux to wipe the TPM and and adding new keys would help? | Jan 09 00:11 |
| oiaohm | If the maker of hardware desided to use it against the owner of the machine you are in trouble. | Jan 09 00:11 |
| oiaohm | Since you will be forced to exploit the TPM design weakness. | Jan 09 00:12 |
| oiaohm | To be able to install anything on the machine. | Jan 09 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera There is that. But I think the problem is less the salaries than the special interests they seem beholden too. | Jan 09 00:12 | |
| GoForbes28 | Thx for the info | Jan 09 00:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Time for supper, bbl | Jan 09 00:13 |
| oiaohm | Issue with DRM is who is in control of it. | Jan 09 00:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm: Yes, the problem is that politics is not democratic it is for sale. | Jan 09 00:14 | |
| cubezzz | countries where TPM can not be legally deployed: | Jan 09 00:18 |
| cubezzz | Russia, China, Belarus and Kazakstan | Jan 09 00:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Sure looks that way from the peanut gallery. | Jan 09 00:19 | |
| oiaohm | China does not particularly like it due to what it can do for people trying to inspect stuff. | Jan 09 00:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @laurelrusswurm #disturbing. In germany this could be criminal. 1st amendment at its best? #Needmorewine | Jan 09 00:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer #alotmorewine | Jan 09 00:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] When you read the comments at http://tjic.com/?p=19638 you can only come t the conclusion that some part of US society are sick people. | Jan 09 00:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hope. #impressed. http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx | Jan 09 00:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt's Muslims attend Coptic Christmas mass, serving as "human shields" - Ahram Online .::. Size~: 102.56 KB | Jan 09 00:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff The best of #Cablegate: instances where public discourse benefited from the leaks. https://eff.org/r.w9x #Wikileaks #netfreedom | Jan 09 00:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Best of Cablegate: Instances Where Public Discourse Benefited from the Leaks | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | Jan 09 00:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer That's the most disheartening, that mindset this is acceptable. I'm still furious #Flanagan is uncharged (broke law here) !wl | Jan 09 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @laurelrusswurm in my case a Rioja: Cepa Lebrel, 2009. Cheap but tasty. | Jan 09 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer Thank you for that. | Jan 09 00:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer Hope. #impressed. http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx | Jan 09 00:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt's Muslims attend Coptic Christmas mass, serving as "human shields" - Ahram Online .::. Size~: 102.56 KB | Jan 09 00:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer That doesn't sound like beer. :D | Jan 09 00:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I do hope somebody puts the clips at http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/3365.aspx in a torrent so they cannot be ignored. | Jan 09 00:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @laurelrusswurm Nope, but at 1:39 AM red wine is quite OK ;-) Back to work on #freedentity ... | Jan 09 00:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@jeffjarvis Now that Echelon http://ur1.ca/2safu has been renamed to Facebook and Google, all is safe. | Jan 09 00:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Maybe the DHS should care more about the dangers of the homeland and less about | Jan 09 00:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Maybe the DHS should care more about what's happening in the homeland and less about abstract risks abroad. Gifford/Roll would agree IMHO | Jan 09 00:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Privacy In The United States - Or The Total Lack Thereof - http://bit.ly/gk7IPr #privacy #censorship #politics | Jan 09 00:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer red wine sometimes triggers headaches, so i usually opt for white | Jan 09 00:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] @rrix @nak er, onboardc.sf.net, sorry | Jan 09 00:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Playing with the idea of living on a cargo ship | Jan 09 00:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[johnsu01/@johnsu01] I can't believe the Seahawks just pulled that off. Wow! | Jan 09 01:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer Maybe the DHS should care more about what's happening in the homeland and less about abstract risks abroad. Gifford/Roll ... | Jan 09 01:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vanden @rootbrian I prefer found on road dead, but in context, your expansion is more appropriate. | Jan 09 01:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rootbrian High Definition is basically nothing more than wide fat high resolution. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! | Jan 09 01:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @xenijardin rt @KathrynC The problem with incitement to violence is that some crazy with a gun might act on it. >that's why irresponsible | Jan 09 01:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm @satipera I know. The first rule should be that anyone who wants to be a politician should be immediately disqualified. | Jan 09 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Sarah Palin tried to assassinate a Democrat that supported the health care bill http://ur1.ca/2save !wl #douchebags #fucktheteaparty | Jan 09 01:49 | |
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| " Windows Vista includes an extensive reworking of core OS elements in order to provide content protection for so-called “premium content”, typically HD data from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD sources. Providing this protection incurs considerable costs in terms of system performance, system stability, technical support overhead, and hardware and software cost. These issues affect not only users of Vista but the entire PC industry, since the e | Jan 09 01:50 | |
| http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html | Jan 09 01:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection .::. Size~: 187.88 KB | Jan 09 01:50 |
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| GoForbes28 | hello | Jan 09 01:59 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 09 02:03 |
| micky mouse circuit and "security" design ... " Vista includes various requirements for “robustness” in which the content industry, through “hardware robustness rules”, dictates design requirements to hardware manufacturers. ... if you design a new security system, you can't get it supported in Windows Vista until well-known computer security experts like MGM, 20th Century-Fox, and Disney give you the go-ahead (this gives a whol | Jan 09 02:16 | |
| " As an example of these “robustness rules”, only certain layouts of a board are allowed in order to make it harder for outsiders to access parts of the board. Possibly for the first time ever, computer design is being dictated not by electronic design rules, physical layout requirements, and thermal issues, but by the wishes of the content industry. " | Jan 09 02:16 | |
| *cubezzz stocks up on old motherboards | Jan 09 02:17 | |
| " This problem is a nasty catch-22 from which there's no escape. ... Even without explicit image degradation via constriction, the requirement to use the lower-quality HDMI link to carry what should be a DVI signal means that image quality is lost, and to make it even more painful the resulting graphics cards will be more expensive because it costs extra to add the quality-downgrading HDMI transmitter. In other words consumers will be pa | Jan 09 02:20 | |
| " everything has to be custom-designed and laid out so that there are no unnecessary accessible signal links on the board. This means that a low-cost card isn't just a high-cost card with components omitted, and conversely a high-cost card isn't just a low-cost card with additional discretionary components added, each one has to be a completely custom design created to ensure that no signal on the board is accessible. This extends beyo | Jan 09 02:22 | |
| " Increased Cost due to Requirement to License Unnecessary Third-party IP ... Protecting all of this precious premium content requires a lot of additional technology. Unfortunately much of this is owned by third parties and requires additional licensing. For example HDCP for HDMI is owned by Intel, so in order to send a signal over HDMI you have to pay royalties to Intel even though you could do exactly the same thing for free over DVI | Jan 09 02:24 | |
| Oh the magic of cross licensing! | Jan 09 02:25 | |
| " In order to prevent tampering with in-system communications, all communication flows have to be encrypted and/or authenticated. For example content sent to video devices has to be encrypted with AES-128. This requirement for cryptography extends beyond basic content encryption to encompass not just data flowing over various buses but also command and control data flowing between software component" so fun to reverse engineer. | Jan 09 02:27 | |
| GoForbes28 | for a laugh http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=232282 | Jan 09 02:27 |
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| GoForbes28 | Wow tritter | Jan 09 02:29 |
| GoForbes28 | I' | Jan 09 02:29 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm thinking we should start using component video again | Jan 09 02:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Analog is always a great fallback | Jan 09 02:29 |
| This is all from Gutmann who studied the problems extensively. What he said was born out in spades. | Jan 09 02:34 | |
| I don't use media that I can't decrypt with free software. | Jan 09 02:34 | |
| "decompression has to be integrated into the graphics chip. At a minimum this includes IDCT, MPEG motion compensation, and the Windows Media VC-1 codec (which is also DCT-based, so support via an IDCT core is fairly easy). As a corollary to the Increased Hardware Costs problem above, this means that you can't ship a low-end graphics chip without video codec support any more." | Jan 09 02:35 | |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Jan 09 02:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | and shipping a low end chip with that is easy | Jan 09 02:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can buy a video core that does dx11, opencl, and bluray decoding and it does it in under 10 watts for the core. | Jan 09 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | and its about 25 watts for the whole solution | Jan 09 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | so thats not really an issue anymore | Jan 09 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: btw, that commend about HDCP is wrong | Jan 09 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDCP _also_ works over DVI | Jan 09 02:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | and HDCP predates HDMI | Jan 09 02:38 |
| hardware decoding ... how flexible. | Jan 09 02:39 | |
| " As part of the bus-protection scheme, devices are required to implement AES-128 encryption in order to receive content from Vista. This has to be done via a hardware decryption engine on the graphics chip, which would typically be implemented by throwing away a GPU rendering pipeline or two to make room for the AES engine" | Jan 09 02:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | "to use the lower-quality HDMI link" | Jan 09 02:39 |
| The point I'm making is the harm done the hardware by these absurd requirements. | Jan 09 02:39 | |
| Diablo-D3 | except HDMI defers to the DVI spec for the video pins on basic devices | Jan 09 02:39 |
| according to Gutmann, DVI has better bandwith capabilities but must be shunted through inferior hardware for content protection | Jan 09 02:40 | |
| Diablo-D3 | higher mhz connections (required for for 120hz and/or 10-16 bits per channel and/or 3D on 1080p) have higher requirements | Jan 09 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: erm, its a digital connections | Jan 09 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | if its "inferior" the signal blanks out altogether | Jan 09 02:41 |
| take it up with Gutmann | Jan 09 02:41 | |
| Diablo-D3 | gutmann sounds like a troll | Jan 09 02:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | nothing hes saying adds up to the spec | Jan 09 02:41 |
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| the Microsoft people called him one but they were full of shit. | Jan 09 02:41 | |
| Diablo-D3 | also, early HDMI cables are about as thick as single link DVI cables | Jan 09 02:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | most DVI cables are dual link, and most are 6 foot or longer | Jan 09 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | longer cables == higher gauge | Jan 09 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | also | Jan 09 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | he should compare the in wall installation grade shit | Jan 09 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | its HUGE | Jan 09 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | shit goes like 50-100 feet without an amplifier/repeater | Jan 09 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | its nuts | Jan 09 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: so, the guys nuts | Jan 09 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | also, the encryption doesnt lower quality | Jan 09 02:45 |
| Gutmann thinks that HDMI is inferior to DVI. | Jan 09 02:45 | |
| Diablo-D3 | well, it "is" | Jan 09 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no dual link HDMI | Jan 09 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the higher spec modes of HDMI dont work on DVI devices that are strictly DVI only | Jan 09 02:45 |
| So routing what should be DVI trough HDMI leads to a degradation and you agree with Gutmann. | Jan 09 02:46 | |
| Diablo-D3 | so no 120hz mode on high resolutions, no >8bit per channel at all, and no automatic deepcolor support | Jan 09 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: I think you misunderstood | Jan 09 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDMI video _is_ DVI | Jan 09 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the same fucking spec | Jan 09 02:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | _later_ HDMI specs added additional modes that DVI devices are free to implement but are in no DVI spec | Jan 09 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDMI added a double mhz mode, for example | Jan 09 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | it requires extra thick cables to use | Jan 09 02:47 |
| you are talking in circles | Jan 09 02:47 | |
| Diablo-D3 | how so? | Jan 09 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDMI is a branch of the DVI family of specifications | Jan 09 02:47 |
| right, but is it an inferior sub group or not? | Jan 09 02:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | inferior? no | Jan 09 02:48 |
| like ATA was to SCSI | Jan 09 02:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I can plug an HDMI 1.1 connection into DVI or vice versa | Jan 09 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | and nothing changes | Jan 09 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: HDMI and DVI both have two way negotiation for features | Jan 09 02:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDMI just knows how to negotiate for additional features DVI devices aren't _required_ to support | Jan 09 02:48 |
| Gutmann seems to think that DVI allows higher bandwith than an HDMI spec. | Jan 09 02:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt. | Jan 09 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | DVI single channel maxes out at 1920x1200 @ 60hz @ 8 bits per channel | Jan 09 02:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDMI is DVI single channel on the video pins. | Jan 09 02:50 |
| " on some high-resolution displays require multiple DVI/TMDS links because single-channel DVI doesn't have enough bandwidth to support very high resolutions, requiring external TMDS transmitters. You can see this in the first image on a review of Macintosh video cards, which shows the dual-link DVI output used to drive Apple's 30″ Cinema Display (this actually requires two dual-link TMDS transmitters to support a second display, but I' | Jan 09 02:50 | |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: hes talking about something slightly unrelated | Jan 09 02:50 |
| heh | Jan 09 02:50 | |
| you are talking about things that are unrelated. | Jan 09 02:50 | |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: DVI dual link isnt supported on cables that are single link, plugs that are single link, devices that are single link, or mini-DVI plugs. | Jan 09 02:51 |
| Gutmann is talking about how Vista perverted hardware design and degraded quality in the name of content protection. | Jan 09 02:51 | |
| Diablo-D3 | how did they _degrade_ quality | Jan 09 02:51 |
| he's also talking about increased costs. | Jan 09 02:51 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the only thing that entire paragraph says is he cant do 2560x1600 on DVI single link | Jan 09 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is by fucking specification. | Jan 09 02:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | the HDMI plug nor the DVI single link plug nor the mini-DVI plug support dual link operation | Jan 09 02:52 |
| first off, everything approved for Vista had to pass by and be approved of by MGM, Disney and Sony. | Jan 09 02:52 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the first DVI specification had no dual link functionality | Jan 09 02:52 |
| You can imagine the kind of quality Disney will let you have. | Jan 09 02:52 | |
| Diablo-D3 | a later one added it | Jan 09 02:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | AND | Jan 09 02:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | _that_ specification is older than Vista | Jan 09 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the guy is a nutjob | Jan 09 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: but why doesnt he talk about HDMI having new features? | Jan 09 02:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, if he wants to say HDMI is inferior, why doesnt he also talk about DVI being inferior? | Jan 09 02:53 |
| Second off, hardware is saddled with hardware encryption and layout to hide places where someone might stick a tap wire. | Jan 09 02:54 | |
| Those are two amazingly bad restrictions on hardware. | Jan 09 02:54 | |
| Diablo-D3 | strict DVI devices _dont_ support the new double mhz mode HDMI has | Jan 09 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | that means no 120hz or >8 bit per channel on 1080/1200p | Jan 09 02:54 |
| woot, ask Mickey Mouse if you can have it. | Jan 09 02:54 | |
| Diablo-D3 | that also means no >1200p normally either | Jan 09 02:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | and strict DVI doesnt support deep color support signaling. | Jan 09 02:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | HDMI kept evolving when DVI stopped | Jan 09 02:55 |
| He summarizes the harm done, " Disabling of Functionality | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Indirect Disabling of Functionality | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Decreased Playback Quality | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Elimination of Open-source Hardware Support | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Elimination of Unified Drivers | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Problems with Drivers | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Denial-of-Service via Driver/Device Revocation | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Decreased System Reliability | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Increased Hardware Costs | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Increased Cost due to Requirement to License Unnecessary Third-party IP | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Unnecessary CPU Resource Consumption | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Unnecessary Device Resource Consumption" | Jan 09 02:56 | |
| Diablo-D3 | how did unified drivers die? | Jan 09 02:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can download an nvidia driver that does 5000 through 500 | Jan 09 02:56 |
| He explains it well and I've quoted him above. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html | Jan 09 02:56 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | I can download a radeon driver that does 2000 through 6000 | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and how does this DoS work? | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | you cant revoke HDCP keys | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres no mechanism for it | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and how does it make it less reliable? | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and how does it use CPU resources? | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Fortunately, industry never carried through with the dumbest of the restrictions, but Gutmann's reasoning is sound. | Jan 09 02:57 | |
| Diablo-D3 | and how does it use device resources? | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: nope, its not | Jan 09 02:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only thing he wins on is, yes, you pay the HDCP owners about half a cent per device. | Jan 09 02:58 |
| yes it is, nah nah | Jan 09 02:58 | |
| Diablo-D3 | none of those points are true. | Jan 09 02:58 |
| hmph. | Jan 09 02:58 | |
| Diablo-D3 | _none_ of this even applies if you're not using hdcp, too | Jan 09 02:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | and, btw, hdcp is a lossless encryption method | Jan 09 02:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | what goes in is what comes out | Jan 09 02:58 |
| Write up a paper about it and shop it in a few conferences. | Jan 09 02:58 | |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: why should I? | Jan 09 02:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont deal with trolls | Jan 09 02:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you shouldnt fall for them either | Jan 09 02:59 |
| good idea. | Jan 09 02:59 | |
| talking with devils is a waste of time. | Jan 09 02:59 | |
| http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1871&page=3 | Jan 09 03:01 | |
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Media_Path | Jan 09 03:01 | |
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| no harm done there | Jan 09 03:01 | |
| ha, look at that insanely complex circuitry that's added to all hardware. | Jan 09 03:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] "We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry." Sheriff Dupnik, Tucson, Arizona | Jan 09 03:02 | |
| it sucks down power, makes the hardware unreliable and costs money to make. | Jan 09 03:02 | |
| Diablo-D3 | complex != unreliable | Jan 09 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | and thats not even complex dude | Jan 09 03:03 |
| the funny thing is that the least reliable software will be the official software that respects trip bits and tries to actually make it work. | Jan 09 03:03 | |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: btw, I wonder if he realizes the HDCP master keys are out in the open | Jan 09 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can decode any HDCP stream. period. | Jan 09 03:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | so _entire argument is moot_ | Jan 09 03:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @wikileaks Already warned everyone. Privacy In The United States - Or The Total Lack Thereof - http://bit.ly/gk7IPr #privacy #politics | Jan 09 03:14 | |
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| that happened a few months ago, I believe. or perhaps that was blueray. Gutmann wrote his paper in 2007. | Jan 09 03:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: Protesters demand Blair's head, public inquiry into Harper's "obscene show of force" http://bit.ly/dT09Sz #cdnpoli #G20 | Jan 09 03:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WARNING all 637,000 @wikileaks followers are a target of US gov subpoena against Twitter, under section 2. B http://is.gd/koZIA !wl | Jan 09 03:17 | |
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| *cubezzz stocks up on old motherboards | Jan 09 03:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Too late to unfollow; trick used is to demand the lists, dates and IPs of all who received our twitter messages. !wl | Jan 09 03:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ogg-Vorbis version of the TechBytes Promo (CC-BY-SA) http://is.gd/kp38G !techrights #fsf | Jan 09 03:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @schestowitz I wonder, why is Intel trying to distance itself from DRM, if DRM is just as “great” as this feature in Sandy Bridge? | Jan 09 03:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fabsh what?! it was NOT a dildo?!? :-P :-D | Jan 09 03:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Help us fund Twitter Subpoena legal fight! http://alturl.com/6msx7 !wl | Jan 09 03:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva for the love of stallman, tell me you got a screen of the avatar! | Jan 09 04:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Cable TV – Does Anyone Watch That Crap? - http://bit.ly/eU1Xx1 | Jan 09 04:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Iceland blasts US government over Twitter subpoena http://alturl.com/2oe55 !wl | Jan 09 04:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @dictvm: Jake, Birgitta and Rop have been given the option to object. What about the followers? Class action suit? !wl | Jan 09 04:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Why John F. Burns hated the WikiLeaks Iraq War Logs | Greenwald http://is.gd/kpaIK !wl | Jan 09 04:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @encyclomundi Triumph. I have met #Xorg and defeated it. I now have 1366x768 screen resolution on my #archbang !archlinux install. I' ... | Jan 09 04:40 | |
| cubezzz | wow, German Sales tax is 19%? | Jan 09 04:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk my identica-mode session still had a copy of @fabsh's old avatar. saved. how do I get it to you? | Jan 09 05:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva http://piratepad.com would be great, since the rmsgnulinux.org domain(and my email) are down atm | Jan 09 05:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Teach for America, Inc. (TFA), Un Eufemismo de Gates para Adoctrinar a la Nueva Generación de Estado Unidenses http://is.gd/kpj0o #tfa #pr | Jan 09 05:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva sorry, bayimg, always type piratepad >< | Jan 09 05:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lxoliva @schestowitz I wonder,why is Intel trying to distance itself from DRM, if DRM is just as “great” as this feature in Sandy Bridge? | Jan 09 05:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !techrights is thankful to people who contribute a lot of time to make PDFs available to teachers in south America http://is.gd/kpjpJ [PDF] | Jan 09 05:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks/@wikileaks] wikileaks: Why John F. Burns hated the WikiLeaks Iraq War Logs | Greenwald http://is.gd/kpaIK http://tinyurl.com/24dtm4l | Jan 09 05:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ggoes/@ggoes] I Was Silent: http://iwassilent.me/ !wl | Jan 09 05:45 | |
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| tessier | http://www.techspot.com/news/41896-android-passes-iphone-in-the-us.html | Jan 09 05:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk http://bayimg.com/IAcnKaaDp /cc @fabsh from-fabsh-to-tekk-through-lxoliva | Jan 09 05:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] @lxoliva thanks | Jan 09 06:00 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier: yeah, it was inevitable and it's even better in Asia | Jan 09 06:06 |
| schestowitz | tessier: I think that Japan and the US are Apple's strongest areas | Jan 09 06:06 |
| schestowitz | tessier: CES showed some MeeGo devices too, proper GNU+Linux (LSB) | Jan 09 06:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @slashdot: Android Passes iPhone In US Market Share http://bit.ly/gAWZ2h | Jan 09 06:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Contributions Drive !Techrights http://is.gd/kpmrr #techrights !techbytes #downtime | Jan 09 06:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Why John F. Burns hated the WikiLeaks Iraq War Logs | Greenwald http://is.gd/kpaIK !wl | Jan 09 06:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @BreakingNews: Rep. Giffords reportedly awake in hospital room, recognizes husband - Politico http://politi.co/e5FRw4 | Jan 09 06:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Amazingly tired tonight. I should hit the hay. | Jan 09 06:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Iceland blasts US government over Twitter subpoena http://alturl.com/2oe55 !wl | Jan 09 06:14 | |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Jan 09 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear DoJ, let's save you some paperwork. #IFollowWikileaks | Jan 09 06:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer Dear DoJ, let's save you some paperwork. #IFollowWikileaks | Jan 09 06:42 | |
| oiaohm | http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/70419 schestowitz Yes intel presitation at CES | Jan 09 07:00 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/010711-is-the-microsoft-intel-marriage-finally.html As this one put it this year was different. schestowitz and tessier | Jan 09 07:02 |
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| oiaohm | No MS windows at the intel stand. | Jan 09 07:02 |
| oiaohm | http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Live-from-CES-2011-Pelagicore-demonstratws-Genivi-Meego-cross-platform-incar-solution/1294539408 Also meego made a showing in a field android is not. | Jan 09 07:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The New York Times Advertises the Gates Foundation http://is.gd/kpvcE #GatesFoundation #pr #nytimes #guardian | Jan 09 07:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Let's burn this town baby, and let's never look back. | Jan 09 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @evan “Arduino: The Documentary (2010)” — http://arduinothedocumentary.org/ #arduino #awesomeness #cc #openhardware | Jan 09 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer Dear DoJ, let's save you some paperwork. #IFollowWikileaks | Jan 09 07:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz: Sandy processors have a backdoor via integrated 3g chip to be remotely disabled even with a turned off computer! | Jan 09 07:59 | |
| tessier | Microsoft, of course, chose CES as the venue to introduce the first version of Windows to run on a processor based not on the Intel architecture but rather on ARM-based system-on-a-chips manufactured by TI, Qualcomm, and Nvidia. | Jan 09 08:10 |
| tessier | Hmm...Windows used to run on Alpha too. | Jan 09 08:10 |
| tessier | So that isn't quite right. | Jan 09 08:10 |
| oiaohm | tessier: don't forget PPC and others. | Jan 09 08:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Facebook doesn't give option to access contacts from Gmail anymore. Guess it's the M$'s partnership showing | Jan 09 08:32 | |
| cubezzz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2011/01/linux-audio-blog-9.html | Jan 09 08:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Right...Off now for a couple of days...time to get busy! | Jan 09 08:39 | |
| tessier | oiaohm: Windows ran on PPC? | Jan 09 08:39 |
| cubezzz | virtualPC I suppose | Jan 09 08:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Hi Tim, how r u doing ? Have some news about IM's with voip on Linux | Jan 09 08:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Hi! Yep Ive finished work for a couple of days...just catching up properly with everything going on! | Jan 09 08:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Well, my dad challenged me over Linux: This Linucs of yours doesn't work, Skype doesn't work. Well, guess what ? I got pissed | Jan 09 08:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] All boarded on sq810 to beijing. Long week ahead. #fb | Jan 09 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @shakthimaan Twidge is a tool for interacting with microblogging sites like Twitter and identi.ca, https://github.com/jgoerzen/twidge/wiki | Jan 09 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes And made not only Skype to work on his Mandriva box, but also Gmail voice and Ekiga. Chalk 3 more to the OSS guys! | Jan 09 08:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @glynmoody early draft open source hardware package specification - http://bit.ly/fhEocp good start (v @kanzure @harkopen) #openhardware | Jan 09 08:50 | |
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| tessier | We're only talking native implementations here. | Jan 09 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Added Abba compilation album to Musicbrainz.org | Jan 09 08:59 | |
| gnufreex | [09:37:21] <tessier> oiaohm: Windows ran on PPC? | Jan 09 09:01 |
| gnufreex | yes, windows NT ran on PowerPC | Jan 09 09:01 |
| gnufreex | And on MIPS, Alpha | Jan 09 09:01 |
| gnufreex | Clipper and SPARC | Jan 09 09:01 |
| tessier | Microsoft released Windows NT 3.51 for the architecture, which was used in Motorola's PowerPC servers | Jan 09 09:02 |
| tessier | Well, spank my ass and call me Charlie. | Jan 09 09:02 |
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| tessier | The PowerPC versions of Solaris, OS/2, and Windows were discontinued after only a brief period on the market. | Jan 09 09:03 |
| tessier | A shame things went the way they did. | Jan 09 09:03 |
| tessier | I hope the new BIOS standard will help things along. | Jan 09 09:04 |
| tessier | And the success of Linux/Android etc. | Jan 09 09:04 |
| gnufreex | Yup. OS/2 for PPC was based on Mach | Jan 09 09:04 |
| gnufreex | It run as OS emulator | Jan 09 09:04 |
| gnufreex | *ran | Jan 09 09:04 |
| gnufreex | What new bios standard? EFI? | Jan 09 09:05 |
| gnufreex | I think Intel is hoarding that. | Jan 09 09:05 |
| gnufreex | They won't give it to other people | Jan 09 09:05 |
| gnufreex | AMD don't have it either. | Jan 09 09:05 |
| gnufreex | non-x86 architectures use OpenBoot for years. | Jan 09 09:06 |
| gnufreex | It is better than BIOS | Jan 09 09:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] Damm there is so many ignoring homepages out there, When I click a Picture I want it enlarge. Nice to have !compiz enhanced zoom | Jan 09 09:07 | |
| cubezzz | well, there's coreboot for those of us stuck in x86-land | Jan 09 09:08 |
| gnufreex | It is interesting how many hoops Apple jumped to kill PowerPC on desktop, affter they abandoned it. | Jan 09 09:09 |
| gnufreex | They paid $260m to buy PA SEmi | Jan 09 09:09 |
| gnufreex | And killed PWRficient | Jan 09 09:10 |
| gnufreex | Which was very good chip. | Jan 09 09:10 |
| cubezzz | someone cloned the Kim-1 surprisingly | Jan 09 09:10 |
| gnufreex | And they could use PWRficient instead moving to intel, but Intel probably bribed them to move. | Jan 09 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @harishpillay http://identicurse.net/ - nuff said | Jan 09 09:10 | |
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| gnufreex | Then Apple bought Intrinsity | Jan 09 09:10 |
| gnufreex | Which made some technlogies that AMCC Titan uses. | Jan 09 09:10 |
| gnufreex | Titan is another PPC CPU | Jan 09 09:11 |
| gnufreex | From IBM spin off | Jan 09 09:11 |
| gnufreex | Aplied Micro Circuits Corporation | Jan 09 09:11 |
| cubezzz | there's that Sam-1 or whatever it's called | Jan 09 09:11 |
| cubezzz | not sure if they still make those though | Jan 09 09:11 |
| gnufreex | I don't remember what's Sam-1? | Jan 09 09:12 |
| cubezzz | er, Sam440 I mean | Jan 09 09:12 |
| gnufreex | Aha | Jan 09 09:12 |
| cubezzz | some people run AmigaOS on it | Jan 09 09:12 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, thta is mobo with Freescale CPU | Jan 09 09:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] ♺ @mjjzf: @mfoetsch If I can walk into the mainstream'est store and buy a 32" Sony TV and get Linux & the GPL, well, then it is out there. | Jan 09 09:12 | |
| gnufreex | also PPC | Jan 09 09:12 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't mind the 6502 kit though | Jan 09 09:12 |
| gnufreex | Freescale now mostly makes embeded CPUs | Jan 09 09:12 |
| cubezzz | it's pretty inexpensive | Jan 09 09:12 |
| cubezzz | ah, there's a new one now, the Sam 460EX | Jan 09 09:13 |
| gnufreex | This company had some nice tech, but Apple bought it mostly to kill it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrinsity | Jan 09 09:13 |
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| gnufreex | And I still don't get what apple got from PA Semi | Jan 09 09:14 |
| gnufreex | All people left | Jan 09 09:14 |
| gnufreex | They only managed to kill PWRficient | Jan 09 09:14 |
| gnufreex | That is probably what they wanted | Jan 09 09:14 |
| gnufreex | Though I don't know why | Jan 09 09:14 |
| cubezzz | do you have any non-x86 computers gnufreex? | Jan 09 09:14 |
| gnufreex | cubezzz: I had some old SGI workstation, but it died. | Jan 09 09:14 |
| gnufreex | I also had Amiga. | Jan 09 09:14 |
| cubezzz | ah cool | Jan 09 09:15 |
| gnufreex | I got that junk from people who didn't want to use it anymore. | Jan 09 09:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] National Rail Enquiries still being antediluvian over making their data available http://bit.ly/f3Li6t (v @deathboyuk) #opendata | Jan 09 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: Abba? Bah! .oO( Nobody's perfect... forgive him ) | Jan 09 09:15 | |
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| cubezzz | those sam boards are too expensive | Jan 09 09:16 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, I looked the listings, it is pretty much as Intel Core i7 system | Jan 09 09:17 |
| gnufreex | No wonder nobody buys it. | Jan 09 09:17 |
| gnufreex | cubezzz: On your question, I also used some non-x86 computer at work, we had Itanium server and SPARC server. But not anymore. | Jan 09 09:19 |
| gnufreex | It was second hand also. | Jan 09 09:19 |
| tessier | A long time ago I had a couple Alpha UDB machines. They were low end even for Alpha's at the time. | Jan 09 09:23 |
| gnufreex | Did it run VMS? | Jan 09 09:24 |
| tessier | Now I don't have any non x86 machines because there really aren't any to be had unless you just want an old slow box for nostalgia reasons. | Jan 09 09:24 |
| tessier | Nope. Linux. I would have liked to have learned more about VMS long ago but opportunities to do so were very limited. | Jan 09 09:24 |
| cubezzz | one wonders what happens to old mainframes like IBM 4381 | Jan 09 09:25 |
| cubezzz | probably get trashed | Jan 09 09:25 |
| gnufreex | Itanium box we had at work ran VMS. Great OS :-) | Jan 09 09:25 |
| tessier | Yep | Jan 09 09:25 |
| tessier | I never liked VMS much back when I was a student with an account on a VMS box. | Jan 09 09:25 |
| tessier | The UNIX machines (SunOS at the time) let me do so much mroe. | Jan 09 09:25 |
| tessier | more | Jan 09 09:26 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, I like UNIX better too, but VMS is somewhat exotic. | Jan 09 09:26 |
| gnufreex | So I liked it. | Jan 09 09:26 |
| tessier | Yeah. I suspect it may have had pretty good security too. | Jan 09 09:26 |
| gnufreex | I didn't get much time to play with it because we had to wipe it and install GNU/Linux. | Jan 09 09:27 |
| gnufreex | I don't remember why | Jan 09 09:27 |
| gnufreex | That was only passing through, they latter removed it and I don't know where they put it. Sold it maybex. | Jan 09 09:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Bloodshed Puts New Focus on Vitriol in Politics" - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09capital.html?_r=1&hp | Jan 09 09:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: | Jan 09 09:34 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: vms and NT are releated Same core designer designed both. When you see how secure VMS is and how crappy NT is. Shows how important long term funding for secuirty is. | Jan 09 09:37 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: I think I talked yeasterday about that. Wait till I find above. | Jan 09 09:38 |
| gnufreex | [19:23:41] <gnufreex> It was DEC's research project | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:23:44] <gnufreex> And they canceled | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:23:45] <gnufreex> it | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:23:46] <GoForbes28> Build a bigger hard driver and increase system requirements, but don't make the easier part more efficient | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:23:52] <gnufreex> It was called Mica | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:00] <GoForbes28> I thought it was just a ripoff of OS/2 | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:03] <twitter> M$ stole developers, and ruined their work. | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:05] <GoForbes28> Nt that is | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:19] <gnufreex> GoForbes28: No, that is what it supposed to be | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:36] <GoForbes28> ah, but DEC Mica is what if became | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:37] <gnufreex> But MS decided to screw IBM, when they got their hands on Mica | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:38] <GoForbes28> *it | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:24:49] <gnufreex> http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/30/readers-write-how-microsoft-got-windows-nt/ | Jan 09 09:40 |
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| gnufreex | [19:24:51] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Readers Write: How Microsoft got Windows NT — RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 41.75 KB | Jan 09 09:40 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:06] <GoForbes28> Microsoft likes stealing developers developers developers developers | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:06] <gnufreex> Mica was the reason why MS broke partnership with IBM | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:14] <gnufreex> They simply didnt need IBM anymore | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:21] <gnufreex> When they got Mica from Dave Cutler | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:30] <GoForbes28> Well, DOS was just another product they bought | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:31] <gnufreex> Who quit DEC becausae Mica was canceled | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:25:43] [TRIdentica] [ovigia/@ovigia] #UK #policestate: "UK Library: Cryptome Blocked for “Criminal Activity”"http://ur1.ca/2s6ik | Jan 09 09:41 |
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| gnufreex | [19:26:10] <GoForbes28> Imagine if the partnership with IBM never happened and the Microsoft had been forced to play fair | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:26:20] <MinceR> there would be no m$, then | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:26:25] <GoForbes28> they would be developing Xenix I guess | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:26:27] <twitter> the result of these efforts is still an ugly toy OS called Windows. | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:26:31] <MinceR> they would have been sued out of existence by DRI | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:26:52] <MinceR> or rather, there would have been nobody to sell the stolen CP/M-86 code to | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:01] <gnufreex> Mica was Microkernel initialy. But bill gates decied to put everything into kernel space | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:02] <GoForbes28> And OS/2 7 would be a common OS | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:04] [TRIdentica] [laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <really> off to !edit :D | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:06] <gnufreex> Even window manager | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:14] <gnufreex> so they broke beatiful OS. | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:14] <MinceR> i'm not sure if there would have been an OS/2 | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:32] <GoForbes28> OS/GNU? :P | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:27:50] <MinceR> i'm guessing they would have either got genuine CP/M or Unix | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:28:34] <gnufreex> Mica wasn't designed for x86, it was intended to run on PRISM, which was desinged to have fast context switching. So microkernel deign didn't hamper performance | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:28:38] <gnufreex> But on x86 is sucked | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:28:48] <gnufreex> So they put everyting in kernel space | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:28:51] <gnufreex> and made a mess. | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:29:03] <MinceR> ironically, even after putting everything in kernel space, it was still slow | Jan 09 09:41 |
| gnufreex | [19:29:07] <MinceR> but now it was also unstable | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | [19:29:10] <MinceR> what a bargain! | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | [19:29:50] <gnufreex> And to make things even more ironic, they ported it (back) to Alpha | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | [19:29:56] <gnufreex> (which is offspring of PRISM) | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | [19:29:58] <twitter> Bong search result for "software law" excludes Google's number 5 result, the software freedom law center. I don't think that's an accident. | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | [19:30:17] <gnufreex> And it ran slower on Alpha than on x86 | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | [19:30:25] <gnufreex> despite Alpha being faster. | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: Especially read this http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/30/readers-write-how-microsoft-got-windows-nt/ | Jan 09 09:42 |
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| gnufreex | It wasn't just designed by same guy. | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | It is the same project, same code. | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | But not same code as VMS | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | It is same code as sucessor of VMS | Jan 09 09:42 |
| gnufreex | Mica was rewrite of VMS in C | Jan 09 09:42 |
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| gnufreex | VMS is written in Macro 32, which is VAX assembly | Jan 09 09:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If the US DoJ wants to get info about people that have a connection with #wikileaks, maybe it's time for another #iamspartacus wave... | Jan 09 09:44 | |
| oiaohm | Depends on the blood line VMS gnufreex | Jan 09 09:46 |
| gnufreex | How do you mean? | Jan 09 09:46 |
| oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS Later forms of VMS merged MICA code into them. | Jan 09 09:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Not To Be Influential? #Quora #Spam On Mechanical Turk - http://tcrn.ch/eyIfqK had to happen | Jan 09 09:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[krzym/@krzym] i was silent !wl #wikileaks http://bit.ly/hSxqIb | Jan 09 09:47 | |
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| gnufreex | oiaohm: Where does it say that? | Jan 09 09:47 |
| gnufreex | I can't see it. | Jan 09 09:48 |
| gnufreex | Mica is C and C++ | Jan 09 09:48 |
| oiaohm | Look at the coding langages used. | Jan 09 09:48 |
| gnufreex | VMS is VAX Macro | Jan 09 09:48 |
| gnufreex | And BLISS | Jan 09 09:48 |
| oiaohm | But current day VMS is not pure VAX Macro and Bliss | Jan 09 09:48 |
| gnufreex | And dozen of other obscure languages | Jan 09 09:48 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, i know | Jan 09 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Launch of “Principles on Open Bibliographic Data” at PMR Symposium - http://bit.ly/eLjwEl important stuff #openbibliography | Jan 09 09:49 | |
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| oiaohm | OpenVMS is a cross bread beast. | Jan 09 09:49 |
| oiaohm | But its secure. | Jan 09 09:49 |
| oiaohm | Yes in theory OpenVMS should be more swiss cheese due to its language complexity than NT. | Jan 09 09:49 |
| gnufreex | Yeah | Jan 09 09:50 |
| gnufreex | Also, it is very interesting how they implemented VAX macro on Alpha and NT | Jan 09 09:50 |
| gnufreex | Also, it is very interesting how they implemented VAX macro on Alpha and *Itanium* | Jan 09 09:50 |
| gnufreex | Not nt | Jan 09 09:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No GPL Apps for Apple's App Store - http://zd.net/dJ95vE will you take the red pill or the blue pill? #apple #gpl | Jan 09 09:50 | |
| gnufreex | They implemented it like a compiler | Jan 09 09:50 |
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| gnufreex | There is article on that somewhere | Jan 09 09:51 |
| gnufreex | It is not assembly anymore, but a mid level language | Jan 09 09:51 |
| gnufreex | And it is portable | Jan 09 09:51 |
| gnufreex | like C | Jan 09 09:51 |
| gnufreex | But compiler does no optimizations | Jan 09 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @glynmoody I'm Kirk Douglas, btw | Jan 09 09:52 | |
| gnufreex | Here is PDF http://www.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/people/macro/DEC/DTJ/DTJ807/DTJ807PF.PDFhttp://www.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/people/macro/DEC/DTJ/DTJ807/DTJ807PF.PDF | Jan 09 09:53 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.freevms.net/ This is also making slow progress to copy | Jan 09 09:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody combined with Android passing iPhone in USA, a good thing IMHO http://ur1.ca/2seoz | Jan 09 09:57 | |
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| gnufreex | Yeah, I saw that. There's no way to complete that and make it look like real VMS. | Jan 09 09:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] More important then Android passing iPhone is fact that MSFT market share actually goes down, not up! http://ur1.ca/2seoz | Jan 09 09:59 | |
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| gnufreex | VMS asks some features from hardware that no other OS asks. | Jan 09 09:59 |
| gnufreex | That is why DEC dumped MIPS and had to make Alpha. | Jan 09 09:59 |
| gnufreex | MIPS can't run VMS efficiently | Jan 09 09:59 |
| gnufreex | It can be ported, but misses the point. | Jan 09 09:59 |
| gnufreex | There is also article on that somewhere. | Jan 09 10:00 |
| gnufreex | Oh, yeah. | Jan 09 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Gartner's prediction wrong by almost two years. http://ur1.ca/2sepx | Jan 09 10:00 | |
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| gnufreex | And that is why NT sucks. They transplanted donkey kidney into elephant. | Jan 09 10:01 |
| gnufreex | Why are people saying that Remi Denis Courmont works for Microsoft? He works for Nokia http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=4802335&authType=name&authToken=HfNh&locale=en_US&pvs=pp&pohelp=&trk=ppro_viewmore | Jan 09 10:19 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 09 10:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright comes a cropper in the digital age - http://bit.ly/hZPTne reasonable piece in #guardian (v @Joscelyn @nipclaw @kysen) | Jan 09 10:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Copyright comes a cropper in the digital age | Books | The Observer .::. Size~: 109.92 KB | Jan 09 10:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] If you have lofty ambitions for your legacy, head for the attic - http://bit.ly/i7IQEd another argument for open standards like #ODF | Jan 09 10:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: If you have lofty ambitions for your legacy, head for the attic | Technology | The Observer .::. Size~: 120.49 KB | Jan 09 10:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @AlexiMostrous Judge Evans agrees to use of Twitter during #Assange extradition hearing on Tuesday #wikileaks >>hooray | Jan 09 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody missioneternity.org - open by defintion as art project. | Jan 09 10:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[anivar/@anivar] anivar: RT @evgenymorozov: Excellent analysis of strategic implications of DOJ's WikiLeaks/Twitter court order from @csoghoian http:/... | Jan 09 10:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] !xmonad on !fedora needs around 217Mb of disc space? why? http://zer0c00l.in/downloads/Screenshot-zer0c00l@gnubox:-home-zer0c00l-Desktop.png | Jan 09 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] OLPC jumps #ARM bandwagon with $165 laptop at CES - http://bit.ly/hJSSK3 still running #linux, presumably #olpc (v @nikan @karounos) | Jan 09 10:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @sagarun xmonad is < 1 MB, but it is written in Haskell. As you didn't have Haskell installed before, it's pulled in. HTH | Jan 09 11:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody still Fedora based, yes. | Jan 09 11:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @nybill I just signed up as a supporter for Northeast Linux fest. So it looks like I'll be getting my 3rd t-shirt with a @fabsh desig ... | Jan 09 11:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @glynmoody OLPC jumps #ARM bandwagon with $165 laptop at CES - http://bit.ly/hJSSK3 still running #linux, presumably #olpc (v @nikan ... | Jan 09 11:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thoughts on the DOJ wikileaks/twitter court order - http://bit.ly/gW4vzA useful piece explaining why these are not sub poenas (v @calixte) | Jan 09 11:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra Motorhead, Black Sabbath and AC/DC were all in the database already, so what could I do, I do, I do? ;-) | Jan 09 11:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @mikkohypponen: Chart showing how the Dubai killing suspects are connected to each other: http://bit.ly/id9fMd | Jan 09 11:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Justice Department Subpoenas Twitter on WikiLeaks http://lxnews.org/2011/01/09/justice-department-subpoenas-twitter/ | Jan 09 11:49 | |
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| schestowitz-at-l | hi | Jan 09 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Icelandic “Wikileaks” MP: US Authorities are Desperate - http://bit.ly/hHjDwH picking on a foreign politician so maladroit (v @Asher_Wolf) | Jan 09 11:55 | |
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| oiaohm | Hi schestowitz-at-l | Jan 09 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @lxnews NOT subpoena, it's a 2703(d) order - http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2011/01/thoughts-on-doj-wikileakstwitter-court.html not the same! | Jan 09 11:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Windows Version for ARM Now Official http://lxnews.org/2011/01/09/windows-version-for-arm-now-official/ | Jan 09 11:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Updated the article. Thanks! | Jan 09 12:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter isn’t the new Cronkite – it needs the new Cronkite(s) - http://bit.ly/dXXdSg it should buy #quora (v AlexiMostrous @fieldproducer) | Jan 09 12:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Digital Detox – Mother banned the net for 6 months…and sells a book http://tinyurl.com/32hr8w6 !facebook !digitaldetox | Jan 09 12:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] MSFT said that Windows 8 ARM version will run only on Qualcom, TI an NVIDIA CPUs. No Marvell, no Samsung, no Freescale. | Jan 09 12:09 | |
| schestowitz-at-l | They start easy | Jan 09 12:10 |
| schestowitz-at-l | it's like Vista Phony 7 | Jan 09 12:10 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Not many manufacturers dared to experiment with it | Jan 09 12:10 |
| gnufreex | Did Vista Phony got some following? | Jan 09 12:10 |
| gnufreex | Who makes phones? | Jan 09 12:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @Asher_Wolf Anonymous responds to US DOJ Wikileaks/Twitter court writ : http://is.gd/kq5KU >>just to remind us they're still there | Jan 09 12:10 | |
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| schestowitz-at-l | Those who did wasted their time and reused Android h/w designs, e.g. HTC, Samsung | Jan 09 12:10 |
| schestowitz-at-l | [12:09] <gnufreex> Did Vista Phony got some following? | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz-at-l | No | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz-at-l | They 'sold' 1.5 million | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz-at-l | [To warehouses] | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Ballmer will be fired soon | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Maybe stage it as exist | Jan 09 12:11 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Maybe stage it as exit | Jan 09 12:11 |
| gnufreex | Uh... that's bad. | Jan 09 12:12 |
| gnufreex | He is on our side. | Jan 09 12:12 |
| gnufreex | [with stupidity] | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz-at-l | "I'm too old, blah, blah... spend time w/ family ad infinitum". | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Don't worry | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz-at-l | He has no better subs' | Jan 09 12:12 |
| schestowitz-at-l | I thought about it | Jan 09 12:13 |
| schestowitz-at-l | without him chaos will prevail | Jan 09 12:13 |
| schestowitz-at-l | I was afraid of Ozzie | Jan 09 12:13 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Cause with Lotus bg he had some respect from people | Jan 09 12:13 |
| schestowitz-at-l | But he quit | Jan 09 12:13 |
| schestowitz-at-l | So now there's nobody (not even Bach who was speculared as heir) to take the seat | Jan 09 12:13 |
| schestowitz-at-l | They would have to hire from the outside, I think | Jan 09 12:14 |
| gnufreex | They could put Dave Cutler... I guess. | Jan 09 12:14 |
| gnufreex | But rumor has it he's an idiot. | Jan 09 12:14 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Is he an MBA type? | Jan 09 12:14 |
| schestowitz-at-l | These people are not coders | Jan 09 12:14 |
| gnufreex | Not sure. | Jan 09 12:14 |
| gnufreex | He is a coder | Jan 09 12:14 |
| schestowitz-at-l | They are professional liars, like politicians | Jan 09 12:14 |
| gnufreex | And managed lots of projects so farm. | Jan 09 12:14 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Coders suck at lying | Jan 09 12:15 |
| gnufreex | *far | Jan 09 12:15 |
| schestowitz-at-l | They get things working cause they tell trueth to machines | Jan 09 12:15 |
| schestowitz-at-l | *truth | Jan 09 12:15 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Other people ar eused to lying and sucking up.. and keeping silent when it suits them.. obedience is rearded | Jan 09 12:15 |
| schestowitz-at-l | *rewarded | Jan 09 12:15 |
| MinceR | cutler would be funny | Jan 09 12:15 |
| schestowitz-at-l | This IRC-based client is junk | Jan 09 12:15 |
| schestowitz-at-l | I get no spellchecking here on Fedora either | Jan 09 12:16 |
| MinceR | it would be something like "m$ fucked up my work, but i love the way they did it!" | Jan 09 12:16 |
| schestowitz-at-l | brb, going full screen | Jan 09 12:16 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Hmmm. I'm sure I used to have a full-screen option... it's not here not, so I must have changed it | Jan 09 12:17 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Oh yeah... | Jan 09 12:17 |
| gnufreex | Cutler hates UNIX | Jan 09 12:17 |
| schestowitz-at-l | When mibbit got blocked... | Jan 09 12:17 |
| gnufreex | He would like to sue against GNU/Linux and everyobody | Jan 09 12:17 |
| schestowitz-at-l | gnufreex: bad news.. | Jan 09 12:18 |
| schestowitz-at-l | My next project wll requite MATLAB | Jan 09 12:18 |
| schestowitz-at-l | but the lab manager is a UNIX man | Jan 09 12:18 |
| gnufreex | :-( | Jan 09 12:18 |
| schestowitz-at-l | So Fedora that is | Jan 09 12:18 |
| schestowitz-at-l | I'll do 3-d face recognition | Jan 09 12:18 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Right now I package with a GUI I build a heart tracking algo | Jan 09 12:18 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Octave+MATLAB | Jan 09 12:19 |
| schestowitz-at-l | with using_octave flag | Jan 09 12:19 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: interesting thing some people have hacked meego onto some of those windows 7 phones. | Jan 09 12:21 |
| gnufreex | lol. | Jan 09 12:21 |
| oiaohm | What make you wonder if Windows phone 7 is that bad people are getting desperate for something that works. | Jan 09 12:21 |
| gnufreex | But they better hack it on Andriod phones | Jan 09 12:21 |
| gnufreex | So Micorosft can't count sales | Jan 09 12:21 |
| gnufreex | It is like PCs. People delete Windows and put Gnu/Linux | Jan 09 12:22 |
| gnufreex | And then computer stops being counted | Jan 09 12:22 |
| gnufreex | Becomes supercomputer | Jan 09 12:22 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Microsoft is excited about adding cut and paste shortly | Jan 09 12:22 |
| schestowitz-at-l | What's next? A start button? | Jan 09 12:22 |
| schestowitz-at-l | The "start button" app... app #5001 | Jan 09 12:22 |
| gnufreex | Did they implemented BSOD yet? | Jan 09 12:23 |
| schestowitz-at-l | No | Jan 09 12:23 |
| schestowitz-at-l | It's an app | Jan 09 12:23 |
| schestowitz-at-l | $0,99\ | Jan 09 12:23 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: at meego stage in development it runs slow on window phone 7 hardware. | Jan 09 12:24 |
| gnufreex | $0,99 per BSOD per Year, per seat. | Jan 09 12:24 |
| oiaohm | Now that is about true. | Jan 09 12:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China plans to build $1.3bn 'seven-star hotel' - http://bit.ly/eIXiJj yeah, that will really pull people out of poverty (v @potockiconsult) | Jan 09 12:29 | |
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| gnufreex | So Microsfot have nobody to change balmer... | Jan 09 12:29 |
| gnufreex | And they are firing him. | Jan 09 12:29 |
| gnufreex | I think sometihng big is going to happen when WP7 fails | Jan 09 12:29 |
| gnufreex | but it is not firing balmer | Jan 09 12:29 |
| gnufreex | In fact, they are either going to try to fire Balmer, or try to sue world for using non-Microsoft technologies | Jan 09 12:30 |
| gnufreex | Like that threats against Free Software and such | Jan 09 12:31 |
| oiaohm | Really you saw moterolla android phones with docking station. | Jan 09 12:31 |
| oiaohm | I am expecting Balmer to come out with the line the world changed on them. | Jan 09 12:31 |
| oiaohm | Faster than expected. | Jan 09 12:31 |
| oiaohm | And that windows phone 7 was a introduction to Windows 7 on arm that is now on phones with docking station option. | Jan 09 12:32 |
| schestowitz-at-l | [12:28] <gnufreex> I think sometihng big is going to happen when WP7 fails | Jan 09 12:32 |
| schestowitz-at-l | You say it like it's a future event | Jan 09 12:32 |
| oiaohm | So effectivelly backstabing Intel and AMD for supporting Meego. | Jan 09 12:32 |
| gnufreex | I meant when it becmes hopeless money drain. They still think it can make money, they still hope. schestowitz | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | The patents can | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | BTW... | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Myhrvold has just ghot another extortion deal./.. | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | SAP! | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | But I don't have time to post about it | Jan 09 12:33 |
| gnufreex | Wtf | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | So much I wanna say.. | Jan 09 12:33 |
| schestowitz-at-l | And this weekend I must catch up with coding | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | gnufreex: also HTC | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | people didn't notice | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | HTC pays Natahan Myhrvold forAndoid | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Now Traul Allen wants some too | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | And Microsoft | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Who's next? | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | gates and his own troll, Searete? | Jan 09 12:34 |
| schestowitz-at-l | ClucMicrosoft(R) found a way to 'beat' Android | Jan 09 12:35 |
| schestowitz-at-l | All I got was this lousy t-... lobbyists army for #swpats | Jan 09 12:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Microsoft Has Become an Embarrassment to Consumer Electronics Show (CES) http://tinyurl.com/2v457nn !microsoft !windows !mvp !mvpbuzz | Jan 09 12:35 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz-at-l: really I think Windows 7 on Arm is because Windows Phone/Windows CE is basically failing. | Jan 09 12:36 |
| gnufreex | Somebody needs to burn down IV company with gasoline. | Jan 09 12:36 |
| gnufreex | That is only thing that could be done against trolls. | Jan 09 12:37 |
| gnufreex | Burn entire building, and then they don't have papers about patents, which means no patents. | Jan 09 12:37 |
| schestowitz-at-l | oiaohm: yeah | Jan 09 12:38 |
| schestowitz-at-l | And CE is dying | Jan 09 12:38 |
| schestowitz-at-l | I wanna write about it | Jan 09 12:38 |
| schestowitz-at-l | iT'S IN MY DRAFTS | Jan 09 12:39 |
| schestowitz-at-l | oops, caps | Jan 09 12:39 |
| gnufreex | ugh... just read about SAP and crap. | Jan 09 12:39 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Mary Jo says they bury the othther oens quietlyer | Jan 09 12:39 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: Really no burning Microsoft down does not get rid of MS patents. | Jan 09 12:39 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: all the paperwork submited for patents will keep the evil items alive. | Jan 09 12:40 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, I forgot that USPTO will need to be burned too. oiaohm | Jan 09 12:40 |
| oiaohm | That fails. | Jan 09 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Since Google has a backup of USPTO data. | Jan 09 12:40 |
| schestowitz-at-l | It's not the paper | Jan 09 12:40 |
| schestowitz-at-l | It's the stupid system | Jan 09 12:40 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Buiold and maintained by lawyers | Jan 09 12:40 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Like Kappos from IBM | Jan 09 12:40 |
| oiaohm | Legally paper copies don't have to exist. | Jan 09 12:40 |
| schestowitz-at-l | All those 'IP experts' | Jan 09 12:40 |
| oiaohm | of the patent documents. | Jan 09 12:41 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Meta0-industry | Jan 09 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Then other patent storage locations have valid backups of other patent systems around the world as well. | Jan 09 12:41 |
| oiaohm | For prior art searches. | Jan 09 12:41 |
| schestowitz-at-l | some law firms would download the while DB via Googler | Jan 09 12:41 |
| schestowitz-at-l | Google is an ally of USPTO now | Jan 09 12:41 |
| schestowitz-at-l | With announcmenets and all | Jan 09 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Really what google has done puts them in a nasty game of chicken with a person patent attacking them. | Jan 09 12:43 |
| oiaohm | Ie does google know about a prior patent covering the same thing. And if they don't will there search engine find it. | Jan 09 12:43 |
| oiaohm | There are very few patented items today that don't have prior art to kill the patent. | Jan 09 12:44 |
| schestowitz-at-l | gnufreex: I need you to do us a favour. last night I said we looked at who codes libreoffice cause you said you'd look at go-oo overlap. I can't look at it right now because I'm on eng041.cs.man.ac.uk/130.88.194.83 but later I get back home and if LO is plagued by Novell then we need to spread the word and shine the light on the Novell staff there.... like flashlight on roaches | Jan 09 12:45 |
| schestowitz-at-l | gnufreex: so if you post lists or stats, it will be handy | Jan 09 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Mixture of different staff have turned up in LO some Novell but some from IBM and other places who were not submiting code to openoffice or go-oo | Jan 09 12:47 |
| oiaohm | Also Br-office staff have also merged into LO. schestowitz-at-l Yes the same LO source base is used to produce Br-office and LO | Jan 09 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zuargo/@zuargo] Revolución total en Internet para liberar al 'espía' Julian !Assange http://bit.ly/f797KH !wikileaks | Jan 09 12:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Screenshots: My system http://ur1.ca/2sfu9 | Jan 09 12:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congresswoman Giffords talked on MSNBC about getting death threats from Palin Teabaggers, Fed Gov did nothing http://ur1.ca/2sfup !wl | Jan 09 12:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] My system, screen gallery http://ur1.ca/2sfuq - PCLOS 2010.12 - E17 | Jan 09 12:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And so the convenient story of a misled, young guy falls apart. As it seems, Loughner was not alone. | Jan 09 12:55 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz-at-l: I was researaching a bit, most I found were not from Novell. By looking at posts, they are mostly Windows users who can't pay for MSO (they disparage GNU/Linux and Freedom). I was cut out on research by chores, but I will do it now again. | Jan 09 13:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at Institut für Biochemie und Molekulare Mikrobiologie http://ur1.ca/2q6ve #4sq | Jan 09 13:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @gnufreex: MSFT said that Windows 8 ARM version will run only on Qualcom, TI an NVIDIA CPUs. No Marvell, no Samsung, no Freescale. | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @DemocracyCanada: "Well, I think Assange should be assassinated, actually." -- Tom Flanagan, former Harper adviser. #incitement #cdnpoli | Jan 09 13:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @telecomix Apple's appstore ToS forbids GPL software, now enforced. Who said Apple likes FS? http://zd.net/dJ95vE | Jan 09 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Another individual was seen at the location, possibly associated with the suspect." - http://ur1.ca/2sfyq | Jan 09 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @therealjanisian: Quote of the day: "I used to be Snow White, but I drifted." - Mae West | Jan 09 13:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Why aren't those real sub-ponies? Aren't they Shetlands? | Jan 09 13:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at bft http://ur1.ca/2sg0e #4sq | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.36.3-libre1, 2.6.34.8-libre2 and 2.6.32.28-libre2 available at http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/ | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Doesn't look like a healthy democracy to me... Very #disturbing. | Jan 09 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.35.10-libre3, 2.6.33.7-libre1, 2.6.31.14-libre4, 2.6.30.10-libre3, 2.6.29.6-libre3, 2.6.28.10-libre5, 2.6.27.57-libre5 too | Jan 09 13:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre these gen5 releases fix a freedom bug and bring in other deblobbing improvements from 2.6.37-libre | Jan 09 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♺ @bigbrovar: while the overlord at appleland removed #VLC from appstore. The free people of #maemo ported it to !N900 http://is.gd/kq0sN | Jan 09 13:15 | |
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| schestowitz-at-l | MATLAB is so utterly dumb | Jan 09 13:24 |
| schestowitz-at-l | http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.soft-sys.matlab/2006-08/msg03963.html | Jan 09 13:24 |
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| schestowitz-at-l | http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.soft-sys.matlab/2006-08/msg03994.html\ | Jan 09 13:24 |
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| schestowitz-at-l | http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.soft-sys.matlab/2006-08/msg03994.html http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.soft-sys.matlab/2006-08/msg03963.html seems more like a bug than a trait | Jan 09 13:25 |
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| schestowitz-at-l | Proprietary software sucks... technically too. So one has to design and recode esp. for the bugs. | Jan 09 13:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Thoughts on the DOJ wikileaks/twitter court order - http://bit.ly/g8tMtM - Compare it to my viewpoint - http://bit.ly/eDadVV #cdnpoli | Jan 09 13:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice: Is Facebook Too Big To Fail? I concur wholeheartedly with Rushkoff saying NO http://ur1.ca/2sg56 | Jan 09 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[soloojos/@soloojos] ♻ @txopi: Los cables de !Wikileaks traducidos automáticamente, clasificados por origen, etiqueta, etc.: http://www.look4leaks.net | Jan 09 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "It's the people that matter, not the venue." Facebook, Linkedin - http://ur1.ca/2sg56 | Jan 09 13:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @glynmoody Technicalities? I'm certain that all of the ponies in the Shetland Islands aren't happy to be considered technicalities! | Jan 09 13:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yeates murder: MP backs DNA testing - http://bbc.in/i62vin pointless unless police actually *have* crime DNA (v @WillTovey @alexanderhanff) | Jan 09 13:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Happy new 1937" - grim joke in Belarus (ur1.ca/2sgc8 in pl); mobile operators give KGB access to location data, people loose their jobs | Jan 09 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody well, there is at least one it seems. | Jan 09 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Iceland summons US envoy over WikiLeaks subpoena - http://bit.ly/iiO8Kt more properly "d-order" - http://bit.ly/gW4vzA (v @GregMitch) | Jan 09 14:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Bodhi Linux Reaches Beta (0.1.4), Gets New Themes And Layouts http://bit.ly/g3GAqu | Jan 09 14:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @GregMitch Jared Lougnner: drug arrests, too crazy for Army or for college or anythign else, but getting a legal gun? No problem. | Jan 09 14:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] @zotz but for how long...? | Jan 09 14:20 | |
| gnufreex | Schestowitz: How to find reliably if someone works for Novell, if he don't have linkedin profile? | Jan 09 14:25 |
| gnufreex | Most LibreOffice folks have no linkedin profile | Jan 09 14:25 |
| gnufreex | ANd I simply can't find where they work. | Jan 09 14:26 |
| oiaohm | http://www.broffice.org/ if you can read the language will explain some. gnufreex | Jan 09 14:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] for devs | Jan 09 14:32 | |
| gnufreex | Is this spanish? | Jan 09 14:32 |
| gnufreex | I don't know that. | Jan 09 14:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @xScited_Adrian: US subpoenas #wikileaks tweets - attempt to scare people into not speaking out, supporting Wikileaks http://zd.net/eHsqpW | Jan 09 14:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] RT @aurele linux libre kernel 2.6.37 .deb lkos version will be avalaible at http://www.fscorsica.org/index-en.html in ~1 hour !olpc !gnu ... | Jan 09 14:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New hashtag: #IFWL - I Follow @WikiLeaks please RT/RD and use it. The more the merrier. Better as Anonymous DDos. | Jan 09 14:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody it is put there by the creators and they have given apple a pass so for the foreseeable future I guess. | Jan 09 14:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @glynmoody http://bonsansnom.wordpress.com/2011/01/08/about-apple-store-gpls-vlc-and-betrains/ | Jan 09 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] No GPL apps in Apple App Store == No Software Freedom for Apple Users. #simpleTruth | Jan 09 14:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @GregMitch: Jared Loughner: drug arrests, too crazy for Army or for college or anything else, but getting a legal gun? No problem. | Jan 09 14:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] @laurelrusswurm ~;-) | Jan 09 14:40 | |
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| thebeez | I found something very strange concerning the "WWF, save a tree" action: I can't find any trademarks in both Switzerland and the EU. | Jan 09 14:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @spyblog 18 USC 2703(d) order powers are via the anti-terrorism PATRIOT Act: Time for another "Icelanders are NOT Terrorists" campaign ? | Jan 09 14:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @alextootchie: RT @vgrade: http://twitpic.com/3oalt5 #meego #hardfp #tegra2 #advent #Vega | Jan 09 14:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @smokku: #Maego development is speeding up. Now the hard part - porting #Hildon Desktop to Clutter 1.0 | Jan 09 14:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @qtbynokia: The #Qt Blog - A couple of top fives from CES - CES is still going strong, but I have seen things that... http://ow.ly/1aMU35 | Jan 09 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The GPL/LGPL App Store For Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, BSD, and Solaris - http://bit.ly/htB4fs #foss | Jan 09 14:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo MeeGo 1.1 Caught Running On The HTC HD2 - Mibz http://dlvr.it/Cz4JS | Jan 09 15:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @My_Maemo: Mokomaze - Labyrinth clone for the N900 with accelerometer control, realistic physics & 48 levels: http://My-Maemo.com/?p=6951 | Jan 09 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @bigbrovar while the overlord at appleland removed VLC from apple store. The free people of #maemo ported it to #N900 http://is.gd/kq0sN | Jan 09 15:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mmiicc: Install #Kubuntu Mobile on the #N900 http://is.gd/kqeyr #Maemo | Jan 09 15:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The otherwise wonderful Notepad++ buckles under the weight of a 122 megabyte textfile, while vi doesn't break a sweat.... | Jan 09 15:19 | |
| *schestowitz-at-l goes back home | Jan 09 15:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @mwkn: Devel: PySide & QML on #Maemo and #MeeGo tutorial http://thpmaemo.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-tutorial-pysideqml-on-meego.html #maemo | Jan 09 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wenn ich selbst Joghurt mache und Actimel als Starter verwende - ist das dann eine Raubkopie? Oder darf man das? | Jan 09 15:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Open Source community buidling 'getting it right' by @dneary http://is.gd/kqDKt | Jan 09 15:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] According to Quasinews a Leaked Document Says #Facebook May Offer Stock http://ow.ly/3AJlk | Jan 09 15:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OSNews: GIMP 2.8 Is Struggling to Make it Out the Door http://ping.fm/UOBKl | Jan 09 15:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Rejoice! Finally! The hand crank for #OLPC is coming! http://ur1.ca/2sh3m | Jan 09 15:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Search Your Linux Desktop With Catfish http://bit.ly/g6ukAg | Jan 09 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] quaint design of an #android smartphone as a #netbook http://is.gd/kqFqH | Jan 09 15:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] RT @jwildeboer Rejoice! Finally! The hand crank for #OLPC is coming! http://ur1.ca/2sh3m | Jan 09 15:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] if you're a subscriber to @wikileaks on twitter, US gov wants your data: http://is.gd/koZIA (PDF) /via @telecomix | Jan 09 15:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] Windows 7 Taskbar "pinned" icons now disappearing; "removing them" using menu causes another to disappear: Debian 6 continues to look better | Jan 09 15:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @goforbes28 Not that Debian 6 or Trisquel would ever NOT be better. ;) | Jan 09 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Giffords remains sedated, critical after Arizona shooting rampage http://yhoo.it/hylfJQ | Jan 09 16:07 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Another beautiful day in the TechRights neighbourhood | Jan 09 16:07 |
| GoForbes28 | And another sudden inexplicable bug from the "best Windows ever" | Jan 09 16:09 |
| GoForbes28 | So Roy, are all the connection and server problems resolved from the most part? | Jan 09 16:12 |
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| GoForbes28 | http://madhatter.ca/2011/01/09/the-gpllgpl-app-store-for-windows-mac-os-x-linux-bsd-and-solaris/ | Jan 09 16:13 |
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| GoForbes28 | I disagree with his idea | Jan 09 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] "Quick merge window note" from #Linus on #lkml http://bit.ly/hgPbeV "[.] I merged the somewhat scary (but very impressive) lockless name[.]" | Jan 09 16:14 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Well not exactly disagree persay | Jan 09 16:14 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm rather conflicted | Jan 09 16:14 |
| GoForbes28 | On the one hand, this would allow Windows and Mac users to use Free software easier | Jan 09 16:15 |
| GoForbes28 | On the other hand, it may give them less insentive to move to a Free operating system | Jan 09 16:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Neary: Open Source community building: a guide to getting it right http://lwn.net/Articles/422277/rss | Jan 09 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] ACTA 2.0 | Jan 09 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @goforbes28 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110105/02301112524/son-acta-worse-meet-tpp-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement.shtml | Jan 09 16:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Son Of ACTA (But Worse): Meet TPP, The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.19 KB | Jan 09 16:25 |
| GoForbes28 | Called TPAA, or as one poster put it: | Jan 09 16:28 |
| GoForbes28 | "Nah - it's the Toilet Paper Protection Act... we gotta save s#(t!!!" | Jan 09 16:28 |
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| GoForbes28 | morning twitter | Jan 09 16:37 |
| good morning | Jan 09 16:38 | |
| why do people still say stupid things like "free software will never be able to do instert_task_here"? | Jan 09 16:38 | |
| http://techrights.org/2011/01/08/gimp-2-8-status-update/#comment-107195 | Jan 09 16:38 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Because they think short-term | Jan 09 16:38 |
| I get tired of it. | Jan 09 16:39 | |
| GoForbes28 | But don't worry, "cloud computing" will solve every problem. -.- | Jan 09 16:39 |
| GoForbes28 | [/sarcacsm] | Jan 09 16:40 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110105/02301112524/son-acta-worse-meet-tpp-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement.shtml | Jan 09 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Son Of ACTA (But Worse): Meet TPP, The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.19 KB | Jan 09 16:40 |
| GoForbes28 | "Nah - it's the Toilet Paper Protection Act... we gotta save s#(t!!!" | Jan 09 16:40 |
| distributed and cooperative computing is a good thing. free software has the tools to make a great and free "cloud" | Jan 09 16:40 | |
| Diaspora is a good example, but free software users have had sftp and other great tools for a long time. | Jan 09 16:41 | |
| GoForbes28 | If its on an external server only, then it's just as bad. | Jan 09 16:41 |
| If the external server is mine, it's great. | Jan 09 16:41 | |
| GoForbes28 | They can use whatever build they want, and people can't do anything about it. | Jan 09 16:42 |
| GoForbes28 | If Facebook was "open source" nothing would change | Jan 09 16:42 |
| Diaspora is change and there are other projects working on the problem. | Jan 09 16:42 | |
| GoForbes28 | The idea situation for Disapora for me would be a local application using P2P technology | Jan 09 16:43 |
| right and that's exactly what it is | Jan 09 16:43 | |
| there's no reason things like Skype have to be non free | Jan 09 16:43 | |
| connecting to legacy telco is a real service that's worth paying for but it is a short term need as legacy telco dies. | Jan 09 16:44 | |
| everyone can run their own "Wall" with free software web servers | Jan 09 16:44 | |
| and projects like Diaspora can tie it all together with OpenSSH making it all private. | Jan 09 16:45 | |
| bandwith is a real service worth paying for but that does not require non free software either | Jan 09 16:45 | |
| so "cloud computing" is not a long term threat | Jan 09 16:46 | |
| people and companies will simply build their own clouds | Jan 09 16:46 | |
| companies like Google will continue making money through advertising on top of the real services they provide | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| indexing and search is a real service. | Jan 09 16:47 | |
| software freedom does matter in "cloud service" too | Jan 09 16:48 | |
| companies can make and sell remote computing, but they will be kept honest by free software | Jan 09 16:49 | |
| GoForbes28 | So what you are saying is that people will make their own servers to host content and applications | Jan 09 16:49 |
| Right | Jan 09 16:49 | |
| GoForbes28 | In that case, what is the benefit over locally-based computing? | Jan 09 16:49 |
| GoForbes28 | That doesn't sound like anything new or revolutionary to may | Jan 09 16:50 |
| the benefits are centralization | Jan 09 16:50 | |
| GoForbes28 | *me | Jan 09 16:50 |
| it's not new or revolutionary | Jan 09 16:50 | |
| GoForbes28 | centralization? | Jan 09 16:51 |
| sure, Microsoft called it "network computing" a decade ago | Jan 09 16:51 | |
| a big dumb company can put all their data and processing in one place if they want | Jan 09 16:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @haris so google apparently collected "private" data and broke some laws. so why do governments want that data and not be sati http:/ ... | Jan 09 16:52 | |
| GoForbes28 | Like Unix servers and X-workstations | Jan 09 16:52 |
| GoForbes28 | this idea even predates the World Wide Web | Jan 09 16:52 |
| yes, but free software makes node addition costless and there may be benefits to large scale concentration of resources like Google uses | Jan 09 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tammy Bruce: "the obscene efforts by many of the left to politicize mass murder" - http://bit.ly/exKTEM the comments are interesting too... | Jan 09 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @laurelrusswurm good morning! | Jan 09 16:54 | |
| GoForbes28 | ok | Jan 09 16:54 |
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| GoForbes28 | but I can still see problems in business applications | Jan 09 16:54 |
| I can think of solutions | Jan 09 16:54 | |
| let's say I want to run a "cloud" for you. | Jan 09 16:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | If it is all centralized, couldn't executives or whoever still exploit the server by deleting incriminating emails? | Jan 09 16:55 |
| I can actually promise you privacy if you encrypt everything you store on my servers | Jan 09 16:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | Can you promise access? | Jan 09 16:56 |
| for instance, Google can't read my encrypted emails. | Jan 09 16:56 | |
| GoForbes28 | So what? | Jan 09 16:56 |
| Google can't promise me access to my private keys! | Jan 09 16:56 | |
| so, I can use their "cloud" and keep my privacy. | Jan 09 16:56 | |
| GoForbes28 | You are storing somewhere out of your control | Jan 09 16:56 |
| Well, I actually store locally and use their service only for sending and receiving mail. | Jan 09 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Puddletag - Awesome mp3tag-like Editor For Linux http://bit.ly/i96U6B | Jan 09 16:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Puddletag - Awesome mp3tag-like Editor For Linux ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 54.05 KB | Jan 09 16:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @inkorrupt There is no difference in #censorship and suppression of #freespeech! http://ur1.ca/2shci #tpn #piracy via @grmpyoldman | Jan 09 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @agentsmith Giffords remains sedated, critical after Arizona shooting rampage http://yhoo.it/hylfJQ | Jan 09 16:59 | |
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| Running processes on other people's computers seems to carry inherent risks but I think it can be done honestly with free software. | Jan 09 17:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer RD @spyblog 18 USC 2703(d) order powers are via the anti-terrorism PATRIOT Act: Time for another "Icelanders are NOT Terr ... | Jan 09 17:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer RD @GregMitch: Jared Loughner: drug arrests, too crazy for Army or for college or anything else, but getting a legal gun? ... | Jan 09 17:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Dave Winer: no, Dems are NOT inciting lunatics to blow things up and shoot at Congressmen and judges. That's what Repubs are doing | Jan 09 17:02 | |
| GoForbes28 | But again, how can you verify that the build running on someone elses server has been modified? | Jan 09 17:03 |
| GoForbes28 | You can't | Jan 09 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer New hashtag: #IFWL - I Follow @WikiLeaks please RT/RD and use it. The more the merrier. Better as Anonymous DDos. | Jan 09 17:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I've just checked in at McDonald's http://ur1.ca/2shs5 #4sq | Jan 09 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] There are clearly some terrorists in the Republican Party. However small a number, can anyone really deny that fact? | Jan 09 17:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @remixtures #Tunisia's bitter cyberwar - Yasmine Ryan (Al Jazeera English) http://ur1.ca/2shsx #freespeech #netNeutrality | Jan 09 17:07 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | Jan 09 17:07 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: thistle still embargoes DaemonFC | Jan 09 17:08 |
| GoForbes28 | Hhi Ron! | Jan 09 17:09 |
| GoForbes28 | Have the connectivity problems been resolved for the most part? | Jan 09 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Next month I start a 3-D face recognition. Will be Free/libre software, as usual. http://is.gd/kqRXP | Jan 09 17:10 | |
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| *schestowitz thinks _Goblin found first chance in days to get back to expensive toys :-) | Jan 09 17:16 | |
| _Goblin_netbook | lol | Jan 09 17:17 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: I'm Roy BTW | Jan 09 17:17 |
| schestowitz | You keep saying Ron ;- | Jan 09 17:17 |
| GoForbes28 | Crap | Jan 09 17:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @TheJusticeDept "...will hold accountable anyone responsible..."~AG <<the way Collateral Murder perps held responsible? #IFWL !wikileaks | Jan 09 17:17 | |
| schestowitz | Some mates call me Royston | Jan 09 17:17 |
| GoForbes28 | Must have the name Ron on the mind | Jan 09 17:17 |
| GoForbes28 | Sorry Roy | Jan 09 17:17 |
| *GoForbes28 'slices off a finger' | Jan 09 17:17 | |
| schestowitz | Who's wraithmonk__ ? | Jan 09 17:18 |
| GoForbes28 | no clue | Jan 09 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Some new people were here... didn't get a chance to say hi... was away till morning | Jan 09 17:18 |
| schestowitz | And I have 3 articles translations in my inbox :-) | Jan 09 17:18 |
| GoForbes28 | Are the server probs resolved? | Jan 09 17:18 |
| schestowitz | *article | Jan 09 17:18 |
| GoForbes28 | nice | Jan 09 17:18 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: too early to tell | Jan 09 17:18 |
| GoForbes28 | was the cause narrowed down? | Jan 09 17:18 |
| schestowitz | 15 hours without issue is not a large sample set | Jan 09 17:19 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: Microhoo blocked | Jan 09 17:19 |
| schestowitz | I've just unblocked them minutes ago | Jan 09 17:19 |
| _Goblin_netbook | Ron....are we all up for a show tomorrow? ;) | Jan 09 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Sure | Jan 09 17:19 |
| GoForbes28 | Right, and I was going to take part | Jan 09 17:19 |
| GoForbes28 | If we could get SIP working | Jan 09 17:19 |
| _Goblin_netbook | ah.... | Jan 09 17:19 |
| _Goblin_netbook | myself and gordon have issues there... | Jan 09 17:20 |
| GoForbes28 | SIP now compatible with googletalk, but Roy's ekiga isn't working | Jan 09 17:20 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/61828348 | Jan 09 17:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @davidc's status on Sunday, 09-Jan-11 14:10:17 UTC - Identi.ca: ...This is increasing dependency on Mono at more levels" 2/2 !u What do you smoke @schestowitz ? I want some! | Jan 09 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @TheJusticeDept AG: ".. law enforcement offic'ls 2 use every resource necessary 2 investigate t/tragedy..." >>talk to Gov. palin? #IFWL | Jan 09 17:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @TheJusticeDept January is National Stalking Awareness Month. http://www.usdoj.gov/ovw >> Irony #!FWL !wikileaks | Jan 09 17:20 | |
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| _Goblin_netbook | Ah....go with the Skype.......its great! ;) | Jan 09 17:20 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin_netbook: we can have GoForbes28 on too | Jan 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz | He's a wiki admin now | Jan 09 17:21 |
| _Goblin_netbook | nice. | Jan 09 17:21 |
| GoForbes28 | I always think of the disease when I see mono | Jan 09 17:21 |
| GoForbes28 | or the cocking | Jan 09 17:21 |
| _Goblin_netbook | cocking? | Jan 09 17:21 |
| GoForbes28 | Mono, mono d-d-Mono, mono | Jan 09 17:21 |
| GoForbes28 | sorry, caulking ;) | Jan 09 17:22 |
| _Goblin_netbook | lol... | Jan 09 17:22 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin_netbook: can we try SIP quickly? | Jan 09 17:22 |
| GoForbes28 | http://www.rustoleum.com/images/canimages/product/ps_mono_siliconetubtile.jpg | Jan 09 17:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jan 09 17:22 |
| schestowitz | I had problems with GoForbes28 and Thistle on it | Jan 09 17:22 |
| _Goblin_netbook | Im on the netbook at the moment.... | Jan 09 17:22 |
| GoForbes28 | I think Ekiga isn't compatible with SIP Comm yet | Jan 09 17:22 |
| schestowitz | oh, nm then | Jan 09 17:22 |
| _Goblin_netbook | I compiled it on Sabayon upstairs.......its fails to even initialise | Jan 09 17:22 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin_netbook: how 'bout your mate Palin? | Jan 09 17:23 |
| _Goblin_netbook | I also understand Gordon had trouble with the .deb | Jan 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz | She really made a killing, didn't she? | Jan 09 17:23 |
| _Goblin_netbook | Ah.....the lovely Sarah..... | Jan 09 17:23 |
| _Goblin_netbook | she's a Sabayon user you know. | Jan 09 17:23 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin_netbook: You are talking Sip Comm right? | Jan 09 17:23 |
| _Goblin_netbook | ;) | Jan 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Mission Accomplished | Jan 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz | "Hot list" | Jan 09 17:23 |
| _Goblin_netbook | yep | Jan 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz | *hIt | Jan 09 17:23 |
| GoForbes28 | it's all java, so I don't what you need to compile | Jan 09 17:23 |
| schestowitz | IIRC she made similar remarks before | Jan 09 17:24 |
| GoForbes28 | Did you try the official site? | Jan 09 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Something like "Take out" | Jan 09 17:24 |
| schestowitz | And in Alaska they show her with rifles, slaughterhouses, and giant bears | Jan 09 17:24 |
| _Goblin_netbook | sorry gforbes...I was using a gui to control it... | Jan 09 17:24 |
| GoForbes28 | pardon? | Jan 09 17:25 |
| _Goblin_netbook | hang on....two convo's here and a damn touchpad i keep hitting | Jan 09 17:25 |
| GoForbes28 | schetowitz: I suppose Canada could invade Alaska and force her to become a refuge | Jan 09 17:25 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, a bit confusing goblin :P | Jan 09 17:25 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/M4n1sh/statuses/24117849299623936 | Jan 09 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @m4n1sh: @sreeyesh @mehulved FOSS world needs people who actually solve problems. I hope Dr. Roy Schestowitz understands this sooner or later | Jan 09 17:26 |
| GoForbes28 | Hey Roy, maybe you could use a Mono caulking picture in your next mono article ;) | Jan 09 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I solve problems too. I develop free software. | Jan 09 17:26 |
| _Goblin_netbook | right.... | Jan 09 17:26 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: copyrighted | Jan 09 17:26 |
| _Goblin_netbook | sorry goforbes.....sip...was my mistake....I tried Ekiga...so did gordon... | Jan 09 17:26 |
| GoForbes28 | On twitter no less :| | Jan 09 17:26 |
| _Goblin_netbook | prior to the new year.... | Jan 09 17:27 |
| GoForbes28 | Sip communicator seems to be working well | Jan 09 17:27 |
| _Goblin_netbook | sip......nope Ive not used | Jan 09 17:27 |
| _Goblin_netbook | it | Jan 09 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Busting Out of Musical Lockdown - http://on.wsj.com/g4LrXv excellent piece on composer John Adams, whom I met in an Edinburgh disco once | Jan 09 17:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: John Adams, Composer of Nixon in China, on His Creative Process - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 167.16 KB | Jan 09 17:27 |
| _Goblin_netbook | damn touch pad.....one bad thing about netbooks......I keep hitting the mousepad with my thumb | Jan 09 17:27 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin_netbook: I can get my webcam working in #Ekiga and SIP Communicator, not in Skype. Free software works better? | Jan 09 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Wait, I should dent it, too | Jan 09 17:28 |
| _Goblin_netbook | I can get webcam in skype | Jan 09 17:28 |
| _Goblin_netbook | I think | Jan 09 17:28 |
| GoForbes28 | Webcam works perfectly for me in SIP | Jan 09 17:28 |
| GoForbes28 | My mike sucks but that's a hardware problem | Jan 09 17:29 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin_netbook: see what the boy who called you c*** says: http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/24055842143735809 | Jan 09 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @directhex: Odd. I get criticized by super-smart Schestowitz for citing his contributors on the same day as a self-congratulatory story abt contributors | Jan 09 17:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I can get my webcam working in #Ekiga and SIP Communicator, not in Skype. Free software works better? | Jan 09 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | They don't mention my post | Jan 09 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Pay attention to what they do | Jan 09 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks | Jan 09 17:29 |
| schestowitz | But not refuting my mono post | Jan 09 17:29 |
| GoForbes28 | Well they are all on Twitter so I can't respond | Jan 09 17:29 |
| _Goblin_netbook | Let me have a look at sip... | Jan 09 17:29 |
| GoForbes28 | http://sip-communicator.org/ | Jan 09 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SIP Communicator : Main - SIP Communicator .::. Size~: 16.2 KB | Jan 09 17:30 |
| _Goblin_netbook | 30 day free trial? | Jan 09 17:30 |
| GoForbes28 | No... | Jan 09 17:30 |
| GoForbes28 | It's Free-software | Jan 09 17:30 |
| GoForbes28 | http://sip-communicator.org/ ? | Jan 09 17:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SIP Communicator : Main - SIP Communicator .::. Size~: 16.2 KB | Jan 09 17:30 |
| GoForbes28 | maybe you had an unintentional redirect? | Jan 09 17:31 |
| GoForbes28 | or are you making a joke... | Jan 09 17:31 |
| _Goblin_netbook | lol.... | Jan 09 17:31 |
| _Goblin_netbook | this is not the loic under a different name......? you can't trust that Java | Jan 09 17:31 |
| _Goblin_netbook | got the reaal site now | Jan 09 17:32 |
| GoForbes28 | We'll be adding a third accent to the show | Jan 09 17:32 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 09 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Canadian | Jan 09 17:32 |
| schestowitz | We had Brandon on though | Jan 09 17:33 |
| schestowitz | He's from Toronto | Jan 09 17:33 |
| GoForbes28 | the Scottish, the uh... Roy, and the Eastern Ontarian | Jan 09 17:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Toronto blows | Jan 09 17:33 |
| schestowitz | smoke | Jan 09 17:33 |
| schestowitz | ? | Jan 09 17:33 |
| GoForbes28 | That's a joke in Can. Toronto sucks | Jan 09 17:33 |
| GoForbes28 | I forgot where you come from. :p | Jan 09 17:33 |
| GoForbes28 | and I seem to recall goblin is scottish? | Jan 09 17:34 |
| GoForbes28 | no wait, that's the other guy, there were three | Jan 09 17:34 |
| _Goblin_netbook | lo | Jan 09 17:34 |
| _Goblin_netbook | lol | Jan 09 17:34 |
| _Goblin_netbook | nope... | Jan 09 17:34 |
| _Goblin_netbook | Bedfordshire | Jan 09 17:34 |
| GoForbes28 | ok | Jan 09 17:34 |
| _Goblin_netbook | an avid listener I see | Jan 09 17:34 |
| GoForbes28 | now that we got that settled :) | Jan 09 17:34 |
| _Goblin_netbook | ;) | Jan 09 17:34 |
| GoForbes28 | Heya, any british accent is british to us | Jan 09 17:35 |
| GoForbes28 | except for irish and scotish | Jan 09 17:35 |
| GoForbes28 | and south african | Jan 09 17:35 |
| GoForbes28 | and australian and new zealand | Jan 09 17:35 |
| _Goblin_netbook | ah.... | Jan 09 17:35 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I was tracking for Novellers among LibreOffice folks, but I can't find any information whatsoever for most of them. So I gave up for today. Here is some clue if anyone wants to try http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/ Those with blue mark are LibreOffce, those witout mark are probably still at on OpenOffice and G-oo. | Jan 09 17:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Credits » LibreOffice .::. Size~: 80.78 KB | Jan 09 17:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[bobjonkman/@bobjonkman] I Follow @wikileaks because I want to know what my government is doing, and my government isn't telling me #IFWL !wl | Jan 09 17:35 | |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: thanks anyway | Jan 09 17:35 |
| _Goblin_netbook | Im going to set myself a goal tonight and try and mess on to get Ekiga working.... | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | It's worth having record | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Kohei is from Novell | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | One of the motivator behind Go-OO in mid 2007 | Jan 09 17:36 |
| GoForbes28 | If you could use Sip communicator, that would be the best | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | There's the guy whom OOo rejected | Jan 09 17:36 |
| gnufreex | I found few people I know. Those are not from Novell | Jan 09 17:36 |
| GoForbes28 | it is working the best and I can use old accounts | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | See yesterday's post | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | he too is from Novell | Jan 09 17:36 |
| schestowitz | And Meeks from Novell is the dominant one | Jan 09 17:36 |
| gnufreex | I can see that most in management positions are from Novell. | Jan 09 17:37 |
| _Goblin_netbook | yeah, I remember why I downloaded the source now (prior to new year) it was to try and convince my relatives to use it instead of skype,....difficulty was it din;t work | Jan 09 17:37 |
| gnufreex | I can also see (due to reading mailing list) that most don't like GNU/Linux | Jan 09 17:37 |
| gnufreex | Most are Windows users. | Jan 09 17:37 |
| GoForbes28 | They should make OOXML support an extension | Jan 09 17:37 |
| schestowitz | Well, consider the usual topography | Jan 09 17:37 |
| GoForbes28 | to isolate the novell from the libre | Jan 09 17:37 |
| gnufreex | Also, regardles of that, some of those hate Microsoft too. | Jan 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | "Zealots!" | Jan 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | Offa w/ their heddds | Jan 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | replyto://24155333073047553 | Jan 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fredforfaen/status/24155703417507840 | Jan 09 17:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fredforfaen: @schestowitz same here , needed to hack a little to get mine working , old creative cam tho... | Jan 09 17:38 |
| schestowitz | re: "I can get my webcam working in #Ekiga and SIP Communicator, not in Skype. Free software works better?" | Jan 09 17:39 |
| gnufreex | Yeah "ZEALOTS". They hate both Linux and Microsoft | Jan 09 17:39 |
| gnufreex | lol | Jan 09 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] There is no such thing as an „open access commons“ - http://bit.ly/fDWuad "a #commons is always structured by rules and norms" | Jan 09 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | They have no brain | Jan 09 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: There is no such thing as an „open access commons“: Open Access is a rule « CommonsBlog .::. Size~: 47.32 KB | Jan 09 17:39 |
| schestowitz | They run on endorphins | Jan 09 17:39 |
| schestowitz | They'll mess up your lab | Jan 09 17:39 |
| schestowitz | And sleep with your PC | Jan 09 17:39 |
| GoForbes28 | And they don't listen | Jan 09 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Remember the google talk re "poisonous people"? | Jan 09 17:40 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61837521 | Jan 09 17:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Matty Janssen (matjan)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jan-11 17:30:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz: Maybe this will help you to get your webcam working in Skype: http://is.gd/kqWNp Worked for me in #lucid. | Jan 09 17:40 |
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| _Goblin_netbook | Im running a gui to control it.... | Jan 09 17:40 |
| _Goblin_netbook | damn... | Jan 09 17:40 |
| _Goblin_netbook | sorry about that... | Jan 09 17:41 |
| _Goblin_netbook | gonna switch off touchpad and use mouse | Jan 09 17:41 |
| GoForbes28 | don't blame you | Jan 09 17:41 |
| GoForbes28 | if you use SIP communicator, you'll be using OpenJDK or classpath right? | Jan 09 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Mine is a TEAC webcam... doesn't seem to be a universal solution | Jan 09 17:42 |
| gnufreex | Oh, schestowitz... I translated the front page to Serbain anyways... that was before I discovered that you already have Croatian tranlation. Tell me your emal in private chat so I can send it to you. | Jan 09 17:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] SIP Communicator at build 3212 | Jan 09 17:42 | |
| schestowitz | send to roy t schestowitz com | Jan 09 17:42 |
| schestowitz | *at | Jan 09 17:42 |
| GoForbes28 | I could translate to Canadian :P | Jan 09 17:43 |
| schestowitz | "abut this website" | Jan 09 17:43 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 09 17:43 |
| GoForbes28 | So eh, this MS product is Kraft Dinner, and they aren't allow other to compete | Jan 09 17:43 |
| schestowitz | After watching South Park it's the only distinguishable thing I pay attention to | Jan 09 17:43 |
| _Goblin_netbook | GoForbes28, Im having a conversation with someone else about something totally different......the gui has nothign to do with SIP | Jan 09 17:44 |
| *schestowitz brb (food) | Jan 09 17:44 | |
| GoForbes28 | Kraft Dinner, eavesdroph, touque, Mr. Christe | Jan 09 17:44 |
| GoForbes28 | thx for clearing that up goblin | Jan 09 17:45 |
| GoForbes28 | so much stuff going on... | Jan 09 17:46 |
| _Goblin_netbook | its the possition of the touchpad that has me jumping between convo's everytime I knock the toucpad with my thumb | Jan 09 17:46 |
| _Goblin_netbook | appart from that though this netbook flies... | Jan 09 17:47 |
| this is an irritating variation on the theme "free software will never be able to do task X" -> FOSS world needs people who actually solve problems. | Jan 09 17:47 | |
| _Goblin_netbook | running peppermint | Jan 09 17:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fears grow for minorities in north #Sudan if south votes to secede - http://bit.ly/gjQAfw solve one problem, create another...what a mess | Jan 09 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Back home. Hunkering down to finally get this show edited... :/ | Jan 09 17:47 | |
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| surrounded by abundant evidence of free software success, these people moan about scarcity that does not exist. | Jan 09 17:47 | |
| they have to pick on sillier and sillier details | Jan 09 17:48 | |
| mono is the ultimate degeneration of the argument | Jan 09 17:48 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I just sent it to you. | Jan 09 17:48 |
| they have nothing to offer that has not been done better elsewhere | Jan 09 17:48 | |
| they shove their effort in people's faces as if that effort proves other self contradictory points | Jan 09 17:49 | |
| gnufreex | twitter: I expect ParotVM to be final nail in the coffin of Mono. | Jan 09 17:50 |
| gnufreex | On technical merit, that is. | Jan 09 17:51 |
| gnufreex | But Microsoft will keep pushing it. | Jan 09 17:51 |
| the argument now boils down to, "you should use mono because we expended effort. people who oppose it are stupid zealots who don't know what they are talking about. mp3 has patent problems!" | Jan 09 17:52 | |
| they don't bother with technical merit because there is none | Jan 09 17:53 | |
| gnufreex | Or "you should use mono because Java is worse!!111" | Jan 09 17:53 |
| gnufreex | Nevermind if one don't need either | Jan 09 17:53 |
| gnufreex | and nevermind that Java is not worse in any way. | Jan 09 17:53 |
| arguments about patents generally turn to bad mouthing other software | Jan 09 17:53 | |
| gnufreex | It is better, | Jan 09 17:53 |
| gnufreex | both on legal and technical merit | Jan 09 17:53 |
| gnufreex | and political | Jan 09 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow @WikiLeaks because #democracy is precious #IFWL | Jan 09 17:54 | |
| they run in circles. I'm not sure how they get Canonical to listen to them | Jan 09 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Kopete has decided it won't display my avatar, smilies, or incoming pictures | Jan 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | it just leaves white space :D | Jan 09 17:54 |
| still using Vista FC? | Jan 09 17:55 | |
| _Goblin_netbook | vista football club? | Jan 09 17:55 |
| _Goblin_netbook | ah... | Jan 09 17:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Ubuntu Tweak 0.5.10 Detects And Disables Broken Software Sources http://bit.ly/fXk3RP | Jan 09 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty ♺ @erikjfisher: RT @Sheamus: I'd love @Twitter to add a hide button for ugly tweets. If you agree, retweet! http://bit.l ... | Jan 09 17:55 | |
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| _Goblin_netbook | damn this....Im going upstairs to the desktop. | Jan 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | as if it complaining loudly about the broken source every time you refresh won' | Jan 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | *won't motivate the user to take care of it | Jan 09 17:56 |
| _Goblin | there... | Jan 09 17:57 |
| GoForbes28 | I think more people should learn assembly | Jan 09 17:57 |
| _Goblin | thats better | Jan 09 17:57 |
| I think the copyright trolls and DMCA may have gotten to Canonical. Banshee and other mono junk tries to load up non free media codecs. Canonical might have been deluded into believing that "premium" content might be deliverd to ubuntu users via silverlie and non free players | Jan 09 17:57 | |
| GoForbes28 | as bad as Mac OS is, version 6 was really fast | Jan 09 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | just buy the codec pack for $30 | Jan 09 17:58 |
| GoForbes28 | so technically if more was written in assembly, it would make everything fast | Jan 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | add another $20 to play DVD | Jan 09 17:58 |
| GoForbes28 | or use Gstreamer | Jan 09 17:58 |
| Canonical might also have feared a DMCA attack if they did not work with non free software in the US. | Jan 09 17:58 | |
| GoForbes28 | or Livdvdcss | Jan 09 17:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Thank goodness I live in Canada | Jan 09 17:58 |
| libdvdcss can not be distributed legally in the US, tyranny | Jan 09 17:58 | |
| GoForbes28 | so I can install libdvdcss and others without worry about some poor poor comglomerate | Jan 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | what's the fun in that, libdvdcss and gstreamer plugins are free, and they're not even binary and you're not paying MPEG LA for their hard work | Jan 09 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow @WikiLeaks because Information Wants to be Free http://ur1.ca/2shsx #IFWL | Jan 09 17:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | it takes a lot of money to hire lawyers to sue people all day | Jan 09 17:59 |
| GoForbes28 | Hard work from over twenty years ago | Jan 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | show some respect :) | Jan 09 17:59 |
| GoForbes28 | I don't think Xubuntu will fall for this garbage | Jan 09 17:59 |
| GoForbes28 | it doesn't have mono ASIR | Jan 09 18:00 |
| GoForbes28 | as i recall | Jan 09 18:00 |
| Xubuntu does not have to fall for it if Canonical purges their repos of things like VLC | Jan 09 18:00 | |
| DaemonFC | neither does Kubuntu, or Lubuntu | Jan 09 18:00 |
| gnufreex | twitter: also, Monsters like to badmouth Vala, for few reasons. | Jan 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | but those are me too projects riding Ubuntu's coat tails | Jan 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | and Canonical doesn't give a flying fuck | Jan 09 18:00 |
| gnufreex | They don't like that Vala can coopt Mono apps and compile them to C | Jan 09 18:01 |
| that would be stupid of them but so is including mono because you think publishers will ever cooperate with free software | Jan 09 18:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is getting almost 100% of Canonical's corporate steering decisions | Jan 09 18:01 |
| gnufreex | And they like to point that Vala is similar to C# | Jan 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu is still a proper distribution | Jan 09 18:01 |
| gnufreex | Which is non-issue because you can escape C# and go to C | Jan 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | can anyone take a stab at what's wrong with Kopete and how I can fix it? | Jan 09 18:02 |
| I'm still not sure why anyone would be sucked into C# | Jan 09 18:02 | |
| DaemonFC | I've tried deleting all its settings folders | Jan 09 18:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz I can get my webcam working in #Ekiga and SIP Communicator, not in Skype. Free software works better? | Jan 09 18:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jan/09/cameron-warns-royal-bank-scotland-bonuses MPs warn, bankers laugh & carry on #politics | Jan 09 18:02 | |
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| *DaemonFC figures it could be one of those broken Fedora updates that sneaks in now and again | Jan 09 18:02 | |
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| gnufreex | I mean escape Vala and go to C. | Jan 09 18:05 |
| gnufreex | I just now saw type | Jan 09 18:05 |
| gnufreex | o | Jan 09 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] RT @nybill Star Trek The motion Picture is on TV. Bill, you're not fooling anyone with that hair piece! | Jan 09 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 Good Afternoon... <just realized I neglected my "Good Morning !identiverse"> #IFWL | Jan 09 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow @WikiLeaks because there is a difference between government #transparency and human !privacy #IFWL | Jan 09 18:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow @WikiLeaks because I am a mother #IFWL | Jan 09 18:09 | |
| GoForbes28 | Good thing Trisquel exists | Jan 09 18:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Escándalo en Educación - Melinda Gates fuera del Washington Post http://is.gd/kr4LX #gatesfoundation #education #washpo #es #america | Jan 09 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden Since when has a foul in the penalty area not constituted a penalty? It doesn't matter if Berbatov 'went down easily.' ... | Jan 09 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @davidmarsden How many times has Gerrard got away with elbowing opponents in the face? Not to mention punching people's lights out in ... | Jan 09 18:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jimbobbysez RT @coldacid: !WL Twitter subpoena includes accounts 4 >everyone< following @wikileaks http://zd.net/fXeCHO #cdnpoli #IFWL | Jan 09 18:10 | |
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| GoForbes28 | Are you back yet Ron..err...Roy? ;) | Jan 09 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow @WikiLeaks = #IFWL | Jan 09 18:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @laurelrusswurm On CBC Radio 1, Spark (I think) is having an interview about digital works and media conglomerates; may be interesting | Jan 09 18:15 | |
| _Goblin | Goforbes28: you coming on the show? | Jan 09 18:18 |
| _Goblin | on monday | Jan 09 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @coldacid ♺ @Anonymous Why are you unfollowing @wikileaks? Are you afraid that gov't will know you love freedom? > Too late anyway #IFWL | Jan 09 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @goforbes28 i'll have to catch podcast later | Jan 09 18:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: Acuerdos a Puerta Cerrada: la Receta Secreta de #Microsoft http://is.gd/kr7bw #deal #asia #google #mail | Jan 09 18:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @coldacid ♺ @Jeff Jarvis Wikileaks tells Facebook, Google: unseal your subpoenas. http://ur1.ca/2sigg #IFWL | Jan 09 18:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink @laurelrusswurm that's why I now follow @wikileaks :) #IFWL -AND- we need to make up for the cowards who UNfollowed @wiki ... | Jan 09 18:24 | |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: What is he talking about? http://twitter.com/directhex/status/24055842143735809 | Jan 09 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @directhex: Odd. I get criticized by super-smart Schestowitz for citing his contributors on the same day as a self-congratulatory story abt contributors | Jan 09 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @threethirty I follow @WikiLeaks because because #democracy is precious, and information wants to be Free http://ur1.ca/2shsx #IFWL | Jan 09 18:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow @WikiLeaks and @WikiLeaks2 AND every variation I can find because sharing information makes us strong #IFWL | Jan 09 18:29 | |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: Depends on what time it is | Jan 09 18:29 |
| GoForbes28 | GNUFreex: Indeed. From the tone, it sound like a little kid trying to be clever | Jan 09 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @w1k1l34k5 Wikileaks und die Jagd auf Julian Assange http://bit.ly/e0WIYu #wikileaks #assange | Jan 09 18:30 | |
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| gnufreex | Yeah, that mono guy likes to pretend he is celver. GoForbes28 | Jan 09 18:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ES: El New York Times Hace Propaganda a La Fundación Gates http://is.gd/kr9yw #nytimes #gates #pr #corporatepress #advertising #plutocracy | Jan 09 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @engola "As it applys to you an me, our country isnt free!" Zappa & The Mothers of Invention http://tinyurl.com/24pm7le !wikileaks #IFWL | Jan 09 18:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ES: El New York Times Hace Propaganda a La Fundación Gates | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.52 KB | Jan 09 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Mothers of Invention - Trouble Comin' Everyday .::. Size~: 117.18 KB | Jan 09 18:32 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: ah....probably around 6pm ish..... | Jan 09 18:32 |
| _Goblin | (uk time) | Jan 09 18:33 |
| GoForbes28 | so what is that compared to GMT? | Jan 09 18:33 |
| GoForbes28 | Here, it's GMT-5 | Jan 09 18:33 |
| _Goblin | + 5? | Jan 09 18:33 |
| _Goblin | or minus? | Jan 09 18:34 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61839705 > good to know | Jan 09 18:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Pablo Cholaky (waltercool)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jan-11 18:19:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Seems like SofiaSip can do this job fine :) (on empathy) | Jan 09 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @coldacid CBC Explains Usage Based Billing http://bit.ly/eSmOPt #cdnpoli #internet #crtc !StopUBB | Jan 09 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: CBC Explains Usage Based Billing | OpenMedia.ca .::. Size~: 20.67 KB | Jan 09 18:35 |
| *Judas_PhD (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) has joined #techrights | Jan 09 18:36 | |
| GoForbes28 | minus | Jan 09 18:37 |
| GoForbes28 | Eastern Standard Time | Jan 09 18:37 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: got your mail | Jan 09 18:38 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: how do you spell serbian in serbian? | Jan 09 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Or write rather | Jan 09 18:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Electronic Glasses Let You Change Focus In a Split Second. Goodbye Bifocals! (video) | Singularity Hub http://ow.ly/3AMgb | Jan 09 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @laurelrusswurm TekSavvy is switching from BellDSL to cable for its services because of UBB; one evil for another sadly | Jan 09 18:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I have read the d order several times. But I cannot conclude that 2B affects all #wl followers. I call BS on that interpretation. But IANAL. | Jan 09 18:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Electronic Glasses Let You Change Focus In a Split Second. Goodbye Bifocals! (video) | Singularity Hub .::. Size~: 41.81 KB | Jan 09 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Srpski? | Jan 09 18:41 |
| schestowitz | That's intro, no? | Jan 09 18:41 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: srpski | Jan 09 18:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @WikiLeaks Too late to unfollow; trick used is to demand the lists, dates and IPs of all who received our twitter messages. #IFWL | Jan 09 18:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @jwildeboer It doesn't matter. It can be used to frighten people. #IFWL | Jan 09 18:42 | |
| GoForbes28 | Still there goblin? | Jan 09 18:43 |
| gnufreex | introduction is "upoznavanje" schestowitz | Jan 09 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Delicious Bookmark: perl module: HTML::Template: http://bit.ly/eNCieg | Jan 09 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thanks to @gnufreex for adding a Serbian translation to !techrights just now: http://is.gd/krchd | Jan 09 18:45 | |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: I found just one image of your flag and added it http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Serbian | Jan 09 18:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ioerror I'm extremely concerned about @slim404 and others in Tunisia: http://bit.ly/hTRXS5 #sidibouzid #humanrights | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @N900_Drips: AGTL version 0.8.0.0 http://bit.ly/i92ysu #Nokia #N900 | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @WikiLeaks CNET on Twitter subpeona http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20027893-281.html !WikiLeaks !Cablegate #IFWL | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @ifikra: I know many don't care, but unarmed 26 protesters died yesterday in #Tunisia via @RFI_Francais http://rfi.my/fZx8AK #sidibouzid | Jan 09 18:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tunisia: The uprising has a hashtag - thestar.com .::. Size~: 102.09 KB | Jan 09 18:47 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DOJ sends order to Twitter for Wikileaks-related account info | Privacy Inc. - CNET News .::. Size~: 149.3 KB | Jan 09 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Affrontements sanglants ce week-end en Tunisie | RFI .::. Size~: 126.73 KB | Jan 09 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "This page has been accessed 33 times." | Jan 09 18:47 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: That's an old flag :-) | Jan 09 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Jan 09 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Bad then, eh? | Jan 09 18:48 |
| gnufreex | http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.brojanica.ch/eshop/images/P/nova_zastava%2520zamena.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.brojanica.ch/eshop/product.php%3Fproductid%3D16412&h=248&w=350&sz=22&tbnid=4TPFxtok1P4rLM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSrpska%2Bzastava&zoom=1&q=Srpska+zastava&usg=__uVO1kQyvv1YV-0EFqspxXmwbHm4=&sa=X&ei=wAIqTbPpCcib8QOfx636Ag&ved=0CB0Q9QEwAg | Jan 09 18:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Image Result for http://www.brojanica.ch/eshop/images/P/nova_zastava%20zamena.jpg .::. Size~: 8.39 KB | Jan 09 18:48 |
| gnufreex | This is new | Jan 09 18:48 |
| gnufreex | better http://www.brojanica.ch/eshop/images/P/nova_zastava%20zamena.jpg | Jan 09 18:48 |
| schestowitz | What if I left the old one? | Jan 09 18:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jan 09 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Offensive? It has no copyright issue | Jan 09 18:48 |
| gnufreex | no.. it is ok | Jan 09 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Ok | Jan 09 18:49 |
| schestowitz | I got scared | Jan 09 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Like putting the wrong flag | Jan 09 18:49 |
| schestowitz | With countries that divide and fight | Jan 09 18:49 |
| gnufreex | I just saying so you know when you see :-) | Jan 09 18:49 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jan 09 18:49 |
| schestowitz | There's an intellectual vulture in your flag now | Jan 09 18:49 |
| gnufreex | New has twoheaded eagle, and new one is in fact old one, except that comunists removed it becouse of the crown. And now that is back. Complicated :-) | Jan 09 18:50 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: you can always extend the page, add links to Serbian links stuff or whatever. It's a wiki that's encouraging you to add | Jan 09 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Used xda member evil-D's Desire ROM port on the !NexusOne for a day. Not too fond of sense UI really. Back to !cyanogen 6.1.1 :) !android | Jan 09 18:50 | |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: ok | Jan 09 18:51 |
| schestowitz | I'll catch up with identica now, mail done... | Jan 09 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Then I have like 25 posts to do... | Jan 09 18:55 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: Tell me if you want me to translate some articel, I have spare time right about now. | Jan 09 18:55 |
| gnufreex | Something that is really important. | Jan 09 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Cool, any page of interest for wiki or he site | Jan 09 18:55 |
| schestowitz | *or the | Jan 09 18:55 |
| schestowitz | There's a list of Microsoft sins | Jan 09 18:56 |
| gnufreex | The funny one? | Jan 09 18:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsofts_S%C3%BCnden | Jan 09 18:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsofts Sünden - Techrights .::. Size~: 19.33 KB | Jan 09 18:56 |
| gnufreex | This is german... | Jan 09 18:56 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/List_of_Microsoft_Sins | Jan 09 18:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: List of Microsoft Sins - Techrights .::. Size~: 17.5 KB | Jan 09 18:56 |
| schestowitz | My references plugin is broken-ish | Jan 09 18:57 |
| schestowitz | So they don't show up | Jan 09 18:57 |
| schestowitz | They used to show up | Jan 09 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Then some bl00dy spammer broke the page with drugs | Jan 09 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] To all Unfollowers of #WL: Your anticipatory obedience is appreciated by the Ministry of Truth. #wikileaks #IFWL | Jan 09 18:57 | |
| gnufreex | schestowtiz: So I can edit? | Jan 09 18:59 |
| gnufreex | But If I edit this, then english page is gone. | Jan 09 18:59 |
| gnufreex | Better make new page | Jan 09 18:59 |
| gnufreex | And I will edit new page. | Jan 09 18:59 |
| schestowitz | You can edit this.... | Jan 09 18:59 |
| schestowitz | [wait] | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Well, I don't know Serbian | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Edit the root page | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Add [[whatever] | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=whatever | Jan 09 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | odd | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Jan 09 19:00 |
| gnufreex | I don't get. | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know I could do this... | Jan 09 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @threethirty I follow @WikiLeaks because because #democracy is precious, and information wants to be Free http://ur1.ca/2shsx #IFWL | Jan 09 19:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tunisia's bitter cyberwar - Features - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 93.54 KB | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=roy | Jan 09 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Weird | Jan 09 19:00 |
| schestowitz | If this a freenode thing? | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=this is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=test | Jan 09 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Jan 09 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden | Jan 09 19:01 |
| gnufreex | whay you did? | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Try using two opening brackets and two closing ones | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's my IRC client | Jan 09 19:01 |
| gnufreex | (()) | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | square | Jan 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | with contents | Jan 09 19:02 |
| gnufreex | [[]] | Jan 09 19:02 |
| gnufreex | [[bz]] | Jan 09 19:02 |
| schestowitz_log | [[test]] | Jan 09 19:02 |
| gnufreex | [[wikipedia]] | Jan 09 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Oh, so it's a KDE Konversation thing | Jan 09 19:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Does your company use the worried parent approach for social media, like the United States Air Force? | http://bit.ly/heuX6d | Jan 09 19:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: To tweet or not to tweet: How companies are reining in social media | opensource.com .::. Size~: 49.46 KB | Jan 09 19:02 |
| gnufreex | I lost my train of thoughts.... | Jan 09 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, you can add new pages by adding to the existing one in Serbian | Jan 09 19:02 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: we'll get your a new train ;-p | Jan 09 19:03 |
| gnufreex | Oh, I have new train. | Jan 09 19:03 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Jan 09 19:03 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61841523 | Jan 09 19:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Jan-11 18:57:47 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @lwnnet Stable kernels 2.6.36.3 and 2.6.32.28 http://is.gd/krf4V !linux | Jan 09 19:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[appelond/@appelond] !DS9 and a !cupofcoffe time | Jan 09 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fluoride levels in water too high, U.S. agency says http://is.gd/krgHR not to mention other chemicals that enter circulation... gases too. | Jan 09 19:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jargon/@jargon] i'm sure glad i don't use twitter,and only !identica. or i'd be in subpoena hell like some of u. #gitmo !wikileaks | Jan 09 19:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fluoride levels in water too high, U.S. agency says .::. Size~: 88.71 KB | Jan 09 19:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @sehof What the heck, apparently the US subpoena also demands my personal information, because I follow #WikiLeaks on #Twitter. | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ender2070 Just got home and I am setting up my new HP Mini 110-1033ca with Fedora 32-bit KDE. I'm going to try Plasma Netbook! <it's nice | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Asher Wolf ♺ @jamesrbuk: @twitter should notify all users who've had information requests in relation to US State !wikileaks | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @Asher_Wolf ♺ @dictvm: Twitter seems legally bound to hand over information. We s/b thankful they're informing the affected persons. !wl | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @JustAmira: Global Voices: Tunisia: “Please tell the world Kasserine is dying!”: #Tunisia http://bit.ly/hLZfLk via @ioerror | Jan 09 19:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I hereby resign from !TechBytes | Jan 09 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @SBZ_news Bullets, used by the Tunisian police in Kassrin http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=170356223007700 #sidibouzid | Jan 09 19:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Videos Posted by 4 شعب تونس يحرق في روحو يا سيادة الرئيس: عينة من الرصاص المستخدم في القصرين | Facebook .::. Size~: 22.67 KB | Jan 09 19:10 |
| what's up with thistleweb and techbytes? | Jan 09 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @thistleweb But your accent was so coool! | Jan 09 19:12 | |
| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODk4OQ | Jan 09 19:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] AMD Releases Radeon HD 6000 Series Open-Source Support .::. Size~: 20.72 KB | Jan 09 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 yeah sorry Roy is a nightmare to do a project with, incapable of comprehending issues, I'm sick of fighting the same fight again | Jan 09 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Apparently, US Department of Justice is responsible for the massive flock of birds seen falling from the sky in Iceland" http://is.gd/krhXr | Jan 09 19:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @goforbes28 I have no idea who you are, but I hear you're being interviewed on !TechBytes, good luck, enjoy it | Jan 09 19:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Massive Bird Death Over Iceland | artificialeyes.tv .::. Size~: 9.28 KB | Jan 09 19:14 |
| schestowitz | twitter: same old story | Jan 09 19:15 |
| schestowitz | twitter: he also has Ryan banned from here for months | Jan 09 19:15 |
| I'm not familiar with that story | Jan 09 19:15 | |
| wtf is this about -> Roy is a nightmare to do a project with, incapable of comprehending issues, I'm sick of fighting the same fight again | Jan 09 19:15 | |
| hmph. | Jan 09 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @thistleweb Thx. Hope that differences can be worked out in the future. I appreciated your viewpoint. | Jan 09 19:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Best of Cablegate: Instances Where Public Discourse Benefited from the Leaks http://is.gd/kriEf #twitter betrayed !wikileaks in #Iceland | Jan 09 19:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Best of Cablegate: Instances Where Public Discourse Benefited from the Leaks | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.69 KB | Jan 09 19:17 |
| schestowitz | twitter: see his blog | Jan 09 19:17 |
| got link? | Jan 09 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | He does not agree with me on some issues, I was never rude to him or anything | Jan 09 19:18 |
| schestowitz | twitter: not offhand | Jan 09 19:18 |
| oh well, too bad he can't cooperate where you two have things in common. | Jan 09 19:18 | |
| schestowitz | But he had it coming for ages now... I mean, he threatened to stop with the show and do his own | Jan 09 19:18 |
| schestowitz | I wish him luck | Jan 09 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Really, I don't think there's anything to argue about | Jan 09 19:19 |
| schestowitz | twitter: he has done this drama for like a year | Jan 09 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Well before the show | Jan 09 19:19 |
| even if there is, there's more grounds for cooperation. drama is a waste of time | Jan 09 19:19 | |
| schestowitz | Threatening not to autojoin this channel like 3 times over the past year, sometimes by issuing blog posts | Jan 09 19:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand what he wants to achieve with it | Jan 09 19:20 |
| schestowitz | "ban ryan or I quit" type of manipulation | Jan 09 19:20 |
| ah, I see. | Jan 09 19:20 | |
| schestowitz | I felt blackmailed into doing it, and I complied to make him happy | Jan 09 19:20 |
| schestowitz | I like Gordon, I hope he'll change him mind | Jan 09 19:21 |
| apparently not happy | Jan 09 19:21 | |
| GoForbes28 | Well, now you have a new Gordon ;) | Jan 09 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Here is the push to ban ryan http://thistleweb.co.uk/node/197 | Jan 09 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Techrights IRC Channel On Freenode | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 26.83 KB | Jan 09 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I don't dlslike ryan | Jan 09 19:22 |
| schestowitz | He's provocative still, but not worth banning unless he's off his meds | Jan 09 19:22 |
| I don't like disruption, cursing and other drama | Jan 09 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: let it cool with thistle, maybe he'll rethink | Jan 09 19:23 |
| I don't like Intel's naming conventions. | Jan 09 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | _Goblin and I have chemistry and we never had arguments | Jan 09 19:24 |
| I had to look up my CPU to realize it was 64 bits. | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @thistleweb My name's Gordon too! What clan are you from? ;) | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: sandy bridge? | Jan 09 19:24 |
| schestowitz | twitter: my in-law built it | Jan 09 19:24 |
| all of their naming | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| schestowitz | DRM --- boo | Jan 09 19:24 |
| yes, that is bad | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| GoForbes28 | schestowitz: don't worry, I'm light-hearted right now | Jan 09 19:24 |
| as was their slowness on 64 bits | Jan 09 19:24 | |
| GoForbes28 | Guess I'm staying with Arrachide or whatever the hell the name way | Jan 09 19:25 |
| GoForbes28 | *was | Jan 09 19:25 |
| the naming convention Core Duo, Core 2, etc is designed to hide their slowness to 64 bits and use of AMD standards | Jan 09 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Timothy Leary on the Culture of #Secrecy - http://bit.ly/dMqJxA "We all play starring roles in the galactic broadcast" (v @calixte) | Jan 09 19:25 | |
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| It was not until 2006 or so that Intel finally got a 64 bit processor into a laptop. | Jan 09 19:26 | |
| I have a laptop from 2007 and did not realize it was 64 bit for more than a week. | Jan 09 19:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obama wants Internet IDs for the masses - http://bit.ly/eEL40v what could possibly go wrong? #surveillance #identity | Jan 09 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Icelandic MP fights US demand for her Twitter account details http://is.gd/knX0i @birgitta - come join us in #identica too (www.identi.ca) | Jan 09 19:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama wants Internet IDs for the masses | TG Daily .::. Size~: 52.51 KB | Jan 09 19:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Icelandic MP fights US demand for her Twitter account details | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.73 KB | Jan 09 19:27 |
| Their slowness comes from working with Microsoft. They know Microsoft is not ready. I suspect they might be realizing what a disadvantage working with M$ is. | Jan 09 19:27 | |
| DRM might also be a reason for Intel's lack of technical progress. | Jan 09 19:28 | |
| AMD has run rings around them. | Jan 09 19:28 | |
| bbl | Jan 09 19:29 | |
| *twitter (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com) has left #techrights | Jan 09 19:29 | |
| GoForbes28 | so Roy, what time tomorrow is the podcast? | Jan 09 19:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] HTML5: Up & Running - http://bit.ly/eWSrhZ freely available from the author (kudos) - http://bit.ly/dJlqgs - *and* selling well... #html5 | Jan 09 19:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dive into 2010 [dive into mark] .::. Size~: 14.1 KB | Jan 09 19:32 |
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| cubezzz | another show, this time about mostly coreboot in more detail, and the 'ideal computer' | Jan 09 19:34 |
| cubezzz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2011/01/linux-audio-blog-9.html | Jan 09 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Notes on Linux: Linux Audio Blog #9 .::. Size~: 14.82 KB | Jan 09 19:34 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: not sure yet | Jan 09 19:37 |
| schestowitz | We're talking to thistle | Jan 09 19:37 |
| cubezzz | haven't seen thistle in here lately | Jan 09 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Because ryan came back | Jan 09 19:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC | Jan 09 19:38 |
| schestowitz | And I'm stuck in the middle | Jan 09 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Was the same when ender and _Goblin were arguing | Jan 09 19:38 |
| schestowitz | And when one came the other ran away | Jan 09 19:38 |
| cubezzz | yeah sounds familiar :) | Jan 09 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jwildeboer To all Unfollowers of #WL: Your anticipatory obedience is appreciated by the Ministry of Truth. #wikileaks #IFWL | Jan 09 19:39 | |
| schestowitz | We're working things out | Jan 09 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Usually it's ok after the first fit | Jan 09 19:40 |
| GoForbes28 | I haven't exasperated anything have I? | Jan 09 19:40 |
| GoForbes28 | I have nothing against anyone here. | Jan 09 19:41 |
| GoForbes28 | or Thistle | Jan 09 19:41 |
| GoForbes28 | rather Gordon | Jan 09 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @birgittaj Birgitta Twitter not to blame - put the focus on US DoJ - will get clearer picture how to tackle this in the next few days !wl | Jan 09 19:42 | |
| gnufreex | I really can't beleive what Apple did. Rotten to the core. They seem to fixed their AppStore ToS to be compatble, but they still baned GPL. | Jan 09 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @CentOS: Looks like @Blekko is running off #CentOS! ( http://rww.to/haRyjp ) awesome! | Jan 09 19:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Secrets Behind Blekko's Search Technology .::. Size~: 50.32 KB | Jan 09 19:44 |
| cubezzz | you know I've never used an apple product... | Jan 09 19:44 |
| gnufreex | Now everyone will claim that GPL is quirky, and that everyone can complain. | Jan 09 19:44 |
| cubezzz | not even Apple IIe | Jan 09 19:44 |
| gnufreex | And people would be unable to show that it is Apple TOS that is quirky | Jan 09 19:44 |
| gnufreex | becuase they changed | Jan 09 19:44 |
| gnufreex | without notice. | Jan 09 19:44 |
| gnufreex | They want to libel GPL, so they have more BSD code to steal. | Jan 09 19:45 |
| gnufreex | And they are making Mac AppStore. | Jan 09 19:45 |
| gnufreex | So now desktop apps will need to go there to. | Jan 09 19:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @ioerror If anyone from @twitter legal is reading - I confirm that I am contesting any subpoenas - I do not consent. My lawyer will call. | Jan 09 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @evgenymorozov If the Iranian govt asked for DMs of Iranian activists, State Dept would be all over violation of "Internet freedom" !wl | Jan 09 19:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61842989 | Jan 09 19:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Baptist Redbloom (baptistredbloom)'s status on Monday, 10-Jan-11 03:27:15 PHT - baptistredbloom: @schestowitz or install their own #statusnet | Jan 09 19:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] ♺ @jargon: i'm sure glad i don't use #twitter, and only !identica. or i'd be in subpoena hell like some of u. !wikileaks | Jan 09 19:47 | |
| cubezzz | hmmm, schestowitz... some not so good news from thistleweb | Jan 09 19:47 |
| schestowitz | we're working it out | Jan 09 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 There are many WikiLeaks supporters listed in the US Twitter subpoena. !wl | Jan 09 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lensassaman The "don't send @ioerror &c DMs" advice is not what I'd give. 2 late 2 do anything about material covered by subpoena... | Jan 09 19:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ioerror It appears Twitter's legal depart. is fighting a good fight- they had sealed subpoena unsealed; they disclosed it to @birgittaj | Jan 09 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @lensassaman There's still an expectation of privacy, of course. Just no guarantee. So think about what you write before you send it. !wl | Jan 09 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ioerror Lots of respect for @amac & rest of Twitter's legal team for getting word out; we end institutional secrecy together w/action. | Jan 09 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm thanks for those last few pointers | Jan 09 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wikileaks2 New official Julian Assange defense fund ; let us see Paypal try to close this one down too! http://www.fsilaw.com/ !wl | Jan 09 19:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Welcome - FSI .::. Size~: 51.43 KB | Jan 09 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It seems like #whitecollar bullies are looking for 'dirt' on members and 'sympathisers' of !wikileaks with which to make a case against them | Jan 09 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How many #whitecollar criminals whose offences were unravelled by !wikileak #cablegate is the US DoJ subpoenaing? Wrong targets, DOJ. Shame. | Jan 09 19:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DOJ sympathisers -- you're being watched. ;-) | Jan 09 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ggreenwald Have copy of the court-ordered DOJ subpoena served on Twitter - up in a minute - names several WikiLeaks-related individuals. | Jan 09 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Drinking quarts of gunpowder tea, trying to stay awake to finish this edit... | Jan 09 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @DanielEllsberg No US law could criminalize !wikileaks/Assange that wouldn’t apply exactly to publisher of @nytimes or to Bob Woodward | Jan 09 19:55 | |
| GoForbes28 | You know, Apple may lose revenue over this | Jan 09 19:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Birgittaj USA gov't wants to know abt all my tweets & more since Nov. 1st 2009. do they realize i am a member of Parliament in Iceland? | Jan 09 19:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ggreenwald On the DOJ subpoena served on Twitter 4 WikiLeaks users, w/links to Subpoena and court's unsealing order http://ur1.ca/2s0w8 | Jan 09 19:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DOJ subpoenas Twitter records of several WikiLeaks volunteers - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com .::. Size~: 76.85 KB | Jan 09 19:57 |
| GoForbes28 | There are some people buying OS X to install on Hackintoshs | Jan 09 19:57 |
| GoForbes28 | With this app store and increasing locked-down nature, people may be disuaded from making Hackintoshes | Jan 09 19:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Oh wow. | Jan 09 19:58 |
| cubezzz | there's tons of interesting other stuff though | Jan 09 19:58 |
| GoForbes28 | The app store is just a web page | Jan 09 19:58 |
| GoForbes28 | Nice, take a book from Microsoft silliness | Jan 09 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm with 152 dents! | Jan 09 19:59 | |
| cubezzz | fuzebox comes to mind | Jan 09 19:59 |
| GoForbes28 | It reminds of webpages pretending to application respositories | Jan 09 19:59 |
| GoForbes28 | It looks like an advertisement | Jan 09 20:00 |
| cubezzz | you don't like what is out there, make your own respository | Jan 09 20:00 |
| GoForbes28 | Or just don't use OS X | Jan 09 20:00 |
| cubezzz | yeah I don't :) | Jan 09 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm What does is US Gov't & DOJ trying to accomplish re: !WikiLeaks ... to punish people who exposed bad behaviour and CRIME | Jan 09 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] A Little Bit Mucky Dancing #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the US DOJ is for justice, why is it hounding those who also seek justice and not those whom they expose? DOJ is become farce like USPTO. | Jan 09 20:00 | |
| GoForbes28 | I've used it, nothing I can't do in GNU/Linux, even the unified menus can be implemented | Jan 09 20:01 |
| cubezzz | if you look at some GNU/Linux distros you'll see a pattern | Jan 09 20:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DOJ reputation was already in the rubbish for hiring people from companies it 'watches' (MSFT law) and even RIAA lawyers. What a joke. | Jan 09 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Revolving doors" syndrome means that #DOJ does not serve its real clients (US citizens) and instead serves corporations, just like Visa. | Jan 09 20:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Star Trek - The Search for Cash #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:02 | |
| cubezzz | they go well until the maintainer(s) stop working on it | Jan 09 20:03 |
| cubezzz | of course, some new maintainer could come along, but often that doesn't happen | Jan 09 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm wikiLeaks Only the guy ALLEGED to have leaked evidence of crime has served time.And not just any "time" but torturous time | Jan 09 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[1g0r/@1g0r] @richslxh: I'm in the same situation as you are. But I thought the message was worth fowarding... !wl It's an interesting situation | Jan 09 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Drain Damage #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:04 | |
| cubezzz | two good examples: tom's root boot and DSL | Jan 09 20:04 |
| cubezzz | both kind of dead now | Jan 09 20:04 |
| GoForbes28 | or Xandros *shutter* | Jan 09 20:04 |
| cubezzz | Tom's Root Boot was neat, it could fit on one 3.5" disk | Jan 09 20:05 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: we have someone shake the tree in techbytes for months | Jan 09 20:05 |
| schestowitz | I hope it's OK now | Jan 09 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Bronzefinger #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @MeeGo_OS: #MeeGo Intel demonstrates first open source MeeGo tablet at CES - LinuxWorld.com http://dlvr.it/CztzK | Jan 09 20:05 | |
| GoForbes28 | Roy: elaborate? | Jan 09 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Source Seeker: Intel demonstrates first open source MeeGo tablet at CES | Network World .::. Size~: 85.18 KB | Jan 09 20:05 |
| gnufreex | [20:55:32] <GoForbes28> There are some people buying OS X to install on Hackintoshs | Jan 09 20:06 |
| gnufreex | OS X is $29... (and I didn't buy it when I messed with Hackintosh, I just pirated; couldn't justify giving money to apple.) Revenue from that is probably below $100k, meaning they wont feel it. | Jan 09 20:06 |
| GoForbes28 | cubezzz: well, I think there are other distros that have matched that functionality | Jan 09 20:06 |
| GoForbes28 | gnufreex: good point | Jan 09 20:06 |
| schestowitz | We sort of the techbytes situation by listening to each other | Jan 09 20:06 |
| GoForbes28 | so it's a foursome again? | Jan 09 20:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Men who glance at goats #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:07 | |
| cubezzz | GoForbes28, I know of no distro that can fit on one 3.5" disk | Jan 09 20:07 |
| cubezzz | not even BL3 | Jan 09 20:07 |
| gnufreex | even kernel only can't fit on floppy | Jan 09 20:08 |
| gnufreex | Try MINIX | Jan 09 20:08 |
| GoForbes28 | I could have sworn there way one, but oh well | Jan 09 20:08 |
| cubezzz | not true | Jan 09 20:08 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah | Jan 09 20:08 |
| cubezzz | older ones can | Jan 09 20:08 |
| GoForbes28 | my floppy drive doesn't even work anymore | Jan 09 20:08 |
| _Goblin | was it LFS thats only 10meg or DSL..... | Jan 09 20:09 |
| _Goblin | can't remember now... | Jan 09 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @xenijardin • What other online services hv been subpoenaed? Have turned over data? Twitter didn't have to notify acct holders, but did. | Jan 09 20:09 | |
| cubezzz | nothing 2.6 could fit, yes | Jan 09 20:09 |
| GoForbes28 | Sitaz is pretty impressive from size standpoint | Jan 09 20:09 |
| cubezzz | it is | Jan 09 20:09 |
| GoForbes28 | beats DSL | Jan 09 20:09 |
| cubezzz | definitely | Jan 09 20:09 |
| GoForbes28 | But isn't Debian capable of those sizes? | Jan 09 20:09 |
| cubezzz | no, you just can't do it with a newer kernel | Jan 09 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @xenijardin• Have similar demands been made of financial service providers such as Mastercard, Visa, and Paypal? What about Amazon? !wl | Jan 09 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @EditorAMPM @laurelrusswurm @birgittaj They'd get more truth from !WL than from any USA formal releases. The fudge bar would be maxed out | Jan 09 20:10 | |
| GoForbes28 | Sitaz even beats ConnochaetOS formerly Deli | Jan 09 20:11 |
| GoForbes28 | though ConnochaetOS is now free software ostensibly | Jan 09 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm Isn't it interesting that this all came down on Friday Night after the DOJ was closed for the weekend? !wl !Cablegate | Jan 09 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Every which way you might be able to if you're lucky #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[meegoportal/@meegoportal] RT @chansearrington: RT @stroughtonsmith: Blogpost: Nexus S + MeeGo (the first non-Android OS to run on the Nexus S?) http://bit.ly/dQ0UjR | Jan 09 20:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: High Caffeine Content: Nexus S + MeeGo .::. Size~: 50.35 KB | Jan 09 20:12 |
| cubezzz | but yeah fitting on a 3.5" is probably unnecessary now | Jan 09 20:12 |
| GoForbes28 | I know a friend with a Toshiba 320CDT and an Hitachi M1200 | Jan 09 20:12 |
| GoForbes28 | Pentium 1 mmx and plain Pentium 1 | Jan 09 20:13 |
| GoForbes28 | 4 gb and 2 gb | Jan 09 20:13 |
| cubezzz | they fudged it by formatting a 1.44" to 1.7 meg too | Jan 09 20:13 |
| GoForbes28 | low ram | Jan 09 20:13 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah | Jan 09 20:13 |
| GoForbes28 | wonder why 1.7 wasn't used more often | Jan 09 20:13 |
| GoForbes28 | it's just a formatting change | Jan 09 20:13 |
| cubezzz | is fdformat part of all distros or...? | Jan 09 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm ... DOJ subpoena story: "The justice department did not returns calls seeking comment last night." http://ur1.ca/2rzma | Jan 09 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @TheJusticeDept : January is National Stalking Awareness Month. http://www.usdoj.gov/ovw >> so why are you stalking !WikiLeaks? Bad DOJ | Jan 09 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Stoney I, II, III, IV (rocky) #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm rt @Asher_Wolf RT @_x4o: The US DOJ is on twitter ---->> @TheJusticeDept -->> is a verified account | Jan 09 20:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Icelandic MP fights US demand for her Twitter account details | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 93.59 KB | Jan 09 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: USDOJ: Office on Violence Against Women .::. Size~: 41.3 KB | Jan 09 20:14 |
| gnufreex | You can format 1.44 flopy to 1.7 ? | Jan 09 20:14 |
| gnufreex | How? | Jan 09 20:14 |
| GoForbes28 | apparently | Jan 09 20:14 |
| cubezzz | fdformat | Jan 09 20:14 |
| GoForbes28 | http://toastytech.com/files/nformat.html | Jan 09 20:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NFormat Floppy Disk Formatter .::. Size~: 3.19 KB | Jan 09 20:14 |
| gnufreex | Can you format it to 1GB :-) | Jan 09 20:14 |
| GoForbes28 | sure, just get around 1000 flopies | Jan 09 20:15 |
| gnufreex | That sounds like fun | Jan 09 20:15 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm not linking to that because of the software | Jan 09 20:15 |
| GoForbes28 | nformat is proprietary | Jan 09 20:15 |
| GoForbes28 | but that page does explain the formats | Jan 09 20:15 |
| cubezzz | an ultimate boot cd with all the small distros on it would be nice to have | Jan 09 20:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] The Jungle Pamphlet #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What does @TheJusticeDept do when it forgets its password? It demands it from Twitter and threatens with arrest. !wl #DepartmentOfJoke | Jan 09 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ggreenwald @ioerror Just so you know: the Order doesn't incl. #Twitter content (i.e. tweets or DMs) "only" all other records !wikiLeaks | Jan 09 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @by Asher_Wolf ♺ @WLLegal Stored Communications Act (1986) as outdated as Espionage Act (when email still almost non-existent.) !wl | Jan 09 20:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] 47 Hours #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:15 | |
| cubezzz | mknod /dev/fd0u1722 :) | Jan 09 20:16 |
| GoForbes28 | meh cds | Jan 09 20:16 |
| cubezzz | never tried it myself | Jan 09 20:16 |
| GoForbes28 | SD card or usb stil makes more sense | Jan 09 20:16 |
| cubezzz | yeah except... | Jan 09 20:16 |
| cubezzz | what about us old dudes with old old computers? | Jan 09 20:16 |
| GoForbes28 | hey, I'm only 20 | Jan 09 20:17 |
| cubezzz | I have tons of working 1.44 drives | Jan 09 20:17 |
| GoForbes28 | but I lived through the Macintosh System 7 and Windows 3.11 era | Jan 09 20:17 |
| GoForbes28 | me too | Jan 09 20:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Spiderspider #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Enter the Lizard #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Heaven knows how many places have rec'ved similar subpoenas and just quietly submitted."~ @rop_g http://ur1.ca/2s1gv /via @laurelrusswurm | Jan 09 20:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US DOJ subpoenas my twitter account info « rop.gonggri.jp .::. Size~: 97.08 KB | Jan 09 20:17 |
| GoForbes28 | win 311 was so bad in restrospect | Jan 09 20:18 |
| cubezzz | well it wasn't good that's for sure | Jan 09 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] The Big Boss....'s little brother Pauly #lessambitiousfilms | Jan 09 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @calixte Let's use DoJ #subpoena of Twitter re: @birgittaj 2 lobby 4 a strong data protection agreement http://bit.ly/dTSZZs !wikileaks | Jan 09 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm... @calixte @xenijardin Want Twitter + privacy? Run local instance of #StatusNet 4 U & UR peeps <viaTwitter | Jan 09 20:19 | |
| GoForbes28 | If I only I had grown up with a better OS environment | Jan 09 20:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: COM/2010/0252 - EU-wiki .::. Size~: 19.22 KB | Jan 09 20:19 |
| GoForbes28 | though at least FreeDOS exists | Jan 09 20:19 |
| GoForbes28 | brb | Jan 09 20:19 |
| cubezzz | even doze had that DMF format don't forget | Jan 09 20:19 |
| cubezzz | so doubled sided, 82 tracks, 21 sec/track | Jan 09 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm @xenijardin The PR firm that now reportedly represents Julian #Assange also reps the #Chippendales and the #SpiceGirls | Jan 09 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] /me recommends following @laurelrusswurm - brave lady! | Jan 09 20:20 | |
| cubezzz | probably wouldn't work on all disks I imagine | Jan 09 20:21 |
| cubezzz | evidently cdrom driver disks are pretty good for that though | Jan 09 20:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @hypatiadotca RT @rop_g: For all these people that were asking: this kind of thing is why people run their own mail servers. Get it now? | Jan 09 20:22 | |
| GoForbes28 | back | Jan 09 20:22 |
| cubezzz | in fact, I think I'd try it now | Jan 09 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Running one's own mail server (I do) is not enough.Even w/ encryption there are proprietary 'pipes' - solution is a wireless mesh+encryption | Jan 09 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FogComputing means no data protection. Authorities must advocate it for more control over people. | Jan 09 20:24 | |
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| cubezzz | hmm, fc1 has /dev/fd0u1722 | Jan 09 20:24 |
| _Goblin | <GoForbes28> hey, I'm only 20 - aww you young pup! I guess you never struggled loading from a C16 audio tape? | Jan 09 20:24 |
| cubezzz | C16 :) | Jan 09 20:24 |
| cubezzz | new fangled stuff | Jan 09 20:24 |
| GoForbes28 | I've had to deal with Casettes | Jan 09 20:25 |
| _Goblin | I can go back further! | Jan 09 20:25 |
| _Goblin | er.... | Jan 09 20:25 |
| GoForbes28 | please do | Jan 09 20:25 |
| cubezzz | casettes seem to last though | Jan 09 20:25 |
| GoForbes28 | :) | Jan 09 20:25 |
| cubezzz | ok, Kim-1 | Jan 09 20:25 |
| _Goblin | ZX80? | Jan 09 20:25 |
| cubezzz | that's 1976 | Jan 09 20:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] @schestowitz And corporations are dataholics. | Jan 09 20:25 | |
| GoForbes28 | unless you rewind without hitting stop first | Jan 09 20:25 |
| cubezzz | you know they cloned the kim-1 recently? | Jan 09 20:26 |
| GoForbes28 | learned that really quickly after one tape that I kept having to listen to | Jan 09 20:26 |
| _Goblin | cubezzz: yeah they rebranded it Windows Vista | Jan 09 20:26 |
| GoForbes28 | I have MIB: The Album on casette! | Jan 09 20:26 |
| GoForbes28 | _Goblin: Nice zing | Jan 09 20:26 |
| cubezzz | wait I got a better one :) | Jan 09 20:27 |
| cubezzz | go to the store and ask | Jan 09 20:27 |
| cubezzz | "Does windows 7 support 486?" | Jan 09 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @gbraad !Fedora Ambassador meeting in !Beijing: http://is.gd/klUwe If you are interested, join us. | Jan 09 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The future of growth seems red in the West and yet all red (for China). Can the West just cling onto #intellectualMonopolies ? Not for long. | Jan 09 20:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [FZH] [Ambassadors] Re: [Ambassadors] Re: [Ambassadors] Re: [Ambassadors] Harish Pillay 將蒞臨北京，期望與 Fedora 社區會面。 .::. Size~: 3.97 KB | Jan 09 20:27 |
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| hmmmm. I'm probably going to stick with Squeeze on the new laptop. | Jan 09 20:28 | |
| cubezzz | it's fully upgraded to 16 megs of ram | Jan 09 20:28 |
| lol | Jan 09 20:28 | |
| power management and x.org are better in squeeze | Jan 09 20:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Happy !subgenius feast of St. Sigmund Freud! | Jan 09 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The good thing is about China, it teaches us what mechanisms of control will be used /next/ in the West. It's like #1984 in real time. | Jan 09 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Statue of #Assange shoving !wikileaks up #Obama's ass http://ur1.ca/2sjde | Jan 09 20:29 | |
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| I'll have to live with KDE 4 warts until people fix them. | Jan 09 20:29 | |
| GoForbes28 | twitter: Any idea when DEbian 6 is coming out? | Jan 09 20:29 |
| cubezzz | oh well, I guess I'll sacrifice the menuetOS disk | Jan 09 20:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Protests are being illeglised, freedom of speech killed, London cops are 'kettling' protesters. Familiar? http://is.gd/krxgf | Jan 09 20:30 | |
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| no idea | Jan 09 20:31 | |
| GoForbes28 | hmm | Jan 09 20:31 |
| GoForbes28 | Anybody know an alternative that Free of WebCT? | Jan 09 20:31 |
| GoForbes28 | *Free alternative to WebCT? | Jan 09 20:32 |
| I don't know what web CT is | Jan 09 20:32 | |
| GoForbes28 | Blackboard? | Jan 09 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Only 2-3 years ago we joked about #China demanding chat logs from Skype. Now we have the US DOJ (no less!) demanding personal #twitter data. | Jan 09 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] China is always ahead of the curve, not just in affordable technology. What will the West have left to be proud of? Freedom? LOL. | Jan 09 20:32 | |
| Ick, Blackboard. | Jan 09 20:33 | |
| Yes, there's a good free replacement for Blackboard but I don't know what you can do if your school is using Blackboard. | Jan 09 20:33 | |
| GoForbes28 | yeah | Jan 09 20:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @BernardKeane: Between torture of Gulet Mohamed and WL Twitter subpoena, Obama admin appears entirely indistinguishable from Bush's | Jan 09 20:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Where is the 'Gitmo' of China? | Jan 09 20:34 | |
| GoForbes28 | I meant it as a more hypothetical question | Jan 09 20:34 |
| GoForbes28 | The chances of me influencing University choices in this regard is on par with a rabbit against a moving boulder | Jan 09 20:34 |
| tell your University what you think anyway.. | Jan 09 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Seeing ACTA, twitter subpoena, wikileaks, Manning treatment by US - Is that the change Obama promised? #FAIL | Jan 09 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer changing shoes | Jan 09 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Only Apple can sell you power adaptors. MagSafe patents not up for licensing. FRAND at its best :-) http://ur1.ca/2s2i8 | Jan 09 20:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple's MagSafe lawsuit tests limits of first-sale doctrine .::. Size~: 31.84 KB | Jan 09 20:35 |
| GoForbes28 | I guess it can't hurt... | Jan 09 20:36 |
| if you are a student, there is not much they can do to you. | Jan 09 20:36 | |
| blackboard is expensive and buggy | Jan 09 20:37 | |
| cubezzz | hosed, my disks are probably bad | Jan 09 20:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In China, criticising the government lead to a witch-hunt by the government; In US,criticising banks leads to a witch-hunt by the government | Jan 09 20:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Politics is the shadow cast by business over society" --John Dewey | Jan 09 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @wikileaks Note that we can assume Google & Facebook also have secret US government subpeonas... | Jan 09 20:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @glynmoody Obama wants Internet IDs for the masses - http://bit.ly/eEL40v what could possibly go wrong? #surveillance #identity | Jan 09 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm @TheJusticeDept I follow @WikiLeaks because I don't believe frightening citizens into submission leads to a healthy # ... | Jan 09 20:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama wants Internet IDs for the masses | TG Daily .::. Size~: 52.58 KB | Jan 09 20:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/24193746266492928 re ♺ @ender2070 Just got home and I am setting up my new HP Mini 110-1033ca with Fedora 32-bit KDE. I'm going to try Plasma Netbook! <it's nice | Jan 09 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ender2070: @schestowitz It is :) | Jan 09 20:41 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you try kde-netbook | Jan 09 20:41 |
| GoForbes28 | Internet ID for the masses... | Jan 09 20:41 |
| schestowitz | plasma-netbook I mean | Jan 09 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I tried it in fedora | Jan 09 20:42 |
| GoForbes28 | Well, maybe GNU/Linux will support it like TPM and allow for a reset->new keys function ;) | Jan 09 20:42 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz: yes a while ago.....off usb on the netbook Im using downstairs | Jan 09 20:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/noahfecks/status/24200688305176576 | Jan 09 20:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @noahfecks: RT @schestowitz: Without free software, decentralised services don't mean much - antifeatures can be put in without chance of removal. #fsf | Jan 09 20:42 |
| *AdmFubar_ (4b21247b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.33.36.123) has joined #techrights | Jan 09 20:42 | |
| AdmFubar_ | hi all | Jan 09 20:43 |
| _Goblin | but you know not to ask me to champion KDE.....im entrenched with Gnome.....or xfce | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ender2070/status/24201521499475970 | Jan 09 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ender2070: @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm what is so brave about complaining about the right wing and getting people onto her side of the dialectic | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Brandon improved a lot | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | I think Fedora pushed him a little | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | After he had gone off nicotine | Jan 09 20:43 |
| _Goblin | who? | Jan 09 20:43 |
| _Goblin | oh | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | ender | Jan 09 20:43 |
| _Goblin | I see ...sorru | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | He has moods sometimes | Jan 09 20:43 |
| _Goblin | *sorry | Jan 09 20:43 |
| AdmFubar_ | just thought it might be a good idea to have the rss feeds separated but language.. :) | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | People who have two sides are hard to work with | Jan 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | One day they are your friend, the next day the opposite | Jan 09 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @DavidGaleUK: @schestowitz DoJ allows US companies to operate illegally as extension of aggressive US Foreign Policy: http://www.tadag.com | Jan 09 20:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @laurelrusswurm rt @coldacid ♺ @Anonymous Why are you unfollowing @wikileaks? Are you afraid that gov't will know you love freedom? > ... | Jan 09 20:44 | |
| GoForbes28 | Yeah | Jan 09 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | AdmFubar_: yeah | Jan 09 20:44 |
| GoForbes28 | fortunately, I'm more or less consistent | Jan 09 20:44 |
| AdmFubar_ | :) | Jan 09 20:44 |
| schestowitz | I'll do this if I carry on getting translations this often. Been only like this since December | Jan 09 20:44 |
| AdmFubar_ | yeah, you have enough traffic on the rss, no need to add more with multi languages.. | Jan 09 20:45 |
| there was something about the US gov, twitter and wikileaks | Jan 09 20:47 | |
| cubezzz | another reason Stallman is so awesome | Jan 09 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Someone needs to brush up on chemistry: "Most batteries today are made from lithium, which contains lead" #Durham County Solid Waste Dept. | Jan 09 20:47 | |
| GoForbes28 | Hey Roy, I have to go for a bit | Jan 09 20:47 |
| cubezzz | he's multilingual | Jan 09 20:47 |
| AdmFubar_ | laters all | Jan 09 20:47 |
| GoForbes28 | One more thing though, I noticed some minor spelling errors in some of your posts | Jan 09 20:48 |
| GoForbes28 | would you like me to proofread? | Jan 09 20:48 |
| cubezzz | ok, Maxwell Disks ftw | Jan 09 20:48 |
| cubezzz | the only disk that would format to 1.7 | Jan 09 20:48 |
| cubezzz | er, Maxell | Jan 09 20:48 |
| GoForbes28 | in the future? | Jan 09 20:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Julian Assange hires PR team http://is.gd/krAlI oh, no... feeding a nasty industry. Waste of donated money, IMHO | Jan 09 20:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange hires PR team .::. Size~: 97.9 KB | Jan 09 20:49 |
| oh man, big witch hunt -> ake writes "The US government's 11-page document on how to get various US government agencies to prevent future leaks has been leaked. It doesn't get any more ironic than that. After the various leaks made by WikiLeaks, the US government understandably wants to limit the number of potential leaks, but their strategy apparently isn't implemented yet. It's clear that the Obama administration is telling federal agen | Jan 09 20:49 | |
| idiots! | Jan 09 20:49 | |
| GoForbes28 | Just identi me your response, roy | Jan 09 20:49 |
| GoForbes28 | brb | Jan 09 20:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer And you still think all these privacy invading law changes are solely used for anti-terrorism? Think again. #wl | Jan 09 20:50 | |
| DaemonFC | I just downloaded a bunch of mp3s by accident, ugggh | Jan 09 20:51 |
| *DaemonFC bangs head and starts over | Jan 09 20:51 | |
| DaemonFC | I wondered why they got done so fast :( | Jan 09 20:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientists say dolphins should be treated as 'non-human persons' http://is.gd/krAX3 "human"=human's word for ego-pleasing vs "animals" | Jan 09 20:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humans are animals just like pork is a pig and beef is a cow. We love using words to separate the inseparable. Words change thought. | Jan 09 20:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scientists say dolphins should be treated as 'non-human persons' - Times Online .::. Size~: 24.9 KB | Jan 09 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | glad my bandwidth isn't capped like it used to be or that would have been 1 GB of fuck-up :) | Jan 09 20:52 |
| psycho mumbo jumbo. | Jan 09 20:52 | |
| DaemonFC | son't you have some Slashdot to vandalize under one pseudonym or another? | Jan 09 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | *don't | Jan 09 20:53 |
| who's going to leak, let's predicatively punish the people we don't like. | Jan 09 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can the Lybian justice department subpoena twitter? Would it be honoured? Are all countries equal? | Jan 09 20:54 | |
| DaemonFC | openness is sometimes just a codeword for activism | Jan 09 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | take Wikipedia as an example | Jan 09 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | Half of it was done up by Exxon and Microsoft and the NSA | Jan 09 20:55 |
| then there's this too, which is a threat to everyone http://www.boingboing.net/2011/01/07/report-us-subpoenas.html#p6 | Jan 09 20:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US orders Twitter to hand over account data on Wikileaks and multiple Wikileaks supporters - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 151.53 KB | Jan 09 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | and the other half was done up by Limousine Liberals | Jan 09 20:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can the Swedish Pirate Party/TPB use Sealand to subpoena companies and show Swedish judges work for Uncle Sam? | Jan 09 20:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Politics of Fear http://is.gd/krC13 when there is no fear of amorphous enemy, then people proceed to *class* war and *real* issue-solving | Jan 09 20:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Politics of Fear | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 48.16 KB | Jan 09 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android-based Headphones? What? - http://bit.ly/eS8uYF no limits... #android | Jan 09 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The front pages of daily newspapers usually provide good clues as to who's the fake villain/threat/scapegoat du jour - distract and extend | Jan 09 20:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android-based Headphones? What? | Android Phone Fans .::. Size~: 39.16 KB | Jan 09 20:59 |
| of course, there was also that embarrassing incident where students were told not to read wikileaks or they would not be hired by the feds | Jan 09 20:59 | |
| DaemonFC | well so far the feds have done everything they can do to suppress Wikileaks without overtly contradicting the first amendment | Jan 09 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | I assume they won't care so much about appearances if Wikileaks ever becomes more than just an embarrassing pain in the ass | Jan 09 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Philosophy of a alleged killer? - KOLD News 13 http://ow.ly/3AOcz | Jan 09 21:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://www.gop.gov/ shows me a picture of some dude -- I'm not sure what the party stands for based on a photo. | Jan 09 21:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Arm Release 1.4.1 http://is.gd/krD3h "A new release of arm is available" | Jan 09 21:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GOP.gov - The Website of Republicans in Congress .::. Size~: 16.59 KB | Jan 09 21:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Is Happening to Technology Reporting these Days? http://is.gd/krDiQ reporting is in good blogs these days | Jan 09 21:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | A Pledge To America from the GOP probably goes on and on about suppressing access to birth control and making sure that kids know that Jesus rode a Brontosaurus 5,000 years ago | Jan 09 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I was watching an episode of Dr. Who earlier that made me laugh | Jan 09 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | They were in the year 100 trillion and a line came up where he said something like "Just sit there and hit the reboot key every time it crashes" | Jan 09 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Who knew Microsoft would still be there?" | Jan 09 21:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Why non-gamers should care about !fs games ♺ @nailuj: Really good talk on #FLOSS and Gaming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ct36u8RPIU #lo | Jan 09 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @proclus If you cannot mirror Wikileaks, you might consider mirroring their mirror list. http://ping.fm/K8QtG http://ping.fm/DJrpa #l ... | Jan 09 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @schestowitz ♺ @Asher Wolf ♺ @jamesrbuk: @twitter should notify all users who've had information requests in relation to US State !wi ... | Jan 09 21:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] I am going to be late for work tomorrow. 4 commits including one big functionality. Most productive weekend! | Jan 09 21:14 | |
| DaemonFC | the GNU/Darwin page looks like a teenage activist's Myspace | Jan 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'm blind | Jan 09 21:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Microsoft Deal With ARM Seals Divorce With Intel | ITProPortal.com http://ow.ly/3AOwS | Jan 09 21:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Deal With ARM Seals Divorce With Intel | ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 35.33 KB | Jan 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576063713471775694.html?mod=igoogle_wsj_gadgv1& | Jan 09 21:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Wins One Against Microsoft - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 175.09 KB | Jan 09 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | someone at the Interior Department tried to give Microsoft a no-bid government contract in violation of competition laws, I get that | Jan 09 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | but why complain about it now when the Bush administration got away with it all the time | Jan 09 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | they routinely handed out no-bid contracts to companies who overcharged and did inferior work that no-doubt got people killed | Jan 09 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | why all the fuss about who gets to provide Interior with email? | Jan 09 21:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Dear EU commission/parliament/council - don't talk about protecting our privacy when you are the ones that sold it first... | Jan 09 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Mixdown of a new !LO happening right now.... | Jan 09 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer Imagine @brigittaj was a chinese dissident and it was the chines gov, not DoJ asking for all twitter. You get the idea. | Jan 09 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer not a good example because twitter is a US-based service | Jan 09 21:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RIAA Admits P2P Not Solely to Blame for Decreased Music Sales http://is.gd/krHfW they face competition from CC | Jan 09 21:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Breaking: Multiple Activists and Members of the Pirate Party Arrested http://is.gd/krHtD | Jan 09 21:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: RIAA Admits P2P Not Solely to Blame for Decreased Music Sales » ZeroPaid.com .::. Size~: 40.82 KB | Jan 09 21:29 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The problem is that they get to pad their "lost sales" by not counting subscription revenue as sales | Jan 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | so they get to cheat the artist out of money and claim they're losing sales while the revenue keeps flowing in | Jan 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | must be a nice little racket | Jan 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | The reason Spotify is kept out of the US market is because the end user gets to decide what music gets played and how often | Jan 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | the RIAA doesn't want that | Jan 09 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @rlancefield culture of fear around copyright perfectly illustrated. Look at ridiculous disclaimers under screenshot http://bit.ly/gGbWy3 | Jan 09 21:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | they rightly fear that if something like Spotify got a foothold here and started making mobile apps, that their sales really would be finished | Jan 09 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | One of the dumber things I've seen are those SlotRadio cards that Sandisk puts out | Jan 09 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Watch the cover page of Der Spiegel http://is.gd/krIzP | Jan 09 21:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks-Unterstützer: US-Justizministerium verlangt Zugriff auf Twitter-Daten - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Netzwelt .::. Size~: 61.02 KB | Jan 09 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz That's a Spiegel Special. Will buy it tmrw together with normal Spiegel with Facebook as cover. | Jan 09 21:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @GoForbes28 yes, proofreading would help, even minor things | Jan 09 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jm1ah/status/24209497824165889 | Jan 09 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jm1ah: @schestowitz Isn't the only reason we know about this because twitter made it public? | Jan 09 21:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/thanatos_rises/status/24211487086084096 | Jan 09 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thanatos_rises: @schestowitz @calixte @birgittaj Wonder if we should start encrypting our tweets with government snooping on the rise? Always a thought. | Jan 09 21:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer ah, man of the year with 10% Assange's votes :-) | Jan 09 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] DoJ accuses Loughner. Seemingly details about everything being planned from doc in bank safe used by Loughner. Myth of lone lunatic #FAIL? | Jan 09 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @silner via @erkanyilmaz: "Pardus" Google translates as "bug" ? http://bit.ly/fSF65S - #pardus is a #Linux distro made in !turkey | Jan 09 21:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Pardus-users] Pardus equals bug .::. Size~: 2.35 KB | Jan 09 21:50 |
| ick, a late 90's Windows screen shot. | Jan 09 21:51 | |
| use encrypted versions of jabber and run the service yourself -> @thanatos_rises: @schestowitz @calixte @birgittaj Wonder if we should start encrypting our tweets with government snooping on the rise? Always a thought. | Jan 09 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz Spiegel is about evilness of Google/FB and loss of privacy, not Man of the year appraisal ;-) | Jan 09 21:52 | |
| services like twitter should be avoided | Jan 09 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] RD @LouPage: Many People Miss The Joke About Facebook Shutting Down in March http://bit.ly/h8g631 | ROTFL | Jan 09 21:54 | |
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| schestowitz | "Remember Life of Brian? Dear #DoJ - I am Julian Assange. And my wife is also Julian Assange. And my best freind is also Julian Assange :-)" | Jan 09 21:55 |
| schestowitz | me drops twitter :-) | Jan 09 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer just Google and FB? | Jan 09 21:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Zuckerberg: "I need to put an end to all the madness.” Facebook shuts down March 15th. http://ur1.ca/2sk3j | Jan 09 21:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz I am quite sure not just GOOG/FB. Will tell you tmrw after having bought Spiegel. Just as every monday in past 25 years, BTW | Jan 09 21:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FACEBOOK WILL END ON MARCH 15th! | Weekly World News .::. Size~: 3292.01 KB | Jan 09 21:59 |
| will techrights run a jabber server? | Jan 09 21:59 | |
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| bbl | Jan 09 22:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Sony hopes for SmartPhone success – A guess at Xperia http://tinyurl.com/27sfgde !sony !smartphone !xperia !psp | Jan 09 22:00 | |
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| GoForbes28 | hello | Jan 09 22:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer @birgittaj I hope you noticed you have quite some new followers that are supporting IMMI and want to help whatever needed. | Jan 09 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jilliancyork Israel demolishes historic E. Jerusalem hotel to make room for settlements http://bit.ly/gGhYet "despite global opposition" | Jan 09 22:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Doing LO show notes... | Jan 09 22:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks events & protests world wide http://alturl.com/57qc2 !wl | Jan 09 22:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jwildeboer: Wenn ich selbst Joghurt mache und Actimel als Starter verwende - ist das dann eine #Raubkopie? >>deep (v @einfeldt) | Jan 09 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Angry Birds Coming to Playstation Store http://www.tomsguide.com/us/angry-birds,news-9574.html !sony !psp !psn | Jan 09 22:10 | |
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| GoForbes28 | So Roy, how would this proofreading worth | Jan 09 22:11 |
| GoForbes28 | do you have rough copies of posts in a text format? | Jan 09 22:11 |
| schestowitz | did you spot typos in recent posts? | Jan 09 22:13 |
| schestowitz | Also, we can co-edit in the wiki | Jan 09 22:13 |
| schestowitz | That's what we sometimes do | Jan 09 22:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @wildcard RT @q4td “The number of those who undergo the fatigue of judging for themselves is very small indeed. —Richard Brinsley Sheridan | Jan 09 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[goforbes28/@goforbes28] SIP Communicator now at build 3213 | Jan 09 22:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @rysiek " - I want peace on earth and goodwill towards men | - we are the US gov't, we don't do such things!" !q #Sneakers | Jan 09 22:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@glynmoody @Einfeldt EN version: When I cultivate my own yogurt and use Danone Actimel as Starter culture - is that illegal piracy? | Jan 09 22:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Your #socialgraph belongs to you, why not host it yourself instead of google, facebook,twitter? http://ur1.ca/2s3qe | Jan 09 22:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: PRR – Privacy Respecting Router a #freedentity idea | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 34.91 KB | Jan 09 22:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Inflation is to currencies what "freedom2.0" is to us people - you loose value and trust. #wl | Jan 09 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer To all Unfollowers of #WL: Your anticipatory obedience is appreciated by the Ministry of Truth. #wikileaks #IFWL | Jan 09 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @glynmoody I will meet CTO of Danone soonish and will officiall ask. I am honestly curious to find out. #notajoke #IPMadness | Jan 09 22:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @silner ♻ @threethirty I follow @WikiLeaks because #democracy is precious, and information wants to be Free http://ur1.ca/2shsx #IFWL | Jan 09 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @jwildeboer To all Unfollowers of #WL: Your anticipatory obedience is appreciated by the Ministry of Truth. #wikileaks #IFWL | Jan 09 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jamesm/@jamesm] email catchup begins - Folder: in-lkml Message 62 of 6,078 NEW | Jan 09 22:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tunisia's bitter cyberwar - Features - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 93.55 KB | Jan 09 22:19 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah | Jan 09 22:19 |
| GoForbes28 | minor stuff | Jan 09 22:19 |
| GoForbes28 | like "who" when I think it should say "one" | Jan 09 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @jwildeboer EN version: When I cultivate my own yogurt and use Danone Actimel as Starter culture - is that illegal piracy? >>nice | Jan 09 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ludost Like me: "History is when you grow up first in one country and then in another, and you didn't even move" v @laurelrusswurm | Jan 09 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webupd8/@webupd8] Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Week 52 - 2010, Week 1 - 2011) http://bit.ly/gZSli2 | Jan 09 22:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Last 2 Weeks Top Posts (Week 52 - 2010, Week 1 - 2011) ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 52.29 KB | Jan 09 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Shane and I used to help each other with links | Jan 09 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I think to keep the site's pace up we can use the wiki more to complete works and cross-check | Jan 09 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Do you wanna try? | Jan 09 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @russellmcormond I follow @WikiLeaks b/c Accountability isn't an Act granted Royal Assent 12/12/2006 it's way of looking @ politics #IFWL | Jan 09 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Working on a playlist for !fudcon tempe's FUDPub event. :) | Jan 09 22:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @glynmoody Gene Smith http://bit.ly/gnSU85 "almost single-handedly ensured the survival of Tibetan literature after the Chinese invasion" | Jan 09 22:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gene Smith - Telegraph .::. Size~: 72.41 KB | Jan 09 22:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.opendemocracy.net/constanze-stelzenm%C3%BCller/hungarys-new-media-law-shows-contempt-for-democracy-free-speech-and-separati | Jan 09 22:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hungary's new media law shows contempt for democracy, the separation of powers and core European ideals | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 42.58 KB | Jan 09 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @wikileaks2 WikiLeaks events & protests world wide http://alturl.com/57qc2 !wl | Jan 09 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @mjgiarlo I follow @wikileaks because official federal government Twitter accounts are boring. #IFWL | Jan 09 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @aboyko I follow @wikileaks because @mjgiarlo made me laugh. #IFWL | Jan 09 22:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Events and protests | WL Central .::. Size~: 49.24 KB | Jan 09 22:25 |
| GoForbes28 | sure, I can try | Jan 09 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Let me set something up.. | Jan 09 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @joabj My, how the script kiddies are busy these days: A list of failed SSH log-ins to my site over the past week: http://bit.ly/eB2Z3U | Jan 09 22:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Jan 09 22:27 |
| MinceR | orban should be hanged | Jan 09 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Ubuntu-and-the-price-of-Unity-1156110.html | Jan 09 22:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu and the price of Unity - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 46.6 KB | Jan 09 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Mark Shuttleworth loves him some Crapple | Jan 09 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 22:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @joabj they must be trying to enter to post via index.html, to gently alert you that your password is weak. Nice of them... | Jan 09 22:29 | |
| DaemonFC | the beauty of the Mac is literally only skin deep | Jan 09 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | why is Canonical intent on emulating this? | Jan 09 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | Turn your workhorse PC into a damned toy with Unity! | Jan 09 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 09 22:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ludost @laurelrusswurm "Listen to the experts" (no matter who they are) and most of all "do not question their expertise".. somethin ... | Jan 09 22:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer .@glynmoody @Einfeldt EN version: When I cultivate my own yogurt and use Danone Actimel as Starter culture - is that ille ... | Jan 09 22:30 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: wait, the mac has beauty? | Jan 09 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | the Unity user interface reminds me of what you'd get if you put a 5 gallon drum of paint into a shaker and forgot to put the lid on | Jan 09 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 22:31 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: let's try: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Monsanto_and_GMO_via_AGRA | Jan 09 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Monsanto and GMO via AGRA - Techrights .::. Size~: 36.24 KB | Jan 09 22:31 |
| schestowitz | This is being edited... well, edited this morning | Jan 09 22:32 |
| schestowitz | needs expansion.... more links... wikipedia... proofreading, etc. | Jan 09 22:32 |
| schestowitz | I'd credit you for co-writing | Jan 09 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, These so-called user interface experts are like modern art Nazis | Jan 09 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's so fugly and nonsensical I hardly know where to begin | Jan 09 22:32 |
| MinceR | agreed | Jan 09 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow WikiLeaks because I want to know if my country commits war crimes; If we don't know we can't stop it. #IFWL | Jan 09 22:34 | |
| MinceR | perhaps they make all that shit up in a pathetic attempt to try and prove that they know something others don't | Jan 09 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | well, sometimes things are done the way they're done because nobody has had a better idea, and sometimes it's because it's how they work best | Jan 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | the problem is when you replace things that work and are good just to change something | Jan 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | that's what's going on here | Jan 09 22:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @ovigia #UK #policestate: "UK Library: Cryptome Blocked for “Criminal Activity”"http://ur1.ca/2s6ik | Jan 09 22:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK Library: Cryptome Blocked for “Criminal Activity” .::. Size~: 99.23 KB | Jan 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | and it's going to make documenting the OS a nightmare too | Jan 09 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | they're going to have to document Unity and GNOME 2 in the next Ubuntu Book because some people will not have good GPUs or drivers that can handle Unity and get kicked back to the ghetto | Jan 09 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 09 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think making a shell that requires hardware acceleration to even work at all is a very bad idea | Jan 09 22:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @jwildeboer Your #socialgraph belongs to you, why not host it yourself instead of google, facebook,twitter? http://ur1 ... | Jan 09 22:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @rysiek " - I want peace on earth and goodwill towards men | - we are the US gov't, we don't do such things!" !q #Sne ... | Jan 09 22:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @birgittaj Today i talked with minister of Foreign Affairs, minister of Justice & President of Icelandic Parliament: more to come soon | Jan 09 22:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz ♻ @birgittaj Today i talked with minister of Foreign Affairs, minister of Justice & President of Icelandic Parliament: m ... | Jan 09 22:37 | |
| MinceR | yes it is | Jan 09 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | making a shell that requires hardware acceleration is basically an advertisement for non-free drivers | Jan 09 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | because everyone will need them just to make the system work | Jan 09 22:38 |
| MinceR | also basically asking for trouble | Jan 09 22:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @xenijardin ♺ @BreakingNews ♺ @Reuters: FLASH: Congresswoman Gifford dies after being shot in the head at public appearance in Tucson, AZ | Jan 09 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] GHABUNTU • by sinaisix: When Real Phones are Objects of Change http://ping.fm/P8LlX | Jan 09 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] rt @threethirty ♺ @xenijardin: Palin website with a bullseye over Gabrielle Gifford's district is down now: http://www.takebackthe20.com/ | Jan 09 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm BoingBoing: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot dead in Arizona,was on Palin's infamous "target" map http://ur1.ca/2s73y | Jan 09 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Windows Phone 7 gorges on your data limit? – More trouble ahead for WP7? http://tinyurl.com/29ltdqr !wp7 !windows !microsoft | Jan 09 22:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: When Real Phones are Objects of Change | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 67.21 KB | Jan 09 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, because now the non-free drivers might have bugs that get tripped by the mandatory compositor | Jan 09 22:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Error processing the URL | Jan 09 22:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona, was on Palin's infamous "target" map (Updated) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 392.79 KB | Jan 09 22:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows Phone 7 gorges on your data limit? – More trouble ahead for WP7? « OpenBytes .::. Size~: 38.33 KB | Jan 09 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no way to fix them and you can't tell the user to turn compositing off | Jan 09 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | so Ubuntu is entirely at the mercy of Nvidia and AMD to fix their drivers | Jan 09 22:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm THIS is why "joking" about assassination is NOT on, Tom #Flanagan . http://ur1.ca/2s73y !wikiLeaks #assassinationpolitics? | Jan 09 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jimbobbysez Canada ranks last in freedom of information. Ethical unaccountability & non-transparency http://ur1.ca/2skin #cdnpoli #IFWL | Jan 09 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Puddletag - Awesome mp3tag-like Editor For Linux ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog http://ping.fm/rnG90 | Jan 09 22:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @DemocracyCanada: "Well, I think Assange should be assassinated, actually." -- Tom Flanagan, former Harper adviser. #incitement #cdnpoli | Jan 09 22:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona, was on Palin's infamous "target" map (Updated) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 392.79 KB | Jan 09 22:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canada ranks last in freedom of information: Study - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 87.51 KB | Jan 09 22:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Puddletag - Awesome mp3tag-like Editor For Linux ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog .::. Size~: 54.28 KB | Jan 09 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | gratuitously putting yourself at the mercy of someone who is not obligated to help you out is a bad idea | Jan 09 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | how often has ATI responded quickly when their drivers cause Compiz to malfunction? | Jan 09 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Android Community • by Chris Burns • Dolphin Browser Mini V1.0 for Android Released Today! http://ping.fm/RAaS9 | Jan 09 22:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jimbobbysez @evansolomoncbc !Wikileaks revealed Prentice might clamp down/oil sands. Will Kent follow suit or shill f/big oil? #cdnpoli | Jan 09 22:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dolphin Browser Mini V1.0 for Android Released Today! | Android Community .::. Size~: 53.04 KB | Jan 09 22:42 |
| GoForbes28 | I'm editting it now roy | Jan 09 22:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow WikiLeaks because I think Bradley Manning should be Freed. #FreeBradley | Jan 09 22:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Metacity actually has a built-in compositor that uses software rendering | Jan 09 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not very obvious how to turn it on or configure it | Jan 09 22:44 |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: thanks! | Jan 09 22:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @laurelrusswurm Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in surgery (fingers crossed) http://ur1.ca/2s73y BecketEffect? >but #Flanagan was 'funny' | Jan 09 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @jwildeboer @spyblog Of course Icelanders are terrorists. Remember 'Lord protect us from the fury of the men of the North.' | Jan 09 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] School's in for open source advocates - http://bit.ly/fFUqsm v. cool: UK should emulate #nz #education (v @gnat) | Jan 09 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @dbostrom Giffords' opponent held target-shooting events to "target" her during election. http://tinyurl.com/27fbajv | Jan 09 22:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona, was on Palin's infamous "target" map (Updated) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 392.79 KB | Jan 09 22:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: School's in for open source advocates | Computerworld NZ .::. Size~: 33.04 KB | Jan 09 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Daily Kos :: Comments Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shot in Arizona .::. Size~: 137.08 KB | Jan 09 22:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @laurelrusswurm King Henry II: "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" inspiring supporters to murder Thomas à Becket in 1170 | Jan 09 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz :D | Jan 09 22:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @laurelrusswurm many more progressives got assassinated. Even a president... http://is.gd/krWmC | Jan 09 22:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Why We Need WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 127.85 KB | Jan 09 22:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How come the press almost ignores the 6+ people killed when Congresswoman #Giffords was shot? Are they lesser people? | Jan 09 22:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Vikings ho! :D Seems to me Iceland is the world leader in respect of privacy protection. *Yay Iceland* | Jan 09 22:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When many people die in China it's not news, it's statistics. The press loves a good storyline. Pretends to value life... | Jan 09 22:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @jwildeboer ..s this the kind of democracy you want to bring to the world with your armed forces? Shame on you. #Angry http://ur1.ca/2s7p2 | Jan 09 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] .@themadhatter I organised several #ashmob meetings to fight against Iceland not long ago. | Jan 09 22:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Iceland was an Ogilarchy, now it's become one of the freest countries. But some won't forget what they were 1K years back | Jan 09 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Giffords Opponent, Jesse Kelly, Held June Event to “Shoot a Fully Automatic M16″ to “Get on Target” and “Remove Gabrielle Giffords” | Firedoglake .::. Size~: 301.6 KB | Jan 09 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Among the deaths in assassination plot vs Congresswoman #Giffords “a kid no older than 10 years old” | Jan 09 22:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @cancivlib: MT @TorontoStar: Study ranks Canada’s freedom-of-information laws dead last: NZ topped the list... http://bit.ly/hpKLXF | Jan 09 22:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Study ranks Canada’s freedom-of-information laws dead last - thestar.com .::. Size~: 111.44 KB | Jan 09 22:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/24235320182575105 | Jan 09 22:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @agente_smithe: @schestowitz Is she dead ? Could not recover ? | Jan 09 22:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @quaid ♺ @glynmoody: School's in for open source advocates - http://bit.ly/fFUqsm < Neat! 47% female students in pilot academy. #Cata ... | Jan 09 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith not sure yet | Jan 09 22:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz How come the press almost ignores the 6+ people killed when Congresswoman #Giffords was shot? Are they lesser people? | Jan 09 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: School's in for open source advocates | Computerworld NZ .::. Size~: 33.04 KB | Jan 09 22:57 |
| schestowitz | "@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm What happened there ??? Another crazy gunman, gunning down people??? US has lots of this..." | Jan 09 22:57 |
| schestowitz | But this one's famous | Jan 09 22:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @DVNJr Witness: gunman approached Giffords "from behind, held a gun a foot from her head and began firing." http://nyti.ms/fyRCyd | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @CharlieAngusMP: Shot music video for diamonds in the snow. Heading back north. | Jan 09 22:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @reinouts [Reading tip] #iPhone users come out of the woodwork to complain: http://ur1.ca/2skno #mangler #ventrilo !fs | Jan 09 22:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Intelligent people learn from history. Of course that isn't possible when it's hidden. #IFWL | Jan 09 23:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I want to read about people who died, but #NYTimes gives me a paywall. Money, money, money, shootings, $$ MONETI~1 http://is.gd/krYaw | Jan 09 23:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer "..the gunman as a white male in his mid-20s with short hair and “dressed in a shabby manner.” - not Muslim, I guess. | Jan 09 23:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz @laurelrusswurm many more progressives got assassinated. Even a president... http://is.gd/krWmC | Jan 09 23:00 | |
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| GoForbes28 | what does "are owning life" mean? | Jan 09 23:00 |
| GoForbes28 | shouldn't owning have quotes around it? | Jan 09 23:01 |
| GoForbes28 | if it refers to gene patents, which aren't binding worldwide? | Jan 09 23:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer http://is.gd/krYqe "No one cares, probably because he isn't Muslim. White supremacist terrorism just isn't sexy these days." | Jan 09 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Dear victims and family members - it's a tragedy. Dear Tea Party, Palin #Nowords #FAIL | Jan 09 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @schestowitz That's an amazing video, thanks. http://ur1.ca/2sktk Yet another reason to follow @WikiLeaks #IFWL | Jan 09 23:02 | |
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| schestowitz | GoForbes28: yes, scare quotes would work | Jan 09 23:03 |
| schestowitz | I wrote this in a rush as a draft | Jan 09 23:03 |
| schestowitz | It needs expansion too | Jan 09 23:03 |
| schestowitz | And some bits are left floating, need merging | Jan 09 23:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer ..@cmdln I know. But this not just collateral damage. US people should not accept this. Political warfare, not democracy IMHO | Jan 09 23:04 | |
| GoForbes28 | I've done spelling and grammar on manual corrections via printed-out paper | Jan 09 23:05 |
| GoForbes28 | I must make a salad now and will be back in a few minutes | Jan 09 23:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @woodo79: Political dumbass who whips up fellow dumbasses using gun rhetoric at every opportunity now acting sad/shocked. *** off Palin. | Jan 09 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | GoForbes28: thanks! | Jan 09 23:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer RT @GregMitch: Gunman, naturally, has YouTube channel: http://is.gd/krZDK | Jan 09 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald The last time Jacob Appelbaum re-entered the U.S., his laptop w/taken & he was detained/interrogated for 3 hrs- w/o warrant. | Jan 09 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Dear Sarah Palin, taking your #disturbing "take back the 20" site down is a sign of knowing it was wrong from the start. | Jan 09 23:09 | |
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| schestowitz | "-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith Agreed, but if gunmen who belonged to both NRA and Tea Party killed half the Usonian cabinet unfortunately not much would change" | Jan 09 23:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time to check knowledge of history, people... http://is.gd/ks0aF | Jan 09 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @ggreenwald Enviroment created for U.S. citizens returning home: http://ur1.ca/2skz1 - border laptop seizures do that !wikiLeaks #IFWL | Jan 09 23:12 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 09 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] Performance Work Coming Up For Mesa 7.11: While Mesa 7.10 was just released, there's already been some work begi... http://bit.ly/h5DN3g | Jan 09 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @GregMitch: Screen grab from alleged gunman's My Space page: pistol over White House and "United States History" http://yfrog.com/h2vlzp | Jan 09 23:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Palin is as responsible for the #Arizona shootings as Abu #Hamza is for the London bombings. The parallel has to be made | Jan 09 23:14 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yfrog Photo : yfrog.com/h2vlzp - Shared by jhlaing .::. Size~: 39.57 KB | Jan 09 23:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The supersize skyline: Why 2011 will be the year architecture takes a giant leap upwards - http://ind.pn/hNKURW (v @potockiconsult) | Jan 09 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ satipera @agentsmith: Even in our own community, this sort of thing is not going to make Eric S Raymond apologetic for his NRA ways. | Jan 09 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] More people died in the London bombings so the scale is different but there's no different in principle | Jan 09 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bobjonkman Listen to #Sherrif_Dupnik in his own words http://ur1.ca/2skwq http://ur1.ca/2skwt http://ur1.ca/2skww #Giffords via @TinyOGG | Jan 09 23:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The supersize skyline: Why 2011 will be the year architecture takes a giant leap upwards - Architecture, Arts & Entertainment - The Independent .::. Size~: 144.39 KB | Jan 09 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Sheriff Clarence Dupnik news conference part 1 - Tucson shootings Gabrielle Giffords, John Roll, .::. Size~: 5.53 KB | Jan 09 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Sheriff Clarence Dupnik news conference part 2 - Tucson shootings Gabrielle Giffords, John Roll, .::. Size~: 5.53 KB | Jan 09 23:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: Sheriff Clarence Dupnik news conference part 3 - Tucson shootings Gabrielle Giffords, John Roll, .::. Size~: 5.53 KB | Jan 09 23:16 |
| schestowitz | ";@jwildeboer] RD @jaybaer: Hard for USA to claim moral high ground vs. radical Islam when our internal disagreements turn increasing violent & barbaric." | Jan 09 23:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you love guns, right? | Jan 09 23:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer While gov wastes cycles on HOWTO accuse Assange, nutcracks shoot around. Today in one tweet/dent. | Jan 09 23:17 | |
| DaemonFC | mine anyway | Jan 09 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 09 23:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @jwildeboer Will gunman of AZ also get 7 mo in solitary confinement just as Bradley Manning? Or will s/o pull a Ruby on him tmrw? | Jan 09 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @schestowitz ♻ @jwildeboer While gov wastes cycles on HOWTO accuse Assange, nutcracks shoot around. Today in one tweet/dent. | Jan 09 23:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Judge John Roll Dead: Killed In Arizona Shooting http://is.gd/ks1C6 | Jan 09 23:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge John Roll Dead: Killed In Arizona Shooting .::. Size~: 271.47 KB | Jan 09 23:22 |
| schestowitz | "Instead of subpoenas on #wikileaks peeps, check the DMs if @sarahpalinusa for illegal stuff, dear DoJ." | Jan 09 23:22 |
| I'm a second amendment fan. I've got a family log from the transition from private, state militias to the current Federally owned military system. | Jan 09 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @sixgun: Just released Linux Outlaws 184 - Thankruptcy http://outl.ws/g70YyN -- enjoy, 2hrs of !LO fun | Jan 09 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @Asher_Wolf: Iceland’s Minister of Foreign affairs Skarphédinsson will fight for Icelandic MP Birgitta Jónsdóttir #wl | Jan 09 23:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Outlaws 184 - Thankruptcy — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 21.61 KB | Jan 09 23:24 |
| they used to buy their own equipment | Jan 09 23:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @zuargo Steve Jobs se hace cargo de !Wikileaks http://bit.ly/e0FcT6 < antiguo pero interesante WTF? | Jan 09 23:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple is not your friend. It is your suppressors' friend, just like #MasterCard and #PayPalin | Jan 09 23:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs se hace cargo de Wikileaks - Gizmodo ES - The gadgets weblog .::. Size~: 48.12 KB | Jan 09 23:25 |
| a well armed citizen militia is better than a prostrate citizenry before a professional military | Jan 09 23:26 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: see my next dent | Jan 09 23:28 |
| GoForbes28 | so roy | Jan 09 23:28 |
| GoForbes28 | on the subject of tomorrow's podcat | Jan 09 23:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Proof that Al Qaeda is not the US' main threat... right-wing k00k: "1 down, 434 to go" http://lgf.bz/fKXfLK | Jan 09 23:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @creepcops Judge orders police, SIU to hand over Adam Nobody records; subpoenaed unrelated #G20 brutality case. http://ur1.ca/2slbj | Jan 09 23:29 | |
| GoForbes28 | I'm not sure if it is the SIP protocol or the SIP communicator that is posing problems, though I believe its the later | Jan 09 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 1 down, 534 to go | dispatches from TJICistan .::. Size~: 518.24 KB | Jan 09 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TheRecord - Judge orders police, SIU to hand over Adam Nobody... .::. Size~: 51.59 KB | Jan 09 23:29 |
| GoForbes28 | *latter | Jan 09 23:29 |
| GoForbes28 | so there is also Ekiga I can try | Jan 09 23:29 |
| _Goblin | I had probs with Ekiga, so did, I believe Gordon | Jan 09 23:29 |
| _Goblin | if Roy wants too, he can run the interview with you himself....thats what was done with Brandon... | Jan 09 23:30 |
| GoForbes28 | That wasn't my intent | Jan 09 23:30 |
| GoForbes28 | I wish I could tech support here | Jan 09 23:30 |
| GoForbes28 | there's gotta be a reason | Jan 09 23:30 |
| GoForbes28 | Why would skype work, that really doesn't make sense to me | Jan 09 23:30 |
| GoForbes28 | it's the same driver | Jan 09 23:31 |
| _Goblin | as long as you get your message out....thats all thats important.... | Jan 09 23:31 |
| GoForbes28 | what message? | Jan 09 23:31 |
| _Goblin | whatever it is you speak about in interview | Jan 09 23:31 |
| _Goblin | your opinions,views etc | Jan 09 23:31 |
| _Goblin | its important to have diverse opinion on the show. | Jan 09 23:31 |
| GoForbes28 | Well I do | Jan 09 23:32 |
| GoForbes28 | I was hoping I'd just be part of the discussion group | Jan 09 23:32 |
| GoForbes28 | you know the standard format | Jan 09 23:32 |
| _Goblin | well there is skype.... | Jan 09 23:32 |
| GoForbes28 | if that is the only way, then I will | Jan 09 23:32 |
| _Goblin | Im not sure in anycase how 4 would work on an unscripted show..... | Jan 09 23:32 |
| _Goblin | but we'll see. | Jan 09 23:33 |
| GoForbes28 | I'll probably be silent | Jan 09 23:33 |
| _Goblin | Im pleased you are on though, it will certainly be interesting to listen to...another interview/guest ....last one was Brandon | Jan 09 23:34 |
| GoForbes28 | I'd rather enjoy hearing you guys talk and make fewer, but better comments, then try to interject every time | Jan 09 23:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Phew.... Another !LO released. Taking a break now... | Jan 09 23:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] did jabber.fsfe.org just go down for anyone else as well? !fsfe | Jan 09 23:34 | |
| _Goblin | I don't count Gordon as a guest since he was invited to join..... | Jan 09 23:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @jkoblovsky Guardian: #Iceland summons US envoy over demand for MP's Twitter details: http://ur1.ca/2slhy !wikiLeaks !cablegate | Jan 09 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @schestowitz: @joabj: AllowUsers or AllowGroups is your friend. | Jan 09 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] @agentsmith Wd! I'll have to call you up on Skype, it seems better than just typing! | Jan 09 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @laurelrusswurm rt @jkoblovsky Guardian: #Iceland summons US envoy over demand for MP's Twitter details: http://ur1.ca/2slhy !wikiLea ... | Jan 09 23:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Iceland summons US envoy over demand for MP's Twitter details | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 88.82 KB | Jan 09 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Iceland summons US envoy over demand for MP's Twitter details | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 88.82 KB | Jan 09 23:37 |
| GoForbes28 | goblin, you are running sabayon right? | Jan 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The fact that the guy squeezed out 3 clips worth of bullets tells you that nobody else in the crowd was armed | Jan 09 23:38 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: yeah. | Jan 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | and if they had been, it would be over a lot sooner for that idiot | Jan 09 23:38 |
| GoForbes28 | yeah, source based are often screwy | Jan 09 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | and we wouldn't need the expense of a trial or keeping him alive for the rest of his life in prison | Jan 09 23:38 |
| _Goblin | its not been too problematic....... | Jan 09 23:38 |
| Ah! I found "expandable folders" in KDE 4 | Jan 09 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @schestowitz Proof that Al Qaeda is not the US' main threat... right-wing k00k: "1 down, 434 to go" http://lgf.bz/fKXfLK | Jan 09 23:39 | |
| _Goblin | the way I look at it though with Skype was that it worked, so I never really experimented around with anything else until recently. | Jan 09 23:39 |
| cubezzz | so what software do you need to to the techrights show? | Jan 09 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 1 down, 534 to go | dispatches from TJICistan .::. Size~: 520.24 KB | Jan 09 23:39 |
| _Goblin | cubezzz: Skype....thats it | Jan 09 23:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Arch is my mind is superior, since it uses package management but still manages to be sourced based | Jan 09 23:39 |
| GoForbes28 | Or any VOIP, pending that it works for everyone | Jan 09 23:39 |
| in dolphin it's settings -> view modes -> details -> check expandable folders. | Jan 09 23:39 | |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: but Arch doesn't play a cool music track when you boot the livecd ;) | Jan 09 23:39 |
| *wraithmonk (~quassel@82-71-37-9.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined #techrights | Jan 09 23:39 | |
| that is such a relief. | Jan 09 23:39 | |
| not having them was like falling ten year back in time. | Jan 09 23:40 | |
| GoForbes28 | but Arch was born in Canada ;) | Jan 09 23:40 |
| _Goblin | Nice place......home of one of my favorite wrestlers.... | Jan 09 23:40 |
| _Goblin | Bret Hitman | Jan 09 23:40 |
| _Goblin | Calgary I believe | Jan 09 23:40 |
| GoForbes28 | yuck | Jan 09 23:41 |
| GoForbes28 | the west has problems | Jan 09 23:41 |
| GoForbes28 | if there is a south USA in Canada, its the west | Jan 09 23:41 |
| GoForbes28 | though I think not as bad | Jan 09 23:41 |
| cubezzz | where are you from GoForbes28? | Jan 09 23:41 |
| GoForbes28 | nothing against the wrestler BTW | Jan 09 23:41 |
| GoForbes28 | Ontario | Jan 09 23:41 |
| GoForbes28 | not that far from Ottawa | Jan 09 23:41 |
| *cubezzz nods | Jan 09 23:41 | |
| *wraithmonk (~quassel@82-71-37-9.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has left #techrights | Jan 09 23:41 | |
| twitter likes Quebec | Jan 09 23:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @lryan98245 I follow @wikileaks for the satisfaction that comes from seeing so many of my most far-out theories are totally true. #ifwl | Jan 09 23:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @openbytes Indeed :-) | Jan 09 23:42 | |
| GoForbes28 | Quebec is full of culture, but has problems of its own | Jan 09 23:42 |
| GoForbes28 | like Quebecor | Jan 09 23:42 |
| GoForbes28 | the cable/internet/everything monopoly | Jan 09 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | the bad thing about a trial is that he'll get a jury, the bad thing about a jury is it only takes 1 out of the 12 to hang the jury and lead to a mistrial | Jan 09 23:43 |
| GoForbes28 | In terms of culture Quebec is awesome | Jan 09 23:43 |
| GoForbes28 | for them to separate would be a devastating blow | Jan 09 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | the odds of 1 out of 12 being a rabid right winger who sympathizes with the cause is not trivial | Jan 09 23:43 |
| good food, nice people, pretty place | Jan 09 23:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink @silner @laurelrusswurm when I found @wikileaks' tweet, there were already some 3000 followers less than when it was twee ... | Jan 09 23:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: “Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns. He should be drawn and quoted” - Fred Allen #quote | Jan 09 23:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I follow WikiLeaks because most governments do a lousy job of policing themselves. !IFWL | Jan 09 23:44 | |
| DaemonFC | I think that if that many people see you do it, it should be an automatic bench trial | Jan 09 23:44 |
| GoForbes28 | supper | Jan 09 23:44 |
| GoForbes28 | brb | Jan 09 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | save the three ring circus and just get rid of the SOB | Jan 09 23:44 |
| heh, they should join the Union as part of Louisiana | Jan 09 23:44 | |
| Louisiana can use the help. | Jan 09 23:45 | |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | Jan 09 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | nothing can help Louisiana | Jan 09 23:45 |
| nothing can help Louisiana but Louisiana itself. | Jan 09 23:45 | |
| but thanks for the offer | Jan 09 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Reading up in advance of my two days at the Detroit Auto Show later this week... | Jan 09 23:45 | |
| DaemonFC | I think people should only get a jury trial if there's some possibility they didn't do it | Jan 09 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | other than that, it should just be sentencing | Jan 09 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | if you have 20 witnesses, you did it | Jan 09 23:46 |
| now if only there were a way to have mount points show up as part of a split tab... | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| cubezzz | ok, I got Ekiga on | Jan 09 23:47 |
| converting to "file management" mode closes other tabs. | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| DaemonFC | the jury trial gives you a guy that shoots someone in broad daylight in front of half of Manhattan, and throws the gun in a trashcan, then gets found not guilty | Jan 09 23:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You know the irony is, if you follow @wikileaks via #RSS, there's isn't really any way your info can be asked for. I mean who from? | Jan 09 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I wonder where following @wikileaks via a list falls on the US Justice Dept's wrongdoing continuum? I think that's what I do. Must check | Jan 09 23:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Apple is not your friend. It is your suppressors' friend, just like #MasterCard and #PayPalin | Jan 09 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @GaeMar01♻ @rop_g blogged: US DOJ subpoenas my twitter account info http://bit.ly/edzxwf | Jan 09 23:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: US DOJ wants my twitter account info « rop.gonggri.jp .::. Size~: 102.45 KB | Jan 09 23:52 |
| GoForbes28 | golbin, you still there? | Jan 09 23:53 |
| GoForbes28 | anyone got a bigger version of http://col.stb.s-msn.com/i/DD/6F713A74A52DF0FFDCAAE7C21710BE.jpg ? | Jan 09 23:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jan 09 23:54 |
| GoForbes28 | I see parody value here | Jan 09 23:54 |
| GoForbes28 | brb again | Jan 09 23:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] OK, I'm off to bed. See you tomorrow for another live Linux Outlaws. | Jan 09 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Thinking of a new look to Openbytes....only had one change in its 2 year life....something for me to think about... | Jan 09 23:55 | |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: yep | Jan 09 23:55 |
| _Goblin | GoForbes28: Im here. | Jan 09 23:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/1/2011: OLPC With ARM and Fedora on Two Watts, Mac Asay Claimed Disrespectful of Freedom http://is.gd/ks6qU !techrights | Jan 09 23:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 9/1/2011: OLPC With ARM and Fedora on Two Watts, Mac Asay Claimed Disrespectful of Freedom | Techrights .::. Size~: 129.09 KB | Jan 09 23:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OLPC XO-1.75, ARM Marvell Armada 610 version of the XO Laptop! http://is.gd/ks4fO !playogg #olpc !linux #arm | Jan 09 23:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TinyOgg - Watch: OLPC XO-1.75, ARM Marvell Armada 610 version of the XO Laptop! .::. Size~: 5.47 KB | Jan 09 23:59 |
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